From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Sep 1 00:14:12 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:14:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] car show tomorrow. In-Reply-To: <001901c7ec54$7daee390$6401a8c0@perrye9j1m1d2an> Message-ID: <000001c7ec5f$53f76940$6401a8c0@xp> Perry, I believe there are a handful of roadster folks within a few hundred miles of you. Bob Ballinger in Muncie, Indiana for one (though I don't think he has his roadster running). Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Perry Werner Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 9:57 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] car show tomorrow. it is in the Du Quoin State Fairgrounds in Southern Illinois. Sponsored by Heartland something or other, not even on the fairgrounds web site. i didn't realize this till last night. and didn't bother to post then because as far as i know, i am the only person in a few hundred miles. [snip] From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Sep 1 05:37:15 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:07:15 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] WANTED - Lower front suspension spindle pin. Message-ID: <000601c7ec8c$723d1210$426fa8c0@desktop> Hi folks, I have a bent item that causes a non-alignment issue with the lower ball joint when it is all mounted up. It seems to be bent at one of the threaded sections in relation to the rest of the spindle. Probably due to the extreme heat used to free up those flaming bushing nuts!! Grrrr. Does anyone have a serviceable replacement available? Oh, and isn't this front suspension technology awful!!! I'm sure[?] it works BUT..... No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 31/08/2007 5:21 PM From pauljsouza at yahoo.com Sat Sep 1 15:52:20 2007 From: pauljsouza at yahoo.com (Paul Souza) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 14:52:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] ignition switch steering cover Message-ID: <378668.54468.qm@web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone, I have a 1970 ignition switch in my 1969 2000. I am trying to install the cover with no success. Are the plastic covers different for each year? If so, does anyone know where I can get a 1970 ignition switch cover? THANKS ! Paul Souza 69 2000 Vacaville, CA --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. From pauljsouza at yahoo.com Sat Sep 1 18:00:58 2007 From: pauljsouza at yahoo.com (Paul Souza) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:00:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] ignition switch steering cover In-Reply-To: <378668.54468.qm@web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <473010.96672.qm@web32814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone, I ended up removing some of the plastic "guides" inside the cover to make it work. It seems the wiring harness for the blinkers and the 1970 ignition switch larger size caused me to cut out the plastic "guides". It may not be the best fit but it seems to work. I'll have to test it on the road. Advice is welcome! Thanks, Paul Paul Souza wrote: Hi Everyone, I have a 1970 ignition switch in my 1969 2000. I am trying to install the cover with no success. Are the plastic covers different for each year? If so, does anyone know where I can get a 1970 ignition switch cover? THANKS ! Paul Souza 69 2000 Vacaville, CA --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. From roadstergb at aol.com Sat Sep 1 18:17:05 2007 From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 20:17:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org - Image of the Month Message-ID: <8C9BB0DB9E83152-F14-10DD@WEBMAIL-MA06.sysops.aol.com> Hi All Interesting image of the month this time around - unusual photo of a 1600 Roadster driving alongside a Silvia and an R411 in some 1965 Japanese advertising. See: http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Sep2007.htm Best from England! Rob ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. From tputland at charter.net Sat Sep 1 19:36:45 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:36:45 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org - Image of the Month In-Reply-To: <8C9BB0DB9E83152-F14-10DD@WEBMAIL-MA06.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20070901213645.UHO1W.317718.root@fepweb16> Very nice shot!! .... from someone who is too tall to even think about trying to drive a low windscreen Roadster...much less a Silvia--not that this opportunity would come up any time soon, if ever! :-) Happy to have one of two running!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- roadstergb at aol.com wrote: > Hi All > > Interesting image of the month this time around - unusual photo of a 1600 Roadster driving alongside a Silvia and an R411 in some 1965 Japanese advertising. See: > > http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Sep2007.htm > > Best from England! Rob From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Sep 1 23:22:47 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:52:47 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent link assy.[was: -WANTED - Lower front suspension spindle pin]. Message-ID: <000201c7ed21$4c9b0540$426fa8c0@desktop> Hi folks, I stand corrected. I mixed and matched the suspension components and now know where the problem is. What I thought was a bent spindle is actually a bent link, the leading one that the sway-bar attaches to. I'm guessing that when the Shop was heating all this to separate the bushing/spindle/link that the link was inadvertantly bent at the bushing end. Well, I suppose that will be easier to fix than a bent spindle! Should I try to straighten this or replace it?? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: 31/08/2007 5:21 PM From pauljsouza at yahoo.com Sun Sep 2 10:55:12 2007 From: pauljsouza at yahoo.com (Paul Souza) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Volvo brakes - Master cylinder options Message-ID: <880547.26020.qm@web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone, I am disappointed in the performance of my Volvo brakes. I am using the stock master cylinder and now I am thinking the Volvo brakes are not getting enough fluid to work properly. I am considering purchasing and installing a 7/8" master cylinder setup. I noticed Dean has a custom setup http://www.datsunparts.com/1241 Tandem Brake Cylinder 7/8". Has anyone installed this setup ? My concern is the plunger rod that connects to the brake pedal. I believe I have to customize my old one to make this work. Please share advice. THANKS ! Paul Souza 69 2000 Vacaville, CA --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. From msedlack at neo.rr.com Sun Sep 2 12:33:33 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:33:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Volvo brakes - Master cylinder options References: <880547.26020.qm@web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001501c7ed8f$c4b57100$6701a8c0@p428ghz> Paul, You most definitely need the higher volume of a 7/8" bore master to operate 4-piston Volvo brakes. There's a couple of cylinders on Ebay right now http://tinyurl.com/ypzawo http://tinyurl.com/2hw6ps For the push-rod, you can either swap out the retaining ring/disk/rod from your existing cylinder and use shims for adjusting pedal height, or scrounge up an adjustable rod/clevis from a Z-car brake or clutch cylinder. Be aware that the roadster cylinder uses SAE threads at the flare fittings, while the Z uses metric inverted flare fittings (not bubble). This means you have to cut off the exisiting flared-ends, replace the end fittings with metric, then redo the double flares. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Souza" To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Volvo brakes - Master cylinder options > Hi Everyone, > I am disappointed in the performance of my Volvo brakes. I am using the stock master cylinder and now I am thinking the Volvo brakes are not getting enough fluid to work properly. I am considering purchasing and installing a 7/8" master cylinder setup. > > I noticed Dean has a custom setup http://www.datsunparts.com/1241 Tandem Brake Cylinder 7/8". Has anyone installed this setup ? > > My concern is the plunger rod that connects to the brake pedal. I believe I have to customize my old one to make this work. > > Please share advice. > > THANKS ! > > Paul Souza > 69 2000 > Vacaville, CA From RoadsterGB at aol.com Sun Sep 2 15:30:13 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:30:13 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] SRL311-00335 (Solex) for sale in Calgary Message-ID: Hi All More info and images of this car at the link below - it's nothing to do with me, I'm just trying to find a fairly sorry roadster (but an early one) a good home. It has Webers, not Solexes. _http://thestandens.ca/roadster/_ (http://thestandens.ca/roadster/) Best regards again. Rob From stebharvey at ameritech.net Mon Sep 3 06:10:56 2007 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 07:10:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Miata seats Message-ID: <007d01c7ee23$7be15720$0574fea9@steb1> Group, I was contacted last week by a Miata group racer who has a large collections of parts including several sets of seats. I purchased a set (black) yesterday. He wants $75.00 for the passenger seat and $125.00 for the drivers seat. Some sets were in good enough shape to install but others would need new seat covers which are available. He's located in Racine, WI. If anyone is interested, let me know and I'll pass on his e-mail address. Steve Harvey Milwaukee From werner1 at comnetus.net Mon Sep 3 09:36:06 2007 From: werner1 at comnetus.net (Perry Werner) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:36:06 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] datsun with 2 of those other sports cars Message-ID: <001501c7ee40$24c2eae0$6401a8c0@perrye9j1m1d2an> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/bonestomper/Picture002.jpg From bob-heather at worldnet.att.net Mon Sep 3 12:08:16 2007 From: bob-heather at worldnet.att.net (Heather and Bob McClenahan) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:08:16 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Spare U20 Block Message-ID: <005901c7ee55$67783330$0200a8c0@Ourcomputer> I have a bare U20 block that needs to find a new home. It is serial number U20-12855. Unfortunately it only has the rear main bearing cap. I don't know where the other 4 are, or if I ever had them. I just pulled the pistons and they are std. and the cylinder walls are in good condition with no scratches. I would think that they may just need to be honed to clean up. It does have the jack shaft and oil filter adapter. I live in Los Alamos, NM and will ship it to whom ever needs it for my costs. From heyace at cox.net Mon Sep 3 13:44:57 2007 From: heyace at cox.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:44:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Cars for sale Message-ID: <01b601c7ee62$e8722970$56690744@coach> Ok guy's and gals, here goes . I have 2 cars and I am going to sell one, but, which one? Hmm... I have thought about this long and hard because I love both cars. So this is how I will decide. I will place both of them as "for sale" and the one that sells first gets sold, the other I will keep! (sometimes you just gotta let fate take over!) Here is what I have: (some of you know me and have seen the cars at Solvang this past year where they both won awards) 1. silver w/BRE ghost stripes 1969 SRL 311 w/12k mi since frame off resto and has won numerous awards and has many misc & unique features. Runs perfect and needs "NOTHING!" an absolutely beautiful car. 2. Red 67.5 SRL 311 frame off resto that is 97.5% complete and perfect. ( I say this because the car has only been on the road for a short time and still needs the usual few misc, pieces kinks done). This car also has many interesting and unique features. Also... it is not a "bone" stock car as that bores me. I am located in San Diego Ca. and either car could be "legally" driven home. No matter what part of the country you live in. Here is a link for some misc, pics: http://community.webshots.com/user/heyaceman I only want to speak with "serious" buyers only on the specifics and I don't intend to "give it away" so if you have been looking for a show quality roadster now is your chance. I have not yet decided do to ebay, the trader or local listing as I am not in a hurry to sell. I just want the car to go to the right person. So.. Shoot me an email off-line (heyace @ cox.net) if interested. Thanks and sorry for the bandwidth! Paul From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Mon Sep 3 13:59:20 2007 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 12:59:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Choke Cable Message-ID: <878841.28941.qm@web51104.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Folks, I am finishing up my engine rebuild, including going back to SUs, and I need a new cable for the (longer) choke. Who has one for sale? How much? Freight to NJ? UPS is fine. No, I am not yet interested in selling the Solexes or B cam, maybe one day. Jim Gammon From chalsted at comcast.net Tue Sep 4 08:21:53 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:21:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] a few rare NOS pieces for sale...other stuff too Message-ID: <000801c7eefe$f47990e0$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> not everyone looks at ebay all the time, so I'm mentioning a few parts I put on ebay that didn't bring opening price along with a few other roadster goodies...looking to sell them, not give them away... but they may be just what you need... NOS left front fender early low windshield 65 to 67 NOS left and right doorposts- these have the plates with the threaded holes for the hinge bolts in them too NOS 1600 factory Solex manifold with a pair of 40mm Solexes- carbs being refurbished at the moment by Dan Garrison. this is not a Pierce manifold, it's a very rare factory piece. NOS 1600 exhaust resonator/megaphone 1600 grille appearance as new, not a rechrome. Aamco grille bar- goes up and over the front bumperettes, same unit as seen on the old Rallye catalogs. looks new. exceptional '69 top frame assembly complete with latches, top looks nice too but very slight discoloration of rear window. very nice tall windshield hardtop new carpet set seat reupholstery set for 68 roadster new in box rebuilt U20 rebuilt 5spd a few sets of refurbished Solexes- anticipating getting these back from Dan Garrison in the near future a number of excellent passenger side shiny chrome headlight scoops 67.5 seats 67.5 visor sets a number of low windshield windshields with or without frames and always lots of other stuff trying to raise money for the trip to Newfoundland later this month to pick up the remains of SRL311-00967 and to pay for the next pair of roadsters I'm picking up.... have a real nice 67.5 2000 for sale also, will be at the Glen with it this coming weekend. contact me offlist if interested Craig Halsted 540-635-5752 From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Tue Sep 4 09:22:46 2007 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:22:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice ones for sale Message-ID: I stopped by collectorcartraderonline.com for the first time in a couple of months. Right now there are some really nice looking roadsters that seem to be good deals, even a couple of red/black interior cars. What is it about that red/black interior on a Roadster? I can't decide whether I like it best with a silver or white exterior. Or maybe black? Hmm.... Greg SRL31100494 From andycost at earthlink.net Tue Sep 4 12:28:59 2007 From: andycost at earthlink.net (Andy Cost) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:28:59 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update Message-ID: <17984194.1188930539671.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I've been having problems getting motivated. Every spare moment is taken up with work or birthday parties. I have been to 10 birthday parties this summer for all the 4 year olds in my daughter's class. I finally stood up to the wife and refused to go to one. I hope there are not any more coming up. Anyway, I've had a little progress lately and I decided to celebrate by installing the wheels and body work and take a few photos. I have completed the rear axle it is painted and new seals installed. It is now bolted up to the three link but will probably have to come out for unforseen reasons. There is now a driveshaft safety loop. I couldn't get the scattershield to fit. I'm going to run it without for a while. I may have to install something inside the bellhousing. I have installed the exhaust system which is 2" all the way back to the 3" resonator and turbo muffler. I think 2" will be large enough. I have one section of pipe to weld in where it goes over the axle. The pipes run through holes in the frame. I want to make this last section so that it will come apart. The front half will pull out in one piece. The rear half will pull out in one piece. The problem is that I can't get a slip connector to work. The tubing runs through a hole in the frame and I can't move the pipe enough to get it to slip on or off. I considered a flange but that wouldn't slip through the hole in the frame. I'm at an impass. I may try a flexible repair section from Autozone. I may be able to bend it enough to slip over the pipe. The steam roller tires look pretty cool. From the rear it looks like a funny-car. The body work in the photos isn't secured well so the car looks bent like a banana. I am going to build new brake and fuel lines. A frame will be welded behind the passenger rear tire to hold the fuel cell, surge tank, fuel pump, methanol reservoir, and battery box. There will be room back there for the radiator to go between the wheels. I also need to build a new roll bar and cover over the package area with sheet aluminum. There are still a bunch of details to take care of. The front wheels are spaced out too far. I can't bring them in any because they will hit the fat calipers. I am considering replacing the front calipers with some floating calipers that are much lighter and have less overhang on the wheel center side. This will allow me to remove the 3/8" spacers and hopefully eliminate any clearance issues with the fenders. I have some BMW E30 rear brake calipers that I am going to try and install on the front. We'll see how it works out. This project has gone from a little bit of cutting and welding to a complete redesign of every system. At least it still looks like a roadster. Enjoy the photos, http://thumb5.webshots.net/t/22/23/5/88/25/2335588250065431685qOqfIe_th.jpg Andy From andycost at earthlink.net Tue Sep 4 12:49:45 2007 From: andycost at earthlink.net (Andy Cost) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:49:45 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update Message-ID: <19368786.1188931785525.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Try this link, http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2335588250065431685qOqfIe From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Tue Sep 4 14:29:06 2007 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:29:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update In-Reply-To: <19368786.1188931785525.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <19368786.1188931785525.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <00a301c7ef32$3de835a0$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> Dude this car needs a V8!!!! Great work Andy. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Cost Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 11:50 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update Try this link, http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2335588250065431685qOqfIe ________________________________________ gogineni.alvin at gene.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jones_barton at msn.com Tue Sep 4 17:33:42 2007 From: jones_barton at msn.com (Jones Barton) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:33:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Seattle Area Transmission Shop???? Message-ID: Hi Everybody, Does anybody know of a transmission shop that can work on the 4 speed 1600 tansmission? Jones Barton 1969 1600 Steilacoom, WA From chalsted at comcast.net Tue Sep 4 17:52:22 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:52:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Gary Lasater Message-ID: <012701c7ef4e$a6b4e8f0$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> sorry for the bandwidth, Gary my e-mails to you are coming back "returned mail: user unknown" and it says you are not accepting mail from this sender. what's changed- went thru fine yesterday...anyhow, will be shipping tomorrow or monday. Craig From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Sep 4 18:07:33 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:07:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Seattle Area Transmission Shop???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201c7ef50$c5420990$6401a8c0@xp> Dunno if they'll do a roadster tranny, but these guys have a good rep and rebuilt the auto tranny in the Pig Car (aka '94 Chrysler Concorde). North Seattle Transmission 14711 15th Ave NE Shoreline, WA 98155 (206) 364-3131 I've heard rebuilding a 4-speed isn't that difficult, however, I defer to those who have and know for sure. ` ___ ' Pete - (O o) - ------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo---- Lake Forest Park, WA 1966 1600 SPL311 1966 L20B WPL411 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jones Barton Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 4:34 PM To: datsun-roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] Seattle Area Transmission Shop???? Hi Everybody, Does anybody know of a transmission shop that can work on the 4 speed 1600 tansmission? Jones Barton 1969 1600 Steilacoom, WA Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Sep 4 21:35:32 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:35:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Seattle Area Transmission Shop???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001101c7ef6d$d3191aa0$6401a8c0@xp> Not enough good things can be said about John Walker's Workshop: His business is Porsches, but he's into other cars. Even if he can't/won't do it, he may know someone who can. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Beamonk at aol.com [mailto:Beamonk at aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 6:14 PM To: ppeters914 at comcast.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Seattle Area Transmission Shop???? try John Walker's workshop in seattle. he does mostly Porsches but can most likely do you a fine job. Neat guy. John Brasfiled From tom at datsun2000.com Wed Sep 5 11:58:31 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:58:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Early 67 Rolling Body Added to NOWROC Message-ID: I just added an early 67 rolling body and chassis to the NOWROC classified page. This car is in Spokane, Washington and the price is right. Take a look if you are interested. http://www.nowroc.org/Classifieds.htm Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org From evanstratum at yahoo.com Wed Sep 5 12:47:47 2007 From: evanstratum at yahoo.com (Eva Van Stratum) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Philly area repair Message-ID: <587318.35153.qm@web52312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Okay, no problem with my '69 2000 at present, but it's only a matter of time with these things. Does anyone know of a shop in the Philadelphia / upper Delaware area that knows beans about working on Datsun roadsters? I'd rather have to drive a bit and get a better shop than deal with someone just making guesses. Doesn't have to be Datsun specific (Alfa dealer in TN did my Fiat, convinced me to sell it as.. never mind the non-flattering term he used). Eva Van Stratum Aston, PA. --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. From gregs672liter at netzero.net Wed Sep 5 12:46:48 2007 From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 18:46:48 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update Message-ID: <20070905.114648.24952.0@webmail21.lax.untd.com> Hmmm, doesn't look stock to me. And I have concerns about my overnight bag falling out of the trunk. Ya know, big tires like that can really impact your gas mileage... something to think about... :-) Greg Burrows -- Andy Cost wrote: Try this link, http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2335588250065431685qOqfIe ________________________________________ From jones_barton at msn.com Wed Sep 5 16:33:18 2007 From: jones_barton at msn.com (Jones Barton) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:33:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Transmissionless in Seattle Message-ID: Hi everybody, Great suggestions from everyone on finding a transmission shop in the Seattle area. I finally got hold of Ross Mullen with SportsImports and he just happened to have a rebuilt transmission on the shelf looking for a home. With any luck it will get to me by Friday and hopefully everything back together by next week just in time for the liquid sunshine season in the Northwest. I think after everything I have had to replace or get rebuilt, the only thing remaining to do is the fuel pump, might as well replace that just for the fun of it. Thanks everyone Jones Barton 1969 1600 Steilacoom WA From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Sep 5 16:56:50 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:56:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update In-Reply-To: <20070905.114648.24952.0@webmail21.lax.untd.com> References: <20070905.114648.24952.0@webmail21.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: <8C9BE272DF6305F-A7C-3E55@webmail-me06.sysops.aol.com> And is that car really safe for 4yr old birthday parties? Linda -----Original Message----- From: gregs672liter at netzero.net To: andycost at earthlink.net Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:46 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update Hmmm, doesn't look stock to me. And I have concerns about my overnight bag falling out of the trunk. Ya know, big tires like that can really impact your gas mileage... something to think about... :-) Greg Burrows -- Andy Cost wrote: Try this link, http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2335588250065431685qOqfIe ________________________________________ ________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From tputland at charter.net Wed Sep 5 17:04:00 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:04:00 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update In-Reply-To: <8C9BE272DF6305F-A7C-3E55@webmail-me06.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20070905190400.645VM.194735.root@mp20> As long as you put the little nasties in the "rumble" seat! ;-o -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: > And is that car really safe for 4yr old birthday parties? > > Linda > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gregs672liter at netzero.net > To: andycost at earthlink.net > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:46 am > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update > > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm, doesn't look stock to me. And I have concerns about my overnight bag > falling out of the trunk. Ya know, big tires like that can really impact your > gas mileage... something to think about... :-) > Greg Burrows > > -- Andy Cost wrote: > Try this link, > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2335588250065431685qOqfIe > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ From gboone70 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 5 22:15:10 2007 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:15:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] I'm quitting the EI distributors for good Message-ID: <909481.59678.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Roadster fans, I'm now officially quitting making the EI distributors. My wait list is finally down to zero after making 277 of them. I need to quit for a few reasons, but the main ones are that I need to spend more time with my family. My daughter is 14 years old and she will be gone before I know it. Also, my job is very demanding, as I'm the maintenance manager of a rather large chemical plant. And my 2000 roadster is still up on jack stands for 3 years now, waiting on me to complete the EFI project. I will honor any warranty work and will retain enough parts to repair any distributors, even ones that are beyond warranty. Wow, this has been a great thing, because it has connected me with so many great roadster folks, and I very much appreciate that. I don't exactly live in the roadster capital of the world here in Cheyenne, Wyoming. If you ever happen to be here, please look me up. I'm in the phone book. My last EI distributor is on ebay right now, which is a very nice one, using some of my last new parts. The auction ends this Sunday at approx 9:20 AM. The ebay item # is 280149227024 Thanks to all the previous buyers and to everyone else. Gary Boone ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Sep 6 04:24:51 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:24:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] I'm quitting the EI distributors for good In-Reply-To: <909481.59678.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <909481.59678.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46DFD573.9010100@RWMann.com> Gary, Every time it fires promptly and runs smoothly across the rev range, I feel lucky to have one of 277. Thanks for your very durable and significant performance improvement. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex G.Boone EI distributor P.S. We just sent our oldest off to school last week; they do grow up fast. Gary Boone wrote: >Hi Roadster fans, >I'm now officially quitting making the EI >distributors. My wait list is >finally down to zero after making 277 of them. > >I need to quit for a few reasons, but the main ones >are that I need to >spend more time with my family. My daughter is 14 >years old and she >will be gone before I know it. Also, my job is very >demanding, as I'm >the maintenance manager of a rather large chemical >plant. And my 2000 >roadster is still up on jack stands for 3 years now, >waiting on me to >complete the EFI project. > >I will honor any warranty work and will retain enough >parts to repair >any distributors, even ones that are beyond warranty. > >Wow, this has been a great thing, because it has >connected me with so >many great roadster folks, and I very much appreciate >that. I don't >exactly live in the roadster capital of the world here >in Cheyenne, >Wyoming. If you ever happen to be here, please look >me up. I'm in the >phone book. > >My last EI distributor is on ebay right now, which is >a very nice one, >using some of my last new parts. The auction ends >this Sunday at approx >9:20 AM. The ebay item # is 280149227024 > >Thanks to all the previous buyers and to everyone >else. >Gary Boone > > -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 mailto:info at RWMann.com >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Thu Sep 6 06:40:31 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 08:40:31 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] I'm quitting the EI distributors for good Message-ID: Hey Gary - Sorry to loose such a great contribution to the roadster world. Having one of the "special" units installed and set up by the Boonester himself, my '69 2000 is one fast, reliable, smooth running summagun. But that being said, we at WyCROC are tired of waiting for you to get your car back on the road, so now there is NO EXCUSE. We expect to see you next year --- right?? Have fun with your daughter, my two oldest are grown and off on their own. My boys are turning into young men with the 16 year old trying to determine what color to paint the '70 1600 I am going to let him drive. The next generation of roadster fanatic is being trained well. He actually is clutching and shifting rather well (for those of you around the world, here in Colorado 16 year olds are only driving on a "learners permit" and can't drive independently until they are 17). Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Thu Sep 6 06:52:11 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:52:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] I'm quitting the EI distributors for good In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5AAC39FF50E6F8498E8F697CB99E433BBC0F5D@NDMSEVS23.ndc.nasa.gov> My question is - Gary, who are you passing the torch to? I am sure someone (Keith?) can pick up this work - someone - please! It is one of those things on my list, but need other items first. When I grew up in Idaho it was 14 - 15 daylight only - 16 unlimited. Now in Alabama it is 15 for permit (parent only with new driver) - 16 unlimited. Phil SEROC Hey Gary - Sorry to loose such a great contribution to the roadster world. Having one of the "special" units installed and set up by the Boonester himself, my '69 2000 is one fast, reliable, smooth running summagun. But that being said, we at WyCROC are tired of waiting for you to get your car back on the road, so now there is NO EXCUSE. We expect to see you next year --- right?? Have fun with your daughter, my two oldest are grown and off on their own. My boys are turning into young men with the 16 year old trying to determine what color to paint the '70 1600 I am going to let him drive. The next generation of roadster fanatic is being trained well. He actually is clutching and shifting rather well (for those of you around the world, here in Colorado 16 year olds are only driving on a "learners permit" and can't drive independently until they are 17). Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Sep 6 08:55:33 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 07:55:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: but vehicle related and funny Message-ID: <000201c7f095$fa38faa0$6401a8c0@xp> From solex675 at hotmail.com Thu Sep 6 10:38:36 2007 From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:38:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] I'm quitting the EI distributors for good In-Reply-To: <909481.59678.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <909481.59678.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Gary, I'll add my own thanks as I have purchased two of your conversions and they have worked flawlessly. True craftsmanship and attention to detail. Good luck with your EFI conversion and enjoy the time with your kids. Regards, Andrew Murphy 1966 1600> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 21:15:10 -0700> From: gboone70 at yahoo.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] I'm quitting the EI distributors for good> > Hi Roadster fans,> I'm now officially quitting making the EI> distributors. My wait list is > finally down to zero after making 277 of them.> > I need to quit for a few reasons, but the main ones> are that I need to > spend more time with my family. My daughter is 14> years old and she > will be gone before I know it. Also, my job is very> demanding, as I'm > the maintenance manager of a rather large chemical> plant. And my 2000 > roadster is still up on jack stands for 3 years now,> waiting on me to > complete the EFI project. > > I will honor any warranty work and will retain enough> parts to repair > any distributors, even ones that are beyond warranty. > > Wow, this has been a great thing, because it has> connected me with so > many great roadster folks, and I very much appreciate> that. I don't > exactly live in the roadster capital of the world here> in Cheyenne, > Wyoming. If you ever happen to be here, please look> me up. I'm in the > phone book.> > My last EI distributor is on ebay right now, which is> a very nice one, > using some of my last new parts. The auction ends> this Sunday at approx > 9:20 AM. The ebay item # is 280149227024> > Thanks to all the previous buyers and to everyone> else.> Gary Boone > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Thu Sep 6 10:56:35 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 09:56:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update, almost OT at this point Message-ID: <8AB7DFF4B7187C43B0C93FA2D55E5B8C09C1D4AF@xcgca210.northgrum.com> >From Linda: And is that car really safe for 4yr old birthday parties? So, flashback to the Porsche Cayenne TV spot (the one where the kids party clown has no audience, cause they are all taking spins around the block in the new Porsche SUV) Maybe Nissan should do a sequel, with helmeted 4 year old kids taking trips around the block in Andy's Bucephalus? (cheeks all stretched out from the g-forces, getting out wobbly kneed, etc) Now THAT's marketing! From pauljsouza at yahoo.com Thu Sep 6 11:20:44 2007 From: pauljsouza at yahoo.com (Paul Souza) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 10:20:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] I'm quitting the EI distributors for good In-Reply-To: <909481.59678.