From tputland at charter.net Mon Oct 1 09:28:14 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 8:28:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Yesterday was a great day for a drive! Message-ID: <20071001112814.EPTJP.97257.root@fepweb01> HI all. Since someone on the list encouraged me to keep posting progress reports I thought I would share yesterday's fun. Connie and I took the 1600 out for drive yesterday. Mid 70's and partly cloudy with no rain in the area (yesterday any way--rain very heavy right now). Had a couple Imperial IPAs at the Grumpy Troll brew pub in Mt. Horeb, WI. Schooled my wife in dominoes yet again. Then home to grilled Venison Loin and baked Acorn squash. Was a great day in all. I took Hwy 92 to Mt. Horeb--the road I was having fun on summer '06 when I blew a head gasket. This road has some twists and turns and hills and is good fun--not nearly as twisty as that road down south with over 100 turns in short miles, but fun none the less. This was the longest drive yet since getting back on the road. Car ran like a dream. Sure wish my speedo worked so I knew how fast I was going. ;-o I will have to remount the Alt, though, as the two mount set up I have right now is not stable enough for my tastes. There is another project for this winter. No progress on the 2000. Need to finish wiring by GB dizzy and do the timing. Then figure out why I have no brakes on that car. There is another weekend project to do before the snow comes so I can drive this car to where I store it. PEACE :-) Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From matthews517 at earthlink.net Mon Oct 1 11:04:20 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:04:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Hood Muffling Material In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Peter wrote: Thinking of putting some muffling/baffling material under the hood to quieten things down a bit. Are there any known concerns re engine compartment temperature? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN I just put this stuff on the inside of the hood (double layer actually, though I didn't really need the second). http://www.lobucrod.com/index.htm He also sells on eBay (search automotive insulation) and ships quick (FedEx ground). Mine came a day earlier than FedEx said it would. It's kind of like some of the material used for windshield sun shades. It can also be used on the firewall/inner fenders. For the firewall, it will probably be easier from the inside of the car. I've already also lined the inside of the door panels. It's getting quieter all the time. I still have enough to line the inside of the hardtop (once it arrives). I'm going to buy a second (4x10) roll to do the interior floor once I decide to replace the carpet. That should help with the heat and noise from that exhaust pipe which sits 4 inches from our butts! Matt Smith And Loreli From brianrreynolds at yahoo.com Mon Oct 1 13:12:39 2007 From: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com (Brian Reynolds) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:12:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? Message-ID: <363711.99542.qm@web62411.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hi List, I'm looking for good or bad comments / opinions on the 9 piece carpet kit regularly offered on Ebay by "Too Intense Restoration." The price is $183 and includes a bonus piece (carpet or rubber?) for the trunk. Besides the fit and finish, I'm wondering how close it is in appearance to the original. Thanks in advance. -Brian Toronto Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com From tminerpcav at aol.com Mon Oct 1 13:35:38 2007 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:35:38 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? In-Reply-To: <363711.99542.qm@web62411.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <363711.99542.qm@web62411.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8C9D27961326136-1D44-4374@webmail-de20.sysops.aol.com> Brian, ?I'd recommend that you spend the money for a quality set ($300 - $600) and just do the job once! I've not seen this set personally, but from my experiences I've found that there are no "free lunches".? Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: Brian Reynolds To: Roadster List Sent: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:12 pm Subject: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? Hi List, I'm looking for good or bad comments / opinions on the 9 piece carpet kit regularly offered on Ebay by "Too Intense Restoration." The price is $183 and includes a bonus piece (carpet or rubber?) for the trunk. Besides the fit and finish, I'm wondering how close it is in appearance to the original. Thanks in advance. -Brian Toronto Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com ________________________________________ tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From matthews517 at earthlink.net Mon Oct 1 14:26:08 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:26:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Electronic Guages Message-ID: Hi All, Questions about electronic gauges: Since the 70 SRL has mechanical tach and speedo, how do I change to electronic (digital) gauges? I assume that it wouldn't be too hard to figure out the tach, but the speedo has me stumped. Does anyone know of a part or kit (or company who makes parts/kits) that will allow me to add an electronic speed sensor which appears to be necessary for this application? I'm looking at putting in Cyberdyne Blue Ice instruments Thanks, Matt Smith And Loreli (She's a '70 Silver Solex) From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Oct 1 14:33:43 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:33:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? In-Reply-To: <8C9D27961326136-1D44-4374@webmail-de20.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000d01c8046a$5f788ec0$6501a8c0@xp> Dunno about the Intense Restoration kit, but I've read nothing but praise for the carpet kits from Les and Dean. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tminerpcav at aol.com Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 12:36 PM To: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? Brian, ?I'd recommend that you spend the money for a quality set ($300 - $600) and just do the job once! I've not seen this set personally, but from my experiences I've found that there are no "free lunches".? Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: Brian Reynolds To: Roadster List Sent: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:12 pm Subject: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? Hi List, I'm looking for good or bad comments / opinions on the 9 piece carpet kit regularly offered on Ebay by "Too Intense Restoration." The price is $183 and includes a bonus piece (carpet or rubber?) for the trunk. Besides the fit and finish, I'm wondering how close it is in appearance to the original. Thanks in advance. -Brian Toronto From matthews517 at earthlink.net Mon Oct 1 15:07:32 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:07:32 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? In-Reply-To: <363711.99542.qm@web62411.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: According to the receipts that came with my car, the carpet (loop pile) came from TIR. I vaguely remember what "original" carpet looked like in these cars but not enough to judge. My carpet looks fine for the most part, except where I drilled through it to put on an aftermarket shift boot and wound a yarn around the drill bit. Looks like a run in a pair of stockings. Don't do this. The trunk piece is carpet, not rubber. Mine also has a matching carpet spare tire cover (also known as the place I keep the screws that I can't figure out where they came from! HAHAHA) There is a heel pad on the drivers side which is lifting off the pile, so sooner or later I'll be buying new carpet. I'll be calling Dean when I do. My 2 cents Matt Smith, And Loreli (She's a '70 Silver Solex) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Reynolds Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:13 PM To: Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? Hi List, I'm looking for good or bad comments / opinions on the 9 piece carpet kit regularly offered on Ebay by "Too Intense Restoration." The price is $183 and includes a bonus piece (carpet or rubber?) for the trunk. Besides the fit and finish, I'm wondering how close it is in appearance to the original. Thanks in advance. -Brian Toronto Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com ________________________________________ matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon Oct 1 17:13:57 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:13:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat [was: Hood Muffling Material] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47011CC5.2882.170C94D@localhost> > ...That should help with the heat and noise from that > exhaust pipe which sits 4 inches from our butts! Don't know for sure about earlier cars, but on a stock '69 there's a thick fiberglas pad between the muffler and the floor pan. I doubt many of the cars out there still have this mat... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon Oct 1 17:35:25 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:35:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Donut In-Reply-To: <000601c8023b$8e287040$6401a8c0@xp> References: Message-ID: <470121CD.31284.18471E5@localhost> > So, I broadened my JY search & found that the "donut" from the first > generation Saab 900 (1979-1987) works like a charm. It is thin and of a > smaller diameter than the stock steel wheel + tire. If it is smaller in diameter than the tire it's replacing, beware that it may be incompatible with a limited slip rear end. To the diff, you're always turning in a circle and/or one tire is always slipping. I don't know if a run-of-the-mill diff will suffer under such treatment. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From tputland at charter.net Mon Oct 1 18:09:03 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:09:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat [was: Hood Muffling Material] In-Reply-To: <47011CC5.2882.170C94D@localhost> Message-ID: <20071001200903.RJBFU.115297.root@fepweb16> I know my 2000 doesn't have this pad...I drove it with out the driver's seat earlier this summer, not very far but still got a hot ass. ouch Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- John F Sandhoff wrote: > > ...That should help with the heat and noise from that > > exhaust pipe which sits 4 inches from our butts! > > Don't know for sure about earlier cars, but on a stock '69 > there's a thick fiberglas pad between the muffler and the floor > pan. I doubt many of the cars out there still have this mat... > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Mon Oct 1 18:29:15 2007 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:29:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. Message-ID: Whenever I drove my Roadster for any length of time I noticed the tranny tunnel would start to get pretty hot. (You will notice how much heat blows through that tunnel if you've ever gone without your shift boot.) When I redid a 1600 a few years ago, I replaced the carpet including the carpet on the transmission tunnel. Before I installed that carpet I glued down some thin foil-type insulating material on the tranny tunnel. It worked great. It didn't eliminate the heat all together, but it did a much better job than just the carpet alone. I recommend it - IF you are going to be taking out your console anyway. I don't think I would tear it down JUST to do that though. Greg SRL31100494 "Roadstering since '75" From andycost at earthlink.net Mon Oct 1 18:46:35 2007 From: andycost at earthlink.net (andy cost) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:46:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "Before I installed that carpet I glued down some thin foil-type insulating material on the tranny tunnel." Works great to keep the aliens out of your head too. Andy From mvaughn120 at aol.com Mon Oct 1 19:35:40 2007 From: mvaughn120 at aol.com (mvaughn120 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:35:40 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] In Search of - a Key Message-ID: <8C9D2ABACDA1DEC-D74-47B6@MBLK-M30.sysops.aol.com> The original and only key that I had to my 66 Datsun has been misplaced.? I'm in need of a key to fit an ignition switch with the number 3107 on the front of it and the number 52 on the side of it.? Any assistance, would be greatly appreciated.?? ? Thank you in advance, Shelly Vaughn SPL311-00058 Wilmington, Delaware ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From mark at dealermats.com Mon Oct 1 19:33:19 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:33:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Key Number 3107 Message-ID: <001301c80494$366838d0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Anyone have a ignition key that is key code 3107? I need one cut to move a car. Mark From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Oct 1 19:56:13 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:56:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000801c80497$69d998a0$6501a8c0@xp> OH NO! You mean there are aliens in our transmission tunnels, too?!! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of andy cost Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 5:47 PM To: DATSUN-ROADSTERS at AUTOX.TEAM.NET Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. "Before I installed that carpet I glued down some thin foil-type insulating material on the tranny tunnel." Works great to keep the aliens out of your head too. Andy From drlsmith at dccnet.com Mon Oct 1 20:06:23 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:06:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Electronic Guages References: Message-ID: <002b01c80498$d5f36f60$e63fcf18@Daryl> Does anyone know of a part or > kit (or company who makes parts/kits) that will allow me to add an > electronic speed sensor which appears to be necessary for this > application? > I'm looking at putting in Cyberdyne Blue Ice instruments > > Thanks, > > Matt Smith If they are a reputable company, Cyberdyne should supply the sensor which should adapt to the transmission or speedo cable along with their speedo.......... Daryl From joek at camberconstruction.com Mon Oct 1 20:42:37 2007 From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:42:37 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] In Search of - a Key In-Reply-To: <8C9D2ABACDA1DEC-D74-47B6@MBLK-M30.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <200710020242.l922goLG007116@flpi185.prodigy.net> My ignition and center console lock had the same number on the front. I took out the center console lock and took it to one of the better locksmith shops in town. I believe they just cut it to the code. My car is a 68 though. One way or the other, it was $35. Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mvaughn120 at aol.com Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:36 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] In Search of - a Key The original and only key that I had to my 66 Datsun has been misplaced.? I'm in need of a key to fit an ignition switch with the number 3107 on the front of it and the number 52 on the side of it.? Any assistance, would be greatly appreciated.?? ? Thank you in advance, Shelly Vaughn SPL311-00058 Wilmington, Delaware ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ________________________________________ joek at camberconstruction.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at jorsm.com Mon Oct 1 21:02:57 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:02:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? References: <363711.99542.qm@web62411.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002601c804a0$bcfe4cc0$19a0aa42@gaxp1> Brian, I found a good trim shop, and had carpeting custom fit for my car. It was $300.00 in 1996, and I elected to have the floor carpet made in single pieces for each side. (I was tired of screwing around with the front versus rear pieces of which the stock carpet is comprised. The trim shop (like a marine dealer) put wear pads where I wanted them, and so forth. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Reynolds" To: "Roadster List" Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? > Hi List, > > I'm looking for good or bad comments / opinions on the 9 piece carpet kit > regularly offered on Ebay by "Too Intense Restoration." The price is $183 > and includes a bonus piece (carpet or rubber?) for the trunk. Besides the > fit and finish, I'm wondering how close it is in appearance to the > original. > > Thanks in advance. > -Brian > Toronto > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to > Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com > ________________________________________ > > aultgc at jorsm.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Tue Oct 2 05:23:04 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:23:04 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. In-Reply-To: <000801c80497$69d998a0$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: The transmission tunnel is where the alien hides when he's not screwing up my electrical system! My dad always said it was a little Japanese guy in there. Because these cars were built from the outside in! Since our cars are NOT in Japan, I guess they're aliens! George W doesn't need to build a fence at the border. Just get lots of Reynolds Wrap! :-) Matt OH NO! You mean there are aliens in our transmission tunnels, too?!! "Before I installed that carpet I glued down some thin foil-type insulating material on the tranny tunnel." Works great to keep the aliens out of your head too. From matthews517 at earthlink.net Tue Oct 2 06:21:41 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:21:41 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Electronic Gauges, Thanks! In-Reply-To: <002b01c80498$d5f36f60$e63fcf18@Daryl> Message-ID: If they are a reputable company, Cyberdyne should supply the sensor which should adapt to the transmission or speedo cable along with their speedo.......... Daryl And please let me know what you end up with. I swapped my R16 for a KA24 and a 5 speed from a 240SX. My speedo is way off. Paul Ohio It appears that the KA24DE speed sensor will work in the U20 or R16 trannies. You may have to do some gear switching on the sensor. The U20 gear drive is quite small and fit perfectly in the KA tranny. Andy Hi All! Thank you Daryl, Paul, and Andy for the feedback. This is exactly what I was looking for. I'm ordering a sender for a 1994 240SX with Man Trans. Cyberdyne does have senders, but I didn't know if they could replace the fully mechanical style in our roadsters. It appears that they can. One other cool thing they have is a calibration box to calibrate the electronic speedo to any tire/gear ratio combination. I found their stuff on Jegs.com It'll take a while to get the parts together since I'm still on disability from my chemo, but once it's done, I'll post pix. I'm thinking about speedo on left, tach on right, and the display for my Harmon Kardon Drive + Play in the center. With oil press, temp and voltmeter in the radio console (which I have narrowed by 1 1/2 inches for more leg room). I'll figure out the fuel level gauge later. Thanks, Matt Smith And Loreli (she's a '70 Silver Solex) From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us Tue Oct 2 07:38:05 2007 From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 06:38:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Donut References: <470121CD.31284.18471E5@localhost> Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B18441B4E@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us> Yes they will, slightly diff (pun intended) wheel diameters, and in turn (pun intended) wheel circumference can make a regular differential scream after just a few short drives. Find one that can be used on the front end or make sure the overall (tire included) diameter is compatible with the other diameters you have on the car. Enjoy, Eric G ________________________________ From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us at autox.team.net on behalf of John F Sandhoff Sent: Mon 10/1/2007 4:35 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Donut > So, I broadened my JY search & found that the "donut" from the first > generation Saab 900 (1979-1987) works like a charm. It is thin and of a > smaller diameter than the stock steel wheel + tire. If it is smaller in diameter than the tire it's replacing, beware that it may be incompatible with a limited slip rear end. To the diff, you're always turning in a circle and/or one tire is always slipping. I don't know if a run-of-the-mill diff will suffer under such treatment. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Tue Oct 2 08:05:58 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:05:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat [was: Hood Muffling Material] In-Reply-To: <20071001200903.RJBFU.115297.root@fepweb16> Message-ID: An afterthought: For those of you thinking about using this padding under the hood, here's a tip. When I removed the old jute pad previously installed, I found white powdery crap and oxidation on the hood above where the battery sits. I scrubbed it well with a 3/1 paste of baking soda and water to neutralize the acid. I painted the area with Rustoleum to stop the oxidation (so it wouldn't go thru the hood, and then put on the new pad. The new pad is non-porous and will act as a vapor barrier so it shouldn't happen again. Thanks! Matt Smith And Loreli (she's a '70 Silver Solex). P.S. I know my 2000 doesn't have this pad...I drove it with out the driver's seat earlier this summer, not very far but still got a hot ass. ouch Tim No Drivers seat? Hey, maybe I'll finally get the leg room I desperately need! Not only that, but being single, I need a hot ass... and driving is much more fun than working out! My seat mounts have already been moved back 2 inches. I can't go any farther back with the roll bar in place. The 13" Grant steering wheel gave me the belly room I also needed. From bradlustig at earthlink.net Tue Oct 2 08:30:50 2007 From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:30:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. In-Reply-To: <000801c80497$69d998a0$6501a8c0@xp> References: <000801c80497$69d998a0$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <4702561A.20004@earthlink.net> Thank you so much on the tip to keep the aliens away. Now, how about the black helicopters that are always circling over my house? Brad Pete Peters wrote: > OH NO! You mean there are aliens in our transmission tunnels, too?!! > > -----Original Message----- > > > > "Before I installed that carpet I glued > down some thin foil-type insulating material on the tranny tunnel." > > Works great to keep the aliens out of your head too. > > Andy From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 2 08:47:46 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. In-Reply-To: <4702561A.20004@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <920979.43606.qm@web81415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You can see them?! I thought that they were invisible... Brad Lustig wrote: Thank you so much on the tip to keep the aliens away. Now, how about the black helicopters that are always circling over my house? Brad Pete Peters wrote: > OH NO! You mean there are aliens in our transmission tunnels, too?!! > > -----Original Message----- > > > > "Before I installed that carpet I glued > down some thin foil-type insulating material on the tranny tunnel." > > Works great to keep the aliens out of your head too. > > Andy From matthews517 at earthlink.net Tue Oct 2 08:52:56 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:52:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. In-Reply-To: <4702561A.20004@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Brad, The government runs on a different frequency than the aliens. For that, you will require an armadillo helmet. Check with Bo and Luke Duke, down in Hazzard County GA. Their friend Sheev can hook you up. Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Lustig Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:31 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. Thank you so much on the tip to keep the aliens away. Now, how about the black helicopters that are always circling over my house? Brad Pete Peters wrote: > OH NO! You mean there are aliens in our transmission tunnels, too?!! > > -----Original Message----- > > > > "Before I installed that carpet I glued > down some thin foil-type insulating material on the tranny tunnel." > > Works great to keep the aliens out of your head too. > > Andy ________________________________________ matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Oct 2 09:33:32 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:33:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. In-Reply-To: <920979.43606.qm@web81415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01c80509$970941f0$6501a8c0@xp> Damn! The cloaking device is broke again. That's what happens when you go w/ the lowest bid... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 7:48 AM To: Brad Lustig; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. You can see them?! I thought that they were invisible... Brad Lustig wrote: Thank you so much on the tip to keep the aliens away. Now, how about the black helicopters that are always circling over my house? Brad Pete Peters wrote: > OH NO! You mean there are aliens in our transmission tunnels, too?!! > > -----Original Message----- > > > > "Before I installed that carpet I glued > down some thin foil-type insulating material on the tranny tunnel." > > Works great to keep the aliens out of your head too. > > Andy Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Tue Oct 2 10:41:49 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:41:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Organic brake pads available Message-ID: FYI. Available from PartsAmerica.com. Beck/Arnley PN 0820225 for 28.88 a set. Spend 50.00 and get ground shipping free. Mine are on the way to be delivered Thursday. Bye Bye squeal! Matt Smith From jrdmf at aol.com Tue Oct 2 12:28:46 2007 From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:28:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? In-Reply-To: <002601c804a0$bcfe4cc0$19a0aa42@gaxp1> References: <363711.99542.qm@web62411.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <002601c804a0$bcfe4cc0$19a0aa42@gaxp1> Message-ID: <8C9D33934080AD3-FCC-4648@WEBMAIL-DF08.sysops.aol.com> I purchased one of those kits for my first restoration and ended up spending more time "modifying" it to fit properly than I would have spent making a nicer one from scratch. It's probably okay for an every day driver but unless they have made some major changes, then no way would I use it for a show car. My .02 Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca -----Original Message----- From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: Brian Reynolds ; Roadster List Sent: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 8:02 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 9 piece carpet kit? Brian, I found a good trim shop, and had carpeting custom fit for my car. It was $300.00 in 1996, and I elected to have the floor carpet made in single pieces for each side. (I was tired of screwing around with the front versus rear pieces of which the stock carpet is comprised. The trim shop (like a marine dealer) put wear pads where I wanted them, and so forth. Gary Ault ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From andycost at earthlink.net Tue Oct 2 13:04:19 2007 From: andycost at earthlink.net (Andy Cost) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:04:19 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. Message-ID: <7923041.1191351860173.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> >Now, how about >the black helicopters that are always circling over my house? Sorry, The anti-alien brainwave hat only works for alien mind control defense. The best deterrent for helicopters is nudity. Andy From bradlustig at earthlink.net Tue Oct 2 14:26:29 2007 From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:26:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. In-Reply-To: <7923041.1191351860173.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <7923041.1191351860173.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4702A975.8090006@earthlink.net> That might help with the original topic of this thread, too! Muffler heat. OK, I just pulled all of the fillings out of my teeth, I'm wearing an armadillo hat over my tinfoil hat (you can never be too safe), and I'm naked. That should take care of that. Brad Andy Cost wrote: Now, how about the black helicopters that are always circling over my house? Sorry, The anti-alien brainwave hat only works for alien mind control defense. The best deterrent for helicopters is nudity. Andy ___________ From sales at foilgraphics.com Tue Oct 2 14:39:06 2007 From: sales at foilgraphics.com (Guy) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:39:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. References: <7923041.1191351860173.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4702A975.8090006@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <007c01c80534$52421580$6e01a8c0@sales2006> Good Grief! I had to bash my finger with a hammer just to get that image out of my head. Guy 67.5 stroker Phx, Az. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Lustig" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. > That might help with the original topic of this thread, too! Muffler > heat. > OK, I just pulled all of the fillings out of my teeth, I'm wearing an > armadillo hat over my tinfoil hat (you can never be too safe), and I'm > naked. That should take care of that. > Brad > Andy Cost wrote: > > Now, how about > the black helicopters that are always circling over my house? > > Sorry, The anti-alien brainwave hat only works for alien mind control > defense. > The best deterrent for helicopters is nudity. > > Andy > ___________ > ________________________________________ > > sales at foilgraphics.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From bradlustig at earthlink.net Tue Oct 2 14:45:45 2007 From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:45:45 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. In-Reply-To: <007c01c80534$52421580$6e01a8c0@sales2006> References: <7923041.1191351860173.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <4702A975.8090006@earthlink.net> <007c01c80534$52421580$6e01a8c0@sales2006> Message-ID: <4702ADF9.4040904@earthlink.net> Be careful swinging a hammer around if you're naked! Don't ask me how I know... I think the armadillo hat must look kind of funny. People are pointing and laughing at it. I think the hat may be too small, too. A lot of girls I've walked by are talking about how tiny "it" is. Brad Guy wrote: > Good Grief! > I had to bash my finger with a hammer just to get that image out of my > head. > Guy > 67.5 stroker > Phx, Az. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Lustig" > > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. > > >> That might help with the original topic of this thread, too! Muffler >> heat. >> OK, I just pulled all of the fillings out of my teeth, I'm wearing an >> armadillo hat over my tinfoil hat (you can never be too safe), and I'm >> naked. That should take care of that. >> Brad From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Oct 2 15:27:45 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:27:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. In-Reply-To: <4702A975.8090006@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <001401c8053b$16016a60$6501a8c0@xp> WARNING!!! WARNING!!! APPROACHING VISUAL!!! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Lustig Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:26 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. [snip] ...and I'm naked. From printner at att.net Tue Oct 2 15:30:27 2007 From: printner at att.net (Tim Waltz) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:30:27 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Organic brake pads available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <013a01c8053b$731c4120$7e1071a6@ASEASExw4400> Organic is fine, but are they free range? Tim -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+printner=att.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:42 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Organic brake pads available FYI. Available from PartsAmerica.com. Beck/Arnley PN 0820225 for 28.88 a set. Spend 50.00 and get ground shipping free. Mine are on the way to be delivered Thursday. Bye Bye squeal! Matt Smith From dcon48 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 2 15:39:30 2007 From: dcon48 at yahoo.com (rick celis) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Loose brakes Message-ID: <297443.86937.qm@web90415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This just happened about a day ago my brake pedal goes all the way to the floor when i step on it. On top of that it doesnt stop all that great and the brakes lock up if i try to brake suddenly. All the pressure in the pedal is gone. Any ideas on how to fix. Thanks 70 1600 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From andycost at earthlink.net Tue Oct 2 15:54:29 2007 From: andycost at earthlink.net (Andy Cost) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint taper Message-ID: <20670513.1191362069691.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Does anyone have information about the lower ball joint shaft taper? How about a dimensioned drawing? I'm working on the race car and need some information before going custom. Andy From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us Tue Oct 2 15:55:11 2007 From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:55:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Loose brakes References: <297443.86937.qm@web90415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B18441B51@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us> Pump it like mad until the pressure builds up (seriously, maybe a minute or two), then drive over to your favorite vendor and order a new master brake cyl. This seems to happen to me when the car has sat for a while, dont drive without pressure. Eric G ________________________________ From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us at autox.team.net on behalf of rick celis Sent: Tue 10/2/2007 2:39 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Loose brakes This just happened about a day ago my brake pedal goes all the way to the floor when i step on it. On top of that it doesnt stop all that great and the brakes lock up if i try to brake suddenly. All the pressure in the pedal is gone. Any ideas on how to fix. Thanks 70 1600 _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________ egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Oct 2 16:07:25 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:07:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Loose brakes In-Reply-To: <297443.86937.qm@web90415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002b01c80540$a0b2d720$6501a8c0@xp> Sure, plenty, starting with "search the archives" as this has been discussed many time. Awwwww, c'mon guys, you -KNEW- I was gonna say that! 2. You have the dual-resevoir master brake cylinder. Are both resevoirs empty? 3. When's the last time the brake fluid was completely flushed? This should be done every two years. 4. Inspect the brakes (you may have to remove the wheels). Any evidence of brake fluid leaks? Front pads? Rear linings? Rotor thickness? 5. And then there's the lovely firewall flexing/cracking where the brake m/c mounts, but let's skip that for now. More info: If you find no leaks, flush and bleed and take it from there. Cheers. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rick celis Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 2:40 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Loose brakes This just happened about a day ago my brake pedal goes all the way to the floor when i step on it. On top of that it doesnt stop all that great and the brakes lock up if i try to brake suddenly. All the pressure in the pedal is gone. Any ideas on how to fix. Thanks 70 1600 From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Oct 2 18:20:32 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:50:32 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint taper In-Reply-To: <20670513.1191362069691.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <20670513.1191362069691.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000701c80553$384e7730$426fa8c0@desktop> Lower BJ has the following dims: - large diam. = 17mm[0.669"] small diam. = 15mm[0.590"] taper length = ~19mm[~0.75"] : ) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+graemes=internode.on.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+graemes=internode.on.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Cost Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2007 7:24 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint taper Does anyone have information about the lower ball joint shaft taper? How about a dimensioned drawing? I'm working on the race car and need some information before going custom. Andy ________________________________________ graemes at internode.on.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.37/1042 - Release Date: 1/10/2007 6:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.37/1042 - Release Date: 1/10/2007 6:59 PM From gsglasgow at comcast.net Tue Oct 2 21:14:30 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:14:30 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Everybody's been listing parts to take (all good advice), but let me add a different tip. I've found that a plastic lunchbox makes an excellent tool box. You know, one of those grey ones like construction guys carry. You can roll up a towel and a tube of hand cleaner and stuff it in where the thermos would go. A roll of duct tape will fit in the end of that space. You can fit a ton of wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, hose clamps, wirestrippers, box cutter, mini flashlight, tube of gasket sealer, etc. in there with some shop rags on top to keep them from bouncing around too much.. About all you can't fit in is a torque wrench. But the coolest thing about it is that it will jam down in the back corner of the trunk right behind the taillights and take up practically no useable trunk space. Fill a gallon antifreeze jug with water/antifreeze and it will drop down right ahead of it. You can probably fit a bottle of brake fluid in there too. BTW, Gerardo, do you think packing a spare starter would be a good idea? ;-) Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of peter harrison > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:12 PM > To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip > > > I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a > continuation of my trip to PHX. > I will make sure the heater works!!! > Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else > that I should > take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). > Don't suspect > they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc. > > Thanks > > Peter > Eliza 1970 SPL TOAD SAN. From gsglasgow at comcast.net Tue Oct 2 21:28:04 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:28:04 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. In-Reply-To: <4702A975.8090006@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Just be darn careful getting into your car if you still have the vinyl seat covers and it's a sunny day. YOW! Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org > > > OK, I just pulled all of the fillings out of my teeth, I'm wearing an > armadillo hat over my tinfoil hat (you can never be too safe), and I'm > naked. That should take care of that. > Brad From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Oct 2 21:03:16 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:03:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Spare Part Need In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Anyone have an unbroken passenger door side rear channel that they would like to part with. Pls reply with cost and shipping to Los Angeles. I intend to make this one bulletproof. Thanks. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Tue Oct 2 21:47:57 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:47:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip - tool/parts boxes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <470310ED.3060109@hornesystemstx.com> My favorite tool/parts box is the bottom part of a 5 gallon paint bucket. Cut the bucket off to a height that will fit under your spare tire, then cut a hole in the middle of the bottom to clear the spare retaining boss. Put it in place and fill it with stuff, then put the spare in on top of it. It used no space in the trunk. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Gordon Glasgow: > Everybody's been listing parts to take (all good advice), but let me add a > different tip. > > I've found that a plastic lunchbox makes an excellent tool box. You know, > one of those grey ones like construction guys carry. You can roll up a towel > and a tube of hand cleaner and stuff it in where the thermos would go. A > roll of duct tape will fit in the end of that space. You can fit a ton of > wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, hose clamps, wirestrippers, box cutter, > mini flashlight, tube of gasket sealer, etc. in there with some shop rags on > top to keep them from bouncing around too much.. About all you can't fit in > is a torque wrench. > > But the coolest thing about it is that it will jam down in the back corner > of the trunk right behind the taillights and take up practically no useable > trunk space. Fill a gallon antifreeze jug with water/antifreeze and it will > drop down right ahead of it. You can probably fit a bottle of brake fluid in > there too. > > BTW, Gerardo, do you think packing a spare starter would be a good idea? > ;-) > > Gordon Glasgow > Renton, WA > www.gordon-glasgow.org > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On >> Behalf Of peter harrison >> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:12 PM >> To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip >> >> >> I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a >> continuation of my trip to PHX. >> I will make sure the heater works!!! >> Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else >> that I should >> take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). >> Don't suspect >> they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc. >> >> Thanks >> >> Peter >> Eliza 1970 SPL TOAD SAN. >> > ________________________________________ > > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From aultgc at jorsm.com Tue Oct 2 21:50:36 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:50:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. Message-ID: <200710030350.l933oaYD011667@outbound-mta.egix.net> I hope y'all aren't driving in your present condition(s)... On Tue Oct 2 17:27 , "Pete Peters" sent: WARNING!!! WARNING!!! APPROACHING VISUAL!!! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comc ast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comc ast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Lustig Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 1:26 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Muffler heat etc. [snip] ...and I'm naked. ________________________________________ aultgc at jorsm.c om Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters< BR> From efrisbee at charter.net Wed Oct 3 03:44:23 2007 From: efrisbee at charter.net (efrisbee at charter.net) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 2:44:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Loose brakes In-Reply-To: <297443.86937.qm@web90415.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20071003054423.P9WX7.61356.root@fepweb13> Check the system for leaks... if nothing, then I'd suggest rebleeding the system. Good luck! Eric ---- rick celis wrote: > This just happened about a day ago my brake pedal goes > all the way to the floor when i step on it. On top of > that it doesnt stop all that great and the brakes lock > up if i try to brake suddenly. All the pressure in the > pedal is gone. Any ideas on how to fix. > Thanks > 70 1600 > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > ________________________________________ > > efrisbee at charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Wed Oct 3 05:30:54 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:30:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip - tool/parts boxes In-Reply-To: <470310ED.3060109@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: Peter, Have you thought about having a small receiver hitch mounted? Then you could get one of those motorcycle trailers to tow with your tools. Then you could carry tools AND a change of clothes! If you had one of those ones shaped like a corvette, then the corvette would be in it's rightful place... BEHIND the ROADSTER! HAHAHAHA! Seriously though, I saw one recently shaped like a miniature wave runner. That was pretty cool. I took a trip to Mississippi last year. That may have been the last roadster they saw! I carried lots of tools and minimal clothes. Wal-Mart's are everywhere and cotton T-shirts, sweatpants, and socks are biodegradable. (a word of advice... you don't want to break in new underwear by driving across country in them) I've often thought about putting a receiver hitch on Loreli just to carry a bike rack. Let me know if you're going to come thru Chattanooga, TN. I have (some) parts and a spare bedroom you're welcome to crash in. Folks here have seen ONE roadster (mine) but NEVER TWO! You might want to look this up and add it to your route, it's a blast! Tailofthedragon.com HWY 129 at the NC/TN border in the Smokey Mountains. 318 curves in 11 miles! Only takes a couple hours to get there from Chattanooga, Nashville, or Atlanta. (Check out the map on the site called Dragon Map With Curve Names. Might not want to check out the one called Dragon Map With Locations Of Deaths Since 2000!) Matt Smith And Loreli (she's a '70 Silver Solex) >> I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a >> continuation of my trip to PHX. >> I will make sure the heater works!!! >> Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else >> that I should >> take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). >> Don't suspect >> they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc. From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Wed Oct 3 06:20:25 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 07:20:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip - tool/parts boxes In-Reply-To: <470310ED.3060109@hornesystemstx.com> References: <470310ED.3060109@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <47038909.8040303@hornesystemstx.com> Oh, I forgot one more part of the tool tray. I found that the core of a roll of duct tape fits around the retaining boss and can be left with as much duct tape on it as you like. Peace, Pat Thusly spake Pat Horne: > My favorite tool/parts box is the bottom part of a 5 gallon paint > bucket. Cut the bucket off to a height that will fit under your spare > tire, then cut a hole in the middle of the bottom to clear the spare > retaining boss. Put it in place and fill it with stuff, then put the > spare in on top of it. It used no space in the trunk. > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Gordon Glasgow: > >> Everybody's been listing parts to take (all good advice), but let me add a >> different tip. >> >> I've found that a plastic lunchbox makes an excellent tool box. You know, >> one of those grey ones like construction guys carry. You can roll up a towel >> and a tube of hand cleaner and stuff it in where the thermos would go. A >> roll of duct tape will fit in the end of that space. You can fit a ton of >> wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, hose clamps, wirestrippers, box cutter, >> mini flashlight, tube of gasket sealer, etc. in there with some shop rags on >> top to keep them from bouncing around too much.. About all you can't fit in >> is a torque wrench. >> >> But the coolest thing about it is that it will jam down in the back corner >> of the trunk right behind the taillights and take up practically no useable >> trunk space. Fill a gallon antifreeze jug with water/antifreeze and it will >> drop down right ahead of it. You can probably fit a bottle of brake fluid in >> there too. >> >> BTW, Gerardo, do you think packing a spare starter would be a good idea? >> ;-) >> >> Gordon Glasgow >> Renton, WA >> www.gordon-glasgow.org >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net >>> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On >>> Behalf Of peter harrison >>> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:12 PM >>> To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>> Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip >>> >>> >>> I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a >>> continuation of my trip to PHX. >>> I will make sure the heater works!!! >>> Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else >>> that I should >>> take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). >>> Don't suspect >>> they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Peter >>> Eliza 1970 SPL TOAD SAN. >>> >>> >> ________________________________________ >> >> roadsters at hornesystemstx.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> >> >> > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Wed Oct 3 06:34:34 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 07:34:34 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Boerne Dinner Pics Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76165748@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Hey all - I just want to thank everyone for coming out to dinner in Texas!! See Ron's note below - hope you don't mind Ron. It was a great evening with you guys! I will say that every Roadster guy/gal/couple that I have met were outstanding. Ron has a wonderful book on Roadster happenings from the 70's that is a must see, Dan and Marc - many thanks for bringing your works of art, and it was great to meet Corky Bell - you must pick up copies of his turbocharging and supercharging books! Yes - there was talk about that elusive East Coast Roadster event..... Happy to have it in Huntsville - my house is open to you guys. Again - thanks everyone!! Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: Ronnie Day [mailto:ronnie.day at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 5:59 PM To: Marc Tyler; Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03); Corky Bell; Pat Horne; Dan Zubkoff; Tom Walter - Yahoo Subject: Boerne Dinner Pics Check 'em out at (http://homepage.mac.com/rond510/PhotoAlbum1.html). This is my first DotMac web page, and thinking about it, my first personal page, period. If there are corrections, just let me know. I think everyone had a great time. Elayne and I did, and I still can't believe that Dan (aka, Iron Butt!!) drove all the way from Katy, had a soda and stayed for barely 30 minutes, and then drove straight back home. Dan, your roadster and Marc's pickup really set the evening off beautifully. Let's figure out how and where we can do it again soon, Ron From r.long2 at comcast.net Wed Oct 3 08:03:38 2007 From: r.long2 at comcast.net (r.long2 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 14:03:38 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Boerne Dinner Pics Message-ID: <100320071403.9231.4703A1380003BC790000240F2200750330CD09020104D29D@comcast.net> Nice Pics, it's always interesting to see the faces behind the names. Robert - 67.5 1600 - ABQ -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" > Hey all - > > I just want to thank everyone for coming out to dinner in Texas!! See > Ron's note below - hope you don't mind Ron. It was a great evening > with you guys! I will say that every Roadster guy/gal/couple that I > have met were outstanding. Ron has a wonderful book on Roadster > happenings from the 70's that is a must see, Dan and Marc - many thanks > for bringing your works of art, and it was great to meet Corky Bell - > you must pick up copies of his turbocharging and supercharging books! > > Yes - there was talk about that elusive East Coast Roadster event..... > Happy to have it in Huntsville - my house is open to you guys. > > Again - thanks everyone!! > > Phil > SEROC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ronnie Day [mailto:ronnie.day at gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 5:59 PM > To: Marc Tyler; Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03); Corky Bell; Pat Horne; Dan > Zubkoff; Tom Walter - Yahoo > Subject: Boerne Dinner Pics > > Check 'em out at (http://homepage.mac.com/rond510/PhotoAlbum1.html). > This is my first DotMac web page, and thinking about it, my first > personal page, period. If there are corrections, just let me know. > > I think everyone had a great time. Elayne and I did, and I still can't > believe that Dan (aka, Iron Butt!!) drove all the way from Katy, had a > soda and stayed for barely 30 minutes, and then drove straight back > home. Dan, your roadster and Marc's pickup really set the evening off > beautifully. > > Let's figure out how and where we can do it again soon, Ron > ________________________________________ > > r.long2 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From efrisbee at charter.net Wed Oct 3 08:44:41 2007 From: efrisbee at charter.net (efrisbee at charter.net) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 7:44:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip - tool/parts boxes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071003104441.X9I4V.71487.root@fepweb07> I *HIGHLY* recommend going to The Tail of the Dragon!!! That's one of the most roadster friendly roads I've ever seen! Bring a strong stomach and a healthy dose of insanity because it's curve upon curve! You do have to watch out for a ton of motorcycles, but it's well worth the time and effort to get there! If there is a big group going someday soon, please let me know! :) Eric ---- "Matthew A. Smith" wrote: > Peter, > Have you thought about having a small receiver hitch mounted? Then you could > get one of those motorcycle trailers to tow with your tools. Then you could > carry tools AND a change of clothes! If you had one of those ones shaped > like a corvette, then the corvette would be in it's rightful place... BEHIND > the ROADSTER! HAHAHAHA! Seriously though, I saw one recently shaped like a > miniature wave runner. That was pretty cool. > > I took a trip to Mississippi last year. That may have been the last roadster > they saw! I carried lots of tools and minimal clothes. Wal-Mart's are > everywhere and cotton T-shirts, sweatpants, and socks are biodegradable. (a > word of advice... you don't want to break in new underwear by driving across > country in them) > > I've often thought about putting a receiver hitch on Loreli just to carry a > bike rack. > > Let me know if you're going to come thru Chattanooga, TN. I have (some) > parts and a spare bedroom you're welcome to crash in. Folks here have seen > ONE roadster (mine) but NEVER TWO! > > You might want to look this up and add it to your route, it's a blast! > Tailofthedragon.com > HWY 129 at the NC/TN border in the Smokey Mountains. 318 curves in 11 miles! > Only takes a couple hours to get there from Chattanooga, Nashville, or > Atlanta. (Check out the map on the site called Dragon Map With Curve Names. > Might not want to check out the one called Dragon Map With Locations Of > Deaths Since 2000!) > > Matt Smith > And Loreli (she's a '70 Silver Solex) > > >> I am seriously thinking of taking a cross country trip in November as a > >> continuation of my trip to PHX. > >> I will make sure the heater works!!! > >> Apart from a spare water pump,gasket,head gasket anything else > >> that I should > >> take along apart from tools,jack etc. (and a map of course). > >> Don't suspect > >> they see too many of these little cars in Mississippi etc. > ________________________________________ > > efrisbee at charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Oct 3 10:32:52 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 12:32:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country trip - tool/parts boxes In-Reply-To: <20071003104441.X9I4V.71487.root@fepweb07> Message-ID: <8C9D3F22D9F52B8-17C-7695@webmail-de03.sysops.aol.com> Peter, Maybe when you plan to go you could post your itinerary online and Roadster pals could join you in an impromptu fun run as you pass thru. It would be of course subject to change and occur during the work day, but all the better The Smokies would be a cool place to drive, they are beautiful. Linda -----Original Message----- From: efrisbee at charter.net To: Matthew A. Smith ; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 7:44 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] X-country trip - tool/parts boxes I *HIGHLY* recommend going to The Tail of the Dragon!!! That's one of the most roadster friendly roads I've ever seen! Bring a strong stomach and a healthy dose of insanity because it's curve upon curve! You do have to watch out for a ton of motorcycles, but it's well worth the time and effort to get there! If there is a big group going someday soon, please let me know! :) Eric ---- "Matthew A. Smith" wrote: > Let me know if you're going to come thru Chattanooga, TN. I have (some) > parts and a spare bedroom you're welcome to crash in. Folks here have seen > ONE roadster (mine) but NEVER TWO! > > You might want to look this up and add it to your route, it's a blast! > Tailofthedragon.com > HWY 129 at the NC/TN border in the Smokey Mountains. 318 curves in 11 miles! > Only takes a couple hours to get there from Chattanooga, Nashville, or > Atlanta. (Check out the map on the site called Dragon Map With Curve Names. > Might not want to check out the one called Dragon Map With Locations Of > Deaths Since 2000!) > > ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Oct 3 13:29:38 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:29:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 8645 miles Message-ID: <001501c805f3$c0380df0$6501a8c0@xp> For those of you who don't use the 311s.org forums, the following was posted by Ruth from Australia. Pretty neat! -------------------------------------------- For all of you wondering how far your sporty will carry you, you may be interested in this trip report: http://www.earlydatsun.com/roundoz.html A couple of our club members decided to drive from Brisbane to the Barossa Valley for the Nationals this year - the long way. For those of you not from around these parts, that's like starting in Washington DC, and circumnavigating the US (anti-clockwise) via Seattle and California for a car club meet in New Orleans. 56k warning - lots of pictures! -------------------------------------------- From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Thu Oct 4 08:21:50 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 07:21:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] FS parts in LA area (Monterey Park) Message-ID: <8AB7DFF4B7187C43B0C93FA2D55E5B8C09C1D5BE@xcgca210.northgrum.com> This showed up on craigslist, no connection with seller. http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/pts/439425257.html From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Oct 4 10:42:57 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:42:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Little Screws Message-ID: Hi, The screws holding down the plate that holds the 3 little vent levers in the center of the dash are missing. Does anyone know what the screw size, pitch is for that? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Oct 4 10:48:50 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:48:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Mea Culpa - Vent Installation. Message-ID: I sort of screwed up with my little tale of installing the vent gaskets. I didn't realise that it would have been so easy just to bend the plates a tad, install the gasket and then bend them back. The tight fit of the originals was due to the way that they were assembled by the factory - fit gasket, line up spindle and then rivet. Obviously the rubber would be compressed. So I caused a certain amount of confusion and spent a lot of time for nothing, (though they do look neat, if one were to bother to look at them) Mea Culpa again. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From matthews517 at earthlink.net Thu Oct 4 11:22:53 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:22:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Little Screws In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Peter, On a late model dash, those are #10/32 approx 1/2 inch long pan head with a small split ring lock washer (Phillips drive) Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:43 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Little Screws Hi, The screws holding down the plate that holds the 3 little vent levers in the center of the dash are missing. Does anyone know what the screw size, pitch is for that? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN ________________________________________ matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From printner at att.net Thu Oct 4 11:45:25 2007 From: printner at att.net (printner at att.net) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:45:25 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008 Message-ID: <100420071745.8777.470526B50007F6DA0000224921603763169D0A029B02079D9F@att.net> Does anyone know if the Solvang 2008 dates are set? I have a free ticket to book, and I'm running out of time. TIA Tim From matthews517 at earthlink.net Thu Oct 4 17:40:41 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:40:41 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tail of the Dragon - Deals Gap Message-ID: Hi All. If you'd like to see what you're missing by NOT having been to the Tail of the Dragon, check out Superbikes on the Speed Channel. It's too late for east coast folks, since this episode started at 7:00 and is a half hour show, but Westies may wish to check this out. Just in case you find yourself on the east coast with your roadster (or in the passenger seat of mine!). The episode is titled "Deals Gap / McCoy Motorsports". This episode will re-air on Monday 10/29 at 11:00 PM. Set the Tivo! Makes me wish UPS had come with my brakes today! (that's why I'm rebuilding a spare alternator on my dining room table this evening instead of tinkering on my car!) Exercise your right to drive the twisty roads! Matt Smith And Loreli (she's a '70 Silver Solex) From kendelmccarley at cox.net Thu Oct 4 18:53:59 2007 From: kendelmccarley at cox.net (kendelmccarley at cox.net) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:53:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump removal Message-ID: <20071004205359.B2QH9.39510.root@fed1wml18> Okay, I feel silly asking this, but how the heck does one remove the fuel pump from a 1600 without lifting the engine? I take the nuts off and the thing slides back until it hits the frame, then no more. From slowboy at cox.net Thu Oct 4 18:59:26 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:59:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump removal References: <20071004205359.B2QH9.39510.root@fed1wml18> Message-ID: <000d01c806ea$fac97600$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> http://311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5175&highlight=fuel+pump&sid=d4b07d939de36ef710ebaf8626cecf41 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 5:53 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump removal > Okay, I feel silly asking this, but how the heck does one remove the fuel > pump from a 1600 without lifting the engine? I take the nuts off and the > thing slides back until it hits the frame, then no more. > ________________________________________ From sandhoff at csus.edu Thu Oct 4 19:06:39 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:06:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump removal In-Reply-To: <20071004205359.B2QH9.39510.root@fed1wml18> Message-ID: <47052BAF.20348.1DC35D9@localhost> > Okay, I feel silly asking this, but how the heck does one remove > the fuel pump from a 1600 without lifting the engine? Is there an echo in here? :-) Enrique posted this on 15-Sep: === I postd this on 311s, but I'll post it here for those that don't go there: Since my car is currently in a position to play with this, I gave it a try to determine if there was a simple procedure to installing/removing the fuel pump. After all, they must have envisioned having to do this as part of regular maintenance at some point. What I found is this: First remove the nuts holding the fuel pump to the block. (Question for others out there, are there supposed to be lock washers on this? Mine did not have any, seems the studs are way too short, and any longer would REALLY make removal a royal pain.) Next, pull on the fuel pump till the stud flanges just clear the studs on the block, then you rotate the complete pump assembly just a bit. Either to where a line perpendicular to the top of the pump points to the 1:30 or the 10:30 position (if you could view it directly from the side of the engine block). The axis of rotation goes directly though the center of the bottom half of the fuel pump, side to side of the car/block. Then rotate the bottom half of the pump away from the block with the axis of rotation being perpendicular to the position you chose. That is if you rotated to the 1:30 position, you would rotate the bottom part of the pump's body with the axis going between the 10:30 and 4:30 points. (Conversely, top @ 10:30 axis is at 1:30/7:30.) The axis now goes through the UPPER half of the pump. I'm trying to describe something that will be very easy and almost intuitive ... once you rotate the fuel pump. I've done this both ways, and have NOT had to lift or move the motor at all. Re-installation is just as simple ( "Reversal of Removal" ), except that you first must make sure the lever that operates the pump will insert into the block and be above the portion of the crank that actuates it. HTH Enrique From garytew at cox.net Thu Oct 4 19:21:22 2007 From: garytew at cox.net (Gary Tew) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:21:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] windshield installation Message-ID: <47059192.6040009@cox.net> Anyone know the bolt size for the 4 bolts that secure the windshield to the body along the sides? Update.. I installed the dash this week along with a new dash cap from Dean. Fit and finish look great but I didn't have those pointy screws for the dash cap install. Man, do I wish I had them. I highly encourage you to keep your old ones if possible or buy new ones. I used some junky ones to initially do about every other hole. Then, I used my new ordinary screws to fill in the remainder of the attachments and then replaced the old pointies with new hardware. I'll have some pics on my site soon. Most of my wiring is done. I'll be doing the center radio console after I get the windshield installed. Cheers. Gary Tew Phoenix, AZ www.members.cox.net/garytew From todd.osborn at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 4 20:03:20 2007 From: todd.osborn at sbcglobal.net (Todd Osborn) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:03:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Donut spare tires In-Reply-To: <470121CD.31284.18471E5@localhost> Message-ID: <000001c806f3$e800b840$68796b45@HAL5000> John makes a very good point; running different size tires on the rear end put stress on the differential. The side gears and diff gears in the roadster rear end are plain bearings and subject to galling when rotated continuously. When driving in a straight line the diff and side gears don't turn, the gear carrier with it's attached ring gear are supported by large roller bearings, these take all the drive loads. I recommend finding a tire that matches or only mount the spare on the front end if you need to drive for any significant distance. Todd Osborn San Jose, CA John F Sandhoff said >If it is smaller in diameter than the tire it's replacing, beware that >it may be incompatible with a limited slip rear end... From kendelmccarley at cox.net Thu Oct 4 20:05:58 2007 From: kendelmccarley at cox.net (kendelmccarley at cox.net) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:05:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump removal In-Reply-To: <47052BAF.20348.1DC35D9@localhost> Message-ID: <20071004220558.KSEVH.40232.root@fed1wml18> That's me at the back of the class, staring out the window. At least I know I'm not the only one who was puzzled by the pump. Shoving the engine over by the valve cover gave me enough clearance. The pump diaphragm is still intact and there's a bit of gas inside. This car has sat for a long time without a tank installed. I guess I'll pressurize the new tank to get the pump primed and the fuel flowing. ---- John F Sandhoff wrote: ============= > Okay, I feel silly asking this, but how the heck does one remove > the fuel pump from a 1600 without lifting the engine? Is there an echo in here? :-) Enrique posted this on 15-Sep: === I postd this on 311s, but I'll post it here for those that don't go there: Since my car is currently in a position to play with this, I gave it a try to determine if there was a simple procedure to installing/removing the fuel pump. After all, they must have envisioned having to do this as part of regular maintenance at some point. What I found is this: First remove the nuts holding the fuel pump to the block. (Question for others out there, are there supposed to be lock washers on this? Mine did not have any, seems the studs are way too short, and any longer would REALLY make removal a royal pain.) Next, pull on the fuel pump till the stud flanges just clear the studs on the block, then you rotate the complete pump assembly just a bit. Either to where a line perpendicular to the top of the pump points to the 1:30 or the 10:30 position (if you could view it directly from the side of the engine block). The axis of rotation goes directly though the center of the bottom half of the fuel pump, side to side of the car/block. Then rotate the bottom half of the pump away from the block with the axis of rotation being perpendicular to the position you chose. That is if you rotated to the 1:30 position, you would rotate the bottom part of the pump's body with the axis going between the 10:30 and 4:30 points. (Conversely, top @ 10:30 axis is at 1:30/7:30.) The axis now goes through the UPPER half of the pump. I'm trying to describe something that will be very easy and almost intuitive ... once you rotate the fuel pump. I've done this both ways, and have NOT had to lift or move the motor at all. Re-installation is just as simple ( "Reversal of Removal" ), except that you first must make sure the lever that operates the pump will insert into the block and be above the portion of the crank that actuates it. HTH Enrique From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Oct 4 19:56:52 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:56:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump removal In-Reply-To: <20071004205359.B2QH9.39510.root@fed1wml18> References: <20071004205359.B2QH9.39510.root@fed1wml18> Message-ID: <8C9D50A22691C49-C3C-35EE@FWM-M36.sysops.aol.com> I just did this and it was a pain. Enrique's method did not work for me. Had to unbolt the nuts off the motor mount and lift. See the thread posted. Be sure to change the oil after you put in the new pump. If it leaked you have gas in the oil. Get a rebuildable pump if you can then you never have to go thru all that again. Or go electric like many have done. Linda -----Original Message----- From: kendelmccarley at cox.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 5:53 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump removal Okay, I feel silly asking this, but how the heck does one remove the fuel pump from a 1600 without lifting the engine? I take the nuts off and the thing slides back until it hits the frame, then no more. ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Oct 4 21:11:51 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:41:51 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] windshield installation In-Reply-To: <47059192.6040009@cox.net> References: <47059192.6040009@cox.net> Message-ID: <000601c806fd$7cbb6e90$426fa8c0@desktop> Low windshield side mounts, threaded holes in the body just rear of the "A" pillar: - 4 @ 5/16" x 24 TPI [UNF] [Roadsters] windshield installation Anyone know the bolt size for the 4 bolts that secure the windshield to the body along the sides? Gary Tew No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1048 - Release Date: 3/10/2007 8:22 PM From sumton at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 4 22:22:09 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:22:09 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Tail of the Dragon - Deals Gap References: Message-ID: <003e01c80708$9cc83b40$8215a8c0@Garage.local> we did tail of the dragon two summers ago. its totally worth it. my recommendation (in hindsight) - drive one way, switch and be a passenger going back. you're working so hard driving that you miss a lot of the scenery!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:40 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Tail of the Dragon - Deals Gap > Hi All. > > If you'd like to see what you're missing by NOT having been to the Tail of > the Dragon, check out Superbikes on the Speed Channel. It's too late for > east coast folks, since this episode started at 7:00 and is a half hour > show, but Westies may wish to check this out. Just in case you find > yourself > on the east coast with your roadster (or in the passenger seat of mine!). > The episode is titled "Deals Gap / McCoy Motorsports". From matthews517 at earthlink.net Fri Oct 5 07:02:15 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:02:15 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Little Screws In-Reply-To: <004701c806f2$af304e50$0ba0aa42@gaxp1> Message-ID: Hi Gary and Peter, Too true! Always check carefully before putting in new bolts/screws. I've boogered a few. Before writing the info below though, I did pull a screw out of Loreli's dash and test it against my size/pitch gauge. I also threaded on a known 10x32 nut onto the screw. I have seen in several places on 311s.org and in Scott Sheeler's "The Datsun Roadster Book(s)", that the late cars used both metric and SAE parts. Makes it twice as fun to pick the right socket, I tell ya! The "small" is, of course, relative. At first, I read "small" to mean the little set screws used on knobs. Then I looked at my dash and realized that there were 3 screws holding the plate on. Peter, Try a 10x32. Finger tighten first just to make sure. Oh, it's also the same size screw as the one that holds the radio console to the trans tunnel as I recall. -----Original Message----- From: Gary and Cindy Ault [mailto:aultgc at jorsm.com] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:55 PM To: Matthew A. Smith; peter harrison Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Little Screws Matt, I have an early car, so I don't know for sure, but late-model cars were supposed to be all metric. And, a 10-32 is not what I would call a "small screw". Unfortunately, I could not find a diagram in the Nissan parts manual which shows these screws. Peter, I'd check real carefully before I put SAE fasteners into a late-model roadster. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew A. Smith" To: "'peter harrison'" ; Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Little Screws > Peter, > On a late model dash, those are #10/32 approx 1/2 inch long pan head with > a > small split ring lock washer (Phillips drive) > Matt From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Fri Oct 5 07:13:26 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:13:26 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Wow -WyCROC just passed an anniversay Message-ID: Hey Datsun World, help us celebrate !!!!!! We just barely passed out EIGHTH ANNIVERSARY of WyCROC. Our inaugural ride was Sunday September 19, 1999, and we just held our 43rd official ride (though there have been a lot of unofficial get together's). The group started with a rag tag bunch of 8 owners and 6 cars that showed up that eventful day. We now sport 77 owners that have asked to come play in our sandbox. This ownership list claims title to at least 96 assorted roadsters (and a few Z's - but didn't count them). Lots of great memories of past events are shown on _http://www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.WyCROC.org) . One of these years it would be great if we could get all the cars restored, running and showing up to one location, but as we all know keeping our pride and joys on the road is part of the "excitement" of ownership. To all you WyCROC'ers (and roadster world folks) that have helped get or keep our cars on the road, shown up at an event (with or without your baby), supported tech tips, parts or parts hunts, vendors, finding roadsters for sale, spreading the word helping expand the family, and keeping the best roadster web site on the net going, a great big THANKS. To the rest of the world driving those every-day dime a dozen boring, non-chromed metal heaps ... EAT OUR EXHAUST GASES !! Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Fri Oct 5 07:52:39 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:52:39 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] wow - too early in the morning Message-ID: My apologies for not running spell check on ANNIVERSARY. Don't know what an ANNIVERSAY is other than it may be an ANNIVER that you SAY. In any event, it is a wonderful world and a gorgeous day in blue sky Colorado and one of the roadsters goes for a little spin at lunch to keep everything lube'd, limber, and motorin'. Enjoying the ride, the stares, the ooh's and aah's. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From slowboy at cox.net Fri Oct 5 10:30:45 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:30:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] windshield installation References: <47059192.6040009@cox.net> Message-ID: <004401c8076d$14f7e840$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Gary, 5/16 x 24 TPI Shaft length was 1.18 inch with engaged thread area being .93 inch of that. I have these bolts in a bag with the big washers marked re-use because I was not able to find exact replacements yet. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Tew" To: "datsun list datsun" Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:21 PM Subject: [Roadsters] windshield installation > Anyone know the bolt size for the 4 bolts that secure the windshield to > the body along the sides? Update.. I installed the dash this week > along with a new dash cap from Dean. Fit and finish look great but I > didn't have those pointy screws for the dash cap install. Man, do I > wish I had them. I highly encourage you to keep your old ones if > possible or buy new ones. I used some junky ones to initially do about > every other hole. Then, I used my new ordinary screws to fill in the > remainder of the attachments and then replaced the old pointies with new > hardware. I'll have some pics on my site soon. Most of my wiring is > done. I'll be doing the center radio console after I get the windshield > installed. Cheers. > > Gary Tew > Phoenix, AZ > www.members.cox.net/garytew From 12061997 at comcast.net Fri Oct 5 11:47:23 2007 From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:47:23 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] call me Message-ID: <100520071747.8903.470678AB0004CC87000022C72205886014C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net> Hi list, Trying to contact Eric Frisbee...Lost his number and e-address. Eric, if you see this send me an e-mail.. thanks guys..bob ballinger, muncie,in 67 1600 From spl310 at hotmail.com Fri Oct 5 14:42:23 2007 From: spl310 at hotmail.com (sidney raper) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:42:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump confusion Message-ID: There have been a number of threads discussing the fuel pump removal. When Nissan designed the Roadster, the fuel pump could be removed with the engine in place, but it was TIGHT. The early fuel pumps have thin flanges and were prone to warping. A production change saw the flanges get more than twice as thick which solved the warping problem. The studs changed in length to a longer stud so that the pump could be bolted in properly. With the longer studs and the thick flange pump, it is almost (if not completely) impossible to remove the pump without lifting the engine. If you still have a thin flange pump and the short studs, you should be able to remove the pump. If you have a mixture of parts (common), then it is a crap shoot.Sidney Raper1964 1500 (still a project.... sigh....)1967 SRL311 00076 (alive again!)Jacksonville Floridahttp://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Cafi. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLt agline From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 5 15:35:45 2007 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump removal In-Reply-To: <47052BAF.20348.1DC35D9@localhost> Message-ID: <564493.15912.qm@web52806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> You know, it's funny how all these cars are a little different. I have replaced the fuel pump on my early '66 1600 and also on my '68 2000 before and never encountered a problem, at least nothing like the ones discussed here. I think these cars were just assembled, almost handmade, and nothing is exactly the same, as you would now expect with new cars. I remember putting 195 tires on my '66 that cleared fine on one side, but rubbed on the other. The joys of custom assembled cars!! Mike SC --- John F Sandhoff wrote: > > Okay, I feel silly asking this, but how the heck > does one remove > > the fuel pump from a 1600 without lifting the > engine? > > Is there an echo in here? :-) > > Enrique posted this on 15-Sep: > > === > > I postd this on 311s, but I'll post it here for > those that don't go there: > > Since my car is currently in a position to play with > this, I gave it a try > to determine if there was a simple procedure to > installing/removing the > fuel pump. After all, they must have envisioned > having to do this as part > of regular maintenance at some point. > > What I found is this: First remove the nuts holding > the fuel pump to the > block. (Question for others out there, are there > supposed to be lock > washers on this? Mine did not have any, seems the > studs are way too > short, and any longer would REALLY make removal a > royal pain.) > > Next, pull on the fuel pump till the stud flanges > just clear the studs on > the block, then you rotate the complete pump > assembly just a bit. Either > to where a line perpendicular to the top of the pump > points to the 1:30 or > the 10:30 position (if you could view it directly > from the side of the > engine block). The axis of rotation goes directly > though the center of the > bottom half of the fuel pump, side to side of the > car/block. > > Then rotate the bottom half of the pump away from > the block with the > axis of rotation being perpendicular to the position > you chose. That is > if you rotated to the 1:30 position, you would > rotate the bottom part of > the pump's body with the axis going between the > 10:30 and 4:30 points. > (Conversely, top @ 10:30 axis is at 1:30/7:30.) The > axis now goes > through the UPPER half of the pump. > > I'm trying to describe something that will be very > easy and almost > intuitive > ... once you rotate the fuel pump. > > I've done this both ways, and have NOT had to lift > or move the motor at > all. > > Re-installation is just as simple ( "Reversal of > Removal" ), except that > you first must make sure the lever that operates the > pump will insert into > the block and be above the portion of the crank that > actuates it. > > HTH > Enrique > ________________________________________ > > roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Oct 5 17:23:38 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:23:38 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump confusion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C9D5BDE4CA8C6E-C44-6C6E@webmail-mf11.sysops.aol.com> Also the later pumps have a longer foot making it harder to remove. See Rallye site for pics and explanation of rebuildable vs non rebuildable http://www.datsunroadster.com/PIC_PAGES/NEW_PARTS_PIC_PAGES/170-06.htm Linda -----Original Message----- From: sidney raper To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 1:42 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump confusion There have been a number of threads discussing the fuel pump removal. When Nissan designed the Roadster, the fuel pump could be removed with the engine in place, but it was TIGHT. The early fuel pumps have thin flanges and were prone to warping. A production change saw the flanges get more than twice as thick which solved the warping problem. The studs changed in length to a longer stud so that the pump could be bolted in properly. With the longer studs and the thick flange pump, it is almost (if not completely) impossible to remove the pump without lifting the engine. If you still have a thin flange pump and the short studs, you should be able to remove the pump. If you have a mixture of parts (common), then it is a crap shoot.Sidney Raper1964 1500 (still a project.... sigh....)1967 SRL311 00076 (alive again!)Jacksonville Floridahttp://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Oct 5 19:12:34 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:12:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Need 5 speed drive shaft. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Have sourced locally everything except for a 5 speed drive shaft - anything out there? I am departing November 7th so some level of urgency is upon me. Thanks, Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From mikep at bikeswap.com Fri Oct 5 19:13:48 2007 From: mikep at bikeswap.com (Mikep) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:13:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] What to save when scrapping body shell? Message-ID: Well, I haven't had any takers on the dirt cheap or free roadster shell and I'm getting tired of explaining how things that aren't in the pictures aren't there, so... I'm going to unbolt everything and sell or keep the smaller parts, fenders and doors. I'm going to cut it up to make smaller pieces and then recycle what I have left that's too big to store. My question is, what should I cut out of the body to save? door pillars? rocker panels? none of it? By the way it's an early '67 in Eastern Washington and is listed on craig's list as a whole and when it is cut up I'll relist the separate parts. The link to the ad with current pictures is: http://spokane.craigslist.org/car/435664523.html thanks mike From sumton at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 5 22:43:42 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 23:43:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Fuel pump removal References: <564493.15912.qm@web52806.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001401c807d3$7a1f61b0$800101df@Garage.local> just to weigh in on this topic: i have an early 67 1600 which i am restoring. after putting the engine and drivetrain back on the frame, then bolting the body on, i took the fuel pump off to clean it, put it on, then took it back off to replace it with an electric one because it didn't work, and stopped the electric pump from pumping through it. From sumton at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 5 22:46:24 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 23:46:24 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] way off topic - early ford mustangs References: <245638.85045.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002301c807d3$f54a4bc0$800101df@Garage.local> hi, all. i apologize for the ot question. my teenage daughter is longing for an early mustang. if there is an early mustang afficionado on the list, would you please contact me offline. thanks. From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com Sat Oct 6 00:45:00 2007 From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 02:45:00 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] What to save when scrapping body shell? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If the fenders and doors are good, keep them for sure as they are easy to get off. These cars eventually rot at the base of the door pillars, right around the lower access hole for the lower door hinge. If this area is solid, it wouldl be good to get the sawzall and save these. The body rails inside the engine compartment rot also, and are fairly easy to cut out and I would save these. If the rear fender lips are good, save those. The whole rear fender can be cut away at the body seam, and this makes a good place to re-weld on another car in the future. The 67 cars are pretty rare, and have the not quite so big fender flares, slightly different front fenders, etc. Heck, the whole rocker panels between the wheels would be nice to save if possible, but these pieces are big and chunky and I am not sure how many sawzall blades and attendent possible swearing it wouldl take to get them out. Just my two cents. Here on the East Coast, even in Virginia, the cars are generally rustier, and if you have some worthwhile chunks to save, it would be great to save them. Best Regards, Jim Chesapkeake Virginia >From: Mikep >To: Datsun-Roadsters List List >Subject: [Roadsters] What to save when scrapping body shell? >Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:13:48 -0700 > >Well, I haven't had any takers on the dirt cheap or free roadster >shell and I'm getting tired of explaining how things that aren't in >the pictures aren't there, so... I'm going to unbolt everything and >sell or keep the smaller parts, fenders and doors. I'm going to cut >it up to make smaller pieces and then recycle what I have left that's >too big to store. My question is, what should I cut out of the body >to save? door pillars? rocker panels? none of it? > >By the way it's an early '67 in Eastern Washington and is listed on >craig's list as a whole and when it is cut up I'll relist the >separate parts. The link to the ad with current pictures is: > >http://spokane.craigslist.org/car/435664523.html > >thanks >mike From RoadsterGB at aol.com Sat Oct 6 05:47:50 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 07:47:50 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] 67 1/2 1600 Roadster Message-ID: Many thanks to everyone who responded to my 67.5 query. My new 1600 is definitely a 67.5 I think I'm just looking for some soft top clamps and corresponding windshield hardware, plus a pair of seat covers. Any ideas? Thanks again and greetings from England. Rob From RoadsterGB at aol.com Sat Oct 6 05:48:46 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 07:48:46 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org - October Image of the Month ... Message-ID: ... is a rare colour photo of the Fairlady prototype from 1961. See _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Oct2007.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Oct2007.htm) Best from England. Rob _www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) From matthews517 at earthlink.net Sat Oct 6 07:23:31 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:23:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org - October Image of the Month ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That hood scoop is so cool! I want! Thank you for sharing the link, Rob! Hmmmm. How expensive is to have a one-off carbon fiber hood made? HAHAHAHA! Matt (and Loreli - She's a '70 Silver Solex) -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RoadsterGB at aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 7:49 AM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org - October Image of the Month ... ... is a rare colour photo of the Fairlady prototype from 1961. See _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Oct2007.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Oct2007.htm) Best from England. Rob From d-solomon at comcast.net Sat Oct 6 08:14:43 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 07:14:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Need 5 speed drive shaft. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47079853.9010209@comcast.net> I may have one. I had a "spare" included in the sale of my car.... but I'm suspicious it may actually be the 4spd version that was removed when they converted the car to 5 spd. is there an obvious difference that I can check / measure? peter harrison wrote: > Have sourced locally everything except for a 5 speed drive shaft - anything > out there? I am departing November 7th so some level of urgency is upon me. > > Thanks, > > Peter > Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From andycost at earthlink.net Sat Oct 6 08:23:57 2007 From: andycost at earthlink.net (Andy Cost) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:23:57 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Need 5 speed drive shaft. Message-ID: <5634981.1191680637686.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> The 4 speed driveshaft has a u-joint at both ends. The 5 speed driveshaft has one splined end. From horndoctor at aol.com Sat Oct 6 13:33:13 2007 From: horndoctor at aol.com (horndoctor at aol.com) Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:33:13 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Finally Have My car Listed For Sale Message-ID: <8C9D666DEE81FA5-904-573@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com> I finally got up the courage to reluctantly list my car for sale.? It is on the SF Craigslist.? I had no idea of an asking price, so I listed is at $6900...it's a place to start.? I have many more pictures, but they are large and I could only add 2 to the posting.? Please spread the word...it needs a good home, Thanks, J. R. ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From kendelmccarley at cox.net Sat Oct 6 17:10:12 2007 From: kendelmccarley at cox.net (kendelmccarley at cox.net) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 16:10:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Wiring in an electric fuel pump Message-ID: <20071006191012.7ETAD.74917.root@fed1wml25.mgt.cox.net> Okay, this was not my intention. As I remounted the mechanical pump, I could feel that it wasn't right. Did I take it back out and try again? No, of course not! Even as I continued to think it wasn't sliding on like it should, I continued to tighten down the nuts. Eventually, it broke as mechanical advantage over rode the strength of materials. Grrrr... I had an electric pump sitting around (anyone who drives British cars always has a spare electric pump sitting around) and it's now plumbed into place. I've fabricated a blocking plate for the mechanical pump location. The question is, from a guy without a wiring diagram, where's a good place to wire in the positive connection? From tputland at charter.net Sat Oct 6 18:35:56 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:35:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? Message-ID: <20071006203556.3ZS4Z.243108.root@fepweb03> Happy weekend all. Sorry for the band width here but it has been a hell of a day!!! Great day and even better weather in dairy land. Put more miles on today than this Roadster has had in years. Too bad these are most likely the last warm days we will have until next year. Oh well, I do have the tire chains (just in case I want to take a snow cruise) that Dad and I sometimes needed when we used to go skiing up in Tahoe when I was a kid...lol...just kidding when I consider using them. But I do have them if any one is in need of snow chains for a Roadster. ;-O Isn't it wild to realize that these little cars used to be daily drivers and more? And still are for some! I think Loreli for one is a daily driver if memory serves... Anyway, after running today, coming home then going back out a short time later, my 70 1600 hesitated--almost a catch and then a pause-- when I went to start her. She did start but this hesitation is new. Usually she fires right up and idles pretty smooth when warm. Any comments? Or am I just worrying needlessly? ( I worry constantly so this part is nothing new!) Hoping for more great fall weather after I get the other Roadster going so we can take them both out at eh same time before winter, Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Oct 6 20:10:53 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:10:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Finally Have My car Listed For Sale In-Reply-To: <8C9D666DEE81FA5-904-573@webmail-da12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001001c80887$4d9a3ca0$6501a8c0@xp> There are two roadsters for sale in the SF Craigslist for $6900, so it would help if you had included a link to the ad, said which city, what year and model...ya know...something... Just saying... Sorry you have to sell, but life goes on. Cheers. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of horndoctor at aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 12:33 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Finally Have My car Listed For Sale I finally got up the courage to reluctantly list my car for sale.? It is on the SF Craigslist.? I had no idea of an asking price, so I listed is at $6900...it's a place to start.? I have many more pictures, but they are large and I could only add 2 to the posting.? Please spread the word...it needs a good home, Thanks, J. R. ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ________________________________________ ppeters914 at comcast.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From fairlady66 at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 21:36:34 2007 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:36:34 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? In-Reply-To: <20071006203556.3ZS4Z.243108.root@fepweb03> References: <20071006203556.3ZS4Z.243108.root@fepweb03> Message-ID: I have a 1966 1600. When I drive for a long period, turn her off and try to start it right away. The starter only clicks. I am told it is a heat issue due to the location of the starter and exhaust. Not all of these cars do it, I have heard of a few. Mine does not always do it, but more often then not. I am told that an aluminum heart shield between the exhaust and starter should fix the problem. I am willing to give it a try. Not sure of this helps you but I thought I would throw it out there for you. If anyone has more insight I for one would be all ears. Chris On 10/6/07, tputland at charter.net wrote: > > Happy weekend all. Sorry for the band width here but it has been a hell > of a day!!! > > Great day and even better weather in dairy land. Put more miles on today > than this Roadster has had in years. Too bad these are most likely the last > warm days we will have until next year. Oh well, I do have the tire chains > (just in case I want to take a snow cruise) that Dad and I sometimes needed > when we used to go skiing up in Tahoe when I was a kid...lol...just kidding > when I consider using them. But I do have them if any one is in need of snow > chains for a Roadster. ;-O > > Isn't it wild to realize that these little cars used to be daily drivers > and more? And still are for some! I think Loreli for one is a daily driver > if memory serves... > > Anyway, after running today, coming home then going back out a short time > later, my 70 1600 hesitated--almost a catch and then a pause-- when I went > to start her. She did start but this hesitation is new. Usually she fires > right up and idles pretty smooth when warm. > > Any comments? Or am I just worrying needlessly? ( I worry constantly so > this part is nothing new!) > > Hoping for more great fall weather after I get the other Roadster going so > we can take them both out at eh same time before winter, > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > > fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one. From fairlady66 at gmail.com Sat Oct 6 21:37:47 2007 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:37:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? In-Reply-To: <20071006203556.3ZS4Z.243108.root@fepweb03> References: <20071006203556.3ZS4Z.243108.root@fepweb03> Message-ID: Did I say "Heart Shield"??? I meant Heat Shield. But what the heck if you can figure out a heart shield I will take one of them too. Chris On 10/6/07, tputland at charter.net wrote: > > Happy weekend all. Sorry for the band width here but it has been a hell > of a day!!! > > Great day and even better weather in dairy land. Put more miles on today > than this Roadster has had in years. Too bad these are most likely the last > warm days we will have until next year. Oh well, I do have the tire chains > (just in case I want to take a snow cruise) that Dad and I sometimes needed > when we used to go skiing up in Tahoe when I was a kid...lol...just kidding > when I consider using them. But I do have them if any one is in need of snow > chains for a Roadster. ;-O > > Isn't it wild to realize that these little cars used to be daily drivers > and more? And still are for some! I think Loreli for one is a daily driver > if memory serves... > > Anyway, after running today, coming home then going back out a short time > later, my 70 1600 hesitated--almost a catch and then a pause-- when I went > to start her. She did start but this hesitation is new. Usually she fires > right up and idles pretty smooth when warm. > > Any comments? Or am I just worrying needlessly? ( I worry constantly so > this part is nothing new!) > > Hoping for more great fall weather after I get the other Roadster going so > we can take them both out at eh same time before winter, > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > > fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one. From matthews517 at earthlink.net Sun Oct 7 09:34:20 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:34:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? In-Reply-To: <20071006203556.3ZS4Z.243108.root@fepweb03> Message-ID: Hi Tim, I've had similar hesitation issues with Loreli occasionally. It seems that some others have too. She will turn over and will start after a long drive, but she strains at first. The prior owner installed a heat blanket around the starter. Maybe that helps some. She is a daily driver. She's my only car so she's a grocery getter, pleasure driver, stress reliever, CONVERSATION STARTER, female attracter (Especially when my hound dog Tater is in the passenger seat), and twisty road straightener! :-) Fortunately, it snows VERY rarely here in Chattanooga, TN. When it does, we stay home. They do salt the roads occasionally during the winter and I won't subject her to THAT particular abuse! Here's to more warm days! Matt Smith (and Loreli - She's a '70 Silver Solex) Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? Isn't it wild to realize that these little cars used to be daily drivers and more? And still are for some! I think Loreli for one is a daily driver if memory serves... Anyway, after running today, coming home then going back out a short time later, my 70 1600 hesitated--almost a catch and then a pause-- when I went to start her. She did start but this hesitation is new. Usually she fires right up and idles pretty smooth when warm. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Oct 7 10:58:41 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 09:58:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Window Channel (Anti Rattle) - Improvement suggestion - preventative. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Eliza, even though they were new (NOS) both the lower brackets on the rear channels snapped. Too much stress I suppose (possibly faulty installation). And in any case a sucky design (IMHO) Anyhoo, I JB welded a 1/4 inch square piece of steel bar into the bend (joint) and it seems to have strengthened it immeasurably. Flexing (if any) now occurs away from the bend. I have only put the driver side back together and it closes with a VERY satisfying 'thunk', almost as good as a Rolls. No rattle, just the sound of the door lock engaging.\ Just a thort. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From matthews517 at earthlink.net Sun Oct 7 12:19:46 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:19:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Engine Swaps - (hypothetical at this point) Message-ID: Hi everyone, I started thinking about a swap. I'd like to hear opinions on various types of swaps. KA24 (turbo or not), SR20 (turbo or not), RB26DETT (HAHAHAHA! 700HP. RIGHT!!!!! How bout just mounting a rocket to my roll bar!?!?!?), someone in the South who can actually DO this (though I'd like to do some/all of the work myself), other hints/tips/inspirations? Any info y'all can offer would be appreciated. Ease of installation, necessary modifications to existing frame/body (of a '70 2000), problems inherent with the engines or swaps, price vs. power, cost of engine rebuild (as it will likely come from a used car), would it be better to purchase a complete 240SX with a LOT of miles and an already rebuilt engine then part out the leftovers of the car, etc. I figured this info may also be helpful to others with the same crazy ideas. I would like more power :-), however, reliability is a must. Thank you! Matt Smith (and Loreli - she's a '70 Silver Solex) From fairlady66 at gmail.com Sun Oct 7 14:31:05 2007 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:31:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? In-Reply-To: References: <20071006203556.3ZS4Z.243108.root@fepweb03> Message-ID: I was thinking about the heat blanket idea, but then I was taught differently. The heat blanket being wrapped around the starter will hold the heat in as well. An aluminum shield will block some of the heat and will allow a flow of air around it to the starter as well. On 10/7/07, Matthew A. Smith wrote: > > Hi Tim, > I've had similar hesitation issues with Loreli occasionally. It seems that > some others have too. She will turn over and will start after a long > drive, > but she strains at first. The prior owner installed a heat blanket around > the starter. Maybe that helps some. > She is a daily driver. She's my only car so she's a grocery getter, > pleasure > driver, stress reliever, CONVERSATION STARTER, female attracter > (Especially > when my hound dog Tater is in the passenger seat), and twisty road > straightener! :-) Fortunately, it snows VERY rarely here in Chattanooga, > TN. > When it does, we stay home. They do salt the roads occasionally during the > winter and I won't subject her to THAT particular abuse! > Here's to more warm days! > Matt Smith > (and Loreli - She's a '70 Silver Solex) > > Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? > > Isn't it wild to realize that these little cars used to be daily drivers > and > more? And still are for some! I think Loreli for one is a daily driver if > memory serves... > > Anyway, after running today, coming home then going back out a short time > later, my 70 1600 hesitated--almost a catch and then a pause-- when I went > to start her. She did start but this hesitation is new. Usually she fires > right up and idles pretty smooth when warm. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > > fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one. From drlsmith at dccnet.com Sun Oct 7 16:29:09 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:29:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Die Grinder? Recommendations? Message-ID: <008b01c80931$7b4cb010$a935cf18@Daryl> Looking at buying a die grinder for head and manifold porting and cleanup. Looking at probably a medium or heavy duty as this will be ongoing work, but not daily, for several cars, and with any luck for several years. Electric? Air? (have a 5hp 60 gal air compressor) Brand? I like the idea of electric, and not having to worry about the air supply, but am unsure of any other disadvantages, or advantages of the air grinder.....???? Costs? I looked at some small air die grinders that ranged in price from about $40 to $180.... wasn't able to locate any electric ones to compare. Thanks Daryl From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Oct 7 21:19:48 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 20:19:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] A) Buy B) Borrow Message-ID: Buy) To emulate Gordon, looking for 2 'core' bumpers (almost any condition - other than rotted) - don't want to use mine cos it is in great shape Borrow) STRAIGHT 1600 grille to use as a template for 'straightening' mine' Condition NOT important but it MUST be TOTALLY STRAIGHT. Will pay for shipping both ways, plus a 6-pak or whatever. (or a photograph of my new vents Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From racery at comcast.net Sun Oct 7 22:46:05 2007 From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:46:05 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] hard hot starting Message-ID: <100820070446.25032.4709B60D0008090A000061C82205886442979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> One thing to check with a hard 'warm' restart is that the carb float valves are doing their jobs. It's pretty common for worn valves to seep a little- so as the car sits, hot, the bowl overfills and floods the carb with the residual fuel pressure from the mechanical pump. An electric pump that doesn't maintain residual pressure won't do this... fwiw, Toby From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Oct 8 00:06:54 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:06:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Engine Swaps - (hypothetical at this point) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001001c80971$706571b0$6501a8c0@xp> Check out the Engine Swap forum and tech info on 311s.org. All of this is discussed thoroughly including an excellent how-to w/ pics on a SR20. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 11:20 AM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Engine Swaps - (hypothetical at this point) Hi everyone, I started thinking about a swap. I'd like to hear opinions on various types of swaps. KA24 (turbo or not), SR20 (turbo or not), RB26DETT (HAHAHAHA! 700HP. RIGHT!!!!! How bout just mounting a rocket to my roll bar!?!?!?), someone in the South who can actually DO this (though I'd like to do some/all of the work myself), other hints/tips/inspirations? Any info y'all can offer would be appreciated. Ease of installation, necessary modifications to existing frame/body (of a '70 2000), problems inherent with the engines or swaps, price vs. power, cost of engine rebuild (as it will likely come from a used car), would it be better to purchase a complete 240SX with a LOT of miles and an already rebuilt engine then part out the leftovers of the car, etc. I figured this info may also be helpful to others with the same crazy ideas. I would like more power :-), however, reliability is a must. Thank you! Matt Smith (and Loreli - she's a '70 Silver Solex) Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Mon Oct 8 05:25:55 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 4:25:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? Revisited In-Reply-To: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A25706B@sbs.jdfogg.com> Message-ID: <20071008072555.1X2OT.279891.root@fepweb05> Thanks to all who replied. Unfortunately I didn't have a chance to check any thing this weekend after everyone replied. But let me expand on my first post. When trying to start after a long drive, the engine doesn't crank and turn trying to start--what would seem a fuel issue.... Just the opposite. It will crank once then hesitate/stick for a beat or two, then crank and then start. It is this hesitation/stick that I am wondering about. The thermal expansion James mentioned makes sense to me. But I don't think (hope) it is borderline over heating as the cooling system, including radiator and water pump, etc. is all new---well, less than 500 miles. More thoughts? Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- James Fogg wrote: > > Anyway, after running today, coming home then going back out > > a short time later, my 70 1600 hesitated--almost a catch and > > then a pause-- when I went to start her. She did start but > > this hesitation is new. Usually she fires right up and idles > > pretty smooth when warm. > > > > Any comments? Or am I just worrying needlessly? ( I worry > > constantly so this part is nothing new!) > > If the starter motor gets very hot (from the exhaust in most cars, V8's > especially) their internal resistance changes and they draw a lot more > current, they appear "weaker". Alternatively, sometimes a hot engine can > be "tight" from thermal expansion (or borderline overheating without > indicating such). Also, sometimes fuel vapor will condense in the > cylinders, or oil can weep down past the valve guides, and introduce a > small amount of hydrostatic lock (increase in compression ratio) for the > first rotation. It's also possible that your battery isn't charging and > you got lucky with a successful start. > > Or, it may be nothing. From bradlustig at earthlink.net Mon Oct 8 06:17:08 2007 From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:17:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? Revisited In-Reply-To: <20071008072555.1X2OT.279891.root@fepweb05> References: <20071008072555.1X2OT.279891.root@fepweb05> Message-ID: <470A1FC4.5080403@earthlink.net> Dying battery? Battery cables old and/or corroded, loose connections? I was going to say overheated coil before this post. Have you tried push starting it? May help rule out the starter without removing it and bench-testing. Brad Mt Pleasant, SC tputland at charter.net wrote: > Thanks to all who replied. Unfortunately I didn't have a chance to check any thing this weekend after everyone replied. > > But let me expand on my first post. When trying to start after a long drive, the engine doesn't crank and turn trying to start--what would seem a fuel issue.... Just the opposite. It will crank once then hesitate/stick for a beat or two, then crank and then start. It is this hesitation/stick that I am wondering about. > > The thermal expansion James mentioned makes sense to me. But I don't think (hope) it is borderline over heating as the cooling system, including radiator and water pump, etc. is all new---well, less than 500 miles. > > More thoughts? > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning From reblues at reblues.net Mon Oct 8 07:23:16 2007 From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:23:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? References: <20071006203556.3ZS4Z.243108.root@fepweb03> Message-ID: <014101c809ae$63b69a10$6701a8c0@ACER4230> I have had that starting problem before. I went several month parking on slopes or leaving room to do a push start. Get it rolling, hop in and hit the key. It turned out to be the ground strap from the starter to the frame. I sanded the area on the frame, tightened all the connections and it helped. The final fix was repairing the cable itself. The cable inside the connector had become corroded. I crimped on a new connector and the problem was fixed. Richard ----- Original Me ----- From: To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? > Happy weekend all. Sorry for the band width here but it has been a hell > of a day!!! > > Great day and even better weather in dairy land. Put more miles on today > than this Roadster has had in years. Too bad these are most likely the > last warm days we will have until next year. Oh well, I do have the tire > chains (just in case I want to take a snow cruise) that Dad and I > sometimes needed when we used to go skiing up in Tahoe when I was a > kid...lol...just kidding when I consider using them. But I do have them if > any one is in need of snow chains for a Roadster. ;-O > > Isn't it wild to realize that these little cars used to be daily drivers > and more? And still are for some! I think Loreli for one is a daily driver > if memory serves... > > Anyway, after running today, coming home then going back out a short time > later, my 70 1600 hesitated--almost a catch and then a pause-- when I went > to start her. She did start but this hesitation is new. Usually she fires > right up and idles pretty smooth when warm. > > Any comments? Or am I just worrying needlessly? ( I worry constantly so > this part is nothing new!) > > Hoping for more great fall weather after I get the other Roadster going so > we can take them both out at eh same time before winter, > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > > reblues at reblues.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Mon Oct 8 08:43:08 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:43:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? In-Reply-To: <014101c809ae$63b69a10$6701a8c0@ACER4230> Message-ID: Hi Richard, Glad you were able to fix it! At 6'1" 260lbs, "hopping in" isn't an option for me! HAHAHAHA! Matt Smith -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Brown Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 9:23 AM To: tputland at charter.net; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tough to start? I have had that starting problem before. I went several month parking on slopes or leaving room to do a push start. Get it rolling, hop in and hit the key. It turned out to be the ground strap from the starter to the frame. I sanded the area on the frame, tightened all the connections and it helped. The final fix was repairing the cable itself. The cable inside the connector had become corroded. I crimped on a new connector and the problem was fixed. Richard ----- Original Me ----- From: To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 8:35 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? > Happy weekend all. Sorry for the band width here but it has been a hell > of a day!!! > > Great day and even better weather in dairy land. Put more miles on today > than this Roadster has had in years. Too bad these are most likely the > last warm days we will have until next year. Oh well, I do have the tire > chains (just in case I want to take a snow cruise) that Dad and I > sometimes needed when we used to go skiing up in Tahoe when I was a > kid...lol...just kidding when I consider using them. But I do have them if > any one is in need of snow chains for a Roadster. ;-O > > Isn't it wild to realize that these little cars used to be daily drivers > and more? And still are for some! I think Loreli for one is a daily driver > if memory serves... > > Anyway, after running today, coming home then going back out a short time > later, my 70 1600 hesitated--almost a catch and then a pause-- when I went > to start her. She did start but this hesitation is new. Usually she fires > right up and idles pretty smooth when warm. > > Any comments? Or am I just worrying needlessly? ( I worry constantly so > this part is nothing new!) > > Hoping for more great fall weather after I get the other Roadster going so > we can take them both out at eh same time before winter, > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > > reblues at reblues.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Mon Oct 8 08:48:24 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:48:24 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Engine Swaps - (hypothetical at this point) In-Reply-To: <001001c80971$706571b0$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: Thank you Pete, SlowBoy, etc., I have now been sufficiently admonished for not checking 311s.org first by several folks. My only defense is that I suffer from BFS (brain-fart syndrome). Have a GREAT week! I'm going to start pricing parts. Matt Smith -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:07 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine Swaps - (hypothetical at this point) Check out the Engine Swap forum and tech info on 311s.org. All of this is discussed thoroughly including an excellent how-to w/ pics on a SR20. Pete From RWM at RWMann.com Mon Oct 8 08:56:09 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 10:56:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Tough to start? Revisited In-Reply-To: <470A1FC4.5080403@earthlink.net> References: <20071008072555.1X2OT.279891.root@fepweb05> <470A1FC4.5080403@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <470A4509.4040802@RWMann.com> Lucas design solenoid starters are well known for overheating and hot start performance problems. The TSI gear reduction starter, while a bit bulkier (still fits), has an air core, cools better, and does not in my experience exhibit this problem. Along with Gary Boone's electronic distributor, a TSI gear reduction starter is one of those "I wish I had known sooner" upgrades. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Brad Lustig wrote: >Dying battery? Battery cables old and/or corroded, loose connections? >I was going to say overheated coil before this post. Have you tried >push starting it? May help rule out the starter without removing it and >bench-testing. > >Brad >Mt Pleasant, SC > >tputland at charter.net wrote: > > >>Thanks to all who replied. Unfortunately I didn't have a chance to check any thing this weekend after everyone replied. >> >>But let me expand on my first post. When trying to start after a long drive, the engine doesn't crank and turn trying to start--what would seem a fuel issue.... Just the opposite. It will crank once then hesitate/stick for a beat or two, then crank and then start. It is this hesitation/stick that I am wondering about. >> >>The thermal expansion James mentioned makes sense to me. But I don't think (hope) it is borderline over heating as the cooling system, including radiator and water pump, etc. is all new---well, less than 500 miles. >> >>More thoughts? >> >>Tim >>Belleville, WI. >>'70 SPL AND SRL >>Still clueless but always learning From msedlack at neo.rr.com Mon Oct 8 09:06:20 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:06:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes Message-ID: <002a01c809bc$c8f8cf70$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Finally got around to taking some pics of the stripes I put on the "R". http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm Still have to finish the AL door panels, but other things are taking priority....like driving it a lot this summer, and doing some much needed maintainence on the Z. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ From horndoctor at aol.com Mon Oct 8 09:19:11 2007 From: horndoctor at aol.com (horndoctor at aol.com) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:19:11 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Finally Have Car Listed For Sale... Message-ID: <8C9D7D5B6A83561-208-13E2@mblk-d36.sysops.aol.com> OOps about the lack of info on finding my car on Craigslist...It's listed on the San Francisco page, but city listed as location is Modesto...the car is a '68 2000...lavender in color. Thanks for the heads up, J. R. ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 8 09:25:50 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Finally Have Car Listed For Sale... In-Reply-To: <8C9D7D5B6A83561-208-13E2@mblk-d36.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <587139.35490.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The color alone is worth a look! Gary McCormick San Jose, CA ' 70 2000 SRL311-13291 horndoctor at aol.com wrote: OOps about the lack of info on finding my car on Craigslist...It's listed on the San Francisco page, but city listed as location is Modesto...the car is a '68 2000...lavender in color. Thanks for the heads up, J. R. From d-solomon at comcast.net Mon Oct 8 10:07:55 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:07:55 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes Message-ID: <100820071607.28308.470A55DB000E16EA00006E9422069984990201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> Wow! that looks GREAT! good job. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Mark Sedlack" > Finally got around to taking some pics of the stripes I put on the "R". > > http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm > > Still have to finish the AL door panels, but other things are taking > priority....like driving it a lot this summer, and doing some much needed > maintainence on the Z. > > Mark Sedlack > ZROC > Cuyahoga Falls OH > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sales at foilgraphics.com Mon Oct 8 11:00:20 2007 From: sales at foilgraphics.com (Guy) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:00:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes References: <002a01c809bc$c8f8cf70$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Message-ID: <008201c809cc$b6dec410$6e01a8c0@sales2006> Mark, I love the look. Where does one get the hood loovers. I have played around with the idea of pressing some into my hood But don't know where to obtain the service. I live in the Phoenix area. Any suggestions? Guy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sedlack" To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes > Finally got around to taking some pics of the stripes I put on the "R". > > http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm > > Still have to finish the AL door panels, but other things are taking > priority....like driving it a lot this summer, and doing some much needed > maintainence on the Z. > > Mark Sedlack > ZROC > Cuyahoga Falls OH > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > ________________________________________ > > sales at foilgraphics.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Mon Oct 8 11:13:02 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:13:02 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes In-Reply-To: <008201c809cc$b6dec410$6e01a8c0@sales2006> Message-ID: <20071008131302.N9S1R.298225.root@fepweb05> Reply to the list please. I like this look as well. Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Guy wrote: > Mark, > I love the look. Where does one get the hood loovers. I have played around > with the idea of pressing some into my hood But don't know where to obtain > the service. I live in the Phoenix area. Any suggestions? > Guy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Sedlack" > To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)" > > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:06 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes > > > > Finally got around to taking some pics of the stripes I put on the "R". > > > > http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm > > > > Still have to finish the AL door panels, but other things are taking > > priority....like driving it a lot this summer, and doing some much needed > > maintainence on the Z. > > > > Mark Sedlack > > ZROC > > Cuyahoga Falls OH > > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > > ________________________________________ > > > > sales at foilgraphics.com From bradlustig at earthlink.net Mon Oct 8 11:15:23 2007 From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:15:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes In-Reply-To: <470A64DE.3030604@earthlink.net> References: <002a01c809bc$c8f8cf70$6501a8c0@p428ghz> <008201c809cc$b6dec410$6e01a8c0@sales2006> <470A64DE.3030604@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <470A65AB.9050905@earthlink.net> I don't want to speak for Mark, but they look like the louvers that are in the z cars. If you want them pressed in, then check some hot rod shops in your area. I'm sure they could point you in the right direction. Probably going to be much cheaper to put in some existing louvers than to pay to have them pressed in. Brad Guy wrote: Mark, I love the look. Where does one get the hood loovers. I have played around with the idea of pressing some into my hood But don't know where to obtain the service. I live in the Phoenix area. Any suggestions? Guy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sedlack" To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes Finally got around to taking some pics of the stripes I put on the "R". http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm Still have to finish the AL door panels, but other things are taking priority....like driving it a lot this summer, and doing some much needed maintainence on the Z. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ________________________________________ sales at foilgraphics.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ bradlustig at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Oct 8 11:22:46 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:22:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gear reduction starter (was "RE: Tough to start? Revisited") In-Reply-To: <470A4509.4040802@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <002301c809cf$db02e760$6501a8c0@xp> I'd start w/ the starter to frame ground strap: and then double-check the other cables. If you think it's the starter, the TSI gear reduction starter is available from Ted and Dean: The starter for the H20 bolts right up, and should be available from any Nissan forklift parts company. Someone else reports that "the later model Datsun L18 and L24 starter can be rotated to the left side, and will bolt up to the roadster engine. The frame has to be notched slightly for clearance. Hope this helps. Pete From msedlack at neo.rr.com Mon Oct 8 11:33:25 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:33:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes References: <002a01c809bc$c8f8cf70$6501a8c0@p428ghz> <008201c809cc$b6dec410$6e01a8c0@sales2006> Message-ID: <007f01c809d1$54e7a060$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Look for a metal fabricator / auto customizer or restoration / hotrod shop in the yellow pages, or go to some local cruise-ins and ask the hotrod guys. The guy who did mine has a complete metal fab shop, complete with english wheel, planishing hammmer, etc. Last car he finished was a '54 Bentley - had to make a rear quarter from scratch. He charged me $2 a louver for both the hood and fenders. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy" To: "Mark Sedlack" ; "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stripes > Mark, > I love the look. Where does one get the hood loovers. I have played around > with the idea of pressing some into my hood But don't know where to obtain > the service. I live in the Phoenix area. Any suggestions? > Guy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Sedlack" > To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)" > > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:06 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes > > > > Finally got around to taking some pics of the stripes I put on the "R". > > > > http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm > > > > Still have to finish the AL door panels, but other things are taking > > priority....like driving it a lot this summer, and doing some much needed > > maintainence on the Z. > > > > Mark Sedlack > > ZROC > > Cuyahoga Falls OH > > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > > ________________________________________ > > > > sales at foilgraphics.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sales at foilgraphics.com Mon Oct 8 11:42:33 2007 From: sales at foilgraphics.com (Guy) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:42:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes References: <002a01c809bc$c8f8cf70$6501a8c0@p428ghz> <008201c809cc$b6dec410$6e01a8c0@sales2006> <007f01c809d1$54e7a060$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Message-ID: <00d101c809d2$9ef72bc0$6e01a8c0@sales2006> Thank you, That seems to be a very reasonable price. I will check it out. Guy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sedlack" To: "Guy" ; "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stripes > Look for a metal fabricator / auto customizer or restoration / hotrod shop > in the yellow pages, or go to some local cruise-ins and ask the hotrod > guys. > The guy who did mine has a complete metal fab shop, complete with english > wheel, planishing hammmer, etc. Last car he finished was a '54 Bentley - > had to make a rear quarter from scratch. > He charged me $2 a louver for both the hood and fenders. > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Guy" > To: "Mark Sedlack" ; "Datsun Roadster Mailing List > (E-mail)" > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stripes > > >> Mark, >> I love the look. Where does one get the hood loovers. I have played > around >> with the idea of pressing some into my hood But don't know where to >> obtain >> the service. I live in the Phoenix area. Any suggestions? >> Guy >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark Sedlack" >> To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)" >> >> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:06 AM >> Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes >> >> >> > Finally got around to taking some pics of the stripes I put on the "R". >> > >> > http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm >> > >> > Still have to finish the AL door panels, but other things are taking >> > priority....like driving it a lot this summer, and doing some much > needed >> > maintainence on the Z. >> > >> > Mark Sedlack >> > ZROC >> > Cuyahoga Falls OH >> > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ >> > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ >> > ________________________________________ >> > >> > sales at foilgraphics.com >> > >> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> > >> > http://www.team.net/archive >> > >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From RWM at RWMann.com Mon Oct 8 11:49:39 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:49:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes In-Reply-To: <007f01c809d1$54e7a060$6501a8c0@p428ghz> References: <002a01c809bc$c8f8cf70$6501a8c0@p428ghz> <008201c809cc$b6dec410$6e01a8c0@sales2006> <007f01c809d1$54e7a060$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Message-ID: <470A6DB3.6030603@RWMann.com> Wow, that seems like an incredible bargain for exacting work, not to mention the setup requirements. Sure, once set up, you can bang them out, but still. Mark Sedlack wrote: Look for a metal fabricator / auto customizer or restoration / hotrod shop in the yellow pages, or go to some local cruise-ins and ask the hotrod guys. The guy who did mine has a complete metal fab shop, complete with english wheel, planishing hammmer, etc. Last car he finished was a '54 Bentley - had to make a rear quarter from scratch. He charged me $2 a louver for both the hood and fenders. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy" To: "Mark Sedlack" ; "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stripes Mark, I love the look. Where does one get the hood loovers. I have played around with the idea of pressing some into my hood But don't know where to obtain the service. I live in the Phoenix area. Any suggestions? Guy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sedlack" To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes Finally got around to taking some pics of the stripes I put on the "R". http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm Still have to finish the AL door panels, but other things are taking priority....like driving it a lot this summer, and doing some much needed maintainence on the Z. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ From msedlack at neo.rr.com Mon Oct 8 12:02:57 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:02:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Louvers ( was stripes) References: <002a01c809bc$c8f8cf70$6501a8c0@p428ghz><008201c809cc$b6dec410$6e01a8c0@sales2006><007f01c809d1$54e7a060$6501a8c0@p428ghz> <470A6DB3.6030603@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <009101c809d5$7565a9a0$6501a8c0@p428ghz> The shop I used has a single purpose louver press - a mechanical, toggle arm punch press with sets of different length matching top and bottom dies. The die sets pin into place and are interchangeable. Only setup is to install the dies for the size louver the customer wants, and to draw layout lines and spacing ticks on the sheetmetal - of course the operator's experience come into play in placing the louvers accurately. Definitely an old school skill. When I dropped off my parts, he showed me a panel he had just finished for an ambulance - flat panel with over 200 louvers......said his arm was aching.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" To: Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stripes > Wow, that seems like an incredible bargain for exacting work, not to > mention the setup requirements. Sure, once set up, you can bang them > out, but still. > > Mark Sedlack wrote: > > Look for a metal fabricator / auto customizer or restoration / hotrod shop > in the yellow pages, or go to some local cruise-ins and ask the hotrod guys. > The guy who did mine has a complete metal fab shop, complete with english > wheel, planishing hammmer, etc. Last car he finished was a '54 Bentley - > had to make a rear quarter from scratch. > He charged me $2 a louver for both the hood and fenders. > Mark > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Guy" > To: "Mark Sedlack" ; "Datsun Roadster Mailing List > (E-mail)" > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 1:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Stripes > > Mark, > I love the look. Where does one get the hood loovers. I have played > > around > > with the idea of pressing some into my hood But don't know where to obtain > the service. I live in the Phoenix area. Any suggestions? > Guy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Sedlack" > To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)" > > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 8:06 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] Stripes > > Finally got around to taking some pics of the stripes I put on the "R". > > http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/yipes_stripes.htm > > Still have to finish the AL door panels, but other things are taking > priority....like driving it a lot this summer, and doing some much > > needed > > maintainence on the Z. > > Mark Sedlack > ZROC > Cuyahoga Falls OH > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ > ________________________________________ > > msedlack at neo.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Mon Oct 8 12:08:18 2007 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 11:08:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Parts car in Spokane Message-ID: I accidentally deleted the link to the Craig's List ad for the Roadster parts car. There's a part there that I need. Please email with the link if anybody still has it, or email me off list if it's your parts car. Thanks, Greg SRL31100494 "Roadstering since '75" From tom at datsun2000.com Mon Oct 8 12:16:09 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:16:09 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Parts car in Spokane In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Greg, Mike also asked NOWROC to host a few pix of the car in the hopes someone would take it off of his hands. The web page is: http://www.nowroc.org/Classifieds.htm Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.nowroc.org http://www.datsun2000.com -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:08 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Parts car in Spokane I accidentally deleted the link to the Craig's List ad for the Roadster parts car. There's a part there that I need. Please email with the link if anybody still has it, or email me off list if it's your parts car. Thanks, Greg SRL31100494 "Roadstering since '75" ________________________________________ tom at datsun2000.com From jklingman at stny.rr.com Mon Oct 8 12:45:32 2007 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:45:32 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Happy Canadian Thanksgiving Message-ID: <000801c809db$68173ba0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Just wishing all the roadster folks in Canada a Happy Thanksgiving. Mark, those are awesome stripes. Been out in Spike ( '68 2000) enjoying the 80 degree temps here in upstate NY. heading up to VT to run Rt 100. Plotting out a roadster run for next year along that road. Suggestions are welcome. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Oct 8 12:59:52 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:59:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Parts car in Spokane In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003201c809dd$6bc871e0$6501a8c0@xp> Here's the craigslist ad: -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tom @ Datsun2000 Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:16 AM To: Gregory S. Morrison; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Parts car in Spokane Greg, Mike also asked NOWROC to host a few pix of the car in the hopes someone would take it off of his hands. The web page is: http://www.nowroc.org/Classifieds.htm Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.nowroc.org http://www.datsun2000.com -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 11:08 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Parts car in Spokane I accidentally deleted the link to the Craig's List ad for the Roadster parts car. There's a part there that I need. Please email with the link if anybody still has it, or email me off list if it's your parts car. Thanks, Greg SRL31100494 "Roadstering since '75" ________________________________________ tom at datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roadster68 at shaw.ca Mon Oct 8 16:12:38 2007 From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:12:38 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Happy Canadian Thanksgiving References: <000801c809db$68173ba0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Message-ID: <003301c809f8$5648cc50$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp> Hello John, And thanks for the greetings. I has been a bit cool here in Calgary, Alberta(western Canada). Still I took the beast (as yet unnamed) out for two short rides yesterday. Take care! Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Klingman" To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:45 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Happy Canadian Thanksgiving > Just wishing all the roadster folks in Canada a Happy Thanksgiving. > Mark, those are awesome stripes. Been out in Spike ( '68 2000) enjoying > the > 80 degree temps here in upstate NY. heading up to VT to run Rt 100. > Plotting > out a roadster run for next year along that road. Suggestions are welcome. > Gloria and John Klingman > Sidney, NY '68 2000 > ________________________________________ > > roadster68 at shaw.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mtbdavid2 at aol.com Mon Oct 8 16:26:50 2007 From: mtbdavid2 at aol.com (mtbdavid2 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:26:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Timing chain rattle at start up (death rattle) Message-ID: <8C9D81174B68B33-F00-31D2@Webmail-mg16.sysops.aol.com> Hi, ? I had another non-rebuilt?2liter motor dropped into my '68 2000.? I ended up using my original head which has been rebuilt (shaved and cam towers shimmed with B cam).? I went to pick up the car today?from the shop which installed the motor and noticed when I started the car the dreaded death rattle.? I had the shop pull?the valve cover and sure enough the timing chaining is eating into the timing chain hanger when I start the car.? After startup the rattle goes away, I suppose it gets enough oil pressure after starting to keep the chain off the hanger.? Is there any quick fixes to keep more tension on the chain when the motor is not running?? I may have been hallucinating but I thought I had seen a tie wrap on the tensioner to keep the tensioner out when the motor is not running.? This was on my rebuilt head with the original motor.? There isn't a tie wrap on there now.? I am looking for the easiest, cheapest fix to get by for a year or so.? I already spent too much money buying the used motor and having the motor installed. Thanks, David ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Mon Oct 8 17:08:42 2007 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:08:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS 2007 Pics!!! Message-ID: <01a201c80a00$2b6e3620$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> Here are my pics/write-up for this weekend's Japansese Classic Car Show in Long Beach, CA. http://community.webshots.com/user/alving043 We left for Long Beach from San Jose in a 15passenger van. Stayed aboard the Queen Mary Friday night in a room with fake windows. Highlights from the show: Captain Ron leads the pack: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2129473780102308741MgANmp Finally saw "Bob" in person, Michael you do brilliant work! Clean, clean. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2991342290102308741QccAHb Ron's 1600 with a nice red interior and mini-lites! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2743209630102308741injiMZ The man, the myth, the legend. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2051966000102308741qRKjBz Not in the show but an interesting roadster with an SR20ET, rear disc brakes, funky tail light treatment: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2732116050102308741RfqBnu Stunning Skylines in 2/4 doors trims: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2060096360102308741OOcjQJ and this little beastie, a Hayabusa powered, rwd, engine by the side Honda! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2645788150102308741wOWODc A REALLY old Datsun: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2417341680102308741ZuWsNM This Nice Turbo'd SR20 with a 510 around it :D http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2381008820102308741RiAEV It was a great show, not enough time to see everything but when you attract celebrities from around the world the show is doing something right! Check my other post for our Sunday at Coronodo wth Ron Carter racing. From gsglasgow at comcast.net Mon Oct 8 18:28:18 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:28:18 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Timing chain rattle at start up (death rattle) In-Reply-To: <8C9D81174B68B33-F00-31D2@Webmail-mg16.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Shim the tensioner. http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Evil_L.asp Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of mtbdavid2 at aol.com > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:27 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Timing chain rattle at start up (death rattle) > > > Hi, > ? I had another non-rebuilt?2liter motor dropped into my '68 > 2000.? I ended up using my original head which has been rebuilt > (shaved and cam towers shimmed with B cam).? I went to pick up > the car today?from the shop which installed the motor and noticed > when I started the car the dreaded death rattle.? I had the shop > pull?the valve cover and sure enough the timing chaining is > eating into the timing chain hanger when I start the car.? After > startup the rattle goes away, I suppose it gets enough oil > pressure after starting to keep the chain off the hanger.? > > Is there any quick fixes to keep more tension on the chain when > the motor is not running?? I may have been hallucinating but I > thought I had seen a tie wrap on the tensioner to keep the > tensioner out when the motor is not running.? This was on my > rebuilt head with the original motor.? There isn't a tie wrap on > there now.? I am looking for the easiest, cheapest fix to get by > for a year or so.? I already spent too much money buying the used > motor and having the motor installed. > > Thanks, > David From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Mon Oct 8 17:35:01 2007 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:35:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Coronodo Speed Festival Pics/vids!!! Message-ID: <01cc01c80a03$d8a2b2a0$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> After the JCCS show we drove down to San Diego to cheer Ron Carter on as he raced his 67 SRL at the Coronodo Speed festival. This was a very special event since it the first time 10 years that a Datsun has been invited to run! The event is held at the naval base on Coronodo Island, a beautiful place! Here are my pics: http://rides.webshots.com/album/560979028ghVwsj http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2584694860102308741IsLOEd http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2973838990102308741VIlzoQ Ron Carter and Tim Arnett and (help me Ron) http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2796233460102308741NHnjyW http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2135499040102308741mPLKsF Ron was graciously offered us drinks and red vines at his trailer while we chatted. He then proceeded to show the crowd that Datsuns are driven! Here a few video clips I took of Ron: In traffic: http://videos.streetfire.net/video/73fe63f0-b0dd-4167-bf0d-99c101326c62.htm Ron squeezes by an Alfa on the very last lap, they were fast! http://videos.streetfire.net/video/3417531e-f717-4067-aab0-99c101244814.htm Some highlights from the car corral b/c it was a car show! The Sora Blue 1500...the owner was a story in itself. A long one too. in short: Stunning car. No frame-off. 25k "original" mileage claimed. She says she turned $80k down for it and she's taking it to Barret-Jackson where she was told it would bring $200k. Complete crackhead. She wasted 20minutes of our time. Very weird! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2103855650102308741fSNkrF Tim Miner!! http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2411692060102308741XOfACk Gorgeous Impala: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2511121800102308741EaQyEx From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Mon Oct 8 18:18:53 2007 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:18:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide Message-ID: <024b01c80a09$f9960100$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2666060500102308741QZlUtJ Not sure if people know but Hemmings has a buyer's guide and they even mention 311s.org in it along with our favorite vendors!!!! From ljordan704 at netscape.net Mon Oct 8 18:29:19 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:29:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide In-Reply-To: <024b01c80a09$f9960100$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> References: <024b01c80a09$f9960100$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> Message-ID: <8C9D82290EDD44C-848-20BF@FWM-D35.sysops.aol.com> The car in the photos was at JCCS, according to the people passing out Hemmings magazine free at the event. I think it was the Classic Datsun restoration. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Alvin Gogineni To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 5:18 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2666060500102308741QZlUtJ Not sure if people know but Hemmings has a buyer's guide and they even mention 311s.org in it along with our favorite vendors!!!! ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From RHCsports at aol.com Mon Oct 8 20:01:57 2007 From: RHCsports at aol.com (RHCsports at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:01:57 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide Message-ID: Actually, The Roadster in the Hemmings mag belongs to a gentleman in the midwest. It was Tim Miner's very first Roadster that he sold 25 years ago. Tim says the pics don't do it justice. Ron ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From aultgc at jorsm.com Sun Oct 7 13:59:11 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:59:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Need 5 speed drive shaft. References: <47079853.9010209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <007e01c8091c$883b2190$04a0aa42@gaxp1> Daniel/Peter, The 4-speed driveshaft has a sliding yoke on the trans end. It has a collar which fits over the outside of the trans rear housing (without making contact), and a shaft which fits into the rear housing of the trans through an oil seal and onto the splined main shaft. There is a U-joint immediately following the yoke, and a second joint at the differential. The Nissan parts manual shows a bolted yoke at both ends of the 5-speed driveshaft, and two U-joints, which is what I sort of recall from the 2L I had 20-odd years ago. It also shows some sort of sliding mechanism behind the front U-joint. The parts book refers to this as a "stub yoke". But, the Nissan manual does not show how the bolted yoke connects to the trans main shaft, so I can't really say for sure. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Solomon" To: "peter harrison" Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Need 5 speed drive shaft. >I may have one. I had a "spare" included in the sale of my car.... but > I'm suspicious it may actually be the 4spd version that was removed when > they converted the car to 5 spd. is there an obvious difference that I > can check / measure? > > peter harrison wrote: >> Have sourced locally everything except for a 5 speed drive shaft - >> anything >> out there? I am departing November 7th so some level of urgency is upon >> me. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Peter >> Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >> ________________________________________ >> >> d-solomon at comcast.net >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > > aultgc at jorsm.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Tue Oct 9 07:05:08 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:05:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Engine Swaps - (hypothetical at this point) Message-ID: Hi All, I've begun pricing KA's and 240SX's. Do you have any idea of the "normal" lifespan of a KA engine? This info wasn't readily available on 311s.org (I looked this time). For example, conventional wisdom used to prevail that an American motor's lifespan was approx 120 - 130 thousand miles before it was about shot and in desperate need of a rebuild. It now seems that many Japanese cars still run fine at 150 - 200 thousand miles. Should I be looking for one with <120 thou, <100 thou, <80 thou? Below that, the prices really seem to go up. I would assume that it's mostly because the car that the engine comes with is in much nicer condition. I'm hoping that when I'm ready to purchase one, that I can find one that was crushed from the rear with <50 thousand miles! Of course, if it's crushed from the front, I have a reason to buy a plasma cutter!!!! WooHoo! BTW, Pat has also asked for the swap info that I'm looking for. I've forwarded your replies to him, but if there is more input on the subject, would you mind copying Pat Horne @ roadsters at hornesystemstx.com? Luvin' You! Matt Smith (and Loreli - She's a '70 Silver Solex - undergoing a major wiring upgrade this week. I love the smell of rosin core solder in the morning!) From: Pat Horne [mailto:roadsters at hornesystemstx.com] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 10:51 PM To: Matthew A. Smith Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine Swaps - (hypothetical at this point) Matt, Please keep copies of your reply to post to the list or, at least please send my a copy of anything that comes to you directly and not to the list. I have a 67.5 1600 that lost compression on one cylinder that is patiently waiting for me to do a rebuild, probably a stroker, but with this car being my daily driver, it would be better for the environment if I moved up to a more modern engine instead. (or at least fuel injection). Peace, Pat From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Tue Oct 9 08:02:21 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 07:02:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Sacto Craiglist, chassis for $1k Message-ID: <8AB7DFF4B7187C43B0C93FA2D55E5B8C0EEA515E@xcgca210.northgrum.com> Saw this pop up on Sacramento CL today. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/443665441.html From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 9 09:13:52 2007 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:13:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Timing chain rattle at start up (death rattle) In-Reply-To: <8C9D81174B68B33-F00-31D2@Webmail-mg16.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C9D81174B68B33-F00-31D2@Webmail-mg16.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: hi david, in addition to shiming up the tens., i hope they replaced the timing chains,( precautionary) since, you probably dont know how many miles are on the chains, and it sounds like the top chain is stretched.(provided you shimed the cam towers up to standard. you have to measure the head thick. subtract it from 4.528[std.], and shim up the head that amount). you dont know if the head has been machined before, unless you measure it. im sure you know if a chain breaks, at least 2 valves will bend. sorry to be a harbinger of doom. bob smith 69 srl311 > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:26:50 -0400> From: mtbdavid2 at aol.com> Subject: [Roadsters] Timing chain rattle at start up (death rattle)> > Hi,> ? I had another non-rebuilt?2liter motor dropped into my '68 2000.? I ended up using my original head which has been rebuilt (shaved and cam towers shimmed with B cam).? I went to pick up the car today?from the shop which installed the motor and noticed when I started the car the dreaded death rattle.? I had the shop pull?the valve cover and sure enough the timing chaining is eating into the timing chain hanger when I start the car.? After startup the rattle goes away, I suppose it gets enough oil pressure after starting to keep the chain off the hanger.? > > Is there any quick fixes to keep more tension on the chain when the motor is not running?? I may have been hallucinating but I thought I had seen a tie wrap on the tensioner to keep the tensioner out when the motor is not running.? This was on my rebuilt head with the original motor.? There isn't a tie wrap on there now.? I am looking for the easiest, cheapest fix to get by for a year or so.? I already spent too much money buying the used motor and having the motor installed.> > Thanks,> David> ________________________________________________________________________> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com> ________________________________________> > rksmith46 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971 033 From tminerpcav at aol.com Tue Oct 9 09:43:38 2007 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:43:38 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C9D8A24B851B19-9C4-5601@WEBMAIL-DC10.sysops.aol.com> Ron Is correct.? That car belongs to Tom Drake and he lives in Indianapolis.? He hopes to bring it to the Solvang 08, and the pictures DON'T do it justice. Tim ---- Original Message ---- From: RHCsports at aol.com To: ljordan704 at netscape.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 7:01 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide Actually, The Roadster in the Hemmings mag belongs to a gentleman in the midwest. It was Tim Miner's very first Roadster that he sold 25 years ago. Tim says the pics don't do it justice. Ron ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ________________________________________ tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From jcgrant4th at netscape.net Tue Oct 9 09:47:41 2007 From: jcgrant4th at netscape.net (jcgrant4th at netscape.net) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:47:41 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide References: <8C9D8A24B851B19-9C4-5601@WEBMAIL-DC10.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <005b01c80a8b$ba7d12b0$6701a8c0@daddyo> Where can one find one of these Hemmings buyers' guides? I can't seem to locate them. Thanks. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Oct 9 10:01:20 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:01:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide In-Reply-To: <024b01c80a09$f9960100$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> Message-ID: <001701c80a8d$a28b16f0$6501a8c0@xp> For those who wondered (like me!), the article was in the September 2007 issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotics magazine. I'd love if someone could scan the article into a .PDF and email it to me. Thanks. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alvin Gogineni Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:19 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide Not sure if people know but Hemmings has a buyer's guide and they even mention 311s.org in it along with our favorite vendors!!!! From reblues at reblues.net Tue Oct 9 10:05:39 2007 From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:05:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Timing chain rattle at start up (death rattle) References: <8C9D81174B68B33-F00-31D2@Webmail-mg16.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001a01c80a8e$3dd03c30$4201a8c0@ACER4230> Check that you have the anti-drainback tube installed in the oil filter. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "robert k. smith" To: ; "roadster list" Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Timing chain rattle at start up (death rattle) > hi david, in addition to shiming up the tens., i hope they replaced the > timing > chains,( precautionary) since, you probably dont know how many miles > are on the chains, and it sounds like the top chain is stretched.(provided > you > shimed the cam towers up to standard. you have to measure the head thick. > subtract it from 4.528[std.], and shim up the head that amount). you dont > know if the head has been machined before, unless you measure it. im sure > you know if a chain breaks, at least 2 valves will bend. sorry to be a > harbinger of doom. bob smith > 69 srl311 >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 >> 18:26:50 -0400> > From: mtbdavid2 at aol.com> Subject: [Roadsters] Timing chain rattle at start > up > (death rattle)> > Hi,> ? I had another non-rebuilt?2liter motor dropped > into > my '68 2000.? I ended up using my original head which has been rebuilt > (shaved > and cam towers shimmed with B cam).? I went to pick up the car today?from > the > shop which installed the motor and noticed when I started the car the > dreaded > death rattle.? I had the shop pull?the valve cover and sure enough the > timing > chaining is eating into the timing chain hanger when I start the car.? > After > startup the rattle goes away, I suppose it gets enough oil pressure after > starting to keep the chain off the hanger.? > > Is there any quick fixes > to > keep more tension on the chain when the motor is not running?? I may have > been > hallucinating but I thought I had seen a tie wrap on the tensioner to keep > the > tensioner out when the motor is not running.? This was on my rebuilt head > with > the original motor.? There isn't a tie wrap on there now.? I am looking > for > the easiest, cheapest fix to get by for a year or so.? I already spent too > much money buying the used motor and having the motor installed.> > > Thanks,> > David> From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Tue Oct 9 10:16:12 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:16:12 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide Message-ID: In a message dated 10/9/2007 9:56:36 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, ppeters914 at comcast.net writes: I'd love if someone could scan the article into a .PDF and email it to me. Thanks. Pete Pete - outside of the pictures you'd get, we have had the written article on _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.WyCROC.org) since mid summer. At the bottom of our home page you'll see just above the webring: Read the Hemmings Motor News Datsun article that will appear in the September 2007 issue with help from WyCROCers! _Here Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _ (http://www.wycroc.org/hemmings.htm) _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) _ 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 _ (http://www.wycroc.org/hemmings.htm) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Tue Oct 9 10:18:29 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:18:29 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] if someone can jpg the pix from hemmings Message-ID: we could add these to the article we got from Mark back in June, so everyone has a general reference page to review (with nice pix). Great article. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From andycost at earthlink.net Tue Oct 9 10:26:11 2007 From: andycost at earthlink.net (Andy Cost) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:26:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Engine Swaps - (hypothetical at this point) Message-ID: <3342463.1191947172096.JavaMail.root@elwamui-sweet.atl.sa.earthlink.net> The ricer racers love to pull the KA24DE for the SR20DET. You can find them fairly regularly on ebay. Mine was $250, came with the entire car wiring harness, all the fuel injection sensors, JWT ECU, Hotshot header, fancy cams, underdrive pulley, clutch, and tranny. It was a super deal and others are out there like it. I suggest being patient and waiting for that perfect deal to come along. Andy -----Original Message----- >From: "Matthew A. Smith" >Sent: Oct 9, 2007 9:05 AM >To: "'datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net'" >Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Engine Swaps - (hypothetical at this point) > >Hi All, >I've begun pricing KA's and 240SX's. Do you have any idea of the "normal" >lifespan of a KA engine? This info wasn't readily available on 311s.org (I >looked this time). For example, conventional wisdom used to prevail that an >American motor's lifespan was approx 120 - 130 thousand miles before it was >about shot and in desperate need of a rebuild. It now seems that many >Japanese cars still run fine at 150 - 200 thousand miles. Should I be >looking for one with <120 thou, <100 thou, <80 thou? Below that, the prices >really seem to go up. I would assume that it's mostly because the car that >the engine comes with is in much nicer condition. >I'm hoping that when I'm ready to purchase one, that I can find one that was >crushed from the rear with <50 thousand miles! Of course, if it's crushed >from the front, I have a reason to buy a plasma cutter!!!! WooHoo! >BTW, >Pat has also asked for the swap info that I'm looking for. I've forwarded >your replies to him, but if there is more input on the subject, would you >mind copying Pat Horne @ roadsters at hornesystemstx.com? > >Luvin' You! >Matt Smith >(and Loreli - She's a '70 Silver Solex - undergoing a major wiring upgrade >this week. I love the smell of rosin core solder in the morning!) > >From: Pat Horne [mailto:roadsters at hornesystemstx.com] >Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 10:51 PM >To: Matthew A. Smith >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Engine Swaps - (hypothetical at this point) > >Matt, > >Please keep copies of your reply to post to the list or, at least please >send my a copy of anything that comes to you directly and not to the >list. I have a 67.5 1600 that lost compression on one cylinder that is >patiently waiting for me to do a rebuild, probably a stroker, but with >this car being my daily driver, it would be better for the environment >if I moved up to a more modern engine instead. (or at least fuel >injection). > >Peace, >Pat From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Tue Oct 9 10:26:29 2007 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:26:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] if someone can jpg the pix from hemmings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02d101c80a91$2555ba10$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> http://rides.webshots.com/album/560981529atKNJm Just "view full-size", then save as a .jpg -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BARTERDUDE at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:18 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] if someone can jpg the pix from hemmings we could add these to the article we got from Mark back in June, so everyone has a general reference page to review (with nice pix). Great article. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ________________________________________ gogineni.alvin at gene.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From solex675 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 9 10:54:14 2007 From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:54:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Bounty Hunters listen up Message-ID: All, As much as I enjoy driving the roadster, I have long known that I am not mechanically inclined other than changing the fluids and lubing the chassis. Well, last June I epxerienced some major electrical issues to the point where replacing the alternator and some electrical relays became necessary. However, the sins of the PO came back to haunt me as a butchered wiring harness made it virtually impossible to wire in a new alternator and also made the wiring diagram I had unreliable at best. So now I am throwing in the towel, mea clupa, and I am reaching out to the community at large for help. As some of you know, I live in Southern California. I am willing to trailer the car anywhere within a reasonable distance to a service resource. I have tried the more well-known vendors and they are too busy to help me anytime soon. I am willing to make it worth someone's while to help get my car back on the road. I sure would like to take the car to Solvang next year and to even further sweeten the pot, I pledge to support 500.00 to buy some nice prize for the banquet raffle. I want to get back on the road and need to rely on the skills of others to do so. So thank you to anyone who cares to assist me in this. Hope to see you on the road soon! Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne ws From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Oct 9 21:25:21 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:25:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] R&R Engine/Tranny Message-ID: All things being equal, I should be ready to swap trannies Sunday Oct 21st. Would appreciate some local help if available. Usual consumables will be provided. Thx Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From matthews517 at earthlink.net Wed Oct 10 07:15:53 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:15:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Engine Swap info - THANK YOU! Message-ID: To all of you who replied, You provided me/us with GREAT info, especially by providing what to look for, where to find it, and problems inherent in the swap(s). Since it's likely to be time consuming and fairly expensive, it's nice to go into this project with my eyes wide open. Tooth marks in the tush are a DRAG! My first order of business will be to get a POS car so I can still get groceries (and parts) while Loreli is sitting at home with her guts all over the garage. I'm now thinking that I should put the actual swap off until next winter instead of this one. In the meantime, I can continue acquiring more knowledge on the subject (reading schematics, etc) and also getting the necessary parts together. I will, of course, keep you updated on my progress (and take LOTS of pictures. Hooray for Webshots!). The weather in the Mid South this weekend will be in the mid 70's and sunny. All mountain roads in this area should be on the lookout for my silver Solex. Loreli, Tater, and I are going to be "straightnin' the curves and flattnin' the hills. Someday the mountain might get us, but the law never will! YEE HAWWW"! Thank you again! Matt Smith - I'm not speeding Officer, I'm flying really low! Loreli - She's a '70 Silver Solex Tater (salad) - Hound dogs make the best co-pilots! From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Tue Oct 9 11:08:07 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:08:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide In-Reply-To: <001701c80a8d$a28b16f0$6501a8c0@xp> References: <024b01c80a09$f9960100$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> <001701c80a8d$a28b16f0$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76166380@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> I just went on line and ordered the back copy of Sept with this article. It was 7 bucks. Yes, it would be a good addition to the 311s site. Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 11:01 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide For those who wondered (like me!), the article was in the September 2007 issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotics magazine. I'd love if someone could scan the article into a .PDF and email it to me. Thanks. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alvin Gogineni Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 5:19 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide Not sure if people know but Hemmings has a buyer's guide and they even mention 311s.org in it along with our favorite vendors!!!! ________________________________________ From az589 at lafn.org Tue Oct 9 11:19:07 2007 From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:19:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide In-Reply-To: <001701c80a8d$a28b16f0$6501a8c0@xp> References: <024b01c80a09$f9960100$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> <001701c80a8d$a28b16f0$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20071009101753.026bc588@lafn.org> You could buy one at Barnes and Noble for only $5 Stan ========= At 09:01 AM 10/9/2007, Pete Peters wrote: >For those who wondered (like me!), the article was in the September 2007 >issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotics magazine. I'd love if someone could scan >the article into a .PDF and email it to me. > >Thanks. > >Pete From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Oct 9 17:57:03 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:57:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Intercom Message-ID: Thiking of installing an intercom so that I can communicate w/passenger without shouting and still have the sounds from my system. Any experience/insights Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Oct 9 14:45:19 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:45:19 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Early Door Pulls Message-ID: So, guess what - my 1970 door pulls are already cracked and I don't even use the b*&*^%y things. Anyone got a set of early metal pulls?? LMK w/pricig and shipping to LA THX Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From 12061997 at comcast.net Tue Oct 9 11:18:01 2007 From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:18:01 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Re: Datsun roadster buyer's guide Message-ID: <100920071718.15855.470BB7C90000B96700003DEF2200735446C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net> -------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) To: tminerpcav at aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:28:19 +0000 Hi List, I had the pleasure of seeing Tom's car at a Datsun outing in Indy a couple of years ago. I don't get to see many restored 1600's around here but this is a near perfect car. I had a new one in 67 and this car is cleaner then mine off the floor. bob ballinger 67-1600,Muncie,IN -------------- Original message -------------- From: tminerpcav at aol.com > Ron Is correct.? That car belongs to Tom Drake and he lives in Indianapolis.? He > hopes to bring it to the Solvang 08, and the pictures DON'T do it justice. > > > > Tim > > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: RHCsports at aol.com > To: ljordan704 at netscape.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 7:01 pm > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide > > > > > Actually, > The Roadster in the Hemmings mag belongs to a gentleman in the midwest. It > was Tim Miner's very first Roadster that he sold 25 years ago. Tim says the > pics don't do it justice. > Ron > > > > ************************************** See wha t's new at http://www.aol.com > ________________________________________ > > tminerpcav at aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca > ________________________________________ > > 12061997 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Oct 9 11:50:22 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:50:22 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20071009101753.026bc588@lafn.org> Message-ID: <003701c80a9c$e0730770$6501a8c0@xp> ...if they haven't pulled it from the shelves for the Oct issue. -----Original Message----- From: Stan Chernoff [mailto:az589 at lafn.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:19 AM To: Pete Peters; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide You could buy one at Barnes and Noble for only $5 Stan ========= At 09:01 AM 10/9/2007, Pete Peters wrote: >For those who wondered (like me!), the article was in the September >2007 issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotics magazine. I'd love if someone >could scan the article into a .PDF and email it to me. > >Thanks. > >Pete From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Oct 10 10:19:18 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:19:18 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20071009101753.026bc588@lafn.org> Message-ID: Ya also could have gone to the JCCS show - they were giving them away. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >From: Stan Chernoff >To: "Pete Peters" , > >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide >Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:19:07 -0700 > >You could buy one at Barnes and Noble for only $5 > >Stan >========= > >At 09:01 AM 10/9/2007, Pete Peters wrote: > >For those who wondered (like me!), the article was in the September 2007 > >issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotics magazine. I'd love if someone could >scan > >the article into a .PDF and email it to me. > > > >Thanks. > > > >Pete >________________________________________ > >granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Wed Oct 10 10:48:33 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:48:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Intercom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Peter, Telephone type headsets maybe? Try looking at touring motorcycle accessories. I think they'd be your best bet. How bout Blue Tooth cell phone devices? If your cell phones have unlimited minutes you could just talk thru them. Megaphones? Tin cans connected by a REALLY REALLY short string? Matt Smith From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Oct 10 12:19:55 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:19:55 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Intercom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Check this out. http://www.casporttouring.com/store/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=44 020031&Category_Code=communication Here's the short writeup: The RiderLink ST-1 is a complete intercom, communications and audio system for the driver and passenger of a motorcycle or powersport vehicle. The RiderLink ST-1 includes everything a rider needs to immediately start enjoying communications and audio. The ST-1 comes complete with a full-duplex intercom, a built-in FM radio, 2 universal headsets that work in both full-face and open-face helmets, and all necessary cables and adapters to create the perfect communications and audio system for your bike. The RiderLink ST-1 features an intelligent priority circuit that automatically mutes and mixes the audio signals for handsfree operation. With the ST-1 you can use your wireless phone, 2-way radio, radar detector, and external music source to make your next ride that much better. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 8:49 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intercom > > > Hi Peter, > Telephone type headsets maybe? Try looking at touring motorcycle > accessories. I think they'd be your best bet. > > How bout Blue Tooth cell phone devices? If your cell phones have unlimited > minutes you could just talk thru them. Megaphones? Tin cans connected by a > REALLY REALLY short string? > Matt Smith > ________________________________________ > > gsglasgow at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roadstrdude at yahoo.com Wed Oct 10 11:37:17 2007 From: roadstrdude at yahoo.com (Roadster Dude) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Blog of the Japanese Car Show in Long Beach.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <344188.92013.qm@web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com> http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/09/celebrating-japanese-classics/index.html?ex=1349755200&en=1751abb020a8d255&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss --------------------------------- Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Wed Oct 10 12:04:57 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:04:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Early Door Pulls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF761A8BB9@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> I may have some. Now would LA be Lower Alabama:) My in-laws live in UCLA - Upper Corner Lower Alabama.... Keep SEROC'in! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 3:45 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Early Door Pulls So, guess what - my 1970 door pulls are already cracked and I don't even use the b*&*^%y things. Anyone got a set of early metal pulls?? LMK w/pricig and shipping to LA THX Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 10 12:13:58 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Intercom In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <693934.42042.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Install a muffler? ;^) Gary McCormick San Jose, CA SRL311-13291 peter harrison wrote: Thiking of installing an intercom so that I can communicate w/passenger without shouting and still have the sounds from my system. Any experience/insights Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN ________________________________________ gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Wed Oct 10 13:17:35 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:17:35 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide In-Reply-To: <003701c80a9c$e0730770$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <20071010151735.S6HFH.52658.root@fepweb15> In the Madison area, the September issues got replaced by the October issues on September first--all months are like this. I had forgotten about wanting the Hemming's Sept issue until the second or third. The extra two bucks for a back issue would have been spent running all over town looking for a store that hadn't pulled the Sept issues yet--and there would have been no guarantee that I would have actually found one. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Pete Peters wrote: > ...if they haven't pulled it from the shelves for the Oct issue. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stan Chernoff [mailto:az589 at lafn.org] > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 10:19 AM > To: Pete Peters; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun roadster buyer's guide > > > You could buy one at Barnes and Noble for only $5 > > Stan > ========= > > At 09:01 AM 10/9/2007, Pete Peters wrote: > >For those who wondered (like me!), the article was in the September > >2007 issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotics magazine. I'd love if someone > >could scan the article into a .PDF and email it to me. > > > >Thanks. > > > >Pete > ________________________________________ > > tputland at charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From scott8933 at socal.rr.com Wed Oct 10 13:23:40 2007 From: scott8933 at socal.rr.com (s.ulrich) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:23:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Intercom In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <470D26BC.4030202@socal.rr.com> Has anyone ever fabricated one of those "wind-wall" things behind the seats? Don't know what its called, but you've all seen them - started with the RX-7 convertible and now pretty much every 'vert has one, its that small piece of plexi that goes behind the seats to keep the wind from curling over the windshield and blowing backwards into the passenger area. Makes a huge difference in some convertibles. peter harrison wrote: > Thiking of installing an intercom so that I can communicate w/passenger > without shouting and still have the sounds from my system. > Any experience/insights > > Peter > Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN > _ From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Wed Oct 10 13:28:45 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:28:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Intercom In-Reply-To: <470D26BC.4030202@socal.rr.com> References: <470D26BC.4030202@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF761A8C1B@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Brad Holmes has a nice wind wall in his 68 2000 Solex. It is mounted in the hoop of the roll bar behind the seats. Looks nice and something I will do. Hey Brad - got a picture posted someplace of you "wall"? Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of s.ulrich Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:24 PM To: peter harrison Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intercom Has anyone ever fabricated one of those "wind-wall" things behind the seats? Don't know what its called, but you've all seen them - started with the RX-7 convertible and now pretty much every 'vert has one, its that small piece of plexi that goes behind the seats to keep the wind from curling over the windshield and blowing backwards into the passenger area. Makes a huge difference in some convertibles. peter harrison wrote: > Thiking of installing an intercom so that I can communicate > w/passenger without shouting and still have the sounds from my system. > Any experience/insights > > Peter > Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN > _ ________________________________________ p From gogineni.alvin at gene.com Wed Oct 10 13:34:08 2007 From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:34:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Intercom In-Reply-To: <470D26BC.4030202@socal.rr.com> References: <470D26BC.4030202@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <054c01c80b74$86b3eeb0$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> back http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2984576710094396073wfJgHb front http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2453408140094396073rsyZvD -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of s.ulrich Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:24 PM To: peter harrison Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intercom Has anyone ever fabricated one of those "wind-wall" things behind the seats? Don't know what its called, but you've all seen them - started with the RX-7 convertible and now pretty much every 'vert has one, its that small piece of plexi that goes behind the seats to keep the wind from curling over the windshield and blowing backwards into the passenger area. Makes a huge difference in some convertibles. peter harrison wrote: > Thiking of installing an intercom so that I can communicate w/passenger > without shouting and still have the sounds from my system. > Any experience/insights > > Peter > Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN > _ ________________________________________ gogineni.alvin at gene.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sumton at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 10 13:33:20 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:33:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Intercom References: <470D26BC.4030202@socal.rr.com> Message-ID: <009501c80b74$b370b8c0$800101df@Garage.local> i fabricated ones for two other old cars, both british. http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/windscreen/ and http://www.ranteer.com/davescars/mgb/Windscreen/ the mg is much easier because it has a bracket that goes across the car to hold up the covertible top cover. i don't consider either finished products. the mg is too awkward to store in the car because its so long and the tr6 prevented me from using the tonneau. but hopefully these will give you some ideas. i met a guy with a fiat 124 spider who simply bolted a windscreen to blocks of wood through which the headrest support passed. was simple and easy. the real quesion: does it work? ABSOLUTELY!!!!!! it is the most wife friendly thing you can do to your car!!!!! it keeps your hat from being blown off, etc. it makes the top down much more comfortable on a chilly day. i totally recommend it. when i get closer to finishing my roadster, i will be fabricating one for it as well. i expect to anchor it to the bottom of the three bolts holding on the top. i know of someone who built one for his tr6 that was permanent; it had securing knobs on it and he could slide it up and down. > Has anyone ever fabricated one of those "wind-wall" things behind the > seats? Don't know what its called, but you've all seen them - started > with the RX-7 convertible and now pretty much every 'vert has one, its > that small piece of plexi that goes behind the seats to keep the wind > from curling over the windshield and blowing backwards into the > passenger area. Makes a huge difference in some convertibles. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Oct 10 14:28:27 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:28:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Windscreens In-Reply-To: <009501c80b74$b370b8c0$800101df@Garage.local> References: <470D26BC.4030202@socal.rr.com> <009501c80b74$b370b8c0$800101df@Garage.local> Message-ID: <8C9D9933FA2F459-F98-B8B5@WEBMAIL-MB10.sysops.aol.com> So why doesn't someone start the Windscreen Project?? Not me, however. ? I'll bet a lot of people would like a well-thought out design. Also I wonder if the screen for other cars could be adapted. ? Linda 68 1600 ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From 12061997 at comcast.net Wed Oct 10 15:42:50 2007 From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:42:50 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] two 1600's for sale Message-ID: <101020072142.8835.470D475A000E52E7000022832200762194C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net> Hi List, There are two 1600 Datsuns with lots of parts for sale in St. Louis. The cars are rusty, one more then the other and both have the high windshield. One has great red diamond high seats...He has some carbs, fenders motors and all will be junked if not sold . He has five Datsuns and due to personal problems three must go. One is on e-bay. His name is Dana and his number is 314 640 3824..bob ballinger 67-1600,Muncie,IN From racery at comcast.net Wed Oct 10 15:59:23 2007 From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:59:23 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] engine swapped KA24's Message-ID: <101020072159.4459.470D4B3B0009732C0000116B2200737478979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> "The ricer racers love to pull the KA24DE for the SR20DET. You can find them fairly regularly on ebay. " Heh, that's funny- the most professional, experienced racer I know (yes, REAL racer) runs a KA24 in his GT3 240SX... Diff'rent engines for different purposes, huh? Toby From tminerpcav at aol.com Wed Oct 10 18:04:58 2007 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:04:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] if someone can jpg the pix from hemmings In-Reply-To: <02d101c80a91$2555ba10$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> References: <02d101c80a91$2555ba10$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> Message-ID: <8C9D9B17F023431-AF4-4C8@WEBMAIL-DC18.sysops.aol.com> Alvin, I know Jeff Koch of Hemmings, and I'll ask him if we could use the jpgs for a non-commercial use.?Tom Drake may also have them.? Jeff may ask specifically what we'll be doing with them, so clue me in. Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: Alvin Gogineni To: BARTERDUDE at aol.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 9:26 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] if someone can jpg the pix from hemmings http://rides.webshots.com/album/560981529atKNJm Just "view full-size", then save as a .jpg -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BARTERDUDE at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 9:18 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] if someone can jpg the pix from hemmings we could add these to the article we got from Mark back in June, so everyone has a general reference page to review (with nice pix). Great article. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ________________________________________ gogineni.alvin at gene.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From bradandgayle at charter.net Wed Oct 10 19:01:00 2007 From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:01:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Intercom References: <470D26BC.4030202@socal.rr.com> <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF761A8C1B@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <006601c80ba2$30696480$9b02a8c0@holmes> Phil and listers Page one and two show the wind screen.... it works great! Go ahead and copy it if you like. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/475349 Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: "s.ulrich" ; "peter harrison" Cc: "Brad Holmes" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intercom > Brad Holmes has a nice wind wall in his 68 2000 Solex. It is mounted > in the hoop of the roll bar behind the seats. Looks nice and something > I will do. Hey Brad - got a picture posted someplace of you "wall"? > > Phil > SEROC > > -----Original Message----- > From: > datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team > .net] On Behalf Of s.ulrich > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:24 PM > To: peter harrison > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intercom > > Has anyone ever fabricated one of those "wind-wall" things behind the > seats? Don't know what its called, but you've all seen them - started > with the RX-7 convertible and now pretty much every 'vert has one, its > that small piece of plexi that goes behind the seats to keep the wind > from curling over the windshield and blowing backwards into the > passenger area. Makes a huge difference in some convertibles. > > > peter harrison wrote: >> Thiking of installing an intercom so that I can communicate >> w/passenger without shouting and still have the sounds from my system. >> Any experience/insights >> >> Peter >> Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >> _ > ________________________________________ > > p > ________________________________________ > > bradandgayle at charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Oct 10 20:14:02 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:14:02 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Windscreen In-Reply-To: <006601c80ba2$30696480$9b02a8c0@holmes> References: <470D26BC.4030202@socal.rr.com> <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF761A8C1B@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> <006601c80ba2$30696480$9b02a8c0@holmes> Message-ID: <8C9D9C3869654CE-71C-29BE@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com> Brad, Is that a piece of plexiglass that you used for the screen? What do you use to cut it with? It looks nice and unobtrusive. Linda 68 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Brad and Gayle Holmes To: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) ; s.ulrich ; peter harrison Cc: Brad Holmes ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 6:01 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intercom Phil and listers Page one and two show the wind screen.... it works great! Go ahead and copy it if you like. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/475349 Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: "s.ulrich" ; "peter harrison" Cc: "Brad Holmes" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intercom > Brad Holmes has a nice wind wall in his 68 2000 Solex. It is mounted > in the hoop of the roll bar behind the seats. Looks nice and something > I will do. Hey Brad - got a picture posted someplace of you "wall"? > > Phil > SEROC > > ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From sasher at olympiawest.com Thu Oct 11 01:11:47 2007 From: sasher at olympiawest.com (Seth Asher) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:11:47 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1963 Fairlady 1500 Wire Wheels Message-ID: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01457175@omgserver3.omg.local> Does anyone know of a source that has wire wheels that would work with this car without any modification? Would MGB wire wheels work with a bolt-to-spindle adapter? Thanks-in-advance for any help. Seth No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1061 - Release Date: 10/10/2007 8:43 AM From sasher at olympiawest.com Thu Oct 11 01:21:01 2007 From: sasher at olympiawest.com (Seth Asher) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:21:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 Message-ID: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01457176@omgserver3.omg.local> Left hand gas tank strap broke, going over a wallow in road tday. AAA towed me to a muffler shop that spot-welded the strap back together for $40. But, I fear the right hand side is weakened because as the tank swung down when the left strap broke, it separated the last 4" inches rearward of the support member under trunk that is sandwiched between tank and trunk bottom sheetmetal. I am thinking of wirewheeling and JB Welding the lengthward straps, and also the sandwiched lengthward support beams, kinding of "painting" them with JB Weld...as it is it makes me nervous to drive the car over bumps. Kind of ruined my day with this unexpected random event. There is no one around Hollywood I know who could affordably and quickly install new straps, and even if they did, the sandwiched beams are still weak. Anyone have any suggestions? Anyone have any comments about whether my JB Weld idea for reinforcement is a good or bad idea? This is a pretty new car to me...anyone have any tips so I can ANTICIPATE random things happening like the gas tank falling out?!?!? I haven't inspected the whole car, so advice about major known-issues to check would be very helpful. This car is my new daily driver. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Seth No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1061 - Release Date: 10/10/2007 8:43 AM From dgstoll at verizon.net Thu Oct 11 04:45:39 2007 From: dgstoll at verizon.net (Dave Stoll) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:45:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01457176@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <000e01c80bf3$ddac1560$2e01a8c0@default> I would not use JB Weld to carry the weight of a gastank. A small sheetmetal shop might be able to make a new strap daveS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Asher" To: Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:21 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 > Left hand gas tank strap broke, going over a wallow in road tday. AAA > towed > me to a muffler shop that spot-welded the strap back together for $40. > But, I > fear the right hand side is weakened because as the tank swung down when > the > left strap broke, it separated the last 4" inches rearward of the support > member under trunk that is sandwiched between tank and trunk bottom > sheetmetal. > > I am thinking of wirewheeling and JB Welding the lengthward straps, and > also > the sandwiched lengthward support beams, kinding of "painting" them with > JB > Weld...as it is it makes me nervous to drive the car over bumps. Kind of > ruined my day with this unexpected random event. > > There is no one around Hollywood I know who could affordably and quickly > install new straps, and even if they did, the sandwiched beams are still > weak. > Anyone have any suggestions? > > Anyone have any comments about whether my JB Weld idea for reinforcement > is a > good or bad idea? > > This is a pretty new car to me...anyone have any tips so I can ANTICIPATE > random things happening like the gas tank falling out?!?!? I haven't > inspected the whole car, so advice about major known-issues to check would > be > very helpful. > > This car is my new daily driver. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Seth > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1061 - Release Date: > 10/10/2007 > 8:43 AM > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ________________________________________ > > dgstoll at verizon.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From snakeranch2 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 11 06:20:16 2007 From: snakeranch2 at yahoo.com (Eric Johnson) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 In-Reply-To: <000e01c80bf3$ddac1560$2e01a8c0@default> Message-ID: <785814.60742.qm@web52402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Home depot has "plumbers strap" or "pipe strap" look around the water heaters. not 100% correct but that strapping has a bunch of series of holes that would work pretty good, strong stuff.better than JB weld. JB weld is a good fix for lots of stuff but not that. walk through you local home store, you would be surprised what you come up with, even the "j" bolt hangars are there EJ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Thu Oct 11 06:34:28 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:34:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 In-Reply-To: <785814.60742.qm@web52402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <000e01c80bf3$ddac1560$2e01a8c0@default> <785814.60742.qm@web52402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF761A8D55@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Yea, take a stroll down the large hardware stores - it is amazing what you will find. Also - Mobile home tie-down strapping is nice galvanized strap with no holes and easily formed. A mobile home supply house will have a bunch and may give some to you. Glue strips from an old inner tube with contact cement for padding between the strap and tank and you will be good to go. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of Eric Johnson Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:20 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left),Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 Home depot has "plumbers strap" or "pipe strap" look around the water heaters. not 100% correct but that strapping has a bunch of series of holes that would work pretty good, strong stuff.better than JB weld. JB weld is a good fix for lots of stuff but not that. walk through you local home store, you would be surprised what you come up with, even the "j" bolt hangars are there EJ ____ From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Thu Oct 11 06:53:11 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:53:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Windscreen In-Reply-To: <8C9D9C3869654CE-71C-29BE@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com> References: <470D26BC.4030202@socal.rr.com><85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF761A8C1B@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov><006601c80ba2$30696480$9b02a8c0@holmes> <8C9D9C3869654CE-71C-29BE@FWM-D30.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF761A8D6C@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Hey Linda - Brad may have answered, but yes it is Plexiglas. I think Brad made his out of 1/4 inch, but down to 1/8 inch would be strong enough. Home Depot has it but expensive. A large glass shop may have a better deal. I find cutting Plexiglas to be a trick. You can not use a jig saw because it is too fast (melts the Plexiglas) and the material "welds" back together behind the blade. They make a cutter that scribes its way through. You get about half way and it will break pretty clean. Then sand the edges with a belt sander (and use it to make corners) then final sand to a nice finish edge - or finish with a propane torch to melt a smooth edge. At one time I made a bunch of stuff for the Roadster out of Plexiglas - sun visors, head light covers, scoops, air dam,,, it is a good alternative to aluminum is some places and easy to form/shape with common tools and an oven. Geez, my Mom used to get so mad at me when she came home and the smell of Plexiglas was all through the house from using her oven .....:) Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:14 PM To: bradandgayle at charter.net Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Windscreen Brad, Is that a piece of plexiglass that you used for the screen? What do you use to cut it with? It looks nice and unobtrusive. Linda 68 1600 -----Original Message----- From: Brad and Gayle Holmes To: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) ; s.ulrich ; peter harrison Cc: Brad Holmes ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 6:01 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intercom Phil and listers Page one and two show the wind screen.... it works great! Go ahead and copy it if you like. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/475349 Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" To: "s.ulrich" ; "peter harrison" Cc: "Brad Holmes" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intercom > Brad Holmes has a nice wind wall in his 68 2000 Solex. It is mounted > in the hoop of the roll bar behind the seats. Looks nice and something > I will do. Hey Brad - got a picture posted someplace of you "wall"? > > Phil > SEROC > > ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ________________________________________ phillip.b.hall at msfc.nasa.gov Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Thu Oct 11 06:59:20 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:59:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] engine swapped KA24's In-Reply-To: <101020072159.4459.470D4B3B0009732C0000116B2200737478979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> Message-ID: I've seen a bunch of the 240SX's with SR20DET conversion done. It's purely a power thing. Ya can't drift without a bunch of horsepower. (I've been reading 240SX forums for two days). "Real" racing is more than just horsepower. It's also driver ability, keeping the tires stuck to the road, suspension setup, etc. A KA24 can be made to go fast and still have control in the corners. The "street" ricer racers around here use their HP to make very curly black marks in parking lots. Matt "The ricer racers love to pull the KA24DE for the SR20DET. You can find them fairly regularly on ebay. " Heh, that's funny- the most professional, experienced racer I know (yes, REAL racer) runs a KA24 in his GT3 240SX... Diff'rent engines for different purposes, huh? Toby ________________________________________ matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From d-solomon at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 07:19:14 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:19:14 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] engine swapped KA24's Message-ID: <101120071319.6260.470E22D20003E9330000187422007374780201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> Okay, so along those lines, I have some questions for those of you who are racing the 1600 (or any of you who'd like to chime in) Where can I source heavier springs for my roadster? (I'm doing a swap) Will I encounter any negative effects if I swap to a rack and pinion steering when I do this? I'm allready changing-out the rear for an IRS setup, and the front brakes need to go as well.... so is there an aftermarket setup that would be better suited to track use? I mean, is a certain type of front -end better suited to road-course situations? Equal A-arms? Wishbones? Struts? Or is the front end okay... in which case: sway-bars? Where can I get heavier ones? wow. that's alot of questions. I appreciate in advance all of your info, or even your "musings"...... thanks -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Matthew A. Smith" > I've seen a bunch of the 240SX's with SR20DET conversion done. It's purely a > power thing. Ya can't drift without a bunch of horsepower. (I've been > reading 240SX forums for two days). > "Real" racing is more than just horsepower. It's also driver ability, > keeping the tires stuck to the road, suspension setup, etc. A KA24 can be > made to go fast and still have control in the corners. > The "street" ricer racers around here use their HP to make very curly black > marks in parking lots. > > Matt > > "The ricer racers love to pull the KA24DE for the SR20DET. You can find > them > fairly regularly on ebay. " > > Heh, that's funny- > the most professional, experienced racer I know (yes, REAL racer) > runs a KA24 in his GT3 240SX... > > Diff'rent engines for different purposes, huh? > > Toby > ________________________________________ > > matthews517 at earthlink.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Thu Oct 11 07:35:02 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:35:02 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Windscreen, now acrylic cutting Message-ID: Linda, Here is what they mean by a scribing knife. http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/squ/squ10202.htm Folks have used a jigsaw, but the buffeting of the material sometimes rips the edges, so you tape it to a thin pc of plywood first. Blade selection for this is key to prevent the melting Phil described, clogs up the blade teeth in no time. So, since you are in the medical profession, would some of the neat, sharp devices work for this? You betcha! You make about 6-8 strokes, so that the groove is at least 1/3 of depth. Remember, like cutting glass, you need to be removing a large enough piece to grab on to, so you have to "snap off" from lets say an 8" piece to the desired 4" piece, not from 4.25 to 4", that won't work. Inside radii? Not really possible with this method. But I must come clean. The jr college where I sub has a composite cutting bandsaw that would do just fine for things like this, zips them off in no time. Oh, and it just so happens that a former student worked for a motorcycle fairing plastic forming biz, so there is about 650#'s of leftover acrylic sitting around. (I have covered all the coffee tables in our house to keep the finish protected from my two little "helpers" efforts) On some of the help sites, like this: http://www.ehow.com/how_2089221_cut-acrylic-plastic.html Say things like this: << Acrylic plastic doesn't weigh as much as glass and isn't affected by the sun or salt spray. >> This is not true. Lexan doesn't UV degrade (or at least is sooooo slow it doesn't matter) but others do. So, leave ordinary acrylic in direct sun, every day/all day (how many roadsters still do this?), it'd start to get foggy after 2-3 years, and if you did nothing to it it'd be non-see-thru (technical term there) after that, depending on region/sun/elements, etc. (the drawback, for heat-formed parts like Phil described, is that Lexan is a "royal pain" to form, has to be heat soaked for like 6 hours to remove the moisture, or it clouds up on cooldown..... BTDT....) Group buy on a cut pattern with flame-polished edges? I'm in for that. I don't really have a good method (okay, don't want to spend the time setting up the Bridgeport and setting up each piece) to cut the slots like Brads have, but drilled holes would be no problem, and then you could use black (or purple or pink!) zip ties. Free materials for the group buy? Nah, all of the leftovers are strangely shaped scraps, which would take too much time to lay-out, and there would be some minor flaws in them, differing thicknesses, etc. How big a group needed? I'll work up costs, but if it is meant to go down between the seats to near the console/hump, we'll get a lot fewer pieces (like 3) out of a purchased sheet (which will yield probably 5-6). Whew, too many words. Sorry. Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Thu Oct 11 08:00:48 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:00:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Windscreen, now acrylic cutting tools/blades In-Reply-To: <470E29E0.9010109@hornesystemstx.com> References: <470E29E0.9010109@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: blade on backwards, never tried that, clever. The bandsaw blade I have used looks like the bandsaw equivalent of the "slabbing" circular saw blade shown on this page. http://www.ukam.com/diamond_blades_composites.htm Diamond coated, so expensive, but lots of carbon/glass panels get cut, so anything else just wears out in no time. <> It will melt the material instead of taking bites out of it. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 08:57:21 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:57:21 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 In-Reply-To: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01457176@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <001d01c80c17$09d00cf0$6501a8c0@xp> Another option is to relocate the rear strap mounts to the rear frame to take the stress of the trunk floor. See Step #10: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Seth Asher Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:21 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 Left hand gas tank strap broke, going over a wallow in road tday. AAA towed me to a muffler shop that spot-welded the strap back together for $40. But, I fear the right hand side is weakened because as the tank swung down when the left strap broke, it separated the last 4" inches rearward of the support member under trunk that is sandwiched between tank and trunk bottom sheetmetal. I am thinking of wirewheeling and JB Welding the lengthward straps, and also the sandwiched lengthward support beams, kinding of "painting" them with JB Weld...as it is it makes me nervous to drive the car over bumps. Kind of ruined my day with this unexpected random event. There is no one around Hollywood I know who could affordably and quickly install new straps, and even if they did, the sandwiched beams are still weak. Anyone have any suggestions? Anyone have any comments about whether my JB Weld idea for reinforcement is a good or bad idea? This is a pretty new car to me...anyone have any tips so I can ANTICIPATE random things happening like the gas tank falling out?!?!? I haven't inspected the whole car, so advice about major known-issues to check would be very helpful. This car is my new daily driver. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Seth No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1061 - Release Date: 10/10/2007 8:43 AM From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 09:02:36 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:02:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] racing suspension and brakes (was "RE: engine swapped KA24's") In-Reply-To: <101120071319.6260.470E22D20003E9330000187422007374780201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001e01c80c17$c5fef260$6501a8c0@xp> Another good place to ask is the Datsun Roadster Racing forum: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of d-solomon at comcast.net Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:19 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] engine swapped KA24's Okay, so along those lines, I have some questions for those of you who are racing the 1600 (or any of you who'd like to chime in) Where can I source heavier springs for my roadster? (I'm doing a swap) Will I encounter any negative effects if I swap to a rack and pinion steering when I do this? I'm already changing-out the rear for an IRS setup, and the front brakes need to go as well.... so is there an aftermarket setup that would be better suited to track use? I mean, is a certain type of front -end better suited to road-course situations? Equal A-arms? Wishbones? Struts? Or is the front end okay... in which case: sway-bars? Where can I get heavier ones? wow. that's alot of questions. I appreciate in advance all of your info, or even your "musings"...... thanks From slowboy at cox.net Thu Oct 11 10:01:01 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:01:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 References: <001d01c80c17$09d00cf0$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <002d01c80c1f$ec5a00a0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> I have seen that picture before. Does anyone have a picture with another angle showing the J-Hook in the frame? Thanks! Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 > Another option is to relocate the rear strap mounts to the rear frame to > take the stress of the trunk floor. See Step #10: > > > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Seth Asher > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:21 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member > (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 > > > Left hand gas tank strap broke, going over a wallow in road tday. AAA > towed > me to a muffler shop that spot-welded the strap back together for $40. > But, > I fear the right hand side is weakened because as the tank swung down when > the left strap broke, it separated the last 4" inches rearward of the > support member under trunk that is sandwiched between tank and trunk > bottom > sheetmetal. > > I am thinking of wirewheeling and JB Welding the lengthward straps, and > also > the sandwiched lengthward support beams, kinding of "painting" them with > JB > Weld...as it is it makes me nervous to drive the car over bumps. Kind of > ruined my day with this unexpected random event. > > There is no one around Hollywood I know who could affordably and quickly > install new straps, and even if they did, the sandwiched beams are still > weak. Anyone have any suggestions? > > Anyone have any comments about whether my JB Weld idea for reinforcement > is > a good or bad idea? > > This is a pretty new car to me...anyone have any tips so I can ANTICIPATE > random things happening like the gas tank falling out?!?!? I haven't > inspected the whole car, so advice about major known-issues to check would > be very helpful. > > This car is my new daily driver. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Seth From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Thu Oct 11 12:55:25 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:55:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Windscreen, now acrylic cutting tools/blades In-Reply-To: References: <470E29E0.9010109@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <470E719D.8030205@hornesystemstx.com> I learned that one in the early 70's, in the machine shop in the department where I worked. They also would use it for cutting really thin metal, such as resizing heat exchanger cores (looked like radiator cores, but higher pressure and cols as lot more). You could run the core through the bandsaw and not tear the heck out of the fins. I've also put the bland on my circular saw backwards when cutting roofing metal or fiberglass patio covers. Makes a nice smooth cut. Oh, wear hearing protection, cutting in this manner is LOUD! Peace, Pat Thusly spake O'Farrell, Fergus: > blade on backwards, never tried that, clever. > The bandsaw blade I have used looks like the bandsaw equivalent of the > "slabbing" circular saw blade shown on this page. > http://www.ukam.com/diamond_blades_composites.htm > Diamond coated, so expensive, but lots of carbon/glass panels get cut, > so anything else just wears out in no time. > > < blade on backwards. >> It will melt the material instead of taking bites > out of it. > > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From msedlack at neo.rr.com Thu Oct 11 13:19:49 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:19:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Windscreen, now acrylic cutting tools/blades References: <470E29E0.9010109@hornesystemstx.com> <470E719D.8030205@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <006101c80c3b$b1683720$6501a8c0@p428ghz> There are acrylic-specific sabre saw blades for use in hand held, variable speed reciprocating saws. Just be sure to clamp the material firmly. You can get the acrylic sheet, blades, and edge polish at http://www.rplastics.com/plasticblades.html and others. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Horne" To: "O'Farrell, Fergus" Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Windscreen, now acrylic cutting tools/blades > I learned that one in the early 70's, in the machine shop in the > department where I worked. They also would use it for cutting really > thin metal, such as resizing heat exchanger cores (looked like radiator > cores, but higher pressure and cols as lot more). You could run the core > through the bandsaw and not tear the heck out of the fins. > > I've also put the bland on my circular saw backwards when cutting > roofing metal or fiberglass patio covers. Makes a nice smooth cut. > > Oh, wear hearing protection, cutting in this manner is LOUD! > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake O'Farrell, Fergus: > > blade on backwards, never tried that, clever. > > The bandsaw blade I have used looks like the bandsaw equivalent of the > > "slabbing" circular saw blade shown on this page. > > http://www.ukam.com/diamond_blades_composites.htm > > Diamond coated, so expensive, but lots of carbon/glass panels get cut, > > so anything else just wears out in no time. > > > > < > blade on backwards. >> It will melt the material instead of taking bites > > out of it. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From toolmansj2 at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 14:22:21 2007 From: toolmansj2 at comcast.net (toolmansj2 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:22:21 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 5 speed transmission help Message-ID: <101120072022.7219.470E85FC000B8F8600001C332216557996B6AC020E03040101AB@comcast.net> I currently have my 5 speed completly apart to install new bearings 2 things came to mind! 1. How can I tell if the syncros are worn out or need to be replaced? I dont want to just buy new ones just because, they are not cheap. This tranny is a borg warner type with brass syncros out of a late 69 model. 2. What part of the 5th gear should be welded I cant see anything that would break loose. I dont have a bad one to compare to. Any help with these questions will be appreciated Thanks Shaun Tracy Ca From d-solomon at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 15:50:19 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:50:19 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] messages to list?? Message-ID: <101120072150.176.470E9A9B00049A1B000000B022007340760201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> hey y'all: Sometimes I send messages to the list and they don't get there. specifically, today I sent a message that had a link to a photo, and it never showed up. What gives? help? thanks Dan From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 16:34:50 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:34:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] messages to list?? In-Reply-To: <101120072150.176.470E9A9B00049A1B000000B022007340760201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000301c80c56$f31e2920$6501a8c0@xp> Excellent question. Happens routinely to me, too. Sporadic, but often. Damned annoying. Any thoughts, Mark? Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of d-solomon at comcast.net Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:50 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] messages to list?? hey y'all: Sometimes I send messages to the list and they don't get there. specifically, today I sent a message that had a link to a photo, and it never showed up. What gives? help? thanks Dan From sales at foilgraphics.com Thu Oct 11 16:52:25 2007 From: sales at foilgraphics.com (Guy) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:52:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] messages to list?? References: <000301c80c56$f31e2920$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <01c601c80c59$67d368f0$6e01a8c0@sales2006> Yep. Happens to me too. Never sure if I am having a senior moment or if I am no longer "list worthy." Guy 67.5 stroker Chandler, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] messages to list?? > Excellent question. Happens routinely to me, too. Sporadic, but often. > Damned annoying. > > Any thoughts, Mark? > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of d-solomon at comcast.net > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:50 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] messages to list?? > > > hey y'all: > Sometimes I send messages to the list and they don't get there. > specifically, today I sent a message that had a link to a photo, and it > never showed up. What gives? > > help? > > thanks > > Dan > ________________________________________ > > sales at foilgraphics.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From slowboy at cox.net Thu Oct 11 18:55:15 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:55:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] messages to list?? References: <101120072150.176.470E9A9B00049A1B000000B022007340760201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <001201c80c6a$8d9889b0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> > Sometimes I send messages to the list and they don't get there. > specifically, today I sent a message that had a link to a photo, and it > never showed up. What gives? Nothing gives, it takes and takes and takes. It would take all the time but it occasionally screws up and we see messages. We're just under the impression that seeing messages is normal. ;O) From racery at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 19:26:25 2007 From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:26:25 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? Message-ID: <101220070126.15787.470ECD410004BCBB00003DAB2207300793979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> "I'm allready changing-out the rear for an IRS setup" What'cha using? I've got a ton of rear bmw 2002 subframes lying around- I should offer one up and see how ridiculous that would be. I suspect it would work pretty well, if one didn't mind making custom halfshafts, etc... it's a really compact setup, given what it can do. Of course, that's not really much of a HANDLING improvement with trailing arms, but I've got the parts, and maybe I like trailing throttle oversteer, huh? hee hee. Toby Seattle From john at roper-photo.com Thu Oct 11 19:28:08 2007 From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:28:08 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? In-Reply-To: <101220070126.15787.470ECD410004BCBB00003DAB2207300793979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <470ECE70.928A2.78C6@pop.directnic.com> >I've got a ton of rear bmw 2002 subframes lying >around- I should offer one up and see how ridiculous that would be. >it's a really compact setup, given what it can do. Use 510 stuff. Same design, cheaper, AND it's from a Datsun. ;^) From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Thu Oct 11 19:34:39 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:34:39 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re: [Shop-talk] trailer advice needed] Message-ID: <470ECF2F.6010203@hornesystemstx.com> I thought I sent this to the list, but evidently I didn't. so here it is. Peace, Pat ------------------------ I assume that your axle nut is a castle nut and there is a hole drilled through the axle for a cotter key. Might it be possible to drill another hole through? I would suspect that it is hardened, but using electromachining another hole could be added? You might also see about obtaining a few other nuts that fit, they might have different relationships between the thread and castle locations. Or try swapping nuts from axle to axle to see if that makes any difference. Finally, see if you can find any thinner nuts with the same thread to use with a jam plate between them to lock the nuts in place. >Any thoughts on how to take up the slack without machining custom spacers? _______________________________________________ roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Shop-talk mailing list http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/shop-talk -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From aultgc at jorsm.com Thu Oct 11 19:37:44 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:37:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01457176@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <013201c80c70$a2ea8c90$14a0aa42@gaxp1> Seth, I see you have had a number of responses. The best advice I saw was from Phil Hall, although the mobile home tie-down idea wasn't bad. You should replace both of the straps. While you're at it, check the rear mounting brackets, which are/were spot-welded to the trunk floor. No need to screw around with attaching the tank straps to the frame. Mine had a couple of broken spot welds, so I drilled out the broken welds (in my case, two per side) one at a time and replaced them with either 8-32 or 10-32 SS pan head screws and washers -- screw heads inside the trunk under the mat. Use whatever length is required to give you adequate threat engagement underneath with a flat washer and lockwasher. Use Locktite red on the threads. (Given the cross-section of the small spot welds, 8-32 is probably OK, and I can't tell from the screw heads just what size they are. I didn't crawl under the beast to look.) I am pretty sure they'll never come loose again. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Asher" To: Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 2:21 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 > Left hand gas tank strap broke, going over a wallow in road tday. AAA > towed > me to a muffler shop that spot-welded the strap back together for $40. > But, I > fear the right hand side is weakened because as the tank swung down when > the > left strap broke, it separated the last 4" inches rearward of the support > member under trunk that is sandwiched between tank and trunk bottom > sheetmetal. > > I am thinking of wirewheeling and JB Welding the lengthward straps, and > also > the sandwiched lengthward support beams, kinding of "painting" them with > JB > Weld...as it is it makes me nervous to drive the car over bumps. Kind of > ruined my day with this unexpected random event. > > There is no one around Hollywood I know who could affordably and quickly > install new straps, and even if they did, the sandwiched beams are still > weak. > Anyone have any suggestions? > > Anyone have any comments about whether my JB Weld idea for reinforcement > is a > good or bad idea? > > This is a pretty new car to me...anyone have any tips so I can ANTICIPATE > random things happening like the gas tank falling out?!?!? I haven't > inspected the whole car, so advice about major known-issues to check would > be > very helpful. > > This car is my new daily driver. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Seth > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1061 - Release Date: > 10/10/2007 > 8:43 AM > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ________________________________________ > > aultgc at jorsm.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From john at roper-photo.com Thu Oct 11 19:51:16 2007 From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:51:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? In-Reply-To: <470ED101.9040507@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <470ED3DD.98E72.76D7@pop.directnic.com> >I always wondered about going with a IRS similar to the mid-60's >Chrysler/Dodge front suspension with torsion bars... >Seemed like a nice way to go to IRS without going to struts. What will you do for spindles? And the BMW and 510 IRS don't have struts. From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Thu Oct 11 19:55:21 2007 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Houston, TX -> Car Show 10/13 8PM - Bring your Datsun Message-ID: <441400.44870.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> For those in the Houston, TX area, I'll be attending this weekend's Import Car Gathering at Planet Zero ( a Japanese Anime Arcade). It is an evening show, and 150+ cars show up. I've attended with my Datsun before and it has always been a great time! Here are a couple of photos from the last show: http://tinyurl.com/37y5v2 Details: 10/13/2007 : 8:00pm - 1:00am Planet Zero, 12303-J Westhiemer Rd. Houston, 77077 The Parking at Planet Zero consists of roughly 200 spots, those of which go to event supporters... and Planet Zero is pleased to provide the following security and enviroment for an awsome event! Not only that but we are on WESTHIEMER!!! Double Dave's pizzaria will also be offering a 15 % discount on any meal purchased! Just show your Planet Zero card for the discount. So come out for a great time, and awesome enviroment. Ladies - DJ's!! - Awesome Cars - Great People and more!! ***Wash those cars !!! alot of photographers will be out this event! *** Thanks, Dan Zubkoff Katy, TX From racery at comcast.net Thu Oct 11 19:56:19 2007 From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 01:56:19 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? Message-ID: <101220070156.28099.470ED443000A5C8200006DC32207300793979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> "Use 510 stuff. Same design, cheaper, AND it's from a Datsun. ;^)" Actually, how many 510s are left? I NEVER see any anymore. They used to be everywhere... (am I dating myself here?) Do occasionally get flashed by a 2002, though. 2002 parts are getting no more expensive, while Nissan stuff seems to be increasingly unobtanium. Nuts. Toby From mark at dealermats.com Thu Oct 11 20:05:57 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:05:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Gas Tank Strap Broke (left), Bent Support Member (right) - 1963 Fairlady 1500 References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01457176@omgserver3.omg.local> <013201c80c70$a2ea8c90$14a0aa42@gaxp1> Message-ID: <002301c80c74$6dd20840$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Attaching the straps to the frame keeps the weight of the tank from tearing the trunk floor, very common in these 40 year old cars :) ----- Original Message ----- No need > to screw around with attaching the tank straps to the frame. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Oct 11 20:27:43 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:27:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Windscreen In-Reply-To: References: <470E29E0.9010109@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <8C9DA8E9AB8CD1E-890-991B@WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com> A rear window arrangement like this one for a Jeep looks interesting too. It attaches to the roll bar www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2002708/p-2002708/N-111+10201+600016053/c-10101 Linda 68 1600 ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From john at roper-photo.com Thu Oct 11 20:27:43 2007 From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:27:43 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? In-Reply-To: <101220070156.28099.470ED443000A5C8200006DC32207300793979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <470EDC6E.C4BCD.2E36@pop.directnic.com> >Actually, how many 510s are left? I NEVER see any anymore. There's still a pretty good number left, but they are usually either not driven often, or always under construction... >They used to be everywhere... They used to be daily drivers. ;^) >(am I dating myself here?) Yes. Totally. :^P Seriously, they did import over 100,000 of these way back when, but best estimates have it at less than 2000 left now. But donors are slim, yes, as I'd bet 2002 donors are. If you want good options for IRS, I'd look at Miatas or the 240SX. From john at roper-photo.com Thu Oct 11 20:28:28 2007 From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:28:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS pics Message-ID: <470EDC95.8EFD.3221@pop.directnic.com> Yeah, I'm a little behind everyone else, but here they are... http://510garage.com/photos/thumbnails.php?album=270 John P. Roper Photography john at roper-photo.com Ph. 817-229-8329 From RWM at RWMann.com Fri Oct 12 05:02:49 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:02:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? In-Reply-To: <101220070126.15787.470ECD410004BCBB00003DAB2207300793979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> References: <101220070126.15787.470ECD410004BCBB00003DAB2207300793979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <470F5459.2020008@RWMann.com> So, I read the headline and immediately thought "with GPS so cheap, why would anyone consider IRS?" Never mind.... - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex, GPS nav... racery at comcast.net wrote: >"I'm allready changing-out the rear for an IRS setup" > > -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 mailto:info at RWMann.com >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. From graemes at internode.on.net Fri Oct 12 05:12:24 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:42:24 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? In-Reply-To: <470F5459.2020008@RWMann.com> References: <101220070126.15787.470ECD410004BCBB00003DAB2207300793979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> <470F5459.2020008@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <000001c80cc0$c4594ce0$426fa8c0@desktop> Now, that is deep, really deep! -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+graemes=internode.on.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+graemes=internode.on.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RWM (Out of the Office) Sent: Friday, 12 October 2007 8:33 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? So, I read the headline and immediately thought "with GPS so cheap, why would anyone consider IRS?" Never mind.... - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex, GPS nav... racery at comcast.net wrote: >"I'm allready changing-out the rear for an IRS setup" > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.8/1064 - Release Date: 11/10/2007 3:09 PM From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Fri Oct 12 06:41:58 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:41:58 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Windscreen In-Reply-To: <8C9DA8E9AB8CD1E-890-991B@WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com> References: <470E29E0.9010109@hornesystemstx.com> <8C9DA8E9AB8CD1E-890-991B@WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF761A9034@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> I thought about this for my Wrangler - but have to take it down to carry the kids. Nice idea and this would be very easy to make or have a upholstery shop make one up in minutes. Last time I was at my favorite shop, they had rolls of the clear plastic window material. And,,,, you could roll it up and put in the back deck area when the top is up... Gets one to thinking.... Ok Linda - get out that sewing machine:) Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:28 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Windscreen A rear window arrangement like this one for a Jeep looks interesting too. It attaches to the roll bar www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/tf-Browse/s-10101/Pr-p_Product.CATEN TRY_ID:2002708/p-2002708/N-111+10201+600016053/c-10101 Linda 68 1600 __ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Oct 12 08:01:26 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:01:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? In-Reply-To: <101220070156.28099.470ED443000A5C8200006DC32207300793979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002201c80cd8$64650370$6501a8c0@xp> Toby, Maybe not in downtown Seattle/Maple Leaf, but there's still quite a few dimes around here...heck, the whole West Coast. Just logon to Ratsun.net or The510Realm.com plus there's always some on craigslist. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of racery at comcast.net Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:56 PM To: roadster list Subject: Re: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? "Use 510 stuff. Same design, cheaper, AND it's from a Datsun. ;^)" Actually, how many 510s are left? I NEVER see any anymore. They used to be everywhere... (am I dating myself here?) Do occasionally get flashed by a 2002, though. 2002 parts are getting no more expensive, while Nissan stuff seems to be increasingly unobtanium. Nuts. Toby From matthews517 at earthlink.net Fri Oct 12 08:10:16 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:10:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? In-Reply-To: <470F5459.2020008@RWMann.com> Message-ID: RWM, GPS, IRS? Why GPS when getting lost in the roadster is SO MUCH FUN!?!?!?! If the IRS shows up at my house driving a roadster, I might even pay my taxes... out of respect for his/her choice of fine automobile! Hmmm. I can't think of anything for the RWM. Mainly because I suffer from CRS! Well everyone, keep your Rear Wheels in Motion! (That was bad. God I need more coffee!) LOL! MAS - SEROC Loreli, she's an SRL And Tater, he's a DOG TTFN! "So, I read the headline and immediately thought "with GPS so cheap, why would anyone consider IRS?" - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex, GPS nav..." racery at comcast.net wrote: "I'm already changing-out the rear for an IRS setup" From matthews517 at earthlink.net Fri Oct 12 08:29:44 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:29:44 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? In-Reply-To: <002201c80cd8$64650370$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: Toby, Not many years back (5 or 10) you couldn't swing a dead Honda without hitting one in L.A. They were all the rage for the ricer kids (just after they got out of their Bug/Ghia phase). And they were a "dime" a dozen. Someone shoot me. This can't go on. I woke up feeling very punny today. I seem to have come down with a case of Friday-itis. Cashews. Matt Smith - SEROC Jeez. How much orange juice was IN my vodka? Sorry. I'll stop. :-) "Use 510 stuff. Same design, cheaper, AND it's from a Datsun. ;^)" Actually, how many 510s are left? I NEVER see any anymore. They used to be everywhere... (am I dating myself here?) Do occasionally get flashed by a 2002, though. 2002 parts are getting no more expensive, while Nissan stuff seems to be increasingly unobtanium. Nuts. Toby From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Fri Oct 12 08:42:03 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:42:03 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? In-Reply-To: References: <002201c80cd8$64650370$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF761A90E7@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> BANG------------------------->Matt Don't worry Matt - Friday-ites has hit here too and I am sure spreading across the country... All I can think about is getting home early to work on my Roadster before the "activities" start for the weekend in which I will be lucky to even look at the Roadster until Sunday night - late. Yea, I would love to have another 510, but with 4 daily drivers I don't have the room - and my wife's "car" patience is about gone:) Alright - back to work... You too Matt:) Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:30 AM To: 'roadster list' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? Toby, Not many years back (5 or 10) you couldn't swing a dead Honda without hitting one in L.A. They were all the rage for the ricer kids (just after they got out of their Bug/Ghia phase). And they were a "dime" a dozen. Someone shoot me. This can't go on. I woke up feeling very punny today. I seem to have come down with a case of Friday-itis. Cashews. Matt Smith - SEROC Jeez. How much orange juice was IN my vodka? Sorry. I'll stop. :-) "Use 510 stuff. Same design, cheaper, AND it's from a Datsun. ;^)" Actually, how many 510s are left? I NEVER see any anymore. They used to be everywhere... (am I dating myself here?) Do occasionally get flashed by a 2002, though. 2002 parts are getting no more expensive, while Nissan stuff seems to be increasingly unobtanium. Nuts. Toby __ From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 12 08:47:24 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF761A90E7@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <853928.81856.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Speaking of "dimes" - If anyone out there who has one needs a spare motor for theirs, I have the L16 out of my old (and now long-gone) PL521 pickup. Needs a ring job (which is why I swapped it out for a low-miles import motor from Japan) but it has been slightly "breathed on" to the extent of L18 valves and a slightly warmer cam for better breathing. Ran very healthy with that setup and a 2-bbl Weber w/mechanical secondary. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" wrote: BANG------------------------->Matt Don't worry Matt - Friday-ites has hit here too and I am sure spreading across the country... All I can think about is getting home early to work on my Roadster before the "activities" start for the weekend in which I will be lucky to even look at the Roadster until Sunday night - late. Yea, I would love to have another 510, but with 4 daily drivers I don't have the room - and my wife's "car" patience is about gone:) Alright - back to work... You too Matt:) Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team .net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:30 AM To: 'roadster list' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? Toby, Not many years back (5 or 10) you couldn't swing a dead Honda without hitting one in L.A. They were all the rage for the ricer kids (just after they got out of their Bug/Ghia phase). And they were a "dime" a dozen. Someone shoot me. This can't go on. I woke up feeling very punny today. I seem to have come down with a case of Friday-itis. Cashews. Matt Smith - SEROC Jeez. How much orange juice was IN my vodka? Sorry. I'll stop. :-) "Use 510 stuff. Same design, cheaper, AND it's from a Datsun. ;^)" Actually, how many 510s are left? I NEVER see any anymore. They used to be everywhere... (am I dating myself here?) Do occasionally get flashed by a 2002, though. 2002 parts are getting no more expensive, while Nissan stuff seems to be increasingly unobtanium. Nuts. Toby __ ________________________________________ gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From akarcioglu at telus.net Fri Oct 12 09:12:24 2007 From: akarcioglu at telus.net (alp) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:12:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] roadster IRS Message-ID: <1192201944.470f8ed8a7c8b@webmail.telus.net> check out this dime! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Datsun-Nissan-Turbo-Rotary-Nissan-Datsun-510-1600-Street-Show-No-240Z_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6188QQihZ007QQitemZ170151787922QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW From gsglasgow at comcast.net Fri Oct 12 11:44:38 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:44:38 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF761A90E7@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: I told my boss I had eye trouble - I just couldn't see going in to work today! ;-) Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:42 AM > To: Matthew A. Smith; roadster list > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? > > > BANG------------------------->Matt > > Don't worry Matt - Friday-ites has hit here too and I am sure spreading > across the country... > > All I can think about is getting home early to work on my Roadster > before the "activities" start for the weekend in which I will be lucky > to even look at the Roadster until Sunday night - late. > > Yea, I would love to have another 510, but with 4 daily drivers I don't > have the room - and my wife's "car" patience is about gone:) > > Alright - back to work... You too Matt:) > > Phil > SEROC > > -----Original Message----- > From: > datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team > .net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:30 AM > To: 'roadster list' > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] IRS in a roadster? > > Toby, > Not many years back (5 or 10) you couldn't swing a dead Honda without > hitting one in L.A. They were all the rage for the ricer kids (just > after they got out of their Bug/Ghia phase). And they were a "dime" a > dozen. > > Someone shoot me. This can't go on. I woke up feeling very punny today. > I seem to have come down with a case of Friday-itis. > Cashews. > Matt Smith - SEROC > Jeez. How much orange juice was IN my vodka? Sorry. I'll stop. :-) > > > > "Use 510 stuff. Same design, cheaper, AND it's from a Datsun. ;^)" > > Actually, how many 510s are left? I NEVER see any anymore. They used to > be everywhere... (am I dating myself here?) Do occasionally get flashed > by a 2002, though. 2002 parts are getting no more expensive, while > Nissan stuff seems to be increasingly unobtanium. > Nuts. > Toby > __ > ________________________________________ > > gsglasgow at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Oct 12 18:54:58 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:54:58 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties & Posties (Rust) - Heads Up Message-ID: List Just doing some anal tidying up on Eliza waiting for the 5 speed to be assembled and noticed that there was rust under ALL the twisties. Posties were fine. My car is a California car, recently (4 years ago) seriously refurbished ( by a PO, Bunny) and other than washing and a few rainy days, not exposed to water. The posties typically come with a nylon washer that seems to keep the postie away from the paint work, but the twisties (at least as installed on Eliza) still had metal contact, since they are not 'flush' and the 'standard' washer was not thick enough to keep the twistie away from the body, hence rust. So, I just cut some rubber 'gaskets' to shape, polished the paint, polished the twistie and reinstalled. Just an FYI FWIIS ( or is that an IRS) Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From geegc at aol.com Fri Oct 12 19:18:22 2007 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:18:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: NFIBMT Six Month Notice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C9DB4E14DCF2AF-D38-59C@webmailbeta-m04.sysops.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: NFIBMT at aol.com To: EPas356 at aol.com Bcc: Geegc at aol.com Sent: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 5:27 pm Subject: NFIBMT Six Month Notice SIX MONTHS TO GO 10TH ANNUAL NO FRILLS IRON BOTTOM MOTORING TOUR Thursday, April 10th is the starting date for the 2008 NFIBMT The Rose Bowl in Pasadena is the starting point If you are late we donbt wait. Drivers meeting at 7:15AM. Start at 7:30AM.B B If you arrive at 7:35AM we will be gone. Now is the time to make your room reservations.B We will spend two nights in Paso Robles at the Black Oak Motor Lodge (April 10th and 11th)B 805-238-4740. No advance arrangements have been made. This is a No Frills event.B You are responsible for your own room arrangements, your own dining arrangements and you own car. ALL HANDS MEAL Thanks to the hard work of one of the disorganizers the ALL HANDS MEAL IS BACK.B On Saturday, April 12, 2008, we will enjoy a catered breakfast at Mission San Antonio de Padua. The breakfast is on an active U.S. Military Installation you must have current drivers license, registration and proof of insurance. Breakfast reservations are $20, per person and will be available Thursday at the starting line. Like everything in the NFIBMT participation is voluntary. PRE 1976 VEHICLES PLEASE If you need the 2008 event flyer request it by e-mail from NFIBMT at aol.com ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From michaelspreadbury at comcast.net Fri Oct 12 20:28:08 2007 From: michaelspreadbury at comcast.net (Michael Spreadbury) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:28:08 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Complete U20 Drive Train For Sale in OREGON Message-ID: <000d01c80d40$b1bd2450$6401a8c0@Office1> Complete U20 drive train for sale. When we say complete, we mean complete! >From radiator to driveshaft! Here is your chance to upgrade your 1600 to 2000 specs, or freshen up a tired drive train. Engine: U20 2000cc engine (serial number 10901). This engine has an early non-smog fitting head on it, and is clean under the valve cover (cam is marked with an A). The engine runs and has excellent compression across all cylinders (#1: 143 psi, #2: 143 psi, #3 149 psi, #4: 151 psi). Oil pressure is excellent at idle, and other than a slight timing chain noise at idle, it appears to be clean and strong. No smoke or other strange noises. Engine has a standard steel oil pan, and SU carbs. Transmission: 5-speed transmission. Trans shifts nicely in all forward gears, as well as reverse. We downshifted back through the gears with no noise or crunching. Other parts: New Datsun radiator hoses, alternator is charging great, radiator has a rebuild tag on it. Alternator, fuel pump, radiator, fan, shroud, air cleaner assembly, coil, voltage regulator, right down to the shift knob is all included. As a bonus, we will also throw in a gift certificate for rebuilt SU carb bodies from Z-Therapy (a $250 value)!!! The engine/transmission is still located in the car, and can be run for a potential customer before purchase. We will pull the engine and transmission and place it into your vehicle-- you don't even need to get your hands dirty! See the photographs and e-mail or give me a call with any questions. 971.244.3093 (ask for Eric) Price? $1500 firm! I prefer local pickup, but can arrange shipment for a serious customer if necessary. Location: Corvallis, Oregon E-mail me directly for links to high-resolution photographs (as I recall, this list does not allow hot links in e-mail messages!) From djaes at optusnet.com.au Sat Oct 13 05:33:17 2007 From: djaes at optusnet.com.au (David Jones) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:33:17 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns - Roadsters and 510's - The lack of. Message-ID: <200710131133.l9DBXHCu024186@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> G'day all. I have just arrived back in AUS from five weeks travelling around the USA and was disappointed in the lack of Datsun's on the road. The first "Datto" we saw was a white Roadster in outer San Diego. The next ones we saw were at Michael Spreadburys' "Skunk Works" and the last one (Roadster) I looked at belonged to Jeff in Columbus. I did not see a single 510 on the road, and only saw four early Z's. Is this the norm in the USA? Cheers, Dave Nissan Datsun Sports Owners Club Melbourne Australia www.ndsoc.com.au From RoadsterGB at aol.com Sat Oct 13 05:53:32 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 07:53:32 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns - Roadsters and 510's - The lack of. Message-ID: Hey Dave, from where I'm sitting it sounds like you were lucky. I'd love to see more than 3 roadsters on one trip. In England, apart from my cars, I've only seen one roadster in 4 years - and one 510 (1600) in 7 years ... Best from the other side of the world. Rob _www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Sat Oct 13 07:37:56 2007 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 09:37:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns - Roadsters and 510's - The lack of. In-Reply-To: <200710131133.l9DBXHCu024186@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <000701c80d9e$43dbc7d0$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR> "I did not see a single 510 on the road, and only saw four early Z's. Is this the norm in the USA?" Hello Dave and list Here in western NY Dattos are even rarer on the road - due to the long snowy winters and the road salt. We don't even have any vendors around - that I know of anyway. First time I saw a roadster on the road was at the Glen this year. It was great fun to drive the wine route with three other roadsters. I drive my cars regularly on road tours, to work, out to dinner, to nowhere, just for the fun of it...Hardtops for the cold days, topless roadsters for the sunny and warm ones. I restored my 71 510 last winter so I drive her in a regular rotation with my other Datsuns. They are all "daily drivers". I have yet to see another 510 on the road or even parked or junked or under restoration. Occasionally, I will spot a Z car on the road - but not often. I had a little girl walk by me as I parked the 510 at a store and remark to her mom - "What an ugly car!" LOL. Most people around here don't even recognize Datsuns - unless they drove one in the past. The first time I drove the 510 to the grocery store a lady stopped her car and said "Oh my God is that a Datsun 510? I had one just like it in college." (Smiles all around) I do find that many 510 parts are still available from retail auto parts stores - not quite to the level of Z cars but certainly better than roadsters. Keep 'em on the road! Joe 70 SPL311 (U20) 70 SRL311 (newly acquired) 71 PL510 L18 SSS 72 HLS30 From datrock at centurytel.net Sat Oct 13 10:04:05 2007 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 09:04:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Trying to fix my 67's wiper issues Message-ID: <4710EC75.6000200@centurytel.net> Hi everyone, it has been a while since I posted to the list. I am in search of some wiper parts for an early car, this is for a 67. When I recieved the car both of the wiper shafts were broke off at the arm mount at the cowl. I have already made my own shafts, welded them to the short connecting arms then drilled the ends to pin on some shaft collars I serated for the mounting head, they are not a "thing of beauty", but they will be hidden and will work great, my problem is that one of the wiper shaft housings is all broken up on the base. So anyone out there have any used 66-67 wiper housings or just ones with broke shafts? . If so email me with a price that you may want for one or two of them.Or if you have two useable pivots ready to bolt on let me know. Thanks ahead of time. Bill Cole From jklingman at stny.rr.com Sat Oct 13 12:54:00 2007 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 14:54:00 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] road trip/2008 planning Message-ID: <001101c80dca$6b05b470$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Just got back from 3 days in VT plotting a roadster fun run / rally for 2008 . Ran up RT 100 through the Green Mts, cruised the flat land along Lake Champlain. Awesome views and great roads. Found some passes that looked like the Tail of the Dragon's Yankee cousins. We saw lots of color including white knuckles. We stayed in Bristol, VT, at the Dream House B&B owned by George Landis ( '69 1600) and his wife Susan Small. We will be back there for the 4th of July to join George and Susan in the Bristol parade and celebration. This is an invite to any other roadster owners to join us. 2 Datsuns are a parade, how many can we get? Saturday the 5th we will be taking a roadster tour, perhaps crossing the lake on the ferry . George has a great '69 1600, white with the most awesome custom burgundy interior. When we came through Bennington, VT we stopped at Hemmings to pick up a couple of back issues. That is a must do if you are going that way. John and Gloria Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike From kendelmccarley at cox.net Sat Oct 13 16:42:01 2007 From: kendelmccarley at cox.net (kendelmccarley at cox.net) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:42:01 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Carb cap and damper rod needed Message-ID: <20071013184201.YV287.24456.root@fed1wml02.mgt.cox.net> Now that I've finally getting fuel to the carbs (had to bake a hard line on my barbecue this morning to free up the gunk that was clogging it), I see that I'm missing one of the damper rods that threads into the top of the dashpots. The previous owner had threaded a mismatched cap on there to plug the hole, but of course the thing won't accelerate at all without the damper. Does anyone have a spare one of these in their parts stash? From garytew at cox.net Sat Oct 13 17:17:43 2007 From: garytew at cox.net (Gary Tew) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 16:17:43 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] screw size? Message-ID: <47115217.9070101@cox.net> I'm looking for the correct hardware to install the upholstered angled trim piece that goes around the back of the cockpit tub. Not sure if it uses nuts/washers or sheetmetal screws. Size? Thanks for the help/ Gary Tew Phoenix, AZ early '67 1600 From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Oct 13 18:57:25 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:27:25 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] screw size? In-Reply-To: <47115217.9070101@cox.net> References: <47115217.9070101@cox.net> Message-ID: <000301c80dfd$301f6530$426fa8c0@desktop> Well, my Parts Manual says they are 3/32" machine screws BUT, when I check the body it appears that the MOULDING-waist is held on with 10 countersunk self tapping screws, 3/32 x 1/2"???? I wouldn't think that they would have nuts on them, that would be VERY cruel to assemble. I would advise stainless screws for best weather protection I'm looking for the correct hardware to install the upholstered angled trim piece that goes around the back of the cockpit tub. Not sure if it uses nuts/washers or sheetmetal screws. Size? Thanks for the help/ Gary Tew Phoenix, AZ early '67 1600 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1067 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 6:02 PM From d-solomon at comcast.net Sat Oct 13 19:23:44 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:23:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns - Roadsters and 510's - The lack of. In-Reply-To: <200710131133.l9DBXHCu024186@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200710131133.l9DBXHCu024186@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <47116FA0.4010001@comcast.net> I had never seen a Datsun Roadster prior to purchasing mine. Quite honestly, that's the biggest reason I bought it. (I like things that are different) I was familiar with the 510, but have only seen a handful in my life (I'm 36) Other than that... Datsun? What's that? they are very uncommon in the USA David Jones wrote: > G'day all. > > > > I have just arrived back in AUS from five weeks travelling around the USA > and was disappointed in the lack of Datsun's on the road. The first "Datto" > we saw was a white Roadster in outer San Diego. The next ones we saw were > at Michael Spreadburys' "Skunk Works" and the last one (Roadster) I looked > at belonged to Jeff in Columbus. I did not see a single 510 on the road, > and only saw four early Z's. > > > > Is this the norm in the USA? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Dave > > Nissan Datsun Sports Owners Club > > Melbourne > > Australia > > www.ndsoc.com.au > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matthews517 at earthlink.net Sat Oct 13 20:32:18 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:32:18 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] screw size? In-Reply-To: <000301c80dfd$301f6530$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: Loreli came with 1/2 inch #8 machine screws. I replaced them with oval topped stainless screws and finish washers (the kind of hump shaped ones). Since then, I've replaced THOSE with screw in snap connectors. When I put a stereo in the car, I wanted to cover the 6x9 speaker boxes that are on the back shelf, for security reasons. I bought a snap kit at home depot and used some vinyl. Voila, mini tonneau! Don't know about the early '67, but my '70 has 11 screws there, not 10. (I know this because I had to go BACK to home depot for another package of screws. I bought two packs of five the first time) Matt On Behalf Of Graeme Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:57 PM To: 'Gary Tew'; 'datsun list datsun' Subject: Re: [Roadsters] screw size? Well, my Parts Manual says they are 3/32" machine screws BUT, when I check the body it appears that the MOULDING-waist is held on with 10 countersunk self tapping screws, 3/32 x 1/2"???? I wouldn't think that they would have nuts on them, that would be VERY cruel to assemble. I would advise stainless screws for best weather protection I'm looking for the correct hardware to install the upholstered angled trim piece that goes around the back of the cockpit tub. Not sure if it uses nuts/washers or sheetmetal screws. Size? Thanks for the help/ Gary Tew Phoenix, AZ early '67 1600 From matthews517 at earthlink.net Sat Oct 13 20:35:22 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:35:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI resistor? Message-ID: A quick one this time! Does anyone know the correct resistor rating (ohms) for the Delco 10SI alternator? Will there be catastrophic results if I don't have one in there? Matt Smith - SEROC From vlaury at roadrunner.com Sat Oct 13 20:39:42 2007 From: vlaury at roadrunner.com (Victor Laury) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:39:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS pics In-Reply-To: <470EDC95.8EFD.3221@pop.directnic.com> Message-ID: <000f01c80e0b$7b321cd0$ef30534b@your6jnhhu0520> Nice pictures John! Did ya have fun? -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+vlaury=roadrunner.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+vlaury=roadrunner.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Roper Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 7:28 PM To: 'bluebirds' Cc: 'roadster list' Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS pics Yeah, I'm a little behind everyone else, but here they are... http://510garage.com/photos/thumbnails.php?album=270 John P. Roper Photography john at roper-photo.com Ph. 817-229-8329 ________________________________________ vlaury at roadrunner.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Oct 13 21:04:28 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:04:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI resistor? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201c80e0e$efc427c0$6501a8c0@xp> What resistor are you referring to? Pete "scratching his head" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:35 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI resistor? A quick one this time! Does anyone know the correct resistor rating (ohms) for the Delco 10SI alternator? Will there be catastrophic results if I don't have one in there? Matt Smith - SEROC From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Oct 13 21:26:05 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 12:56:05 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI resistor? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001c80e11$f4ee7400$426fa8c0@desktop> Coils have resistors, alternators may have a radio suppression device on the Active terminal. The coil will overheat and possibly burnout if it is designed for an external resistor and there is not one fitted. The alternator may inject noise into your radio/hi fi/lo fi without the suppressor. Delco 10SI resistor? A quick one this time! Does anyone know the correct resistor rating (ohms) for the Delco 10SI alternator? Will there be catastrophic results if I don't have one in there? Matt Smith - SEROC _ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1067 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 6:02 PM From matthews517 at earthlink.net Sat Oct 13 21:29:28 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:29:28 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI resistor? In-Reply-To: <001201c80e0e$efc427c0$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: Sorry. It's kind of a white coil looking thing that goes between the non insulated ground screw on the voltage regulator (the one closest to the prong contacts) and the insulated brush mounting screw (the one that the diodes attach to). It's about 1 1/4 inches long with a contact on each end for the screws to mount to. I didn't burn it up, I'm rebuilding a spare alternator which I dismantled months ago, and that's the one piece I lost. I know I can get one at an alternator shop, but they're not open on Sunday and I have to be in Nashville tomorrow night. I figured a parts house may be able to help if I know what I'm looking for. I did something very bad to the alternator that's in the car right now. Suffice it to say that hooking an alternator up incorrectly makes diodes EXPLODE, not just burn up! :-( Oh. Never forget to take out the pin that holds the brushes back during re-assembly either. HAHAHAHA! Arcing like you wouldn't believe! It was 2 inches long when I put it in. It was half an inch long when I took it out. Thanks in advance! Matt - "pounding his head with a ball peen hammer" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:04 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI resistor? What resistor are you referring to? Pete "scratching his head" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Matthew A. Smith Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:35 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI resistor? A quick one this time! Does anyone know the correct resistor rating (ohms) for the Delco 10SI alternator? Will there be catastrophic results if I don't have one in there? Matt Smith - SEROC ________________________________________ matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From john at roper-photo.com Sat Oct 13 21:55:32 2007 From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:55:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] JCCS pics In-Reply-To: <000f01c80e0b$7b321cd0$ef30534b@your6jnhhu0520> Message-ID: <47119405.2D3DE.595A@pop.directnic.com> >Nice pictures John! Did ya have fun? No, I had a BLAST!!!!!!!!!! From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Oct 13 23:57:52 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:57:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] screw size? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: King Bolts 4680 N Grand Ave Covina, CA 91724 (626) 339-8400 They have the little 'shoulderless' finishing washers (stainless) that are replacements for the 6 washers that go on the cowl grille. (That at least is in the parts manual ) My recollection from 30 years ago is that all the mouldings, the door caps etc. used these finishing washers to avoid friction between the screw and the material (usually softer) that it was screwing down. They are about 15c apiece and I think I used about 40 to fiinish the car. Additionally, IMHO, they set the screw off nicely and help to centre it. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >From: "Matthew A. Smith" >To: >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] screw size? >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:32:18 -0400 > >Loreli came with 1/2 inch #8 machine screws. I replaced them with oval >topped stainless screws and finish washers (the kind of hump shaped ones). >Since then, I've replaced THOSE with screw in snap connectors. When I put a >stereo in the car, I wanted to cover the 6x9 speaker boxes that are on the >back shelf, for security reasons. I bought a snap kit at home depot and >used >some vinyl. Voila, mini tonneau! >Don't know about the early '67, but my '70 has 11 screws there, not 10. (I >know this because I had to go BACK to home depot for another package of >screws. I bought two packs of five the first time) >Matt > >On Behalf Of Graeme >Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:57 PM >To: 'Gary Tew'; 'datsun list datsun' >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] screw size? > >Well, my Parts Manual says they are 3/32" machine screws BUT, when I check >the body it appears that the MOULDING-waist is held on with 10 countersunk >self tapping screws, 3/32 x 1/2"???? >I wouldn't think that they would have nuts on them, that would be VERY >cruel >to assemble. >I would advise stainless screws for best weather protection > >I'm looking for the correct hardware to install the upholstered angled trim >piece that goes around the back of the cockpit tub. Not sure if it uses >nuts/washers or sheetmetal screws. Size? Thanks for the help/ > >Gary Tew >Phoenix, AZ >early '67 1600 >________________________________________ > >granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Oct 14 00:02:42 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:02:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns - Roadsters and 510's - The lack of. In-Reply-To: <47116FA0.4010001@comcast.net> Message-ID: My local experience (Southern California) is that there are only one or two that I see driving around (apart from members cars), but that whenever I take my car to an informal 'cruise' night, I never get to leave my car. People either used to have one, dad had one, boyfriend etc. and they love to reminisce. Even at a Bentley Drivers Club/Aston Martin Owners Club holiday dinner last year, my car got as much attention as did a recently acquired 1937 V12 Lagonda. FWIW Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >From: Daniel Solomon >To: David Jones >CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsuns - Roadsters and 510's - The lack of. >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:23:44 -0700 > >I had never seen a Datsun Roadster prior to purchasing mine. Quite >honestly, that's the biggest reason I bought it. (I like things that >are different) >I was familiar with the 510, but have only seen a handful in my life >(I'm 36) > >Other than that... >Datsun? What's that? they are very uncommon in the USA > >David Jones wrote: > > G'day all. > > > > > > > > I have just arrived back in AUS from five weeks travelling around the >USA > > and was disappointed in the lack of Datsun's on the road. The first >"Datto" > > we saw was a white Roadster in outer San Diego. The next ones we saw >were > > at Michael Spreadburys' "Skunk Works" and the last one (Roadster) I >looked > > at belonged to Jeff in Columbus. I did not see a single 510 on the >road, > > and only saw four early Z's. > > > > > > > > Is this the norm in the USA? > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Dave > > > > Nissan Datsun Sports Owners Club > > > > Melbourne > > > > Australia > > > > www.ndsoc.com.au > > ________________________________________ > > > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ > >granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Oct 14 00:48:06 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:48:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns - Roadsters and 510's - The lack of. In-Reply-To: <200710131133.l9DBXHCu024186@mail06.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <001c01c80e2e$3062b980$6501a8c0@xp> Guess I'm spoiled. I see dimes and trucks (520/620/720) at least once a week plus the occassional 210 or 710. Only see a roadster a couple-three times a year. ` ___ ' Pete - (O o) - ------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo---- Lake Forest Park, WA 1966 1600 SPL311 1966 L20B WPL411 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Jones Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:33 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns - Roadsters and 510's - The lack of. G'day all. I have just arrived back in AUS from five weeks travelling around the USA and was disappointed in the lack of Datsun's on the road. The first "Datto" we saw was a white Roadster in outer San Diego. The next ones we saw were at Michael Spreadburys' "Skunk Works" and the last one (Roadster) I looked at belonged to Jeff in Columbus. I did not see a single 510 on the road, and only saw four early Z's. Is this the norm in the USA? Cheers, Dave Nissan Datsun Sports Owners Club Melbourne Australia www.ndsoc.com.au From matthews517 at earthlink.net Sun Oct 14 06:13:10 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:13:10 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI resistor? In-Reply-To: <000001c80e11$f4ee7400$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: Graeme, This makes sense. One alternator I purchased (brand new Delco true one wire alt) from eBay didn't have one. Turns out, the "true one wire alt" is designed for a farm tractor, not automobiles. Totally useless part for me except the case looks pretty since I painted it bright yellow! Live and learn. I only use my stereo to run my iPod, so I'm going to go ahead and put it together without the resistor for now. Pep boys, here I come for yet another alternator if this doesn't work! Matt -----Original Message----- From: Graeme [mailto:graemes at internode.on.net] Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:26 PM To: 'Matthew A. Smith'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Delco 10SI resistor? Coils have resistors, alternators may have a radio suppression device on the Active terminal. The coil will overheat and possibly burnout if it is designed for an external resistor and there is not one fitted. The alternator may inject noise into your radio/hi fi/lo fi without the suppressor. Delco 10SI resistor? A quick one this time! Does anyone know the correct resistor rating (ohms) for the Delco 10SI alternator? Will there be catastrophic results if I don't have one in there? Matt Smith - SEROC _ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.9/1067 - Release Date: 12/10/2007 6:02 PM From matthews517 at earthlink.net Sun Oct 14 06:36:22 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:36:22 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Hood Muffling Material Message-ID: Everyone, If you remember this thread, I thought I'd include an addendum. I found that when cut correctly, a piece of this material can be used VERY WELL to make an easily removable "front cab" tonneau. Trim to shape, cut some small holes for the dash twisties. Cut some slightly larger holes for the headrest tubes. Roll up the piece, and hook the front twisties. Get out of the car, pull out your headrests out and slide them back down over the holes you made for that purpose. No more burned butt, no more 900 degree shifter knob, no more getting your hands cauterized to the steering wheel on those hot days! Just an afterthought. Mine works fine! Matt > Hi Brad! > 3M trim adhesive. Part number 08088 or 3m super trim adhesive PN 08090. > Any > auto parts store. I used a large blanket to cover the front of my car when > I > sprayed. I also had removed all the jute which had been glued in place by > prior owner and found that there was white powdery stuff and some > corrosion > above the battery. I neutralized that, covered with Rustoleum and put the > insul on top. Nice thing is, this stuff will act as a vapor barrier as > well, > so that problem is now solved. > Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad and Gayle Holmes [mailto:bradandgayle at charter.net] > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:42 PM > To: Matthew A. Smith > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Hood Muffling Material > > Hi Matt > > I'm about to the place on my '70 where I'll need this type of insulation. > How does it stick to the surface? > > Brad > SEROC > >> Peter wrote: >> Thinking of putting some muffling/baffling material under the hood to >> quieten things down a bit. Are there any known concerns re engine >> compartment temperature? >> >> Peter >> Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >> >> I just put this stuff on the inside of the hood (double layer actually, >> though I didn't really need the second). >> http://www.lobucrod.com/index.htm >> >> He also sells on eBay (search automotive insulation) and ships quick >> (FedEx >> ground). Mine came a day earlier than FedEx said it would. >> >> It's kind of like some of the material used for windshield sun shades. >> >> It can also be used on the firewall/inner fenders. For the firewall, it >> will >> probably be easier from the inside of the car. >> >> I've already also lined the inside of the door panels. It's getting >> quieter >> all the time. I still have enough to line the inside of the hardtop (once >> it >> arrives). >> >> I'm going to buy a second (4x10) roll to do the interior floor once I >> decide >> to replace the carpet. That should help with the heat and noise from that >> exhaust pipe which sits 4 inches from our butts! >> >> Matt Smith >> And Loreli From will-mart14 at cox.net Sun Oct 14 10:06:53 2007 From: will-mart14 at cox.net (will-mart14 at cox.net) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 12:06:53 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Chrome Message-ID: <20071014120653.4YUKY.178223.root@fed1wml20> So i finally got my transmisson to my 2000 and will be able to but it in soon and on the road. but im missing the stylish chrome bar that goes around the air intake on the hood anyone know where i can get this part cheap? From RWM at RWMann.com Sun Oct 14 14:32:58 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:32:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160733206 Message-ID: <47127CFA.5040608@RWMann.com> Not an interested party, except to note the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200160733206 From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Oct 14 14:40:31 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:40:31 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160733206 In-Reply-To: <47127CFA.5040608@RWMann.com> References: <47127CFA.5040608@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <8C9DCB998F03623-E44-77E0@MBLK-M38.sysops.aol.com> Maybe the bidders read the article in Hemmings Sept Sports & Exotics Car magazine about the Roadster. Now they want one. But will they care when the latest magazine edition hits the stand? Linda -----Original Message----- From: RWM (Out of the Office) To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 1:32 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160733206 Not an interested party, except to note the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200160733206 ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From wchmch at aol.com Sun Oct 14 16:00:03 2007 From: wchmch at aol.com (wchmch at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:00:03 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160733206 In-Reply-To: <8C9DCB998F03623-E44-77E0@MBLK-M38.sysops.aol.com> References: <47127CFA.5040608@RWMann.com> <8C9DCB998F03623-E44-77E0@MBLK-M38.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C9DCC4B50C4791-1B8-8E70@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> Three years of work, $12.5? Given the incredible appreciation elsewhere in the vintage market, I can't say I'm bowled over by the price. Am I missing something? ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sun Oct 14 16:40:33 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:40:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160733206 In-Reply-To: <8C9DCC4B50C4791-1B8-8E70@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> References: <47127CFA.5040608@RWMann.com> <8C9DCB998F03623-E44-77E0@MBLK-M38.sysops.aol.com> <8C9DCC4B50C4791-1B8-8E70@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C9DCCA5DB34AD2-1F8-481A@FWM-M35.sysops.aol.com> Well what might be missing is the uneven nature of the appreciation for vintage cars. The Japanese cars are gaining but still not as overall desirable as American muscle cars etc. by the general public, in my opinion. That appreciation is a bit like fashion. It's what's hot, who drives what, parts availability, maybe even gas prices? Who knows all of what drives the interest, but I don't think it is even mainly the number of hours put into a car. That might impress the enthusiast a bit, at least as a starting point. My .02 cents Linda -----Original Message----- From: wchmch at aol.com To: ljordan704 at netscape.net; RWM at RWMann.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 3:00 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160733206 Three years of work, $12.5? Given the incredible appreciation elsewhere in the vintage market, I can't say I'm bowled over by the price. Am I missing something?? ? ? ________________________________________________________________________? Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com? ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Sun Oct 14 16:51:58 2007 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:51:58 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 5 speed transmission help In-Reply-To: <101120072022.7219.470E85FC000B8F8600001C332216557996B6AC020E03040101AB@comcast.net> References: <101120072022.7219.470E85FC000B8F8600001C332216557996B6AC020E03040101AB@comcast.net> Message-ID: hi shaun, you should be able to see splines on the 5th gear somewhere.(probably have to have it off the main shaft), or welds if it has been welded. i would put in 1st and 2nd gear synch. at the least. they always wear soonest. im not sure you can look at the synch. and tell if they are bad enough to grind the gears. dont forget to replace the roll pins on the shift forks. use either double thick pins or new (or good) stock, roll pins and drive the solid end of a 3/32 drill bit inside the stock pin and break it off flush. about 5th gear: i think you can look at the next line outside of the inside brg. race; it should be splined to the gear part, or welded,(if repaired already). try to use as many of the seals in the kit as poss. especially the front main shaft and rear shifter rod seals. best of luck, bob smith,ohio 1969 srl311 >>> From: toolmansj2 at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:22:21 +0000> Subject: [Roadsters] 5 speed transmission help> > I currently have my 5 speed completly apart to install new bearings 2 things came to mind!> > 1. How can I tell if the syncros are worn out or need to be replaced? I dont want to just buy new ones just because, they are not cheap. This tranny is a borg warner type with brass syncros out of a late 69 model. > > 2. What part of the 5th gear should be welded I cant see anything that would break loose. I dont have a bad one to compare to.> > Any help with these questions will be appreciated> Thanks Shaun Tracy Ca> ________________________________________> > rksmith46 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Oct 14 18:52:15 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:52:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 2001607332 In-Reply-To: <47127CFA.5040608@RWMann.com> Message-ID: SO Eliza's PO spent 27K on s body on resto (including 2.5k on car purchase). I bought it for 10.5 and have so far spent another 3-4K on bits and pieces. Unless you are playing at the high end of the automotive market, you almost NEVER get back what you put into the car. And that really isn't the point. It's a hobby, and unlike playing golf (sorry Ron) you have something to show for the expense. And if that car is as good as it is described - 13-14K for a beautiful 2 seater - how much are Miatas going for these days? Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >From: "RWM (Out of the Office)" >To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" >Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # >200160733206 >Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:32:58 -0400 > >Not an interested party, except to note the price. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200160733206 >________________________________________ > >granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drlsmith at dccnet.com Mon Oct 15 00:11:32 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 23:11:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] R16 Header flange? Message-ID: <000a01c80ef2$3c6f49e0$4f2fcf18@Daryl> Do any of the vendors have a header flange for the R16 engine ? Would save me some time if I could get a the thick flange which is on the newer headers..... Thanks Daryl From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 15 06:19:02 2007 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 05:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 2001607332 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <528468.30156.qm@web52807.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Well, there are some great deals out there on Miatas if you shop around. I recently bought a beautiful '91 that I am having a ball with. Everything works, the car looks like new, never wrecked, a few blemishes here and there, but normal for a car that is driven, it does have over 200k on the odo, but drives and runs flawlessly. $2000. It gets 33 mpg regularly, and I drive it a lot. I do not like it as much as my roadster, but it is fun and cheap transportation. I love to see the roadster appreciation though... Mike SC '66 1600 (Jessie) '91 Miata (Mitzi) --- peter harrison wrote: > SO Eliza's PO spent 27K on s body on resto > (including 2.5k on car purchase). > I bought it for 10.5 and have so far spent another > 3-4K on bits and pieces. > Unless you are playing at the high end of the > automotive market, you almost > NEVER get back what you put into the car. > > And that really isn't the point. It's a hobby, and > unlike playing golf > (sorry Ron) you have something to show for the > expense. > > And if that car is as good as it is described - > 13-14K for a beautiful 2 > seater - how much are Miatas going for these days? > > Peter > Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From matthews517 at earthlink.net Mon Oct 15 09:09:06 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:09:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] R16 Header flange? In-Reply-To: <000a01c80ef2$3c6f49e0$4f2fcf18@Daryl> Message-ID: Daryl, That's probably going to be tough to find without buying a whole new header. The flange for my U20 header was custom cut with a plasma cutter out of 1/2" steel, and then the tubes re-welded to that. The machine shop really seemed to know what they were doing, too. They added some very small cuts (like with a band saw) from the bolt (stud) holes to the outside of the flange as expansion joints, since it's bolted to an aluminum head. It shouldn't cost too much. Take your header to a machine shop. They'll make you one right then, most likely. They could probably even cut the old flange off and re-attach the pipes to it. A muffler shop may or may not be able to make the flange, but they could certainly attach it to your header. I wasn't able to find just the flange from the vendors. Personally, I'd buy a new one and eBay your current one to recover the shipping costs of the new one. Dean's site, http://www.datsunparts.com/exhaust) has new headers (1/2 inch flange) from $120 - $245, depending on just what you want. The more expensive ones are ceramic coated. Rallye's (http://www.datsunroadster.com/SUB_SECTION_DIRECTORIES/exhaust.htm) appear to range from $164 - $244. Don's (http://www.risingsunracing.com./parts_new_exhaust.htm) are $169.95. My two cents! Matt Smith - SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 2:12 AM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] R16 Header flange? Do any of the vendors have a header flange for the R16 engine ? Would save me some time if I could get a the thick flange which is on the newer headers..... Thanks Daryl ________________________________________ matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Oct 15 10:30:27 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:30:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160733206 In-Reply-To: <47127CFA.5040608@RWMann.com> Message-ID: <001301c80f48$b233f2b0$6501a8c0@xp> Seems like a fair price considering the work done. "...I WAS JUST ABLE TO DRIVE IT THIS SUMMER TO REALIZE BOTH OF MY KIDS AND WIFE ALL WANT TO BE IN IT AT THE SAME TIME. I NEED SOMETHING BIGGER..." Yeah, but what has a backseat that's gonna be as much fun? Probably cost a lot more, too. Call me selfish, but the roadster is for me. The Chrysler is for when I need to carry a crew. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RWM (Out of the Office) Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 1:33 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160733206 Not an interested party, except to note the price. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200160733206 Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From reblues at reblues.net Mon Oct 15 10:38:39 2007 From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:38:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160733206 References: <001301c80f48$b233f2b0$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <019801c80f49$d75d3be0$6701a8c0@ACER4230> Sounds like you need a second roadster. One for the wife & one Kid. One for you and the other. Problem solveed. Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160733206 > Seems like a fair price considering the work done. > > "...I WAS JUST ABLE TO DRIVE IT THIS SUMMER TO REALIZE BOTH OF MY KIDS AND > WIFE ALL WANT TO BE IN IT AT THE SAME TIME. I NEED SOMETHING BIGGER..." > > Yeah, but what has a backseat that's gonna be as much fun? Probably cost a > lot more, too. Call me selfish, but the roadster is for me. The Chrysler > is > for when I need to carry a crew. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of RWM (Out of the Office) > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 1:33 PM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # > 200160733206 > > > Not an interested party, except to note the price. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200160733206 > Datsun-roadsters mailing list From drlsmith at dccnet.com Mon Oct 15 11:11:27 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:11:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] R16 Header flange? References: Message-ID: <002901c80f4e$6d141ec0$4f2fcf18@Daryl> Thanks Matt, > The flange for my U20 header was custom cut with a plasma cutter out of > 1/2" > steel, and then the tubes re-welded to that. I was thinking I may have to do that. I know a place up here that does water cutting that may be able to cut it for me. May not be much more to cut a few of them.......Will look them up in the next couple weeks. >They added some very small cuts (like > with a band saw) from the bolt (stud) holes to the outside of the flange > as > expansion joints, since it's bolted to an aluminum head. I've seen that on several of the aftermarket headers and wondered what it was for...... > It shouldn't cost too much. Take your header to a machine shop. They'll > make > you one right then, most likely. They could probably even cut the old > flange > off and re-attach the pipes to it. A muffler shop may or may not be able > to > make the flange, but they could certainly attach it to your header. I am finally getting around to making my custom headers. So not a repair job. Couple of design features in the currently available header that I don't like which could/should be easily resolved. The biggest one being the collector. (merge collector would not be expensive to add at the manufacturing stage.....) Working on a 4-2-1 design, possibly with the ability to bolt or strap to the original point by the motor mount to help prevent cracking etc. Thanks for the note! Daryl > I wasn't able to find just the flange from the vendors. Personally, I'd > buy > a new one and eBay your current one to recover the shipping costs of the > new > one. > Dean's site, > http://www.datsunparts.com/exhaust) has new headers (1/2 inch flange) from > $120 - $245, depending on just what you want. The more expensive ones are > ceramic coated. > Rallye's > (http://www.datsunroadster.com/SUB_SECTION_DIRECTORIES/exhaust.htm) > appear to range from $164 - $244. > Don's (http://www.risingsunracing.com./parts_new_exhaust.htm) are $169.95. > > My two cents! > Matt Smith - SEROC > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Daryl Smith > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 2:12 AM > To: Datsun Roadster List > Subject: [Roadsters] R16 Header flange? > > Do any of the vendors have a header flange for the R16 engine ? > > Would save me some time if I could get a the thick flange which is on the > newer headers..... > > Thanks > Daryl From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Oct 15 11:19:35 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:19:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 on ebay, optomistic pricing in OC Craigslist ad Message-ID: And along those lines, this ad appeared on Orange County craigslist yesterday, with optimistic pricing and a bizarre story to go along with it. http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/car/447522232.html I wonder if he realizes that Paul Gabriel's pristine 67.5 restoration was advertised for less than that. Fergus O, 69 2000 longing to be wrung out and put away wet, HB, CA From tputland at charter.net Mon Oct 15 11:22:31 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:22:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160733206 In-Reply-To: <019801c80f49$d75d3be0$6701a8c0@ACER4230> Message-ID: <20071015132231.EDVJN.19887.root@fepweb07> That is exactly why I bought my second one: One for me and one for the wife--at least that is what I told her to justify the second one. ;-P And that is all she needs to know! ha Maybe not quite so clueless after all... Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Richard Brown wrote: > Sounds like you need a second roadster. One for the wife & one Kid. One > for you and the other. Problem solveed. > > Richard > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 12:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item > # 200160733206 > > > > Seems like a fair price considering the work done. > > > > "...I WAS JUST ABLE TO DRIVE IT THIS SUMMER TO REALIZE BOTH OF MY KIDS AND > > WIFE ALL WANT TO BE IN IT AT THE SAME TIME. I NEED SOMETHING BIGGER..." > > > > Yeah, but what has a backseat that's gonna be as much fun? Probably cost a > > lot more, too. Call me selfish, but the roadster is for me. The Chrysler > > is > > for when I need to carry a crew. > > > > Pete > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net > > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On > > Behalf Of RWM (Out of the Office) > > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 1:33 PM > > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # > > 200160733206 > > > > > > Not an interested party, except to note the price. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200160733206 From tputland at charter.net Mon Oct 15 11:25:10 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:25:10 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 on ebay, optomistic pricing in OC Craigslist ad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071015132511.D02Z7.20046.root@fepweb07> Holy Shit. 30K. Wow Oh yea,,,never heard of either band and I grew up on rock music and am some what of a musician my self--at least I used to be (ran when parked). -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "O'Farrell wrote: > And along those lines, this ad appeared on Orange County craigslist > yesterday, with optimistic pricing and a bizarre story to go along with > it. > http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/car/447522232.html > > I wonder if he realizes that Paul Gabriel's pristine 67.5 restoration > was advertised for less than that. > Fergus O, 69 2000 longing to be wrung out and put away wet, HB, CA > ________________________________________ From jklingman at stny.rr.com Mon Oct 15 11:52:20 2007 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:52:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] optimistic pricing Message-ID: <002a01c80f54$227a0270$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Looks like somebody has a bad case of Barrett-Jackson syndrome. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Mon Oct 15 12:15:49 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:15:49 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160... Message-ID: Hey a Fairlady carries THREE, so two Fairlady's can carry a family of SIX. When I am running with just my kids, the '63 Fairlady handles the three of us and when Momma wants to join, the 1600 and the 2000 makes for fun or the Fairlady, pick a combination and ENJOY THE RIDE. Problem solved. Even with two roadsters getting 30+ is better than a SUV getting 14 or 15 MPH. AND it is a whole lot MORE FUNNER (bad grammar and all), that some stuffy four door bore. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From RoadsterGB at aol.com Mon Oct 15 12:49:59 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:49:59 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Off Topic - open top red Nissan on Ebay Message-ID: Interesting Nissan - open top at the rear at least ... Ebay number 180169998227 _http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissan-FHLG-60-FIRE-PATROL-Light-attack-RARE-N issan-Patrol-Fire-Patrol-Datsun-Firetruck-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6392 QQihZ008QQitemZ180169998227QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissan-FHLG-60-FIRE-PATROL-Light-attack-RARE-Nissan-Patrol-Fire-Patrol-D atsun-Firetruck-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6392QQihZ008QQitemZ18016999822 7QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW) Best from England Rob _www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) From RoadsterGB at aol.com Mon Oct 15 14:45:34 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:45:34 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org update - the first Nissan/Datsun sports car Message-ID: Hi If anyone's interested I've just added some pages to the fairlady.org website for Nissan's first 'sports' car and the predecessor to the Fairlady, the Datsun DC-3 of 1952 - there's a gallery, brochure pics etc. There was very little on the web about this car, even on Wikipedia, so I thought I should do something. Either ignore or enjoy. It's the top feature from the main page at _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) Cheers! Rob _www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) From drlsmith at dccnet.com Mon Oct 15 16:09:03 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:09:03 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org update - the first Nissan/Datsunsports car References: Message-ID: <001001c80f78$0028b8a0$4f2fcf18@Daryl> Nice! Thanks for the info. Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org update - the first Nissan/Datsunsports car > Hi > > If anyone's interested I've just added some pages to the fairlady.org > website for Nissan's first 'sports' car and the predecessor to the > Fairlady, the > Datsun DC-3 of 1952 - there's a gallery, brochure pics etc. > > There was very little on the web about this car, even on Wikipedia, so I > thought I should do something. Either ignore or enjoy. > > It's the top feature from the main page at > _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm_ > (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) > > Cheers! > > Rob > _www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) > ________________________________________ > > drlsmith at dccnet.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mikef at carolina.rr.com Mon Oct 15 18:32:49 2007 From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:32:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Intercom References: <470D26BC.4030202@socal.rr.com> <054c01c80b74$86b3eeb0$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com> Message-ID: <013601c80f8c$15090590$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884> Brad Holmes' looks much better than this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvin Gogineni" To: "'s.ulrich'" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intercom > back > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2984576710094396073wfJgHb > front > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2453408140094396073rsyZvD > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gogineni.alvin=gene.com at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of s.ulrich > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 12:24 PM > To: peter harrison > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Intercom > > Has anyone ever fabricated one of those "wind-wall" things behind the > seats? Don't know what its called, but you've all seen them - started > with the RX-7 convertible and now pretty much every 'vert has one, its > that small piece of plexi that goes behind the seats to keep the wind > from curling over the windshield and blowing backwards into the > passenger area. Makes a huge difference in some convertibles. > > > peter harrison wrote: >> Thiking of installing an intercom so that I can communicate w/passenger >> without shouting and still have the sounds from my system. >> Any experience/insights >> >> Peter >> Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >> _ > ________________________________________ > > gogineni.alvin at gene.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > > mikef at carolina.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.7/1062 - Release Date: > 10/10/2007 5:11 PM From bradandgayle at charter.net Mon Oct 15 19:07:53 2007 From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:07:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org update - the first Nissan/Datsunsports car References: Message-ID: <000e01c80f90$fd9189a0$9b02a8c0@holmes> Rob Great addition! Your site always looks great! Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:45 PM Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org update - the first Nissan/Datsunsports car > Hi > > If anyone's interested I've just added some pages to the fairlady.org > website for Nissan's first 'sports' car and the predecessor to the > Fairlady, the > Datsun DC-3 of 1952 - there's a gallery, brochure pics etc. > > There was very little on the web about this car, even on Wikipedia, so I > thought I should do something. Either ignore or enjoy. > > It's the top feature from the main page at > _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm_ > (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/intro.htm) > > Cheers! > > Rob > _www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) > ________________________________________ > > bradandgayle at charter.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From garytew at cox.net Mon Oct 15 19:48:25 2007 From: garytew at cox.net (Gary Tew) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:48:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] MOMO steering wheel adapter Message-ID: <47141869.5080907@cox.net> I'm looking for the correct steering wheel adapter for a MOMO wheel for an early 1600. Gary Tew Phoenix, AZ early '67 1600 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Oct 15 20:05:28 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:05:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] MOMO steering wheel adapter In-Reply-To: <47141869.5080907@cox.net> Message-ID: <000c01c80f99$0888b8d0$6501a8c0@xp> Gary, If no one has an exact answer, search the 311s.org forums on "MOMO adapter" (without the quotes), and you'll get several hits that discuss your options. Ciao. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Tew Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:48 PM To: datsun list datsun Subject: [Roadsters] MOMO steering wheel adapter I'm looking for the correct steering wheel adapter for a MOMO wheel for an early 1600. Gary Tew Phoenix, AZ early '67 1600 From tminerpcav at aol.com Mon Oct 15 20:28:17 2007 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:28:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 on ebay, optomistic pricing in OC Craigslist ad In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C9DDB3585D5A67-57C-4862@Webmail-mg03.sysops.aol.com> I think this guy found some left over "purple mircodot" from his dearly departed brother's glove box.? He's on acid. Tim ---- Original Message ---- From: O'Farrell, Fergus To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:19 am Subject: [Roadsters] 1600 on ebay, optomistic pricing in OC Craigslist ad And along those lines, this ad appeared on Orange County craigslist yesterday, with optimistic pricing and a bizarre story to go along with it. http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/car/447522232.html I wonder if he realizes that Paul Gabriel's pristine 67.5 restoration was advertised for less than that. Fergus O, 69 2000 longing to be wrung out and put away wet, HB, CA ________________________________________ tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From jklingman at stny.rr.com Mon Oct 15 22:22:01 2007 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:22:01 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] road trip/2008 planning References: <000601c80f73$a4d6b7d0$83dfd1d8@DDBHLZ81> Message-ID: <000201c80fac$52b90d70$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> This is an invitation to join us and show off your cars and have some fun. We will be in Bristol, VT July 3,4,and 5, 2008. Local festivities range from traditional to outrageous and take place on the 3rd and 4th. Saturday the 5th is the run, so tell us what you would like to include,see, do. I don't expect to see our cars parked a lot. With Joe and Fred we have 4 roadsters planning on the trip so far. Gloria and John Klingman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Davidson" To: "'John Klingman'" Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:37 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] road trip/2008 planning > Gloria & John: > > Sounds like you had a great trip. Now I have a date to have my "revised" > roadster ready for next year. I was hoping it wouldn't be May 1st because > I > may not make that. > > Fred & Rita > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+fred.davidson=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+fred.davidson=sympatico.ca at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of John Klingman > Sent: October 13, 2007 2:54 PM > To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] road trip/2008 planning > > Just got back from 3 days in VT plotting a roadster fun run / rally for > 2008 > . > Ran up RT 100 through the Green Mts, cruised the flat land along Lake > Champlain. Awesome views and great roads. Found some passes that looked > like > the Tail of the Dragon's Yankee cousins. We saw lots of color including > white > knuckles. We stayed in Bristol, VT, at the Dream House B&B owned by George > Landis ( '69 1600) and his wife Susan Small. We will be back there for the > 4th > of July to join George and Susan in the Bristol parade and celebration. > This > is an invite to any other roadster owners to join us. 2 Datsuns are a > parade, > how many can we get? Saturday the 5th we will be taking a roadster tour, > perhaps crossing the lake on the ferry . George has a great '69 1600, > white > with the most awesome custom burgundy interior. When we came through > Bennington, VT we stopped at Hemmings to pick up a couple of back issues. > That is a must do if you are going that way. > John and Gloria Klingman > Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike > ________________________________________ > > fred.davidson at sympatico.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Tue Oct 16 07:12:45 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:12:45 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160... Message-ID: Hey a Fairlady carries THREE, so two Fairlady's can carry a family of SIX. When I am running with just my kids, the '63 Fairlady handles the three of us and when Momma wants to join, the 1600 and the 2000 makes for fun or the Fairlady, pick a combination and ENJOY THE RIDE. Problem solved. Even with two roadsters getting 30+ is better than a SUV getting 14 or 15 MPH. AND it is a whole lot MORE FUNNER (bad grammar and all), that some stuffy four door bore. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From matthews517 at earthlink.net Tue Oct 16 07:46:06 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:46:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: When my sister and I were young (maybe 4 and 9), we used to sit in the back "seat" with my mom and dad in the front of the 1600 WITH THE TOP UP!!. Bear in mind, this is before the days when kids had to be "strapped in" and were "allowed" do be ejected during an accident. Change the hinges on the trunk to make a rumble seat, and you can get SIX in a roadster! (keeping in mind that the cargo capacity of a roadster is approx 480 lbs! including driver!) At 260 lbs, I can only take my dog and my tools! Matt Smith - SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BARTERDUDE at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:13 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160... Hey a Fairlady carries THREE, so two Fairlady's can carry a family of SIX. When I am running with just my kids, the '63 Fairlady handles the three of us and when Momma wants to join, the 1600 and the 2000 makes for fun or the Fairlady, pick a combination and ENJOY THE RIDE. Problem solved. Even with two roadsters getting 30+ is better than a SUV getting 14 or 15 MPH. AND it is a whole lot MORE FUNNER (bad grammar and all), that some stuffy four door bore. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ________________________________________ matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Tue Oct 16 08:05:06 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:05:06 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160... Message-ID: In a message dated 10/16/2007 7:46:10 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, matthews517 at earthlink.net writes: When my sister and I were young (maybe 4 and 9), we used to sit in the back "seat" with my mom and dad in the front of the 1600 WITH THE TOP UP!!. Bear in mind, this is before the days when kids had to be "strapped in" and were "allowed" do be ejected during an accident. Change the hinges on the trunk to make a rumble seat, and you can get SIX in a roadster! (keeping in mind that the cargo capacity of a roadster is approx 480 lbs! including driver!) At 260 lbs, I can only take my dog and my tools! Matt Smith - SEROC Hey, with today's snappy technology (velcro) you can just "strap them ON TO the rollbar" and run two short people in the back of a 2L or 1.6 (grins). I, my sister, my brother (13 years apart) survived without the aid of seat belts, my daughter sat in a wind up swing in the back of my '69 Chevy Van on a cross country tour back in the mid 70's. Heck if seat belts are so important, why haven't they mandated them on motorcycles (harharhar). Took my 1600 and 2000 on around town trips yesterday. Grins and giggles and enjoying the ride(s) daily. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 16 08:18:39 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:18:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <803142.53404.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> "...survived without the aid of seat belts..." but you were never in a vehicle that was in a serious accident, I'll warrant. Same thing with your daughter in the wind-up swing (?!). Pretty scary. Growing up the son of a CHP officer, and reading CHP Magazine every month since I was old enough to read, I never resented seat belts - I read the accident reports and saw those (thankfully black & white) pictures. Our family cars had 'em installed before they were required by law. Never resented or even questioned wearing a helmet to ride my motorcycles, either - I had seen those pictures in CHP magazine, too. Picked myself up and walked away from a spill on a racetrack once - happened at 60+ mph - and had to throw away my helmet and buy a new one 'cause it looked like it had been held up to a belt sander. On the motorcycle thing: be careful what you say. When Elizabeth Dole - you know, Bob's wife - was head of the NHTSA back in the '70s, she was pushing for a requirement that motorcycles have a rotating yellow light mounted on a "sissy bar" arrangement - to increase visibility. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 BARTERDUDE at aol.com wrote: I, my sister, my brother (13 years apart) survived without the aid of seat belts, my daughter sat in a wind up swing in the back of my '69 Chevy Van on a cross country tour back in the mid 70's. Heck if seat belts are so important, why haven't they mandated them on motorcycles (harharhar). Took my 1600 and 2000 on around town trips yesterday. Grins and giggles and enjoying the ride(s) daily. Gary Lasater - Parker CO From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Tue Oct 16 08:43:59 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:43:59 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160... Message-ID: In a message dated 10/16/2007 8:19:15 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, gkmcc at sbcglobal.net writes: "...survived without the aid of seat belts..." but you were never in a vehicle that was in a serious accident, I'll warrant. Same thing with your daughter in the wind-up swing (?!). Pretty scary. Growing up the son of a CHP officer, and reading CHP Magazine every month since I was old enough to read, I never resented seat belts - I read the accident reports and saw those (thankfully black & white) pictures. Our family cars had 'em installed before they were required by law. Never resented or even questioned wearing a helmet to ride my motorcycles, either - I had seen those pictures in CHP magazine, too. Picked myself up and walked away from a spill on a racetrack once - happened at 60+ mph - and had to throw away my helmet and buy a new one 'cause it looked like it had been held up to a belt sander. On the motorcycle thing: be careful what you say. When Elizabeth Dole - you know, Bob's wife - was head of the NHTSA back in the '70s, she was pushing for a requirement that motorcycles have a rotating yellow light mounted on a "sissy bar" arrangement - to increase visibility. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 LIGHTEN UP MY MAN. Yes, I WAS in serious accidents on both motorcycle and in cars (one of my Datsun got retired to the scrap heap due to stupidity in the other driver). Still standing, still walking, still enjoying the ride on both. Not going to debate the issues, the world is full of both opinions, I have mine and you have yours...that's why I live in a State that does not mandate motorcycle helmets, and I stepped in the local political arena to make sure government does not mandate too much in our personal lives. Here's to keeping the world revolving and the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. Datsun's FOREVER. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 16 08:58:11 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Pretty snappy bidding underway for a '69 1600, item # 200160... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <512067.62486.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Been down this road before, so I know it's no use debating anti-helmet, anti-seat belt "personal rights" fanatics - but I meant that you were probably never in a serious accident riding w/o seatbelts when you were a kid, as you bragged. There simply is no valid argument against seatbelts and motorcycle helmets, given the possible - very dire - consequences of NOT using them. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA BARTERDUDE at aol.com wrote: In a message dated 10/16/2007 8:19:15 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, gkmcc at sbcglobal.net writes: "...survived without the aid of seat belts..." but you were never in a vehicle that was in a serious accident, I'll warrant. Same thing with your daughter in the wind-up swing (?!). Pretty scary. Growing up the son of a CHP officer, and reading CHP Magazine every month since I was old enough to read, I never resented seat belts - I read the accident reports and saw those (thankfully black & white) pictures. Our family cars had 'em installed before they were required by law. Never resented or even questioned wearing a helmet to ride my motorcycles, either - I had seen those pictures in CHP magazine, too. Picked myself up and walked away from a spill on a racetrack once - happened at 60+ mph - and had to throw away my helmet and buy a new one 'cause it looked like it had been held up to a belt sander. On the motorcycle thing: be careful what you say. When Elizabeth Dole - you know, Bob's wife - was head of the NHTSA back in the '70s, she was pushing for a requirement that motorcycles have a rotating yellow light mounted on a "sissy bar" arrangement - to increase visibility. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 LIGHTEN UP MY MAN. Yes, I WAS in serious accidents on both motorcycle and in cars (one of my Datsun got retired to the scrap heap due to stupidity in the other driver). Still standing, still walking, still enjoying the ride on both. Not going to debate the issues, the world is full of both opinions, I have mine and you have yours...that's why I live in a State that does not mandate motorcycle helmets, and I stepped in the local political arena to make sure government does not mandate too much in our personal lives. Here's to keeping the world revolving and the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. Datsun's FOREVER. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Tue Oct 16 11:23:33 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:23:33 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Windscreen Wipers - 1970 Message-ID: Hi List Tried 6 different places in SF Valley (CA) for the Bosch blades mentioned on SPL311S (Yes for once I did check before asking ). No Luck Finally found a NAPA 762-3154 (15"380mm) blade that just needs a bit of trimming with a pair of tin snips. Of course I have no idea whether my wipers are stock at 13.5"", but it worked anyway. Fits fine. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From RoadsterGB at aol.com Tue Oct 16 14:28:00 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:28:00 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] BRE Datsun 2000 Roadster medallions Message-ID: Hi All If anyone's interested in these please let me know. I haven't really advertised them as I didn't think there would be much interest (a) because of the cost and (b) because I couldn't imagine that many people would want to spoil their dash - but they also make cool paperweights or I guess you could stick them anywhere - I had enquiries about 5 medallions yesterday but I would need at least 20 more to make it viable, with payment in advance when I place the order. See the following images and further info. _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/BREMedallion.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/BREMedallion.htm) BTW I would make nothing on these - they're just a cool item for Datsun Roadster race car fans. But if we don't make 25 orders then I will have the only one! Best regards again. Rob From john at roper-photo.com Tue Oct 16 19:42:38 2007 From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:42:38 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT- 510s for sale in Texas Message-ID: <4715696B.C163E.375E@pop.directnic.com> Anyone looking for a 510 project? I have 6 right now, so I either need to thin out the herd or buy a bigger house. Cars are located art my shop in Fort Worth, Texas. ------------------- Offering up three for sale, only actually selling two. Basically I want to keep one, but don't care which one I keep. Last one left stays with me. :^) Car #1: 1971 510 2dr, flared fenders, solid body, 80-85% of body work done, very straight. I have all the parts to put it back together (including glass) and anything I don't have I can find for you. Asking $600 obo, clean Florida title. Wheels do not go with it, but I have LOTS of other wheels we can put on it. Pics here: http://510garage.com/photos/thumbnails.php?album=272 Car #2: 1971 510 4dr, stock body, very straight, zero rust, good glass. Again, got all the parts to put it back together and can find you anything that's missing. Engine bay cleaned and painted (ready to drop in engine), all suspension and brakes are brand new with all Nissan parts. Car had A/C installed with late-model Nissan compressor, still all there and sealed. Asking $1200 firm, clean Texas title (waiting for it to come in the mail, though). Pics here: http://510garage.com/photos/thumbnails.php?album=215 Car #3: 1969 2dr 510, solid body, some very minor rust (easy to fix, not structural), fairly straight body, good glass. Car has VERY rare Bluebird taillights from Japan (cost me $600 shipped from Okinawa). Asking $900 without lights, $1300 with, clean Texas title. Pic here: http://510garage.com/photos/albums/userpics/10192/Picture_004s.jpg Pics of the lights on the car: http://510garage.com/photos/albums/userpics/10192/normal_Picture_083.jpg To answer the obvious question; All are projects, none run. All need paint. Car #1 has L20b (2.0L) bottom end (head was bad) and good 5spd in it. Car #2 has no engine/trans. Car #3 has stock 4spd in it (no engine). Lots of swap options, and stock engines are cheap. Email me if you're interested. john at roper-photo.com From johnsugar at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 16 21:46:28 2007 From: johnsugar at sbcglobal.net (John Sugar) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] L. A. Times Article Message-ID: <89081.64985.qm@web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I caught this article in the L.A. Times, about a Japanese Classic Car Show in Long Beach last Saturday: http://www.latimes.com/classified/automotive/highway1/la-fi-garage13oct13,0,3920981.story?coll=la-class-autos-highway1 Roadsters are mentioned at the end. John Sugar 70 SRL From 68roadster at charter.net Wed Oct 17 07:13:38 2007 From: 68roadster at charter.net (Dennis Louthan) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:13:38 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] A Datsun in the News Message-ID: <47160A82.6060201@charter.net> This isnt Roadster related, but it is a Datsun. http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20071008/NEWS/110080070&SearchID=73296622229109 Dennis 68 Stroker Minden, NV From matt at vander-bend.com Wed Oct 17 09:48:06 2007 From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:48:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Bay Area South FunRun 10/21-900am Meet up In-Reply-To: <89081.64985.qm@web83112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey List, Sorry for the late notice but we're going have a Sunday morning 10/21 Fun Run starting in San Jose and looping around via hwy 152 west to Watsonville back over Soquel & Old Santa Cruz hwy into Los Gatos. Looks to be right around a 4 hour trek with 2 stop to chat. It's been rainy but the weekend looks good. I'll be there rain or shine and we'll depart 930am Sharp! COME ON OUT!! Meet @ Chevy's Mexican 5305 Almaden Expy, San Jose, CA 95118 All makes and models are invited!! Matt Jacquet 408 205-5107 From roadstergb at aol.com Wed Oct 17 13:54:24 2007 From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:54:24 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! Message-ID: <8C9DF0EA69F90C3-D8-A26D@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> OK, I've never been a big fan of engine swaps, but yesterday I agreed the purchase of?a 2000 roadster with a small block Ford V8 - it originally came from the USA when it ran as a V8 but has been in a barn in the UK for the last 10 years?- it needs a whole load of work but it will make such an interesting toy when finished. ? The question is ... does anyone have any experience?of the results of such a conversion? Are the standard brakes/gearbox up to it? Any hints/tips/horror stories greatly appreciated.?? Many thanks. Rob www.fairlady.org ________________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Oct 17 14:33:29 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:33:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! In-Reply-To: <8C9DF0EA69F90C3-D8-A26D@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <002901c810fc$fd68dc90$6501a8c0@xp> Eric Hankinson has a Ford V8 roadster: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of roadstergb at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:54 PM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! OK, I've never been a big fan of engine swaps, but yesterday I agreed the purchase of?a 2000 roadster with a small block Ford V8 - it originally came from the USA when it ran as a V8 but has been in a barn in the UK for the last 10 years?- it needs a whole load of work but it will make such an interesting toy when finished. ? The question is ... does anyone have any experience?of the results of such a conversion? Are the standard brakes/gearbox up to it? Any hints/tips/horror stories greatly appreciated.?? Many thanks. Rob www.fairlady.org From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Oct 17 15:58:05 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:58:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Miata Seats/Speakers Message-ID: Hi List Miata seats mapped out and wired (turns out there is a channel cut in the seat back foam which exits on the outer side, i.e. left side on driver and right side on passenger), speakers on the way. Question for those that have the speakers installed - what is the best way to allow for seat travel without worrying about the wires getting snagged etc. ? Thx Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From d-solomon at comcast.net Wed Oct 17 16:18:35 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:18:35 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! Message-ID: <101720072218.14741.47168A3B0002B5D60000399522007456720201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> any idea what gearbox is in it? You sound as if you think it's got the Datsun unit still in it, which would surprise me. -------------- Original message -------------- From: roadstergb at aol.com > OK, I've never been a big fan of engine swaps, but yesterday I agreed the > purchase of?a 2000 roadster with a small block Ford V8 - it originally came from > the USA when it ran as a V8 but has been in a barn in the UK for the last 10 > years?- it needs a whole load of work but it will make such an interesting toy > when finished. > ? > The question is ... does anyone have any experience?of the results of such a > conversion? Are the standard brakes/gearbox up to it? Any hints/tips/horror > stories greatly appreciated.?? > > Many thanks. > > Rob > www.fairlady.org > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store > photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your > favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From reblues at reblues.net Wed Oct 17 16:26:16 2007 From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:26:16 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! References: <8C9DF0EA69F90C3-D8-A26D@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <00a401c8110c$bbfa6c50$1b0a0a0a@ACER4230> Here is a link to a Ford V8 powered Roadster. http://unnfair.com/Unnfair/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:54 PM Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! > OK, I've never been a big fan of engine swaps, but yesterday I agreed the > purchase of?a 2000 roadster with a small block Ford V8 - it originally > came from the USA when it ran as a V8 but has been in a barn in the UK for > the last 10 years?- it needs a whole load of work but it will make such an > interesting toy when finished. > ? > The question is ... does anyone have any experience?of the results of such > a conversion? Are the standard brakes/gearbox up to it? Any > hints/tips/horror stories greatly appreciated.?? > > Many thanks. > > Rob > www.fairlady.org From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Wed Oct 17 21:29:20 2007 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating question Message-ID: <79319.82726.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey guys! Quick question for you all. My car has rapidly overheated (in 3-4 minutes) the past couple of times I have driven it. The temp gauge shoots up to about 220 and then I shut it off because, well... I don't want to ruin it. I'm trying to track down the source. Water/Antifreeze is full and looks green and clean (no froth). Oil level is good. I pulled the top hose off of the radiator and ran the car up to 200 degrees at which point the thermostat opened and water came out. That's pretty much it. From what I've done I assume that the thermostat and water pump work (although 200 degrees is high for it to open I think). Where should I look next? I have been planning on adding a core to the radiator, so I can do this, but I know that this isn't the source of this rapid overhating. Could the radiator be plugged somehow? Is there anything else I should look for? I know that these are pretty simple systems, so it could only be so many things... Thanks for the help! Matthew... Oh... one last thing. I think the oil circulation is fine, because the oil on the dipstick changes (level and splash) when I start it and seems to be moving around in there, but when I opened the oil filler cap and looked in there and it didn't look terribly wet. Should I see oil flying around in there or is this normal. No, I STILL don't have an oil gauge attached... Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From sandhoff at csus.edu Wed Oct 17 22:20:14 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating question In-Reply-To: <79319.82726.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <79319.82726.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > My car has rapidly overheated (in 3-4 minutes) the past couple of > times I have driven it... Do a compression test. This really sounds like you blew a head gasket :-( With everything together and the radiator cap off, at idle do you see bubbles in the coolant? That would be exhaust gas from a bad gasket... > ...when I opened the oil filler cap and looked in there and it didn't > look terribly wet. Hmmm - sorry, I didn't note: 1600 or 2000? Either way it should be good and slimy up there. On a 2000 the spinning camshaft will throw oil all about - if you leave the cap off while it's idling, you'll quickly know it :-) On the 1600, there's an oil flow adjuster that if it's screwed down it'll starve the valve train. If the bearings are really bad you'll have great flow and zip pressure. No pressure = nothing to the top end, and likely not much to the cylinder walls. That could heat things up quickly :-( -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From ljordan704 at netscape.net Wed Oct 17 22:26:39 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:26:39 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating question In-Reply-To: References: <79319.82726.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8C9DF56367AD216-D0C-49EB@WEBMAIL-MC17.sysops.aol.com> John, Where is the oil flow adjuster? I never heard of that before. Linda -----Original Message----- From: John F Sandhoff To: Matthew Cox Cc: roadster list Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 9:20 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Overheating question > My car has rapidly overheated (in 3-4 minutes) the past couple of > times I have driven it... Do a compression test. This really sounds like you blew a head gasket :-( With everything together and the radiator cap off, at idle do you see bubbles in the coolant? That would be exhaust gas from a bad gasket... > ...when I opened the oil filler cap and looked in there and it didn't > look terribly wet. Hmmm - sorry, I didn't note: 1600 or 2000? Either way it should be good and slimy up there. On a 2000 the spinning camshaft will throw oil all about - if you leave the cap off while it's idling, you'll quickly know it :-) On the 1600, there's an oil flow adjuster that if it's screwed down it'll starve the valve train. If the bearings are really bad you'll have great flow and zip pressure. No pressure = nothing to the top end, and likely not much to the cylinder walls. That could heat things up quickly :-( -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From sandhoff at csus.edu Wed Oct 17 22:59:07 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating question In-Reply-To: <8C9DF56367AD216-D0C-49EB@WEBMAIL-MC17.sysops.aol.com> References: <79319.82726.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8C9DF56367AD216-D0C-49EB@WEBMAIL-MC17.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: > Where is the oil flow adjuster? I never heard of that before. It looks like a screw, with a lock nut on it, on the top of (as I recall) the rearmost rocker arm tower. It's actually a needle valve. Loosen the nut and screw it in to lessen oil flow, loosen it to increase. With it all the way in, there's no flow thru the shaft. With it missing, most of the oil pumps out the hole and again no flow to where it needs to go. Page 21 of the cheesy factory original shop manual ("screw-adjust, valve rocker") shows it. Interestingly, the online fiche (page 33 of the engine section) does NOT show this. Note that there is a set screw that must be tight and keeps the shaft from spinning. This adjusting screw is next to the set screw. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From roadstergb at aol.com Thu Oct 18 01:15:42 2007 From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:15:42 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! In-Reply-To: <101720072218.14741.47168A3B0002B5D60000399522007456720201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> References: <101720072218.14741.47168A3B0002B5D60000399522007456720201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1457893139-1192688205-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1795942016-@bxe004.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> Sorry I meant the diff - it has a Ford autobox but a Datsun diff - no idea what ratios it has or even what shape it's in. Eric's site is certainly an eye opener. Greetings from England.. Rob ------------------ -----Original Message----- From: d-solomon at comcast.net Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:18:35 To:Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! any idea what gearbox is in it? You sound as if you think it's got the Datsun unit still in it, which would surprise me. -------------- Original message -------------- From: roadstergb at aol.com > OK, I've never been a big fan of engine swaps, but yesterday I agreed the > purchase of?a 2000 roadster with a small block Ford V8 - it originally came from > the USA when it ran as a V8 but has been in a barn in the UK for the last 10 > years?- it needs a whole load of work but it will make such an interesting toy > when finished. > ? > The question is ... does anyone have any experience?of the results of such a > conversion? Are the standard brakes/gearbox up to it? Any hints/tips/horror > stories greatly appreciated.?? > > Many thanks. > > Rob > www.fairlady.org > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get a FREE AOL Email account with unlimited storage. Plus, share and store > photos and experience exclusively recorded live music Sessions from your > favourite artists. Find out more at http://info.aol.co.uk/joinnow/?ncid=548. > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ roadstergb at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 18 00:21:12 2007 From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating question In-Reply-To: <8C9DF56367AD216-D0C-49EB@WEBMAIL-MC17.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <243782.40072.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the tips so far everyone. Just to clarify, I have a 67 1600. Sorry about that... Keep the ideas coming! Matthew in Phoenix '67 1600 ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: John, Where is the oil flow adjuster? I never heard of that before. Linda -----Original Message----- From: John F Sandhoff To: Matthew Cox Cc: roadster list Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 9:20 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Overheating question > My car has rapidly overheated (in 3-4 minutes) the past couple of > times I have driven it... Do a compression test. This really sounds like you blew a head gasket :-( With everything together and the radiator cap off, at idle do you see bubbles in the coolant? That would be exhaust gas from a bad gasket... > ...when I opened the oil filler cap and looked in there and it didn't > look terribly wet. Hmmm - sorry, I didn't note: 1600 or 2000? Either way it should be good and slimy up there. On a 2000 the spinning camshaft will throw oil all about - if you leave the cap off while it's idling, you'll quickly know it :-) On the 1600, there's an oil flow adjuster that if it's screwed down it'll starve the valve train. If the bearings are really bad you'll have great flow and zip pressure. No pressure = nothing to the top end, and likely not much to the cylinder walls. That could heat things up quickly :-( -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ________________________________________ oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 18 05:28:23 2007 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 04:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating question In-Reply-To: <243782.40072.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <344304.78707.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I believe you probably do have a leaky head gasket, BUT try all the "easy" stuff first, like a new thermostat, check for any leaks in the system, pressure cap, radiator rodding, you know - the ususl suspects. I went thru all this several years ago with my '66 1600, and there was no real indication of a blown head gasket (I did not do a leak down test though - which should be early in the list of "easy" stuff). When I finally replaced my head gasket the problem was gone. BTW, mine is an iron head (early) 1600 and the head was straight and did not require any re-surfacing. An Aluminum head will likely be a little warped. While you have it apart, remove and replace your freeze plugs, and get into the block with a gun cleaning kit to make sure there ane no obstructions there. Flush everything good, both ways. Pretty easy to do once you have removed everything to get at the head. Take the head to a good machine shop and do a valve job if necesasary, and many more years of happy motoring! 1600's are pretty bullet-proof. Mike SC '66 1600 (Jessie) --- Matthew Cox wrote: > Thanks for the tips so far everyone. Just to > clarify, I have a 67 1600. Sorry about that... > > Keep the ideas coming! > > Matthew in Phoenix > '67 1600 From chalsted at comcast.net Thu Oct 18 05:59:09 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:59:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] roadster race parts Message-ID: <003b01c8117e$4d859250$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> possibly picking up the following, thought I'd test the waters to see who would be interested: NOS 411 R&P gearset NOS Posi Rear, he said it was a 513 NOS front and rear comp springs BRE header for 2L the real deal multi-piece header contact me offline if interested and make me your best offer Craig From msedlack at neo.rr.com Thu Oct 18 08:44:28 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:44:28 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! References: <8C9DF0EA69F90C3-D8-A26D@webmail-db19.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <004101c81195$63017ba0$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Rob, Although our roadster (the "R") only has a v6, the increased bore, compression, and head porting work puts in into the HP realm of a small displacement, stock v8. I swapped in an 8.8LSD Ford axle with drums, and Volvo front brakes. The whole build is documented on our website listed in my sig below. There are links in the left frame specific to the various aspects of the build. Might be of some assistance to you. I read that the 2000 you bought has a slush box - there are Ford versions of the Borg Warner / Tremec T5 and T6 that would bolt up if you want a "joystick"gearbox instead. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:54 PM Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! > OK, I've never been a big fan of engine swaps, but yesterday I agreed the purchase of?a 2000 roadster with a small block Ford V8 - it originally came from the USA when it ran as a V8 but has been in a barn in the UK for the last 10 years?- it needs a whole load of work but it will make such an interesting toy when finished. > ? > The question is ... does anyone have any experience?of the results of such a conversion? Are the standard brakes/gearbox up to it? Any hints/tips/horror stories greatly appreciated.?? > > Many thanks. > > Rob > www.fairlady.org > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From racery at comcast.net Thu Oct 18 10:16:54 2007 From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:16:54 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Quick overheating Message-ID: <101820071616.14689.471786F60007FEF3000039612205886172979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> 2 thoughts, first is 'doh'- it does have a fan belt on it, right? Second is, if a compression test turns out ok, check the water pump. They don't usually fail, but it's possible. Or, a large piece of crud has gotten loose and blocked a passage.... hth, t From garytew at cox.net Thu Oct 18 12:18:52 2007 From: garytew at cox.net (garytew at cox.net) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:18:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] windshield wiper motor Message-ID: <20071018141852.OQCZ1.29600.root@fed1wml22> I put juice to the roadster this week to start testing circuits and verify my wiring. The wiper motor did not work. I got under the dash and pulled one of the wiper arms and the motor ran for a second or 2. I haven't done anything since. My plan is to pull and bench test it and also check for any binding. Are there any issues I should know about on these motors? Also, I pulled one from my parts car ('65) and it has a wiring harness plug in the end of it with 4 posts while my ('67) motor has 5 wires coming out of it. Anyone know the wiring scheme of the 4 wire motor? So far, no major issues on the wiring. The lights, horn, turn signals, horns, and clock all work. Will start testing the door actuators and power window circuits next when I have time. Gary Tew Phx, AZ early '67 1600 (VG30E) From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Oct 18 12:33:49 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:33:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Quick overheating In-Reply-To: <101820071616.14689.471786F60007FEF3000039612205886172979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> References: <101820071616.14689.471786F60007FEF3000039612205886172979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8C9DFCC8F5B0D9C-CEC-A9F@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com> If the waterpump is not leaking from below, what is the best way to test it? Can you assume it works if both radiator? hoses get hot thus assuming the water is circulating? Or could the water get hot without a functioning water pump? TIA Linda -----Original Message----- From: racery at comcast.net To: roadster list Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 9:16 am Subject: [Roadsters] Quick overheating 2 thoughts, first is 'doh'- it does have a fan belt on it, right? Second is, if a compression test turns out ok, check the water pump. They don't usually fail, but it's possible. Or, a large piece of crud has gotten loose and blocked a passage.... hth, t ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Oct 18 12:46:40 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:46:40 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Quick overheating In-Reply-To: <8C9DFCC8F5B0D9C-CEC-A9F@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001e01c811b7$3be686b0$6501a8c0@xp> Usually the water pump outlet/radiator inlet hose will -NOT- be hot as normal if the water pump fails. BTDT. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 11:34 AM To: racery at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Quick overheating If the waterpump is not leaking from below, what is the best way to test it? Can you assume it works if both radiator? hoses get hot thus assuming the water is circulating? Or could the water get hot without a functioning water pump? TIA Linda -----Original Message----- From: racery at comcast.net To: roadster list Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 9:16 am Subject: [Roadsters] Quick overheating 2 thoughts, first is 'doh'- it does have a fan belt on it, right? Second is, if a compression test turns out ok, check the water pump. They don't usually fail, but it's possible. Or, a large piece of crud has gotten loose and blocked a passage.... hth, t From mark at dealermats.com Thu Oct 18 15:21:45 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 17:21:45 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Quick overheating References: <101820071616.14689.471786F60007FEF3000039612205886172979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> <8C9DFCC8F5B0D9C-CEC-A9F@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000801c811cc$e2f4be30$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> > If the waterpump is not leaking from below, what is the best way to test > it? Unhook one of the hoses and spin it, see if water comes out. Can you assume it works if both radiator? hoses get hot thus assuming the water is circulating? No Or could the water get hot without a functioning water pump? Yes Mark From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Oct 18 18:07:49 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:37:49 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] windshield wiper motor In-Reply-To: <20071018141852.OQCZ1.29600.root@fed1wml22> References: <20071018141852.OQCZ1.29600.root@fed1wml22> Message-ID: <000301c811e4$181f9dc0$426fa8c0@desktop> Hi Gary, remove all of the mechanical linkage from the wiper shaft then re-test it electrically. Usually the wiper pivot shafts that go through the cowl bind up and can prevent the motor from operating. If it operates OK, it may just be the pivots. Try to rotate the pivots by hand. If they won't budge, then you need to refurbish the two pivots. If the motor still doesn't operate make sure that it is getting power. There is not much to go wrong in the wiper motor, the brushes may be dirty or worn down. The 5 wire wiper motor is probably a 2 speed with park contact while the 4 wire is a single speed with park. I put juice to the roadster this week to start testing circuits and verify my wiring. The wiper motor did not work. I got under the dash and pulled one of the wiper arms and the motor ran for a second or 2. I haven't done anything since. My plan is to pull and bench test it and also check for any binding. Are there any issues I should know about on these motors? Also, I pulled one from my parts car ('65) and it has a wiring harness plug in the end of it with 4 posts while my ('67) motor has 5 wires coming out of it. Anyone know the wiring scheme of the 4 wire motor? So far, no major issues on the wiring. The lights, horn, turn signals, horns, and clock all work. Will start testing the door actuators and power window circuits next when I have time. Gary Tew No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 17/10/2007 7:53 PM From graemes at internode.on.net Fri Oct 19 00:08:31 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:38:31 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering backstops. Message-ID: <001c01c81216$7a17f4f0$426fa8c0@desktop> Hi folks, does anyone have a pic or dimensions of the steering backstops as fitted to a 310? I thought I found them, a hex head bolt with a nice rounded top but they seem to be way too short for the job. Regards from Oz. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 17/10/2007 7:53 PM From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Oct 19 03:43:19 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 05:43:19 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] California '66 1600 for sale in Connecticut with parts car Message-ID: <003b01c81234$7c5e3fd0$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> I've bought a pair of '66 1600's up near Hartford and figured I'd offer them out before dragging them home... the good one is a California car, has been off the road about 3-4 years. still in California title. they had a carb burp and minor engine compartment fire, melted some of the engine compartment harness. person who bought the car picked up a running parts car, don't know what all is there with that one...might even have a posi rear ;-) California car will crank but isn't getting spark so won't start. I don't have any photos at the moment to forward on the car. has a ding in the rear bumper, and a spot on one rear quarter that was dented and fixed, otherwise very good rust free straight body. good interior too. $2750 for the pair, contact me offline if interested. also have a '68 2000 near Binghamton available, would take $1500 on that one. complete car, straight, no rust holes in the body. paint was stripped and there's surface rust on the car but it's very solid. has a nice hardtop too. photos of that one available. Craig From graemes at internode.on.net Fri Oct 19 03:52:04 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:22:04 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Steering backstops. Message-ID: <000001c81235$b4745a70$426fa8c0@desktop> Crisis over, after adjusting the steering crossrod I find that the backstop bolts are just fine. I currently don't have the side rods installed so dimensions are a bit fuzzy ~ No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1078 - Release Date: 18/10/2007 5:47 PM From RacerY at comcast.net Fri Oct 19 10:19:31 2007 From: RacerY at comcast.net (RacerY at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:19:31 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Quick overheating Message-ID: <101920071619.22180.4718D913000C4608000056A42200734076A79D0A0C0EAD@comcast.net> The stinker is that there's no real way to test one- (any ideas, all?) you can unhook a hose and check for 'good flow' when the engine's cranking, but I've got no idea what 'good flow' is! I've always removed 'em and looked at the impeller- once, on a car which overheated quickly, the impeller had fallen off the shaft! sorry, not much help here, Toby -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: ljordan704 at netscape.net > > If the waterpump is not leaking from below, what is the best way to test it? > Can you assume it works if both radiator? hoses get hot thus assuming the water > is circulating? Or could the water get hot without a functioning water pump? > TIA > > Linda From: ljordan704 at netscape.net To: racery at comcast.net, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Quick overheating Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:33:52 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from Multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/html If the waterpump is not leaking from below, what is the best way to test it? Can you assume it works if both radiator hoses get hot thus assuming the water is circulating? Or could the water get hot without a functioning water pump? TIA Linda -----Original Message----- From: racery at comcast.net To: roadster list Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 9:16 am Subject: [Roadsters] Quick overheating 2 thoughts, first is 'doh'- it does have a fan belt on it, right? Second is, if a compression test turns out ok, check the water pump. They don't usually fail, but it's possible. Or, a large piece of crud has gotten loose and blocked a passage.... hth, t ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Oct 19 10:57:00 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:57:00 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Quick overheating In-Reply-To: <021101c811d9$7fa738a0$af21ffd8@hpcustomer> References: <101820071616.14689.471786F60007FEF3000039612205886172979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> <8C9DFCC8F5B0D9C-CEC-A9F@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com> <01eb01c811b9$9e004960$af21ffd8@hpcustomer> <8C9DFD29B708F84-CEC-DAA@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com> <021101c811d9$7fa738a0$af21ffd8@hpcustomer> Message-ID: <8C9E088336FD480-270-F71@webmail-da17.sysops.aol.com> Good info, thanks! I'm posting to the List. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> To: ljordan704 at netscape.net Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 3:51 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Quick overheating Linda, ? ? With the upper hose off and the fan belt removed or just loosened, you should be able to spin the water pump by hand.? But stand back, wear goggles, and a rain coat!? If you don't see any water flying out the hose, maybe it's time for a new pump.? If the bearing in the pump are bad, you WILL hear it.? But if there is a bunch of play at the pulley, the bearing will go bad soon.? If the seal is bad, it will leak out a weep hole in the bottom of the pump's casing.? If it just leaks a little, you may want to try a RESTORE product that is designed to swell old seals and hopefully stop the leak. ? With the tower cap off but the thermostat in place, the thermostat will keep you from seeing any water movement.? Pulling the hose will tell you for sure. ? ? When was the last time you flushed out the cooling system?? Including the heater core?? I flushed my system one summer and everything was great, ... until one fall morning I decided to use the heater.? Suddenly the engine overheated.? The coolant was filthy when I drained some out.? Turned out the heater core was full of 'crap' and once I opened the valve, it all flowed right to the radiator and clogged most of it.? Thankfully another good flush cleaned it all out. ? ?? And remember, there are lots of other reasons for a motor to overheat. ? Paul ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From nmleeds at mindspring.com Fri Oct 19 11:05:05 2007 From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] As the Distributor Turns Message-ID: <11044606.1192813505510.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> When my roadster ('69 U20, primer white) is running right its like Dallas, when it isn't I think of it as the Young the Restless or General Hospital. Well now I'm in an episode of As the Distributor Turns and I thought I ask for some suggestions. Here's my problem. I'm a bonehead and when I installed my distributor I installed in 180 degrees off. To date, I've solved this problem by routing the number one spark plug on the distributor to the number four spark plug and the #2 to #3 and vis versa (or something like that). Mechanically/electrically this has solved the problem. But the cosmetics have left somthing to be desired -- an ugly tangle of spark plug wires leaping over eachother to find their right place on the engine. I just pulled out the engine to handle some other stuff and thought that while I had it on the bench I'd address my little distributor problem. My partner in Datsun crime has suggested that we pull off the timing covers, remove the timing chains and rotate the jack-shaft. This seems excessive. Is there any easier way? 1) rotating the camshaft 180 degrees? 2) pulling the distributor, rotating the engine once on the crank, and dropping the distributor back in? Other ideas? Nathaniel Leeds From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Fri Oct 19 11:43:06 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:43:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Sunday October 21st R&R Engine etc. Message-ID: Would still appreciate some help this sunday to r&R (And swap) trannies on my 1600. I live in Van Nuys California. If you could help, please give me a call at 818 448 3181. My largest concern is aligning everything after I have swapped it. 20 years ago, I used a broom handle for lack of the proper tools - probably got lucky - don't want to chance it again. Thanks Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From az589 at lafn.org Fri Oct 19 11:50:26 2007 From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:50:26 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] As the Distributor Turns In-Reply-To: <11044606.1192813505510.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa. earthlink.net> References: <11044606.1192813505510.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20071019104338.026dcfe8@lafn.org> It isn't necessary to open the engine or turn it over. Remove the distributor and then remove the drive dog pin at the lower end of the dizzy shaft by moving the springlike retainer wire from above the pin. Rotate the drive dog 180 degrees and replace the pin and the wire. Replace the distributor and relocate the wires where you wanted them in the first place. When you look at the drive dog you will notice that the flat drive part is offset and can only fit in the shaft one way. Removing the dizzy and rotating the engine would not benefit you. Stan ===== At 10:05 AM 10/19/2007, nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote: >When my roadster ('69 U20, primer white) is running right its like >Dallas, when it isn't I think of it as the Young the Restless or >General Hospital. > >Well now I'm in an episode of As the Distributor Turns and I thought >I ask for some suggestions. > >Here's my problem. I'm a bonehead and when I installed my >distributor I installed in 180 degrees off. To date, I've solved >this problem by routing the number one spark plug on the distributor >to the number four spark plug and the #2 to #3 and vis versa (or >something like that). Mechanically/electrically this has solved the >problem. But the cosmetics have left somthing to be desired -- an >ugly tangle of spark plug wires leaping over eachother to find their >right place on the engine. > >My partner in Datsun crime has suggested that we pull off the timing >covers, remove the timing chains and rotate the jack-shaft. This >seems excessive. Is there any easier way? 1) rotating the camshaft >180 degrees? 2) pulling the distributor, rotating the engine once on >the crank, and dropping the distributor back in? Other ideas? > >Nathaniel Leeds From gjhgerding at tconl.com Fri Oct 19 12:14:46 2007 From: gjhgerding at tconl.com (Gary) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:14:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] alternator Message-ID: <4718F416.4000908@tconl.com> Does anyone rebuild Roadster alternators anymore? From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Oct 19 12:25:48 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:25:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] alternator In-Reply-To: <4718F416.4000908@tconl.com> Message-ID: <001201c8127d$7c25c080$6501a8c0@xp> There's a few websites out there that'll tell you how to do it, but, unlike generators, alternators are basically remove & replace items. Cheap at $30-$40, or spend a little more and upgrade to a higher output GM alternator. Ciao. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:15 AM To: Datsun Roadster Group Subject: [Roadsters] alternator Does anyone rebuild Roadster alternators anymore? From ljordan704 at netscape.net Fri Oct 19 12:34:50 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:34:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] alternator In-Reply-To: <4718F416.4000908@tconl.com> References: <4718F416.4000908@tconl.com> Message-ID: <8C9E095DE0561C0-270-165E@webmail-da17.sysops.aol.com> Look in the phone book for rebuilders . They can do do yours probably. Linda 68 1600 stock rebuilt alt -----Original Message----- From: Gary To: Datsun Roadster Group Sent: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:14 am Subject: [Roadsters] alternator Does anyone rebuild Roadster alternators anymore? ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Oct 19 12:47:46 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:47:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] As the Distributor Turns In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20071019104338.026dcfe8@lafn.org> Message-ID: <001501c81280$8d750730$6501a8c0@xp> Instructions with pictures: Pete From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Oct 19 16:37:45 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:37:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Water pump seal [was: Quick overheating] In-Reply-To: <8C9E088336FD480-270-F71@webmail-da17.sysops.aol.com> References: <021101c811d9$7fa738a0$af21ffd8@hpcustomer> Message-ID: <4718CF49.16298.15AF142@localhost> > If the seal is bad, it will leak out a weep hole in the bottom of the > pump's casing. If it just leaks a little, you may want to try a RESTORE > product that is designed to swell old seals and hopefully stop the > leak. As I recall, our pumps use a hard seal. Once it wears (or more likely cracks), no seal-sweller will have a useful effect. A handful of oatmeal, maybe :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From sumton at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 19 17:58:17 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:58:17 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] datsun wiring - high/low References: <101820071616.14689.471786F60007FEF3000039612205886172979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net><8C9DFCC8F5B0D9C-CEC-A9F@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com><01eb01c811b9$9e004960$af21ffd8@hpcustomer><8C9DFD29B708F84-CEC-DAA@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com><021101c811d9$7fa738a0$af21ffd8@hpcustomer> <8C9E088336FD480-270-F71@webmail-da17.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000201c812ab$ed02cb30$800101df@Garage.local> OK. this must sound really dumb, but i'm just trying to verify something. my car was in kit form when i bought it, and i'm working through the wiring diagram. it finally hit me that this car does not have a pedal high/low beam, so it must be on the column????? part of the blinker stalk workings?? thanks. ealry 67 low windshield 1600, moving under its own power, but not wired up yet. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Fri Oct 19 18:11:25 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:11:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] datsun wiring - high/low In-Reply-To: <000201c812ab$ed02cb30$800101df@Garage.local> Message-ID: <001c01c812ad$c4404e50$6501a8c0@xp> Correct. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 4:58 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] datsun wiring - high/low OK. this must sound really dumb, but i'm just trying to verify something. my car was in kit form when i bought it, and i'm working through the wiring diagram. it finally hit me that this car does not have a pedal high/low beam, so it must be on the column????? part of the blinker stalk workings?? thanks. ealry 67 low windshield 1600, moving under its own power, but not wired up yet. From geegc at aol.com Fri Oct 19 18:14:50 2007 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:14:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Phishing E-mail from Datsun list? Message-ID: <8C9E0C55DCA0085-11C8-B42@webmailbeta-m05.sysops.aol.com> I got this, anyone else get it?? Is it a phishing expedition? Gary C Your membership in the mailing list Datsun-roadsters has been disabled due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated 19-Oct-2007.? You will not get any more messages from this list until you re-enable your membership.? You will receive 3 more reminders like this before your membership in the list is deleted. ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From bradlustig at earthlink.net Fri Oct 19 18:24:49 2007 From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:24:49 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Phishing E-mail from Datsun list? In-Reply-To: <8C9E0C55DCA0085-11C8-B42@webmailbeta-m05.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C9E0C55DCA0085-11C8-B42@webmailbeta-m05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <007501c812af$a20ff270$6601a8c0@BRAD> I believe it's probably just what it seems. Your email must just be bouncing back emails. Don't know what it would accomplish if it was a phishing email. Brad From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Oct 19 19:03:16 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:03:16 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] As the Distributor Turns In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20071019104338.026dcfe8@lafn.org> References: <11044606.1192813505510.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa. earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4718F164.21999.1E028C6@localhost> It was written: > I'm a bonehead and when I installed my distributor I > installed in 180 degrees off. To which Stan replied: > Remove the distributor and then remove the drive dog pin at the lower > end of the dizzy shaft by moving the springlike retainer wire from > above the pin. Rotate the drive dog 180 degrees and replace the pin > and the wire. Replace the distributor and relocate the wires where > you wanted them in the first place. Which is quick, easy, and probably safest :-) If you're really retentive about everything being 'just right', and you _know_ that the distributor is 'correct' (hint: someone before you may have put it together 180 deg off), you can also pull the distributor, carefully pull the drive gear out of the block, rotate it 180 deg and drop it back in. I'd go with Stan's solution as I always have a heck of a time getting the gear to drop back in (it has to mesh with the oil pump tang). But it's way more sensible than tearing down the engine to rotate the jackshaft... which may not work, as I think you'll throw off the timing marks and probably end up bending a valve :-) If it ain't broke.... Leave it alone, or do what Stan suggests... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Fri Oct 19 19:07:16 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:07:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] datsun wiring - high/low In-Reply-To: <000201c812ab$ed02cb30$800101df@Garage.local> References: <101820071616.14689.471786F60007FEF3000039612205886172979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net><8C9DFCC8F5B0D9C-CEC-A9F@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com><01eb01c811b9$9e004960$af21ffd8@hpcustomer><8C9DFD29B708F84-CEC-DAA@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com><021101c811d9$7fa738a0$af21ffd8@hpcustomer> <8C9E088336FD480-270-F71@webmail-da17.sysops.aol.com> <000201c812ab$ed02cb30$800101df@Garage.local> Message-ID: <471954C4.4040908@hornesystemstx.com> Yes, it is on the column. The turn signal lever moves forward and backward, and stays in each position. There is a contact on the lever that controls a relay in the engine compartment. You can connect the headlight wires to the relay so that high beam is either away from you, or toward you, depending on what you prefer. (I can't remember which way is correct.) Peace, Pat Thusly spake oliver: > OK. this must sound really dumb, but i'm just trying to verify something. > > my car was in kit form when i bought it, and i'm working through the wiring > diagram. > > it finally hit me that this car does not have a pedal high/low beam, so it > must be on the column????? part of the blinker stalk workings?? > > thanks. > > ealry 67 low windshield 1600, moving under its own power, but not wired up > yet. > ________________________________________ > > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Oct 19 19:17:25 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:17:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] datsun wiring - high/low In-Reply-To: <471954C4.4040908@hornesystemstx.com> References: <000201c812ab$ed02cb30$800101df@Garage.local> Message-ID: <4718F4B5.2423.1ED1DDA@localhost> Concerning the high beam relay, it was written: > You can connect the headlight wires to the relay so that high beam > is either away from you, or toward you, depending on what you prefer. > (I can't remember which way is correct.) Likely, pushed forward is high beam, pulled back is low. Also, as I recall the relay energizes (on) for low and de-energizes (off) for high. Two interesting points here: 1) At about 4-6k rpm, the vibration causes some relays to start 'floating', so if high beams are on, they flicker and go out. Pretty common problem. Switch to low beam and the energized relay will give you stable (but low beam) lights. 2) On some models, the hi/low activation power comes from as I recall the parking light circuit (I'd have to look at the diagram). Anyways, if your headlight switch is flaky (not that a 40 year old switches would get flaky) and powers up the headlights but nor parking/ dash lights, you'll find yourself stuck with high beams only... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From doctor_evil at fastmail.ca Fri Oct 19 22:22:59 2007 From: doctor_evil at fastmail.ca (Doctor Evil) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Roadsters] A huge thanks to all the members of the list In-Reply-To: <007501c812af$a20ff270$6601a8c0@BRAD> Message-ID: <20071020042300.522953050423@mail.fastmail.ca> A big thanks to all the members of the list, past and present, for their time, insight, and contributions. You see, I replaced the starter today in my 67 2000, and it was easy - because I searched the archives and got lots of tips. So as I look at my bloodless, intact knuckles, and realize how very few "man words" I uttered today, I say thanks. Cheers! Dave _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Secure Web Email for Canadians From dato1500 at hotmail.com Sat Oct 20 04:14:13 2007 From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:14:13 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Installing Front shockies Message-ID: Listers, I have a question that needs to be answered. When installing front shockies, does the shaft go up or down? I have 2 roadsters and they are both different. I am installing KYB's and if installed so you can read the label it is shaft up, but with this way wouldn't all the road grime get stuck in the seal and wear this out. Shaft down would mean no grime would effect the seal. The mind ponders????? Pete. _________________________________________________________________ Overpaid or Underpaid? Check our comprehensive Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent%2Emycareer%2Ecom%2Eau %2Fsalary%2Dcentre%3Fs%5Fcid%3D595810&_t=766724125&_r=Hotmail_Email_Tagline_M yCareer_Oct07&_m=EXT From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Oct 20 07:35:11 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:05:11 +0930 Subject: [Roadsters] Installing Front shockies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001c8131e$0c5346f0$426fa8c0@desktop> Hi Pete, please ponder no longer! When you look at the Parts Catalog, it clearly shows the shock body at the bottom and the shaft at the top. It also shows a dust boot over the shaft to protect the shaft from the crud you describe. I'm guessing that the dust boots don't survive for long! Do your KYB's come with a dust boot? If not, I suggest that the boots are now redundant and crud is of no consequence. Also, the shock valving might only work correctly when the body is at the bottom. Listers, I have a question that needs to be answered. When installing front shockies, does the shaft go up or down? I have 2 roadsters and they are both different. I am installing KYB's and if installed so you can read the label it is shaft up, but with this way wouldn't all the road grime get stuck in the seal and wear this out. Shaft down would mean no grime would effect the seal. The mind ponders????? Pete. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1081 - Release Date: 19/10/2007 5:41 PM From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Sat Oct 20 12:59:57 2007 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition Message-ID: <802884.99060.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Well, I give up on getting a new key to fit my 1969 2000. I appreciate links I have been sent, but none actually showed 1969 roadster and I don't want to buy not knowing. But maybe I missed it somehow. I really don't want to pay the big price Rallyee wants for a new switch w/keys, unless I have to. Anyone have a used switch w key(s)??? JimG From mtyler at hctc.net Sat Oct 20 14:26:33 2007 From: mtyler at hctc.net (Marc&Heidi) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:26:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating question In-Reply-To: References: <79319.82726.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: John, where is this, and what is the proper adjustment for it. Didn't know it existed. Thanks, Marc On Oct 17, 2007, at 11:20 PM, John F Sandhoff wrote: > On the 1600, there's an oil flow adjuster that if it's screwed down > it'll starve the valve train. From tom at datsun2000.com Sat Oct 20 15:34:48 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:34:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition In-Reply-To: <802884.99060.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Jim, I replaced my steering column once, and then had the tumbler go bad again. After spending $33.00 to have the keys matched the first time (I did not have a key for the new tumbler) I did not want to do that again. Looking at the aftermarket ignition switches I purchased one that looked like it might work and finally decided the best place to put it was right where the old one was. Take a look at how I did it here: http://www.datsun2000.com/tech/switch Cost of the part was $6.95, and I can replace it anytime I want. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jim Gammon Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 12:00 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition Well, I give up on getting a new key to fit my 1969 2000. I appreciate links I have been sent, but none actually showed 1969 roadster and I don't want to buy not knowing. But maybe I missed it somehow. I really don't want to pay the big price Rallyee wants for a new switch w/keys, unless I have to. Anyone have a used switch w key(s)??? JimG ________________________________________ From fergus06 at socal.rr.com Sat Oct 20 16:11:51 2007 From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:11:51 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] aluminum door kick panel sizing question Message-ID: <001c01c81366$37c86110$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> So, my interior is far from "original", or "pristine". The PO was a Z-car restorer, and it was his shop truck, so "a cobbled together collection of bits n' bobs" is a closest description. Anyway, many moon ago I scrapped the severely depleted door panels and made carbon fiber panels. In mounting them I quickly found out that the angled portion at the aft 3" was not suitable for unforgiving, non-compliant flat panel CF stock. Ahh well, let 'em rattle, left the bottom un-attached. So, finally, recently, I cut the 'should be angled' pie shaped portion off the flat panel, and fits up/ lines up fine on the driver side. But, on the passenger side, now that the door panel has been shortened, the kick panel is ~3" too long. I have two kick panels that are two different lengths. !!! Is there some model year mismatch here? Anyone want a long one, or want to trade a long one for a short one? I could splash them and make a tool to make composite kick panels, but I can't splash a correctly-sized RH part to make a LH tool, that just won't work. Perplexed, Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA From d-solomon at comcast.net Sat Oct 20 17:10:31 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:10:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition In-Reply-To: <802884.99060.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <802884.99060.qm@web51108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <471A8AE7.8000106@comcast.net> when I needed a new key, I took my switch out and took it to the local locksmith, who was able to make a new one with what I "think" was a Suzuki blank. Cost me 20 minutes and $20. is there a reason you can't do this? Jim Gammon wrote: > Well, I give up on getting a new key to fit my 1969 2000. I appreciate links I have been sent, but none actually showed 1969 roadster and I don't want to buy not knowing. But maybe I missed it somehow. > > I really don't want to pay the big price Rallyee wants for a new switch w/keys, unless I have to. > > Anyone have a used switch w key(s)??? > > JimG > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net Sat Oct 20 19:21:54 2007 From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:21:54 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition Message-ID: <11261315.1192929715440.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Jim, I got my key got stuck in the ignition switch several years ago, tried all kinds of things to get it out, but nothing seemed to work. The locksmith lent me a special tool He has, but I could not get it to work either. I finally removed the ignition switch to take to the locksmith. He easily got the key out with the switch on his workbench. He went on to make me several custom fitted keys that compensated for the wear in the mechanism. I do not think it cost more than $20, maybe 25. Could be worth a try if you know a good locksmith. Good luck, Dewey -----Original Message----- >From: Jim Gammon >Sent: Oct 20, 2007 12:59 PM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] Ignition > >Well, I give up on getting a new key to fit my 1969 2000. I appreciate links I have been sent, but none actually showed 1969 roadster and I don't want to buy not knowing. But maybe I missed it somehow. > > I really don't want to pay the big price Rallyee wants for a new switch w/keys, unless I have to. > > Anyone have a used switch w key(s)??? > > JimG >________________________________________ > >hahlbohmd at earthlink.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From andycost at embarqmail.com Sat Oct 20 21:27:10 2007 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:27:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Around the block In-Reply-To: <11261315.1192929715440.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: After two years Bucephalus moved under his own power today. We took a brief stroll around the block without drama or fanfare. I did punch it a couple of times and found out that the supercharged KA24DE can spin 30 inch wide rubber at will. The wine of the supercharger is still pretty scary. I may have to move the intake out of the passenger floorboard. It is actually up higher under the dash but still in the passenger compartment. There are a couple of minor brake fluid leaks. I will fix them when I install the 4 piston calipers. The Outlaw 2000 caliper install looks to be much simpler than it seems. I just need to fabricate a mounting bracket. The hard brake line from the hose needs to be bent a little. That's it. It will be much simpler than a Toyota 4x4 or Volvo conversion. I need to tidy up some wires, secure some hoses and wires, install the methanol/water injection system, fabricate an aluminum cover over the package tray area, build a new roll bar, and tie some other minor loose ends. The radiator started leaking a little so I'm going to have to deal with that. Overall It is coming together nicely and hopefully will be ready to race (but not completely finished) by Nov 10-11 which is the last autocross of the season. Later, Andy From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com Sun Oct 21 05:30:33 2007 From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 07:30:33 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Parts Report on British American Tranfer and Focus Parts Message-ID: Hello List, O.T, Focus Parts Source: My daughters 2000 Focus Sport 5spd needed strut bearings, there was a clunk and loosness in the top of the strut. Well, naturally, if your going to pull out struts to fix that you might as well put in new struts. And, gee, if your doing front struts you should do rear shocks to keep everything even. As I was contemplating these purchases, I happened across the web site for B.A.T. British American Transfer....the have a huge list of good performance parts for many 4 cyl Fords with european roots like Focus. I noticed they had complete Ford Special Vehicle Team suspensions from a Ford Overrun buy, since Ford quit making the SVT Focus some time ago. $295 for springs, shocks, struts, and a fat rear sway bar. I called and talked to them, and they were very knowlegable on the phone. A few days later my parts arrived, factory sealed boxes labled Ford Racing. How cool! Yesterday, my daughter and I had a good bonding experience putting all these parts on the car. I have to say it totally tranformed the turn in and ride feel, and handling in general. But, like the BAT guy said, this was not a "kid rice rocket" suspension and would still ride well, which it does. It is just a bit lower and a whole lot more fun to drive. Liz loves it, becuase it is now nimble like her first car, an early rabbit. The clunk in the front is also gone! The fat rear bar is only about 1/8th thicker than the bar that was there, and I understand the SVT team kept the front bar the same size, so everytihing should be balanced at the limit. I wonder how the car will autocross???? hehe Thought I would put the word out, since this list tends to drive other smaller cars, and there may be a few other Focus/Contour/Fusion/Scorpio owners out there. Have a great day, Jim From leehinger at verizon.net Sun Oct 21 09:24:17 2007 From: leehinger at verizon.net (Lee Ehinger) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 11:24:17 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Installing Front shockies In-Reply-To: <000001c8131e$0c5346f0$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <000401c813f6$76392c00$0301a8c0@ehinger1> Autozone & advance auto & NAPA carry shock dust boots for the 240Z that may also work here. Lee FT Wayne IN -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Graeme Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:35 AM To: 'Peter Jones'; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Installing Front shockies Hi Pete, please ponder no longer! When you look at the Parts Catalog, it clearly shows the shock body at the bottom and the shaft at the top. It also shows a dust boot over the shaft to protect the shaft from the crud you describe. I'm guessing that the dust boots don't survive for long! Do your KYB's come with a dust boot? If not, I suggest that the boots are now redundant and crud is of no consequence. Also, the shock valving might only work correctly when the body is at the bottom. Listers, I have a question that needs to be answered. When installing front shockies, does the shaft go up or down? I have 2 roadsters and they are both different. I am installing KYB's and if installed so you can read the label it is shaft up, but with this way wouldn't all the road grime get stuck in the seal and wear this out. Shaft down would mean no grime would effect the seal. The mind ponders????? Pete. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1081 - Release Date: 19/10/2007 5:41 PM From kendelmccarley at cox.net Sun Oct 21 10:13:57 2007 From: kendelmccarley at cox.net (kendelmccarley at cox.net) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 9:13:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Differences in carb piston damper rods? Message-ID: <20071021121357.H4NWR.27300.root@fed1wml15.mgt.cox.net> I've been working on getting a '70 1600 running that was missing a damper and cap from one of the carbs. Joe Russo was kind enough to fish one out of his stash to sent me but, after installing it, the car still runs poorly. I pulled the air cleaner to check the rise and fall of the carb pistons. Sure enough, one of them was much more resistant to movement than the other. When I switched the dampers from carb to carb, the one with Joe's part was harder to move. The only difference I can see between the two is that the one Joe sent me is around a sixteenth of an inch longer, putting the damper part farther down into the carb. How does this make a difference? If I mod the new part to be a bit shorter (pull it out of the cap, cut it down, and re-insert into cap) will that cure this problem? From kendelmccarley at cox.net Sun Oct 21 11:44:28 2007 From: kendelmccarley at cox.net (kendelmccarley at cox.net) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:44:28 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Differences in carb damper - Figured out In-Reply-To: <20071021121357.H4NWR.27300.root@fed1wml15.mgt.cox.net> Message-ID: <20071021134428.2X6GC.27862.root@fed1wml15.mgt.cox.net> Okay, answering my own questions here. After posting, I had a few ideas on how to debug things. First, I figured out that if I don't thread the longer rod all the way in so that it's effectively the same length as the original, the carb pistons rise and fall the same way. With that in place, the car started and idled, but would stumble on acceleration. Hmmmm..... why the stumble? Well, in an attempt to find out why, I then screwed the longer damper all the way in. The piston with the shorter damper was opening much quicker on acceleration, so I stuck a finger in that carb against the piston to slow it down. Aha! Now, the engine accelerates nicely. Take my finger off so that the piston opens quickly again and it goes back to stumbling. Conclusion? The one damper that came with the car is wrong. Man, oh man. These old carbs are so cool. I've messed with SUs on British cars, but these, while similar, are different and fun to play with. Joe, do you have another one of those dampers and caps in your stash? ---- kendelmccarley at cox.net wrote: ============= I've been working on getting a '70 1600 running that was missing a damper and cap from one of the carbs. Joe Russo was kind enough to fish one out of his stash to sent me but, after installing it, the car still runs poorly. I pulled the air cleaner to check the rise and fall of the carb pistons. Sure enough, one of them was much more resistant to movement than the other. When I switched the dampers from carb to carb, the one with Joe's part was harder to move. The only difference I can see between the two is that the one Joe sent me is around a sixteenth of an inch longer, putting the damper part farther down into the carb. How does this make a difference? If I mod the new part to be a bit shorter (pull it out of the cap, cut it down, and re-insert into cap) will that cure this problem? ________________________________________ kendelmccarley at cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From RacerY at comcast.net Sun Oct 21 13:53:55 2007 From: RacerY at comcast.net (RacerY at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:53:55 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] ka24 Message-ID: <102120071953.4371.471BAE530001FAEA000011132207020853A79D0A0C0EAD@comcast.net> "the supercharged KA24DE" Is that a KA24DES, then? heh heh... Toby From gsglasgow at comcast.net Sun Oct 21 17:24:39 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:24:39 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Parts Report on British American Tranfer and FocusParts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just for the edification and enlightenment of the suspension geeks out there, the stiffness of a sway bar increases as the 4th power of the diameter. So a 1.2" diameter bar has about twice the stiffness of a 1" bar. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org > Hello List, > > O.T, Focus Parts Source: > > The fat rear bar is only about 1/8th thicker than the bar that was there, > and I understand the SVT team kept the front bar the same size, so > everytihing should be balanced at the limit. I wonder how the car will > autocross???? hehe From matthews517 at earthlink.net Sun Oct 21 19:15:29 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:15:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] alternator In-Reply-To: <001201c8127d$7c25c080$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: Hi All, Back from Nashville. It was a BEAUTIFUL day in Middle Tennessee for a drive, and the Styx show on Wednesday was one of the best (I've been to 40 of them now!). OK, back to the subject. I recently put in a GM alternator. Actually, I've put in 4. First one, I wired backwards at the #1/#2 terminals (don't do this). Second one I bought off eBay. It was a new "one wire" alternator. It was exactly as described. I didn't do my research. It's not what we need. It's not set up for remote sensing and the windings are different. I got it mostly because it was new and had a smaller pulley (don't do this). The third one was just not working right. I'll either take it back to Pep Boys or keep it for spare parts (bearings, screws, condenser, brushes). 4th was from AutoZone. It's been in for over a week. No problems. Works great, had no issues so far with power. Lights, stereo, heater, brake lights, AND wipers all work at the same time at idle without the volt meter going below 12v! Matt Smith - SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:26 PM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] alternator There's a few websites out there that'll tell you how to do it, but, unlike generators, alternators are basically remove & replace items. Cheap at $30-$40, or spend a little more and upgrade to a higher output GM alternator. Ciao. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:15 AM To: Datsun Roadster Group Subject: [Roadsters] alternator Does anyone rebuild Roadster alternators anymore? ________________________________________ matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsglasgow at comcast.net Sun Oct 21 20:17:03 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:17:03 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: 1966 Datsun Roadster Message-ID: Hi, gang. I got this request today from a person in San Bernadino, looking for a roadster-knowlegeable mechanic in that area. If anyone knows someone who could help. please respond to her directly. Thanks. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org -----Original Message----- From: Julie Sloway [mailto:julie at primetimespeakers.com] Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 1:14 PM To: me at gordon-glasgow.org Subject: 1966 Datsun Roadster Hi Gordon, I'm considering buying a 1966 Datsun1600 Roadster in So Cal and need a mechanic to check it out.. Do you know of anyone down there or have other suggestions? Thanks, Julie Sloway From jklingman at stny.rr.com Sun Oct 21 19:20:08 2007 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:20:08 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] carb issue? Message-ID: <001c01c81449$af7752a0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Hi all, Went out for a drive yesterday to Watkins Glen, about 90 miles from us, and the ribbon candy road between Ithaca and the Glen is fantastic. Started the roadster this morning and started fine, ran good but when I gave her some gas to back out Spike stuttered. This is something new, went out for a short drive and ran fine until I stepped down on the gas. Sputters and hesitates like bad gas, smooths out and runs ok as long as I am real easy with the gas pedal. Came home and I added dry gas, Lucas, new gas filter and a fresh fill up. Went out again and the same thing. I am thinking it is a carb issue. John and Gloria Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike From alvingogi at hotmail.com Sun Oct 21 22:39:07 2007 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:39:07 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Fun Run Pics!! Message-ID: Here are pics from today's fun run:http://rides.webshots.com/album/561131178nhJUtx Matt put together another great route and the weather was great!The trip was 2hrs long and we covered about 85 miles. Great twisties! Matt was in his '68 SPL,http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2614297940102308741lFLYRo Jim in his '70 SRL, I am always impressed with his driving. He did a half donut that I should have got on video...fastest SU-car I've ever seen!http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2896361410102308741oiEDfo Todd in his '68 SRL,http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2010170170102308741qjRyty and we had a newcomer Greg in his pretty '66.The dash and gauges were so clean.Hope you enjoyed the ride!http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2647967720102308741ywOgfJ I drove my "other" Fairlady :wink: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2758910220102308741hFCWbk See you next time! Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From joek at camberconstruction.com Sun Oct 21 23:18:32 2007 From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:18:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fun Run Pics!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200710220518.l9M5IU6N021908@flpi102.prodigy.net> Wish I was there, someone needed to represent the color black. Joe Kinstle '68 2L BLK SRL From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 22 05:18:31 2007 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 04:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] carb issue? In-Reply-To: <001c01c81449$af7752a0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Message-ID: <142751.10386.qm@web52805.mail.re2.yahoo.com> You may be running a little lean. Try giving it a little bit of choke & see if the problem goes away. If so, richen up the mixture just a tad. Hope this solves it... Mike SC '66 1600 (Jessie) --- John Klingman wrote: > Hi all, > Went out for a drive yesterday to Watkins Glen, > about 90 miles from us, and > the ribbon candy road between Ithaca and the Glen is > fantastic. Started the > roadster this morning and started fine, ran good but > when I gave her some gas > to back out Spike stuttered. This is something new, > went out for a short drive > and ran fine until I stepped down on the gas. > Sputters and hesitates like bad > gas, smooths out and runs ok as long as I am real > easy with the gas pedal. > Came home and I added dry gas, Lucas, new gas filter > and a fresh fill up. Went > out again and the same thing. I am thinking it is a > carb issue. > John and Gloria Klingman > Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike > ________________________________________ > > roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From fairlady66 at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 06:24:24 2007 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 05:24:24 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties Message-ID: I am finally replacing my dash. When I pulled the carpet off of it yesterday and took the old dash out there were only 2 twisties. I have a Tonneau Cover coming in a few days and I am going to need a couple more twisties. Anyone have a few twisties to spare? I am doing all the door rubber and windshield frame at this time as well. If there are any spare twisties laying around that would like a home where they can be put to use please let me know. Thank you, Chris -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one. From matt at vander-bend.com Mon Oct 22 09:37:13 2007 From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:37:13 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Fun Run Pics!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks to ALL!! Good times!! Rich, we pulled into @ AJC park, did a loop of the place and found not 1 parking spot and bailed up the hill, Grande football matches going on!! Thanks for Day road-Trout Gulch.. that was a hoot! Next run will be sooner than later~ Matt -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matt=vander-bend.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of alvin gogineni Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 9:39 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Fun Run Pics!! Here are pics from today's fun run:http://rides.webshots.com/album/561131178nhJUtx Matt put together another great route and the weather was great!The trip was 2hrs long and we covered about 85 miles. Great twisties! Matt was in his '68 SPL,http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2614297940102308741lFLYRo Jim in his '70 SRL, I am always impressed with his driving. He did a half donut that I should have got on video...fastest SU-car I've ever seen!http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2896361410102308741oiEDfo Todd in his '68 SRL,http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2010170170102308741qjRyty and we had a newcomer Greg in his pretty '66.The dash and gauges were so clean.Hope you enjoyed the ride!http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2647967720102308741ywOgfJ I drove my "other" Fairlady :wink: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2758910220102308741hFCWbk See you next time! Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ________________________________________ matt at vander-bend.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matt at vander-bend.com Mon Oct 22 09:52:54 2007 From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:52:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] fyi Passing along-411 In-Reply-To: <200710220518.l9M5IU6N021908@flpi102.prodigy.net> Message-ID: Just passing along, anyone with 411 info may want to contact Ian... > "Hey I saw your ad for the datsun fun run. I thought > you may have some connections to find a 67ish RL > 411. I had one about 8 years ago that I wish I > never let go. Now I am lookin for one in decent > shape I can restore to perfect. Any clues where to > look?" > > Thanks, > Ian > -Ian ianwelles at gmail.com From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Oct 22 13:00:45 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:00:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties set, remainder Message-ID: Chris, I bought a complete set to replace a few that were missing when I bought my car way back when. One is riding around on Peter Vandermost's (sp?) car in SF Bay Area. I have a few to spare for you too. No charge, goes into Roadster Karma bank balance. I'll try to get them in the post by next week at the latest. Fergus O From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Oct 22 13:28:25 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:28:25 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Pics from SoCal Car Show, moons ago Message-ID: So, myself and Tim Miner went to a local (Irvine, CA) car show this past Saturday, and in looking for posted pics (none of this week, yet) I found a few from a few months ago when Paul Bauman and Jon Frampton were there. This guy does nice artistic shots. Met a newly discovered roadster owner, Patti from Laguna, who has a positive ground 1500 that she has owned from new. Hasn't had it on the road in a while, is looking for a positive ground mechanic to help with some wiring gremlins, so I have been sending her links to local MG clubs and the like. The car show itslf is pretty sick with modern supercars, (~20% of the total) and while there are some elements of a new Lambo or Ferrari that are nice, seeing 8-18 in a row is pretty darn boring, soul-less, and devoid of any character. Anyway, a few roadster pics from weeks / months ago. http://www.autoworksphoto.com/popular/#151924764 http://www.autoworksphoto.com/popular/#151924936 Fergus O From ricksrl at yahoo.com Mon Oct 22 20:21:29 2007 From: ricksrl at yahoo.com (Rick Stayner) Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] carb issue? In-Reply-To: <001c01c81449$af7752a0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Message-ID: <931640.62720.qm@web63709.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Something similar happened to my 69 2K, found screw that syncs carbies backed off. Re-sync-ed and added lock nut (10-32). Way better. Rick Stayner 1969 2K Harrisburg,Pa John Klingman wrote: Hi all, Went out for a drive yesterday to Watkins Glen, about 90 miles from us, and the ribbon candy road between Ithaca and the Glen is fantastic. Started the roadster this morning and started fine, ran good but when I gave her some gas to back out Spike stuttered. This is something new, went out for a short drive and ran fine until I stepped down on the gas. Sputters and hesitates like bad gas, smooths out and runs ok as long as I am real easy with the gas pedal. Came home and I added dry gas, Lucas, new gas filter and a fresh fill up. Went out again and the same thing. I am thinking it is a carb issue. John and Gloria Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike ________________________________________ ricksrl at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lars.tungen at abaris.no Tue Oct 23 04:35:58 2007 From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:35:58 +0200 Subject: [Roadsters] Matchin VIN and engine numbers Message-ID: <005201c81560$7fc77180$7864640a@ABARIS.LOCAL> Hi all, I am working on a Vin# decoder for the online Fairlady parts catalog and need some help. To be able to match some engine parts to the correct VIN# ranges I must first match R16 & U20 engine numbers to VIN#. I have not been able to find much information about this, so I have decided to try to use some statistics. Using available data from the roadster registry at 311s.org it was possible to create diagrams showing the relationship between engine numbers and vins. An example of this for the 1965-67 SPL311 is available here: http://tinyurl.com/2zc5ln Some cars obviously have had their engines swapped, but with more data it should be possible to achive some very accurate results. Unfortunately, very few of the entries in the 311s.org registry contains engine#. So therefore I am looking for VIN# matched to engine numbers. If you want to help please send me your vin & engine number to my email address: lars.tungen at abaris.no. I need data for all models, engines and years: SP310, SPL310, SP311, SRL31, SP311, SR311.... And if you are certain that your engine has not been swapped, please give me a heads up on that fact. That would improve the accuracy of the data even more. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Lars Tungen No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.6/1086 - Release Date: 22.10.2007 19:57 From matthews517 at earthlink.net Tue Oct 23 06:35:57 2007 From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 08:35:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! In-Reply-To: <002901c810fc$fd68dc90$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: I've seen that before. I watched the auction on eBay when he bought it. I had dreamed of doing that to my dads 68 1600 since I was old enough to know anything about cars. I ended up with several Mustangs over the years. All of them between 64 and 66 models with 289 or 302 engines (partly so I could know enough about the engines when I found a roadster to put them in). :-) Enjoy the project Rob!!! Take MANY pictures! Matt Smith -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 4:33 PM To: roadstergb at aol.com; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! Eric Hankinson has a Ford V8 roadster: Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of roadstergb at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:54 PM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Datsun Roadster - what have I done?! OK, I've never been a big fan of engine swaps, but yesterday I agreed the purchase of?a 2000 roadster with a small block Ford V8 - it originally came from the USA when it ran as a V8 but has been in a barn in the UK for the last 10 years?- it needs a whole load of work but it will make such an interesting toy when finished. ? The question is ... does anyone have any experience?of the results of such a conversion? Are the standard brakes/gearbox up to it? Any hints/tips/horror stories greatly appreciated.?? Many thanks. Rob www.fairlady.org ________________________________________ matthews517 at earthlink.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From bubwin at mts.net Tue Oct 23 08:15:00 2007 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:15:00 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Differences in carb damper - Figured out In-Reply-To: <20071021134428.2X6GC.27862.root@fed1wml15.mgt.cox.net> References: <20071021134428.2X6GC.27862.root@fed1wml15.mgt.cox.net> Message-ID: <45614F201B604603AD9352F3658CEA70@BobPC> Do both carbs have the same viscosity oil in them? Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Differences in carb damper - Figured out > Okay, answering my own questions here. After posting, I had a few ideas > on how to debug things. First, I figured out that if I don't thread the > longer rod all the way in so that it's effectively the same length as the > original, the carb pistons rise and fall the same way. With that in > place, the car started and idled, but would stumble on acceleration. > > Hmmmm..... why the stumble? Well, in an attempt to find out why, I then > screwed the longer damper all the way in. The piston with the shorter > damper was opening much quicker on acceleration, so I stuck a finger in > that carb against the piston to slow it down. Aha! Now, the engine > accelerates nicely. Take my finger off so that the piston opens quickly > again and it goes back to stumbling. > > Conclusion? The one damper that came with the car is wrong. Man, oh man. > These old carbs are so cool. I've messed with SUs on British cars, but > these, while similar, are different and fun to play with. > > Joe, do you have another one of those dampers and caps in your stash? > > > > > > > ---- kendelmccarley at cox.net wrote: > > ============= > I've been working on getting a '70 1600 running that was missing a damper > and cap from one of the carbs. Joe Russo was kind enough to fish one out > of his stash to sent me but, after installing it, the car still runs > poorly. I pulled the air cleaner to check the rise and fall of the carb > pistons. Sure enough, one of them was much more resistant to movement > than the other. When I switched the dampers from carb to carb, the one > with Joe's part was harder to move. > > The only difference I can see between the two is that the one Joe sent me > is around a sixteenth of an inch longer, putting the damper part farther > down into the carb. How does this make a difference? If I mod the new > part to be a bit shorter (pull it out of the cap, cut it down, and > re-insert into cap) will that cure this problem? > ________________________________________ > > kendelmccarley at cox.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > > bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From kendelmccarley at cox.net Tue Oct 23 08:32:29 2007 From: kendelmccarley at cox.net (kendelmccarley at cox.net) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 7:32:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Differences in carb damper - Figured out In-Reply-To: <45614F201B604603AD9352F3658CEA70@BobPC> Message-ID: <20071023103229.NF264.46670.root@fed1wml15.mgt.cox.net> Of course they do. Like I said in my earlier post, when I switch dampers back and forth between the carbs, the behavior moves with the damper. That would indicate the difference in the damper length causes the change as that's the only variable in the equation. ---- Bubba wrote: ============= Do both carbs have the same viscosity oil in them? Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Differences in carb damper - Figured out > Okay, answering my own questions here. After posting, I had a few ideas > on how to debug things. First, I figured out that if I don't thread the > longer rod all the way in so that it's effectively the same length as the > original, the carb pistons rise and fall the same way. With that in > place, the car started and idled, but would stumble on acceleration. > > Hmmmm..... why the stumble? Well, in an attempt to find out why, I then > screwed the longer damper all the way in. The piston with the shorter > damper was opening much quicker on acceleration, so I stuck a finger in > that carb against the piston to slow it down. Aha! Now, the engine > accelerates nicely. Take my finger off so that the piston opens quickly > again and it goes back to stumbling. > > Conclusion? The one damper that came with the car is wrong. Man, oh man. > These old carbs are so cool. I've messed with SUs on British cars, but > these, while similar, are different and fun to play with. > > Joe, do you have another one of those dampers and caps in your stash? > > > > > > > ---- kendelmccarley at cox.net wrote: > > ============= > I've been working on getting a '70 1600 running that was missing a damper > and cap from one of the carbs. Joe Russo was kind enough to fish one out > of his stash to sent me but, after installing it, the car still runs > poorly. I pulled the air cleaner to check the rise and fall of the carb > pistons. Sure enough, one of them was much more resistant to movement > than the other. When I switched the dampers from carb to carb, the one > with Joe's part was harder to move. > > The only difference I can see between the two is that the one Joe sent me > is around a sixteenth of an inch longer, putting the damper part farther > down into the carb. How does this make a difference? If I mod the new > part to be a bit shorter (pull it out of the cap, cut it down, and > re-insert into cap) will that cure this problem? > ________________________________________ > > kendelmccarley at cox.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > > bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 23 09:04:23 2007 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:04:23 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] carb issue? In-Reply-To: <001c01c81449$af7752a0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> References: <001c01c81449$af7752a0$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Message-ID: hi john, i hate to state the obvious, but, be sure the carb pistons are topped up with a light oil. no oil can make the eng. hesitate on accel. good luck, bob >> > From: jklingman at stny.rr.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 21:20:08 -0400> Subject: [Roadsters] carb issue?> > Hi all,> Went out for a drive yesterday to Watkins Glen, about 90 miles from us, and> the ribbon candy road between Ithaca and the Glen is fantastic. Started the> roadster this morning and started fine, ran good but when I gave her some gas> to back out Spike stuttered. This is something new, went out for a short drive> and ran fine until I stepped down on the gas. Sputters and hesitates like bad> gas, smooths out and runs ok as long as I am real easy with the gas pedal.> Came home and I added dry gas, Lucas, new gas filter and a fresh fill up. Went> out again and the same thing. I am thinking it is a carb issue.> John and Gloria Klingman> Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike> ________________________________________> > rksmith46 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971 033 From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 23 09:14:25 2007 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:14:25 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Parts Report on British American Tranfer and FocusParts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hi all, about the rear sway bar: they do keep the roadster flater in the turns, but you need a limited slip rear end to keep(inside) wheel spin to a minimun. also, you should use a little smaller rear bar than the front. better balance. i tried to autcross with a rear bar and open rear end, and, on tight turns, i just spun the rear wheel like crazy. bob> From: gsglasgow at comcast.net> To: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:24:39 -0800> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Parts Report on British American Tranfer and FocusParts> > Just for the edification and enlightenment of the suspension geeks out> there, the stiffness of a sway bar increases as the 4th power of the> diameter. So a 1.2" diameter bar has about twice the stiffness of a 1" bar.> > Gordon Glasgow> Renton, WA> www.gordon-glasgow.org> > > > Hello List,> >> > O.T, Focus Parts Source:> >> > The fat rear bar is only about 1/8th thicker than the bar that was there,> > and I understand the SVT team kept the front bar the same size, so> > everytihing should be balanced at the limit. I wonder how the car will> > autocross???? hehe> ________________________________________> > rksmith46 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Cafi. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLt agline From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 23 09:49:42 2007 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:49:42 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Parts Report on British American Tranfer and FocusParts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: oops, i thought we were talking about a roadster, as gilda radner used to say, "never mind". bob> From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com> To: gsglasgow at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:14:25 -0400> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Parts Report on British American Tranfer and FocusParts> > hi all, about the rear sway bar: they do keep the roadster flater in> the turns, but you need a limited slip rear end to keep(inside)> wheel spin to a minimun. also, you should use a little smaller rear> bar than the front. better balance. i tried to autcross with a rear> bar and open rear end, and, on tight turns, i just spun the rear wheel like> crazy. bob> From: gsglasgow at comcast.net> To: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com;> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:24:39 -0800>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Parts Report on British American Tranfer and> FocusParts> > Just for the edification and enlightenment of the suspension> geeks out> there, the stiffness of a sway bar increases as the 4th power of> the> diameter. So a 1.2" diameter bar has about twice the stiffness of a 1"> bar.> > Gordon Glasgow> Renton, WA> www.gordon-glasgow.org> > > > Hello List,>> >> > O.T, Focus Parts Source:> >> > The fat rear bar is only about 1/8th> thicker than the bar that was there,> > and I understand the SVT team kept the> front bar the same size, so> > everytihing should be balanced at the limit. I> wonder how the car will> > autocross???? hehe>> ________________________________________> > rksmith46 at hotmail.com> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> _________________________________________________________________> Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Cafi. Stop by> today.> http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLt> agline> ________________________________________> > rksmith46 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook  together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971 033 From jklingman at stny.rr.com Tue Oct 23 10:08:21 2007 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:08:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] carb issue-part2 Message-ID: <001701c8158e$ef370980$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Thanks to everyone for the carb input, all are saved for reference. Forgot to mention they are SU and were serviced this early summer along with some other engine work ,and the oil is monitored. Checking the oil level in the carbs is a reminder everybody needs. Spike has run like a dream. We would be remiss if we didn't add info about some changes that were made that we questioned and Fred Davidson expressed doubts when he saw the car at the Glen. The fuel line was shortened and re-routed up and over the cam cover with the glass fuel filter on the downward side before the carbs. This may be causing a vapor lock or allowing debris to collect at the start of the incline. Is our hind sight 20/20? looking at the engine pictures and my Datsun shop manual it looks like the flat path of the original fuel line puts less stress on the fuel pump, allow any bubbles to flatten out and the intake would cool the line as it passes across the front of the radiator and keeps the line away from source of heat. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney , NY '68 2000 aka Spike From CBrucciani at archinsurance.com Tue Oct 23 12:40:09 2007 From: CBrucciani at archinsurance.com (Brucciani, Chris) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:40:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] OT - 12 cylinder 240Z Message-ID: And it is for sale!! http://ca.geocities.com/dotdotdot at rogers.com/ Chris Brucciani Marietta, GA 1973 240Z 1995 Miata 1998 BMW 540i6 -------------------------------------------------------- The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and confidential information and is intended only for the use of the individual and/or entity identified in the alias address of this message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby requested not to distribute or copy this communication. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and delete the original message from your system. From snsowens at mtaonline.net Tue Oct 23 14:23:36 2007 From: snsowens at mtaonline.net (snsowens at mtaonline.net) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:23:36 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) Message-ID: <20071023132336.BA67D319@resin13.mta.everyone.net> I may have sent this before, but I wasn't using mojordomo right soooo I have the chance to get a 2000 roadster. Seems pretty sound. However, its mechanical engine, transmission, is in lots of peices. Seems to be all of the pieces, in fact a lot of what appears to be duplicate parts. Now, I have done some limited work on cars, timing, braks, etc. Is this something that I should even be considering or would I be getting into something over my head. Thanks for the help. Sean From hallosb at juno.com Wed Oct 24 08:06:44 2007 From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:06:44 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Fun Run Pics!! Message-ID: <20071024.070644.10548.0@webmail20.vgs.untd.com> Alvin, Thanks for the pics. Ask Greg where he got the steering wheel wrap. My car has the exact same cover. My dad was the original owner. I always thought it was an aftermarket thing. I wonder if they were sold by Datsun. Dan McHatton '66 1600 From tputland at charter.net Wed Oct 24 15:03:50 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:03:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Complete rubber set? Message-ID: <20071024170350.0YKTF.66810.root@fepweb06> Hi all. I know this question was posted earlier this year but I never saw an answer either way... Does any one vendor sell a complete rubber set? All grommets, seals, etc... TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL ---now both running great with GB EI dizzys! Still clueless but always learning From tputland at charter.net Wed Oct 24 15:03:56 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:03:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Complete rubber set? Message-ID: <20071024170356.3P8R3.66831.root@fepweb06> Hi all. I know this question was posted earlier this year but I never saw an answer either way... Does any one vendor sell a complete rubber set? All grommets, seals, etc... TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL ---now both running great with GB EI dizzys! Still clueless but always learning From garytew at cox.net Wed Oct 24 17:46:09 2007 From: garytew at cox.net (garytew at cox.net) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:46:09 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Complete rubber set? In-Reply-To: <20071024170356.3P8R3.66831.root@fepweb06> Message-ID: <20071024194609.AN0Q1.98540.root@fed1wml02.mgt.cox.net> Dean at datsunparts.com has a nice one. I used it on my '67 project. Gary Tew Phx, AZ ---- tputland at charter.net wrote: > Hi all. > > I know this question was posted earlier this year but I never saw an answer either way... > > Does any one vendor sell a complete rubber set? All grommets, seals, etc... > > TIA > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL ---now both running great with GB EI dizzys! > Still clueless but always learning > ________________________________________ > > garytew at cox.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Wed Oct 24 17:50:41 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (roadsters at hornesystemstx.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:50:41 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] California fires Message-ID: <20071024165041.8155fbcbd03985ff4dca9f493a673dff.f8ef233316.wbe@email.secureserver.net> I flew into the Los Angeles area yesterday and was quite surprised by all the smoke we saw from the air. i grew up in L.A county, but never experienced as much smoke and fires as this. Is anyone in the areas affected? Hope not, and may everyone be safe from these fires. Peace, Pat From drlsmith at dccnet.com Wed Oct 24 18:48:50 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:48:50 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] California fires References: <20071024165041.8155fbcbd03985ff4dca9f493a673dff.f8ef233316.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <000901c816a0$d03e2050$4f2fcf18@Daryl> I'll second that thought. > I flew into the Los Angeles area yesterday and was quite surprised by > all the smoke we saw from the air. i grew up in L.A county, but never > experienced as much smoke and fires as this. > Is anyone in the areas affected? Hope not, and may everyone be safe > from these fires. > Peace, > Pat From stl at adnc.com Wed Oct 24 18:57:42 2007 From: stl at adnc.com (stl at adnc.com) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] California fires In-Reply-To: <20071024165041.8155fbcbd03985ff4dca9f493a673dff.f8ef233316.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20071024165041.8155fbcbd03985ff4dca9f493a673dff.f8ef233316.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <33784.69.3.182.152.1193273862.squirrel@webmail.adnc.com> Pat, In San Diego we are in our 4th day of fires with over 300,000 acres burned, 1,200 homes destroyed, and thousands of fire refugees living at Qualcomm Stadium and other locations. Normal life has ceased this week in San Diego and everyhone is focused on doing what they can to help people who have been evacuated from the fires and those that have lost their homes. Steve Landuyt '69 2000 > I flew into the Los Angeles area yesterday and was quite surprised > by all the smoke we saw from the air. i grew up in L.A county, but > never experienced as much smoke and fires as this. > Is anyone in the areas affected? Hope not, and may everyone be > safe from these fires. > Peace, > Pat > ________________________________________ > > stl at adnc.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ----------------------------------------- This email was sent using AIS WebMail. http://www.americanis.net/ From garytew at cox.net Wed Oct 24 19:20:14 2007 From: garytew at cox.net (garytew at cox.net) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:20:14 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] brake and clutch pedal spring Message-ID: <20071024212014.1M1FG.99918.root@fed1wml02.mgt.cox.net> Anyone have a good replacement for the return springs for the clutch and brake pedals. Thanks Gary Tew Phx, AZ early '67 1600 From d-solomon at comcast.net Wed Oct 24 19:22:23 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:22:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] California fires In-Reply-To: <33784.69.3.182.152.1193273862.squirrel@webmail.adnc.com> References: <20071024165041.8155fbcbd03985ff4dca9f493a673dff.f8ef233316.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <33784.69.3.182.152.1193273862.squirrel@webmail.adnc.com> Message-ID: <471FEFCF.2050702@comcast.net> I flew into San Diego on sunday evening for what should have been 5 days of training in Carlsbad. I was very saddened by the devastation that could be seen from the air. I hope those folks have insurance, but even so, the emotional impact must be severe. I ended-up cutting the meeting sshort, and came home last night (tuesday night) so the Hotel could have the rooms for others who were being evacuated. Very sad indeed. Are any of you being threatened by this? Dan stl at adnc.com wrote: > Pat, > > In San Diego we are in our 4th day of fires with over 300,000 acres > burned, 1,200 homes destroyed, and thousands of fire refugees living at > Qualcomm Stadium and other locations. Normal life has ceased this week in > San Diego and everyhone is focused on doing what they can to help people > who have been evacuated from the fires and those that have lost their > homes. > > Steve Landuyt > '69 2000 > > > >> I flew into the Los Angeles area yesterday and was quite surprised >> by all the smoke we saw from the air. i grew up in L.A county, but >> never experienced as much smoke and fires as this. >> Is anyone in the areas affected? Hope not, and may everyone be >> safe from these fires. >> Peace, >> Pat >> ________________________________________ >> >> stl at adnc.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > > > > ----------------------------------------- > This email was sent using AIS WebMail. > http://www.americanis.net/ > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From fergus06 at socal.rr.com Wed Oct 24 20:25:55 2007 From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:25:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] air cleaner (crankcase breather) alternative Message-ID: <006401c816ae$5f7e1c40$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176> I have always wanted alternate air cleaners, but never really liked the idea of not having the crankcase breather plumbed. from Alvin's fun run pics (thanks again Alvin), someone's 1600 has a different approach. Where are the entry points for these brass fittings? Are the running them without air horns, and connecting to the air cleaner backing plate? http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2590608130102308741hgGKib Fergus O From aultgc at jorsm.com Wed Oct 24 20:38:51 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:38:51 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] California fires References: <20071024165041.8155fbcbd03985ff4dca9f493a673dff.f8ef233316.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: <004901c816b0$2e725880$06a0aa42@gaxp1> Unfortunately, the fires in Santa Clarita appear to have claimed at least two roadsters. CNN was running footage of the fire area last evening (10/23/07). The commentator noted something to the effect "This person must have been a collector of rare, old cars...", and the camera panned to the burned-out hulks of what was unmistakably two roadsters. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: [Roadsters] California fires > I flew into the Los Angeles area yesterday and was quite surprised by > all the smoke we saw from the air. i grew up in L.A county, but never > experienced as much smoke and fires as this. > Is anyone in the areas affected? Hope not, and may everyone be safe > from these fires. > Peace, > Pat > ________________________________________ > > aultgc at jorsm.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Oct 24 21:24:32 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:24:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] California fires In-Reply-To: <004901c816b0$2e725880$06a0aa42@gaxp1> Message-ID: SO sad - let's hope that they were beaters and not nice ones. In the 2003 San Diego fire I believe about 10 Packards burnt up in one person's collection. I'm glad I don't live near a fire area. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" >To: , >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] California fires >Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:38:51 -0500 > >Unfortunately, the fires in Santa Clarita appear to have claimed at least >two roadsters. CNN was running footage of the fire area last evening >(10/23/07). The commentator noted something to the effect "This person >must >have been a collector of rare, old cars...", and the camera panned to the >burned-out hulks of what was unmistakably two roadsters. > >Gary Ault > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:50 PM >Subject: [Roadsters] California fires > > > > I flew into the Los Angeles area yesterday and was quite surprised by > > all the smoke we saw from the air. i grew up in L.A county, but never > > experienced as much smoke and fires as this. > > Is anyone in the areas affected? Hope not, and may everyone be safe > > from these fires. > > Peace, > > Pat > > ________________________________________ > > > > aultgc at jorsm.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ > >granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Oct 24 21:44:56 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:44:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ebbro 1600 Message-ID: Hi list Just bought (won) an Ebbro 1600 - for me the FIRST time I have seen a genuine 1600 - everything else I have is 2000 (kits/diecast etc.) Looks like an early one, no overiders, appropriate blue, mirror on dash, tear drop front markers, 1600 grill,megaphone muffler,decal fairliady on side. Side mirrors seem a bit out of scale, but it is at least a 1600. I believe there is also a 'victor laury' ivory one as well. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN From tminerpcav at aol.com Wed Oct 24 23:20:48 2007 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:20:48 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] California fires In-Reply-To: <000901c816a0$d03e2050$4f2fcf18@Daryl> References: <20071024165041.8155fbcbd03985ff4dca9f493a673dff.f8ef233316.wbe@email.secureserver.net> <000901c816a0$d03e2050$4f2fcf18@Daryl> Message-ID: <8C9E4DDEFB0744E-AEC-6475@MBLK-M06.sysops.aol.com> If anyone in San Diego County needs a safe shelter for their cars, I'll offer space in Orange County which I'm certain is safe from the fires.? Let me know if I can help. Tim Miner 949-510-4434 cell ---- Original Message ---- From: Daryl Smith To: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 5:48 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] California fires I'll second that thought. > I flew into the Los Angeles area yesterday and was quite surprised by > all the smoke we saw from the air. i grew up in L.A county, but never > experienced as much smoke and fires as this. > Is anyone in the areas affected? Hope not, and may everyone be safe > from these fires. > Peace, > Pat ________________________________________ tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From printner at att.net Thu Oct 25 06:52:42 2007 From: printner at att.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:52:42 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss Message-ID: <000001c81705$efa39690$6701a8c0@DEN7700> But a stationary roadster does? Check out the seats on this car-they're alive!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-1968-datsun-convertable_W0QQcmdZViewIt emQQcategoryZ6188QQihZ014QQitemZ330180091865 Tim From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Oct 25 07:31:54 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:31:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss References: <000001c81705$efa39690$6701a8c0@DEN7700> Message-ID: <00bc01c8170b$71fdd9c0$a321ffd8@hpcustomer> Well used and abused roadster. Rear end is '68, but it has '70 front side lights? Somebody should rescue it. Paul Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim > But a stationary roadster does? > > Check out the seats on this car-they're alive!! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-1968-datsun-convertable_W0QQcmdZViewIt > emQQcategoryZ6188QQihZ014QQitemZ330180091865 > > Tim From boakes at gmail.com Thu Oct 25 09:26:24 2007 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:26:24 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss In-Reply-To: <00bc01c8170b$71fdd9c0$a321ffd8@hpcustomer> References: <000001c81705$efa39690$6701a8c0@DEN7700> <00bc01c8170b$71fdd9c0$a321ffd8@hpcustomer> Message-ID: <3ad057d60710250826l2e3d58c4ufbb5c70586ecafa5@mail.gmail.com> This one has been up for sale before, not sure what the minimum is - I'd be up for rescuing but it's a bit of a drive for me with a truck and trailer (about 350 miles) so it would have to go pretty cheap. Bill Libertyville, IL On 10/25/07, Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: > Well used and abused roadster. Rear end is '68, but it has '70 front side > lights? > > Somebody should rescue it. > > Paul > Ohio > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim > > > > But a stationary roadster does? > > > > Check out the seats on this car-they're alive!! > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-1968-datsun-convertable_W0QQcmdZViewIt > > emQQcategoryZ6188QQihZ014QQitemZ330180091865 > > > > Tim > ________________________________________ > > boakes at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Oct 25 12:10:46 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:10:46 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss Message-ID: <102520071810.19737.4720DC260006A26000004D192200761064CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> It would be a project, for sure, but it appears most of the pieces are there and straight. Only 38k-ish miles, so good ball joints? Pete -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Tim" > But a stationary roadster does? > > Check out the seats on this car-they're alive!! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-1968-datsun-convertable_W0QQcmdZViewIt > emQQcategoryZ6188QQihZ014QQitemZ330180091865 > > Tim From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Oct 25 12:41:48 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:41:48 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss In-Reply-To: <102520071810.19737.4720DC260006A26000004D192200761064CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> References: <102520071810.19737.4720DC260006A26000004D192200761064CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4720E36C.4080903@RWMann.com> ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote: >It would be a project, for sure, but it appears most of the pieces are there and straight. Only 38k-ish miles, so good ball joints? > >Pete > Or is it 138, 238, as unlikely as it seems, do I hear 338k? (I haven't looked at my odometer recently and don't recall if there is a 100,000's place...) From lberg at minnetronix.com Thu Oct 25 12:44:50 2007 From: lberg at minnetronix.com (Loren Berg) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:44:50 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss Message-ID: <3E4D77A0CBFA0B42AF1D38534C125C2A2226A6@mxmail.minnetronix.com> With a body in that condition and from Iowa, I'd say 38k-ish. We use tons of salt up here in the winter. - Loren (from Minneapolis, MN) '68 1600 w/U20 and 5-sp '70 2000 parts car -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+lberg=minnetronix.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+lberg=minnetronix.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RWM Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:42 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss ppeters914 at comcast.net wrote: >It would be a project, for sure, but it appears most of the pieces are >there and straight. Only 38k-ish miles, so good ball joints? > >Pete > Or is it 138, 238, as unlikely as it seems, do I hear 338k? (I haven't looked at my odometer recently and don't recall if there is a 100,000's place...) ________________________________________ lberg at minnetronix.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From nmleeds at mindspring.com Thu Oct 25 12:53:54 2007 From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:53:54 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? Message-ID: <30814831.1193338434259.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> All, I was getting my alignment done and noticed that my stearing centerlink was bent (wicked turns I guess). The balls are in great shape so I figured I'd just fabricate a new centerlink. Natually, I went to a local construction site and made off with some rebar -- I figured that nobody at the new suspension bridge would notice if there was 15" less reinforcement. After a little time with a hacksaw I was ready to go. But then my partner in datsun pointed out that rebar isn't the world's strongest material, it wasn't taking my threads, and was pretty rust prone. I suggested plastic for its dampening properties -- he laughed at me and made me feel pretty stupid about the whole thing. Now the question is what metal to use? Ideas? 304, 416, 316? Gold? Titanium? Bubble gum? N From Keith0alan at aol.com Thu Oct 25 12:57:22 2007 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:57:22 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out ... Message-ID: In a message dated 10/25/2007 11:54:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, nmleeds at mindspring.com writes: All, I was getting my alignment done and noticed that my stearing centerlink was bent (wicked turns I guess). The balls are in great shape so I figured I'd just fabricate a new centerlink. Natually, I went to a local construction site and made off with some rebar -- I figured that nobody at the new suspension bridge would notice if there was 15" less reinforcement. After a little time with a hacksaw I was ready to go. But then my partner in datsun pointed out that rebar isn't the world's strongest material, it wasn't taking my threads, and was pretty rust prone. I suggested plastic for its dampening properties -- he laughed at me and made me feel pretty stupid about the whole thing. Now the question is what metal to use? Ideas? 304, 416, 316? Gold? Titanium? Bubble gum? N How about a good used one? You need to be careful getting creative with steering bits. keith ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From tputland at charter.net Thu Oct 25 13:14:29 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:14:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? In-Reply-To: <30814831.1193338434259.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20071025151429.JXPKX.29867.root@fepweb07> Have look at what happened up in MN with the Hwy 35 bridge over the Mississippi River and then pray that no one misses using any rebar at a job site. (Not that this is necessarily what happened to this bridge, just making a point.) Any yea, like Keith said, you really don't want to get creative with the steering bits. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote: > All, > > I was getting my alignment done and noticed that my stearing centerlink was bent (wicked turns I guess). The balls are in great shape so I figured I'd just fabricate a new centerlink. Natually, I went to a local construction site and made off with some rebar -- I figured that nobody at the new suspension bridge would notice if there was 15" less reinforcement. > > After a little time with a hacksaw I was ready to go. But then my partner in datsun pointed out that rebar isn't the world's strongest material, it wasn't taking my threads, and was pretty rust prone. I suggested plastic for its dampening properties -- he laughed at me and made me feel pretty stupid about the whole thing. > > Now the question is what metal to use? Ideas? 304, 416, 316? Gold? Titanium? Bubble gum? > > N From D-SOLOMON at comcast.net Thu Oct 25 13:59:36 2007 From: D-SOLOMON at comcast.net (D-SOLOMON at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:59:36 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? Message-ID: <102520071959.692.4720F5A8000A306D000002B42206424413B2B1B3B1B4B1ACD3BB@comcast.net> c'mon. you're kidding, right? Let's be honest here. If we want to chastise him for "stealing" a peice of bar, then let's do that under the premise of "stealing is wrong".... not the false premise that taking a 4' peice of rebar from a scrap-pile at a construction site will somehow cause death, pain and trauma to others. you're using the tragedy of that event to manipulate the emotions of others to try to gain an edge in your argument. That sucks. bad form, if you ask me. Dan -------------- Original message -------------- From: > > 15" less reinforcement.> > > Have look at what happened up in MN with the Hwy 35 bridge over the Mississippi > River and then pray that no one misses using any rebar at a job site. (Not that > this is necessarily what happened to this bridge, just making a point.) > > Any yea, like Keith said, you really don't want to get creative with the > steering bits. > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > ---- nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote: > > All, > > > > I was getting my alignment done and noticed that my stearing centerlink was > bent (wicked turns I guess). The balls are in great shape so I figured I'd just > fabricate a new centerlink. Natually, I went to a local construction site and > made off with some rebar -- I figured that nobody at the new suspension bridge > would notice if there was 15" less reinforcement. > > > > After a little time with a hacksaw I was ready to go. But then my partner in > datsun pointed out that rebar isn't the world's strongest material, it wasn't > taking my threads, and was pretty rust prone. I suggested plastic for its > dampening properties -- he laughed at me and made me feel pretty stupid about > the whole thing. > > > > Now the question is what metal to use? Ideas? 304, 416, 316? Gold? Titanium? > Bubble gum? > > > > N > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Thu Oct 25 15:33:37 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:33:37 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 2008 Nissan GT-R pics Message-ID: For you styling critical gurus, here's something someone here in work sent me. Strong, angular styling lines. 475hp! http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/2008/top-2008-Nissan-GT-R.htm From reblues at reblues.net Thu Oct 25 15:56:54 2007 From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:56:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? References: <102520071959.692.4720F5A8000A306D000002B42206424413B2B1B3B1B4B1ACD3BB@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004301c81751$f5d27760$4201a8c0@ACER4230> Hey, If that rebar center link bends or breaks at the wrong time it may cause death, pain, and trauma to others. I think it was a good comparison to emphasis the hazards of going cheap on these parts. Richard Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? > c'mon. you're kidding, right? > > Let's be honest here. If we want to chastise him for "stealing" a peice > of bar, then let's do that under the premise of "stealing is wrong".... > not the false premise that taking a 4' peice of rebar from a scrap-pile at > a construction site will somehow cause death, pain and trauma to others. > you're using the tragedy of that event to manipulate the emotions of > others to try to gain an edge in your argument. That sucks. > > bad form, if you ask me. > > Dan > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: > >> > 15" less reinforcement.> >> >> Have look at what happened up in MN with the Hwy 35 bridge over the >> Mississippi >> River and then pray that no one misses using any rebar at a job site. >> (Not that >> this is necessarily what happened to this bridge, just making a point.) >> >> Any yea, like Keith said, you really don't want to get creative with the >> steering bits. >> >> Tim >> Belleville, WI. >> '70 SPL AND SRL >> Still clueless but always learning >> >> ---- nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote: >> > All, >> > >> > I was getting my alignment done and noticed that my stearing centerlink >> > was >> bent (wicked turns I guess). The balls are in great shape so I figured >> I'd just >> fabricate a new centerlink. Natually, I went to a local construction site >> and >> made off with some rebar -- I figured that nobody at the new suspension >> bridge >> would notice if there was 15" less reinforcement. >> > >> > After a little time with a hacksaw I was ready to go. But then my >> > partner in >> datsun pointed out that rebar isn't the world's strongest material, it >> wasn't >> taking my threads, and was pretty rust prone. I suggested plastic for its >> dampening properties -- he laughed at me and made me feel pretty stupid >> about >> the whole thing. >> > >> > Now the question is what metal to use? Ideas? 304, 416, 316? Gold? >> > Titanium? >> Bubble gum? >> > >> > N >> ________________________________________ >> >> d-solomon at comcast.net From az589 at lafn.org Thu Oct 25 16:16:54 2007 From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:16:54 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? In-Reply-To: <30814831.1193338434259.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa .earthlink.net> References: <30814831.1193338434259.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20071025151443.0232a170@lafn.org> Get a straight used one. They should be plentiful and they don't wear out. If you want to make one maybe something like 4130 would do. Don't forget that there is a left hand thread on one end. Stan ======== At 11:53 AM 10/25/2007, nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote: >All, > >I was getting my alignment done and noticed that my stearing >centerlink was bent (wicked turns I guess). The balls are in great >shape so I figured I'd just fabricate a new centerlink. Natually, I >went to a local construction site and made off with some rebar -- I >figured that nobody at the new suspension bridge would notice if >there was 15" less reinforcement. > >After a little time with a hacksaw I was ready to go. But then my >partner in datsun pointed out that rebar isn't the world's strongest >material, it wasn't taking my threads, and was pretty rust prone. I >suggested plastic for its dampening properties -- he laughed at me >and made me feel pretty stupid about the whole thing. > >Now the question is what metal to use? Ideas? 304, 416, 316? Gold? >Titanium? Bubble gum? > >N From nmleeds at mindspring.com Thu Oct 25 16:33:58 2007 From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? Message-ID: <1867958.1193351638889.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thanks. Hey, do you know why my letters to the list aren't getting posted. I've been trying to explain that 1) I didn't steal anything from a construction site, let alone a bridge construction site (bad form) nor 2) did I ever try and fabricate a suspension part out of rebar. All my idea of a joke--but now everyone on the list is up in arms that I would do such a thing. Hell I just wanted to know which metal to use (I already have the right hand tap and figured it would be cheaper to buy the left hand and a piece of metal than a used bar -- and I'd get the left hand tap in the bargain.) Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. N -----Original Message----- >From: Stan Chernoff >Sent: Oct 25, 2007 6:16 PM >To: nmleeds at mindspring.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? > >Get a straight used one. They should be plentiful and they don't wear out. > >If you want to make one maybe something like 4130 would do. Don't >forget that there is a left hand thread on one end. > >Stan >======== > >At 11:53 AM 10/25/2007, nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote: >>All, >> >>I was getting my alignment done and noticed that my stearing >>centerlink was bent (wicked turns I guess). The balls are in great >>shape so I figured I'd just fabricate a new centerlink. Natually, I >>went to a local construction site and made off with some rebar -- I >>figured that nobody at the new suspension bridge would notice if >>there was 15" less reinforcement. >> >>After a little time with a hacksaw I was ready to go. But then my >>partner in datsun pointed out that rebar isn't the world's strongest >>material, it wasn't taking my threads, and was pretty rust prone. I >>suggested plastic for its dampening properties -- he laughed at me >>and made me feel pretty stupid about the whole thing. >> >>Now the question is what metal to use? Ideas? 304, 416, 316? Gold? >>Titanium? Bubble gum? >> >>N From slowboy at cox.net Thu Oct 25 18:42:07 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:42:07 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 Owners Manual Message-ID: <001a01c81769$09f95800$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> I need someone with a 67.5 owners manual to tell me about some pages as I believe the copy I have is short one or two. What is in between the cover page and page 2? Thanks! Jim From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Oct 25 19:25:55 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:25:55 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 Owners Manual In-Reply-To: <001a01c81769$09f95800$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Message-ID: <000501c8176f$2ad092e0$6501a8c0@xp> ummmm....page 1? Pete "who just had to" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SlowBoy Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 5:42 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 Owners Manual I need someone with a 67.5 owners manual to tell me about some pages as I believe the copy I have is short one or two. What is in between the cover page and page 2? Thanks! Jim From RacerY at comcast.net Thu Oct 25 20:09:29 2007 From: RacerY at comcast.net (RacerY at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:09:29 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] bent center link Message-ID: <102620070209.29034.47214C5900088DE20000716A2207000953A79D0A0C0EAD@comcast.net> Here's a novel idea- straighten it. there's not too much load on that part, and it's hell- for- stout compared to the end links... Otherwise, I'd use standard DOM tube with a stout wall, like maybe .120... Toby From gsglasgow at comcast.net Thu Oct 25 21:30:40 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:40 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss In-Reply-To: <102520071810.19737.4720DC260006A26000004D192200761064CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Message-ID: 39K miles, right! When did the brake master get swapped out for whatever that is? Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of ppeters914 at comcast.net > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:11 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss > > > It would be a project, for sure, but it appears most of the > pieces are there and straight. Only 38k-ish miles, so good ball > joints? > > Pete > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Tim" > > > But a stationary roadster does? > > > > Check out the seats on this car-they're alive!! > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-1968-datsun-convertable_W0QQ cmdZViewIt > emQQcategoryZ6188QQihZ014QQitemZ330180091865 > > Tim Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From andycost at embarqmail.com Thu Oct 25 21:15:37 2007 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? In-Reply-To: <004301c81751$f5d27760$4201a8c0@ACER4230> Message-ID: <16358588.1476251193368537392.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> You can get a swaged tube at any dirt track supplier like speedway or circle track products for $20 or less. They will sell it in any length. You can also buy a set of heim joints and an adaptor to allow a heim joint to bolt to the place where the tie rod was. From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Oct 25 21:27:59 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:27:59 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 Owners Manual In-Reply-To: <001a01c81769$09f95800$0301a8c0@PCm7170n> Message-ID: I have an earler manual - number 17131 (20330300) printed on back cover. In mine Page 1 & 2 are combined - the piossibly missing page(s) seem to be merely an Index. HTH Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >From: "SlowBoy" >To: >Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 Owners Manual >Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:42:07 -0700 > >I need someone with a 67.5 owners manual to tell me about some pages as I >believe the copy I have is short one or two. > >What is in between the cover page and page 2? > >Thanks! > >Jim >________________________________________ > >granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Oct 25 23:38:25 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:38:25 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000401c81792$6e7f4e00$6501a8c0@xp> Damn! I missed that. Sure looks the one in my old Ford pickup. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Glasgow [mailto:gsglasgow at comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:31 PM To: ppeters914 at comcast.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss 39K miles, right! When did the brake master get swapped out for whatever that is? Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of ppeters914 at comcast.net > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:11 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] a rolling stone gathers no moss > > > It would be a project, for sure, but it appears most of the pieces are > there and straight. Only 38k-ish miles, so good ball joints? > > Pete > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Tim" > > > But a stationary roadster does? > > > > Check out the seats on this car-they're alive!! > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-1968-datsun-convertable_W0QQcmdZViewIt emQQcategoryZ6188QQihZ014QQitemZ330180091865 > > Tim Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From samtheinept at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 26 08:57:18 2007 From: samtheinept at sbcglobal.net (Gary Russell) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 Owners Manual In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <506185.16073.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There is an unnumbered page. The front is a smaller image of the roadster on the cover in a box with a purple background. The back is the Table of Contents. The next sheet is pages 1and 2 Gary Russell. peter harrison wrote: I have an earler manual - number 17131 (20330300) printed on back cover. In mine Page 1 & 2 are combined - the piossibly missing page(s) seem to be merely an Index. HTH Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >From: "SlowBoy" >To: >Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 Owners Manual >Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:42:07 -0700 > >I need someone with a 67.5 owners manual to tell me about some pages as I >believe the copy I have is short one or two. > >What is in between the cover page and page 2? > >Thanks! > >Jim >________________________________________ > >granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ samtheinept at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gregs672liter at netzero.net Fri Oct 26 09:21:39 2007 From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:21:39 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 2008 Nissan GT-R pics Message-ID: <20071026.082139.1670.1@webmail19.vgs.untd.com> An impressive machine no doubt, but ugly as hell to me... Maybe I will like it in person? Will I ever get the chance? Probably not... Greg Burrows -- "O'Farrell, Fergus" wrote: For you styling critical gurus, here's something someone here in work sent me. Strong, angular styling lines. 475hp! http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/2008/top-2008-Nissan-GT-R.htm Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Fri Oct 26 09:36:16 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 2008 Nissan GT-R pics In-Reply-To: <20071026.082139.1670.1@webmail19.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <163307.12065.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Bigmouth front end, a la Audi, is just as ugly on the Skyline as it is on an Audi; little chrome-trimmed openings in the hood are fussy detail - functional?; faux-cycle fender shaping of the front wheel wells with the rear vent are a little too Mazda RX-8ish for my taste. From the rear, whale-tail spoiler could be uglier - I'm just not sure how... Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 "gregs672liter at netzero.net" wrote: An impressive machine no doubt, but ugly as hell to me... Maybe I will like it in person? Will I ever get the chance? Probably not... Greg Burrows -- "O'Farrell, Fergus" wrote: For you styling critical gurus, here's something someone here in work sent me. Strong, angular styling lines. 475hp! http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/2008/top-2008-Nissan-GT-R.htm Datsun-roadsters mailing list From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Fri Oct 26 11:34:46 2007 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:34:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Nice looking Sprite Message-ID: Just got the new issue of Hemmings Sports and Exotics. Really nice looking Sprite on the cover. (Yes, there is such a thing.) Deep grey, red stripes, red wheels, whitewalls. The look seemed to be "borrowed" from some of the racing Datsun Roadsters that I've seen. It's worth a look if anyone out there is thinking of modding their paint scheme. Regards, Greg SRL31100494 "Roadstering since '75" From akarcioglu at telus.net Fri Oct 26 13:24:20 2007 From: akarcioglu at telus.net (alp) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:24:20 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] skyline Message-ID: <1193426660.47223ee45a1c4@webmail.telus.net> looks like a revamped Altima to me! Ugly piece of new crap. From boakes at gmail.com Fri Oct 26 18:01:07 2007 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:01:07 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500? Message-ID: <3ad057d60710261701x7f8d4554u35ae1d817ac2b6cd@mail.gmail.com> Still learning about the Roadsters, this seems to be pretty rare, right? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Datsun-Fairlady-1500-Roadster-Convertible-NO-RES_W0QQitemZ330179043735 From RiedelD at pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Fri Oct 26 18:08:14 2007 From: RiedelD at pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca (Riedel, Dave) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:08:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: 2008 Nissan GT-R pics In-Reply-To: <163307.12065.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <218011F893D1634FBCA605ED0B3749ABE112DA@paciosex01.pac.dfo-mpo.ca> It looks too Mustang to me. I prefer the Z. Dave Riedel Victoria, BC '69 2000 > -----Original Message----- > From: > datsun-roadsters-bounces+riedeld=pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca at autox.team. > net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+riedeld=pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca at aut ox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick > Sent: October 26, 2007 8:36 AM > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: 2008 Nissan GT-R pics > > > Bigmouth front end, a la Audi, is just as ugly on the Skyline > as it is on an Audi; little chrome-trimmed openings in the > hood are fussy detail - functional?; faux-cycle fender > shaping of the front wheel wells with the rear vent are a > little too Mazda RX-8ish for my taste. From the rear, > whale-tail spoiler could be uglier - I'm just not sure how... > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > '70 2000 SRL311-13291 > > "gregs672liter at netzero.net" > wrote: An impressive machine no doubt, but ugly as hell to > me... Maybe I will like it in person? Will I ever get the > chance? Probably not... Greg Burrows > > -- "O'Farrell, Fergus" wrote: > For you styling critical gurus, here's something someone here > in work sent me. Strong, angular styling lines. 475hp! > > http://www.seriouswheels.com/cars/2008/top-2008-Nissan-GT-R.htm > Datsun-roadsters mailing list ________________________________________ > > riedeld at pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com Fri Oct 26 18:12:47 2007 From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:12:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Rare and Appears to be solid, mostly: '63 1500? In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60710261701x7f8d4554u35ae1d817ac2b6cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yep. Very rare. This looks like the real deal and could go quite high if the right folks notice it and start bidding. Guy seems reasonably factual about the car, but I would strongly advise finding a list member to check the car out in person, before spending some good deal on money on it. Where the heck is the air filter? Why does the brake master look brand new? Is this a partial fix to more serious brake needs? Nevertheless.......very, very few of these around in this shape. I would NOT use this as a daily driver! Best Regards, Jim Chesapeake Virginia >From: "Bill Oakes" >Reply-To: boakes at gmail.com >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500? >Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:01:07 -0500 > >Still learning about the Roadsters, this seems to be pretty rare, right? > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Datsun-Fairlady-1500-Roadster-Convertible-NO-RES_W0QQitemZ330179043735 From mark at dealermats.com Fri Oct 26 18:43:29 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:43:29 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500? References: <3ad057d60710261701x7f8d4554u35ae1d817ac2b6cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002301c81832$64f972c0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Very nice, it is a 64 though..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Oakes" To: Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:01 PM Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500? > Still learning about the Roadsters, this seems to be pretty rare, right? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Datsun-Fairlady-1500-Roadster-Convertible-NO-RES_W0QQitemZ330179043735 > ________________________________________ > > mark at dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at jorsm.com Fri Oct 26 19:16:11 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:16:11 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Rare and Appears to be solid, mostly: '63 1500? References: Message-ID: <002f01c81836$f737d0b0$05a0aa42@gaxp1> Two of them on Ebay right now. No top with the second, however. Wonder what happened to it... Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim InVirginia" To: ; Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:12 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Rare and Appears to be solid, mostly: '63 1500? > Yep. > Very rare. This looks like the real deal and could go quite high if the > right folks notice it and start bidding. > > Guy seems reasonably factual about the car, but I would strongly advise > finding a list member to check the car out in person, before spending some > good deal on money on it. > > Where the heck is the air filter? > > Why does the brake master look brand new? Is this a partial fix to more > serious brake needs? > > Nevertheless.......very, very few of these around in this shape. > > I would NOT use this as a daily driver! > > Best Regards, > Jim > Chesapeake Virginia > > >>From: "Bill Oakes" >>Reply-To: boakes at gmail.com >>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >>Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500? >>Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:01:07 -0500 >> >>Still learning about the Roadsters, this seems to be pretty rare, right? >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Datsun-Fairlady-1500-Roadster-Convertible-NO-RES_W0QQitemZ330179043735 > ________________________________________ > > aultgc at jorsm.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsglasgow at comcast.net Fri Oct 26 20:48:11 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:48:11 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] [OT] Some impressive pics from a windstorm in Puget Sound Message-ID: We had a bit of a windstorm here on Oct 18th. Winds hit about 50+ mph. It wasn't TOO bad, we only lost power for about 10 hours. But I just found some really high-quality pics that a guy took watching one of the cross-Sound ferries coming in towards the dock. This is one of the smaller ferries (328 ft). The big ones (460 ft) didn't have as much trouble. I'm sure glad I wasn't on board. http://www.snowest.com/fusetalk/messageview.cfm?catid=11&threadid=336515&ent erthread=y Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org From rksmith46 at hotmail.com Fri Oct 26 20:10:27 2007 From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:10:27 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20071023132336.BA67D319@resin13.mta.everyone.net> References: <20071023132336.BA67D319@resin13.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: hi sean, i applaud your wiilingness to jump in on a project, and if you are willing to get a good manual to learn the ins and outs of the u20 eng. and 5 spd, then go for it. however, it wont be easy. it would be hard enough, if you disassembled the eng. and trans. your self, and catelogued and labeled every thing. but , to take things already in pieces and attempt to reassemble them, hoping that no little important part is missing, would be daunting. best of luck. bob> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:23:36 -0700> From: snsowens at mtaonline.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)> > I may have sent this before, but I wasn't using mojordomo right soooo I have the chance to get a 2000 roadster. Seems pretty sound. However, its mechanical engine, transmission, is in lots of peices. > Seems to be all of the pieces, in fact a lot of what appears to be duplicate parts. Now, I have done some limited work on cars, timing, braks, etc. Is this something that I should even be considering or > would I be getting into something over my head. Thanks for the help. > > Sean> ________________________________________> > rksmith46 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Cafi. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLt agline From andycost at embarqmail.com Fri Oct 26 21:04:28 2007 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:04:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] ka24 In-Reply-To: <102120071953.4371.471BAE530001FAEA000011132207020853A79D0A0C0EAD@comcast.net> Message-ID: Nissan usually uses an R for supercharger. It would be a KA24DER -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+andycost=embarqmail.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+andycost=embarqmail.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of RacerY at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:54 PM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] ka24 "the supercharged KA24DE" Is that a KA24DES, then? heh heh... Toby ________________________________________ From mjb at autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 21:32:15 2007 From: mjb at autox.team.net (Mark J. Bradakis) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:32:15 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: 1963 on ebay] Message-ID: <4722B13F.4090205@autox.team.net> For some reason this was sent to me rather than datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net. mjb. ----- Subject: 1963 on ebay Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:26:37 -0700 From: Seth Asher Anyone have an opinion about this one 311 on eBay right now? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Fairlady-1500-Roadster-1963-Datsun-Fairlady-1500-Roadster-Convertible-NO-RES_W0QQitemZ330179043735QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Seems nice... From mark at dealermats.com Sat Oct 27 07:00:50 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:00:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Rare and Appears to be solid, mostly: '63 1500? References: <002f01c81836$f737d0b0$05a0aa42@gaxp1> Message-ID: <004101c81899$66b3c720$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> The 1500 in California is a nice car, but a few things need to be pointed out. There are a number of hard to get 1500 items. The correct emblems, long side trim, hubcaps, non vented air filter housing and wooden top bow, come to mind. These are all missing on this car, there are 2 top frames in the photo, 1 is the correct frame without the bow, the other is a later frame that will not work. There are electrical problems throughout the car, might be positive ground related, might not. The interior is very worn, with speaker holes cut in the bottom of the doors! If you want a unique car, this is one, as a 3 seat 1500. If you want a correct 3 seat 1500, this is not it. It is far from a true survivor car as advertised Mark From chalsted at comcast.net Sat Oct 27 07:06:57 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:06:57 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Rare and Appears to be solid, mostly: '63 1500? References: <002f01c81836$f737d0b0$05a0aa42@gaxp1> <004101c81899$66b3c720$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <004401c8189a$44543a60$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4> I have SPL310-00003 available, fresh paint, not a rust car to start... interior nice...nice original wheelcovers, nice chrome.. new top in box...still need to detail out the engine and install that along with hydraulics, brakes, new tires... contact me offlist if interested. will be a very nice car when completed Craig From davesmbox at aol.com Sat Oct 27 08:42:28 2007 From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:42:28 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] emblems Message-ID: <8C9E6BEBB2DEE38-114-5ACD@WEBMAIL-DC07.sysops.aol.com> This is a little off topic for Datsuns but I know some of you have had nice grill emblems and key fobs made. Who does this work? While I still love orientals a cute sweed has moved into my garage. I need to make a grill emblem for a Saab Sonett. Thanks, Dave ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From spl310 at hotmail.com Sat Oct 27 10:33:20 2007 From: spl310 at hotmail.com (sidney raper) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:33:20 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Rare and Appears to be solid, mostly: '63 1500? Message-ID: I agree with Mark. The one in Missouri on eBay now is a more complete base from which to start. It does not currently have engine photos, but the side trim and emblems are present. It is missing a front bumper (not a big deal) and the top (more of a big deal). The white interior is a bit disco, but that is easily and fairly cheaply fixed. Maybe Dave Brisco should check this one out...Sidney Raper1964 1500 (still a project.... sigh....)1967 SRL311 00076 (alive again!)Jacksonville Floridahttp://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html> From: mark at dealermats.com> To: aultgc at jorsm.com; nqrithfordatsun at msn.com; boakes at gmail.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; spl310 at hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rare and Appears to be solid, mostly: '63 1500?> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:00:50 -0400> > The 1500 in California is a nice car, but a few things need to be pointed > out. There are a number of hard to get 1500 items. The correct emblems, > long side trim, hubcaps, non vented air filter housing and wooden top bow, > come to mind. These are all missing on this car, there are 2 top frames in > the photo, 1 is the correct frame without the bow, the other is a later > frame that will not work. There are electrical problems throughout the car, > might be positive ground related, might not. The interior is very worn, > with speaker holes cut in the bottom of the doors!> > If you want a unique car, this is one, as a 3 seat 1500. If you want a > correct 3 seat 1500, this is not it. It is far from a true survivor car as > advertised> > Mark > _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne ws From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com Sat Oct 27 11:34:44 2007 From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:34:44 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20071025151443.0232a170@lafn.org> Message-ID: <20071027173434.BYOH4050.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> Just bend it back. That's what I did after a curb incursion some 15 years ago. It's been fine since and I'll be mine was bent more. It was kind of V shaped after that incident. ________________________________ BRIAN HOLLANDS 69 2000 Tampa FL At 11:53 AM 10/25/2007, nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote: >All, > >I was getting my alignment done and noticed that my stearing >centerlink was bent (wicked turns I guess No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Oct 27 11:38:47 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:38:47 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? In-Reply-To: <20071027173434.BYOH4050.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> Message-ID: <8C9E6D75D4A1D73-E68-73CB@mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com> Just curious as to whether it has to be dead-straight? If so then a more exact fix would be to take it to a machine shop to straighten? Linda -----Original Message----- From: Brian Hollands To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:34 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? Just bend it back. That's what I did after a curb incursion some 15 years ago. It's been fine since and I'll be mine was bent more. It was kind of V shaped after that incident. ________________________________ BRIAN HOLLANDS 69 2000 Tampa FL ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com Sat Oct 27 11:48:59 2007 From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:48:59 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? In-Reply-To: <8C9E6D75D4A1D73-E68-73CB@mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20071027174848.THJY3966.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> No it doesnt. You use the threaded end links to compensate for length to a degree as well as to set the toe. If you bend the link you will change its length and thus need to re-set the toe. ________________________________ BRIAN HOLLANDS 69 2000 Tampa FL Just curious as to whether it has to be dead-straight? If so then a more exact fix would be to take it to a machine shop to straighten? Linda No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM From bubwin at mts.net Sat Oct 27 11:49:32 2007 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:49:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? In-Reply-To: <20071027173434.BYOH4050.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> References: <20071027173434.BYOH4050.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> Message-ID: Use a hydraulic press and press it as straight as you can, then spray paint it a light color. Check regularly, if you see cracks in the paint (the dark metal and light paint give good contrast), replace it, it's likely stressed and fatigued. Remember to get the alignment checked for Toe-in, after straightening. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hollands" To: Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? > Just bend it back. That's what I did after a curb incursion some 15 years > ago. It's been fine since and I'll be mine was bent more. It was kind of > V > shaped after that incident. > > ________________________________ > BRIAN HOLLANDS > 69 2000 > Tampa FL > > At 11:53 AM 10/25/2007, nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote: >>All, >> >>I was getting my alignment done and noticed that my stearing >>centerlink was bent (wicked turns I guess > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: > 10/27/2007 > 11:02 AM > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ________________________________________ > > bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Sat Oct 27 12:11:26 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:11:26 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500? Message-ID: In a message dated 10/26/2007 6:01:49 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, boakes at gmail.com writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Datsun-Fairlady-1500-Roadster-Convertible- NO-RES_W0QQitemZ330179043735 The US had 3148 1500 imported from 62 - 65. The first 300 were single carb. This seems to have the later model G series motor with the dual carbs (which for the cold lander's is missing the choke cables). VIN number is indicated as 580, they started production at 175, so this would be a late '63. Interesting comment about shifting in and out of gear and no noises. The 1500 all had non-syncro'd first gear and is a double clutching intrigue to downshift while moving. It is missing the chrome molding that ran front to rear on the 1500's. The ragged top is not from the Fairlady, but they have the frame sitting in the picture at the top. Still a nice example of a Fairlady. Hope it goes to a good home that will keep it in good running shape. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From msedlack at neo.rr.com Sat Oct 27 12:18:07 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:18:07 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? References: <30814831.1193338434259.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <005d01c818c5$b99eb8b0$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Thought I'd jump in on this thread. This is a stout piece of metal, and unless the front end of the car was damaged in an accident, the bend was undoubtedly the result of a wheel impact. That kind of jarring impact could have damaged other parts in the steering train. I'd recommend inspecting ball joints, side rods and ends, idler, and the steering box as well. The cost of a gasket kit for the steering box is a small price compare to the consequences if you loose steering at speed. Since you said the tie-rod ends are good, you've got three options - one, buy a new one from Rallye, without ends for $50. Two, inquire on the list for a good used one off a parts car ( price accordingly relative to new). Three, take it off the car, heat it cherry red at the bend with a oxy/ac rosebud, and bend it back straight, then let it air cool - DO NOT use any liquid to cool. If the bend is near the threaded portion at either end, use options one or two. Wouldn't have to be dead straight, since the rod ends are adjustable. After replacing it, get the alignment and toe-in set. Mark Sedlack ZROC Cuyahoga Falls OH 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? > All, > > I was getting my alignment done and noticed that my stearing centerlink was bent (wicked turns I guess). The balls are in great shape so I figured I'd just fabricate a new centerlink. Natually, I went to a local construction site and made off with some rebar -- I figured that nobody at the new suspension bridge would notice if there was 15" less reinforcement. > > After a little time with a hacksaw I was ready to go. But then my partner in datsun pointed out that rebar isn't the world's strongest material, it wasn't taking my threads, and was pretty rust prone. I suggested plastic for its dampening properties -- he laughed at me and made me feel pretty stupid about the whole thing. > > Now the question is what metal to use? Ideas? 304, 416, 316? Gold? Titanium? Bubble gum? From RoadsterGB at aol.com Sat Oct 27 14:12:16 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:12:16 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] V8 Roadster Message-ID: Hi All Well the V8 is finally home and, as expected, there's a whole lot of work to do. It's 1970 1600 with a 351 Windsor, which sits slightly taller than the 289/302. It also sits too far forward for anything like decent handling, so we're moving it back by around 8 inches, fabricating a new bulkhead and moving the radiator - which is a VW item currently fitted in the trunk! All the hoses are routed down the passenger footwells - I am not joking! But it did run with this set up for a couple of years in the San Diego area. That said, the brakes have been uprated (not sure what with), there's a beefy Ford narrowed rear end that accommodate 6 1/2 inch wheels with a Datsun stud pattern, and all in all it's pretty solid. Thanks for tips on gearboxes to replace the auto - we're sourcing a manual 5-speed that will do the trick. The project will start in earnest after the BRE replica is complete. Should be fun! Pictures to follow. Best from England. Rob _www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) PS If anyone's affected by the California fires we're thinking of you. From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Oct 27 14:23:44 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:23:44 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? In-Reply-To: <8C9E6DB1207D89F-E68-74B6@mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com> References: <20071027173434.BYOH4050.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> <8C9E6DB1207D89F-E68-74B6@mblk-d35.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8C9E6EE6857E22A-C4C-6AA2@MBLK-M21.sysops.aol.com> Hey Bob, What if I don't have a hydraulic press handy?LOL A machine shop could do it right and I assume check for the fatigue cracks or whatever too? Thanks, Linda -----Original Message----- From: Bubba To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:49 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? Use a hydraulic press and press it as straight as you can, then spray paint it a light color. Check regularly, if you see cracks in the paint (the dark metal and light paint give good contrast), replace it, it's likely stressed and fatigued.? ? Remember to get the alignment checked for Toe-in, after straightening.? ? Bob Winslade? 1966-1600 Missy? 1967-1600 Bender? ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hollands" ? To: ? Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:34 PM? Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of?? ? > Just bend it back. That's what I did after a curb incursion some 15 years? > ago. It's been fine since and I'll be mine was bent more. It was kind of > V? > shaped after that incident.? >? > ________________________________? > BRIAN HOLLANDS? > 69 2000? > Tampa FL? >? > At 11:53 AM 10/25/2007, nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote:? >>All,? >>? >>I was getting my alignment done and noticed that my stearing? >>centerlink was bent (wicked turns I guess? >? > No virus found in this outgoing message.? > Checked by AVG Free Edition.? > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: > 10/27/2007? > 11:02 AM? >? ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------? ? > ________________________________________? >? > bubwin at mts.net? >? > Datsun-roadsters mailing list? >? > http://www.team.net/archive? >? > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters? ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com Sat Oct 27 15:12:54 2007 From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:12:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? In-Reply-To: <005d01c818c5$b99eb8b0$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Message-ID: <20071027211243.TXWC4068.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> That's a good point Mark. It's worth noting that the spindle axles on the Roadster front suspension, while not a notorious failure point, are prone to cracking over time. These ought to be checked during a front suspension overhaul or after any heavy hit. If this center link that started this whole thread is only slightly bent, well mine has been that way for years... ________________________________ BRIAN HOLLANDS 69 2000 Tampa FL -----Original Message----- Thought I'd jump in on this thread. This is a stout piece of metal, and unless the front end of the car was damaged in an accident, the bend was undoubtedly the result of a wheel impact. That kind of jarring impact could have damaged other parts in the steering train. I'd recommend inspecting ball joints, side rods and ends, idler, and the steering box as well. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM From andycost at embarqmail.com Sat Oct 27 16:16:47 2007 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:16:47 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? In-Reply-To: <20071027211243.TXWC4068.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> Message-ID: The important part is that both ends are the same height. If one is lower then you will have some nasty stuff going on with the handling. If both ends are the same height then the center link could be pretzel shaped and still work fine. Andy From johnwightman at shaw.ca Sun Oct 28 09:09:32 2007 From: johnwightman at shaw.ca (john wightman) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:09:32 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] ka24 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37760DE4-53BD-4289-A82D-8A5CCCBD6938@shaw.ca> Der!!... everybody knows that... ;-) On 26-Oct-07, at 8:04 PM, Andy Cost wrote: > Nissan usually uses an R for supercharger. It would be a KA24DER > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+andycost=embarqmail.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces > +andycost=embarqmail.com at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of RacerY at comcast.net > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 2:54 PM > To: roadster list > Subject: [Roadsters] ka24 > > > "the supercharged KA24DE" > > Is that a KA24DES, then? > > heh heh... > Toby From RoadsterGB at aol.com Sun Oct 28 12:12:14 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 15:12:14 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] This month's fairlady.org 'Image of the Month' Message-ID: A coming together of a Datsun racer and a soon-to-be Datsun racer at Willow Springs in 1966 - not the greatest quality photo but it captures one of those nervy racing moments ... _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Nov2007.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Nov2007.htm) Cheers. Rob _www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) From alvingogi at hotmail.com Sun Oct 28 14:37:02 2007 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:37:02 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of? In-Reply-To: References: <20071027211243.TXWC4068.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B> Message-ID: Here's a pic of my new tie-rod along with my new front end: http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2984644800102308741MuJKHz Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: andycost at embarqmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:16:47 -0500> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bent center link - what metal to fabricate a replacement out of?> > The important part is that both ends are the same height. If one is lower> then you will have some nasty stuff going on with the handling. If both> ends are the same height then the center link could be pretzel shaped and> still work fine.> > Andy _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From sandhoff at csus.edu Sun Oct 28 22:44:22 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] [OT] More California Smogcheck requirements Message-ID: Off-topic Affects only California (at present) Doesn't affect the Roadsters Hit now if you don't care It appears that California is after 1976-1995 cars again, with the new 'low pressure fuel evaporative test'. Basically, the smog dude takes a pair of pliers to the hose leading to the charcoal canister, and puts about a half-PSI pressure on the tank. If it doesn't hold pressure, you fail the test. Or go to YouTube and search on 'LPFET'. Testing appears to start 01-Nov-07. Estimated to add $7.50 to the cost of a test. If I read the report correctly, estimated fail rate of 30% and net consumer repair cost of $68 million over the next 5 years. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From mark at dealermats.com Mon Oct 29 03:35:11 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 06:35:11 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 63 1500 on Ebay writeup is BS - guy has owned the car for 2 weeks. Message-ID: <002401c81a17$624729a0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> I just got a message from the previous owner of the 1500 that is on Ebay with the 1 owner write up etc. That "63" 3-seater on Ebay with the black interior is the car that I just sold to this guy 2 weeks ago for $2700. I'm just sick about it. The buyer told him me wanted to love it, give it a good home and keep the car forever. All that text in the description about family and knowing the history is pure BS Mark From ruth at earlydatsun.com Mon Oct 29 03:45:36 2007 From: ruth at earlydatsun.com (Ruth) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:45:36 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] 63 1500 on Ebay writeup is BS - guy has owned the car for 2 weeks. In-Reply-To: <002401c81a17$624729a0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> References: <002401c81a17$624729a0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: Hmmmmm... Description: (revised). Since this car was purchased brand new in late 1962, going on 46 years ago, someone in my family has wanted this car... Over the last nearly 1/2-century various members of my family, friends and acquaintances have wanted this car, including me. The complete history is known on this car. I grew up loving this car, as I was born roughly the same year it was made. It's with great emotion that I let this car go to someone else...please take care of it. Coulda sworn that said "has owned this car" last time I looked. You could be onto something there, Mark. Not a very honourable seller, by the sound of it. On 29/10/2007, at 8:35 PM, Mark Dent wrote: > I just got a message from the previous owner of the 1500 that is on > Ebay with > the 1 owner write up etc. > > > That "63" 3-seater on Ebay with the black interior is the car that > I just sold > to this guy 2 weeks ago for $2700. I'm just sick about it. The > buyer told > him me wanted to love it, give it a good home and keep the car > forever. All > that text in the description about family and knowing the history > is pure BS > > > Mark > ________________________________________ > > ruth at earlydatsun.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Brian.Rourke at hp.com Mon Oct 29 03:57:27 2007 From: Brian.Rourke at hp.com (Rourke, Brian) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:57:27 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun 1600 in the news. Message-ID: This is not something that we much of anymore. http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2007/10/29/2464_ntsport.html Cheers all. From datrock at centurytel.net Mon Oct 29 06:22:20 2007 From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:22:20 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 63 1500 on Ebay writeup is BS - guy has owned the car for 2 weeks. In-Reply-To: <002401c81a17$624729a0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> References: <002401c81a17$624729a0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <4725DE8C.50609@centurytel.net> WOW, I believe it, all of this negative BS talk is from someone who recently posted in thier non-roadster ebay auctions a comment about, not dealing with anymore of the BS in the Roadster community. Mark...does it ever end... turn the frikkin channel if you dont like it. I'm sure you told the PO of your 320 that you were going to get pissed off and sell it because the roadster people are mean, at least that was my impression from the way you worded your auction. Feel free to comment... Bill From mark at dealermats.com Mon Oct 29 06:03:46 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:03:46 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 63 1500 on Ebay writeup is BS - guy has owned the car for 2 weeks. References: <002401c81a17$624729a0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <4725DE8C.50609@centurytel.net> Message-ID: <000601c81a2c$24464f90$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Bill, When there is an obviously false write up on Ebay, I do feel the need to comment. The seller is representing a car as a family heirloom, that he bought 2 weeks ago for $2700. If you look at the license plate, the car was just registered in October. The previous owner sent me photos of the car in his garage, it was in the background of photos of parts he was selling as well. If you would like his name, feel free to ask. I sold the truck after owning it for a few years because I did not need it anymore, as stated in the auction. I am selling the Zetec Roadster because of the motor swap/ original BS that has gone on on other forums, want to buy it? I will keep the 64 1500. I think mis-representing a car this badly is wrong, why are you so pissed at it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cole" To: "Mark Dent" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 63 1500 on Ebay writeup is BS - guy has owned the car for 2 weeks. > WOW, I believe it, all of this negative BS talk is from someone who > recently posted in thier non-roadster ebay auctions a comment about, not > dealing with anymore of the BS in the Roadster community. Mark...does it > ever end... turn the frikkin channel if you dont like it. I'm sure you > told the PO of your 320 that you were going to get pissed off and sell it > because the roadster people are mean, at least that was my impression from > the way you worded your auction. Feel free to comment... Bill From chrisca66 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 29 08:52:35 2007 From: chrisca66 at yahoo.com (Chris Casey) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:52:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] California fires In-Reply-To: <471FEFCF.2050702@comcast.net> Message-ID: <234679.16275.qm@web55506.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Monday, October 22, 4:20 am... I awoke to the sounds of the block behind us in flames. We had no warning... we flew out of the house in less than five minutes. The street behind us was in falmes, the cul-d-sac to the north was in flames, the hill to the west was in flames. I had to leave the roadster behind. I just couldn't see driving a convertable when it was raining flaming embers! When I talked the police into escorting me back into our neighborhood on Tuesday to look for our cat "Archie" I found our house still there. We lost 4 houses on our street, 11 on the street behind us, and 24 on the block behind that (on Lankenshire... where president Bush took his stroll through the rubble). The house is pretty smokey and the garage is covered in sute and ash, including the roadster. But at least is is still there! All in all, a very close call. Chris Casey 66' 1600 Rancho Bernardo San Diego. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From j.f at cox.net Mon Oct 29 09:06:52 2007 From: j.f at cox.net (John Friederich) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:06:52 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] California fires References: <234679.16275.qm@web55506.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004101c81a45$b9d97140$7d00a8c0@niki> Please tell me the cat was found in good health... John F LV, NV '69 2000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Casey" To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] California fires > Monday, October 22, 4:20 am... > > I awoke to the sounds of the block behind us in flames. > We had no warning... we flew out of the house in less than five minutes. > The street behind us was in falmes, the cul-d-sac to the north was in flames, the hill to the west was in flames. I had to leave the roadster behind. I just couldn't see driving a convertable when it was raining flaming embers! > > When I talked the police into escorting me back into our neighborhood on Tuesday to look for our cat "Archie" I found our house still there. We lost 4 houses on our street, 11 on the street behind us, and 24 on the block behind that (on Lankenshire... where president Bush took his stroll through the rubble). > > The house is pretty smokey and the garage is covered in sute and ash, including the roadster. But at least is is still there! > > All in all, a very close call. > > Chris Casey > 66' 1600 > Rancho Bernardo > San Diego. > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > ________________________________________ > > j.f at cox.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From chrisca66 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 29 09:20:56 2007 From: chrisca66 at yahoo.com (Chris Casey) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] California fires In-Reply-To: <004101c81a45$b9d97140$7d00a8c0@niki> Message-ID: <163609.67951.qm@web55501.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Yes - Archie was fine... we now have little black paw prints all over the house. John Friederich wrote: Please tell me the cat was found in good health... John F LV, NV '69 2000 Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 29 09:33:20 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] California fires In-Reply-To: <234679.16275.qm@web55506.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <549794.68083.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thank goodness you and yours - including Archie the cat and your Roadster - are all safe and sound, Chris! My wife and I were sweating out the news from the fire zones because we have several family members down there, in Fallbrook and in the Oceanside/Carlsbad/Vista/Escondido area. All safe and with homes intact, happy to say. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 Chris Casey wrote: Monday, October 22, 4:20 am... I awoke to the sounds of the block behind us in flames. We had no warning... we flew out of the house in less than five minutes. The street behind us was in flames, the cul-d-sac to the north was in flames, the hill to the west was in flames. I had to leave the roadster behind. I just couldn't see driving a convertible when it was raining flaming embers! When I talked the police into escorting me back into our neighborhood on Tuesday to look for our cat "Archie" I found our house still there. We lost 4 houses on our street, 11 on the street behind us, and 24 on the block behind that (on Lankenshire... where president Bush took his stroll through the rubble). The house is pretty smoky and the garage is covered in soot and ash, including the roadster. But at least is is still there! All in all, a very close call. Chris Casey 66' 1600 Rancho Bernardo San Diego. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ________________________________________ gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sasher at olympiawest.com Mon Oct 29 10:10:17 2007 From: sasher at olympiawest.com (Seth Asher) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:10:17 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie Message-ID: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> People seem not to read the entire ebay post, combined with not understanding the rules of ebay. Below user Ruth comments that the description said something different before, but descriptions can't be changed once there are bids, so it couldn't have said something different last time she looked. Regarding user Mark Dent's comment, the description doesn't say anything refutable about family -- it says his family, friends and acquaintances have wanted this model car. Why can't he know the history regardless of how long he's owned the car? From: Ruth ...various members of my family, friends and acquaintances have wanted this car >Coulda sworn that said "has owned this car" last time I looked. From: "Mark Dent" > that text in the description about family and knowing the history > is pure BS From bradlustig at earthlink.net Mon Oct 29 10:25:54 2007 From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:25:54 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie In-Reply-To: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <472617A2.3070303@earthlink.net> There a keywords scattered throughout that make it appear this seller is selling a car owned for quite a while. I know the first time I read, I thought this was a beloved car that he couldn't bear to sell. After knowing the truth and rereading it, I can see that the seller is being very tricky, if not deceitful. Especially in the first few sentences about "this car". Brad Lustig Mt Pleasant, SC Seth Asher wrote: People seem not to read the entire ebay post, combined with not understanding the rules of ebay. Below user Ruth comments that the description said something different before, but descriptions can't be changed once there are bids, so it couldn't have said something different last time she looked. Regarding user Mark Dent's comment, the description doesn't say anything refutable about family -- it says his family, friends and acquaintances have wanted this model car. Why can't he know the history regardless of how long he's owned the car? From: Ruth ...various members of my family, friends and acquaintances have wanted this car Coulda sworn that said "has owned this car" last time I looked. From: "Mark Dent" that text in the description about family and knowing the history is pure BS From solex675 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 29 11:32:56 2007 From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:32:56 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie In-Reply-To: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: I went back and read the description and will admit that it does somewhat mislead. I guess that Mark Dent did contact him to address the issue and he has posted an update that clarifies that the car is not an heirloom nor has it been in his family since it was new. I think that instead of saying "someone in my family has always wanted this car" should have been "someone in my family has always wanted a car like this". Bottom line is that the way the description reads will give the impression that the car has been in the family since it was new and that is not the case. But since he did clarify the issue I can say now that anyone who bids on the car is now informed. My .02 Andrew Murphy 1966 1600 _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 29 13:26:26 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:26:26 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] adjust dizzy References: Message-ID: <000201c81a69$fc972030$800101df@Garage.local> after seeming to run just fine a few weeks, my roadster (early 67 1600) seems suddenly to be way off. i say this because when starting it is hard to get going, and then idles very, very roughly, with ocasional backfires through the carbs. note: i'm still in the process of assembly, and don't have the choke cables hooked up yet. but in the last two months i've been "exercising" it on a regular basis, and it appeared to be running just fine. it has a philips screw on the base, and this was set full advance. i set it to full retard, and that helped noticably, but i'm still not there. before i did this, it would just barely run, and feathering the accelerator helped, but only to keep it running. it didn't get and acceleration. now i get a little acceleration. i looked at this diagram, http://www.311s.org/tech/parts/03Electrical.pdf but i am still confused as to how to rotate the distributor. or is there something else amiss that i am overlooking? From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon Oct 29 14:19:46 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:19:46 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] adjust dizzy In-Reply-To: <000201c81a69$fc972030$800101df@Garage.local> Message-ID: <4725EC02.11891.108DE84@localhost> > after seeming to run just fine a few weeks, my roadster (early 67 1600) > seems suddenly to be way off. > > it has a philips screw on the base, and this was set full advance. i set it > to full retard, and that helped noticably, but i'm still not there. Pop the cap and check the point gap. It sounds like the gap has drifted far from what it should be. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From mark at dealermats.com Mon Oct 29 14:32:35 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:32:35 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <003801c81a73$38dd5650$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> If you look it says (revised) right on the auction page. It did say it was in his family from new originally ----- Original Message ----- Below user Ruth comments that the > description said something different before, but descriptions can't be > changed once there are bids, so it couldn't have said something > different last time she looked. From mark at dealermats.com Mon Oct 29 14:34:21 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:34:21 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <003f01c81a73$785f1e80$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> I have not contacted him. ----- Original Message ----- I guess that Mark Dent did contact him to address the issue From ruth at earlydatsun.com Mon Oct 29 13:00:58 2007 From: ruth at earlydatsun.com (Ruth) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:00:58 +1000 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie In-Reply-To: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <8082001B-B802-4137-AC30-E9AA952D8D2F@earlydatsun.com> Fair enough. In that case, on my first reading of the description I was under the impression that the car had been in his family since new. Admit it, that's how it reads. Unless it is brought to your attention. He has deliberately worded the description so as to make it seem that he has more of a history with this particular car than he actually has. That's deceptive, in my book, even if he is technically correct. And nowhere does it say "this model car" as you claim. From the auction wording: Since this car was purchased brand new in late 1962, going on 46 years ago, someone in my family has wanted this car... Over the last nearly 1/2-century various members of my family, friends and acquaintances have wanted this car, including me. The complete history is known on this car. I grew up loving this car, It repeatedly says "this car". I and anyone with a functional comprehension of the English language would take this to read "this particular car" NOT "this model of car". The impression gained from the description is that he personally knows the history, not that he has been told it. You're right, it doesn't say anything refutable about family. You seem to have read the auction posting fairly carefully. You didn't write it, did you??? On 30/10/2007, at 3:10 AM, Seth Asher wrote: > People seem not to read the entire ebay post, combined with not > understanding the rules of ebay. Below user Ruth comments that the > description said something different before, but descriptions can't be > changed once there are bids, so it couldn't have said something > different last time she looked. > > Regarding user Mark Dent's comment, the description doesn't say > anything > refutable about family -- it says his family, friends and > acquaintances > have wanted this model car. Why can't he know the history > regardless of > how long he's owned the car? > > > From: Ruth > ...various members of my family, friends and acquaintances have wanted > this car >> Coulda sworn that said "has owned this car" last time I looked. > > From: "Mark Dent" >> that text in the description about family and knowing the history >> is pure BS > ________________________________________ > > ruth at earlydatsun.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sasher at olympiawest.com Mon Oct 29 14:51:31 2007 From: sasher at olympiawest.com (Seth Asher) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:51:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie In-Reply-To: <003801c81a73$38dd5650$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> <003801c81a73$38dd5650$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492ED6@omgserver3.omg.local> http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/revise-item.html#auction_style When a user wants to add or change information to a listing once there are bids, the only possibility for the user is to add to the description which appears with a timestamp under the listing. In the grid in the link, ynder Time Before the listing ends: More than 12 hours, Did the listing receive bids? Yes. What you can revise: ...you can only add to the item description or add a the second category. It says "revised" on top of an auction page if there are timestamped adds to the description. Not trying to start a feud, but the evidence shows you are clearly wrong. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Dent [mailto:mark at dealermats.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 2:33 PM To: Seth Asher; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie If you look it says (revised) right on the auction page. It did say it was in his family from new originally ----- Original Message ----- Below user Ruth comments that the > description said something different before, but descriptions can't be > changed once there are bids, so it couldn't have said something > different last time she looked. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM From mark at dealermats.com Mon Oct 29 16:35:36 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:35:36 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> <003801c81a73$38dd5650$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492ED6@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <002501c81a84$6843d3e0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> I was under the impression you could revise a description, obviously the rules changed. I do have an issue withe the following statements in the description coming from someone that has owned the car for 2 weeks: If a new driver drives the car, he or she might say the car pulls slightly sometimes to the left or right when you brake (not every newbie, just some)...I drive the car enough such that I don't notice this if it occurs, as I must compensate/anticipate for it subconciously if these newbies are indeed correct. The car is very solid and is used at least once a week, and is very reliable. The battery doesn't have to be disconnected so it doesn't drain it, even if it stays unused for weeks The guy is repesenting the car as an original 46 year old car, acting like he has known it all of his life. This car has all of the hard to find 1500 parts missing, the wrong top and frame, and electrical issues stemming from the fact that it is a positive ground car that has been wired up backwards. I know this because I have had 1500's for a long time. All years, all models, all varations. I know what happens when you do something wrong with them, I know the side trim is impossible to get, I know the emblems are $200 each, I know people have bought whole cars just for the hub caps. When the buyer of this car finds out he paid too much for this paticular 1500 it give us all a bad name with him. Mark From mark at dealermats.com Mon Oct 29 16:52:05 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:52:05 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500, Seth is the seller, that makes a difference References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> <003801c81a73$38dd5650$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492ED6@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <003e01c81a86$b58807f0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Seth, The fact that you are the seller of the car makes all of your comments questionable. Your original craigslist ad said ""It is a family heirloom with which I must part...that generates emotion for me, but it must be done. I hope it goes to a good home" So is it a family heirloom or a car you bought 2 weeks ago for $2700? You say family heirloom in your ads, well as you said: Not trying to start a feud, but the evidence shows you are clearly wrong. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Asher" To: "Mark Dent" ; Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 5:51 PM Subject: RE: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/revise-item.html#auction_style When a user wants to add or change information to a listing once there are bids, the only possibility for the user is to add to the description which appears with a timestamp under the listing. In the grid in the link, ynder Time Before the listing ends: More than 12 hours, Did the listing receive bids? Yes. What you can revise: ...you can only add to the item description or add a the second category. It says "revised" on top of an auction page if there are timestamped adds to the description. Not trying to start a feud, but the evidence shows you are clearly wrong. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Dent [mailto:mark at dealermats.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 2:33 PM To: Seth Asher; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie If you look it says (revised) right on the auction page. It did say it was in his family from new originally ----- Original Message ----- Below user Ruth comments that the > description said something different before, but descriptions can't be > changed once there are bids, so it couldn't have said something > different last time she looked. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM From sasher at olympiawest.com Mon Oct 29 16:57:14 2007 From: sasher at olympiawest.com (Seth Asher) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:57:14 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie In-Reply-To: <002501c81a84$6843d3e0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> <003801c81a73$38dd5650$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492ED6@omgserver3.omg.local> <002501c81a84$6843d3e0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492F21@omgserver3.omg.local> >obviously the rules changed .....Did they? Just because you were under the impression of something, doesn't mean it's changed. Your impression about the ebay rules was wrong. The rules have been this way for at least 5 years. Were you very active on ebay more than 5 years ago compared to your activity level these days? :-) >acting like he has known it all of his life. ......Sounds like you are really reading in to it a whole lot. And It clearly has explanations on the bottom indicating that's not the case. Anyone bidding would read the entire description. >When the buyer of this car finds out he paid too much for this paticular 1500 it give us all a bad name with him. ......Sounds like you are trying to get the car at a lower price for yourself. >Your original craigslist ad said ""It is a family heirloom with which I must part...that ......I never posted a craigslist ad. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Dent [mailto:mark at dealermats.com] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:36 PM To: Seth Asher; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie I was under the impression you could revise a description, obviously the rules changed. I do have an issue withe the following statements in the description coming from someone that has owned the car for 2 weeks: If a new driver drives the car, he or she might say the car pulls slightly sometimes to the left or right when you brake (not every newbie, just some)...I drive the car enough such that I don't notice this if it occurs, as I must compensate/anticipate for it subconciously if these newbies are indeed correct. The car is very solid and is used at least once a week, and is very reliable. The battery doesn't have to be disconnected so it doesn't drain it, even if it stays unused for weeks The guy is repesenting the car as an original 46 year old car, acting like he has known it all of his life. This car has all of the hard to find 1500 parts missing, the wrong top and frame, and electrical issues stemming from the fact that it is a positive ground car that has been wired up backwards. I know this because I have had 1500's for a long time. All years, all models, all varations. I know what happens when you do something wrong with them, I know the side trim is impossible to get, I know the emblems are $200 each, I know people have bought whole cars just for the hub caps. When the buyer of this car finds out he paid too much for this paticular 1500 it give us all a bad name with him. Mark No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM From mark at dealermats.com Mon Oct 29 17:53:51 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:53:51 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] '63 1500, Seth is the seller, that makes a difference References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> <003801c81a73$38dd5650$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492ED6@omgserver3.omg.local> <003e01c81a86$b58807f0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492F22@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <000901c81a8f$56d08210$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> You think I'm the seller now do you. >From the sellers about me page (before you delete it) Welcome! I am not in the ebay trading business. But, I do sell things on ebay once in a while, and buy things here and there. I have a company that does mortgages, and also creates business loans and construction loans. We do a fair amount of commercial mortgages as well. Our rates are about 1/4% lower than a bank. Favorite Links CNN The University of Pennsylvania!! The Wharton School CNBC Slate.com >From the company page your email address is linked to Seth worked at the top-tier Investment Bank, Goldman Sachs, on Wall Street in New York, and operated a successful real estate investment and holding company for a number of years before becoming a mortgage broker. He is an honors graduate of The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania and did his graduate studies at Harvard University Comments? Just be a man and admit it Mark From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Oct 29 18:03:12 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:03:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] CEASE ALREADY!! PLEASE!! '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie In-Reply-To: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492F21@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <003001c81a90$a58f64b0$6501a8c0@xp> I think it's safe to say we've heard enough on this from both sides and need no further online discussion. Okay? Thanks for listening. Pete From mark at dealermats.com Mon Oct 29 17:59:50 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:59:50 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Seth, you have been caught References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> <003801c81a73$38dd5650$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492ED6@omgserver3.omg.local> <003e01c81a86$b58807f0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492F22@omgserver3.omg.local> <001a01c81a8b$147cd200$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492F38@omgserver3.omg.local> Message-ID: <002401c81a90$2d321990$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> See what a few clicks on the computer can do? You accuse me of all kinds of things, but it all points to you. My stoop does not allow dis-honest people. You are not welcome. ----- Original Message ----- Either way, you have a great deal of time on your hands, and after this last post, I am not going to continue this exchange with you since I do not share your stoop. From mark at dealermats.com Mon Oct 29 18:01:26 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:01:26 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] CEASE ALREADY!! PLEASE!! '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie References: <003001c81a90$a58f64b0$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <003001c81a90$66067090$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Pete, If he accuses me of lying I will defend myself. I have proven what kind of person he is, so it is over now Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" To: Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:03 PM Subject: [Roadsters] CEASE ALREADY!! PLEASE!! '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie >I think it's safe to say we've heard enough on this from both sides and >need > no further online discussion. > > Okay? Thanks for listening. > > Pete > ________________________________________ > > mark at dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at jorsm.com Mon Oct 29 19:04:10 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:04:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Nasty Oil Leak Message-ID: <009d01c81a99$2a2fbff0$20a0aa42@gaxp1> I replaced the carburetors on a '69 2000 this weekend. The good news is the car now runs great, but it has an oil leak at the joint between the front of the cylinder head and the top of the timing case -- about where the little 6mm stud should come through the head. On this car, the stud and nut combo has been replaced with a 6 mm hex head cap screw, and I believe the threads in the timing case are compromised. At any rate, the leak is a steady drip which creates a mist of oil droplets in the air stream of the fan when the engine is run at ~2500 rpm. Quite a mess. There is no oil gallery in that area of the block or head, so the leak has to be driven by whatever pressure is created inside the block. I wouldn't have thought there was a steady film of oil draining down the inside of the timing case wall, but there must be. The engine is fresh, and there is no evidence of excessive blow-by -- no inordinate flow out the cam cover vent to the air cleaner. In fact, the inside of the air cleaner had no oil in it, unlike my own car which always seems to accumulate some oil along the bottom seal of the air cleaner. Does anyone know of a way to repair such a leak without pulling the head and timing case cover? I am not necessarily looking for an elegant solution here. I have thought of trying to pull the cap screw, clean out the threads in the timing case, and install a stud with a goodly amount of Loctite on the threads, but I don't think there is enough overhead clearance to drop something with the proper length into the bolt hole. And, I am ont all that confident in my ability to clean out the threads well enough to ensure the Loctite binds. The other thought I had was to clean the area well, and try a JBWeld external "patch". Not elegant, but it wouldn't have to resist much pressure, and it would be better than the hours of work tearing things down to do the job properly right now. Any thoughts from the group? Gary Ault '66 1600/U20 since 1971 (219) 322-1923 (Central time) From fairlady66 at gmail.com Mon Oct 29 19:56:45 2007 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:56:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] CEASE ALREADY!! PLEASE!! '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie In-Reply-To: <003001c81a90$66067090$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> References: <003001c81a90$a58f64b0$6501a8c0@xp> <003001c81a90$66067090$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: I for one would rather have you defend yourself with emails directly to your opponent. That way we do not have to do your referring. It is not our fight, though is has been interesting, now it is becoming child like. Please either drop it and go away satisfied with your results or deal directly with each other. I for one strongly believe in defending oneself, with a reasonable defense. But when that defense becomes defencive, it usually means that someone was caught with their pants down and does not want to admit it. So, defend yourself, but don't be defencive or it proves the other persons point. If you are guilty be honorable and admit it. Thank you for allowing us to be your spectators, not I will gladly give my seat to another that may wish to partake. Chris On 10/29/07, Mark Dent wrote: > > Pete, > > If he accuses me of lying I will defend myself. I have proven what kind > of > person he is, so it is over now > > Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:03 PM > Subject: [Roadsters] CEASE ALREADY!! PLEASE!! '63 1500 Description > Comments > from Newbie > > > >I think it's safe to say we've heard enough on this from both sides and > >need > > no further online discussion. > > > > Okay? Thanks for listening. > > > > Pete > > ________________________________________ > > > > mark at dealermats.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > > fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one. From aultgc at jorsm.com Mon Oct 29 19:58:38 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:58:38 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] The Other Hemmings Article Message-ID: <00b001c81aa0$c6005820$20a0aa42@gaxp1> Everyone appropriately went ga-ga over the article in Hemmings "Sports and Exotic Car" about Tom Drake's '67 1600, but do you all remember that Tim Miner and his red '67-1/2 were featured in Issue #6 (October 2005) in a "shootout: with an MGB? I had forgotten the article. Beautiful car, Tim. And, you're an old guy like me! Gary Ault From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Oct 29 20:01:52 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:01:52 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] adjust dizzy References: <4725EC02.11891.108DE84@localhost> Message-ID: <000f01c81aa1$79d49190$800101df@Garage.local> OK. that was too easy. OK. so maybe it wasn't really up to full power before. had a couple of good suggestions, all of which included rotating the engine by hand. i'm way too lazy to fight all that compression, so i pulled the plugs. oh. you mean they are ALL supposed to have a GAP???? cylinder #3 spark plug had no gap. yeah. none at all. funny how hard it is to run an engine on 3 cylinders . . . and yes, tomorrow i'm buying new spark plugs, too!!!! sad thing is i can't go for a test drive until tomorrow because i haven't finished hooking up the lights yet :-( From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon Oct 29 21:10:59 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Nasty Oil Leak In-Reply-To: <009d01c81a99$2a2fbff0$20a0aa42@gaxp1> References: <009d01c81a99$2a2fbff0$20a0aa42@gaxp1> Message-ID: > ...the car now runs great, but it has an oil leak at the joint between > the front of the cylinder head and the top of the timing case... > > There is no oil gallery in that area of the block or head, so the leak > has to be driven by whatever pressure is created inside the block. The chain is constantly slinging oil in there, so there's a constant bath of oil all over in there. If there's the slightest gasket failure, the oil will just seep right out. > Does anyone know of a way to repair such a leak...? Ummm, duct tape? Kidding! It won't stick thru the oil. :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon Oct 29 21:16:12 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] adjust dizzy In-Reply-To: <000f01c81aa1$79d49190$800101df@Garage.local> References: <4725EC02.11891.108DE84@localhost> <000f01c81aa1$79d49190$800101df@Garage.local> Message-ID: > cylinder #3 spark plug had no gap. yeah. none at all. Hmmmm... the question now is where the gap went, since things were running fine a few weeks ago. Only thing I can think of is that the piston kissed the plug. But that would be a very bad thing, with very bad reasons... You may want to explore a bit more, and be sure you have the clearances in there you're expecting... > funny how hard it is to run an engine on 3 cylinders . . . My first Roadster came that way. Ran okayish but sluggish. Turned out the entire side of a piston had been melted off. Not pretty once I tore it down... -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From d-solomon at comcast.net Mon Oct 29 21:45:11 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:45:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] CEASE ALREADY!! PLEASE!! '63 1500 Description Comments from Newbie In-Reply-To: References: <003001c81a90$a58f64b0$6501a8c0@xp> <003001c81a90$66067090$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <4726B6D7.8020802@comcast.net> I'm baffled by this idea: (quoted from below) "But when that defense becomes defencive, it usually means that someone was caught with their pants down and does not want to admit it. So, defend yourself, but don't be defencive or it proves the other persons point." I don't get that at all. Even if it were spelled correctly, it still makes no sense to me. Isn't a "defense", by definition, "defensive"? It seems to me that what we've seen here is a classic case of misrepresentation from a seller trying to inflate the bids on his item. This same person then tries to "defend" himself on the list, all the while pretending he is defending someone else. That's twice he has misrepresented himself, in only two dealings with him. That's a bad average, if you ask me. And so this thread has served a useful purpose in my estimation, of rooting-out and exposing a fraud, who would otherwise prey on the unsuspecting members of this forum. Just my opinion, of course. Dan Chris & Christy Breyer wrote: > I for one would rather have you defend yourself with emails directly to your > opponent. That way we do not have to do your referring. It is not our > fight, though is has been interesting, now it is becoming child like. > Please either drop it and go away satisfied with your results or deal > directly with each other. I for one strongly believe in defending oneself, > with a reasonable defense. But when that defense becomes defencive, it > usually means that someone was caught with their pants down and does not > want to admit it. So, defend yourself, but don't be defencive or it proves > the other persons point. If you are guilty be honorable and admit it. > > Thank you for allowing us to be your spectators, not I will gladly give my > seat to another that may wish to partake. > > Chris > > > On 10/29/07, Mark Dent wrote: > >> Pete, >> >> If he accuses me of lying I will defend myself. I have proven what kind >> of >> person he is, so it is over now >> >> Mark >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pete Peters" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:03 PM >> Subject: [Roadsters] CEASE ALREADY!! PLEASE!! '63 1500 Description >> Comments >> from Newbie >> >> >> >>> I think it's safe to say we've heard enough on this from both sides and >>> need >>> no further online discussion. >>> >>> Okay? Thanks for listening. >>> >>> Pete >>> ________________________________________ >>> >>> mark at dealermats.com >>> >>> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >>> >> ________________________________________ >> >> fairlady66 at gmail.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tminerpcav at aol.com Mon Oct 29 22:20:43 2007 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:20:43 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Seth, you have been caught In-Reply-To: <002401c81a90$2d321990$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> References: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A013D749E@omgserver3.omg.local> <003801c81a73$38dd5650$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492ED6@omgserver3.omg.local> <003e01c81a86$b58807f0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492F22@omgserver3.omg.local> <001a01c81a8b$147cd200$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A01492F38@omgserver3.omg.local> <002401c81a90$2d321990$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <8C9E8CBC133C118-1408-A549@WEBMAIL-MC18.sysops.aol.com> Mark, You should be more forgiving.? This Seth guy can't help himself.? HE'S A MORTGAGE GUY for Christ's sake! Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: Mark Dent To: Seth Asher ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 5:59 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Seth, you have been caught See what a few clicks on the computer can do? You accuse me of all kinds of things, but it all points to you.? My stoop does not allow dis-honest people. You are not welcome.? ? ----- Original Message ----- ? Either way, you have a great deal of time on your hands, and after this last post, I am not going to continue this exchange with you since I do not share your stoop.? ________________________________________ tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From tminerpcav at aol.com Mon Oct 29 22:23:28 2007 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:23:28 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] The Other Hemmings Article In-Reply-To: <00b001c81aa0$c6005820$20a0aa42@gaxp1> References: <00b001c81aa0$c6005820$20a0aa42@gaxp1> Message-ID: <8C9E8CC23235EE4-1408-A556@WEBMAIL-MC18.sysops.aol.com> OLD!? I'm only 29, I just look 55. Tim ---- Original Message ---- From: Gary and Cindy Ault To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 7:58 pm Subject: [Roadsters] The Other Hemmings Article Everyone appropriately went ga-ga over the article in Hemmings "Sports and Exotic Car" about Tom Drake's '67 1600, but do you all remember that Tim Miner and his red '67-1/2 were featured in Issue #6 (October 2005) in a "shootout: with an MGB? I had forgotten the article. Beautiful car, Tim. And, you're an old guy like me! Gary Ault ________________________________________ tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From tom at datsun2000.com Tue Oct 30 01:29:31 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:29:31 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Nasty Oil Leak In-Reply-To: <009d01c81a99$2a2fbff0$20a0aa42@gaxp1> Message-ID: Gary, Did you, or somebody, happen to remove the timing cover by chance? It is hard to seal the head gasket to the timing cover once you remove the timing chain cover. I had the same problem after I changed my upper chain and ended up removing the head to replace the head gasket before I succeeded in correcting the problem. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Gary and Cindy Ault Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 7:04 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Cc: Herb Petty; Robert Norton Subject: [Roadsters] Nasty Oil Leak I replaced the carburetors on a '69 2000 this weekend. The good news is the car now runs great, but it has an oil leak at the joint between the front of the cylinder head and the top of the timing case -- about where the little 6mm stud should come through the head. On this car, the stud and nut combo has been replaced with a 6 mm hex head cap screw, and I believe the threads in the timing case are compromised. At any rate, the leak is a steady drip which creates a mist of oil droplets in the air stream of the fan when the engine is run at ~2500 rpm. Quite a mess. There is no oil gallery in that area of the block or head, so the leak has to be driven by whatever pressure is created inside the block. I wouldn't have thought there was a steady film of oil draining down the inside of the timing case wall, but there must be. The engine is fresh, and there is no evidence of excessive blow-by -- no inordinate flow out the cam cover vent to the air cleaner. In fact, the inside of the air cleaner had no oil in it, unlike my own car which always seems to accumulate some oil along the bottom seal of the air cleaner. Does anyone know of a way to repair such a leak without pulling the head and timing case cover? I am not necessarily looking for an elegant solution here. I have thought of trying to pull the cap screw, clean out the threads in the timing case, and install a stud with a goodly amount of Loctite on the threads, but I don't think there is enough overhead clearance to drop something with the proper length into the bolt hole. And, I am ont all that confident in my ability to clean out the threads well enough to ensure the Loctite binds. The other thought I had was to clean the area well, and try a JBWeld external "patch". Not elegant, but it wouldn't have to resist much pressure, and it would be better than the hours of work tearing things down to do the job properly right now. Any thoughts from the group? Gary Ault '66 1600/U20 since 1971 (219) 322-1923 (Central time) ________________________________________ tom at datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Tue Oct 30 10:54:06 2007 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:54:06 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] re 1963 rdster on ebay hubbub Message-ID: <000c01c81b1d$de13cbe0$0e3baa4c@owner4d7e0adce> I'm the guy who sold this car a few weeks ago.(don't bother to try and contact me with questions about the car--it's not my job). Later on I sold a few leftover parts I'd been dragging around for years to a lady, and I told her how I'd sold this car and then found it on ebay and that no, I wasn't happy about it.Whether I'm happy about it or not is my problem.--I did it. Anyway, she told some people, who told some people, etc. I heard about the hubbub on this site yesterday eve. and logged on and read all the back and forth. When someone buys a car from another person, he's not required to divulge what his intentions are with it. He may want to keep it.He may decide later it doesn't fit his needs and re-sell it, or his intention all along was to flip it.I don't know what the current owners intentions were, and it's really none of my business.I've bought things in the past with the sole intention being to flip it, and I'm sure I will in the future. A moral code when buying or selling an item should probably be something like this. 1) I'm not required to state my intentions when purchasing something. 2) I AM required to be clearly truthful about what I'm selling, With no out right lies of course, or cleverly crafted statements designed to mislead. Any descriptions of the item or its history should strive to convey truth, not obscure or alter truth. The violations of the above code appear to be in # 2. Anyway,I'm sorry to have been a part in bringing this enturbulence to your site. It looks very informative and I'll probably throw up a few questions now and again. Thanks. From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Tue Oct 30 11:56:44 2007 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:56:44 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] oil preassure 69 2000 Message-ID: <000a01c81b26$9e0787e0$0e3baa4c@owner4d7e0adce> Hi I got a 69 2000 recently. When the engine is warmed up, at idle, the oil preassure gauge reads at or near zero. When accelerated a little it rises up in to a normal range. Is this normal, or is this trouble Larry From liveandkicking at gmail.com Tue Oct 30 12:21:56 2007 From: liveandkicking at gmail.com (Michael Kanney) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:21:56 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] 1968 Datsun 2000 roadster for sale Message-ID: Purchased 2 years ago and just never got around to fixing it up. It starts and runs, but the engine and body do need work. It would be perfect as a "running" parts car. $2,500 or Best Offer. Email me back or call: 804-363-0909 Regards, Mike From j.f at cox.net Tue Oct 30 12:49:29 2007 From: j.f at cox.net (John Friederich) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:49:29 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] oil preassure 69 2000 References: <000a01c81b26$9e0787e0$0e3baa4c@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: <010d01c81b2d$fc24af40$7d00a8c0@niki> Sounds exactly like mine, I've long since put it out of my mind. John F LV, NV '69 2000 > Hi > I got a 69 2000 recently. > When the engine is warmed up, at idle, the oil preassure gauge reads at or > near zero. When accelerated a little it rises up in to a normal range. > Is this normal, or is this trouble > Larry From roadstergb at aol.com Tue Oct 30 13:35:58 2007 From: roadstergb at aol.com (roadstergb at aol.com) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:35:58 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] oil preassure 69 2000 In-Reply-To: <010d01c81b2d$fc24af40$7d00a8c0@niki> References: <000a01c81b26$9e0787e0$0e3baa4c@owner4d7e0adce><010d01c81b2d$fc24af40$7d00a8c0@niki> Message-ID: <1251118135-1193776682-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-531229289-@bxe004.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> Hi Larry Mine too! My 69 2000 has been like it for 14 years, after a full rebuild, but has run fine ever since. Best from England. Rob www.fairlady.org ------------------ -----Original Message----- From: "John Friederich" Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:49:29 To:"Larry Braddock" , Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil preassure 69 2000 Sounds exactly like mine, I've long since put it out of my mind. John F LV, NV '69 2000 > Hi > I got a 69 2000 recently. > When the engine is warmed up, at idle, the oil preassure gauge reads at or > near zero. When accelerated a little it rises up in to a normal range. > Is this normal, or is this trouble > Larry ________________________________________ roadstergb at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 30 14:15:04 2007 From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] oil preassure 69 2000 In-Reply-To: <1251118135-1193776682-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-531229289-@bxe004.bisx.produk.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <519087.60007.qm@web52804.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Situation Normal....AOK. "They'll do that" Mike SC --- roadstergb at aol.com wrote: > Hi Larry > > Mine too! My 69 2000 has been like it for 14 years, > after a full rebuild, but has run fine ever since. > > Best from England. > > Rob > www.fairlady.org > > ------------------ > > -----Original Message----- > From: "John Friederich" > > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:49:29 > To:"Larry Braddock" , > > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil preassure 69 2000 From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 30 14:21:26 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:21:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] oil preassure 69 2000 In-Reply-To: <000a01c81b26$9e0787e0$0e3baa4c@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: <660865.71850.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The oil pressure gauge on these cars has poor low range sensitivity, or to put it another way, it is kind of a mechanical idiot light... *********************************************************************** Larry Braddock wrote: Hi I got a 69 2000 recently. When the engine is warmed up, at idle, the oil preassure gauge reads at or near zero. When accelerated a little it rises up in to a normal range. Is this normal, or is this trouble Larry ________________________________________ gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Oct 30 17:51:57 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:51:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] adjust dizzy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001501c81b58$40804800$6501a8c0@xp> Going slightly OT... ...reminds me of a '70 Ford F100 pickup I had a few years ago. Someone had swapped in a big block V8. When I got it, one cylinder was dead and one was dying. Actually ran on five cylinders before I finally pulled the engine to replace it. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John F Sandhoff Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 9:16 PM To: oliver Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] adjust dizzy [snip] > funny how hard it is to run an engine on 3 cylinders . . . My first Roadster came that way. Ran okayish but sluggish. Turned out the entire side of a piston had been melted off. Not pretty once I tore it down... From wschaibe at ucsd.edu Tue Oct 30 18:01:57 2007 From: wschaibe at ucsd.edu (Bill Schairer) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:01:57 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] oil to camshaft Message-ID: Can someone re-post the business about someway to adjust the oil flow to the camshaft? I can't find anything in the manual on this. Thanks, Bill 70 1600 San Diego From andycost at embarqmail.com Tue Oct 30 18:41:28 2007 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:41:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: boostin now Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: andy and christina cost [mailto:abcdcost at embarqmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:19 PM To: Roadster List Subject: boostin now I was digging under teh car trying to get the water/methanol nozzle installed. I noticed that the recirculating diaphram was hooked up to both the push and pull side. Stupid me, I hooked it up wrong. No wonder it was only getting 5 psi boost after the rebuild. I was starting to get nervous because the car was running at 13 psi before the new headgasket. Anyway, it was still getting 5 psi with the recirculating valve open. Not bad considering that it would do smoky sideways burnouts in any gear with 15" wide slicks. I can't imagine what it will be like with 13 psi. It boosts nicely to 10 psi in the garage not under load. I put a nitromethane label on the reservoir to psych out the competition. It really has windshield washer fluid which is 50/50 water/methanol. I had to put a purge button on the system because it tends to get air in the hose and the first few seconds don't get any spray. I'll label the button NOS. Andy From hogan8862 at comcast.net Tue Oct 30 18:51:39 2007 From: hogan8862 at comcast.net (pat &Linda) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:51:39 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] oil preassure 69 2000 References: <660865.71850.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002501c81b60$9461d8f0$8dc91418@your4f1261a8e5> bought mine new---has always been that way ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary McCormick" To: "Larry Braddock" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] oil preassure 69 2000 > The oil pressure gauge on these cars has poor low range sensitivity, or to > put it another way, it is kind of a mechanical idiot light... > *********************************************************************** > > Larry Braddock wrote: Hi > I got a 69 2000 recently. > When the engine is warmed up, at idle, the oil preassure gauge reads at or > near zero. When accelerated a little it rises up in to a normal range. > Is this normal, or is this trouble > Larry > ________________________________________ > > gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > > hogan8862 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 30 19:32:04 2007 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Houston, Texas: Nov 3rd, Datsun / Nissan Car show Message-ID: <260852.27966.qm@web81703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sterling McCall- Z Extravaganza V November 3rd, 2007 --------------------------------- 12230 SW Freeway Stafford, Texas 77477 281-243-8600 Nov 3, 2007. Registration @ 8-10:30AM Clean up that Datsun and head out to the show! Come out anyway even if your car isn't clean- as long as you're there! Also note, if you want to show your car in the club's booth at AutoRama, this is your last chance to be seen! All Datsun/Nissans are invited to the show! Click here for the show flyer http://www.zclubofhouston.com/download/Sm2007flyer.pdf Click here for the registration form http://www.zclubofhouston.com/download/Sm2007register.pdf Dan Zubkoff Katy, TX From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 30 19:32:51 2007 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Houston, Texas: Nov 3rd, Datsun / Nissan Car show Message-ID: <493436.52572.qm@web81707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sterling McCall- Z Extravaganza V November 3rd, 2007 --------------------------------- 12230 SW Freeway Stafford, Texas 77477 281-243-8600 Nov 3, 2007. Registration @ 8-10:30AM Clean up that Datsun and head out to the show! Come out anyway even if your car isn't clean- as long as you're there! Also note, if you want to show your car in the club's booth at AutoRama, this is your last chance to be seen! All Datsun/Nissans are invited to the show! Click here for the show flyer http://www.zclubofhouston.com/download/Sm2007flyer.pdf Click here for the registration form http://www.zclubofhouston.com/download/Sm2007register.pdf Dan Zubkoff Katy, TX From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Oct 30 19:17:24 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:47:24 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Rotisserie progress. Message-ID: <000601c81b64$2ddeb9f0$426fa8c0@desktop> Hi folks, for those who expressed an interest in building a Roadster Roisserie, I have finally got it happening. Centre of Gravity worked out very well, it doesn't seem to have any balances issue at all! Many thanks to those who gave me enough info. to guesstimate the pivot locations. Front pivot is 190mm from the bottom of the front apron, rear pivot is 100mm from the bottom of the rear apron. This is for a totally bare shell, no chassis, no rollbar, but with door opening braces. Anyhoo, I have posted some more pics. with captions at the site below, for those who wish to know. HYPERLINK "http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/action/pictures?ap=1&a=67b0de21b35562a6052c &pg=0"http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/action/pictures?ap=1&a=67b0de21b35562a 6052c&pg=0 If anyone needs detailed measurements etc. let me know and I'll knock up some CAD drawings for it. I usually build something first then draw the plans afterwards ;) One stabilising leg was shorter than the other so I'll swap them over and that should give me 360deg rotation. If it doesn't then I can still raise the vertical posts to achieve it. 50/50 chance and I chose wrong! Regards, G.S. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 29/10/2007 9:28 AM From d-solomon at comcast.net Tue Oct 30 20:33:48 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:33:48 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Rotisserie progress. In-Reply-To: <000601c81b64$2ddeb9f0$426fa8c0@desktop> References: <000601c81b64$2ddeb9f0$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <4727F79C.30109@comcast.net> very nice. I'd say "cleaner" than my approach. I think I'll be finished with mine this weekend, and I'll try to post pics as well. Graeme wrote: > Hi folks, > for those who expressed an interest in building a Roadster Roisserie, I have > finally got it happening. > Centre of Gravity worked out very well, it doesn't seem to have any balances > issue at all! > Many thanks to those who gave me enough info. to guesstimate the pivot > locations. > Front pivot is 190mm from the bottom of the front apron, rear pivot is 100mm > from the bottom of the rear apron. > This is for a totally bare shell, no chassis, no rollbar, but with door > opening braces. > Anyhoo, I have posted some more pics. with captions at the site below, for > those who wish to know. > HYPERLINK > "http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/action/pictures?ap=1&a=67b0de21b35562a6052c > &pg=0"http://nissanman.shutterfly.com/action/pictures?ap=1&a=67b0de21b35562a > 6052c&pg=0 > > If anyone needs detailed measurements etc. let me know and I'll knock up > some CAD drawings for it. > I usually build something first then draw the plans afterwards ;) > One stabilising leg was shorter than the other so I'll swap them over and > that should give me 360deg rotation. > If it doesn't then I can still raise the vertical posts to achieve it. > 50/50 chance and I chose wrong! > Regards, > G.S. > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 29/10/2007 > 9:28 AM > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Tue Oct 30 17:56:29 2007 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:56:29 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] oil pressure 69 2000 Message-ID: <002f01c81b58$dfc1c830$0e3baa4c@owner4d7e0adce> I got 6 or 7 replys, all saying basically the same thing. Thanks, Larry From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Wed Oct 31 04:37:35 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:37:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Firing on less than 8, now way OT Message-ID: << Going slightly OT... ...reminds me of a '70 Ford F100 pickup I had a few years ago. Someone had swapped in a big block V8. When I got it, one cylinder was dead and one was dying. Actually ran on five cylinders before I finally pulled the engine to replace it. >> Standard issue in old-timer aircraft mechanics toolbox was a printed set of instructions for taking a flathead Ford motor and plumbing one bank of cylinders to be an air compressor, running on the other bank of 4 cylinders. They'd run for years like that (although I am sure the load was probably pretty low) From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Wed Oct 31 04:46:42 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:46:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? Message-ID: Not sure if this link will work (can't test it from here at work), but does anyone know where to find one of these ball-joint removal tools? http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/mgslayer/Front%20Suspension%2009-2 006/MVC-155S.jpg I think I still have a pickle fork, but don't want to damage my ball joints, as they are going to be re-used for the moment. (just doing a full boot replacement job) Thanks, FergO, 69 2000, HB, CA From tputland at charter.net Wed Oct 31 04:53:12 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 4:53:12 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071031075312.72Y06.48686.root@fepweb09> Link works but I cannot help with the tool. Local auto parts stores around here will rent/loan tools...Checker auto is one that comes to mind quickest. Good luck -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- "O'Farrell wrote: > Not sure if this link will work (can't test it from here at work), but > does anyone know where to find one of these ball-joint removal tools? > > http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/mgslayer/Front%20Suspension%2009-2 > 006/MVC-155S.jpg > > I think I still have a pickle fork, but don't want to damage my ball > joints, as they are going to be re-used for the moment. (just doing a > full boot replacement job) > > Thanks, > FergO, 69 2000, HB, CA From bradlustig at earthlink.net Wed Oct 31 05:19:00 2007 From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:19:00 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How to clean your gas tank. Message-ID: <472872B4.1030001@earthlink.net> A guy from the forum for my D24 Dodge fabbed up this rig to clean his gas tank. Yes, he has too much time on his hands. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v65/DonCoatney/movie/?action=view¤t=GasTank.flv Brad Lustig From tputland at charter.net Wed Oct 31 06:07:45 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 6:07:45 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] How to clean your gas tank. In-Reply-To: <472872B4.1030001@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20071031090745.EIGFN.51862.root@fepweb09> That is just bloody f****ng brilliant. He can offer that service, make some money and at least pay for the materials to build it. Again, Bloody Brilliant. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Brad Lustig wrote: > A guy from the forum for my D24 Dodge fabbed up this rig to clean his > gas tank. Yes, he has too much time on his hands. > > http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v65/DonCoatney/movie/?action=view¤t=GasTank.flv > > Brad Lustig > ________________________________________ From Keith0alan at aol.com Wed Oct 31 06:52:30 2007 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:52:30 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? Message-ID: Eastwood sells a similar one that I am very happy with. keith In a message dated 10/31/2007 4:47:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com writes: Not sure if this link will work (can't test it from here at work), but does anyone know where to find one of these ball-joint removal tools? http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/mgslayer/Front%20Suspension%2009-2 006/MVC-155S.jpg I think I still have a pickle fork, but don't want to damage my ball joints, as they are going to be re-used for the moment. (just doing a full boot replacement job) Thanks, FergO, 69 2000, HB, CA ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From msedlack at neo.rr.com Wed Oct 31 07:26:55 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:26:55 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How to clean your gas tank. References: <472872B4.1030001@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002701c81bca$169e3570$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Looks suspiciously like a single cavity, thermoplastic roto-molding machine. http://youtube.com/watch?v=xcdkDKkiBeU small rotator http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q5eDA2KnrSc huge rotator A hollow mold is mounted on a rotator, filled with a charge of powdered resin, and spun in an oven, or in some cases the mold itself is heated. The process is used to make large hollow parts, like kids outdoor play houses, kayaks, barrels, and not surprisingingly, fuel tanks...... Wonder if he ever worked in a rotomolding plant. If not, its a mother of an invention... Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Lustig" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:19 AM Subject: [Roadsters] How to clean your gas tank. > A guy from the forum for my D24 Dodge fabbed up this rig to clean his > gas tank. Yes, he has too much time on his hands. > > http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v65/DonCoatney/movie/?action=view¤t=GasTank.flv > > Brad Lustig > ________________________________________ > > msedlack at neo.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From 12061997 at comcast.net Wed Oct 31 07:28:17 2007 From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:28:17 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] engine paint Message-ID: <103120071428.1394.472891010001F0E5000005722200734840C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net> Hi list, I have been cleaning my engine and was looking for some feedback on engine paint. thanks, bob 67-1600 muncie,in From bradlustig at earthlink.net Wed Oct 31 07:55:52 2007 From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:55:52 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] How to clean your gas tank. In-Reply-To: <002701c81bca$169e3570$6501a8c0@p428ghz> References: <472872B4.1030001@earthlink.net> <002701c81bca$169e3570$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Message-ID: <47289778.6060408@earthlink.net> I've seen a similar thing for chocolate molds before. Very similar movement, but completely different setup. And needless to say, the scale was a tad smaller. Mark Sedlack wrote: > Looks suspiciously like a single cavity, thermoplastic roto-molding machine. > http://youtube.com/watch?v=xcdkDKkiBeU small rotator > http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q5eDA2KnrSc huge rotator > > A hollow mold is mounted on a rotator, filled with a charge of powdered > resin, and spun in an oven, or in some cases the mold itself is heated. The > process is used to make large hollow parts, like kids outdoor play houses, > kayaks, barrels, and not surprisingingly, fuel tanks...... > > Wonder if he ever worked in a rotomolding plant. If not, its a mother of an > invention... > Mark From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Oct 31 08:54:35 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:54:35 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Autozone will lend you one for free Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >From: Keith0alan at aol.com >To: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? >Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:52:30 EDT > >Eastwood sells a similar one that I am very happy with. > >keith > > >In a message dated 10/31/2007 4:47:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, >Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com writes: > >Not sure if this link will work (can't test it from here at work), but >does anyone know where to find one of these ball-joint removal tools? > >http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/mgslayer/Front%20Suspension%2009-2 >006/MVC-155S.jpg > >I think I still have a pickle fork, but don't want to damage my ball >joints, as they are going to be re-used for the moment. (just doing a >full boot replacement job) > >Thanks, >FergO, 69 2000, HB, CA > > > > > > > >************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com >________________________________________ > >granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From steve at olsonarchitect.com Wed Oct 31 09:25:52 2007 From: steve at olsonarchitect.com (Stephen Wan) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:25:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] oil to camshaft References: Message-ID: <031101c81bda$b4fd78b0$7100a8c0@Stephen> > Where is the oil flow adjuster? I never heard of that before. It looks like a screw, with a lock nut on it, on the top of (as I recall) the rearmost rocker arm tower. It's actually a needle valve. Loosen the nut and screw it in to lessen oil flow, loosen it to increase. With it all the way in, there's no flow thru the shaft. With it missing, most of the oil pumps out the hole and again no flow to where it needs to go. Page 21 of the cheesy factory original shop manual ("screw-adjust, valve rocker") shows it. Interestingly, the online fiche (page 33 of the engine section) does NOT show this. Note that there is a set screw that must be tight and keeps the shaft from spinning. This adjusting screw is next to the set screw. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Schairer" To: "Datsun Roadster" Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:01 PM Subject: [Roadsters] oil to camshaft > Can someone re-post the business about someway to adjust the oil flow > to the camshaft? I can't find anything in the manual on this. > > Thanks, > > Bill > 70 1600 > San Diego > ________________________________________ From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Wed Oct 31 09:41:37 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:41:37 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] California fires In-Reply-To: <234679.16275.qm@web55506.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Cannoit begin to imagine what that must have been like for you all. Earthquakes are nothing (IMHO) compared to flood and fire. Thanks be to whatever deity exists that you,cat and roadster are all ok. Peter Eliza '70 SPL TOADSAN >From: Chris Casey >To: 'Datsun Roadster List' >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] California fires >Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:52:35 -0700 (PDT) > > Monday, October 22, 4:20 am... > > I awoke to the sounds of the block behind us in flames. > We had no warning... we flew out of the house in less than five minutes. > The street behind us was in falmes, the cul-d-sac to the north was in >flames, the hill to the west was in flames. I had to leave the roadster >behind. I just couldn't see driving a convertable when it was raining >flaming embers! > > When I talked the police into escorting me back into our neighborhood on >Tuesday to look for our cat "Archie" I found our house still there. We >lost 4 houses on our street, 11 on the street behind us, and 24 on the >block behind that (on Lankenshire... where president Bush took his stroll >through the rubble). > > The house is pretty smokey and the garage is covered in sute and ash, >including the roadster. But at least is is still there! > > All in all, a very close call. > > Chris Casey > 66' 1600 > Rancho Bernardo > San Diego. >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com >________________________________________ > >granvillecomputing at hotmail.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From bubwin at mts.net Wed Oct 31 10:28:20 2007 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:28:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A598780469B4B459E500E0995CB724F@BobPC> You don't usually need one if you have 2 good sized hammers. I use a 2 1/2 lb ball pien and a 4 pound drilling hammer (short handled sledge), but 2 of the 2 1/2 lb ball piens will work. Small hammers do not have enough mass. Here's how. -Remove the cotter pin -Loosen the castle nut, but do not remove it, it prevents things from flying and protects the threads from errant hammer blows. -Place the drilling hammer on the back side of the knuckle where the taper goes through. -Strike the side opposite the drilling hammer. Don't be shy with the hammer blows, it's a strong casting. -The drilling hammer will bounce from the force, so make sure it's still in place each swing of the ball pien. -The concussion usually pops it loose after a few good blows. And yes it works on tie rods too! Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:46 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? > Not sure if this link will work (can't test it from here at work), but > does anyone know where to find one of these ball-joint removal tools? > > http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/mgslayer/Front%20Suspension%2009-2 > 006/MVC-155S.jpg > > I think I still have a pickle fork, but don't want to damage my ball > joints, as they are going to be re-used for the moment. (just doing a > full boot replacement job) > > Thanks, > FergO, 69 2000, HB, CA > ________________________________________ > > bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 31 10:39:21 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? In-Reply-To: <3A598780469B4B459E500E0995CB724F@BobPC> Message-ID: <780419.86120.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In the words of one of the old-time riggers at our launch test site, to a younger coworker: "Don't use a hammer, man - use your head!" Get the tool, do it right. Replacement parts for these babies do not grow on trees. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 Bubba wrote: You don't usually need one if you have 2 good sized hammers. I use a 2 1/2 lb ball pien and a 4 pound drilling hammer (short handled sledge), but 2 of the 2 1/2 lb ball piens will work. Small hammers do not have enough mass. Here's how. -Remove the cotter pin -Loosen the castle nut, but do not remove it, it prevents things from flying and protects the threads from errant hammer blows. -Place the drilling hammer on the back side of the knuckle where the taper goes through. -Strike the side opposite the drilling hammer. Don't be shy with the hammer blows, it's a strong casting. -The drilling hammer will bounce from the force, so make sure it's still in place each swing of the ball pien. -The concussion usually pops it loose after a few good blows. And yes it works on tie rods too! Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:46 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? > Not sure if this link will work (can't test it from here at work), but > does anyone know where to find one of these ball-joint removal tools? > > http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/mgslayer/Front%20Suspension%2009-2 > 006/MVC-155S.jpg > > I think I still have a pickle fork, but don't want to damage my ball > joints, as they are going to be re-used for the moment. (just doing a > full boot replacement job) > > Thanks, > FergO, 69 2000, HB, CA > ________________________________________ > > bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________ gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From bubwin at mts.net Wed Oct 31 10:44:22 2007 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:44:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] California fires In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Where I live in Lorette, Manitoba Canada (just outside Winnipeg, our biggest concern is usually blizzards which may snow us in for a few days, which I can live with, or spring flooding, from snow melt. Because we are so flat here, the water gets deep and wide, stays for a few weeks, but doesn't flow in a torrent. http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-70-670/disasters_tragedies/manitoba_floods/ And although we had a level 5 tornado this summer (the first ever in Canada )about 90 miles west of here, we don't see much to worry about. Forest fires usually are in recreation areas or smaller communities, where evacuations are not of the scale California had. Hope all is OK with everyone in the area of the fires. Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender > > > > >>From: Chris Casey >>To: 'Datsun Roadster List' >>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] California fires >>Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:52:35 -0700 (PDT) >> >> Monday, October 22, 4:20 am... >> >> I awoke to the sounds of the block behind us in flames. >> We had no warning... we flew out of the house in less than five >> minutes. >> The street behind us was in falmes, the cul-d-sac to the north was in >>flames, the hill to the west was in flames. I had to leave the roadster >>behind. I just couldn't see driving a convertable when it was raining >>flaming embers! >> >> When I talked the police into escorting me back into our neighborhood >> on >>Tuesday to look for our cat "Archie" I found our house still there. We >>lost 4 houses on our street, 11 on the street behind us, and 24 on the >>block behind that (on Lankenshire... where president Bush took his stroll >>through the rubble). >> >> The house is pretty smokey and the garage is covered in sute and ash, >>including the roadster. But at least is is still there! >> >> All in all, a very close call. >> >> Chris Casey >> 66' 1600 >> Rancho Bernardo >> San Diego. >>Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>http://mail.yahoo.com >>________________________________________ >> >>granvillecomputing at hotmail.com >> >>Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >>http://www.team.net/archive >> >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > > bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us Wed Oct 31 10:42:15 2007 From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:42:15 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? References: <780419.86120.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B18441B72@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us> Here, Here. The hammer is a great tool for persuasion, however there is a reason that the hammer is called the 'Schwinn tool' in my circle of bicycling geeks, and a 'Honda/VW tool' for the car geeks. Use the right tool, your car will appreciate it, especially the fender that just got dented when swinging the 3lb sledge at it. Anyone got a decent R16 and trans for a swap while my lump is getting the rebuild? Eric G. Modesto, CA ________________________________ From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us at autox.team.net on behalf of Gary McCormick Sent: Wed 10/31/2007 10:39 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? In the words of one of the old-time riggers at our launch test site, to a younger coworker: "Don't use a hammer, man - use your head!" Get the tool, do it right. Replacement parts for these babies do not grow on trees. From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Wed Oct 31 10:52:32 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:52:32 EDT Subject: [Roadsters] How to clean your gas tank. Message-ID: In a message dated 10/31/2007 6:19:40 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, bradlustig at earthlink.net writes: http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v65/DonCoatney/movie/?action=view¤t=Ga sTank.flv Shucky darm Brad - his contraption acts just the way we all drive our roadsters in the mountains of Colorado. Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb) 1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb) 1964 SPL310-01289 1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70) 1970 SPL311-28169 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com From joek at camberconstruction.com Wed Oct 31 10:57:42 2007 From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:57:42 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? In-Reply-To: <780419.86120.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200710311757.l9VHvcra027802@flpi102.prodigy.net> And in the words of Bob Knapp, of Knapp Construction (an old boss of mine) "Use your hammer, not your head! I don't pay you to think, I pay you to build." He was usually red faced and screaming when he would say things like this. Joe Kinstle Project Supervisor Camber Construction Inc. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary McCormick Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:39 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? In the words of one of the old-time riggers at our launch test site, to a younger coworker: "Don't use a hammer, man - use your head!" Get the tool, do it right. Replacement parts for these babies do not grow on trees. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 From hallosb at juno.com Wed Oct 31 13:27:24 2007 From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:27:24 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? Message-ID: <20071031.132724.7471.0@webmail20.vgs.untd.com> Bob Winslade wrote: -Remove the cotter pin -Loosen the castle nut, but do not remove it ---------------------------------- I use the same method, just with the pickle fork. The coil spring helps to separate the joint. Just make sure you have plenty of thread. No need to loosen the nut much. Pickle fork won't damage the ball joint but, will tear up the dust boot. Good excuse to order some polyurethene dust boots. Dean sells them. Other vendors may sell them, also. Autozone loans tools for free so, that's yet another option. Once the joint is separated, I like to use a coil spring compressor for added safety. Also, a free loan at Autozone. Dan McHatton '66 1600 From aultgc at jorsm.com Wed Oct 31 17:20:06 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:20:06 -0400 Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? Message-ID: <200711010020.lA10K6ZT027371@outbound-mta.egix.net> Gary, I'm with you -- buy or borrow the right tool. A "pickle fork" will work, but it will damage the dust cover. So, I won't even use that tool, which is intended for joint separation, on my car. Gary Ault On Wed Oct 31 13:39 , Gary McCormick sent: In the words of one of the old-time riggers at our launch test site, to a younger coworker: "Don't use a hammer, man - use your head!" Get the tool, do it right. Replacement parts for these babies do not grow on trees. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 Bubba wrote: You don't usually need one if you have 2 good sized hammers. I use a 2 1/2 lb ball pien and a 4 pound drilling hammer (short handled sledge), but 2 of the 2 1/2 lb ball piens will work. Small hammers do not have enough mass. Here's how. -Remove the cotter pin -Loosen the castle nut, but do not remove it, it prevents things from flying and protects the threads from errant hammer blows. -Place the drilling hammer on the back side of the knuckle where the taper goes through. -Strike the side opposite the drilling hammer. Don't be shy with the hammer blows, it's a strong casting. -The drilling hammer will bounce from the force, so make sure it's still in place each swing of the ball pien. -The concussion usually pops it loose after a few good blows. And yes it works on tie rods too! Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: "O'Farrell, Fergus" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:46 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? > Not sure if this link will work (can't test it from here at work), but > does anyone know where to find one of these ball-joint removal tools? > > http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f45/mgslayer/Front%20Suspension%2 009-2 > 006/MVC-155S.jpg > > I think I still have a pickle fork, but don't want to damage my ball > joints, as they are going to be re-used for the moment. (just doing a > full boot replacement job) > > Thanks, > FergO, 69 2000, HB, CA > ________________________________________ > > bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters< /FONT> ________________________________________ gkmcc at sbcgl obal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters< BR> ________________________________________ aultgc at jorsm.c om Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters< BR> From aultgc at jorsm.com Wed Oct 31 17:42:12 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:42:12 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? References: <20071031.132724.7471.0@webmail20.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <001801c81c20$0b6070a0$11a0aa42@gaxp1> If anyone wants to know the sequence I used to put Koni shocks on the front of my '66 1600/U20 many years ago, let me know. (Koni's won't go through the opening in the lower A-frame.) The car was on my garage floor, and I used only a floor jack-- didn't have a spring compressor at the time. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? > Bob Winslade wrote: > -Remove the cotter pin > -Loosen the castle nut, but do not remove it > ---------------------------------- > I use the same method, just with the pickle fork. The coil spring helps > to > separate the joint. Just make sure you have plenty of thread. No need to > loosen the nut much. > Pickle fork won't damage the ball joint but, will tear up the dust boot. > Good > excuse to order some polyurethene dust boots. Dean sells them. Other > vendors > may sell them, also. > Autozone loans tools for free so, that's yet another option. > Once the joint is separated, I like to use a coil spring compressor for > added > safety. Also, a free loan at Autozone. > Dan McHatton > '66 1600 > ________________________________________ > > aultgc at jorsm.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From bubwin at mts.net Wed Oct 31 19:03:22 2007 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:03:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source? Message-ID: I know many of you are questioning the use of hammers to separate the ball joint from the spindle over a pickle fork, or press. I've never had a press, nor used one in all my years as a fully licenced mechanic, and believe me, I have spent enough on my tools (one very complete set for work, one complete set for home, and a substantial set for the race car trailer.) to buy and restore at least 5 or 6 roadsters. While working as a mechanic, I was also Provincially certified by the Government to conduct safety inspections on everything from cars and light trucks to Highway Tractors, and buses. I If you can get a press, by all means use it, but it's not necessary. Here are a couple reasons I never use a pickle fork on a ball joint I plan to reuse, unless I have to. If you use the wrong size, and damage the ball, the joint is done. If you damage the taper, the joint is done. Using a pickle fork puts vertical stress on the ball, and the cup. the tolerance for movement in a joint in this direction is critical already, do you want to stress it more if you plan on using the same, expensive to replace ball joint? Yes you do usually ruin the boot. I'm also including a couple links showing the hammer procedure is an acceptable one. http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=211147&page=3 http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_separate_the_control_arm_from_ball_join t_without_the_special_puller http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/05/0e/cd/0900823d80050ecd/re pairInfoPages.htm Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender