From alvingogi at hotmail.com Sat Dec 1 01:43:02 2007 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 08:43:02 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] San Francisco Japantown - J's Gathering 1/13/08 - Roadsters Wanted! Message-ID: All,I have been contacted by the organizer of this show to invite some roadsters again for the Jan. 2008 show I got 6 roadsters to attend this show in 2005. It was fun! We actually won some trophies but left early, so Eric Gillis, Joe Kinstle, Fred Katz, Dan Zubkoff, and Matt Jacquet please come out again! After the show we drove out to the Marina to enjoy the sunshine and views. As added incentive, Ernersto(organizer) has promised me the following: "Normally it's $30 per car and I can do $15 per car if you get 5 or more! I will open up a [b]best Datsun Roadster award catagory of a 1st-3rd if at least 5 roadsters register and 1st-5th if 7+ register[/b]" So if you're into awards and a good time please come out, I will cover you reg fee if you can make it :wink: Pictures from last years show (click here):http://forums.club4ag.com/zerothread?id=15210 http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1258845246064815578DslhKD http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2276605250069324614PpZGwo http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2203833720084697152yRRRBW Here's some details about the show -January 13th, 200812pm-5pm San Francisco Japantown Mall Garage1660 Geary Blvd 94115 423 registered cars last year! Don't sleep on this event!**We will NOT be registering this many cars in 2008 - Only the first 300We want to give the registered cars more space for a nicer display NOR-CAL SO-CAL NEVADA GET TOGETHER - ALL IMPORTS INVITED - J's and EURO A GRAND TOTAL of 165 Awards! 1st - 5th places for over 20 categories alone! Pre-registration (BEFORE 12/31/07)$30 So-Cal/Nevada Pre-Reg = $15!!!!!!! (Let's Go So-Cal/LV and Reno Heads!) Registration $42Deadline (1/11/08 - Friday) Day-Of Registration (pending space) $50 **************************************************************** ***NO registrations will be accepted w/out payment (PAYPAL / MONEY ORDER / CC)NO ACCEPTIONS THIS YEAR! NO REFUNDS! **************************************************************** Staging groups:SUNDAY MORNING/DAY OF EVENT: Group # 1 = 7:00amGroup # 2 = 8:30am COMPLETE NAMEContact phone #Car make and model(no mods list)Crew/forum name (if any)Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista. + Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_M ediaCtr_bigscreen_102007 From boakes at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 06:55:30 2007 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 07:55:30 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60712010551wd3de9f2t644620ac6bcb0678@mail.gmail.com> References: <3ad057d60712010551wd3de9f2t644620ac6bcb0678@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3ad057d60712010555j4b95c1b4i1b7e73f32ff48597@mail.gmail.com> Happy Saturday, all, Forecasts for snow tonight, my long-injured-arm is healing and it's time to get back to work on the '68 2000 project. When we last left this project the car was painted, parts all cleaned, new rubber purchased and I was stuck on a wiper problem and a heater core repaired. The wipers are figured out (though, is there a way to test them before I put everything back together?). The heater core is repaired and ready to reassemble the heater box (David Butcher's site was great, but weren't there pictures before?) So, next up, ah.....the rest. I'm working without a working example of a car to look at, and mine came unassembled so I'm flying a little blind here. I'm the kind that needs visual clues. Does anyone know anything about this service manual on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-1500-1600-2000-Repair-Service-CD-Manual_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6762QQihZ001QQitemZ110198463504QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Thanks all. Bill Oakes '68 2000 Solex Libertyville, IL From fairlady66 at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 06:59:51 2007 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 05:59:51 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60712010555j4b95c1b4i1b7e73f32ff48597@mail.gmail.com> References: <3ad057d60712010551wd3de9f2t644620ac6bcb0678@mail.gmail.com> <3ad057d60712010555j4b95c1b4i1b7e73f32ff48597@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Bill, I asked that very question on the 311s site. Check out this link for my question and replies. http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6994 Good luck with your car and your arm... Chris On Dec 1, 2007 5:55 AM, Bill Oakes wrote: > Happy Saturday, all, > > Forecasts for snow tonight, my long-injured-arm is healing and it's > time to get back to work on the '68 2000 project. > > When we last left this project the car was painted, parts all cleaned, > new rubber purchased and I was stuck on a wiper problem and a heater > core repaired. > > The wipers are figured out (though, is there a way to test them before > I put everything back together?). > > The heater core is repaired and ready to reassemble the heater box > (David Butcher's site was great, but weren't there pictures before?) > > So, next up, ah.....the rest. > > I'm working without a working example of a car to look at, and mine > came unassembled so I'm flying a little blind here. I'm the kind that > needs visual clues. > > Does anyone know anything about this service manual on eBay: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-1500-1600-2000-Repair-Service-CD-Manual_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6762QQihZ001QQitemZ110198463504QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW > > Thanks all. > > Bill Oakes > '68 2000 Solex > Libertyville, IL > ________________________________________ > > fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Sat Dec 1 07:48:04 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 08:48:04 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60712010555j4b95c1b4i1b7e73f32ff48597@mail.gmail.com> References: <3ad057d60712010551wd3de9f2t644620ac6bcb0678@mail.gmail.com> <3ad057d60712010555j4b95c1b4i1b7e73f32ff48597@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47517424.5040906@hornesystemstx.com> Bill, If the main thing you need is information as to the order that parts go in in an assembly, take a look at the parts manual on 311s.org. As to service manuals, they were not that great when they were in print. I have a factory spl manual and it lacks so much that I hardly look at it. That said, and seeing what everyone else has said, I think I would bid on the eBay CD. If you don't have any service information, even a bad manual is better than none! While we are on the subject of service manuals, I recall that someone on this list published a multiple volume service manual a couple years ago. Did anyone pick up a copy? If so, how is the manual, and who was/is selling them? Peace, Pat Thusly spake Bill Oakes: > Happy Saturday, all, > > Forecasts for snow tonight, my long-injured-arm is healing and it's > time to get back to work on the '68 2000 project. > > When we last left this project the car was painted, parts all cleaned, > new rubber purchased and I was stuck on a wiper problem and a heater > core repaired. > > The wipers are figured out (though, is there a way to test them before > I put everything back together?). > > The heater core is repaired and ready to reassemble the heater box > (David Butcher's site was great, but weren't there pictures before?) > > So, next up, ah.....the rest. > > I'm working without a working example of a car to look at, and mine > came unassembled so I'm flying a little blind here. I'm the kind that > needs visual clues. > > Does anyone know anything about this service manual on eBay: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-1500-1600-2000-Repair-Service-CD-Manual_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6762QQihZ001QQitemZ110198463504QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW > > Thanks all. > > Bill Oakes > '68 2000 Solex > Libertyville, IL > ________________________________________ > > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From ljordan704 at netscape.net Sat Dec 1 09:52:34 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:52:34 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual In-Reply-To: <3ad057d60712010555j4b95c1b4i1b7e73f32ff48597@mail.gmail.com> References: <3ad057d60712010551wd3de9f2t644620ac6bcb0678@mail.gmail.com> <3ad057d60712010555j4b95c1b4i1b7e73f32ff48597@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CA0251B4BDF37E-9A0-3F05@webmail-de03.sysops.aol.com> Bill, Take a really good look at the 311 site. There is a WIKI tech section which has write-ups on different repairs. Also there is a list of parts which interchange with the Roadster parts under "Parts". And the "search" function? at the Discussion forum can help you find other posts, links, and pics for virtually every situation. If it could help me it can help anyone! Good luck! Linda -----Original Message----- From: Bill Oakes To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 5:55 am Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual Happy Saturday, all, Forecasts for snow tonight, my long-injured-arm is healing and it's time to get back to work on the '68 2000 project. When we last left this project the car was painted, parts all cleaned, new rubber purchased and I was stuck on a wiper problem and a heater core repaired. The wipers are figured out (though, is there a way to test them before I put everything back together?). The heater core is repaired and ready to reassemble the heater box (David Butcher's site was great, but weren't there pictures before?) So, next up, ah.....the rest. I'm working without a working example of a car to look at, and mine came unassembled so I'm flying a little blind here. I'm the kind that needs visual clues. Does anyone know anything about this service manual on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-1500-1600-2000-Repair-Service-CD-Manual_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6762QQihZ001QQitemZ110198463504QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Thanks all. Bill Oakes '68 2000 Solex Libertyville, IL ________________________________________ ljordan704 at netscape.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aimcmp00050000000001 From tom at datsun2000.com Sat Dec 1 12:18:05 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 11:18:05 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You can also download a 63 parts manual from my web site. I just found the link was not working and corrected the problem. You can download PDF files of specific sections, or the whole manual. Some of it is only for the 63, but much of what is here applies to later cars as well. Best of all.... It is free http://www.datsun2000.com/tech/1500_manual/ Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Chris & Christy Breyer Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 6:00 AM To: boakes at gmail.com Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual Hey Bill, I asked that very question on the 311s site. Check out this link for my question and replies. http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6994 Good luck with your car and your arm... Chris On Dec 1, 2007 5:55 AM, Bill Oakes wrote: > Happy Saturday, all, > > Forecasts for snow tonight, my long-injured-arm is healing and it's > time to get back to work on the '68 2000 project. > > When we last left this project the car was painted, parts all cleaned, > new rubber purchased and I was stuck on a wiper problem and a heater > core repaired. > > The wipers are figured out (though, is there a way to test them before > I put everything back together?). > > The heater core is repaired and ready to reassemble the heater box > (David Butcher's site was great, but weren't there pictures before?) > > So, next up, ah.....the rest. > > I'm working without a working example of a car to look at, and mine > came unassembled so I'm flying a little blind here. I'm the kind that > needs visual clues. > > Does anyone know anything about this service manual on eBay: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-1500-1600-2000-Repair-Service -CD-Manual_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6762QQihZ001QQitemZ110198463504QQrdZ1Q QsspagenameZWDVW > > Thanks all. > > Bill Oakes > '68 2000 Solex > Libertyville, IL http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From lars.tungen at abaris.no Sat Dec 1 14:09:48 2007 From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 22:09:48 +0100 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual In-Reply-To: <47517424.5040906@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <03bf01c8345e$817ef350$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> > While we are on the subject of service manuals, I recall that > someone on this list published a multiple volume service > manual a couple years ago. > Did anyone pick up a copy? If so, how is the manual, and who > was/is selling them? There is a multi-volume service and parts manual combined, up for sale on eBay right now: http://tinyurl.com/2uku7s Here's the official link: http://www.thedatsunroadsterbook.com/ There is also a parts catalog available at the following address: http://datsun311parts.tungen.net Lars Tungen, Norway No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.11/1161 - Release Date: 30.11.2007 12:12 From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 1 14:45:35 2007 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 13:45:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual Message-ID: <306488.70389.qm@web53512.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi everyone! I have purchased one of these from Ebay. The seller told me that it also contains a 234 page parts catalog for the 1964 SPL310. I've been looking for one of these for 20 years! Can't wait to see if it's true. Will leave feedback to anyone who is interested when it's received. Patti --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From bradandgayle at charter.net Sat Dec 1 17:52:22 2007 From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:52:22 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Texas Roadster club? Message-ID: <000901c8347d$998892c0$9b02a8c0@holmes> Does anyone know of a roadster club in Texas? Thanks Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, Alabama From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 1 18:20:41 2007 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 17:20:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Texas Roadster club? In-Reply-To: <000901c8347d$998892c0$9b02a8c0@holmes> Message-ID: <509640.84219.qm@web53509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Brad, Last I heard, the TDROC (Texas Datsun Roadsters Owner's Club), of which I'm a former member, is no longer in existence. Sorry I don't have more info. Patti Brad and Gayle Holmes wrote: Does anyone know of a roadster club in Texas? Thanks Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, Alabama ________________________________________ fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Sat Dec 1 18:32:34 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 19:32:34 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Texas Roadster club? In-Reply-To: <000901c8347d$998892c0$9b02a8c0@holmes> References: <000901c8347d$998892c0$9b02a8c0@holmes> Message-ID: <47520B32.8050804@hornesystemstx.com> I think most of the TDROC members Rae still here. I think most are on this list. I have all of the TDROC news letters and they contain email addresses of members, but as much as folks change email addresses, most of them are probably out of date. Is there someone in particular you are trying to get hold of? You can contact me off line if you like Peace, Pat pat at hornesystemstx.com Thusly spake Brad and Gayle Holmes: > Does anyone know of a roadster club in Texas? > > Thanks > > Brad Holmes > SEROC > Montgomery, Alabama > ________________________________________ > > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From bradandgayle at charter.net Sat Dec 1 19:19:46 2007 From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:19:46 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Texas Roadster club? References: <000901c8347d$998892c0$9b02a8c0@holmes> <47520B32.8050804@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <001301c83489$cee299a0$9b02a8c0@holmes> Thanks to all for the replies to my question. One of our SEROC members was inquiring about the club. I'll forward your emails to our member, thanks again! Brad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Horne" To: "Brad and Gayle Holmes" Cc: ; "Greg Hare" Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Texas Roadster club? >I think most of the TDROC members Rae still here. I think most are on this >list. I have all of the TDROC news letters and they contain email addresses >of members, but as much as folks change email addresses, most of them are >probably out of date. > > Is there someone in particular you are trying to get hold of? > > You can contact me off line if you like > > Peace, > Pat > pat at hornesystemstx.com > > > Thusly spake Brad and Gayle Holmes: >> Does anyone know of a roadster club in Texas? >> >> Thanks >> >> Brad Holmes >> SEROC >> Montgomery, Alabama >> ________________________________________ >> >> roadsters at hornesystemstx.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> >> > > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From fairlady66 at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 21:55:45 2007 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 20:55:45 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Texas Roadster club? In-Reply-To: <000901c8347d$998892c0$9b02a8c0@holmes> References: <000901c8347d$998892c0$9b02a8c0@holmes> Message-ID: I thought I heard of one in the Huston area.... On Dec 1, 2007 4:52 PM, Brad and Gayle Holmes wrote: > Does anyone know of a roadster club in Texas? > > Thanks > > Brad Holmes > SEROC > Montgomery, Alabama > ________________________________________ > > fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. From escanlon at wa-net.com Sat Dec 1 22:28:36 2007 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 21:28:36 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Vinyl Trim Query References: <000901c8347d$998892c0$9b02a8c0@holmes><47520B32.8050804@hornesystemstx.com> <001301c83489$cee299a0$9b02a8c0@holmes> Message-ID: <000a01c834a4$30c7cae0$0300a8c0@HPWIDESCREEN> I bought one of the Interior Vinyl Trim kits from Dean. See: (http://www.datsunparts.com/1832) for the picture. I thought it would be somewhat intuitive and easy to match up to my prior vinyl pieces however, I'm having a heck of a time making heads/tails out of what goes where. Part of this is due to the age of the original pieces, and that some of them have gone missing. The other part is that the new pieces seem to be very generously oversized. As such, I'm not sure where they're supposed to overlap and where the gaps are. Has anyone bought one of these kits and can help me ID what goes where? The picture shows 10 items (5 per side) I was hoping to get part of this done tomorrow. Thanks in advance; Enrique Scanlon From stebharvey at ameritech.net Sun Dec 2 03:44:18 2007 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 04:44:18 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question Message-ID: <016601c834d0$4b305600$0574fea9@steb1> Group, I purchased a new soft top and will be installing it on the top frame this winter. Several years ago I remember people discussing the fact that a defect in the sheet metal frame caused it to bend and thus not allow the top to be attached to the windshield frame correctly. I believe that a vendor repairs these. Any idea who that would be? Thanks Steve Harvey From lars.tungen at abaris.no Sun Dec 2 06:26:37 2007 From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 14:26:37 +0100 Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Vinyl Trim Query In-Reply-To: <000a01c834a4$30c7cae0$0300a8c0@HPWIDESCREEN> Message-ID: <016401c834e6$f7a83ea0$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> Maybe the floor trimming section of the parts manual can help: http://datsun311parts.tungen.net/311Parts/Body/FloorTrimming/tabid/278/Defau lt.aspx If the pieces in Dean's kit can be mathced to their corresponding keys in the fiigure, it would be possible to see where they should go. Lars Tungen Norway > -----Original Message----- > From: > datsun-roadsters-bounces+lars.tungen=abaris.no at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+lars.tungen=abaris.no at autox.t > eam.net] On Behalf Of E Scanlon > Sent: 2. desember 2007 06:29 > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Interior Vinyl Trim Query > > I bought one of the Interior Vinyl Trim kits from Dean. See: > (http://www.datsunparts.com/1832) for the picture. > > I thought it would be somewhat intuitive and easy to match up > to my prior vinyl pieces however, I'm having a heck of a time > making heads/tails out of what goes where. Part of this is > due to the age of the original pieces, and that some of them > have gone missing. The other part is that the new pieces > seem to be very generously oversized. As such, I'm not sure > where they're supposed to overlap and where the gaps are. > > Has anyone bought one of these kits and can help me ID what > goes where? > > The picture shows 10 items (5 per side) > > I was hoping to get part of this done tomorrow. > > Thanks in advance; > Enrique Scanlon > ________________________________________ > > lars.tungen at abaris.no > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1164 - Release > Date: 02.12.2007 11:30 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1164 - Release Date: 02.12.2007 11:30 From geegc at aol.com Sun Dec 2 09:17:31 2007 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2007 11:17:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question In-Reply-To: <016601c834d0$4b305600$0574fea9@steb1> References: <016601c834d0$4b305600$0574fea9@steb1> Message-ID: <8CA0315F9B7629C-13C-5486@MBLK-M21.sysops.aol.com> Les Canaday in Vista CA repairs them, I have the same pronblem Gary C -----Original Message----- From: steb To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 2:44 am Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question Group, I purchased a new soft top and will be installing it on the top frame this winter. Several years ago I remember people discussing the fact that a defect in the sheet metal frame caused it to bend and thus not allow the top to be attached to the windshield frame correctly. I believe that a vendor repairs these. Any idea who that would be? Thanks Steve Harvey ________________________________________ geegc at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003 From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 2 19:51:57 2007 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 18:51:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] San Francisco Japantown - J's Gathering 1/13/08 - Roadsters Wanted! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <639738.99650.qm@web81706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Alll, This is a great show!! Here are some photos of the BADROC roadsters and photos at the Marina. http://groups.msn.com/badroc/jdmtheory.msnw Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX (BADROC'r at heart) alvin gogineni wrote: All,I have been contacted by the organizer of this show to invite some roadsters again for the Jan. 2008 show I got 6 roadsters to attend this show in 2005. It was fun! We actually won some trophies but left early, so Eric Gillis, Joe Kinstle, Fred Katz, Dan Zubkoff, and Matt Jacquet please come out again! After the show we drove out to the Marina to enjoy the sunshine and views. As added incentive, Ernersto(organizer) has promised me the following: "Normally it's $30 per car and I can do $15 per car if you get 5 or more! I will open up a [b]best Datsun Roadster award catagory of a 1st-3rd if at least 5 roadsters register and 1st-5th if 7+ register[/b]" So if you're into awards and a good time please come out, I will cover you reg fee if you can make it :wink: Pictures from last years show (click here):http://forums.club4ag.com/zerothread?id=15210 http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1258845246064815578DslhKD http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2276605250069324614PpZGwo http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2203833720084697152yRRRBW Here's some details about the show -January 13th, 200812pm-5pm San Francisco Japantown Mall Garage1660 Geary Blvd 94115 423 registered cars last year! Don't sleep on this event!**We will NOT be registering this many cars in 2008 - Only the first 300We want to give the registered cars more space for a nicer display NOR-CAL SO-CAL NEVADA GET TOGETHER - ALL IMPORTS INVITED - J's and EURO A GRAND TOTAL of 165 Awards! 1st - 5th places for over 20 categories alone! Pre-registration (BEFORE 12/31/07)$30 So-Cal/Nevada Pre-Reg = $15!!!!!!! (Let's Go So-Cal/LV and Reno Heads!) Registration $42Deadline (1/11/08 - Friday) Day-Of Registration (pending space) $50 **************************************************************** ***NO registrations will be accepted w/out payment (PAYPAL / MONEY ORDER / CC)NO ACCEPTIONS THIS YEAR! NO REFUNDS! **************************************************************** Staging groups:SUNDAY MORNING/DAY OF EVENT: Group # 1 = 7:00amGroup # 2 = 8:30am COMPLETE NAMEContact phone #Car make and model(no mods list)Crew/forum name (if any)Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista. + Windows Live. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_M ediaCtr_bigscreen_102007 ________________________________________ zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From zubkoff at sbcglobal.net Sun Dec 2 20:03:42 2007 From: zubkoff at sbcglobal.net (Dan Zubkoff) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:03:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Houston, TX - Classic Japanese Car Gathering - Jan 26, 2008 Message-ID: <37462.70228.qm@web81705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Here's your chance.... The first Houston Classic Japanese Car Gathering: >>>SATURDAY, JANUARY 26TH, 2008<<< >>>LOCATION/HOST: PLANET ZERO - 12303 Westheimer Rd, Houston, TX 77077<<< >>>TIME: 7PM<<< Gathering of together of classic/nostalgic japanese imports. Location will be in Houston, TX & all surrounding TX, OK & LA cities are more than welcome to attend. Flyer: http://tinyurl.com/3xwkpl Forum Details: http://tinyurl.com/25se3h Dan Zubkoff Houston, TX From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sun Dec 2 20:53:36 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 19:53:36 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country - Peters whereabouts etc. Message-ID: Currently in Montgomery AL staying Sunday night with Brad & Gayle Holmes. Louis Kelly also came over and so we had 3 roadsters for lunch. Tmw heading via Tuscaloosa for Talahina Parkway run, then DFW ish, Hudson Oaks, TX, Tucson and LA. Have an exhaust leak and what appears to be a gearbox leak - somewhat of a pisser after only 5k. THAT will have to wait. Peter1970 SPL Roadster TOAD SAN (Eliza) 818 448 3181 From aultgc at jorsm.com Sun Dec 2 22:14:30 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 23:14:30 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual References: <3ad057d60712010551wd3de9f2t644620ac6bcb0678@mail.gmail.com> <3ad057d60712010555j4b95c1b4i1b7e73f32ff48597@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007101c8356b$62d97390$05a0aa42@gaxp1> Bill, I bought a copy of the CD, and found that it has the original Nissan Shop Manual, along with a lot of other information. You got some good advice fromothers to check out the 311s website, because what you will find there are the experiences of others who have "been there before". But, if you don't have a paper copy of the original Nissan manual of the Clymer reprint, the CD is a good investment at $20 plus shipping. The only technical resource I had for over 20 years was my Clymer manual (plus a photocopy of a dealer's parts book , purchased in 1971 when I bought my car. It's not very good, but is the only manual published. Scott Sheeler offers a two-volume set of books which incorporate many technical discussions and parts references. Gary Ault Around the corner from you in Schererville, Indiana (219) 322-1923 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Oakes" To: Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 7:55 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual > Happy Saturday, all, > > Forecasts for snow tonight, my long-injured-arm is healing and it's > time to get back to work on the '68 2000 project. > > When we last left this project the car was painted, parts all cleaned, > new rubber purchased and I was stuck on a wiper problem and a heater > core repaired. > > The wipers are figured out (though, is there a way to test them before > I put everything back together?). > > The heater core is repaired and ready to reassemble the heater box > (David Butcher's site was great, but weren't there pictures before?) > > So, next up, ah.....the rest. > > I'm working without a working example of a car to look at, and mine > came unassembled so I'm flying a little blind here. I'm the kind that > needs visual clues. > > Does anyone know anything about this service manual on eBay: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-1500-1600-2000-Repair-Service-CD-Manual_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6762QQihZ001QQitemZ110198463504QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW > > Thanks all. > > Bill Oakes > '68 2000 Solex > Libertyville, IL > ________________________________________ > > aultgc at jorsm.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gboone70 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 2 22:29:43 2007 From: gboone70 at yahoo.com (Gary Boone) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 21:29:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] EI Distributors - Passing the torch Message-ID: <781060.26181.qm@web36310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey roadster fans, Finally there is someone who is resuming my work with building the electronic distributors for the 1600 and 2000 roadsters. It's Dave Brisco (CC'd on this message). I prepared very detailed instructions and provided a sample distributor with lots of parts for Dave and he is ready to go. I'm confident that he will make a quality product. Again, thanks to everyone for your support. Gary Boone ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com Mon Dec 3 07:16:55 2007 From: Fergus.OFarrell at ngc.com (O'Farrell, Fergus) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 08:16:55 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: American vehicle parts source, newtakeoff.com Message-ID: Saw this in a local car ad rag, might be of use to some for their Non-Datsun (or for Eric and his 302 V8 roadster, although his time is being consumed by another project currently...hint, hint) A companyt that sells the 'new take off' parts when dealers do upgrades to brand new cars. Lotsa GM and Ford products. A Mustang GT front brake set (calipers, rotors, pads) for 149, brand new! http://www.newtakeoff.com/ From lars.tungen at abaris.no Mon Dec 3 12:13:12 2007 From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:13:12 +0100 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual In-Reply-To: <007101c8356b$62d97390$05a0aa42@gaxp1> Message-ID: <015101c835e0$8cf322f0$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> > I bought a copy of the CD, and found that it has the original > Nissan Shop Manual, along with a lot of other information. > You got some good advice fromothers to check out the 311s > website, because what you will find there are the experiences > of others who have "been there before". But, if you don't > have a paper copy of the original Nissan manual of the Clymer > reprint, the CD is a good investment at $20 plus shipping. Thanks to "Slowboy" / Jim , both the original Nissan shop manual and the Clymer reprint can be downloaded for free from the wiki tech section at 311s.org: http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.Manuals Instead of filling the closet with old-fashion CD's, you can fill your car with 20$ worth of gas and still get the info :) Lars Tungen Norway No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1167 - Release Date: 03.12.2007 12:20 From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Mon Dec 3 16:56:52 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:56:52 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: American vehicle parts source, newtakeoff.com In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <475497C4.1000702@hornesystemstx.com> There is also a company in North Texas that sells new parts for American cars up to 1972. They had a segment on it on the Texas Country Reporter. It's called Antique Auto in Arlington. According to the show he has 9 warehouses full of parts! I found their web site at http://www.antiqueautosupply.com. He buys discontinued/non-moving parts from dealers and parts houses and stores them. I wish I knew about him when I needed parts to rebuild a 41 Buick straight 8! Too bad he doesn't have Datsun parts too! Peace, Pat Thusly spake O'Farrell, Fergus: > Saw this in a local car ad rag, might be of use to some for their > Non-Datsun (or for Eric and his 302 V8 roadster, although his time is > being consumed by another project currently...hint, hint) > > A companyt that sells the 'new take off' parts when dealers do upgrades > to brand new cars. Lotsa GM and Ford products. > > A Mustang GT front brake set (calipers, rotors, pads) for 149, brand > new! > > http://www.newtakeoff.com/ > ________________________________________ > > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From 68roadster at charter.net Mon Dec 3 20:07:01 2007 From: 68roadster at charter.net (Dennis Louthan) Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:07:01 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] TIming chain replacement Message-ID: <4754C455.1070507@charter.net> Group, a friend of mine has a u20 and wants to replace the timing chain..... Now the question, can the timing chain be replaced without pulling the head, Taking for granted that the oil pan is dropped and the front timing cover removed. TIA, Dennis 68 Stroker Minden, NV From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Dec 3 20:20:50 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:50:50 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] TIming chain replacement In-Reply-To: <4754C455.1070507@charter.net> References: <4754C455.1070507@charter.net> Message-ID: <002d01c83624$b01e56c0$426fa8c0@desktop> I think you'll find that it is difficult to re-install the front cover with the head on. You have to slide it in under the head and head gasket without trashing the gasket. I don't have 1st hand exp. on the U20 but this is certainly true of the L series engines, which are of similar design. The U20 engine has a design which allows the head to be removed without removing the timing chain but not the reverse. "can the timing chain be replaced without pulling the head, Taking for granted that the oil pan is dropped and the front timing cover removed." No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.13/1165 - Release Date: 2/12/2007 8:34 PM From James at jdfogg.com Mon Dec 3 20:27:58 2007 From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 22:27:58 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] TIming chain replacement Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A257149@sbs.jdfogg.com> > Group, a friend of mine has a u20 and wants to replace the > timing chain..... > Now the question, can the timing chain be replaced without > pulling the head, Taking for granted that the oil pan is > dropped and the front timing cover removed. I don't know about the U20, but nearly all engines can have a chain replaced with only the front accessories, pulley and front cover(s) removed. Most chain-drive overhead cam designs require valve cover removal too. I once replaced a chain on a Chevy pushrod V8 in 2 hours. I can't think of a possible reason to remove a head for a chain, or a cam for that matter. Since the Japanese 4 cylinder heads are so small accessible I suppose removal isn't considered loathsome. Coming from an American car and truck background I avoid head removal whenever possible. A V6 or V8 head is a definitely more than a "6-pack" job. From tom at datsun2000.com Mon Dec 3 20:29:38 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom Hendricksen) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 19:29:38 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] TIming chain replacement In-Reply-To: <4754C455.1070507@charter.net> Message-ID: The short answer to your question is yes. The right answer will most likely require that you pull the head because it will be hard to put the timing chain cover back on without an oil leak between the head and timing cover. Maybe being forwarned about the head gasket damage that may be done while putting the timing cover on will allow you to figure out how to avoid the damage and the oil leak. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dennis Louthan Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 7:07 PM To: Datsun Roadster Group Subject: [Roadsters] TIming chain replacement Group, a friend of mine has a u20 and wants to replace the timing chain..... Now the question, can the timing chain be replaced without pulling the head, Taking for granted that the oil pan is dropped and the front timing cover removed. TIA, Dennis 68 Stroker Minden, NV From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 4 07:09:45 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 08:09:45 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] heater core References: <015101c835e0$8cf322f0$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> Message-ID: <001f01c83680$65702020$800101df@garage.local> according to the radiator shop, my heater core is non repairable. two questions: 1. are heater cores interchangeable across the line - this is from an early 1600 low windshield roadster 2. are there any substitutions? i didn't see anything on 311s.org, but i may have missed it From geegc at aol.com Tue Dec 4 10:12:23 2007 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:12:23 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] heater core In-Reply-To: <001f01c83680$65702020$800101df@garage.local> References: <015101c835e0$8cf322f0$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> <001f01c83680$65702020$800101df@garage.local> Message-ID: <8CA04AFF8B7075A-F18-4D2@webmailbeta-m02.sysops.aol.com> I recall, its been a long time, that I replaced my core in my 66 from two to three layers, so perhaps you can do the same. Gary C -----Original Message----- From: Oliver To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 6:09 am Subject: [Roadsters] heater core according to the radiator shop, my heater core is non repairable.? ? two questions:? ? 1. are heater cores interchangeable across the line - this is from an early 1600 low windshield roadster? ? 2. are there any substitutions? i didn't see anything on 311s.org, but i may have missed it ________________________________________ geegc at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003 From bubwin at mts.net Tue Dec 4 10:47:11 2007 From: bubwin at mts.net (Bubba) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:47:11 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] heater core In-Reply-To: <8CA04AFF8B7075A-F18-4D2@webmailbeta-m02.sysops.aol.com> References: <015101c835e0$8cf322f0$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL><001f01c83680$65702020$800101df@garage.local> <8CA04AFF8B7075A-F18-4D2@webmailbeta-m02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2F063449690247E59E991B00A0FFA536@ctmPC> Non repairable, might mean they cannot solder a hole which is usually because the brass is deteriorated too far and the repair will just move the leak to the edge of the solder repair. Can the rad shop make a new one? A good (willing and not disinterested) rad shop can remove the ends if they are servicable, and install new cores. The cores are purchased in blocks, which are cut to the size needed then soldered to the old tanks. If the tanks are bad, only the best shops would bother to make new ones, and then it gets expensive. I had one made years ago for my 1959 GMC Pickup tanks and all, and because the brass for the new tanks was new and thicker, it outlasted the rest of the truck. Good luck Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] heater core >I recall, its been a long time, that I replaced my core in my 66 from two >to three layers, so perhaps you can do the same. > > Gary C > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Oliver > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 6:09 am > Subject: [Roadsters] heater core > > > according to the radiator shop, my heater core is non repairable.? > ? > two questions:? > ? > 1. are heater cores interchangeable across the line - this is from an > early 1600 low windshield roadster? > ? > 2. are there any substitutions? i didn't see anything on 311s.org, but i > may have missed it > > > ________________________________________ > > geegc at aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003 > ________________________________________ > > bubwin at mts.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Tue Dec 4 11:17:30 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:17:30 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] heater core In-Reply-To: <2F063449690247E59E991B00A0FFA536@ctmPC> References: <015101c835e0$8cf322f0$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL><001f01c83680$65702020$800101df@garage.local><8CA04AFF8B7075A-F18-4D2@webmailbeta-m02.sysops.aol.com> <2F063449690247E59E991B00A0FFA536@ctmPC> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76367F8C@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> I remember back in the day, the radiator shops built their own cores from tubing and rolls of copper in which they ran through a machine to press it into the fins. I thought I found a shop here in town that an old guy ran that could build cores. I needed a new radiator for my 46 Ford tractor. He no longer built cores and buys them as Bob was saying. The labor is just too high. So, I bought a radiator from China for half the core replacement charge. Which brings up another point. Labor in the US has gotten very high. Try having a car painted, worked on, or components rebuilt, the cost is crazy. People approach me on a weekly basis to help them do simple repairs on their older cars. The cost to have a shop do it often outweighs the value of the car. So, my driveway always has a car in it for repairs which I do only for the cost of parts (doing an engine rebuild in a '98 Blazer now - two valve cover gasket replacements in the wings). Will we see the costs go so high that we may see the craftsmen come back to rebuild and just not R&R? I hope we see the craftsmen come back. I have great memories of Richard Crowley at 80 years old rebuilding my alternators and starters in his dirt floor little shop and the cost was half if you stayed and talked to him as he worked on your stuff. In the meantime, help others out with your talents - it will go further then you think. Have a great day everyone! Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bubba Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:47 AM To: sumton at sbcglobal.net; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net; geegc at aol.com Subject: Re: [Roadsters] heater core Non repairable, might mean they cannot solder a hole which is usually because the brass is deteriorated too far and the repair will just move the leak to the edge of the solder repair. Can the rad shop make a new one? A good (willing and not disinterested) rad shop can remove the ends if they are servicable, and install new cores. The cores are purchased in blocks, which are cut to the size needed then soldered to the old tanks. If the tanks are bad, only the best shops would bother to make new ones, and then it gets expensive. I had one made years ago for my 1959 GMC Pickup tanks and all, and because the brass for the new tanks was new and thicker, it outlasted the rest of the truck. Good luck Bob Winslade 1966-1600 Missy 1967-1600 Bender ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] heater core >I recall, its been a long time, that I replaced my core in my 66 from two >to three layers, so perhaps you can do the same. > > Gary C From tputland at charter.net Tue Dec 4 11:35:14 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:35:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Share your talents!--was Heater Cores In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76367F8C@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: <20071204133514.MY3LE.74883.root@fepweb06> Phil said: "In the meantime, help others out with your talents - it will go further then you think." I say Amen to that!!! I don't have time (or they are not offered at night or on weekends) to take the classes I want at the Tech College in Madison and I would pay real good money for someone to show/teach me how to do some of the stuff I need to know to work on our/my little toys!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Tue Dec 4 12:11:53 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:11:53 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Share your talents!--was Heater Cores In-Reply-To: <20071204133514.MY3LE.74883.root@fepweb06> References: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76367F8C@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> <20071204133514.MY3LE.74883.root@fepweb06> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF76367FE0@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Good point Tim. One thing I do is insist the owner help. Most jump at the chance to learn more about cars so they are not so dependent on the shops. To bad you live close to Madison WI and not Madison AL:) -----Original Message----- From: Tim [mailto:tputland at charter.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:35 PM To: Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03); datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Share your talents!--was Heater Cores Phil said: "In the meantime, help others out with your talents - it will go further then you think." I say Amen to that!!! I don't have time (or they are not offered at night or on weekends) to take the classes I want at the Tech College in Madison and I would pay real good money for someone to show/teach me how to do some of the stuff I need to know to work on our/my little toys!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From sog891 at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 12:43:49 2007 From: sog891 at gmail.com (Pete Kandratieff) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 11:43:49 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Front sway bar pillars Message-ID: <4719ff960712041143kad83570g5d993440707b37b5@mail.gmail.com> Hello, All. My '69 2000 's in need of both, drivers and passenger side, front sway bar pillars. I recently learned it was hit on the front drivers side corner, low enough to take out the drivers side pillar, which was poorly welded/aligned back onto the frame by PO, and bent the pass. side pillar. Ideally, the replacement pillars should be cut out of the donor frame with pillar welds still intact for sake of better transfer to my frame, right? Can someone help? I'm not a welder so any suggestions would be great. Thank you. Peter Oregon From tom at datsun2000.com Tue Dec 4 13:22:11 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:22:11 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Front sway bar pillars In-Reply-To: <4719ff960712041143kad83570g5d993440707b37b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Peter, What part of Oregon are you in? I have the front section of a frame I need to strip some parts off of. I would have to look but I bet what you need is there. You are welcome to the frame section if it will give you what you want. Get back to me and lets see if/when we can get together. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pete Kandratieff Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:44 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Front sway bar pillars Hello, All. My '69 2000 's in need of both, drivers and passenger side, front sway bar pillars. I recently learned it was hit on the front drivers side corner, low enough to take out the drivers side pillar, which was poorly welded/aligned back onto the frame by PO, and bent the pass. side pillar. Ideally, the replacement pillars should be cut out of the donor frame with pillar welds still intact for sake of better transfer to my frame, right? Can someone help? I'm not a welder so any suggestions would be great. Thank you. Peter Oregon ________________________________________ From daveandlindab at comcast.net Tue Dec 4 17:02:01 2007 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 19:02:01 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Share your talents!--was Heater Cores In-Reply-To: <20071204133514.MY3LE.74883.root@fepweb06> Message-ID: <000001c836d2$106cd8a0$6600a8c0@chrissy> Most of what I know cane from just doing it. I did go to tech school, worked in shops for years, but the school is great for backround knowledge, real world is get in there and do it. Obviously start slow, be safe, but 90% of the mistakes will be inexpensive and a learning experience. The best investment is good tools and an organised place to keep them. The Mid Winter Secular Holiday of your Personal Choosing (Christmas for the non politically correct)is coming, get tools, not Ipods. The right tools are cheaper in the end than the parts you destroy. My father was a machinist and former mechanic (B-24 and B29's), and best things I learned from him were use the proper tool for the job, always use sharp drill bits, don't be afraid to try to fix ANYTHING and improvise only when needed to get the car home. Oh, and how to put on Band-Aids and how to tell if you REALLY need stitches. Dave Phil said: "In the meantime, help others out with your talents - it will go further then you think." I say Amen to that!!! I don't have time (or they are not offered at night or on weekends) to take the classes I want at the Tech College in Madison and I would pay real good money for someone to show/teach me how to do some of the stuff I need to know to work on our/my little toys!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From aultgc at jorsm.com Tue Dec 4 21:29:58 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 22:29:58 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] heater core References: <015101c835e0$8cf322f0$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> <001f01c83680$65702020$800101df@garage.local> Message-ID: <00a101c836f7$7f7a1b70$03a0aa42@gaxp1> Oliver, Nissan shows different part numbers for high-windshield and low-windshield cars, and indicates the high-windshield part is not interchangeable with the low-windshield part. That said, if the inlet and outlet nozzles are in slightly different positions, or there is some other difference not related to the core itself, the parts would be considered "not interchangeable". It is entirely possible, maybe even likely, that that the cores themselves can be interchanged if the heater core assembly is taken apart. If no one on the list knows, I'll bet Dann Bramhall or Mike Young would know, and have used parts available. Or Ross Mullen. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: [Roadsters] heater core > according to the radiator shop, my heater core is non repairable. > > two questions: > > 1. are heater cores interchangeable across the line - this is from an > early > 1600 low windshield roadster > > 2. are there any substitutions? i didn't see anything on 311s.org, but i > may have missed it > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ________________________________________ > > aultgc at jorsm.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From aultgc at jorsm.com Tue Dec 4 21:48:28 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 22:48:28 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] TIming chain replacement References: <4754C455.1070507@charter.net> Message-ID: <00c501c836fa$149852b0$03a0aa42@gaxp1> Dennis, As originaly fitted, the front of the block on U20s has two short locator pins which the timing cover fits over. Also, as originally fitted out, the top of the timing cover has two studs which are used to secure the top of the cover to the head. I've seen those studs replaced with 6mm hex bolts, but I consider this to be a bad idea, as it is easy to strip the threads in the timing cover. I replaced the four hex bolts in the bottom of my timing cover with studs, as well. If the U20 you are speaking of has studs, you'll need to pull them before you pull the timing cover. The chances of damaging the front part of the head gasket and/or the oil pan gasket during front cover removal are high, in my view. But, that can be rectified with Permatex sealant with copper. When I replaced my chains, I followed the procedure in the shop manual, and pulled the head. (And, learned a little lesson about the 6mm bolt which holds the upper chain guide to the head, and what happens you one fails to recognize its presence, and gets impatient when the head doesn't come off...) Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Louthan" <68roadster at charter.net> To: "Datsun Roadster Group" Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: [Roadsters] TIming chain replacement > Group, a friend of mine has a u20 and wants to replace the timing > chain..... > Now the question, can the timing chain be replaced without pulling the > head, > Taking for granted that the oil pan is dropped and the front timing > cover removed. > > TIA, > Dennis > 68 Stroker > Minden, NV > ________________________________________ > > aultgc at jorsm.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From selequin at dcc-services.com Tue Dec 4 22:10:27 2007 From: selequin at dcc-services.com (Scott Elequin) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 23:10:27 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] A Few Good Parts Message-ID: Folks, After 15 years of being in storage, I'm about to get my 67.5 back on the road. A few things I may need: A clean copy of a wiring diagram. I found one on 311.org, but it looks like it may have a couple of issues. If you have an original copy, or one from a different source, I'd love to see it. A good used Amp Meter, or information on who I can get to rebuild mine Thanks in advance! I can't wait to get back on the road! Scott From slowboy at cox.net Tue Dec 4 23:58:27 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 23:58:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] A Few Good Parts References: Message-ID: <000f01c8370c$3cf714a0$0201a8c0@m7170n> Scott, Scott, Scott, I'm going to send you back to 311s where you can see a copy of the 67.5 owners manual. Page 18 of the owners manual and page 21 of the PDF page lister. http://www.311s.org/PDFs/OM1967_5DatsunSportsLRG.pdf Use the PDF reader to blow up the section you need to study. Hope this helps. Thanks Steve for sharing that copy. SlowBoy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Elequin" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 10:10 PM Subject: [Roadsters] A Few Good Parts > Folks, > > After 15 years of being in storage, I'm about to get my 67.5 back on the > road. A few things I may need: > > A clean copy of a wiring diagram. I found one on 311.org, but it looks > like it may have a couple of issues. If you have an original copy, or > one from a different source, I'd love to see it. > A good used Amp Meter, or information on who I can get to rebuild mine > > Thanks in advance! I can't wait to get back on the road! Scott > ________________________________________ From mark at dealermats.com Wed Dec 5 06:53:14 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 08:53:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ampmeter suggestion References: Message-ID: <001f01c83746$30221ec0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Stewert Warner makes an ampmeter that is very close to original, close enough for most people at $26. Summit racing has it here: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SWW%2D82200&N=700+115&autoview=sku ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Elequin" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:10 AM Subject: [Roadsters] A Few Good Parts > Folks, > > After 15 years of being in storage, I'm about to get my 67.5 back on the > road. A few things I may need: > > A clean copy of a wiring diagram. I found one on 311.org, but it looks > like it may have a couple of issues. If you have an original copy, or > one from a different source, I'd love to see it. > A good used Amp Meter, or information on who I can get to rebuild mine > > Thanks in advance! I can't wait to get back on the road! Scott > ________________________________________ > > mark at dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From DC at ClassicRacingPhotos.com Wed Dec 5 11:50:41 2007 From: DC at ClassicRacingPhotos.com (Dennis Currington) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:50:41 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] new BRE website launched! Message-ID: <4756F301.4090800@ClassicRacingPhotos.com> After years of waiting, the wait is over. Peter Brock and his wife Gayle have launched their new website with all the great photos and info we all have been wanting to see for years. The site is in its infancy and Gayle is adding new stuff daily but is definitely worth a visit at this point. Dennis Here is an excerpt from the site announcing the launch: Peter Brock and his wife and business partner, Gayle Brock, launch their website, BRE2.net. "This has been Gayle's vision for years" shares Mr. Brock. "It started years ago when she began archiving all the BRE photos, press releases, posters, apparel, and a wide array of other artifacts. Then we started designing and producing parts and accessories for my redesign of the Cobra Daytona Coupe, the Coupe now sold by Superformance. Gayle was sending out images and price lists of our parts via e-mail. Having a background in computers, it wasn't too long before the benefits of a website became startlingly apparent to her." From Gayle's perspective:. "Knowing what great eye candy exists in the BRE archives and the great stories Peter has to share, I couldn't resist combining the old with the new on our BRE website. It's been a very ambitious project but a pure labor of love for me. It's a project that will continue to evolve as more BRE products come out (the upcoming remote control models of the BRE Datsun 510s are the coolest and models of the BRE Datsun 240Zs and BRE Datsun 2000s will follow) and more archive photos and stories will be posted. It'll be an ever-changing site with the goal that BRE and Coupe fans everywhere can get more information from, and about, BRE on an ongoing basis." The Brocks explain the website name as two-fold: First, the "2" in BRE2 represents the partnership Gayle and Peter enjoy in all things, business and personal. Second, BRE2 denotes the resurrection of the original mid-`60s BRE with a goal of sharing their archives with fans, having easy access to the parts and accessories they provide for the Coupes, providing new BRE related products such as upcoming models of the BRE Datsun race cars and a line of apparel and merchandise. Ultimately the Brock's will also make available more of their photographic work from their photojournalism business. Whether it be BRE products, Coupe products, photographs, apparel, merchandise or stories, it will be worth coming back again and again to BRE2.net. From daveandlindab at comcast.net Wed Dec 5 15:54:12 2007 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 17:54:12 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ampmeter suggestion In-Reply-To: <001f01c83746$30221ec0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <000001c83791$c2121650$6600a8c0@chrissy> If it were me, unless you want to be absolutly stock, I would put a 30 or 40 amp fuse or breaker where the amp gauge was in the wire harness and install a volt gauge. Less hassle, more information. Mark wrote Stewert Warner makes an ampmeter that is very close to original, close enough for most people at $26. Summit racing has it here: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SWW%2D82200&N =700+115&autoview=sku ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Elequin" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:10 AM Subject: [Roadsters] A Few Good Parts > Folks, > > After 15 years of being in storage, I'm about to get my 67.5 back on > the road. A few things I may need: > > A clean copy of a wiring diagram. I found one on 311.org, but it > looks like it may have a couple of issues. If you have an original > copy, or one from a different source, I'd love to see it. A good used > Amp Meter, or information on who I can get to rebuild mine > > Thanks in advance! I can't wait to get back on the road! Scott > ________________________________________ > > mark at dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From graemes at internode.on.net Wed Dec 5 16:19:28 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:49:28 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Ampmeter suggestion In-Reply-To: <000001c83791$c2121650$6600a8c0@chrissy> References: <001f01c83746$30221ec0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> <000001c83791$c2121650$6600a8c0@chrissy> Message-ID: <000001c83795$4aa71da0$426fa8c0@desktop> Tend to disagree on the ammeter V voltmeter comment. You can still insert the maxi fuse as mentioned, strongly recommend that! The fuse is there to protect the wiring, it is therefore essential to be rated correctly for the wire gauge used. Also, fit the fuse at the alternator, so that the maximum length of wiring is protected by it. It is a series circuit true, and electrically it matters not where the fuse is, but for maximum protection of the wiring, it should be at the start of the run. If you read the ammeter carefully it will tell you the state of the charging system better than a voltmeter. The ammeter, being a centre zero device, is very sensitive to current direction as well as amount. That is what you need to know. Of course the two gauges fitted as a pair is an excellent solution. "If it were me, unless you want to be absolutly stock, I would put a 30 or 40 amp fuse or breaker where the amp gauge was in the wire harness and install a volt gauge. Less hassle, more information." No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1171 - Release Date: 4/12/2007 7:31 PM From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Dec 5 16:48:41 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:48:41 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Ampmeter suggestion Message-ID: <120520072348.3109.475738D9000D85D700000C252213528573CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Silly.....the ammeter -IS- the 30A fuse. Pete "feelin' froggy on Wednesday" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "dave" > If it were me, unless you want to be absolutly stock, I would put a 30 or 40 > amp fuse or breaker where the amp gauge was in the wire harness and install > a volt gauge. Less hassle, more information. > > > Mark wrote > > Stewert Warner makes an ampmeter that is very close to original, close > enough for most people at $26. Summit racing has it here: > > http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SWW%2D82200&N > =700+115&autoview=sku > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Elequin" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:10 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] A Few Good Parts > > > > Folks, > > > > After 15 years of being in storage, I'm about to get my 67.5 back on > > the road. A few things I may need: > > > > A clean copy of a wiring diagram. I found one on 311.org, but it > > looks like it may have a couple of issues. If you have an original > > copy, or one from a different source, I'd love to see it. A good used > > Amp Meter, or information on who I can get to rebuild mine > > > > Thanks in advance! I can't wait to get back on the road! Scott > > ________________________________________ > > > > mark at dealermats.com > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > > ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Wed Dec 5 18:34:43 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:34:43 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] A Few Good Parts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <475751B3.7020605@hornesystemstx.com> Scott, There are a couple ways to go that, though not stock, will look original to the untrained person. This only works for the 67.5 ammeter because it is paired with another gauge in one case. If you want to stick with an ammeter, find the ammeter that fits a 240Z or 260z. They need a plastic spacer installed behind them so they fit the Roadster gauge housing, but it works fine. The difference between these ammeters and the Roadster ammeter is that the Z ammeters are higher amperage, just right if you have upgraded the alternator. They also use studs for connections instead of the problematic 1/4" spades that the Roadster uses. The final option is to find the volt meter out of a 280Z. It also will fit inside the 67.5 gauge case. In addition to the volt meter, there is a light that is the idiot light that most cars have gone to instead of a gauge. With the volt meter to tell what the system voltage is, and a light to tell you whether the alternator is working or not, you should be fine. I purchased Z ammeters and voltmeters on eBay for less than $20 each, quite a bit cheaper than a Roadster gauge! Peace, Pat Thusly spake Scott Elequin: > Folks, > > After 15 years of being in storage, I'm about to get my 67.5 back on the > road. A few things I may need: > > A clean copy of a wiring diagram. I found one on 311.org, but it looks > like it may have a couple of issues. If you have an original copy, or > one from a different source, I'd love to see it. > A good used Amp Meter, or information on who I can get to rebuild mine > > Thanks in advance! I can't wait to get back on the road! Scott > ________________________________________ > > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From jrdmf at aol.com Wed Dec 5 09:54:13 2007 From: jrdmf at aol.com (jrdmf at aol.com) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:54:13 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ampmeter suggestion In-Reply-To: <001f01c83746$30221ec0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> References: <001f01c83746$30221ec0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <8CA05769980CC24-13E8-9A11@webmail-md01.sysops.aol.com> The amp gauge for the 67.5 cars are clustered with the fuel indicator so a single amp?gauge will not work. You can tear apart the Stewart Warner gauge and try to make it fit in the roadster case but it's a sketchy fit at best and the cosmetics will leave little to be desired. Best bet is to either find a donor gauge with a known good amp section?and swap it out or have the original repaired by a reputable instrument shop. Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca -----Original Message----- From: Mark Dent To: Scott Elequin ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 5:53 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ampmeter suggestion Stewert Warner makes an ampmeter that is very close to original, close enough for most people at $26. Summit racing has it here: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SWW%2D82200&N=700+115&autoview=sku ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003 From daveandlindab at comcast.net Thu Dec 6 20:33:33 2007 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:33:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Ampmeter suggestion In-Reply-To: <8CA05769980CC24-13E8-9A11@webmail-md01.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000001c83881$f33ac1f0$6600a8c0@chrissy> Didn't realise it was a double gauge, would be better stock with the fuse. Dave Brisco Jon Wrote The amp gauge for the 67.5 cars are clustered with the fuel indicator so a single amp?gauge will not work. You can tear apart the Stewart Warner gauge and try to make it fit in the roadster case but it's a sketchy fit at best and the cosmetics will leave little to be desired. Best bet is to either find a donor gauge with a known good amp section?and swap it out or have the original repaired by a reputable instrument shop. Jon Frampton Huntington Beach Ca -----Original Message----- From: Mark Dent To: Scott Elequin ; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 5:53 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Ampmeter suggestion Stewert Warner makes an ampmeter that is very close to original, close enough for most people at $26. Summit racing has it here: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SWW%2D82200&N =700+115&autoview=sku ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aol cmp00050000000003 From jake7140 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 6 21:04:45 2007 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:04:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] 67.5 dash twisties In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <131416.36174.qm@web37913.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Someone was looking for some I think, there are 4 on ebay now for $10. Item number: 260190166188 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-1967-5-dash-twisties-Set-of-4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ40017QQihZ016QQitemZ260190166188QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home www.elrss.com From jake7140 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 6 21:08:52 2007 From: jake7140 at yahoo.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 20:08:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Talent sharing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <919031.39105.qm@web37914.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey Tim, I'll be building a race engine with another roadster racer in Madison over the winter. I'm sure he'd enjoy the extra company. Steve Racine, WI ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 13:35:14 -0500 > From: Tim > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Share your talents!--was Heater Cores > To: "Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)" , > "datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net" > > Message-ID: <20071204133514.MY3LE.74883.root at fepweb06> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Phil said: > > "In the meantime, help others out with your talents - it will go > further then you think." > > I say Amen to that!!! > > I don't have time (or they are not offered at night or on weekends) > to take the classes I want at the Tech College in Madison and I > would pay real good money for someone to show/teach me how to do > some of the stuff I need to know to work on our/my little toys!! > > Tim > Belleville, WI. > '70 SPL AND SRL > Still clueless but always learning > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > End of Datsun-roadsters Digest, Vol 1, Issue 198 > ************************************************ > Steve Steve's Racing web site www.NoNameRacing.com Elkhart Lake Racing & Sipping Society home www.elrss.com From twobeaners at earthlink.net Thu Dec 6 21:22:00 2007 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 22:22:00 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Wanted: Early (low windshield) 4-speed shifter cover plate Message-ID: <011401c83888$b6679ad0$6500a8c0@lap> Wanted: I'm needing an early 1600 4-speed shifter hole cover plate, (the part with the chrome edge that the rubber shift boot goes into). Thanks to all, Mike Hudson '67 - 1600 From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Dec 7 06:50:10 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 08:50:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Travel Emergency list? Message-ID: <015401c838d8$4c65f1e0$9821ffd8@hpcustomer> Some where out there we used to have a travel emergency listing of roadster/Datsun owners across the USA that were open to helping travelers in need. I need to find it again and do a change of address. TIA, Paul Ohio From tputland at charter.net Fri Dec 7 07:05:41 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 6:05:41 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Travel Emergency list? In-Reply-To: <015401c838d8$4c65f1e0$9821ffd8@hpcustomer> Message-ID: <20071207090541.LZ7IL.134416.root@fepweb04> Hey Paul. Can you forward that list to me? We might take a run down to FL to see some friends next year. Thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: ============= Some where out there we used to have a travel emergency listing of roadster/Datsun owners across the USA that were open to helping travelers in need. I need to find it again and do a change of address. TIA, Paul Ohio ________________________________________ tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From matt at vander-bend.com Fri Dec 7 09:44:39 2007 From: matt at vander-bend.com (Matt Jacquet) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 08:44:39 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] cl-sacto In-Reply-To: <011401c83888$b6679ad0$6500a8c0@lap> Message-ID: Not mine, but what a nice "stocking stuffer" http://sacramento.craigslist.org/car/494401041.html From tom at datsun2000.com Fri Dec 7 11:41:29 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 10:41:29 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Travel Emergency list? In-Reply-To: <015401c838d8$4c65f1e0$9821ffd8@hpcustomer> Message-ID: Paul, The current list, and Cal Speeds original list are hosted on the NOWROC home page. http://www.nowroc.org/emergency_garages.htm If anybody needs to make changes or add themselves to the current list send me a note and I will be more than happy to update the list. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.nowroc.org http://www.datsun2000.com -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 5:50 AM To: Roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] Travel Emergency list? Some where out there we used to have a travel emergency listing of roadster/Datsun owners across the USA that were open to helping travelers in need. I need to find it again and do a change of address. TIA, Paul Ohio ________________________________________ From d-solomon at comcast.net Fri Dec 7 13:42:42 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:42:42 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Travel Emergency list? Message-ID: <120720072042.13713.4759B0420003E23A0000359122007614380201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> Tom: You could add me to the Emergency list for Utah. I'm in the Salt Lake City metro area. Plenty of tools. Fair amount of know how. A trailer and a heated garage. I'll help if I can. Dan 801-635-4024 -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" > Paul, > > The current list, and Cal Speeds original list are hosted on the NOWROC home > page. > > http://www.nowroc.org/emergency_garages.htm > > If anybody needs to make changes or add themselves to the current list send > me a note and I will be more than happy to update the list. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.nowroc.org > http://www.datsun2000.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Paul > Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 5:50 AM > To: Roadsters > Subject: [Roadsters] Travel Emergency list? > > > Some where out there we used to have a travel emergency listing of > roadster/Datsun owners across the USA that were open to helping travelers in > need. I need to find it again and do a change of address. > > TIA, > > Paul > Ohio > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > > d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Dec 7 16:16:44 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 18:16:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Travel Emergency list? References: Message-ID: <000601c83927$3badc1d0$850b8318@craigscomputer> Hi Tom, I went thru the NOWROC site to add myself to the list, used to be on a list somewhere that had numbers 1 to 4 to indicate what kind of tools or accomodations we had available. tools for most roadster needs and a guest bed in the loft...fairly good parts availability too ;-) Craig Halsted Virginia From roadster68 at shaw.ca Fri Dec 7 16:34:05 2007 From: roadster68 at shaw.ca (Larry Dziuba) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2007 16:34:05 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question References: <016601c834d0$4b305600$0574fea9@steb1> <8CA0315F9B7629C-13C-5486@MBLK-M21.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <001d01c83929$a84fe5f0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp> I had my top finished earlier this year and it has been a pain to do up every time. One of the vendors warned me that if there is a crease in the bow then there it should be repaired. I had it stripped of paint and noted a tiny crease and decided to leave it. I have the good cloth top on now and could barely get the top to buckle down without the front rubber seal. You could see more of a gap and daylight in the windshield centre. Mannnnnnn!!!! With the seal on it is impossible to do. Someone suggested taking the bow with the top still in place and trying to gently bang out the center bend. I think that if the crease is there that the bend would only come back. I would probably damage the cloth top and put dents in the bow top too. A vendor told me that these tops have always been B____ to buckle down. True? Should I just take the cloth off and send it to a vendor to fix? Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question > Les Canaday in Vista CA repairs them, I have the same pronblem > > Gary C > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: steb > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 2:44 am > Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question > > > > > > > > > > > Group, > > I purchased a new soft top and will be installing it on the top frame > this winter. Several years ago I remember people discussing the fact > that a defect in the sheet metal frame caused it to bend and thus not > allow the top to be attached to the windshield frame correctly. I > believe that a vendor repairs these. Any idea who that would be? > > Thanks > > Steve Harvey > ________________________________________ > > geegc at aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aolcmp00050000000003 > ________________________________________ > > roadster68 at shaw.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 7 16:53:02 2007 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 15:53:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual Message-ID: <132270.52583.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi, Everyone! I received my CD in the mail yesterday. It does indeed contain a 234 page 1500 parts book as the seller claimed. It is for the 63 single carb, not the 64 double carb model, but has lots of info and pictures of everything. Much more extensive than the 1/4 inch "63 supplement" parts book, that is also included on the CD. It is everything he claimed and has lots of info. What it is not, is a "Chilton's" or "Clymer's", but I'm pleased. I tried to leave feedback for the seller, but he is no longer registered on Ebay. Hmmmm...interesting. Patti --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From graemes at internode.on.net Fri Dec 7 17:01:46 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 10:31:46 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual In-Reply-To: <132270.52583.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <132270.52583.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000301c8392d$8666ba50$426fa8c0@desktop> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-Factory-Workshop-Manuals-1500 -1600-2000_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6762QQihZ003QQitemZ130181506989QQrdZ1Q QsspagenameZWDVW Is this he? "I tried to leave feedback for the seller, but he is no longer registered on Ebay. Hmmmm...interesting. Patti" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1176 - Release Date: 6/12/2007 11:15 PM From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 7 21:49:51 2007 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 20:49:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual In-Reply-To: <000301c8392d$8666ba50$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <829968.44000.qm@web53509.mail.re2.yahoo.com> This may be the same guy using a different name and different account, but probably NOT. My seller's name is "Al" and sells under the Ebay name of "g72372". This current one is for sale by "itgetsnobetter" and has cheaper shipping. I purchased this one: Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual and the current one you are talking about is: Datsun Roadster Factory Workshop Manuals 1500 1600 2000 They appear to be exactly the same CD just a little different name. I really do not want to speculate as to what is going on here. All I know is that I am pleased with the one I purchased and it is as described. Patti Graeme wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Datsun-Roadster-Factory-Workshop-Manuals-1500 -1600-2000_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6762QQihZ003QQitemZ130181506989QQrdZ1Q QsspagenameZWDVW Is this he? "I tried to leave feedback for the seller, but he is no longer registered on Ebay. Hmmmm...interesting. Patti" --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From tom at datsun2000.com Sat Dec 8 10:50:15 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 09:50:15 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Emergency Road List Message-ID: I have had a good response from list members asking to be added to the Emergency Road List. Thanx to all who have added/updated their information. If you want to be added to the list send me your information and I will update the list. The more the merrier. Cal Speed's original list is linked to the updated list. I am not sure how accurate the information is, so I have not copied it to the new list. If you are on Cal's list and want to be added to the newer list please let me know. The list is on the NOWROC web site. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.nowroc.org http://www.datsun2000.com From daveandlindab at comcast.net Sat Dec 8 14:39:20 2007 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 16:39:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question In-Reply-To: <001d01c83929$a84fe5f0$6401a8c0@useravjfzd6udp> Message-ID: <006401c839e2$cb73dfa0$6600a8c0@chrissy> There should be a spacer about 1/4 inch thick between the center clamp amd the top. If it's missing, it will cause 2 things: 1 The top will be very hard to latch, because it is trying to pull too tight 2 This extra tension is one main cause for the front bow cracking in the first place. Where are the tension adjusters set on the rear bow? Could you loosen them a notch? I put a new top on my 69 myself, when it's cold, it's a bit tight. I clamp down the windshield first with tr reae bow folded forward, then I push the rear bow back and down into place to tension it. May not be correct, but works for me. Good Luck Dave -----Original Message----- From: Larry Dziuba [mailto:roadster68 at shaw.ca] I had my top finished earlier this year and it has been a pain to do up every time. One of the vendors warned me that if there is a crease in the bow then there it should be repaired. I had it stripped of paint and noted a tiny crease and decided to leave it. I have the good cloth top on now and could barely get the top to buckle down without the front rubber seal. You could see more of a gap and daylight in the windshield centre. Mannnnnnn!!!! With the seal on it is impossible to do. Someone suggested taking the bow with the top still in place and trying to gently bang out the center bend. I think that if the crease is there that the bend would only come back. I would probably damage the cloth top and put dents in the bow top too. A vendor told me that these tops have always been B____ to buckle down. True? Should I just take the cloth off and send it to a vendor to fix? Larry. ----- Original Message ----- From: > Les Canaday in Vista CA repairs them, I have the same pronblem > > Gary C > -----Original Message----- > > I purchased a new soft top and will be installing it on the top frame > this winter. Several years ago I remember people discussing the fact > that a defect in the sheet metal frame caused it to bend and thus not > allow the top to be attached to the windshield frame correctly. I > believe that a vendor repairs these. Any idea who that would be? > > Thanks > > Steve Harvey > ________________________________________ > > geegc at aol.