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <705625.86836.qm@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Gary, Thanks so much for your time, patience, quality parts and hard work. I understand how time passes so quickly. The EI distributor you built for my Rebello's engine works excellent and I appreciate the time you took to talk to Rebello's to customize it for my application. Please let me know if I can ever do something for you. THANKS ! Paul Souza 69 2000 (Rebello's eng) Vacaville, CA Gary Boone wrote: Hi Roadster fans, I'm now officially quitting making the EI distributors. My wait list is finally down to zero after making 277 of them. I need to quit for a few reasons, but the main ones are that I need to spend more time with my family. My daughter is 14 years old and she will be gone before I know it. Also, my job is very demanding, as I'm the maintenance manager of a rather large chemical plant. And my 2000 roadster is still up on jack stands for 3 years now, waiting on me to complete the EFI project. I will honor any warranty work and will retain enough parts to repair any distributors, even ones that are beyond warranty. Wow, this has been a great thing, because it has connected me with so many great roadster folks, and I very much appreciate that. I don't exactly live in the roadster capital of the world here in Cheyenne, Wyoming. If you ever happen to be here, please look me up. I'm in the phone book. My last EI distributor is on ebay right now, which is a very nice one, using some of my last new parts. The auction ends this Sunday at approx 9:20 AM. The ebay item # is 280149227024 Thanks to all the previous buyers and to everyone else. Gary Boone --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Sep 6 13:30:15 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 15:30:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] I'm quitting the EI distributors for good In-Reply-To: <705625.86836.qm@web32806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8C9BED37C8A4AD6-96C-9979@FWM-M21.sysops.aol.com> Hi Garry, Let me add my thanks for my EI dist. I bought, and installed myself, with your excellent instructions and just a couple of questions. I hope that you "unretire" at some point and make these available again. Perahps after your car is done. Speaking of which, too bad you can't put out a call for some Roadster buddies to come by a do a blitz overhaul of your car conversion so that you can get it on the road. Even if they are just handing you wrenches it would speed up the process. And I am sure you have been email about this, is there someone who can take over? Can you train or hire someone on an as needed basis, and supervise? Are you getting the drift that we don't want you to go? Family comes first though, so have fun. Linda Gary Boone wrote: Hi Roadster fans, I'm now officially quitting making the EI distributors. My wait list is finally down to zero after making 277 of them. I need to quit for a few reasons, but the main ones are that I need to spend more time with my family. My daughter is 14 years old and she will be gone before I know it. Also, my job is very demanding, as I'm the maintenance manager of a rather large chemical plant. And my 2000 roadster is still up on jack stands for 3 years now, waiting on me to complete the EFI project. I will honor any warranty work and will retain enough parts to repair any distributors, even ones that are beyond warranty. Wow, this has been a great thing, because it has connected me with so many great roadster folks, and I very much appreciate that. I don't exactly live in the roadster capital of the world here in Cheyenne, Wyoming. If you ever happen to be here, please look me up. I'm in the phone book. My last EI distributor is on ebay right now, which is a very nice one, using some of my last new parts. The auction ends this Sunday at approx 9:20 AM. The ebay item # is 280149227024 Thanks to all the previous buyers and to everyone else. Gary Boone --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From tputland at charter.net Thu Sep 6 18:15:02 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:15:02 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: but vehicle related and funny In-Reply-To: <000201c7f095$fa38faa0$6401a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <20070906201502.HAB6W.3372.root@fepweb08> This is just my opinion and I am sure I will piss someone off. But, again, this is my half cent worth of venting opinion. I just caught part of the footage from the time capsule unearthing in Oklahoma. The one with the 1959 Belvedere buried as well as a capsule. The shots of Coddington's crew making wise cracks about the whole situation reminded my again what jerks they all are. I am sure that at least part of what one sees is their "playing to the camera". But this whole salt flat mess just re-inforces what asses Coddington and his people are. This is just my opinion and I am sure I will piss someone off. But, again, this is my half cent worth of venting opinion. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Pete Peters wrote: > From jake7140 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 6 19:43:43 2007 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 18:43:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster racing at Road America! Message-ID: <647637.1585.qm@web37914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It's finally running, has some testing time, and I figure I might as well see how it goes. I'll be running my 67.5 1600 at the Elkhart Lake Vintage Festival, Sept 14-16 at Road America, Elkhart Lake, WI. I'm still working feverishly late into the nights trying to get as much checked off my list as I can. Not everything will be done, but I should be able to get on the track and survive the weekend if all goes well. Pictures of the car can be found at www.NoNameRacing.com. The car will look pretty much like that unless the #33 graphics come through, then it will look more like a '67 Bob Sharp car (with a windshield). I'll be in "Group 8". There is more information about the weekend activities, and a race schedule available at www.vscda.org I plan on doing the touring, so if any fellow Roadster nuts would like some laps around the track, look me up. Email me with any questions or if you think you're coming and I can send you my schedule and try to keep a look out for you, Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home www.elrss.com From DCorbitt77 at comcast.net Thu Sep 6 20:04:14 2007 From: DCorbitt77 at comcast.net (Dave Corbitt) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:04:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan historic exhibit at the Lane Motor Museum In-Reply-To: <20070906201502.HAB6W.3372.root@fepweb08> References: <20070906201502.HAB6W.3372.root@fepweb08> Message-ID: <1737327dd7b1b59f752a636444bad59d@comcast.net> To all on the Roadster list, The Lane Motor Museum outside of Nashville is hosting the following: (from their website) September - Historic Nissan North America Exhibit The Historic Nissan North America Exhibit has been extended through October 8, 2007. Vehicles will document Nissan's rebirth after World War II and the company's entry into the American market. Regular admission rates apply. Here's the link: http://www.lanemotormuseum.org/cgi-bin/search.pl/news? After that ends they are hosting more Nissans: (from their website) October - Z Cars Exhibit featuring vehicles from the Nissan North America Heritage Collection Beginning October 11, 2007 through July, 2008. View select Z Cars from the Nissan North America Heritage Collection on display for a limited time. Explore Nissan's revolutionary rise in the sports car market from the 1969 240Z to the 25th Anniversary 300ZX. Included is the 1974 260Z owned by Mr. Yutaka Katayama, President of Nissan Motors North America and known as "The Father of the Z Car". Might be worth the trip to Nashville for anyone within a days drive. I'd go if I could but it's a bit far from here and I've just taken on a new job. Dave Corbitt Summit, NJ From d-solomon at comcast.net Thu Sep 6 20:19:47 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:19:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: but vehicle related and funny In-Reply-To: <20070906201502.HAB6W.3372.root@fepweb08> References: <20070906201502.HAB6W.3372.root@fepweb08> Message-ID: <46E0B543.6070708@comcast.net> I'm by no means "pissed-off" at your comments. But my $.02 would sound something like curiosity at people who can call others names, while enjoying a good laugh at the expense of others going through what surely must have been a very frustrating ordeal. Yes, it may have been of their own doing. How many of us have found ourselves in a mess of our own making? I certainly have.... and seem to, over and over again. I've had concrete trucks and wreckers just as stuck as those were. You have to laugh, and take it lightly, and make jokes, to try to avoid the weight of what you know is gonna cost you a fortune, and be very unpleasant. But others jeering at you is not the same thing. I don't know if he "cleaned-up his mess" as someone put it.... but have you ever spent any time out there? One good rain and the mess will be gone. No, I'm no Coddington fan, (although back in the early 80's, he built some industry-changing hot-rods that will always stand out in my mind) but I would like to cut others some slack as often as I can, and hope the favor is returned some day. again: y'all are entitled to feel any way you want to about it, certainly you don't need my permission for that. I just thought I'd throw in my $.02 take it for what it's worth.... :-) Dan tputland at charter.net wrote: > This is just my opinion and I am sure I will piss someone off. But, again, this is my half cent worth of venting opinion. > > I just caught part of the footage from the time capsule unearthing in Oklahoma. The one with the 1959 Belvedere buried as well as a capsule. The shots of Coddington's crew making wise cracks about the whole situation reminded my again what jerks they all are. > > I am sure that at least part of what one sees is their "playing to the camera". But this whole salt flat mess just re-inforces what asses Coddington and his people are. > > This is just my opinion and I am sure I will piss someone off. But, again, this is my half cent worth of venting opinion. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- Pete Peters wrote: > >> >> > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gboone70 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 6 20:43:48 2007 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] I'm quitting the EI distributors for good Message-ID: <354158.80352.qm@web36301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Linda, Thanks for your positive comments to the list. I only have one roadster buddy in town but actually my roadster doesn't need any wrenching to get it going. It needs my self to program the ECU for the fuel injection, which is very time consuming and involved for me since I've never done it before. Also I appreciate your major efforts with the ball joint project. I'm sure I have no idea just how time consuming that must have been for you and to tolerate all the abuse from some folks. The ones you sent me look great but I actually bought them for installation after mine wear out. I installed new Nissan joints when I restored my roadster several years ago and they don't have many miles on them. I appreciate what you did. Thanks, Gary ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: >Hi Garry, > >Let me add my thanks for my EI dist. I bought, and installed myself, with your excellent instructions and just a couple of questions. > >I hope that you "unretire" at some point and make these available again. Perahps after your car is done. Speaking of which, > > > too bad you can't put out a call for some Roadster buddies to come by > a do a blitz overhaul of your car conversion so that you can get it on > the road. Even if they are just handing you wrenches it would speed up > the process. > And I am sure you have been email about this, is there someone who can > take over? Can you train or hire someone on an as needed basis, and > supervise? Are you getting the drift that we don't want you to go?:-) > Family comes first though, so have fun. > > Linda From gsglasgow at comcast.net Thu Sep 6 21:46:46 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:46:46 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update In-Reply-To: <20070905.114648.24952.0@webmail21.lax.untd.com> Message-ID: And if you think that's excessive, try this one: http://www.ntahc.org/modifiedhealeys/Photos/126Marian/Marian.htm Bugeye Sprite with 478 ci Chrysler Hemi and Corvette suspension. OMG! Now, see, Andy's car is really quite reasonable by comparison. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of gregs672liter at netzero.net > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:47 AM > To: andycost at earthlink.net > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Supercharged Tube Frame Update > > > Hmmm, doesn't look stock to me. And I have concerns about my > overnight bag > falling out of the trunk. Ya know, big tires like that can > really impact your > gas mileage... something to think about... :-) > Greg Burrows > > -- Andy Cost wrote: > Try this link, > > http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2335588250065431685qOqfIe > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > > gsglasgow at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From graemes at internode.on.net Fri Sep 7 01:05:03 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 16:35:03 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] G15 canister oil filter part/assembly. Message-ID: <000301c7f11d$6a9df1b0$426fa8c0@desktop> Hi folks, looks like I'm missing the top oil filter retainer for my G15 oil filter assembly. It is a pressed disc that is spring loaded down on the top of the filter. Has anyone got "it" or a complete old style filter cannister assembly that needs a good home?? Regards from sunny Adelaide. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.8/993 - Release Date: 6/09/2007 3:18 PM From twobeaners at earthlink.net Fri Sep 7 08:20:35 2007 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 08:20:35 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Used 67.5 Shift plate for 5-speed Message-ID: <001101c7f15a$41d30e90$6700a8c0@lap> Hello guys and gals, I've got my stroker/5 speed project dialed in now with 600 miles logged in. I'm looking for a used 67.5 shift plate for the 5-speed, to trim it out. This is the plate with the hole for the shifter, not the shift emblem. It doesn't have to be pretty, just not too bent up, I'm going to paint it anyway. Anyone have one for sale? Mike Hudson '67 - R20 / 5speed From AffordPlbg at aol.com Sat Sep 8 10:53:55 2007 From: AffordPlbg at aol.com (AffordPlbg at aol.com) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 12:53:55 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] So. CA Roadster BBQ Message-ID: Hi gang, This is your one-week reminder. Our Roadster BBQ will be next Saturday, 9/15 at noonish. Our address is 20116 Archwood Street in Winnetka. My cell is 818-648-1202 and home is 818-712-9491. It would be great if you could let us know (off-line) if you're coming and what you plan to bring. We ask that you bring a side dish or dessert. We'll be supplying the BBQ meats and drinks, and we'd like to know how much to prepare. So far, we have 10 people coming, but the more, the merrier! Any questions? Call or write directly. Thanks, and hope to hear from you (and see you) soon. Gary & Nancy ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 8 19:49:04 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 20:49:04 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] ignition switch References: <909481.59678.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000801c7f283$deb96cc0$8215a8c0@Garage.local> i'm guessing here; i have an early 67 1600 which i received in "kit form." there is what looks like a correct switch; it matches the dash. there is also a switch, which i believe he had working at one time, that is obviously from a later model. thats the one i have a key for. i'm guessing the correct one is not working. i don't have a key for it. my question, and from looking at the later diagrams, i think i have it correct: acc should be wired to the accessories, i.e., the radio. ignition should go to the fuse block to turn everything on. battery goes to the positive side of the battery st goes to the starter the switch is numberd 48f225; has a center post labeled st which sticks way out. more recessed are the three other posts, battery, ignition, and acc. thanks! From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 8 21:12:11 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 20:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] ignition switch Message-ID: <325939.77692.qm@web82815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OK. i'm guessing this is not a datsun or roadster switch. how funny! i'll set up my multimeter and a battery and figure it out. From graemes at internode.on.net Sun Sep 9 06:22:11 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:52:11 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] G15 canister oil filter part/assembly....RESEND. Message-ID: <001101c7f2dc$0e53fa60$426fa8c0@desktop> Hi folks, looks like I'm missing the top oil filter retainer for my G15 oil filter assembly. It is a pressed disc that is spring loaded down on the top of the filter. Without it the filter is bypassed and ineffective as well. There must be a few of these lying around from conversions to spin on filters. Has anyone got "it" or a complete old style filter cannister assembly that needs a good home?? Regards from sunny Adelaide. G.S. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.10/995 - Release Date: 8/09/2007 1:24 PM From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 9 13:39:59 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 14:39:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets References: <909481.59678.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000201c7f319$382e0320$8215a8c0@Garage.local> anyone have a good source for the gasket that goes between the tail light base and the body of the car in the rear? From pjmill at sonic.net Sun Sep 9 15:58:04 2007 From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 14:58:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets In-Reply-To: <000201c7f319$382e0320$8215a8c0@Garage.local> Message-ID: <200709092158.l89LwUgO030086@a.mail.sonic.net> Dean has some really nice white ones! http://www.datsunparts.com/ Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 12:40 PM To: Datsun Roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets anyone have a good source for the gasket that goes between the tail light base and the body of the car in the rear? ________________________________________ pjmill at sonic.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Sep 9 17:39:35 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:39:35 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets In-Reply-To: <000201c7f319$382e0320$8215a8c0@Garage.local> References: <909481.59678.qm@web36306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000201c7f319$382e0320$8215a8c0@Garage.local> Message-ID: <8C9C151D0237F8F-C3C-7104@MBLK-M15.sysops.aol.com> Also, I've seen them on EBAY or if you have a steady hand you can make your own. Sheet rubber can be found in the plumbing section of Home Depot. Linda -----Original Message----- From: oliver To: Datsun Roadsters Sent: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 12:39 pm Subject: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets anyone have a good source for the gasket that goes between the tail light base and the body of the car in the rear? ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Sep 9 19:37:16 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 18:37:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets In-Reply-To: <200709092158.l89LwUgO030086@a.mail.sonic.net> Message-ID: <000401c7f34b$220be490$6401a8c0@xp> The white ones are for the lens to light body. Oliver is asking for the light body to car body. Go here and scroll down to Part #'s 1421-1424: http://www.datsunparts.com/Weatherstripping Part #1288 is a kit that contains all the tail light gaskets. HTH. ` ___ ' Pete - (O o) - ------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo---- Lake Forest Park, WA 1966 1600 SPL311 1966 L20B WPL411 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of pjmill Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 2:58 PM To: 'oliver'; 'Datsun Roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets Dean has some really nice white ones! http://www.datsunparts.com/ Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 12:40 PM To: Datsun Roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets anyone have a good source for the gasket that goes between the tail light base and the body of the car in the rear? From pjmill at sonic.net Sun Sep 9 19:40:22 2007 From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 18:40:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets In-Reply-To: <000401c7f34b$220be490$6401a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <200709100140.l8A1emnF005426@b.mail.sonic.net> Oops! Exactly right! Thanks! Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 6:37 PM To: 'Datsun Roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets The white ones are for the lens to light body. Oliver is asking for the light body to car body. Go here and scroll down to Part #'s 1421-1424: http://www.datsunparts.com/Weatherstripping Part #1288 is a kit that contains all the tail light gaskets. HTH. ` ___ ' Pete - (O o) - ------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo---- Lake Forest Park, WA 1966 1600 SPL311 1966 L20B WPL411 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of pjmill Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 2:58 PM To: 'oliver'; 'Datsun Roadsters' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets Dean has some really nice white ones! http://www.datsunparts.com/ Paul -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 12:40 PM To: Datsun Roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets anyone have a good source for the gasket that goes between the tail light base and the body of the car in the rear? ________________________________________ pjmill at sonic.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com Sun Sep 9 22:14:50 2007 From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (datsun parts.com) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] tail light base to body gaskets In-Reply-To: <000201c7f319$382e0320$8215a8c0@Garage.local> Message-ID: <576234.38757.qm@web36510.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There are some here: http://www.datsunparts.com/1422] http://www.datsunparts.com/1288 --------------------------------- Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. From chalsted at comcast.net Mon Sep 10 08:53:46 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:53:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Indianapolis roadster owner needs advice Message-ID: <001f01c7f3ba$64276b00$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> Robert Norton who lives in Indianapolis has a 69 2000 and needs carb advice/hands on tuning, is anyone close who could help him or recommend a local shop? car hasn't been driven much lately, used to be able to "run along at sustained 100mph speeds" I suggested checking the float chambers, he had never done that before... his cell is 317-440-2615 please contact him directly if you can help out. he would also consider selling the car... Craig From pauljsouza at yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 12:57:05 2007 From: pauljsouza at yahoo.com (Paul Souza) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] tuning SU carbs at Shasta Message-ID: <21564.22739.qm@web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone, Who was the trainer on how to tune SU carbs using an oxygen sensor at Shasta? Please give me his contact information because I misplaced it. Thanks ! Paul Souza 69 2000 ( Rebello Engine) Vacaville, CA --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. From pauljsouza at yahoo.com Mon Sep 10 21:00:34 2007 From: pauljsouza at yahoo.com (Paul Souza) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] spare tire recommendations ( small size) Message-ID: <641074.15653.qm@web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Everyone, I took a look at the Roadster archives for a spare tire. Can anyone tell me if any of these work with volvo brakes and 15" Panasport setup? 85 -'88 Nissan Maxima/810 16" donut early 80's Maxima 1981-1984 Maxima, circa '85-'88. 135/70/16 and it fits fine with LOTS of clearance. late '80's Toyota Celica 16" donut Nissan 280ZX 14" donut 85-86 Pontiac Firebird 15" THANKS! Paul Souza 69 2000 Vacaville, CA --------------------------------- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Sep 10 21:46:55 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:16:55 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] G15 canister oil filter part. Message-ID: <000001c7f426$687b15a0$426fa8c0@desktop> CRISIS OVER When all else fails, ask your local Nissan Parts Dealer. P/N 15227-43800... RETAINER - element is still available as a new part. Obviously used in many vehicles other than Roadsters No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.12/997 - Release Date: 9/09/2007 10:17 AM From drlsmith at dccnet.com Mon Sep 10 22:18:00 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:18:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Wall hung tire rack Message-ID: <001b01c7f42a$be31ffa0$102dcf18@Daryl> I need to build a tire rack to mount high on the wall to get some race tires wheels out of the way in the garage. Can anyone point me to a design that's relatively simple and straight forward to build? Ideally this will be hung just below ceiling height, where it will be out of the way. Have 3 sets of tires wheels/tires for my brother's 510 and a spare set of wheels for my roadster to hang up. Thanks Daryl From joefoto at charter.net Mon Sep 10 23:55:55 2007 From: joefoto at charter.net (Brian Parks) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:55:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] tuning SU carbs at Shasta References: <21564.22739.qm@web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01c7f438$6bf65480$2402a8c0@DADSCOMP> Keith Olan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Souza" To: Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: [Roadsters] tuning SU carbs at Shasta > Hi Everyone, > Who was the trainer on how to tune SU carbs using an oxygen sensor at > Shasta? > > Please give me his contact information because I misplaced it. > > Thanks ! > > Paul Souza > 69 2000 ( Rebello Engine) > Vacaville, CA > > > --------------------------------- > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > ________________________________________ > > joefoto at charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Keith0alan at aol.com Tue Sep 11 06:31:51 2007 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:31:51 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] tuning SU carbs at Shasta Message-ID: In a message dated 9/10/2007 10:56:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, joefoto at charter.net writes: Keith Olan Actually it's keith williams. My email address is keith0alan. However, as long as you don't call me late to dinner....... keith ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From joefoto at charter.net Tue Sep 11 07:46:01 2007 From: joefoto at charter.net (Brian Parks) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 06:46:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] tuning SU carbs at Shasta References: Message-ID: <001201c7f47a$17ad0170$2402a8c0@DADSCOMP> sorry keith. ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith0alan at aol.com To: joefoto at charter.net ; pauljsouza at yahoo.com ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] tuning SU carbs at Shasta In a message dated 9/10/2007 10:56:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, joefoto at charter.net writes: Keith Olan Actually it's keith williams. My email address is keith0alan. However, as long as you don't call me late to dinner....... keith ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. From Keith0alan at aol.com Tue Sep 11 14:06:41 2007 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:06:41 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] tuning SU carbs at Shasta Message-ID: In a message dated 9/11/2007 6:46:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, joefoto at charter.net writes: sorry keith. ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith0alan at aol.com To: joefoto at charter.net ; pauljsouza at yahoo.com ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] tuning SU carbs at Shasta In a message dated 9/10/2007 10:56:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, joefoto at charter.net writes: Keith Olan Actually it's keith williams. My email address is keith0alan. However, as long as you don't call me late to dinner....... keith Not a problem. I find it sort of amusing. Like having a Norwegen alter ego LOL. kw ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From msedlack at neo.rr.com Tue Sep 11 22:09:25 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:09:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] SOT: Early Z's for sale Message-ID: <002c01c7f4f2$b522acc0$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Got a couple of emails from our local Z-car club about a few early Z's for sale. I know nothing else about these, but thought I'd pass it along to the list since I already have a Z... they're all here in Ohio. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ The first is: " Well I have decided to sell both of my 1972 z's, I have just lost interest in working on them.. I think I'll move up to newer year with less work since I have very little time to dedicate to the up-keep these cars require. My grey one with only 63,600 miles on it - all stock, they could drive it home , I'd like to get $4500 for it -- the other is disassambled and ready for paint - close to it, I need $1500 for it . These would make nice winter projects for someone . anyone interested should call me at 740-927-5970 , or in the daytime 614-888-3404 . Thanks for the help. Mike Eckfeld " The second is below - I have an email that has a lot of pics attached that I can forward to anyone interested. The car is beautiful. " Dave Rankin called me to say that his 83 year old Dad wanted to sell his 1973 240Z with 28m miles. They are asking $13.5m for the car. I am going to take a look at it later when it can be arranged. Dave got my name from a gentleman who was vacationing at the Brown County Inn during the Indy Car Show. The car is located in Cincinnati. His father has owned the car since 1973 and is the second owner. The original owner's wife didn't like it when he took it home and Dave's father bought it from him. Looks like a nice example that has been driven in the rain only once. Fred Fred Jones President ZCCO Hi Fred, Attached are some of the pics of my dad's 1973, Datsun 240Z. Again, it has 28,250 original miles. It still has the original interior which is in excellent condition. No visible signs of rust, as well. I will send the remaining pictures under a separate email. My cell phone number is 702-6996 Best Regards, Dave " From drlsmith at dccnet.com Tue Sep 11 22:19:30 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:19:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Wall hung tire rack / All Nissan North Vancouver, BC References: <001b01c7f42a$be31ffa0$102dcf18@Daryl> <000601c7f487$4c3f07f0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <006001c7f4f4$1e2669e0$102dcf18@Daryl> Great! Thanks for the tips and ideas for the tire rack. Anybody get to the All Nissan Show in North Vancouver this past weekend? I missed it again unfortunately.... :-( just can't seem to get that one on my calender before it's too late! And no one ever mentions it on this list!! Guess I'll have to try to keep track of it and push for a few more roadsters to show up next year....... From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Sep 11 23:11:46 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:11:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SOT: Early Z's for sale In-Reply-To: <002c01c7f4f2$b522acc0$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Message-ID: <000301c7f4fb$6da7ca70$6401a8c0@xp> The second Z has been driven 28 million miles and they want 13.5 million dollars? Or maybe that's a typo? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sedlack Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:09 PM To: Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: [Roadsters] SOT: Early Z's for sale Got a couple of emails from our local Z-car club about a few early Z's for sale. I know nothing else about these, but thought I'd pass it along to the list since I already have a Z... they're all here in Ohio. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ The first is: " Well I have decided to sell both of my 1972 z's, I have just lost interest in working on them.. I think I'll move up to newer year with less work since I have very little time to dedicate to the up-keep these cars require. My grey one with only 63,600 miles on it - all stock, they could drive it home , I'd like to get $4500 for it -- the other is disassambled and ready for paint - close to it, I need $1500 for it . These would make nice winter projects for someone . anyone interested should call me at 740-927-5970 , or in the daytime 614-888-3404 . Thanks for the help. Mike Eckfeld " The second is below - I have an email that has a lot of pics attached that I can forward to anyone interested. The car is beautiful. " Dave Rankin called me to say that his 83 year old Dad wanted to sell his 1973 240Z with 28m miles. They are asking $13.5m for the car. I am going to take a look at it later when it can be arranged. Dave got my name from a gentleman who was vacationing at the Brown County Inn during the Indy Car Show. The car is located in Cincinnati. His father has owned the car since 1973 and is the second owner. The original owner's wife didn't like it when he took it home and Dave's father bought it from him. Looks like a nice example that has been driven in the rain only once. Fred Fred Jones President ZCCO Hi Fred, Attached are some of the pics of my dad's 1973, Datsun 240Z. Again, it has 28,250 original miles. It still has the original interior which is in excellent condition. No visible signs of rust, as well. I will send the remaining pictures under a separate email. My cell phone number is 702-6996 Best Regards, Dave " Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Sep 11 23:14:46 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:14:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Wall hung tire rack / All Nissan North Vancouver, BC In-Reply-To: <006001c7f4f4$1e2669e0$102dcf18@Daryl> Message-ID: <000401c7f4fb$d8de89a0$6401a8c0@xp> Yeah, I wanted to go, too, but... It was all over the various 510 forums. ` ___ ' Pete - (O o) - ------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo---- Lake Forest Park, WA 1966 1600 SPL311 1966 L20B WPL411 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 9:20 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Wall hung tire rack / All Nissan North Vancouver, BC Great! Thanks for the tips and ideas for the tire rack. Anybody get to the All Nissan Show in North Vancouver this past weekend? I missed it again unfortunately.... :-( just can't seem to get that one on my calender before it's too late! And no one ever mentions it on this list!! Guess I'll have to try to keep track of it and push for a few more roadsters to show up next year....... From matthews517 at earthlink.net Wed Sep 12 09:34:17 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:34:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI Alternator question Message-ID: Hi All, Long time no see! I have been running a 10SI alternator on Loreli for several months now. Here's the issue. At idle (approx 700 RPM), the alt doesn't put out enough power to fully power the headlights. My solution was to put a smaller pulley on the alt. This seems to have worked OK. (FYI, this is no easy task. That nut is on there REALLY TIGHT!!!) My question involves the wiring for the alt. I have a 10 ga wire going to the battery from the alt stud. I have a 10 ga wire going from the alt stud to the #1 terminal on the alt (yes, yes, everything I've seen says it goes to the #2 terminal). I have an idiot light going from the + side of the coil to the #2 terminal. I also have a 10 ga wire going to the original red BATT wire for the stock alt (thru a 30 amp maxi fuse as suggested on 311s.org) just to cover all my bases. Why does my alternator work wired like this and not when wired correctly? i.e. alt stud to #2 and idiot light to #1? When looking at the alt from the rear, the case is marked as #1 on the left (it's also marked with an R) and #2 on the right (also marked with an F). All schematics I've found state that #1 is Field which should have the idiot light and #2 is Sense which should have power from the alt stud. Ideas? Matt Smith and Loreli She's a 70' Silver Solex P.S. My treatments continue. They're being effective, but it's really getting old. From andycost at earthlink.net Wed Sep 12 11:18:24 2007 From: andycost at earthlink.net (Andy Cost) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:18:24 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI Alternator question Message-ID: <32967417.1189617505264.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> It should take 12 volts at the F terminal to excite the alternator. If you don't hook up any excite wires then the alternator may self excite when it reaches 3500 rpms or something like that. It is very possible that is why you weren't charging at idle. Try putting 12 volts to the F terminal. The other terminal is a ground for the battery idiot light if I remember correctly. I could be completely wrong. Andy From fred.davidson at sympatico.ca Wed Sep 12 12:24:44 2007 From: fred.davidson at sympatico.ca (Fred Davidson) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:24:44 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI Alternator question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c7f56a$3307dbc0$6b76e2d1@DDBHLZ81> Matthew: First of all if you want some info on how 3 wire alternators work or should be installed there is a lot of info at the following website http://www.madelectrical.com/index.shtml The system on my roadster provides power to a central block (not to the battery) the battery charge comes from the central block, the sensing wire from the alternator #2 goes to the central block as well to sense power requirements there, the wire from #1 on the alternator goes to gauge and light on the dash. A power wire goes from the block to the main fuse box. My headlights are served by two relays, powered from the main fuse box. All my systems are protected by fusable links at the main power block. In my Datsun's case I did not use Mad Electrical's products but I have seen them used on another car and they seem to be of good quality. I have a very reliable system as long as grounds are cleaned and making a good connection. Hope this helps. Fred -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+fred.davidson=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+fred.davidson=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: September 12, 2007 11:34 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI Alternator question Hi All, Long time no see! I have been running a 10SI alternator on Loreli for several months now. Here's the issue. At idle (approx 700 RPM), the alt doesn't put out enough power to fully power the headlights. My solution was to put a smaller pulley on the alt. This seems to have worked OK. (FYI, this is no easy task. That nut is on there REALLY TIGHT!!!) My question involves the wiring for the alt. I have a 10 ga wire going to the battery from the alt stud. I have a 10 ga wire going from the alt stud to the #1 terminal on the alt (yes, yes, everything I've seen says it goes to the #2 terminal). I have an idiot light going from the + side of the coil to the #2 terminal. I also have a 10 ga wire going to the original red BATT wire for the stock alt (thru a 30 amp maxi fuse as suggested on 311s.org) just to cover all my bases. Why does my alternator work wired like this and not when wired correctly? i.e. alt stud to #2 and idiot light to #1? When looking at the alt from the rear, the case is marked as #1 on the left (it's also marked with an R) and #2 on the right (also marked with an F). All schematics I've found state that #1 is Field which should have the idiot light and #2 is Sense which should have power from the alt stud. Ideas? Matt Smith and Loreli She's a 70' Silver Solex P.S. My treatments continue. They're being effective, but it's really getting old. ________________________________________ fred.davidson at sympatico.ca Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Wed Sep 12 17:43:57 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:43:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI Alternator question In-Reply-To: <000001c7f56a$3307dbc0$6b76e2d1@DDBHLZ81> Message-ID: Thank you Fred! That website gave me some good ideas. Heading to the parts store now!!! YAY! ANOTHER PROJECT!!! :) Matt -----Original Message----- From: Fred Davidson [mailto:fred.davidson at sympatico.ca] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:25 PM To: 'Matthew A. Smith' Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI Alternator question Matthew: First of all if you want some info on how 3 wire alternators work or should be installed there is a lot of info at the following website http://www.madelectrical.com/index.shtml The system on my roadster provides power to a central block (not to the battery) the battery charge comes from the central block, the sensing wire from the alternator #2 goes to the central block as well to sense power requirements there, the wire from #1 on the alternator goes to gauge and light on the dash. A power wire goes from the block to the main fuse box. My headlights are served by two relays, powered from the main fuse box. All my systems are protected by fusable links at the main power block. In my Datsun's case I did not use Mad Electrical's products but I have seen them used on another car and they seem to be of good quality. I have a very reliable system as long as grounds are cleaned and making a good connection. Hope this helps. Fred From drlsmith at dccnet.com Wed Sep 12 22:48:36 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:48:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Delco 10SI Alternator question Message-ID: <009201c7f5c1$59060b10$102dcf18@Daryl> Fred, Thanks for the link, those articles on the alternator conversion should be a 'must read' for anyone doing a conversion. Some really good information there. Daryl > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fred Davidson" > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI Alternator question > > >> Matthew: >> >> >> First of all if you want some info on how 3 wire alternators work or >> should >> be installed there is a lot of info at the following website >> http://www.madelectrical.com/index.shtml The system on my roadster >> provides power to a central block (not to the battery) the battery charge >> comes from the central block, the sensing wire from the alternator #2 >> goes >> to the central block as well to sense power requirements there, the wire >> from #1 on the alternator goes to gauge and light on the dash. A power >> wire >> goes from the block to the main fuse box. My headlights are served by two >> relays, powered from the main fuse box. All my systems are protected by >> fusable links at the main power block. In my Datsun's case I did not use >> Mad >> Electrical's products but I have seen them used on another car and they >> seem >> to be of good quality. >> >> I have a very reliable system as long as grounds are cleaned and making a >> good connection. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Fred From tom at datsun2000.com Thu Sep 13 12:12:59 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:12:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI Alternator question Message-ID: Matt, I have a GM alternator in Mr. Hyde. If I remember correctly the idiot light is the excitation lead. I played with several bulbs in this circuit and found that some caused the alternator to require a lot of revs before it would come to life. I finally ended up with a #53 bulb, which requires a few RPM to start charging the battery, but it is a good compromise for me. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 9/12/2007 8:34:17 AM, Matthew A. Smith (matthews517 at earthlink.net) wrote: > Hi All, > > Long time no see! > > I have been running a 10SI alternator on Loreli for several months now. > Here's the issue. At idle (approx 700 RPM), the alt doesn't put out > enough > power to fully power the headlights. My solution was to put a smaller > pulley > on the alt. This seems to have worked OK. (FYI, this is no easy task. > That > nut is on there REALLY TIGHT!!!) > > > > My question involves the wiring for the alt. I have a 10 ga wire going to > the battery from the alt stud. I have a 10 ga wire going from the alt > stud > to the #1 terminal on the alt (yes, yes, everything > I've seen says it goes > to the #2 terminal). I have an idiot light going from the + side of the coil > to the #2 terminal. I also have a 10 ga wire going to the original red BATT > wire for the stock alt (thru a 30 amp maxi fuse as suggested on 311s.org) > just to cover all my bases. > > > > Why does my alternator work wired like this and not when wired correctly? > i.e. alt stud to #2 and idiot light to #1? When looking at the alt from the > rear, the case is marked as #1 on the left (it's > also marked with an From bstjacques at atrua.com Thu Sep 13 12:34:53 2007 From: bstjacques at atrua.com (Brian St. Jacques) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:34:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI Alternator question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <9FDC37889ED3CF479988599DD681FA0F158FBE@exch01.icontrolinc.com> Is this why there is often a resistor or resistor wire in parallel with the bulb? Anyone know how much resistance is typically used there? Brian '68 1600 growing closer to SR20DE -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+bstjacques=atrua.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom @ Datsun2000 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:13 AM To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net; Matthew A. Smith Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI Alternator question Matt, I have a GM alternator in Mr. Hyde. If I remember correctly the idiot light is the excitation lead. I played with several bulbs in this circuit and found that some caused the alternator to require a lot of revs before it would come to life. I finally ended up with a #53 bulb, which requires a few RPM to start charging the battery, but it is a good compromise for me. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org On 9/12/2007 8:34:17 AM, Matthew A. Smith (matthews517 at earthlink.net) wrote: > Hi All, > > Long time no see! > > I have been running a 10SI alternator on Loreli for several months now. > Here's the issue. At idle (approx 700 RPM), the alt doesn't put out > enough power to fully power the headlights. My solution was to put a > smaller pulley on the alt. This seems to have worked OK. (FYI, this is > no easy task. > That > nut is on there REALLY TIGHT!!!) > > > > My question involves the wiring for the alt. I have a 10 ga wire going > to the battery from the alt stud. I have a 10 ga wire going from the > alt stud to the #1 terminal on the alt (yes, yes, everything I've seen > says it goes to the #2 terminal). I have an idiot light going from the > + side of the coil > to the #2 terminal. I also have a 10 ga wire going to the original red BATT > wire for the stock alt (thru a 30 amp maxi fuse as suggested on > 311s.org) just to cover all my bases. > > > > Why does my alternator work wired like this and not when wired correctly? > i.e. alt stud to #2 and idiot light to #1? When looking at the alt > from the > rear, the case is marked as #1 on the left (it's also marked with an ________________________________________ bstjacques at atrua.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 13 13:08:23 2007 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Help! mechanical genius needed Message-ID: <225942.15352.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I recently embarked on a SU carb to MC carb conversion and now what I thought would be the least of my problem is turning into a nightmare. These carbs (Mikuni Flat slide) pull so much vaccum that I can't overcome the pedal resistance. These carbs work somewhat like the SU's but with one major difference in that the center pull bellcrank actually lifts all 4 slides, in essence I am controlling the airflow. A few fellas around have noted to me that maybe my stock linkage is ratio challenged. I have noted that the vertical bar where the cable links to is approx the same length as the pedal to pivot point distance around 8 inches which puts it at around 1-1 ratio. Does the lever and fulcrum theory come into play here? One guy says that by reducing the vertical bar to a shorter length of say 4inch vs 8inch that I would increase my ratio to 2-1 effort advantage. Does this make sense? Would this really make it somewhat effortless than before? Another from the 311s site w as nice enough to suggest a floor pedal (direct lever) as in pic. I'm wondering now whether I should experiment with my existing pedal or just go to this floor mount. Does anyone know whether this floor mount is more advantageous than playing around with the stock pedal? What do you experts think? I miss driving it, down for 2 months now. Help. Thanks, Tom [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of 625fmg6097cablebracket.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/pjpeg which had a name of 625FMG6097.jpg] From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 13 13:20:24 2007 From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Mechanical genius needed Message-ID: <827732.76424.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello again, The floor pedal I refer to is the custom type which is hinged to the floor by 4 bolts, the cable runs to it from the engine side. The pics are toward the bottom of page. http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6561 From sky at drizzle.com Thu Sep 13 18:43:10 2007 From: sky at drizzle.com (Roel Hammerschlag) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 17:43:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] filling up a '70 1600 cooling system Message-ID: <46E9D91E.4050001@drizzle.com> Hi folks, I have a 1970 1600. At the risk of embarrassing myself: Every time I drain the cooling system I have the most incredibly difficult time filling it back up. Because the thermostat's closed, it's virtually impossible to get the block filled with water. The very suboptimal solution I've come up with is to run the engine half dry until the thermostat opens despite not being submerged (the temp gauge usually reads over 260 before this happens) and then sloooowwwwwly adding more fluid into the running engine so as not to crack anything. There's GOT to be a better way. Can someone help me out? - Roel P.S. I also don't really understand how that reservoir tank on the side works, either. Maybe this is part of my problem. I try to keep it roughly half full like the original manual says. From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Sep 13 19:01:39 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:31:39 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] filling up a '70 1600 cooling system In-Reply-To: <46E9D91E.4050001@drizzle.com> References: <46E9D91E.4050001@drizzle.com> Message-ID: <000001c7f66a$f497bde0$426fa8c0@desktop> Hi Roel, What you need is a thermostat with a jiggle valve. This is a little weighted dooby that normally closes off a tiny hole in the thermostat plate. When you fill up the cooling system, the valve is pushed open by the escaping air. When the coolant reaches the thermostat, the valve is closed off. A tiny hole in the thermo plate will achieve the same thing. Just big enough to bleed the trapped air but not pass a huge amount of water [as it were!] The cap on the radiator is not a pressure cap, just a sealing cap. The pressure cap should be on the overflow tank which gets the burped air from the system. I have a pic. Of the thermo. With jiggler if you want one. Every time I drain the cooling system I have the most incredibly difficult time filling it back up. Because the thermostat's closed, it's virtually impossible to get the block filled with water. The very suboptimal solution I've come up with is to run the engine half dry until the thermostat opens despite not being submerged (the temp gauge usually reads over 260 before this happens) and then sloooowwwwwly adding more fluid into the running engine so as not to crack anything. There's GOT to be a better way. Can someone help me out? - Roel P.S. I also don't really understand how that reservoir tank on the side works, either. Maybe this is part of my problem. I try to keep it roughly half full like the original manual says. _ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.16/1004 - Release Date: 12/09/2007 5:22 PM From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Thu Sep 13 19:04:57 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:04:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] filling up a '70 1600 cooling system In-Reply-To: <46E9D91E.4050001@drizzle.com> References: <46E9D91E.4050001@drizzle.com> Message-ID: <46E9DE39.1070805@hornesystemstx.com> Roel, There are a three ways to make things easier. One is to drill a small hole in the thermostat flange to allow air to escape from below the thermostat. A 1/8" will do the trick. Another is to open the thermostat by pushing a screw driver or rod onto the top of the thermostat, opening it up to let the air out. Finally, if the thermostat is out of the engine, open the thermostat and insert an aspirin tablet to hold it open. When the water level gets the aspirin wet it will dissolve. The trick is to keep the water from getting to the aspirin from the top. Good luck. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Roel Hammerschlag: > Hi folks, > > I have a 1970 1600. At the risk of embarrassing myself: > > Every time I drain the cooling system I have the most incredibly > difficult time filling it back up. Because the thermostat's closed, > it's virtually impossible to get the block filled with water. The very > suboptimal solution I've come up with is to run the engine half dry > until the thermostat opens despite not being submerged (the temp gauge > usually reads over 260 before this happens) and then sloooowwwwwly > adding more fluid into the running engine so as not to crack anything. > There's GOT to be a better way. Can someone help me out? > > - Roel > > P.S. I also don't really understand how that reservoir tank on the side > works, either. Maybe this is part of my problem. I try to keep it > roughly half full like the original manual says. > ________________________________________ > > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From msedlack at neo.rr.com Thu Sep 13 19:48:22 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:48:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] filling up a '70 1600 cooling system References: <46E9D91E.4050001@drizzle.com> <46E9DE39.1070805@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <002b01c7f671$5607af30$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Pat, That aspirin trick is a new one for me - I'll definitely commit it to memory. Thanks, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Horne" To: "Roel Hammerschlag" Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] filling up a '70 1600 cooling system > Roel, > > There are a three ways to make things easier. > > One is to drill a small hole in the thermostat flange to allow air to > escape from below the thermostat. A 1/8" will do the trick. > > Another is to open the thermostat by pushing a screw driver or rod onto > the top of the thermostat, opening it up to let the air out. > > Finally, if the thermostat is out of the engine, open the thermostat and > insert an aspirin tablet to hold it open. When the water level gets the > aspirin wet it will dissolve. The trick is to keep the water from > getting to the aspirin from the top. > > Good luck. > > Peace, > Pat From fairlady66 at gmail.com Thu Sep 13 20:36:59 2007 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:36:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] filling up a '70 1600 cooling system In-Reply-To: <46E9DE39.1070805@hornesystemstx.com> References: <46E9D91E.4050001@drizzle.com> <46E9DE39.1070805@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: Heck, the aspirin may also keep the engine from getting a high temp. After all, it is the wonder-drug. :O) Chris On 9/13/07, Pat Horne wrote: > > Roel, > > There are a three ways to make things easier. > > One is to drill a small hole in the thermostat flange to allow air to > escape from below the thermostat. A 1/8" will do the trick. > > Another is to open the thermostat by pushing a screw driver or rod onto > the top of the thermostat, opening it up to let the air out. > > Finally, if the thermostat is out of the engine, open the thermostat and > insert an aspirin tablet to hold it open. When the water level gets the > aspirin wet it will dissolve. The trick is to keep the water from > getting to the aspirin from the top. > > Good luck. > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Roel Hammerschlag: > > Hi folks, > > > > I have a 1970 1600. At the risk of embarrassing myself: > > > > Every time I drain the cooling system I have the most incredibly > > difficult time filling it back up. Because the thermostat's closed, > > it's virtually impossible to get the block filled with water. The very > > suboptimal solution I've come up with is to run the engine half dry > > until the thermostat opens despite not being submerged (the temp gauge > > usually reads over 260 before this happens) and then sloooowwwwwly > > adding more fluid into the running engine so as not to crack anything. > > There's GOT to be a better way. Can someone help me out? > > > > - Roel > > > > P.S. I also don't really understand how that reservoir tank on the side > > works, either. Maybe this is part of my problem. I try to keep it > > roughly half full like the original manual says. > > ________________________________________ > > > > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > > > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- > ________________________________________ > > fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one. From bubwin at mts.net Thu Sep 13 22:11:33 2007 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:11:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] filling up a '70 1600 cooling system In-Reply-To: <46E9DE39.1070805@hornesystemstx.com> References: <46E9D91E.4050001@drizzle.com> <46E9DE39.1070805@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <3610379EA9E24CF3A3444D5099559E67@BobPC> Does the Aspirin method cure the headache associated with this? LOL Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy (finally working on her again!) 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Horne" To: "Roel Hammerschlag" Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] filling up a '70 1600 cooling system > Roel, > > There are a three ways to make things easier. > > One is to drill a small hole in the thermostat flange to allow air to > escape from below the thermostat. A 1/8" will do the trick. > > Another is to open the thermostat by pushing a screw driver or rod onto > the top of the thermostat, opening it up to let the air out. > > Finally, if the thermostat is out of the engine, open the thermostat and > insert an aspirin tablet to hold it open. When the water level gets the > aspirin wet it will dissolve. The trick is to keep the water from > getting to the aspirin from the top. > > Good luck. > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Roel Hammerschlag: >> Hi folks, >> >> I have a 1970 1600. At the risk of embarrassing myself: >> >> Every time I drain the cooling system I have the most incredibly >> difficult time filling it back up. Because the thermostat's closed, >> it's virtually impossible to get the block filled with water. The very >> suboptimal solution I've come up with is to run the engine half dry >> until the thermostat opens despite not being submerged (the temp gauge >> usually reads over 260 before this happens) and then sloooowwwwwly >> adding more fluid into the running engine so as not to crack anything. >> There's GOT to be a better way. Can someone help me out? >> >> - Roel >> >> P.S. I also don't really understand how that reservoir tank on the side >> works, either. Maybe this is part of my problem. I try to keep it >> roughly half full like the original manual says. >> ________________________________________ >> >> roadsters at hornesystemstx.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> >> > > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- > ________________________________________ > > bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From will-mart14 at cox.net Fri Sep 14 00:25:39 2007 From: will-mart14 at cox.net (will-mart14 at cox.net) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:25:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Advice Message-ID: <12999118.1189751139238.JavaMail.root@fed1wml07.mgt.cox.net> in a month or so i will be replacing my transmission in my 69 datsun 2000 roadster any advice as to how i can make this process go smoother? From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Sep 14 05:55:45 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:55:45 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Paul Gabriel's e-mail address? Message-ID: <003401c7f6c6$32203ec0$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> wondered if someone could send me Paul Gabriel's e-mail address or the link to his 2 roadsters he was looking to sell one of- Thanks Craig From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Sep 14 06:11:50 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:11:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] sorta OT- triple weber setup for Z car, more roadster parts Message-ID: <005801c7f6c8$76a33cd0$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> I picked up a 260Z 2+2 the other day, will be selling it on ebay as a parts car... actually a better body than the other 2 Z's I have. came with a triple weber setup, don't see Canon on the manifold(s) appears it was mounted on the engine new and likely never run. has dust and some of the bolts have rust on them, the small velocity stacks are rusty on the outside of the carbs. seemed unusual to me that the center carburetor sits slightly lower than the other 2. anyhow, this setup is for sale reasonable. engine in the car appears to have been gone thru, tape over all the orifices although it's come off a couple of the plug holes.. camshaft is new, whole top end clean as a whistle, appears to have had freezeplugs put in and other evidences of work on it. car had a new dash- not a dashpad- installed. sheetmetal all very good with slight rocker rust. needs some floor work. figured I'd offer the weber setup to the list members first- $500 will buy them- if no interest, will list the car and the carbs separately on ebay. no title, parts only. contact me offlist if interested. Craig picking up a bunch more roadster parts next week, the inventory list is divided into New and used parts and is in the mail. was told he had them stored "on 3 levels" took a couple weeks for him to get me together the list. also picking up a truckload of parts tomorrow, includes early armrest consoles and a bunch of other stuff. anyone need axle shafts? doors? anything else used? have barns full... From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Sep 14 06:46:08 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:46:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 68 2000 for sale in Binghamton NY area Message-ID: <007901c7f6cd$3bda7690$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> if anyone's interested, I have a 68 2000 for sale near Binghamton NY that I got as part of a 2 car deal. paint had been stripped and it has surface rust, but it has a very solid body, unusual for up that way. has the softtop frame inside, didn't check for any deformation of the front bow. has a hardtop also. $1500 buys it, worth more than that in parts. photos available, contact me offlist if interested. you would pick up where it is (Vestal) and save me a 2nd trip. Craig From svedise at hotmail.com Fri Sep 14 08:36:44 2007 From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:36:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] test Message-ID: test From jedwabny at earthlink.net Fri Sep 14 09:58:49 2007 From: jedwabny at earthlink.net (Joseph Jedwabny) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:58:49 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Hemmings September Issue Message-ID: <12303436.1189785529331.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hello all, Anyone read the Sept issue of Hemming's Sports and Exotics about our Roadsters? I tried to pickup an issue but didn't get one. I can partially see the issue online but I'm not a subscriber. Is it worth buying the back issue? Thanks.... From slowboy at cox.net Fri Sep 14 10:40:36 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:40:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Too Damn Quiet adn Roadster demise Message-ID: <000601c7f6ed$fa82b2e0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> We need to go out and find 100 people to buy beat up roadsters and restore them. I know, I know, we have a bunch of roadsters being restored, but those owners have already gone through all the newbie questions that seem to perk up the LIST. I must have gotten to the LIST back in 97 when there was a purchase spurt of roadsters. I have watched the low periods since then. The biggest low spot was always the Shasta weekend. That was always the best time to buy roadster stuff on Ebay too. Since I am at home I guess I could go pay attention to that roadster project in the garage. It's 9 am here in Phoenix and my garage is already over a 100 degrees. Before I go sweat in the garage sauna there is a news flash. The first roadster (1970 SPL) I bought that got me into this which turned out to be too far gone has now gone to semi-roadster heaven. It was dragged off the property two nights ago by an individual that wants to restore it. The car had already sat for 25 years when I got it plus the nine I had it. When I got it all the exposed wires where chewed up by critters. The car was the critters outhouse. The only part of the interior that was any good was the uncraked dash. It had been in an accident at a few points as both doors had filler throughout. The rear end had been hit twice. The engine had siezed and later after I got the head off I found the pistons rusted to the block. It had been a southern California car and appeared to have been in a flood. The list goes on so I decided to use it for parts. I cut out the steering column to upgrade the 66, removed the front end suspension, and pulled all useable electrics plus other odds & ends. Despite my telling him about the car and what I did to it he seemed to want to restore it. Therefore, I let him have it and told him to call if he has any questions. I also told him he could get a running roadster for a fraction of what it would take to put that car back together. I am sure after he gets into the car it will be stripped further and then make the finally journey to see Saint Katayama! Off to the sweat room.... SlowBoy (Jim) Peoria, AZ (Just West of Hell) 66, 67, 70, 70 (minus the second 70) From jklingman at stny.rr.com Fri Sep 14 11:26:24 2007 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:26:24 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen 2007 Message-ID: <000f01c7f6f4$608a06a0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Hi all, The Glen was terrific, 40th anniversary of the 2000 and 20th year of Datsuns at the Glen, thanks Mark. We live close to the Glen and get there several times a summer, and been to the Vintage Race many times. Last year was our first Datsun gathering , we had just bought our roadster a few months before( Craig Halsted found us a nice '68 2000); this year we drove our roadster, Spike, to the Glen. As the newbies, we have been waiting for the "old timers" to talk it up. No one was at a loss for words at the Glen. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 a.k.a. Spike From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Sep 14 12:20:31 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:20:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Too Damn Quiet adn Roadster demise References: <000601c7f6ed$fa82b2e0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Message-ID: <003701c7f6fb$f1f83bf0$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> >We need to go out and find 100 people to buy beat up roadsters and restore them. I know, I know, we have a bunch of roadsters being restored, but those owners have already gone through all the newbie questions that seem to perk up the LIST. send the first 40 or so over to my place ;-) Craig From vincent.vaccaro at us.pwc.com Fri Sep 14 12:26:40 2007 From: vincent.vaccaro at us.pwc.com (vincent.vaccaro at us.pwc.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:26:40 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I posted this on the 311s site . The Watkins Glen weekend was great. First time back to the Glen since the 1971 US Grand Prix. Friday started with the closing of the entire main street of Watkins Glen. Part of the main street held a vintage car show , two roadsters were on display. The highlight of the afternoon is the re-enactment of the early 1948- 1953 sports car races that were held on a 6 mile road track that included the main street of Watkins Glen. One roadster participated . Friday night the DRONE Club held a barbecue ( quality, high octane double IPA was supplied by the Captain Lawrence Brewing Company ). Saturday started with a show and shine in the Wakins Glen State Park. More than 20 roadsters, two Z cars and a Datsun truck participated. Link to some pictures; I had some camera problems , so, limited shots. http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8AZtmjlu1ZuWEx&emid=sharshar&linkid=link2 Saturday afternoon the roadsters split up, some went wine tasting and others went to the track to see the SVAR races. I believe Andy Vitek from Philadelphia in roadster # 123 placed 3rd in Sundays final of Group 3cp. Saturday night most of the roadsters gathered in Watkins Glen State Park for an informal get together and raffle of various roadster parts , gift certificates, other goodies and beer. At the end of the night all said goodbyes until next year. Looking forward to next year. _________________________________________________________________ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP is a Delaware limited liability partnership. From boakes at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 12:40:30 2007 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:40:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Too Damn Quiet adn Roadster demise In-Reply-To: <003701c7f6fb$f1f83bf0$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> References: <000601c7f6ed$fa82b2e0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> <003701c7f6fb$f1f83bf0$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> Message-ID: <3ad057d60709141140i22aeb00dj4719d5eb28b91272@mail.gmail.com> I'll take the next 10, though they have to come with a garage to fit them. Oh, and have to get them to the midwest. -bill Libertyville, IL On 9/14/07, Craig Halsted wrote: > >We need to go out and find 100 people to buy beat up roadsters and restore > them. I know, I know, we have a bunch of roadsters being restored, but those > owners have already gone through all the newbie questions that seem to perk > up > the LIST. > > send the first 40 or so over to my place ;-) > > Craig > ________________________________________ > > boakes at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From hrgspg at dejazzd.com Fri Sep 14 13:57:16 2007 From: hrgspg at dejazzd.com (hrgspg dejazzd.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:57:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Hex Nuts 1/4 X 32 Message-ID: Anyone with information on how to find hex nuts 1/4 by 32 thread. I bought new screws to attach the fenders to the body and cannot find the appropriate hex nuts to match. From hrgspg at dejazzd.com Fri Sep 14 14:03:09 2007 From: hrgspg at dejazzd.com (hrgspg dejazzd.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:03:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] hex nuts 1/4 by 32 thread Message-ID: Anyone with info on how to obtain hex nuts 1/4 by 32 thread. I have some new screws I'm going to use to attach the front fenders and can't seem to find this size hex nuts. Hope this is a quick fix Rick '67 1600 From hrgspg at dejazzd.com Fri Sep 14 14:06:46 2007 From: hrgspg at dejazzd.com (hrgspg dejazzd.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:06:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] hex nuts 1/4 by 32? Message-ID: <872703f7353b3749.46eab196@dejazzd.com> How/where do I get these. I have new screws to attach my front fenders and need hex nuts to match. 1/4 by 32 thread. From Lindosojosss at aol.com Fri Sep 14 14:16:17 2007 From: Lindosojosss at aol.com (Lindosojosss at aol.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:16:17 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] lindosojosss@aol.com Message-ID: please delete me from the mailing list ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From D-SOLOMON at comcast.net Fri Sep 14 15:21:38 2007 From: D-SOLOMON at comcast.net (D-SOLOMON at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:21:38 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] hex nuts 1/4 by 32 thread Message-ID: <091420072121.15363.46EAFB6200081B6A00003C032200761394B2B1B3B1B4B1ACD3BB@comcast.net> mcmaster.com -------------- Original message -------------- From: "hrgspg dejazzd.com" > Anyone with info on how to obtain hex nuts 1/4 by 32 thread. I have > some new screws I'm going to use to attach the front fenders and can't > seem to find this size hex nuts. Hope this is a quick fix > > Rick '67 1600 > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Sep 14 15:26:34 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:26:34 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Pump removal tips? Message-ID: <8C9C52D0FB04217-AC0-25C6@webmail-me13.sysops.aol.com> Hello, I posted this to the other list as well, I am trying to remove the fuel pump but it? bumps up against the frame rail and can not be wedged out. I need to change it so that I can drive to the Datsun BBQ tommorrow. It is leaking out the bottom and I have cleaned it and tightened the screws but it can not be saved. Any removal tips appreciated. It has the thick flange and spacer block. Might I have to remove the studs to get it out? thanks Linda ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From AffordPlbg at aol.com Fri Sep 14 18:33:51 2007 From: AffordPlbg at aol.com (AffordPlbg at aol.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:33:51 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Hemmings September Issue Message-ID: Yes, I read the article and it's all about the 1600. I think the back issue is definitely worth getting. Hope this helps. Gary ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Fri Sep 14 18:52:58 2007 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:52:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] hex nuts 1/4 by 32 thread In-Reply-To: <091420072121.15363.46EAFB6200081B6A00003C032200761394B2B1B3B1B4B1ACD3BB@comcast.net> References: <091420072121.15363.46EAFB6200081B6A00003C032200761394B2B1B3B1B4B1ACD3BB@comcast.net> Message-ID: hi rick, you're sure the threads are 32 and not 28, which are a ton easier to find nuts for? im guessing the head on the screw is what you like. can you find 1/4 by 28 screws with that head? just throwing up diff. ideas. bob 69 srl311> From: D-SOLOMON at comcast.net> To: hrgspg at dejazzd.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:21:38 +0000> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] hex nuts 1/4 by 32 thread> > mcmaster.com> > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "hrgspg dejazzd.com" > > > Anyone with info on how to obtain hex nuts 1/4 by 32 thread. I have > > some new screws I'm going to use to attach the front fenders and can't > > seem to find this size hex nuts. Hope this is a quick fix > > > > Rick '67 1600 > > ________________________________________ > > > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________> > rksmith46 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Capture your memories in an online journal! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com Fri Sep 14 19:24:52 2007 From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:24:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] filling up a '70 1600 cooling system In-Reply-To: <000001c7f66a$f497bde0$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: Additional hints from me: you can cut off the jiggler valve with some diaganal cutting plyers and have a hole there just the right size, and not subject to closing in any way. I routinly either cut off the jiggler valve, or if no valve, drill a 1/8th hole. If refilling a system that is completely drained, and the thermostat is too hard to take apart, like the tower studs are siezed, then loosen up the higher up of the two heater hoses, and build a hose and funnel setup that allows filling the car from the heater hose. You can fill the radiator, and then the rest from the heater hose. This is of course not a perfect solution, but will work just fine. Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake Va 67 pushrod 2L "SAKE RKT" 72 510 sportwagon project >From: "Graeme" >To: "'Roel Hammerschlag'" , > >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] filling up a '70 1600 cooling system >Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:31:39 +0930 > > Hi Roel, >What you need is a thermostat with a jiggle valve. >This is a little weighted dooby that normally closes off a tiny hole in the >thermostat plate. >When you fill up the cooling system, the valve is pushed open by the >escaping air. >When the coolant reaches the thermostat, the valve is closed off. >A tiny hole in the thermo plate will achieve the same thing. >Just big enough to bleed the trapped air but not pass a huge amount of >water >[as it were!] > >The cap on the radiator is not a pressure cap, just a sealing cap. >The pressure cap should be on the overflow tank which gets the burped air >from the system. > >I have a pic. Of the thermo. With jiggler if you want one. > >Every time I drain the cooling system I have the most incredibly difficult >time filling it back up. Because the thermostat's closed, it's virtually >impossible to get the block filled with water. The very suboptimal >solution >I've come up with is to run the engine half dry until the thermostat opens >despite not being submerged (the temp gauge usually reads over 260 before >this happens) and then sloooowwwwwly adding more fluid into the running >engine so as not to crack anything. >There's GOT to be a better way. Can someone help me out? > >- Roel > >P.S. I also don't really understand how that reservoir tank on the side >works, either. Maybe this is part of my problem. I try to keep it roughly >half full like the original manual says. >_ > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.485 / Virus Database: 269.13.16/1004 - Release Date: >12/09/2007 >5:22 PM >________________________________________ > >nqrithfordatsun at msn.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From fergus06 at socal.rr.com Fri Sep 14 20:48:50 2007 From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:48:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] fuel pump removal, hmmm Message-ID: <002201c7f742$f2b8ad80$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> Linda, I cheated, and had a new diaphragm from Stan, and "rebuilt" the fuel pump without removing it. Can't have to remove studs (Nissan engr's too smart for that). there must be some sequence of removing bits and twisting the lever arm that drives the pump. I am leaving early, can swing by. cell: 310-919-8077 be up that way around 11:30 or so (maybe earlier), leave good directions on this home e-mail (copied) as my printer cartridges are dry, so I am writing it all down. have tools, will travel. Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA From fergus06 at socal.rr.com Fri Sep 14 21:27:58 2007 From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:27:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Help! mechanical genius needed, throttle pedal challenges Message-ID: <002d01c7f748$6a7de510$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> Tom, perplexed you are, but not too far off. It is time to get a bit more geometric on this challenge. We need to get a 15-25# fish scale, and see how much force the stock vertical linkage arm is pulling on the carb cable linkage (Keith Williams, got any ballpark quantitative number on this?) Without this, we get a pc of PVC pipe and some cheap poly rope and some small weights (arm curl dumbbells or ankle weights) and make set-up where the PVC pipe is our new 'belllcrank', as close as possible to the same height and perpendicular to the cable outage, the poly rope is the cable extension, and we weight the end of the rope until the pedal feels "neutral". Then we know std pedal force needed to overcome cable friction. Now do the same for your new set-up, in the opposite direction, finding the force needed to actuate the throttle set-up you have. (when running, which seem to be the challenge) Then work the geometry, (free-body diagram) measure the radii of the bell-crank(s), (partial pulley curves) , lever arms in the system, and work out what we need. Then go looking in junkyards (and possibly motorcycle junkyards for the cable linkage that made that carb set-up work at only wrist torque) for parts, and maybe Summit and other folks. Anyone, am I way off base? Beuller? Phergus O'PhysicsPhun, 69 2000, HB, CA From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Sep 14 21:34:32 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:34:32 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Help! mechanical genius needed, throttle pedal challenges In-Reply-To: <002d01c7f748$6a7de510$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> References: <002d01c7f748$6a7de510$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> Message-ID: <8C9C56076D3DD47-CE8-3041@webmail-me10.sysops.aol.com> I only had one physics class and I am totally lost. I'm glad I am working on a fuel pump. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Fergus OFarrell To: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 8:27 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Help! mechanical genius needed, throttle pedal challenges Tom, perplexed you are, but not too far off. It is time to get a bit more geometric on this challenge. We need to get a 15-25# fish scale, and see how much force the stock vertical linkage arm is pulling on the carb cable linkage (Keith Williams, got any ballpark quantitative number on this?) Without this, we get a pc of PVC pipe and some cheap poly rope and some small weights (arm curl dumbbells or ankle weights) and make set-up where the PVC pipe is our new 'belllcrank', as close as possible to the same height and perpendicular to the cable outage, the poly rope is the cable extension, and we weight the end of the rope until the pedal feels "neutral". Then we know std pedal force needed to overcome cable friction. Now do the same for your new set-up, in the opposite direction, finding the force needed to actuate the throttle set-up you have. (when running, which seem to be the challenge) Then work the geometry, (free-body diagram) measure the radii of the bell-crank(s), (partial pulley curves) , lever arms in the system, and work out what we need. Then go looking in junkyards (and possibly motorcycle junkyards for the cable linkage that made that carb set-up work at only wrist torque) for parts, and maybe Summit and other folks. Anyone, am I way off base? Beuller? Phergus O'PhysicsPhun, 69 2000, HB, CA ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From gsglasgow at comcast.net Fri Sep 14 22:46:49 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:46:49 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Help! mechanical genius needed, throttle pedal challenges In-Reply-To: <002d01c7f748$6a7de510$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> Message-ID: Just remember the simple fact that if you change the geometry to reduce your foot effort by half, you will also double the range of motion your foot will go through. Have you considered changing the throttle return springs? I'm unfamiliar with slide throttle setups. I assume they still have something of the sort. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Fergus OFarrell > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:28 PM > To: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Help! mechanical genius needed, throttle pedal > challenges > > > Tom, > perplexed you are, but not too far off. > > It is time to get a bit more geometric on this challenge. > We need to get a 15-25# fish scale, and see how much force the > stock vertical > linkage arm is pulling on the carb cable linkage (Keith Williams, got any > ballpark quantitative number on this?) > > Without this, we get a pc of PVC pipe and some cheap poly rope > and some small > weights (arm curl dumbbells or ankle weights) and make set-up > where the PVC > pipe is our new 'belllcrank', as close as possible to the same height and > perpendicular to the cable outage, the poly rope is the cable > extension, and > we weight the end of the rope until the pedal feels "neutral". > Then we know > std pedal force needed to overcome cable friction. > > Now do the same for your new set-up, in the opposite direction, > finding the > force needed to actuate the throttle set-up you have. (when running, which > seem to be the challenge) > Then work the geometry, (free-body diagram) measure the radii of the > bell-crank(s), (partial pulley curves) , lever arms in the > system, and work > out what we need. Then go looking in junkyards (and possibly motorcycle > junkyards for the cable linkage that made that carb set-up work > at only wrist > torque) for parts, and maybe Summit and other folks. > > Anyone, am I way off base? Beuller? > > Phergus O'PhysicsPhun, 69 2000, HB, CA > ________________________________________ > > gsglasgow at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tom at datsun2000.com Sat Sep 15 12:42:14 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:42:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pinion Seal Question & OT Message-ID: Just before Shasta I replaced the pinion seal in Mr. Hyde because I was loosing gear lube through that seal. I also had a top put on the car after the seal was replaced and they noticed that there was a leak from the rear-end when the moved the car. It is still leaking very slowly and I am wondering what I did wrong, or is there something else that could be causing the gear lube to be forced around the seal? On another note I am working on the brakes of a 92 Ford F250 Heavy Duty diesel. The pedal goes down and applies the brakes, but it will not come back up by itself. Adding a bungee cord to the brake pedal as a return spring actually improves the braking, but I am not going to drive it that way. At this point I have replaced the master cylinder and vacuum amplifier with no improvement. I plan to re-bleed the brakes today with a vacuum pump to see if there is any air hiding somewhere. Has anybody seen anything else that might be causing my problem? And last, you computer guys might take a look at a video on youtube. It features Justin Rattner, Director of Technology of Intel Corp. In the first link he describes building his first computer (1960), and the second video relates to his presentation in an upcoming Intel developers conference later this month in San Francisco. The other people you don't see in the car are the cameraman and the driver.... Me. I have to say we all had a lot of fun on this ride. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh1r0hWlJTA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmdpObfe-ms Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org From svedise at hotmail.com Sat Sep 15 13:06:06 2007 From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:06:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pinion Seal Question & OT References: Message-ID: check the surface the seal rides on and make sure it is not grooved you can also check the diff. breather to see if it's plugged. Jim > Just before Shasta I replaced the pinion seal in Mr. Hyde because I was > loosing gear lube through that seal. I also had a top put on the car > after > the seal was replaced and they noticed that there was a leak from the > rear-end when the moved the car. It is still leaking very slowly and I am > wondering what I did wrong, or is there something else that could be > causing > the gear lube to be forced around the seal? > > On another note I am working on the brakes of a 92 Ford F250 Heavy Duty > diesel. The pedal goes down and applies the brakes, but it will not come > back up by itself. Adding a bungee cord to the brake pedal as a return > spring actually improves the braking, but I am not going to drive it that > way. At this point I have replaced the master cylinder and vacuum > amplifier > with no improvement. I plan to re-bleed the brakes today with a vacuum > pump > to see if there is any air hiding somewhere. Has anybody seen anything > else > that might be causing my problem? > > And last, you computer guys might take a look at a video on youtube. It > features Justin Rattner, Director of Technology of Intel Corp. In the > first > link he describes building his first computer (1960), and the second video > relates to his presentation in an upcoming Intel developers conference > later > this month in San Francisco. The other people you don't see in the car > are > the cameraman and the driver.... Me. I have to say we all had a lot of > fun > on this ride. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh1r0hWlJTA > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmdpObfe-ms > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org From escanlon at wa-net.com Sat Sep 15 15:02:26 2007 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:02:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] fuel pump removal, hmmm References: <002201c7f742$f2b8ad80$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> Message-ID: <000a01c7f7db$b8ece5a0$0300a8c0@HPWIDESCREEN> I postd this on 311s, but I'll post it here for those that don't go there: Since my car is currently in a position to play with this, I gave it a try to determine if there was a simple procedure to installing/removing the fuel pump. After all, they must have envisioned having to do this as part of regular maintenance at some point. What I found is this: First remove the nuts holding the fuel pump to the block. (Question for others out there, are there supposed to be lock washers on this? Mine did not have any, seems the studs are way too short, and any longer would REALLY make removal a royal pain.) Next, pull on the fuel pump till the stud flanges just clear the studs on the block, then you rotate the complete pump assembly just a bit. Either to where a line perpendicular to the top of the pump points to the 1:30 or the 10:30 position (if you could view it directly from the side of the engine block). The axis of rotation goes directly though the center of the bottom half of the fuel pump, side to side of the car/block. Then rotate the bottom half of the pump away from the block with the axis of rotation being perpendicular to the position you chose. That is if you rotated to the 1:30 position, you would rotate the bottom part of the pump's body with the axis going between the 10:30 and 4:30 points. (Conversely, top @ 10:30 axis is at 1:30/7:30.) The axis now goes through the UPPER half of the pump. I'm trying to describe something that will be very easy and almost intuitive ... once you rotate the fuel pump. I've done this both ways, and have NOT had to lift or move the motor at all. Re-installation is just as simple ( "Reversal of Removal" ), except that you first must make sure the lever that operates the pump will insert into the block and be above the portion of the crank that actuates it. HTH Enrique From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 15 16:00:31 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:00:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] manifold question References: <000001c7f56a$3307dbc0$6b76e2d1@DDBHLZ81> Message-ID: <000401c7f7e4$0cbb63c0$8215a8c0@Garage.local> i am putting the intake and exhaust manifolds back on after some maintenance/renovation. is there a particular order? torque setting? thanks! early 67 low windshield 1600 roadster From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 15 16:02:01 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:02:01 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] parts needed References: <000401c7f34b$220be490$6401a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <000501c7f7e4$0d2dd4a0$8215a8c0@Garage.local> Hi all. apparently the hood prop rod did not come back from the paint shop. grr! anyone have one to sell? also, the plastic water overflow container hold down bracket - anyone have one of those? thanks! early 67 low windshield 1600 roadster From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Sep 15 19:34:59 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:04:59 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] manifold question In-Reply-To: <000401c7f7e4$0cbb63c0$8215a8c0@Garage.local> References: <000001c7f56a$3307dbc0$6b76e2d1@DDBHLZ81> <000401c7f7e4$0cbb63c0$8215a8c0@Garage.local> Message-ID: <000501c7f801$cc6d2830$426fa8c0@desktop> i am putting the intake and exhaust manifolds back on after some maintenance/renovation. is there a particular order? torque setting? Hi Oliver, First up, torque values are 10 - 20 ft/lb. So that would be "tight" using a ring spanner, hardly worth using a torque wrench! I advise using a good quality sealant around all the port holes like Maniseal or a similar hi temp manifold sealant. I like to see that goop get squeezed out of the joins so I know that there is enough to do the job. If your doing this with the engine in the car you will need to be clever in the order of assembly since there are "impossible to get to" fasteners underneath the inlet. I've never done the installation, but.... I'm guessing exhaust goes in first, nip up the fasteners, add the inlet, fit remaining fasteners. Then using a 3 year olds wrist and fingers, tighten all the fasteners starting from the centre and working your way to either end alternately. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.19/1008 - Release Date: 14/09/2007 8:59 AM From tminerpcav at aol.com Sat Sep 15 19:37:51 2007 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 21:37:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Alvin HELP! In-Reply-To: <000501c7f7e4$0d2dd4a0$8215a8c0@Garage.local> References: <000401c7f34b$220be490$6401a8c0@xp> <000501c7f7e4$0d2dd4a0$8215a8c0@Garage.local> Message-ID: <8C9C61954B10C0D-FB4-4F77@mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com> Hey Alvin, I need some advice.? Please contact me. Tim Miner 949-510-4434 cell tminerpcav at aol.com ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From jover4x4 at aol.com Sat Sep 15 20:38:52 2007 From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 22:38:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Pinion Seal Question & OT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C9C621DAA9A96C-C88-4FF2@mblk-d36.sysops.aol.com> Tom, If you find the sealing surface on the pinion is?worn or groooved you can probably find?a "speedy sleeve" that fits the pinion diameter to press over the worn area and repair the sealing surface.? Do an internet search on speedy sleeve and reply if you don't find what you are looking for. Good Luck, John Over Denver -----Original Message----- From: Tom @ Datsun2000 To: Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net Sent: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:42 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Pinion Seal Question & OT Just before Shasta I replaced the pinion seal in Mr. Hyde because I was loosing gear lube through that seal. I also had a top put on the car after the seal was replaced and they noticed that there was a leak from the rear-end when the moved the car. It is still leaking very slowly and I am wondering what I did wrong, or is there something else that could be causing the gear lube to be forced around the seal? On another note I am working on the brakes of a 92 Ford F250 Heavy Duty diesel. The pedal goes down and applies the brakes, but it will not come back up by itself. Adding a bungee cord to the brake pedal as a return spring actually improves the braking, but I am not going to drive it that way. At this point I have replaced the master cylinder and vacuum amplifier with no improvement. I plan to re-bleed the brakes today with a vacuum pump to see if there is any air hiding somewhere. Has anybody seen anything else that might be causing my problem? And last, you computer guys might take a look at a video on youtube. It features Justin Rattner, Director of Technology of Intel Corp. In the first link he describes building his first computer (1960), and the second video relates to his presentation in an upcoming Intel developers conference later this month in San Francisco. The other people you don't see in the car are the cameraman and the driver.... Me. I have to say we all had a lot of fun on this ride. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh1r0hWlJTA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmdpObfe-ms Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org ________________________________________ jover4x4 at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. 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From xiojason at gmail.com Sun Sep 16 12:35:37 2007 From: xiojason at gmail.com (Jason Simpson) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 11:35:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Datsun 1600 for sale in Seattle Message-ID: <8ec1ce0709161135s48ce12f3xa44c7d6de11e413f@mail.gmail.com> I bought this '70 1600 several years back with all sorts of good intentions. Unfortunately, I just couldn't put the right kind and quantity of effort into the project, and it's been sitting for a while now, partly disassembled. It's mostly complete if a little rough, and condition is probably about what's to be expected from sitting for a while. Some photos up at http://xio.com/datsun1600/ It's not currently in running condition, so you'll need a trailer. Asking $1200. Fairly motivated to sell. It needs to go soon. Email me at this address (xiojason at gmail.com) if you're interested. -jrs From joek at camberconstruction.com Sun Sep 16 13:28:49 2007 From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:28:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Timing chain tensioner and oil pressure Message-ID: <200709161928.l8GJSwCG016883@flpi185.prodigy.net> Hello All, I'm looking for some technical advice. My '68 2000 was giving me an occasional death rattle sound upon startup, but not every time, and usually only after it was fully warmed up. I was also noticing my oil pressure seemed low, especially during longer drives. My car was recently stolen, and it appears the guy who stole it took it for the shear fun of driving seeing what it takes to break it. Fortunately, our cars are pretty tough. But now upon start up when cold, it gets the death rattle bad, and it lasts for 5 or more seconds. Unfortunately, I didn't think to look at the oil pressure before pulling the engine for needed transmission repairs (yep, they broke that too). Now I'm trying to figure out what to do about the timing assembly. There are signs of wear on the so called "evil L", though very light. When I rotate the engine so the chain goes slack on the right side (looking at it from the front), the chain very loose, and certainly hits the "L". When I rotate it the other direction so that upper tensioner slides out, it slides out 5/16". Is this excessive? And could this have anything to do with oil pressure? Is there a trick to inspecting the timing components without having to pull the head and timing cover? And if I do pull the timing cover, what should I be looking for? Any other recommended things I can check while I have the motor on the stand? Thanks, Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL From andycost at earthlink.net Sun Sep 16 18:58:32 2007 From: andycost at earthlink.net (Andy Cost) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 19:58:32 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Supercharged KA update Message-ID: <12775501.1189990712230.JavaMail.root@elwamui-royal.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Slowly but surely it's coming together. This weekend I built a frame to hold the fuel cell, surge tank, two fuel pumps, associated lines, and fuel filter. I mounted it behind the right rear tire. I will probably mount the water/methanol injection tank to that frame somewhere. I also built a mount for the battery. I was able to find a plastic battery box for the group U81 lawnmower battery. Still to come. Brake, clutch, and fuel lines, roll bar, electrical wiring, aluminum panels to cover the holes in the floorboard and package tray, dash and gauge install, rear shock rebuild, throttle cable, and a million little details. Andy From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sun Sep 16 20:07:19 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:07:19 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] hood prop References: <8ec1ce0709161135s48ce12f3xa44c7d6de11e413f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001201c7f8cf$d18a77e0$8215a8c0@Garage.local> hi, all. can someone tell me the length in inches of a early 67 low windshield 1600 roadster? many thanks!!!!!!!!! From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Sep 16 22:35:20 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:35:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] hood prop In-Reply-To: <001201c7f8cf$d18a77e0$8215a8c0@Garage.local> Message-ID: <000f01c7f8e4$2ae26320$6401a8c0@xp> Length of the hood prop or length of the car? -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 7:07 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] hood prop hi, all. can someone tell me the length in inches of a early 67 low windshield 1600 roadster? many thanks!!!!!!!!! Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Sep 16 22:34:33 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:34:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Speakers in Mazda Seats In-Reply-To: <8ec1ce0709161135s48ce12f3xa44c7d6de11e413f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi List I am installing a set of 'currently' speakerless Mazda seats. There is a zippered pocket in the headrest which apparently accepts speakers, but I cannot see a path to take the wiring from the base to the headrest. Any thorts BTW - they are muy comfortable - cannot wait to have them installed and road test them. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From slowboy at cox.net Sun Sep 16 22:50:15 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 21:50:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Speakers in Mazda Seats References: Message-ID: <003001c7f8e6$3d70aef0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Mine goes down the back on the inside and comes out the botom back of the seat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Speakers in Mazda Seats > Hi List > I am installing a set of 'currently' speakerless Mazda seats. There is a > zippered pocket in the headrest which apparently accepts speakers, but I > cannot see a path to take the wiring from the base to the headrest. > > Any thorts > > BTW - they are muy comfortable - cannot wait to have them installed and > road > test them. > > Peter > Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Sep 16 23:03:42 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:03:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Backup lights In-Reply-To: <003001c7f8e6$3d70aef0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Message-ID: As part of my ongoing 'tidying up' of the back end, according to my own lights, I am thinking of removing the backiup lights (as supplied) and mounting something in the rear panel (probably in place of the rear reflectors) MGB comes to mind - any other thorts Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From slowboy at cox.net Sun Sep 16 23:36:47 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 22:36:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Backup lights References: Message-ID: <000801c7f8ec$bdce9070$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Got a picture! ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:03 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Backup lights > As part of my ongoing 'tidying up' of the back end, according to my own > lights, I am thinking of removing the backiup lights (as supplied) and > mounting something in the rear panel (probably in place of the rear > reflectors) > MGB comes to mind - any other thorts From alvingogi at hotmail.com Mon Sep 17 00:19:55 2007 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:19:55 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Francis' '67 SPL in 1/32 Message-ID: _________________________________________________________________ Capture your memories in an online journal! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From alvingogi at hotmail.com Mon Sep 17 00:38:47 2007 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:38:47 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: _________________________________________________________________ Gear up for Halo. 3 with free downloads and an exclusive offer. Its our way of saying thanks for using Windows Live. http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_WLHMTxt_2 From althausdesign1 at freenet.de Wed Sep 12 04:09:18 2007 From: althausdesign1 at freenet.de (Althaus Design) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:09:18 +0200 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster Message-ID: <000001c7f525$0d8ce100$0373a8c0@yourc43b3fd694> Hi, I just bought a Fairlady roadster in SF bay area. It must be one of the last ever built. SPL311-31283 R-119843 4/70 Do you have information which was the last vin no. and how many SPLs were have been build after my leaves the factory. Thank you very much, best regards from Germany, Thomas Althaus AlthausDesign F|rstenwall 143 D 40215 D|sseldorf ________________ Fon 0049-211-3859051 Fax 0049-211-3859052 From lars.tungen at abaris.no Mon Sep 17 01:45:34 2007 From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:45:34 +0200 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster In-Reply-To: <000001c7f525$0d8ce100$0373a8c0@yourc43b3fd694> Message-ID: <005601c7f8fe$bca68600$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> > Do you have information which was the last vin no. and how > many SPLs were have been build after my leaves the factory. According to the book "Fair Lady, Japan's First Sports Car" by Phill Brook, the last vin# for the left hand drive 1600 is SPL311-31400. Lars Tungen No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 16.09.2007 18:32 From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Mon Sep 17 06:40:54 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:40:54 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Stock 14" rims Message-ID: When at a car show this weekend, I had a gentleman come up to me asking if I knew anyone needing stock steel 14" roadster rims. I don't, but I do have his name and number. He is located in Ft. Morgan Colorado. He was asking $10.00 each and said he had 4 rims (maybe a fifth with white wall tire). Contact me off list if you need his contact info. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From tputland at charter.net Mon Sep 17 07:24:04 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 9:24:04 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070917092405.8JGDY.594491.root@fepweb15> Double IPA made by a local brewery. That alone would have been enough for me. Add some beautiful Roadsters and what looked to be great weather and you have a perfect day. You all on the coasts have it great. No club in this area any more and I don't have time to try to get one going again. Hopefully soon something will get going! Great shots Vince! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- vincent.vaccaro at us.pwc.com wrote: > I posted this on the 311s site . > > > The Watkins Glen weekend was great. First time back to the Glen since the > 1971 US Grand Prix. > > Friday started with the closing of the entire main street of Watkins Glen. > Part of the main street held a vintage car show , two roadsters were on > display. The highlight of the afternoon is the re-enactment of the early > 1948- 1953 sports car races that were held on a 6 mile road track that > included the main street of Watkins Glen. One roadster participated . > Friday night the DRONE Club held a barbecue ( quality, high octane > double IPA was supplied by the Captain Lawrence Brewing Company ). > > Saturday started with a show and shine in the Wakins Glen State Park. More > than 20 roadsters, two Z cars and a Datsun truck participated. > > Link to some pictures; I had some camera problems , so, limited shots. > > http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8AZtmjlu1ZuWEx&emid=sharshar&linkid=link2 > > Saturday afternoon the roadsters split up, some went wine tasting and > others went to the track to see the SVAR races. I believe Andy Vitek > from Philadelphia in roadster # 123 placed 3rd in Sundays final of > Group 3cp. > > > Saturday night most of the roadsters gathered in Watkins Glen State Park > for an informal get together and raffle of various roadster parts , gift > certificates, other goodies and beer. At the end of the night all said > goodbyes until next year. > > Looking forward to next year. > > > > > __ From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 17 07:32:36 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:32:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] hood prop References: <000f01c7f8e4$2ae26320$6401a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <003101c7f92f$37422790$8215a8c0@Garage.local> that would be the prop rod. my apologies for the confusion. i think i could measure the car ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "'oliver'" ; Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] hood prop > Length of the hood prop or length of the car? > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of oliver > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 7:07 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] hood prop > > > hi, all. can someone tell me the length in inches of a early 67 low > windshield 1600 roadster? > > many thanks!!!!!!!!! From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 17 07:37:02 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:37:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] hood prop References: <000f01c7f8e4$2ae26320$6401a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <005401c7f92f$db357000$8215a8c0@Garage.local> a very kind person has sent me the correct measurement. thanks again to everyone. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: "'oliver'" ; Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 11:35 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] hood prop > Length of the hood prop or length of the car? > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of oliver > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 7:07 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] hood prop > > > hi, all. can someone tell me the length in inches of a early 67 low > windshield 1600 roadster? > > many thanks!!!!!!!!! From msedlack at neo.rr.com Mon Sep 17 09:13:14 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 11:13:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Backup lights References: <000801c7f8ec$bdce9070$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Message-ID: <004e01c7f93d$45084680$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Here's a thought. Why not pick up a set of cheap, projector fog lights like these - http://tinyurl.com/22lzg3 or http://tinyurl.com/2x5gcr They're probably junk as far as fog lights go, but would definitiely be an improvement over stock backup light in both appearance and brightness. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "peter harrison" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:03 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] Backup lights > > > > As part of my ongoing 'tidying up' of the back end, according to my own > > lights, I am thinking of removing the backiup lights (as supplied) and > > mounting something in the rear panel (probably in place of the rear > > reflectors) > > MGB comes to mind - any other thorts From steve at olsonarchitect.com Mon Sep 17 10:10:20 2007 From: steve at olsonarchitect.com (Stephen Wan) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:10:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster sighting Message-ID: <003801c7f945$3ee911f0$7100a8c0@Stephen> I saw red 70' with no model badges running on stock wheels going south at the 5/805 split near encinitas sunday morning at 7 am. Sporting an old Cal Poly Pomona license plate frame. Anyone? Steve 70' 1600 waiting for a tranny swap From slowboy at cox.net Mon Sep 17 10:17:17 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:17:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster References: <000001c7f525$0d8ce100$0373a8c0@yourc43b3fd694> Message-ID: <002d01c7f946$37a11900$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Althaus, You are already on the 311s site at second to last to register. Then there are the numbers on the VIN page. http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.VINNumbers a.. 1970 1600 --SPL311-27001-31350**July 1969--??? 1970 a.. 1970 2000 --SRL311-13001-14450**July 1969--??? 1970 The Datsun Roadster book says there were 1109 1600s and 92 2000s for 1970. This is what Rallye http://www.datsunroadster.com/INFO_PAGES/what_year.htm has NOTE: Highest 1600 vin found so far is SPL311-31304 NOTE: Highest 2000 vin found so far is SRL311-14420 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Althaus Design" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:09 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster > Hi, > > I just bought a Fairlady roadster in SF bay area. > It must be one of the last ever built. > SPL311-31283 > R-119843 > 4/70 > Do you have information which was the last vin no. and how many SPLs > were have been build after my leaves the factory. > > > Thank you very much, > best regards from Germany, > > Thomas Althaus > > > AlthausDesign > F|rstenwall 143 > D 40215 D|sseldorf > ________________ > Fon 0049-211-3859051 > Fax 0049-211-3859052 From alvingogi at hotmail.com Mon Sep 17 10:32:32 2007 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:32:32 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? Message-ID: http://rides.webshots.com/album/560733236LVXyrtThis is a test, can you see the link above?Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline From chalsted at comcast.net Mon Sep 17 10:39:37 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:39:37 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster References: <000001c7f525$0d8ce100$0373a8c0@yourc43b3fd694> <002d01c7f946$37a11900$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Message-ID: <00fd01c7f949$566cd3d0$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> I have 14311.. it's available ;-) Craig From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 17 10:59:27 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster In-Reply-To: <002d01c7f946$37a11900$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Message-ID: <781313.27502.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Does that make the '70 2000 the rarest Roadster of all? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 SlowBoy wrote: Althaus, You are already on the 311s site at second to last to register. Then there are the numbers on the VIN page. http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.VINNumbers a.. 1970 1600 --SPL311-27001-31350**July 1969--??? 1970 a.. 1970 2000 --SRL311-13001-14450**July 1969--??? 1970 The Datsun Roadster book says there were 1109 1600s and 92 2000s for 1970. This is what Rallye http://www.datsunroadster.com/INFO_PAGES/what_year.htm has NOTE: Highest 1600 vin found so far is SPL311-31304 NOTE: Highest 2000 vin found so far is SRL311-14420 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Althaus Design" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:09 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster > Hi, > > I just bought a Fairlady roadster in SF bay area. > It must be one of the last ever built. > SPL311-31283 > R-119843 > 4/70 > Do you have information which was the last vin no. and how many SPLs > were have been build after my leaves the factory. > > > Thank you very much, > best regards from Germany, > > Thomas Althaus > > > AlthausDesign > F|rstenwall 143 > D 40215 D|sseldorf > ________________ > Fon 0049-211-3859051 > Fax 0049-211-3859052 From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Mon Sep 17 11:19:46 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:19:46 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster Message-ID: I beg to differ - the RAREST production roadster would be the earliest 1500 roadster, which would be the VIN# SPL310-00075, which is a single carb, one of only 300 produced but probably only less than a dozen or so with singles. Sorry Craig, I know you think your prototype 1500 is rarer, but I was talking PRODUCTION. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From tputland at charter.net Mon Sep 17 11:22:52 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 13:22:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster In-Reply-To: <781313.27502.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070917132252.L1N3O.601192.root@fepweb15> That is what I was wondering. Since they made so few of them can it be true? If so, maybe I will think about restoring my 70 SRL instead of saving my pennies for a modern engine swap... Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Gary McCormick wrote: > Does that make the '70 2000 the rarest Roadster of all? > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > '70 2000 SRL311-13291 > > SlowBoy wrote: Althaus, > > You are already on the 311s site at second to last to register. Then there > are the numbers on the VIN page. > http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.VINNumbers > > a.. 1970 1600 --SPL311-27001-31350**July 1969--??? 1970 > a.. 1970 2000 --SRL311-13001-14450**July 1969--??? 1970 > > > The Datsun Roadster book says there were 1109 1600s and 92 2000s for 1970. > > > This is what Rallye http://www.datsunroadster.com/INFO_PAGES/what_year.htm > has > > NOTE: Highest 1600 vin found so far is SPL311-31304 > NOTE: Highest 2000 vin found so far is SRL311-14420 > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Althaus Design" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:09 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster > > > > Hi, > > > > I just bought a Fairlady roadster in SF bay area. > > It must be one of the last ever built. > > SPL311-31283 > > R-119843 > > 4/70 > > Do you have information which was the last vin no. and how many SPLs > > were have been build after my leaves the factory. > > > > > > Thank you very much, > > best regards from Germany, > > > > Thomas Althaus > > > > > > AlthausDesign > > F|rstenwall 143 > > D 40215 D|sseldorf > > ________________ > > Fon 0049-211-3859051 > > Fax 0049-211-3859052 > ________________________________________ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Sep 17 11:33:02 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:33:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003201c7f950$cf95cf30$6401a8c0@xp> What about the SPL212 or SPL213? Less than 300, right? Guessing it depends on the date range. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BARTERDUDE at aol.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:20 AM To: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster I beg to differ - the RAREST production roadster would be the earliest 1500 roadster, which would be the VIN# SPL310-00075, which is a single carb, one of only 300 produced but probably only less than a dozen or so with singles. Sorry Craig, I know you think your prototype 1500 is rarer, but I was talking PRODUCTION. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jim at seattle-attorney.com Mon Sep 17 11:46:39 2007 From: jim at seattle-attorney.com (Jim Anable) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:46:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster In-Reply-To: <002d01c7f946$37a11900$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> References: <000001c7f525$0d8ce100$0373a8c0@yourc43b3fd694> <002d01c7f946$37a11900$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Message-ID: <46EEBD7F.2090105@seattle-attorney.com> SlowBoy wrote: > > >The Datsun Roadster book says there were 1109 1600s and 92 2000s for 1970. > > That's not an accurate production number for 1970, is it? I have #13571. From robbpynes at continet.com Mon Sep 17 13:56:11 2007 From: robbpynes at continet.com (robb pynes) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:56:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] A Wade person in Eugene, OR area Message-ID: <20070917195724.470621879D2@autox.team.net> Looking for a Wade who owned 5 or more roadsters in Eugene, Oregon Anyone know his last name or current phone? Thanks From slowboy at cox.net Mon Sep 17 16:45:52 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:45:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster References: <000001c7f525$0d8ce100$0373a8c0@yourc43b3fd694> <002d01c7f946$37a11900$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> <46EEBD7F.2090105@seattle-attorney.com> Message-ID: <003001c7f97c$80e17a70$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Not if you subtract the serial numbers, but I didn't write the book. >>The Datsun Roadster book says there were 1109 1600s and 92 2000s for 1970. >> > > That's not an accurate production number for 1970, is it? I have #13571. From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 17 17:11:49 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:11:49 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46EF09B5.7040507@sbcglobal.net> I wasn't asserting that the '70 2000 is the rarest Roadster, I was asking if it is. Earliest doesn't mean most rare - fewest made or surviving does. If only a dozen out of 300 single-carb 1500s survive, that's pretty rare. How many '70 2000s survive out of the 92 that were built? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 BARTERDUDE at aol.com wrote: > I beg to differ - the RAREST production roadster would be the earliest > 1500 roadster, which would be the VIN# SPL310-00075, which is a single > carb, one of only 300 produced but probably only less than a dozen or > so with singles. > > Sorry Craig, I know you think your prototype 1500 is rarer, but I was > talking PRODUCTION. > > Gary Lasater - Parker CO > founding member www.WyCROC.org > 1963 SPL310-00161C > 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) > 1964 SPL310-01289 > 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) > 1970 SPL311-28169 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See what's new at AOL.com > and Make AOL Your > Homepage . From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Sep 17 17:35:44 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:35:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster In-Reply-To: <46EF09B5.7040507@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <006c01c7f983$7a9ba080$6401a8c0@xp> Well, it gets more interesting as there's 98 1970 2000's listed on the 311s.org registry. Maybe 92 produced may not be accurate. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:12 PM To: BARTERDUDE at aol.com Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster I wasn't asserting that the '70 2000 is the rarest Roadster, I was asking if it is. Earliest doesn't mean most rare - fewest made or surviving does. If only a dozen out of 300 single-carb 1500s survive, that's pretty rare. How many '70 2000s survive out of the 92 that were built? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 BARTERDUDE at aol.com wrote: > I beg to differ - the RAREST production roadster would be the earliest > 1500 roadster, which would be the VIN# SPL310-00075, which is a single > carb, one of only 300 produced but probably only less than a dozen or > so with singles. > > Sorry Craig, I know you think your prototype 1500 is rarer, but I was > talking PRODUCTION. > > Gary Lasater - Parker CO > founding member www.WyCROC.org > 1963 SPL310-00161C > 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) > 1964 SPL310-01289 > 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) > 1970 SPL311-28169 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > See what's new at AOL.com > and Make AOL Your > Homepage . Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Sep 17 17:41:11 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:11:11 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301c7f984$3b074540$426fa8c0@desktop> Certainly can Alvin! [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? http://rides.webshots.com/album/560733236LVXyrtThis is a test, can you see the link above?Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline ________________________________________ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.21/1012 - Release Date: 16/09/2007 6:32 PM From mark at dealermats.com Mon Sep 17 18:00:52 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:00:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster - production numbers References: <006c01c7f983$7a9ba080$6401a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <001501c7f986$fab79e60$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> The book is quoting calender year not model year. There were about 1500 1970 model year 2000's built. Production started in July of 69 and ended April 1970 so logically most of them were built in the calendar year of 1969. Just like I can buy a 2008 model year car now. I have 2 1970's that are not on 311s site, both built in 1970 one is SRL311-14418 which was built in calendar year 1970. The rarest as far as production years are 63 1500 then 67 2000 then 65 1500 then 70 2000. Mark From john at roper-photo.com Mon Sep 17 19:05:52 2007 From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:05:52 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <46EF24C6.3DF6B.68E3@pop.directnic.com> >I beg to differ - the RAREST production roadster would be the earliest >1500 roadster, which would be the VIN# SPL310-00075, which is a single >carb, one of only 300 produced but probably only less than a dozen or >so with singles. Would you like to hear the saddest story ever? About 9-10 years ago when I was first getting into Datsuns there was a white early 1500 on a used car lot for $1000. I didn't buy it because it "only" had a single carb and that "stupid" third seat in the back. I just had to have a dual carb 2000. What a dumbass... From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Mon Sep 17 19:54:08 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:54:08 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster Message-ID: >About 9-10 years ago when I was first getting into Datsuns there was a white >early 1500 on a used car lot for $1000. I didn't buy it because it "only" >had a single carb and that "stupid" third seat in the back. I just had to >have a dual carb 2000. What a dumbass... roflmao. My first reaction to discovering a single carb 1500 was some dumbass was playing around. I had never seen a single in my life and had owned a lot of roadsters. Then I looked a little closer and saw the dash plate indicating 77 HP and I knew the 1500 duals had 85 HP, so I researched further and discovered that the first production cars had singles. Car runs great and has a lot of torque and gives the 1600's a run for the money. Guess we all have some interesting "sad stories", great to hear that one. Hope the car is still restorable and not someone's tuna can. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From mike at bikeswap.com Mon Sep 17 07:57:18 2007 From: mike at bikeswap.com (Mike P) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 06:57:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Early 67 Body Shell in Eastern WA Message-ID: Hi All, I am in Spokane WA and I have an early 67 body shell with frame and fenders that needs to find a new home. I have it listed on craigslist for $100 but I would gladly give it to anyone in the roadster community including resellers and vendors if they can come pick it up very soon. I don't want to see it crushed. The whole car has to go at once as I don't have the time or desire to part it out. There are pictures and a phone number to reach me at in the ad on craigslist at: http://spokane.craigslist.org/car/417460587.html Thanks, Mike Pieczarka 67.5 1600 on it's way back Spokane, WA From tputland at charter.net Tue Sep 18 04:58:32 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 6:58:32 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? In-Reply-To: <000301c7f984$3b074540$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <20070918065832.L8849.125773.root@fepweb11> I can still see it and it still does not work 24 hours later...just so you know in case you didn't.... -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Graeme wrote: > Certainly can Alvin! > > [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/560733236LVXyrtThis is a test, can you see > the link above?Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 From john at roper-photo.com Tue Sep 18 05:45:23 2007 From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:45:23 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? In-Reply-To: <20070918065832.L8849.125773.root@fepweb11> Message-ID: <46EFBAAD.BA147.6421@pop.directnic.com> Link works for me? Pics of a red Roadster model. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+john=roper-photo.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+john=roper-photo.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tputland at charter.net Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:59 AM To: 'alvin gogineni'; Graeme; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? I can still see it and it still does not work 24 hours later...just so you know in case you didn't.... -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Graeme wrote: > Certainly can Alvin! > > [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? > > http://rides.webshots.com/album/560733236LVXyrtThis is a test, can you see > the link above?Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 ________________________________________ john at roper-photo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From dscrib2 at hotmail.com Tue Sep 18 05:51:22 2007 From: dscrib2 at hotmail.com (Dana Scribner) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:51:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Watkins Glen In-Reply-To: <20070917092405.8JGDY.594491.root@fepweb15> Message-ID: I would have replied earlier but I have been detoxing for a week or so. I'd like to thank Dave & Marty for the job they did at the Glen this year. For as little time as you had it turned out good. I'd also thank the suppliers who donated items, Classic motor sport; datsun parts; rising sun racing; bay state nissan and all the people who brought give aways. If you would like to be put on a Wakins Glen mailing list please email me direct and I'll see that it will be done. Vincent great ale. We'll see you next spring. Dana S. 1969 2K _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_hotmailtextlink1 From bradlustig at earthlink.net Tue Sep 18 06:15:26 2007 From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 08:15:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? In-Reply-To: <46EFBAAD.BA147.6421@pop.directnic.com> References: <46EFBAAD.BA147.6421@pop.directnic.com> Message-ID: <46EFC15E.8040108@earthlink.net> Didn't work for me. Title - Webshots - Page Not Found John Roper wrote: > Link works for me? Pics of a red Roadster model. > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+john=roper-photo.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+john=roper-photo.com at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of tputland at charter.net > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:59 AM > To: 'alvin gogineni'; Graeme; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? > > I can still see it and it still does not work 24 hours later...just so you > know in case you didn't.... > -- > > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning From tputland at charter.net Tue Sep 18 06:46:50 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 8:46:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? In-Reply-To: <46EFC15E.8040108@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20070918084650.WH5FO.246146.root@fepweb03> That is what I get as well...page not available...etc -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Brad Lustig wrote: > Didn't work for me. > Title - Webshots - Page Not Found > > John Roper wrote: > > Link works for me? Pics of a red Roadster model. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+john=roper-photo.com at autox.team.net > > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+john=roper-photo.com at autox.team.net] On > > Behalf Of tputland at charter.net > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:59 AM > > To: 'alvin gogineni'; Graeme; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? > > > > I can still see it and it still does not work 24 hours later...just so you > > know in case you didn't.... > > -- > > > > > > Tim > > Belleville, WI. > > '70 SPL AND SRL > > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ From msedlack at neo.rr.com Tue Sep 18 07:32:43 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 09:32:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? References: Message-ID: <001c01c7f9f8$654dc670$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Didn't work at first - some error message about bandwidth exceeded or missing - then I noticed the word "This" at the end of the link...four hit of the backspace key and you can see Francis' 67 model ----- Original Message ----- From: "alvin gogineni" To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 12:32 PM Subject: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? > http://rides.webshots.com/album/560733236LVXyrtThis is a test, can you see the > link above?Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 > _________________________________________________________________ > Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. > http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline > ________________________________________ > > msedlack at neo.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 18 07:58:27 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 06:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster In-Reply-To: <006c01c7f983$7a9ba080$6401a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <245638.85045.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Reminds me of Jay Leno's comment about the Bugatti Royale - "Of the 6 that were built, only 10 remain..."; joking, of course, about the faking that goes on at the highest levels of the classic automobile market. So - take a carburetor off of a 1500, make a new data plate showing 77HP instead of 85 - voila - instant very rare Roadster! ;^) Gary McCormick '70 2000 SRL311-13291 San Jose, CA Pete Peters wrote: Well, it gets more interesting as there's 98 1970 2000's listed on the 311s.org registry. Maybe 92 produced may not be accurate. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 4:12 PM To: BARTERDUDE at aol.com Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster I wasn't asserting that the '70 2000 is the rarest Roadster, I was asking if it is. Earliest doesn't mean most rare - fewest made or surviving does. If only a dozen out of 300 single-carb 1500s survive, that's pretty rare. How many '70 2000s survive out of the 92 that were built? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 BARTERDUDE at aol.com wrote: > I beg to differ - the RAREST production roadster would be the earliest > 1500 roadster, which would be the VIN# SPL310-00075, which is a single > carb, one of only 300 produced but probably only less than a dozen or > so with singles. > > Sorry Craig, I know you think your prototype 1500 is rarer, but I was > talking PRODUCTION. > > Gary Lasater - Parker CO > founding member www.WyCROC.org > 1963 SPL310-00161C > 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) > 1964 SPL310-01289 > 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) > 1970 SPL311-28169 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > See what's new at AOL.com > and Make AOL Your > Homepage . Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Keith0alan at aol.com Tue Sep 18 08:21:52 2007 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:21:52 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Roadster Message-ID: One of the problems, particularly with the 2L Solex B cams is that it could have been built that way at the factory, done at the dealer, or by an owner. All the parts including the tag were available and no records were kept. It is nearly impossible to prove an original car. Detroit on the other hand seemed to have when the lug nut installer blew his nose archived somewhere, I think it's the 14th digit of the serial number. keith " the evil Norwegian twin" 0lan ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Tue Sep 18 13:33:14 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:33:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel Pump removal tips Message-ID: <8C9C841E3B9DB1D-F28-655B@webmail-de17.sysops.aol.com> Got the fuel pump off finally on my car with the help of a fellow Roadsterite, Peter. Looks like the process is to put a jack stand under the right front, take off the tire for good access and visibility, put a 2x4 on edge on the jack and under the edge of the oil pan, right side, and then slowly jack up the motor after you have loosened the right front motor mount nuts quite a bit. When pump clears the frame, remove and replace with early rebuildable or electric. Change oil since gas probably went into oil pan. Thanks to all for tips. Linda 68 1600 ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Sep 18 14:08:28 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:08:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 mods - more questions In-Reply-To: <001c01c7f9f8$654dc670$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Message-ID: Hi list Backup lights I have decided to go with backup lights from Moss Motors (designed for MGB). They are about 2"" square. and @31.00 each Order of knobs on center console. What is the correct DESCENDING order of the 4 knobs for the 1970 1600 Interior Lights. Thinking of having automatic(when the door opens)+manual interior lighting (somewhere under the dash) Any thorts suggestions Rear Bumper - need Not sure of the year, but the bumper with the RECESSED number plate light. I will be rechroming it, but obviously the straigher the better (don't need overriders - not installing them anyway) Map Light Want to install "flexible" map light - probably on some kind of stalk Again, any thorts/suggestions/sources Extra power source (cigarrette lighter type) Again, any thorts/suggestions (location??) Headsets. Although my roadster is quite quiet, after a day of conversing with a passenger, it can be a bit tough on the throat. Looking for install somekind of headset system for the driver/passenger (kind of like one can get for a motor cycle - but don't need helmet) Fuel Filler Would like to put fuel filler under the licesnse plate (clearly I have to find someway of hinging the latter) Again, any thorts/suggestions. Thanks for your input in advance. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN (818) 448 3181 (Van Nuys, California) From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Sep 18 14:39:20 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:39:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 mods - 5 speed tranny In-Reply-To: <001c01c7f9f8$654dc670$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Message-ID: Also looking for a U20 tranny to replace my 4-speed. Any out there? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN 818 448 3181 (Van Nuys, CA) From svedise at hotmail.com Tue Sep 18 17:13:08 2007 From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:13:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? Message-ID: http://rides.webshots.com/album/560733236LVXyrt here Alvin's link Mark was right I just took the this off the end and now it works great Jim From johnwightman at shaw.ca Tue Sep 18 21:39:26 2007 From: johnwightman at shaw.ca (John Wightman) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:39:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? In-Reply-To: <20070918084650.WH5FO.246146.root@fepweb03> Message-ID: <002d01c7fa6e$add766f0$647ba8c0@cobaltconsulting.ca> There was no space between the link and the word "this", so I had to delete "this" from the address bar to make it work. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tputland at charter.net Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:47 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; Brad Lustig Subject: Re: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? That is what I get as well...page not available...etc -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Brad Lustig wrote: > Didn't work for me. > Title - Webshots - Page Not Found > > John Roper wrote: > > Link works for me? Pics of a red Roadster model. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+john=roper-photo.com at autox.team.net > > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+john=roper-photo.com at autox.team.net] On > > Behalf Of tputland at charter.net > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 5:59 AM > > To: 'alvin gogineni'; Graeme; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] link test- can you see it? > > > > I can still see it and it still does not work 24 hours later...just so you > > know in case you didn't.... > > -- > > > > > > Tim > > Belleville, WI. > > '70 SPL AND SRL > > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ From werner1 at comnetus.net Tue Sep 18 22:27:02 2007 From: werner1 at comnetus.net (Perry Werner) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:27:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] rarest - does it really matter? Message-ID: <002201c7fa75$53dedaa0$6401a8c0@perrye9j1m1d2an> the other opinion on rarest would be who has the car with the hardest to obtain parts. i would think the older car would be harder to obtain parts for than the newer, but just IMHO. but does it really matter? i have a fun to drive street legal go-kart with an after market stereo and a cig lighter that doesn't work. i can't drive by without a carload of kids pointing and i can't stop for gas without someone making a comment. i get the wind in my hair and the bugs still miss my teeth. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/bonestomper/Picture003.jpg oh, and if you thought being parked next to one old corvette at a car show kinda blew, be parked next to two http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v671/bonestomper/Picture002.jpg From datsuncpl at yahoo.com Wed Sep 19 18:27:07 2007 From: datsuncpl at yahoo.com (Pat Dave Freed) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] '70 Roadster Message-ID: <940426.49880.qm@web35506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> With all the talk about highest VIN, I started looking closer at mine. It's titled as a '69 and has the tear drop side markers up front and the small round ones at the back. But the VIN is 14172. The former owner took the body off the frame and the numbers matched. So does that make it a '69 or '70? Or do I have a rare '70 with '69 trim? Anyone else with VIN's that don't match the side markers? Pat & Dave Freed SPL311-01861 12,000 original miles SRL311-14172 Modified for Autocrossing --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. From john at roper-photo.com Wed Sep 19 20:57:58 2007 From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:57:58 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] '70 Roadster In-Reply-To: <940426.49880.qm@web35506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46F1E21D.BF839.527F@pop.directnic.com> > So does that make it a '69 or '70? Or do I have a rare '70 with >'69 trim? Anyone else with VIN's that don't match the side markers? FWIW, in the 510 world there were quite a few early '70 cars with various '69 bits. From graemes at internode.on.net Wed Sep 19 21:27:08 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:57:08 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] '70 Roadster In-Reply-To: <46F1E21D.BF839.527F@pop.directnic.com> References: <940426.49880.qm@web35506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <46F1E21D.BF839.527F@pop.directnic.com> Message-ID: <000c01c7fb36$226e53d0$426fa8c0@desktop> It is the old "model changeover" dilemma. My '65 SP310 is virtually a '65 SP311, excepting the G15 to R16, front drum to disc brake and positive to negative earth electrics. If the parts bin still had something in it, it got used till runout, then the changeover to current specs. happened. Makes a mockery of accuracy when evaluating a restoration. Anything may have been used on any car in the factory, quite legitimately. Doesn't happen to the same extent in this day of umpty nine VIN sytems! > So does that make it a '69 or '70? Or do I have a rare '70 with >'69 trim? Anyone else with VIN's that don't match the side markers? FWIW, in the 510 world there were quite a few early '70 cars with various '69 bits. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.22/1015 - Release Date: 18/09/2007 11:53 AM From angelot at comcast.net Wed Sep 19 22:08:05 2007 From: angelot at comcast.net (angelot) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:08:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roll Bar Cover Message-ID: <012e01c7fb3b$d89b7f20$6401a8c0@BOOMER> Hi, I've noticed some nice roadster pictures with leather look roll bar covers. Does anyone know where to buy a cover to fit the common street type roll bar? Angelo 69 2000 From tputland at charter.net Thu Sep 20 04:58:45 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 6:58:45 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] '70 Roadster In-Reply-To: <940426.49880.qm@web35506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070920065845.P4EI4.731.root@fepweb02> When I went to look at the part car I bought, the guy had told me over the phone that the car was a 69 but when I got there, it turned out to be a 68 body style titled as a 69. (I was disappointed but bought the car any way as it was a great deal.) >From what I have read, been told, etc, it was not uncommon to see this. 68s sold as 69, 69 sold as 70. I am far from an expert, but this is my half cent worth. Too poor to have two cents worth of opinion... Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Pat Dave Freed wrote: > With all the talk about highest VIN, I started looking closer at mine. It's titled as a '69 and has the tear drop side markers up front and the small round ones at the back. But the VIN is 14172. The former owner took the body off the frame and the numbers matched. So does that make it a '69 or '70? Or do I have a rare '70 with '69 trim? Anyone else with VIN's that don't match the side markers? > > > Pat & Dave Freed > SPL311-01861 12,000 original miles > SRL311-14172 Modified for Autocrossing From egustavson at bigpond.com Thu Sep 20 16:54:51 2007 From: egustavson at bigpond.com (Eric) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:54:51 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] '70 Roadster - RHD? Message-ID: <46F2FA3B.8070905@bigpond.com> Hi, with all this chat about late models, it prompts me to ask again, whether anyone has ever seen a RHD 1970 1600 ?? I've been looking around for years, but I can't find any other one but mine (SP311-06003). Am I all alone ? regards Eric in Townsville From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Sep 20 16:57:05 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:57:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] '70 Roadster - RHD? In-Reply-To: <46F2FA3B.8070905@bigpond.com> References: <46F2FA3B.8070905@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <8C9C9F0B2D5084A-B74-7C24@webmail-da05.sysops.aol.com> You'd be very lucky if you were---$$$$$$$$$ Linda 68 1600 lots of these -----Original Message----- From: Eric To: Datsun List Sent: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 3:54 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '70 Roadster - RHD? Hi, with all this chat about late models, it prompts me to ask again, whether anyone has ever seen a RHD 1970 1600 ?? I've been looking around for years, but I can't find any other one but mine (SP311-06003). Am I all alone ? regards Eric in Townsville ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From dato1500 at hotmail.com Thu Sep 20 17:14:36 2007 From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:14:36 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] '70 Roadster - RHD? In-Reply-To: <46F2FA3B.8070905@bigpond.com> References: <46F2FA3B.8070905@bigpond.com> Message-ID: I know the location of a early 3 seater single carb in Western Australia. This model was not thought to have been import into Australia until this one was found. Peter> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 08:54:51 +1000> From: egustavson at bigpond.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '70 Roadster - RHD?> > Hi,> with all this chat about late models, it prompts me to ask again, > whether anyone has ever seen a RHD 1970 1600 ??> > I've been looking around for years, but I can't find any other one but > mine (SP311-06003). Am I all alone ?> > regards> > Eric in Townsville> ________________________________________> > dato1500 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Make shopping exciting. Find what you want @ www.eBay.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F 1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%2F%3Fid%3D6&_t=763807330&_r=email_taglines_E BAY&_m=EXT From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Thu Sep 20 17:35:11 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:35:11 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] '70 Roadster - RHD? Message-ID: I'd personally say go get it. The single carb 1500 is rare period, no matter where in the world it's located. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Sep 21 01:24:21 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:24:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Armorall?? (Yes/No) - Substitutes ?? Message-ID: Told twice to avoid Armorall Thorts/Preferences/Suggestions? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From dato1500 at hotmail.com Fri Sep 21 03:01:46 2007 From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:01:46 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Armorall?? (Yes/No) - Substitutes ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stay away from Armorall as it has a oil base and when you stop using it the dash dries at and starts to crack. Plus during a hot day it evaporates and goes all over the windscreen. I use a product in Australia called Mr Sheen its' a spray on funiture cleaner/polish. You can use different products such as dash wipes as long as they don't have a greasy feel to them. Pete> From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:24:21 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] Armorall?? (Yes/No) - Substitutes ??> > Told twice to avoid Armorall> Thorts/Preferences/Suggestions?> > Peter> Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN> ________________________________________> > dato1500 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Roast a Rock Star: watch video interviews with hot music acts http://ninemsn.com.au/share/redir/adTrack.asp?mode=click&clientID=809&referra l=hotmailtagline&URL=http://music.ninemsn.com.au/roastarockstar From graemes at internode.on.net Fri Sep 21 04:06:25 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:36:25 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Armorall?? (Yes/No) - Substitutes ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000301c7fc37$12027420$426fa8c0@desktop> Had a dash reskinned by a local Auto Trimmer. I asked his advice re treatments to keep it looking schmik. His answer: - Just wipe it down with a damp cloth. End Of Story. Told twice to avoid Armorall Thorts/Preferences/Suggestions? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: 20/09/2007 12:07 PM From graemes at internode.on.net Fri Sep 21 05:07:12 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:37:12 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Rotisserie. Message-ID: <000901c7fc3f$8ff31440$426fa8c0@desktop> Hi folks, I'm building a rotor to mount the SP310 body [only] onto and have a few Q's to those who have been here before. >From your experience, where is the "sweet spot" for the pivots, front and rear? I plan to have the vertical orientation adjustable [slotted plate] so I can fine tune the centreline, but I'm after a ballpark location. I going to use the two front and the two rear chassis mount holes for the frame attachment. Are these OK to use considering I have the door openings braced with a tubing framework? The pivots I'm using are actually Datsun drum brake front wheel hubs, bolted to a horizontal platform. I have found these to be ideal for this application and very cheap to purchase [read $ZIP]. They require zero effort to rotate once the load is balanced. Once I get it all working, I'll make the details available to anyone interested. Thanks for any input. P.S. My Sony ImageStation site is closing, so I have had all my restoration pics. re-located to : - HYPERLINK "http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/action/"http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/act ion/ 400+ images of my work on the Fairlady to date. Not quite as sophisticated as the Sony site but, well, there you go. As my son said, you get what you pay for! Regards, Graeme Suckling 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t HYPERLINK "http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/action/"http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/act ion/HYPERLINK "http://www.imagestation.com/members/Nissanman" Adelaide South Australia No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: 20/09/2007 12:07 PM From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com Fri Sep 21 07:15:59 2007 From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 06:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] armor all and car care products Message-ID: <736505.75249.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Larry Reynolds is the ultimate detailing products seller, check him out at www.carcareonline.com A lot of peope think they know everything, he really does, he was a chemist before he was a detailing products dealer and knows this stuff down to the molecular level, Pebble Beach entrants refer to him for their stuff, and he tries to save you money by advsing the least expensive of the literally thousands of premium products he carries. Paint, chrome, aluminium trim, rubber appearance and preservation, he is the man. I have no interest other than being a thrilled customer. He spent two hours on the phone telling me how to use the DeWalt machine polisher that he sold me for less than it was at Home Depot. Alll that being said Vinylex works great for plastic preservation and is available at Pep Boys, its not expensive. Avoid Armor all, call Larry for a detailed explanantion why. Have a great day- Eric Hoffman --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. From ron.young at cox.net Fri Sep 21 08:07:12 2007 From: ron.young at cox.net (ron.young) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:07:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Armorall?? (Yes/No) - Substitutes ?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070921140713.PVZH9743.fed1rmmtao101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> Adams Polish- VRT (vinyl, rubber, tire dressing); check it out at www.adamspolishes.com Entire line of products is great. Ron Young Dana Point, CA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ron.young=cox.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ron.young=cox.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:24 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Armorall?? (Yes/No) - Substitutes ?? Told twice to avoid Armorall Thorts/Preferences/Suggestions? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN ________________________________________ ron.young at cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mtyler at hctc.net Fri Sep 21 10:15:08 2007 From: mtyler at hctc.net (Marc&Heidi) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:15:08 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Rotisserie. In-Reply-To: <000901c7fc3f$8ff31440$426fa8c0@desktop> References: <000901c7fc3f$8ff31440$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <7E2C77B3-37FC-4C0D-AD18-0A0A55DA0D62@hctc.net> I suppose if you felt like getting fancy you could fit up brake shoes and a parking brake lever to lock it down so it won't spin when you lean on it :^) Me, I'll be crawling on the ground like a lizard man. My car is staying on the frame. -Marc On Sep 21, 2007, at 6:07 AM, Graeme wrote: > The pivots I'm using are actually Datsun drum brake front wheel > hubs, bolted > to a horizontal platform. > I have found these to be ideal for this application and very cheap to > purchase [read $ZIP]. > They require zero effort to rotate once the load is balanced. From jsk977 at optonline.net Fri Sep 21 10:16:30 2007 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:16:30 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] armor all and car care products References: <736505.75249.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002c01c7fc6a$c56f7f20$6402a8c0@HP1450> I've been using '303 Aerospace Protectant' on several cars, (but not my roadster). Like the results over time, it's claimed to have excellent UV protection, and FWIW the BMW crowd loves it. Jerry Krakauer SRL311 00099 From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Fri Sep 21 10:44:17 2007 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:44:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Chemical protectants Message-ID: FWIW when my upholstery guy pulled the old seat covers off one of my Roadsters the first thing he pointed out was the backing. The fabric backing along the seams, and other areas where the stuff was able to penetrate, was uniformly stained and brittle, whereas the areas that were untouched by chemical "protectants" were like new. The prior owner had told me that he had kept the surface areas looking good with frequent Armorall applications. I've also heard that Aerospace 303 is a good product and I have used it with good results. I still do use Armorall but on a very, very light basis. Regards, Greg SRL31100494 "Roadstering since '75" From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 21 11:03:30 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Chemical protectants In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <23863.29305.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I Armor-All'd the bench seat on my old PL-521 pickup - once. The good news was that I was certain to use my seatbelt, because the seat was so slippery that w/o the belt I would have slid over to the passenger-side door on left hand turns! Gary McCormick '70 2000 SRL311-13291 San Jose, CA "Gregory S. Morrison" wrote: FWIW when my upholstery guy pulled the old seat covers off one of my Roadsters the first thing he pointed out was the backing. The fabric backing along the seams, and other areas where the stuff was able to penetrate, was uniformly stained and brittle, whereas the areas that were untouched by chemical "protectants" were like new. The prior owner had told me that he had kept the surface areas looking good with frequent Armorall applications. I've also heard that Aerospace 303 is a good product and I have used it with good results. I still do use Armorall but on a very, very light basis. Regards, Greg SRL31100494 "Roadstering since '75" ________________________________________ gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sumton at sbcglobal.net Fri Sep 21 11:02:34 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:02:34 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] armor all and car care products References: <736505.75249.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002c01c7fc6a$c56f7f20$6402a8c0@HP1450> Message-ID: <001e01c7fc71$754ef000$8215a8c0@Garage.local> i purchased a vinyl tonneau cover for a pickup, and the guy insisted that the 303 was the best thing to prolong the life of the tonneau. my brother in law used to use armor all extensively on a black rubber bumper (i think it was a saab), and after a few years the clear plastic lifted off! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Krakauer" To: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] armor all and car care products > I've been using '303 Aerospace Protectant' on several cars, (but not my > roadster). Like the results over time, it's claimed to have excellent UV > protection, and FWIW the BMW crowd loves it. > > > Jerry Krakauer > SRL311 00099 > ________________________________________ From sales at foilgraphics.com Fri Sep 21 11:42:34 2007 From: sales at foilgraphics.com (Guy) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:42:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Chemical protectants References: Message-ID: <003e01c7fc76$ce3db700$6e01a8c0@sales2006> Greetings from Arizona No sun here. Right...We just set an all time record for number of days over 110 degrees in one summer. Where does one find Aerospace 303? Many thanks. Guy 67.5 Phoenix, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" To: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 9:44 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Chemical protectants > FWIW when my upholstery guy pulled the old seat covers off one of my > Roadsters the first thing he pointed out was the backing. The fabric > backing > along the seams, and other areas where the stuff was able to penetrate, > was > uniformly stained and brittle, whereas the areas that were untouched by > chemical "protectants" were like new. The prior owner had told me that he > had kept the surface areas looking good with frequent Armorall > applications. > > I've also heard that Aerospace 303 is a good product and I have used it > with > good results. I still do use Armorall but on a very, very light basis. > > Regards, > Greg > SRL31100494 > "Roadstering since '75" > ________________________________________ > > sales at foilgraphics.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sales at foilgraphics.com Fri Sep 21 11:45:47 2007 From: sales at foilgraphics.com (Guy) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:45:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Rotisserie. References: <000901c7fc3f$8ff31440$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <004101c7fc77$41689830$6e01a8c0@sales2006> Howdy, Have been in lurker mode for some time. However, I will be building my own roadster spinner in the next few months. I will be very interested and appreciative of any suggestions. Many thanks. Guy 67.5 stroker Phoenix, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme" To: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 4:07 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Rotisserie. > Hi folks, > I'm building a rotor to mount the SP310 body [only] onto and have a few > Q's > to those who have been here before. >>From your experience, where is the "sweet spot" for the pivots, front and > rear? > I plan to have the vertical orientation adjustable [slotted plate] so I > can > fine tune the centreline, but I'm after a ballpark location. > > I going to use the two front and the two rear chassis mount holes for the > frame attachment. > Are these OK to use considering I have the door openings braced with a > tubing framework? > > The pivots I'm using are actually Datsun drum brake front wheel hubs, > bolted > to a horizontal platform. > I have found these to be ideal for this application and very cheap to > purchase [read $ZIP]. > They require zero effort to rotate once the load is balanced. > > Once I get it all working, I'll make the details available to anyone > interested. > > Thanks for any input. > P.S. > My Sony ImageStation site is closing, so I have had all my restoration > pics. > re-located to : - > HYPERLINK > "http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/action/"http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/act > ion/ > 400+ images of my work on the Fairlady to date. > Not quite as sophisticated as the Sony site but, well, there you go. > As my son said, you get what you pay for! > Regards, > Graeme Suckling > 1965 SP310 Datsun Sports > 1971 P510 Datsun 1600 > 1972 PL510 Datsun 1600 LHD > 1973 HS30 Datsun 240Z > 1984 B120 Datsun 1200 utility > 1993 ECR33 Skyline GTS25t > HYPERLINK > "http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/action/"http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/act > ion/HYPERLINK "http://www.imagestation.com/members/Nissanman" > Adelaide > South Australia > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 269.13.27/1020 - Release Date: > 20/09/2007 > 12:07 PM > ________________________________________ > > sales at foilgraphics.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From escanlon at wa-net.com Fri Sep 21 11:41:54 2007 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:41:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] armor all and car care products References: <736505.75249.qm@web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002c01c7fc6a$c56f7f20$6402a8c0@HP1450> Message-ID: <004c01c7fc76$b3c374a0$0300a8c0@HPWIDESCREEN> I'll heartily agree on the NOT-Armor All bandwagon. My personal feeling about Armor All is that it is the equivalent of HEROIN for vinyl. It may "look" and "feel" great, but it is literally killing the vinyl. I had a 76 Mercury Capri II (remember those?) that I had meticulously cared for since I bought from the prior owner who was also a "neat-noid". The car had been cared for with Armor All on a regular (at least every couple of weeks) basis...until I entered the Air Force. Then for a period of 12 weeks (Basic Training and Tech School) it didn't get it's periodic "fix". I returned to find a dash with splits the size of the Grand Canyon and other tributaries. As far as what I use, well I have a small stash of a product called "Clear Guard" by the Turtle Wax people. Unfortunately it is no longer being manufactured, my guess is because it worked TOO well. I called the company some time back and was told that sales were sluggish. I can understand why, the product is excellent, lasts forever, doesn't attract dust and only requires a small spray for a large area. So, with the disappearance of Clear Guard, I found Meguiar's Vinyl and Leather Protectant. Very good product, and easy to apply. Lasts a fair length of time, and haven't noticed a lot of dust attraction or any problems. Another product is Boss Gloss from the POR-15 folks. This stuff is excellent, with one major drawback....do NOT use it on any surface that you do NOT want to be slippery. It says so right on the bottle. Items such as Motorcycle Seats, Grips, Car Pedals, Shift Knobs, Steering wheels and any and all Leather and CLEAR Plastic / Plexiglass are items to avoid. Why is it excellent? Because it WILL keep a nice satin shine on vinyl for MONTHS. I've heard many good things about 303, and just recently acquired a bottle, but have not had the opportunity to use it and as such cannot comment one way or the other. FWIW E From d-solomon at comcast.net Fri Sep 21 12:30:48 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:30:48 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Rotisserie. Message-ID: <11622667.1190402891048.JavaMail.teamon@b303.teamon.com> This is very interesting to me, as I am in the design phase of my rotisserie as we speak. (or write, I guess would be more accurate ;-) ) I was also headed to the junkyard for some cheap spindles/bearings/hub assemblies for mine, and I also intend to make the vertical positioning adjustable. It sounds like maybe we'd be smart to compare designs and see if we can learn from each other for a really good setup? If you're interested, lets talk off-list about it. I don't think I can rely on the two front body mounts, as you've described, as I have considerable rust on the inner 'fenderwell', if you will, and will be replacing a lot of metal. I think i'll be building a mount to go all the way in and pickup the body mount under the footwells. My biggest "engineering" hurdle right now is how to make this rotisserie stable, but mobile. (I'd like to be able to roll it around the garage). I'd like to come up with a way to easily "lower" casters (raising the rotisserie) when I want to move it, and then raise them again so the frame sits solidly on the floor while I'm working. Any ideas? Dan (wirelessly, from my pda. Man do my thumbs hurt right now...) -----Original Message----- From: "Graeme" To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: 9/21/07 5:07 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Rotisserie. Hi folks, I'm building a rotor to mount the SP310 body [only] onto and have a few Q's to those who have been here before. >From your experience, where is the "sweet spot" for the pivots, front and rear? I plan to have the vertical orientation adjustable [slotted plate] so I can fine tune the centreline, but I'm after a ballpark location. I going to use the two front and the two rear chassis mount holes for the frame attachment. Are these OK to use considering I have the door openings braced with a tubing framework? The pivots I'm using are actually Datsun drum brake front wheel hubs, bolted to a horizontal platform. I have found these to be ideal for this application and very cheap to purchase [read $ZIP]. They require zero effort to rotate once the load is balanced. Once I get it all working, I'll make the details available to anyone interested. Thanks for any input. P.S. My Sony ImageStation site is closing, so I have had all my restoration pics re-located to : - From mhknorr at msn.com Fri Sep 21 14:50:02 2007 From: mhknorr at msn.com (Michael Knorr) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:50:02 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters] armor all and car care products Message-ID: ******************************************* From: Eric Hoffman Subject: [Roadsters] armor all and car care products To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Message-ID: <736505.75249.qm at web36904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Larry Reynolds is the ultimate detailing products seller, check him out at www.carcareonline.com . . . ******************************************** Ditto to Eric's advice. I've ended up buying all of my car care products from Larry. He sells a wax, PS21-S (I think) that I'm sold on. I buy Vinylex from him by the gallon. Best of all, when you buy from him, he gives you a comprehensive product sheet that contains several pages of car care advice. The advice is online too, but the paper version keeps you from having to haul the computer out onto the driveway. Regards, Michael Knorr 1966 SPL311-03639 From msedlack at neo.rr.com Fri Sep 21 14:50:45 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:50:45 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Rotisserie. References: <000901c7fc3f$8ff31440$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <006801c7fc91$1519ac50$6501a8c0@p428ghz> This may end up being a duplicate, but the reply I sent earlier hasn't shown up yet. Some additional info - even with it on casters, the unit was very stable - wouldn't move around with the force of sanding, etc. The lock bolts on the engine stand were plenty to keep it from rolling, and balanced enough that my 8 yr. old 50 lb daughter could spin it... I have a bunch of pictures of the one I built from two cheapo HF engine stands on this page http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/rotisserie.htm Also more pics on http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/bodywork.htm After working with it on the tub, I went to fit up the fenders, and found the front mounting frame wouldn't work the way it was, so I changed it to allow bolting on the fenders. Required putting an offset in that mount to clear the front apron. Pics on this page http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/bodywork2.htm Sorry I don't have any dimensions ( rotisserie is down at Jim Sloan's race barn, about an hour from here), but there are several side-on pictures at various places on those pages that show an approximate the height of roll-center of the body relative to distinct body features like the step-out of the apron - looks to be just above the bottom of the rear license plate recess, and 2-1/2 - 3" above the apron step in the front. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ From akarcioglu at telus.net Fri Sep 21 16:40:24 2007 From: akarcioglu at telus.net (alp) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:40:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Rotisserie. In-Reply-To: <11622667.1190402891048.JavaMail.teamon@b303.teamon.com> References: <11622667.1190402891048.JavaMail.teamon@b303.teamon.com> Message-ID: <1190414424.46f448584fed7@webmail.telus.net> http://www.dropgates.com/ check into restoration information and then under rotisserie. This is a common VW set-up. Makes spinning the car around and over very easy. Alp From chuckkyle at mac.com Fri Sep 21 21:06:06 2007 From: chuckkyle at mac.com (Charles Kyle) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:06:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 68 Datsun Problems - The Remedy In-Reply-To: <1190414424.46f448584fed7@webmail.telus.net> References: <11622667.1190402891048.JavaMail.teamon@b303.teamon.com> <1190414424.46f448584fed7@webmail.telus.net> Message-ID: <7A4CF423-0115-1000-9FA4-9D100B36DB1C-Webmail-10019@mac.com> Good Evening, Several months ago I posted the below information regarding an issue that I was having with my roadster. Well finally (after 4 months) I have solved, or at least paid for a solution to the problem. So here was the solution: Symptoms that were not solved: 1.) The temp gauge is not working properly, using a temp gun, the engine is around 180 not nearly the 250 that the temp gauge reads 2.) Oil pressure gauge goes crazy - acts like a tachometer when you push on the gas, basically jumps from 0-60 and back down. - no solution but an oil gauge at the shop shows that the oil pressure stays steady. BUT: So the car was running about 45 minutes then backfire, no power. The fuel was not getting from the tank through the filter and to the carbs causing the car to "vapor lock". After replacing the fuel tank, fuel lines, filter. No joy. So what Datsun Dynamics (defunct shop in Alexandria VA owner suggested), we (actually a shop) added a mechanical fuel pump inside the gas tank. The car runs great now. Any one ever done this before? or heard of such a thing? So any suggestions on the gauges? Should I just replace them? Oh the light is burned out in the speedo, is there a trick to that too? Chuck ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a 68 1600 R16 engine. The car runs good for 45 minutes or so. Then it begins to backfire. This backfire is toward the manifold or carbs not through the tailpipe. If I am going 45 mph and it begins to backfire, no matter how much or how little throttle I give it it continues to backfire and rolls to about 5 MPH. At this point it has NO power what so ever. I can stop the car and wait 20 or 30 minutes, it will start and then go for a little while and do the exact same thing. So here is what I have had done so far: 1.) Replaced thermostat and radiator 2.) Engine rebuild 3.) Replaced carbs (from Z-Therapy) 4.) Replaced fuel pump, fuel line and fuel tank Conditions that occur each time: 1.) Temp gauge goes to 220 2.) Oil Pressure gauge starts to look like a tach, jumps from 20 to 40 and then to zero. While it is backfiring and you are giving it gas, the oil press gauge moves up and down the way a tach would do it. 3.) Backfires 4.) Engine is on but the car has NO power. Observations: 1.) There is NO steam or overheat conditions at the radiator that would suggest that it is over heated, no antifreeze in the oil 2.) No oil leaks Any suggestions would be greatly appricated. Chuck Chuck Hm 512-225-4501 From chuckkyle at mac.com Fri Sep 21 21:18:04 2007 From: chuckkyle at mac.com (Charles Kyle) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:18:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 68 Datsun Speedometer issues In-Reply-To: <7A4CF423-0115-1000-9FA4-9D100B36DB1C-Webmail-10019@mac.com> References: <11622667.1190402891048.JavaMail.teamon@b303.teamon.com> <1190414424.46f448584fed7@webmail.telus.net> <7A4CF423-0115-1000-9FA4-9D100B36DB1C-Webmail-10019@mac.com> Message-ID: <7A4CF423-0115-1000-9FBA-9D100B36DB1C-Webmail-10019@mac.com> Here is a speedo issue that I am having, I wonder if it could be a trans pinion solution. for a 68 1600 in which I have put a 5-Speed tran which trans pinion should I have? How difficult is it to replace and where is the best place to get it (I am on the east coast)? What is occurring is that it reads approximately 10 miles faster then my actual speed. The odometer also calculates about the same. For instance today, after going 14 miles on a GPS the odo read 17.4. Chuck Hm 512-225-4501 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Sep 22 09:54:45 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:54:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Rotisserie. In-Reply-To: <004101c7fc77$41689830$6e01a8c0@sales2006> Message-ID: <009a01c7fd30$e9100ff0$6401a8c0@xp> Subject discussed several times w/ pics and stuff on 311s.org. Search the forums. You'll also find how-to-build rotisseries on the Datsun 510 (especially the Bluebirds mailing list) and the Porsche 914 lists. Here's a super heavy duty one a guy designed for a '41 Buick: Pete From tputland at charter.net Sat Sep 22 12:06:53 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:06:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] De smog question--SRL Message-ID: <20070922140653.60VGJ.13134.root@fepweb07> When removing the desmog equipment, it is possible to just plug the end of the pipe that connects the four holes on the top of the head, by the carbs? Or must one plug each hole individually? If it matters at all, this is for the 70 2000. TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From mikef at carolina.rr.com Sat Sep 22 12:10:36 2007 From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:10:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] De smog question--SRL References: <20070922140653.60VGJ.13134.root@fepweb07> Message-ID: <001f01c7fd43$e0918da0$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884> Tim, on my car the holes are plugged individually. mike faggart ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: [Roadsters] De smog question--SRL > When removing the desmog equipment, it is possible to just plug the end of > the pipe that connects the four holes on the top of the head, by the > carbs? Or must one plug each hole individually? > > If it matters at all, this is for the 70 2000. > > TIA > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > > mikef at carolina.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.28/1021 - Release Date: > 9/21/2007 2:02 PM From mikef at carolina.rr.com Sat Sep 22 12:11:39 2007 From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:11:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] armour-all Message-ID: <002601c7fd44$05e55eb0$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884> just threw mine away. damp rag to clean the car dash from now on! mike faggart From fergus06 at socal.rr.com Sat Sep 22 14:08:36 2007 From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:08:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] sweet 510 fs on ebay Message-ID: <000901c7fd54$5c5a9930$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> whether you are into 510's (or rotary's) or not, this is one 'sweet' job done on this one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Turbo-Rotary-Nissan-Datsun-510-1600-Street-Sho w-No-240Z_W0QQitemZ170151787922QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Sep 22 16:41:32 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:41:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] De smog question--SRL In-Reply-To: <20070922140653.60VGJ.13134.root@fepweb07> Message-ID: Tim, Don't know if plugging the one hole will work, or not, but it certainly looks much neater if done individually. On my 1600, the 'pipes' have been substituted with plugs. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Sat Sep 22 16:48:28 2007 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition Key Message-ID: <571142.30394.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> My ignition key broke! I have the business end, but my local locksmith doesn't have the right blank. What to do?? Dealer? One of our vendors? JimG 1969 2000 U20 SRL-311 From tputland at charter.net Sat Sep 22 17:21:54 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:21:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] De smog question--SRL--again In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070922192154.W3I70.56195.root@fepweb15> On my 1600 we did the holes individually and does look clean, more neat, etc. I am done with the motor on this car--hopefully. On my 2000 I am having a very hard time getting one of the nuts loose that is holding the pipe down. This car's engine needs much more work as it leaks like a sieve and might need to be pulled. If I pull it, it might--most likely will-- get replaced with a KA or SR motor--eventually. This is why I really don't want to put much effort into the de-smog effort. This last is why I am wondering if it will work just plugging the end of the pipe. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From mark at dealermats.com Sat Sep 22 17:26:56 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:26:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition Key References: <571142.30394.qm@web51112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01c7fd70$10ef2120$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> See if he has Ignition key blank - Cole #MZ12 for a Mazda. It is the same. Mark ----- Original Message ----- > My ignition key broke! I have the business end, but my local locksmith > doesn't have the right blank. From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Sat Sep 22 19:47:47 2007 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition Key In-Reply-To: <000e01c7fd70$10ef2120$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <972950.85615.qm@web51107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> THANKS!!!!! JimG Mark Dent wrote: See if he has Ignition key blank - Cole #MZ12 for a Mazda. It is the same. Mark ----- Original Message ----- > My ignition key broke! I have the business end, but my local locksmith > doesn't have the right blank. From sandhoff at csus.edu Sun Sep 23 00:13:31 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster sighting Message-ID: Richmond, CA at 43rd and Barrett, under what appeared to be a grey cloth cover. Aftermarket aluminum mesh wheels peeking out. Sure looked like a Roadster. Anyone? Also, I heard there's a shop in San Rafael that works on our cars. Anyone have knowledge of this shop? -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From fergus06 at socal.rr.com Sun Sep 23 14:43:37 2007 From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:43:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] blinker switch activates hi-beams, opinions? Message-ID: <005101c7fe22$6b35f570$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> So, good friend Gary Wasserman sold me a used blinker switch for my 69 2000, which finally solved all my blinker woes. The first time I drove it to work at oh-dark-thirty, I realized that using the blinkers, both directions, also turned on the hi-beams. So, since you know this car, for me, is a "driver", not a resto-to-stock quest, what would be the best course of action: A) wire to a separate toggle switch attached to bottom of dash? (unthread the wires from the stalk and install a radio shack toggle switch (temp-off-constant type). If I was to do this, what minimum amp rating should that switch have? B) is it just contacts to clean or something simple to check? I would be fine with only the instantaneous hi-beam switch side working, as I don't have the occasion to drive with the high beams on for any amount of time. Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA From drlsmith at dccnet.com Sun Sep 23 18:54:37 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 17:54:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Electrical Mods Message-ID: <002001c7fe45$7b910a90$3a3ecf18@Daryl> I know some of you cringe at the thought of modifications to the roadster, but I am way beyond worrying about having things stock on my roadtser. There is currently an electrical modification thread on 311s.org, to which I've just added my auxillary Micra fusebox, and Corrolla battery + cable 'upgrades' to for anyone who might be interested........Links to pictures are in the thread. http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=44830#44830 Cheers Daryl From bengelhardt at sbcglobal.net Mon Sep 24 11:53:31 2007 From: bengelhardt at sbcglobal.net (Bill Engelhardt) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:53:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] De smog question--SRL In-Reply-To: <20070922140653.60VGJ.13134.root@fepweb07> References: <20070922140653.60VGJ.13134.root@fepweb07> Message-ID: <81091FB8-CC0A-46D9-91EC-E74ECAD0989B@sbcglobal.net> I wound up doing both with my '70 2000. When I first pulled the smog stuff to do an alternator swap, I just capped the end of the "manifold." Later, when I replaced the carbs and intake, I removed the smog manifold and plugged each hole. Plugging each hole looks much nicer but didn't seem to have any affect on performance. Bill Engelhardt 1970 2000 Oakland, CA http://roadster.billengelhardt.com On Sep 22, 2007, at 11:06 AM, wrote: > When removing the desmog equipment, it is possible to just plug the > end of the pipe that connects the four holes on the top of the > head, by the carbs? Or must one plug each hole individually? > > If it matters at all, this is for the 70 2000. > > TIA > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > > bengelhardt at sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Sep 24 12:41:05 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:41:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters] armorall and car care products Message-ID: Hi List Thanks for your all responses. Clearly Armorall is a no-no. Unfortunately I just armoralled my seats . Ah well!. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From 12061997 at comcast.net Mon Sep 24 15:59:11 2007 From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:59:11 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun book Message-ID: <092420072159.3474.46F8332F0009099900000D922205886360C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net> Hi List, I have a copy of the Datsun Parts Book and I would like to purchase Scott's book without that part. Does anyone know how to contact him or where one can be purchased? bob ballinger 67-1600 From RiedelD at pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Mon Sep 24 16:35:03 2007 From: RiedelD at pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (Riedel, Dave) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:35:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Jack stand points In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <218011F893D1634FBCA605ED0B3749ABE11288@paciosex01.pac.dfo-mpo.ca> Where's the best place to put jack stands to hold up the front end while I work on the clutch slave cylinder? (A very simple question, but I don't want to damage myself or the car) Dave '69 2000 Victoria, BC From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us Mon Sep 24 16:36:04 2007 From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:36:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Jack stand points References: <218011F893D1634FBCA605ED0B3749ABE11288@paciosex01.pac.dfo-mpo.ca> Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B18441B3B@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us> Frame Rails, lined up with the crossbracing that cantelevers out. Put seats, clutch slave, rollbar, and interior this way, much easier to bend over to when this high up! Eric G Modesto, CA ________________________________ From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us at autox.team.net on behalf of Riedel, Dave Sent: Mon 9/24/2007 3:35 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Jack stand points Where's the best place to put jack stands to hold up the front end while I work on the clutch slave cylinder? (A very simple question, but I don't want to damage myself or the car) Dave '69 2000 Victoria, BC ________________________________________ egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Sep 24 19:21:25 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:21:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] SPL311 - Ongoing Mods In-Reply-To: <005101c7fe22$6b35f570$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> Message-ID: 1. Got the MGB (gasp!) backup lights today - they will look great - 2. Found a aftermarket flip down/up bracket for the license plate for $25 (too lazy to do the parts yards) Looking for the earlier rear bumper that has the recessed license number plate light+light. Doesn't need to be good - just straight - I will rechrome. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Sep 24 21:01:15 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:01:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster S/B Brake Switch/Light. In-Reply-To: <005101c7fe22$6b35f570$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> Message-ID: The light on the console didn't work, so I unscrewed it (actually a bayonet fitting) and found one wire attached with a another soldered end. I initial;ly assumed that the 'other wire' had somehow disconnected itself, yet I can find no wire (loose/unaccounted for) in the immediate vicinity other than the (presumed) input wire. Anyone have any idea how this works (the bulb works by the way) Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From dato1500 at hotmail.com Mon Sep 24 21:40:45 2007 From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:40:45 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Paint Message-ID: Hello all, I am currently looking at painting my car and remember seeing a link on the list to a yellow car with big fat 8'' black stripes and I have lost that link. Can someone point me in the right direction to the link. I need to get the design passed by the wife before I go down that track (she pays the bills). Pete _________________________________________________________________ SEEK Salary Centre: What are you really worth? Find out. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseeklearning%2Ecom% 2Eau%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Acon%3Askl%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Acoursetafe&_t=76456566 1&_r=Seek_learning_AUG07_TAGlines&_m=EXT From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Sep 24 21:45:18 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:45:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Window winder bezel In-Reply-To: <005101c7fe22$6b35f570$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> Message-ID: Hi I recall that my earlier roadster (when they were used cars( 30 years ago )) had a white plastic bezel between the window winder and the door insert. I recall this, because it was such a pain to compress everything to get it out, ot to mention putting it back in. a) can anyone confirm this b) does anyone have two in reasonable condition c) I have only ONE of the clips necesary to hold the winder on ( which 'splains why the OP used some form of unregognisable adhesive to glue(???) it in. Anyone have one> Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >From: "Fergus OFarrell" >To: >Subject: [Roadsters] blinker switch activates hi-beams, opinions? >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:43:37 -0700 > >So, good friend Gary Wasserman sold me a used blinker switch for my 69 >2000, >which finally solved all my blinker woes. >The first time I drove it to work at oh-dark-thirty, I realized that using >the >blinkers, both directions, also turned on the hi-beams. So, since you know >this car, for me, is a "driver", not a resto-to-stock quest, what would be >the >best course of action: >A) wire to a separate toggle switch attached to bottom of dash? (unthread >the >wires from the stalk and install a radio shack toggle switch >(temp-off-constant type). If I was to do this, what minimum amp rating >should >that switch have? >B) is it just contacts to clean or something simple to check? >I would be fine with only the instantaneous hi-beam switch side working, as >I >don't have the occasion to drive with the high beams on for any amount of >time. >Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA >________________________________________ > >granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Sep 24 21:55:52 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:55:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 Blinking Sidemarker In-Reply-To: <005101c7fe22$6b35f570$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> Message-ID: In the interest of higher visibility ( viz the thread about brighter stop lights etc.) has anyone acheived blinking side markers. Initially, I thought it would be simple to include the side markers with the directionals, yet it would appear that the side markers only accept a regular bulb. Am I missing something, or is something needed to deliver intermittent power to the side lamps? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From alvingogi at hotmail.com Mon Sep 24 23:10:43 2007 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:10:43 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Francis' '67 SPL finished Message-ID: This is the ARII 1/32 " '67 Fairlady 200GT" kit. I built it to replicate a friend's 1967 Datsun 1600 roadster. The kit has major indentity crisis so it was tough to make a great replica of the 1:1. It has a grille from a 2000 and a dash from a 1500. The word "Datsun" is spelled "DatsAn" on the hood, door handles from a '68 plus some other oddities. FWIW the kit is fun to build and I would like to try the others in the lineup.Details I added: -windsheild center post. -Drilled holes in steering wheel spokes-Chrome side trim-Drilled holes in wheels!-Added chrome to windsheild, trunk lid and hood scoop-twin aluminum mufffler tips-red shift plate-roll bar-hand brake-Paint was hard to match, it's Ford LazerRedhttp://rides.webshots.com/album/560733236LVXyrt just needs a license plate!Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Capture your memories in an online journal! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From escanlon at wa-net.com Tue Sep 25 00:19:02 2007 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:19:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Window winder bezel References: Message-ID: <002001c7ff3b$f803cb20$0300a8c0@HPWIDESCREEN> Both Datsunparts.com and Fairladyparts.com (Page 150) carry those. They call them Door Escutcheons. Datsunparts.com (Part # 1300 4 Plastic pieces only $40 or #2100 including Springs $47). I couldn't find pricing for Fairladyparts, but they're bound to be comparable. E ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 Window winder bezel > Hi > I recall that my earlier roadster (when they were used cars( 30 years > ago )) > had a white plastic bezel between the window winder and the door insert. I > recall this, because it was such a pain to compress everything to get it > out, ot to mention putting it back in. > > a) can anyone confirm this > b) does anyone have two in reasonable condition > c) I have only ONE of the clips necesary to hold the winder on ( which > 'splains why the OP used some form of unregognisable adhesive to glue(???) > it in. Anyone have one> > > Peter > Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN > > > > >>From: "Fergus OFarrell" >>To: >>Subject: [Roadsters] blinker switch activates hi-beams, opinions? >>Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 13:43:37 -0700 >> >>So, good friend Gary Wasserman sold me a used blinker switch for my 69 >>2000, >>which finally solved all my blinker woes. >>The first time I drove it to work at oh-dark-thirty, I realized that using >>the >>blinkers, both directions, also turned on the hi-beams. So, since you know >>this car, for me, is a "driver", not a resto-to-stock quest, what would be >>the >>best course of action: >>A) wire to a separate toggle switch attached to bottom of dash? (unthread >>the >>wires from the stalk and install a radio shack toggle switch >>(temp-off-constant type). If I was to do this, what minimum amp rating >>should >>that switch have? >>B) is it just contacts to clean or something simple to check? >>I would be fine with only the instantaneous hi-beam switch side working, >>as >>I >>don't have the occasion to drive with the high beams on for any amount of >>time. >>Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA >>________________________________________ >> >>granvillecomputing at hotmail.com >> >>Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >>http://www.team.net/archive >> >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > > escanlon at wa-net.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From escanlon at wa-net.com Tue Sep 25 00:22:17 2007 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:22:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 Blinking Sidemarker References: Message-ID: <002501c7ff3c$6c8f74d0$0300a8c0@HPWIDESCREEN> Something I found on the internet (yeah, I know) claimed to achieve this by putting one wire to the blinker wire and one to the park lamp wire. Then the side marker would blink with the turn signal, but remain on when not. I've not tried this, nor have I really investigated it, but that's it in a nutshell. I'll see if I can find the link and re-post. E > In the interest of higher visibility ( viz the thread about brighter stop > lights etc.) has anyone acheived blinking side markers. > Initially, I thought it would be simple to include the side markers with > the > directionals, yet it would appear that the side markers only accept a > regular bulb. > Am I missing something, or is something needed to deliver intermittent > power > to the side lamps? From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Tue Sep 25 06:23:55 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:23:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Blinking side marker write-up Message-ID: <8AB7DFF4B7187C43B0C93FA2D55E5B8C09C1D546@xcgca210.northgrum.com> Peter, Try the 510 site, dimequarterly.com. Tech Section / Electrical / there is an article on blinking side marker lites. Fergus From tputland at charter.net Tue Sep 25 06:44:51 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 8:44:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Blinking side marker write-up In-Reply-To: <8AB7DFF4B7187C43B0C93FA2D55E5B8C09C1D546@xcgca210.northgrum.com> Message-ID: <20070925084451.8H9G9.101439.root@fepweb16> Interesting idea. I will look into doing this mod myself once (if ever) the body is done. Can any one send me that picture with legible text? I tried to enhance it on my computer, but still cannot make most of the words out. TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "O'Farrell wrote: > Peter, > Try the 510 site, dimequarterly.com. > Tech Section / Electrical / there is an article on blinking side marker > lites. > Fergus > ________________________________________ From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Tue Sep 25 06:51:01 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:51:01 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Paint Message-ID: Hey Pete - Don't know if one of my cars is the one you are referencing, but one of them is yellow with large black stripe down the middle. Try _http://www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.WyCROC.org) , click on THE GANG, scroll down to GARY LASATER and you'll see the car at the top with my red '63 Fairlady. Then scroll down to the '69 2000 (third car series down) and you'll see some more pictures. Get a lot of compliments and ooh's and aah's at car shows and driving around. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From tputland at charter.net Tue Sep 25 07:00:43 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 9:00:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Paint In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070925090043.NIPDJ.101847.root@fepweb16> That might have been Gary Tew's Roadster you were thinking about. His is bright yellow with two phat black stripes on it. Check it out here: http://members.cox.net/garytew/paint3.html Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- BARTERDUDE at aol.com wrote: > Hey Pete - > > Don't know if one of my cars is the one you are referencing, but one of them > is yellow with large black stripe down the middle. Try > _http://www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.WyCROC.org) , click on THE GANG, scroll down to GARY LASATER > and you'll see the car at the top with my red '63 Fairlady. Then scroll down > to the '69 2000 (third car series down) and you'll see some more pictures. > Get a lot of compliments and ooh's and aah's at car shows and driving around. > > > Gary Lasater - Parker CO > founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) > 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) > 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) > 1964 SPL310-01289 > 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) > 1970 SPL311-28169 > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > ________________________________________ From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Tue Sep 25 07:10:46 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:10:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 1600 Blinking Sidemarker In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46F908D6.9080707@hornesystemstx.com> If it turns out that the rewiring of the marker lights does not give you the operation you desire, please let me know. Adding a few relays should do the trick. I don't have time to look into it today, but should later in the week. Peace, Pat Thusly spake peter harrison: > In the interest of higher visibility ( viz the thread about brighter stop > lights etc.) has anyone acheived blinking side markers. > Initially, I thought it would be simple to include the side markers with the > directionals, yet it would appear that the side markers only accept a > regular bulb. > Am I missing something, or is something needed to deliver intermittent power > to the side lamps? > > Peter > Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN > ________________________________________ > > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From mark at dealermats.com Tue Sep 25 07:52:00 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:52:00 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Paint References: <20070925090043.NIPDJ.101847.root@fepweb16> Message-ID: <004801c7ff7b$41ce06f0$a64ec74b@toshibauser> Or it could be Charlie Breault's here: http://www.drone-club.com/files/charlie_breault.jpg ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paint > That might have been Gary Tew's Roadster you were thinking about. His is > bright yellow with two phat black stripes on it. > > Check it out here: > > http://members.cox.net/garytew/paint3.html From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Sep 25 08:09:40 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:09:40 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Paint References: <20070925090043.NIPDJ.101847.root@fepweb16> <004801c7ff7b$41ce06f0$a64ec74b@toshibauser> Message-ID: <00c801c7ff7d$c401ddc0$c021ffd8@hpcustomer> I never realized so many yellow roadster had black stipres. Makes me wonder why mine doesn't? Paul Ohio From jeremiahdbush at yahoo.com Tue Sep 25 08:21:18 2007 From: jeremiahdbush at yahoo.com (j bush) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Paint In-Reply-To: <004801c7ff7b$41ce06f0$a64ec74b@toshibauser> Message-ID: <162392.63768.qm@web51002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Is Charlie Breault a member of this list? Does anyone have any more pics of his car? It is a stunning car, but I think I have only seen two pics of it. Jeremiah '66 '67 '69 Mark Dent wrote: Or it could be Charlie Breault's here: http://www.drone-club.com/files/charlie_breault.jpg ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paint > That might have been Gary Tew's Roadster you were thinking about. His is > bright yellow with two phat black stripes on it. > > Check it out here: > > http://members.cox.net/garytew/paint3.html ________________________________________ jeremiahdbush at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. From vze2fhba at verizon.net Tue Sep 25 10:43:02 2007 From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (vze2fhba at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:43:02 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Paint Message-ID: <12191559.3749841190738582415.JavaMail.root@vms124.mailsrvcs.net> >From: j bush >Date: 2007/09/25 Tue AM 09:21:18 CDT >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paint >Is Charlie Breault a member of this list? Does anyone have any more pics of his car? It is a stunning car, but I think I have only seen two pics of it. > > Jeremiah > '66 > '67 > '69 > >Mark Dent wrote: > Or it could be Charlie Breault's here: > >http://www.drone-club.com/files/charlie_breault.jpg > How many would you like? Charlie B. 69 2000 former SCCA 66 411 2nd owner From vze2fhba at verizon.net Tue Sep 25 10:48:38 2007 From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (vze2fhba at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:48:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Paint Message-ID: <1662855.3752681190738918734.JavaMail.root@vms124.mailsrvcs.net> >From: tputland at charter.net >Date: 2007/09/25 Tue AM 08:00:43 CDT >To: BARTERDUDE at aol.com, dato1500 at hotmail.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Paint >That might have been Gary Tew's Roadster you were thinking about. His is bright yellow with two phat black stripes on it. > >Check it out here: > >http://members.cox.net/garytew/paint3.html > >Tim >Belleville, WI. >'70 SPL AND SRL >Still clueless but always learning Wow, Gary's car looks like a younger version of mine. Charlie B. From jklingman at stny.rr.com Tue Sep 25 10:55:34 2007 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:55:34 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Charlie' car Message-ID: <000f01c7ff94$e408c090$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Charlie, I have some new ones from the Glen to add to you collection. That yellow car sure takes a pretty picture, even prettier going down the road. Gloria and John Klingman '68 2000 From dato1500 at hotmail.com Tue Sep 25 17:24:22 2007 From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:24:22 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Paint In-Reply-To: <1662855.3752681190738918734.JavaMail.root@vms124.mailsrvcs.net> References: <1662855.3752681190738918734.JavaMail.root@vms124.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: Thanks for all the replies. it was Gary's car that I had seen photos of. The wife likes the idea and will let me go with it. Now I will have to try and get a finish like that in the black stripe. It's like looking in a mirror. Pete > > >That might have been Gary Tew's Roadster you were thinking about. His is bright yellow with two phat black stripes on it. > >> >Check it out here: > >> >http://members.cox.net/garytew/paint3.html _________________________________________________________________ Win Dad the Footy Final with Cadbury Favourites! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fbs%2Eserving%2Dsys%2Ecom%2FBu rstingPipe%2FadServer%2Ebs%3Fcn%3Dtf%26c%3D20%26mc%3Dclick%26pli%3D243221%26p i%3D0%26ord%3D%25%25RANDOM%25%25&_t=765445318&_r=hotmail_email_tagline_Aug07_ Cadburys&_m=EXT From fairlady66 at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 21:31:45 2007 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:31:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Mechanic Prank Message-ID: Hi List, This is too funny. I had to share it. http://www.compfused.com/directlink/1127/ ~Chris -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one. From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 25 21:37:22 2007 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 20:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Nov. 3rd, 2007 - Datsun Car Show in Houston, TX Message-ID: <677691.21968.qm@web81708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Z Club of Houston is putting on their 5th Annual Z Extravaganza at Sterling McCall Nissan in Houston on November 3rd, 2007. This is a Z/G car show open to all Nissans/Infinitis. What: Z Extravaganza V Car Show When: Saturday November 3rd, 2007 9AM-3PM Where: Sterling McCall Nissan 12230 Southwest Freeway (Highway 59) Stafford, TX 77477 1-866-569-4444 Pre-registration is $25 for ZCCA members, and $30 on site for ZCCA members. Registration will include a free t-shirt. You can mail your registration and payment to: Z Club of Houston PO Box 630176 Houston, TX 77263 or you can register by paypal to: treasurer at zclubofhouston.com if you paypal your registration, please include the information on the registration form. Here is a link to the form: [ [ http://www.photodump.org/stored17/ZC...tion3Nov07.pdf ] ] There will be classes for all the various Z years with trophies given out for Stock, Daily Driver, and Modified. There will also be an "Other" Class any other Nissans and Infinitis Lunch will be provided FREE by the dealership, and it is scheduled to be BBQ. There will be plenty of raffle prizes given out by the club and sponsors. We will be taking non-perishable food donations for the Houston Food Bank. Please bring at least one item with you for this good cause. Hotel Accomodation Info (for out of towners): Best Western Inn 281-575-6060 Courtyard Marriott 281-491-7700 La Quinta Inn 281-240-2300 After the show, there are tentative unofficial plans to head over to Otto's BBQ nearby for their weekly car meet. There is also likely to be some sort of night cruise. More details will be given at the car show. check out [ [ [ www.zclubofhouston.com ] ] ] for more details From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Sep 26 21:50:47 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:50:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Information and request In-Reply-To: <8AB7DFF4B7187C43B0C93FA2D55E5B8C09C1D546@xcgca210.northgrum.com> Message-ID: 1) for socal roadsters found a great place for stuff - fasterners, nuts etc. etc - they have stuff that almost prompts you to do something - and the prices are very reasonable luky's hardware 3814 w. burbank boulevard, (818) 845 8338 2. just had ipod/cd changer installed. This caused the passenger side vinyl insert to no longer fit. Don't want eo cut my original down, so need to fabricate a new insert. Looking for someplace that I can purchase black vinyl ( that will essentially match ) in the LA Area. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Sep 26 22:02:22 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:02:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Vent replacements - Installation tips In-Reply-To: <8AB7DFF4B7187C43B0C93FA2D55E5B8C09C1D546@xcgca210.northgrum.com> Message-ID: The oval vent gaskets on my car were trashed - helllo - so I bought some new ones from Dean. (quite reasonably priced in my opinion) Installiing them was another matter. Remember that Datsun only supplied these as a a complete unit. There is a residue of the former "gasket" sandwiched between the 'spindle' and the plate. I had nothing in my tool arsenal thin enough to clean it out. (again remember that this was an assembled part - they put the gasket on the plate and riveted it on) So, it wasn't working for me. I drilled out the rivets, tapped it with an 8-32 tap and re-assembled. Of course, since the stuff was available, I decided to paint it, so I possibly have the best lookig vents in the roadster universe (as if anyone is going to look) Overall, it takes less time to do this than to "clean' it out and try and fit the gasket on. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" >To: >Subject: [Roadsters] Blinking side marker write-up >Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:23:55 -0700 > >Peter, >Try the 510 site, dimequarterly.com. >Tech Section / Electrical / there is an article on blinking side marker >lites. >Fergus >________________________________________ > >granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Sep 26 22:31:15 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:31:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Front Bumper In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Someone up north of here ( Los Angeles ) had a neat split front bumper arrangement which I would like to emulate. I think all I need is a somewhat trashed front bumper (with good ends) that I can have cut and welded, ( possibly a trashed rear would work too if the dimensions are right) Anyone ?? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Sep 26 23:37:42 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:37:42 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Front Bumper In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think there are several out there now, but I would guess mine is probably the best known. http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/mine1b.jpg http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Images/mine3b.jpg I'd strongly recommend reinforcing the bumper brackets if you do this. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of peter harrison > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:31 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Cc: jjbreyer at hotmail.com > Subject: [Roadsters] Front Bumper > > > Someone up north of here ( Los Angeles ) had a neat split front bumper > arrangement which I would like to emulate. > I think all I need is a somewhat trashed front bumper (with good > ends) that > I can have cut and welded, ( possibly a trashed rear would work > too if the > dimensions are right) > > Anyone ?? > Peter > Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Sep 26 23:03:37 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:03:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Anodizing (So Cal) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Have all the aluminum bits for the doors (etc.) need somewhere to have them straightned ( a bit) and then re (somethinged) Any one have socal resource ?? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Sep 26 23:38:21 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:38:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Dinner - December 30 (Sunday) - So Cal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would like to host a holiday dinner at my house in van nuys (between xmas and the new year) I will provide all the meal fixings with a request for hors d'oeuvres and desserts. Any interest? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From Lindosojosss at aol.com Wed Sep 26 23:42:12 2007 From: Lindosojosss at aol.com (Lindosojosss at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:42:12 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Dinner - December 30 (Sunday) - So Cal Message-ID: How do I unsubscribe? (mailto:datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net) In a message dated 9/26/2007 10:39:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, granvillecomputing at hotmail.com writes: I would like to host a holiday dinner at my house in van nuys (between xmas and the new year) I will provide all the meal fixings with a request for hors d'oeuvres and desserts. Any interest? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN ________________________________________ lindosojosss at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From Keith0alan at aol.com Thu Sep 27 08:44:19 2007 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:44:19 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Information and request Message-ID: Luky's is one of the stops I make when I visit L.A. from Vegas. Them and Apex in Sun Valley are worth the trip. keith In a message dated 9/26/2007 8:51:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, granvillecomputing at hotmail.com writes: 1) for socal roadsters found a great place for stuff - fasterners, nuts etc. etc - they have stuff that almost prompts you to do something - and the prices are very reasonable luky's hardware 3814 w. burbank boulevard, (818) 845 8338 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Sep 27 09:10:15 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 08:10:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 68 Datsun Speedometer issues In-Reply-To: <7A4CF423-0115-1000-9FBA-9D100B36DB1C-Webmail-10019@mac.com> Message-ID: <001201c80118$85710a80$6401a8c0@xp> Here's a good place to start: Search the 311s.org forums on "speedo* pinion" (without the quotes and check the "Search for all terms" option) and you'll get several hits discussing this. ` ___ ' Pete - (O o) - ------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo---- Lake Forest Park, WA 1966 1600 SPL311 1966 L20B WPL411 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charles Kyle Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 8:18 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 68 Datsun Speedometer issues Here is a speedo issue that I am having, I wonder if it could be a trans pinion solution. for a 68 1600 in which I have put a 5-Speed tran which trans pinion should I have? How difficult is it to replace and where is the best place to get it (I am on the east coast)? What is occurring is that it reads approximately 10 miles faster then my actual speed. The odometer also calculates about the same. For instance today, after going 14 miles on a GPS the odo read 17.4. Chuck Hm 512-225-4501 From Lindosojosss at aol.com Thu Sep 27 09:37:30 2007 From: Lindosojosss at aol.com (Lindosojosss at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:37:30 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: Unsubscribe me please. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From johnwightman at shaw.ca Thu Sep 27 10:31:48 2007 From: johnwightman at shaw.ca (John Wightman) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:31:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004101c80123$e71ade40$647ba8c0@cobaltconsulting.ca> Ok, PRESTO!!! You're unsubscribed. ok, maybe not - maybe you have to DO IT YOURSELF...! try the link at the bottom of EVERY list email for a clue... sheesh. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lindosojosss at aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:38 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) Unsubscribe me please. From sales at foilgraphics.com Thu Sep 27 10:45:58 2007 From: sales at foilgraphics.com (Guy) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:45:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) References: <004101c80123$e71ade40$647ba8c0@cobaltconsulting.ca> Message-ID: <003801c80125$e1fe8270$6e01a8c0@sales2006> Patience, patience...take 3 deep breaths...now breath out. It will get better...maybe. Maybe not? Guy Phx, AZ 67.5 stroker ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wightman" To: Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) > Ok, PRESTO!!! You're unsubscribed. > > ok, maybe not - maybe you have to DO IT YOURSELF...! > > try the link at the bottom of EVERY list email for a clue... sheesh. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+johnwightman=shaw.ca at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Lindosojosss at aol.com > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:38 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (no subject) > > Unsubscribe me please. > ________________________________________ > > sales at foilgraphics.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Thu Sep 27 11:10:15 2007 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:10:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? Message-ID: To choke or not to choke, that is the question. Once and for all I'm trying to figure out the best way to start off without fouling the plugs or causing gasket problems due to metal components warming up (and therefore expanding) at different rates. I've always choked it as little as possible, for the least amount of time as possible. If it's warm out then that's not too much of a problem. When it's colder out it becomes more of an issue. The hand throttle really helps with this. I try not to take off until I see a bump on the temp gauge. For point of reference this is a low mile, stock, non-smog 2000 that runs great. Suggestions? Greg SRL31100494 "Roadstering since '75" From tom at datsun2000.com Thu Sep 27 11:23:59 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:23:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Keith Williams looked at my carbs in Shasta and set the mixture while the engine was running at 2000 RPM for the high speed balance rather than at idle. The logic behind his choice of where to set the mixture was that we run the engines closer to 2000 RPM than we do at idle. Up until then Mr. Hyde had a serious plug fouling problem, but since that minor change in the setup procedure I have not experienced any plug fouling and Mr. Hyde is still very responsive. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:10 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? To choke or not to choke, that is the question. Once and for all I'm trying to figure out the best way to start off without fouling the plugs or causing gasket problems due to metal components warming up (and therefore expanding) at different rates. I've always choked it as little as possible, for the least amount of time as possible. If it's warm out then that's not too much of a problem. When it's colder out it becomes more of an issue. The hand throttle really helps with this. I try not to take off until I see a bump on the temp gauge. For point of reference this is a low mile, stock, non-smog 2000 that runs great. Suggestions? Greg SRL31100494 "Roadstering since '75" ________________________________________ From James at jdfogg.com Thu Sep 27 11:33:21 2007 From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:33:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A25704C@sbs.jdfogg.com> > To choke or not to choke, that is the question. > > Once and for all I'm trying to figure out the best way to > start off without fouling the plugs or causing gasket > problems due to metal components warming up (and therefore > expanding) at different rates. You don't have much control over, or contribution to, expansion. The only thing you can do wrong is run too lean, which will cause a higher cylinder temp. I use full choke for cold starts and I open the choke slowly until the engine starts to stumble (too lean) and then close it up a bit. I test the choke setting a few times while it warms up. If you're really worried about a too-fast warm-up then you want to be a bit generous with the choke. Plugs are cheap and the kind of fouling they experience with choking will burn off after a bit of driving. True fouling is best done by oil contamination (worn rings, or worse). If you open the choke fully as soon as it's running and use the throttle to keep it running you are running lean (hot). The choke isn't an on/off proposition. It's a variable setting that will get closer to full open as the engine warms. > I've always choked it as little as possible, for the least > amount of time as possible. If it's warm out then that's not > too much of a problem. When it's colder out it becomes more > of an issue. The hand throttle really helps with this. I try > not to take off until I see a bump on the temp gauge. That's a good policy. From mark at dealermats.com Thu Sep 27 13:20:15 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:20:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? References: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A25704C@sbs.jdfogg.com> Message-ID: <000601c8013b$714366c0$1b49d346@toshibauser> Opening the choke does not lean out the mixture, it richens it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Fogg" To: Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? >> To choke or not to choke, that is the question. > > If you open the choke fully as soon as it's running and use the throttle > to keep it running you are running lean (hot). From James at jdfogg.com Thu Sep 27 14:02:25 2007 From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:02:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A25704F@sbs.jdfogg.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Dent [mailto:mark at dealermats.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 3:20 PM > To: James Fogg; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? > > Opening the choke does not lean out the mixture, it richens it. I'm not sure how you figure this. From the perspective of the butterfly valve, pulling on the choke handle closes the valve. Pushing the choke handle toward the dash opens the butterfly valve. When the valve is closed the fuel ratio is enriched because of greater vacuum in the venturi. Since air is easier to "pull" than fuel and the carburetor is set up for a certain balance of air/fuel, if you block the air entry (close the choke) you change the balance of fuel to air. Everything I've been taught says you enrich the air/fuel mixture to start a cold engine. From sandhoff at csus.edu Thu Sep 27 14:11:04 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:11:04 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Choking [was: How to warm up a Roadster?] In-Reply-To: <000601c8013b$714366c0$1b49d346@toshibauser> Message-ID: <46FBABE8.28901.C063F4@localhost> > Opening the choke does not lean out the mixture, it richens it. > If you open the choke fully as soon as it's running and use the throttle > to keep it running you are running lean (hot). SU or Solex? :-) The SU does not have a choke in the normal sense. The knob we tug on is really a 'fuel enrichment' knob. In reality, nothing opens or closes. On a 'standard' carb such as a Solex, there's a physical air restrictor plate that reduces the air admitted. Same fuel, less air = richer mixture. "Closing" the choke richens the mixture by suffocating air flow. On an SU, pulling the "choke" knob drops the needle seat, effectively opening the needle opening, increasing fuel flow. Air flow remains the same. Don't know if any of this helps the discussion... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Sep 27 14:13:53 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:13:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? References: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A25704F@sbs.jdfogg.com> Message-ID: <010b01c80142$f046cbe0$a321ffd8@hpcustomer> Did everybody forget that roadsters with SUs do NOT have real 'chokes'. Pulling the choke handle only lowers the needle seat making a bigger opening for fuel to the venturi, richening the mixture. Paul Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: James Fogg To: Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Dent [mailto:mark at dealermats.com] > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 3:20 PM > > To: James Fogg; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? > > > > Opening the choke does not lean out the mixture, it richens it. > > > I'm not sure how you figure this. From the perspective of the butterfly > valve, pulling on the choke handle closes the valve. Pushing the choke > handle toward the dash opens the butterfly valve. When the valve is > closed the fuel ratio is enriched because of greater vacuum in the > venturi. Since air is easier to "pull" than fuel and the carburetor is > set up for a certain balance of air/fuel, if you block the air entry > (close the choke) you change the balance of fuel to air. > > Everything I've been taught says you enrich the air/fuel mixture to > start a cold engine. > ________________________________________ > > 9laser3 at bright.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu Sep 27 14:41:15 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? In-Reply-To: <010b01c80142$f046cbe0$a321ffd8@hpcustomer> Message-ID: <917384.90555.qm@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Technically it is not a choke, as it does not physically restrict airflow to produce a richer mixture, but functionally it does the same thing, just bass-ackwards because of the way these weird ol' carbs work! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: Did everybody forget that roadsters with SUs do NOT have real 'chokes'. Pulling the choke handle only lowers the needle seat making a bigger opening for fuel to the venturi, richening the mixture. Paul Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: James Fogg To: Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Dent [mailto:mark at dealermats.com] > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 3:20 PM > > To: James Fogg; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? > > > > Opening the choke does not lean out the mixture, it richens it. > > > I'm not sure how you figure this. From the perspective of the butterfly > valve, pulling on the choke handle closes the valve. Pushing the choke > handle toward the dash opens the butterfly valve. When the valve is > closed the fuel ratio is enriched because of greater vacuum in the > venturi. Since air is easier to "pull" than fuel and the carburetor is > set up for a certain balance of air/fuel, if you block the air entry > (close the choke) you change the balance of fuel to air. > > Everything I've been taught says you enrich the air/fuel mixture to > start a cold engine. > ________________________________________ > > 9laser3 at bright.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From alvingogi at hotmail.com Thu Sep 27 15:29:14 2007 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:29:14 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? In-Reply-To: <917384.90555.qm@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <010b01c80142$f046cbe0$a321ffd8@hpcustomer> <917384.90555.qm@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Choke this, pull that, turn this, push that...I actually kept the hand throttle and choke knobs in the dash because they look cool! Do they work, hell no! Just turn the key and go :) SCREW that... http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2559036190101854788CqcEEYAlvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:41:15 -0700> From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> To: 9laser3 at bright.net; James at jdfogg.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster?> > Technically it is not a choke, as it does not physically restrict airflow to produce a richer mixture, but functionally it does the same thing, just bass-ackwards because of the way these weird ol' carbs work!> > Gary McCormick> San Jose, CA> '70 2000 SRL311-13291> > Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: Did everybody forget that roadsters with SUs do NOT have real 'chokes'.> Pulling the choke handle only lowers the needle seat making a bigger opening> for fuel to the venturi, richening the mixture.> > Paul> Ohio> > ----- Original Message -----> From: James Fogg > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:02 PM> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster?> > > > > -----Original Message-----> > > From: Mark Dent [mailto:mark at dealermats.com]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 3:20 PM> > > To: James Fogg; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster?> > >> > > Opening the choke does not lean out the mixture, it richens it.> >> >> > I'm not sure how you figure this. From the perspective of the butterfly> > valve, pulling on the choke handle closes the valve. Pushing the choke> > handle toward the dash opens the butterfly valve. When the valve is> > closed the fuel ratio is enriched because of greater vacuum in the> > venturi. Since air is easier to "pull" than fuel and the carburetor is> > set up for a certain balance of air/fuel, if you block the air entry> > (close the choke) you change the balance of fuel to air.> >> > Everything I've been taught says you enrich the air/fuel mixture to> > start a cold engine.> > ________________________________________> >> > 9laser3 at bright.net> >> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> > gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> > alvingogi at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE From lars.tungen at abaris.no Thu Sep 27 16:23:17 2007 From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:23:17 +0200 Subject: [Roadsters] New web address for the Online Datsun Fairlady Parts Catalog Message-ID: <002201c80155$010ebc50$7864640a@ABARIS.LOCAL> The online fairlady parts catalog has moved to a new address: http://datsun311parts.tungen.net All part numbers and figures from the old microfiche should be there. I addition you will find new part numbers from Nissan where these are still listed in the Nissan system. The quantity column (qty) is mostly set to 1, which is plain wrong in many cases. Getting these right is a manual process that will take some weeks to finish. Also, the search engine needs some tuning that I hope will improve with time. I also have a list of the parts that are definitely NLA from Nissan. and will add this info to the part listings at a later stage. But, of course a lot of the parts still listed by Nissan are also NLA. Working on making the figures above the part listings bigger. It will take some time to get them all done. But when you se a small thumbnail sized figure you can always click on it to make it bigger or to drill down to the part listings. I have many ideas on what I might add later. The 310 parts should definitely have been there. Maybe even the H20 engine also. An automatic VIN# and part number decoder would be nice. The list is endless.... Also working on part catalogs for other classic Datsuns, like the 510, C30, S30, S130, 520 & 521, 411 and many more. My ultimate goal is to able to follow part numbers across models, years and regions, but that will require a lot of part numbers and figures/diagrams to realize. In the mean time I hope you will find it useful, and if you find any errors, please let me know. Thanks. -- Lars Tungen Norway SPL311-09900 SRL311-12362 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1032 - Release Date: 26.09.2007 20:20 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Sep 27 16:35:32 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:35:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004601c80156$b9c5c3a0$6401a8c0@xp> Oh, you fuel injected snobs! Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of alvin gogineni Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:29 PM To: Gary McCormick; Paul; James Fogg; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? Choke this, pull that, turn this, push that...I actually kept the hand throttle and choke knobs in the dash because they look cool! Do they work, hell no! Just turn the key and go :) SCREW that... Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 From mark at dealermats.com Thu Sep 27 18:37:07 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:37:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? References: <004601c80156$b9c5c3a0$6401a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <001b01c80167$b3317000$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Since everyone likes to correct me, lets look at the original post where it said And the post I was replying to that said: Which I read as, if you pull the choke knob out, it will be running lean, which is when I said On the above referenced car (a stock SU Datsun Roadster) pulling the choke knob will not lean out the mixture, it will richen it up, so I stand by my original statement Mark From tminerpcav at aol.com Thu Sep 27 18:59:11 2007 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:59:11 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Ace-It @ JCCS car show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C9CF81EA907788-9AC-7894@FWM-D19.sysops.aol.com> To all attending, I'll be bringing up?some 16 oz.?bottles of the Ace-It (pink stuff) wax to the JCCS show for anyone who needs some.? Let me know in advance if you want a bottle reserved,?as I sold out early last year. I've got an order?"on the road", but I'm not sure if it will come in time. Tim Miner 949-510-4434 ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Thu Sep 27 19:21:04 2007 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:21:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] How to warm up a Roadster? In-Reply-To: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A25704C@sbs.jdfogg.com> Message-ID: <563201.6543.qm@web51111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> My Dad is 85. He has owned cars since he had a Model T when he was 16. He was a mechanic and apprentice machinest before he left high school. He and his buddies built a racer with his buddies from a model A and they ran it for speed on the desert outside LA. After a time in the USAF during WW2 he was, among other jobs the chief engineer in the Thompson Products Engine Parts development lab. You know them today as TRW. He was chief engineer at Purolater Filters back when they were huge. He told me many years ago, the best way to warm up a car is to drive it. He said an engine doesn't benefit from being warmed up once the oil pressure is up, just don't get on it hard. He has gotten huge miles from cars. Even back in the 60's, he didn't expect to open an engine before 100,000 miles, and he never did. His best, 240,000 on a 1969 Volvo without opening the engine.I had it the last 60,000. We have no idea how long it went after that, we sold it. All he did was take it easy when cold and change the oil every 3,000 miles. I think he knows engines. He helped me rebuild my first Datsun. JimG James Fogg wrote: > To choke or not to choke, that is the question. > > Once and for all I'm trying to figure out the best way to > start off without fouling the plugs or causing gasket > problems due to metal components warming up (and therefore > expanding) at different rates. You don't have much control over, or contribution to, expansion. The only thing you can do wrong is run too lean, which will cause a higher cylinder temp. I use full choke for cold starts and I open the choke slowly until the engine starts to stumble (too lean) and then close it up a bit. I test the choke setting a few times while it warms up. If you're really worried about a too-fast warm-up then you want to be a bit generous with the choke. Plugs are cheap and the kind of fouling they experience with choking will burn off after a bit of driving. True fouling is best done by oil contamination (worn rings, or worse). If you open the choke fully as soon as it's running and use the throttle to keep it running you are running lean (hot). The choke isn't an on/off proposition. It's a variable setting that will get closer to full open as the engine warms. > I've always choked it as little as possible, for the least > amount of time as possible. If it's warm out then that's not > too much of a problem. When it's colder out it becomes more > of an issue. The hand throttle really helps with this. I try > not to take off until I see a bump on the temp gauge. That's a good policy. ________________________________________ gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roadstergb at aol.com Fri Sep 28 03:24:31 2007 From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 05:24:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 1600 fenders Message-ID: <8C9CFC8826C617B-DCC-86B8@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> Hi all I've just bought a late (1967) right hand drive?1600 already registered in the UK - nice car in white - needs a few bits (don't they all?) but it's in great shape and needed a good home.?? I've only ever owned/seen a couple of 1965 1600s in the UK so there are some detail differences I was expecting between?these and the later car.?However, it has the wider fenders and the late badges (DATSUN above the strip and 1600 below) which are exactly the same as my old 1969 car. I thought these must have been?replacements, but I've seen a few images of cars with the same fenders and coincidentally the?car on the?'The Cars That Ate Paris' movie I uploaded a few weeks ago is the same spec also.???? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJa6GXpsU7o So my question is, what was correct for this model year? Or are they both correct? Thanks in advance. Rob ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Sep 28 03:30:39 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:30:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Hood Muffling Material In-Reply-To: <8C9CFC8826C617B-DCC-86B8@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Thinking of putting some muffling/baffling material under the hood to quieten things down a bit. Are there any known concerns re engine compartment temperature? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From fairlady at bigpond.com Fri Sep 28 03:35:40 2007 From: fairlady at bigpond.com (Phill Brook) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:35:40 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 1600 fenders In-Reply-To: <8C9CFC8826C617B-DCC-86B8@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C9CFC8826C617B-DCC-86B8@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <3123E37D-5764-48DE-8CF0-E4052323845C@bigpond.com> Rob, This sounds like a 67.5 car so the badge arrangement should be exactly the same as the low screen 2000. Off hand I can't remember what flare is correct for the front guards. I know on high screen cars the 1600s and 2000s have different flares. Phill B On 28/09/2007, at 7:24 PM, roadstergb at aol.com wrote: > Hi all > > I've just bought a late (1967) right hand drive?1600 already > registered in the UK - nice car in white - needs a few bits (don't > they all?) but it's in great shape and needed a good home.?? > > I've only ever owned/seen a couple of 1965 1600s in the UK so there > are some detail differences I was expecting between?these and the > later car.?However, it has the wider fenders and the late badges > (DATSUN above the strip and 1600 below) which are exactly the same > as my old 1969 car. > > I thought these must have been?replacements, but I've seen a few > images of cars with the same fenders and coincidentally the?car on > the?'The Cars That Ate Paris' movie I uploaded a few weeks ago is > the same spec also.???? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJa6GXpsU7o > > So my question is, what was correct for this model year? Or are > they both correct? > > Thanks in advance. > > Rob > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share > and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music > Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http:// > info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. > ________________________________________ > > fairlady at bigpond.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Sep 28 04:49:09 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 03:49:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Phoenix in November In-Reply-To: <8C9CFC8826C617B-DCC-86B8@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Going to PHX November 9th - 16th. Hopefully driving Eliza - spending a fortune to get a decent sound system for the trip. Any roadster-olics in the Phoenix Tempe Scottsdale willing to meet for breakfast or something. The weekend is booked, but the rest is open. LMK Peter 1970 Eliza SPL311 TOAD SAN From sprague at jandmcontractors.com Fri Sep 28 05:28:34 2007 From: sprague at jandmcontractors.com (Leonard Sprague) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:28:34 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] leaky wheel cylinder Message-ID: <46FCE562.8020506@jandmcontractors.com> Can anyone tell me where I can find a rebuild kit for a leaky right wheel cylinder, or a replacement. Thanks in advance. Lenny Sprague SPL311-25453-VG30 http://www.lennyandjulie.com/photos/main.php/f/roadsters -- Leonard Sprague President, J and M Contractors (352) 262-4788 www.JandMContractors.com From CBrucciani at archinsurance.com Fri Sep 28 06:51:56 2007 From: CBrucciani at archinsurance.com (Brucciani, Chris) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:51:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Seat belts needed for a 1973 240Z Message-ID: The tensioner gave out on my drivers side seat belt. Does anyone happen to have a replacement that they would part with? Chris Brucciani Marietta, GA 1973 240Z 1995 Miata 1998 BMW 540i6 -------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and confidential information and is intended only for the use of the individual and/or entity identified in the alias address of this message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby requested not to distribute or copy this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and delete the original message from your system. From roadstergb at aol.com Fri Sep 28 08:24:26 2007 From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:24:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1967 1600 fenders - bits needed In-Reply-To: <3123E37D-5764-48DE-8CF0-E4052323845C@bigpond.com> References: <8C9CFC8826C617B-DCC-86B8@webmail-db07.sysops.aol.com> <3123E37D-5764-48DE-8CF0-E4052323845C@bigpond.com> Message-ID: <8C9CFF26874405C-9E4-9499@FWM-D26.sysops.aol.com> Many thanks Phill and Ross - it has the dual master cylinders?so all is good. ? I'm looking for a few bits -?a front top latch (the chrome latch?attached to the top), another pair of these for the hardtop, and the central windshield bar. It also needs a set of body strips (these cost an arm an a leg I know ...). The seats have been re-upholstered in cloth,?and I would be interested to hear if any seat covers are available. Any help appreciated. Rob? -----Original Message----- From: Phill Brook To: roadstergb at aol.com CC: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10.35am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1967 1600 fenders Rob,? This sounds like a 67.5 car so the badge arrangement should be exactly the same as the low screen 2000. Off hand I can't remember what flare is correct for the front guards. I know on high screen cars the 1600s and 2000s have different flares.? ? Phill B? ? On 28/09/2007, at 7:24 PM, roadstergb at aol.com wrote:? ? > Hi all? >? > I've just bought a late (1967) right hand drive?1600 already > registered in the UK - nice car in white - needs a few bits (don't > they all?) but it's in great shape and needed a good home.??? >? > I've only ever owned/seen a couple of 1965 1600s in the UK so there > are some detail differences I was expecting between?these and the > later car.?However, it has the wider fenders and the late badges > (DATSUN above the strip and 1600 below) which are exactly the same > as my old 1969 car.? >? > I thought these must have been?replacements, but I've seen a few > images of cars with the same fenders and coincidentally the?car on > the?'The Cars That Ate Paris' movie I uploaded a few weeks ago is > the same spec also.????? >? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJa6GXpsU7o? >? > So my question is, what was correct for this model year? Or are > they both correct?? >? > Thanks in advance.? >? > Rob? > ______________________________________________________________________> __? > Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share > and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music > Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://> info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548.? > ________________________________________? >? > fairlady at bigpond.com? >? > Datsun-roadsters mailing list? >? > http://www.team.net/archive? >? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ? ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Sep 28 10:44:40 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:44:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Donut In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Is there a space saving donut that will work with a 1970 SPL311? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From RWM at RWMann.com Fri Sep 28 11:05:17 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 13:05:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Donut In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46FD344D.4030706@RWMann.com> Space saver spare from a late 80's/early 80's 280ZX works; finding an inflator bottle is problematic. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex peter harrison wrote: >Is there a space saving donut that will work with a 1970 SPL311? > >Peter >Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Sep 28 13:45:26 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:45:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] leaky wheel cylinder In-Reply-To: <46FCE562.8020506@jandmcontractors.com> Message-ID: <003301c80208$212d7400$6401a8c0@xp> >From the Parts Interchange page on 311s.org: "NAPA, rear wheel cylinder rebuild kit part # UP1065 - this is for the 3/4" wheel cylinders if yours are not in bad shape and basically only need new rubber parts." Not sure about rebuild kits, but whole cylinders are available from the vendors. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Leonard Sprague Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 4:29 AM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] leaky wheel cylinder Can anyone tell me where I can find a rebuild kit for a leaky right wheel cylinder, or a replacement. Thanks in advance. Lenny Sprague SPL311-25453-VG30 http://www.lennyandjulie.com/photos/main.php/f/roadsters -- Leonard Sprague President, J and M Contractors (352) 262-4788 www.JandMContractors.com ________________________________________ ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mtyler at hctc.net Fri Sep 28 18:49:12 2007 From: mtyler at hctc.net (Marc&Heidi) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:49:12 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Donut In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I heard about MGBs using Saab 900/9000 donuts. Bolt spacing is the same, question is whether the hole is big enough for the front hub. -Marc On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:44 AM, peter harrison wrote: > Is there a space saving donut that will work with a 1970 SPL311? > > Peter > Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN =============================================== Marc Tyler Sisterdale TX 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/datsun_homepage.html From aultgc at jorsm.com Fri Sep 28 19:29:25 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:29:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Seat belts needed for a 1973 240Z References: Message-ID: <007e01c80238$2ca95c60$0da0aa42@gaxp1> I thought this was a roadster site. They don't have tensioners on the belts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brucciani, Chris" To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: [Roadsters] OT - Seat belts needed for a 1973 240Z > The tensioner gave out on my drivers side seat belt. Does anyone happen > to have a replacement that they would part with? > > Chris Brucciani > Marietta, GA > 1973 240Z > 1995 Miata > 1998 BMW 540i6 > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and > confidential information and is intended only for the use of the > individual > and/or entity identified in the alias address of this message. If the > reader > of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent > responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby > requested > not to distribute or copy this communication. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or > return > e-mail and delete the original message from your system. > ________________________________________ > > aultgc at jorsm.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Sep 28 19:53:33 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:53:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Donut In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c8023b$8e287040$6401a8c0@xp> >From a thread on the 311s.org forums: ----------------------------------------------------------- So, I broadened my JY search & found that the "donut" from the first generation Saab 900 (1979-1987) works like a charm. It is thin and of a smaller diameter than the stock steel wheel + tire. The only caveat is that it did rub a little on the brake pad keeper bracket on one side of my car. Those keepers stick out so much; the one on my passenger front rubs on just about every rim I bring near my car. So, worst case, if you have a flat in the front & find rubbing, swap a healthy wheel/tire from the back and put the donut in its place. I don't know if this merits entry into the "interchange" list on the main site, but I figured it would be worth sharing. Here are some pics: I'm psyched to get photo numbers 310 & 311! ----------------------------------------------------------- Complete thread at: Ciao. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marc&Heidi Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 5:49 PM To: peter harrison Cc: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Donut I heard about MGBs using Saab 900/9000 donuts. Bolt spacing is the same, question is whether the hole is big enough for the front hub. -Marc On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:44 AM, peter harrison wrote: > Is there a space saving donut that will work with a 1970 SPL311? > > Peter > Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN =============================================== Marc Tyler Sisterdale TX 1970 1600 #SPL311-31016 1965 L-320 #L320 013642 http://datsun_marc.tripod.com/cgi-bin/datsun_homepage.html Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Sep 28 23:11:58 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:11:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a continuation of my trip to PHX. I will make sure the heater works!!! Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else that I should take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). Don't suspect they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc. Thanks Peter Eliza 1970 SPL TOAD SAN. From brianrreynolds at yahoo.com Sat Sep 29 08:16:59 2007 From: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com (Brian Reynolds) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:16:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <59617.35628.qm@web62415.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I don't know whether you have the stock seats or Miata seats in your Roadster. I have the original seats in my '69, and if I'm planning to drive for more than a couple of hours I take a full-sized pillow to stick under my rear! Good luck with your trip. -Brian Reynolds Toronto --- peter harrison wrote: > I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a > continuation of my trip to PHX. > I will make sure the heater works!!! > Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else that I > should > take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). Don't > suspect > they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc. > > Thanks > > Peter > Eliza 1970 SPL TOAD SAN. > ________________________________________ > > brianrreynolds at yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > Get news delivered with the All new Yahoo! Mail. Enjoy RSS feeds right on your Mail page. Start today at http://mrd.mail.yahoo.com/try_beta?.intl=ca From fj201 at cox.net Sat Sep 29 08:47:08 2007 From: fj201 at cox.net (Ron Hamilton) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:47:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip In-Reply-To: <59617.35628.qm@web62415.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <59617.35628.qm@web62415.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46FE656C.2070006@cox.net> Brian Reynolds wrote: AAA or a similar service has saved me many times and dollars in my roadster travels. The plus part of the service adds extra tow miles which is invaluable when you are 100 miles from nowhere. Think of it like a full set of tools that you carry, then you will never need it. Ron > I don't know whether you have the stock seats or Miata seats in your > Roadster. I have the original seats in my '69, and if I'm planning to > drive for more than a couple of hours I take a full-sized pillow to stick > under my rear! Good luck with your trip. > > -Brian Reynolds > Toronto > > > > --- peter harrison wrote: > > >> I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a >> continuation of my trip to PHX. >> I will make sure the heater works!!! >> Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else that I >> should >> take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). Don't >> suspect >> they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc. >> >> Thanks From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Sat Sep 29 08:54:10 2007 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:54:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi peter, i dont know if you would need a spare head gask., but i would take a spare clutch slave cyl. or kit, and a kit for the cl.master cyl.. also, an extra fuel pump, or kit, or rig up an electric pump to work. if your distributor is electronic, take a used set of points and cond. to change back, if necessary. extra oil, and a gal. of water might come in handy. if you have an extra alternater, and /or volt reg., throw it in too. i know, you didnt want to have to pull a trailer, too, or have a chase car follow you. i guess its my old boy scout training. bob> From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:11:58 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip> > I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a > continuation of my trip to PHX.> I will make sure the heater works!!!> Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else that I should > take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). Don't suspect > they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc.> > Thanks> > Peter> Eliza 1970 SPL TOAD SAN.> ________________________________________> > rksmith46 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Sat Sep 29 11:18:35 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:18:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46FE88EB.4070201@hornesystemstx.com> Peter, First and foremost, a cell phone should be on the list. A list of "\Roadster friendly" folks along the way. We put one of these together about a decade ago, including what "services" and spare parts/expertise were available. I'd carry water, and oil, and a list of the spare parts that are at home where someone can find them and overnight to you if needed. I bought my second Roadster over the internet and flew from Austin Texas to Los Angeles to pick it up and drive it home. I had to stop at one point and replace the head gasket, but that was all I needed. I figured that the closer to Austin I got the less it would cost me to have it shipped. We drove in without any other problem. Please let the list know when and by what route you plan on traveling so we can possibly meet up with you for a meal or something. Peace, Pat Thusly spake peter harrison: > I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a > continuation of my trip to PHX. > I will make sure the heater works!!! > Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else that I should > take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). Don't suspect > they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc. > > Thanks > > Peter > Eliza 1970 SPL TOAD SAN. > ________________________________________ > > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Sep 29 14:32:34 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:32:34 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C9D0EF0093D369-F20-2B8C@webmail-me03.sysops.aol.com> Don't forget about duct tape, electrical tape. I'd bring a spare alternator unless you have the GM, fuel floats. Basically any item you don't want to be waiting for the UPS guy to deliver. Also Hagherty insurance has a tow option if you have that insurance so you could use it with AAA if you had to. The usual tools plus a voltmeter. Make sure all you clothes coordinate, there's not going to be much room left! Get a list of Roadster buddies along the way who could rescue you if needed, or perhaps be a B &B for you Sounds like fun but the weather could be a challenge. Linda -----Original Message----- From: robert k. smith To: peter harrison ; roadster list Sent: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 7:54 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] X-country trip hi peter, i dont know if you would need a spare head gask., but i would take a spare clutch slave cyl. or kit, and a kit for the cl.master cyl.. also, an extra fuel pump, or kit, or rig up an electric pump to work. if your distributor is electronic, take a used set of points and cond. to change back, if necessary. extra oil, and a gal. of water might come in handy. if you have an extra alternater, and /or volt reg., throw it in too. i know, you didnt want to have to pull a trailer, too, or have a chase car follow you. i guess its my old boy scout training. bob> From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 22:11:58 -0700> Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip> > I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a > continuation of my trip to PHX.> I will make sure the heater works!!!> Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else that I should > take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). Don't suspect > they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc.> > Thanks> > Peter> Eliza 1970 SPL TOAD SAN.> ________________________________________> > rksmith46 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From mikep at bikeswap.com Sat Sep 29 16:00:46 2007 From: mikep at bikeswap.com (Mikep) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:00:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FREE - Soon to be Scrap Early '67 Frame and Body Shell in WA Message-ID: I still have this car but I need to see it gone before the snow and or rain starts here in Spokane and I am forced to reduce it to smaller pieces so that I can access my garage. I am keeping the car as complete as possible so as to make it worthwhile for somebody to haul away but I will strip it soon and cut the remainder up for scrap. I will gladly give it away to avoid it going to the crusher. Send me an email or call 509-209-3452 and we can make arrangements for adoption. I have the car listed with pictures on Craigs List in Spokane Wa. at: http://spokane.craigslist.org/car/435664523.html thanks mike From todd.osborn at sbcglobal.net Sat Sep 29 16:52:38 2007 From: todd.osborn at sbcglobal.net (Todd Osborn) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:52:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Choking [was: How to warm up a Roadster?] In-Reply-To: <46FBABE8.28901.C063F4@localhost> Message-ID: <000001c802eb$6ffdc010$56716b45@HAL5000> John F Sandhoff wrote: ...On a 'standard' carb such as a Solex, there's a physical air restrictor plate that reduces the air admitted. Same fuel, less air = richer mixture. "Closing" the choke richens the mixture by suffocating air flow... Since when are Solex carbs considered standard (ahem!). Turns out the Mikuni/Solex carbs don't use a butterfly valve to "choke" the air flow. They use a fuel enrichment circuit similar to the Weber (or maybe it's the other way around). Applying the choke rotates the starter disk that applies vacuum to the starter circuit, pulling fuel from the float bowl through the starter jet, then emulsifying it with air and then releasing it through a port on the engine side of the throttle valves. Note the very early Solex PHH carbs (old Alfas and Mercedes 180SLs) did have a conventional choke valve, but these are really a staged two barrel carbs with a primary and secondary throat and have almost nothing in common with the Mikuni/Solex 44PHH design. In my climate I have found that the accel pumps on the Solex are large enough that one never needs to use the "choke". Todd Osborn DATSFUN San Jose, CA From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Sun Sep 30 22:41:56 2007 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:41:56 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip Message-ID: <9684460.1191213717170.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Don't forget the fan belts and good luck. I have made that trip myself, fan belt broke 100 miles before my destination, fortunately I had the spare. Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: peter harrison >Sent: Sep 28, 2007 11:11 PM >To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip > >I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a >continuation of my trip to PHX. >I will make sure the heater works!!! >Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else that I should >take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). Don't suspect >they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc. > >Thanks > >Peter >Eliza 1970 SPL TOAD SAN. >________________________________________ > >hahlbohmd at earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters