From mtyler at hctc.net  Thu Nov  1 06:01:15 2007
From: mtyler at hctc.net (Marc&Heidi)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:01:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source?
In-Reply-To: <780419.86120.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <780419.86120.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <166FD3D2-5E2C-4EA1-9B45-9606D923549F@hctc.net>

This method is quite non-destructive.  Here's a video of John Twist  
at University Motors ( LBC guru) demonstrating a similar method on an  
MG Midget.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ428hwJn38

I had some really stubborn tie-rod ends on my 320 truck.  Pickle- 
forks and prying tools like one of the ones pictured were not  
working, but were messing up the rod end.  The two hammer trick with  
the castle nut lose but still on made the little beastie jump out of  
the hole.  Took a few times, but caused no damage.


On Oct 31, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:

> In the words of one of the old-time riggers at our launch test  
> site, to a younger coworker: "Don't use a hammer, man - use your  
> head!"
>
> Get the tool, do it right. Replacement parts for these babies do  
> not grow on trees.

From r.long2 at comcast.net  Thu Nov  1 06:58:37 2007
From: r.long2 at comcast.net (r.long2 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:58:37 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Team car owner wanted (From 240Z List)
Message-ID: <110120071358.16525.4729DB8D0003544A0000408D2207300793CD09020104D29D@comcast.net>

Greg,

I've forwarded your message to the Roadster List.

Best of Luck,
Robert - Roadster & 240Z - ABQ
 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Greg Ira" <gira at eeisales.com>
> 
> Hello to all Z list folks,
> 
> I just came back from the Production festival at VIR where my team clinched
> the ECR (Endurance Championship Racing) series in a 240Z with two wins in
> one weekend! Our team also finished third in a Datsun 2000 Roadster against
> about 15 of the fastest EP cars in the country.
> 
> 
> 
> Revtec Race Engineering-
> 
> Our goal is the 2008 EProduction SCCA National Championship
> 
> Dilema- We have been racing a 240z in this division with limited success.(
> not due to car but restrictions set by the competition board against the Z).
> Our car is developed to the max and it boils down to the development of the
> more modern cars, RX7's, Honda's, etc. They have outpaced us because we're
> at a plateau for development with the Z.
> 
> 
> 
> There are several ways to win a National Championship in SCCA Production Car
> racing. One way is to have the competition board and major contributors
> representing one brand, (Mazda at this time). Another way is to sneak up on
> them with a car that hasn't been developed fully yet.
> 
> Enter the Datsun Roadster- I just drove one that is about 85% developed
> against the much lighter and more powerful Lotus Caterhams and had a great
> race.
> 
> 
> 
> I know of a roadster that is for sale and our team is in need of a car
> owner. I have an established team with Chassis guy, Engine guy, Penske guy,
> driver, and crew members.
> 
> 
> 
> If anyone out there knows of anyone that wants to be a part of an
> established SCCA National Racing program by being the car owner, please
> forward contact information to me or contact me directly via email.
> 
> 
> 
> We're passionate about what we do and the level of preparation at this level
> can only be realized by living it. Come and join our team!!
> 
> 
> 
> Greg Ira
> 
> Revtec Race Engineering
> 
> www.revtec1.com <http://www.revtec1.com/>
> 
> gira at revtec1.com

From chalsted at comcast.net  Thu Nov  1 08:19:40 2007
From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:19:40 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] free parts roadsters in Virginia
Message-ID: <005601c81c9a$a21b7970$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4>

I have a need to get some of the clutter out of here- have about a dozen
roadsters I'd literally give away, most have no drivetrains and are rusty,
but most are rollers with steering and suspension bits and still with
differentials in them. if you just wanted to strip one out and take it to
the local salvage yard, that's a possibility too. a couple 1600's still have
drivetrains in them. I'm near Front Royal Va. also near where 66 out of DC
runs into 81 north-south. send me an e-mail if interested

Craig

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Thu Nov  1 07:26:07 2007
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:26:07 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] SEMA show, Rare Parts ball joints
Message-ID: <c73.1b952647.345b3bff@aol.com>

Hello all,
 
    I was at the SEMA auto industry show yesterday.  Talked to the Rare Parts 
folks. Mentioned the Roadster ball joint project and  they remembered all 
about it. A picture of our ball joint is even on the latest  flier and will be 
available in the new catalog that comes out next year. Thanks  again to Linda 
and all the folks that made this happen.
 
keith williams



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From chalsted at comcast.net  Thu Nov  1 08:29:44 2007
From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:29:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster run in Halloween garb yesterday,
	state trooper...
Message-ID: <006301c81c9c$0ac09bd0$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4>

I put on a Ronald McDonald style wig yesterday and took a run into town in
the blue roadster to pick up Elaine at work... was waiting to make a right
at a light with traffic filling in the lane beside me... all of a sudden
hear a beep, look to my left and a state trooper looks like he's trying to
open his passenger window- too far in a seatbelt, he gave me a big grin and
a thumbs up instead. I returned the gesture with an appropriate hand sign
and a smile then  quickly turned right, pulled out and passed the 2 cars in
front of me, and boogied  ;-)  should have taken pictures, Elaine was in
full witch costume at work when I picked her up- had to hold her hat on with
both hands the whole way home. have gone out for runs the past 3 days, will
be out this afternoon too- love this weather!

Craig

From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  1 07:39:33 2007
From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:39:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster run in Halloween garb yesterday,
 state  trooper...
Message-ID: <760593.14691.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

global warming rocks!

----- Original Message ----
From: Craig Halsted
<chalsted at comcast.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday,
November 1, 2007 8:29:44 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster run in Halloween
garb yesterday, state trooper...


I put on a Ronald McDonald style wig
yesterday and took a run into town
 in
the blue roadster to pick up Elaine at
work... was waiting to make a
 right
at a light with traffic filling in the
lane beside me... all of a
 sudden
hear a beep, look to my left and a state
trooper looks like he's trying
 to
open his passenger window- too far in a
seatbelt, he gave me a big grin
 and
a thumbs up instead. I returned the
gesture with an appropriate hand
 sign
and a smile then  quickly turned right,
pulled out and passed the 2
 cars in
front of me, and boogied  ;-)  should
have taken pictures, Elaine was
 in
full witch costume at work when I picked
her up- had to hold her hat on
 with
both hands the whole way home. have gone
out for runs the past 3 days,
 will
be out this afternoon too- love this
weather!

Craig
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From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  1 08:52:25 2007
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:52:25 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] SEMA show, Rare Parts ball joints
References: <c73.1b952647.345b3bff@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004701c81c9f$33be33a0$6500a8c0@lap>

I checked out Rare Parts online catalog, looks like they're already listed
under: 1968, Nissan, 2000 .
Part number - 10245,   price - $158.63.
http://ecomserv.bytedesigns.com/ez/shopdisplayproducts.asp

Mike Hudson  '67 - R20 Stroker/5-speed

----- Original Message -----
From: <Keith0alan at aol.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:26 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] SEMA show, Rare Parts ball joints


> Hello all,
>
>     I was at the SEMA auto industry show yesterday.  Talked to the Rare
Parts
> folks. Mentioned the Roadster ball joint project and  they remembered all
> about it. A picture of our ball joint is even on the latest  flier and
will be
> available in the new catalog that comes out next year. Thanks  again to
Linda
> and all the folks that made this happen.
>
> keith williams

From aultgc at jorsm.com  Thu Nov  1 10:26:32 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:26:32 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] SEMA show, Rare Parts ball joints
Message-ID: <200711011726.lA1HQW6D022019@outbound-mta.egix.net>

   But  they're  not listed under 1966, which uses the same joint.  Maybe
   Rare  Parts  needs some help with the Applications List, or users need
   to check all years.

   Gary
   On Thu Nov 1 11:52 , "Mike H." sent:
   
     I checked out Rare Parts online catalog, looks like they're already
     listed
     under: 1968, Nissan, 2000 .
     Part number - 10245, price - $158.63.
     http://ecomserv.bytedesigns.com/ez/shopdisplayproducts.asp
     Mike Hudson '67 - R20 Stroker/5-speed
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: <Keith0alan at a ol.com>
     To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
     Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:26 AM
     Subject: [Roadsters] SEMA show, Rare Parts ball joints
     > Hello all,
     >
     >  I  was  at  the SEMA auto industry show yesterday. Talked to the
     Rare
     Parts
     >  folks.  Mentioned  the  Roadster  ball  joint  project  and they
     remembered all
     > about it. A picture of our ball joint is even on the latest flier
     and
     will be
     >  available  in  the  new catalog that comes out next year. Thanks
     again to
     Linda
     > and all the folks that made this happen.
     >
     > keith williams
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Nov  1 11:01:11 2007
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:01:11 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] SEMA show, Rare Parts ball joints
In-Reply-To: <200711011726.lA1HQW6D022019@outbound-mta.egix.net>
References: <200711011726.lA1HQW6D022019@outbound-mta.egix.net>
Message-ID: <8C9EAC8525F38F6-894-6E1D@webmail-mf18.sysops.aol.com>

 It was always the intention of Rareparts? to sell the manufactured parts after the initial Ball Joint Project order run and they have been doing so. You can order the parts thru a auto parts store or direct thru Rareparts as noted. They are aware that the part fits all years and in fact is based on the early year ball joint design, not the later year design. See the Ball Joint Project thread on the 311 List if you are interested in all the details, or you can search the archives here as well. Cost is basically double plus tax of what it was originally for those who supported the Project with their orders. 
Since Keith started this thread, I would again like to thank the participants, the 2 Roadster List webmasters, Mark and Steve, the many tech advisors behind the scenes who freely gave top-notch expert info and help. I had an overall positive experience, made some new friends, learned alot and had fun. Just what Roadsters should be about!
Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc at jorsm.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; 'Mike H . ' <twobeaners at earthlink.net>
Sent: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:26 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SEMA show, Rare Parts ball joints










   But  they're  not listed under 1966, which uses the same joint.  Maybe
   Rare  Parts  needs some help with the Applications List, or users need
   to check all years.

   Gary
   On Thu Nov 1 11:52 , "Mike H." sent:
   
     I checked out Rare Parts online catalog, looks like they're already
     listed
     under: 1968, Nissan, 2000 .
     Part number - 10245, price - $158.63.
     http://ecomserv.bytedesigns.com/ez/shopdisplayproducts.asp
     Mike Hudson '67 - R20 Stroker/5-speed
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: <Keith0alan at a ol.com>
     To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
     Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 8:26 AM
     Subject: [Roadsters] SEMA show, Rare Parts ball joints
     > Hello all,
     >
     >  I  was  at  the SEMA auto industry show yesterday. Talked to the
     Rare
     Parts
     >  folks.  Mentioned  the  Roadster  ball  joint  project  and they
     remembered all
     > about it. A picture of our ball joint is even on the latest flier
     and
     will be
     >  available  in  the  new catalog that comes out next year. Thanks
     again to
     Linda
     > and all the folks that made this happen.
     >
     > keith williams
     ________________________________________
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     http://www.team.net/archive
     http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters< BR>
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From jrdmf at aol.com  Thu Nov  1 16:52:00 2007
From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:52:00 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay awareness
Message-ID: <8C9EAF95478419D-628-15AF@MBLK-M27.sysops.aol.com>

Just a heads up to those of you who rely on ebay for those hard to find or discounted roadster parts. (Who doesn't, right?)

I know this is?a touchy area so I won't?bore you with the?details of how?I got burned but there is an unethical ebay user who occasionally sells Roadster parts?that has already had two user names suspended and is now into his 4th user name in 3 years. (Not sure about you guys but I've had one name in 6 1/2 years and it suits me just fine?) His M.O. is to pump up his feedback by?making purchases of?trivial?items but keeps his sales private (big shock) so as to not let anybody see who his victims are. It's too bad that ebay takes so long to finally make their move but in the mean time everybody needs to be careful because there is no rhyme or reason as to whom he steals from.

His previous and latest names are....

corebuyer40??? (suspended)
theshop62?????? (suspended)
nsilva65????????? (changed yesterday)
sushihouse65? (latest name)

The really sad part is that I believe he is also a member of this list and tends to "beg" parts off of people?with the implication that?he has a roadster and then turns around and sells them. (He pulls that same scam on other automotive?list's too.) I realize there is nothing illegal about scamming people out of parts but there is definitely something "unsavory" about acting like you are an enthusiast just to score free parts?and make a profit.

Not?going?for any type of vindication?here. Just trying to make sure nobody else gets burned.

Jon Frampton
Huntington Beach


________________________________________________________________________
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  1 17:07:07 2007
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:07:07 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source?
In-Reply-To: <166FD3D2-5E2C-4EA1-9B45-9606D923549F@hctc.net>
Message-ID: <E1Ink3u-0002e4-AE@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I didn't even need to go this far! My Comp springs and a SLIGHT tap of a
hammer on the castle nut supplied plenty of pressure to pop em right off
without boogering the threads! Wahoo! Turns out my upper Joints were OK.
Anyone need a pair... for free? Email me.

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Marc&Heidi
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:01 AM
To: Gary McCormick
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ball joint removal, tool source?

This method is quite non-destructive.  Here's a video of John Twist  
at University Motors ( LBC guru) demonstrating a similar method on an  
MG Midget.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ428hwJn38

I had some really stubborn tie-rod ends on my 320 truck.  Pickle- 
forks and prying tools like one of the ones pictured were not  
working, but were messing up the rod end.  The two hammer trick with  
the castle nut lose but still on made the little beastie jump out of  
the hole.  Took a few times, but caused no damage.


On Oct 31, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Gary McCormick wrote:

> In the words of one of the old-time riggers at our launch test  
> site, to a younger coworker: "Don't use a hammer, man - use your  
> head!"
>
> Get the tool, do it right. Replacement parts for these babies do  
> not grow on trees.
________________________________________

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From reblues at reblues.net  Thu Nov  1 17:35:00 2007
From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:35:00 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay awareness
References: <8C9EAF95478419D-628-15AF@MBLK-M27.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <002001c81ce8$3455d590$6701a8c0@ACER4230>

Here is a link to a discussion of this seller on 311s.org.

http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6825

A few years ago  I bought a windshield from him, theshop62.  He shipped only 
wrapped in bubble wrap & shipping tape.  Of course it arrived busted.  He 
refunded my money and then collected the insurance.  I left positive feed 
back,  my bad, and stated that it could have been packaged better.  He left 
me negative feedback.  My one and only.  Live & learn.  Be warned.

Richard


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jrdmf at aol.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 7:52 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay awareness


> Just a heads up to those of you who rely on ebay for those hard to find or 
> discounted roadster parts. (Who doesn't, right?)
>
> I know this is?a touchy area so I won't?bore you with the?details of how?I 
> got burned but there is an unethical ebay user who occasionally sells 
> Roadster parts?that has already had two user names suspended and is now 
> into his 4th user name in 3 years. (Not sure about you guys but I've had 
> one name in 6 1/2 years and it suits me just fine?) His M.O. is to pump up 
> his feedback by?making purchases of?trivial?items but keeps his sales 
> private (big shock) so as to not let anybody see who his victims are. It's 
> too bad that ebay takes so long to finally make their move but in the mean 
> time everybody needs to be careful because there is no rhyme or reason as 
> to whom he steals from.
>
> His previous and latest names are....
>
> corebuyer40??? (suspended)
> theshop62?????? (suspended)
> nsilva65????????? (changed yesterday)
> sushihouse65? (latest name)
>
> The really sad part is that I believe he is also a member of this list and 
> tends to "beg" parts off of people?with the implication that?he has a 
> roadster and then turns around and sells them. (He pulls that same scam on 
> other automotive?list's too.) I realize there is nothing illegal about 
> scamming people out of parts but there is definitely something "unsavory" 
> about acting like you are an enthusiast just to score free parts?and make 
> a profit.
>
> Not?going?for any type of vindication?here. Just trying to make sure 
> nobody else gets burned.
>
> Jon Frampton
> Huntington Beach

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Thu Nov  1 17:39:27 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:39:27 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay awareness
In-Reply-To: <8C9EAF95478419D-628-15AF@MBLK-M27.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C9EAF95478419D-628-15AF@MBLK-M27.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0711011739p29aa2ef0o1506fdf33d2b0725@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Joe,
Thanks for the heads up.




On 11/1/07, jrdmf at aol.com <jrdmf at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Just a heads up to those of you who rely on ebay for those hard to find or
> discounted roadster parts. (Who doesn't, right?)
>
> I know this is?a touchy area so I won't?bore you with the?details of how?I
> got burned but there is an unethical ebay user who occasionally sells
> Roadster parts?that has already had two user names suspended and is now into
> his 4th user name in 3 years. (Not sure about you guys but I've had one name
> in 6 1/2 years and it suits me just fine?) His M.O. is to pump up his
> feedback by?making purchases of?trivial?items but keeps his sales private
> (big shock) so as to not let anybody see who his victims are. It's too bad
> that ebay takes so long to finally make their move but in the mean time
> everybody needs to be careful because there is no rhyme or reason as to whom
> he steals from.
>
> His previous and latest names are....
>
> corebuyer40??? (suspended)
> theshop62?????? (suspended)
> nsilva65????????? (changed yesterday)
> sushihouse65? (latest name)
>
> The really sad part is that I believe he is also a member of this list and
> tends to "beg" parts off of people?with the implication that?he has a
> roadster and then turns around and sells them. (He pulls that same scam on
> other automotive?list's too.) I realize there is nothing illegal about
> scamming people out of parts but there is definitely something "unsavory"
> about acting like you are an enthusiast just to score free parts?and make a
> profit.
>
> Not?going?for any type of vindication?here. Just trying to make sure
> nobody else gets burned.
>
> Jon Frampton
> Huntington Beach
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! -
> http://mail.aol.com
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>
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>
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>
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Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Thu Nov  1 19:58:56 2007
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon)
Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:58:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] free parts roadsters in Virginia
In-Reply-To: <005601c81c9a$a21b7970$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4>
References: <005601c81c9a$a21b7970$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4>
Message-ID: <472A9270.80909@comcast.net>

wow....
i'd pay somebody money if they felt like going and stripping off a few 
front fenders for me......
I'd come haul some away for ya..... but I'm in Utah.....

Craig Halsted wrote:
> I have a need to get some of the clutter out of here- have about a dozen
> roadsters I'd literally give away, most have no drivetrains and are rusty,
> but most are rollers with steering and suspension bits and still with
> differentials in them. if you just wanted to strip one out and take it to
> the local salvage yard, that's a possibility too. a couple 1600's still have
> drivetrains in them. I'm near Front Royal Va. also near where 66 out of DC
> runs into 81 north-south. send me an e-mail if interested
>
> Craig
> ________________________________________
>
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From dato1500 at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  1 20:11:12 2007
From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:11:12 +0800
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay awareness
In-Reply-To: <8C9EAF95478419D-628-15AF@MBLK-M27.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C9EAF95478419D-628-15AF@MBLK-M27.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY102-W161F125A242FB9B153C251D58D0@phx.gbl>

ebay is such a joy to deal on.
I have just been touch by a seller for a extra $45 dollars on postage to
Australia. Seller came back with I will look at invoice and get back to you
and refund a part of the overcharge as I have a guy who packs and drives to
the post office and this cost seller money. Never received refund.

Pete> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:52:00
-0400> From: jrdmf at aol.com> Subject: [Roadsters] ebay awareness> > Just a
heads up to those of you who rely on ebay for those hard to find or discounted
roadster parts. (Who doesn't, right?)> > I know this is?a touchy area so I
won't?bore you with the?details of how?I got burned but there is an unethical
ebay user who occasionally sells Roadster parts?that has already had two user
names suspended and is now into his 4th user name in 3 years. (Not sure about
you guys but I've had one name in 6 1/2 years and it suits me just fine?) His
M.O. is to pump up his feedback by?making purchases of?trivial?items but keeps
his sales private (big shock) so as to not let anybody see who his victims
are. It's too bad that ebay takes so long to finally make their move but in
the mean time everybody needs to be careful because there is no rhyme or
reason as to whom he steals from.> > His previous and latest names are....> >
corebuyer40??? (suspended)> theshop62?????? (suspended)> nsilva65?????????
(changed yesterday)> sushihouse65? (latest name)> > The really sad part is
that I believe he is also a member of this list and tends to "beg" parts off
of people?with the implication that?he has a roadster and then turns around
and sells them. (He pulls that same scam on other automotive?list's too.) I
realize there is nothing illegal about scamming people out of parts but there
is definitely something "unsavory" about acting like you are an enthusiast
just to score free parts?and make a profit.> > Not?going?for any type of
vindication?here. Just trying to make sure nobody else gets burned.> > Jon
Frampton> Huntington Beach> > >
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Thu Nov  1 21:31:16 2007
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 15:01:16 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Glass fuel filter part wanted.
Message-ID: <000c01c81d09$373fd320$426fa8c0@desktop>

Hi folks,
got a wee problem with my glass bowl FF for a '65 SP310.
The actual bowl seems to be too small.
The bowl is only 42mm tall, the filter fits in but the retaining spring
doesn't???
I'm thinking that is a non genuine bowl, it has "AC" cast into its bottom.
Does anyone have a spare which I'm guessing is ~50mm tall and 53mm in diam.
Happy to buy the whole filter assembly if you prefer.
Regards from Oz,
G.S.

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From tminerpcav at aol.com  Thu Nov  1 22:08:39 2007
From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:08:39 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay awareness
In-Reply-To: <002001c81ce8$3455d590$6701a8c0@ACER4230>
References: <8C9EAF95478419D-628-15AF@MBLK-M27.sysops.aol.com>
	<002001c81ce8$3455d590$6701a8c0@ACER4230>
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What an ASSHOLE!? 

Tim


---- Original Message ----
From: Richard Brown <reblues at reblues.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; jrdmf at aol.com
Sent: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay awareness



Here is a link to a discussion of this seller on 311s.org.

http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6825

A few years ago  I bought a windshield from him, theshop62.  He shipped only 
wrapped in bubble wrap & shipping tape.  Of course it arrived busted.  He 
refunded my money and then collected the insurance.  I left positive feed 
back,  my bad, and stated that it could have been packaged better.  He left 
me negative feedback.  My one and only.  Live & learn.  Be warned.

Richard


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jrdmf at aol.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 7:52 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay awareness


> Just a heads up to those of you who rely on ebay for those hard to find or 
> discounted roadster parts. (Who doesn't, right?)
>
> I know this is?a touchy area so I won't?bore you with the?details of how?I 
> got burned but there is an unethical ebay user who occasionally sells 
> Roadster parts?that has already had two user names suspended and is now 
> into his 4th user name in 3 years. (Not sure about you guys but I've had 
> one name in 6 1/2 years and it suits me just fine?) His M.O. is to pump up 
> his feedback by?making purchases of?trivial?items but keeps his sales 
> private (big shock) so as to not let anybody see who his victims are. It's 
> too bad that ebay takes so long to finally make their move but in the mean 
> time everybody needs to be careful because there is no rhyme or reason as 
> to whom he steals from.
>
> His previous and latest names are....
>
> corebuyer40??? (suspended)
> theshop62?????? (suspended)
> nsilva65????????? (changed yesterday)
> sushihouse65? (latest name)
>
> The really sad part is that I believe he is also a member of this list and 
> tends to "beg" parts off of people?with the implication that?he has a 
> roadster and then turns around and sells them. (He pulls that same scam on 
> other automotive?list's too.) I realize there is nothing illegal about 
> scamming people out of parts but there is definitely something "unsavory" 
> about acting like you are an enthusiast just to score free parts?and make 
> a profit.
>
> Not?going?for any type of vindication?here. Just trying to make sure 
> nobody else gets burned.
>
> Jon Frampton
> Huntington Beach
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From 12061997 at comcast.net  Fri Nov  2 10:08:31 2007
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:08:31 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] FW: hello Steve Allen
Message-ID: <110220071708.21232.472B598F000ABF04000052F02205886360C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

-------------- Forwarded Message: -------------- 
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) 
To: 67datroads at 311s.org 
Subject: hello Steve 
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 17:00:51 +0000 

Hi Steve, Bob Ballinger here,I was  e-ing Linda and she said you had moved to Iowa. I am from Moberly Missouri and go back a few times a year. Where are you living? Maybe we could hook up on one of my trips back. I use to be a RR Engineer and had runs from Moberly to Des Moines and from Moberly up the West side to Council Bluffs....Moberly is N Central Missouri about 62 miles south of Kirksville....Hope this finds you well. Thanks for all you do for our little Datsun community....bob, 67-1600 Muncie, IN

From 12061997 at comcast.net  Fri Nov  2 11:10:24 2007
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:10:24 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] msg
Message-ID: <110220071810.18066.472B680F000EB933000046922207002953C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Sorry guys, I  hit the wrong button when writing to Steve...bob

From jrdmf at aol.com  Fri Nov  2 11:46:23 2007
From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:46:23 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay awareness
In-Reply-To: <8C9EB30B762A639-824-6EB1@MBLK-M14.sysops.aol.com>
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The guy lives and performs his handy work from San Bernadino California. I have already received several emails from other ebay users stating they were interested in his auctions but since they saw the warnings on the 311.org site they insisted on a "face to face" transaction. He either ignored their requests or tried to dance around it by claiming to be an upstanding member of the Roadster community. Then his response was that he see's no need to do business face to face. (Kind of hard to pick your pocket when he's right in front of you, eh?) Needless to say, these people checked him out themselves and discovered what a sewer rat he really is which?fortunately saved them a lot of grief.

A very interesting side note to all of this, is this very same guy came begging to this list a few years back for a windshield that he claimed he needed for a car he was putting together. (Which of course was a scam to score free parts.) I had never heard of this guy at the time and I did happen to have a windshield that I didn't need so I gave it to him. (Yes, for free!) Turns out that he sold that windshield to Richard who is also a member of this list and by the time all of the smoke had cleared, Richard ended up receiving negative feedback from this guy too. (File that one under "no good deed goes un-punished".)

Anyway, I'm sure a lot people are probably bored by all of this so anybody that wants more detail can go to the "Threads of shame" section of the 311.org sight.

Jon Frampton
Huntington Beach Ca




-----Original Message-----
From: tminerpcav at aol.com
To: aultgc at jorsm.com; reblues at reblues.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; jrdmf at aol.com
Sent: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay awareness


I'd talk with Jon Frampton (the mark, the kind and trusting mark) and find out what city in SoCal he comes from.? Then I'd require any sale done on Ebay in SoCal be picked up and paid in person? If any seller in SoCal isn't willing to to do a "face to face", it's likely THE ASSHOLE.

For any of you out of the area that can't do a face to face deal, I'd be willing to act as your broker as long as it's not an every day thing.

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From D-SOLOMON at comcast.net  Fri Nov  2 15:18:03 2007
From: D-SOLOMON at comcast.net (D-SOLOMON at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 22:18:03 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay awareness
Message-ID: <110220072218.19771.472BA21B000ACD2400004D3B2209224627B2B1B3B1B4B1ACD3BB@comcast.net>

wow.  That blows!


by the way:  Anyone got a free windsheild for ME?  :-)

Dan

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: jrdmf at aol.com 

> The guy lives and performs his handy work from San Bernadino California. I have 
> already received several emails from other ebay users stating they were 
> interested in his auctions but since they saw the warnings on the 311.org site 
> they insisted on a "face to face" transaction. He either ignored their requests 
> or tried to dance around it by claiming to be an upstanding member of the 
> Roadster community. Then his response was that he see's no need to do business 
> face to face. (Kind of hard to pick your pocket when he's right in front of you, 
> eh?) Needless to say, these people checked him out themselves and discovered 
> what a sewer rat he really is which?fortunately saved them a lot of grief. 
> 
> A very interesting side note to all of this, is this very same guy came begging 
> to this list a few years back for a windshield that he claimed he needed for a 
> car he was putting together. (Which of course was a scam to score free parts.) I 
> had never heard of this guy at the time and I did happen to have a windshield 
> that I didn't need so I gave it to him. (Yes, for free!) Turns out that he sold 
> that windshield to Richard who is also a member of this list and by the time all 
> of the smoke had cleared, Richard ended up receiving negative feedback from this 
> guy too. (File that one under "no good deed goes un-punished".) 
> 
> Anyway, I'm sure a lot people are probably bored by all of this so anybody that 
> wants more detail can go to the "Threads of shame" section of the 311.org sight. 
> 
> Jon Frampton 
> Huntington Beach Ca 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: tminerpcav at aol.com 
> To: aultgc at jorsm.com; reblues at reblues.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; 
> jrdmf at aol.com 
> Sent: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:28 pm 
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay awareness 
> 
> 
> I'd talk with Jon Frampton (the mark, the kind and trusting mark) and find out 
> what city in SoCal he comes from.? Then I'd require any sale done on Ebay in 
> SoCal be picked up and paid in person? If any seller in SoCal isn't willing to 
> to do a "face to face", it's likely THE ASSHOLE. 
> 
> For any of you out of the area that can't do a face to face deal, I'd be willing 
> to act as your broker as long as it's not an every day thing. 
> 
> Tim Miner 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________________________________ 
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From tputland at charter.net  Fri Nov  2 17:18:26 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:18:26 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Topless in November
Message-ID: <20071102201826.66Q48.13745.root@fepweb01>

Wow. What a great day. Mid 50s and sunny. I had to take drive. (topless as I refuse to carry the top!) Still found some fall colour around here which really surprised me. Great to see the looks from people who have never seen one of our style cars before--and even better when they see me in shorts, T-shirt and barefoot in November! Bring on the snow as I love the cold. Too bad the wife doesn't agree with my love of the cold! 

Happy fall all!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Fri Nov  2 18:24:39 2007
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:24:39 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Topless in November
In-Reply-To: <20071102201826.66Q48.13745.root@fepweb01>
References: <20071102201826.66Q48.13745.root@fepweb01>
Message-ID: <8C9EBCF702558C8-7B8-6554@MBLK-D29.sysops.aol.com>

 How about a link to some Fall colors for those of us stuck in the dry, burned, windy, Southwest?
Just a thought...

Linda
Los Angeles
more Santa Ana winds on the way----------


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: tputland at charter.net
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 5:18 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Topless in November










Wow. What a great day. Mid 50s and sunny. I had to take drive. (topless as I 
refuse to carry the top!) Still found some fall colour around here which really 
surprised me. Great to see the looks from people who have never seen one of our 
style cars before--and even better when they see me in shorts, T-shirt and 
barefoot in November! Bring on the snow as I love the cold. Too bad the wife 
doesn't agree with my love of the cold! 

Happy fall all!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning
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From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com  Fri Nov  2 18:31:46 2007
From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:31:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] free parts roadsters in Virginia: $4.50 per hundred
 weight
In-Reply-To: <005601c81c9a$a21b7970$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4>
Message-ID: <BAY109-F38C43C27A4955031ACDBB0BF8E0@phx.gbl>

For All,

I just took a door and fender from a 99 Escort to my local scrap yard.  They 
are paying $4.50 per hundred pounds for generic scrap steel.  (Located in 
Chesapeake Virginia, Military Highway and the Elizabeth River is where this 
place is)....

So, for Craig's offer, if you carefully removed any good ball joints, 
steering boxes, and other good bits from a junk roadster, and ended up with 
say 1,000 pounds left out of the original #2000, if you picked one up with 
no drivetrain, you would still put $45 in your pocket.

Sounds like a workable deal for anyone reasonably close to Craig and a good 
scrap yard.  If you could stack about 2 or 3 hulks on a big trailer so as to 
minimize fuel cost it would be even better.

Certainly not a way to get rich, but at least you would put a few dollars in 
your pocket and hellp Craig.  Remember to drain out all fluids and dispose 
of the tires somewhere else.

Just my two cents!
Jim

>From: "Craig Halsted" <chalsted at comcast.net>
>To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Roadsters] free parts roadsters in Virginia
>Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:19:40 -0500
>
>I have a need to get some of the clutter out of here- have about a dozen
>roadsters I'd literally give away, most have no drivetrains and are rusty,
>but most are rollers with steering and suspension bits and still with
>differentials in them. if you just wanted to strip one out and take it to
>the local salvage yard, that's a possibility too. a couple 1600's still 
>have
>drivetrains in them. I'm near Front Royal Va. also near where 66 out of DC
>runs into 81 north-south. send me an e-mail if interested
>
>Craig
>________________________________________

From heyace at cox.net  Fri Nov  2 19:31:39 2007
From: heyace at cox.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:31:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 5sd tranny
Message-ID: <010901c81dc1$a9e1a490$f9650744@coach>

Anyone got an extra 5sp tranny.  I want to get one either rebuilt or one that
I can rebuild.  I need to swap mine out and I would like to have one "ready to
install"  so I can make it a one day job.
I am in So Cal the closer to San Diego the better.

Thanks!

Paul

From JRDMF at aol.com  Fri Nov  2 19:51:46 2007
From: JRDMF at aol.com (JRDMF at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:51:46 EDT
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:  ebay awareness
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The guy?was very careful not to sign his real name to any correspondence (should have been a clue, eh?) but fortunately when you pay someone through paypal they will give you the personal information on the account. The guy who tagged me?on ebay and scammed me for the windshield?is Joseph Silva but the name on?his ebay account is Noemi Silva. The paypal account is in the name of Patricia Silva whom I also pleaded with to make this right but got no response. 

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To: jrdmf at aol.com
Sent: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 10:56 am
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hey jon
do you know the guy's name?
steve
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From tminerpcav at aol.com  Fri Nov  2 20:57:12 2007
From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:57:12 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:  ebay awareness
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Hey Jon,



These are the famous "Slimy Silvas" of San Bernardino. It's kind of a "family affair" thing.

Tim?


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The guy?was very careful not to sign his real name to any correspondence (should 
have been a clue, eh?) but fortunately when you pay someone through paypal they 
will give you the personal information on the account. The guy who tagged me?on 
ebay and scammed me for the windshield?is Joseph Silva but the name on?his ebay 
account is Noemi Silva. The paypal account is in the name of Patricia Silva whom 
I also pleaded with to make this right but got no response. 

Jon


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To: jrdmf at aol.com
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hey jon
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steve
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Sat Nov  3 02:58:56 2007
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 05:58:56 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Upper ball joints
Message-ID: <E1IoFm8-0005kp-E1@elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi all who replied,

I have offered them to the person who first replied. If he decides he
doesn't actually need them, I'll work my way down my list of replies.

Thanks all!

Matt

From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com  Sat Nov  3 04:44:14 2007
From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia)
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 06:44:14 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: ebay awareness: Silva the poopheads empire draws
 to a close
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For all:
Looks like this guy is done as far as scamming roadster owners goes, at 
least in our group.
Too bad he lives in California.  Here in Virginia, we might give him other 
more up front reasons to quit his deceptive ways.

Best Regards,
Jim
Chesapeake Virginia

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>The guy?was very careful not to sign his real name to any correspondence 
>(should have been a clue, eh?) but fortunately when you pay someone through 
>paypal they will give you the personal information on the account. The guy 
>who tagged me?on ebay and scammed me for the windshield?is Joseph Silva but 
>the name on?his ebay account is Noemi Silva. The paypal account is in the 
>name of Patricia Silva whom I also pleaded with to make this right but got 
>no response.
>
>Jon

From tputland at charter.net  Sat Nov  3 09:09:30 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 9:09:30 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Topless in November and some fall colour shots
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Message-ID: <20071103120930.MWD2O.14164.root@fepweb03>

>  How about a link to some Fall colors for those of us stuck in the dry, burned, windy, Southwest?

Here you go Linda. Enjoy!

http://www.discoverwisconsin.com/dw_choices/?list=eca3029bc3f0



Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From tputland at charter.net  Sat Nov  3 09:40:51 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 9:40:51 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel
Message-ID: <20071103124051.VEKZF.15114.root@fepweb03>

Hi all. 

I am looking for some thoughts on steering wheel cleaning and or restoring. I have not looked on the 311.org site as I cannot figure out how to use the search--some sort of dumbass operator error on my part. Pete, you can probably learn me as to how to properly use the search--contact me off list please.

Does anyone have a good way to fill in the cracks and splits that occurs on most every Roadster steering wheel? Something that looks nice and clean? I have a nice shiny one but it has a few cracked spots. 

Also, what, if anything, have people used to clean a steering wheel? I have one that is fairly solid, but very dingy and dull.

If wrapping is the only real good solution, then what is the best product?

Thanks all.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat Nov  3 09:52:41 2007
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:52:41 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel
In-Reply-To: <20071103124051.VEKZF.15114.root@fepweb03>
Message-ID: <000d01c81e39$f3585240$6501a8c0@xp>

I asked the same question a while back, and Eastwood's Wheel Restoration
products were recommended.

1. Go to Eastwood's website: <http://www.eastwoodco.com/>
2. Enter "steering wheel" (without the quotes) in the Search box to the
right of the Eastwood logo.
3. Click "Search" and you'll get a number of their various steering wheel
products.

I haven't tried the stuff myself yet.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of tputland at charter.net
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:41 AM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel


Hi all. 

I am looking for some thoughts on steering wheel cleaning and or restoring.
I have not looked on the 311.org site as I cannot figure out how to use the
search--some sort of dumbass operator error on my part. Pete, you can
probably learn me as to how to properly use the search--contact me off list
please.

Does anyone have a good way to fill in the cracks and splits that occurs on
most every Roadster steering wheel? Something that looks nice and clean? I
have a nice shiny one but it has a few cracked spots. 

Also, what, if anything, have people used to clean a steering wheel? I have
one that is fairly solid, but very dingy and dull.

If wrapping is the only real good solution, then what is the best product?

Thanks all.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning ________________________________________

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From mtyler at hctc.net  Sat Nov  3 10:35:43 2007
From: mtyler at hctc.net (Marc&Heidi)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:35:43 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel
In-Reply-To: <000d01c81e39$f3585240$6501a8c0@xp>
References: <000d01c81e39$f3585240$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <CC5C0046-4C8A-41F5-8105-C471C36C7635@hctc.net>

Th eastwood kit, like the POR 15 kit use an epoxy putty for a  
filler.  I used the eastwood kit on my 320 steering wheel, and it has  
begun to crack again after about a year.  As far as I can tell, the  
epoxy putty A: does not particularly bond with the plastic the wheel  
is made of, and B: expands and contracts at  a different rate.
	
The roadster wheels (at least the late ones, just have a plastic grip  
(perimeter) with paired wire spokes and plastic inserts between the  
pairs of spokes.  The grip part of my wheel has cracked as well, but  
it's covered up by the leater wrap.  I think I got it from Wheelskins.




On Nov 3, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Pete Peters wrote:

> I asked the same question a while back, and Eastwood's Wheel  
> Restoration
> products were recommended.
>
> 1. Go to Eastwood's website: <http://www.eastwoodco.com/>
> 2. Enter "steering wheel" (without the quotes) in the Search box to  
> the
> right of the Eastwood logo.
> 3. Click "Search" and you'll get a number of their various steering  
> wheel
> products.
>
> I haven't tried the stuff myself yet.
>
> Pete

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Sat Nov  3 10:59:47 2007
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:59:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] LA area craigslist new ads, 10/03
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D1BB474@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Saw these ads show up today, no connection with seller.  The green one
looks nice for a $1500 runner.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/ant/car/467473010.html

This one might be a parts car, might be a "barn find", who knows, who
feels brave?
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/car/466722154.html

And the story of this typical "was running when dismantled" example is
the reason I am afraid to tear into my car, given my current load at
work and home-front duties.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/car/461784094.html

From roadster68 at shaw.ca  Sat Nov  3 11:46:26 2007
From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba)
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:46:26 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 68 Convertible Top - Rubber/foam Seal
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D1BB474@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <000701c81e49$d74c0af0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp>

Hello Listers,  I need your help in positioning the rubber seal piece that 
sits on the bottom side of the bow.  Car was recently restored.  My new seal 
piece came from one of our vendors.  It is slightly tapered at one edge & 
thicker (~1/2") at the other edge.  It looks like a guy may have to tighten 
down the front latches a bit at a time, over time since it is so thick.  I 
am going to use some sort of silicone sealant.  Do I assume the thinner edge 
faces foreward?  Also, should the seal  be postioned as far forward or 
backwards as possible?  TIA!  Larry. 

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sat Nov  3 13:12:16 2007
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:12:16 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel
In-Reply-To: <20071103124051.VEKZF.15114.root@fepweb03>
References: <20071103124051.VEKZF.15114.root@fepweb03>
Message-ID: <8C9EC6CF6F815BB-700-3A80@FWM-M03.sysops.aol.com>

 I sanded my 68 stock wheel with 400 and 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper and then shot it with a clear coat. It is the same process to shine up the shifter and Ebrake handle. Definitely looks better but I got a few runs so I have to redo that part. I didn't use any filler as the cracks are small and I didn't know what to use anyway.

Linda


 


 

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From: tputland at charter.net
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 9:40 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel










Hi all. 

I am looking for some thoughts on steering wheel cleaning and or restoring. I 
have not looked on the 311.org site as I cannot figure out how to use the 
search--some sort of dumbass operator error on my part. Pete, you can probably 
learn me as to how to properly use the search--contact me off list please.

Does anyone have a good way to fill in the cracks and splits that occurs on most 
every Roadster steering wheel? Something that looks nice and clean? I have a 
nice shiny one but it has a few cracked spots. 

Also, what, if anything, have people used to clean a steering wheel? I have one 
that is fairly solid, but very dingy and dull.

If wrapping is the only real good solution, then what is the best product?

Thanks all.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning
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From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  3 15:57:49 2007
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 22:57:49 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <BLU106-W47E2F637CE49C972FEFD03B58E0@phx.gbl>

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From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  3 16:00:52 2007
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:00:52 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadsters in VintageAuto Magazine!
Message-ID: <BLU106-W22092ED2C59C5696EFB1D0B58E0@phx.gbl>

Vic you are my hero!!! When I was at JCCS in October Vic showed me a Japanese
magazine that covered the MotoringJStyle show back in August. He said my
roadster was in it! I didn't believe him. Flipping through the pages they
actually had a whole section just for Datsuns... I got about 10 copies for
friends and took pics.  Some featured roadsters/cars were:
Jeff Torres' '66http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2108260460102308741KdFjdv
Mo Munaf's SR20 '67http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2784744060102308741vSDqEX

My SR '67.6
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2128546540102308741HkvkdF

Rob Fuller's RB25DET Skyline-powered
240z:http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2343686680102308741ggTcNa
And check the cover out, a drawing of Jeff's roadster!
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2365186290102308741SejTXc

The magazine is filled with cool/weird stuff like this roadster sketch:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2789480040102308741ycmUPx

And this SR20-powered 521 wagon from Japan!

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2272377360102308741GUmlqXAlvin GogineniSan
Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20
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From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  3 16:39:00 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 16:39:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Roadsters] steering wheel restoration
Message-ID: <323737.85472.qm@web53512.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I came across this  VW site a while ago. I have not tried it, but it's a good "how to" site.  Recommends POR 15 Epoxy.  Check it out!
http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqstrg.htm
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat Nov  3 17:23:00 2007
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 17:23:00 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] steering wheel restoration
In-Reply-To: <323737.85472.qm@web53512.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c81e78$de9b2f00$6501a8c0@xp>

WOW! What an excellent article. Thanks for sharing.

                    `  ___  '   
Pete               -  (O o)  -  
------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo----
Lake Forest Park, WA
1966 1600 SPL311
1966 L20B WPL411

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Patti Dwinell
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 4:39 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] steering wheel restoration


I came across this  VW site a while ago. I have not tried it, but it's a
good "how to" site.  Recommends POR 15 Epoxy.  Check it out!
http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqstrg.htm
Patti

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sat Nov  3 19:41:47 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:41:47 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Trim Screw Holes getting larger
Message-ID: <BAY106-F40827EBAA6C9C7ACE143C1DF8F0@phx.gbl>

I recently had a whole bunch of stuff anodized (?) chromed (like the cowl) 
and when trying to refit (with consistent screw sizes) found that some of 
the holes were too large to take the smaller screw. So I filled up the holes 
with JBWeld - left them for the appropriate time and then redrilled them. To 
save pressure, I also positioned small rubber washers using an emery glue 
stick and tightened cautiously.
The  only caution is that JBWeld has a tendency to crack in this 
application, so make sure you fill the hole completely and drill the holes 
to an appropriate size rather than letting the screw tap itself.

FWIW

Peter
1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sat Nov  3 20:42:58 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 23:42:58 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Steering wheel
In-Reply-To: <000d01c81e39$f3585240$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <000b01c81e94$cd34c5c0$3800000a@chrissy>

Another great option is to repair any cracks with an epoxy,sand smooth and
then order a sew on leather cover.  Victoria British sells a nice one, about
$20.00, looks factory when done.  Look under MGA.

From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Sun Nov  4 05:47:06 2007
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 07:47:06 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
Message-ID: <001001c81ee0$cf94eb50$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>

Hi List,



I am restoring a recently acquired 1970 SRL311.  The factory soft top canvas
is in excellent condition but the windows are cooked (dried out, red/black
in color). Has anyone attempted to just replace the windows?



There doesn't seem to be an easy way to replace them except for removing the
back canvas panel at the seam. If that's the case, I think I would be better
off by just getting a replacement top from a vendor (unless anyone has a
black one they would like to sell). I would love to have the original top on
the car. I do have the factory tonneau cover - it needs a couple of patches
and the zipper re-sewn.



Like most of you, I never drive with the top up  although I do enjoy trying
to keep my cars as close to original as I can.



Thanks,



Joe

1970 SPL311 (U20 mod)

1970 SRL311 (numbers matching)

1971 PL510 (L18 SSS)

1972 HLS30 (numbers matching)

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sun Nov  4 08:09:04 2007
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 10:09:04 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
In-Reply-To: <001001c81ee0$cf94eb50$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
References: <001001c81ee0$cf94eb50$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
Message-ID: <8C9ED0BC6438E7A-26C-4980@WEBMAIL-MC15.sysops.aol.com>

 Joe,
You might try one of the vinyl window restore products just to see if the window can be fixed. I was surprised how well it worked, I think it was Blue Magic, something like that specifically for windows.

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Russo <jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 4:47 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?










Hi List,



I am restoring a recently acquired 1970 SRL311.  The factory soft top canvas
is in excellent condition but the windows are cooked (dried out, red/black
in color). Has anyone attempted to just replace the windows?



There doesn't seem to be an easy way to replace them except for removing the
back canvas panel at the seam. If that's the case, I think I would be better
off by just getting a replacement top from a vendor (unless anyone has a
black one they would like to sell). I would love to have the original top on
the car. I do have the factory tonneau cover - it needs a couple of patches
and the zipper re-sewn.



Like most of you, I never drive with the top up  although I do enjoy trying
to keep my cars as close to original as I can.



Thanks,



Joe

1970 SPL311 (U20 mod)

1970 SRL311 (numbers matching)

1971 PL510 (L18 SSS)

1972 HLS30 (numbers matching)
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From slowboy at cox.net  Sun Nov  4 10:56:07 2007
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:56:07 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 SPL
Message-ID: <000601c81f0b$fa0ce6f0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n>

Unlike the low windshield 66 that I have completely disassembled, the 70 1600
is still together which leads to the questions.

The electrical schematic representation of the hazard flasher I am looking at
is a tad confusing.

On the kick panel there is a silver and gold can. My guess would be one for
the turn signal flashers and one for the hazard flashers. Each has the
standard two connections on the can.

The schematics (I have three different styles) show two seperate cans each
with two terminals for the hazard flashers.

Can somone explain that to me? Are there two cans for the hazard flashers?
Where are all the flasher type cans located?

Thank you!

Jim

From slowboy at cox.net  Sun Nov  4 11:13:04 2007
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:13:04 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Model Years  67 68 69 70
Message-ID: <000d01c81f0e$587d77c0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n>

I have seen the Introduction of New Datsun Sports Car Series Service Bulletins
for 67, 68, and 69 models.

Feb 67 Vol 76 is for 1967 with the U20

Oct 67 Vol 87 is for 1968

Sept 68 Vol 98 is for 1969

Has anyone seen this type of service bulletin for the 1970 model year?

While I am thinking about it, has anyone seen the same type of bulletin for
the 66 model year and the 67 without the U-20?

Did Nissan put out bulletins for those models?

Thank you!

Jim

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  4 11:32:04 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:32:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] steering wheel restoration
Message-ID: <101111.23727.qm@web53512.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Pete,
Glad you liked it!  I love seeing pictures in "how to" articles. I find them so much more helpful than just text instructions.
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From slowboy at cox.net  Sun Nov  4 11:33:48 2007
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:33:48 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Model Years  67 68 69 70
References: <000d01c81f0e$587d77c0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n>
Message-ID: <001801c81f11$3dd78a20$0301a8c0@PCm7170n>

I might pose an answer to the 1970 SPL schematic but it brings up another 
question.

I didn't think the 1969 SPL schematic would be too much different so I 
checked it against the 1970.

The one flasher can with the two GY wires in the 70 schematic appears to 
share the hazard flasher name with the can above it. In the 1969 schematic 
the can with the GY wires has the name Stop SW and is wired just like the 
1970.

I thought that Stop SW might be the switch on the brake pedal and if it is, 
what is the Brake Indicator SW for?

Thanks!

Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "SlowBoy" <slowboy at cox.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Model Years 67 68 69 70


>I have seen the Introduction of New Datsun Sports Car Series Service 
>Bulletins
> for 67, 68, and 69 models.
>
> Feb 67 Vol 76 is for 1967 with the U20
>
> Oct 67 Vol 87 is for 1968
>
> Sept 68 Vol 98 is for 1969
>
> Has anyone seen this type of service bulletin for the 1970 model year?
>
> While I am thinking about it, has anyone seen the same type of bulletin 
> for
> the 66 model year and the 67 without the U-20?
>
> Did Nissan put out bulletins for those models?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jim

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  4 11:44:47 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:44:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] window replacement
Message-ID: <650410.98098.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

My windows are soft and flexible, not hard plexi-glass, but  I've had them replaced a couple of times by an auto upholstery shop. No need to disassemble the top, they just removed the old and sew in  new windows.
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From slowboy at cox.net  Sun Nov  4 11:46:06 2007
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:46:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 SPL
References: <000601c81f0b$fa0ce6f0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n>
Message-ID: <002901c81f12$f5a89e40$0301a8c0@PCm7170n>

I told you all I was a Tad confused. I attached the answer below to the 
wrong thread. hehehehe

I might pose an answer to the 1970 SPL schematic but it brings up another
question.

I didn't think the 1969 SPL schematic would be too much different so I
checked it against the 1970.

The one flasher can with the two GY wires in the 70 schematic appears to
share the hazard flasher name with the can above it. In the 1969 schematic
the can with the GY wires has the name Stop SW and is wired just like the
1970.

I thought that Stop SW might be the switch on the brake pedal and if it is,
what is the Brake Indicator SW for?

Thanks!

Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "SlowBoy" <slowboy at cox.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 SPL


> Unlike the low windshield 66 that I have completely disassembled, the 70 
> 1600
> is still together which leads to the questions.
>
> The electrical schematic representation of the hazard flasher I am looking 
> at
> is a tad confusing.
>
> On the kick panel there is a silver and gold can. My guess would be one 
> for
> the turn signal flashers and one for the hazard flashers. Each has the
> standard two connections on the can.
>
> The schematics (I have three different styles) show two seperate cans each
> with two terminals for the hazard flashers.
>
> Can somone explain that to me? Are there two cans for the hazard flashers?
> Where are all the flasher type cans located?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jim
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From aultgc at jorsm.com  Sun Nov  4 12:09:33 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:09:33 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: ebay awareness: Silva the poopheads empire
 draws to a close
References: <BAY109-F24DB233860A88B00367BB4BF8E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001301c81f16$3cfc2c00$0ba0aa42@gaxp1>

Better yet, too bad they don't live in Texas.  Didn't Texas decide that "He 
needed killin'" was a legitimate dfense?

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim InVirginia" <nqrithfordatsun at msn.com>
To: <JRDMF at aol.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:44 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: ebay awareness: Silva the poopheads empire draws 
to a close


> For all:
> Looks like this guy is done as far as scamming roadster owners goes, at
> least in our group.
> Too bad he lives in California.  Here in Virginia, we might give him other
> more up front reasons to quit his deceptive ways.
>
> Best Regards,
> Jim
> Chesapeake Virginia
>
>>From: JRDMF at aol.com
>>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:  ebay awareness
>>Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:51:46 EDT
>>
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>>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] ebay awareness
>>Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:09:25 -0400
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>>The guy?was very careful not to sign his real name to any correspondence
>>(should have been a clue, eh?) but fortunately when you pay someone 
>>through
>>paypal they will give you the personal information on the account. The guy
>>who tagged me?on ebay and scammed me for the windshield?is Joseph Silva 
>>but
>>the name on?his ebay account is Noemi Silva. The paypal account is in the
>>name of Patricia Silva whom I also pleaded with to make this right but got
>>no response.
>>
>>Jon
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From aultgc at jorsm.com  Sun Nov  4 12:28:59 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:28:59 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
References: <001001c81ee0$cf94eb50$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
Message-ID: <006501c81f18$f47a6fc0$0ba0aa42@gaxp1>

Joe,

I don't know where you live, but somewhere reasonably close there should be 
a good trim shop.  (Marine shops sometimes do convertible tops, but list 
themselves in the "Marine" category.)  The can replace the plastic.  Some 
will replace the sewn-in window with a zip-in window.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Russo" <jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:47 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?


> Hi List,
>
>
>
> I am restoring a recently acquired 1970 SRL311.  The factory soft top 
> canvas
> is in excellent condition but the windows are cooked (dried out, red/black
> in color). Has anyone attempted to just replace the windows?
>
>
>
> There doesn't seem to be an easy way to replace them except for removing 
> the
> back canvas panel at the seam. If that's the case, I think I would be 
> better
> off by just getting a replacement top from a vendor (unless anyone has a
> black one they would like to sell). I would love to have the original top 
> on
> the car. I do have the factory tonneau cover - it needs a couple of 
> patches
> and the zipper re-sewn.
>
>
>
> Like most of you, I never drive with the top up  although I do enjoy 
> trying
> to keep my cars as close to original as I can.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> 1970 SPL311 (U20 mod)
>
> 1970 SRL311 (numbers matching)
>
> 1971 PL510 (L18 SSS)
>
> 1972 HLS30 (numbers matching)
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From john at roper-photo.com  Sun Nov  4 12:47:59 2007
From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:47:59 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: ebay awareness: Silva the poopheads
 empiredraws to a close
In-Reply-To: <001301c81f16$3cfc2c00$0ba0aa42@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <472E231D.674A.7316@pop.directnic.com>

>Better yet, too bad they don't live in Texas.  Didn't Texas decide 
>that "He needed killin'" was a legitimate defense?

Oh yeah, quote some time ago actually...   ;^)

From john at roper-photo.com  Sun Nov  4 12:51:56 2007
From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 13:51:56 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: ebay awareness: Silva the poopheadsempiredraws
 to a close
In-Reply-To: <472E231D.674A.7316@pop.directnic.com>
Message-ID: <472E240D.58FD2.CF3@pop.directnic.com>

That should say "quite", not "quote".

>Better yet, too bad they don't live in Texas.  Didn't Texas decide 
>that "He needed killin'" was a legitimate defense?

Oh yeah, quote some time ago actually...   ;^)
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sun Nov  4 14:26:29 2007
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:26:29 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
In-Reply-To: <006501c81f18$f47a6fc0$0ba0aa42@gaxp1>
References: <001001c81ee0$cf94eb50$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
	<006501c81f18$f47a6fc0$0ba0aa42@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <D8E38CBDA1074AA294B1FB8444DF3C72@garage.local>

highly recommend the zip in window

> I don't know where you live, but somewhere reasonably close there should 
> be
> a good trim shop.  (Marine shops sometimes do convertible tops, but list
> themselves in the "Marine" category.)  The can replace the plastic.  Some
> will replace the sewn-in window with a zip-in window.
>
> Gary Ault

From dhyson at charter.net  Sun Nov  4 14:52:29 2007
From: dhyson at charter.net (Durf & Sue Hyson)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:52:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re: Fwd: ebay awareness: Silva the
 poopheadsempiredraws to a close]
Message-ID: <472E3F1D.5080608@charter.net>

-

	

	

	

	

	



I have been following this thread and it has made me wonder....  Is 
killin good enough ?   It almost seems like an insufficient amount of 
sufferin.  Hasn't anyone on this list got an ex "significant other" we 
could give him ?   That way the pain could go on and on , and on , and 
on , and on , and on , and on , and on , and on , and on , and on 
.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Durf

John Roper wrote:

>That should say "quite", not "quote".
>
>  
>
>>Better yet, too bad they don't live in Texas.  Didn't Texas decide 
>>that "He needed killin'" was a legitimate defense?

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sun Nov  4 15:33:00 2007
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:33:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
In-Reply-To: <D8E38CBDA1074AA294B1FB8444DF3C72@garage.local>
References: <001001c81ee0$cf94eb50$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
	<006501c81f18$f47a6fc0$0ba0aa42@gaxp1>
	<D8E38CBDA1074AA294B1FB8444DF3C72@garage.local>
Message-ID: <8C9ED49CA93F5AA-CB0-2D8B@WEBMAIL-MB20.sysops.aol.com>

 Is the zip in window easier to replace once that one goes also? 
Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 1:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?










highly recommend the zip in window

> I don't know where you live, but somewhere reasonably close there should 
> be
> a good trim shop.  (Marine shops sometimes do convertible tops, but list
> themselves in the "Marine" category.)  The can replace the plastic.  Some
> will replace the sewn-in window with a zip-in window.
>
> Gary Ault
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From john at roper-photo.com  Sun Nov  4 15:43:03 2007
From: john at roper-photo.com (John Roper)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 16:43:03 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
In-Reply-To: <8C9ED49CA93F5AA-CB0-2D8B@WEBMAIL-MB20.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <472E4C25.E1263.324A@pop.directnic.com>

>Is the zip in window easier to replace once that one goes also? 

Yes. Very much so.
 
5 minutes in your garage, versus a couple of days at the upholstery shop.

From graemes at internode.on.net  Sun Nov  4 16:11:03 2007
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 09:41:03 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 SPL
In-Reply-To: <002901c81f12$f5a89e40$0301a8c0@PCm7170n>
References: <000601c81f0b$fa0ce6f0$0301a8c0@PCm7170n>
	<002901c81f12$f5a89e40$0301a8c0@PCm7170n>
Message-ID: <000c01c81f37$f98f0060$426fa8c0@desktop>

Hi Jim,
The "brake switch" is usually the pedal switch to operate the rear brake
lamps.
The "brake indicator " switch is a hydraulic sensor [on my '65 SP310
anyway].
This will light up the brake lamp warning lamp if the hydraulic lines for
the brakes lose pressure. 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+graemes=internode.on.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+graemes=internode.on.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of SlowBoy
Sent: Monday, 5 November 2007 5:16 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 1970 SPL

I told you all I was a Tad confused. I attached the answer below to the
wrong thread. hehehehe

I might pose an answer to the 1970 SPL schematic but it brings up another
question.

I didn't think the 1969 SPL schematic would be too much different so I
checked it against the 1970.

The one flasher can with the two GY wires in the 70 schematic appears to
share the hazard flasher name with the can above it. In the 1969 schematic
the can with the GY wires has the name Stop SW and is wired just like the
1970.

I thought that Stop SW might be the switch on the brake pedal and if it is,
what is the Brake Indicator SW for?

Thanks!

Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "SlowBoy" <slowboy at cox.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 SPL


> Unlike the low windshield 66 that I have completely disassembled, the 70 
> 1600
> is still together which leads to the questions.
>
> The electrical schematic representation of the hazard flasher I am looking

> at
> is a tad confusing.
>
> On the kick panel there is a silver and gold can. My guess would be one 
> for
> the turn signal flashers and one for the hazard flashers. Each has the
> standard two connections on the can.
>
> The schematics (I have three different styles) show two seperate cans each
> with two terminals for the hazard flashers.
>
> Can somone explain that to me? Are there two cans for the hazard flashers?
> Where are all the flasher type cans located?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Jim
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>
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From tminerpcav at aol.com  Sun Nov  4 17:47:45 2007
From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:47:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Topless in November and some fall colour shots
In-Reply-To: <20071103120930.MWD2O.14164.root@fepweb03>
Message-ID: <8C9ED5C9D3B31B5-7EC-31A0@mblk-d32.sysops.aol.com>

Hey Tim,



Could you send me some links of you two going around topless?



Tim Miner 


---- Original Message ----
From: tputland at charter.net
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 9:09 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Topless in November and some fall colour shots




>  How about a link to some Fall colors for those of us stuck in the dry, 
burned, windy, Southwest?

Here you go Linda. Enjoy!

http://www.discoverwisconsin.com/dw_choices/?list=eca3029bc3f0



Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Sun Nov  4 18:09:11 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 19:09:11 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] steering wheel restoration
In-Reply-To: <101111.23727.qm@web53512.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <JBEKJICFFOFCBHHGLNFDAEEHDAAA.andycost@embarqmail.com>

Too wierd.  I once had an administrative assistant named Patti Dwinell.  She
wasn't particulary mecanically inclined though.

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+andycost=embarqmail.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+andycost=embarqmail.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Patti Dwinell
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 12:32 PM
To: posting messages to all on list
Subject: [Roadsters] steering wheel restoration


Pete,
Glad you liked it!  I love seeing pictures in "how to" articles. I find them
so much more helpful than just text instructions.
Patti
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From jones_barton at msn.com  Sun Nov  4 18:37:27 2007
From: jones_barton at msn.com (Jones Barton)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:37:27 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Horn Button Removal
Message-ID: <BAY103-F2956D00864D7A82B836B0BE3880@phx.gbl>

Hi Everyone,

I should sit amongst the ashes. I forgot the trick to removing the horn 
button.  Would like to fix my turn signals tonight, anyone remeber the 
trick.


Jones Barton
1669 1600
Steilacoom WA

From joek at camberconstruction.com  Sun Nov  4 18:47:02 2007
From: joek at camberconstruction.com (Joe Kinstle)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 17:47:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Horn Button Removal
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F2956D00864D7A82B836B0BE3880@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200711050147.lA51l42B000753@flpi185.prodigy.net>

Push and turn.  I like to unhook the battery first myself, but that is up to
you.

Joe Kinstle
'68 2L
BLK SRL
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+joek=camberconstruction.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Jones Barton
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:37 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Horn Button Removal

Hi Everyone,

I should sit amongst the ashes. I forgot the trick to removing the horn 
button.  Would like to fix my turn signals tonight, anyone remeber the 
trick.


Jones Barton
1669 1600
Steilacoom WA
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From konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com  Sun Nov  4 18:49:16 2007
From: konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com (David R. Conrad)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 15:49:16 -1000
Subject: [Roadsters] Horn Button Removal
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-F2956D00864D7A82B836B0BE3880@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <513A100C-8B41-11DC-995D-000A27DC00A0@hawaii.rr.com>

Push button in and rotate CCW.

Dave

On Sunday, November 4, 2007, at 03:37 PM, Jones Barton wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I should sit amongst the ashes. I forgot the trick to removing the horn
> button.  Would like to fix my turn signals tonight, anyone remeber the
> trick.
>
>
> Jones Barton
> 1669 1600
> Steilacoom WA
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From mark at dealermats.com  Sun Nov  4 18:53:08 2007
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 20:53:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Horn Button Removal
References: <BAY103-F2956D00864D7A82B836B0BE3880@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000c01c81f4e$9d39cc20$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>

On a 1969 1600 it is push in and turn left.  As for the 1669 1600 on your 
signature, I have no idea :)

Mark
----- Original Message ----- 
>
> Jones Barton
> 1669 1600
> Steilacoom WA 

From aultgc at jorsm.com  Sun Nov  4 20:31:06 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 21:31:06 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
References: <001001c81ee0$cf94eb50$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR><006501c81f18$f47a6fc0$0ba0aa42@gaxp1><D8E38CBDA1074AA294B1FB8444DF3C72@garage.local>
	<8C9ED49CA93F5AA-CB0-2D8B@WEBMAIL-MB20.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <004e01c81f5c$4de2a350$15a0aa42@gaxp1>

Probably not, but being able to zip it out will make care for it easier, so 
it should last longer.

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
To: <sumton at sbcglobal.net>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?


> Is the zip in window easier to replace once that one goes also?
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 1:26 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> highly recommend the zip in window
>
>> I don't know where you live, but somewhere reasonably close there should
>> be
>> a good trim shop.  (Marine shops sometimes do convertible tops, but list
>> themselves in the "Marine" category.)  The can replace the plastic.  Some
>> will replace the sewn-in window with a zip-in window.
>>
>> Gary Ault
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From leehinger at verizon.net  Mon Nov  5 06:32:28 2007
From: leehinger at verizon.net (Lee Ehinger)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 08:32:28 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
In-Reply-To: <001001c81ee0$cf94eb50$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
Message-ID: <001b01c81fb0$4fe4a9b0$0301a8c0@ehinger1>

Joe - years ago I took my 67 top to a local upholstery shop & had them cut
out the old window & they sewed in new clear plastic - worked werll for a
college kid with little/ no money... Still have the top on the car...

Lee Ehinger
Ft Wayne IN

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+leehinger=verizon.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Joe Russo
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 7:47 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?

Hi List,



I am restoring a recently acquired 1970 SRL311.  The factory soft top canvas
is in excellent condition but the windows are cooked (dried out, red/black
in color). Has anyone attempted to just replace the windows?



There doesn't seem to be an easy way to replace them except for removing the
back canvas panel at the seam. If that's the case, I think I would be better
off by just getting a replacement top from a vendor (unless anyone has a
black one they would like to sell). I would love to have the original top on
the car. I do have the factory tonneau cover - it needs a couple of patches
and the zipper re-sewn.



Like most of you, I never drive with the top up  although I do enjoy trying
to keep my cars as close to original as I can.



Thanks,



Joe

1970 SPL311 (U20 mod)

1970 SRL311 (numbers matching)

1971 PL510 (L18 SSS)

1972 HLS30 (numbers matching)
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From tputland at charter.net  Mon Nov  5 07:11:44 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 6:11:44 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] steering wheel restoration
In-Reply-To: <323737.85472.qm@web53512.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20071105091144.VJVR5.184142.root@mp20>

Thanks Patti. I will need to check this site out at home as my work has blocked access to it for some reason--and it is a .org site. Oh well, state goverment, what can you do?

PEACE :-)

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

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> http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqstrg.htm
> Patti
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From 12061997 at comcast.net  Mon Nov  5 09:56:11 2007
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:56:11 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
Message-ID: <110520071656.3316.472F4B2A000EB59400000CF42213539653C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi list,  Ready for a little paint here. My question, is there anyway to remove the door handles without removing the window?..bob 67-1600, muncie,in

From geegc at aol.com  Mon Nov  5 11:20:44 2007
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:20:44 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <110520071656.3316.472F4B2A000EB59400000CF42213539653C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>
References: <110520071656.3316.472F4B2A000EB59400000CF42213539653C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8C9EDEFB6CD3D3F-B34-1BFD@webmailbeta-m03.sysops.aol.com>

yes, at least on my 66, just need small hands and a magnet to pick up the nuts when they fall to the bottom of the door

Gary


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana <12061997 at comcast.net>
To: datsun list datsun <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 8:56 am
Subject: [Roadsters] (no subject)



Hi list,  Ready for a little paint here. My question, is there anyway to remove 
the door handles without removing the window?..bob 67-1600, muncie,in
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From az589 at lafn.org  Mon Nov  5 14:24:30 2007
From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:24:30 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
In-Reply-To: <8C9ED49CA93F5AA-CB0-2D8B@WEBMAIL-MB20.sysops.aol.com>
References: <001001c81ee0$cf94eb50$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
	<006501c81f18$f47a6fc0$0ba0aa42@gaxp1>
	<D8E38CBDA1074AA294B1FB8444DF3C72@garage.local>
	<8C9ED49CA93F5AA-CB0-2D8B@WEBMAIL-MB20.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20071105125457.056e35b8@lafn.org>

Linda,

FYI the zipper window isn't very easy to replace for the tops made 
locally in SoCal.  The ones generally available are sewn in across 
the bottom and the zipper is only on the sides and top of the window.

Is the rumor true that you are organizing a group soft top buy for 
the "Club" ?  Did you know that Les at Classic Datsun and I had the 
original patterns made for the zipper window models made locally?

Stan
============

At 02:33 PM 11/4/2007, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:
>  Is the zip in window easier to replace once that one goes also?
>Linda

From jimmitchell2969 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov  5 15:26:56 2007
From: jimmitchell2969 at sbcglobal.net (Jim Mitchell)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 14:26:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20071105125457.056e35b8@lafn.org>
Message-ID: <660227.70308.qm@web82111.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Is it true Linda?  I think what you did with the ball joints was great! I would invite you to save us all some dough on a soft top project even though the businesses or non-businesses may not like the outcome.
   
  Jim

Stan Checkoff <az589 at lafn.org> wrote:
  Linda,

FYI the zipper window isn't very easy to replace for the tops made 
locally in SoCal. The ones generally available are sewn in across 
the bottom and the zipper is only on the sides and top of the window.

Is the rumor true that you are organizing a group soft top buy for 
the "Club" ? Did you know that Les at Classic Datsun and I had the 
original patterns made for the zipper window models made locally?

Stan
============

At 02:33 PM 11/4/2007, ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:
> Is the zip in window easier to replace once that one goes also?
>Linda
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Mon Nov  5 16:26:50 2007
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:26:50 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 1970 in Elk Grove CA [was: LA area craigslist...]
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D1BB474@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <472F363A.6164.145207B@localhost>

Here's a craigslist posting in Elk Grove (about 20 mi south of
Sacramento). I know NOTHING about this car or its seller, and
can't tell much from the pictures. I'm just posting 'cause I saw
the LA area postings and thought I'd chime in :-)

<http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/469856427.html>

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Mon Nov  5 18:21:35 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:21:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Who is Patti Dwinell
In-Reply-To: <550226.32178.qm@web53510.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <24012238.1756971194312095838.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

I don't always make sense.B  I can see that my earlier remarks could have been
misunderstood.B  I was trying to compare my former secretary to Patti from the
Roadster list.B  My comment was that my secretary was not mecanically inclined
however Patti on the list is very knowlegable.B  I aplogize for any agony I
may have caused.



Andy

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon Nov  5 19:55:31 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:55:31 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Soft top Window replacement?
Message-ID: <006401c82020$7f616230$6600a8c0@chrissy>

If it were me, I would go to a top shop, have them convert it to a zipdown
window.  Qtr window would be tougher to replace.

Dave 

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon Nov  5 19:59:33 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 21:59:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Model Years  67 68 69 70
Message-ID: <006501c82021$0f971bb0$6600a8c0@chrissy>

Maybe the brake indicator is the safety switch on the brake junction block?
Does it connect to the Sbrake switch at all?

Dave

From dc at classicracingphotos.com  Mon Nov  5 21:21:38 2007
From: dc at classicracingphotos.com (Dennis Currington)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 20:21:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Datsuns on TV tonight
Message-ID: <417440.77790.qm@web82402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just watch the newest episode of CAR CRAZY and they flashed a few seconds of the Motoring J Show showing Ron's Z and a bunch of Roadsters.  Airing again tonight (Monday) at 11:30PM PST.
   
  Dennis


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From pccy at yahoo.com  Tue Nov  6 00:39:20 2007
From: pccy at yahoo.com (Patrick Cheah)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 23:39:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Top dead center for #1 piston
Message-ID: <667916.25025.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi everyone,

I have bought a recurve kit for my '69 SRL311. My distributor was set 0 degree before conversion. After conversion, I can't get it to run at 16 degree. I have few questions that maybe someone can help me. 

1) how is the tick marks on the crank pulley marked? Where is 0 degree and what is the increament?

2) What is the easy way to adjust the crank pulley so that #1 piston is on top dead center? Tried to adjust the crank pulley but the fan is in the way of the wrench.

Thanks in advance.

Patrick
'69 SRL311
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Tue Nov  6 04:37:16 2007
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 22:07:16 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Top dead center for #1 piston
In-Reply-To: <667916.25025.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <667916.25025.qm@web50807.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000001c82069$642cc650$426fa8c0@desktop>

1) how is the tick marks on the crank pulley marked? Where is 0 degree and
what is the increament?

If you have grooves in the crank pulley, the LAST one, the one most CCW, is
0deg or TDC for cyl#1.
Then, moving CW, they are in 5deg. increments BTDC, i.e. 5, 10 15 and 20deg
BTDC.

2) What is the easy way to adjust the crank pulley so that #1 piston is on
top dead center? Tried to adjust the crank pulley but the fan is in the way
of the wrench.

Take all the spark plugs out to reduce the load on the starter.
Then you can "bump" the starter using the ignition key to get the crank
close to TDC but it has got to be on the COMPRESSION stroke for #1. 
Then you should be able to get the TDC mark spot on by using a socket on the
crank pulley nut.
You may need to do it from under the car if the fan is in the way.
You might even be able to rotate the crank by turning the fan blades,
depends on how much grip the fan belt has and how strong you are.

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From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Tue Nov  6 13:04:12 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:04:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Board Lights - ideas?
Message-ID: <24113267.1194379452470.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I've been using the spec. dash board lights, #1445 (base style b9s, glass size g3.5, hours 2000, and 0.135 amps) and even after cleaning all the electrical and connectors they aren't that bright. I was wondering if anybody could recommend something that will work but is a little brighter without being so hot that it will melt the the inside of my dash components.

N

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Tue Nov  6 13:13:12 2007
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:13:12 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Board Lights - ideas?
In-Reply-To: <24113267.1194379452470.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <24113267.1194379452470.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4730CAD8.1050504@hornesystemstx.com>

Try bypassing the dash light rheostat. It helped on my 67.5

Peace,
Pat

 rheostat to see if that helps. It helped mine.Thusly spake 
nmleeds at mindspring.com:
> I've been using the spec. dash board lights, #1445 (base style b9s, glass size g3.5, hours 2000, and 0.135 amps) and even after cleaning all the electrical and connectors they aren't that bright. I was wondering if anybody could recommend something that will work but is a little brighter without being so hot that it will melt the the inside of my dash components.
>
> N
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From dc at classicracingphotos.com  Tue Nov  6 13:23:16 2007
From: dc at classicracingphotos.com (Dennis Currington)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:23:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Clip from Car Crazy TV
Message-ID: <451563.18126.qm@web82407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Here is the short (13sec) clip from the latest TV exposure:
   
  http://www.datsunracing.us/RC-World/RC-CC_2.wmv


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From alvingogi at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  6 13:42:59 2007
From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 20:42:59 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Clip from Car Crazy TV
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Thanks Dennis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I can see Matt Jacquet's '68 and MO and Francis'
roadsters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> Date: Tue,
6 Nov 2007 12:23:16 -0800> From: dc at classicracingphotos.com> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Clip from Car Crazy TV>
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From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  6 13:53:29 2007
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 13:53:29 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Top dead center for #1 piston
Message-ID: <18510486.1194382410486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

You might try putting it in gear, e-brake off, and push the car forward or back until the TDC mark on the crank pulley is lined up with the timing mark on the front cover.  TDC mark is the deeper/larger of the marks.  Still have to be sure you are at TDC by checking that cam lobes are pointing upward.    

-----Original Message-----
>From: Patrick Cheah <pccy at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Nov 6, 2007 12:39 AM
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] Top dead center for #1 piston
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>I have bought a recurve kit for my '69 SRL311. My distributor was set 0 degree before conversion. After conversion, I can't get it to run at 16 degree. I have few questions that maybe someone can help me. 
>
>1) how is the tick marks on the crank pulley marked? Where is 0 degree and what is the increament?
>
>2) What is the easy way to adjust the crank pulley so that #1 piston is on top dead center? Tried to adjust the crank pulley but the fan is in the way of the wrench.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Patrick
>'69 SRL311
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue Nov  6 13:58:47 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:58:47 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Top dead center for #1 piston
In-Reply-To: <18510486.1194382410486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20071106155847.28U5F.42893.root@fepweb14>

<You might try putting it in gear, e-brake off, and push the car forward or back until the TDC mark on the crank pulley is lined up with the timing mark on the front cover.>

Again, I am far from a mechanic, but this is what we did and it worked great.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Dewey Hahlbohm <hahlbohmd at earthlink.net> wrote: 
> You might try putting it in gear, e-brake off, and push the car forward or back until the TDC mark on the crank pulley is lined up with the timing mark on the front cover.  TDC mark is the deeper/larger of the marks.  Still have to be sure you are at TDC by checking that cam lobes are pointing upward.    

From geegc at aol.com  Tue Nov  6 14:46:04 2007
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:04 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Board Lights - ideas?
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someone a long time ago mentioned a mini halogen that worked and was brighter, anyone remember?

Gary C


-----Original Message-----
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:04 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Board Lights - ideas?



I've been using the spec. dash board lights, #1445 (base style b9s, glass size 
g3.5, hours 2000, and 0.135 amps) and even after cleaning all the electrical and 
connectors they aren't that bright. I was wondering if anybody could recommend 
something that will work but is a little brighter without being so hot that it 
will melt the the inside of my dash components.

N
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From dcorbitt77 at comcast.net  Tue Nov  6 15:00:15 2007
From: dcorbitt77 at comcast.net (dcorbitt77 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:00:15 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Board Lights - ideas?
Message-ID: <110620072200.8586.4730E3EF000AA2C10000218A2200735446C9C99B9B070D9D010C0B@comcast.net>

I never tried it but was considering putting in white LED's. Has anyone tried that? That would give you a lot more light and a lot less heat so no worries about melting anything.

Dave Corbitt
Summit, NJ

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: geegc at aol.com 

> someone a long time ago mentioned a mini halogen that worked and was brighter, 
> anyone remember? 
> 
> Gary C 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: nmleeds at mindspring.com 
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
> Sent: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:04 pm 
> Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Board Lights - ideas? 
> 
> 
> 
> I've been using the spec. dash board lights, #1445 (base style b9s, glass size 
> g3.5, hours 2000, and 0.135 amps) and even after cleaning all the electrical and 
> connectors they aren't that bright. I was wondering if anybody could recommend 
> something that will work but is a little brighter without being so hot that it 
> will melt the the inside of my dash components. 
> 
> N 
> ________________________________________ 
> 
> geegc at aol.com 

From Ralph at cloverleaf-auto.com  Tue Nov  6 15:25:27 2007
From: Ralph at cloverleaf-auto.com (Ralph Steinberg)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:25:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Turkey Bowl
Message-ID: <S359695AbXKFWZX/20071106222523Z+14874@swip003.ftl.affinity.com>

All,

My apologies if you are receiving this more than once, or if you've 
already registered ... I just wanted to remind everyone on this list 
that you're invited to the 11th Annual Turkey Bowl at Summit Point 
(main course) on Thanksgiving weekend (Nov 23-25) -- and the 
earlybird discount deadline for Turkey Bowl entries is this Saturday, 
November 10th.

Also, great news: the track has just been completely repaved!  No 
more concrete patches, bumps or lumps.  It's smooth as the proverbial 
baby's behind.

If you enter & pay by Saturday it's only $250 for all three 
days!  The entry form is attached, and also available on the VRG web site here:

<http://www.vrgonline.org/EVENTS/TURK/07TURKApp.pdf>http://www.vrgonline.org/EVENTS/TURK/07TURKApp.pdf

or go to <http://www.vrgonline.org/>www.vrgonline.org click on 
Events, then Turkey Bowl, and you'll find it there.  You'll also find 
lots of useful information in the FAQ on the web site.

If you've already sent your entry, tell your friends!  We can always 
use a few more entries and we can accomodate nearly any car, vintage 
or modern, in either the VRG race groups or our partner's race groups.

Hope to see you there!

Mark Palmer
VRG Event Chairman

From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Tue Nov  6 15:31:58 2007
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 16:31:58 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Bent window frame
Message-ID: <005901c820c4$d888ec30$0574fea9@steb1>

Hello folks,
 
I'm at the bodywork stage of my very long restoration project on
SPL27750. Several years ago and soon after mounting the body on my home
made rotary I was preparing to rotate the body from the horizontal
position just as a friend showed up. Instead of doing the rotation
myself (which I had done many times at this point) I asked him to hold
the body in the level position while I removed the front and back safety
pins from the rotary. If I do the move myself I use adjustable straps on
both door supports which keep's the body in position. After removing the
pins I use a chain hoist to swivel or raise the body to the desired
position and insert the pins. Just after removing the pins (straps
removed) my friend decides to let go of the body and it swings towards
the floor and passes through at least 110 degrees rotation, slamming the
top edge of the windshield frame into the cement floor. The frame looks
to be cocked 1.5 inches towards the passenger side. Has anyone had to
deal with this situation (structural problem not my friend) or am I the
only idiot out here?
 
As for my friend, what do you say? I told him not worry about it and
that it was a quick fix. He's not mechanically inclined and it was my
fault for even asking him to assist.
 
Steve Harvey
Milwaukee - In the 20's tonight Burrrrrrrrrrr 

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Tue Nov  6 15:47:01 2007
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:47:01 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Top dead center for #1 piston
In-Reply-To: <18510486.1194382410486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <47307E65.22171.1263458@localhost>

> ...until the TDC mark on the crank pulley is lined up with the timing
> mark on the front cover...
> Still have to be sure you are at TDC by checking that cam lobes
> are pointing upward.    

If the mark lines up (and is correct), you'll be at TDC. You may be at
top of the compression stroke (#1 firing) or the top of the exhaust
stroke (#4 firing). But you're at TDC.

> how is the tick marks on the crank pulley marked? Where is 0 degree
> and what is the increament?

Zero degree is the 'last' hash mark (in relation to the rotation of
the crankshaft). Each mark is 5 degrees. Make it easier on yourself,
rub a piece of chalk on the marks to make them stand out.

Remember to plug the vacuum advance line, and the idle speed
must be correct during dynamic adjustment (if idle is too high
some mechanical advance starts to be applied).

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From bubwin at mts.net  Tue Nov  6 16:10:51 2007
From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:10:51 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Top dead center for #1 piston
In-Reply-To: <47307E65.22171.1263458@localhost>
References: <47307E65.22171.1263458@localhost>
Message-ID: <7F3DBEF49AA14BF18EAC04A75C5F6574@BobPC>

Quick way to see if you are at TDC on the correct stroke.

Mark the distributor (not the cap) where No. 1 spark plug is, and pull the 
distributor cap off.  If the rotor is pointing at or near #1 you're right, 
if it's opposite, you are off by 180 degrees.  Turn the crank one 
revolution.

Saves having to pull the valve cover.

Bob Winslade
1966-1600 Missy
1967-1600 Bender

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Top dead center for #1 piston


>> ...until the TDC mark on the crank pulley is lined up with the timing
>> mark on the front cover...
>> Still have to be sure you are at TDC by checking that cam lobes
>> are pointing upward.
>
> If the mark lines up (and is correct), you'll be at TDC. You may be at
> top of the compression stroke (#1 firing) or the top of the exhaust
> stroke (#4 firing). But you're at TDC.
>
>> how is the tick marks on the crank pulley marked? Where is 0 degree
>> and what is the increament?
>
> Zero degree is the 'last' hash mark (in relation to the rotation of
> the crankshaft). Each mark is 5 degrees. Make it easier on yourself,
> rub a piece of chalk on the marks to make them stand out.
>
> Remember to plug the vacuum advance line, and the idle speed
> must be correct during dynamic adjustment (if idle is too high
> some mechanical advance starts to be applied).
>
> -- John
>     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
> ________________________________________
>
> bubwin at mts.net
>
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>
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>
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From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Tue Nov  6 16:36:04 2007
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 18:36:04 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks - Soft top Window replacement?
In-Reply-To: <006401c82020$7f616230$6600a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <002601c820cd$cd0cece0$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>

Thanks for all of your responses and in some cases pics - consensus has it
to take the top to a shop and replace the windows with zip out's.  


Joe

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Tue Nov  6 16:50:12 2007
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:50:12 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Board Lights - ideas?
In-Reply-To: <110620072200.8586.4730E3EF000AA2C10000218A2200735446C9C99B9B070D9D010C0B@comcast.net>
References: <110620072200.8586.4730E3EF000AA2C10000218A2200735446C9C99B9B070D9D010C0B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4730FDB4.3080203@hornesystemstx.com>

Dave,

I bought some white LEDs some time back, but never got around to trying 
them. The main problem I see in using LEDs is that the majority of the 
light comes out in one direction, rather than like an incandescent bulb, 
so several LEDs may be needed to bet the proper coverage.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake dcorbitt77 at comcast.net:
> I never tried it but was considering putting in white LED's. Has anyone tried that? That would give you a lot more light and a lot less heat so no worries about melting anything.
>
> Dave Corbitt
> Summit, NJ
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: geegc at aol.com 
>
>   
>> someone a long time ago mentioned a mini halogen that worked and was brighter, 
>> anyone remember? 
>>
>> Gary C 
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: nmleeds at mindspring.com 
>> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net 
>> Sent: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:04 pm 
>> Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Board Lights - ideas? 
>>
>>
>>
>> I've been using the spec. dash board lights, #1445 (base style b9s, glass size 
>> g3.5, hours 2000, and 0.135 amps) and even after cleaning all the electrical and 
>> connectors they aren't that bright. I was wondering if anybody could recommend 
>> something that will work but is a little brighter without being so hot that it 
>> will melt the the inside of my dash components. 
>>
>> N 
>> ________________________________________ 
>>
>> geegc at aol.com 
>>     
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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>   


-- 
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(512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
www.hornesystemstx.com
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov  6 16:52:15 2007
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:52:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks - Soft top Window replacement?
In-Reply-To: <002601c820cd$cd0cece0$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
Message-ID: <321084.96566.qm@web82815.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

i've never seen it done, but zip out side windows would be cool, too!

Joe Russo <jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com> wrote:  Thanks for all of your responses and in some cases pics - consensus has it
to take the top to a shop and replace the windows with zip out's. 


Joe

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Tue Nov  6 16:57:04 2007
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 17:57:04 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Tailpipe backfiring when shut off
Message-ID: <00a701c820d0$bba30a90$6500a8c0@lap>

Hello list,
Well I haven't updated my stroker project since July, so here it is:
I built the 1600 stroker using the stock head (un-ported, stock valves), stock
intake manifold (also un-ported, un-modified), 4:1 headers, and stock 1600
carbs with ADQ needles, Boone EI dizzy, standard U20 flat top pistons and U20
rods, and last but not least, the NISMO stroker crankshaft ($$$). The only
other upgrade to the engine was the Isky DR-66 cam, a little more lift and a
little more duration than the stock cam. I cc'd the head's chambers, and
several online copression calculators indicated this engine would have
approximately 9.4:1 compression. I also rebuilt and added the 5-speed to
complete this upgrade. The rotating components were then balanced at a local
speed shop, I was told to within .2 of a gram. It sure runs like it! It is
smooooooooth! Well worth the $175! IMHO.

After putting 1500 miles on the engine I have routinely cruise at 4500 rpm in
4th and 4000 in 5th,and recently started winding it further to 5000 during
3rd, 4th, and 5th gear shifts. It fairly screams and really seems to "like"
shifting at this rpm range. Must be a "torque curve" thing or something!
Anyway, I'm starting to wonder how far it will eventually wind out in 5th? My
problem is I'm already pushing close to 90 in 5th at 4k. How fast can one go
to "test" his engine? ! :-).

Everything is wonderful, except:   It backfires loudly (one loud bang out the
tailpipe) when I turn off the ignition. I've checked mixtures, timing, and
valve clearance. Compression is good and leakdown testing tells me there are
know valves leaking.
Any suggestions, opinions, or comments?

Thanks to all the listers who have provided help and advice to my project.
Mike Hudson   '67 - stroker / 5speed

From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Tue Nov  6 16:37:15 2007
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 19:37:15 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Tailpipe backfiring when shut off
References: <00a701c820d0$bba30a90$6500a8c0@lap>
Message-ID: <00c201c820cd$f6fcdb50$6501a8c0@p428ghz>

Since you've checked the obvious ( mixture, etc.) I'd suspect an exhaust
leak near the front.  The additional air a leak lets in can allow the last
unburned fuel air charge POP inside the exhaust.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike H." <twobeaners at earthlink.net>
To: "Datsun list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:57 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Tailpipe backfiring when shut off


> Hello list,
> Well I haven't updated my stroker project since July, so here it is:
> I built the 1600 stroker using the stock head (un-ported, stock valves),
stock
> intake manifold (also un-ported, un-modified), 4:1 headers, and stock 1600
> carbs with ADQ needles, Boone EI dizzy, standard U20 flat top pistons and
U20
> rods, and last but not least, the NISMO stroker crankshaft ($$$). The only
> other upgrade to the engine was the Isky DR-66 cam, a little more lift and
a
> little more duration than the stock cam. I cc'd the head's chambers, and
> several online copression calculators indicated this engine would have
> approximately 9.4:1 compression. I also rebuilt and added the 5-speed to
> complete this upgrade. The rotating components were then balanced at a
local
> speed shop, I was told to within .2 of a gram. It sure runs like it! It is
> smooooooooth! Well worth the $175! IMHO.
>
> After putting 1500 miles on the engine I have routinely cruise at 4500 rpm
in
> 4th and 4000 in 5th,and recently started winding it further to 5000 during
> 3rd, 4th, and 5th gear shifts. It fairly screams and really seems to
"like"
> shifting at this rpm range. Must be a "torque curve" thing or something!
> Anyway, I'm starting to wonder how far it will eventually wind out in 5th?
My
> problem is I'm already pushing close to 90 in 5th at 4k. How fast can one
go
> to "test" his engine? ! :-).
>
> Everything is wonderful, except:   It backfires loudly (one loud bang out
the
> tailpipe) when I turn off the ignition. I've checked mixtures, timing, and
> valve clearance. Compression is good and leakdown testing tells me there
are
> know valves leaking.
> Any suggestions, opinions, or comments?
>
> Thanks to all the listers who have provided help and advice to my project.
> Mike Hudson   '67 - stroker / 5speed
> ________________________________________
>
> msedlack at neo.rr.com
>
> Datsun-roadsters mailing list
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters

From dato1500 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  6 17:43:47 2007
From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:43:47 +0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Board Lights - ideas?
In-Reply-To: <24113267.1194379452470.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <24113267.1194379452470.JavaMail.root@mswamui-billy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY102-W30C187A9D61D3F3521BE21D58A0@phx.gbl>

I am currently reading a article on how to fit LED's into your auotmeter
gauges and when I get home tonight I will scan it and send it to anybody who
wants it. It's in the Hot4's technical handbook (aus).

Peter j> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 15:04:12 -0500> From: nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] Dash Board Lights -
ideas?> > I've been using the spec. dash board lights, #1445 (base style b9s,
glass size g3.5, hours 2000, and 0.135 amps) and even after cleaning all the
electrical and connectors they aren't that bright. I was wondering if anybody
could recommend something that will work but is a little brighter without
being so hot that it will melt the the inside of my dash components.> > N>
________________________________________> > dato1500 at hotmail.com> >
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From Geegc at aol.com  Tue Nov  6 23:11:40 2007
From: Geegc at aol.com (Geegc at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 01:11:40 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] try this site for bulbs
Message-ID: <cee.200f7df7.3462b11c@aol.com>

_http://autolumination.com/1156_1157.htm_ 
(http://autolumination.com/1156_1157.htm) 

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From datrock at centurytel.net  Wed Nov  7 08:30:02 2007
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:30:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Led Dash Lights
Message-ID: <4731D9FA.1000606@centurytel.net>

Hi, Sorry if this is a repeat, I was not sure if I replied to all or 
just the sendor... I have used LED  lights in a late model roadster, I 
picked up the lights at Autozone, I bought the green ones and they had 
maybe 9 -12 inches of wire preattached to them. I also had another 
removed dash to do the setup on. The way I installed the mini-harness is 
in a way that it can be removed and returned to the stock setup. I had 
an extra dash harness that was butchered so I cut off the dash bulb 
connectors, removed the guts form them and slid the LED wires threw the 
socket and siliconed the bulbs into the sockets. Then I connected the 
LED wires and taped them into a mini-harness.
 Once the mini-harness was built all I did was reach under and unplug 
the dash lights from the rheostat and disconnected the old bulb sockets 
from the gauges and attached the LED sockets and plugged the 
mini-harness into the rheostat. The old bulbs and harness are still 
complete, uncut, and under the dash so they can be plugged back in if I 
get tired of green.
  It was very easy to build the harness, the hardest part was getting to 
the clock bulb. hope this helps out... Bill Cole

From gogineni.alvin at gene.com  Wed Nov  7 10:52:35 2007
From: gogineni.alvin at gene.com (Alvin Gogineni)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:52:35 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Zama storage facility rare Nissans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-ID: <008101c82166$fb35ffa0$44b48980@gne.windows.gene.com>

I am in awe, help me identify the roadsters, this incredible!

Warning: LOTS OF PICTURES.  Don't click unless you have a few minutes for
your cpu to catch up.  But WOW. 

 <http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=2079707>
http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=2079707 

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  7 19:40:56 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:40:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Zama storage facility
Message-ID: <484237.86943.qm@web53504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

WOW! Alvin!!!!!
This is truly awesome!  Thank you for sharing!  
Patti
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Tue Nov  6 20:14:29 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:14:29 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Peter's Roadster X-Country Trip
Message-ID: <BAY107-F232D3B8E0B88EDA9D2AD6BDF8A0@phx.gbl>

Next Thursday (November 15th) I will be leaving Phoenix (I will be in 
Phoenix from Friday eve through Thursday morning) for Washington DC via 
Flagstaff/Winslow/Oklahoma City, returning through Aiken SC and Fort Worth 
driving Eliza ( my roadster )

There is some flexibility in the route so if there are any roadster owners 
in the vicinity, please give me a call (818) 448 3181 and maybe we can hook 
up.

A 37 year old car and a 59 year old driver should make for an interesting 
adventure.

Hope to see some of you enroute

Peter
1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)





>Phoenix to Oklahoma City via Flagstaff/Albuquerque
>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=Phoenix,+AZ&daddr=Flagstaff,+AZ+to:winslow+to:albuquerque,nm+to:oklahoma+city,+ok&mra=pi&mrcr=3&dirflg=h&sll=34.270836,-112.203369&sspn=0.642324,1.461182&ie=UTF8&z=5&om=1
>
>Oklahoma City to Arlington Virginia
>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=oklahoma+city,ok&daddr=1216+no.+powhatan,arlington,va+22205&sll=34.49726,-104.80142&sspn=20.227578,34.101562&dirflg=h&ie=UTF8&ll=37.405074,-87.319336&spn=19.508651,34.101563&z=5&om=1
>
>Arlington Virgina to Los Angeles via South Carolina, Fort Worth (ish)
>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=no+powhatan,+arlington,+va+22205&daddr=aiken,+south+carolina+to:sundance+court,+hudson+oaks,+tx+76087+to:17233+hemmingway+street,+van+nuys,+ca+91406&mra=pi&mrcr=2&dirflg=h&sll=35.678635,-87.47164&sspn=19.941352,34.101563&ie=UTF8&z=4&om=1
>Peter

>1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)

From catawho03 at msn.com  Sun Nov  4 09:17:07 2007
From: catawho03 at msn.com (VICKIE COGHILL)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:17:07 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] help
Message-ID: <BLU121-F30B0BBD2F8C8075ABA79CA18F0@phx.gbl>

   I'd  like  to stop getting mail from autox.team for now. I am having a
   horrible  time  trying to find the site so I can do that. Can you help
   me? Thanks.

   Vickie

From svedise at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  8 02:08:52 2007
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 01:08:52 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] help
References: <BLU121-F30B0BBD2F8C8075ABA79CA18F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY123-DS1D889A69462CFC1C338B3B48B0@phx.gbl>

look at bottom of any club email or go here 
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters
Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "VICKIE COGHILL" <catawho03 at msn.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 8:17 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] help

>   I'd  like  to stop getting mail from autox.team for now. I am having a
>   horrible  time  trying to find the site so I can do that. Can you help
>   me? Thanks.
>
>   Vickie
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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>
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From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Thu Nov  8 07:49:21 2007
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 09:49:21 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fall Colors trip last weekend
Message-ID: <E1Iq8go-00077D-0B@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi All,

 

Up I-75 from Chattanooga to Hwy 74 into Ducktown,

North on Hwy 68 thru Turtletown to Tellico Plains,

East on Hwy 165 (Cherohala Skyway, which becomes Hwy 143 at NC border) to
Hwy 129 north,

Up Hwy 129, along the edge of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park,

Through Deals Gap (and the Tail of the Dragon) to Hwy 411,

North on Hwy 68 back to I-75 south and headed home.

An incredible day!

 

On the "Dragon", there were fewer motorcycles (and fewer cops) because it's
getting colder. There was a Mini Cooper gathering at the Tapoco Lodge (2
miles from the Dragon). They were ZIPPING through those hills!

 

GA, TN, NC, SC, VA, KY, AL Roadster Owners. We've gotta get together to do
this sometime this coming year!

 

Here's the Webshots link to my trip, + a couple of other pictures

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/561367396NQuDkL?vhost=good-times

 

Matt

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Thu Nov  8 08:35:00 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 07:35:00 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] "B" dash light - circuit to nowhere?
Message-ID: <7179486.1194536100249.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Could someone tell me what the "B" dashboard light is for? The best I can figure the service brake switch on the dash turns it on and off, but it isn't hooked up to anything else--fun, but even I get bored turning lights on and off.

Is there some missing hardware that should connect this light to the parking brake? Should I wire it to the brake lights? 

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000 (electrically challenged) 

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Thu Nov  8 08:59:22 2007
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:59:22 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] "B" dash light - circuit to nowhere?
In-Reply-To: <7179486.1194536100249.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <7179486.1194536100249.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4733325A.3000102@hornesystemstx.com>

I believe that it is also to be connected to the brake failure switch in 
the engine compartment.

My 67.5 doesn't have the light, but with all the fun I hear it is I 
think I will install several!

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake nmleeds at mindspring.com:
> Could someone tell me what the "B" dashboard light is for? The best I can figure the service brake switch on the dash turns it on and off, but it isn't hooked up to anything else--fun, but even I get bored turning lights on and off.
>
> Is there some missing hardware that should connect this light to the parking brake? Should I wire it to the brake lights? 
>
> Nathaniel Leeds
> '69 2000 (electrically challenged) 
> ________________________________________
>
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>   


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(512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  8 09:13:48 2007
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:13:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] "B" dash light - circuit to nowhere?
In-Reply-To: <7179486.1194536100249.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <411384.69222.qm@web81412.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Someone should be keeping a log of how often this question comes up.

The pretty red light in the "Brake Safety Lamp Check Knob" (as it is referred to in the Owner's Manual) is the Brake Safety Lamp. The light in the knob is activated when a) a failure (drop in pressure) in either the front or rear brake hydraulic circuits is detected, or b) you pull the knob out.

There is a valve block mounted on the firewall which the front and rear brake circuits are routed through. If the valve detects a pressure imbalance between the front and rear circuits when the brakes are applied, a switch is activated which lights this lamp. Pulling the knob checks that the lamp is functioning.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA
'70 2000 SRL311-13291

nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote: Could someone tell me what the "B" dashboard light is for? The best I can figure the service brake switch on the dash turns it on and off, but it isn't hooked up to anything else--fun, but even I get bored turning lights on and off.

Is there some missing hardware that should connect this light to the parking brake? Should I wire it to the brake lights? 

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000 (electrically challenged) 
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  8 10:04:23 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:04:23 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Acknowledgements
Message-ID: <BAY107-F35CABA3C77D6B5CEAF39D9DF8B0@phx.gbl>

I am off tomorrow and before I leave (and in case I don't return <G>) I 
wanted to acknowledge the people who have made this trip possible: in 
alphabetic order

Allen Hor(o?)witz - for being there - transporting my engine and me from 
place to place

Dean - for having the parts in the 1st place and having them available - 
sure he made money out of me - but thats why he is in business - and i am 
grateful (try getting the parts for a 1949 MKVI Bentley with the same speed 
and reasonable price - I have - it ain't possible)

Gary Wasserman - for the tranny core  - extra parts - and overall 
cheerfulness and friendship

Jason - (Taylors - Chatsworth) - an outstanding, knowledgeable and friendly 
mechanic and easy to work with

Linda Jordan  - for her time and excellent engine cleaning skills

Marc (Rockfish) ( don't know last name ) for lending me the engine leveller 
and his time and pointing out that I needed some more (different) parts

Mark De Groof - machining/welding skills and for a MUCH appreciated mantra 
(there is never enough time to do it right - there is ALWAYS enough time to 
do it twice)

Ross Mullen - Getting me the drive shaft (and some of those pesky dash bolts 
) with alacrity and cheer

Skip Miller (Pasadena) quickly disassembling the tranny and identifying 
those parts that Dean could make money on <G> - and then reassembling it 
with professionalism and speed

So, this will be an adventure - and thanks again to all


Peter
1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Thu Nov  8 10:32:00 2007
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 12:32:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Fall Colors trip last weekend
In-Reply-To: <E1Iq8go-00077D-0B@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1Iq8go-00077D-0B@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8C9F04467637F28-C3C-54EA@webmail-de01.sysops.aol.com>

 Hey now, that's what I'm talking about, Fall Colors and Datsun drive! Really
nice photos Matt. Jeez TN is beautiful. Thanks for the vicarious trip thru
paradise.

Linda







-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 6:49 am
Subject: Fall Colors trip last weekend





























Hi All,



B 



Up I-75 from Chattanooga
to Hwy 74 into Ducktown,



North on Hwy 68 thru Turtletown to Tellico Plains,



East on Hwy 165 (Cherohala Skyway, which becomes Hwy 143 at
NC border) to Hwy 129 north,



Up Hwy 129, along the edge of the Great Smoky Mountains National
  Park,



Through Deals Gap (and the Tail of the Dragon) to Hwy 411,



North on Hwy 68 back to I-75 south and headed home.



An incredible day!



B 



On the bDragonb, there were fewer motorcycles
(and fewer cops) because itbs getting colder. There was a Mini Cooper
gathering at the Tapoco Lodge (2 miles from the Dragon). They were ZIPPING
through those hills!



B 



GA, TN, NC, SC, VA, KY, AL Roadster Ownersb& Webve
gotta get together to do this sometime this coming year!



B 



Herebs the Webshots link to my trip, + a couple of
other pictures



http://good-times.webshots.com/album/561367396NQuDkL?vhost=good-times



B 



Matt









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From zariwny100 at comcast.net  Thu Nov  8 10:39:27 2007
From: zariwny100 at comcast.net (Kerry and Kae Zariwny)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 09:39:27 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] "B" dash light - circuit to nowhere?
References: <411384.69222.qm@web81412.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002801c8222e$989b3e50$6501a8c0@YOUR0E16268AB7>

Ahh The pretty red light.

I have told the list this story a long time ago but years ago I told a
friend who was riding in my  roadster for the first time that the s/brake
switch was actually an early version of turbo power that Datsun had in its
roadsters. He did not believe me, of course, until I pulled the switch, red
light kicks on and suddenly we accelerated down the freeway. Pushed it in,
light goes off and we slowed. So he tried it. He pulls the s/brake,light
goes on and we accelerate. He pushes it in, light goes off and we slow down.
I had him going for about 30 minutes until I finally told him that every
time he pulled the switch,  I was stepping on the gas. He pushes it in, I
let off the gas.

He did not take it very well :-)


Kerry Z
Portland Oregon
A "Rare Turbo" 1968 1600


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary McCormick" <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net>
To: <nmleeds at mindspring.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] "B" dash light - circuit to nowhere?


> Someone should be keeping a log of how often this question comes up.
>
> The pretty red light in the "Brake Safety Lamp Check Knob" (as it is
> referred to in the Owner's Manual) is the Brake Safety Lamp. The light in
> the knob is activated when a) a failure (drop in pressure) in either the
> front or rear brake hydraulic circuits is detected, or b) you pull the
> knob out.
>
> There is a valve block mounted on the firewall which the front and rear
> brake circuits are routed through. If the valve detects a pressure
> imbalance between the front and rear circuits when the brakes are applied,
> a switch is activated which lights this lamp. Pulling the knob checks that
> the lamp is functioning.
>
> Gary McCormick
> San Jose, CA
> '70 2000 SRL311-13291
>
> nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote: Could someone tell me what the "B" dashboard
> light is for? The best I can figure the service brake switch on the dash
> turns it on and off, but it isn't hooked up to anything else--fun, but
> even I get bored turning lights on and off.
>
> Is there some missing hardware that should connect this light to the
> parking brake? Should I wire it to the brake lights?
>
> Nathaniel Leeds
> '69 2000 (electrically challenged)
> ________________________________________
>
> gkmcc at sbcglobal.net
>
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>
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>
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From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  8 11:06:18 2007
From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:06:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 ignition key
Message-ID: <674990.30664.qm@web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I asked for help with finding a key blank for a 2000 ignition some time back
   
  Some misunderstood, but two people offtered to sell me blanks or ignition locks/keys. 
   
  I have not heard back from either, maybe my emails are not getting through?
   
  I really would like to get the car to the next step of rebuild, which is to start it....
   
  Please?
   
  JimG

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  8 11:31:01 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:31:01 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 5 speed tranny - good news/bad news
Message-ID: <BAY107-F2965E3D137149D485C062ADF8B0@phx.gbl>

Good News
It is IN!!!!!! - smooth and indeed I often forget to shift from 4 to 5 - 
have to be careful when downshifting - have heard a few protests from 
reverse <G>

Bad News
Tested the car at my smog guys place and am only getting 43/44 mph @ 2000 
rpm. Problem is the 14 inch panasports w/low profile tyres - still it is 
certainly an improvement - but not as dramatic as I had hoped - 'splains my 
somewhat low mpg tho'

Could someone out there with stock wheels/tires let me know what the full 
diameter(including tires)  is - just want to do the calculations for the 
heck of it.

Peter
1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)

From escanlon at wa-net.com  Thu Nov  8 11:50:32 2007
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:50:32 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] "B" dash light - circuit to nowhere? OT comment
 another prank
References: <411384.69222.qm@web81412.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<002801c8222e$989b3e50$6501a8c0@YOUR0E16268AB7>
Message-ID: <003b01c82238$3e12edc0$0300a8c0@HPWIDESCREEN>

That's funny!

Reminds me of a similar incident I pulled on an unsuspecting lady-friend 
back in college with a 76 Mercury Capri II.

Those cars had a switch and bulb mounted in the footwell, near where our 
dead pedal pad is.  This switch / bulb was the windshield washer system for 
the car.  If you pressed with the complete flat of your shoe, you'd actuate 
the ring and press on the bulb together and you'd squirt the windshield and 
actuate the wipers all in one movement.  If you pressed just the outer ring, 
you'd get wipers only, and if you were careful you could press JUST the bulb 
and only get the stream of water hitting the windshield.

Since the dash had a series of filler plugs in the middle for accessories / 
features that didn't get added to the U.S. market cars, it was easy to tell 
her that there were a pair of IR sensors that sensed the position and shape 
of your hand in front of it.  To demonstrate, I put my hand up with fingers 
spread --- the squirt hit the windshield.  Then I put up just one finger and 
the wipers came on.  Putting up all the fingers and waving them caused the 
squirt AND the wipers.

Since we were on a long highway trip at the time, and using my peripheral 
vision below my sunglasses, I kept her going for at least 45 miles or so, 
with her trying to "fool" or "surprise" the system. It wasn't until I had to 
exit the highway and was shifting that she caught on that my clutch foot had 
been doing all the legerdemain.

Any other unusual "accessories" out there?

Sharing a laugh;
E

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry and Kae Zariwny"

> Ahh The pretty red light.
>
> I have told the list this story a long time ago but years ago I told a
> friend who was riding in my  roadster for the first time that the s/brake
> switch was actually an early version of turbo power that Datsun had in its
> roadsters. He did not believe me, of course, until I pulled the switch, 
> red
> light kicks on and suddenly we accelerated down the freeway. Pushed it in,
> light goes off and we slowed. So he tried it. He pulls the s/brake,light
> goes on and we accelerate. He pushes it in, light goes off and we slow 
> down.
> I had him going for about 30 minutes until I finally told him that every
> time he pulled the switch,  I was stepping on the gas. He pushes it in, I
> let off the gas.
>
> He did not take it very well :-)
>
>
> Kerry Z
> Portland Oregon
> A "Rare Turbo" 1968 1600

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  8 12:11:52 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:11:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] circuit to nowhere?
In-Reply-To: <002801c8222e$989b3e50$6501a8c0@YOUR0E16268AB7>
Message-ID: <476623.17326.qm@web53509.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

That's too funny!!!  I love it!



Kerry and Kae Zariwny <zariwny100 at comcast.net> wrote: Ahh The pretty red light.

I have told the list this story a long time ago but years ago I told a
friend who was riding in my  roadster for the first time that the s/brake
switch was actually an early version of turbo power that Datsun had in its
roadsters. He did not believe me, of course, until I pulled the switch, red
light kicks on and suddenly we accelerated down the freeway. Pushed it in,
light goes off and we slowed. So he tried it. He pulls the s/brake,light
goes on and we accelerate. He pushes it in, light goes off and we slow down.
I had him going for about 30 minutes until I finally told him that every
time he pulled the switch,  I was stepping on the gas. He pushes it in, I
let off the gas.

He did not take it very well :-)


Kerry Z
Portland Oregon
A "Rare Turbo" 1968 1600
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
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From svedise at hotmail.com  Thu Nov  8 12:23:11 2007
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:23:11 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 2000 ignition key
References: <674990.30664.qm@web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY123-DS23EC0D1FEC334B005C72BB48B0@phx.gbl>

Dean has them http://www.datsunparts.com/ and a lot more of our vendors do 
too.

Jim
70 2000

>I asked for help with finding a key blank for a 2000 ignition some time 
>back
>
>  Some misunderstood, but two people offtered to sell me blanks or ignition 
> locks/keys.
>
>  I have not heard back from either, maybe my emails are not getting 
> through?
>
>  I really would like to get the car to the next step of rebuild, which is 
> to start it....
>
>  Please?
>
>  JimG

From jake7140 at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  8 20:42:01 2007
From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:42:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] "Accessories"
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21.1194548402.19342.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <632832.89890.qm@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My winter beater at one time was a 1970 Pontiac LeMans. I installed a
"special switch" inside the glove compartment.  Late one night I had
my buddy open up the glove box and "push the button".  To his
amazement, and accompanying shower of sparks, a rocket shot out in
front of the car and off down the highway!

I had rigged up a coat hanger and wires for a mobile rocket launcher
under the front bumper that provided lots of fun.

As for Roadsters, in my vintage race 1600, the fog lamp switch powers
the on-board video system.

> 
> Any other unusual "accessories" out there?
> 
> Sharing a laugh;
> E
> 


Steve
 
Steve's Racing web site
  www.NoNameRacing.com
Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home
  www.elrss.com

From pccy at yahoo.com  Thu Nov  8 23:41:01 2007
From: pccy at yahoo.com (Patrick Cheah)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 22:41:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters]  Top dead center for #1 piston
Message-ID: <542455.19584.qm@web50811.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Thanks for all the great suggestions.

Patrick
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Fri Nov  9 14:09:12 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 13:09:12 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?
Message-ID: <29428315.1194642552982.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Moving on around the inside of the car. I'm trying to figure out what to do to improve my map light. The original mechanism is so worn that there's not much breathing life back into it. I'm not excited about replacing the original with new old stock -- but this is expensive, and I'm not convinced that the original design was ever that durable.  

Has anybody found a replacement which looks good and is more durable than the original.  

Any ideas?

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000 

From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Fri Nov  9 13:39:55 2007
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:39:55 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?
References: <29428315.1194642552982.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003d01c82310$affc5e20$6501a8c0@p428ghz>

Nathaniel,
I made one up for the "R" -
http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/lots-o-stuff.htm about halfway
down the page.

Made from a clear marker light from NAPA, a snap-in rocker switch, and a
piece of 1/8" thick aluminum.  Mounts to the stock holes.  The NAPA marker
light has two sockets on the back that accept barrel plugs, and I've seen
switches like that at Advanced Auto Parts and Radio Shack - Napa might even
have em too.

The switch has two "ears" that deflect when you push it into the hole, and
snap back out on the backside of the panel ( aluminum plate in this case).
I made the rectangular holes by drilling 1/8" holes at the corners, then
using a step drill to make larger holes inside the rectangle.  A hack saw
blade to rough cut the rest, then file to fit.  The light is a press fit
into the opening, then epoxied on the back

Mark Sedlack
ZROC
Cuyahoga Falls OH
66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:09 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?


> Moving on around the inside of the car. I'm trying to figure out what to
do to improve my map light. The original mechanism is so worn that there's
not much breathing life back into it. I'm not excited about replacing the
original with new old stock -- but this is expensive, and I'm not convinced
that the original design was ever that durable.
>
> Has anybody found a replacement which looks good and is more durable than
the original.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Nathaniel Leeds
> '69 2000
> ________________________________________
>
> msedlack at neo.rr.com
>
> Datsun-roadsters mailing list
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters

From aultgc at jorsm.com  Fri Nov  9 16:17:05 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:17:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?
Message-ID: <200711092317.lA9NH5LO001214@outbound-mta.egix.net>

   Mark,

   Nathaniel  has  a  '69,  so  he is probably referring to the map light
   which goes into the front of the console, and pushes on-off.

   There's  actually  a  used low-windshield lamp on eBay right now, dirt
   cheap.

   Gary
   On Fri Nov 9 15:39 , "Mark Sedlack" sent:
   
     Nathaniel,
     I made one up for the "R" -
     http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/lots-o-stuff.htm  about
     halfway
     down the page.
     Made  from a clear marker light from NAPA, a snap-in rocker switch,
     and a
     piece  of  1/8" thick aluminum. Mounts to the stock holes. The NAPA
     marker
     light  has  two  sockets  on the back that accept barrel plugs, and
     I've seen
     switches  like  that  at Advanced Auto Parts and Radio Shack - Napa
     might even
     have em too.
     The  switch  has  two "ears" that deflect when you push it into the
     hole, and
     snap back out on the backside of the panel ( aluminum plate in this
     case).
     I made the rectangular holes by drilling 1/8" holes at the corners,
     then
     using  a  step  drill  to make larger holes inside the rectangle. A
     hack saw
     blade to rough cut the rest, then file to fit. The light is a press
     fit
     into the opening, then epoxied on the back
     Mark Sedlack
     ZROC
     Cuyahoga Falls OH
     66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
     77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
     ----- Original Message -----
     From: <nmleeds@ mindspring.com>
     To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
     Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:09 PM
     Subject: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?
     >  Moving on around the inside of the car. I'm trying to figure out
     what to
     do  to improve my map light. The original mechanism is so worn that
     there's
     not  much  breathing  life  back  into  it.  I'm  not excited about
     replacing the
     original  with  new old stock -- but this is expensive, and I'm not
     convinced
     that the original design was ever that durable.
     >
     >  Has  anybody  found  a  replacement which looks good and is more
     durable than
     the original.
     >
     > Any ideas?
     >
     > Nathaniel Leeds
     > '69 2000
     > ________________________________________
     >
     > msedlack at ne o.rr.com
     >
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     >
     > http://www.team.net/archive
     >
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From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Fri Nov  9 17:01:23 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:01:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Center Console Map Light -- Any way to do better?
Message-ID: <23193071.1194652884123.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

My correction on the previous e-mail. I'm looking for ideas for the center console light.


Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000

From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Fri Nov  9 16:20:09 2007
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:20:09 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?
References: <200711092317.lA9NH5LO001214@outbound-mta.egix.net>
Message-ID: <006b01c82327$12bfb730$6501a8c0@p428ghz>

Ooops, I thought everybody had a flat dash...<G>
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Gary and Cindy Ault
  To: nmleeds at mindspring.com ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net ; 'Mark
Sedlack'
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?


  Mark,

  Nathaniel has a '69, so he is probably referring to the map light which goes
into the front of the console, and pushes on-off.

  There's actually a used low-windshield lamp on eBay right now, dirt cheap.

  Gary

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Fri Nov  9 17:37:59 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 19:37:59 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?
Message-ID: <31953698.1194655079463.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

   Don't rub it in.

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Mark Sedlack
     Sent: Nov 9, 2007 6:20 PM
     To:            aultgc at jorsm.com,            nmleeds at mindspring.com,
     datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
     Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?

   Ooops, I thought everybody had a flat dash...<G>

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: Gary and Cindy Ault

   To:  nmleeds at mindspring.com  ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net ; 'Mark
   Sedlack'

   Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:17 PM

   Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?

     Mark,

     Nathaniel  has  a '69, so he is probably referring to the map light
     which goes into the front of the console, and pushes on-off.

     There's actually a used low-windshield lamp on eBay right now, dirt
     cheap.

     Gary

From svedise at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  9 18:28:39 2007
From: svedise at hotmail.com (Jim Svedise)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 17:28:39 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?
References: <31953698.1194655079463.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY123-DS2CB32418CB24594C3EE13B4850@phx.gbl>

 My girl has a figure she not fat : )
Jim  2000

----- Original Message -----
From: <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: "Mark Sedlack" <msedlack at neo.rr.com>; <aultgc at jorsm.com>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?

>   Don't rub it in.
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Mark Sedlack
>     Sent: Nov 9, 2007 6:20 PM
>     To:            aultgc at jorsm.com,            nmleeds at mindspring.com,
>     datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>     Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?
>
>   Ooops, I thought everybody had a flat dash...<G>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
>   From: Gary and Cindy Ault
>
>   To:  nmleeds at mindspring.com  ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net ; 'Mark
>   Sedlack'
>
>   Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:17 PM
>
>   Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?
>
>     Mark,
>
>     Nathaniel  has  a '69, so he is probably referring to the map light
>     which goes into the front of the console, and pushes on-off.
>
>     There's actually a used low-windshield lamp on eBay right now, dirt
>     cheap.
>
>     Gary

From toolmansj2 at comcast.net  Sat Nov 10 11:08:30 2007
From: toolmansj2 at comcast.net (toolmansj2 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:08:30 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] need help with transmission
Message-ID: <111020071808.4596.4735F39E000257F1000011F42215575114069C020E030401019B@comcast.net>

Getting ready to mount tranny to engine and not sure how the bearing spring retainers go together does anyone have a pic of this or can someone explain this to me? I have 3 different books and none of them have detail about it except to greese the area.
Thanks Shaun
Tracy Ca

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sat Nov 10 14:52:20 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:52:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Map Light -- Any way to do better?
In-Reply-To: <29428315.1194642552982.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <015701c823e3$f951dfe0$6600a8c0@chrissy>

Saab used to have a maplight on the "back" of the rear view mirror, between
the mirror and the windshield I always thought that was a cool idea.



Moving on around the inside of the car. I'm trying to figure out what to do
to improve my map light. The original mechanism is so worn that there's not
much breathing life back into it. I'm not excited about replacing the
original with new old stock -- but this is expensive, and I'm not convinced
that the original design was ever that durable.  

Has anybody found a replacement which looks good and is more durable than
the original.  

Any ideas?

Nathaniel Leeds
'69 2000 

From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Sat Nov 10 18:09:18 2007
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:09:18 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] '66 backup light
Message-ID: <000a01c823ff$7ca463c0$6501a8c0@p428ghz>

I scrapped a very rusted, cracked,'66 rear bumper today, but took the the time
to remove the backup light from it before sending to recycle heaven.  The
chome is rusted, but all the pieces parts are there.
Anyone on the list want it?  You pay postage.

Mark Sedlack
ZROC
Cuyahoga Falls OH
66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Sat Nov 10 21:02:05 2007
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 22:02:05 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Tailpipe backfiring when shut off
References: <00a701c820d0$bba30a90$6500a8c0@lap>
	<002701c823db$506167f0$6401a8c0@datsunspcb0fcp>
Message-ID: <001701c82417$9f72ae80$6500a8c0@lap>

Hi Al,
Thanks for your reply.

Thats' what I was thinking too. I run a "Boone" EI Distributor, so it's not
a points issue. Plugs at this point show a light tan/grey color, this is
what I have assumed for the last 40 years to mean a balanced fuel mixture.
It does seem to run smoother, and at a faster idle, at another 1/4  turn
leaner on the mixture nuts. It will run up to 90 mph without any hesitation
or high speed miss. When I look at the plugs using this leaner mix, they are
a lighter, almost white color, but no specks or evidence of excessive
heating that most sources say  would mean it's "too lean". I've heard that
these engines like to run lean, but I've also heard of several people who
have melted pistons, and warn against excessively lean mixtures. I've always
thought if you're running too lean, the engine will start to miss at higher
loads. ???
Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Boettcher" <datsunsports at rogers.com>
To: "Mike H." <twobeaners at earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Tailpipe backfiring when shut off


> you are most likely running too rich or if using points your gap has
changed
> Al...68 solex..


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike H." <twobeaners at earthlink.net>
> To: "Datsun list" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 3:57 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Tailpipe backfiring when shut off
>
>
> > Hello list
> >
> > After putting 1500 miles on the engine I have routinely cruise at 4500
rpm
> > in
> > 4th and 4000 in 5th,and recently started winding it further to 5000
during
> > 3rd, 4th, and 5th gear shifts. It fairly screams and really seems to
> > "like"
> > shifting at this rpm range. Must be a "torque curve" thing or something!
> > Anyway, I'm starting to wonder how far it will eventually wind out in
5th?
> > My
> > problem is I'm already pushing close to 90 in 5th at 4k. How fast can
one
> > go
> > to "test" his engine? ! :-).
> >
> > Everything is wonderful, except:   It backfires loudly (one loud bang
out
> > the
> > tailpipe) when I turn off the ignition. I've checked mixtures, timing,
and
> > valve clearance. Compression is good and leakdown testing tells me there
> > are
> > know valves leaking.
> > Any suggestions, opinions, or comments?
> >
> > Thanks to all the listers who have provided help and advice to my
project.
> > Mike Hudson   '67 - stroker / 5speed
> > ________________________________________

From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com  Sun Nov 11 05:55:53 2007
From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:55:53 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 5 speed tranny - good news/bad news: Do not fret about
 highway RPM
In-Reply-To: <BAY107-F2965E3D137149D485C062ADF8B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY107-F2965E3D137149D485C062ADF8B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY109-W98403E4C864D91022A514BF860@phx.gbl>

Pete,

My 96 Miata turns 4,000 RPM at 75mph, which works out to only 38mph or so at
2K.  15 inch wheels with 195X50 Kumhos.  I think it has 4.10 gears.

So, be happy for the improvement you got with your five speed!   It sounds
like it should be about right, but if you want a little less RPM you could
make sure you have the 2L cars 3.70 gears instead of the 1600 cars 3.89
gears.

Our cars will never be lazy american engines, but then again they dont have
the displacement to support low RPM torque either.  And, the best part,
engines tuned for higher RPM HP = fun to drive....so enjoy the ride.

Just my two cents for a Sunday Morning.   I guess newer cars with variable
valve timing can have a bit of the best of both worlds.....

Jim
> From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:31:01 -0800> Subject: [Roadsters] 5 speed tranny -
good news/bad news> > Good News> It is IN!!!!!! - smooth and indeed I often
forget to shift from 4 to 5 - > have to be careful when downshifting - have
heard a few protests from > reverse <G>> > Bad News> Tested the car at my smog
guys place and am only getting 43/44 mph @ 2000 > rpm. Problem is the 14 inch
panasports w/low profile tyres - still it is > certainly an improvement - but
not as dramatic as I had hoped - 'splains my > somewhat low mpg tho'> > Could
someone out there with stock wheels/tires let me know what the full >
diameter(including tires) is - just want to do the calculations for the > heck
of it.> > Peter> 1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)

From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Sun Nov 11 06:37:26 2007
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:37:26 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] '66 backup light Correction - '66 license plate
 light
References: <000a01c823ff$7ca463c0$6501a8c0@p428ghz>
Message-ID: <002b01c82467$ffd10920$6501a8c0@p428ghz>

Correction, its the license plate light that sits on top of the bumper, not
the backup light.
( I should know better than to post when over tired....)


 The
> chome is rusted, but all the pieces parts are there.
> Anyone on the list want it?  You pay postage.
>
> Mark Sedlack
> ZROC
> Cuyahoga Falls OH
> 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
> 77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/
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From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com  Sun Nov 11 08:26:12 2007
From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 10:26:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] '66 backup light Correction - '66 license plate
 light
In-Reply-To: <002b01c82467$ffd10920$6501a8c0@p428ghz>
References: <000a01c823ff$7ca463c0$6501a8c0@p428ghz>
	<002b01c82467$ffd10920$6501a8c0@p428ghz>
Message-ID: <BAY109-W25B2DBA45E3EC40184CC0BBF860@phx.gbl>

Ha~!
You violated what I like to call the "one cup rule"

Never write down anything other people will read until you have been awake
long enough to consume one cup of coffee!

I was kind of wondering what kind of backup light you were talking about, now
the mystery is revealed!
Best Regards and Good Morning
Jim
Chesapake Virginia> From: msedlack at neo.rr.com> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:37:26 -0400>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '66 backup light Correction - '66 license plate
light> > Correction, its the license plate light that sits on top of the
bumper, not> the backup light.> ( I should know better than to post when over
tired....)> > > The> > chome is rusted, but all the pieces parts are there.> >
Anyone on the list want it? You pay postage.> >> > Mark Sedlack> > ZROC> >
Cuyahoga Falls OH> > 66 1600 http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/> >
77 280Z http://www.mildevco.net/chevypowereddatsuns/

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun Nov 11 08:56:59 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:56:59 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX
Message-ID: <BAY106-F3623AB92FFAC2C7BDA4751DF860@phx.gbl>

Drove from LAX -> PHX - no problem.
Filled up w/Circle K Gas (Premuim) - suddenly in 5th at 4K+ engine starts to 
misfire - want to have everything checked out before I drive to the 
hinterlands.

Any suggestions

Thx



Peter
1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Sun Nov 11 09:13:26 2007
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 11:13:26 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-F3623AB92FFAC2C7BDA4751DF860@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY106-F3623AB92FFAC2C7BDA4751DF860@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8C9F294ED022806-1174-34C1@Webmail-mg17.sysops.aol.com>

 Pete,

Maybe water in the gas? Dashpots have enough oil? All fuel? hoses etc tight? Fuel filter clean?




 Just some ideas until the cavalry arrives..

Linda

 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 7:56 am
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX










Drove from LAX -> PHX - no problem.
Filled up w/Circle K Gas (Premuim) - suddenly in 5th at 4K+ engine starts to 
misfire - want to have everything checked out before I drive to the 
hinterlands.

Any suggestions

Thx



Peter
1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Sun Nov 11 10:18:11 2007
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 09:18:11 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster rotisserie progress
Message-ID: <47373953.4050106@comcast.net>

once again, my message never made it to the list.  I'll try again. 3rd 
try is the charm?

I loaded my roadster onto my own home-built rotisserie this weekend.  
I've linked pics below. I found that my pivot points were quite 
different from Graeme's.  This could be due to the weight of the 
carriage I built.  I'm not sure.
http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/d-solomon/?action=view&current=DVC01355.jpg 

http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/d-solomon/?action=view&current=DVC01356.jpg 

http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/d-solomon/?action=view&current=DVC01357.jpg 


For the rotating parts, I used the rear hubs from a late model FWD 
chevy.  $5/ea. at the pull-a-part.  I built it so that every dimension 
is adjustable.  Hopefully this will allow me to sell it when I'm done, 
rather than junk it.
The one thing I'm unhappy with is the casters.  I skimped and bought 'em 
at Harbor Freight.  While they seem to carry the weight fine, they don't 
like to change directions... ie:  they don't "caster".  I'll likely end 
up changing them out over time.
Once I got it in the air, I was able to see all of the surprises that 
the previous "restorer" left for me.  ie: bondo a full inch thick on the 
rocker panels, covering rusted-through metal.  They placed mesh tape 
behind the holes to hold the bondo in place.  I've got alot of time 
ahead of me on the body work. I'll need to replace both rockers, 
drivers-side floor, trunk floor, rear edge of both rear wheel-arches, 
and then the front inner fenders....(depending on how much remains after 
I cut it all up for the new motor....)

just an update. hope y'all have a great weekend.

From vze2fhba at verizon.net  Sun Nov 11 14:08:58 2007
From: vze2fhba at verizon.net (Charles Breault)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:08:58 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] '66 backup light Correction - '66 license plate
 light
References: <000a01c823ff$7ca463c0$6501a8c0@p428ghz>
	<002b01c82467$ffd10920$6501a8c0@p428ghz>
	<BAY109-W25B2DBA45E3EC40184CC0BBF860@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000c01c824a7$1404dae0$60f9fea9@home>

One cup? Try 3 for me.
Charlie B.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim InVirginia" <nqrithfordatsun at msn.com>
To: "Mark Sedlack" <msedlack at neo.rr.com>; "Datsun Roadster Mailing List 
(E-mail)" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '66 backup light Correction - '66 license plate 
light


> Ha~!
> You violated what I like to call the "one cup rule"
>
> Never write down anything other people will read until you have been awake
> long enough to consume one cup of coffee!
>
> I was kind of wondering what kind of backup light you were talking about, 
> now
> the mystery is revealed!
> Best Regards and Good Morning
> Jim
> Chesapake Virginia> From: msedlack at neo.rr.com> To: 

From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Sun Nov 11 14:13:03 2007
From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:13:03 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver side door latch
Message-ID: <d31.1ba68625.3468ca5f@aol.com>

I have determined that the door latch (in the door) does not "lock down"  any 
more and the door swings open when going around corners.  Is this a  repair 
situation or does any one have a replacement latch.  The slightest  of effort 
has the swing latch popping up to the open position and there is no  solid 
click when you push it down to the engaged position.
 
Any parts or suggestions greatly appreciated.  BTW this is on the 1970  1600. 
 

Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding member _www.wycroc.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 
1963 SPL310-300161C
1963  SPL310-300289B
1964 SPL310-01289
1970 SRL311-12536
1970  SPL311-28169




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From msedlack at neo.rr.com  Sun Nov 11 14:48:09 2007
From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:48:09 -0400
Subject: [Roadsters] GONE - '66 license plate light
References: <000a01c823ff$7ca463c0$6501a8c0@p428ghz>
	<002b01c82467$ffd10920$6501a8c0@p428ghz>
Message-ID: <009001c824ac$8cec7260$6501a8c0@p428ghz>

GONE to someone on the list

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Sedlack" <msedlack at neo.rr.com>
To: "Datsun Roadster Mailing List (E-mail)"
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '66 backup light Correction - '66 license plate
light


> Correction, its the license plate light that sits on top of the bumper,
not
> the backup light.
> ( I should know better than to post when over tired....)

From j.f at cox.net  Sun Nov 11 15:59:13 2007
From: j.f at cox.net (John Friederich)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 14:59:13 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX
References: <BAY106-F3623AB92FFAC2C7BDA4751DF860@phx.gbl>
	<8C9F294ED022806-1174-34C1@Webmail-mg17.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00a101c824b6$7ac41de0$7d00a8c0@niki>

Plugs / plug wires?

John F
LV, NV '69 2000

----- Original Message -----
From: <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
To: <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX


> Pete,
>
> Maybe water in the gas? Dashpots have enough oil? All fuel? hoses etc
tight? Fuel filter clean?
>
>
>
>
>  Just some ideas until the cavalry arrives..
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 7:56 am
> Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Drove from LAX -> PHX - no problem.
> Filled up w/Circle K Gas (Premuim) - suddenly in 5th at 4K+ engine starts
to
> misfire - want to have everything checked out before I drive to the
> hinterlands.
>
> Any suggestions
>
> Thx
>
>
>
> Peter
> 1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)
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From fergus06 at socal.rr.com  Sun Nov 11 16:47:18 2007
From: fergus06 at socal.rr.com (Fergus OFarrell)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:47:18 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Bent window frame
Message-ID: <00d901c824bd$3280cd60$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176>

Replying to:
____________
Subject: [Roadsters] Bent window frame
Just after removing the pins (straps removed) my friend decides to let go of
the body and it swings towards the floor and passes through at least 110
degrees rotation, slamming the top edge of the windshield frame into the
cement floor.
The frame looks to be cocked 1.5 inches towards the passenger side. Has anyone
had to
deal with this situation (structural problem not my friend) or am I the
only idiot out here?
Steve Harvey
__________

Steve, don't ask why, but I have been thinking about this one, and haven't
seen any replies, so here's my convoluted thoughts on this, all worth less
than .02 USD.

First of all:  "...am I the only idiot out here?"

Answer: You don't have a corner on the market on that one.  Take a number!

Second:
Wow, bummer.
If you try to re-align that frame, you might get it there, but it might be
severly weakened, and so many complex angles to line up with wing windows and
such that it could turn into a nightmare.  One weighty friend helping himself
out of the car (when, of course, the door is open) could ruin everything.

Couple of options (and I am sure there are more).
1. cut a window frame out of a rust-bucket
2. cut the whole window frame out as well as a good portion of the dash
support (leaving what you removed as more structurally stable and easier to
line up).  A good opportunity to swap over to a flat dash, if you are so
inclined.
3. Warning: Way Outta the Box.  Cut it off about 6" up from the base, (or cut
it all off) weld the tops of the doors shut and go topless from now on.  Have
someone fab you a wrap-around piece of plexi.  I think front windshields are
recommended in Lexan, (might be required) for shatter protection.
(like Jeff Torres roadster, or Ron Carter's racecar, got any pics Alvin?)
Note: Lexan is a B@#$H to heat form)

Note: I stopped by Pep Boys for oil change supplies and saw a BMW Z3 done this
way, this was a first and I have found no info on it on the Net. The side
'windows' were only 5-6" tall at the front and ended half way back along the
door.  Insurance company nightmare, wonder at what speed the bugs-in-the-teeth
action stops.  (cause I know the line is >40mph to drive a roadster in the
pouring rain and stay dry!)

Fergus O

From nalevine at dcn.org  Sun Nov 11 17:12:36 2007
From: nalevine at dcn.org (Neil Levine)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:12:36 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Group 53 battery price going through the roof
In-Reply-To: <00d901c824bd$3280cd60$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176>
References: <00d901c824bd$3280cd60$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176>
Message-ID: <000001c824c0$bb0b4d60$6501a8c0@speedyquadcore>

Hi All,

I just had my group 53 battery fail in my '66 1600 after about 17 months. It
had a 40 month warrantee so I didn't think I'd have to pay that much to
replace it prorated. Wrong. It cost me over $80 here in Sacramento and I was
told they charge $137 for them new now. You know, the price of lead has
quadrupled, blah blah blah. 17 months ago they were about $80 new which I
thought was high then. Anyway any suggestions on changing over to a newer
type battery that might cost less? I really don't want to move the battery's
location. I'm sure someone has done this already. Thanks....

Neil

1966 SPL311-06576

From graemes at internode.on.net  Sun Nov 11 17:08:36 2007
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:38:36 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver side door latch
In-Reply-To: <d31.1ba68625.3468ca5f@aol.com>
References: <d31.1ba68625.3468ca5f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001701c824c0$2e389500$426fa8c0@desktop>

Could be a simple a good clean and re-lube.
You may need to dismount it and give it a good scrub up in a solvent to
remove decades of fluff and crud.
I then wipe a layer of White Grease all over the mechanism and work it into
everything with my fingers
Although, being the drivers door, the one that ALWAYS gets used, there may
be some wear and tear involved in the mechanism.
As a quick fix, squirt a dose of WD40 or similar into the latch and see if
that frees it up. 


I have determined that the door latch (in the door) does not "lock down"
any more and the door swings open when going around corners.  Is this a
repair situation or does any one have a replacement latch.  The slightest
of effort has the swing latch popping up to the open position and there is
no  solid click when you push it down to the engaged position.
 

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From geegc at aol.com  Sun Nov 11 17:28:09 2007
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:28:09 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Group 53 battery price going through the roof
In-Reply-To: <000001c824c0$bb0b4d60$6501a8c0@speedyquadcore>
References: <00d901c824bd$3280cd60$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176>
	<000001c824c0$bb0b4d60$6501a8c0@speedyquadcore>
Message-ID: <8C9F2DA0909BC3C-554-7263@mblk-d47.sysops.aol.com>

 I don't recall what number it is but I bought the smallest battery they had at Costco and they (I have 2 roadsters) work fine.

Gary


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Levine <nalevine at dcn.org>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 4:12 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Group 53 battery price going through the roof










Hi All,

I just had my group 53 battery fail in my '66 1600 after about 17 months. It
had a 40 month warrantee so I didn't think I'd have to pay that much to
replace it prorated. Wrong. It cost me over $80 here in Sacramento and I was
told they charge $137 for them new now. You know, the price of lead has
quadrupled, blah blah blah. 17 months ago they were about $80 new which I
thought was high then. Anyway any suggestions on changing over to a newer
type battery that might cost less? I really don't want to move the battery's
location. I'm sure someone has done this already. Thanks....

Neil

1966 SPL311-06576
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sun Nov 11 18:04:37 2007
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:04:37 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Group 53 battery price going through the roof
In-Reply-To: <8C9F2DA0909BC3C-554-7263@mblk-d47.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <000e01c824c8$0246c270$6501a8c0@xp>

...or switch to pretty red or yellow Optima (approx $100):

<http://www.shiftco.com/features/zippy/zippy_037.html>

Either way, you'll probably need to modify/replace the Group 53 battery
tray, but there's room.

                    `  ___  '
Pete               -  (O o)  -
------------------ooO--(_)--Ooo----
Lake Forest Park, WA
1966 1600 SPL311
1966 L20B WPL411


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of geegc at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 4:28 PM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Group 53 battery price going through the roof


 I don't recall what number it is but I bought the smallest battery they had
at Costco and they (I have 2 roadsters) work fine.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Levine <nalevine at dcn.org>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 4:12 pm
Subject: [Roadsters] Group 53 battery price going through the roof


Hi All,

I just had my group 53 battery fail in my '66 1600 after about 17 months. It
had a 40 month warrantee so I didn't think I'd have to pay that much to
replace it prorated. Wrong. It cost me over $80 here in Sacramento and I was
told they charge $137 for them new now. You know, the price of lead has
quadrupled, blah blah blah. 17 months ago they were about $80 new which I
thought was high then. Anyway any suggestions on changing over to a newer
type battery that might cost less? I really don't want to move the battery's
location. I'm sure someone has done this already. Thanks....

Neil

1966 SPL311-06576

From aultgc at jorsm.com  Sun Nov 11 18:57:29 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 19:57:29 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Group 53 battery price going through the roof
References: <00d901c824bd$3280cd60$c6bf1e18@fergus031a2176>
	<000001c824c0$bb0b4d60$6501a8c0@speedyquadcore>
Message-ID: <002f01c824cf$626e38c0$1aa0aa42@gaxp1>

Neil,

I stopped using Group 53s years ago.  I now have what I think is a Group 28 
(?) in mine.  The case is 6-7/8W by 9L by 7H.  It is a Sears Diehard Gold 
model 33035.  Buy a tray which fits, and a hold down (may have to bend some 
bolts to reach the hold down anchor points).  It'll work fine.

Gary Ault
'66 1600/U20

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Neil Levine" <nalevine at dcn.org>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 6:12 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Group 53 battery price going through the roof


> Hi All,
>
> I just had my group 53 battery fail in my '66 1600 after about 17 months. 
> It
> had a 40 month warrantee so I didn't think I'd have to pay that much to
> replace it prorated. Wrong. It cost me over $80 here in Sacramento and I 
> was
> told they charge $137 for them new now. You know, the price of lead has
> quadrupled, blah blah blah. 17 months ago they were about $80 new which I
> thought was high then. Anyway any suggestions on changing over to a newer
> type battery that might cost less? I really don't want to move the 
> battery's
> location. I'm sure someone has done this already. Thanks....
>
> Neil
>
> 1966 SPL311-06576
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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From aultgc at jorsm.com  Sun Nov 11 19:00:11 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 20:00:11 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver side door latch
References: <d31.1ba68625.3468ca5f@aol.com>
	<001701c824c0$2e389500$426fa8c0@desktop>
Message-ID: <004801c824cf$c363ffc0$1aa0aa42@gaxp1>

I am not familiar with the later latches, but I suspect there is some sort 
of spring in the mechanism, as iin the earlier models.  Does the door handle 
return when you "open" the door and release it?  It could be in the door 
part, not the striker.  If the spring goes, or is gummed up as Graeme 
suggested, the door will not latch.  Compare the driver's door part(s) with 
those on the passenger side to see if there is something missing.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graeme" <graemes at internode.on.net>
To: <BARTERDUDE at aol.com>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Cc: <wycroc at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Driver side door latch


> Could be a simple a good clean and re-lube.
> You may need to dismount it and give it a good scrub up in a solvent to
> remove decades of fluff and crud.
> I then wipe a layer of White Grease all over the mechanism and work it 
> into
> everything with my fingers
> Although, being the drivers door, the one that ALWAYS gets used, there may
> be some wear and tear involved in the mechanism.
> As a quick fix, squirt a dose of WD40 or similar into the latch and see if
> that frees it up.
>
>
> I have determined that the door latch (in the door) does not "lock down"
> any more and the door swings open when going around corners.  Is this a
> repair situation or does any one have a replacement latch.  The slightest
> of effort has the swing latch popping up to the open position and there is
> no  solid click when you push it down to the engaged position.
>
>
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1123 - Release Date: 
> 10/11/2007
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From reblues at reblues.net  Sun Nov 11 19:00:51 2007
From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:00:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX
References: <BAY106-F3623AB92FFAC2C7BDA4751DF860@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <009301c824cf$da45d920$6701a8c0@ACER4230>

This past April I made the trip from ATL to PHX.  I spent two weeks there. 
After the first fill up in PHX, at a Circle K, the car started running as 
you described., miss at speed, low power.   On the trip home it got better 
after the first fill up in TX, but not back to the way it was before AZ.

When I got home and checked the plugs they had a yellowish color to them.  I 
replaced them and the car got back to normal.

I thought of a couple of possible causes.  1. The change in humidity in AZ 
throwing off the Solex's mixture causing the plugs to foul.  2. I heard that 
all of AZ gas has a x% of ethanol? or some such thing.  Shell stations here 
in GA have a similar mixture and my car runs like crap on it.   AZ doesn't 
seem to know about 93 octane so I couldn't try that for a cure.  I did run 
regular, 89 octane, most of the trip and the car ran fine, just a little 
power loss.

Maybe a combination of these.  Or something else all together.I don't  think 
it was the Circle K gas.  I filled up at other stations there and the 
problem didn't go away.   That's just what I came up with.  Other than the 
fouled plugs I didn't see any long term effects.  Compression and leak down 
test numbers didn't change.

Hope you have a great trip.  If you come thru ATL, stop by and say hey.

Richard Brown
1970 2000 with Solexes


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX


> Drove from LAX -> PHX - no problem.
> Filled up w/Circle K Gas (Premuim) - suddenly in 5th at 4K+ engine starts 
> to
> misfire - want to have everything checked out before I drive to the
> hinterlands.
>
> Any suggestions
>
> Thx
>
>
>
> Peter
> 1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)
> ________________________________________

From kendelmccarley at cox.net  Sun Nov 11 19:03:08 2007
From: kendelmccarley at cox.net (kendelmccarley at cox.net)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:03:08 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX
In-Reply-To: <009301c824cf$da45d920$6701a8c0@ACER4230>
Message-ID: <20071111210308.DPWZC.308121.root@fed1wml19>

If you're coming through Tucson, I can point you towards a station with 100 octane.


---- Richard Brown <reblues at reblues.net> wrote: 

=============
This past April I made the trip from ATL to PHX.  I spent two weeks there. 
After the first fill up in PHX, at a Circle K, the car started running as 
you described., miss at speed, low power.   On the trip home it got better 
after the first fill up in TX, but not back to the way it was before AZ.

When I got home and checked the plugs they had a yellowish color to them.  I 
replaced them and the car got back to normal.

I thought of a couple of possible causes.  1. The change in humidity in AZ 
throwing off the Solex's mixture causing the plugs to foul.  2. I heard that 
all of AZ gas has a x% of ethanol? or some such thing.  Shell stations here 
in GA have a similar mixture and my car runs like crap on it.   AZ doesn't 
seem to know about 93 octane so I couldn't try that for a cure.  I did run 
regular, 89 octane, most of the trip and the car ran fine, just a little 
power loss.

Maybe a combination of these.  Or something else all together.I don't  think 
it was the Circle K gas.  I filled up at other stations there and the 
problem didn't go away.   That's just what I came up with.  Other than the 
fouled plugs I didn't see any long term effects.  Compression and leak down 
test numbers didn't change.

Hope you have a great trip.  If you come thru ATL, stop by and say hey.

Richard Brown
1970 2000 with Solexes


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX


> Drove from LAX -> PHX - no problem.
> Filled up w/Circle K Gas (Premuim) - suddenly in 5th at 4K+ engine starts 
> to
> misfire - want to have everything checked out before I drive to the
> hinterlands.
>
> Any suggestions
>
> Thx
>
>
>
> Peter
> 1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)
> ________________________________________
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From reblues at reblues.net  Sun Nov 11 19:20:33 2007
From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:20:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX
References: <20071111210308.DPWZC.308121.root@fed1wml19>
Message-ID: <00a301c824d2$9aca7230$6701a8c0@ACER4230>

Darn,  I just didn't ask the right person where the good gas was!

Richard

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <kendelmccarley at cox.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX


> If you're coming through Tucson, I can point you towards a station with 
> 100 octane.
>
>
> ---- Richard Brown <reblues at reblues.net> wrote:
>
> =============
> This past April I made the trip from ATL to PHX.  I spent two weeks there.
> After the first fill up in PHX, at a Circle K, the car started running as
> you described., miss at speed, low power.   On the trip home it got better
> after the first fill up in TX, but not back to the way it was before AZ.
>
> When I got home and checked the plugs they had a yellowish color to them. 
> I
> replaced them and the car got back to normal.
>
> I thought of a couple of possible causes.  1. The change in humidity in AZ
> throwing off the Solex's mixture causing the plugs to foul.  2. I heard 
> that
> all of AZ gas has a x% of ethanol? or some such thing.  Shell stations 
> here
> in GA have a similar mixture and my car runs like crap on it.   AZ doesn't
> seem to know about 93 octane so I couldn't try that for a cure.  I did run
> regular, 89 octane, most of the trip and the car ran fine, just a little
> power loss.
>
> Maybe a combination of these.  Or something else all together.I don't 
> think
> it was the Circle K gas.  I filled up at other stations there and the
> problem didn't go away.   That's just what I came up with.  Other than the
> fouled plugs I didn't see any long term effects.  Compression and leak 
> down
> test numbers didn't change.
>
> Hope you have a great trip.  If you come thru ATL, stop by and say hey.
>
> Richard Brown
> 1970 2000 with Solexes
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:56 AM
> Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX
>
>
>> Drove from LAX -> PHX - no problem.
>> Filled up w/Circle K Gas (Premuim) - suddenly in 5th at 4K+ engine starts
>> to
>> misfire - want to have everything checked out before I drive to the
>> hinterlands.
>>
>> Any suggestions
>>
>> Thx
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter
>> 1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)
>> ________________________________________
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sun Nov 11 20:07:59 2007
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:07:59 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] need a part
References: <4731D9FA.1000606@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <000201c824d9$3c507c70$800101df@garage.local>

hi, guys.

i'm in need of a part, for a low windshield car (1600 - 1967).  i'm guessing 
67 and earlier, altho i don't know for sure when they changed.

its the connector for the headlight through the fender.  i just need one 
more . . .

doesn't have to be pretty; i'd prefer wires any length still attached so i 
can splice them.

anyone have one from a parts car they'd be willing to sell????

http://www.ranteer.com/misc/

thanks!!!!!!!! 

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Sun Nov 11 21:38:22 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:38:22 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  X-Country - Need Mechanic in PHX
Message-ID: <018201c824e5$dbf42360$6600a8c0@chrissy>

Now we are on a subject I know, clogged fuel system. If the only change was
new gas, I would guess you got a load of water, or some rust broke loose in
the tank. If you back down on the engine speed, does it run normally?  If it
were me, first one or two bottles of DryGas and I would replace the fuel
filter, pick up 2 more spares.  If you can't find the correct one, get the
clear universal ones, should be 1/4" hose size.  When you have the filter
off, remove the gas cap and blow back through the line, shouldn't be too
difficult and you should be able to hear the bubbles at the filler neck. If
it's REALLY hard to blow back the line and suddenly gets easy, you may have
cleared the clog. I used a piece of metal tubing, hate the taste of gas.
When you stop blowing, it may flow back out, so point in a safe direction or
put right back on the filter.  Put on the new filter and go.  I had to do
this about 8 or 10 times after replacing the fuel tank till all the junk
came out. Run out as much of the gas as you can, or if really worried, stop
in a local service station and get it drained from the plug  or siphon it
out.

Other much more remote possibilities:
1.   I don't know if the 70 had a sealed gas cap, or if all your emmission
stuff is hooked up, but I doubt that's it.  If it was a venting problem, if
you took off the gas cap while the problem was occuring, you would hear it
suck in air.

2.   Fuel pump on the way out, pick up a spare, gaskets and any req'd tools.

3.  Leak in the line between the tank and fuel pump allowing it to suck air,
cracked hose loose clamp etc.

4. Inlet screens on carbs clogged.  You need new copper washers to open up
and check them.  Don't do it on a hot engine, fuel will run onto exhaust.

Best of luck
Dave



Drove from LAX -> PHX - no problem.
Filled up w/Circle K Gas (Premuim) - suddenly in 5th at 4K+ engine starts to

misfire - want to have everything checked out before I drive to the
hinterlands.

From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Sun Nov 11 21:53:35 2007
From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:53:35 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver side door latch
Message-ID: <c16.26a6c9c7.3469364f@aol.com>

Seems all the parts and there.  When I release the screws holding it  to the 
door, it snapped down and stayed in place, so I will try Grames  suggestion 
and soak it good in penetrating oil.  It seems to be a bugger to  get the piece 
out of the door with the outside key lock, the door lock, and the  door handle 
inside and out all attached to this piece, nothing seems to be easy  release.
 
Try it tomorrow to see if this is junked up.  Thanks.  

Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 
1963 SPL310-00161C (Single  Carb)
1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb)
1964 SPL310-01289
1969  SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70)
1970 SPL311-28169 




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From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 11 22:44:22 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:44:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Group 53 battery price going through the roof
In-Reply-To: <000001c824c0$bb0b4d60$6501a8c0@speedyquadcore>
Message-ID: <64176.63392.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Neil,
If the group 53 is what I think it is, it is the same battery I have to have for under the back seat in my 64.  
I paid $160 for one...two actually, because the first one wouldn't even hold a charge. The second one died...had a bad cell after 18 months. (Hmmmm, see a pattern here?)  I decided not to even bother with Gardena batteries again.  A month or so ago, I found one at "Batteries Plus" for $80.  They are not cheap and getting hard to find here in Orange County.  If you don't drive the car much, I highly recommend getting one of those  "battery tenders" to automatically keep it fully charged, like I did...finally.  If you do not have to have the 53, I'd vote to change it.  Isn't your battery located under the hood?  
Patti 

Neil Levine <nalevine at dcn.org> wrote: Hi All,

I just had my group 53 battery fail in my '66 1600 after about 17 months. It
had a 40 month warrantee so I didn't think I'd have to pay that much to
replace it prorated. Wrong. It cost me over $80 here in Sacramento and I was
told they charge $137 for them new now. You know, the price of lead has
quadrupled, blah blah blah. 17 months ago they were about $80 new which I
thought was high then. Anyway any suggestions on changing over to a newer
type battery that might cost less? I really don't want to move the battery's
location. I'm sure someone has done this already. Thanks....

Neil

1966 SPL311-06576
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From aultgc at jorsm.com  Mon Nov 12 00:23:13 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:23:13 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver side door latch
References: <c16.26a6c9c7.3469364f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004c01c824fc$e3b61a60$0aa0aa42@gaxp1>

When I went through the body on my carin 1993, I dismantled the entire door
and window mechanisms, removed all old grease, and re-lubed everything.  It
all seems to work well, but was real stiff before said cleaning.

I think the stuff is easier to access if you remove the window glass.  Door
lock should be held only by a sliding spring clip, removed with the flat blade
of a screwdriver.

Gary
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com
  To: aultgc at jorsm.com ; graemes at internode.on.net ;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
  Cc: wycroc at yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Driver side door latch


  Seems all the parts and there.  When I release the screws holding it to the
door, it snapped down and stayed in place, so I will try Grames suggestion and
soak it good in penetrating oil.  It seems to be a bugger to get the piece out
of the door with the outside key lock, the door lock, and the door handle
inside and out all attached to this piece, nothing seems to be easy release.

  Try it tomorrow to see if this is junked up.  Thanks.

  Gary Lasater - Parker CO
  founding member www.WyCROC.org
  1963 SPL310-00161C (Single Carb)
  1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb)
  1964 SPL310-01289
  1969 SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70)
  1970 SPL311-28169





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From CBrucciani at archinsurance.com  Mon Nov 12 06:08:55 2007
From: CBrucciani at archinsurance.com (Brucciani, Chris)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:08:55 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Group 53 battery price going through the roof
Message-ID: <D62FF54BDD2C4949A50BCDE34642014DF5CFA2@NWKEXCH03.corp.archcapservices.com>

I bought this same battery last week - $163!  Prices must be going up.

"Pete Peters" wrote:
"...or switch to pretty red or yellow Optima (approx $100):"
http://www.shiftco.com/features/zippy/zippy_037.html

Chris Brucciani
Marietta, GA
1973 240Z
1995 Miata
1998 BMW 540i6



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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Mon Nov 12 07:11:57 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:11:57 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties Needed
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0711120611l57b04265qb74c4d6793f3cbac@mail.gmail.com>

Hey List,
A couple of weeks ago I put out a request for some twisties. I have
put a new dash pad on my car and it needs twisties. Several of you
responded. It turns out that my friend that had some could not find
them, so I am still in need.  I need four twisties for the dash.
Does anyone has some extras they with would find a new home?

~Chris

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one.

From tputland at charter.net  Mon Nov 12 07:34:45 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 6:34:45 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Gas cap--1970
Message-ID: <20071112093445.HYYLR.167526.root@fepweb13>

If I am reading one of my books correctly, the 70 cars did not come with a locking gas cap. Is this indeed true and accurate? If so, does this include all 70s? Or just US cars? Doesn't someone on this list have a RHD 70? If so I would really like to hear from you. 

I plan on changing to a locking cap but would like to know what was done at the factory. 

Thanks

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Nov 12 07:29:15 2007
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:29:15 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties Needed
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0711120611l57b04265qb74c4d6793f3cbac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b0b0059f0711120611l57b04265qb74c4d6793f3cbac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4738633B.5070802@hornesystemstx.com>

The dash twisties I picked up for my 67.5 are black. Are all years that way?

Peace,
Past

Thusly spake Chris & Christy Breyer:
> Hey List,
> A couple of weeks ago I put out a request for some twisties. I have
> put a new dash pad on my car and it needs twisties. Several of you
> responded. It turns out that my friend that had some could not find
> them, so I am still in need.  I need four twisties for the dash.
> Does anyone has some extras they with would find a new home?
>
> ~Chris
>
>   


-- 
Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems 
(512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
www.hornesystemstx.com
-- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --

From aultgc at jorsm.com  Mon Nov 12 11:32:27 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:32:27 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties Needed
Message-ID: <200711121832.lACIWRKb022390@outbound-mta.egix.net>

   Black   would   be   nice.   The  only  ones  I  have  ever  seen  are
   nickel-plated, thus silver.  Where did you find black?
   Gary Ault
   On Mon Nov 12 9:29 , Pat Horne sent:
   
     The  dash twisties I picked up for my 67.5 are black. Are all years
     that way?
     Peace,
     Past
     Thusly spake Chris & Christy Breyer:
     > Hey List,
     >  A  couple  of weeks ago I put out a request for some twisties. I
     have
     >  put  a  new dash pad on my car and it needs twisties. Several of
     you
     >  responded.  It  turns out that my friend that had some could not
     find
     > them, so I am still in need. I need four twisties for the dash.
     > Does anyone has some extras they with would find a new home?
     >
     > ~Chris
     >
     >
     --
     Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems
     (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001
     Pat at Horn eSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
     www.hornesystemstx.com
     -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --
     ________________________________________
     aultgc at jorsm.c om
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From ron.davis3 at att.net  Mon Nov 12 13:51:35 2007
From: ron.davis3 at att.net (Ron Davis)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:51:35 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries
Message-ID: <000901c8256d$d0ec4ff0$6501a8c0@ron>

Hi Guy's, to help in the battery replacement thread, let me suggest an
alternative to the grp53. Consider using instead a group size 51R.  I have one
in my 69 2000, and have installed them into two others. Performance far
exceeds the cars requirements and it is just the right size to fit into our
engine bay.I am an Interstate Battery dealer and use # MT51R List$87.95/
Sell(our shop) at$74.90.
Specs:L-9 3/8"x  W-5 1/8"x H-8 7/8"
  CA at 32 deg-625
  CCA at 0 deg-500
  Reserve capacity(minutes)@25amps at 80deg=85

  Hope this helps, Ron Davis

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Mon Nov 12 14:05:33 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:05:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Batteries
In-Reply-To: <000901c8256d$d0ec4ff0$6501a8c0@ron>
Message-ID: <11781652.3735351194901533846.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

I've used a large lawn mower battery for years with no problem.  Some are in the 370 cca range.  The ones I've been using are 430 cca.

Andy

From datsunroadsters at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 12 14:56:03 2007
From: datsunroadsters at yahoo.com (Eddie Wu)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:56:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] NEEDED: chrome toggle switch bezel (4 hole)
Message-ID: <812149.79535.qm@web50711.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hi List,

I'm looking for the chrome bezel trimpiece that surrounds the 4 (lights, fog, wiper, heater,)
toggle switches on an early-model ('66) dash.  

Does anyone have an unbent one available?  I don't care about the condition of the chrome.

Thanks,
Eddie
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http://mail.yahoo.com 

From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com  Mon Nov 12 20:13:36 2007
From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:13:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Was   Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
In-Reply-To: <4738633B.5070802@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <b0b0059f0711120611l57b04265qb74c4d6793f3cbac@mail.gmail.com>
	<4738633B.5070802@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <BAY109-W34AB3BA25E16A3B590619BF800@phx.gbl>

For all:
67.5 was the first little twinge of the federal government making rules for
cars.  One early attempt was to make less shiny things inside the car that
could blind or distract the driver by sun reflection.

Thats why 67.5 had the instrument bezels painted black, and per the below
post, probably also the twisties.  Now, in 68 the full initial treatment of
federal law took place, and we get the taller windscreen (so the wipers could
wipe a legal square footage, same reason MGB went to 3 wipers), padded dash,
no more toggle switches that could poke peoples guts in an accident, etc etc
etc.

Not sure if the twisties stayed black after 67.5, or if folks figured out that
it really didnt make much difference.

There.  Thats my little bit of trivia for the day.
Best Regards,
Jim
Chesapeake Virginia> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:29:15 -0600> From:
roadsters at hornesystemstx.com> To: fairlady66 at gmail.com> CC:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Twisties Needed> >
The dash twisties I picked up for my 67.5 are black. Are all years that way?>
> Peace,> Past> > Thusly spake Chris & Christy Breyer:> > Hey List,> > A
couple of weeks ago I put out a request for some twisties. I have> > put a new
dash pad on my car and it needs twisties. Several of you> > responded. It
turns out that my friend that had some could not find> > them, so I am still
in need. I need four twisties for the dash.> > Does anyone has some extras
they with would find a new home?> >> > ~Chris> >> > > > > -- > Pat Horne,
Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001>
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443> www.hornesystemstx.com> -- We
support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --

From bradandgayle at charter.net  Mon Nov 12 20:59:46 2007
From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:59:46 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Was   Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
References: <b0b0059f0711120611l57b04265qb74c4d6793f3cbac@mail.gmail.com><4738633B.5070802@hornesystemstx.com>
	<BAY109-W34AB3BA25E16A3B590619BF800@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003f01c825a9$a1b05dd0$9b02a8c0@holmes>

I just took the dash out of my '70 - 2000 and the dash twisters were black 
and looked to be the originals.

Brad Holmes
SEROC
Montgomery, AL

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim InVirginia" <nqrithfordatsun at msn.com>
To: <roadsters at hornesystemstx.com>; "Chris & Christy Breyer" 
<fairlady66 at gmail.com>
Cc: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:13 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Was Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black


> For all:
> 67.5 was the first little twinge of the federal government making rules 
> for
> cars.  One early attempt was to make less shiny things inside the car that
> could blind or distract the driver by sun reflection.
>
> Thats why 67.5 had the instrument bezels painted black, and per the below
> post, probably also the twisties.  Now, in 68 the full initial treatment 
> of
> federal law took place, and we get the taller windscreen (so the wipers 
> could
> wipe a legal square footage, same reason MGB went to 3 wipers), padded 
> dash,
> no more toggle switches that could poke peoples guts in an accident, etc 
> etc
> etc.
>
> Not sure if the twisties stayed black after 67.5, or if folks figured out 
> that
> it really didnt make much difference.
>
> There.  Thats my little bit of trivia for the day.
> Best Regards,
> Jim
> Chesapeake Virginia> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:29:15 -0600> From:
> roadsters at hornesystemstx.com> To: fairlady66 at gmail.com> CC:
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Twisties Needed> 
>  >
> The dash twisties I picked up for my 67.5 are black. Are all years that 
> way?>
>> Peace,> Past> > Thusly spake Chris & Christy Breyer:> > Hey List,> > A
> couple of weeks ago I put out a request for some twisties. I have> > put a 
> new
> dash pad on my car and it needs twisties. Several of you> > responded. It
> turns out that my friend that had some could not find> > them, so I am 
> still
> in need. I need four twisties for the dash.> > Does anyone has some extras
> they with would find a new home?> >> > ~Chris> >> > > > > -- > Pat Horne,
> Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001>
> Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443> www.hornesystemstx.com> --  
> We
> support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Mon Nov 12 21:20:38 2007
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:20:38 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
Message-ID: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGKEMPECAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

This guy must have gone to the Dick Cheney School of Automotive Repaier.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jLAE9HuEZg17QRe1lpqLc_tDYLjAD8SSA6200
Gordon Glasgow 
Renton, WA 
www.gordon-glasgow.org 

"The difference between what we do
and what we are capable of doing
would suffice to solve most of the world's problems."
- Mahatma Gandhi

From yates at sasktel.net  Tue Nov 13 05:07:51 2007
From: yates at sasktel.net (Dan & Louise)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:07:51 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
In-Reply-To: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGKEMPECAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
References: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGKEMPECAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <47399397.4080004@sasktel.net>

I'd still rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.

Dan

Gordon Glasgow wrote:

>This guy must have gone to the Dick Cheney School of Automotive Repaier.
>
>http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jLAE9HuEZg17QRe1lpqLc_tDYLjAD8SSA6200
>Gordon Glasgow 
>Renton, WA 
>www.gordon-glasgow.org 
>
>"The difference between what we do
>and what we are capable of doing
>would suffice to solve most of the world's problems."
>- Mahatma Gandhi
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>
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From BARTERDUDE at aol.com  Tue Nov 13 07:48:17 2007
From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:48:17 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver's side door latch - update
Message-ID: <d09.215c5b85.346b1331@aol.com>

Interesting.  My son and I soaked the latch in brake cleaner, but that  
didn't do the job, but when we started feeling around in the inside of the door,  
we discovered an "adjustment" nut on the rod coming from the outside door  
handle.  After experimenting with the positioning, we discovered it was  best to 
set it tighter, and the locking mechanism stayed in place with more  
tensioning.  Apparently over the years of use the nut had backed off, thus  causing the 
latch to not stay in locked position when triggered.
 
FYI, we also sprayed white lithium grease on the mechanism after adjusting  
and everything works beautifully now.
 
Thanks for the suggestions.  

Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 
1963 SPL310-00161C (Single  Carb)
1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb)
1964 SPL310-01289
1969  SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70)
1970 SPL311-28169 




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From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Tue Nov 13 08:16:24 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:16:24 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
Message-ID: <32560368.1194966984774.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Thank god neither of them could fit in a roadster.

N

-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan & Louise <yates at sasktel.net>
>Sent: Nov 13, 2007 4:07 AM
>To: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>Cc: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
>
>I'd still rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.
>
>Dan
>
>Gordon Glasgow wrote:
>
>>This guy must have gone to the Dick Cheney School of Automotive Repaier.
>>
>>http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jLAE9HuEZg17QRe1lpqLc_tDYLjAD8SSA6200
>>Gordon Glasgow 
>>Renton, WA 
>>www.gordon-glasgow.org 
>>
>>"The difference between what we do
>>and what we are capable of doing
>>would suffice to solve most of the world's problems."
>>- Mahatma Gandhi
>>________________________________________
>>
>>yates at sasktel.net
>>
>>Datsun-roadsters mailing list
>>
>>http://www.team.net/archive
>>
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters
>________________________________________
>
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From jsk977 at optonline.net  Tue Nov 13 08:45:33 2007
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:45:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Was   Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
References: <b0b0059f0711120611l57b04265qb74c4d6793f3cbac@mail.gmail.com>
	<4738633B.5070802@hornesystemstx.com>
	<BAY109-W34AB3BA25E16A3B590619BF800@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000701c8260c$3a286cd0$6402a8c0@HP1450>

Don't know if there was any variation during the  production year but I've 
owned my 67.5 SRL since new and the twisties are plain stainless color, not 
black.

Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099 

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Tue Nov 13 08:56:10 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:56:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
In-Reply-To: <32560368.1194966984774.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <27219653.4017131194969370639.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

I think both could fit in a Roadster.  Unfortunately, Roadsters don't float too well.  Can you say Chappaquiddick?


>I'd still rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.

From jsk977 at optonline.net  Tue Nov 13 08:58:42 2007
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:58:42 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
References: <32560368.1194966984774.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <002401c8260e$10969200$6402a8c0@HP1450>

How about Ted taking Dick on a hunting trip to Cape Cod......two (dodo) 
birds with one stone?
 BTW if they did fit in a roadster there wouldn't be any arguments about who 
sat on the right or left.

Jerry Krakauer
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: "Dan & Louise" <yates at sasktel.net>; "Gordon Glasgow" 
<gsglasgow at comcast.net>
Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee


> Thank god neither of them could fit in a roadster.
>
> N
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: Dan & Louise <yates at sasktel.net>
>>Sent: Nov 13, 2007 4:07 AM
>>To: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>>Cc: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
>>
>>I'd still rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.
>>
>>Dan

From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Tue Nov 13 09:02:26 2007
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:02:26 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Was   Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
In-Reply-To: <000701c8260c$3a286cd0$6402a8c0@HP1450>
References: <b0b0059f0711120611l57b04265qb74c4d6793f3cbac@mail.gmail.com><4738633B.5070802@hornesystemstx.com><BAY109-W34AB3BA25E16A3B590619BF800@phx.gbl>
	<000701c8260c$3a286cd0$6402a8c0@HP1450>
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF762A8AE1@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

 These cars have all kinds of variations.  Mike has a documented early
'66 that came with black bezels on the speedo and tack - the rest of the
gages are chrome as one would expect.

-----Original Message-----

Don't know if there was any variation during the  production year but
I've owned my 67.5 SRL since new and the twisties are plain stainless
color, not black.

Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Tue Nov 13 09:06:30 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:06:30 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
Message-ID: <25711045.1194969991160.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Good point. Since Dick would sit on the right, Ted would be driving. The ride might get wet, but at least nobody would be driving the car off a cliff.

N

-----Original Message-----
>From: Jerry Krakauer <jsk977 at optonline.net>
>Sent: Nov 13, 2007 7:58 AM
>To: nmleeds at mindspring.com, Dan & Louise <yates at sasktel.net>, Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>Cc: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
>
>How about Ted taking Dick on a hunting trip to Cape Cod......two (dodo) 
>birds with one stone?
> BTW if they did fit in a roadster there wouldn't be any arguments about who 
>sat on the right or left.
>
>Jerry Krakauer
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
>To: "Dan & Louise" <yates at sasktel.net>; "Gordon Glasgow" 
><gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>Cc: "Roadster List" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:16 AM
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
>
>
>> Thank god neither of them could fit in a roadster.
>>
>> N
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Dan & Louise <yates at sasktel.net>
>>>Sent: Nov 13, 2007 4:07 AM
>>>To: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow at comcast.net>
>>>Cc: Roadster List <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
>>>
>>>I'd still rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.
>>>
>>>Dan

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Tue Nov 13 09:08:19 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:08:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Rack
Message-ID: <853263.4022661194970099615.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

Who was it that put a rack and pinion in the roadster?B  I'm looking at
options for power steering.B  A power rack or a power box.B  If anyone has
information about what power box or which power rack will work please let me
know.B  The huge front slicks with a large scrub radius is hard on my elbows
and shoulders.B  The large steering wheel needed makes for a lot of movement
to get the job done.



Thanks,

Andy

From sales at foilgraphics.com  Tue Nov 13 09:21:06 2007
From: sales at foilgraphics.com (Guy)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:21:06 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster rotisserie progress
References: <47373953.4050106@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003601c82611$3b3c0d70$6e01a8c0@sales2006>

Thanks for the photos and explanation.  I will be construting my own version 
in the next month.
Guy
67.5
Chandler, AZ



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Solomon" <d-solomon at comcast.net>
To: "'Datsun Roadster List'" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 10:18 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] roadster rotisserie progress


> once again, my message never made it to the list.  I'll try again. 3rd
> try is the charm?
>
> I loaded my roadster onto my own home-built rotisserie this weekend.
> I've linked pics below. I found that my pivot points were quite
> different from Graeme's.  This could be due to the weight of the
> carriage I built.  I'm not sure.
> http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/d-solomon/?action=view&current=DVC01355.jpg
>
> http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/d-solomon/?action=view&current=DVC01356.jpg
>
> http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/d-solomon/?action=view&current=DVC01357.jpg
>
>
> For the rotating parts, I used the rear hubs from a late model FWD
> chevy.  $5/ea. at the pull-a-part.  I built it so that every dimension
> is adjustable.  Hopefully this will allow me to sell it when I'm done,
> rather than junk it.
> The one thing I'm unhappy with is the casters.  I skimped and bought 'em
> at Harbor Freight.  While they seem to carry the weight fine, they don't
> like to change directions... ie:  they don't "caster".  I'll likely end
> up changing them out over time.
> Once I got it in the air, I was able to see all of the surprises that
> the previous "restorer" left for me.  ie: bondo a full inch thick on the
> rocker panels, covering rusted-through metal.  They placed mesh tape
> behind the holes to hold the bondo in place.  I've got alot of time
> ahead of me on the body work. I'll need to replace both rockers,
> drivers-side floor, trunk floor, rear edge of both rear wheel-arches,
> and then the front inner fenders....(depending on how much remains after
> I cut it all up for the new motor....)
>
> just an update. hope y'all have a great weekend.
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From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Tue Nov 13 09:30:10 2007
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:30:10 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Rack
In-Reply-To: <853263.4022661194970099615.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
References: <853263.4022661194970099615.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF762A8B1A@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

 Andy - I put a rack in a Roadster in the early 80's.  I put the rack in
front of the x-member and the tie rods were angled back too far.  The
best solution is to notch the x-member and set it inside so the tie rods
are straight.  One may also reverse the spindle so the tie rods are
forward of the axle centerline.  I have a spare front section from a
frame and extra front ends - one day I will work on this again....  One
day....

-----Original Message-----
From:
Subject: [Roadsters] Rack

Who was it that put a rack and pinion in the roadster?B  I'm looking at
options for power steering.B  A power rack or a power box.B  If anyone
has information about what power box or which power rack will work
please let me know.B  The huge front slicks with a large scrub radius is
hard on my elbows and shoulders.B  The large steering wheel needed makes
for a lot of movement to get the job done.



Thanks,

Andy
__

From matt at vander-bend.com  Tue Nov 13 09:50:00 2007
From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:50:00 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] sighting San Jose Ca- WIP
In-Reply-To: <853263.4022661194970099615.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <PBEDIDPDDAGOBOBPMMADGEIKCHAA.matt@vander-bend.com>

Hey All,
Spied a 68 Roadster through the roll up door of Brother's Auto-Body on
Coleman near Taylor, San Jose.
Car was primmer but well on it's way to some shinny new paint!!

Anyone?
Matt
Gilroy Ca

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Tue Nov 13 10:00:34 2007
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:00:34 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Was   Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
In-Reply-To: <000701c8260c$3a286cd0$6402a8c0@HP1450>
Message-ID: <C35F1832.47B7%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

Owning a 67.5, or any other Datsun Roadster, "since new" is pretty amazing.

Is there anyone else out there that can make that claim? Just curious.

Greg
SRL31100494
"Roadstering since '75"





On 11/13/07 7:45 AM, "Jerry Krakauer" <jsk977 at optonline.net> wrote:

> Don't know if there was any variation during the  production year but I've
> owned my 67.5 SRL since new and the twisties are plain stainless color, not
> black.
> 
> Jerry Krakauer
> SRL311 00099 
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> 
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue Nov 13 10:20:54 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:20:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Original owners...was twisties
In-Reply-To: <C35F1832.47B7%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <20071113122054.LXAX2.230317.root@fepweb15>

Well, I am not the first owner of my 70 1600 but my dad bought this car new in April of 1970 and had it until May of 2006 when he gave it to me. I grew up in this car and cannot remember how many times Dad and I took it night skiing at Boreal Ridge up near Tahoe. 

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- "Gregory S. Morrison" <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com> wrote: 
> Owning a 67.5, or any other Datsun Roadster, "since new" is pretty amazing.
> 
> Is there anyone else out there that can make that claim? Just curious.
> 
> Greg
> SRL31100494
> "Roadstering since '75"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/13/07 7:45 AM, "Jerry Krakauer" <jsk977 at optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> > Don't know if there was any variation during the  production year but I've
> > owned my 67.5 SRL since new and the twisties are plain stainless color, not
> > black.
> > 
> > Jerry Krakauer
> > SRL311 00099 
> > ________________________________________

From konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com  Tue Nov 13 10:38:02 2007
From: konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com (David R. Conrad)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 07:38:02 -1000
Subject: [Roadsters] Was   Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
In-Reply-To: <C35F1832.47B7%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <2EE34B31-920F-11DC-A269-000A27DC00A0@hawaii.rr.com>

I've owned the engine, tranny, and rear bumper of my 67.5 (now with my 
'68) "since new", but sadly due to practical exigencies in moving from 
and back to Hawaii, the majority of it had to be left in Maryland in 
'89.

Dave

On Tuesday, November 13, 2007, at 07:00 AM, Gregory S. Morrison wrote:

> Owning a 67.5, or any other Datsun Roadster, "since new" is pretty 
> amazing.
>
> Is there anyone else out there that can make that claim? Just curious.
>
> Greg
> SRL31100494
> "Roadstering since '75"

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 13 10:52:15 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:52:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Owners
In-Reply-To: <C35F1832.47B7%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <423112.89235.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hey Greg!
My Dad bought my 64 in Oct. 63.  I bought it from him in 69. Does that qualify  me as owner "since new"?
Patti

"Gregory S. Morrison" <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com> wrote: Owning a 67.5, or any other Datsun Roadster, "since new" is pretty amazing.

Is there anyone else out there that can make that claim? Just curious.

Greg
SRL31100494
"Roadstering since '75"



       
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From samtheinept at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 13 11:09:42 2007
From: samtheinept at sbcglobal.net (Gary Russell)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:09:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Owners
In-Reply-To: <423112.89235.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <125629.96901.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've had my 67.5 2L solex "since new". Twisties are chrome or stainless.
  Gary Russell
  SRL31100277

Patti Dwinell <fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com> wrote:
  Hey Greg!
My Dad bought my 64 in Oct. 63. I bought it from him in 69. Does that qualify me as owner "since new"?
Patti

"Gregory S. Morrison" wrote: Owning a 67.5, or any other Datsun Roadster, "since new" is pretty amazing.

Is there anyone else out there that can make that claim? Just curious.

Greg
SRL31100494
"Roadstering since '75"




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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Tue Nov 13 11:10:03 2007
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:10:03 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Was   Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
References: <C35F1832.47B7%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <015e01c82620$75c1c020$b621ffd8@hpcustomer>

  I have a friend (not on the list) here in Ohio who still owns his 1500
roadster that he bought new in California.  Maybe not a sought after as a
67.5, but older.  Unfortunately, the 1500 is awaiting restoration.  The
block is frozen, but the car is complete and has been stored dry since 1976.

Paul
Ohio

----- Original Message -----
From: Gregory S. Morrison <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com>


> Owning a 67.5, or any other Datsun Roadster, "since new" is pretty
amazing.
> Is there anyone else out there that can make that claim? Just curious.
>
> Greg
> SRL31100494
> "Roadstering since '75"

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Tue Nov 13 11:12:05 2007
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:12:05 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Peter's travels?
Message-ID: <016a01c82620$b648ea60$b621ffd8@hpcustomer>

  Does somebody know if Peter Harrison has posted his itinerary for his trip
from out west to the east coast?

Paul
Ohio

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 13 12:03:03 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:03:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:  Peter's Roadster X-Country Trip
Message-ID: <329628.55873.qm@web53508.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Paul,
All I got is this.....


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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Tue Nov 13 12:20:01 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:20:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone in Parma, Michigan?
Message-ID: <24218903.4088511194981601311.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

I want to buy some coil-over springsB on EBAY thatB are local pickup only in
Parma, Michigan.B  Is there someone willing to go getB them and ship to me?



Thanks,



Andy

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 13 12:31:14 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:31:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] OOPS!  Let's try this for the 3rd time - Peter's trip
Message-ID: <47408.38656.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Next Thursday (November 15th) I will be leaving Phoenix (I will be in 
Phoenix from Friday eve through Thursday morning) for Washington DC via
 
Flagstaff/Winslow/Oklahoma City, returning through Aiken SC and Fort
 Worth 
driving Eliza ( my roadster )

There is some flexibility in the route so if there are any roadster
 owners 
in the vicinity, please give me a call (818) 448 3181 and maybe we can
 hook 
up.

A 37 year old car and a 59 year old driver should make for an
 interesting 
adventure.

Hope to see some of you enroute

Peter
1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)





>Phoenix to Oklahoma City via Flagstaff/Albuquerque
>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=Phoenix,+AZ&daddr=Flagstaff,+AZ+to:winslow+to:albuquerque,nm+to:oklahoma+city,+ok&mra=pi&mrcr=3&dirflg=h&sll=34.270836,-112.203369&sspn=0.642324,1.461182&ie=UTF8&z=5&om=1
>
>Oklahoma City to Arlington Virginia
>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=oklahoma+city,ok&daddr=1216+no.+powhatan,arlington,va+22205&sll=34.49726,-104.80142&sspn=20.227578,34.101562&dirflg=h&ie=UTF8&ll=37.405074,-87.319336&spn=19.508651,34.101563&z=5&om=1
>
>Arlington Virgina to Los Angeles via South Carolina, Fort Worth (ish)
>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=no+powhatan,+arlington,+va+22205&daddr=aiken,+south+carolina+to:sundance+court,+hudson+oaks,+tx+76087+to:17233+hemmingway+street,+van+nuys,+ca+91406&mra=pi&mrcr=2&dirflg=h&sll=35.678635,-87.47164&sspn=19.941352,34.101563&ie=UTF8&z=4&om=1
>Peter
 
       
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From roadsterx at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 13 12:37:09 2007
From: roadsterx at hotmail.com (michael poorboy)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:37:09 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Owners
In-Reply-To: <125629.96901.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <423112.89235.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<125629.96901.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY110-W38AA0FF9D60BCC7992660FBF800@phx.gbl>

I believe Paul Jaremko has his 63' 1500 that he won won Nissans first SCCA
race with. If my memory is correct
he sold it and then bought it back years latter.

Mike> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:09:42 -0800> From: samtheinept at sbcglobal.net>
To: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com; gsm at gregorysmorrison.com> CC:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Owners> >
I've had my 67.5 2L solex "since new". Twisties are chrome or stainless.> Gary
Russell> SRL31100277> > Patti Dwinell <fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com> wrote:>
Hey Greg!> My Dad bought my 64 in Oct. 63. I bought it from him in 69. Does
that qualify me as owner "since new"?> Patti> > "Gregory S. Morrison" wrote:
Owning a 67.5, or any other Datsun Roadster, "since new" is pretty amazing.> >
Is there anyone else out there that can make that claim? Just curious.> >
Greg> SRL31100494> "Roadstering since '75"> > > > >
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Tue Nov 13 12:40:05 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:40:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] OOPS! Let's try this for the 3rd time - Peter's trip
In-Reply-To: <47408.38656.qm@web53503.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <28007331.4098291194982805640.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

I'm not sure when you are coming through Ft. Worth but you are welcome to stop by and see the tube framed supercharged KA24DE roadster.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Patti Dwinell" <fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:31:14 PM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
Subject: [Roadsters] OOPS!  Let's try this for the 3rd time - Peter's trip

Next Thursday (November 15th) I will be leaving Phoenix (I will be in 
Phoenix from Friday eve through Thursday morning) for Washington DC via
 
Flagstaff/Winslow/Oklahoma City, returning through Aiken SC and Fort
 Worth 
driving Eliza ( my roadster )

There is some flexibility in the route so if there are any roadster
 owners 
in the vicinity, please give me a call (818) 448 3181 and maybe we can
 hook 
up.

A 37 year old car and a 59 year old driver should make for an
 interesting 
adventure.

Hope to see some of you enroute

Peter
1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)





>Phoenix to Oklahoma City via Flagstaff/Albuquerque
>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=Phoenix,+AZ&daddr=Flagstaff,+AZ+to:winslow+to:albuquerque,nm+to:oklahoma+city,+ok&mra=pi&mrcr=3&dirflg=h&sll=34.270836,-112.203369&sspn=0.642324,1.461182&ie=UTF8&z=5&om=1
>
>Oklahoma City to Arlington Virginia
>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=oklahoma+city,ok&daddr=1216+no.+powhatan,arlington,va+22205&sll=34.49726,-104.80142&sspn=20.227578,34.101562&dirflg=h&ie=UTF8&ll=37.405074,-87.319336&spn=19.508651,34.101563&z=5&om=1
>
>Arlington Virgina to Los Angeles via South Carolina, Fort Worth (ish)
>http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&saddr=no+powhatan,+arlington,+va+22205&daddr=aiken,+south+carolina+to:sundance+court,+hudson+oaks,+tx+76087+to:17233+hemmingway+street,+van+nuys,+ca+91406&mra=pi&mrcr=2&dirflg=h&sll=35.678635,-87.47164&sspn=19.941352,34.101563&ie=UTF8&z=4&om=1
>Peter
 
       
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From wchmch at aol.com  Tue Nov 13 12:59:02 2007
From: wchmch at aol.com (wchmch at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:59:02 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Original owners...was twisties
In-Reply-To: <20071113122054.LXAX2.230317.root@fepweb15>
Message-ID: <8C9F446C5CBF86C-B1C-63BB@WEBMAIL-MB07.sysops.aol.com>

My situation is nearly identical to Tim's: B my Dad bought our 2000 new in Los
Angeles in 1969, and I bought it from him - for $1 - a few years back. B I
have all the original books, all service records since new, etc. B Someday, my
daughter will have the opportunity to buy it from me; however, I'm going to
sell the car to her at double my purchase price, to recoup my investment.


-----Original Message-----
From: tputland at charter.net
To: Gregory S. Morrison <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com>; Jerry Krakauer
<jsk977 at optonline.net>
Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original owners...was twisties








Well, I am not the first owner of my 70 1600 but my dad bought this car new in
April of 1970 and had it until May of 2006 when he gave it to me. I grew up in
this car and cannot remember how many times Dad and I took it night skiing at
Boreal Ridge up near Tahoe.

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- "Gregory S. Morrison" <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com> wrote:
> Owning a 67.5, or any other Datsun Roadster, "since new" is pretty amazing.
>
> Is there anyone else out there that can make that claim? Just curious.
>
> Greg
> SRL31100494
> "Roadstering since '75"
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/13/07 7:45 AM, "Jerry Krakauer" <jsk977 at optonline.net> wrote:
>
> > Don't know if there was any variation during the  production year but
I've
> > owned my 67.5 SRL since new and the twisties are plain stainless color,
not
> > black.
> >
> > Jerry Krakauer
> > SRL311 00099
> > ________________________________________
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From tputland at charter.net  Tue Nov 13 13:36:37 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (tputland at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:36:37 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Original owners...was twisties
In-Reply-To: <8C9F446C5CBF86C-B1C-63BB@WEBMAIL-MB07.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20071113153637.RYFYQ.241656.root@fepweb15>

Nearly identical?....Closer than that!. I also gave my Dad a $1-- incase the
local DOT or what ever made a stink over the "gift" of a car. I have, as well,
all the original paper work, receipts, etc and have asked my kids for a scrap
book of some sort to put it all in to preserve for, well, ever.

I am not going to sell my car to my kids, ever, unless they learn how to drive
a stick shift. They must, however, learn to drive a stick on someone else's
clutch plate, bearings, etc. ;-)
--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- wchmch at aol.com wrote:
> My situation is nearly identical to Tim's: B my Dad bought our 2000 new in
Los Angeles in 1969, and I bought it from him - for $1 - a few years back. B I
have all the original books, all service records since new, etc. B Someday, my
daughter will have the opportunity to buy it from me; however, I'm going to
sell the car to her at double my purchase price, to recoup my investment.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tputland at charter.net
> To: Gregory S. Morrison <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com>; Jerry Krakauer
<jsk977 at optonline.net>
> Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:20 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original owners...was twisties
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, I am not the first owner of my 70 1600 but my dad bought this car new
in
> April of 1970 and had it until May of 2006 when he gave it to me. I grew up
in
> this car and cannot remember how many times Dad and I took it night skiing
at
> Boreal Ridge up near Tahoe.
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- "Gregory S. Morrison" <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com> wrote:
> > Owning a 67.5, or any other Datsun Roadster, "since new" is pretty
amazing.
> >
> > Is there anyone else out there that can make that claim? Just curious.
> >
> > Greg
> > SRL31100494
> > "Roadstering since '75"

From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com  Tue Nov 13 14:56:03 2007
From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:56:03 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Was Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black: Some
 interesting twists on twisties
In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF762A8AE1@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
References: <b0b0059f0711120611l57b04265qb74c4d6793f3cbac@mail.gmail.com><4738633B.5070802@hornesystemstx.com><BAY109-W34AB3BA25E16A3B590619BF800@phx.gbl>
	<000701c8260c$3a286cd0$6402a8c0@HP1450>
	<85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF762A8AE1@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <BAY109-W4207DF94F1EBB69E348E1ABF800@phx.gbl>

Wow,
After reading thru the posts, looks like there is no clear line on when the
twisties changed.
Maybe this part depended on the whim of suppliers.

Even more trivia to add to the roadster lore.....

Best Regards,
Jim
Chesapeake Virginia> Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Was Twisties Needed: Now why
67.5 is black> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:02:26 -0600> From:
Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov> To: jsk977 at optonline.net; nqrithfordatsun at msn.com;
roadsters at hornesystemstx.com; fairlady66 at gmail.com> CC:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> > These cars have all kinds of variations.
Mike has a documented early> '66 that came with black bezels on the speedo and
tack - the rest of the> gages are chrome as one would expect.> > -----Original
Message-----> > Don't know if there was any variation during the production
year but> I've owned my 67.5 SRL since new and the twisties are plain
stainless> color, not black.> > Jerry Krakauer> SRL311 00099

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 13 16:21:13 2007
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:21:13 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver's side door latch - update
In-Reply-To: <d09.215c5b85.346b1331@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E1Is53s-0006KD-S7@elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Gary,
I haven't been online for a few days, or I could have fixed this for you
immediately. Sorry. 
The driver's door on Loreli did this a few different times after I first
bought her. Had to pull the door panel and screw that nut to make it work
properly. I'd tighten, it would loosen. 
Instead of Lithium grease, I used clear silicone. The nut doesn't loosen
anymore. The door opening thing was scary as hell the first time though,
wasn't it? LOL!
Matt - SEROC


-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of BARTERDUDE at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:48 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; wycroc at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver's side door latch - update

Interesting.  My son and I soaked the latch in brake cleaner, but that  
didn't do the job, but when we started feeling around in the inside of the
door,  
we discovered an "adjustment" nut on the rod coming from the outside door  
handle.  After experimenting with the positioning, we discovered it was
best to 
set it tighter, and the locking mechanism stayed in place with more  
tensioning.  Apparently over the years of use the nut had backed off, thus
causing the 
latch to not stay in locked position when triggered.
 
FYI, we also sprayed white lithium grease on the mechanism after adjusting  
and everything works beautifully now.
 
Thanks for the suggestions.  

Gary Lasater  - Parker CO
founding member _www.WyCROC.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 
1963 SPL310-00161C (Single  Carb)
1963 SPL310-00289B (Single Carb)
1964 SPL310-01289
1969  SRL311-12536 (licensed as '70)
1970 SPL311-28169 




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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Nov 13 17:18:31 2007
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:18:31 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
In-Reply-To: <47399397.4080004@sasktel.net>
Message-ID: <001201c82653$e6ae1ad0$6501a8c0@xp>

I dunno....Teddy gets all the girls. <g>

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dan & Louise
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:08 AM
To: Gordon Glasgow
Cc: Roadster List
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee


I'd still rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.

Dan

Gordon Glasgow wrote:

>This guy must have gone to the Dick Cheney School of Automotive 
>Repaier.
>
>http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jLAE9HuEZg17QRe1lpqLc_tDYLjAD8SSA620
>0
>Gordon Glasgow 
>Renton, WA 
>www.gordon-glasgow.org 
>
>"The difference between what we do
>and what we are capable of doing
>would suffice to solve most of the world's problems."
>- Mahatma Gandhi
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From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Tue Nov 13 17:28:01 2007
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:28:01 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
In-Reply-To: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGKEMPECAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <003501c82655$37913d00$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>

daddy always told me to be sure to select the correct shot size for the
intended prey...

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:21 PM
To: Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee

This guy must have gone to the Dick Cheney School of Automotive Repaier.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jLAE9HuEZg17QRe1lpqLc_tDYLjAD8SSA6200
Gordon Glasgow 
Renton, WA 
www.gordon-glasgow.org 

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and what we are capable of doing
would suffice to solve most of the world's problems."
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue Nov 13 18:19:31 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:19:31 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Was Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black:
 Someinteresting twists on twisties
Message-ID: <01f401c8265c$6aaeb3a0$6600a8c0@chrissy>

Production change came at the usual time, when the bin was empty, they
refilled it with the new stuff.

Wow,
After reading thru the posts, looks like there is no clear line on when the
twisties changed. Maybe this part depended on the whim of suppliers.

Even more trivia to add to the roadster lore.....

Best Regards,
Jim
 These cars have all kinds of variations. Mike has a documented early> '66
that came with black bezels on the speedo and tack - the rest of the> gages
are chrome as one would expect.> > -----Original
Message-----> > Don't know if there was any variation during the 
Message-----> > production
year but> I've owned my 67.5 SRL since new and the twisties are plain
stainless> color, not black.> > Jerry Krakauer> SRL311 00099

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 13 18:20:32 2007
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:20:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
In-Reply-To: <003501c82655$37913d00$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
Message-ID: <E1Is6vL-0001Ac-Ma@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The .410 with birdshot is good for an MG, Triumph, or VW at close range.
 
To take down a Lincoln, ya need a 10 gauge with a slug. That'll take the
"nuts" off ANYTHING... and stop that Lincoln in its danged ol' tire tracks!

Maybe he forgot the first rule... Righty tighty, lefty loosy! Or the second
rule... shootie wheelie, hurtie selfie. 

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Joe Russo
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 7:28 PM
To: 'Gordon Glasgow'; 'Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net'
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee

daddy always told me to be sure to select the correct shot size for the
intended prey...

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Gordon Glasgow
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:21 PM
To: Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee

This guy must have gone to the Dick Cheney School of Automotive Repaier.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jLAE9HuEZg17QRe1lpqLc_tDYLjAD8SSA6200
Gordon Glasgow 
Renton, WA 
www.gordon-glasgow.org 

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and what we are capable of doing
would suffice to solve most of the world's problems."
- Mahatma Gandhi
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From datdave at shaw.ca  Tue Nov 13 19:09:31 2007
From: datdave at shaw.ca (David Brooker)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:09:31 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] map lamp
Message-ID: <74B1E9BC-04B5-4924-947F-53BE7F4456E0@shaw.ca>

On the subject of map lamps. The early German made Capri cars  have a  
neat small flexible map lamp that could be tucked out of the way  
under the dash etc..  Dave Brooker, Winnipeg. Canada

From hallosb at juno.com  Tue Nov 13 19:17:58 2007
From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 19:17:58 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Original owners...was twisties
Message-ID: <20071113.191758.2356.0.hallosb@juno.com>

Add me to the list. My father bought our '66 1600 new in Okinawa.  Chrome
twisties. I have it now but, it really belongs to the whole family.
Everyone has lots of memories.

Dan McHatton

From aultgc at jorsm.com  Tue Nov 13 19:40:03 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:40:03 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone in Parma, Michigan?
References: <24218903.4088511194981601311.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <004401c82667$aa159fd0$0fa0aa42@gaxp1>

Andy,

Unfortunately, it is at least four hours from me.  But, I checked it on 
Google Earth, and I think your subject line is an entirely appropriate 
question.  Some other things you might ask:  Do they have electricity? 
Running water?  Paved roads?

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <andycost at embarqmail.com>
To: "datsun-roadsters" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:20 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Anyone in Parma, Michigan?


>I want to buy some coil-over springsB on EBAY thatB are local pickup only 
>in
> Parma, Michigan.B  Is there someone willing to go getB them and ship to 
> me?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Andy
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 14 05:01:49 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:01:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] map lamp
In-Reply-To: <74B1E9BC-04B5-4924-947F-53BE7F4456E0@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <BAY106-F29CD9B517F3B4CAD20B25ADF810@phx.gbl>

I installed the hella map light below - works great - switch at end of stalk 
on top of lamp - flexible - well bright enough.
http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/hella/map_light.jsp



Peter
1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)





>From: David Brooker <datdave at shaw.ca>
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] map lamp
>Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:09:31 -0600
>
>On the subject of map lamps. The early German made Capri cars  have a
>neat small flexible map lamp that could be tucked out of the way
>under the dash etc..  Dave Brooker, Winnipeg. Canada
>________________________________________
>
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From roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 14 07:16:12 2007
From: roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com (Mike Harper)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:16:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Was   Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF762A8AE1@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <410229.6202.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Phil, I have always wondered about my black speedo &
tach ever since you pointed out this to me.  I asked
the original owner if they were ever replaced, and he
insists no.  I am the second owner, so that is the way
it came.  I was wondering if anyone else has a similar
dash on an early '66 (or late '65).  It had to happen
to more than one car...My car also has the crankcase
vent hose running from the Oil Fill tower to the
breather, rather than from the back on the valve
cover.  Lots of people first think it ia a 1500.

Mike Harper
'66 1600 SPL311 1291 (Jessie)


--- "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)"
<Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov> wrote:

>  These cars have all kinds of variations.  Mike has
> a documented early
> '66 that came with black bezels on the speedo and
> tack - the rest of the
> gages are chrome as one would expect.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> Don't know if there was any variation during the 
> production year but
> I've owned my 67.5 SRL since new and the twisties
> are plain stainless
> color, not black.
> 
> Jerry Krakauer
> SRL311 00099
> ________________________________________
> 
> roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com
> 
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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 14 07:35:16 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:35:16 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Was Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
In-Reply-To: <410229.6202.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF762A8AE1@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
	<410229.6202.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0711140635n41e06f34gf11006a41f4bbfe2@mail.gmail.com>

My '66  1600 has Chrome on all gauges.

On Nov 14, 2007 6:16 AM, Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Phil, I have always wondered about my black speedo &
> tach ever since you pointed out this to me.  I asked
> the original owner if they were ever replaced, and he
> insists no.  I am the second owner, so that is the way
> it came.  I was wondering if anyone else has a similar
> dash on an early '66 (or late '65).  It had to happen
> to more than one car...My car also has the crankcase
> vent hose running from the Oil Fill tower to the
> breather, rather than from the back on the valve
> cover.  Lots of people first think it ia a 1500.
>
> Mike Harper
> '66 1600 SPL311 1291 (Jessie)
>
>
> --- "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)"
> <Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> >  These cars have all kinds of variations.  Mike has
> > a documented early
> > '66 that came with black bezels on the speedo and
> > tack - the rest of the
> > gages are chrome as one would expect.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > Don't know if there was any variation during the
> > production year but
> > I've owned my 67.5 SRL since new and the twisties
> > are plain stainless
> > color, not black.
> >
> > Jerry Krakauer
> > SRL311 00099
> > ________________________________________
> >
> > roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com
> >
> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list
> >
> > http://www.team.net/archive
> >
> >
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters
> >
>
>



-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one.

From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Wed Nov 14 08:00:30 2007
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:00:30 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Was   Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
In-Reply-To: <410229.6202.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF762A8AE1@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
	<410229.6202.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF762E93AD@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

 If your Roadster was a 67 and Nissan knew about the anti-chrome mandate
I could understand the black gages, but being such an early 66...  Did
Nissan know about the mandate over a year in advance, or were they
experimenting with black.

Either way Mike, you have the ultra rare "black gage '66"!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Harper [mailto:roadsterdude1600 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:16 AM
To: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03); Jerry Krakauer; Jim InVirginia;
roadsters at hornesystemstx.com; Chris & Christy Breyer
Cc: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black

Phil, I have always wondered about my black speedo & tach ever since you
pointed out this to me.  I asked the original owner if they were ever
replaced, and he insists no.  I am the second owner, so that is the way
it came.  I was wondering if anyone else has a similar dash on an early
'66 (or late '65).  It had to happen to more than one car...My car also
has the crankcase vent hose running from the Oil Fill tower to the
breather, rather than from the back on the valve cover.  Lots of people
first think it ia a 1500.

Mike Harper
'66 1600 SPL311 1291 (Jessie)


--- "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)"
<Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov> wrote:

>  These cars have all kinds of variations.  Mike has a documented early
> '66 that came with black bezels on the speedo and tack - the rest of
> the gages are chrome as one would expect.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Don't know if there was any variation during the production year but
> I've owned my 67.5 SRL since new and the twisties are plain stainless
> color, not black.
>
> Jerry Krakauer
> SRL311 00099
> ________________________________________

From az589 at lafn.org  Wed Nov 14 08:03:09 2007
From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:03:09 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Was   Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
In-Reply-To: <410229.6202.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF762A8AE1@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
	<410229.6202.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20071114065719.05fb5d80@lafn.org>

There is/was a date code stamped on the back of the tach and speedo 
that indicates when they were made.  Early half year tach and speedo 
had a shiny center hub and later ones had a flat black center hub.

Half year speedo's had engraved numbers in the odometer wheels and 
earlier year models didn't.

You can check the instruments if you want to go to the trouble.

Stan
===========

At 06:16 AM 11/14/2007, Mike Harper wrote:
>Phil, I have always wondered about my black speedo &
>tach ever since you pointed out this to me.  I asked
>the original owner if they were ever replaced, and he
>insists no.  I am the second owner, so that is the way
>it came.  I was wondering if anyone else has a similar
>dash on an early '66 (or late '65).  It had to happen
>to more than one car...My car also has the crankcase
>vent hose running from the Oil Fill tower to the
>breather, rather than from the back on the valve
>cover.  Lots of people first think it ia a 1500.
>
>Mike Harper
>'66 1600 SPL311 1291 (Jessie)

From chalsted at comcast.net  Wed Nov 14 06:05:33 2007
From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:05:33 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Another Darwin Award nominee
References: <003501c82655$37913d00$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
Message-ID: <000201c826d1$d3dee640$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4>

I used to do DirecTV installs and was having line of sight problems on one
job... the guy went in and got his shotgun out and blew away the corner of a
tree (took a while) and we got signal...was too high up for a ladder...

Craig

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Wed Nov 14 08:27:28 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:27:28 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] Bolt Pattern - Same as a 280Z?
Message-ID: <8036272.1195054048830.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I am trying to free up some more trunk space by buying an emergancy donut instead of filling up the roadster's trunk with a full sized tire. The later 280Z's came with a donut -- one of which is available on e-bay. Does anybody know if the bolt pattern is the same four bolt pattern?

Nathaniel

From RWM at RWMann.com  Wed Nov 14 08:31:51 2007
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:31:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Bolt Pattern - Same as a 280Z?
In-Reply-To: <8036272.1195054048830.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <8036272.1195054048830.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <473B14E7.8070400@RWMann.com>

It is, but finding the CO2 inflator cartridge is the trick.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex


nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote:

>I am trying to free up some more trunk space by buying an emergancy donut instead of filling up the roadster's trunk with a full sized tire. The later 280Z's came with a donut -- one of which is available on e-bay. Does anybody know if the bolt pattern is the same four bolt pattern?
>
>Nathaniel

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Wed Nov 14 08:47:32 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:47:32 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Bolt Pattern - Same as a 280Z?
In-Reply-To: <473B14E7.8070400@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-F21B71037DEABD81AABACABDF810@phx.gbl>

There was an earlier thread that I started and I seem to remember that SAAB 
was a possibility.



Peter
1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)





>From: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>
>To: "datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Bolt Pattern - Same as a 280Z?
>Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:31:51 -0500
>
>It is, but finding the CO2 inflator cartridge is the trick.
>
>- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex
>
>
>nmleeds at mindspring.com wrote:
>
> >I am trying to free up some more trunk space by buying an emergancy donut 
>instead of filling up the roadster's trunk with a full sized tire. The 
>later 280Z's came with a donut -- one of which is available on e-bay. Does 
>anybody know if the bolt pattern is the same four bolt pattern?
> >
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From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Wed Nov 14 08:48:34 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:48:34 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] U20 - Rough low idle - Chain slop
Message-ID: <24846950.1195055314977.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

All,

How much do people's U20 chains slop around at low idle? Here are my symptoms: at 700 rpm's, even with a warm engine, the idle is swinging from 660 to 740 and there's a chain noise caused by the chain slopping around against the housing. (At 1000 and higher there's no problem, no backfiring on slowdown, or anything else timing related -- at 80 mph drivers, and local law enforcement, have complained about a little lead foot disorder but that fades on the other side of 100 mph) 

The first thing we did was looked for vacume leaks -- the carb is freshly rebuilt and bushing are in good shape -- a quarter can of carb cleaner and no leaks were found.

Still confused, we pulled the valve cover off and ran the engine with the valve cover off -- messy, but a useful diagnostic. When we looked in, it looked like the timing chain was slopping all around and the tensioners weren't doing such a good job.

The engine is freshly rebuilt. The tensioners have plenty of material left on their feet. All of the oil passages were freshly cleaned when we did the rebuild.  We've got three theories:

1) The tensioner springs are shot, if so, does anyone have the specs for new ones?

2) Because the engine is so new there's just not enough oil pressure to push out the tensioners are low idle.

3) We put on really loose exhaust (big pipe, fancy muffler, straight shot bent under, not over, the back axle) and the lack of back pressure is compromising the engine's overall tuning.

Any ideas?

Nathaniel

From datrock at centurytel.net  Wed Nov 14 09:11:13 2007
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:11:13 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Was   Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black
In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.2.20071114065719.05fb5d80@lafn.org>
References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF762A8AE1@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
	<410229.6202.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<7.0.0.16.2.20071114065719.05fb5d80@lafn.org>
Message-ID: <473B1E21.2010904@centurytel.net>

All these Early Model comparisons have my wondering..Is there any 
obvious differances between the 66 and early 67 1600s. The reason I ask 
is that the matching numbered early 67 I recently picked up seams to 
have a low vin number of 3595 and the engine is 99xx and has a cast iron 
head. The frame is 3595. I would have sworn it was a 66 due the low vin 
# but the plate on the firewall has a "7" stamed on it, title also says 
67. Can anyone shed some light on this, or is it in order with other 
early model 67 cars. Bill

From geegc at aol.com  Wed Nov 14 09:13:46 2007
From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:13:46 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Bolt Pattern - Same as a 280Z?
In-Reply-To: <8036272.1195054048830.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <8036272.1195054048830.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8C9F4F07838B17A-6CC-CAF@webmailbeta-m02.sysops.aol.com>

its not just the bolt pattern, the size of the center hole is also important.? I bought a mini at a junkyard that fit on the rears fine, but did not clear the front hub, so be aware.? Of course if a front went one could move a rear to the front and put the mini on the back, but that's too much work.



Gary C


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Sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 7:27 am
Subject: [Roadsters] Bolt Pattern - Same as a 280Z?




I am trying to free up some more trunk space by buying an emergancy donut 
instead of filling up the roadster's trunk with a full sized tire. The later 
280Z's came with a donut -- one of which is available on e-bay. Does anybody 
know if the bolt pattern is the same four bolt pattern?

Nathaniel
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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed Nov 14 12:02:27 2007
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:02:27 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Model considerations [was: Twisties was: why 67.5
	is black]
In-Reply-To: <473B1E21.2010904@centurytel.net>
References: <7.0.0.16.2.20071114065719.05fb5d80@lafn.org>
Message-ID: <473AD5C3.18901.788F67@localhost>

> ...the matching numbered early 67 I recently picked up seams to 
> have a low vin number of 3595 and the engine is 99xx and has a cast
> iron head... I would have sworn it was a 66 due the low vin  # but the
> plate on the firewall has a "7" stamed on it, title also says 
> 67.

Sounds like you have a '66 that was sold in 1967. The dealers stamped
the date on the plate at the time of sale. So a '66 arrived at the dealer,
sat on the lot for awhile, sold in '67 at which point the dealer labelled
it as a '67 car.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed Nov 14 12:23:56 2007
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:23:56 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] U20 - Rough low idle - Chain slop
In-Reply-To: <24846950.1195055314977.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <473ADACC.24973.8C38BA@localhost>

> How much do people's U20 chains slop around at low idle?

Personal opinion: they shouldn't. There should be enough oil pressure
to maintain the tensioner.

> Here are my symptoms: at 700 rpm's, even with a warm engine,
> the idle is swinging from 660 to 740...

My crystal ball points to a worn distributor. Put a timing light and
dwell meter on the car - is timing jumping? Is dwell drifting?

> The first thing we did was looked for vacume leaks

Good thing to check.

> Still confused, we pulled the valve cover off and ran the engine with the
> valve cover off -- messy, but a useful diagnostic. When we looked in,
> it looked like the timing chain was slopping all around and the
> tensioners weren't doing such a good job.

Messy, yes :-)
In fact, if you didn't get fairly well soaked with  oil, I suspect you
have an oil flow problem. This may be your smoking gun.

> The engine is freshly rebuilt. The tensioners have plenty of material
> left on their feet. All of the oil passages were freshly cleaned when we
> did the rebuild.  We've got three theories:
> 
> 1) The tensioner springs are shot...

Nope. The springs only maintain static tension. As soon as you get oil
pressure, the springs become quite secondary.

> 2) Because the engine is so new there's just not enough oil
> pressure to push out the tensioners are low idle.

New engine = low pressure? Nope.

> 3) We put on really loose exhaust...

Nope.

> Any ideas?

Yes, actually.

1. Verify oil pressure. You better have some. Sounds like maybe you
don't :-) Did you replace the oil pump when you did the rebuild?

2. If oil pressure and flow is good, is it possible that the gasket
between the tensioner and the block doesn't have the little hole
that allows oil flow? In reality, that sounds like the issue and is what
I'd look at...

The concern then is if the upper tensioner (which is easy to get to)
has a bad gasket, what about that buried lower one?

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From datrock at centurytel.net  Wed Nov 14 12:33:17 2007
From: datrock at centurytel.net (Bill Cole)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 11:33:17 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Model considerations [was: Twisties was: why 67.5
 is black]
In-Reply-To: <473AD5C3.18901.788F67@localhost>
References: <7.0.0.16.2.20071114065719.05fb5d80@lafn.org>
	<473AD5C3.18901.788F67@localhost>
Message-ID: <473B4D7D.2@centurytel.net>

Just want to thank those who replied about the dealers stamping the year 
on the plate, I'm still learning. I agree the car should have sold as 
1966, I guess this explains the 65 1600's too. thanks   Bill

From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com  Wed Nov 14 15:31:20 2007
From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:31:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 66 Vs 67 what about chassis numbers Vs other ID points
 (used to be twisties)
In-Reply-To: <473B1E21.2010904@centurytel.net>
References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF762A8AE1@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>
	<410229.6202.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<7.0.0.16.2.20071114065719.05fb5d80@lafn.org> 
	<473B1E21.2010904@centurytel.net>
Message-ID: <BAY109-W2362A7412D4EFCEDF82648BF810@phx.gbl>

In some places the cars sold very slowly.  Back then, they were delivered with
the end year blank.  The dealer could stamp the year, or so I have heard.  So,
if your car was from some out of the way place where they did not like
Japanese cars, and it sat on the lot, it is very possible that you have a 66.
The cast iron head is futher proof.

The 67 1600 aluminum head is rare becasue its aluminum but does not yet have
the smog fittings.
I recently sold a good (only .006 away from new) one of these for $300.

I have a 65 parts car out in the driveway....seems to me its number is higher
than yours, I will go check.

My driver is also an early 67, I will get the number from that as well.

Best Regards,
Jim
Chesapeake
Virginia> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:11:13 -0800> From: datrock at centurytel.net>
To: az589 at lafn.org> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re:
[Roadsters] Was Twisties Needed: Now why 67.5 is black> > All these Early
Model comparisons have my wondering..Is there any > obvious differances
between the 66 and early 67 1600s. The reason I ask > is that the matching
numbered early 67 I recently picked up seams to > have a low vin number of
3595 and the engine is 99xx and has a cast iron > head. The frame is 3595. I
would have sworn it was a 66 due the low vin > # but the plate on the firewall
has a "7" stamed on it, title also says > 67. Can anyone shed some light on
this, or is it in order with other > early model 67 cars. Bill>

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Wed Nov 14 19:39:21 2007
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:39:21 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Model considerations [was: Twisties was: why 67.5is
 black]
In-Reply-To: <473AD5C3.18901.788F67@localhost>
Message-ID: <000001c82730$ba84fbd0$6501a8c0@xp>

I understand 'em selling and titling a built-in-66 as a 67 if they sold it
in 67, but did the dealers stamp the VIN plate? Thought that was done at the
factory...

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of John F Sandhoff
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:02 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Model considerations [was: Twisties was: why 67.5is
black]


> ...the matching numbered early 67 I recently picked up seams to
> have a low vin number of 3595 and the engine is 99xx and has a cast
> iron head... I would have sworn it was a 66 due the low vin  # but the
> plate on the firewall has a "7" stamed on it, title also says
> 67.

Sounds like you have a '66 that was sold in 1967. The dealers stamped the
date on the plate at the time of sale. So a '66 arrived at the dealer, sat
on the lot for awhile, sold in '67 at which point the dealer labelled it as
a '67 car.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com  Wed Nov 14 19:47:06 2007
From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:47:06 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Model considerations [was: Twisties was: why 67.5is
 black]
In-Reply-To: <000001c82730$ba84fbd0$6501a8c0@xp>
References: <473AD5C3.18901.788F67@localhost>
	<000001c82730$ba84fbd0$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <BAY109-W2381EB46EE74AB3F175E3BBF820@phx.gbl>

Pete,
Yes, back in the day, the last digit on the year on the VIN plate was left
blank.  The dealer stamped it in.

As for the guy on the list wondering about his 67 which appears to have a
serial number in the 66 range, that is probably because his car was built in
66 and sold in 67 with a dealer stamped plate.  I took a look at my cars since
I happen to have a 67 and a 65 and my numbers bracket his, which is additional
proof.  He also has an iron head, which is a 66 feature.

My 67 "SAKE RKT" driver:   09059
My 65 parts car roller:       02178

Hope this helps!
Jim
Chesapeake Virginia

> From: ppeters914 at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date:
Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:39:21 -0800> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Model considerations
[was: Twisties was: why 67.5is black]> > I understand 'em selling and titling
a built-in-66 as a 67 if they sold it> in 67, but did the dealers stamp the
VIN plate? Thought that was done at the> factory...> > Pete> > -----Original
Message-----> From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net>
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On>
Behalf Of John F Sandhoff> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:02 AM> To:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Model considerations
[was: Twisties was: why 67.5is> black]> > > > ...the matching numbered early
67 I recently picked up seams to> > have a low vin number of 3595 and the
engine is 99xx and has a cast> > iron head... I would have sworn it was a 66
due the low vin # but the> > plate on the firewall has a "7" stamed on it,
title also says> > 67.> > Sounds like you have a '66 that was sold in 1967.
The dealers stamped the> date on the plate at the time of sale. So a '66
arrived at the dealer, sat> on the lot for awhile, sold in '67 at which point
the dealer labelled it as> a '67 car.> > -- John> John F Sandhoff
sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA

From 12061997 at comcast.net  Wed Nov 14 19:50:22 2007
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:50:22 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] car dates
Message-ID: <111520070250.14345.473BB3EE000C375E000038092207020953C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi list, These date stamps have always been strange. I bought a 1600 in Washington D.C. in August of 1967. It had been purchased in Georgia new in June. The PO had bought it there and was on orders to Nam when he sold it to me. It was titled as a 68....bob ballinger--67-1600 Muncie,IN

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Wed Nov 14 20:09:58 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:09:58 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  U20 - Rough low idle - Chain slop
Message-ID: <024901c82735$02e8a490$6600a8c0@chrissy>

First thing I would check is the oil pressure, then make sure the gasket for
the upper tensioner isn't blocking the hole the oil come through.  Are the
chains new when the engine was rebuilt?


1. The tensioner spring only provides part of the pressure, oil pressure
increases this to about 25 pounds pressure on the tensioner with full oil
pressure, less at idle
2. Wouldn't a new tight engine have more oil pressure?  Either way, 20 psi
should work.
3. I've run mine with open headers, if the chain rattled, I didn't hear it,
but it ran fine.


I would check float level, condition of the distributor, especially the
advance springs as far as the idle, and for the chain, I'd bet either the
upper tensioner is NG, or the gasket is on wrong or the oil feed  hole is
plugged up. Lack of oil pressure could be a whole bigger problem.  What is
the gauge reading at idle?  Could go to heavier oil too.

Verify the timing isn't swinging up and down with a timing light.

I think you have 2 separate problems, Idle and loose chain tension.  People
have shimmed out the tensioners with good result, opinions vary if this is a
good idea,but I've never heard of it causing a failure.  I added a much
stronger spring on the inside of the tensioner.


All,

How much do people's U20 chains slop around at low idle? Here are my
symptoms: at 700 rpm's, even with a warm engine, the idle is swinging from
660 to 740 and there's a chain noise caused by the chain slopping around
against the housing. (At 1000 and higher there's no problem, no backfiring
on slowdown, or anything else timing related -- at 80 mph drivers, and local
law enforcement, have complained about a little lead foot disorder but that
fades on the other side of 100 mph)

The first thing we did was looked for vacume leaks -- the carb is freshly
rebuilt and bushing are in good shape -- a quarter can of carb cleaner and
no leaks were found.

Still confused, we pulled the valve cover off and ran the engine with the
valve cover off -- messy, but a useful diagnostic. When we looked in, it
looked like the timing chain was slopping all around and the tensioners
weren't doing such a good job.

The engine is freshly rebuilt. The tensioners have plenty of material left
on their feet. All of the oil passages were freshly cleaned when we did the
rebuild.  We've got three theories:

1) The tensioner springs are shot, if so, does anyone have the specs for new
ones?

2) Because the engine is so new there's just not enough oil pressure to push
out the tensioners are low idle.

3) We put on really loose exhaust (big pipe, fancy muffler, straight shot
bent under, not over, the back axle) and the lack of back pressure is
compromising the engine's overall tuning.

Any ideas?

Nathaniel

From akarcioglu at telus.net  Wed Nov 14 20:25:16 2007
From: akarcioglu at telus.net (alp)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:25:16 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] good deal not mine......
Message-ID: <1195097116.473bbc1c16806@webmail.telus.net>

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/477094278.html

From aultgc at jorsm.com  Wed Nov 14 20:57:30 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:57:30 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] U20 - Rough low idle - Chain slop
References: <473ADACC.24973.8C38BA@localhost>
Message-ID: <006301c8273b$a5ab7490$05a0aa42@gaxp1>

Good advice from John.

Loose chains at idle are nothing to trifle with, regardless of they "look" 
with the cam cover off.  You should have sufficient oil pressure at idle to 
keep the chains from making noise.  I personally like the chain tensioner 
gasket issue problem, assuming the chains were replaced when the engine was 
rebuilt.  It is possible to put the gaskets on incorrectly.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff at csus.edu>
To: <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] U20 - Rough low idle - Chain slop


>> How much do people's U20 chains slop around at low idle?
>
> Personal opinion: they shouldn't. There should be enough oil pressure
> to maintain the tensioner.
>
>> Here are my symptoms: at 700 rpm's, even with a warm engine,
>> the idle is swinging from 660 to 740...
>
> My crystal ball points to a worn distributor. Put a timing light and
> dwell meter on the car - is timing jumping? Is dwell drifting?
>
>> The first thing we did was looked for vacume leaks
>
> Good thing to check.
>
>> Still confused, we pulled the valve cover off and ran the engine with the
>> valve cover off -- messy, but a useful diagnostic. When we looked in,
>> it looked like the timing chain was slopping all around and the
>> tensioners weren't doing such a good job.
>
> Messy, yes :-)
> In fact, if you didn't get fairly well soaked with  oil, I suspect you
> have an oil flow problem. This may be your smoking gun.
>
>> The engine is freshly rebuilt. The tensioners have plenty of material
>> left on their feet. All of the oil passages were freshly cleaned when we
>> did the rebuild.  We've got three theories:
>>
>> 1) The tensioner springs are shot...
>
> Nope. The springs only maintain static tension. As soon as you get oil
> pressure, the springs become quite secondary.
>
>> 2) Because the engine is so new there's just not enough oil
>> pressure to push out the tensioners are low idle.
>
> New engine = low pressure? Nope.
>
>> 3) We put on really loose exhaust...
>
> Nope.
>
>> Any ideas?
>
> Yes, actually.
>
> 1. Verify oil pressure. You better have some. Sounds like maybe you
> don't :-) Did you replace the oil pump when you did the rebuild?
>
> 2. If oil pressure and flow is good, is it possible that the gasket
> between the tensioner and the block doesn't have the little hole
> that allows oil flow? In reality, that sounds like the issue and is what
> I'd look at...
>
> The concern then is if the upper tensioner (which is easy to get to)
> has a bad gasket, what about that buried lower one?
>
> -- John
>     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
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From aultgc at jorsm.com  Wed Nov 14 21:08:56 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:08:56 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Model considerations [was: Twisties was: why 67.5is
 black]
References: <473AD5C3.18901.788F67@localhost><000001c82730$ba84fbd0$6501a8c0@xp>
	<BAY109-W2381EB46EE74AB3F175E3BBF820@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00b301c8273d$3e8793a0$05a0aa42@gaxp1>

My car, SPL311-05917 with engine R15834, had an aluminum head.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim InVirginia" <nqrithfordatsun at msn.com>
To: "Pete Peters" <ppeters914 at comcast.net>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Model considerations [was: Twisties was: why 67.5is 
black]


> Pete,
> Yes, back in the day, the last digit on the year on the VIN plate was left
> blank.  The dealer stamped it in.
>
> As for the guy on the list wondering about his 67 which appears to have a
> serial number in the 66 range, that is probably because his car was built 
> in
> 66 and sold in 67 with a dealer stamped plate.  I took a look at my cars 
> since
> I happen to have a 67 and a 65 and my numbers bracket his, which is 
> additional
> proof.  He also has an iron head, which is a 66 feature.
>
> My 67 "SAKE RKT" driver:   09059
> My 65 parts car roller:       02178
>
> Hope this helps!
> Jim
> Chesapeake Virginia
>
>> From: ppeters914 at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date:
> Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:39:21 -0800> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Model 
> considerations
> [was: Twisties was: why 67.5is black]> > I understand 'em selling and 
> titling
> a built-in-66 as a 67 if they sold it> in 67, but did the dealers stamp 
> the
> VIN plate? Thought that was done at the> factory...> > Pete> 
>  > -----Original
> Message-----> From:
> datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net>
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] 
> On>
> Behalf Of John F Sandhoff> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:02 AM> 
> To:
> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Model 
> considerations
> [was: Twisties was: why 67.5is> black]> > > > ...the matching numbered 
> early
> 67 I recently picked up seams to> > have a low vin number of 3595 and the
> engine is 99xx and has a cast> > iron head... I would have sworn it was a 
> 66
> due the low vin # but the> > plate on the firewall has a "7" stamed on it,
> title also says> > 67.> > Sounds like you have a '66 that was sold in 
> 1967.
> The dealers stamped the> date on the plate at the time of sale. So a '66
> arrived at the dealer, sat> on the lot for awhile, sold in '67 at which 
> point
> the dealer labelled it as> a '67 car.> > -- John> John F Sandhoff
> sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA
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From sasher at olympiawest.com  Thu Nov 15 02:07:06 2007
From: sasher at olympiawest.com (Seth Asher)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:07:06 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
Message-ID: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A014E822D@omgserver3.omg.local>

Can anyone suggest a current source for the closest thing to the
original tire that would have come on a '67 1600 from the factory?  I
suppose that would be...what....a 14" bias-ply with a 1.5" whitewall?

From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 15 05:24:03 2007
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:24:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
In-Reply-To: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A014E822D@omgserver3.omg.local>
Message-ID: <752634.76796.qm@web81704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've been very happy with the the BF Goodrich Tires I purchased for Coker. Very original and ride quite well (for bias-ply). I run a set of the wide-white walls on my 64 1500.
   
  http://tinyurl.com/2n6edv

  Dan Zubkoff
  Houston, TX
  
Seth Asher <sasher at olympiawest.com> wrote:
  Can anyone suggest a current source for the closest thing to the
original tire that would have come on a '67 1600 from the factory? I
suppose that would be...what....a 14" bias-ply with a 1.5" whitewall?

From dansummers at comcast.net  Thu Nov 15 06:12:15 2007
From: dansummers at comcast.net (dansummers at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:12:15 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] solex float needle spring
Message-ID: <111520071312.27123.473C45AF0006321D000069F322007358349C9D0A03039A9C020E0B@comcast.net>

I was working on my carb from my 68 2000 and managed to lose the spring that holds the float needle in (long story involving our chickens and our garden). I am a true novice and have no idea if it is a solex or some other carb. I was told it was the original carb when I got it. Does anyone have a spring and a little advice on how to identify the carb?
Dan
69 2000

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 15 07:02:37 2007
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:02:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] solex float needle spring
In-Reply-To: <111520071312.27123.473C45AF0006321D000069F322007358349C9D0A03039A9C020E0B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E1IsfIh-0006m3-5j@elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dan,
I emailed you a picture that I found on an eBay auction, showing both a
Solex carb, and a Hitachi carb. 
Your email is a little confusing in that you mention "carb", not "carbs". If
you have one, not two, it's definitely not original on a 68' 2000. A Solex
carb will say Mikuni and/or Solex right on top. The Hitachi will have a
large cylinder shaped piece on top.
Here's a helpful hint for the future. Keep the "spring chickens" away when
working on your car... and try NOT working on it in the garden. HEHEHE!
Matt

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[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of dansummers at comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:12 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] solex float needle spring

I was working on my carb from my 68 2000 and managed to lose the spring that
holds the float needle in (long story involving our chickens and our
garden). I am a true novice and have no idea if it is a solex or some other
carb. I was told it was the original carb when I got it. Does anyone have a
spring and a little advice on how to identify the carb?
Dan
69 2000

From Keith0alan at aol.com  Thu Nov 15 08:27:52 2007
From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:27:52 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] solex float needle spring
Message-ID: <cd2.2143d447.346dbf78@aol.com>

Dan,
 
It it is an SU I can send you some used float valves to get a spring from.  I 
presume you are talking about the little clip that holds the valve plunger  
into the body?
 
keith
 
In a message dated 11/15/2007 5:12:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
dansummers at comcast.net writes:

I was  working on my carb from my 68 2000 and managed to lose the spring that 
holds  the float needle in (long story involving our chickens and our 
garden). I am a  true novice and have no idea if it is a solex or some other carb. I 
was told  it was the original carb when I got it. Does anyone have a spring 
and a little  advice on how to identify the carb?
Dan
69  2000







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From aultgc at jorsm.com  Thu Nov 15 11:38:45 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:38:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
Message-ID: <200711151838.lAFIckf7021144@outbound-mta.egix.net>

   Seth,

   You  may  want  to check other suppliers listed in Hemmings, but Coker
   would  have  been  my  first  recommendation.  And, given the positive
   reference   below,   it's   hard   to  go  wrong!   They're  5.60x14s,
   by-the-way.  (I presume you knew that.)

   Were whitewalls standard?  (They were an option on my '66 VW.)

   Gary Ault
   On Thu Nov 15 7:24 , Dan Zubkoff sent:
   
     I've been very happy with the the BF Goodrich Tires I purchased for
     Coker.  Very  original  and ride quite well (for bias-ply). I run a
     set of the wide-white walls on my 64 1500.
     http://tinyurl.com/2n6edv
     Dan Zubkoff
     Houston, TX
     Seth Asher <sasher at o lympiawest.com> wrote:
     Can anyone suggest a current source for the closest thing to the
     original  tire that would have come on a '67 1600 from the factory?
     I
     suppose   that  would  be...what....a  14"  bias-ply  with  a  1.5"
     whitewall?
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From sasher at olympiawest.com  Thu Nov 15 13:16:32 2007
From: sasher at olympiawest.com (Seth Asher)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:16:32 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
In-Reply-To: <200711151838.lAFIckf7021144@outbound-mta.egix.net>
References: <200711151838.lAFIckf7021144@outbound-mta.egix.net>
Message-ID: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A014E823D@omgserver3.omg.local>

I don't know if whitewalls (aka WWWs, or wide-white-walls) were
standard, so if someone knows about the '67 in that regard that'd be
good to know too, and also the width of the whitewall stripe.  I've seen
some pictures of unknown year 310s, 311s, with 1", 1.5", and then also
1.5"-2"++ where the whitewall "stripe" not only mates with the bead but
seems also to go under the bead like spats a marching band member would
wear, if you can see that in your mind's eye.

________________________________

From: Gary and Cindy Ault [mailto:aultgc at jorsm.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:39 AM
To: Seth Asher; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; Dan Zubkoff
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source



Seth,

You may want to check other suppliers listed in Hemmings, but Coker
would have been my first recommendation.  And, given the positive
reference below, it's hard to go wrong!  They're 5.60x14s, by-the-way.
(I presume you knew that.)

Were whitewalls standard?  (They were an option on my '66 VW.)

Gary Ault



On Thu Nov 15 7:24 , Dan Zubkoff sent:



	I've been very happy with the the BF Goodrich Tires I purchased
for Coker. Very original and ride quite well (for bias-ply). I run a set
of the wide-white walls on my 64 1500.

	http://tinyurl.com/2n6edv

	Dan Zubkoff
	Houston, TX

	Seth Asher <sasher at olympiawest.com
<javascript:top.opencompose('sasher at olympiawest.com','','','')> > wrote:
	Can anyone suggest a current source for the closest thing to the
	original tire that would have come on a '67 1600 from the
factory? I
	suppose that would be...what....a 14" bias-ply with a 1.5"
whitewall?
	________________________________________

	aultgc at jorsm.com
<javascript:top.opencompose('aultgc at jorsm.com','','','')>

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From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 15 16:43:01 2007
From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:43:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: RE:  '67 original bias-ply tire source
Message-ID: <614683.15294.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I believe that the 67 had a standard 1 inch W.W.

Nowadays, the 1.25-1.5 inch white walls (on either 13 or 14 inch rims) seem to be radials set-up for lowriders. They are pretty readily available & are less costly than the BF Goodrich Bias-Ply Tire. 

http://tinyurl.com/2qsyww

The standard 1 inch white walls radials (175/70r14) are also still available and pretty inexpensive.

Dan Zubkoff
Houston, TX


Seth Asher <sasher at olympiawest.com> wrote:

     I don't know if whitewalls (aka WWWs, or wide-white-walls) were  standard, so if someone knows about the '67 in that regard that'd be good to  know too, and also the width of the whitewall stripe.  I've seen some  pictures of unknown year 310s, 311s, with 1", 1.5", and then also 1.5"-2"++  where the whitewall "stripe" not only mates with the bead but seems also to  go under the bead like spats a marching band member would wear, if you can see  that in your mind's eye.

From dansummers at comcast.net  Thu Nov 15 20:32:52 2007
From: dansummers at comcast.net (dansummers at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:32:52 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] float valve replies
Message-ID: <111620070332.22178.473D0F64000B7A17000056A222069984999C9D0A03039A9C020E0B@comcast.net>

Thanks for the response on the float valve question. It turns out I have the Hitachi or SU carbs.

Dan
68  2000

From sasher at olympiawest.com  Thu Nov 15 20:45:37 2007
From: sasher at olympiawest.com (Seth Asher)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:45:37 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] '67 1600 parts, maybe assorted parts
Message-ID: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A014E8249@omgserver3.omg.local>

Does anyone have literature/brochures, or assorted parts for the '67
1600 they might be willing to sell?  Trying to build my collection.

From hahlbohmd at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 15 21:12:20 2007
From: hahlbohmd at earthlink.net (Dewey Hahlbohm)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:12:20 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
Message-ID: <4074951.1195186341433.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

My late 68, sold to me as a 69 in September of 1968, had blackwall tires.  The original bias-ply tires were awful.  When I changed over to Michelin radials a year or so later I could not believe the difference.  I now have a set of Michelin Harmony tires on that roadster.  I will probably go to Michelin Pilots the next time.  Unless you are committed to the "original look" the radial tires make a world of difference in handling.  Good luck, Dewey     

-----Original Message-----
>From: Seth Asher <sasher at olympiawest.com>
>Sent: Nov 15, 2007 1:16 PM
>To: aultgc at jorsm.com, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net, Dan Zubkoff <zubkoff at sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
>
>I don't know if whitewalls (aka WWWs, or wide-white-walls) were
>standard, so if someone knows about the '67 in that regard that'd be
>good to know too, and also the width of the whitewall stripe.  I've seen
>some pictures of unknown year 310s, 311s, with 1", 1.5", and then also
>1.5"-2"++ where the whitewall "stripe" not only mates with the bead but
>seems also to go under the bead like spats a marching band member would
>wear, if you can see that in your mind's eye.
>
>________________________________
>
>From: Gary and Cindy Ault [mailto:aultgc at jorsm.com]
>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:39 AM
>To: Seth Asher; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; Dan Zubkoff
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
>
>
>
>Seth,
>
>You may want to check other suppliers listed in Hemmings, but Coker
>would have been my first recommendation.  And, given the positive
>reference below, it's hard to go wrong!  They're 5.60x14s, by-the-way.
>(I presume you knew that.)
>
>Were whitewalls standard?  (They were an option on my '66 VW.)
>
>Gary Ault
>
>
>
>On Thu Nov 15 7:24 , Dan Zubkoff sent:
>
>
>
>	I've been very happy with the the BF Goodrich Tires I purchased
>for Coker. Very original and ride quite well (for bias-ply). I run a set
>of the wide-white walls on my 64 1500.
>
>	http://tinyurl.com/2n6edv
>
>	Dan Zubkoff
>	Houston, TX
>
>	Seth Asher <sasher at olympiawest.com
><javascript:top.opencompose('sasher at olympiawest.com','','','')> > wrote:
>	Can anyone suggest a current source for the closest thing to the
>	original tire that would have come on a '67 1600 from the
>factory? I
>	suppose that would be...what....a 14" bias-ply with a 1.5"
>whitewall?
>	________________________________________
>
>	aultgc at jorsm.com
><javascript:top.opencompose('aultgc at jorsm.com','','','')>
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From davesmbox at aol.com  Fri Nov 16 09:39:17 2007
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:39:17 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Letter to nissan
In-Reply-To: <BAY136-DAV17A261DE89FC303BAE4B28E830@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY136-DAV17A261DE89FC303BAE4B28E830@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8C9F6865D6F8F10-DE8-8144@WEBMAIL-DC18.sysops.aol.com>

Sounds like this guy could have been talking about a roadster too. (foul language warning in attatchment)


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To: Davesmbox at aol.com; 'Geoff Lull' <geoffl at ma.ultranet.com>; 'Chris Wenzler' <cwenzler at oceanspray.com>; 'Carl Becker' <carlsbecker at hotmail.com>
Sent: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:04 pm
Subject: FW: PS


 

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From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:53:07 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Letter didn't attach tried again
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From chalsted at comcast.net  Fri Nov 16 09:59:07 2007
From: chalsted at comcast.net (Craig Halsted)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:59:07 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] pair of 66 1600's in Connecticut
Message-ID: <001401c82872$03717890$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4>

I'm headed up to Connecticut this afternoon, have a pair of '66 1600's to
pick up east of Hartford in Bolton. one is a California car, minor
electrical fire underhood. other is a "parts car" although I'm told it runs.
fronts of front fenders have been cut off from mid wheelwell forward but I
could provide a fender cut to repair that. photos of the car didn't look all
that bad. if anyone's interested in either car which would save me a 2nd
trip, give me a call on my cell 540-631-5852. planning to get to Bolton
around noon tomorrow.

Craig

From robbieharrison at comcast.net  Fri Nov 16 10:37:11 2007
From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:37:11 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
Subject: [Roadsters] pair of 66 1600's in Connecticut
References: <001401c82872$03717890$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4>
Message-ID: <473DD547.000003.04268@ROBBIE-PC>

The second one sounds like the 66 that I gave away earlier this year, the
guy was looking for front fenders to fabricate something for the front end
of a Z car. If it its SPL311-04429 that's the car.

-------Original Message-------

From: Craig Halsted
Date: 11/16/2007 11:59:57 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] pair of 66 1600's in Connecticut

I'm headed up to Connecticut this afternoon, have a pair of '66 1600's to
pick up east of Hartford in Bolton. one is a California car, minor
electrical fire underhood. other is a "parts car" although I'm told it runs.
fronts of front fenders have been cut off from mid wheelwell forward but I
could provide a fender cut to repair that. photos of the car didn't look all
that bad. if anyone's interested in either car which would save me a 2nd
trip, give me a call on my cell 540-631-5852. planning to get to Bolton
around noon tomorrow.

Craig
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From jsk977 at optonline.net  Fri Nov 16 11:44:31 2007
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:44:31 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
References: <4074951.1195186341433.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <003f01c82880$ba1e4510$6402a8c0@HP1450>

My 67.5 SRL came new with bias ply white walls, Toyos if I recall.. Got rid 
of them in less than a week. The first replacements were Pirelli Cinturatos 
165x14, which was plus 1 sizing for 4.5" wheels.

Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dewey Hahlbohm" <hahlbohmd at earthlink.net>
To: "Seth Asher" <sasher at olympiawest.com>; <aultgc at jorsm.com>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; "Dan Zubkoff" <zubkoff at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source


> My late 68, sold to me as a 69 in September of 1968, had blackwall tires. 
> The original bias-ply tires were awful.  When I changed over to Michelin 
> radials a year or so later I could not believe the difference.  I now have 
> a set of Michelin Harmony tires on that roadster.  I will probably go to 
> Michelin Pilots the next time.  Unless you are committed to the "original 
> look" the radial tires make a world of difference in handling.  Good luck, 
> Dewey

From sasher at olympiawest.com  Fri Nov 16 11:59:56 2007
From: sasher at olympiawest.com (Seth Asher)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:59:56 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
In-Reply-To: <003f01c82880$ba1e4510$6402a8c0@HP1450>
References: <4074951.1195186341433.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<003f01c82880$ba1e4510$6402a8c0@HP1450>
Message-ID: <9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A015183AF@omgserver3.omg.local>

Jerry, thanks for the great info.  I realize it was almost 41 years ago, but
since you even remember that they were probably Toyos, do you happen to
remember the width of the whitewall stripe?  Did the stripe reach and go under
the metal wheel-bead, or stop before it showing some black rubber before the
metal of the wheel began?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Krakauer [mailto:jsk977 at optonline.net]
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:45 AM
To: Dewey Hahlbohm; Seth Asher; aultgc at jorsm.com;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; Dan Zubkoff
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source

My 67.5 SRL came new with bias ply white walls, Toyos if I recall.. Got rid of
them in less than a week. The first replacements were Pirelli Cinturatos
165x14, which was plus 1 sizing for 4.5" wheels.

Jerry Krakauer
SRL311 00099
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dewey Hahlbohm" <hahlbohmd at earthlink.net>
To: "Seth Asher" <sasher at olympiawest.com>; <aultgc at jorsm.com>;
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; "Dan Zubkoff" <zubkoff at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source


> My late 68, sold to me as a 69 in September of 1968, had blackwall tires.
> The original bias-ply tires were awful.  When I changed over to
> Michelin radials a year or so later I could not believe the
> difference.  I now have a set of Michelin Harmony tires on that
> roadster.  I will probably go to Michelin Pilots the next time.
> Unless you are committed to the "original look" the radial tires make
> a world of difference in handling.  Good luck, Dewey
>


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From davesmbox at aol.com  Fri Nov 16 12:41:13 2007
From: davesmbox at aol.com (davesmbox at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:41:13 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Link to Nissan letter
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http://www.datsunroadsters.com/nissanletter.pdf

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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 16 13:31:14 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:31:14 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] LAst Request
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0711161231v522b147id20efa0bcb98404d@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I seem to be coming up dry here so I thought I would send out
one last request for Twisties. The last time I sent out a request a
discourse was started about the color of Dash Twisties.  It was kind
of interesting.  Well, as it turns out now, I only need two twisties
for the dash (I don't care what color, that is what paint is for).  I
found two twistes in my nuts and bolts bucket. I am installing my
windshield this weekend as well as the seats, I want to use the
Tonneau Cover now that the carpet and the inside is done up.  So if
you are able to help me let me know I am willing to pay for shipping
and for the two Twisties.

Thanks you

Chris

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one.

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Fri Nov 16 13:49:05 2007
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:49:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Link to Nissan letter
In-Reply-To: <8C9F69FC81A40EF-B4-B717@MBLK-M14.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8C9F69FC81A40EF-B4-B717@MBLK-M14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711161238340.2636@netserv.csus.edu>

> http://www.datsunroadsters.com/nissanletter.pdf

And according to snopes.com, this letter is generally factual:
"This letter was indeed sent to Nissan Motor Co. The expletives
were not originally part of the letter, but were added by some
enterprising individual after the fact".

The mine closed in 2001, so the original letter was prior
to then.

<http://www.snopes.com/business/consumer/nissan.asp>

BTW, looks like the W40 is a 12-seat diesel bus from 1982-87

-- John
     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 16 14:25:17 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:25:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] TWISTIE LAst Request
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0711161231v522b147id20efa0bcb98404d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <730097.95064.qm@web53504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Chris,
I apologize for not responding to your first request.  I was distracted by the color banter, as was everyone else, it seems.  I have two twisties but one's spring is sprung.  They are in poor condition.  If you still do not get any responses and are interested in ugly and marginally functional, let me know.
Patti



Chris & Christy Breyer <fairlady66 at gmail.com> wrote: Well, I seem to be coming up dry here so I thought I would send out
one last request for Twisties. The last time I sent out a request a
discourse was started about the color of Dash Twisties.  It was kind
of interesting.  Well, as it turns out now, I only need two twisties
for the dash (I don't care what color, that is what paint is for).  I
found two twistes in my nuts and bolts bucket. I am installing my
windshield this weekend as well as the seats, I want to use the
Tonneau Cover now that the carpet and the inside is done up.  So if
you are able to help me let me know I am willing to pay for shipping
and for the two Twisties.

Thanks you

Chris

-- 
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Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
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From ken__pearce at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 16 14:07:37 2007
From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 13:07:37 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711161238340.2636@netserv.csus.edu>
References: <8C9F69FC81A40EF-B4-B717@MBLK-M14.sysops.aol.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0711161238340.2636@netserv.csus.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY104-W33956C201ED8C1819545A1AF830@phx.gbl>

I'm in the process of fixing my '68-2000 "5th gear neutral" problem and have
the tranny torn down.  I need a little translation from the original factory
manual.  The manual states:

  "Stretch the lock plate"

I believe when referring to a lock nut on the main shaft.  I've tried breaking
the nut loose but so far no luck.  Does "stretch" translate to "heat with a
torch"???  Or am I missing something.

The further I get into this project, the more I realize that I probably don't
have the necessary tools (hydraulic press etc etc...) to complete the rebuild
in a timely manner.  Anyone know of a good transmission shop in the Seattle /
Vancouver BC area that is familiar with the Datsun 5-spd.  I'm interested in a
name or contact info.

Thanks,

Ken Pearce
Bellingham, WA
'68-2000

From JeffVH at aol.com  Fri Nov 16 16:56:15 2007
From: JeffVH at aol.com (JeffVH at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:56:15 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] OOPS! Let's try this for the 3rd time - Peter's trip
Message-ID: <c88.1a5b7231.346f881f@aol.com>

Did anyone hear from Peter? Did he get out of PHX Thursday?  I hope  he's 
going to be posting progress on his adventure 
 
Jeff Von Holten
Columbus OH
_http://www.311s.org/registry/1969/srl311-12920.html_ 
(http://www.311s.org/registry/1969/srl311-12920.html) 



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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Fri Nov 16 18:42:12 2007
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:42:12 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties & posties (was "RE:  LAst Request")
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0711161231v522b147id20efa0bcb98404d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004d01c828bb$1620e8b0$6501a8c0@xp>

Are these items -THAT- unique to the roadster? Seems they would be available
at any decent marine canvas shop.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 12:31 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] LAst Request


Well, I seem to be coming up dry here so I thought I would send out one last
request for Twisties. The last time I sent out a request a discourse was
started about the color of Dash Twisties.  It was kind of interesting.
Well, as it turns out now, I only need two twisties for the dash (I don't
care what color, that is what paint is for).  I found two twistes in my nuts
and bolts bucket. I am installing my windshield this weekend as well as the
seats, I want to use the Tonneau Cover now that the carpet and the inside is
done up.  So if you are able to help me let me know I am willing to pay for
shipping and for the two Twisties.

Thanks you

Chris

--
'66 1600
Riverside, CA

From dato1500 at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 16 18:57:17 2007
From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:57:17 +0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Link to Nissan letter
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711161238340.2636@netserv.csus.edu>
References: <8C9F69FC81A40EF-B4-B717@MBLK-M14.sysops.aol.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0711161238340.2636@netserv.csus.edu> 
Message-ID: <BAY102-W33AF91452AAFA715A9C949D57C0@phx.gbl>

The only part we in WA believe that has been added is the part about planes.
If you go in to most mining workshop offices in Western Australia and ask
about this nissan letter someone will have a copy. I have spent the last 10
years working in the mining industry from drilling and now Purchasing and it
has been passed around for awhile. I still have a copy on my computer at work
for those times when you get pissed with suppliers.

I deal with these problems on a day basis as I can get a part supplied by Dean
@ datsunparts and have it fitted on my car before I can get most items from
the eastern states in Australia or anywhere is the would.

I had a small issue with a company call Blackwoods (one of the biggest
industrial suppliers ) where a order was raised for 120 line items and it took
35 weeks to get the order completly supplied and the last item delivered was
200 * 6mm black nuts.

We class WA as Wait Awhile because thing take forevery to turn up.

> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 12:49:05 -0800> From: sandhoff at csus.edu> To:
davesmbox at aol.com> CC: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re:
[Roadsters] Link to Nissan letter> > >
http://www.datsunroadsters.com/nissanletter.pdf> > And according to
snopes.com, this letter is generally factual:> "This letter was indeed sent to
Nissan Motor Co. The expletives> were not originally part of the letter, but
were added by some> enterprising individual after the fact".> > The mine
closed in 2001, so the original letter was prior> to then.> >
<http://www.snopes.com/business/consumer/nissan.asp>> > BTW, looks like the
W40 is a 12-seat diesel bus from 1982-87> > -- John> John F Sandhoff
sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA> ________________________________________> >
dato1500 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >
http://www.team.net/archive> >
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Fri Nov 16 19:37:10 2007
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:37:10 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties & posties (was "RE:  LAst Request")
In-Reply-To: <004d01c828bb$1620e8b0$6501a8c0@xp>
References: <004d01c828bb$1620e8b0$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <473E53D6.2000500@sbcglobal.net>

I was thinking the same thing - I Googled "twist fastener" and got 
oodles of hits.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

Pete Peters wrote:

>Are these items -THAT- unique to the roadster? Seems they would be available
>at any decent marine canvas shop.
>
>Pete
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
>[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
>Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer
>Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 12:31 PM
>To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] LAst Request
>
>
>Well, I seem to be coming up dry here so I thought I would send out one last
>request for Twisties. The last time I sent out a request a discourse was
>started about the color of Dash Twisties.  It was kind of interesting.
>Well, as it turns out now, I only need two twisties for the dash (I don't
>care what color, that is what paint is for).  I found two twistes in my nuts
>and bolts bucket. I am installing my windshield this weekend as well as the
>seats, I want to use the Tonneau Cover now that the carpet and the inside is
>done up.  So if you are able to help me let me know I am willing to pay for
>shipping and for the two Twisties.
>
>Thanks you
>
>Chris
>
>--
>'66 1600
>Riverside, CA
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>
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 16 19:48:58 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:48:58 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties & posties (was "RE:  LAst Request")
In-Reply-To: <473E53D6.2000500@sbcglobal.net>
References: <004d01c828bb$1620e8b0$6501a8c0@xp>
	<473E53D6.2000500@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W11A00DABA0D337BAF9570FDF7C0@phx.gbl>

The twisties available are mostly screw in as opposed to nuts/bolties
 Peter1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:37:10
-0800> From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> To: ppeters914 at comcast.net> CC:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Twisties & posties
(was "RE: LAst Request")> > I was thinking the same thing - I Googled "twist
fastener" and got > oodles of hits.> > Gary McCormick> San Jose, CA> > Pete
Peters wrote:> > >Are these items -THAT- unique to the roadster? Seems they
would be available> >at any decent marine canvas shop.> >> >Pete> >>
>-----Original Message-----> >From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net>
>[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On>
>Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer> >Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 12:31 PM>
>To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net> >Subject: [Roadsters] LAst Request> >>
>> >Well, I seem to be coming up dry here so I thought I would send out one
last> >request for Twisties. The last time I sent out a request a discourse
was> >started about the color of Dash Twisties. It was kind of interesting.>
>Well, as it turns out now, I only need two twisties for the dash (I don't>
>care what color, that is what paint is for). I found two twistes in my nuts>
>and bolts bucket. I am installing my windshield this weekend as well as the>
>seats, I want to use the Tonneau Cover now that the carpet and the inside is>
>done up. So if you are able to help me let me know I am willing to pay for>
>shipping and for the two Twisties.> >> >Thanks you> >> >Chris> >> >--> >'66
1600> >Riverside, CA> >________________________________________> >>
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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Fri Nov 16 20:35:07 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:35:07 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] FW:  LAst Request
Message-ID: <029a01c828ca$da7d03b0$6600a8c0@chrissy>

Best thing I can tell you is stop by the local conv. top shop, bring cash,
and ask if they can help you out, that's where I got all the stuff to put on
my new top.  $16.00 for all of it.  Also avail at marine stores
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/
95746/377%20710/0/twist/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/10/0?N=377%2
0710&Ne=0&Ntt=twist&Ntk=Primary%20Search&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=10&N
s=0&keyword=twist&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=5000&subdeptNum=13&classNum=741

Good luck
Dave

--
Subject: [Roadsters] LAst Request


Well, I seem to be coming up dry here so I thought I would send out one last
request for Twisties. The last time I sent out a request a discourse was
started about the color of Dash Twisties.  It was kind of interesting.
Well, as it turns out now, I only need two twisties for the dash (I don't
care what color, that is what paint is for).  I found two twistes in my nuts
and bolts bucket. I am installing my windshield this weekend as well as the
seats, I want to use the Tonneau Cover now that the carpet and the inside is
done up.  So if you are able to help me let me know I am willing to pay for
shipping and for the two Twisties.

Thanks you

Chris

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Fri Nov 16 20:46:19 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 22:46:19 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...
Message-ID: <029b01c828cc$6b02e390$6600a8c0@chrissy>

I believe they may be referring to a washer with lockin tabs, which get bent
up against the flats on the nut to keep it from backing off. Those tabs may
have sheared off if the nuts loosened.  According to what I've read, some
have double nuts, others single.  If it is double nutted, you must hold the
inner nut and loosen the outer nut and remove it first.

Dave


I'm in the process of fixing my '68-2000 "5th gear neutral" problem and have
the tranny torn down.  I need a little translation from the original factory
manual.  The manual states:

  "Stretch the lock plate"

I believe when referring to a lock nut on the main shaft.  I've tried
breaking the nut loose but so far no luck.  Does "stretch" translate to
"heat with a torch"???  Or am I missing something.

The further I get into this project, the more I realize that I probably
don't have the necessary tools (hydraulic press etc etc...) to complete the
rebuild in a timely manner.  Anyone know of a good transmission shop in the
Seattle / Vancouver BC area that is familiar with the Datsun 5-spd.  I'm
interested in a name or contact info.

Thanks,

Ken Pearce
Bellingham, WA
'68-2000

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 16 21:35:54 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:35:54 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties & posties (was "RE: LAst Request")
In-Reply-To: <004d01c828bb$1620e8b0$6501a8c0@xp>
References: <b0b0059f0711161231v522b147id20efa0bcb98404d@mail.gmail.com>
	<004d01c828bb$1620e8b0$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0711162035x52c6f1adxa688c3b5c7f76b19@mail.gmail.com>

On Nov 16, 2007 5:42 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Are these items -THAT- unique to the roadster? Seems they would be available
> at any decent marine canvas shop.
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 12:31 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] LAst Request
>
>
> Well, I seem to be coming up dry here so I thought I would send out one last
> request for Twisties. The last time I sent out a request a discourse was
> started about the color of Dash Twisties.  It was kind of interesting.
> Well, as it turns out now, I only need two twisties for the dash (I don't
> care what color, that is what paint is for).  I found two twistes in my nuts
> and bolts bucket. I am installing my windshield this weekend as well as the
> seats, I want to use the Tonneau Cover now that the carpet and the inside is
> done up.  So if you are able to help me let me know I am willing to pay for
> shipping and for the two Twisties.
>
> Thanks you
>
> Chris
>
> --
> '66 1600
> Riverside, CA
> ________________________________________
>
> fairlady66 at gmail.com
>
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>
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>
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>



-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one.

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Fri Nov 16 21:36:05 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:36:05 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties & posties (was "RE: LAst Request")
In-Reply-To: <004d01c828bb$1620e8b0$6501a8c0@xp>
References: <b0b0059f0711161231v522b147id20efa0bcb98404d@mail.gmail.com>
	<004d01c828bb$1620e8b0$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0711162036m4382a66cv2c10748f45e01502@mail.gmail.com>

I did not stop to think about checking the marine and canvas shops. It
was suggested earlier today as well.  I guess I will try to hit some
of them.  I know that twisties are not unique to Roadsters, I have
been so busy i did not stop to think out to the box.

Thanks
Chris

On Nov 16, 2007 5:42 PM, Pete Peters <ppeters914 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Are these items -THAT- unique to the roadster? Seems they would be available
> at any decent marine canvas shop.
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer
> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 12:31 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
> Subject: [Roadsters] LAst Request
>
>
> Well, I seem to be coming up dry here so I thought I would send out one last
> request for Twisties. The last time I sent out a request a discourse was
> started about the color of Dash Twisties.  It was kind of interesting.
> Well, as it turns out now, I only need two twisties for the dash (I don't
> care what color, that is what paint is for).  I found two twistes in my nuts
> and bolts bucket. I am installing my windshield this weekend as well as the
> seats, I want to use the Tonneau Cover now that the carpet and the inside is
> done up.  So if you are able to help me let me know I am willing to pay for
> shipping and for the two Twisties.
>
> Thanks you
>
> Chris
>
> --
> '66 1600
> Riverside, CA
> ________________________________________
>
> fairlady66 at gmail.com
>
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>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
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>



-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one.

From jsk977 at optonline.net  Fri Nov 16 21:41:21 2007
From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer)
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 23:41:21 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
References: <4074951.1195186341433.JavaMail.root@elwamui-muscovy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<003f01c82880$ba1e4510$6402a8c0@HP1450>
	<9AEDA16261A64F489F2FC9B013D8AB2A015183AF@omgserver3.omg.local>
Message-ID: <000801c828d4$1a4ed190$6402a8c0@HP1450>

I don't think I ever knew the actual width, but they were the "thin"  style, 
did not go to the wheel lip. Looked just like the picture on the cover of 
the owners manual.

Jerry Krakauer
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Seth Asher" <sasher at olympiawest.com>
To: "Jerry Krakauer" <jsk977 at optonline.net>; "Dewey Hahlbohm" 
<hahlbohmd at earthlink.net>; <aultgc at jorsm.com>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>; "Dan Zubkoff" <zubkoff at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source


> Jerry, thanks for the great info.  I realize it was almost 41 years ago, 
> but since you even remember that they were probably Toyos, do you happen 
> to remember the width of the whitewall stripe?  Did the stripe reach and 
> go under the metal wheel-bead, or stop before it showing some black rubber 
> before the metal of the wheel began?

From nqrithfordatsun at msn.com  Sat Nov 17 05:42:13 2007
From: nqrithfordatsun at msn.com (Jim InVirginia)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 07:42:13 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties & posties (was "RE:  LAst Request")
In-Reply-To: <004d01c828bb$1620e8b0$6501a8c0@xp>
References: <b0b0059f0711161231v522b147id20efa0bcb98404d@mail.gmail.com>
	<004d01c828bb$1620e8b0$6501a8c0@xp>
Message-ID: <BAY109-W10EB145B82150BC5742477BF7C0@phx.gbl>

For all:

Last time I checked, and it was addmitteded a few years ago, some of our
vendors had new in the bag Nissan twisties and posties.
Not too awfully expensive either.   (Classic Datsun or Dean at Fairlady are
the two I mostly use).

Best Regards,
Jim
Chesapeake Virginia
> From: ppeters914 at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date:
Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:42:12 -0800> Subject: [Roadsters] Twisties & posties (was
"RE: LAst Request")> > Are these items -THAT- unique to the roadster? Seems
they would be available> at any decent marine canvas shop.> > Pete> >
-----Original Message-----> From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net>
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On>
Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 12:31 PM>
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net> Subject: [Roadsters] LAst Request> > >
Well, I seem to be coming up dry here so I thought I would send out one last>
request for Twisties. The last time I sent out a request a discourse was>
started about the color of Dash Twisties. It was kind of interesting.> Well,
as it turns out now, I only need two twisties for the dash (I don't> care what
color, that is what paint is for). I found two twistes in my nuts> and bolts
bucket. I am installing my windshield this weekend as well as the> seats, I
want to use the Tonneau Cover now that the carpet and the inside is> done up.
So if you are able to help me let me know I am willing to pay for> shipping
and for the two Twisties.> > Thanks you> > Chris> > --> '66 1600> Riverside,
CA

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Sat Nov 17 07:27:27 2007
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 08:27:27 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Seattle area "parts" cars
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D262899@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Okay, had some time on my hands, and was perusing for pics, and saw this
show up on Craigslist in Seattle.
Nice "parts" vehicles.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/480882973.html

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sat Nov 17 09:01:54 2007
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:01:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Seattle area "parts" cars
References: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D262899@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <055a01c82933$53abd460$b621ffd8@hpcustomer>

  Looks like a nice project car for $1300.  And ya have to love the 'patina'
on the white roadster!

Paul
Ohio

----- Original Message -----
From: O'Farrell, Fergus <Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com>

> Okay, had some time on my hands, and was perusing for pics, and saw this
> show up on Craigslist in Seattle.
> Nice "parts" vehicles.
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/480882973.html

From konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com  Sat Nov 17 13:54:58 2007
From: konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com (David R. Conrad)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:54:58 -1000
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:  '67 original bias-ply tire source
References: <5583CAC4-951C-11DC-9D3D-000A27DC00A0@hawaii.rr.com>
Message-ID: <67E62931-E04F-4BDA-9058-7CBA838B327B@hawaii.rr.com>

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "David R. Conrad" <konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com>
> Date: November 17, 2007 4:49:44 AM HST
> To: Jerry Krakauer <jsk977 at optonline.net>
> Cc: "David R. Conrad" <konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
>
> Yes, I definitely recall that the tires installed on my new 67.5  
> were made by Toyo, and were a thin white sidewall.  I never  
> measured, but would have guessed maybe somewhat less than than an  
> inch in width.  I, too, was amazed by the dramatic improvement in  
> ride and handling when I switched over to Michelin radials in the  
> early '70s.
>
> Dave
> '68 1600
> Kailua-Kona
>
> On Friday, November 16, 2007, at 06:41 PM, Jerry Krakauer wrote:
>
>> I don't think I ever knew the actual width, but they were the  
>> "thin"  style, did not go to the wheel lip. Looked just like the  
>> picture on the cover of the owners manual.
>>
>> Jerry Krakauer
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Asher"  
>> <sasher at olympiawest.com>
>> To: "Jerry Krakauer" <jsk977 at optonline.net>; "Dewey Hahlbohm"  
>> <hahlbohmd at earthlink.net>; <aultgc at jorsm.com>; <datsun- 
>> roadsters at autox.team.net>; "Dan Zubkoff" <zubkoff at sbcglobal.net>
>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:59 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
>>
>>
>>> Jerry, thanks for the great info.  I realize it was almost 41  
>>> years ago, but since you even remember that they were probably  
>>> Toyos, do you happen to remember the width of the whitewall  
>>> stripe?  Did the stripe reach and go under the metal wheel-bead,  
>>> or stop before it showing some black rubber before the metal of  
>>> the wheel began?
>> ________________________________________

From tom at datsun2000.com  Sat Nov 17 17:39:58 2007
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:39:58 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:  '67 original bias-ply tire source
In-Reply-To: <67E62931-E04F-4BDA-9058-7CBA838B327B@hawaii.rr.com>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGKEIDDDAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

I just measured the whitewall on the original Toyo bias ply tire in the
trunk of Mr. Hyde.

The white wall width is 3/4"

I have a close photo if anyone wants me to send it to them.  Just send me a
note.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of David R. Conrad
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 12:55 PM
To: Roadster List
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: '67 original bias-ply tire source


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "David R. Conrad" <konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com>
> Date: November 17, 2007 4:49:44 AM HST
> To: Jerry Krakauer <jsk977 at optonline.net>
> Cc: "David R. Conrad" <konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
>
> Yes, I definitely recall that the tires installed on my new 67.5
> were made by Toyo, and were a thin white sidewall.  I never
> measured, but would have guessed maybe somewhat less than than an
> inch in width.  I, too, was amazed by the dramatic improvement in
> ride and handling when I switched over to Michelin radials in the
> early '70s.
>
> Dave
> '68 1600
> Kailua-Kona
>
> On Friday, November 16, 2007, at 06:41 PM, Jerry Krakauer wrote:
>
>> I don't think I ever knew the actual width, but they were the
>> "thin"  style, did not go to the wheel lip. Looked just like the
>> picture on the cover of the owners manual.
>>
>> Jerry Krakauer
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seth Asher"
>> <sasher at olympiawest.com>
>> To: "Jerry Krakauer" <jsk977 at optonline.net>; "Dewey Hahlbohm"
>> <hahlbohmd at earthlink.net>; <aultgc at jorsm.com>; <datsun-
>> roadsters at autox.team.net>; "Dan Zubkoff" <zubkoff at sbcglobal.net>
>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:59 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
>>
>>
>>> Jerry, thanks for the great info.  I realize it was almost 41
>>> years ago, but since you even remember that they were probably
>>> Toyos, do you happen to remember the width of the whitewall
>>> stripe?  Did the stripe reach and go under the metal wheel-bead,
>>> or stop before it showing some black rubber before the metal of
>>> the wheel began?
>> ________________________________________
________________________________________

tom at datsun2000.com

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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Sat Nov 17 17:48:58 2007
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:48:58 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Seattle area "parts" cars
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D262899@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <001301c8297c$d12908b0$6501a8c0@xp>

That was too good a deal. They were already sold when I called.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of O'Farrell, Fergus
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:27 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Seattle area "parts" cars


Okay, had some time on my hands, and was perusing for pics, and saw this
show up on Craigslist in Seattle. Nice "parts" vehicles.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/480882973.html

From datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net  Sat Nov 17 19:29:06 2007
From: datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net (Mike Kerr)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 18:29:06 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...
References: <8C9F69FC81A40EF-B4-B717@MBLK-M14.sysops.aol.com><Pine.LNX.4.64.0711161238340.2636@netserv.csus.edu>
	<BAY104-W33956C201ED8C1819545A1AF830@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000f01c8298a$cb94a040$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net>

Ken :


there were two types of lock down for the 5 spd trans ,  one had a nut and
lock plate ( it sucks) the other had a nut and lock nut (much better) . one
of hte problems with the 5 spd is that these have a habit of coming
undone...   also some of them had a main shaft that would not accept the two
nuts
there is a few things that can be done  to fix the problem with either type
. but too much to type
So if you want the info call me.

530-644-6777
mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "The Ken Pearce" <ken__pearce at hotmail.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...


> I'm in the process of fixing my '68-2000 "5th gear neutral" problem and
have
> the tranny torn down.  I need a little translation from the original
factory
> manual.  The manual states:
>
>   "Stretch the lock plate"
>
> I believe when referring to a lock nut on the main shaft.  I've tried
breaking
> the nut loose but so far no luck.  Does "stretch" translate to "heat with
a
> torch"???  Or am I missing something.
>
> The further I get into this project, the more I realize that I probably
don't
> have the necessary tools (hydraulic press etc etc...) to complete the
rebuild
> in a timely manner.  Anyone know of a good transmission shop in the
Seattle /
> Vancouver BC area that is familiar with the Datsun 5-spd.  I'm interested
in a
> name or contact info.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken Pearce
> Bellingham, WA
> '68-2000
> ________________________________________
>
> datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net
>
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>
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>
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From rksmith46 at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 17 19:50:35 2007
From: rksmith46 at hotmail.com (robert k. smith)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:50:35 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...
In-Reply-To: <029b01c828cc$6b02e390$6600a8c0@chrissy>
References: <029b01c828cc$6b02e390$6600a8c0@chrissy>
Message-ID: <BAY124-W20043873CA1C2F9319BDD0BF7D0@phx.gbl>

ken, you are almost there(to replace the 5th gear). dont heat the nuts!
justlay the trans assy. on the floor and get two big(long) pipe wrenches
orcresent(adj.) wrenches. use the floor to hold one wrench, put the
otherwrench in a position to loosen the other nut.(just above the other
wrench). then get a big hammer and while pressing down to hold tension, hit
thewrench, to loosen the nut. tighten it back the same way, using lock
tight.(i didnt, and had those two nuts loosen, causing the loss of gear
selection)the threads are right hand. once you get the nuts loose,and the
speedogear, and the  ball brg.(and snap rings), everything slides off the
mainshaft. be sure you use a brass drift to work the one brg. up the shaft,
hitting on alternate sides to slide the ball brg.  remember, whenreassembling
the 5th gear and needle brg., "cleanliness is next togodliness". while you are
in the trans. be sure to check and replacethe pins holding the shift forks in
place. the stock pins are a weakpoint. either get double thick roll pins, or
ive had good luck ckingthe stock pins for cracks , reusing them, and driving
in the solidend of  a 3/32" drill bit( inside the stock pins, after putting
thepins back in the fork). then i break or grind the drill bit flush.call me
if you dont understand something.              bob smith, ohio  614 418
9911p.s. dont throw away the old 5th gear, it can be welded upand reused.  > >
I believe they may be referring to a washer with lockin tabs, which get bent>
up against the flats on the nut to keep it from backing off. Those tabs may>
have sheared off if the nuts loosened. According to what I've read, some> have
double nuts, others single. If it is double nutted, you must hold the> inner
nut and loosen the outer nut and remove it first.> > Dave> > > I'm in the
process of fixing my '68-2000 "5th gear neutral" problem and have> the tranny
torn down. I need a little translation from the original factory> manual. The
manual states:> > "Stretch the lock plate"> > I believe when referring to a
lock nut on the main shaft. I've tried> breaking the nut loose but so far no
luck. Does "stretch" translate to> "heat with a torch"??? Or am I missing
something.> > The further I get into this project, the more I realize that I
probably> don't have the necessary tools (hydraulic press etc etc...) to
complete the> rebuild in a timely manner. Anyone know of a good transmission
shop in the> Seattle / Vancouver BC area that is familiar with the Datsun
5-spd. I'm> interested in a name or contact info.> > Thanks,> > Ken Pearce>
Bellingham, WA> '68-2000> ________________________________________> >
rksmith46 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >
http://www.team.net/archive> >
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From konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com  Sat Nov 17 22:22:48 2007
From: konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com (David R. Conrad)
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:22:48 -1000
Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd:  '67 original bias-ply tire source
In-Reply-To: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGKEIDDDAA.tom@datsun2000.com>
Message-ID: <4D2F4354-9596-11DC-94BE-000A27DC00A0@hawaii.rr.com>

Appreciate that info, Tom!  Could have sworn that my sidewall stripes 
were not an inch wide.  Just goes to illustrate that this list provides 
most any answer, no matter how small!

Dave
'68 1600
Kailua-Kona


On Saturday, November 17, 2007, at 02:39 PM, Tom @ Datsun2000 wrote:

> I just measured the whitewall on the original Toyo bias ply tire in the
> trunk of Mr. Hyde.
>
> The white wall width is 3/4"
>
> I have a close photo if anyone wants me to send it to them.  Just send 
> me a
> note.
>
> Tom
> 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
> Portland
> http://www.datsun2000.com
> http://www.nowroc.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of David R. Conrad
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 12:55 PM
> To: Roadster List
> Subject: [Roadsters] Fwd: '67 original bias-ply tire source
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "David R. Conrad" <konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com>
>> Date: November 17, 2007 4:49:44 AM HST
>> To: Jerry Krakauer <jsk977 at optonline.net>
>> Cc: "David R. Conrad" <konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '67 original bias-ply tire source
>>
>> Yes, I definitely recall that the tires installed on my new 67.5
>> were made by Toyo, and were a thin white sidewall.  I never
>> measured, but would have guessed maybe somewhat less than than an
>> inch in width.  I, too, was amazed by the dramatic improvement in
>> ride and handling when I switched over to Michelin radials in the
>> early '70s.
>>
>> Dave
>> '68 1600
>> Kailua-Kona
>>
>> On Friday, November 16, 2007, at 06:41 PM, Jerry Krakauer wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think I ever knew the actual width, but they were the
>>> "thin"  style, did not go to the wheel lip. Looked just like the
>>> picture on the cover of the owners manual.

From garytew at cox.net  Sun Nov 18 09:32:12 2007
From: garytew at cox.net (Gary Tew)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:32:12 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Radio console setup
Message-ID: <4740690C.9080504@cox.net>

I installed the center radio console yesterday.   I had all of the 
cables for the vents etc except for the one that opens and closes the 
doors of the heater box.  It looks like it's just a straight wire from 
the doors to the control arm but I'm not sure.  Anyone have a schematic 
or discription of this wire?   Getting closer.....


Gary Tew
Peoria, AZ
early '67 1600
www.members.cox.net/garytew

From tom at datsun2000.com  Sun Nov 18 09:56:48 2007
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 08:56:48 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Radio console setup
In-Reply-To: <4740690C.9080504@cox.net>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGEEIFDDAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Gary,

It sounds like you have it right about a straight wire between the control
lever and the heater box doors and heater valve.

If your cables are stiff, or you need to make custom length cables, here is
how I made new cables for Mr. Hyde.

I went to my local bicycle shop and purchased 1.8mm ID flexible tubing they
use to house the brake and gear change cables.  They sell this housing by
the foot.  Then I went to a hobby shop and purchased a standard cut length
of 0.055" control wire, which is the same diameter Datsun used for the
heater controls.  This is a very hard, stiff wire that slides very easily
inside of the bicycle control housing.  This combination is really much
better than the original heater control cables and fits all of the original
mounts.

I used two pairs of pliers to make the Z bends at the end of the wire.
Someone on the list recommended heating the wire after bending to release
the tension so the wire is less likely to break at the bends at some time
down the road.

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
 Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Gary Tew
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 8:32 AM
To: datsun list datsun
Subject: [Roadsters] Radio console setup


I installed the center radio console yesterday.   I had all of the
cables for the vents etc except for the one that opens and closes the
doors of the heater box.  It looks like it's just a straight wire from
the doors to the control arm but I'm not sure.  Anyone have a schematic
or discription of this wire?   Getting closer.....


Gary Tew
Peoria, AZ
early '67 1600
www.members.cox.net/garytew

From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Sun Nov 18 10:33:42 2007
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:33:42 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-W33956C201ED8C1819545A1AF830@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20071118173341.ZKNJ9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>

Yeah...  Don't heat the nuts.
If it's a double nut main shaft the assembly spec as I recall is to tighten
the front nut against the gear cluster at about 20 or 25 Ft. lbs (check that
figure) and then to back it off against the lock nut at 220ft.lbs!  That
means that the lock nut is TIGHT.
The pair of wrenches that I used on mine were about a foot long so I secured
the trans well and then stood and bounced on the end of the wrench until it
gave in.

________________________________
BRIAN HOLLANDS
69 2000
Tampa FL



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From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Sun Nov 18 11:18:51 2007
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:18:51 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...
In-Reply-To: <20071118173341.ZKNJ9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
References: <20071118173341.ZKNJ9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
Message-ID: <4740820B.1060703@hornesystemstx.com>

220 lbs is pretty tight. Back in my younger decades I did air cooled VW 
repairs and the gland nut on the flywheel was to be tightened to 225 
ft/lbs., plus locktite.  This took a 4' pipe on a 3/4" drive socket to 
break loose. I also used the pipe and my bathroom scale to get it 
tightened properly before I got a 250 ft/lb torque wrench.

The design was different than the Roadster 5th gear in that the VW used 
4 machined pins to locate the flywheel, which didn't allow for any slop. 
As I understand it the 5th gear is splined and has a small amount of 
slop, which allows the nut to loosen up. I always wondered if it was 
really required that the gland nut be  that tight, or whether they just 
wanted to be SURE it wouldn't come loose no matter what!

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Brian Hollands:
> Yeah...  Don't heat the nuts.
> If it's a double nut main shaft the assembly spec as I recall is to tighten
> the front nut against the gear cluster at about 20 or 25 Ft. lbs (check that
> figure) and then to back it off against the lock nut at 220ft.lbs!  That
> means that the lock nut is TIGHT.
> The pair of wrenches that I used on mine were about a foot long so I secured
> the trans well and then stood and bounced on the end of the wrench until it
> gave in.
>
> ________________________________
> BRIAN HOLLANDS
> 69 2000
> Tampa FL
>
>
>
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From akarcioglu at telus.net  Sun Nov 18 16:47:31 2007
From: akarcioglu at telus.net (alp)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:47:31 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] better be careful.....
Message-ID: <1195429651.4740cf1337c7f@webmail.telus.net>

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=429877&in_page_id=1770

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun Nov 18 17:39:15 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:39:15 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...
In-Reply-To: <4740820B.1060703@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <20071118173341.ZKNJ9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
	<4740820B.1060703@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W7AD7E94AF5606E6CA4681DF7E0@phx.gbl>

When I had my 5 speed rebult - they just welded the 5th gear in placePeter1970
SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:18:51 -0600> From:
roadsters at hornesystemstx.com> To: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com> CC:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission
question...> > 220 lbs is pretty tight. Back in my younger decades I did air
cooled VW > repairs and the gland nut on the flywheel was to be tightened to
225 > ft/lbs., plus locktite. This took a 4' pipe on a 3/4" drive socket to >
break loose. I also used the pipe and my bathroom scale to get it > tightened
properly before I got a 250 ft/lb torque wrench.> > The design was different
than the Roadster 5th gear in that the VW used > 4 machined pins to locate the
flywheel, which didn't allow for any slop. > As I understand it the 5th gear
is splined and has a small amount of > slop, which allows the nut to loosen
up. I always wondered if it was > really required that the gland nut be that
tight, or whether they just > wanted to be SURE it wouldn't come loose no
matter what!> > Peace,> Pat> > Thusly spake Brian Hollands:> > Yeah... Don't
heat the nuts.> > If it's a double nut main shaft the assembly spec as I
recall is to tighten> > the front nut against the gear cluster at about 20 or
25 Ft. lbs (check that> > figure) and then to back it off against the lock nut
at 220ft.lbs! That> > means that the lock nut is TIGHT.> > The pair of
wrenches that I used on mine were about a foot long so I secured> > the trans
well and then stood and bounced on the end of the wrench until it> > gave in.>
>> > ________________________________> > BRIAN HOLLANDS> > 69 2000> > Tampa
FL> >> >> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > Checked by AVG Free
Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date:
11/17/2007> > 2:55 PM> > > >
------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >
________________________________________> >> > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com>
>> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> >> >
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> > > > > -- > Pat
Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001>
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443> www.hornesystemstx.com> -- We
support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun Nov 18 17:39:11 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:39:11 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...
In-Reply-To: <4740820B.1060703@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <20071118173341.ZKNJ9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
	<4740820B.1060703@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W363512FF01A8EDA43EF5F6DF7E0@phx.gbl>

When I had my 5 speed rebult - they just welded the 5th gear in placePeter1970
SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:18:51 -0600> From:
roadsters at hornesystemstx.com> To: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com> CC:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission
question...> > 220 lbs is pretty tight. Back in my younger decades I did air
cooled VW > repairs and the gland nut on the flywheel was to be tightened to
225 > ft/lbs., plus locktite. This took a 4' pipe on a 3/4" drive socket to >
break loose. I also used the pipe and my bathroom scale to get it > tightened
properly before I got a 250 ft/lb torque wrench.> > The design was different
than the Roadster 5th gear in that the VW used > 4 machined pins to locate the
flywheel, which didn't allow for any slop. > As I understand it the 5th gear
is splined and has a small amount of > slop, which allows the nut to loosen
up. I always wondered if it was > really required that the gland nut be that
tight, or whether they just > wanted to be SURE it wouldn't come loose no
matter what!> > Peace,> Pat> > Thusly spake Brian Hollands:> > Yeah... Don't
heat the nuts.> > If it's a double nut main shaft the assembly spec as I
recall is to tighten> > the front nut against the gear cluster at about 20 or
25 Ft. lbs (check that> > figure) and then to back it off against the lock nut
at 220ft.lbs! That> > means that the lock nut is TIGHT.> > The pair of
wrenches that I used on mine were about a foot long so I secured> > the trans
well and then stood and bounced on the end of the wrench until it> > gave in.>
>> > ________________________________> > BRIAN HOLLANDS> > 69 2000> > Tampa
FL> >> >> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > Checked by AVG Free
Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date:
11/17/2007> > 2:55 PM> > > >
------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >
________________________________________> >> > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com>
>> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> >> >
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> > > > > -- > Pat
Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001>
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443> www.hornesystemstx.com> -- We
support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun Nov 18 17:39:09 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:39:09 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...
In-Reply-To: <4740820B.1060703@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <20071118173341.ZKNJ9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
	<4740820B.1060703@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W16286C37B27460F0F0159EDF7E0@phx.gbl>

When I had my 5 speed rebult - they just welded the 5th gear in placePeter1970
SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:18:51 -0600> From:
roadsters at hornesystemstx.com> To: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com> CC:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission
question...> > 220 lbs is pretty tight. Back in my younger decades I did air
cooled VW > repairs and the gland nut on the flywheel was to be tightened to
225 > ft/lbs., plus locktite. This took a 4' pipe on a 3/4" drive socket to >
break loose. I also used the pipe and my bathroom scale to get it > tightened
properly before I got a 250 ft/lb torque wrench.> > The design was different
than the Roadster 5th gear in that the VW used > 4 machined pins to locate the
flywheel, which didn't allow for any slop. > As I understand it the 5th gear
is splined and has a small amount of > slop, which allows the nut to loosen
up. I always wondered if it was > really required that the gland nut be that
tight, or whether they just > wanted to be SURE it wouldn't come loose no
matter what!> > Peace,> Pat> > Thusly spake Brian Hollands:> > Yeah... Don't
heat the nuts.> > If it's a double nut main shaft the assembly spec as I
recall is to tighten> > the front nut against the gear cluster at about 20 or
25 Ft. lbs (check that> > figure) and then to back it off against the lock nut
at 220ft.lbs! That> > means that the lock nut is TIGHT.> > The pair of
wrenches that I used on mine were about a foot long so I secured> > the trans
well and then stood and bounced on the end of the wrench until it> > gave in.>
>> > ________________________________> > BRIAN HOLLANDS> > 69 2000> > Tampa
FL> >> >> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > Checked by AVG Free
Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date:
11/17/2007> > 2:55 PM> > > >
------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >
________________________________________> >> > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com>
>> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> >> >
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> > > > > -- > Pat
Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001>
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443> www.hornesystemstx.com> -- We
support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun Nov 18 17:39:13 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:39:13 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...
In-Reply-To: <4740820B.1060703@hornesystemstx.com>
References: <20071118173341.ZKNJ9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
	<4740820B.1060703@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W286C986D7022067AC8E68FDF7E0@phx.gbl>

When I had my 5 speed rebult - they just welded the 5th gear in placePeter1970
SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:18:51 -0600> From:
roadsters at hornesystemstx.com> To: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com> CC:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission
question...> > 220 lbs is pretty tight. Back in my younger decades I did air
cooled VW > repairs and the gland nut on the flywheel was to be tightened to
225 > ft/lbs., plus locktite. This took a 4' pipe on a 3/4" drive socket to >
break loose. I also used the pipe and my bathroom scale to get it > tightened
properly before I got a 250 ft/lb torque wrench.> > The design was different
than the Roadster 5th gear in that the VW used > 4 machined pins to locate the
flywheel, which didn't allow for any slop. > As I understand it the 5th gear
is splined and has a small amount of > slop, which allows the nut to loosen
up. I always wondered if it was > really required that the gland nut be that
tight, or whether they just > wanted to be SURE it wouldn't come loose no
matter what!> > Peace,> Pat> > Thusly spake Brian Hollands:> > Yeah... Don't
heat the nuts.> > If it's a double nut main shaft the assembly spec as I
recall is to tighten> > the front nut against the gear cluster at about 20 or
25 Ft. lbs (check that> > figure) and then to back it off against the lock nut
at 220ft.lbs! That> > means that the lock nut is TIGHT.> > The pair of
wrenches that I used on mine were about a foot long so I secured> > the trans
well and then stood and bounced on the end of the wrench until it> > gave in.>
>> > ________________________________> > BRIAN HOLLANDS> > 69 2000> > Tampa
FL> >> >> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > Checked by AVG Free
Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date:
11/17/2007> > 2:55 PM> > > >
------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >
________________________________________> >> > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com>
>> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> >> >
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> > > > > -- > Pat
Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001>
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443> www.hornesystemstx.com> -- We
support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --

From ken__pearce at hotmail.com  Sun Nov 18 20:22:09 2007
From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:22:09 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...[Picture...]
In-Reply-To: <BAY124-W20043873CA1C2F9319BDD0BF7D0@phx.gbl>
References: <029b01c828cc$6b02e390$6600a8c0@chrissy>
	<BAY124-W20043873CA1C2F9319BDD0BF7D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY104-W3494FD954305B02BA571ECAF7E0@phx.gbl>

Thanks to all who have responded on my question regarding the 5spd tranny
mainshaft locknut.

Here's a picture of the beastie:

http://boatstuff.europabeat.com/5spd_mainshaft_nuts.jpg

No tabs to flatten or anything like that, it must just be on there TIGHT!  The
shiny part on the locknut is where my crescent wrench slipped off.  I have two
18" adjustable wrenches and two 3' sections of steel pipe for breaker bars.  I
looked closely at the threads and they appear to be right-hand standard
threads.  I'll give it another try...

Thanks again.

Ken Pearce
Bellingham, WA

From dato1500 at hotmail.com  Sun Nov 18 20:48:29 2007
From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:48:29 +0800
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...[Picture...]
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-W3494FD954305B02BA571ECAF7E0@phx.gbl>
References: <029b01c828cc$6b02e390$6600a8c0@chrissy>
	<BAY124-W20043873CA1C2F9319BDD0BF7D0@phx.gbl> 
	<BAY104-W3494FD954305B02BA571ECAF7E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY102-W4093BFBBB35CC074BB4B04D57E0@phx.gbl>

There is a product made by the Loctite group that will reduce the temp (
freezing) of the shaft causing the steel to shrink only the smallest amount
and that can help in removing those tight nuts. The other option is to pack
the shaft in a combination of ice and rock salt and this will help as well. I
have used this method on the axle collars.

Pete> From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:22:09 -0800> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-spd
Transmission question...[Picture...]> > Thanks to all who have responded on my
question regarding the 5spd tranny> mainshaft locknut.> > Here's a picture of
the beastie:> > http://boatstuff.europabeat.com/5spd_mainshaft_nuts.jpg> > No
tabs to flatten or anything like that, it must just be on there TIGHT! The>
shiny part on the locknut is where my crescent wrench slipped off. I have two>
18" adjustable wrenches and two 3' sections of steel pipe for breaker bars. I>
looked closely at the threads and they appear to be right-hand standard>
threads. I'll give it another try...> > Thanks again.> > Ken Pearce>
Bellingham, WA> ________________________________________> >
dato1500 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >
http://www.team.net/archive> >
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters
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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Sun Nov 18 20:52:29 2007
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:52:29 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...
Message-ID: <20071118.195229.7843.0@webmail16.vgs.untd.com>

This is why transmissions are the only thing I have not and will not do on a
Roadster... I leave trans stuff to the professionals!
Greg Burrows


-- peter harrison <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> wrote:
When I had my 5 speed rebult - they just welded the 5th gear in
placePeter1970
SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:18:51 -0600> From:
roadsters at hornesystemstx.com> To: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com> CC:
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission
question...> > 220 lbs is pretty tight. Back in my younger decades I did air
cooled VW > repairs and the gland nut on the flywheel was to be tightened to
225 > ft/lbs., plus locktite. This took a 4' pipe on a 3/4" drive socket to >
break loose. I also used the pipe and my bathroom scale to get it > tightened
properly before I got a 250 ft/lb torque wrench.> > The design was different
than the Roadster 5th gear in that the VW used > 4 machined pins to locate
the
flywheel, which didn't allow for any slop. > As I understand it the 5th gear
is splined and has a small amount of > slop, which allows the nut to loosen
up. I always wondered if it was > really required that the gland nut be that
tight, or whether they just > wanted to be SURE it wouldn't come loose no
matter what!> > Peace,> Pat> > Thusly spake Brian Hollands:> > Yeah... Don't
heat the nuts.> > If it's a double nut main shaft the assembly spec as I
recall is to tighten> > the front nut against the gear cluster at about 20 or
25 Ft. lbs (check that> > figure) and then to back it off against the lock
nut
at 220ft.lbs! That> > means that the lock nut is TIGHT.> > The pair of
wrenches that I used on mine were about a foot long so I secured> > the trans
well and then stood and bounced on the end of the wrench until it> > gave
in.>
>> > ________________________________> > BRIAN HOLLANDS> > 69 2000> > Tampa
FL> >> >> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > Checked by AVG
Free
Edition. > > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.0/1136 - Release Date:
11/17/2007> > 2:55 PM> > > >
------------------------------------------------------------------------> >>
>
________________________________________> >> > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com>
>> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> >> > http://www.team.net/archive> >> >
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> > > > > -- > Pat
Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001>
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443> www.hornesystemstx.com> -- We
support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --
Datsun-roadsters mailing list

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters

From garytew at cox.net  Sun Nov 18 22:41:15 2007
From: garytew at cox.net (Gary Tew)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:41:15 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] radio console
Message-ID: <474121FB.70909@cox.net>

Thanks for the responses on the climate controls.  I made a cable today 
and everything seems to work correctly.

Gary Tew
Peoria, AZ

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 19 08:46:32 2007
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:46:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] eBay Engine
Message-ID: <E1Iu8pP-0003Ki-0p@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi folks,

Anyone know what the final sale price of the U20 engine in Florida was? I
forgot to "watch" it, so I missed out. 

Matt

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Mon Nov 19 08:55:21 2007
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 09:55:21 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] eBay Engine
In-Reply-To: <E1Iu8pP-0003Ki-0p@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1Iu8pP-0003Ki-0p@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4741B1E9.2010405@hornesystemstx.com>

Matt,

How long ago? I don't see one listed. You can go to "advanced search", 
enter the information, check "completed listings only" and it should 
come up. I don't know how long they keep these items in the system, but 
when I searched for "Datsun engine" or "Datsun U20", I didn't see one.

Thusly spake Matthew A. Smith:
> Hi folks,
>
> Anyone know what the final sale price of the U20 engine in Florida was? I
> forgot to "watch" it, so I missed out. 
>
> Matt
> ________________________________________
>
> roadsters at hornesystemstx.com
>
> Datsun-roadsters mailing list
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters
>
>
>   


-- 
Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems 
(512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
www.hornesystemstx.com
-- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 19 09:46:23 2007
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:46:23 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 11-17-07 Georgia Rally (some Roadster/List Member
 content) and Cannonball Run.
Message-ID: <E1Iu9lK-00068R-7I@elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Did you all see that the Cannonball Run has a new record? Manhattan, NY to
Santa Monica, CA in 31 hrs 4 min. Here's a link, if you missed it:

 

http://www.wired.com/cars/coolwheels/magazine/15-11/ff_cannonballrun

 

I had a WONDERFUL day on Saturday driving Loreli through the North Georgia
Mountains with the Georgia Triumph Association and the Georgia Sports Car
Club. Thanks again for the invite Eric! Your Opal GT is SO nice! 

 

You guys would have loved to see the burgundy MG with the Olds F-85 V8
engine and Offenhauser intake paired with a T5 transmission. One incredible
machine! The owner has THOUSANDS of hours into that car from engineering, to
polishing, to fabricating. Even the guy driving the M5 series BMW had a hard
time keeping up with him! At the end (Jerry's Pizza in Dawsonville, GA) he
got out of the Bimmer and said "I can't believe how fast that thing is".
I'll post some pix of the rally after I get em back from the film processor.
I used the 35mm camera instead of the digital.

 

I'm pretty sure Eric and co-pilot (sorry, I missed her name. or forgot it.
My memory ain't what it used to be) had the high score (low score is
better). I was following him because my co-pilot was my dog Tater. He's a
great mechanic, but can't read maps worth a damn, so was just along for the
drive. The course was to be, at the speed limit, 1hour and 40 minutes for
each leg (begin to midpoint/midpoint to finish). We answered almost none of
the 100 "sign" questions and were at least 30 minutes ahead of schedule on
each leg!!! This = a REALLY bad score, but a HELL of a lot of fun!

 

I have a new appreciation of what Loreli is capable of. She's my daily
driver and only car so I don't push her TOO hard (she rarely sees 5000 RPM
unless I'm showing off to the "tuners", who hang out at local parking lots
on the weekends, by burning both rear tires (YAY for Posi!). But, she's
going to get some "exercise" this week! I'm driving. the long way. through
North Georgia and North Alabama, to Nashville on Tuesday to be with family
on Thanksgiving. I've allowed myself 10 hours for the 2 hour drive (if I
were driving direct). 

 

I'm to the Chattanooga Region SCCA meeting tomorrow to learn more about
membership. I've got the bug! Dangit. now I need a grocery getter car!

 

Hoping to meet up with Peter Harrison and TOAD SAN (Eliza) this coming week
on his "coast to coast to coast" trip!

 

Matt Smith

And Loreli

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 19 10:26:00 2007
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:26:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] eBay Engine
In-Reply-To: <003501c82ac6$ce37be30$a064a343@craigzct1uylo4>
Message-ID: <E1IuANf-0006gr-Ft@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

This is too weird. Craig found it. I can't. Apparently Tim can't either. It
was for a U20 with approx 76,000 miles on it, removed for a SR20 swap. Used
all the tips I got (such as the "completed items" box). I believe it must
have been sold/removed from eBay. I last saw it at just over $81 (+200
shipping). Hell... I could have gotten that just for the HEAD or the SU
Intake! LOL! Actually, I wanted it as a backup/project. I think I had my Mom
talked into getting it for me for Christmas! LMAO! Oh, well. 
Matt

Craig, if you have access to the eBay item number, maybe I can search that
way. Dunno.

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Halsted [mailto:chalsted at comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:11 AM
To: Matthew A. Smith
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] eBay Engine

Hi Matt,

just run a datsun roadster search, your item has 12 hours and change left to
go... good luck :-)

Craig

From tputland at charter.net  Mon Nov 19 10:37:41 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 9:37:41 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] eBay Engine
In-Reply-To: <E1IuANf-0006gr-Ft@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <20071119123741.INVC0.192656.root@fepweb14>

There it is. Not completed (why are searches didn't find it) and still a good deal where it currently stands. Ebay #150182481689.
--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- "Matthew A. Smith" <matthews517 at earthlink.net> wrote: 

=============
This is too weird. Craig found it. I can't. Apparently Tim can't either. It
was for a U20 with approx 76,000 miles on it, removed for a SR20 swap. Used
all the tips I got (such as the "completed items" box). I believe it must
have been sold/removed from eBay. I last saw it at just over $81 (+200
shipping). Hell... I could have gotten that just for the HEAD or the SU
Intake! LOL! Actually, I wanted it as a backup/project. I think I had my Mom
talked into getting it for me for Christmas! LMAO! Oh, well. 
Matt

Craig, if you have access to the eBay item number, maybe I can search that
way. Dunno.

-----Original Message-----
From: Craig Halsted [mailto:chalsted at comcast.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 11:11 AM
To: Matthew A. Smith
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] eBay Engine

Hi Matt,

just run a datsun roadster search, your item has 12 hours and change left to
go... good luck :-)

Craig
________________________________________

From tomet9 at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov 19 16:30:49 2007
From: tomet9 at sbcglobal.net (Tom PRATHER)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:30:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Vacuum advance?
Message-ID: <452498.9941.qm@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The List,
   
       Can some one please enlighten me to the facts on vacuum advance? Before the conversion to Mikuni flatslides  I had my timing set to 16 degrees as U20's should be with SU's (presmog). The car never pinged or at least it wasn't audible to me and ran good. I am now tuning the flatslides to that sweet zone where jetting is almost on but I have this off idle ping and stumble that doesn't allow me to get a great launch. I have even backed off on the timing some more to about 10-12 dgrees but no go. I know on the U20 w/Solexes are set to 20 degrees w/advance off. What is the reason for not having the advance with these hi performance carbs? Wouldn't one want it to overcome that big hole on launches where velocity is slow? I am presently running without advance. Once I baby it past 2500rpm it goes like a bat out of hell but I don't need holes in my piston either. Do I need to have my Boone EI reworked? Thanks  guys, 
                                                        Tom, 69 U20 w/Mikuni Flat Slide RS-40

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Mon Nov 19 16:34:06 2007
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 17:34:06 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...[Picture...]
References: <029b01c828cc$6b02e390$6600a8c0@chrissy><BAY124-W20043873CA1C2F9319BDD0BF7D0@phx.gbl>
	<BAY104-W3494FD954305B02BA571ECAF7E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <007c01c82b04$ad888cd0$6500a8c0@lap>

Well, since the proud parents who have given birth to 5-speed rebuilds are
showing pics, here's are some close-ups of mine, of the "double-nut on the
welded 5th gear". My gear was re-welded and honed by Mark DeGroff out in
California.
http://community.webshots.com/album/559913726VaVelz.

I have many more photos of the rebuild, I have never worked on a
transmission before, EVER! and I did it all by myself with the help of Scott
Scheeler's books.
Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5-Speed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "The Ken Pearce" <ken__pearce at hotmail.com>
To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...[Picture...]


> Thanks to all who have responded on my question regarding the 5spd tranny
> mainshaft locknut.
>
> Here's a picture of the beastie:
>
> http://boatstuff.europabeat.com/5spd_mainshaft_nuts.jpg
>
> No tabs to flatten or anything like that, it must just be on there TIGHT!
The
> shiny part on the locknut is where my crescent wrench slipped off.  I have
two
> 18" adjustable wrenches and two 3' sections of steel pipe for breaker
bars.  I
> looked closely at the threads and they appear to be right-hand standard
> threads.  I'll give it another try...
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Ken Pearce
> Bellingham, WA

From graemes at internode.on.net  Mon Nov 19 17:16:53 2007
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:46:53 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Vacuum advance?
In-Reply-To: <452498.9941.qm@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <452498.9941.qm@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000601c82b0a$aa9d9320$426fa8c0@desktop>

As the name implies, it is a mechanism which will introduce a measure of
ignition advance when the engine generates high vacuum.
It is PORTED vacuum i.e. only available when the throttle butterfly has
opened past a certain point.
It only has any effect in part throttle applications, which is usually
CRUISE.
It is primarily an ECONOMY/EMISSIONS feature.
Under part throttle the intake manifold generates high vacuum and
compression pressures are low.
With this lower pressure the mixture does not burn as rapidly.
To obtain maximum efficiency under such conditions, and economy, the spark
event should be advanced more than is possible by the centrifigal system. 
That extra is provided by vacuum advance system.
Jump on the loud peddle and there is no vacuum in the system, [everything
goes to atmospheric pressure instantly] to act on the vacuum motor to alter
the timing, so it relaxes and you fall back on the centrifugal system only.

If you have got a "hole" at off idle, maybe there is a lack of suitable
accelerator pump function, or a jetting problem?


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From mark at dealermats.com  Mon Nov 19 17:41:40 2007
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 19:41:40 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Ebay motor
Message-ID: <001101c82b0e$254207c0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>

150182481689

It is at $500 with 4 hours to go

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Mon Nov 19 21:54:08 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:54:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd Transmission question...[Picture...]
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-W4093BFBBB35CC074BB4B04D57E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000501c82b31$635b0340$6600a8c0@chrissy>

Whatever it takes, buy, borrow or steal,or get the proper wrenches,
preferably 6 point box wrenches, to fit both nuts.  Adjustable wrenches are
not made for that much torque.  One way might work, you can secure one
wrench in a strong vise, have an assistant hold the transmission with the
inner nut in the secured wrench, put the other wrench on the lock nut and
apply as much force as you can while still maintaining control.  If you then
use a medium steel hammer and strike the wrench where it is wrapped around
the outer nut sharply, not necessarilly extremely hard, the combination of
torque and impact may break it loose.  Could do the same with two wrenches
and try to squeeze them together like giant pliers, again with someone to
steady the assembly and then striking the outer wrench to shock it.
Remember, the goal is to turn the locknut away from the nut under it, not to
loosen the outer nut in relation to the shaft.  If both nuts turn together
in relation to the shaft, it will gnarl up the threads. Remember, it works
just as well to hold the lock nut and tighten the inner nut toward the gear,
all it takes to break the hold of the lock nut is about 1/16-1/32 of a turn
in relation to the inner nut.

If sombody used red or blue Loctite, you WILL need a mild amount of heat to
break the bond, like 20 seconds with a propane torch and you may see it melt
and bubble out or smoke.




Pete> From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com> To:
Pete> datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:22:09 -0800> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-spd
Transmission question...[Picture...]> > Thanks to all who have responded on
my question regarding the 5spd tranny> mainshaft locknut.> > Here's a
picture of the beastie:> >
http://boatstuff.europabeat.com/5spd_mainshaft_nuts.jpg> > No tabs to
flatten or anything like that, it must just be on there TIGHT! The> shiny
part on the locknut is where my crescent wrench slipped off. I have two> 18"
adjustable wrenches and two 3' sections of steel pipe for breaker bars. I>
looked closely at the threads and they appear to be right-hand standard>
threads. I'll give it another try...> > Thanks again.> > Ken Pearce>
Bellingham, WA> ________________________________________> >
dato1500 at hotmail.com> >

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Tue Nov 20 00:32:14 2007
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:32:14 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Life is a matter of minutes
Message-ID: <20071119.233214.3432.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>

Hi list, guess what I got tangled up in after work?  Fortunately I was driving
my 2000 Celica GTS, not the Roadster...
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/updates/story/207722.html
Was there about 2 minutes after it happened, could not believe what I saw.  My
car was one of the "five damaged by debris in the deadly crash" as I ran over
huge pieces of metal at 60 miles an hour, destroying my right front tire and
wheel, bending two cross members up front under the car and breaking the front
airdam.  Got the car stopped a ways down the road.  Walked past the semi truck
which was missing all of its front suspension and was pouring fuel out of its
punctured tanks.  Next to the truck was the cylinder head from the Golf, about
75 yards or more away from the car.  Walked past the Golf and was glad I did
not look in, as the entire front of the car was gone, the transmission sitting
in the west bound lanes on the other side of the freeway, with pieces of car
scattered all over.  My mind noted the head gasket sitting on the ground.  Had
to leave my car on the side of the road, and Tammy my girl friend came and
picked me up a couple hours later.  My car is home now after being towed to
me, appearing quite repairable and without damage to major things like the
engine or trans, though I am not happy about the frame.  I'm waiting on
insurance info from the state patrol so I can contact the drivers provider and
get my car inspected, as I only have liability on the Celica.
Here's the deal... When I left work a few minutes earlier, I forgot to clock
out.  Because of this it required that I drive out of the parking lot, go back
to the ER employee entrance door, go inside and swipe my card... about 2
minutes... just enough time for me to avoid the accident 10 minutes later.
Funny how life works.
Be safe my friends.  Don't "run out of talent" as my race driver friend Carl
says, and watch for those who are.
Greg Burrows
'67 2000 (safely in the garage next to the wounded Celica)

From akarcioglu at telus.net  Tue Nov 20 01:33:29 2007
From: akarcioglu at telus.net (alp)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:33:29 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] ultimate cheapo ricer upgrade......
Message-ID: <1195547609.47429bd9c7473@webmail.telus.net>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Caliper-covers-kit-Dummy-Big-brake-kit-New-Brembo-BMW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33563QQihZ011QQitemZ320171927336QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Tue Nov 20 04:09:49 2007
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:09:49 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Peter's trip updates?
Message-ID: <01b801c82b66$0f1a4ea0$9021ffd8@hpcustomer>

  Is anybody getting updates on Peter's trip from Arizona to DC on the list?
I haven't seen anything at all except email directly from him.

Paul
Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: peter harrison
To: Paul
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Acknowledgements


strange that you aren't receiving list info - wonder why.

Peter
1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)

From RWM at RWMann.com  Tue Nov 20 04:36:52 2007
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:36:52 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] ultimate cheapo ricer upgrade......
In-Reply-To: <1195547609.47429bd9c7473@webmail.telus.net>
References: <1195547609.47429bd9c7473@webmail.telus.net>
Message-ID: <4742C6D4.4030508@RWMann.com>

alp wrote:

>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Caliper-covers-kit-Dummy-Big-brake-kit-New-Brembo-BMW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33563QQihZ011QQitemZ320171927336QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
>________________________________________
>
>  
>


It's nearing the holidays. 

Don't fool around.  Fer sher, go for the 12-pot brake upgrade:

http://motors.search.ebay.com/?from=R40&satitle=Caliper+covers+kit+Brembo+Big+brake+NEW+Endless+12+pot

And why stop at fronts.  Install the rear disc upgrade, too:

http://motors.search.ebay.com/ROTOR-COVERS-DICS-BRAKE-LOOK-DUMMY-CALIPER-COVERS-KIT_W0QQfromZR40

Plant the rears better, too.  Add a carbon fiber wing:

http://motors.search.ebay.com/?from=R40&satitle=59+INCH+CARBON+FIBER+3D+GT+WING+SPOILER+DRIFT+N1+RACE

Of course all this stopping and sticking means a need for way, way more 
raw power:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300163790097

Enjoy!

From JeffVH at aol.com  Tue Nov 20 05:06:14 2007
From: JeffVH at aol.com (JeffVH at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:06:14 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Peter's trip updates?
Message-ID: <d4b.185e0dde.347427b6@aol.com>

Hi Paul
Nope, I'm not seeing any progress reports via the list here  either.
Jeff Von Holten
Columbus OH
 
In a message dated 11/20/2007 6:14:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
9laser3 at bright.net writes:

Is anybody getting updates on Peter's trip from Arizona to DC on the  list?
I haven't seen anything at all except email directly from  him.

Paul
Ohio


 



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From bmccarthy67 at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 20 06:14:35 2007
From: bmccarthy67 at hotmail.com (John McCarthy)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:14:35 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Life is a matter of minutes
In-Reply-To: <20071119.233214.3432.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20071119.233214.3432.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <BLU116-W2685587AC36EDE7D83B719B77F0@phx.gbl>

Greg, sorry to read about such a horrific accident, but I'm glad to hear a
list member is safe.

v/r
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 20 06:19:50 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 05:19:50 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] test
Message-ID: <BAY106-W16BA54E9E60221429F1103DF7F0@phx.gbl>

This just a test - for some reason it appears that my trip updates are not
making the list.

Jeff,Paul,Mark could you please respond if you get this email.

ThxPeter1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 20 07:24:22 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:24:22 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Tonneau Cover Question
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0711200624j27a859b7w38d54a70e31d9a4@mail.gmail.com>

Hey List,
I got this Tonneau Cover real cheap. the head rest pockets were sewn
shut (poorly done) and it was said to be for a '68 Roadster.  I have a
'66 and since it was cheap... Well, it is not fitting, to narrow and
comes up a bit short on the dash.  Are the driving compartments that
different with the years?



~Chris
-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one.

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Tue Nov 20 07:27:28 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:27:28 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Evil-L - What to do?
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOKEFMNIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

Everyone,

Thanks for helping me trouble shoot my U20 death-rattle. Someone, I'm not
naming names, put in the tensioner gasket upside down, completely blocking
the oil hole.

Fortunately I caught the problem before the rattling chain tore off the
evil-l. But not before it took some chunks of metal out of it and bent it
about 30-degrees from 12 o'clock.  Now the question, what to do?

Do I:

1) Bend old evil back into place.
2) Saw it off.
3) Buy a new one.
4) Assume that now that I've fixed my chain tension problem that the bracket
will stay where it is.

Nathaniel Leeds
U20 - '69

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Tue Nov 20 07:30:53 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:30:53 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEFNNIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

I have an original emergency jack -- but no crank. Has anyone had any luck
getting these cranks from junk yards, or improvising something with a socket
wrench?

N

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Tue Nov 20 08:21:20 2007
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:21:20 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEFNNIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEFNNIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <4742FB70.400@hornesystemstx.com>

The general consensus is that the factory jacks are for show only and 
not for actual use. They are very good at digging into the doors when 
the car decides to move. Having said that, I have used mine several 
times without any problems. YMMV.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Nathaniel Leeds:
> I have an original emergency jack -- but no crank. Has anyone had any luck
> getting these cranks from junk yards, or improvising something with a socket
> wrench?
>
> N
> ________________________________________
>
> roadsters at hornesystemstx.com
>
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>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters
>
>
>   


-- 
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(512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
www.hornesystemstx.com
-- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 20 08:54:01 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 07:54:01 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Tonneau Cover - Question Answered
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0711200754v138084cyfcf26a5fa923b107@mail.gmail.com>

Well not that I got my question answered about the proper fit for a Tonneau
Cover.  Does anyone need a Tonneau Cover for a high Windshield ('68)
Roadster? The head rest are patched over, I will fix the seam on the patch
job that came apart.

I will let this go cheap and I will pick up another one that fits..
If anyone is interested give me a shout.

~Chris


-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one.

From pjmill at sonic.net  Tue Nov 20 11:25:46 2007
From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill at sonic.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:25:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Life is a matter of minutes
In-Reply-To: <20071119.233214.3432.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20071119.233214.3432.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <19134.151.151.21.101.1195583146.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net>

Wow....  This is true horror.  In the flash of a second life and all we
know and are can be gone!  We're not immortal my friends.  Stay safe!

Paul

> Hi list, guess what I got tangled up in after work?  Fortunately I was
> driving
> my 2000 Celica GTS, not the Roadster...
> http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/updates/story/207722.html
> Was there about 2 minutes after it happened, could not believe what I saw.
>  My
> car was one of the "five damaged by debris in the deadly crash" as I ran
> over
> huge pieces of metal at 60 miles an hour, destroying my right front tire
> and
> wheel, bending two cross members up front under the car and breaking the
> front
> airdam.  Got the car stopped a ways down the road.  Walked past the semi
> truck
> which was missing all of its front suspension and was pouring fuel out of
> its
> punctured tanks.  Next to the truck was the cylinder head from the Golf,
> about
> 75 yards or more away from the car.  Walked past the Golf and was glad I
> did
> not look in, as the entire front of the car was gone, the transmission
> sitting
> in the west bound lanes on the other side of the freeway, with pieces of
> car
> scattered all over.  My mind noted the head gasket sitting on the ground.
> Had
> to leave my car on the side of the road, and Tammy my girl friend came and
> picked me up a couple hours later.  My car is home now after being towed
> to
> me, appearing quite repairable and without damage to major things like the
> engine or trans, though I am not happy about the frame.  I'm waiting on
> insurance info from the state patrol so I can contact the drivers provider
> and
> get my car inspected, as I only have liability on the Celica.
> Here's the deal... When I left work a few minutes earlier, I forgot to
> clock
> out.  Because of this it required that I drive out of the parking lot, go
> back
> to the ER employee entrance door, go inside and swipe my card... about 2
> minutes... just enough time for me to avoid the accident 10 minutes later.
> Funny how life works.
> Be safe my friends.  Don't "run out of talent" as my race driver friend
> Carl
> says, and watch for those who are.
> Greg Burrows
> '67 2000 (safely in the garage next to the wounded Celica)
> ________________________________________
>
> pjmill at sonic.net
>
> Datsun-roadsters mailing list
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 20 12:06:24 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 11:06:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
In-Reply-To: <4742FB70.400@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <43118.99792.qm@web53501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Pat,
I've used mine several times without  inci"dent", also.  I set the base on a piece of thin rubber and lean it back away from the door slightly to begin with. However, I recently acquired one in a box of spare parts, and it's twisted!   Apparently they like to fall sideways as well as dig into the doors.  Perhaps we are just lucky?
Unfortunately, Nathaniel, this twisted boat anchor did not come with a crank. I have seen them on eBay a time or two.  Usually in parts lots.
Patti


Pat Horne <roadsters at hornesystemstx.com> wrote: The general consensus is that the factory jacks are for show only and 
not for actual use. They are very good at digging into the doors when 
the car decides to move. Having said that, I have used mine several 
times without any problems. YMMV.

Peace,
Pat

Thusly spake Nathaniel Leeds:
> I have an original emergency jack -- but no crank. Has anyone had any luck
> getting these cranks from junk yards, or improvising something with a socket
> wrench?
>
> N
> ________________________________________
>
> roadsters at hornesystemstx.com
>
> Datsun-roadsters mailing list
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters
>
>
>   


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(512) 797-7501 Voice  5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
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From 12061997 at comcast.net  Tue Nov 20 12:20:33 2007
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:20:33 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
Message-ID: <112020071920.15229.474333810007AC8000003B7D2207024553C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi List, I had a flat over thanksgiving weekend in 67 on the Pa Turnpike..I ended up with a dent when the jack slipped. This problem goes way back.....bob ballinger, muncie,in 67-1600

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: Patti Dwinell <fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com> 

> Pat, 
> I've used mine several times without inci"dent", also. I set the base on a 
> piece of thin rubber and lean it back away from the door slightly to begin with. 
> However, I recently acquired one in a box of spare parts, and it's twisted! 
> Apparently they like to fall sideways as well as dig into the doors. Perhaps we 
> are just lucky? 
> Unfortunately, Nathaniel, this twisted boat anchor did not come with a crank. I 
> have seen them on eBay a time or two. Usually in parts lots. 
> Patti 
> 
> 
> Pat Horne wrote: The general consensus is that 
> the factory jacks are for show only and 
> not for actual use. They are very good at digging into the doors when 
> the car decides to move. Having said that, I have used mine several 
> times without any problems. YMMV. 
> 
> Peace, 
> Pat 
> 
> Thusly spake Nathaniel Leeds: 
> > I have an original emergency jack -- but no crank. Has anyone had any luck 
> > getting these cranks from junk yards, or improvising something with a socket 
> > wrench? 
> > 
> > N 
> > ________________________________________ 
> > 
> > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com 
> > 
> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list 
> > 
> > http://www.team.net/archive 
> > 
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
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From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Tue Nov 20 13:09:29 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:09:29 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Header Frustration - ideas?
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOEEGANIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

I'm having a bunch of frustration with my header.

First frustration: it keeps eating the head-pipe gasket. I've now blown two
apart in 500 miles. Now I'm not a master mechanic but how do you mess up
putting in a head-pipe gasket? One friend said that I need to go to a copper
gasket. Anybody with a similar experience?

Second frustration: it looks like my header is leaking at the base
(head-pipe side) where the four tubes are welded together. I took it in to
the welder who fixed it the first time and he said that he'd had a hard time
fixing the header the first time and with a second leak 500 miles later he
suggested I save my money and just buy a new header. What are people's
experiences with the after-market headers -- do they last, or am I going to
be sending my welder's children through college?

Nathaniel
p.s. Thanks warning me about the jack.

From sandhoff at csus.edu  Tue Nov 20 14:29:46 2007
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 13:29:46 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] ultimate cheapo ricer upgrade......
In-Reply-To: <4742C6D4.4030508@RWMann.com>
References: <1195547609.47429bd9c7473@webmail.telus.net>
Message-ID: <4742E14A.3193.877907@localhost>

> all this stopping and sticking means a need for way, way more raw power:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300163790097

DANG! Twenty bucks for a sheet of DECALS? Plus five bucks to mail em??

The last time I ordered some Nismo goodies, they included a sheet of these
stickers FOR FREE with the order - and I don't think my entire order was
over $20...

-- John
     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA

From RWM at RWMann.com  Tue Nov 20 14:57:29 2007
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:57:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] ultimate cheapo ricer upgrade......
In-Reply-To: <4742E14A.3193.877907@localhost>
References: <1195547609.47429bd9c7473@webmail.telus.net>
	<4742E14A.3193.877907@localhost>
Message-ID: <47435849.9060301@RWMann.com>

John F Sandhoff wrote:

>>all this stopping and sticking means a need for way, way more raw power:
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300163790097
>>    
>>
>
>DANG! Twenty bucks for a sheet of DECALS? Plus five bucks to mail em??
>
>The last time I ordered some Nismo goodies, they included a sheet of these
>stickers FOR FREE with the order - and I don't think my entire order was
>over $20...
>
>-- John
>     John F Sandhoff   sandhoff at csus.edu   Sacramento, CA
>  
>


Well sure, John, but these are much higher power "JDM' knock-off 
decals....   ;-)  

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

- Bob

From matthews517 at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 20 16:08:15 2007
From: matthews517 at earthlink.net (Matthew A. Smith)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:08:15 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
In-Reply-To: <43118.99792.qm@web53501.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1IucCT-0005Qx-Gi@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I carry a very small, light floor jack. I don't trust the "dent maker" ones.
The extra weight is minimal, since it is aluminum. So it doesn't damage my
quarter panel, I keep it wrapped in a sheet of bubble wrap, down the fender
well beside the spare. 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+matthews517=earthlink.net at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Patti Dwinell
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:06 PM
To: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com; nmleeds at mindspring.com
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank

From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Nov 20 17:04:18 2007
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:04:18 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
In-Reply-To: <E1IucCT-0005Qx-Gi@elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <8C9F9E932595830-ED0-58C2@webmail-da14.sysops.aol.com>

 Matthew,
I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you have a pic or link to where to get one?
Thanks
Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank










I carry a very small, light floor jack. I don't trust the "dent maker" ones.
The extra weight is minimal, since it is aluminum. So it doesn't damage my
quarter panel, I keep it wrapped in a sheet of bubble wrap, down the fender
well beside the spare. 

-



 


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From stebharvey at ameritech.net  Tue Nov 20 17:40:58 2007
From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:40:58 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Life is a matter of minutes
In-Reply-To: <20071119.233214.3432.0@webmail22.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <005a01c82bd7$2f508bf0$0574fea9@steb1>

I read the comments page on the article concerning the accident. The
comments concerning the new steel cable dividers being installed is what
caught my eye. Divider cables are being installed on all divided
highways in Wisconsin in the future and many people are concerned about
their effectiveness and death sentence to any motorcycle rider who comes
close. 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+stebharvey=ameritech.net at autox.team.net
] On Behalf Of gregs672liter at netzero.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:32 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Life is a matter of minutes

Hi list, guess what I got tangled up in after work?  Fortunately I was
driving
my 2000 Celica GTS, not the Roadster...
http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/updates/story/207722.html
Was there about 2 minutes after it happened, could not believe what I
saw.  My
car was one of the "five damaged by debris in the deadly crash" as I ran
over
huge pieces of metal at 60 miles an hour, destroying my right front tire
and
wheel, bending two cross members up front under the car and breaking the
front
airdam.  Got the car stopped a ways down the road.  Walked past the semi
truck
which was missing all of its front suspension and was pouring fuel out
of its
punctured tanks.  Next to the truck was the cylinder head from the Golf,
about
75 yards or more away from the car.  Walked past the Golf and was glad I
did
not look in, as the entire front of the car was gone, the transmission
sitting
in the west bound lanes on the other side of the freeway, with pieces of
car
scattered all over.  My mind noted the head gasket sitting on the
ground.  Had
to leave my car on the side of the road, and Tammy my girl friend came
and
picked me up a couple hours later.  My car is home now after being towed
to
me, appearing quite repairable and without damage to major things like
the
engine or trans, though I am not happy about the frame.  I'm waiting on
insurance info from the state patrol so I can contact the drivers
provider and
get my car inspected, as I only have liability on the Celica.
Here's the deal... When I left work a few minutes earlier, I forgot to
clock
out.  Because of this it required that I drive out of the parking lot,
go back
to the ER employee entrance door, go inside and swipe my card... about 2
minutes... just enough time for me to avoid the accident 10 minutes
later.
Funny how life works.
Be safe my friends.  Don't "run out of talent" as my race driver friend
Carl
says, and watch for those who are.
Greg Burrows
'67 2000 (safely in the garage next to the wounded Celica)
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From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Tue Nov 20 17:45:44 2007
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:45:44 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Header Frustration - ideas?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOEEGANIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOEEGANIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <47437FB8.1040500@hornesystemstx.com>

If the flanges aren't flat on the collector and header pipe it is 
possible for exhaust gasses to eat up a collector gasket in short order. 
Make sure both surfaces are flat and parallel. Tighten down the bolts a 
little at a time so that the pipe and header will come into alignment 
and not be crooked. I've never tried a copper gasket, but it seems as if 
it would take more tightening to get it to seal, which could distort the 
header and pipe flanges if they are not thick enough to take the extra 
stress.

I bought a header for my 1600 years ago from one of our vendors. Once I 
got it installed I noticed the smell of exhaust inside the car, so I 
went back to the shop that put the header and the rest of the exhaust 
system onto the car. He found that there was a small hole in the middle 
of where the 4 collector pipes came together. The easiest way for him to 
repair it was to cut off part of the collector so he could weld from the 
ends of the pipes, rather than trying to get in from the front. After 
the repair he welded the collector back on and it hasn't leaked since. 
That was in the early 90s.

Peace
Pat

Thusly spake Nathaniel Leeds:
> I'm having a bunch of frustration with my header.
>
> First frustration: it keeps eating the head-pipe gasket. I've now blown two
> apart in 500 miles. Now I'm not a master mechanic but how do you mess up
> putting in a head-pipe gasket? One friend said that I need to go to a copper
> gasket. Anybody with a similar experience?
>
> Second frustration: it looks like my header is leaking at the base
> (head-pipe side) where the four tubes are welded together. I took it in to
> the welder who fixed it the first time and he said that he'd had a hard time
> fixing the header the first time and with a second leak 500 miles later he
> suggested I save my money and just buy a new header. What are people's
> experiences with the after-market headers -- do they last, or am I going to
> be sending my welder's children through college?
>
> Nathaniel
> p.s. Thanks warning me about the jack.
> ________________________________________
>
> roadsters at hornesystemstx.com
>
> Datsun-roadsters mailing list
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters
>
>
>   


-- 
Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems 
(512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
www.hornesystemstx.com
-- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Tue Nov 20 17:47:13 2007
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:47:13 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Header Frustration - ideas?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOEEGANIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOEEGANIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <47438011.6040705@hornesystemstx.com>

If the flanges aren't flat on the collector and header pipe it is 
possible for exhaust gasses to eat up a collector gasket in short order. 
Make sure both surfaces are flat and parallel. Tighten down the bolts a 
little at a time so that the pipe and header will come into alignment 
and not be crooked. I've never tried a copper gasket, but it seems as if 
it would take more tightening to get it to seal, which could distort the 
header and pipe flanges if they are not thick enough to take the extra 
stress.

I bought a header for my 1600 years ago from one of our vendors. Once I 
got it installed I noticed the smell of exhaust inside the car, so I 
went back to the shop that put the header and the rest of the exhaust 
system onto the car. He found that there was a small hole in the middle 
of where the 4 collector pipes came together. The easiest way for him to 
repair it was to cut off part of the collector so he could weld from the 
ends of the pipes, rather than trying to get in from the front. After 
the repair he welded the collector back on and it hasn't leaked since. 
That was in the early 90s.

Peace
Pat

Thusly spake Nathaniel Leeds:
> I'm having a bunch of frustration with my header.
>
> First frustration: it keeps eating the head-pipe gasket. I've now blown two
> apart in 500 miles. Now I'm not a master mechanic but how do you mess up
> putting in a head-pipe gasket? One friend said that I need to go to a copper
> gasket. Anybody with a similar experience?
>
> Second frustration: it looks like my header is leaking at the base
> (head-pipe side) where the four tubes are welded together. I took it in to
> the welder who fixed it the first time and he said that he'd had a hard time
> fixing the header the first time and with a second leak 500 miles later he
> suggested I save my money and just buy a new header. What are people's
> experiences with the after-market headers -- do they last, or am I going to
> be sending my welder's children through college?
>
> Nathaniel
> p.s. Thanks warning me about the jack.
> ________________________________________
>
> roadsters at hornesystemstx.com
>
> Datsun-roadsters mailing list
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters
>
>
>   


-- 
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(512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
www.hornesystemstx.com
-- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --

From tputland at charter.net  Tue Nov 20 18:05:13 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:05:13 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
In-Reply-To: <8C9F9E932595830-ED0-58C2@webmail-da14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20071120200513.1C4AG.276024.root@fepweb10>

Post this answer to the list please. 

Thanks

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote: 

=============
 Matthew,
I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you have a pic or link to where to get one?
Thanks
Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 3:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank










I carry a very small, light floor jack. I don't trust the "dent maker" ones.
The extra weight is minimal, since it is aluminum. So it doesn't damage my
quarter panel, I keep it wrapped in a sheet of bubble wrap, down the fender
well beside the spare. 

-

From steve at olsonarchitect.com  Tue Nov 20 18:13:37 2007
From: steve at olsonarchitect.com (Stephen Wan)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:13:37 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Header Frustration - ideas?
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOEEGANIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <075201c82bdb$bed966d0$7100a8c0@Stephen>

I had the same problem where the flanges don't meet up parallel.
I burned trough a few fiber gaskets before I doubled up on the aluminum 
ringed gaskets and it's held for a year.
If that fails, the next step would be to use the copper.

Steve
70' 1600
still waiting for a tranny swap. 

From mark at dealermats.com  Tue Nov 20 18:24:16 2007
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:24:16 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks
References: <20071120200513.1C4AG.276024.root@fepweb10>
Message-ID: <002701c82bdd$3c2bf660$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>

I just grabbed a scissors type jack from the junkyard,  all cars since about 
1983 have them.  I grabbed one from a Sentra from what I remember, because 
the lug wrench was the same, and had a nice pouch.  Turn it sideways in one 
of the trunk wells and hand crank it to press a little and it won't move. 
If you carry a spare tire, Saab and BMW have thiers packaged in a round 
block of foam the fits inside the rim.


Mark

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: <matthews517 at earthlink.net>; <ljordan704 at netscape.net>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank


> Post this answer to the list please.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
>
> ---- ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:
>
> =============
> Matthew,
> I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you have a 
> pic or link to where to get one?
> Thanks
> Linda
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 3:08 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I carry a very small, light floor jack. I don't trust the "dent maker" 
> ones.
> The extra weight is minimal, since it is aluminum. So it doesn't damage my
> quarter panel, I keep it wrapped in a sheet of bubble wrap, down the 
> fender
> well beside the spare.
>
> -
> ________________________________________
>
> mark at dealermats.com
>
> Datsun-roadsters mailing list
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters

From graemes at internode.on.net  Tue Nov 20 18:29:28 2007
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:59:28 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Header Frustration - ideas?
In-Reply-To: <075201c82bdb$bed966d0$7100a8c0@Stephen>
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOEEGANIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
	<075201c82bdb$bed966d0$7100a8c0@Stephen>
Message-ID: <000901c82bdd$f7dece00$426fa8c0@desktop>

Excluding weld problems, would not a flexible joint between the header and
the tailpipe solve alignment problems?
Trying to get two flat flanges on rigid pipes to align and seal is not easy.
Perhaps that is why the factory had thart weird "V" clamp joint, it will
tolerate some degree of misalignment.
The head flange would need to be skimmed to ensure it is dead flat.
Also I have noticed that the thickness of some head flanges is too different
to that of the alloy inlet manifold.
You may need to re-check that the manifold retainers can clamp onto the two
manifolds positively, where they share the same fastener.
Any lack of clamping at that point and the gasket will blow out quick smart.

I had the same problem where the flanges don't meet up parallel.
I burned trough a few fiber gaskets before I doubled up on the aluminum
ringed gaskets and it's held for a year.
If that fails, the next step would be to use the copper.

Steve
70' 1600
still waiting for a tranny swap. 

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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Tue Nov 20 18:42:12 2007
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:42:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks
In-Reply-To: <002701c82bdd$3c2bf660$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>
References: <20071120200513.1C4AG.276024.root@fepweb10>
	<002701c82bdd$3c2bf660$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>
Message-ID: <8C9F9F6DF2B2E78-3A8-155F@webmail-da05.sysops.aol.com>

 I thought scissor jacks were the worst. Don't think I would want to use one really. I like the mini floor jack idea. Maybe Summit has one. they have everything else

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Dent <mark at dealermats.com>
To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; matthews517 at earthlink.net; ljordan704 at netscape.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks









I just grabbed a scissors type jack from the junkyard,  all cars since about 
1983 have them.  I grabbed one from a Sentra from what I remember, because 
the lug wrench was the same, and had a nice pouch.  Turn it sideways in one 
of the trunk wells and hand crank it to press a little and it won't move. 
If you carry a spare tire, Saab and BMW have thiers packaged in a round 
block of foam the fits inside the rim.?
?


Mark?
?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>?

To: <matthews517 at earthlink.net>; <ljordan704 at netscape.net>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>?

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:05 PM?

Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank?
?


> Post this answer to the list please.?

>?

> Thanks?

>?

> Tim?

> Belleville, WI.?

> '70 SPL AND SRL?

> Still clueless but always learning?

>?

> ---- ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:?

>?

> =============?

> Matthew,?

> I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you have a 
> pic or link to where to get one??

> Thanks?

> Linda?

>?

>?

>?

>?

>?

>?

>?

> -----Original Message-----?

> From: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>?

> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net?

> Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 3:08 pm?

> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank?

>?

>?

>?

>?

>?

>?

>?

>?

>?

>?

> I carry a very small, light floor jack. I don't trust the "dent maker" 
> ones.?

> The extra weight is minimal, since it is aluminum. So it doesn't damage my?

> quarter panel, I keep it wrapped in a sheet of bubble wrap, down the 
> fender?

> well beside the spare.?

>?

> -?

> ________________________________________?

>?

> mark at dealermats.com?

>?

> Datsun-roadsters mailing list?

>?

> http://www.team.net/archive?

>?

> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters?

> ?



 


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From aultgc at jorsm.com  Tue Nov 20 19:24:15 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:24:15 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Evil-L - What to do?
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOKEFMNIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <004501c82be5$9d805e80$0da0aa42@gaxp1>

Nathaniel,

I'd check out 311s.org, as I think they have a technical discussion of the 
plusses and minuses of cutting it off.  I seem to recall that all one loses 
is the ability to support the cam gear and chain when removing the head.  If 
one is careful, that should not be a great disadvantage.  But, I am not 
completely sure on this point, and recommend you consult available 
resources.

I would not leave it in place.  Once bent and otherwise damaged, it is 
likely weakened.  The consequences of its failure are too grave to risk.  If 
it were my engine, I'd replace it with a new one, because I do value the 
ability to hang the cam gear on the bracket.

You could also remove it, bend it or have it bent back to shape, reinforce 
it with weld metal at the weak spot(s), and have it annealed (heat treated). 
The problem there is, you need ot know the proper temperature, hold-time and 
cool-down rate for the metal involved.  It's probalby just a mild steel, but 
I don't know, and you may not be able to find out.  Sounds too hard to me, 
but possible, particularly if you have access to someone who knows how. 
(Like my local mechanic who is a great welder, skilled with shielded metal 
arc, gas metal arc and gas tungsten arc, and has all the equipment.  Great 
guy to know if you need to have a cam cover welded.)

According to something I read on Rallye's site years ago, the "L" is 
susceptible to long-term fatigue failure from vibration, and should be 
magnetic-particle examined (magnafluxed) whenever the chains are changed.

There are others on the list who know more about this than I do.  Hope we 
hear form them, also.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathaniel Leeds" <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Evil-L - What to do?


> Everyone,
>
> Thanks for helping me trouble shoot my U20 death-rattle. Someone, I'm not
> naming names, put in the tensioner gasket upside down, completely blocking
> the oil hole.
>
> Fortunately I caught the problem before the rattling chain tore off the
> evil-l. But not before it took some chunks of metal out of it and bent it
> about 30-degrees from 12 o'clock.  Now the question, what to do?
>
> Do I:
>
> 1) Bend old evil back into place.
> 2) Saw it off.
> 3) Buy a new one.
> 4) Assume that now that I've fixed my chain tension problem that the 
> bracket
> will stay where it is.
>
> Nathaniel Leeds
> U20 - '69
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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>
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From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Tue Nov 20 19:25:10 2007
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:25:10 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: OT: Humour - 0 to 200 in less than 6 seconds!!
Message-ID: <004d01c82be5$bdf033c0$4f2fcf18@Daryl>

  MISSING MAN ALERT!!!

  Rick was in trouble.  He forgot his wedding anniversary.  His wife was
really angry. She told him, "Tomorrow morning, I expect to find a gift in the
driveway that goes from 0 to 200 in less than 6 seconds AND IT BETTER BE
THERE!!"

  The next morning Rick got up early and left for work.   When his wife woke
up she looked out the window and sure enough there was a box gift-wrapped in
the middle of the driveway. Confused by the size his wife put on her robe and
ran out to the driveway and brought the box back in the house.  She opened it
and found a brand new bathroom scale.

  Rick has been missing since Friday.

From aultgc at jorsm.com  Tue Nov 20 19:32:56 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:32:56 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOAEFNNIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
	<4742FB70.400@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <005101c82be6$d430cea0$0da0aa42@gaxp1>

I'm with Pat.  As long as one is careful about how the car sits when you 
lift it, the jack works fine.  Must be on level ground, though, as the car 
does like to rotate about the jack when both wheels clear the ground.

Have you tried the supplier list?  Rallye, Datsunparts, Sports Imports, Mike 
Kerr?  Others I don't know?  Or, just ask the list.  There must be some of 
these things lying around?

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Horne" <roadsters at hornesystemstx.com>
To: "Nathaniel Leeds" <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank


> The general consensus is that the factory jacks are for show only and
> not for actual use. They are very good at digging into the doors when
> the car decides to move. Having said that, I have used mine several
> times without any problems. YMMV.
>
> Peace,
> Pat
>
> Thusly spake Nathaniel Leeds:
>> I have an original emergency jack -- but no crank. Has anyone had any 
>> luck
>> getting these cranks from junk yards, or improvising something with a 
>> socket
>> wrench?
>>
>> N
>> ________________________________________
>>
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>>
>
>
> -- 
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> (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001
> Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
> www.hornesystemstx.com
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From dgstoll at verizon.net  Tue Nov 20 19:34:57 2007
From: dgstoll at verizon.net (Dave Stoll)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:34:57 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks
References: <20071120200513.1C4AG.276024.root@fepweb10>
	<002701c82bdd$3c2bf660$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>
	<8C9F9F6DF2B2E78-3A8-155F@webmail-da05.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <003001c82be7$1c5e21f0$2e01a8c0@default>

any jack can get dangerous if you don't block the wheels right...as when 
your little floor jack sinks into the dirt along the highway...
daveS

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
To: <mark at dealermats.com>; <tputland at charter.net>; 
<matthews517 at earthlink.net>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks


> I thought scissor jacks were the worst. Don't think I would want to use 
> one really. I like the mini floor jack idea. Maybe Summit has one. they 
> have everything else
>
> Linda

From aultgc at jorsm.com  Tue Nov 20 19:58:05 2007
From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 20:58:05 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Header Frustration - ideas?
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOEEGANIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <007a01c82bea$5766b6b0$0da0aa42@gaxp1>

Nathaniel,

Other than a leak when I didn't get the three bolts holding the 
collector-to-head pipe together tightened down reasonably uniformly, no 
problems.

If the header is corroded, you may not be able to weld it successfully.

Gary Ault

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathaniel Leeds" <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 2:09 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Header Frustration - ideas?


> I'm having a bunch of frustration with my header.
>
> First frustration: it keeps eating the head-pipe gasket. I've now blown 
> two
> apart in 500 miles. Now I'm not a master mechanic but how do you mess up
> putting in a head-pipe gasket? One friend said that I need to go to a 
> copper
> gasket. Anybody with a similar experience?
>
> Second frustration: it looks like my header is leaking at the base
> (head-pipe side) where the four tubes are welded together. I took it in to
> the welder who fixed it the first time and he said that he'd had a hard 
> time
> fixing the header the first time and with a second leak 500 miles later he
> suggested I save my money and just buy a new header. What are people's
> experiences with the after-market headers -- do they last, or am I going 
> to
> be sending my welder's children through college?
>
> Nathaniel
> p.s. Thanks warning me about the jack.
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
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From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Tue Nov 20 20:40:14 2007
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:40:14 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks
In-Reply-To: <8C9F9F6DF2B2E78-3A8-155F@webmail-da05.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <002601c82bf0$3d10b670$6501a8c0@xp>

The only problem I've had w/ scissor jacks is that they take forever to jack
up. Other than that, they work fine as long as they're on a solid surface
and not cocked.

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of ljordan704 at netscape.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:42 PM
To: mark at dealermats.com; tputland at charter.net; matthews517 at earthlink.net;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks


 I thought scissor jacks were the worst. Don't think I would want to use one
really. I like the mini floor jack idea. Maybe Summit has one. they have
everything else

Linda


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Dent <mark at dealermats.com>
To: Tim <tputland at charter.net>; matthews517 at earthlink.net;
ljordan704 at netscape.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks


I just grabbed a scissors type jack from the junkyard,  all cars since about

1983 have them.  I grabbed one from a Sentra from what I remember, because
the lug wrench was the same, and had a nice pouch.  Turn it sideways in one
of the trunk wells and hand crank it to press a little and it won't move.
If you carry a spare tire, Saab and BMW have thiers packaged in a round
block of foam the fits inside the rim.?
?


Mark?
?


> ---- ljordan704 at netscape.net wrote:?

>?

> =============?

> Matthew,?

> I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you have
> a pic or link to where to get one??

> Thanks?

> Linda?



> -----Original Message-----

> From: Matthew A. Smith <matthews517 at earthlink.net>
> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Sent: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 3:08 pm
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank


I carry a very small, light floor jack. I don't trust the "dent maker" ones.
The extra weight is minimal, since it is aluminum. So it doesn't damage my
quarter panel, I keep it wrapped in a sheet of bubble wrap, down the fender
well beside the spare.

From drlsmith at dccnet.com  Tue Nov 20 20:45:14 2007
From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:45:14 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Header Frustration - ideas?
References: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOEEGANIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <00a601c82bf0$ed99e390$4f2fcf18@Daryl>

The headers are not that expensive, and the newer ones seem quite sturdy and 
well made.
For my money I'd get a new, ceramic coated header, and a flex pipe.

Daryl

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathaniel Leeds" <nmleeds at mindspring.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:09 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Header Frustration - ideas?


> I'm having a bunch of frustration with my header.
>
> First frustration: it keeps eating the head-pipe gasket. I've now blown 
> two
> apart in 500 miles. Now I'm not a master mechanic but how do you mess up
> putting in a head-pipe gasket? One friend said that I need to go to a 
> copper
> gasket. Anybody with a similar experience?
>
> Second frustration: it looks like my header is leaking at the base
> (head-pipe side) where the four tubes are welded together. I took it in to
> the welder who fixed it the first time and he said that he'd had a hard 
> time
> fixing the header the first time and with a second leak 500 miles later he
> suggested I save my money and just buy a new header. What are people's
> experiences with the after-market headers -- do they last, or am I going 
> to
> be sending my welder's children through college?
>
> Nathaniel
> p.s. Thanks warning me about the jack.
> ________________________________________
>
> drlsmith at dccnet.com
>
> Datsun-roadsters mailing list
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters 

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Tue Nov 20 20:52:42 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (Nathaniel Leeds)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:52:42 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks
In-Reply-To: <003001c82be7$1c5e21f0$2e01a8c0@default>
Message-ID: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOIEGFNIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>

>From personal experience I second this comment about the floor jacks. I'm
not sure about everybody else's floor jack, but mine is designed to roll
forward as it lifts--great in the garage, bad in the mud and snow. For an
emergency jack my preference is for something that lifts straight up.  Of
course this is the advice from a guy who was about to use the original
Datsun jack as his emergency jack.

Nathaniel

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+nmleeds=mindspring.com at autox.team.net]O
n Behalf Of Dave Stoll
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 6:35 PM
To: ljordan704 at netscape.net; mark at dealermats.com; tputland at charter.net;
matthews517 at earthlink.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks


any jack can get dangerous if you don't block the wheels right...as when
your little floor jack sinks into the dirt along the highway...
daveS

----- Original Message -----
From: <ljordan704 at netscape.net>
To: <mark at dealermats.com>; <tputland at charter.net>;
<matthews517 at earthlink.net>; <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks


> I thought scissor jacks were the worst. Don't think I would want to use
> one really. I like the mini floor jack idea. Maybe Summit has one. they
> have everything else
>
> Linda
________________________________________

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From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue Nov 20 21:12:32 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:12:32 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Evil-L - What to do?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOKEFMNIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <000001c82bf4$c02601b0$6600a8c0@chrissy>

Great that you got it fixed, the gasket was what I was betting on.

As far as the "L",
1. You could gently bend it back, but if there is any chance of metal
fatigue or cracking, I would cut it off
2. If you cut it, I would pack the immediate area with oily rags to catch
the chips, a cut off wheel may make less chips than a saw.
3. If it really looks OK where it is, leave it

BTW, do you have the oil tube in the oil filter?  If not, go to the local
Nissan, order part # 15214-W1100, less than $5.oo.  It's going to be time
for an oil change soon.


Everyone,

Thanks for helping me trouble shoot my U20 death-rattle. Someone, I'm not
naming names, put in the tensioner gasket upside down, completely blocking
the oil hole.

Fortunately I caught the problem before the rattling chain tore off the
evil-l. But not before it took some chunks of metal out of it and bent it
about 30-degrees from 12 o'clock.  Now the question, what to do?

Do I:

1) Bend old evil back into place.
2) Saw it off.
3) Buy a new one.
4) Assume that now that I've fixed my chain tension problem that the bracket
will stay where it is.

Nathaniel Leeds
U20 - '69

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue Nov 20 21:18:54 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:18:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Tonneau Cover - Question Answered
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0711200754v138084cyfcf26a5fa923b107@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000101c82bf5$a1cbd090$6600a8c0@chrissy>

I have a high windshield tonneau, tried to put it on a 69, was too narrow
and too short.  Generally, if it is vinyl, they shrink in both directions.
Popular theory is let them sit in the sun all day, get two people, try to
stretch it onto the car, leave in the sun to continue stretching.
New tonneaus are avail for $150.00 vinyl, $260 Stayfast, not a half bad
price, considering 40 yr old originals get over $100.00 regularly on Ebay.
It may be worth REbaying the one you have, put the $$ toward a new one.
That's my plan.

Dave



Well not that I got my question answered about the proper fit for a Tonneau
Cover.  Does anyone need a Tonneau Cover for a high Windshield ('68)
Roadster? The head rest are patched over, I will fix the seam on the patch
job that came apart.

I will let this go cheap and I will pick up another one that fits.. If
anyone is interested give me a shout.

~Chris


-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlday...I'm married to the first one.

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue Nov 20 21:47:20 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:47:20 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Header Frustration - ideas?
In-Reply-To: <NHEGJNGDLBEGFINFLIFOEEGANIAA.nmleeds@mindspring.com>
Message-ID: <001301c82bf9$9ad6ab30$6600a8c0@chrissy>

Most headers are thin to start with, and way too thin to weld after they
rust.  I've bought 2 from Dean, 1 1600 painted and 1 2000 powder coated .
Used the flex pipe on the 2000 along with the super thick gaskets, no leaks
rattles or problems, couple thousand miles including a bit of rough dirt
road silliness.  The 1600 header I put on last week fit great, missed the
exhaust pipe by about 3/4 inch vertically, header too high..  I wasn't using
the flexpipe on this one, so between a floor jack, jack stand and a 2000
pound car, I "adjusted" the head pipe upward a bit, fit great.  If I was
able to loosen the joint to the second pipe, I probably could have rotated
it into alignment.
Reason the 1600 got a header, the original manifold was rusting apart in
about 4 places.  Haven't driven it on the road yet, but should be fine. You
should plan on getting a forklift starter to make life easier.

-----Original Message-----

I'm having a bunch of frustration with my header.

First frustration: it keeps eating the head-pipe gasket. I've now blown two
apart in 500 miles. Now I'm not a master mechanic but how do you mess up
putting in a head-pipe gasket? One friend said that I need to go to a copper
gasket. Anybody with a similar experience?

Second frustration: it looks like my header is leaking at the base
(head-pipe side) where the four tubes are welded together. I took it in to
the welder who fixed it the first time and he said that he'd had a hard time
fixing the header the first time and with a second leak 500 miles later he
suggested I save my money and just buy a new header. What are people's
experiences with the after-market headers -- do they last, or am I going to
be sending my welder's children through college?

Nathaniel
p.s. Thanks warning me about the jack.

From daveandlindab at comcast.net  Tue Nov 20 21:58:29 2007
From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:58:29 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks
In-Reply-To: <002701c82bdd$3c2bf660$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>
Message-ID: <001401c82bfb$2988dc80$6600a8c0@chrissy>

I don't have a spare or a jack in the car, but have a scissor type FOR the
car that will go in if I get a spare.  :)  Look for one with a flat top,
some have strange shaped tops meant to fit into the chassis of the intended
car and get the handle that matches.  Sometimes you can find one that fits
inside the spare wheel.

The scissor type are great, but also cary a 12x12 or 12" round  piece of 3/4
plywood under the spare to put under the jack on a soft shoulder and 2 wheel
chocks.  The original jack mount clips are great to hold The Club, or a
small sledge hammer.  I do carry the Club and sledge.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Dent [mailto:mark at dealermats.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:24 PM
To: Tim; matthews517 at earthlink.net; ljordan704 at netscape.net;
datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks


I just grabbed a scissors type jack from the junkyard,  all cars since about

1983 have them.  I grabbed one from a Sentra from what I remember, because
the lug wrench was the same, and had a nice pouch.  Turn it sideways in one
of the trunk wells and hand crank it to press a little and it won't move.
If you carry a spare tire, Saab and BMW have thiers packaged in a round
block of foam the fits inside the rim.


Mark

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 20 22:36:30 2007
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:36:30 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
References: <8C9F9E932595830-ED0-58C2@webmail-da14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <004b01c82c00$7a482630$800101df@garage.local>

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=TJI%2DT84801&N=700+115&autoview=sku

should fit in the trunk without any problem

Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank


> Matthew,
> I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you have a 
> pic or link to where to get one?
> Thanks
> Linda

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Tue Nov 20 22:44:14 2007
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 05:44:14 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Thanks
Message-ID: <20071120.214414.29752.2@webmail01.vgs.untd.com>

Thanks to all well-wishers regarding my close call... glad I was able to
relate it, and hopefully help keep us all "aware"!
Greg Burrows

From konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com  Tue Nov 20 22:53:34 2007
From: konadave1 at hawaii.rr.com (David R. Conrad)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:53:34 -1000
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
In-Reply-To: <004b01c82c00$7a482630$800101df@garage.local>
Message-ID: <18E0640C-97F6-11DC-875A-000A27DC00A0@hawaii.rr.com>

Oliver:

You omitted the "wink" emoticon.  ;-)


On Tuesday, November 20, 2007, at 07:36 PM, Oliver wrote:

> http://store.summitracing.com/ 
> partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=TJI%2DT84801&N=700+115&autoview=sku
>
> should fit in the trunk without any problem
>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
>
>
>> Matthew,
>> I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you  
>> have a
>> pic or link to where to get one?
>> Thanks
>> Linda

From oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 21 00:02:09 2007
From: oscilloscope500 at yahoo.com (Matthew Cox)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 23:02:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating Question Part II
Message-ID: <445329.29262.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Helo everybody!  I have another question about my little overheating problem. First of all, thanks to everyone who sent replies to my last email about this. I really appreciate all of the ideas! 
   
  I am going to past my original email here so that everyone is up to speed:
   
  _____________________________________________________________
   
  Hey guys!  Quick question for you all.  My car has rapidly overheated (in 3-4 minutes) the past couple of times I have driven it. The temp gauge shoots up to about 220 and then I shut it off because, well... I don't want to ruin it. 
   
  I'm trying to track down the source. Water/Antifreeze is full and looks green and clean (no froth). Oil level is good. I pulled the top hose off of the radiator and ran the car up to 200 degrees at which point the thermostat opened and water came out. That's pretty much it. From what I've done I assume that the thermostat and water pump work (although 200 degrees is high for it to open I think). 
   
  Where should I look next? I have been planning on adding a row to the radiator, so I can do this, but I know that this isn't the source of this rapid overhating. Could the radiator be plugged somehow? Is there anything else I should look for? I know that these are pretty simple systems, so it could only be so many things...
   
  Thanks for the help!
   
  Matthew...
  ___________________________________________________________
   
  A bunch of people thought it might be a blown head gasket. Well, I finally got the compression tester I ordered three weeks ago on ebay (thanks for nothing, lazy ebay dude) and I ran a test and came back with 165 on 1 (from front of car), 175 on 2, 158ish on 3, and 170 on 4. Is this pretty normal? I guess I can cross head gasket off my list?
   
  Next, I pulled off the radiator and ran water through it. It seemed to flow fine from what I can tell, but it was just a hose I was using. I plan on redoing the radiator, but for now it doesn't seem to be a big issue.
   
  Then, I ran water through the block and the water looked pretty clean, was a nice light green color, and flowed smoothly.
   
  Next, I pulled off the radiator tower and got at the thermostat. It is a 180 deg thermostat, which I will replace with a 160 one. I boiled it and it started to open at 180 and was full open at about 200-205. 
   
  Finally, I took off the fan belt and spun the water pump by hand and it seemed to move water through it. Mind you, I had most of the water out of the engine by now, but when I spun it I would get a corresponding trickle.
   
  Soooo... That is where I am now. I haven't put everything together yet, but since I didn't really find anything "wrong,"  I suspect that I haven't solved the problem. Should I put everything together again and see what happens? Does anyone have any other ideas on what could be causing the overheating?
   
  Thanks again for all of your help!!!
   
  Matthew...
    

       
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From graemes at internode.on.net  Wed Nov 21 00:41:56 2007
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 18:11:56 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating Question Part II
In-Reply-To: <445329.29262.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <445329.29262.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002101c82c12$00320250$426fa8c0@desktop>

   A bunch of people thought it might be a blown head gasket. Well, I
finally got the compression tester I ordered three weeks ago on ebay (thanks
for nothing, lazy ebay dude) and I ran a test and came back with 165 on 1
(from front of car), 175 on 2, 158ish on 3, and 170 on 4. Is this pretty
normal? I guess I can cross head gasket off my list?
 
!!Compression figs. are a wee bit wonky.
For a performance/sports car, ideally the lowest reading should be at least
90% of the highest.
i.e. 0.9 x 175 = 157 so it IMO it is only just acceptable.
If you can, do a LEAKDOWN test. 
That will tell you if any cylinder is farting into:-
1. another cylinder,
2. inlet,
3. outlet,
4. atmosphere,
5. water jacket or, shudder,
6. oil passage.
   
  Next, I pulled off the radiator and ran water through it. It seemed to
flow fine from what I can tell, but it was just a hose I was using. I plan
on redoing the radiator, but for now it doesn't seem to be a big issue.

!!If you have it out, may as well get a Shop to take off the tanks and give
it a good cleanout/onceover.
Then they have to give you a warranty!
   
  Then, I ran water through the block and the water looked pretty clean, was
a nice light green color, and flowed smoothly.

!!Sounds good.
   
  Next, I pulled off the radiator tower and got at the thermostat. It is a
180 deg thermostat, which I will replace with a 160 one. I boiled it and it
started to open at 180 and was full open at about 200-205.
 
!!Cheap insurance to replace it.
When you test it, it should be suspended in the water, not resting on the
bottom of the container ;)
   
  Finally, I took off the fan belt and spun the water pump by hand and it
seemed to move water through it. Mind you, I had most of the water out of
the engine by now, but when I spun it I would get a corresponding trickle.

!!Now is the time to remove that pump and make sure it is OK. 
Not too expensive to replace it if you have any doubts about it.
   
  Soooo... That is where I am now. I haven't put everything together yet,
but since I didn't really find anything "wrong,"  I suspect that I haven't
solved the problem. Should I put everything together again and see what
happens? Does anyone have any other ideas on what could be causing the
overheating?
   
  Thanks again for all of your help!!!
   
  Matthew...
    
!!Do the leakdown test before spending any money on anything else.
Pending the results, it will guide you to what you need to do next.


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From sandhoff at csus.edu  Wed Nov 21 01:35:47 2007
From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:35:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating Question Part II
In-Reply-To: <445329.29262.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <445329.29262.qm@web34303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0711210032040.19109@netserv.csus.edu>

>  My car has rapidly overheated (in 3-4 minutes) the past couple
> of times I have driven it...

I still say head gasket. If you have the car together and running,
make a deal with your local smog shop. Offer them a few bucks to
take their tailpipe wand and 'sniff' the open radiator cap for
signs of hydrocarbons (i.e. exhaust gases). If it sniffs clean
then time to look elsewhere, and my apologies for the misdiagnosis.

-- John
     John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA

From James at jdfogg.com  Wed Nov 21 06:27:52 2007
From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:27:52 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating Question Part II
Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2570F7@sbs.jdfogg.com>

> Helo everybody!  I have another question about my little
> overheating problem. First of all, thanks to everyone who
> sent replies to my last email about this. I really appreciate
> all of the ideas!


When I repaired cars for a living (long time ago) I saw a few water
pumps that would be fine cold, but when the impeller heated up it would
slip on its shaft. I wouldn't trust the pump from your test. The usual,
but imperfect, test is to run the engine to full temp with the radiator
tank cap open and watch the flow into the top tank. It confirms pump and
thermostat functions. I've seen some clear plastic pipes inserted in
radiator lines for this purpose too (Prestone made such items once).

Otherwise, I'd still consider the head gasket. Compression doesn't tell
you much for a leak, you need to perform a leakdown test. Buy or fashion
an adapter that will screw into a plug port and allow you to connect an
air line and gauge. Include a shutoff valve at the air hose connection.
Place your chosen piston at or near bottom dead center and pump the
cylinder up with air pressure equal to 75% of your compression test
numbers (sometimes the filling will cause the piston to move to bdc).
Close the valve and watch the air pressure for a while. It shouldn't
lose much in a minute's time. If your piston isn't near bdc it can alter
the indicated bleed rate (since there's a lot less air to work with in
the cylinder) or open a valve.

Another concern is that a cylinder head or exhaust passage has corroded
or cracked and is leaking into the water jacket. An exhaust gas analyzer
(emissions tester) placed in the coolant fill hole will show HC and CO
gas in the coolant system if this has happened. Any gasses in the water
jacket can cause problems. A cracked/leaking head may not show up in a
leakdown test since the crack may be tiny or close when the head cools.
When testing try to put the engine under some load (don't slip and drive
through the back of the shop wall!).

Good luck!

From mark at dealermats.com  Wed Nov 21 06:28:00 2007
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:28:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Replacement Jacks
References: <20071120200513.1C4AG.276024.root@fepweb10>
	<002701c82bdd$3c2bf660$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>
	<8C9F9F6DF2B2E78-3A8-155F@webmail-da05.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <001001c82c42$57489f60$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>

I guess the fact they are standard equipment for all new cars, and have been
for a long time, means they don't work?  I figured since the car manufacturers
have $billions for research and agree this type of jack is fine for jacking up
a Suburban, it would be OK for a little car, but I will consider your advice.
Thanks for the input :)



  I thought scissor jacks were the worst. Don't think I would want to use one
really. I like the mini floor jack idea.

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 21 06:53:05 2007
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:53:05 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating Question Part II
References: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2570F7@sbs.jdfogg.com>
Message-ID: <002501c82c46$4285d8a0$800101df@garage.local>

this sounds like a good general maintenance idea.  has anyone fabricated one 
of these and documented the parts needed?  i would very much appreciate 
that.

thanks.


. Compression doesn't tell
> you much for a leak, you need to perform a leakdown test. Buy or fashion
> an adapter that will screw into a plug port and allow you to connect an
> air line and gauge. Include a shutoff valve at the air hose connection.

From tputland at charter.net  Wed Nov 21 07:12:42 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 6:12:42 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] test--ignore this
Message-ID: <20071121091242.NYOOZ.17864.root@fepweb09>

--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com  Wed Nov 21 07:36:27 2007
From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:36:27 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] MGB-GM V6 swap kit company in Malibu
Message-ID: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D28BEBF@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>

Saw this company mentioned in a sidebar in the latest issue of Classic
Motorsports.  Some informative info on the website.
Doesn't quote change in balance with these MGB - Chevy V6 swaps, but
looks like a pretty clean package.
I like seeing the 'dependable driver' goal, although I do appreciate
(and have learned a lot from) all the updates from our own
'wild-and-wooly' quest of Andy Cost.

http://www.classicconversionseng.com/

Fergus O, 69 2000, HB, CA
(Happy Holidays!)

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed Nov 21 08:07:51 2007
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:07:51 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] door latches
References: <8C9F9E932595830-ED0-58C2@webmail-da14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <000401c82c50$4a602580$800101df@garage.local>

hi, all.

i am about to reinstall the door latches on my early 67 low windshield 1600 
after having the car repainted and sandblasting the latches followed by 
clear coat.  i'm going to lithium grease the mechanism; i've got new 
"screws"

any tricks/traps/things i should be aware of?  or do i just bolt in and 
adjust/pray?

happy thanksgiving to all of you; may you get some garage time or tv time or 
both!!!

Oliver 

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Wed Nov 21 10:02:35 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:02:35 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] MGB-GM V6 swap kit company in Malibu
In-Reply-To: <C1FC0C23238434458EAA75349E6C755D28BEBF@XMBTX142.northgrum.com>
Message-ID: <27288064.6346651195664555096.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

My ears were burning so I checked my e-mail.

The best powerplant in the world won't make the wipers or the headlights work.


 although I do appreciate
(and have learned a lot from) all the updates from our own
'wild-and-wooly' quest of Andy Cost.

From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com  Wed Nov 21 11:01:25 2007
From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry  Braddock)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:01:25 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] re overheating
Message-ID: <000b01c82c68$88a2f120$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce>

I've "tested" a radiator by running a hose thru it and all seemed fine. I then
took it in and had it rodded out and was told it was 40% clogged .
larry

From James at jdfogg.com  Wed Nov 21 11:16:12 2007
From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:16:12 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating Question Part II
Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2570FB@sbs.jdfogg.com>

> this sounds like a good general maintenance idea.  has anyone
> fabricated one of these and documented the parts needed?  i
> would very much appreciate that.


The Really_Big_Tool_Truck has pre-made tools for this (Snap-Off, MAC,
etc.).

From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 21 11:19:36 2007
From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:19:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating Question Part II - Leakdown tester
In-Reply-To: <002501c82c46$4285d8a0$800101df@garage.local>
Message-ID: <594569.96271.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Oliver,
I've not actually made one, but I did find out how to do it.
Take a look at these....

http://www.xs11.com/tips/misc/misc3.shtml
http://www.650motorcycles.com/LeakDownTester.html

Good luck,
Patti

Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote: this sounds like a good general maintenance idea.  has anyone fabricated one 
of these and documented the parts needed?  i would very much appreciate 
that.

thanks.


. Compression doesn't tell
> you much for a leak, you need to perform a leakdown test. Buy or fashion
> an adapter that will screw into a plug port and allow you to connect an
> air line and gauge. Include a shutoff valve at the air hose connection.
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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 12:03:47 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer )
Date: 21 Nov 2007 11:03:47 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Care2 E-Card from Chris & Christy Breyer
Message-ID: <20071121190410.4196.qmail@node15-www.care2.com>

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From bradlustig at earthlink.net  Wed Nov 21 13:18:19 2007
From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:18:19 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Care2 E-Card from Chris & Christy Breyer
In-Reply-To: <20071121190410.4196.qmail@node15-www.care2.com>
References: <20071121190410.4196.qmail@node15-www.care2.com>
Message-ID: <4744928B.5030604@earthlink.net>

Does someone have a virus on their computer?  Everyone on the list might 
want to check their computers now.
Brad
Mt Pleasant, SC

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Wed Nov 21 15:38:54 2007
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:38:54 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating Question Part II - Leakdown tester
Message-ID: <20071121.143854.655.0@webmail30.vgs.untd.com>

I did not look at what was posted, but i have made my own in the past based on
internet instructions... it is not hard.  They work well... just make sure you
have a good emergency brake, you still block your wheels and don't stand with
your foot under the front wheel (ask me how I know!).  Your engine will want
to turn when you pump 100psi into it, making the car creap or leap.  BTW,
total seal rings do work... my leak down was less than 2lbs on a new motor.
Greg Burrows

-- Patti Dwinell <fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Oliver,
I've not actually made one, but I did find out how to do it.
Take a look at these....

http://www.xs11.com/tips/misc/misc3.shtml
http://www.650motorcycles.com/LeakDownTester.html

Good luck,
Patti

Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net> wrote: this sounds like a good general
maintenance idea.  has anyone fabricated one
of these and documented the parts needed?  i would very much appreciate
that.

thanks.


. Compression doesn't tell
> you much for a leak, you need to perform a leakdown test. Buy or fashion
> an adapter that will screw into a plug port and allow you to connect an
> air line and gauge. Include a shutoff valve at the air hose connection.
________________________________________

From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Wed Nov 21 15:42:58 2007
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:42:58 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] Overheating Question Part II
Message-ID: <20071121.144258.655.1@webmail30.vgs.untd.com>

You can often rent a sniffer from your local autoparts store... all you have
to do is buy the chemical, and it is not expensive.
Greg Burrows

-- John F Sandhoff <sandhoff at csus.edu> wrote:
>  My car has rapidly overheated (in 3-4 minutes) the past couple
> of times I have driven it...

I still say head gasket. If you have the car together and running,
make a deal with your local smog shop. Offer them a few bucks to
take their tailpipe wand and 'sniff' the open radiator cap for
signs of hydrocarbons (i.e. exhaust gases). If it sniffs clean
then time to look elsewhere, and my apologies for the misdiagnosis.

-- John
    John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu  Sacramento, CA
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From mtyler at hctc.net  Wed Nov 21 16:01:08 2007
From: mtyler at hctc.net (Marc&Heidi)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:01:08 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] MGB-GM V6 swap kit company in Malibu
In-Reply-To: <27288064.6346651195664555096.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
References: <27288064.6346651195664555096.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <DE953382-4397-4427-82AD-C69C59BE22FB@hctc.net>

On Nov 21, 2007, at 11:02 AM, andycost at embarqmail.com wrote:

> My ears were burning so I checked my e-mail.
>
> The best powerplant in the world won't make the wipers or the  
> headlights work.

You now must spin around 3 times and spit in the direction of   
Abingdon, or we'll all have electrical gremlins in our roadsters.     
Remember what happened to Tim Miner's car during the Hemmings MGB /  
Roadster shootout.

Now excuse me while I throw rice over my shoulder...

-Marc

From bob-heather at worldnet.att.net  Wed Nov 21 17:23:42 2007
From: bob-heather at worldnet.att.net (Heather and Bob McClenahan)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:23:42 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
Message-ID: <001801c82c9d$f115e250$0200a8c0@Ourcomputer>

I once heard of the use of Chevy rods in a Roadster racing engine.  Has 
anyone else heard of this, or better yet done it or know someone that has? 
I'm looking at doing something like this for my vintage racing engine.  Any 
help would be appreciated!!!!!
Thanks!  Bob 

From mikef at carolina.rr.com  Wed Nov 21 18:06:47 2007
From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:06:47 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
References: <8C9F9E932595830-ED0-58C2@webmail-da14.sysops.aol.com>
	<004b01c82c00$7a482630$800101df@garage.local>
Message-ID: <007701c82ca3$f4db6710$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>

now that was funny!
mike faggart
682L
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank


> http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=TJI%2DT84801&N=700+115&autoview=sku
>
> should fit in the trunk without any problem
>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
>
>
>> Matthew,
>> I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you have a
>> pic or link to where to get one?
>> Thanks
>> Linda
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From mikef at carolina.rr.com  Wed Nov 21 18:15:52 2007
From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:15:52 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
References: <001801c82c9d$f115e250$0200a8c0@Ourcomputer>
Message-ID: <013a01c82ca5$39d9f330$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>

I have heard of this but i do not remember from whom.  Tom Phalen, was it 
Bear from Columbia, SC or (i forgot his name from Advance,NC)
mike faggart
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heather and Bob McClenahan" <bob-heather at worldnet.att.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:23 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?


>I once heard of the use of Chevy rods in a Roadster racing engine.  Has
> anyone else heard of this, or better yet done it or know someone that has?
> I'm looking at doing something like this for my vintage racing engine. 
> Any
> help would be appreciated!!!!!
> Thanks!  Bob
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From ljordan704 at netscape.net  Wed Nov 21 18:34:39 2007
From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:34:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
In-Reply-To: <007701c82ca3$f4db6710$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>
References: <8C9F9E932595830-ED0-58C2@webmail-da14.sysops.aol.com>
	<004b01c82c00$7a482630$800101df@garage.local>
	<007701c82ca3$f4db6710$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>
Message-ID: <8C9FABEFBBFEF05-1288-4326@FWM-D34.sysops.aol.com>

 I checked Summit after I posted and saw that too. Pretty funny.

Linda


 


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Faggart <mikef at carolina.rr.com>
To: Oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 5:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank










now that was funny!
mike faggart
682L
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank


> http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=TJI%2DT84801&N=700+115&autoview=sku
>
> should fit in the trunk without any problem
>
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Original Emergency Jack - Looking for a crank
>
>
>> Matthew,
>> I was just thinking that a mini floor jack would be ideal. do you have a
>> pic or link to where to get one?
>> Thanks
>> Linda
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From 68roadster at charter.net  Wed Nov 21 20:43:03 2007
From: 68roadster at charter.net (Dennis Louthan)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 19:43:03 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Unique Gift
Message-ID: <4744FAC7.3050402@charter.net>

Something for Christmas for the Roadster owner that needs one
more thing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Fairlady-1200-Key-Chain-keychain-ring-Nissan-red_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50431QQihZ006QQitemZ160183093639QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Dennis
68 Stroker
Minden, NV

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 21:55:00 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: 21 Nov 2007 20:55:00 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Care2 E-Card from Chris & Christy Breyer
Message-ID: <20071122045523.16691.qmail@node16-www.care2.com>

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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 21 22:00:03 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:00:03 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Happy Thanksgiving Car sent 2x
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0711212100s74f9cb96j322c87ee39815cba@mail.gmail.com>

It seems that the Happy Thanksgiving Card sent out from here was sent
twice. Sorry if it added to your already heavy email load. The first
one did not appear to be sent. So I resent it and then saw it did get
sent.

Oh well, have a Happy Thanksgiving anyway :o)

Chris

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

From pjmill at sonic.net  Wed Nov 21 23:31:36 2007
From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 22:31:36 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Happy Thanksgiving Car sent 2x
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0711212100s74f9cb96j322c87ee39815cba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200711220631.lAM6VrYa007801@b.mail.sonic.net>

I for one appreciate the kindness!  May YOU ALL have a wonderful and
thankful day! 

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+pjmill=sonic.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Chris & Christy Breyer
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:00 PM
To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net
Subject: [Roadsters] Happy Thanksgiving Car sent 2x

It seems that the Happy Thanksgiving Card sent out from here was sent twice.
Sorry if it added to your already heavy email load. The first one did not
appear to be sent. So I resent it and then saw it did get sent.

Oh well, have a Happy Thanksgiving anyway :o)

Chris

--
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
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From stevenehlers at charter.net  Thu Nov 22 07:57:46 2007
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 08:57:46 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Parts on Ebay
Message-ID: <474598EA.6030907@charter.net>

  I would like to let the list know that I have a few NOS Roadster items 
on ebay now ,and many more to follow in the near future .
Auctions end Sunday night and I will start more then .Thanks for your 
bids and Happy Thanksgiving to all  !

Steve Ehlers
www.risingsunperformance.com

From jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 22 08:27:01 2007
From: jtorres67 at sbcglobal.net (Jeff Torres)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:27:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Solvang 2008
Message-ID: <462877.15461.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

To all the listers who were wondering. This years Solvang meet will be on Saturday April 26th, 2008. There will be more information soon. A website will be launched in January with all the event details! 
   
  Jeff and Gabby Torres
  Lemoore, CA

From Rdstr311 at aol.com  Thu Nov 22 13:41:47 2007
From: Rdstr311 at aol.com (Rdstr311 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:41:47 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Slotted Brake Rotors - New
Message-ID: <c5c.1ec9b082.3477438b@aol.com>

We just got in a small Shipment of New Slotted Brake Rotors in we have 5 sets 
available for $150 a pair plus shipping.
 
You can email me a _fairladyparts at sbcglobal.net_ 
(mailto:fairladyparts at sbcglobal.net) 
 
or call 559-288-8280
 
Lou Smaldino
_www.fairladyparts.com_ (http://www.fairladyparts.com) 
 



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From dc at classicracingphotos.com  Thu Nov 22 22:53:09 2007
From: dc at classicracingphotos.com (Dennis Currington)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:53:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
Message-ID: <374703.66569.qm@web82407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ran accross these photos from the recent FL State Auto-X Championship on the WWW.  Who might they be?
   
  http://classicracingphotos.com/Roadster-FL_auto-x1.jpg
   
  http://classicracingphotos.com/Roadster-FL_auto-x2.jpg
   
   
  Dennis


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From 9laser3 at bright.net  Fri Nov 23 04:20:54 2007
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:20:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
References: <374703.66569.qm@web82407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <007301c82dc2$f8b86ac0$cc21ffd8@hpcustomer>

  Not sure who, ... but I loves those flared fenders.  And with all that
rubber under the car, you gotta wonder what motor is under the hood?

Paul
Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Currington <dc at classicracingphotos.com>


> Ran accross these photos from the recent FL State Auto-X Championship on
the WWW.  Who might they be?
>
>   http://classicracingphotos.com/Roadster-FL_auto-x1.jpg
>
>   http://classicracingphotos.com/Roadster-FL_auto-x2.jpg
>
>
>   Dennis

From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Nov 23 06:23:48 2007
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:23:48 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Evil-L - What to do?
In-Reply-To: <004501c82be5$9d805e80$0da0aa42@gaxp1>
Message-ID: <20071123132348.CJW9427.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>

Try this
http://web.tampabay.rr.com/oilleak/friendly_l.htm


________________________________
BRIAN HOLLANDS
69 2000
Tampa FL

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From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Fri Nov 23 06:42:50 2007
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:42:50 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
In-Reply-To: <374703.66569.qm@web82407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20071123134250.GZET9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>

That's Elliot Harvey.  

________________________________
BRIAN HOLLANDS
69 2000
Tampa, FL


-----Original Message-----

Ran accross these photos from the recent FL State Auto-X Championship on the
WWW.  Who might they be?
   

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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Fri Nov 23 14:18:13 2007
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (gsglasgow at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:18:13 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
Message-ID: <112320072118.1914.474743950003B2750000077A22070009539901099C0E04099C09@comcast.net>

I thought that was probably him. 1967 2000 with huge tires and a 1500 grille. I see he's at least got the car primered now. It used to be white.

He won CSP at the Solo II Nationals a bunch of years ago. If it's still a legal C Street Prepared car, then it is a 2000 with Mikunis and a stock cam (probably a B cam). CSP doesn't allow a whole bunch in the way of engine mods.

People that I know who have seen him say the car looked like a rat but he just drives the wheels off the thing.

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA

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From: "Brian Hollands" <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com> 

> That's Elliot Harvey. 
> 
> ________________________________ 
> BRIAN HOLLANDS 
> 69 2000 
> Tampa, FL 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> 
> Ran accross these photos from the recent FL State Auto-X Championship on the 
> WWW. Who might they be? 
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Fri Nov 23 14:35:15 2007
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 13:35:15 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
In-Reply-To: <112320072118.1914.474743950003B2750000077A22070009539901099C0E04099C09@comcast.net>
References: <112320072118.1914.474743950003B2750000077A22070009539901099C0E04099C09@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <47474793.20005@comcast.net>

so, does anyone know of other cars with large fender flares that they 
could send me links to? 
I would like to get as wide as possible, without looking "goofy".

thanks.

gsglasgow at comcast.net wrote:
> I thought that was probably him. 1967 2000 with huge tires and a 1500 grille. I see he's at least got the car primered now. It used to be white.
>
> He won CSP at the Solo II Nationals a bunch of years ago. If it's still a legal C Street Prepared car, then it is a 2000 with Mikunis and a stock cam (probably a B cam). CSP doesn't allow a whole bunch in the way of engine mods.
>
> People that I know who have seen him say the car looked like a rat but he just drives the wheels off the thing.
>
> Gordon Glasgow
> Renton, WA
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Brian Hollands" <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com> 
>
>   
>> That's Elliot Harvey. 
>>
>> ________________________________ 
>> BRIAN HOLLANDS 
>> 69 2000 
>> Tampa, FL 
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>>
>> Ran accross these photos from the recent FL State Auto-X Championship on the 
>> WWW. Who might they be? 
>>
>>
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From tomph at mchsi.com  Fri Nov 23 15:16:41 2007
From: tomph at mchsi.com (Tom Phelan)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 17:16:41 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
In-Reply-To: <013a01c82ca5$39d9f330$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884>
Message-ID: <001401c82e1e$869c35a0$6701a8c0@dad>

Not sure about the rods but I do remember something about using chevy
rod bolts with minor mods to the datsun rod. Yep - I think you're right
- "Bear" mentioned that also.

Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tomph=mchsi.com at autox.team.net 
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tomph=mchsi.com at autox.team.ne
> t] On Behalf Of Mike Faggart
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:16 PM
> To: Heather and Bob McClenahan; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
> 
> 
> I have heard of this but i do not remember from whom.  Tom 
> Phalen, was it 
> Bear from Columbia, SC or (i forgot his name from Advance,NC) 
> mike faggart
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Heather and Bob McClenahan" <bob-heather at worldnet.att.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:23 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
> 
> 
> >I once heard of the use of Chevy rods in a Roadster racing 
> engine.  Has  
> >anyone else heard of this, or better yet done it or know 
> someone that 
> >has?  I'm looking at doing something like this for my vintage racing 
> >engine.  Any  help would be appreciated!!!!!
> > Thanks!  Bob
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Fri Nov 23 19:26:50 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:26:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
In-Reply-To: <001401c82e1e$869c35a0$6701a8c0@dad>
Message-ID: <22935262.6709481195871210091.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

The stock roadster rods are beefier than any Chevy rods I've seen.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Phelan" <tomph at mchsi.com>
To: "Mike Faggart" <mikef at carolina.rr.com>, "Heather and Bob McClenahan" <bob-heather at worldnet.att.net>, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:16:41 PM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?

Not sure about the rods but I do remember something about using chevy
rod bolts with minor mods to the datsun rod. Yep - I think you're right
- "Bear" mentioned that also.

Tom


> -----Original Message-----
> From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tomph=mchsi.com at autox.team.net 
> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tomph=mchsi.com at autox.team.ne
> t] On Behalf Of Mike Faggart
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:16 PM
> To: Heather and Bob McClenahan; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
> 
> 
> I have heard of this but i do not remember from whom.  Tom 
> Phalen, was it 
> Bear from Columbia, SC or (i forgot his name from Advance,NC) 
> mike faggart
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Heather and Bob McClenahan" <bob-heather at worldnet.att.net>
> To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:23 PM
> Subject: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
> 
> 
> >I once heard of the use of Chevy rods in a Roadster racing 
> engine.  Has  
> >anyone else heard of this, or better yet done it or know 
> someone that 
> >has?  I'm looking at doing something like this for my vintage racing 
> >engine.  Any  help would be appreciated!!!!!
> > Thanks!  Bob
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> >
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From RWM at RWMann.com  Fri Nov 23 19:48:24 2007
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office))
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:48:24 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
In-Reply-To: <22935262.6709481195871210091.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
References: <22935262.6709481195871210091.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <474790F8.80608@RWMann.com>

I've seen builder sentiment for Carillo rods with ARP SBC bolts.  No 
personal experience with either.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex




andycost at embarqmail.com wrote:

>The stock roadster rods are beefier than any Chevy rods I've seen.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tom Phelan" <tomph at mchsi.com>
>To: "Mike Faggart" <mikef at carolina.rr.com>, "Heather and Bob McClenahan" <bob-heather at worldnet.att.net>, datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:16:41 PM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
>
>Not sure about the rods but I do remember something about using chevy
>rod bolts with minor mods to the datsun rod. Yep - I think you're right
>- "Bear" mentioned that also.
>
>Tom
>
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tomph=mchsi.com at autox.team.net 
>>[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tomph=mchsi.com at autox.team.ne
>>t] On Behalf Of Mike Faggart
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:16 PM
>>To: Heather and Bob McClenahan; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>>Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
>>
>>
>>I have heard of this but i do not remember from whom.  Tom 
>>Phalen, was it 
>>Bear from Columbia, SC or (i forgot his name from Advance,NC) 
>>mike faggart
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Heather and Bob McClenahan" <bob-heather at worldnet.att.net>
>>To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>>Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:23 PM
>>Subject: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I once heard of the use of Chevy rods in a Roadster racing 
>>>      
>>>
>>engine.  Has  
>>    
>>
>>>anyone else heard of this, or better yet done it or know 
>>>      
>>>
>>someone that 
>>    
>>
>>>has?  I'm looking at doing something like this for my vintage racing 
>>>engine.  Any  help would be appreciated!!!!!
>>>Thanks!  Bob

From stevenehlers at charter.net  Fri Nov 23 20:38:46 2007
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers)
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2007 21:38:46 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Parts on Ebay
In-Reply-To: <474598EA.6030907@charter.net>
References: <474598EA.6030907@charter.net>
Message-ID: <47479CC6.4000106@charter.net>

Wooo ! Sorry forgot the link .
 http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZscehlers
Steve

<Steve Ehlers wrote:
  <I would like to let the list know that I have a few NOS Roadster 
items on ebay now ,and many more to follow in the near future .
<Auctions end Sunday night and I will start more then .Thanks for your 
bids and Happy Thanksgiving to all  !

<Steve Ehlers
<www.risingsunperformance.com

From rronk at pvtn.net  Sat Nov 24 07:48:53 2007
From: rronk at pvtn.net (Johnny Knorr)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:48:53 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Test
Message-ID: <000b01c82ea9$21f627b0$6801a8c0@JAKRMK>

This is a test to see if my message is being delivered.

 

Johnny Knorr

From rronk at pvtn.net  Sat Nov 24 07:58:39 2007
From: rronk at pvtn.net (Johnny Knorr)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 07:58:39 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Jack Hole Plug
Message-ID: <001001c82eaa$7f3a62f0$6801a8c0@JAKRMK>

I've got a 1970 1600 that I need to paint.  It is missing a jack hole plug.
Does anyone know where I might get hold of one?

 

Thanks,

 

Johnny Knorr

From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Nov 24 08:31:00 2007
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:31:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
In-Reply-To: <47474793.20005@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20071124153100.PEQE9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>

Yeah, the best flare's I've seen are on Craig Hooper's supercharged car.
There's pictures of it on some of the Shasta or Solvang show picture pages.
Someone's got to have a link.  The car is Silver with maroon stripes.  It's
also a high windshield car with a flat dash.  I think it's the best looking
Roadster I've ever seen.

________________________________
BRIAN HOLLANDS
69 2000
Tampa FL


so, does anyone know of other cars with large fender flares that they 
could send me links to? 
I would like to get as wide as possible, without looking "goofy".


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10:06 AM

From 9laser3 at bright.net  Sat Nov 24 09:16:42 2007
From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:16:42 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Peter Harrison's trip!
Message-ID: <00af01c82eb5$83db3a40$e021ffd8@hpcustomer>

  Peter made his way to Ohio yesterday and spent the night in Columbus.  Bob
Smith, Jeff Von Holt and I dragged him to a Quaker Steak & Lube for dinner
and spent the evening swapping roadster stories.

  From Ohio I know he will be cutting through West Virginia on his way to
the Halsted Roadster Ranch.  From there to DC and then south before turning
back west.  And I think he has a stop in Tennessee planned in there some
where.  Any SEROC'ers that have some time and want to meet Peter on this
trip should contact him at
 granvillecomputing at hotmail.com.

Paul
SEROC
Ohio

From az589 at lafn.org  Sat Nov 24 10:15:29 2007
From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:15:29 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
In-Reply-To: <22935262.6709481195871210091.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.syn
	acor.com>
References: <001401c82e1e$869c35a0$6701a8c0@dad>
	<22935262.6709481195871210091.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20071124090845.06011820@lafn.org>

The U20 rods and Chevy L88 rods for the hipo 427BB look like two peas 
in a pod.  They are strikingly similar but not dimensionally the 
same.  When I saw them side by side many years back it shocked 
me.  They both use 7/16 bolts but the  Chevy rod didn't have a pin 
bushing but was plated with a white alloy at the small end.

Stan
=========



Andy Cost

At 06:26 PM 11/23/2007, you wrote:
>The stock roadster rods are beefier than any Chevy rods I've seen.

From d-solomon at comcast.net  Sat Nov 24 10:35:22 2007
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 09:35:22 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
In-Reply-To: <20071124153100.PEQE9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
References: <20071124153100.PEQE9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
Message-ID: <474860DA.60904@comcast.net>

Which one is Craig's?  I did a search on 311's and don't see him.

Brian Hollands wrote:
> Yeah, the best flare's I've seen are on Craig Hooper's supercharged car.
> There's pictures of it on some of the Shasta or Solvang show picture pages.
> Someone's got to have a link.  The car is Silver with maroon stripes.  It's
> also a high windshield car with a flat dash.  I think it's the best looking
> Roadster I've ever seen.
>
> ________________________________
> BRIAN HOLLANDS
> 69 2000
> Tampa FL
>
>
> so, does anyone know of other cars with large fender flares that they 
> could send me links to? 
> I would like to get as wide as possible, without looking "goofy".
>
>
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From mark at dealermats.com  Sat Nov 24 11:18:39 2007
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:18:39 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
References: <20071124153100.PEQE9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
	<474860DA.60904@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001201c82ec6$70b28890$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>

Here is Craigs
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~rpynes/data/hoop.htm

Here is Charlie Breaults
http://www.drone-club.com/files/Charlie_Breault.jpg

Charlie's are big, but not goofy


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Solomon" <d-solomon at comcast.net>
To: "Brian Hollands" <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x who??


> Which one is Craig's?  I did a search on 311's and don't see him.
>
> Brian Hollands wrote:
>> Yeah, the best flare's I've seen are on Craig Hooper's supercharged car.
>> There's pictures of it on some of the Shasta or Solvang show picture 
>> pages.
>> Someone's got to have a link.  The car is Silver with maroon stripes. 
>> It's
>> also a high windshield car with a flat dash.  I think it's the best 
>> looking
>> Roadster I've ever seen.
>>
>> ________________________________
>> BRIAN HOLLANDS
>> 69 2000
>> Tampa FL
>>
>>
>> so, does anyone know of other cars with large fender flares that they
>> could send me links to?
>> I would like to get as wide as possible, without looking "goofy".
>>
>>
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From d-solomon at comcast.net  Sat Nov 24 11:25:17 2007
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:25:17 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
In-Reply-To: <001201c82ec6$70b28890$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>
References: <20071124153100.PEQE9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
	<474860DA.60904@comcast.net>
	<001201c82ec6$70b28890$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>
Message-ID: <47486C8D.7080205@comcast.net>

Yeah, I'm liking both of those.  Neither are goofy. 
I think though that I prefer Craig's.  Does anyone know how I can get 
ahold of him?  Or has he done a write-up before on how he did those flares?

Mark Dent wrote:
> Here is Craigs
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~rpynes/data/hoop.htm
>
> Here is Charlie Breaults
> http://www.drone-club.com/files/Charlie_Breault.jpg
>
> Charlie's are big, but not goofy
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Solomon" 
> <d-solomon at comcast.net>
> To: "Brian Hollands" <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com>
> Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x who??
>
>
>> Which one is Craig's?  I did a search on 311's and don't see him.
>>
>> Brian Hollands wrote:
>>> Yeah, the best flare's I've seen are on Craig Hooper's supercharged 
>>> car.
>>> There's pictures of it on some of the Shasta or Solvang show picture 
>>> pages.
>>> Someone's got to have a link.  The car is Silver with maroon 
>>> stripes. It's
>>> also a high windshield car with a flat dash.  I think it's the best 
>>> looking
>>> Roadster I've ever seen.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> BRIAN HOLLANDS
>>> 69 2000
>>> Tampa FL
>>>
>>>
>>> so, does anyone know of other cars with large fender flares that they
>>> could send me links to?
>>> I would like to get as wide as possible, without looking "goofy".
>>>
>>>
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From mark at dealermats.com  Sat Nov 24 11:26:36 2007
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:26:36 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
References: <20071124153100.PEQE9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
	<474860DA.60904@comcast.net>
	<001201c82ec6$70b28890$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>
	<47486C8D.7080205@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <000d01c82ec7$8cce9ea0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>

The car had them when he bought it.  I can't remember who did it though.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daniel Solomon" <d-solomon at comcast.net>
To: "Mark Dent" <mark at dealermats.com>
Cc: "Brian Hollands" <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com>; 
<datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x who??


> Yeah, I'm liking both of those.  Neither are goofy. I think though that I 
> prefer Craig's.  Does anyone know how I can get ahold of him?  Or has he 
> done a write-up before on how he did those flares?
>
> Mark Dent wrote:
>> Here is Craigs
>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~rpynes/data/hoop.htm
>>
>> Here is Charlie Breaults
>> http://www.drone-club.com/files/Charlie_Breault.jpg
>>
>> Charlie's are big, but not goofy
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Solomon" 
>> <d-solomon at comcast.net>
>> To: "Brian Hollands" <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com>
>> Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x who??
>>
>>
>>> Which one is Craig's?  I did a search on 311's and don't see him.
>>>
>>> Brian Hollands wrote:
>>>> Yeah, the best flare's I've seen are on Craig Hooper's supercharged 
>>>> car.
>>>> There's pictures of it on some of the Shasta or Solvang show picture 
>>>> pages.
>>>> Someone's got to have a link.  The car is Silver with maroon stripes. 
>>>> It's
>>>> also a high windshield car with a flat dash.  I think it's the best 
>>>> looking
>>>> Roadster I've ever seen.
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> BRIAN HOLLANDS
>>>> 69 2000
>>>> Tampa FL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> so, does anyone know of other cars with large fender flares that they
>>>> could send me links to?
>>>> I would like to get as wide as possible, without looking "goofy".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
>>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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>>>> 11/24/2007
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>
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From bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com  Sat Nov 24 11:41:00 2007
From: bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com (Brian Hollands)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:41:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
In-Reply-To: <000d01c82ec7$8cce9ea0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>
Message-ID: <20071124184059.JIDD28763.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>

You know, now that you mention it...
I seem to remember that Mike Kerr at Roadster Restoration had a shell with
big flares on it just like that some 6-7 years ago.

________________________________
BRIAN HOLLANDS
69 2000
Tampa FL



The car had them when he bought it.  I can't remember who did it though.


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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sat Nov 24 11:44:43 2007
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:44:43 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
In-Reply-To: <20071124153100.PEQE9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
Message-ID: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGMEEOENAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Shasta_2004/Images/CraigHooper_side.jpg

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Brian Hollands
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 7:31 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x who??


Yeah, the best flare's I've seen are on Craig Hooper's supercharged car.
There's pictures of it on some of the Shasta or Solvang show picture pages.
Someone's got to have a link.  The car is Silver with maroon stripes.  It's
also a high windshield car with a flat dash.  I think it's the best looking
Roadster I've ever seen.

________________________________
BRIAN HOLLANDS
69 2000
Tampa FL


so, does anyone know of other cars with large fender flares that they
could send me links to?
I would like to get as wide as possible, without looking "goofy".


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Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1149 - Release Date: 11/24/2007
10:06 AM

From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Sat Nov 24 11:54:47 2007
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 10:54:47 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
In-Reply-To: <47486C8D.7080205@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGIEEPENAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

He didn't do the flares. They were done by a PPO.

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Daniel Solomon
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:25 AM
To: Mark Dent
Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x who??


Yeah, I'm liking both of those.  Neither are goofy.
I think though that I prefer Craig's.  Does anyone know how I can get
ahold of him?  Or has he done a write-up before on how he did those flares?

Mark Dent wrote:
> Here is Craigs
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~rpynes/data/hoop.htm
>
> Here is Charlie Breaults
> http://www.drone-club.com/files/Charlie_Breault.jpg
>
> Charlie's are big, but not goofy
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Solomon"
> <d-solomon at comcast.net>
> To: "Brian Hollands" <bhollan4 at tampabay.rr.com>
> Cc: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 12:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x who??
>
>
>> Which one is Craig's?  I did a search on 311's and don't see him.
>>
>> Brian Hollands wrote:
>>> Yeah, the best flare's I've seen are on Craig Hooper's supercharged
>>> car.
>>> There's pictures of it on some of the Shasta or Solvang show picture
>>> pages.
>>> Someone's got to have a link.  The car is Silver with maroon
>>> stripes. It's
>>> also a high windshield car with a flat dash.  I think it's the best
>>> looking
>>> Roadster I've ever seen.
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> BRIAN HOLLANDS
>>> 69 2000
>>> Tampa FL
>>>
>>>
>>> so, does anyone know of other cars with large fender flares that they
>>> could send me links to?
>>> I would like to get as wide as possible, without looking "goofy".
>>>
>>>
>>> No virus found in this outgoing message.
>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1149 - Release Date:
>>> 11/24/2007
>>> 10:06 AM
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
>>>
>>> d-solomon at comcast.net
>>>
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>>>
>>> http://www.team.net/archive
>>>
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>
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>
>
>
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>>
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From tom at datsun2000.com  Sat Nov 24 12:47:49 2007
From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:47:49 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x  who??
In-Reply-To: <20071124153100.PEQE9760.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@IBM140A0C7C90B>
Message-ID: <MBEHKLBNELGFFJEJICKGKEIMDDAA.tom@datsun2000.com>

Here are a few pix of Craig Hooper's car taken at the 2007 Shasta meet.

http://www.datsun2000.com/images/craig_hooper/

Tom
69 2000 - Mr. Hyde
Portland
http://www.datsun2000.com
http://www.nowroc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf
Of Brian Hollands
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 7:31 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Florida Auto-x who??


Yeah, the best flare's I've seen are on Craig Hooper's supercharged car.
There's pictures of it on some of the Shasta or Solvang show picture pages.
Someone's got to have a link.  The car is Silver with maroon stripes.  It's
also a high windshield car with a flat dash.  I think it's the best looking
Roadster I've ever seen.

________________________________
BRIAN HOLLANDS
69 2000
Tampa FL

From RoadsterGB at aol.com  Sat Nov 24 15:07:15 2007
From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 17:07:15 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] Chevy Rods?
Message-ID: <c8f.1a85ba05.3479fa93@aol.com>

A few of the early racers looked at Chevy rods but decided that Datsun rods  
were stronger. A few of them bored out the big end of the rod for Mercedes rod 
 bearings and I heard of one who used modified Chevy rod bearings. 
 
Cheers.
 
Rob

From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Sun Nov 25 05:44:17 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:44:17 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country
Message-ID: <BAY106-W20DA51D7C8C2C656FCF26EDF740@phx.gbl>

It seems that some stuff isn't getting to the list - but I am trying again.

Spent some very pleasant hours with Bob,Paul and Jeff in Columbus. Bob almost
rebuilt Eliza <G>,
and then south. Found some great roads - fast - generally unpopulated - and
fun.

To DC today (Sun) for 2-3 days and then south.

Anyone who wants to hook up (and i would welcome it) please either email me or
call 818 448 3181

TN and SE OK's - don't forget the Oauchita runPeter1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN
(Eliza)

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Sun Nov 25 06:36:06 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 08:36:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W20DA51D7C8C2C656FCF26EDF740@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <31162272.6873551195997766405.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

Talahina scenic byway is pretty good between Mena, Arkansas and Oklahoma.

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter harrison" <granvillecomputing at hotmail.com>
To: "datsun" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 6:44:17 AM (GMT-0600) America/Chicago
Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country

It seems that some stuff isn't getting to the list - but I am trying again.

Spent some very pleasant hours with Bob,Paul and Jeff in Columbus. Bob almost
rebuilt Eliza <G>,
and then south. Found some great roads - fast - generally unpopulated - and
fun.

To DC today (Sun) for 2-3 days and then south.

Anyone who wants to hook up (and i would welcome it) please either email me or
call 818 448 3181

TN and SE OK's - don't forget the Oauchita runPeter1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN
(Eliza)
________________________________________

andycost at embarqmail.com

Datsun-roadsters mailing list

http://www.team.net/archive

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters

From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Sun Nov 25 19:14:02 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:14:02 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Jack Hole Plug
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0711251814s2fbb73a6t516877b9368f64a@mail.gmail.com>

I believe it was yesterday (Saturday) someone posted a request. They
were looking for a Jack Hole Plug.

One was just listed on ebay this afternoon.  ebay Item number: 280177617013

Whoever is is...good Luck

Chris

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

From stevenehlers at charter.net  Sun Nov 25 21:06:48 2007
From: stevenehlers at charter.net (Steve Ehlers)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:06:48 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] NOS Roadster Parts on Ebay
In-Reply-To: <47479CC6.4000106@charter.net>
References: <474598EA.6030907@charter.net>
  <47479CC6.4000106@charter.net>
Message-ID: <474A4658.7050104@charter.net>

I would like to let the list know that I have a few more Rare , NOS 
Roadster items on ebay now ,and many more to follow in the near future . 
Auctions end next Sunday night and I will start more then .Thanks for 
your bids !

Go to : http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZscehlers

Steve Ehlers
www.risingsunperformance.com

From fj20spl311 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 25 21:30:18 2007
From: fj20spl311 at yahoo.com (philip erickson)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:30:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Mercedes rod bearing
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21.1196017203.12353.datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <919628.74825.qm@web31915.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have used Mercedes rod bearing...Been a long time...I think they are a little wider and the tang is in a different position (side).....otherwise almost the same size.
   
  I have used chevy and other rods (after market - mostly CROWER as they are here is San Diego)  on "offset" crank grinds (stroker).
   
  One thing that is not intutive is a smaller diameter crank journal is better for higher RPM.  It has to do with the speed of the bearing wiping the crank.  You might also gain from the lighter rod and you could also increase the length for a different ratio.
   
  Phil
   

       
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From dcon48 at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 26 00:11:29 2007
From: dcon48 at yahoo.com (rick celis)
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:11:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver side Fender 68-70
In-Reply-To: <919628.74825.qm@web31915.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <808393.90475.qm@web90405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello everyone,
Over the holiday weekend i parked my 70 1600 at the
train station parking lot while i visited my family
for the holiday. upon my return i didn't bother to
check my car and drove it home but, heard my tires
rub. i didn't think anything of it at first. thne the
next morning whnei went to start my car i noticed that
some A$$hole hit my car and folded my driver side
fender onto my tire. Now my fender is eating away at
my tire. I plan to bang it out a little so i can drive
with out loosing a tire. I wanted to know if anyone
may have an extra fender they do not need. I am
loacted in the SF Bay Area so local would be best but,
i am willing to pay for shipping too. So if anyone has
any leads on one it would be much appreciated.
Thank You

RC3
70' 1600


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From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov  Mon Nov 26 06:31:38 2007
From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03))
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:31:38 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Peter Harrison's trip!
In-Reply-To: <00af01c82eb5$83db3a40$e021ffd8@hpcustomer>
References: <00af01c82eb5$83db3a40$e021ffd8@hpcustomer>
Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76325FB3@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov>

 What day will Pete be coming through TN?  I am here this week but most
likely on travel next.  I will be happy to put him up for the night and
see how many lies, I mean stories, we can tell.

Phil
Huntsville, AL
SEROC

-----Original Message-----
From:
datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=msfc.nasa.gov at autox.team
.net] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:17 AM
To: Brad Holmes
Cc: Roadsters
Subject: [Roadsters] Peter Harrison's trip!

  Peter made his way to Ohio yesterday and spent the night in Columbus.
Bob Smith, Jeff Von Holt and I dragged him to a Quaker Steak & Lube for
dinner and spent the evening swapping roadster stories.

  From Ohio I know he will be cutting through West Virginia on his way
to the Halsted Roadster Ranch.  From there to DC and then south before
turning back west.  And I think he has a stop in Tennessee planned in
there some where.  Any SEROC'ers that have some time and want to meet
Peter on this trip should contact him at
granvillecomputing at hotmail.com.

Paul
SEROC
Ohio
________________________________________

From ericerichoffman at yahoo.com  Mon Nov 26 07:44:45 2007
From: ericerichoffman at yahoo.com (Eric Hoffman)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:44:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] why a rollbar is a good idea
Message-ID: <241888.72532.qm@web36911.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://video. roadfly.com/ action/viewvideo /85/

       
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From ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net  Mon Nov 26 10:00:45 2007
From: ktmaustin at sbcglobal.net (Kevin McDonald)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:00:45 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver side Fender 68-70
References: <808393.90475.qm@web90405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <008c01c8304d$e36aa010$6500190a@ktmlt2>

Hi Rick,
I have two oem front fenders for a 69.
Each has rust spots in front of the door jam but are easily repairable and 
otherwise they are quite nice.
Free for pickup in Austin TX.
Kevin

p.s. Anybody else?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rick celis" <dcon48 at yahoo.com>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:11 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] Driver side Fender 68-70


> Hello everyone,
> Over the holiday weekend i parked my 70 1600 at the
> train station parking lot while i visited my family
> for the holiday. upon my return i didn't bother to
> check my car and drove it home but, heard my tires
> rub. i didn't think anything of it at first. thne the
> next morning whnei went to start my car i noticed that
> some A$$hole hit my car and folded my driver side
> fender onto my tire. Now my fender is eating away at
> my tire. I plan to bang it out a little so i can drive
> with out loosing a tire. I wanted to know if anyone
> may have an extra fender they do not need. I am
> loacted in the SF Bay Area so local would be best but,
> i am willing to pay for shipping too. So if anyone has
> any leads on one it would be much appreciated.
> Thank You
>
> RC3
> 70' 1600
>
>
> 
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From tputland at charter.net  Mon Nov 26 12:27:14 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:27:14 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] why a rollbar is a good idea
In-Reply-To: <241888.72532.qm@web36911.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20071126142714.G42EC.222717.root@fepweb04>

Amazing the number of cars that ended up on their wheels!
--


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Eric Hoffman <ericerichoffman at yahoo.com> wrote: 

=============
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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 27 07:20:16 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:20:16 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] XCountry Update - November 26 - Washington DC
Message-ID: <BAY106-W26F815F281E5C9BDC7A9F4DF760@phx.gbl>

Trying again - just sending to the list

Subject: XCountry Update - November 26 - Washington DCDate: Mon, 26 Nov 2007
06:50:23 -0800


Well, I finally arrived in a blast of Pomp & Circumstance wearing my newly
refurbished bowler hat. Over 4000 miles to get here. West Virginia is
beautiful - when I do this again - I want to plan it to see the fall colours -
mostly the trees are bare - but still lovely to look at. So far, except for
the rain from KC to St Louis weather has been great - though I am told rain is
expected today. Going to visit Craig Halsted in Strasb(e/u)rg and the Science
museum annex. Here in DC until Thursday AM and then heading south to South
Carolina. Larry has lined up a slew of brew pubs to visit - though hopefully I
can spend some time with Brian (my godson) and his mother Molly. Interestingly
enough (at least to me) I am getting a 'let's get it over with' sensation.
I've done what I set out to do so that's that. Something no doubt about
avoiding the opportunity to be disappointed. A weird sensation and one that I
am just going to be with until I figure it out. So, I am trying to reframe
since I don't want to RUSH back through the south, still have people to visit
and sights to see. Not that I am tempting the gods but I don't quite see how
people get speeding tickets - everyone is hammering away at least 15 mph over
the limit - maybe the cops just play 'eenie, meenie, miny YOU!!!' So, off to
breakfast and Strasb(e/u)rgPeter1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Tue Nov 27 07:30:22 2007
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:30:22 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] XCountry Update - November 26 - Washington DC
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-W26F815F281E5C9BDC7A9F4DF760@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY106-W26F815F281E5C9BDC7A9F4DF760@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <474C29FE.4060409@hornesystemstx.com>

Thusly spake peter harrison:

Hey, man, this is the SOUTH! Everything is supposed to go slower here! 
Relax and have a great trip back.
> Interestingly
> enough (at least to me) I am getting a 'let's get it over with' sensation.
> I've done what I set out to do so that's that. Something no doubt about
> avoiding the opportunity to be disappointed. A weird sensation and one that I
> am just going to be with until I figure it out. So, I am trying to reframe
> since I don't want to RUSH back through the south, still have people to visit
> and sights to see. 
Several times I've been a line of cars, all going the same speed (over 
the limit) and had cops pull me out of line and give we a warning 
ticket. All the time checking out the Roadster. Never gotten a ticket 
though, but I generally keep my speed at or below the limit so I can 
check out the views.


> Not that I am tempting the gods but I don't quite see how
> people get speeding tickets - everyone is hammering away at least 15 mph over
> the limit - maybe the cops just play 'eenie, meenie, miny YOU!!!' So, off to
> breakfast and Strasb(e/u)rgPeter1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)
> ________________________________________
>   
Hope to see you in Texas.

Peace,
Pat



-- 
Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems 
(512) 797-7501 Voice		5026 FM 2001
Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com	Lockhart, TX 78644-4443
www.hornesystemstx.com
-- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT --

From sog891 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 12:06:28 2007
From: sog891 at gmail.com (Pete Kandratieff)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 11:06:28 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Cast iron distributor mount
Message-ID: <4719ff960711271106p60bfaae8xc5f6c944b43a44ba@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

How does one remove the cast iron distributor mount off the block?

After pushing a putty knife in from the outer edges, I've come to find out,
the mount actually sleeves into the block part way. The motor is assembled
and wonder if this wil affect the oil pump down below in any way? I was on
311s.org but could not find any info on this.

Thank you.
Peter
'69 2000

From graemes at internode.on.net  Tue Nov 27 15:27:51 2007
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:57:51 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Cast iron distributor mount
In-Reply-To: <4719ff960711271106p60bfaae8xc5f6c944b43a44ba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4719ff960711271106p60bfaae8xc5f6c944b43a44ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000601c83144$bf5a4340$426fa8c0@desktop>

Yes is has a bush at the base of the ditributor that fits down inside a
sleeve in the block.
One you remove the two retaining fasteners, one each side of the distributor
base, you can twist the dist. to break it free, then lift it to slide it
out..
If it has never been removed before, from your knowledge, it is probably
quite stuck in that sleeve.
Once it starts moving dose it with WD-40 and let it soak before trying
again.
It is only stiction keeping it in there. 

"How does one remove the cast iron distributor mount off the block?"

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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 15:47:23 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (fairlady66 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:47:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] Photos from Chris - My Public Shoebox and more...
Message-ID: <20071127224723.649497AC133@c13-ws-mail1.cnet.com>

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     _________________________________________________________________

   From: fairlady66 at gmail.com
   To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
   Hey Roadster family,
   If you have a minute, check out these photos from my Webshots photo
   album! Slow work in progress but its getting there. Thanks to all for
   your input.
   Enjoy,
   Chris
   P.S. Make friends with this Webshots member, and you can print their
   photos!
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From fairlady66 at gmail.com  Tue Nov 27 15:53:46 2007
From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:53:46 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Try this for the Webshot
Message-ID: <b0b0059f0711271453w391d9948md627550b3038e503@mail.gmail.com>

I guess that last email didn't work so well.  Here is the link to my album
for my Roadster.
it is a work in progress but it is coming along.  Thanks to all for your
input and help.
http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2870070840102599732IeIZrc


Chris

-- 
'66 1600
Riverside, CA
------------------------------------------------------
This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one.

From graemes at internode.on.net  Tue Nov 27 16:15:26 2007
From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:45:26 +1030
Subject: [Roadsters] Try this for the Webshot
In-Reply-To: <b0b0059f0711271453w391d9948md627550b3038e503@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b0b0059f0711271453w391d9948md627550b3038e503@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001d01c8314b$65d1dde0$426fa8c0@desktop>

"it is a work in progress but it is coming along.  Thanks to all for your
input and help."

Looks good!
Nice to have a large undercover area to do that sort of work.
Congrats. 

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From JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net  Wed Nov 28 20:56:51 2007
From: JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net (JohnnyRoadster)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:56:51 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay 67 datsun
Message-ID: <00cd01c8323b$e0377810$0300a8c0@JohnLaptop>

There is a 67 on eBay.  The vin would indicate that it is a 67 and not a 67.5?
But the dash has the black gauges and the three toggles.  Does anyone know any
history onthis car?
SPL311-19356

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=ST
RK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=160184589486&rd=1


http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster

From slowboy at cox.net  Wed Nov 28 22:03:32 2007
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:03:32 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay 67 datsun
References: <00cd01c8323b$e0377810$0300a8c0@JohnLaptop>
Message-ID: <000601c83245$3102f9f0$0201a8c0@m7170n>

The brake master cylinder is dual that is found on the 67.5

From mark at dealermats.com  Thu Nov 29 04:43:22 2007
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 06:43:22 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay 67 datsun
References: <00cd01c8323b$e0377810$0300a8c0@JohnLaptop>
Message-ID: <001001c8327d$0d346ee0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser>

This was discussed on 311s.  The VIN on the auction is SPL311-4275 which is 
missing a number.  The actual VIN is SPL311-14275 which is a 67.5



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JohnnyRoadster" <JohnnyRoadster at comcast.net>
To: <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 10:56 PM
Subject: [Roadsters] ebay 67 datsun


> There is a 67 on eBay.  The vin would indicate that it is a 67 and not a 
> 67.5?
> But the dash has the black gauges and the three toggles.  Does anyone know 
> any
> history onthis car?
> SPL311-19356
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=006&sspagename=ST
> RK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=160184589486&rd=1
>
>
> http://community.webshots.com/user/johnnyroadster
> ________________________________________
>
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>
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>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Nov 29 06:26:03 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 5:26:03 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] alt bracket
Message-ID: <20071129082603.875F3.30270.root@fepweb03>

Hi all. 

This past summer I moved the alt on my 1600 to the passenger side. It works great and I have had no problems, yet. I say yet as I am not happy with the stability of the mounting I did. I think it is a matter of time before it fails on me. 

I would like to change the mount set up this winter. I used the smog pump bracket as it was there and seemed to work just fine. What I am looking for is a bracket I have seen on ebay a couple times and not been able to win. This bracket has a longer nose on it than the smog pump bracket. Does any one know where I can get one of these? (Is this bracket the original driver's side bracket moved to the other side of the motor? It didn't look to me like it would fit properly so I didn't try it.)

Thanks for any and all help!

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From boakes at gmail.com  Thu Nov 29 08:22:36 2007
From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:22:36 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
Message-ID: <3ad057d60711290722p5078e6c2oe6a2ec28d26d1927@mail.gmail.com>

Now that Winter has really rolled into Chicago (18 degrees) I find
myself easily distracted by eBay.

So, I stumbled on this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Datsun-B210-MUSEUM-QUALITY-240z-260z-280z_W0QQitemZ170173276573QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Funny, funny ad:

===========
You want a MINT, PRISTINE, IMMACULATE 1974 B210?

Once in a while comes a car that just blows your mind away. THIS IS THE CAR
===========

The car is truly immaculate, but a '74 B210? Has this really become a "classic"?

Get past the pictures of the pretty blonde (or not) and then read the
questions/answers. Gotta love people with a sense of humor.

-Bill Oakes
'68 2000 Solex, still in pieces....

From RWM at RWMann.com  Thu Nov 29 08:43:45 2007
From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:43:45 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60711290722p5078e6c2oe6a2ec28d26d1927@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3ad057d60711290722p5078e6c2oe6a2ec28d26d1927@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <474EDE31.4020203@RWMann.com>

Recollections of those "Do it in a Datsun" ads....


Bill Oakes wrote:

>Now that Winter has really rolled into Chicago (18 degrees) I find
>myself easily distracted by eBay.
>
>So, I stumbled on this:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Datsun-B210-MUSEUM-QUALITY-240z-260z-280z_W0QQitemZ170173276573QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>Funny, funny ad:
>
>===========
>You want a MINT, PRISTINE, IMMACULATE 1974 B210?
>
>Once in a while comes a car that just blows your mind away. THIS IS THE CAR
>===========
>
>The car is truly immaculate, but a '74 B210? Has this really become a "classic"?
>
>Get past the pictures of the pretty blonde (or not) and then read the
>questions/answers. Gotta love people with a sense of humor.
>
>-Bill Oakes
>'68 2000 Solex, still in pieces....

From nmleeds at mindspring.com  Thu Nov 29 09:05:52 2007
From: nmleeds at mindspring.com (nmleeds at mindspring.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:05:52 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
Message-ID: <6370905.1196352352904.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I wonder if the girl comes with the car?  Awesome modeling . . . makes me think that I should upgrade my babe-magnet-daily-driver (rusty '88 honda prelude) to a real babe attractor.  Didn't they call it the "B210" because "Babe 21" was to obvious?


N

-----Original Message-----
>From: Bill Oakes <boakes at gmail.com>
>Sent: Nov 29, 2007 7:22 AM
>To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
>Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
>
>Now that Winter has really rolled into Chicago (18 degrees) I find
>myself easily distracted by eBay.
>
>So, I stumbled on this:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Datsun-B210-MUSEUM-QUALITY-240z-260z-280z_W0QQitemZ170173276573QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>Funny, funny ad:
>
>===========
>You want a MINT, PRISTINE, IMMACULATE 1974 B210?
>
>Once in a while comes a car that just blows your mind away. THIS IS THE CAR
>===========
>
>The car is truly immaculate, but a '74 B210? Has this really become a "classic"?
>
>Get past the pictures of the pretty blonde (or not) and then read the
>questions/answers. Gotta love people with a sense of humor.
>
>-Bill Oakes
>'68 2000 Solex, still in pieces....
>________________________________________
>
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>
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>
>http://www.team.net/archive
>
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From James at jdfogg.com  Thu Nov 29 09:20:35 2007
From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:20:35 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A257133@sbs.jdfogg.com>

> I wonder if the girl comes with the car?  Awesome modeling .
> . . makes me think that I should upgrade my
> babe-magnet-daily-driver (rusty '88 honda prelude) to a real
> babe attractor.  Didn't they call it the "B210" because "Babe
> 21" was to obvious?


I know it's not supposed to work this way, but I found my 2006 Mustang
is the finest Babe Magnet I've ever been in. Blows away everything I've
cruised, including Jags, Corvettes, Porsches, Benzs and more (not all
were mine). I've stopped taking my wife for rides because my shoulder
was getting bruised from her punching it when I smile back. The day a
cutey leaned way out a McDonalds drivethrough to check out my ride and
make sure I checked out her ride was too much. When the girl ditched the
drivethrough to personally carside deliver the delayed food my wife was
livid.

My 66 Roadster performed amazingly well too, but it mostly brought
questions about what it was. Most girls thought it was "cute", which can
be a bad sign. I only had it on the road for 2 weeks before before
putting it back in the barn. It's definatly in "pre-restoration" state.

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 29 09:36:47 2007
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:36:47 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] alt bracket
References: <20071129082603.875F3.30270.root@fepweb03>
Message-ID: <003701c832a6$092e5350$6500a8c0@lap>

Tim,
Here's how I mounted a GM one-wire to my 1600 stroker using a smog bracket,
and a fabricated bracket made from a 1/8" x 1 1/2" steel bar with 3 holes
drilled in it. I had the same concerns as you and thought this was the
easiest solution to provide additional support on the front of the
alternator.

I used a long Grade 8 bolt going through the alternator and brackets. This
also required roughly a 1/2" worth of spacer / washers on the lower mounting
and a slight re-bending of the adjustment arm to make all the pulleys line
up.

some pictures:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2078345820101536403hnwfSt

Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5speed


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:26 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] alt bracket


> Hi all.
>
> This past summer I moved the alt on my 1600 to the passenger side. It
works great and I have had no problems, yet. I say yet as I am not happy
with the stability of the mounting I did. I think it is a matter of time
before it fails on me.
>
> I would like to change the mount set up this winter. I used the smog pump
bracket as it was there and seemed to work just fine. What I am looking for
is a bracket I have seen on ebay a couple times and not been able to win.
This bracket has a longer nose on it than the smog pump bracket. Does any
one know where I can get one of these? (Is this bracket the original
driver's side bracket moved to the other side of the motor? It didn't look
to me like it would fit properly so I didn't try it.)
>
> Thanks for any and all help!
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning

From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 29 09:57:30 2007
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:57:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A257133@sbs.jdfogg.com>
Message-ID: <172913.55405.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The universal female reaction to my Sora Blue 1970 2000 Roadster has always been - and I quote - "What a cute car!". Oh well...

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

James Fogg <James at jdfogg.com> wrote: > I wonder if the girl comes with the car?  Awesome modeling .
> . . makes me think that I should upgrade my
> babe-magnet-daily-driver (rusty '88 honda prelude) to a real
> babe attractor.  Didn't they call it the "B210" because "Babe
> 21" was to obvious?


I know it's not supposed to work this way, but I found my 2006 Mustang
is the finest Babe Magnet I've ever been in. Blows away everything I've
cruised, including Jags, Corvettes, Porsches, Benzs and more (not all
were mine). I've stopped taking my wife for rides because my shoulder
was getting bruised from her punching it when I smile back. The day a
cutey leaned way out a McDonalds drivethrough to check out my ride and
make sure I checked out her ride was too much. When the girl ditched the
drivethrough to personally carside deliver the delayed food my wife was
livid.

My 66 Roadster performed amazingly well too, but it mostly brought
questions about what it was. Most girls thought it was "cute", which can
be a bad sign. I only had it on the road for 2 weeks before before
putting it back in the barn. It's definatly in "pre-restoration" state.
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Nov 29 10:16:38 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:16:38 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <172913.55405.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20071129121638.DBV2C.45344.root@fepweb03>

Ah yes...." cute car ". I get that with both of mine as well, even though they are both, for now, very much 25 footers AT BEST. 

Nothing a guy, who is 6'5" tall and weighs over 21 stone, wants to hear more: OH WHAT A CUTE CAR. Oh well, they are both too much fun to worry too much about that!


Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

---- Gary McCormick <gkmcc at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 

=============
The universal female reaction to my Sora Blue 1970 2000 Roadster has always been - and I quote - "What a cute car!". Oh well...

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

James Fogg <James at jdfogg.com> wrote: > I wonder if the girl comes with the car?  Awesome modeling .
> . . makes me think that I should upgrade my
> babe-magnet-daily-driver (rusty '88 honda prelude) to a real
> babe attractor.  Didn't they call it the "B210" because "Babe
> 21" was to obvious?


I know it's not supposed to work this way, but I found my 2006 Mustang
is the finest Babe Magnet I've ever been in. Blows away everything I've
cruised, including Jags, Corvettes, Porsches, Benzs and more (not all
were mine). I've stopped taking my wife for rides because my shoulder
was getting bruised from her punching it when I smile back. The day a
cutey leaned way out a McDonalds drivethrough to check out my ride and
make sure I checked out her ride was too much. When the girl ditched the
drivethrough to personally carside deliver the delayed food my wife was
livid.

My 66 Roadster performed amazingly well too, but it mostly brought
questions about what it was. Most girls thought it was "cute", which can
be a bad sign. I only had it on the road for 2 weeks before before
putting it back in the barn. It's definatly in "pre-restoration" state.
________________________________________

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From gregs672liter at netzero.net  Thu Nov 29 10:20:50 2007
From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:20:50 GMT
Subject: [Roadsters] alt bracket
Message-ID: <20071129.092050.23001.0@webmail24.vgs.untd.com>

I think the smog mount would work just fine if it were shimmed up some, but
the critical piece is that front plate (like what Mike made)... standard on my
67 2000.  I have seen conversions that had not used a support plate where the
alt had fatigued the long bolt enough to break it.
Greg Burrows

-- "Mike H." <twobeaners at earthlink.net> wrote:
Tim,
Here's how I mounted a GM one-wire to my 1600 stroker using a smog bracket,
and a fabricated bracket made from a 1/8" x 1 1/2" steel bar with 3 holes
drilled in it. I had the same concerns as you and thought this was the
easiest solution to provide additional support on the front of the
alternator.

I used a long Grade 8 bolt going through the alternator and brackets. This
also required roughly a 1/2" worth of spacer / washers on the lower mounting
and a slight re-bending of the adjustment arm to make all the pulleys line
up.

some pictures:
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2078345820101536403hnwfSt

Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5speed


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" <tputland at charter.net>
To: "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 7:26 AM
Subject: [Roadsters] alt bracket


> Hi all.
>
> This past summer I moved the alt on my 1600 to the passenger side. It
works great and I have had no problems, yet. I say yet as I am not happy
with the stability of the mounting I did. I think it is a matter of time
before it fails on me.
>
> I would like to change the mount set up this winter. I used the smog pump
bracket as it was there and seemed to work just fine. What I am looking for
is a bracket I have seen on ebay a couple times and not been able to win.
This bracket has a longer nose on it than the smog pump bracket. Does any
one know where I can get one of these? (Is this bracket the original
driver's side bracket moved to the other side of the motor? It didn't look
to me like it would fit properly so I didn't try it.)
>
> Thanks for any and all help!
>
> Tim
> Belleville, WI.
> '70 SPL AND SRL
> Still clueless but always learning
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From tputland at charter.net  Thu Nov 29 10:30:03 2007
From: tputland at charter.net (Tim)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 9:30:03 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] alt bracket
In-Reply-To: <004401c832a9$70971330$6500a8c0@lap>
Message-ID: <20071129123003.D42H6.46211.root@fepweb03>

Thanks to all who have replied, especially to Mike who had a pic of what I had been thinking of doing. I had been wondering if the lower triangle bracket would work and if it was safe to do.

PEACE :-)

Tim
Belleville, WI.
'70 SPL AND SRL
Still clueless but always learning

From andycost at embarqmail.com  Thu Nov 29 10:53:00 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:53:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <20071129121638.DBV2C.45344.root@fepweb03>
Message-ID: <4430533.505371196358780149.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

I thought I was getting checked out by some cuties when I was driving my Supercharged MR2.  They motioned for me to roll down the window.  I was pretty excited but didn't show it.  The young lady said "Excuse me Sir, can you tell me how to get to the college campus?"  The whole "Sir" thing ruined the fantasy.  I guess you can't be young forever. 

Andy 

From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com  Thu Nov 29 10:54:58 2007
From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:54:58 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <474EDE31.4020203@RWMann.com>
Message-ID: <C3743CF2.4D3E%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>

I checked the bid history and noticed that one bidder with zero feedback has
placed about 30 bids, and on several occasions has bid him/herself up 5
times with no responding bid. I suspect that's either a flake bidder or the
seller has a confidant - perhaps the blonde - that is pushing the price up.

Greg
SRL31100494
Roadstering since '75


On 11/29/07 7:43 AM, "RWM" <RWM at RWMann.com> wrote:

> Recollections of those "Do it in a Datsun" ads....
> 
> 
> Bill Oakes wrote:
> 
>> Now that Winter has really rolled into Chicago (18 degrees) I find
>> myself easily distracted by eBay.
>> 
>> So, I stumbled on this:
>> 
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Datsun-B210-MUSEUM-QUALITY-240z-260z-280z
>> _W0QQitemZ170173276573QQihZ007QQcategoryZ6188QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie
>> wItem
>> 
>> Funny, funny ad:
>> 
>> ===========
>> You want a MINT, PRISTINE, IMMACULATE 1974 B210?
>> 
>> Once in a while comes a car that just blows your mind away. THIS IS THE CAR
>> ===========
>> 
>> The car is truly immaculate, but a '74 B210? Has this really become a
>> "classic"?
>> 
>> Get past the pictures of the pretty blonde (or not) and then read the
>> questions/answers. Gotta love people with a sense of humor.
>> 
>> -Bill Oakes
>> '68 2000 Solex, still in pieces....
> ________________________________________
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From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 29 11:00:58 2007
From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:00:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <4430533.505371196358780149.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <379980.18368.qm@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Oh, yeah - the "sir" thing. Definite buzzkill for us 40+(+)-yr old fellas... (sigh).

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

andycost at embarqmail.com wrote: I thought I was getting checked out by some cuties when I was driving my Supercharged MR2.  They motioned for me to roll down the window.  I was pretty excited but didn't show it.  The young lady said "Excuse me Sir, can you tell me how to get to the college campus?"  The whole "Sir" thing ruined the fantasy.  I guess you can't be young forever. 

Andy 
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From slowboy at cox.net  Thu Nov 29 11:30:56 2007
From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:30:56 -0700
Subject: [Roadsters] Ebay Selling
Message-ID: <001d01c832b5$fb8e3750$0201a8c0@m7170n>

This is for those selling on Ebay that accept Paypal as payment.

I use Ebay occasionally to purchase roadster stuff and I have a Paypal account
to buy the stuff with my credit card.

I wanted to put a few items up for sale that I will not be using and I wanted
to give those interested the option to use Paypal to pay.

I have read the Paypal site on setting up the account for buyers to use
Paypal. It has me wondering.

I would like to hear the easy already tested tried and true from you that have
already setup to allow buyers to use Paypal.

The last time I sold an item it was several years ago.

Thanks for the input!

SlowBoy

From jrdmf at aol.com  Thu Nov 29 12:17:00 2007
From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:17:00 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <C3743CF2.4D3E%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <8CA00D38D447515-728-6B84@webmail-md14.sysops.aol.com>

If you take?it a step further?you'll?notice this?same seller had sold a 260Z a while back and it looks like the same ebay user with zero feedback had bumped that auction up too??(Surprise!) I used to take the time to write?ebay about shill bidders like this?but have learned the hard way that?ebay's policey toward any wrong doing?has more to do with?finding better ways to collect their money than it?has to do with?protecting ours. One more reason that forums like this have become so invaluable for?anybody doing business on the internet.

Jon Frampton
Huntington Beach 


-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory S. Morrison <gsm at gregorysmorrison.com>
To: RWM <RWM at RWMann.com>; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 9:54 am
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along



I checked the bid history and noticed that one bidder with zero feedback has
placed about 30 bids, and on several occasions has bid him/herself up 5
times with no responding bid. I suspect that's either a flake bidder or the
seller has a confidant - perhaps the blonde - that is pushing the price up.

Greg
SRL31100494
Roadstering since '75





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From bradlustig at earthlink.net  Thu Nov 29 12:27:37 2007
From: bradlustig at earthlink.net (Brad Lustig)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:27:37 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <8CA00D38D447515-728-6B84@webmail-md14.sysops.aol.com>
References: <8CA00D38D447515-728-6B84@webmail-md14.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <474F12A9.5070603@earthlink.net>

There's some different eye candy for that Z, too.  Someone other than 
the blond.  Me thinks somebody isn't on the up and up for some reason.
Brad

jrdmf at aol.com wrote:
> If you take?it a step further?you'll?notice this?same seller had sold a 260Z a while back and it looks like the same ebay user with zero feedback had bumped that auction up too??(Surprise!) I used to take the time to write?ebay about shill bidders like this?but have learned the hard way that?ebay's policey toward any wrong doing?has more to do with?finding better ways to collect their money than it?has to do with?protecting ours. One more reason that forums like this have become so invaluable for?anybody doing business on the internet.
>
> Jon Frampton
> Huntington Beach 

From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us  Thu Nov 29 12:52:20 2007
From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:52:20 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
References: <8CA00D38D447515-728-6B84@webmail-md14.sysops.aol.com>
	<474F12A9.5070603@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B18441BA1@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us>

Bidding on you own goods has been a mainstay of auctioneers and aution-hounds
for decades.  I learned this trick many years ago as a grade-schooler going to
antique auctions with my father.  Most dealers did it, and they paid more for
commission if they ended up buying their own goods back.  Its not an 'up and
up' deal, its just auction business.  I dont do it on eBay, as most of my
items are 'buy it now' with a fair price, and the deal is completed in an hour
or so.

Eric G
Modesto, CA

________________________________

From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us at autox.team.net on
behalf of Brad Lustig
Sent: Thu 11/29/2007 11:27 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along



There's some different eye candy for that Z, too.  Someone other than
the blond.  Me thinks somebody isn't on the up and up for some reason.
Brad

jrdmf at aol.com wrote:
> If you take?it a step further?you'll?notice this?same seller had sold a 260Z
a while back and it looks like the same ebay user with zero feedback had
bumped that auction up too??(Surprise!) I used to take the time to write?ebay
about shill bidders like this?but have learned the hard way that?ebay's
policey toward any wrong doing?has more to do with?finding better ways to
collect their money than it?has to do with?protecting ours. One more reason
that forums like this have become so invaluable for?anybody doing business on
the internet.
>
> Jon Frampton
> Huntington Beach
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From 12061997 at comcast.net  Thu Nov 29 14:31:15 2007
From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:31:15 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] e-bay
Message-ID: <112920072131.12063.474F2FA30007617100002F1F2207021553C9C7C7CEC0CFCDCE@comcast.net>

Hi List, I guess I'm one of the few but I have never bought anything or listed anything on e-bay and doubt I ever will..I have parts to sell but I'll wait until someone on the lists that I know needs them.bob ballinger 67-1600, muncie,in

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov 29 14:39:20 2007
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:39:20 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Ebay Selling
References: <001d01c832b5$fb8e3750$0201a8c0@m7170n>
Message-ID: <000f01c832d0$50057360$f901010a@garage.local>

i use ebay quite a bit, both personal and business.

i use separate paypal accounts for each.

my business paypal account is tied directly to my amex gold card.  well 
worth it - they have come through almost every time for me.

my personal is tied to my checking account; not sure i like that so much.

paypal works, is reasonably secure, but both ebay and paypal are not real 
good at going to bat for you or resolving issues.

From escanlon at wa-net.com  Thu Nov 29 14:58:13 2007
From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:58:13 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
References: <C3743CF2.4D3E%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
Message-ID: <003601c832d2$f0e6d600$0300a8c0@HPWIDESCREEN>

>I checked the bid history and noticed that one bidder with zero feedback 
>has
> placed about 30 bids, and on several occasions has bid him/herself up 5
> times with no responding bid. I suspect that's either a flake bidder or 
> the
> seller has a confidant - perhaps the blonde - that is pushing the price 
> up.

Greg;
You're reading way too much into it.  The numerous bids are because of a 
prior bid that was higher than the incremental bids that were being made. 
It ~appears~ to be bad until you look at the time when each of the bids was 
made.  Those "upward bids" you refer to are just failed bids.

To simplify:

Bidder A places a $500 bid on an item that started at $1 at 0100 (1 am for 
you non-military types)
He will be the current winning bidder with a $1.00 bid

Bidder B places a $100 bid at 0200 (2 am) but will not overbid bidder A.
Auction will now show Bidder A with a $101 bid. (using a $1.00 bid 
increment) from the original 0100 bid

Bidder B places a $200 bid at 0215.  Again, not enough
Auction shows Bidder A with a $201 bid with an 0100 date stamp

Bidder B places a $600 bid at 0230 Now he's the current winning bidder.

Bids will read as follows on e-bay:

Bidder B $600 0230
Bidder A $500 0100
Bidder B $200 0215
Bidder B $100 0200
Start: $1.00

It appears as if Bidder B bid against himself to schill the bidding but he 
didn't.  Same with this auction.  u**s was upping their bid by $100 
increments every few minutes/seconds and b**s was using $1000 increments 
once a day. 

From jrdmf at aol.com  Thu Nov 29 15:51:58 2007
From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:51:58 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <003601c832d2$f0e6d600$0300a8c0@HPWIDESCREEN>
References: <C3743CF2.4D3E%gsm@gregorysmorrison.com>
	<003601c832d2$f0e6d600$0300a8c0@HPWIDESCREEN>
Message-ID: <8CA00F194E7F6EA-734-44B6@webmail-md13.sysops.aol.com>

I'd be more concerned?about who is doing the bidding over what order the bidding is going down. The guy has two zero feedback bidders?who have?manipulated this auction along with the auction for?the 260Z. (U***S and O***R) It would appear that b***S is the only legitimite bidder for this car and is going to pay a bit more?and now?the seller has conveniently dropped his reserve to fit?precisely where the other two?shill bidders have?pushed him. In the old days you could email a potential buyer and warn them (even if you weren't involved with the auction) but ebay has conveniently decided that?letting people communicate?freely wasn't good for their bottom line. (Higher prices equal higher fee's) 

Jon Frampton
Huntington Beach 


-----Original Message-----
From: E Scanlon <escanlon at wa-net.com>
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along





Greg;
You're reading way too much into it.  The numerous bids are because of a 
prior bid that was higher than the incremental bids that were being made. 
It ~appears~ to be bad until you look at the time when each of the bids was 
made.  Those "upward bids" you refer to are just failed bids.

To simplify:

Bidder A places a $500 bid on an item that started at $1 at 0100 (1 am for 
you non-military types)
He will be the current winning bidder with a $1.00 bid

Bidder B places a $100 bid at 0200 (2 am) but will not overbid bidder A.
Auction will now show Bidder A with a $101 bid. (using a $1.00 bid 
increment) from the original 0100 bid

Bidder B places a $200 bid at 0215.  Again, not enough
Auction shows Bidder A with a $201 bid with an 0100 date stamp

Bidder B places a $600 bid at 0230 Now he's the current winning bidder.

Bids will read as follows on e-bay:

Bidder B $600 0230
Bidder A $500 0100
Bidder B $200 0215
Bidder B $100 0200
Start: $1.00

It appears as if Bidder B bid against himself to schill the bidding but he 
didn't.  Same with this auction.  u**s was upping their bid by $100 
increments every few minutes/seconds and b**s was using $1000 increments 
once a day. 
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From andycost at embarqmail.com  Thu Nov 29 16:01:07 2007
From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:01:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <8CA00F194E7F6EA-734-44B6@webmail-md13.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <23218876.580201196377267334.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com>

I second the motion that there is some shill bidding going on.  The bidder is making small bids up to the winning amount.  That way they will only be a few dollars higher than the real bidder.  When the auction ends the real bidder sees that the shill bidder bid incrementally and can guess how much to bid to win by a dollar.  I don't play that game.  When someone bids up an auction 30 times it is a clear sign that they are shill bidding.  My advise is to put in your max bid and stick with it.  If you get outbid then let the shill bidder have it.  The seller will have to pay fees and will lose in the long run.  The best way is to snipe the auction in the last 5 seconds if the shill bidders haven't run the price up already.

Andy

From d-solomon at comcast.net  Thu Nov 29 16:02:59 2007
From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:02:59 +0000
Subject: [Roadsters] e-bay
Message-ID: <112920072302.2971.474F452300083C7000000B9B22007503300201030104019CD30B@comcast.net>

very quietly then:  how 'bout a windsheild and its frame for a '66?

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From: 12061997 at comcast.net (Bob Ballinger, Muncie,Indiana) 

> Hi List, I guess I'm one of the few but I have never bought anything or listed 
> anything on e-bay and doubt I ever will..I have parts to sell but I'll wait 
> until someone on the lists that I know needs them.bob ballinger 67-1600, 
> muncie,in 
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From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Thu Nov 29 16:29:54 2007
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:29:54 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <172913.55405.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00a501c832df$bfd65650$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>

Look at the questions on the subject ebay item - they are pretty funny too.

Relative to "cute car"
My 70 Ivory colored roadster also wins the "cute car" accolades from the
females...one particularly "hot" female I work with calls it a "cream puff".
I really need to take her for a ride...that always brings on the fun.

My sisters refer to my Mexican orange 510 as "the clown car"

Some people just don't get it...LOL

"The universal female reaction to my Sora Blue 1970 2000 Roadster has always
been - and I quote - "What a cute car!". Oh well..."

From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com  Thu Nov 29 16:38:59 2007
From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:38:59 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Ebay Selling
In-Reply-To: <001d01c832b5$fb8e3750$0201a8c0@m7170n>
Message-ID: <00aa01c832e1$0445e8e0$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>

I buy and sell on eBay and use and allow Paypal payments.  It works very
well for me.  I actually had Paypal identify fraudulent transactions when I
was buying Chinese DVD's for xmas present and refund my money.

The only thing that is a little funky is that the money you get paid from
buyers stays in your paypal account (and earns a money market rates) until
you either spend it or request it.  I always spend it...I think that is part
of the "design".


I would like to hear the easy already tested tried and true from you that
have
already setup to allow buyers to use Paypal.

From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com  Thu Nov 29 16:41:42 2007
From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:41:42 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <00a501c832df$bfd65650$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
References: <00a501c832df$bfd65650$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR>
Message-ID: <474F4E36.3080801@hornesystemstx.com>

Once I drove my 67.5 1600 to a music festival I attend a couple time a 
year here in Texas. When I drove in to unload in the camping area a 
woman I knew was walking down the road, saw the Roadster and came 
running over to me, threw her arms around me and said "I love you". I 
had known her at the festival for about 10 years but this was the first 
time she saw the Roadster. I promised to take her for a ride the next 
day to go shopping in a town about 10 miles away over a really twisty 
road. Next day we headed out and had a great time.  She was a bit 
concerned that she wouldn't be able to fit in the car with me in it, she 
weighed about 300 lbs( her comment)! She fit in - barely and the car did 
lean to the right for the trip. I don't think it ever got off the rubber 
suppression bumpers but she had a blast. I think it took the Roadster a 
year or so to get over it! Later she told me that she really loved me 
for my car.

Peace,
Pat



Thusly spake Joe Russo:
> Look at the questions on the subject ebay item - they are pretty funny too.
>
> Relative to "cute car"
> My 70 Ivory colored roadster also wins the "cute car" accolades from the
> females...one particularly "hot" female I work with calls it a "cream puff".
> I really need to take her for a ride...that always brings on the fun.
>
> My sisters refer to my Mexican orange 510 as "the clown car"
>
> Some people just don't get it...LOL
>
> "The universal female reaction to my Sora Blue 1970 2000 Roadster has always
> been - and I quote - "What a cute car!". Oh well..."
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From JRDMF at aol.com  Thu Nov 29 20:54:37 2007
From: JRDMF at aol.com (JRDMF at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:54:37 EST
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
Message-ID: <c01.261c537d.3480e37d@aol.com>

Ahhhh, the other "C" word...... Can't hardly give the car a  bath without one 
of the neighbors going on about how "cute" it is but when  you're driving a 
car that comes in at a fraction of the weight of an SUV  then the cute card is 
bound to come into play. Sure like to hear how "cute" the  guy in a Corvette 
or Porsche thinks they are after getting their butt's handed  to them by Ron 
Hamilton's FJ or Phil Hall's car? :-)
 
Jon Frampton
Huntington Beach



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From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com  Thu Nov 29 21:27:50 2007
From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:27:50 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A257133@sbs.jdfogg.com>
References: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A257133@sbs.jdfogg.com>
Message-ID: <BAY106-W31CA4C43340035B8F32B78DF710@phx.gbl>

So I am 59+ - what I experience from the babe side is mostly from older
'babes' - and mostly it seems to me to be that isn't it fun that that old fart
is having fun driving his toy. Ocassionally I get 'interest' but it mostly
seems to be a mutual enjoyment of someone just enjoying themself.Peter1970 SPL
Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza)> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:20:35 -0500> From:
James at jdfogg.com> To: nmleeds at mindspring.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along>
> > I wonder if the girl comes with the car? Awesome modeling .> > . . makes
me think that I should upgrade my> > babe-magnet-daily-driver (rusty '88 honda
prelude) to a real> > babe attractor. Didn't they call it the "B210" because
"Babe> > 21" was to obvious?> > > I know it's not supposed to work this way,
but I found my 2006 Mustang> is the finest Babe Magnet I've ever been in.
Blows away everything I've> cruised, including Jags, Corvettes, Porsches,
Benzs and more (not all> were mine). I've stopped taking my wife for rides
because my shoulder> was getting bruised from her punching it when I smile
back. The day a> cutey leaned way out a McDonalds drivethrough to check out my
ride and> make sure I checked out her ride was too much. When the girl ditched
the> drivethrough to personally carside deliver the delayed food my wife was>
livid.> > My 66 Roadster performed amazingly well too, but it mostly brought>
questions about what it was. Most girls thought it was "cute", which can> be a
bad sign. I only had it on the road for 2 weeks before before> putting it back
in the barn. It's definatly in "pre-restoration" state.>
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From gsglasgow at comcast.net  Thu Nov 29 22:06:17 2007
From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:06:17 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <379980.18368.qm@web81413.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <NPEMKDINNFCDIIAIJECGEEHOENAA.gsglasgow@comcast.net>

Yeah, gettin' old is a bitch! I almost went to a concert a few weeks ago.
There's a hip-hop band from L.A. called Ozomatli that I really like. Their
music rocks and the lyrics are actually very positive.

But I know they usually get everyone up dancing. One time they led a line
out of the theater and into the street. Three of the band members got
arrested for obstructing traffic. They put out a t-shirt that said "Free the
Ozomatli 3." Anyway, I figured at age 59 and with a bad back, if I didn't
hurt myself, I would at least experience terminal embarrasment, so I took a
pass on it.

I probably shoulda gone anyway...

Gordon Glasgow
Renton, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Gary McCormick
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:01 AM
To: andycost at embarqmail.com; datsun-roadsters
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass
along


Oh, yeah - the "sir" thing. Definite buzzkill for us 40+(+)-yr old fellas...
(sigh).

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

andycost at embarqmail.com wrote: I thought I was getting checked out by some
cuties when I was driving my Supercharged MR2.  They motioned for me to roll
down the window.  I was pretty excited but didn't show it.  The young lady
said "Excuse me Sir, can you tell me how to get to the college campus?"  The
whole "Sir" thing ruined the fantasy.  I guess you can't be young forever.

Andy

From ppeters914 at comcast.net  Thu Nov 29 22:50:16 2007
From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:50:16 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass along
In-Reply-To: <474F12A9.5070603@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000801c83314$e525a070$6501a8c0@xp>

The same seller posted earlier this year selling a '64 1500. I believe he
unsubscribed from the list.

Sure can pick the eye candy...

-----Original Message-----
From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Brad Lustig
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 11:28 AM
To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] (OT) 1974 B210 on eBay - too funny not to pass
along


There's some different eye candy for that Z, too.  Someone other than 
the blond.  Me thinks somebody isn't on the up and up for some reason. Brad

jrdmf at aol.com wrote:
> If you take?it a step further?you'll?notice this?same seller had sold 
> a 260Z a while back and it looks like the same ebay user with zero 
> feedback had bumped that auction up too??(Surprise!) I used to take 
> the time to write?ebay about shill bidders like this?but have learned 
> the hard way that?ebay's policey toward any wrong doing?has more to do 
> with?finding better ways to collect their money than it?has to do 
> with?protecting ours. One more reason that forums like this have 
> become so invaluable for?anybody doing business on the internet.
>
> Jon Frampton
> Huntington Beach

From will-mart14 at cox.net  Thu Nov 29 22:47:24 2007
From: will-mart14 at cox.net (will-mart14 at cox.net)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:47:24 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] Tempe Listing
Message-ID: <20071130004724.HAMYU.180093.root@fed1wml02.mgt.cox.net>

Hey i have a 1600 rolling chassie with a "supposedly" rebuilt engine and s few parts in side (more details if interested). im going to put it up on craigs list for 800 bucks because i feel thats what i can get out of it. Thought i'd give you guys a chance at it first. Have a Nice Day.

William Martin Stanley

From mark at dealermats.com  Fri Nov 30 09:11:08 2007
From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:11:08 -0500
Subject: [Roadsters] Early Headrests on Ebay
Message-ID: <001201c8336b$9f708d90$81c2c74b@toshibauser>

This guy contacted me about listing early headrests on Ebay.  He has all parts
in 2 auctions, in very nice shape.  Good luck!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1967-5-Datsun-Roadster-Leather-Headrest_W0QQcm
dZViewItemQQcategoryZ33701QQihZ010QQitemZ200179563322QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Item number: 200179563322

From twobeaners at earthlink.net  Fri Nov 30 16:19:24 2007
From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:19:24 -0600
Subject: [Roadsters] Automotive Calculators
Message-ID: <001701c833a7$729e4870$6500a8c0@lap>

I wanted to share this, even though some folks on the list have probably seen
it already.

WARNING!! This site has a LOT of automotive calculators.

http://www.wallaceracing.com/Calculators.htm

Mike Hudson  '67 - Stroker / 5speed

From matt at vander-bend.com  Fri Nov 30 17:50:27 2007
From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:50:27 -0800
Subject: [Roadsters] cl-sfba
In-Reply-To: <474F4E36.3080801@hornesystemstx.com>
Message-ID: <PBEDIDPDDAGOBOBPMMADOEEFCIAA.matt@vander-bend.com>

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/car/494585052.html

not mine, but I wish I had room

From pjmill at sonic.net  Fri Nov 30 17:52:06 2007
From: pjmill at sonic.net (pjmill at sonic.net)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:52:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Roadsters] cl-sfba
In-Reply-To: <PBEDIDPDDAGOBOBPMMADOEEFCIAA.matt@vander-bend.com>
References: <PBEDIDPDDAGOBOBPMMADOEEFCIAA.matt@vander-bend.com>
Message-ID: <10094.151.151.21.100.1196470326.squirrel@webmail.sonic.net>

Gosh....  No kidding!  That baby is sweet!

> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/car/494585052.html
>
> not mine, but I wish I had room
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