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://o.aolcdn.com/cdn.webmail.aol.com/mailtour/aol/en-us/text.htm?ncid=aol cmp00050000000003 > ________________________________________ > > roadster68 at shaw.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From chalsted at comcast.net Sun Dec 9 10:11:42 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:11:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] NOS Solex setup available Message-ID: <000a01c83a86$921d94e0$850b8318@craigscomputer> if anyone's interested in picking up a complete NOS Solex setup for a 2000 including camshaft, heat shield, and air cleaner, contact me offline. Craig From chalsted at comcast.net Sun Dec 9 10:26:54 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:26:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] solexes Message-ID: <000a01c83a88$b1501d40$850b8318@craigscomputer> make that offlist, not offline ;-) Craig From drlsmith at dccnet.com Sun Dec 9 11:33:32 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:33:32 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] EFI 1800cc R/G engine - Megasquirt Message-ID: <002c01c83a92$01475f30$4734cf18@Daryl> Took the car out for its first real tuning run yesterday. For those that know the area we went out on hwy 91 to 32nd ave, out to 276th St. on the backroads, then the # 1 hwy to Chilliwack. Back on the #1 to 160th st, and 88th ave home. Got a "Those aren't the stock tailights." and "Why does it say Datsun on the valvecover?" when we were filling up in Chilliwack......... No top. Yes it was F**&$!%g COLD!!! Kind of funny driving aroung without a top, going by farmers fields where the ponds are frozen solid!But nothing a hot drink with the right anti-freeze couldn't fix. ;-) The car is running very well. Pulls hard (for an 1800) up to 5700 rpm where it was starting to lean out some. The tuning still needs lots of tweaking as it goes very lean on throttle tip in, and the air/fuel ratios go as low as 10:1 and as high as 18:1 at different points while driving. For the most part tho the afr was in the 13 to 15:1 areas when it mattered. The "Autotune" feature in megasquirt seemed to be working very well as the car seemed to be driving smoother all the time with it on. We did a lot of full throttle runs to try to cover as much of the tuning map as we could. Unfortunately, because it was a nice sunny day, it was kind of hard to see the computer screen and I missed the "low battery" warning, and lost all the settings when the computer shut down before I 'burnt' them to the ecu. AARGH!!! Note to self: on a tuning run "Burn to ECU" every 15 minutes!!!!! Oh well, It was a great drive in the roadster. Put on over 100 miles and used about 1/2 tank of gas. Definately needs to be leaned out it a lot of places, but feels really good. Nice idle at about 800-850 rpm. Would like to bring this down to about 700-750. Seems all the other things are working well also. GM alternator keeps the voltage at about 14.2, the Hella headlamps work really well, and the dash gauges seem to agree with the computer as far as rpm and temperature. The 2" exhaust system is quieter than I thought it would be, but am actually quite pleased that it is. The induction noise from under the hood seems louder under full throttle. It is actually quieter than the old 1 3/4" exhaust. I was able to pick up some 2" stainless pipe at the metal recyclers quite cheap ($40) and used that for all the straight sections. The muffler shop only had to install/bend the piece that goes over the axle (regular pipe), and tighten everything up. maybe one day a welded stainless 'over the axle' piece will be available from a vendor.......... My cold idle valve, which is just an on-off air bypass valve, seems to be a bit small. It only makes a difference of about 50 rpm when it is on so that will need to be changed as well. I think it should have a cold idle between 1000-1200 rpm. Woke up to snow again today..........I may have to wait for spring to get any decent tuning time in. Lots of time to study the manuals I guess.................. Merry Christmas to all!! Daryl Smith From tom at datsun2000.com Mon Dec 10 13:49:02 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:49:02 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Need updated info for MADROC Message-ID: I recently moved datsun2000.com to a new hosting service. As part of the move I am going through all of the links to be sure they work. One of the links that is not working is for MADROC. Does the organization still exist? If so, please send me the correct link information so I can update the link on my site. Thanx. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org From leehinger at verizon.net Mon Dec 10 15:08:22 2007 From: leehinger at verizon.net (Lee Ehinger) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 17:08:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] looking for some frame "parts" Message-ID: <000601c83b79$318e7380$0301a8c0@ehinger1> Anyone out there have a junker frame? The PO did some creative "trimming" on my 67.5 frame on the drivers side motor mount. The mount for the axle placement / anti wheel hop strut bar is also destroyed (Gee--- how did THAT happen?) I am looking for both to replacement mine before POR15 on the frame. Please reply off list. THX! Lee Ehinger Ft Rain, IN. - lotso ice on everything. From datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com Mon Dec 10 15:21:35 2007 From: datsunpartsdotcom at yahoo.com (datsun parts.com) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:21:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] HOLIDAY SALE AND NEW ITEMS TO INVENTORY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <908894.3897.qm@web36512.mail.mud.yahoo.com> www.datsunparts.com/2187 68 - 70 1/4 window weatherstrip www.datsunparts.com/2073 67 1/2 vent window handles www.datsunparts.com/2195 4 speed transmission clutch arm boot www.datsunparts.com/2200 68 - 70 kick plate handles www.datsunparts.com/2199 Everwing lenses Due 12/15/07 www.datsunparts.com/1972 New door horizontal squeegie weatherstrip www.datsunparts.com/2192 70 Park lamp lenses www.datsunparts.com/2113 Super comp spring set Other items may follow in Sales section this month. www.datsunparts.com/Sale All Items on sale end 12/22/07 --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From mark at dealermats.com Mon Dec 10 17:28:15 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:28:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Need updated info for MADROC References: Message-ID: <001501c83b8c$c80a7d50$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> The link for MADROC and SEROC were through Datsunroadsters.com, and were on my server for the last 10 years. Since I no longer own the name datsunroadsters.com, the links are no good. Everything from that server was deleted. Mark Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: "Datsun-Roadsters at Autox. Team. Net" Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 3:49 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Need updated info for MADROC >I recently moved datsun2000.com to a new hosting service. As part of the > move I am going through all of the links to be sure they work. > > One of the links that is not working is for MADROC. Does the organization > still exist? If so, please send me the correct link information so I can > update the link on my site. > > Thanx. > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org > ________________________________________ > > mark at dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From alvingogi at hotmail.com Mon Dec 10 19:24:54 2007 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:24:54 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] JDM Theory show reminder!! Message-ID: Looks like registration is closed, if you are still interested thugh please contact me. Hey Everyone! **PLEASE READ ENTIRE EMAIL! We are currently FULL and taking no more registrations  A waitlist is now in effect and we are at FULL CAPACTITY! If you registered your friends, group, crew, car club, forum, and/or shop  Please pass this information onto them! If you.................... Already paid your car/crew/forum/vendor booth registration: You are safe! Thanks for reserving your space and we look forward to having you at our show! You can relax and get your car ready for the show! For those of you who have NOT paid yet: Your registration is in jeopardy and your space will be deleted and removed from our list if payment has not been received by FRIDAY 12/15/07  This is your last reminder! Our waitlist is now 45+ and growing - I just dropped 17 cars this morning and added 17 new cars.......We have very anxious people willing to pay asap for YOUR SPOT that is currenly on the waitlist - ! Please communicate with me if you have special request or needs to make arrangements for payment. If you fail to communicate with me and/or ignore this email, I guarantee you that you will be deleted from the list  Please lock in your space by paying for your registration. ATM/Credit Card/Online: www.paypal.com payment address = paypal at jdmtheory.com $30 registration $15 (so-cal and out of state regs)Alvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20 _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 From daveandlindab at comcast.net Tue Dec 11 22:02:43 2007 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:02:43 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] looking for some frame "parts" In-Reply-To: <000601c83b79$318e7380$0301a8c0@ehinger1> Message-ID: <000c01c83c7c$3b5c86f0$6600a8c0@chrissy> I have a complete 69 frame in New Jersey, was given to me for free, so it's yours if you want to come get it. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Lee Ehinger [mailto:leehinger at verizon.net] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 5:08 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] looking for some frame "parts" Anyone out there have a junker frame? The PO did some creative "trimming" on my 67.5 frame on the drivers side motor mount. The mount for the axle placement / anti wheel hop strut bar is also destroyed (Gee--- how did THAT happen?) I am looking for both to replacement mine before POR15 on the frame. Please reply off list. THX! Lee Ehinger Ft Rain, IN. - lotso ice on everything. From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Dec 12 08:25:27 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:25:27 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] ebay 160 speedo in whos car? Message-ID: <006a01c83cd3$3b6fae40$e521ffd8@hpcustomer> Okay, so who has a supercharged motor in a roadster? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=ST RK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130182729642&rd=1 Nice backdrop for the speedo sale! Paul Ohio From tputland at charter.net Wed Dec 12 09:04:07 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 8:04:07 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] ebay 160 speedo in whos car? In-Reply-To: <006a01c83cd3$3b6fae40$e521ffd8@hpcustomer> Message-ID: <20071212110407.FJJT1.85210.root@fepweb15> That is one of Craig's in VA. I am thinking that car is for sale, maybe... -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Paul <9laser3 at bright.net> wrote: ============= Okay, so who has a supercharged motor in a roadster? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&sspagename=ST RK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=130182729642&rd=1 Nice backdrop for the speedo sale! Paul Ohio ________________________________________ From 9laser3 at bright.net Wed Dec 12 11:48:09 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:48:09 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] tiny url for 160 speedo on ebay Message-ID: <00a301c83cef$d120d7e0$e521ffd8@hpcustomer> http://tinyurl.com/39yeuk I should know better than to try and send an ebay link without going to tinyurl.com first! My brain is fried. Trying my hand at a ceramic tile floor in the bathroom at the new house. NEVER AGAIN. I'd rather clean out 40 year old Datsun oil pans! My back may never straighten out again. Paul Ohio From geegc at aol.com Wed Dec 12 12:18:27 2007 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:18:27 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] parts or restoration car 1966 1600 Los Angeles Message-ID: <8CA0B0AE887ADA2-864-307@webmailbeta-m02.sysops.aol.com> Several years ago I bought a 1966 1600 as a potential restoration project.? I bought it from a woman in San Diego who had driven it for a number of years and then parked it at her apartment. ? When I picked it up I brought an extra battery and was able to get the car started to drive onto the trailer.? I parked the car in a garage in the mountains and took it out every three or four months to pollute the neighborhood.? It was not currently licensed so I didn't drive that far. ? I sold the place in the mountains and bought the car down to Los Angeles where it has been sitting in a friend's garage for the last two years.? I have no idea if it will start any longer but suspect that with enough voltage and clean gas it will turn over and run. ? The car is fairly complete, the body is not a rusted out hulk, although there is rust in the obvious places, and the only major item that I think is gone is the speedometer.? This is a restoration project for someone who has time, or a source of parts for an owner of a 1966 1600. ? I paid $500 for it and would like to get the same amount back. ? I also have available a soft top frame which I bought separately and a hard top which I've owned forever.? They did not come with the car but are available separately. ? Before I put it on Craigslist or eBay I thought I would see if anyone on the list wanted it.? I can take pictures this weekend. ? Gary C ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com From chalsted at comcast.net Wed Dec 12 13:42:45 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:42:45 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] supercharged roadster visible in ebay auction Message-ID: <002001c83cff$8d268ca0$850b8318@craigscomputer> yep, it's one of mine... just thought I'd take the photo of the 160 speedo that's up for auction sitting on the fender to provide a bit of eye candy. I suppose like pretty much any of my project cars it's available too if you make an interesting enough offer. has a Camaro 5spd with a short shifter in it...engine in stock configuration is good for 240hp- has a real decent body too :-) Paul set up a tinyurl link for the auction... http://tinyurl.com/39yeuk Craig roadsters From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Wed Dec 12 19:41:14 2007 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:41:14 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd rebuild, 5th gear neutral...[update] In-Reply-To: <007c01c82b04$ad888cd0$6500a8c0@lap> References: <029b01c828cc$6b02e390$6600a8c0@chrissy> <007c01c82b04$ad888cd0$6500a8c0@lap> Message-ID: Just a quick update on my 5spd rebuild / 5th gear neutral fix... If you recall, I had trouble getting the locknut on the mainshaft to break loose. I just needed a bigger wrench. After a visit to the local hardware store and $48 later, I had a 1-1/2" combination wrench. I enjoy collecting tools... I used the 1-1/2" wrench on the locknut and an adjustable wrench with a 3' steel tube on the main nut. Pictures! http://tinyurl.com/284sq9 In the pictures, the mainshaft is on the right side, the counter shaft on the left. The reference manual that had the number of teeth for each gear on both shafts was handy for figuring out which gears are which. They all have a unique number of teeth. I'm still trying to get my head around the "fix" for the 5th gear neutral problem. The 5th gear on the main shaft is on needle bearings, but it's supposed to be held stationary by the locknut???? The heavy tapered washer that is just inside the main nut has a keyed indentation that goes over a ball on the shaft (see pics). The 5th gear (counterpart) on the counter shaft has heavy splines and I see no possible way for it to be slipping. So I'm assuming the "neutral" or slipping part is on the main shaft? Somebody clue me in... Or just tell me which parts to get welded... Thanks for all the help... Hopefully the pics and the discussion will help future 5th gear neutral repairs.. Also, anyone that knows where I can source the spring metal "pins" pictured in the last pic 1211072228.jpg? A few of them came out in pieces when I was using a drift to drive them out. What else should I replace in the trans before going back together? (Parts suppliers, do you have gasket kits?) My trans will pop out of second gear sometimes if I'm getting on the throttle and not holding the stickshift in, what part causes that? Synchro? Ken Pearce Bellingham, WA 68-2000 From RoadsterGB at aol.com Thu Dec 13 07:02:35 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:02:35 EST Subject: [Roadsters] 2007 Classic Car Show in the UK - Fairlady 1500 on video ... Message-ID: Jon Newlyn dispels the myth of the 'MGB copy' _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/classiccarshow2007.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/classiccarshow2007.htm) Jon Hunter's 65 Fairlady which is featured in the video is a beautiful car - he has invested about #20,000 ($40,000) in it to date. I'm not sure if it's one of only 75 rhds built that year per the video. From tputland at charter.net Thu Dec 13 07:31:26 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 6:31:26 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 2007 Classic Car Show in the UK - Fairlady 1500 on video ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071213093126.42AM9.135954.root@fepweb03> I would like to burn that clip to a DVD, make copies, and then give it to any one who thinks, says, etc that the MGB was first. Outstanding video!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- RoadsterGB at aol.com wrote: ============= Jon Newlyn dispels the myth of the 'MGB copy' _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/classiccarshow2007.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/classiccarshow2007.htm) Jon Hunter's 65 Fairlady which is featured in the video is a beautiful car - he has invested about #20,000 ($40,000) in it to date. I'm not sure if it's one of only 75 rhds built that year per the video. ________________________________________ From RoadsterGB at aol.com Thu Dec 13 07:36:31 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:36:31 EST Subject: [Roadsters] 2007 Classic Car Show in the UK - Fairlady 1500 on video ... Message-ID: Hi Tim Jon asked me for the launch dates for the Fairlady/MG the day before the show because the organisers said they might want to use something about the Fairlady - and he remembered them. Not sure where he got the thing about the Datsun's own race series from but he gets the point across! Cheers from England. Rob From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Thu Dec 13 07:37:09 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:37:09 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 2007 Classic Car Show in the UK - Fairlady 1500 on video ... In-Reply-To: <20071213093126.42AM9.135954.root@fepweb03> References: <20071213093126.42AM9.135954.root@fepweb03> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF763E93B2@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> No kidding! In high school I dated a girl that called my black 1600 a MG... Yep, only dated her once and put the white rocker panel stripe on with big "Datsun" in the center... -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:31 AM To: RoadsterGB at aol.com; Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 2007 Classic Car Show in the UK - Fairlady 1500 on video ... I would like to burn that clip to a DVD, make copies, and then give it to any one who thinks, says, etc that the MGB was first. Outstanding video!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- RoadsterGB at aol.com wrote: ============= Jon Newlyn dispels the myth of the 'MGB copy' _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/classiccarshow2007.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/classiccarshow2007.htm) Jon Hunter's 65 Fairlady which is featured in the video is a beautiful car - he has invested about #20,000 ($40,000) in it to date. I'm not sure if it's one of only 75 rhds built that year per the video. ________________________________________ _ From mark at dealermats.com Thu Dec 13 08:14:01 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:14:01 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 2007 Classic Car Show in the UK - Fairlady 1500 onvideo ... References: Message-ID: <002301c83d9a$cbd9ddd0$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Actually it is according to Nissan (78 actually) The reason being is it is a 65 1500 not a 65 1600. There are not too many true 1965 1500 2 seaters. This one being a RHD 65 1500 2 seater is pretty rare. It is not one of 78 RHD Roadsters that year as the 1600 came out in 65 also, it is however one of only 78 RHD 65 1500's. Very nice car. ----- Original Message ----- I'm not sure if it's > one of only 75 rhds built that year per the video. From RWM at RWMann.com Thu Dec 13 08:28:30 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:28:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 2007 Classic Car Show in the UK - Fairlady 1500 on video ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47614F9E.7070002@RWMann.com> The video clip mentions the RHD 1500 is ZA in origin. I spent quite a bit of time on a job in Johannesburg during 2000-2003 and recall to my great surprise seeing several 1600s on the road and in employee parking lots at South African Airways and at OR Tambo Airport. - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex RoadsterGB at aol.com wrote: >Jon Newlyn dispels the myth of the 'MGB copy' > >_http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/classiccarshow2007.htm_ >(http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/classiccarshow2007.htm) > >Jon Hunter's 65 Fairlady which is featured in the video is a beautiful car - >he has invested about #20,000 ($40,000) in it to date. I'm not sure if it's >one of only 75 rhds built that year per the video. >________________________________________ > >rwm at rwmann.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- R.W. Mann & Company, Inc. >> Airline Industry Analysis Port Washington, NY 11050 >> tel 516-944-0900, fax -7280 mailto:info at RWMann.com >> URL http://www.RWMann.com/ This e-mail is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the above sender immediately then delete the original e-mail. Any other use of this e-mail is prohibited. From BARTERDUDE at aol.com Thu Dec 13 08:30:42 2007 From: BARTERDUDE at aol.com (BARTERDUDE at aol.com) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:30:42 EST Subject: [Roadsters] 2007 Classic Car Show in the UK - Fairlady 1500 on video ... Message-ID: i have had my roadsters referred to as everything short of Datsun. Been called MG, Triumph, Fiat, and I just reply WRONG SIDE OF THE POND. Check this out at _www.wycroc.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org) at the bottom of WHAT KIND IS IT? If you feel an overwhelming itch coming on to say "gee, it looks like an MG!".. well, ok. Let it out. But note that the Datsun came out a year before the MGB! Gary Lasater - Parker CO founding member _www.wycroc.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) 1963 SPL310-300161C 1963 SPL310-300289B 1964 SPL310-01289 1970 SRL311-12536 1970 SPL311-28169 **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Thu Dec 13 08:35:17 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:35:17 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 2007 Classic Car Show in the UK - Fairlady 1500 on video ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47615135.20203@hornesystemstx.com> I usually reply "It's a Datsun, the electrics work and it doesn't leak oil" I even had a guy driving an MG ask me what year MG it was! I found a 1967 license plate that I registered that is GBN 123 - Great Brittan? NOT! Too bad it isn't easy for non-Roadster folks to figure it out. Peace, Pat Thusly spake BARTERDUDE at aol.com: > i have had my roadsters referred to as everything short of Datsun. Been > called MG, Triumph, Fiat, and I just reply WRONG SIDE OF THE POND. > > Check this out at _www.wycroc.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org) at the bottom of > WHAT KIND IS IT? > > > If you feel an overwhelming itch coming on to say "gee, it looks like an > MG!".. well, ok. Let it out. But note that the Datsun came out a year before the > MGB! > > > Gary Lasater - Parker CO > founding member _www.wycroc.org_ (http://www.wycroc.org/) > 1963 SPL310-300161C > 1963 SPL310-300289B > 1964 SPL310-01289 > 1970 SRL311-12536 > 1970 SPL311-28169 > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > ________________________________________ > > roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Dec 13 11:23:24 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:23:24 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country Message-ID: It appears to me that my emails have not been reaching the list - inasmuch as I have not been receiving copies of emails I have sent. Has anyone received anything (other than personally referenced) since about November 25th or so. You should have received at least 3. If anyone would like more details (assuming they have been missed) please let me know. Anyhoo,I am back. After 8500+ miles - Eliza is dirty (but not too much so, thank god she is silver and not black ) - don't know that i would have attempted such a trip in anything contemporary british (foreign) ( speaking as a brit ) - she held up fine - muffler problems , bit of misfiring at @3200 (occasionally) - but overall what an amazing tribute to japanese engineering. Smooth, reasonably powerful (1600), good roadholding (panasports), 5 speed really makes a difference and personally, not to be attempted wihout the benefit of miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun could have been better at. So now I am in a quandry - when to clean her up - she needs to wear the patina of having done what she has done, but equally I don't want her to be a DIRTY car. I think I will leave her as she is (patinad (sp?) until the new year and then do some SERIOUS detailing. So, I have stuff to do, upgrade the lights ( they don't illuminate deers/elks at 100 paces), rebuild the suspension (pulls to the left) Anyhoo, I am as previously stated - HOME From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Dec 13 11:33:03 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:33:03 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Holiday Dinner December 30th 2007 Message-ID: I am offering to host a holiday (bbq/dinner) on December 30th (Sunday). I have 4-5 roadster people who have accepted the invitation. My request is that if anyone else is interested, please let me know by december 26th. Thanks Peter Van Nuys, CA From reblues at reblues.net Thu Dec 13 11:42:16 2007 From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:42:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country References: Message-ID: <007401c83db7$e2984a80$6601a8c0@ACER4230> Hey Peter, Glad to hear you had a good trip. I left Atlanta on Tuesday Nov 20th. By Saturday the 24th I had put 3500 miles on the car with no problems. Drove to SE Arizona then on to Salt Lake City. I hear you about not illuminating elk. On the trip back from SLC, about midnight on Saturday I found out first hand. http://www.reblues.net/elk/ I had just gassed up and was getting ready drive through the Salt River Canyon under a full moon with no traffic. Plans changed. Borrowed a car & dolly to get the roadster home. Looks like I have a new autocross car. Oh, and I have not cleaned the patina from the car yet. Richard Brown 70 No windshield car ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country > It appears to me that my emails have not been reaching the list - inasmuch > as > I have not been receiving copies of emails I have sent. > > Has anyone received anything (other than personally referenced) since > about > November 25th or so. > > You should have received at least 3. > > If anyone would like more details (assuming they have been missed) please > let > me know. > > Anyhoo,I am back. After 8500+ miles - Eliza is dirty (but not too much so, > thank god she is silver and not black ) - don't know that i would have > attempted such a trip in anything contemporary british (foreign) ( > speaking > as a brit ) - she held up fine - muffler problems , bit of misfiring at > @3200 > (occasionally) - but overall what an amazing tribute to japanese > engineering. > Smooth, reasonably powerful (1600), good roadholding (panasports), 5 speed > really makes a difference and personally, not to be attempted wihout the > benefit of miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun > could > have been better at. > > So now I am in a quandry - when to clean her up - she needs to wear the > patina > of having done what she has done, but equally I don't want her to be a > DIRTY > car. I think I will leave her as she is (patinad (sp?) until the new year > and > then do some SERIOUS detailing. > > So, I have stuff to do, upgrade the lights ( they don't illuminate > deers/elks > at 100 paces), rebuild the suspension (pulls to the left) > > > Anyhoo, I am as previously stated - HOME > ________________________________________ From solex675 at hotmail.com Thu Dec 13 11:51:26 2007 From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:51:26 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: _________________________________________________________________ im is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect From tputland at charter.net Thu Dec 13 11:53:46 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:53:46 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country In-Reply-To: <007401c83db7$e2984a80$6601a8c0@ACER4230> Message-ID: <20071213135346.VCYR7.151937.root@fepweb03> Ah man. I am just crying. I have a nice windshield--one rock chip--that you can have for the price of shipping if you want it. Cheap as I can make it to try to soften the blow. Did you salvage the meat and eat the damned thing that did that to your car? Elk is good eats!! Feeling your pain, kinda. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Richard Brown wrote: ============= Hey Peter, Glad to hear you had a good trip. I left Atlanta on Tuesday Nov 20th. By Saturday the 24th I had put 3500 miles on the car with no problems. Drove to SE Arizona then on to Salt Lake City. I hear you about not illuminating elk. On the trip back from SLC, about midnight on Saturday I found out first hand. http://www.reblues.net/elk/ I had just gassed up and was getting ready drive through the Salt River Canyon under a full moon with no traffic. Plans changed. Borrowed a car & dolly to get the roadster home. Looks like I have a new autocross car. Oh, and I have not cleaned the patina from the car yet. Richard Brown 70 No windshield car ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country > It appears to me that my emails have not been reaching the list - inasmuch > as > I have not been receiving copies of emails I have sent. > > Has anyone received anything (other than personally referenced) since > about > November 25th or so. > > You should have received at least 3. > > If anyone would like more details (assuming they have been missed) please > let > me know. > > Anyhoo,I am back. After 8500+ miles - Eliza is dirty (but not too much so, > thank god she is silver and not black ) - don't know that i would have > attempted such a trip in anything contemporary british (foreign) ( > speaking > as a brit ) - she held up fine - muffler problems , bit of misfiring at > @3200 > (occasionally) - but overall what an amazing tribute to japanese > engineering. > Smooth, reasonably powerful (1600), good roadholding (panasports), 5 speed > really makes a difference and personally, not to be attempted wihout the > benefit of miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun > could > have been better at. > > So now I am in a quandry - when to clean her up - she needs to wear the > patina > of having done what she has done, but equally I don't want her to be a > DIRTY > car. I think I will leave her as she is (patinad (sp?) until the new year > and > then do some SERIOUS detailing. > > So, I have stuff to do, upgrade the lights ( they don't illuminate > deers/elks > at 100 paces), rebuild the suspension (pulls to the left) > > > Anyhoo, I am as previously stated - HOME From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Thu Dec 13 11:54:11 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:54:11 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country ELK Hunting In-Reply-To: <007401c83db7$e2984a80$6601a8c0@ACER4230> References: <007401c83db7$e2984a80$6601a8c0@ACER4230> Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF763E950C@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Geez Richard!! What a mess - the Roadster is not good either! What are you plans for a fix/rebuild? Phil -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Brown Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:42 PM To: peter harrison; datsun Subject: Re: [Roadsters] X-Country Hey Peter, Glad to hear you had a good trip. I left Atlanta on Tuesday Nov 20th. By Saturday the 24th I had put 3500 miles on the car with no problems. Drove to SE Arizona then on to Salt Lake City. I hear you about not illuminating elk. On the trip back from SLC, about midnight on Saturday I found out first hand. http://www.reblues.net/elk/ I had just gassed up and was getting ready drive through the Salt River Canyon under a full moon with no traffic. Plans changed. Borrowed a car & dolly to get the roadster home. Looks like I have a new autocross car. Oh, and I have not cleaned the patina from the car yet. Richard Brown 70 No windshield car ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country > It appears to me that my emails have not been reaching the list - inasmuch > as > I have not been receiving copies of emails I have sent. > > Has anyone received anything (other than personally referenced) since > about > November 25th or so. > > You should have received at least 3. > > If anyone would like more details (assuming they have been missed) please > let > me know. > > Anyhoo,I am back. After 8500+ miles - Eliza is dirty (but not too much so, > thank god she is silver and not black ) - don't know that i would have > attempted such a trip in anything contemporary british (foreign) ( > speaking > as a brit ) - she held up fine - muffler problems , bit of misfiring at > @3200 > (occasionally) - but overall what an amazing tribute to japanese > engineering. > Smooth, reasonably powerful (1600), good roadholding (panasports), 5 speed > really makes a difference and personally, not to be attempted wihout the > benefit of miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun > could > have been better at. > > So now I am in a quandry - when to clean her up - she needs to wear the > patina > of having done what she has done, but equally I don't want her to be a > DIRTY > car. I think I will leave her as she is (patinad (sp?) until the new year > and > then do some SERIOUS detailing. > > So, I have stuff to do, upgrade the lights ( they don't illuminate > deers/elks > at 100 paces), rebuild the suspension (pulls to the left) > > > Anyhoo, I am as previously stated - HOME > ________________________________________ ________________________________________ From solex675 at hotmail.com Thu Dec 13 12:03:58 2007 From: solex675 at hotmail.com (Andrew Murphy) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:03:58 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Peter, 8500 miles in a roadster! I have never heard of anyone driving that many contiguous miles. You win the perpetual "Iron Butt" award - Miata seats or not! Being a bit of a wordsmith, I can tell you the word is patinated.... Congrats to you and Eliza for completing this epic journey! Take Care, Andrew Murphy 1966 1600> From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:23:24 -0800> Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country> > It appears to me that my emails have not been reaching the list - inasmuch as> I have not been receiving copies of emails I have sent.> > Has anyone received anything (other than personally referenced) since about> November 25th or so.> > You should have received at least 3.> > If anyone would like more details (assuming they have been missed) please let> me know.> > Anyhoo,I am back. After 8500+ miles - Eliza is dirty (but not too much so,> thank god she is silver and not black ) - don't know that i would have> attempted such a trip in anything contemporary british (foreign) ( speaking> as a brit ) - she held up fine - muffler problems , bit of misfiring at @3200> (occasionally) - but overall what an amazing tribute to japanese engineering.> Smooth, reasonably powerful (1600), good roadholding (panasports), 5 speed> really makes a difference and personally, not to be attempted wihout the> benefit of miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun could> have been better at.> > So now I am in a quandry - when to clean her up - she needs to wear the patina> of having done what she has done, but equally I don't want her to be a DIRTY> car. I think I will leave her as she is (patinad (sp?) until the new year and> then do some SERIOUS detailing.> > So, I have stuff to do, upgrade the lights ( they don't illuminate deers/elks> at 100 paces), rebuild the suspension (pulls to the left)> > > Anyhoo, I am as previously stated - HOME> ________________________________________> _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007 From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Thu Dec 13 12:06:01 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:06:01 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF763E9518@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Cool trip in a Roadster!! I find about 5 hours in Roadster seats are all my rear can handle. I would love to make a trip like yours in a Roadster - now that is true motoring!! Thanks for sharing! Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of peter harrison Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:23 PM To: datsun Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country It appears to me that my emails have not been reaching the list - inasmuch as I have not been receiving copies of emails I have sent. Has anyone received anything (other than personally referenced) since about November 25th or so. You should have received at least 3. If anyone would like more details (assuming they have been missed) please let me know. Anyhoo,I am back. After 8500+ miles - Eliza is dirty (but not too much so, thank god she is silver and not black ) - don't know that i would have attempted such a trip in anything contemporary british (foreign) ( speaking as a brit ) - she held up fine - muffler problems , bit of misfiring at @3200 (occasionally) - but overall what an amazing tribute to japanese engineering. Smooth, reasonably powerful (1600), good roadholding (panasports), 5 speed really makes a difference and personally, not to be attempted wihout the benefit of miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun could have been better at. So now I am in a quandry - when to clean her up - she needs to wear the patina of having done what she has done, but equally I don't want her to be a DIRTY car. I think I will leave her as she is (patinad (sp?) until the new year and then do some SERIOUS detailing. So, I have stuff to do, upgrade the lights ( they don't illuminate deers/elks at 100 paces), rebuild the suspension (pulls to the left) A From tputland at charter.net Thu Dec 13 12:10:51 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:10:51 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 8500 miles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071213141051.FVXJM.152902.root@fepweb03> There were two couples in either New Zealand or Australia who did about that many miles recently. I think Graeme amy have sent the link out. All in all, it is an amazing distance in any car! I get sore after 50 or so! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- Andrew Murphy wrote: ============= Peter, 8500 miles in a roadster! I have never heard of anyone driving that many contiguous miles. You win the perpetual "Iron Butt" award - Miata seats or not! Being a bit of a wordsmith, I can tell you the word is patinated.... Congrats to you and Eliza for completing this epic journey! Take Care, Andrew Murphy From Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov Thu Dec 13 12:12:08 2007 From: Phillip.B.Hall at nasa.gov (Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03)) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:12:08 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF763E951E@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Being an engineer and a NON-wordsmith, I had to look up Patina. 1. A thin layer of rust or green corrosion that appears on copper or copper alloys. 2. The Sheen on an antique surface produced by use and age. I think #2 hits the mark! Phil SEROC -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+phillip.b.hall=nasa.gov at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Murphy Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:04 PM To: peter harrison; datsun Subject: Re: [Roadsters] X-Country Peter, 8500 miles in a roadster! I have never heard of anyone driving that many contiguous miles. You win the perpetual "Iron Butt" award - Miata seats or not! Being a bit of a wordsmith, I can tell you the word is patinated.... Congrats to you and Eliza for completing this epic journey! Take Care, Andrew Murphy 1966 1600> From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:23:24 -0800> Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country> > It appears to me that my emails have not been reaching the list - inasmuch as> I have not been receiving copies of emails I have sent.> > Has anyone received anything (other than personally referenced) since about> November 25th or so.> > You should have received at least 3.> > If anyone would like more details (assuming they have been missed) please let> me know.> > Anyhoo,I am back. After 8500+ miles - Eliza is dirty (but not too much so,> thank god she is silver and not black ) - don't know that i would have> attempted such a trip in anything contemporary british (foreign) ( speaking> as a brit ) - she held up fine - muffler problems , bit of misfiring at @3200> (occasionally) - but overall what an amazing tribute to japanese engineering.> Smooth, reasonably powerful (1600), good roadholding (panasports), 5 speed> really makes a difference and personally, not to be attempted wihout the> benefit of miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun could> have been better at.> > So now I am in a quandry - when to clean her up - she needs to wear the patina> of having done what she has done, but equally I don't want her to be a DIRTY> car. I think I will leave her as she is (patinad (sp?) until the new year and> then do some SERIOUS detailing.> > So, I have stuff to do, upgrade the lights ( they don't illuminate deers/elks> at 100 paces), rebuild the suspension (pulls to the left)> > > Anyhoo, I am as previously stated - HOME> ________________________________________> _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122 007 ________________________________________ From tputland at charter.net Thu Dec 13 12:13:10 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:13:10 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] hot mail bouncing emails--help Message-ID: <20071213141310.9KAT7.153050.root@fepweb03> Any one happen to know how I can get off the hotmail.com spammer list? (Did I already ask this to the list? I am having a deja vu...) I am assuming that is what has happened as I am unable to send email to any hotmail accounts using this email address. TIA Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From reblues at reblues.net Thu Dec 13 14:30:46 2007 From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:30:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country References: Message-ID: <00c501c83dcf$6cdb5fe0$6601a8c0@ACER4230> Peter, I apologize for hijacking your message. Driving a roadster cross country is great fun. It sounds like you had a great trip and I'm sure met some great people. Almost every stop for gas or rest break results in a conversation about the car with someone. I envy your Miata seats. With the aid of a small pillow the roadster seats aren't to bad. I am sorry I wasn't in the area or I would have driven down for your visit with Brad & Gayle in Montgomery. What gas mileage did you get? How did the heater work? Come on out for The Mitty at Road Atlanta the end of April. We will swap some stories. Richard Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country > It appears to me that my emails have not been reaching the list - inasmuch > as > I have not been receiving copies of emails I have sent. > > Has anyone received anything (other than personally referenced) since > about > November 25th or so. > > You should have received at least 3. > > If anyone would like more details (assuming they have been missed) please > let > me know. > > Anyhoo,I am back. After 8500+ miles - Eliza is dirty (but not too much so, > thank god she is silver and not black ) - don't know that i would have > attempted such a trip in anything contemporary british (foreign) ( > speaking > as a brit ) - she held up fine - muffler problems , bit of misfiring at > @3200 > (occasionally) - but overall what an amazing tribute to japanese > engineering. > Smooth, reasonably powerful (1600), good roadholding (panasports), 5 speed > really makes a difference and personally, not to be attempted wihout the > benefit of miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun > could > have been better at. > > So now I am in a quandry - when to clean her up - she needs to wear the > patina > of having done what she has done, but equally I don't want her to be a > DIRTY > car. I think I will leave her as she is (patinad (sp?) until the new year > and > then do some SERIOUS detailing. > > So, I have stuff to do, upgrade the lights ( they don't illuminate > deers/elks > at 100 paces), rebuild the suspension (pulls to the left) > > > Anyhoo, I am as previously stated - HOME > ________________________________________ > > reblues at reblues.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 13 15:02:43 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:02:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <604636.91809.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In fairness to Datsun, Miata seats have a couple of decades of ergonomic development on the stock seats in our Datsuns - and will be physically much newer, to boot! Gary McCormick '70 2000 SRL311-13291 San Jose, CA peter harrison wrote: not to be attempted without the benefit of Miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun could have been better at. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Dec 13 15:22:15 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:22:15 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") Message-ID: <121320072222.5372.4761B0970005D24A000014FC2205886442CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> True, but I find myself getting antsy in the seats of our 2002 Miata after 4 hours. Haven't had my roadster running for longer than 20 minutes to compare, but I did ride all day (with some breaks) in a 67.5 2000 w/ comp springs. Stiff, but I didn't find it that objectionable for a 40yo vehicle. Guess it depends on how iron your butt is, hehehehehehe. Pete "looking forward to a loooooooong trip in his roadster someday" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Gary McCormick > In fairness to Datsun, Miata seats have a couple of decades of ergonomic > development on the stock seats in our Datsuns - and will be physically much > newer, to boot! > > Gary McCormick > '70 2000 SRL311-13291 > San Jose, CA > > peter harrison wrote: not to be attempted > without the > benefit of Miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun could > have been better at. > ________________________________________ > > ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roadsterregistry at yahoo.com Thu Dec 13 15:29:31 2007 From: roadsterregistry at yahoo.com (Roman Rist) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:29:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Long lost roadster aholic Message-ID: <944558.53498.qm@web50112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> After a very long absence, I have dusted off this old email address and am back on the list. God, I miss Roadsters . Roman --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From mark at dealermats.com Thu Dec 13 15:35:33 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:35:33 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Long lost roadster aholic References: <944558.53498.qm@web50112.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001001c83dd8$7a2a1e30$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Welcome back! Some of us remember Roman getting stopped by the cops for just walking down the street. Get a haircut, you hippie! Still building guitars? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roman Rist" To: Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Long lost roadster aholic > After a very long absence, I have dusted off this old email address and am > back on the list. > God, I miss Roadsters > . > > Roman > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > ________________________________________ > > mark at dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From alvingogi at hotmail.com Thu Dec 13 15:39:02 2007 From: alvingogi at hotmail.com (alvin gogineni) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:39:02 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") In-Reply-To: <121320072222.5372.4761B0970005D24A000014FC2205886442CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> References: <121320072222.5372.4761B0970005D24A000014FC2205886442CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Message-ID: BMW Z3 seats for the win! http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2926023400091305389uWCWzHAlvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: ppeters914 at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:22:15 +0000> Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country")> > True, but I find myself getting antsy in the seats of our 2002 Miata after 4 hours. Haven't had my roadster running for longer than 20 minutes to compare, but I did ride all day (with some breaks) in a 67.5 2000 w/ comp springs. Stiff, but I didn't find it that objectionable for a 40yo vehicle.> > Guess it depends on how iron your butt is, hehehehehehe. > > Pete "looking forward to a loooooooong trip in his roadster someday"> > -------------- Original message ----------------------> From: Gary McCormick > > In fairness to Datsun, Miata seats have a couple of decades of ergonomic > > development on the stock seats in our Datsuns - and will be physically much > > newer, to boot!> > > > Gary McCormick> > '70 2000 SRL311-13291> > San Jose, CA> > > > peter harrison wrote: not to be attempted > > without the> > benefit of Miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun could> > have been better at.> > ________________________________________> > > > ppeters914 at comcast.net> > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > > > http://www.team.net/archive> > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> > alvingogi at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ im is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Dec 13 15:49:12 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:49:12 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Long lost roadster aholic Message-ID: <121320072249.21871.4761B6E8000127DD0000556F2205886442CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Easily remedied. Always plenty for sale. Just set your budget and wait for your year and condition to appear. Welcome back. Resistance is Futile. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Roman Rist > After a very long absence, I have dusted off this old email address and am back > on the list. > God, I miss Roadsters > . > > Roman > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > ________________________________________ > > ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Dec 13 16:07:04 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:07:04 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") Message-ID: <121320072307.27220.4761BB180000821A00006A542200734076CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Oh, yeah, I saw those on Paul's(?) roadster at Canby. Look like original equipment thanks to Spriso & friends. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: alvin gogineni > > BMW Z3 seats for the win! > http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2926023400091305389uWCWzH Alvin From: alvin gogineni To: , datsun Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:40:12 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from Multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/html BMW Z3 seats for the win! http:// good-times.webshots.com/photo/2926023400091305389uWCWzH Alvin Gogineni San Jose, CA 67.5 SPL/SR20 > From: ppeters914 at comcast.net > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:22:15 +0000 > Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") > > True, but I find myself getting antsy in the seats of our 2002 Miata after 4 hours. Haven't had my roadster running for longer than 20 minutes to compare, but I did ride all day (with some breaks) in a 67.5 2000 w/ comp springs. Stiff, but I didn't find it that objectionable for a 40yo vehicle. > > Guess it depends on how iron your butt is, hehehehehehe. > > Pete "looking forward to a loooooooong trip in his roadster someday" > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Gary McCormick > > In fairness to Datsun, Miata seats have a couple of decades of ergonomic > > development on the stock seats in our Datsuns - and will be physically much > > newer, to boot! > > > > Gary McCormick > > '70 2000 SRL311-13291 > > San Jose, CA > > > > peter harrison wrote: not to be attempted > > without the > > benefit of Miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun could > > have been better at. > > ________________________________________ > > > > ppeters914 at comcast.net > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > > alvingogi at hotmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ im is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. Learn more From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 13 16:37:02 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:37:02 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 2007 Classic Car Show in the UK - Fairlady 1500 on video ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4761C21E.8020103@sbcglobal.net> Now that I'm home and not behind layers and layers of firewalls at work, I can see the clip - Pretty cool! - tho' I noticed that they never really told you what kind of car the pretty blonde presenter is sitting in! Gary McCormick '70 2000 SRL311-13291 San Jose, CA RoadsterGB at aol.com wrote: >Jon Newlyn dispels the myth of the 'MGB copy' > >_http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/classiccarshow2007.htm_ >(http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/classiccarshow2007.htm) > >Jon Hunter's 65 Fairlady which is featured in the video is a beautiful car - >he has invested about #20,000 ($40,000) in it to date. I'm not sure if it's >one of only 75 rhds built that year per the video. >________________________________________ > >gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From graemes at internode.on.net Thu Dec 13 16:46:24 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:16:24 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] 8500 miles In-Reply-To: <20071213141051.FVXJM.152902.root@fepweb03> References: <20071213141051.FVXJM.152902.root@fepweb03> Message-ID: <000601c83de2$5fa68170$426fa8c0@desktop> Two cars, 4 people travelled from Brisbane to the Barossa Valley in South Australia, for our 2007 Roadster Nationals. They went anti-clockwise, which is similar to travelling from East Coast USA to Miami, via California, the LONG way! http://www.earlydatsun.com/roundoz.html And as for getting a Roadstersaurarse, I think that is a definite! "There were two couples in either New Zealand or Australia who did about that many miles recently. All in all, it is an amazing distance in any car! I get sore after 50 or so! Tim" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1182 - Release Date: 12/12/2007 11:29 AM From tputland at charter.net Thu Dec 13 18:21:42 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:21:42 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071213202142.AD2EG.176361.root@fepweb14> alvin gogineni wrote: BMW Z3 seats for the win!.. I had commented to my wife wondering if these would fit in a Datsun. Thanks for posting this Alvin!! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From tputland at charter.net Thu Dec 13 18:49:33 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:49:33 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] hub caps Message-ID: <20071213204933.7RE9F.177805.root@fepweb14> any one on this list bidding on the hub caps on ebay that are about to end? or anyone need a real nice set? I have a real nice set to sell and would like to not use ebay. I also have a very nice set of early Datsun truck hub caps if any one knows of someone who needs a set. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From gsglasgow at comcast.net Thu Dec 13 20:00:15 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 19:00:15 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country In-Reply-To: <85597404D578FB4D8EB4E40AFBECDF763E951E@NDMSEVS33B.ndc.nasa.gov> Message-ID: Ah! So that's what I've got on me! I told my sister-in-law the other day that I had hoped as I got older that I'd look more like Sean Connery, but instead I'm looking more like Wilford Brimley. Her reply was, "It could be worse, you could look like Gabby Hayes." She's got a point. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Hall, Phillip B. (MSFC-ED03) Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:12 AM To: Andrew Murphy; peter harrison; datsun Subject: Re: [Roadsters] X-Country Being an engineer and a NON-wordsmith, I had to look up Patina. 1. A thin layer of rust or green corrosion that appears on copper or copper alloys. 2. The Sheen on an antique surface produced by use and age. I think #2 hits the mark! Phil SEROC From gregs672liter at netzero.net Thu Dec 13 22:49:29 2007 From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:49:29 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") Message-ID: <20071213.214929.12085.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> My girlfriends 2000 BMW Z3 seats are not nearly as comfortable as my Roadsters (67 2000) in my opinion. And it was my car that Pete spent several hours in! Actually, my Roadster is one of the more comfortable distance drivers (for seats anyway) that I have been in outside of huge land cruisers, despite the comp springs. My head rest posts were nicely modified (cut and welded) to tilt forward and actually be useful (not sure you can do that on later seats). Don't know about Miata seats... no experience. And Pete, when the weather is good in Washington again we can do another drive! Back side of Mt St Helens this time? Now THAT is a road! Gotta keep you motivated! Greg Burrows -- alvin gogineni wrote: BMW Z3 seats for the win! http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2926023400091305389uWCWzHAlvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: ppeters914 at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:22:15 +0000> Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country")> > True, but I find myself getting antsy in the seats of our 2002 Miata after 4 hours. Haven't had my roadster running for longer than 20 minutes to compare, but I did ride all day (with some breaks) in a 67.5 2000 w/ comp springs. Stiff, but I didn't find it that objectionable for a 40yo vehicle.> > Guess it depends on how iron your butt is, hehehehehehe. > > Pete "looking forward to a loooooooong trip in his roadster someday"> > -------------- Original message ----------------------> From: Gary McCormick > > In fairness to Datsun, Miata seats have a couple of decades of ergonomic > > development on the stock seats in our Datsuns - and will be physically much > > newer, to boot!> > > > Gary McCormick> > '70 2000 SRL311-13291> > San Jose, CA> > > > peter harrison wrote: not to be attempted > > without the> > benefit of Miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun could> > have been better at.> > ________________________________________> > > > ppeters914 at comcast.net> > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > > > http://www.team.net/archive> > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________> > alvingogi at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ im is proud to present Cause Effect, a series about real people making a difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_Cause_Effect Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _____________________________________________________________ Click to learn how you can earn extra cash in day trading. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4ujrUtR1mbkhKQ6dlzX96SHg xeUfCHA3tMA7EMAJJ5umA1Wq/ From gregs672liter at netzero.net Thu Dec 13 22:50:12 2007 From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:50:12 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") Message-ID: <20071213.215012.12085.1@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> My girlfriends 2000 BMW Z3 seats are not nearly as comfortable as my Roadsters (67 2000) in my opinion. And it was my car that Pete spent several hours in! Actually, my Roadster is one of the more comfortable distance drivers (for seats anyway) that I have been in outside of huge land cruisers, despite the comp springs. My head rest posts were nicely modified (cut and welded) to tilt forward and actually be useful (not sure you can do that on later seats). Don't know about Miata seats... no experience. And Pete, when the weather is good in Washington again we can do another drive! Back side of Mt St Helens this time? Now THAT is a road! Gotta keep you motivated! Greg Burrows -- alvin gogineni wrote: BMW Z3 seats for the win! http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2926023400091305389uWCWzHAlvin GogineniSan Jose, CA67.5 SPL/SR20> From: ppeters914 at comcast.net> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:22:15 +0000> Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country")> > True, but I find myself getting antsy in the seats of our 2002 Miata after 4 hours. Haven't had my roadster running for longer than 20 minutes to compare, but I did ride all day (with some breaks) in a 67.5 2000 w/ comp springs. Stiff, but I didn't find it that objectionable for a 40yo vehicle.> > Guess it depends on how iron your butt is, hehehehehehe. > > Pete "looking forward to a loooooooong trip in his roadster someday"> > -------------- Original message ----------------------> From: Gary McCormick > > In fairness to Datsun, Miata seats have a couple of decades of ergonomic > > development on the stock seats in our Datsuns - and will be physically much > > newer, to boot!> > > > Gary McCormick> > '70 2000 SRL311-13291> > San Jose, CA> > > > peter harrison wrote: not to be attempted > > without the> > benefit of Miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun could> > have been better at.> > _____________________________________________________________ Great pay, great benefits, rewarding. Click for information on a healthcare career. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4vDOtirb1KN1EjWetVLw4EPM CiETBeUtN0RaSQH3nXncIaFI/ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Dec 13 23:02:45 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:02:45 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country In-Reply-To: <007401c83db7$e2984a80$6601a8c0@ACER4230> Message-ID: <002301c83e16$f29a4be0$6501a8c0@xp> Glad you're okay, but hope you won't mind if I don't share your pics with my wife. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Brown Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:42 AM To: peter harrison; datsun Subject: Re: [Roadsters] X-Country Hey Peter, Glad to hear you had a good trip. I left Atlanta on Tuesday Nov 20th. By Saturday the 24th I had put 3500 miles on the car with no problems. Drove to SE Arizona then on to Salt Lake City. I hear you about not illuminating elk. On the trip back from SLC, about midnight on Saturday I found out first hand. http://www.reblues.net/elk/ I had just gassed up and was getting ready drive through the Salt River Canyon under a full moon with no traffic. Plans changed. Borrowed a car & dolly to get the roadster home. Looks like I have a new autocross car. Oh, and I have not cleaned the patina from the car yet. Richard Brown 70 No windshield car ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country > It appears to me that my emails have not been reaching the list - > inasmuch > as > I have not been receiving copies of emails I have sent. > > Has anyone received anything (other than personally referenced) since > about > November 25th or so. > > You should have received at least 3. > > If anyone would like more details (assuming they have been missed) > please > let > me know. > > Anyhoo,I am back. After 8500+ miles - Eliza is dirty (but not too much > so, thank god she is silver and not black ) - don't know that i would > have attempted such a trip in anything contemporary british (foreign) > ( speaking as a brit ) - she held up fine - muffler problems , bit of > misfiring at @3200 > (occasionally) - but overall what an amazing tribute to japanese > engineering. > Smooth, reasonably powerful (1600), good roadholding (panasports), 5 speed > really makes a difference and personally, not to be attempted wihout the > benefit of miata seats, that in my humble opinion is an area that Datsun > could > have been better at. > > So now I am in a quandry - when to clean her up - she needs to wear > the > patina > of having done what she has done, but equally I don't want her to be a > DIRTY > car. I think I will leave her as she is (patinad (sp?) until the new year > and > then do some SERIOUS detailing. > > So, I have stuff to do, upgrade the lights ( they don't illuminate > deers/elks > at 100 paces), rebuild the suspension (pulls to the left) > > > Anyhoo, I am as previously stated - HOME > ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gregs672liter at netzero.net Thu Dec 13 22:56:41 2007 From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:56:41 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Long lost roadster aholic Message-ID: <20071213.215641.12085.3@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Adictive, aren't they? Welcome back to the fold... Greg Burrows -- Roman Rist wrote: After a very long absence, I have dusted off this old email address and am back on the list. God, I miss Roadsters . Roman --------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________ Get away from it all with a great Caribbean vacation. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4tkZFS5rp0JyLYOkaWRR4eWe tAnzTjekNBZh1wjGxXXhx4ve/ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Dec 13 23:06:17 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:06:17 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT-kinda: For the blues 'bird Message-ID: <002601c83e17$73bb16f0$6501a8c0@xp> The ideal gift for that harmonica blowin' Datsun fan: "not mine" From gregs672liter at netzero.net Thu Dec 13 23:06:31 2007 From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:06:31 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country Message-ID: <20071213.220631.12085.6@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> WOW! That was freakin amazing! You are lucky to be alive. When I was a student at Washington State U a couple of guys were killed in a Z car when they hit a horse. They had full 5 point belts and could not duck. The horse took most of the top of the car off. Glad you are OK! Greg Burrows -- "Pete Peters" wrote: Glad you're okay, but hope you won't mind if I don't share your pics with my wife. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Brown Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:42 AM To: peter harrison; datsun Subject: Re: [Roadsters] X-Country Hey Peter, Glad to hear you had a good trip. I left Atlanta on Tuesday Nov 20th. By Saturday the 24th I had put 3500 miles on the car with no problems. Drove to SE Arizona then on to Salt Lake City. I hear you about not illuminating elk. On the trip back from SLC, about midnight on Saturday I found out first hand. http://www.reblues.net/elk/ I had just gassed up and was getting ready drive through the Salt River Canyon under a full moon with no traffic. Plans changed. Borrowed a car & dolly to get the roadster home. Looks like I have a new autocross car. Oh, and I have not cleaned the patina from the car yet. Richard Brown 70 No windshield car _____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on getting an MBA, $200K/ year potential. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4s3Krnrq49IBTIlfyfdaFp1H ENEiFiwN1vRrGrLKUEGQP9Po/ From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Dec 13 23:33:17 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:33:17 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country Miata Seats Message-ID: The seats in my 70 roadster were rebuilt, with extra padding for the bum and essentially sufficient unto the purpose for the driver(!) but the poor passenger was still sliding around. Hence the Miata conversion. The original seats on the roadster were fine, and probably better than contemporary, but remember that a driver's perspective is a whole lot different than a passengers. They have NOTHING to hold on to, apart from the trust factor that the driver actually knows what he is doing and the roadster seats really dont give 'slidey' support. And I like to occassionally 'nap' - especially on a long run - and napping is not easy in the roadster seats. In summation, the roadsters were a great deal for the money, and in fairness they were not meant to be subjected to 8500+ miles - was any car?? - my comment was merely meant to say that a trip such that I undertook would have been harder if i had had the roadster seats as opposed to the miata conversion Viva La Roadster From RoadsterGB at aol.com Fri Dec 14 05:07:13 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:07:13 EST Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org - December 'Image of the Month' ... Message-ID: ... is a rare image from 1968 of a 2000 in France, driven in anger by F1 driver J.P.Beltoise. _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Dec2007.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Dec2007.htm) Greetings to the list for the Christmas season from England. Rob _www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) From chalsted at comcast.net Fri Dec 14 06:18:43 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:18:43 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] X-country Miata Seats References: Message-ID: <004e01c83e53$da0864d0$850b8318@craigscomputer> hope you only 'nap' on long runs when you're a passenger... ;-) Craig From gsglasgow at comcast.net Fri Dec 14 07:56:46 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:56:46 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org - December 'Image of the Month' ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Great shot! Yeah, I'd say he's pushing it just a bit. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of RoadsterGB at aol.com Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 4:07 AM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] www.fairlady.org - December 'Image of the Month' ... ... is a rare image from 1968 of a 2000 in France, driven in anger by F1 driver J.P.Beltoise. _http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Dec2007.htm_ (http://www.datsun.org/fairlady/Dec2007.htm) Greetings to the list for the Christmas season from England. Rob _www.fairlady.org_ (http://www.fairlady.org) Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mhknorr at msn.com Fri Dec 14 11:51:00 2007 From: mhknorr at msn.com (Michael Knorr) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 11:51:00 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") Message-ID: A couple of years ago I drove from Salt Lake City to Barstow, CA (575 miles), and then on to Solvang the next day (233 miles) in my '66 with stock seats and a tightly rolled pillow beneath the small of my back. The route back was Solvang to St. George, UT (506 miles), then back to Salt Lake City the following day (302 miles), still with my trusty pillow. I probably walked a little funny at first, and the post-drive pain killer I picked up at liquor stores along the way helped, but in all , it wasn't too bad. Regards, Michael Knorr 1966 SPL311-03639 From sales at foilgraphics.com Fri Dec 14 13:30:52 2007 From: sales at foilgraphics.com (Guy) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 13:30:52 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] X-Country References: <20071213.220631.12085.6@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <007c01c83e90$3ee66b40$6e01a8c0@sales2006> My family has lived in Pinetop Lakeside, AZ since 1974. I have traveled that highway (route 60) from metro Phoenix through the Salt River Canyon at least 2,000 to 3,000 times. I have almost hit a javalina, the biggest grey owl that has ever been created, a rock the size of a washing machine, horses, cattle, deer, and vultures. Elk always make me the most nervous. They are as big as a house, like to walk down the center of the road and they move in large groups. I have seen as many as 25 to 50 at a time. They are very unpredictable. They can move fast or stand and look stupid. I am really sorry your number came up. You were very, very lucky. Those suckers kill people on a regular basis. Your car and nose can be repaired and you have one hell of a story to tell. Thanks for the photos. I will slow down. Too bad. That road is really fun to drive....fast. Guy 67.5 Chandler, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] X-Country > WOW! That was freakin amazing! You are lucky to be alive. When I was a > student at Washington State U a couple of guys were killed in a Z car when > they hit a horse. They had full 5 point belts and could not duck. The > horse > took most of the top of the car off. Glad you are OK! > Greg Burrows > > -- "Pete Peters" wrote: > Glad you're okay, but hope you won't mind if I don't share your pics with > my > wife. > > Pete > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Richard Brown > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:42 AM > To: peter harrison; datsun > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] X-Country > > > Hey Peter, > Glad to hear you had a good trip. I left Atlanta on Tuesday Nov 20th. By > Saturday the 24th I had put 3500 miles on the car with no problems. Drove > to SE Arizona then on to Salt Lake City. I hear you about not > illuminating > elk. On the trip back from SLC, about midnight on Saturday I found out > first hand. > > http://www.reblues.net/elk/ > > I had just gassed up and was getting ready drive through the Salt River > Canyon under a full moon with no traffic. Plans changed. > > Borrowed a car & dolly to get the roadster home. Looks like I have a new > autocross car. Oh, and I have not cleaned the patina from the car yet. > > Richard Brown > 70 No windshield car > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Click for free info on getting an MBA, $200K/ year potential. > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4s3Krnrq49IBTIlfyfdaFp1H > ENEiFiwN1vRrGrLKUEGQP9Po/ > ________________________________________ > > sales at foilgraphics.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From reblues at reblues.net Fri Dec 14 13:32:36 2007 From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:32:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] testing Message-ID: <027901c83e90$76a88ef0$6601a8c0@ACER4230> Having problems posting new messages. Can reply but not post new. From slowboy at cox.net Fri Dec 14 14:15:27 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:15:27 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] testing References: <027901c83e90$76a88ef0$6601a8c0@ACER4230> Message-ID: <001301c83e96$73160aa0$0201a8c0@m7170n> Failed, your are suppose to use a #2 lead pencil only. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Brown" To: "Datsun Roadsters" Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: [Roadsters] testing > Having problems posting new messages. Can reply but not post new. From reblues at reblues.net Fri Dec 14 14:15:14 2007 From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:15:14 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Elk encounter Message-ID: <029901c83e96$6bc135e0$6601a8c0@ACER4230> Long narrative. Thank you all for the offers. I am not sure what I will do with the car. I kind of like the looks without a windshield. May just remove the side windows, make a windscreen and drive it. I have plenty of spares, except for a windshield frame. I took the first shake down drive in a 69 roadster I have been working on. Should be on the road with it tomorrow. Not as shiny but will keep the smile on my face. I was doing around 70 when I hit the elk. A full size white pickup was coming up behind to pass. I checked on him in the mirrors, looked forward and there was the elk. He hit his brakes and skidded to a stop about 10 feet from me. The driver said the elk was just getting up when he grazed it with his bumper. After things settled down, while waiting for the flat bed, we borrowed the Highway Patrols big light and search up and down both sides of the road. No elk, no blood. Some hair on the fence but that could have been from anytime.. Score: Elk 1, Roadster 0. Three or four other cars stopped and looked for it as well. Sorry folks, no elk roast this trip. I can almost hear the elk telling her story. "I was out for a moon light walk when this little white beast came flying along and tripped me up. Tore out some hair and scratch my back. I was getting up when it's Poppa came along and hit me again. Figured I'd better hightail it outta there before the whole family showed up!" It was fortunate that my wife had stayed in Az with family while I went to SLC. The elks shoulders went into the passengers side and would have crushed her. Also lucky it was a cow and not a bull. A set of antlers in the car would have not been pretty! My wife's stepdad, Harvey, was up in the area elk hunting at the time. Around 2am I call my wife and ask if Harvey had gotten an elk. When she said no I told her I had. She wasn't amused. I am very lucky. After getting stopped and pulled off the road, I climbed out of the car, gave thanks and did a little jig of joy to be alive. I called AAA, who called the tow truck and gave me the number for a motel in Showlow.. I called the motel and made a reservation. I then called 911. Told them what had happened and that I didn't need any help. After the other driver saw me get out all bloody and doing a dance, he called the paramedics and Highway Patrol. Must have thought I had suffered brain damage. The paramedics came out and in the 18deg cold made me take off my leather coat, windbreaker, and two flannel shirts so they could take my blood pressure! Had to sign papers saying I refused a ride to the hospital. I rode into Showlow with the tow truck driver. We unloaded the car in the motel parking lot. The next day my brother-in-law came up and hauled me the 3 hours back to where we were staying. I think the size of the roadster is what saved me. If I had hit that elk with a larger car I would have slammed into the body. That would be like hitting an 600lb boulder at 70mph. As it was I just took the legs out and it 'mostly' flew over the car. Thankful to still be here! Richard From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Dec 15 01:02:27 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:02:27 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all My hotmail is acting a tad strange but I seem to have stirred up somehwat of a hornet's nest with my comments about the Roadster seats. I too have done significant miles on the stock seats (1200 in 3 days in April) and in the past even more (but then my butt was more muscled) and for the driver, they aren't bad, the PO had extra padding installed in both seats, so sitting they are muy comfy, but when driving somewhat spiritedly, they offer little or no sideways support for the passenger - the driver at least has the wheel, the pedals to brace him/her self- plus he/she knows what direction is going to be taken. And yes, Mazda and everyone else has 20+ years to look at seat ergonomics - Toyota even employed a back specialist ( A Kiwi called McKenzie ) to redesign their seats. One could drive across country sitting on a piece of plywood and survive, but I have found that as a simple conversion the Miata seats offer a low cost, high result level of comfort - especially since they can be fully adjusted for rake while driving, offer inbuilt lumbar support, an enhanced level of 'grip' for sideways motion (espoecially for the passenger) and having inbuilt speakers is for me a plus. Remembering that I chose to drive roadsters when they were used (and unknown) cars, and that I have come back to them after a 20 year hiatus, they are remarkable, mechanically sturdy, structurally sturdy as Richard Brown will attest, fast-ish (1600) and very fast (2000 flavors) - there's just some stuff that time shows up and improvements can be made. Go to Solvang and try to find an 'original' roadster - we have all (mostly) made changes, paint, interior, engines, volvo brakes etc. and that is all contributing to one thing - keep the little buggers on the road for the future - So, my comments, perhaps taken as a criticism, were just what made sense for me. I would have happily maee the same trip in the stock seats, but the Miata ones made more sense (to me) and of course the 'nappability' Peter From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Sat Dec 15 10:16:30 2007 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:16:30 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] stuck hood Message-ID: <000a01c83f3e$3c7dd1a0$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> I can't open the hood on my 69 2000. I think the cable end inside broke or came unhooked. Anybody solved this problem without having to do body work thereafter? Larry From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 15 10:23:26 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:23:26 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Elk encounter In-Reply-To: <029901c83e96$6bc135e0$6601a8c0@ACER4230> References: <029901c83e96$6bc135e0$6601a8c0@ACER4230> Message-ID: <47640D8E.1000503@sbcglobal.net> If you had hit the elk in a vehicle that was tall enough to hit the body and not the legs, the disparity in mass and elasticity of the two bodies involved in the collision (vehicle and animal) would have resulted in massive trauma to the animal, as well as a certain amount of damage to the vehicle, but the animal would have been propelled down the road - so it wouldn't have been like "hitting a boulder". The dangerous thing about hitting an animal like this (elk, deer, moose, horse, cow, etc.) is that they have a large, heavy body that is held high up off of the ground on relatively slender legs, which usually results in the body coming up over the hood and right through the windshield. The Roadster is low enough that the bulk of the mass of the animal went up and over the vehicle; also, because it is a convertible there is no roof structure to stiffen the windshield, resisting the impact and channeling the animal's body through the windshield into the passenger compartment. Bad news for the windshield frame, though... All things considered, you are very lucky to have come through this OK - and lucky that there was no passenger in the car! I was a front seat passenger in a Toyota RAV 4 that was hit by a 4-pointer buck on Hwy 1 on the outskirts of Ft Bragg, CA- I say "hit by" rather than "hit", because the animal came out of some brush at the right side of the road, trotted down the shoulder toward us and then turned to its right and attempted to jump over us to get to the other side of the road. The animal hit the along the top of the windshield, mostly, with its hindquarters impacting the windshield directly in front of me, but enough of the force of the impact was absorbed by the roof that it didn't end up in my lap - thank goodness! It got up and ran off, too - but probably suffered internal injuries that ensured that it didn't live very long after the impact. Gary McCormick '70 2000 SRL311-13291 San Jose, CA Richard Brown wrote: > > >I think the size of the roadster is what saved me. If I had hit that elk with >a larger car I would have slammed into the body. That would be like hitting >an 600lb boulder at 70mph. As it was I just took the legs out and it 'mostly' >flew over the car. > >Thankful to still be here! >Richard >________________________________________ > >gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Sat Dec 15 10:27:27 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:27:27 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] stuck hood In-Reply-To: <000a01c83f3e$3c7dd1a0$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> References: <000a01c83f3e$3c7dd1a0$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: <47640E7F.109@hornesystemstx.com> If you can get to the hood hinge bolts from underneath, take them out and lift the front of the hood enough to get a long hooked piece of stiff wire in to pull the latch arm. After you get it open, add a piece of aircraft control cable or bicycle brake cable from the latch in through a convenient hole in the firewall so if/when it happens again you won't have to go through so much trouble. Each time this comes up I pledge that I will add the emergency cable, but haven't yet! Peace, Pat Thusly spake Larry Braddock: > I can't open the hood on my 69 2000. I think the cable end inside broke or > came unhooked. > Anybody solved this problem without having to do body work thereafter? > > Larry > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From tom at datsun2000.com Sat Dec 15 11:13:05 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:13:05 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] stuck hood In-Reply-To: <47640E7F.109@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: Sorry to hear about your hood problem. Like Pat, I keep telling myself that I am going to put a small rope, or wire rope on the release lever and run it through the firewall or a small hole in the left inner fender so it hangs inside the wheel well area. Even though I inspect the pull cable often, every time I open the hood I wonder if it will open. I think I will go write that task down on my winter work list so I can check it off when it is done. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde 92 Lexus SC400 - Dr. Jeckle http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pat Horne Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 9:27 AM To: Larry Braddock Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck hood If you can get to the hood hinge bolts from underneath, take them out and lift the front of the hood enough to get a long hooked piece of stiff wire in to pull the latch arm. After you get it open, add a piece of aircraft control cable or bicycle brake cable from the latch in through a convenient hole in the firewall so if/when it happens again you won't have to go through so much trouble. Each time this comes up I pledge that I will add the emergency cable, but haven't yet! Peace, Pat Thusly spake Larry Braddock: > I can't open the hood on my 69 2000. I think the cable end inside broke or > came unhooked. > Anybody solved this problem without having to do body work thereafter? > > Larry > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- You are subscribed as tom at datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From reblues at reblues.net Sat Dec 15 11:14:32 2007 From: reblues at reblues.net (Richard Brown) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:14:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] stuck hood References: Message-ID: <033d01c83f46$57f8e890$6601a8c0@ACER4230> What I have done is remove the right front wheel. Then used a long rod to reach up through the wheel well, behind the engine and pushed the hood release lever. Richard Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom @ Datsun2000" To: ; "Larry Braddock" Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck hood > Sorry to hear about your hood problem. Like Pat, I keep telling myself > that > I am going to put a small rope, or wire rope on the release lever and run > it > through the firewall or a small hole in the left inner fender so it hangs > inside the wheel well area. Even though I inspect the pull cable often, > every time I open the hood I wonder if it will open. I think I will go > write that task down on my winter work list so I can check it off when it > is > done. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > 92 Lexus SC400 - Dr. Jeckle > http://www.datsun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Pat Horne > Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 9:27 AM > To: Larry Braddock > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] stuck hood > > > If you can get to the hood hinge bolts from underneath, take them out > and lift the front of the hood enough to get a long hooked piece of > stiff wire in to pull the latch arm. After you get it open, add a piece > of aircraft control cable or bicycle brake cable from the latch in > through a convenient hole in the firewall so if/when it happens again > you won't have to go through so much trouble. > > Each time this comes up I pledge that I will add the emergency cable, > but haven't yet! > > Peace, > Pat > > Thusly spake Larry Braddock: >> I can't open the hood on my 69 2000. I think the cable end inside broke >> or >> came unhooked. >> Anybody solved this problem without having to do body work thereafter? >> >> Larry >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as roadsters at hornesystemstx.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> >> > > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- > You are subscribed as tom at datsun2000.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as reblues at reblues.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From phillip_bee at yahoo.com Sat Dec 15 12:42:36 2007 From: phillip_bee at yahoo.com (Phil Bee) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 11:42:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Free to a good home... Message-ID: <157599.89947.qm@web45601.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Rustbucket PARTs CAR FREE TO A GOOD HOME 1970 Datsun 2000 roadster If you don't have your own car carrier (or access to one) to haul it off, don't even bother. Not tow-able. * Steering Box, Engine, Transmission,& Drive Train Intact. * Driver & Passenger Side windows Reflectors, Door Handles look good. * Car Cover (which is in good shape) included. * Body's pretty well shot. If you've shopped parts, you've seen: Block - $850 Oil Pan - $495 4 Pistons - $450 Rebuilt Carburators - $600 Transmission bell housing - $445 Rebuilt 5-spd Transmission - $2500 Master Cylinder kit - $157 (1984 catalog prices - 22 yrs ago - you do the math - the prices haven't gone down, ya know.) Strip it for your car part needs and/or sell it by the piece for profit. I just needed the headrests, sunvisors, and console buttons. The rest is yours. Serious inquiries only - MD, DC, PA, DE, VA - Available for a look-see on WEEKENDS only. Thanks, Phil. Owings Mills, MD (NE of Baltimore City) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Sat Dec 15 14:25:09 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:25:09 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights Message-ID: Hi list, One thing became apparent to me on this trip that the headlights are not up to night time driving on totally unlit roads. Any suggestions as to what to replace them with? I might later on add driving lights, but for now I want to replace the headlights. Thx Peter 1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) From RWM at RWMann.com Sat Dec 15 14:32:35 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:32:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <476447F3.3090805@RWMann.com> I installed 7" Cibie halogen E-code inserts when I was using the car as a daily commuter on I-20 in Texas in the 1980s. Huge improvement! - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex peter harrison wrote: >Hi list, > >One thing became apparent to me on this trip that the headlights are not up to >night time driving on totally unlit roads. > >Any suggestions as to what to replace them with? I might later on add driving >lights, but for now I want to replace the headlights. > >Thx > >Peter >1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) From drlsmith at dccnet.com Sat Dec 15 14:34:50 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:34:50 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights References: Message-ID: <003b01c83f62$53809620$5e2ccf18@Daryl> Hella and Cibie oth make very good 7" H4 style lights that bolt in, BUT a minor wiring upgrade is recommended. (new feed, relays.......) Hella # 70472 (or maybe #002395801 - both part #'s on the box I have). I tried mine out for the first time last weekend and the improvement is incredible!! Cheers Daryl From dcon48 at yahoo.com Sat Dec 15 15:39:05 2007 From: dcon48 at yahoo.com (rick celis) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:39:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights drain battery Message-ID: <205713.28927.qm@web90410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hello everyone, I am having an electrical problem with my 70 1600. I already replaced my battery, alternator, volt regulator, and starter. My car is still dying only at night when i turn my headlights on. When i turn them on i notive my Amp meter drops dramatically and i have to keep a high rev @ stops so it doesnt die. Does anyone have any suggestions s to what is causing the drain Any info will help. Thank you RC3 70 1600 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From graemes at internode.on.net Sat Dec 15 16:06:45 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:36:45 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights drain battery In-Reply-To: <205713.28927.qm@web90410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <205713.28927.qm@web90410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000c01c83f6f$2a1c0be0$426fa8c0@desktop> When you say your ammeter drops dramatically, that is not normally what happens. With everything operating correctly and engine running, the ammeter SHOULD be sitting just + of the centre zero position. This indicates that the regulator is allowing a small trickle charge to the battery, achieved by a terminal voltage at the battery terminals of ~13.6V. Now, when you connect ANY extra electrical load, the regulator senses this and adjusts the alternator output to compensate for it. You should be able to see all this happen by a momentary flick of the ammeter to zero, or slightly -, then it quickly recovers and returns to the normal position, just + of zero. If you have to rev the engine to maintain operation, there is indeed a problem. Since you have already changed all the relevant hardware, there remains the issue of good connections, including earths, and perhaps mechanical adjustment of the regulator, assuming it is the relay type and not solid state. The actual problem may be a combination of things but it is the regulators job to control the alternators output to cater for the varying loads. Try checking and cleaning ALL wiring connections, you might have to scrape some paint off the regulator base if it earths through the mounting holes. If you are not confidant with analysing the electrical problems, take it to a reputable Auto. Battery Shop. Usually, they can do a complete check of the charging system for nix or little cost. One would expect new parts to be fault free, but stranger things have happened at sea! "Headlights drain battery I already replaced my battery, alternator, volt regulator, and starter. My car is still dying only at night when i turn my headlights on. When i turn them on i notive my Amp meter drops dramatically and i have to keep a high rev @ stops so it doesnt die." No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 14/12/2007 11:29 AM From RHCsports at aol.com Sat Dec 15 16:55:37 2007 From: RHCsports at aol.com (RHCsports at aol.com) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:55:37 EST Subject: [Roadsters] More Roadster Press Message-ID: Hello All, At the Japanese Classic Car Show this past October in Long Beach, I was approached by a Hemmings Sports and Exotics writer to have my '68 1600 featured as one of their Drivable Dreams. Although not a perfect car, it is mostly original and I purchased it from the original owner. The photo shoot was done in November and it looks like it will go to press for the March issue. I just received a preview CD of the photos and it looks sweet. I can't really offer a preview of the pics as they are owned by Hemmings. But keep checking my website for photos of my car ;). Keep them running! Ron _www.higenki.com/roadster_ (http://www.higenki.com/roadster) _www.higenki.com/socalroc_ (http://www.higenki.com/socalroc) So Cal Roadster Owners Club **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Sat Dec 15 17:07:22 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:07:22 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights drain battery In-Reply-To: <205713.28927.qm@web90410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <205713.28927.qm@web90410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <47646C3A.5060509@hornesystemstx.com> I agree with Graeme. Another thing you should check is a slack fan belt. A few questions to figure out exactly what you have: -Is this something new, or has this problem been with you for some time? -Are you running stock alternator/regulator, or an upgraded (GM?) charging system? -Are the headlights stock, or upgraded? -Are all the pulleys stock size? -Are there any signs that the electrical system has been modified? With the engine, key, headlights and any other load turned off, does the ammeter sit at zero? It should. If it reads negative there is a problem with the ammeter which may not need to be corrected., as long as you know that zero is whatever negative reading you saw with everything off and your running reading is at least that high at an idle, you will be fine. If you have a volt meter, with the headlights on, connect it from the battery negative terminal to the positive post on the back of the alternator. You should get about 13.5V at idle. If that is too low the battery will be supplying power to the headlights, causing the ammeter to read negative. Bet it checked out by someone who knows electrical systems.. I am not familiar with the connection so the back of the later year ammeters, but I doubt it would cause this problem, but on my 67.5, they are 1/4" quick disconnects that are sometimes flaky. I know they were on my car and cleaning them up took care of a few mysterious electrical problems I was having. Where are you located? Peace, Pat Thusly spake rick celis: > hello everyone, > I am having an electrical problem with my 70 1600. I > already replaced my battery, alternator, volt > regulator, and starter. My car is still dying only at > night when i turn my headlights on. When i turn them > on i notive my Amp meter drops dramatically and i have > to keep a high rev @ stops so it doesnt die. Does > anyone have any suggestions s to what is causing the > drain Any info will help. > Thank you > RC3 > 70 1600 > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Sat Dec 15 17:37:04 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:37:04 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47647330.9050909@hornesystemstx.com> Be careful when upgrading 1970 Roadster headlights. As I understand it some of the headlights have a metal reflector, which may be connected to the common connection on the bulb. On the 1970 Roadsters this common connection is connected to the hot (12V) line when the headlight switch is on. This will cause a short. As I recall some folks have carefully insulated the reflector, but I wouldn't want to rely on this type of repair to keep my headlights on when driving curvy roads at night! I'd go for a glass reflector, a metal reflector that is electrically isolated from all the bulb connections, or rewire the headlight circuit to alloe the common lead to be grounded. I think the metal reflector problem was on Hella lights. It may be that they aren't built that way any more, but it is worth a check. Peace, Pat Thusly spake peter harrison: > Hi list, > > One thing became apparent to me on this trip that the headlights are not up to > night time driving on totally unlit roads. > > Any suggestions as to what to replace them with? I might later on add driving > lights, but for now I want to replace the headlights. > > Thx > > Peter > 1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Sat Dec 15 17:37:33 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:37:33 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4764734D.5080402@hornesystemstx.com> Be careful when upgrading 1970 Roadster headlights. As I understand it some of the headlights have a metal reflector, which may be connected to the common connection on the bulb. On the 1970 Roadsters this common connection is connected to the hot (12V) line when the headlight switch is on. This will cause a short. As I recall some folks have carefully insulated the reflector, but I wouldn't want to rely on this type of repair to keep my headlights on when driving curvy roads at night! I'd go for a glass reflector, a metal reflector that is electrically isolated from all the bulb connections, or rewire the headlight circuit to allow the common lead to be grounded. I think the metal reflector problem was on Hella lights. It may be that they aren't built that way any more, but it is worth a check. Peace, Pat Thusly spake peter harrison: > Hi list, > > One thing became apparent to me on this trip that the headlights are not up to > night time driving on totally unlit roads. > > Any suggestions as to what to replace them with? I might later on add driving > lights, but for now I want to replace the headlights. > > Thx > > Peter > 1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Dec 15 17:45:39 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:45:39 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004701c83f7c$fe607cd0$6501a8c0@xp> I have heard the Miata seats, while more comfortable, are not the greatest for folks 6-feet and taller. Even removing the seat rails and bolting them straight to the floorpan still results in taller folks in early model (low windshield) roadsters getting hit with wind just above the windshield. Pete From tom at datsun2000.com Sat Dec 15 19:27:31 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:27:31 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") In-Reply-To: <004701c83f7c$fe607cd0$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: You are right about Miata seats being a little higher than the stock roadster seats. In my 69 I removed the sun visor to get a clear view of the road. Then I had to learn how to get into the car without tangling my feet into the pedals. I am 5' 11" tall. A smaller diameter steering wheel would do wonders for that, but now I can slide in and out with ease. Another factor to consider is the roll bar if you have/want one. The Miata seats sit back farther, and the seat backs are adjustable. All of this interferes with the factory roll bar mounts and bringing the bar straight up from the floor behind the seats. In my case I already have a bar intended to be welded to the rear shelf sheet metal (bad idea. I pulled it off of my parts car by hand). I have designed heavy steel mounts that will reach down to the factory holes and the braces will use the brace mounts at the back of the shelf. I just need to be sure everything clears the top frame, which is slightly interfered with by the Miata seat headrests at some tilt settings. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:46 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") I have heard the Miata seats, while more comfortable, are not the greatest for folks 6-feet and taller. Even removing the seat rails and bolting them straight to the floorpan still results in taller folks in early model (low windshield) roadsters getting hit with wind just above the windshield. Pete ________________________________________ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sat Dec 15 19:37:37 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:37:37 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <004e01c83f8c$a2672860$6501a8c0@xp> I'm 6'0" with a low windshield '66. There was a rollbar that I removed. Wife wants it in, but I'm not sure. Sounds like the Miata (and BMW?) seats might decide the issue. The only reason I'm wondering is that all the stitching on my roadster seats is rotting, which means I need to redo 'em or replace 'em. Prefer to do the "best" compromise of price vs comfort. Pete -----Original Message----- From: Tom @ Datsun2000 [mailto:tom at datsun2000.com] Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 6:28 PM To: Pete Peters; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") You are right about Miata seats being a little higher than the stock roadster seats. In my 69 I removed the sun visor to get a clear view of the road. Then I had to learn how to get into the car without tangling my feet into the pedals. I am 5' 11" tall. A smaller diameter steering wheel would do wonders for that, but now I can slide in and out with ease. Another factor to consider is the roll bar if you have/want one. The Miata seats sit back farther, and the seat backs are adjustable. All of this interferes with the factory roll bar mounts and bringing the bar straight up from the floor behind the seats. In my case I already have a bar intended to be welded to the rear shelf sheet metal (bad idea. I pulled it off of my parts car by hand). I have designed heavy steel mounts that will reach down to the factory holes and the braces will use the brace mounts at the back of the shelf. I just need to be sure everything clears the top frame, which is slightly interfered with by the Miata seat headrests at some tilt settings. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pete Peters Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:46 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Miata vs stock seats (was "Re: X-Country") I have heard the Miata seats, while more comfortable, are not the greatest for folks 6-feet and taller. Even removing the seat rails and bolting them straight to the floorpan still results in taller folks in early model (low windshield) roadsters getting hit with wind just above the windshield. Pete ________________________________________ From hallosb at juno.com Sun Dec 16 09:47:11 2007 From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:47:11 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Elk encounter Message-ID: <20071216.094712.2144.0.hallosb@juno.com> Equally long narrative. May have told this story to the list before. Count your blessings. I hit a full grown bull elk (800+ lbs) on a highway near Ruidoso, NM in a '93 Nissan Sentra. The elk came through the front windshield and punched my right shoulder. Glass went flying everywhere. I knew the elk had entered the cabin more towards the passenger side so, I was terrified to look towards my girlfriend sitting in the passenger's seat. It's one of those moments that seem to just run in slow motion. Luckily, she was completely untouched. The elk's chest had hit the roof folding it practically in half. His front hoof is probably what hit my shoulder. The elk tried to stand up but, collapsed and died on the highway. When the wrecker came to pick up the car, first order of business was to drag the elk off the highway. Word gets out quickly when you hit an elk. I had lots of well meaning people make jokes and comments about elk meat, etc. I just have a hard time finding any humor in the accident. If the elk had entered the cabin a foot to either the left or right, the elk may not have been the only one to die that day. Lesson learned. Slow down on those twisty mountain roads in elk country. Especially early morning and dusk, when they're more active. Dan McHatton '66 1600 On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:15:14 -0500 "Richard Brown" writes: Long narrative. Thank you all for the offers. I am not sure what I will do with the car. I am very lucky. After getting stopped and pulled off the road, I climbed out of the car, gave thanks and did a little jig of joy to be alive. From James at jdfogg.com Sun Dec 16 10:00:56 2007 From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:00:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Elk encounter Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571A3@sbs.jdfogg.com> > Word gets out quickly when you hit an elk. I had lots of well meaning > people make jokes and comments about elk meat, etc. I just have a hard > time finding any humor in the accident. If the elk had entered the cabin > a foot to either the left or right, the elk may not have been the only > one to die that day. > > Lesson learned. Slow down on those twisty mountain roads in elk country. > Especially early morning and dusk, when they're more active. I hit a moose a few years ago and lived (the survival rate for that kind of accident is terribly small). The moose didn't make it. It was on a lonely country highway in New Hampshire. And every driver stopped and asked if I was going to keep the meat. 10 years ago NH stopped allowing you to take a road kill. Instead, the NH Game Dept. slaughters the meat and distributes it to needy families via the welfare department. From dhyson at charter.net Sun Dec 16 10:43:15 2007 From: dhyson at charter.net (Durf & Sue Hyson) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:43:15 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re: Elk encounter] Message-ID: <476563B3.802@charter.net> Good thing this was a missive not a missile ! I completely missed the target on the first try. -------- Original Message -------- It is amazing the damage animals can do. In the spring of 94 we were towing our Datsun race car to Pocono for a race weekend. Not that far from the track but still on the highway we came upon a large blood trail on the pavement. We all commented on how big a deer it must have been to leave that big a spot. When we arrived at the track and were setting up a fellow came around asking if we had a sawzall. It seems they had had an accident and needed to cut the roof off of their trailer to try to get the car out. We didn't have the tool but were naturally curious about what was going on so we decided to stroll down and investigate. As we approached we noticed there were a lot of people working on this and that there were a number of policemen and what turned out to be Fish and Game people. As we got closer we could see a big Chevy Dually with a fifth wheel trailer larger that ours. (bigger that 38 ft.) The grill , hood, and front of the truck roof were destroyed and all covered in gore. The windshield was gone and there was a huge hole in the front face of the trailer where it projected above the roof of the truck. The front portion of the roof of the trailer was all bent up in the air and mangled. There were 4 or 5 guys with all kinds of odd tools , including a hatchet who were I the process of cutting the trailer open like a can of sardines You could see looking in the back door there was a tube framed GT-1 Camaro in the trailer. The whole inside of the trailer was covered in blood and you could see the nose bodywork , windshield area and roof of the race car were demolished. Turns out that about 5 A.M. that morning in the half darkness and patchy early morning fog traveling at between 65 and 70 MPH they had hit a 1200 lb bear standing in the middle of the highway. The truck hit the bear which then came up over the hood , skipped off the roof and went through the front of the trailer and wedged into the Camaro. In the end it hit the car with sufficient force to bend the cage enough to jam itself into the car. Extracting it once they got the car out of the trailer required cutting the halo off the cage to extract the body. It was a miracle the two guys in the truck only had some minor injuries , I guess mostly from flying glass. It was an unbelievable sight. Durf Gary McCormick wrote: > The dangerous thing > about hitting an animal like this (elk, deer, moose, horse, cow, etc.) > is that they have a large, heavy body that is held high up off of the > ground on relatively slender legs, which usually results in the body > coming up over the hood and right through the windshield. From VulForge at aol.com Sun Dec 16 11:03:37 2007 From: VulForge at aol.com (VulForge at aol.com) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:03:37 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Miata seats Message-ID: Hello, all! I, like Roman, am back to the list after a hiatus. Interesting to see that many of the same names are still here! My 67 1600 has been progressing in it's rolling restoration. This past year I rebuilt the transmission to replace the leaking front seal that was greasing the clutch. The inside of that gearbox is MUCH more complicated than I would have expected. There was much trial-and-error involved in the disassembly, since the Clymer book doesn't tell you things such as the Rubik's cube movements needed to remove the shift rods. I was eventually successful, and it works great. I took the opportunity while the motor was out to remove 40 years of grease and grime from the frame and POR 15 it. Also I painted the motor and radiator shroud and made them look new. I had the gas tank soldered and sealed and replaced the hard line to the front and restored the glass separator bowl. Is there supposed to be a filter element in there? Les at CDM supplied all the parts and some very helpful advice. Over the winter I plan to finish the interior, including changing to Miata seats and 4-point harness. The stock seats are not bad with the addition of good sheepskin covers, but I would like more lateral and lumbar support, and headrests. Does anyone who has done this conversion have advice? It seems that I will have to build spacers to raise the seat rails since the seat pan is lower than the rails. I am also concerned about clearance between the front edge of the seat and steering wheel. The next problem is the belts. It should be no problem to find places to bolt down the ends, but I need to figure out how to hold up the shoulder ends. On racing-style seats they pass through the seat back. Any good ideas about how to support them with the Miata seats? I hope to get the car comfortable and reliable enough to put some distance on it in 2008. Eric and Steve have formed the start of a Midwest roadster club, but we are separated by hundreds of miles. I envy the Left Coast roadsterites that regularly gather in person! The only other owner I knew here with a running car just moved to Colorado. I'm glad to be back to the forum, and look forward to your suggestions! Russell Criswell Vulcan's Forge 3936 Broadway Kansas City, MO 64111 816-931-6303 816-931-9378 fax 877-531-1048 toll-free www.vulcans-forge.com **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) From phillip_bee at yahoo.com Sun Dec 16 13:32:09 2007 From: phillip_bee at yahoo.com (Phil Bee) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:32:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] The free roadster parts car is gone Message-ID: <463275.42008.qm@web45604.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thanks to all who showed interest in yesterday's post for the free 1970 roadster rustbucket in MD. Craig from VA. came by and picked up the car today. Thanks... Phil ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From lars.tungen at abaris.no Sun Dec 16 14:10:04 2007 From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:10:04 +0100 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual In-Reply-To: <132270.52583.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <014601c84028$07b43820$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> I bought the CD from a seller called "itgetsnobetter". I am confident that this is the same seller that Patti bought from, but the seller has changed his eBay id. The documents on this CD are the same files exactly that is available for download at www.311s.org in the wiki tech section: http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.Manuals The seller has been using these files on his CD without permission to make a profit from the hard work of others. Please don't support this kind of stealing by filling his pockets on eBay. Thanks, Lars Tungen Norway > -----Original Message----- > From: > datsun-roadsters-bounces+lars.tungen=abaris.no at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+lars.tungen=abaris.no at autox.t > eam.net] On Behalf Of Patti Dwinell > Sent: 8. desember 2007 00:53 > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair > Service CD Manual > > Hi, Everyone! > I received my CD in the mail yesterday. It does indeed > contain a 234 page 1500 parts book as the seller claimed. It > is for the 63 single carb, not the 64 double carb model, but > has lots of info and pictures of everything. Much more > extensive than the 1/4 inch "63 supplement" parts book, that > is also included on the CD. > It is everything he claimed and has lots of info. What it is > not, is a "Chilton's" or "Clymer's", but I'm pleased. > I tried to leave feedback for the seller, but he is no longer > registered on Ebay. > Hmmmm...interesting. > Patti > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > ________________________________________ > > lars.tungen at abaris.no > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release > Date: 07.12.2007 13:11 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1185 - Release Date: 15.12.2007 12:00 From les at classicdatsun.com Sun Dec 16 14:57:34 2007 From: les at classicdatsun.com (Les Cannaday) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:57:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Fastback Hardtop on eBay Message-ID: <790771.46375.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am sure some of you remember this unique hardtop from Thunderhill in 1998 It has been sitting here at CDM ever since and needs to find a new owner. Here is the eBay listing: http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29296-2357-0?uid=41459632&site=0&ver=LCA080805&item=150196388381&lk=URL If someone on the List is interested, contact me direct at les at classicdatsun.com Les Cannaday Classic Datsun Motorsports 345 Olive Ave Vista, CA 92083 (760) 940-6365 (866) 591-1829 - toll-free fax From brianrreynolds at yahoo.com Sun Dec 16 15:17:03 2007 From: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com (Brian Reynolds) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:17:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Elk encounter In-Reply-To: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571A3@sbs.jdfogg.com> Message-ID: <574161.5975.qm@web62408.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Before I got into Roadsters, I rode motorcycles. One day, while riding on a gravel road at about 70mph, a crow flew straight into my helmet, hitting me in the forehead. I remember seeing this black blob and huge black wings coming straight at me. I looked over my shoulder and saw it falling into the ditch. I went back to put it out of its misery if necessary, and saw it had a broken neck and two broken legs. It's a miracle I didn't crash, but I had a headache for 3 days. I'm glad I'm in a Roadster now, and one with a rollbar too. -Brian Toronto '69 2000 --- James Fogg wrote: > > Word gets out quickly when you hit an elk. I had lots of well meaning > > people make jokes and comments about elk meat, etc. I just have a > hard > > time finding any humor in the accident. If the elk had entered the > cabin > > a foot to either the left or right, the elk may not have been the only > > one to die that day. > > > > Lesson learned. Slow down on those twisty mountain roads in elk > country. > > Especially early morning and dusk, when they're more active. > > I hit a moose a few years ago and lived (the survival rate for that kind > of accident is terribly small). The moose didn't make it. > > It was on a lonely country highway in New Hampshire. And every driver > stopped and asked if I was going to keep the meat. 10 years ago NH > stopped allowing you to take a road kill. Instead, the NH Game Dept. > slaughters the meat and distributes it to needy families via the welfare > department. > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as brianrreynolds at yahoo.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com From tom at datsun2000.com Sun Dec 16 15:22:14 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:22:14 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual In-Reply-To: <014601c84028$07b43820$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> Message-ID: There is a copy of the 63 parts manual update on datsun2000.com if anyone wants it. This is a high quality, fully searchable, PDF file. You can download the whole thing, or just the section you are interested in. Anyone not intending to try to sell it is welcome to download it from the TECH page. http://www.datsun2000.com/tech/1500_manual/ Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Lars Tungen Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:10 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual I bought the CD from a seller called "itgetsnobetter". I am confident that this is the same seller that Patti bought from, but the seller has changed his eBay id. The documents on this CD are the same files exactly that is available for download at www.311s.org in the wiki tech section: http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.Manuals The seller has been using these files on his CD without permission to make a profit from the hard work of others. Please don't support this kind of stealing by filling his pockets on eBay. Thanks, Lars Tungen Norway > -----Original Message----- > From: > datsun-roadsters-bounces+lars.tungen=abaris.no at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+lars.tungen=abaris.no at autox.t > eam.net] On Behalf Of Patti Dwinell > Sent: 8. desember 2007 00:53 > To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair > Service CD Manual > > Hi, Everyone! > I received my CD in the mail yesterday. It does indeed > contain a 234 page 1500 parts book as the seller claimed. It > is for the 63 single carb, not the 64 double carb model, but > has lots of info and pictures of everything. Much more > extensive than the 1/4 inch "63 supplement" parts book, that > is also included on the CD. > It is everything he claimed and has lots of info. What it is > not, is a "Chilton's" or "Clymer's", but I'm pleased. > I tried to leave feedback for the seller, but he is no longer > registered on Ebay. > Hmmmm...interesting. > Patti > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > ________________________________________ > > lars.tungen at abaris.no > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release > Date: 07.12.2007 13:11 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1185 - Release Date: 15.12.2007 12:00 From mark at dealermats.com Sun Dec 16 15:20:30 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:20:30 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual References: <014601c84028$07b43820$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> Message-ID: <001301c84031$df493070$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> It looks like he does it with a bunch of cars. It is tough to say he is profiting from the work of others when the files that are posted on 311s are themselves copyrighted by Nissan, and should not be there..... Mark Maryland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars Tungen" To: Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair Service CD Manual >I bought the CD from a seller called "itgetsnobetter". I am confident that > this is the same seller that Patti bought from, but the seller has changed > his eBay id. The documents on this CD are the same files exactly that is > available for download at www.311s.org in the wiki tech section: > http://www.311s.org/pmwiki-311/pmwiki.php?n=TechSection.Manuals > > The seller has been using these files on his CD without permission to make > a > profit from the hard work of others. Please don't support this kind of > stealing by filling his pockets on eBay. > > Thanks, > Lars Tungen > Norway > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> datsun-roadsters-bounces+lars.tungen=abaris.no at autox.team.net >> [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+lars.tungen=abaris.no at autox.t >> eam.net] On Behalf Of Patti Dwinell >> Sent: 8. desember 2007 00:53 >> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >> Subject: [Roadsters] Datsun Roadster 1500 1600 2000 Repair >> Service CD Manual >> >> Hi, Everyone! >> I received my CD in the mail yesterday. It does indeed >> contain a 234 page 1500 parts book as the seller claimed. It >> is for the 63 single carb, not the 64 double carb model, but >> has lots of info and pictures of everything. Much more >> extensive than the 1/4 inch "63 supplement" parts book, that >> is also included on the CD. >> It is everything he claimed and has lots of info. What it is >> not, is a "Chilton's" or "Clymer's", but I'm pleased. >> I tried to leave feedback for the seller, but he is no longer >> registered on Ebay. >> Hmmmm...interesting. >> Patti >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. >> ________________________________________ >> >> lars.tungen at abaris.no >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1177 - Release >> Date: 07.12.2007 13:11 >> >> > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1185 - Release Date: > 15.12.2007 > 12:00 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mark at dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From graemes at internode.on.net Sun Dec 16 15:28:32 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:58:32 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Elk encounter In-Reply-To: <574161.5975.qm@web62408.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571A3@sbs.jdfogg.com> <574161.5975.qm@web62408.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c84032$fdaac9b0$426fa8c0@desktop> Well, if you are going to bring motorcycles into the discussion.... Had a bee lodge between my helmet and my right ear once. Ever tried to peel off a helmet, at speed, and steer at the same time to a safe stop? Little sucker stung me of course and it hurt like HELL! Lot to be said for full face helmets, especially when riding through a grasshopper plague, ewwwwrrrr! "Elk encounter . It's a miracle I didn't crash, but I had a headache for 3 days." No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 14/12/2007 11:29 AM From d-solomon at comcast.net Sun Dec 16 15:58:42 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:58:42 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Elk encounter In-Reply-To: <000f01c84032$fdaac9b0$426fa8c0@desktop> References: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571A3@sbs.jdfogg.com> <574161.5975.qm@web62408.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <000f01c84032$fdaac9b0$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <4765ADA2.4060801@comcast.net> I have a shelf full of "trophy helmets", one of which has a very large nick taken out of the top right quarter, where a piece of lumber scrap was kicked-up by a set of duallys in front of me, and popped me a glancing blow as I ducked to try to avoid it. i will never, never understand those who won't wear helmets. Graeme wrote: > Well, if you are going to bring motorcycles into the discussion.... > Had a bee lodge between my helmet and my right ear once. > Ever tried to peel off a helmet, at speed, and steer at the same time to a > safe stop? > Little sucker stung me of course and it hurt like HELL! > Lot to be said for full face helmets, especially when riding through a > grasshopper plague, ewwwwrrrr! > > "Elk encounter > > . It's a miracle I didn't crash, but I had a headache for 3 days." > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1184 - Release Date: 14/12/2007 > 11:29 AM > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mikef at carolina.rr.com Sun Dec 16 19:07:43 2007 From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:07:43 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights References: Message-ID: <011e01c84051$9cbd7610$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884> Peter, i bought the sylvannia halogen. they work good mike f ----- Original Message ----- From: "peter harrison" To: "datsun" Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights > Hi list, > > One thing became apparent to me on this trip that the headlights are not > up to > night time driving on totally unlit roads. > > Any suggestions as to what to replace them with? I might later on add > driving > lights, but for now I want to replace the headlights. > > Thx > > Peter > 1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikef at carolina.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.2/1185 - Release Date: > 12/15/2007 12:00 PM From gsglasgow at comcast.net Sun Dec 16 22:11:42 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:11:42 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Hello Message-ID: I got this today from a Michael Cavenaugh in Bakersfield, CA. He sent me some pictures in a separate note and I've uploaded them here: http://www.gordon-glasgow.org/Michael_Cavenaugh_70_1600_FS/Lister.asp If you are interested, please contact the seller directly at mrlugubrious at hotmail.com Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: Michael Cavenaugh [mailto:mrlugubrious at hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 8:39 AM To: me at gordon-glasgow.org Subject: Hello I have an entire 1970 Datsun 1600 basket case roadster sitting on my trailer. It was a restoration that ran out of steam. There is an entire rolling chassis with the body mounted, padded dash ect. All engine components, trans, are out. Chrome work is off and has been restored. Extra parts too. Do you have any suggestions to where I should seek to unload this car? I will accept any reasonable offer......mike From daveandlindab at comcast.net Sun Dec 16 22:28:57 2007 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 00:28:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights In-Reply-To: <011e01c84051$9cbd7610$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884> Message-ID: <009001c8406d$ba442460$6600a8c0@chrissy> A good set of lights, whatever you choose will still need more power. Victoria British sells a relay and harness kit, around $30.00. Heavy gauge wire, 2 relays, plugs into the factory harness. I've seen it, it's well made. Hard part is getting the plugs through the small Datsun grommets. You would need to remove the terminals from the plugs and re assemble. LMC Truck (same company as Victoria British)has it online too http://lmctruck.com/icatalog/fa/0043.asp I have a set of old H4 Cibie, work great. With a GM alternator, you can use 55/100watt bulbs. Dave Brisco > Hi list, > > One thing became apparent to me on this trip that the headlights are > not > up to > night time driving on totally unlit roads. > > Any suggestions as to what to replace them with? I might later on add > driving > lights, but for now I want to replace the headlights. > > Thx > > Peter > 1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Dec 17 05:46:00 2007 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:46:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights In-Reply-To: <009001c8406d$ba442460$6600a8c0@chrissy> Message-ID: <950730.17598.qm@web82812.mail.mud.yahoo.com> i've seen a similar kit at autozone dave wrote: A good set of lights, whatever you choose will still need more power. Victoria British sells a relay and harness kit, around $30.00. Heavy gauge wire, 2 relays, plugs into the factory harness. I've seen it, it's well made. Hard part is getting the plugs through the small Datsun grommets. You would need to remove the terminals from the plugs and re assemble. LMC Truck (same company as Victoria British)has it online too http://lmctruck.com/icatalog/fa/0043.asp I have a set of old H4 Cibie, work great. With a GM alternator, you can use 55/100watt bulbs. Dave Brisco From RoadsterGB at aol.com Mon Dec 17 07:18:02 2007 From: RoadsterGB at aol.com (RoadsterGB at aol.com) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:18:02 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster air filter question ... Message-ID: ... from a guy named Scott Pickford on the Datsun Fairlady Roadster Group on Facebook (now over 50 members!). I've recommended he joins the list. In the meantime, here's the question: << I have been playing with the idea of installing what has been called a cold air box and cone filter instead of the stock air filter assembly. My proposal is as follows: I own a 69 2000 using the existing filter housing, I am going to place sheetmetal around the outer perimeter as a spacer and cut in an intake. This will be piped to a cone filter that will be set beside the radiator (I may need to shift the radiator) and direcly behind the front grille, so it is taking in cold air. Allegedly this will increase horsepower. Since my car is currently being dismanteled down to the frame, I have lots of time to play with ideas dumb idea or does it have merit? >> From d-solomon at comcast.net Mon Dec 17 08:05:20 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:05:20 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster air filter question ... Message-ID: <121720071505.10791.47669030000525F300002A2722007340760201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> my experience (not Roadster Specific): everything else equal, he "might" notice a horse or two. not much more. Now, if he were boosted (either turbo or centrifigal blower) then the temp of the cylinder charge would be a larger issue, and he may see more than that. Or if he were to create a true "Ram-Air", then he could also see some bigger increases, assuming the cylinder head could flow it. But a simple cold-air intake will net him much on a stock motor. IMHO only. Dan -------------- Original message -------------- From: RoadsterGB at aol.com > ... from a guy named Scott Pickford on the Datsun Fairlady Roadster Group on > Facebook (now over 50 members!). I've recommended he joins the list. In the > meantime, here's the question: > > << I have been playing with the idea of installing what has been called a > cold air box and cone filter instead of the stock air filter assembly. My > proposal is as follows: I own a 69 2000 using the existing filter housing, I am > going to place sheetmetal around the outer perimeter as a spacer and cut in an > intake. This will be piped to a cone filter that will be set beside the > radiator (I may need to shift the radiator) and direcly behind the front > grille, > so it is taking in cold air. Allegedly this will increase horsepower. > > Since my car is currently being dismanteled down to the frame, I have lots > of time to play with ideas > > dumb idea or does it have merit? >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Mon Dec 17 12:34:17 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:34:17 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Calvin & Hobbs winter weirdness - Reminds me of this list! Message-ID: <4766CF39.80502@hornesystemstx.com> Since this list doesn't allow for attachments, I have included them in the body. Thought youd like these. A twisted sense of humor helps! Wish we had snow like this to try a few! Peace, Pat * ** *** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** * * -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Mon Dec 17 12:46:56 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:46:56 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Calvin & Hobbs winter weirdness - Reminds me of this list! In-Reply-To: <4766CF39.80502@hornesystemstx.com> References: <4766CF39.80502@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <4766D230.7050701@hornesystemstx.com> Oh well, it didn't work. I tried putting the cartoons up on my web site, http://www.hornesystemstx.com under photos, but it didn't work. I'll try some more. These are really worth seeing! Thusly spake Pat Horne: > Since this list doesn't allow for attachments, I have included them in > the body. > > Thought youd like these. A twisted sense of humor helps! Wish we had > snow like this to try a few! > > Peace, > Pat > > * ** *** > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** * > * > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Mon Dec 17 13:22:34 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:22:34 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Calvin & Hobbs winter weirdness - Reminds me of this list! In-Reply-To: <4766CF39.80502@hornesystemstx.com> References: <4766CF39.80502@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <4766DA8A.5020406@hornesystemstx.com> Thusly spake Pat Horne: > Since this list doesn't allow for attachments, I have included them in > the body. > > Thought you'd like these. A twisted sense of humor helps! Wish we had > snow like this to try a few! > > Peace, > Pat > OK, it works now http://www.hornesystemstx.com Go to Photos then Calvin & Hobbs. -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Mon Dec 17 14:16:15 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:16:15 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Window Winder Thingie Message-ID: Thanks for input on headlights - Has anyone taken apart the window winder up/down mechanism? Mine jammed - there is a small piece of metal that looks like it does something that came loose and therefore I have NO IDEA where to put it back. I could break down the one I got from Craig, but am reluctant to so do. All advice would help Peter 1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) From gsglasgow at comcast.net Mon Dec 17 15:10:31 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:10:31 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Calvin & Hobbs winter weirdness - Reminds me of this list! In-Reply-To: <4766DA8A.5020406@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: I loved Calvin & Hobbes! Since we're on the topic of weirdness, check out some of these pumpkin ideas for next year: http://www.extremepumpkins.com/index.html Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Pat Horne Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:23 PM To: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Cc: roadster List Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Calvin & Hobbs winter weirdness - Reminds me of this list! Thusly spake Pat Horne: > Since this list doesn't allow for attachments, I have included them in > the body. > > Thought you'd like these. A twisted sense of humor helps! Wish we had > snow like this to try a few! > > Peace, > Pat > OK, it works now http://www.hornesystemstx.com Go to Photos then Calvin & Hobbs. -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mikef at carolina.rr.com Mon Dec 17 16:05:44 2007 From: mikef at carolina.rr.com (Mike Faggart) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:05:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Calvin & Hobbs winter weirdness - Reminds me of this list! References: <4766CF39.80502@hornesystemstx.com> <4766DA8A.5020406@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <008e01c84101$5a5ce7f0$0200a8c0@reginacb41e884> Thanks Pat, that was good! mike faggart seroc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Horne" To: Cc: "roadster List" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Calvin & Hobbs winter weirdness - Reminds me of this list! > Thusly spake Pat Horne: >> Since this list doesn't allow for attachments, I have included them in >> the body. >> >> Thought you'd like these. A twisted sense of humor helps! Wish we had >> snow like this to try a few! >> >> Peace, >> Pat >> > OK, it works now http://www.hornesystemstx.com Go to Photos then Calvin > & Hobbs. > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikef at carolina.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: > 12/17/2007 2:13 PM From daveandlindab at comcast.net Mon Dec 17 19:09:31 2007 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:09:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster air filter question ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00bd01c8411b$0923c240$6600a8c0@chrissy> I started doing this on my 69 2000. First thing is relocating the washer pump and reservior, fits nicley in the pass front corner if you remove the fuel filter bracket. There is very little room between the radiator and body you have to snake around the coolant tank. For a nice easy air box, don't laugh...Home Depot sells a stainless steel spackle pan, exactly the right size. About 4 inches wide on top, 3 inches at the bottom 12 " long. You would put it open side up, drill and cut holes in the side for the carbs, and fabricate a top. It's air tight polished stainless steel, and in-expensive. Bolt a 3" hose fitting on the end and hook up the air tube. Make sure you punch all the holes for the carbs, air inlet, 2 for the bolts and the other 2 holes are air vents to the piston. Dave Brisco -----Original Message----- From: RoadsterGB at aol.com [mailto:RoadsterGB at aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 9:18 AM To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster air filter question ... ... from a guy named Scott Pickford on the Datsun Fairlady Roadster Group on Facebook (now over 50 members!). I've recommended he joins the list. In the meantime, here's the question: << I have been playing with the idea of installing what has been called a cold air box and cone filter instead of the stock air filter assembly. My proposal is as follows: I own a 69 2000 using the existing filter housing, I am going to place sheetmetal around the outer perimeter as a spacer and cut in an intake. This will be piped to a cone filter that will be set beside the radiator (I may need to shift the radiator) and direcly behind the front grille, so it is taking in cold air. Allegedly this will increase horsepower. Since my car is currently being dismanteled down to the frame, I have lots of time to play with ideas dumb idea or does it have merit? >> From sandhoff at csus.edu Mon Dec 17 19:26:37 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:26:37 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster air filter question ... In-Reply-To: <00bd01c8411b$0923c240$6600a8c0@chrissy> References: Message-ID: <4766BF5D.13403.1EAA1FD@localhost> > ...For a nice easy air box, don't laugh...Home Depot sells a > stainless steel spackle pan, exactly the right size. How do you compensate for the loss of the venturi stacks that are built into the stock air cleaner? Has anyone stuck a temp probe under the hood against (or inside) the air cleaner to determine if the existing air is really that hot (at speed, not at idle)? -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From RWM at RWMann.com Mon Dec 17 19:38:48 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:38:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster air filter question ... In-Reply-To: <4766BF5D.13403.1EAA1FD@localhost> References: <4766BF5D.13403.1EAA1FD@localhost> Message-ID: <476732B8.3020408@RWMann.com> John F Sandhoff wrote: ...For a nice easy air box, don't laugh...Home Depot sells a stainless steel spackle pan, exactly the right size. How do you compensate for the loss of the venturi stacks that are built into the stock air cleaner? Has anyone stuck a temp probe under the hood against (or inside) the air cleaner to determine if the existing air is really that hot (at speed, not at idle)? -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA Or for that matter, what is the under-hood static pressure, what are the air flow rates through and around the radiator (speed not idle), and are those affected by blanking the apertures beside the radiator, or by use of a "spook" or deeper air scoop below the radiator? Gentlemen, get out your manometers... - RWM . From graemes at internode.on.net Mon Dec 17 20:09:38 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:39:38 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster air filter question ... In-Reply-To: <4766BF5D.13403.1EAA1FD@localhost> References: <4766BF5D.13403.1EAA1FD@localhost> Message-ID: <000901c84123$6dab9000$426fa8c0@desktop> "How do you compensate for the loss of the venturi stacks that are built into the stock air cleaner?" Good point, they would have to be replaced possibly with some conventional straight ram tubes/velocity stacks. An alternative to expensive ram tubes is four monumental vases. These are made of spun aluminium and have a full radiused edge on the throat. I bought 4 of these to build some ram tubes for a set of individual throttle bodies I am making for an FJ20. "Has anyone stuck a temp probe under the hood against (or inside) the air cleaner to determine if the existing air is really that hot (at speed, not at idle)?" Haven't with a Roadster but years ago when I got my FJ20 engine conversion running in my 510, I started off with a simple underbonnet intake for the plastic box air cleaner. The Haltec ECU has an inlet air temp sensor which I was monitoring on a laptop. The inlet temps. were through the roof! I then built a 75mm plastic duct to run from the base of the aircleaner box to the radiator panel. It was then taking air from outside the engine bay. Can't remember the actual numbers but the intake temp dropped from 60+deg C to ambient, just like that. The reason I used a 75mm duct was that I had a selection of stormwater fittings in the garage doing nothing :) I could feel the engine was a LOT stronger when accellerating and was really potent on a cool morning!! Once you route the intake air through an air cleaner, panel or round, any ram air affect is largely lost in my opinion. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 16/12/2007 11:36 AM From d-solomon at comcast.net Mon Dec 17 21:51:04 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:51:04 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster air filter question ... In-Reply-To: <000901c84123$6dab9000$426fa8c0@desktop> References: <4766BF5D.13403.1EAA1FD@localhost> <000901c84123$6dab9000$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <476751B8.4030107@comcast.net> Actually, I've seen alot of gains from a true Ram Air setup (again, not on a roadster), but the key is to actually build pressure 9r shall we say "reduce vacuum"). Most ram-air setups don't scavenge efficiently, or seal well enough. And then I agree with you that ANY obstruction will negate the potential for gain. Graeme wrote: > "How do you compensate for the loss of the venturi stacks that are built > into the stock air cleaner?" > > Good point, they would have to be replaced possibly with some conventional > straight ram tubes/velocity stacks. An alternative to expensive ram tubes is > four monumental vases. These are made of spun aluminium and have a full > radiused edge on the throat. I bought 4 of these to build some ram tubes for > a set of individual throttle bodies I am making for an FJ20. > > > "Has anyone stuck a temp probe under the hood against (or inside) the air > cleaner to determine if the existing air is really that hot (at speed, not > at idle)?" > > Haven't with a Roadster but years ago when I got my FJ20 engine conversion > running in my 510, I started off with a simple underbonnet intake for the > plastic box air cleaner. The Haltec ECU has an inlet air temp sensor which I > was monitoring on a laptop. The inlet temps. were through the roof! I then > built a 75mm plastic duct to run from the base of the aircleaner box to the > radiator panel. It was then taking air from outside the engine bay. Can't > remember the actual numbers but the intake temp dropped from 60+deg C to > ambient, just like that. The reason I used a 75mm duct was that I had a > selection of stormwater fittings in the garage doing nothing :) > I could feel the engine was a LOT stronger when accellerating and was really > potent on a cool morning!! > > Once you route the intake air through an air cleaner, panel or round, any > ram air affect is largely lost in my opinion. > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 16/12/2007 > 11:36 AM > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drlsmith at dccnet.com Mon Dec 17 22:17:44 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:17:44 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: Calvin & Hobbs winter weirdness - Reminds me of this list! References: <4766CF39.80502@hornesystemstx.com> <4766DA8A.5020406@hornesystemstx.com> Message-ID: <005701c84135$52b0cdd0$5e2ccf18@Daryl> My two favourite cartoons: "Calvin and Hobbes" and "Herman"! Hardly hear of them anymore....... :-( Thanks! Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Horne" Subject: Re: [Roadsters] OT: Calvin & Hobbs winter weirdness - Reminds me of this list! > OK, it works now http://www.hornesystemstx.com Go to Photos then Calvin > & Hobbs. > > -- > Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems > (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 > Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 > www.hornesystemstx.com > -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Mon Dec 17 22:51:39 2007 From: larrybraddock at ca.rr.com (Larry Braddock) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:51:39 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs Message-ID: <000a01c8413a$0f6fe880$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> I've got a couple of carbs off a 66 1600 that are gummed up and won't let fuel flow thru from sitting with gas in them for who knows how long. Anybody with experience cleaning these up. I was going to dunk them in carb cleaner, but want to make sure it won't damage anything inside. I've also heard Pine Sol works well as a carb cleaner. Thanks, Larry From stebharvey at ameritech.net Tue Dec 18 02:59:31 2007 From: stebharvey at ameritech.net (steb) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:59:31 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws Message-ID: <01c101c8415c$b0466820$0574fea9@steb1> Group, I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project car. As I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a track car, right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that harness sets are not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them anyway thinking that it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a dead upstanding citizen. Are harnesses legal in other states for street use? Steve From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Dec 18 03:55:15 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:25:15 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs In-Reply-To: <000a01c8413a$0f6fe880$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> References: <000a01c8413a$0f6fe880$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: <000601c84164$78e3a8e0$426fa8c0@desktop> I have found that if you use a carb cleaner first, then it gets fairly expensive to clean them up. My advice is to scrub them up with a variety of brushes and a good degreaser to a point where they look reasonable, then use a carb cleaner. You still need to use a brush with the carb cleaner to loosen all the ingrained crap. In other words, use a cheap cleaner to remove the worst of the grime, then spend some money to remove the remainder :) I don't think any solvent used will damage the internals but you will probably need to replace all the gaskets anyway. Personally, I like to grit blast the cast pieces to get them really squeaky clean. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 17/12/2007 2:13 PM From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Dec 18 03:49:55 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:49:55 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws References: <01c101c8415c$b0466820$0574fea9@steb1> Message-ID: <013d01c84165$713ec2e0$ba21ffd8@hpcustomer> Steve, In Ohio, and I would assume most states, seat belts have to be DOT approved. Most race 5 and 6 point belts aren't, simply because of the cost of testing. The belts are most likely safer than DOT specs, but that may be an argument you don't want to have with your insurance company some day! Schroth makes a DOT approved 4 point system, http://www.schroth.com , and I think they may be a few others now making approved systems. Summit Racing carries Schroth. Paul Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: steb > Group, > > I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project > car. As I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a > track car, right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that > harness sets are not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them > anyway thinking that it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a > dead upstanding citizen. Are harnesses legal in other states for street > use? > > Steve From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Dec 18 04:05:21 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:35:21 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws In-Reply-To: <01c101c8415c$b0466820$0574fea9@steb1> References: <01c101c8415c$b0466820$0574fea9@steb1> Message-ID: <000c01c84165$e1fdad20$426fa8c0@desktop> The 5 point harness is probably MUCH better than your average 3 point but the big problem is that the manufacturer has, for whatever reason, not had them "complied" with your Transport authority. While that may seem an annoyance, think about your Insurance. If, forbid, you need to make a claim and your belts are not legal, what then! I'm with you, they are a far better restraint than anything that was factory fitted, BUT, here in Oz, the car can be defected for having better seatbelts than OEM, simply because they are not DOT approved. Did someone say that the Law is an ASS? "5-point harness laws" Group, I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project car. As I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a track car, right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that harness sets are not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them anyway thinking that it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a dead upstanding citizen. Are harnesses legal in other states for street use? Steve No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 17/12/2007 2:13 PM From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Dec 18 04:06:36 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:06:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs References: <000a01c8413a$0f6fe880$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> <000601c84164$78e3a8e0$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <014f01c84166$1a906740$ba21ffd8@hpcustomer> Be careful 'blasting' the SU domes. Outside only! And keep the pistons matched with the domes they came with. Try starting fluid to clean with. Cheaper and a lot easier on your health than most carb cleaners. Just don't use it indoors or near an open flame. BTDT Paul Ohio ----- Original Message ----- > I have found that if you use a carb cleaner first, then it gets fairly > expensive to clean them up. > My advice is to scrub them up with a variety of brushes and a good degreaser > to a point where they look reasonable, then use a carb cleaner. > You still need to use a brush with the carb cleaner to loosen all the > ingrained crap. > In other words, use a cheap cleaner to remove the worst of the grime, then > spend some money to remove the remainder :) > I don't think any solvent used will damage the internals but you will > probably need to replace all the gaskets anyway. > Personally, I like to grit blast the cast pieces to get them really squeaky > clean. From RWM at RWMann.com Tue Dec 18 04:33:59 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:33:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws In-Reply-To: <000c01c84165$e1fdad20$426fa8c0@desktop> References: <01c101c8415c$b0466820$0574fea9@steb1> <000c01c84165$e1fdad20$426fa8c0@desktop> Message-ID: <4767B027.7020309@RWMann.com> I looked into this in New York when considering 5-point belts/harnesses. I was told that the issue of manufacturer/vehicle compliance is not an issue, and that "SFI approved" is equivalent to "DOT approved." You are of course responsible for installing them correctly, including using manufacturer mounting points and/or backing up any supplementary mounting points. The SCCA guidelines for shoulder strap and submarine strap angles relative to torso location are helpful. And for driving safely... - Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex Graeme wrote: >The 5 point harness is probably MUCH better than your average 3 point but >the big problem is that the manufacturer has, for whatever reason, not had >them "complied" with your Transport authority. >While that may seem an annoyance, think about your Insurance. >If, forbid, you need to make a claim and your belts are not legal, what >then! >I'm with you, they are a far better restraint than anything that was factory >fitted, BUT, here in Oz, the car can be defected for having better seatbelts >than OEM, simply because they are not DOT approved. >Did someone say that the Law is an ASS? > >"5-point harness laws" > >Group, > >I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project car. As >I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a track car, >right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that harness sets are >not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them anyway thinking that >it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a dead upstanding citizen. >Are harnesses legal in other states for street use? > >Steve From James at jdfogg.com Tue Dec 18 05:48:57 2007 From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:48:57 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571AF@sbs.jdfogg.com> > Try starting fluid to clean with. Cheaper and a lot easier on your > health > than most carb cleaners. Just don't use it indoors or near an open flame. > BTDT S Starting fluid is ether. It vaporizes faster and at lower temperatures than anything else in your shop and it's insanely flammable. Its vapors are also a powerful anesthesia agent and used to be used for surgical anesthesia. Use caution. I almost lost a barn to a fire caused by starting fluid used on an old tractor on a cold morning. I had a lot of hay on the floor that made it real interesting. All I had to put out the fire with was a rake and shovel. From d-solomon at comcast.net Tue Dec 18 07:11:52 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:11:52 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws Message-ID: <121820071411.6906.4767D528000585E100001AFA22007456720201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> This is reminiscent of the Motorcycle helmet issue. DOT and SNELL are the 2 main certifiers, Snell being a "higher" standard in most testing. It's been shown in study after study that a SNELL approved helmet works better in a multitude of situations that one would encounter in a motorcycle accident. But the US DOT continues to use an antiquated (and in my opinion very unlikely to occur) type of impact test as the standard of approved or not approved. And so the SNELL helmets, which are by far superior in every way, (and the standard for use in Europe and Asia), do not satisfy the law (or insurance companies) in the U.S. in places where helmet use is mandatory. It's a little ridiculous that it is so difficult and expensive to get something approved for the road. We miss out on ALOT of great products in the US, simply because of the litigious nature of our society. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Graeme" > The 5 point harness is probably MUCH better than your average 3 point but > the big problem is that the manufacturer has, for whatever reason, not had > them "complied" with your Transport authority. > While that may seem an annoyance, think about your Insurance. > If, forbid, you need to make a claim and your belts are not legal, what > then! > I'm with you, they are a far better restraint than anything that was factory > fitted, BUT, here in Oz, the car can be defected for having better seatbelts > than OEM, simply because they are not DOT approved. > Did someone say that the Law is an ASS? > > "5-point harness laws" > > Group, > > I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project car. As > I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a track car, > right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that harness sets are > not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them anyway thinking that > it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a dead upstanding citizen. > Are harnesses legal in other states for street use? > > Steve > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 17/12/2007 > 2:13 PM From: "Graeme" To: "'steb'" , Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:05:54 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from Multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From 9laser3 at bright.net Tue Dec 18 07:31:29 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:31:29 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws References: <121820071411.6906.4767D528000585E100001AFA22007456720201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <018c01c84182$b61f07e0$ba21ffd8@hpcustomer> Both laws, helmets and belts, were designed to help protect us, but both are now outdated and need to be changed. But then when it come to the Ohio DOT, NIH applies (Not Invented here). Paul Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Graeme ; 'steb' ; Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws > This is reminiscent of the Motorcycle helmet issue. DOT and SNELL are the 2 main certifiers, Snell being a "higher" standard in most testing. It's been shown in study after study that a SNELL approved helmet works better in a multitude of situations that one would encounter in a motorcycle accident. But the US DOT continues to use an antiquated (and in my opinion very unlikely to occur) type of impact test as the standard of approved or not approved. > And so the SNELL helmets, which are by far superior in every way, (and the standard for use in Europe and Asia), do not satisfy the law (or insurance companies) in the U.S. in places where helmet use is mandatory. > > It's a little ridiculous that it is so difficult and expensive to get something approved for the road. We miss out on ALOT of great products in the US, simply because of the litigious nature of our society. > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Graeme" > > > The 5 point harness is probably MUCH better than your average 3 point but > > the big problem is that the manufacturer has, for whatever reason, not had > > them "complied" with your Transport authority. > > While that may seem an annoyance, think about your Insurance. > > If, forbid, you need to make a claim and your belts are not legal, what > > then! > > I'm with you, they are a far better restraint than anything that was factory > > fitted, BUT, here in Oz, the car can be defected for having better seatbelts > > than OEM, simply because they are not DOT approved. > > Did someone say that the Law is an ASS? > > > > "5-point harness laws" > > > > Group, > > > > I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project car. As > > I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a track car, > > right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that harness sets are > > not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them anyway thinking that > > it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a dead upstanding citizen. > > Are harnesses legal in other states for street use? > > > > Steve From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us Tue Dec 18 08:32:17 2007 From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:32:17 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws References: <01c101c8415c$b0466820$0574fea9@steb1> Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B180445229C@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us> Steve & others - I just read a similar post on the GrassrootsMotorsports forum. The Schroth seem not to be DOT approved in reality, however I have not checked this myself. It would seem that 4,5, and 6 pt harnesses aren't going to be DOT approved due to the inability to 'duck' with them on. Check out the thread on grassrootsmotorsports.com Needless to say, lets put last weeks 'elk tale' together with the 5 pt harness question and, well, you can guess what would happen. I found new 3 point vintage (DOT) lift latch style similar to original, bolted in original location, with Miata seats, with just enough space to bend over and kiss my rear goodbye during a rollover with my 'show bar' installed. Eric G Modesto, CA ________________________________ From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us at autox.team.net on behalf of steb Sent: Tue 12/18/2007 1:59 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws Group, I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project car. As I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a track car, right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that harness sets are not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them anyway thinking that it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a dead upstanding citizen. Are harnesses legal in other states for street use? Steve You are subscribed as egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From msedlack at neo.rr.com Tue Dec 18 08:46:32 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:46:32 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs References: <000a01c8413a$0f6fe880$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: <004f01c8418d$2a21ee00$6501a8c0@p428ghz> I've always had great success with Berryman's Chem-Dip for cleaning carbs - gallon can with basket to hold parts. Like Graeme said, brush off the loose stuff first. Soak the disassembled parts overnight with the lid on. If there's any remaining deposits, then use an old toothbrush to brush them with the same solution. Dunk em once more, and they come out clean as a whistle. You can cut a piece of plastic from a milk jug to act as a wedged-in separator in the basket for the can, to keep the carb components grouped together. Put the lid back on and save the dip for the next project - it'll do several carbs before it gets to grungy to reuse. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Braddock" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:51 AM Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs > I've got a couple of carbs off a 66 1600 that are gummed up and won't let fuel > flow thru from sitting with gas in them for who knows how long. > Anybody with experience cleaning these up. > I was going to dunk them in carb cleaner, but want to make sure it won't > damage anything inside. I've also heard Pine Sol works well as a carb > cleaner. > > Thanks, Larry > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as msedlack at neo.rr.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roadsters at hornesystemstx.com Tue Dec 18 09:13:13 2007 From: roadsters at hornesystemstx.com (Pat Horne) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:13:13 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs In-Reply-To: <004f01c8418d$2a21ee00$6501a8c0@p428ghz> References: <000a01c8413a$0f6fe880$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> <004f01c8418d$2a21ee00$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Message-ID: <4767F199.4090401@hornesystemstx.com> I go one step farther than Mark. I have two cans, one to get most of the heavy stuff off, then into the second can to get the rest. This helps keep the second batch cleaner longer. When it starts to get too bad to use I shift it to be the first batch and get a new can for the second. in the 70s there was a product called Hydroseal that I really liked. I just looked it up and it appears that Gunk bought out Hydroseal and now markets Hydroseal II. I'm sure it is not as effective as the original, but next time I need to replace my second batch I'll pick some up. I don't know what the original stuff was made of, but it was heavier than water. There was actually a layer of water floating on top of the solvent to keep it from evaporating. Thusly spake Mark Sedlack: > I've always had great success with Berryman's Chem-Dip for cleaning carbs - > gallon can with basket to hold parts. > > Like Graeme said, brush off the loose stuff first. > > Soak the disassembled parts overnight with the lid on. If there's any > remaining deposits, then use an old toothbrush to brush them with the same > solution. Dunk em once more, and they come out clean as a whistle. You can > cut a piece of plastic from a milk jug to act as a wedged-in separator in > the basket for the can, to keep the carb components grouped together. Put > the lid back on and save the dip for the next project - it'll do several > carbs before it gets to grungy to reuse. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Braddock" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:51 AM > Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs > > > >> I've got a couple of carbs off a 66 1600 that are gummed up and won't let >> > fuel > >> flow thru from sitting with gas in them for who knows how long. >> Anybody with experience cleaning these up. >> I was going to dunk them in carb cleaner, but want to make sure it won't >> damage anything inside. I've also heard Pine Sol works well as a carb >> cleaner. >> >> Thanks, Larry >> ________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as msedlack at neo.rr.com >> >> Datsun-roadsters mailing list >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >> > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as roadsters at hornesystemstx.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > > > -- Pat Horne, Owner, Horne Systems (512) 797-7501 Voice 5026 FM 2001 Pat at HorneSystemsTx.com Lockhart, TX 78644-4443 www.hornesystemstx.com -- We support Habitat for Humanity - a hand UP, not a hand OUT -- From leehinger at verizon.net Tue Dec 18 09:34:10 2007 From: leehinger at verizon.net (leehinger at verizon.net) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 10:34:10 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws Message-ID: <29163438.13936321197995650205.JavaMail.root@vms063.mailsrvcs.net> Eric - what brand did you use, where did you get them & approx. cost please? Thanks! Lee >From: Eric Gillis >Date: 2007/12/18 Tue AM 09:32:17 CST >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws >Steve & others - > >I just read a similar post on the GrassrootsMotorsports forum. The Schroth >seem not to be DOT approved in reality, however I have not checked this >myself. It would seem that 4,5, and 6 pt harnesses aren't going to be DOT >approved due to the inability to 'duck' with them on. Check out the thread on >grassrootsmotorsports.com > >Needless to say, lets put last weeks 'elk tale' together with the 5 pt harness >question and, well, you can guess what would happen. > >I found new 3 point vintage (DOT) lift latch style similar to original, bolted >in original location, with Miata seats, with just enough space to bend over >and kiss my rear goodbye during a rollover with my 'show bar' installed. > >Eric G >Modesto, CA > >________________________________ > >From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us at autox.team.net on >behalf of steb >Sent: Tue 12/18/2007 1:59 AM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws > > > >Group, > >I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project >car. As I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a >track car, right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that >harness sets are not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them >anyway thinking that it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a >dead upstanding citizen. Are harnesses legal in other states for street >use? > >Steve >You are subscribed as egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as leehinger at verizon.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From Keith0alan at aol.com Tue Dec 18 09:38:42 2007 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:38:42 EST Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs Message-ID: In a message dated 12/17/2007 9:52:00 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, larrybraddock at ca.rr.com writes: I've got a couple of carbs off a 66 1600 that are gummed up and won't let fuel flow thru from sitting with gas in them for who knows how long. Anybody with experience cleaning these up. I was going to dunk them in carb cleaner, but want to make sure it won't damage anything inside. I've also heard Pine Sol works well as a carb cleaner. Thanks, Larry The factory recommended gasoline. Not a good idea. Berrymans chem dip is good stuff. I have two cans. Parts go into the old one first then into the newer one. When the old one gets too nasty I pitch it, get a new can and make my former new can the old one. For a basic rebuild this followed up with some carb cleaner spray works fine. I like the NAPA house brand carb cleaner. Works well and less expensive that the name brands. After cleaning some Silicone spray will help get the linkages moving. Don't use WD-40 or such things as they will gum things up in a hurry. To loosen them up on the car carb cleaner and silicone spray is the answer. For the full treatment I disassemble the carbs, pressure wash the bits, glass bead blast the bodies and outside of the domes. The pistons and inside of the domes are cleaned with Berrymans or carb cleaner spray. Do not clean the pistons or inside of the domes with anything abrasive. They are about a .002" fit and it doesn't take much sanding to prevent it from sealing. Then your piston will not rise. After all that rambling, remove the domes, pistons and float bowl covers and dip them in Berrymans. Be very careful with the dome and float cover screws. They are pre-ISO metric and are impossible to find as they have not been made for decades. If they don't want to come loose with a screw driver grab them with a small pair of vice grips. keith williams **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) From racery at comcast.net Tue Dec 18 09:45:41 2007 From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:45:41 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Harnesses, not helmets... Message-ID: <121820071645.2942.4767F935000A861C00000B7E2200735834979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> Amusingly, in many states, it's illegal to wear a helmet while driving a car, too, even though NO ONE can argue it's less safe. About harnesses, though- if you're modifying a car, even a very safe part can kill you if it's not done right. I'd never put a harness into a car without a stout, well- mounted roll bar. I have this fear of getting squished... And while it's not an issue in a Roadster, if you put a 5- point harness into a modern car with a smart airbag system, you probably aren't making it much safer. The automobile manufacturers do an insane amount of testing on sleds for this stuff, and a modern car uses a lot of neat tricks to slow you down safely. A harness may just stop you, and as they say, it's not the drop, it's the sudden stop at the end that's the problem... So, the laws aren't entirely stupid- they're just stupid in our cases! Toby From tom at datsun2000.com Tue Dec 18 12:13:20 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:13:20 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Harnesses, not helmets... In-Reply-To: <121820071645.2942.4767F935000A861C00000B7E2200735834979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> Message-ID: I told my chiropractor I was planning to install a 4 point system with the shoulder belts mounting on a horizontal bar that is part of the roll bar. He said he wished every car could be equipped in that manner. He would have a lot less work. I understand why he said that. In 1969 a lady hit my 68 2L when I was moving at near 50 MPH. She caused me to veer to the right and hit a high curb head-on. The car just stopped when it hit the curb. Instantly. I had the factory belts on at the time and they held against what was probably a 30-40 MPH impact. My glasses smashed against the windshield when they left my face on impact. I put the top back and stepped over the door and out of the car once I realized I was still alive. As a result of hitting the single shoulder harness that hard my chest cartilage was broken, causing me considerable pain for about a month afterwards. After all these years it is possible to irritate my chest and cause lingering pain for up to a year afterwards. If I were wearing a pair of shoulder belts it is likely I would have left the car without any injury at all. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.datsun2000.com (where there is a picture of the wrecked 68) http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of racery at comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:46 AM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] Harnesses, not helmets... Amusingly, in many states, it's illegal to wear a helmet while driving a car, too, even though NO ONE can argue it's less safe. About harnesses, though- if you're modifying a car, even a very safe part can kill you if it's not done right. I'd never put a harness into a car without a stout, well- mounted roll bar. I have this fear of getting squished... And while it's not an issue in a Roadster, if you put a 5- point harness into a modern car with a smart airbag system, you probably aren't making it much safer. The automobile manufacturers do an insane amount of testing on sleds for this stuff, and a modern car uses a lot of neat tricks to slow you down safely. A harness may just stop you, and as they say, it's not the drop, it's the sudden stop at the end that's the problem... So, the laws aren't entirely stupid- they're just stupid in our cases! Toby From egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us Tue Dec 18 12:40:35 2007 From: egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us (Eric Gillis) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:40:35 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws References: <29163438.13936321197995650205.JavaMail.root@vms063.mailsrvcs.net> Message-ID: <65AA4A74232FF24E9BEC8D1163859B180445229E@cusdmx01.cusd.ceres.k12.ca.us> Lee and others- I used Wesco performance, price is right, and the quality is very nice. Much nicer than the old stockers and bright black webbing as well. Good instructions, tips on installation. I got the tip from Jeff Torres. http://wescoperformance.stores.yahoo.net/1126s.html Remember for 4 pts and more, if you dont have a good roll bar, the second object in the way of a rollover after the top/frame is your head. Enjoy the ride, Eric G Modesto, CA ________________________________ From: leehinger at verizon.net [mailto:leehinger at verizon.net] Sent: Tue 12/18/2007 8:34 AM To: Eric Gillis; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: Re: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws Eric - what brand did you use, where did you get them & approx. cost please? Thanks! Lee >From: Eric Gillis >Date: 2007/12/18 Tue AM 09:32:17 CST >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws >Steve & others - > >I just read a similar post on the GrassrootsMotorsports forum. The Schroth >seem not to be DOT approved in reality, however I have not checked this >myself. It would seem that 4,5, and 6 pt harnesses aren't going to be DOT >approved due to the inability to 'duck' with them on. Check out the thread on >grassrootsmotorsports.com > >Needless to say, lets put last weeks 'elk tale' together with the 5 pt harness >question and, well, you can guess what would happen. > >I found new 3 point vintage (DOT) lift latch style similar to original, bolted >in original location, with Miata seats, with just enough space to bend over >and kiss my rear goodbye during a rollover with my 'show bar' installed. > >Eric G >Modesto, CA > >________________________________ > >From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+egillis=ceres.k12.ca.us at autox.team.net on >behalf of steb >Sent: Tue 12/18/2007 1:59 AM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws > > > >Group, > >I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project >car. As I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a >track car, right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that >harness sets are not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them >anyway thinking that it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a >dead upstanding citizen. Are harnesses legal in other states for street >use? > >Steve >You are subscribed as egillis at ceres.k12.ca.us > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as leehinger at verizon.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Tue Dec 18 12:45:32 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:45:32 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws In-Reply-To: <01c101c8415c$b0466820$0574fea9@steb1> Message-ID: <20071218144532.9A1Y9.395932.root@fepweb07> If you want to be in conpliance with any and all insurance regs, as well as any laws, why not put a set of stock seat belts in the car in addition to a custom five or four point harness or what ever you may be planning to use. That way, if you get in a wreck, Lord forbid, you can then always be able to say, that you were indeed using the stock seat belts. ;-) And your insurance can't say a thing about the "incorrect" restraints. -- Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- steb wrote: ============= Group, I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project car. As I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a track car, right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that harness sets are not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them anyway thinking that it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a dead upstanding citizen. Are harnesses legal in other states for street use? Steve ________________________________________ From andycost at embarqmail.com Tue Dec 18 12:56:53 2007 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:56:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Harnesses and helmets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <16072013.2061471198007813828.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> The DOT and Snell ratings are primarily different because of the certification requirements. DOT is self certified by the manufacturer. Snell is a 3rd party independant certification. Therefore, DOT certification is not as respected as Snell. There is lots of debate over which test method is more safe. Snell requires two impacts on the same spot where DOT only requires one. That requires the Snell EPS padding to be stiffer or to be twice as thick. Stiffer padding equals more impact to your brain. Regardless of all the arguement I would remind everyone that the helmet is only designed for a drop from 6 feet onto the ground. It is not designed to protect in a collision between the occupant and items inside the car or between the motorcycle rider and the Buick that he just rear ended at 30 mph. Will it help in those situations? Possibly. FIA also has a helmet rating system which is highly respected. Since it is European you don't see it much here. You do see FIA rating on harnesses here. I would suggest that you will not be able to successfully duck in a rollover. Also, without a good roll bar that attaches to the frame and extends at least 2" above your head you will probably be toast in any roll over situation regardless of what kind of belt you are wearing. It was my understanding that seat belts were not mandatory until the late 70's. I beleive that you may go without seatbelts in any car before they were mandatory. You should be able to install anything you want in those cars. I like the 5 point harness in my race car because it holds me tight while cornering. It takes less effort to control the car if I am not trying to hold myself in place with the steering wheel and bracing my feet on the floorboard. I would recommend the 5 point harness for street driving. The chance of having an accident where they would cause more harm than good is rare. Also note that regular seatbelts are only designed for the 90th % male. I believe that is 190 pounds and around 5'10". Is anyone on this list bigger than that? Andy From jsk977 at optonline.net Tue Dec 18 14:07:54 2007 From: jsk977 at optonline.net (Jerry Krakauer) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:07:54 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Harnesses and helmets References: <16072013.2061471198007813828.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <003101c841ba$0ea22910$6402a8c0@HP1450> The first federal lap belt standard in the US was in 1965 although they had already been required by several states. In fact most states had been requiring the provision of front anchors since the early 60s. While the roadster had a shoulder belt starting in 67, and of course Volvo had a 3 point starting in 63, they were not made mandatory until 1973. Jerry Krakauer ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "datsun-roadsters" Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 2:56 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Harnesses and helmets > The DOT and Snell ratings are primarily different because of the > certification requirements. DOT is self certified by the manufacturer. > Snell is a 3rd party independant certification. Therefore, DOT > certification is not as respected as Snell. There is lots of debate over > which test method is more safe. Snell requires two impacts on the same > spot where DOT only requires one. That requires the Snell EPS padding to > be stiffer or to be twice as thick. Stiffer padding equals more impact to > your brain. Regardless of all the arguement I would remind everyone that > the helmet is only designed for a drop from 6 feet onto the ground. It is > not designed to protect in a collision between the occupant and items > inside the car or between the motorcycle rider and the Buick that he just > rear ended at 30 mph. Will it help in those situations? Possibly. > > FIA also has a helmet rating system which is highly respected. Since it > is European you don't see it much here. You do see FIA rating on > harnesses here. > > I would suggest that you will not be able to successfully duck in a > rollover. Also, without a good roll bar that attaches to the frame and > extends at least 2" above your head you will probably be toast in any roll > over situation regardless of what kind of belt you are wearing. > > It was my understanding that seat belts were not mandatory until the late > 70's. I beleive that you may go without seatbelts in any car before they > were mandatory. You should be able to install anything you want in those > cars. > > I like the 5 point harness in my race car because it holds me tight while > cornering. It takes less effort to control the car if I am not trying to > hold myself in place with the steering wheel and bracing my feet on the > floorboard. I would recommend the 5 point harness for street driving. > The chance of having an accident where they would cause more harm than > good is rare. Also note that regular seatbelts are only designed for the > 90th % male. I believe that is 190 pounds and around 5'10". Is anyone on > this list bigger than that? > > Andy From gsm at gregorysmorrison.com Tue Dec 18 14:50:04 2007 From: gsm at gregorysmorrison.com (Gregory S. Morrison) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:50:04 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Eject button Message-ID: All this talk of 5 pint harnesses makes me long for the good ol' days when the theory was that the driver would be more likely to survive if he was thrown clear of the car. From what I gather, they finally figured out that human bodies don't do too well hitting the wall at 150 mph. So now we strap in tight and burn to death. As I always assured my elderly mother as my wife and I embarked on our Harley rides, "I always obey the helmet laws of the state I am in." You're welcome to spin that any way you want and it would probably be true. Cheers, Greg SRL31100494 Roadstering since '75 From hallosb at juno.com Tue Dec 18 19:56:53 2007 From: hallosb at juno.com (hallosb at juno.com) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:56:53 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Was cleaning carbs / Now pre-ISO threads Message-ID: <20071218.195654.2428.0.hallosb@juno.com> Pre-ISO metric screws?? Never heard of such a thing. And I thought the clutch head screws on my '56 Chevy were unusual. This might explain those impossible to find replacement screws. When I disassembled my heater valve, I lost a screw I couldn't replace. Same thing happened with the original alternator. I have a thread gauge and every once in a while I find an unusual thread I can't match with any standard sizes either metric or SAE. Most everything on my '66 is SAE but, it seems like some of the parts do use metric threads. Do our cars have a mixture of both SAE and metric? Dan McHatton '66 1600 On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:38:42 EST Keith0alan at aol.com writes: Be very careful with the dome and float cover screws. They are pre-ISO metric and are impossible to find as they have not been made for decades. keith williams From graemes at internode.on.net Tue Dec 18 21:03:29 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:33:29 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] Was cleaning carbs / Now pre-ISO threads In-Reply-To: <20071218.195654.2428.0.hallosb@juno.com> References: <20071218.195654.2428.0.hallosb@juno.com> Message-ID: <000601c841f4$1eaeb190$426fa8c0@desktop> Don't even think about starting this topic again!! I have caused my local Fastener supplier grevious harm by asking for 6 of these and 17 of those, only to be told, "What idiot used 32TPI on a bolt that size for!" My reply was the Japanese under strong American influence post WWII. He just smiles at me and hands the samples back and quietly says, "WHO'S NEXT" "Pre-ISO metric screws?? Never heard of such a thing. And I thought the clutch head screws on my '56 Chevy were unusual. This might explain those impossible to find replacement screws. When I disassembled my heater valve, I lost a screw I couldn't replace. Same thing happened with the original alternator. I have a thread gauge and every once in a while I find an unusual thread I can't match with any standard sizes either metric or SAE. Most everything on my '66 is SAE but, it seems like some of the parts do use metric threads. Do our cars have a mixture of both SAE and metric? Dan McHatton '66 1600 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1188 - Release Date: 17/12/2007 2:13 PM From mtyler at hctc.net Tue Dec 18 21:38:42 2007 From: mtyler at hctc.net (Marc&Heidi) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:38:42 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you don't mind the non-traditional look, these make a world of difference: http://www.blackdragonauto.com/features/z/ZEL1.htm I have these on my 320 Truck which I drive out here in the Texas boonies. The White-tail and Axis deer are pretty small compared to an elk, but they can total a car. I'm happy for the extra visibility. You'll need to upgrade the wiring to the lights, but it can all be done under the hood. Here's the 320 with the lights, not too radical: http://www.flickr.com/photos/13359925 at N02/1366847933/in/ set-72157601999300999/ On Dec 15, 2007, at 3:25 PM, peter harrison wrote: > Hi list, > > One thing became apparent to me on this trip that the headlights > are not up to > night time driving on totally unlit roads. > > Any suggestions as to what to replace them with? I might later on > add driving > lights, but for now I want to replace the headlights. > > Thx > > Peter > 1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mtyler at hctc.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mtyler at hctc.net Tue Dec 18 21:42:07 2007 From: mtyler at hctc.net (Marc&Heidi) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:42:07 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] More Roadster Press In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9CEE0829-196E-4A5B-AC9C-61B39724C236@hctc.net> I really enjoy the Drivable Dream feature. The point is that the cars may not be perfect, but they are driven and enjoyed. I look forward to the article. -Marc On Dec 15, 2007, at 5:55 PM, RHCsports at aol.com wrote: > Hello All, > > At the Japanese Classic Car Show this past October in Long Beach, > I was > approached by a Hemmings Sports and Exotics writer to have my '68 > 1600 featured > as one of their Drivable Dreams. > > Although not a perfect car, it is mostly original and I purchased > it from > the original owner. > > The photo shoot was done in November and it looks like it will go > to press > for the March issue. I just received a preview CD of the photos and > it looks > sweet. I can't really offer a preview of the pics as they are owned by > Hemmings. But keep checking my website for photos of my car ;). > > Keep them running! > > Ron > > _www.higenki.com/roadster_ (http://www.higenki.com/roadster) > > _www.higenki.com/socalroc_ (http://www.higenki.com/socalroc) > So Cal Roadster Owners Club > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mtyler at hctc.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From daveandlindab at comcast.net Tue Dec 18 21:59:20 2007 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:59:20 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-point harness laws In-Reply-To: <01c101c8415c$b0466820$0574fea9@steb1> Message-ID: <010c01c841fb$ed6bc980$6600a8c0@chrissy> Someone please correct me if I am wrong... As far as I know, racing belts are not DOT approved. Also, unless you have a proper anchor at shoulder level behind the seats, I've been told the shoulder harness can cause injury from pulling down on your shoulders in a frontal impact. I took out the Non DOT approved 4 point in my car, I had no harness bar, and put in non DOT, but FAA approved airline seatbelts. Figured 5 year old non DOT is better than dry rotted but legal stockers. The aircraft belts clip/snap onto an eyebolt, so you could have them for the street, and unclip them and put in the harness if you go on the track or show. Now we enter the grey area...If the car did not come with belts, do they have to be DOT if you add them? In New Jersey, if the car was made before July 1 1967, seatbelts are not required, but if you have them you do need to wear them. I guess it would depend on local inspection requirements. I'm not subject to inspection on the Datsun. Most cops would be happy if you are wearing them, not caring if they have a DOT, FAA or SEMA tag. Personal opinion, driving around on the street in a 5 point harness just screams "Arrest Me!!" -----Original Message----- From: steb [mailto:stebharvey at ameritech.net] Group, I purchased two sets of 5-point harnesses for my restoration project car. As I was leaving the store the guy says, "you are using these on a track car, right?". I said no, there for a street car. Turns out that harness sets are not legal for street use in Wisconsin. I installed them anyway thinking that it's better to be a breathing law breaker then a dead upstanding citizen. Are harnesses legal in other states for street use? Steve From aultgc at jorsm.com Tue Dec 18 22:03:24 2007 From: aultgc at jorsm.com (Gary and Cindy Ault) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:03:24 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Was cleaning carbs / Now pre-ISO threads References: <20071218.195654.2428.0.hallosb@juno.com> Message-ID: <006d01c841fc$7cb72300$0ca0aa42@gaxp1> Folks, Remember that Hitachi copied SU carbs (under license, I presume). They probably used Whitworth Standard (British) threads. Has anyone ever tried to use genuine SU dome screws from Moss Motors or the like? Somewhere in the back of my aging mind I seem to recall being told that they're a 27 pitch thread, as opposed to 28 pitch, which would be SAE. Close, but no cigar. My guess is theBritish parts will work, but I really don't know. Gary Ault ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:56 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Was cleaning carbs / Now pre-ISO threads > Pre-ISO metric screws?? Never heard of such a thing. And I thought the > clutch head screws on my '56 Chevy were unusual. > > This might explain those impossible to find replacement screws. When I > disassembled my heater valve, I lost a screw I couldn't replace. Same > thing happened with the original alternator. I have a thread gauge and > every once in a while I find an unusual thread I can't match with any > standard sizes either metric or SAE. > > Most everything on my '66 is SAE but, it seems like some of the parts do > use metric threads. Do our cars have a mixture of both SAE and metric? > > Dan McHatton > '66 1600 > > > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:38:42 EST Keith0alan at aol.com writes: > > Be very careful with the dome and float cover screws. They are pre-ISO > metric and are impossible to find as they have not been made > for decades. > > keith williams > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as aultgc at jorsm.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Tue Dec 18 23:16:56 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:16:56 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Headlights In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000d01c84206$c23fb090$6501a8c0@xp> >From "Hella Headlight Upgrade" posted by Darryl earlier this year: For those not on 311.org I picked up the Hella 70472 lights. Non-DOT approved. Notes on that here: http://www.rallylights.com/hella/7in.asp Difference between DOT approved and Non-DOT approved here: http://www.rallylights.com/useful_info/Vision_Plus.htm Wiring as on sights below: GM truck Headlight harness write-up: http://www.73-87.com/7387garage/exterior/headlight_relay.htm Schematic similar to roadster: http://www.73-87.com/7387garage/exterior/HL_relay/HeadLampRelay73-87Single.j pg Another diagram: http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/headlight-simple.htm -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marc&Heidi Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:39 PM To: peter harrison Cc: datsun Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Headlights If you don't mind the non-traditional look, these make a world of difference: http://www.blackdragonauto.com/features/z/ZEL1.htm I have these on my 320 Truck which I drive out here in the Texas boonies. The White-tail and Axis deer are pretty small compared to an elk, but they can total a car. I'm happy for the extra visibility. You'll need to upgrade the wiring to the lights, but it can all be done under the hood. Here's the 320 with the lights, not too radical: http://www.flickr.com/photos/13359925 at N02/1366847933/in/set-7215760199930099 9/ On Dec 15, 2007, at 3:25 PM, peter harrison wrote: > Hi list, > > One thing became apparent to me on this trip that the headlights > are not up to > night time driving on totally unlit roads. > > Any suggestions as to what to replace them with? I might later on > add driving > lights, but for now I want to replace the headlights. > > Thx > > Peter > 1970 SPL Eliza (TOAD SAN) ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mtyler at hctc.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From dhyson at charter.net Wed Dec 19 00:53:46 2007 From: dhyson at charter.net (Durf & Sue Hyson) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 02:53:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re: Was cleaning carbs / Now pre-ISO threads] Message-ID: <4768CE0A.9090507@charter.net> I've done it again ! Sent the reply to one poor soul ! At the risk of offending our old masters.... it was the British car industry that had the greatest influence on post WW 2 Japanese car companies. One of the first and most important execs to be involved in rebuilding a Japanese car company was actually from Hillman. They worked with Isuzu in the late 40's or very early 50's. Datsun and Austin were next if I remember correctly. Fuji/Subaru also went down that path but I don't remember with whom. It is not a coincidence that we have Sumitomo DUNLOP tires , Hitachi carbs that are patterned after SU's and early Japanese brake calipers licensed from Girling complete with the "G" and fist. it is also why most early Japanese stuff was built with SAE hardware. Once the Japanese started designing their own parts you begin to see the shift towards metric.I can remember changing a master cylinder on a Datsun once (I don't remember if it was a Z or a roadster) and being surprised that the bore was a SAE dimension and yet the threads on the pushrod were 8 MM . As far as the Whitworth thing goes I have never seen any but anything is possible. Whitworth stuff can usually be identified by the fact it usually takes odd size wrenches. Also , if you look closely at the root or tips of the thread they are round not pointy. That is the primary distinction of Whitworth thread . Common SAE and metric stuff is wedge form thread so the roots are vee shaped and the tips are a point. In Whitworth the thread profile is like a sine wave. The root is a curved fillet and the tips are rounded off. Thanks, Durf Graeme wrote: > "What idiot used 32TPI on a bolt that size for!" > My reply was the Japanese under strong American influence post WWII. From graemes at internode.on.net Wed Dec 19 02:38:23 2007 From: graemes at internode.on.net (Graeme) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:08:23 +1030 Subject: [Roadsters] OT-MG threads. Message-ID: <000501c84222$e83ecc10$426fa8c0@desktop> All this trouble we have with threads reminds me of a yarn I heard from an MG afficiendo some years ago. Apparantly, in the early days, MGs were sent to a plant in France for some assembly, then shipped back to Pommyland. France was really clever and at that time, used their own version of metric, true pre-ISO stuff. Anyhoo, the boffins at Morris Garages, England, noticed that their wrenches, which were non metric, would not fit the fasteners. They sent an edict to the Froggies to desist using fasteners with weird ass threads and sizes. The French, in their quiet provincial, anti-anglo saxon way, then proceeded to use the same metric threaded fasteners with RESIZED hex heads so the Poms wrenches would fit! Good grief!! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 9:40 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18/12/2007 9:40 PM From tputland at charter.net Wed Dec 19 06:50:28 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 5:50:28 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Matt Smith Message-ID: <20071219085028.QB4PD.411807.root@fepweb01> Can you contact me off list please? thanks Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 19 07:01:09 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 06:01:09 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster sighting - San Jose, CA Message-ID: <47692425.1080303@sbcglobal.net> When: Yesterday, 17 Dec., 2007, midday Where: San Jose, CA - Hamilton Avenue near Meridian What: Faded Red 1600 w/slight LF fender damage, on front wheel tow rig, partially covered by a tarp Anyone on the List? Gary McCormick San Jose, CA '70 2000 SRL311-13291 From spud at austin.rr.com Wed Dec 19 07:29:47 2007 From: spud at austin.rr.com (spud) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 08:29:47 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re: Was cleaning carbs / Now pre-ISO threads] In-Reply-To: <4768CE0A.9090507@charter.net> Message-ID: SAE threads, are 60 degree. Whitworth threads, are 55 degree. A whitworth bolt with a 5/16 dia. will actually interchange with a 5/16 NF. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+spud=austin.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+spud=austin.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Durf & Sue Hyson Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:54 AM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] [Fwd: Re: Was cleaning carbs / Now pre-ISO threads] I've done it again ! Sent the reply to one poor soul ! At the risk of offending our old masters.... it was the British car industry that had the greatest influence on post WW 2 Japanese car companies. One of the first and most important execs to be involved in rebuilding a Japanese car company was actually from Hillman. They worked with Isuzu in the late 40's or very early 50's. Datsun and Austin were next if I remember correctly. Fuji/Subaru also went down that path but I don't remember with whom. It is not a coincidence that we have Sumitomo DUNLOP tires , Hitachi carbs that are patterned after SU's and early Japanese brake calipers licensed from Girling complete with the "G" and fist. it is also why most early Japanese stuff was built with SAE hardware. Once the Japanese started designing their own parts you begin to see the shift towards metric.I can remember changing a master cylinder on a Datsun once (I don't remember if it was a Z or a roadster) and being surprised that the bore was a SAE dimension and yet the threads on the pushrod were 8 MM . As far as the Whitworth thing goes I have never seen any but anything is possible. Whitworth stuff can usually be identified by the fact it usually takes odd size wrenches. Also , if you look closely at the root or tips of the thread they are round not pointy. That is the primary distinction of Whitworth thread . Common SAE and metric stuff is wedge form thread so the roots are vee shaped and the tips are a point. In Whitworth the thread profile is like a sine wave. The root is a curved fillet and the tips are rounded off. Thanks, Durf Graeme wrote: > "What idiot used 32TPI on a bolt that size for!" > My reply was the Japanese under strong American influence post WWII. From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 19 08:08:16 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:08:16 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Eject button In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <476933E0.1030108@sbcglobal.net> If that includes not wearing a helmet - it's the state of Delusion. Gary McCormick San Jose, CA - Still alive ONLY because of motorcycle helmets - Gregory S. Morrison wrote: > > >As I always assured my elderly mother as my wife and I embarked on our >Harley rides, "I always obey the helmet laws of the state I am in." You're >welcome to spin that any way you want and it would probably be true. > >Cheers, >Greg >SRL31100494 >Roadstering since '75 From d-solomon at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 11:10:25 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:10:25 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Eject button Message-ID: <121920071810.8062.47695E90000EAF8900001F7E22007503300201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> I was thinking "denial". But Delusion works. I am all for the right to choose. But I am opposed to stupidity. There are ZERO instances where a person can consider himself safer through NOT using a helmet. And I can think of no valid reason why a person could consider it more COMFORTABLE to be without a helmet, than to be wearing a proper fitting lid. I understand the appeal of looking cool. But does it outweigh the fiscal burden that is placed on society every year by those who crash without a helmet on? You may say "well I have insurance for that". Who pays for those medical bills then? I do, through my own premiums. Not to mention the ammunition that another motorcycle death gives to those who would take away our freedom to chose; to choose helmets, or motorcycles for that matter. i'll climb off the soapbox now. as you can tell, I feel very passionate about helmet use. Dan -------------- Original message -------------- From: Gary McCormick > If that includes not wearing a helmet - it's the state of Delusion. > > Gary McCormick > San Jose, CA > - Still alive ONLY because of motorcycle helmets - > > Gregory S. Morrison wrote: > > > > > > >As I always assured my elderly mother as my wife and I embarked on our > >Harley rides, "I always obey the helmet laws of the state I am in." You're > >welcome to spin that any way you want and it would probably be true. > > > >Cheers, > >Greg > >SRL31100494 > >Roadstering since '75 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From robbieharrison at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 11:35:42 2007 From: robbieharrison at comcast.net (Robbie Harrison) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:35:42 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Subject: [Roadsters] Eject button References: <121920071810.8062.47695E90000EAF8900001F7E22007503300201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4769647D.000005.05448@ROBBIE-PC> I have to agree with the right to choose as well. And also opposed to stupidity. Helmet and seatbelt laws interfere with natural selection. But there should be provisions strictly limiting insurance payouts, say to the amount paid in by the party involved, if they are not using the protective gear available, so that the rest of the population does not have to foot the bill. Whether they are the at-fault party or not. Robbie -------Original Message------- From: d-solomon at comcast.net Date: 12/19/2007 1:11:00 PM To: Gary McCormick; Gregory S. Morrison Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Eject button I was thinking "denial". But Delusion works. I am all for the right to choose. But I am opposed to stupidity. There are ZERO instances where a person can consider himself safer through NOT using a helmet. And I can think of no valid reason why a person could consider it more COMFORTABLE to be without a helmet, than to be wearing a proper fitting lid. I understand the appeal of looking cool. But does it outweigh the fiscal burden that is placed on society every year by those who crash without a helmet on? You may say "well I have insurance for that". Who pays for those medical bills then? I do, through my own premiums. Not to mention the ammunition that another motorcycle death gives to those who would take away our freedom to chose; to choose helmets, or motorcycles for that matter. i'll climb off the soapbox now. as you can tell, I feel very passionate about helmet use. Dan [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 9_tree_snow_english.gif] From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 12:11:21 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:11:21 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] G Production on SpeedTV Message-ID: I just happened to stumble through the SpeedTV coverage of the SCCA Runoffs G Production race this morning. Man, what a great race! I know people have talked about the results here on the list, and I read the (skimpy) coverage in Sports Car, but I had no idea it was that exciting! To see Bill and 6-time GP champ Kent Prather in his MGA going fender to fender, pass and re-pass, was really fun. Even though in the end, Prather's engine went off and Bill touched the wall, it was a tremendous duel. Plus there were some very nice 510's in the race as well. Unfortunately it looks like that was the only time SpeedTV is showing it. Dang. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA www.gordon-glasgow.org [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From spud at austin.rr.com Wed Dec 19 13:00:37 2007 From: spud at austin.rr.com (spud) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:00:37 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS Message-ID: Should run again at 2:00 to 4:00 am Thur. 20,Dec. I'm setting my clock, too bad my recorder is not working. From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Wed Dec 19 13:16:36 2007 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:16:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS Message-ID: <274002.13299.qm@web81414.mail.mud.yahoo.com> TiVo! ----- Original Message ---- From: spud To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:00:37 PM Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS Should run again at 2:00 to 4:00 am Thur. 20,Dec. I'm setting my clock, too bad my recorder is not working. You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From mtyler at hctc.net Wed Dec 19 14:38:37 2007 From: mtyler at hctc.net (Marc&Heidi) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:38:37 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs In-Reply-To: <000a01c8413a$0f6fe880$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> References: <000a01c8413a$0f6fe880$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: I had a set of carbs that had set long enough that there was a gooey varnish deposit partially blocking the little fuel line between the float bowl and carb body. Drove me nuts trying to track down the intermittent fuel starvation. You can take them off and run a solvent soaked q-tip through. If they crack during this operation, they needed replacement anyway :^) -Marc On Dec 17, 2007, at 11:51 PM, Larry Braddock wrote: > I've got a couple of carbs off a 66 1600 that are gummed up and > won't let fuel > flow thru from sitting with gas in them for who knows how long. > Anybody with experience cleaning these up. > I was going to dunk them in carb cleaner, but want to make sure it > won't > damage anything inside. I've also heard Pine Sol works well as a carb > cleaner. > > Thanks, Larry > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mtyler at hctc.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From d-solomon at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 15:03:04 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:03:04 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: Re: Eject button Message-ID: <121920072203.25941.47699518000BA1970000655522073000330201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> yes, I can certainly relate to that feeling of carefree freedom. And of course I'd be lieing if I were to tell you that every time I've thrown a leg over a bike I've had a lid on. But typically, when I HAVE taken the occassional cruise around the block without a helmet, by the time I hit 40mph or so, I wish I had one on. The wind noise can be horrible, and the wind in the eyes sucks But the real reminder for me is the "wall of Glory" in my garage, with my old helmets. Every one on the wall represents either death or disfigurement, had I not been wearing it. And before the one person on the list who got so angry with me over this issue that he felt he needed to attack me in a private email gets inflamed again and says I crash too much: 90% of those incidents have been on the race track. You race bikes, you crash bikes. it is that simple. I have had the occassional tip over on the road, but my road incidents over the years have had more to do with debris and wildlife!! Dan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Gregory S. Morrison" Dan- For me it has to do with the wind in the hair feeling and a dash of self-justification in the way of, If I hit the deck hard, then just take me now Lord cause I cant ride if Im in a wheelchair. Of course, none of that makes any sense when compared to emergency room statistics and insurance rates. I should probably get with the program and play it a bit more safe considering Ive had pretty good luck up to this point, why chance it? Thanks for the wake up call. -Greg On 12/19/07 10:10 AM, "d-solomon at comcast.net" wrote: And I can think of no valid reason why a person could consider it more COMFORTABLE to be without a helmet, than to be wearing a proper fitting lid. From geegc at aol.com Wed Dec 19 15:04:03 2007 From: geegc at aol.com (geegc at aol.com) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:04:03 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs In-Reply-To: References: <000a01c8413a$0f6fe880$36b4ab4c@owner4d7e0adce> Message-ID: <8CA10A233CF9BDE-510-F7@webmailbeta-m03.sysops.aol.com> The black rubber line should be flexible and clear and if it is not it should be replaced.? I think regular auto parts rubber tubing will work although the vendors have a more flexible tube for that application. Gary C -----Original Message----- From: Marc&Heidi To: Larry Braddock Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 1:38 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs I had a set of carbs that had set long enough that there was a gooey varnish deposit partially blocking the little fuel line between the float bowl and carb body. Drove me nuts trying to track down the intermittent fuel starvation. You can take them off and run a solvent soaked q-tip through. If they crack during this operation, they needed replacement anyway :^) ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com From tom at datsun2000.com Wed Dec 19 16:10:05 2007 From: tom at datsun2000.com (Tom @ Datsun2000) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:10:05 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs In-Reply-To: <8CA10A233CF9BDE-510-F7@webmailbeta-m03.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: I have used chain saw fuel line for the flex hose at the bottom of the SU nozzle. It is available from any small engine service or mower shop. It was yellow and worked perfectly. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.dataun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+tom=datsun2000.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of geegc at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:04 PM To: mtyler at hctc.net; larrybraddock at ca.rr.com Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs The black rubber line should be flexible and clear and if it is not it should be replaced.? I think regular auto parts rubber tubing will work although the vendors have a more flexible tube for that application. Gary C -----Original Message----- From: Marc&Heidi To: Larry Braddock Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 1:38 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs I had a set of carbs that had set long enough that there was a gooey varnish deposit partially blocking the little fuel line between the float bowl and carb body. Drove me nuts trying to track down the intermittent fuel starvation. You can take them off and run a solvent soaked q-tip through. If they crack during this operation, they needed replacement anyway :^) ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com You are subscribed as tom at datsun2000.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 16:56:34 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:56:34 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Harnesses, not helmets... In-Reply-To: <121820071645.2942.4767F935000A861C00000B7E2200735834979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> Message-ID: The only reason I can think of to not allow helmet use on the street is that it impedes your hearing and you might not hear emergency vehicles as easily. That's also why it is illegal in WA to wear headphones in a car, too. Of course some of these stereo systems do a much "better" job of impeding hearing than any helmet. Those guys are all gonna be deaf by the time they're thirty anyway. Kinda reminds me of the rock band in the "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" series. I think they were called "Demolition Zone." Best listening location was in a hardenend concrete bunker 30 miles from the stage. The band played from a ship in orbit around the planet. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of racery at comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:46 AM To: roadster list Subject: [Roadsters] Harnesses, not helmets... Amusingly, in many states, it's illegal to wear a helmet while driving a car, too, even though NO ONE can argue it's less safe. About harnesses, though- if you're modifying a car, even a very safe part can kill you if it's not done right. I'd never put a harness into a car without a stout, well- mounted roll bar. I have this fear of getting squished... And while it's not an issue in a Roadster, if you put a 5- point harness into a modern car with a smart airbag system, you probably aren't making it much safer. The automobile manufacturers do an insane amount of testing on sleds for this stuff, and a modern car uses a lot of neat tricks to slow you down safely. A harness may just stop you, and as they say, it's not the drop, it's the sudden stop at the end that's the problem... So, the laws aren't entirely stupid- they're just stupid in our cases! Toby Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Wed Dec 19 16:58:55 2007 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:58:55 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00b801c8429b$1e34f3d0$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR> What time zone? I want to set the DVR! Should run again at 2:00 to 4:00 am Thur. 20,Dec. I'm setting my clock, too bad my recorder is not working. ________________________________________ From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 17:06:43 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:06:43 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Eject button In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's easier to get out after a wreck if you are still belted into the seat and conscious than if you are jammed up under the dash and unconscious. Besides, how many car crashes have you seen lately that resulted in a fire? That's pretty rare any more. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA Who is eternally grateful that his father had the good sense to install seat belts in his 1954 Dodge. Saved my life when I totalled the car in 1965. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Gregory S. Morrison Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:50 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] Eject button All this talk of 5 pint harnesses makes me long for the good ol' days when the theory was that the driver would be more likely to survive if he was thrown clear of the car. From what I gather, they finally figured out that human bodies don't do too well hitting the wall at 150 mph. So now we strap in tight and burn to death. As I always assured my elderly mother as my wife and I embarked on our Harley rides, "I always obey the helmet laws of the state I am in." You're welcome to spin that any way you want and it would probably be true. Cheers, Greg SRL31100494 Roadstering since '75 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 17:12:10 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:12:10 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS Message-ID: <122020070012.28469.4769B35A00073BC500006F352206998499CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Now that we know the channel and date, just go to TVGuide.com and set the location for wherever you are to verify the show time. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Joe Russo" > What time zone? I want to set the DVR! > > Should run again at 2:00 to 4:00 am Thur. 20,Dec. I'm setting my > clock, too bad my recorder is not working. > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Wed Dec 19 17:12:36 2007 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:12:36 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS In-Reply-To: <122020070012.28469.4769B35A00073BC500006F352206998499CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00bb01c8429d$072b8350$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR> Yeah - I though of that AFTER I hit the reply button DOH! Sorry, I'm old -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ppeters914 at comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:12 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS Now that we know the channel and date, just go to TVGuide.com and set the location for wherever you are to verify the show time. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Joe Russo" > What time zone? I want to set the DVR! > > Should run again at 2:00 to 4:00 am Thur. 20,Dec. I'm setting my > clock, too bad my recorder is not working. > ________________________________________ > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 17:16:26 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:16:26 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS In-Reply-To: <00b801c8429b$1e34f3d0$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR> Message-ID: I don't see it listed. http://www.speedtv.com/programs/142/ Gordon -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Joe Russo Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:59 PM To: 'spud' Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS What time zone? I want to set the DVR! Should run again at 2:00 to 4:00 am Thur. 20,Dec. I'm setting my clock, too bad my recorder is not working. ________________________________________ Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From chalsted at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 18:08:40 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:08:40 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Eject button References: Message-ID: <004301c842a4$dd33fa20$850b8318@craigscomputer> my mom, dad, and sister would have all likely died in car crashes in the mid sixties if it weren't for wearing seatbelts...common denominator- my mom was driving... dad's door ripped off the car as it slid along the ground on it's side and he would have been pulled out and crushed without a seatbelt. fractured 2 vertebra and had a bunch of lacerations but lived...mother and sister were doing 70 in Michigan back when that was the speed limit in our '66 Fury wagon, were rear-ended by a drunk doing an estimated 130 plus- shot them forward knocking out over 150 ft of guardrail and then they rolled until they came to the bottom of the embankment- another 100 ft plus. both had a black eye (we kidded them about doing a Tarryton cigarette commercial) whiplash and swelling in their ankles, but otherwise ok. passenger in the car the drunk was driving (it was her car, he'd met her that night) went thru the windshield and skidded along the road on her face....obviously not wearing a seatbelt...guy who was drunk but wearing his seatbelt was released on his own recognizance the next morning and disappeared, was never located. I'm a firm believer in seatbelts...and I always wear a helmet when riding a motorcycle or quad, always. wrecked a Goldwing once when someone stepped out in front of me and it was hit them or run into a parked car...got a serious scrape down the back of the helmet and on off the shoulder of my leather jacket from jumping over the car and doing a tuck and roll, but I walked away... had to bail from a quad a couple years ago when I caught a root in a trail cut into the side of a hill and it sent me airborne in a barrel roll- landed about 20' out and 10' down from where I left the trail, broke my collarbone into 4 pieces but no head trauma because I had a helmet on. quad came to rest on top of me after landing and rolling, but if I hadn't bailed it would have hit the ground upside down with me squished underneath. doubt I would have survived that even with the helmet. fwiw.... Craig From chalsted at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 18:17:10 2007 From: chalsted at comcast.net (chalsted) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:17:10 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS References: Message-ID: <005e01c842a6$0c4fcd60$850b8318@craigscomputer> Channel Date & Time Episode Get More SPEED Thu, Dec 20 3:00 AM SCCA Runoffs Record with TiVo VCR+: 300812 SPEED Thu, Dec 20 4:00 AM SCCA Runoffs Record with TiVo VCR+: 704440 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Glasgow" To: "Joe Russo" ; "'spud'" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS >I don't see it listed. > > http://www.speedtv.com/programs/142/ > > Gordon > > -----Original Message----- > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Joe Russo > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:59 PM > To: 'spud' > Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS > > > What time zone? I want to set the DVR! > > Should run again at 2:00 to 4:00 am Thur. 20,Dec. I'm setting my > clock, too bad my recorder is not working. > ________________________________________ > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as chalsted at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 18:34:01 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:34:01 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS In-Reply-To: <005e01c842a6$0c4fcd60$850b8318@craigscomputer> Message-ID: Aha! That's what caught me out. SpeedTV starts their daily schedule at 4:00 am and I'm on the west coast. It's on again at midnight tonight here in "wet"-ern Washington. Gordon -----Original Message----- From: chalsted [mailto:chalsted at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:17 PM To: Gordon Glasgow Cc: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS Channel Date & Time Episode Get More SPEED Thu, Dec 20 3:00 AM SCCA Runoffs Record with TiVo VCR+: 300812 SPEED Thu, Dec 20 4:00 AM SCCA Runoffs Record with TiVo VCR+: 704440 From spud at austin.rr.com Wed Dec 19 18:44:55 2007 From: spud at austin.rr.com (spud) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:44:55 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Forgot to add, that is CENTRAL TIME. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+spud=austin.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+spud=austin.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of spud Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:01 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS Should run again at 2:00 to 4:00 am Thur. 20,Dec. I'm setting my clock, too bad my recorder is not working. You are subscribed as spud at austin.rr.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From tputland at charter.net Wed Dec 19 19:14:17 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:14:17 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS--help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20071219211417.FW6ZA.461640.root@fepweb09> Any chance of someone recording this for me--on a vhs tape? Here is my situation: Got water in the basement this past record wet fall season. Had to pull dry wall, studs, carpet, etc out of the FINISHED part of the basement in order to not get mold. In the process I had to pull all four computers and the second TV, including the VHS recorder (my kids were not happy) in order to start the process of properly sealing the basement and refinishing it as well. So, because of all this, I am not able to record this show or watch it because it is on in the middle of my night. I don't have DVR yet as I have to wait for the snow to go away before I can get the dish I want to get. Some one help this fool please! Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning ---- spud wrote: ============= Forgot to add, that is CENTRAL TIME. -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+spud=austin.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+spud=austin.rr.com at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of spud Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:01 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA RUNOFFS Should run again at 2:00 to 4:00 am Thur. 20,Dec. I'm setting my clock, too bad my recorder is not working. You are subscribed as spud at austin.rr.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as tputland at charter.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From drlsmith at dccnet.com Wed Dec 19 22:24:33 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:24:33 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Another new Spark Plug......... Message-ID: <00de01c842c8$9b813dd0$6a2fcf18@Daryl> "Pulstar" pulse plug....."featuring a unique capacitor based pulse circuit" (Is this a capacitive discharge ignition without the (MSD etc.) control box??) http://www.pulstarplug.com/ I'm all for a better spark plug.....IF IT WORKS!! This latest incarnation makes all the familiar claims and comes with a satisfaction guarantee, but no specific numbers (ie: 2, 5, 10 % increase) to use for a measure.......at least Bosch, with their +2 and +4 gave a specific increase in their claims.....just not for our cars. The magazine ad in "Popular Mechanics" also has some "ignition plume" shots that look familiar....... If it is so good, why aren't the auto OEM's using them.......?? Daryl From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Dec 19 22:42:58 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:42:58 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Another new Spark Plug......... In-Reply-To: <00de01c842c8$9b813dd0$6a2fcf18@Daryl> Message-ID: <001201c842cb$3145a020$6501a8c0@xp> Same reason they bought and hid/destroyed all the plans for 200mpg carburetors! Pete "feeling conspiratorial" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Daryl Smith Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:25 PM To: Datsun Roadster List Subject: [Roadsters] Another new Spark Plug......... "Pulstar" pulse plug....."featuring a unique capacitor based pulse circuit" (Is this a capacitive discharge ignition without the (MSD etc.) control box??) http://www.pulstarplug.com/ I'm all for a better spark plug.....IF IT WORKS!! This latest incarnation makes all the familiar claims and comes with a satisfaction guarantee, but no specific numbers (ie: 2, 5, 10 % increase) to use for a measure.......at least Bosch, with their +2 and +4 gave a specific increase in their claims.....just not for our cars. The magazine ad in "Popular Mechanics" also has some "ignition plume" shots that look familiar....... If it is so good, why aren't the auto OEM's using them.......?? From slowboy at cox.net Thu Dec 20 00:33:23 2007 From: slowboy at cox.net (SlowBoy) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:33:23 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Another new Spark Plug......... References: <00de01c842c8$9b813dd0$6a2fcf18@Daryl> Message-ID: <001c01c842da$9aa94f30$8b01a8c0@m7170n> You rich youngins learn us after use'n them there new fangled thing-a-majigs fer a piece. At $25 for one you can be thankful we are not running a 12 cyclinder. ;o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Smith" To: "Datsun Roadster List" Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Another new Spark Plug......... > "Pulstar" pulse plug....."featuring a unique capacitor based pulse > circuit" > (Is this a capacitive discharge ignition without the (MSD etc.) control > box??) > > http://www.pulstarplug.com/ > > I'm all for a better spark plug.....IF IT WORKS!! > > This latest incarnation makes all the familiar claims and comes with a > satisfaction guarantee, but no specific numbers (ie: 2, 5, 10 % increase) > to > use for a measure.......at least Bosch, with their +2 and +4 gave a > specific > increase in their claims.....just not for our cars. > > The magazine ad in "Popular Mechanics" also has some "ignition plume" > shots > that look familiar....... > > If it is so good, why aren't the auto OEM's using them.......?? > > > Daryl From Keith0alan at aol.com Thu Dec 20 09:57:28 2007 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:57:28 EST Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs Message-ID: In a message dated 12/19/2007 3:06:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, tom at datsun2000.com writes: I have used chain saw fuel line for the flex hose at the bottom of the SU nozzle. It is available from any small engine service or mower shop. It was yellow and worked perfectly. Tom 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde Portland http://www.dataun2000.com http://www.nowroc.org Hello all, The problem with chain saw fuel line is that after a few years is gets very hard and stiff. For the chokes to work properly the hose must be very flexible. I have 30+ year old original lines that are still flexible and working fine. Most anything else I've seen gets hard as a rock. If you use chain saw type tubing just plan to change it every couple of years. Ztherapy has the only aftermarket tubing that I am aware of that works properly. It is what I use on my refurbed carbs. keith williams **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) From Keith0alan at aol.com Thu Dec 20 10:05:56 2007 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:05:56 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Was cleaning carbs / Now pre-ISO threads Message-ID: In a message dated 12/18/2007 9:03:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, aultgc at jorsm.com writes: Folks, Remember that Hitachi copied SU carbs (under license, I presume). They probably used Whitworth Standard (British) threads. Has anyone ever tried to use genuine SU dome screws from Moss Motors or the like? Somewhere in the back of my aging mind I seem to recall being told that they're a 27 pitch thread, as opposed to 28 pitch, which would be SAE. Close, but no cigar. My guess is theBritish parts will work, but I really don't know. Gary Ault Nope, won't work. The early carbs (1500, most 1600, some 2000) are 5x.75 pre-ISO metric. Some 1600, most 2L and the Z carbs are 5x.8 ISO metric. If anyone has found a source for the 5x.75 screws I would love to hear about it. keith **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) From Keith0alan at aol.com Thu Dec 20 10:12:31 2007 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:12:31 EST Subject: [Roadsters] Was cleaning carbs / Now pre-ISO threads Message-ID: In a message dated 12/18/2007 6:58:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, hallosb at juno.com writes: Pre-ISO metric screws?? Never heard of such a thing. And I thought the clutch head screws on my '56 Chevy were unusual. This might explain those impossible to find replacement screws. When I disassembled my heater valve, I lost a screw I couldn't replace. Same thing happened with the original alternator. I have a thread gauge and every once in a while I find an unusual thread I can't match with any standard sizes either metric or SAE. Most everything on my '66 is SAE but, it seems like some of the parts do use metric threads. Do our cars have a mixture of both SAE and metric? Dan McHatton '66 1600 There a bunch of metric sizes that were dropped when the ISO standard was agreed upon. There was 5x.75, 5x.8 and 5x.9 in the 5mm size. 5x.8 is the current standard. On the early roadsters, things Nissan assembled, bodies, engines and such were SAE, usually fine thread. Stuff they purchased as an assembly, carbs, gauges, tended to be metric. keith **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) From cfcoker at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 10:50:49 2007 From: cfcoker at gmail.com (Chris Coker) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:50:49 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster air filter question ... In-Reply-To: <476751B8.4030107@comcast.net> References: <4766BF5D.13403.1EAA1FD@localhost> <000901c84123$6dab9000$426fa8c0@desktop> <476751B8.4030107@comcast.net> Message-ID: <81bc029a0712200950p46407105seef7f716897582ff@mail.gmail.com> I built a cold air box for my race car, used the left headlight opening for air-intake. A lot of trial and error involved, but overall is was an improvement. One thing to keep in mind...if you get a decent enough ram-air effect, the pressure differential between the fuel at the jet, and the fuel at the top of the floats can cause funny things to happy to happen with the fuel level at the nozzle jet. Best approach is to also connect the overflows from the float tops to the air box. This equalizes the pressure differential "seen" by the carburettor. some old pictures of the work in progress (and while I still owned the car) are here: http://www.risensonracing.com/images/axleairbox/axleairbox.html Chris Coker From ljordan704 at netscape.net Thu Dec 20 11:09:42 2007 From: ljordan704 at netscape.net (ljordan704 at netscape.net) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:09:42 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Was cleaning carbs / Now pre-ISO threads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CA114AA1310991-810-11B@webmail-me04.sysops.aol.com> Do the fuel pump screws work? They look the same. Also, has anyone looked into getting them made? The Screw Project....yikes. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Keith0alan at aol.com To: hallosb at juno.com; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 9:12 am Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Was cleaning carbs / Now pre-ISO threads There a bunch of metric sizes that were dropped when the ISO standard was agreed upon. There was 5x.75, 5x.8 and 5x.9 in the 5mm size. 5x.8 is the current standard. On the early roadsters, things Nissan assembled, bodies, engines and such were SAE, usually fine thread. Stuff they purchased as an assembly, carbs, gauges, tended to be metric. keith * ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AIM(R) Mail ! - http://webmail.aim.com From gregs672liter at netzero.net Thu Dec 20 11:14:48 2007 From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:14:48 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Another new Spark Plug......... Message-ID: <20071220.101448.27920.0@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> Seems to me like hocus pocus, but who knows... the idea of a longer more powerful spark is at the heart of MSD and Jacobs ignition systems. I can atest to the power of a Jacobs Pro Street system from my own experience. One year on the way to Shasta I was experimenting with different spark plugs and was running some AC Delco brand plugs (dumb). Somewhere along the line I blew the center electode out of one plug (poor quality? Got too hot?), creating a gap that was well over a quarter inch long. There was NO electrode, only insulator showing. The Jacob system continued to fire that plug so well that around town I could not tell a difference... it was only at highway speeds that the car would start to miss. I thought I had a fuel delivery problem until I pulled the plugs. I still have it in my glove box, just to show. Greg Burrows 67 2000 -- "Daryl Smith" wrote: "Pulstar" pulse plug....."featuring a unique capacitor based pulse circuit" (Is this a capacitive discharge ignition without the (MSD etc.) control box??) http://www.pulstarplug.com/ I'm all for a better spark plug.....IF IT WORKS!! This latest incarnation makes all the familiar claims and comes with a satisfaction guarantee, but no specific numbers (ie: 2, 5, 10 % increase) to use for a measure.......at least Bosch, with their +2 and +4 gave a specific increase in their claims.....just not for our cars. The magazine ad in "Popular Mechanics" also has some "ignition plume" shots that look familiar....... If it is so good, why aren't the auto OEM's using them.......?? Daryl _____________________________________________________________ Click for free info on discount teaching degrees programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4ueZ2MpxnoTeyx5pYKHq5dT7 Gwp7Y0K7UhtbD6TdfOwmfTXg/ From gregs672liter at netzero.net Thu Dec 20 11:19:48 2007 From: gregs672liter at netzero.net (gregs672liter at netzero.net) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:19:48 GMT Subject: [Roadsters] Eject button Message-ID: <20071220.101948.27920.2@webmail09.vgs.untd.com> I work in an ER. Wear a seat belt. Wear a helmet. Period, end of story. Greg Burrows -- "chalsted" wrote: my mom, dad, and sister would have all likely died in car crashes in the mid sixties if it weren't for wearing seatbelts...common denominator- my mom was driving... dad's door ripped off the car as it slid along the ground on it's side and he would have been pulled out and crushed without a seatbelt. fractured 2 vertebra and had a bunch of lacerations but lived...mother and sister were doing 70 in Michigan back when that was the speed limit in our '66 Fury wagon, were rear-ended by a drunk doing an estimated 130 plus- shot them forward knocking out over 150 ft of guardrail and then they rolled until they came to the bottom of the embankment- another 100 ft plus. both had a black eye (we kidded them about doing a Tarryton cigarette commercial) whiplash and swelling in their ankles, but otherwise ok. passenger in the car the drunk was driving (it was her car, he'd met her that night) went thru the windshield and skidded along the road on her face....obviously not wearing a seatbelt...guy who was drunk but wearing his seatbelt was released on his own recognizance the next morning and disappeared, was never located. I'm a firm believer in seatbelts...and I always wear a helmet when riding a motorcycle or quad, always. wrecked a Goldwing once when someone stepped out in front of me and it was hit them or run into a parked car...got a serious scrape down the back of the helmet and on off the shoulder of my leather jacket from jumping over the car and doing a tuck and roll, but I walked away... had to bail from a quad a couple years ago when I caught a root in a trail cut into the side of a hill and it sent me airborne in a barrel roll- landed about 20' out and 10' down from where I left the trail, broke my collarbone into 4 pieces but no head trauma because I had a helmet on. quad came to rest on top of me after landing and rolling, but if I hadn't bailed it would have hit the ground upside down with me squished underneath. doubt I would have survived that even with the helmet. fwiw.... Craig _____________________________________________________________ Online Stock Trading - Straightforward pricing. Powerful tools. Click here! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4tFWsBUGzIQCMh8ap7dw1zlY IC5IhhmzW0Ih0Yy1jvzsrBhT/ From az589 at lafn.org Thu Dec 20 11:40:41 2007 From: az589 at lafn.org (Stan Chernoff) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:40:41 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Test message Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20071220103936.026fe618@lafn.org> Not receiving messages starting yesterday. Missed a bunch. From twobeaners at earthlink.net Thu Dec 20 11:40:11 2007 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:40:11 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster beats out MGA in SCCA GP Championship Message-ID: <005501c84337$c1324aa0$6500a8c0@lap> No, the roadster didn't win it, but it was a lot of fun watching Bill Wessel's "duel for fourth place" with the '62 MGA. Bill was closing in for third during the final laps before he hit the mud, and tagged the wall. He finished 5th, 2 places ahead of the MGA. How fast are those guys going in those races anyway? Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5speed From cfcoker at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 12:20:23 2007 From: cfcoker at gmail.com (Chris Coker) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:20:23 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster beats out MGA in SCCA GP Championship In-Reply-To: <005501c84337$c1324aa0$6500a8c0@lap> References: <005501c84337$c1324aa0$6500a8c0@lap> Message-ID: <81bc029a0712201120x5d3d336fkad3667fe93566340@mail.gmail.com> At that track, the AVERAGE lap speed for that class is about 75-85 mph, based on their qualifying lap times. Trap speeds weren't available, but my guess is that top speed is between 100-110 mph. When they ran at Mid Ohio, I know Bill had a top speed of 112 mph, and the top guys were running between 100-117. Bill's 1600 motor, with SU carbs, is making somewhere in the neighborhood of 135+ hp. With the racing slicks you can run in that class, the cornering speeds are quite high. Bill is a very good driver, and races on a shoestring budget (comparatively speaking). Always good to seem him do well against folks who are spending a lot more money. But, having raced with a lot of those guys, they're all good people. :) Chris From vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Thu Dec 20 12:23:27 2007 From: vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com (steven boortz) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:23:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster beats out MGA in SCCA GP Championship Message-ID: <100090.79653.qm@web81411.mail.mud.yahoo.com> it was great to watch the battle between the roadster and the mga. but i held by breath when bill was powersliding through the mud! s 675MIZU (that will be back on track in the spring with numerous mods from last year) ----- Original Message ---- From: Chris Coker To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:20:23 AM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Roadster beats out MGA in SCCA GP Championship At that track, the AVERAGE lap speed for that class is about 75-85 mph, based on their qualifying lap times. Trap speeds weren't available, but my guess is that top speed is between 100-110 mph. When they ran at Mid Ohio, I know Bill had a top speed of 112 mph, and the top guys were running between 100-117. Bill's 1600 motor, with SU carbs, is making somewhere in the neighborhood of 135+ hp. With the racing slicks you can run in that class, the cornering speeds are quite high. Bill is a very good driver, and races on a shoestring budget (comparatively speaking). Always good to seem him do well against folks who are spending a lot more money. But, having raced with a lot of those guys, they're all good people. :) Chris You are subscribed as vociferouschicanery at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From roundrocktom at yahoo.com Thu Dec 20 12:37:57 2007 From: roundrocktom at yahoo.com (thomas walter) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:37:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] screws non-ISO In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <819567.53972.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Keith, The '67.5 models (all 67 2000, 67.5 1600) used the non-ISO threads. Threads are common in FRANCE! :) So just pop over to the local Buggati Dealer to pick some up. (I really wish I was kidding, but I'm not). I pretty much cleaned out the 'master rebuild carb kits' from Datsun some years back to find those screws. Latter years cut the threads on my lathe (0.75) Very close to 34 tpi threading. Brownells has some "uncut" screw threads that gun smiths use to make replacement screws. I had lucked out in getting a set of #10 oversize that with the old 34 (1940's lathe, btw) thread worked out nicely. Only problem with 'hand made screws' I'd have to charge $10/screw to cover my time! :) Tom >Nope, won't work. The early carbs (1500, most 1600, some 2000) are 5x.75 >pre-ISO metric. Some 1600, most 2L and the Z carbs are 5x.8 ISO metric. If >anyone has found a source for the 5x.75 screws I would love to hear about it. >keith --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Dec 20 12:46:51 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:46:51 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] cleaning carbs Message-ID: <122020071946.26007.476AC6AB000DFC13000065972205886172CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> I've seen Viton tubing suggested as a viable replacement. Commonly(?) used in RC models for fuel line. ...or does that suffer old age hardening, too? Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Keith0alan at aol.com > In a message dated 12/19/2007 3:06:11 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, > tom at datsun2000.com writes: > > I have used chain saw fuel line for the flex hose at the bottom of the SU > nozzle. It is available from any small engine service or mower shop. It > was yellow and worked perfectly. > > Tom > 69 2000 - Mr. Hyde > Portland > http://www.dataun2000.com > http://www.nowroc.org > > > > Hello all, > > The problem with chain saw fuel line is that after a few years is gets > very hard and stiff. For the chokes to work properly the hose must be very > flexible. I have 30+ year old original lines that are still flexible and > working > fine. Most anything else I've seen gets hard as a rock. If you use chain saw > type tubing just plan to change it every couple of years. Ztherapy has the > only aftermarket tubing that I am aware of that works properly. It is what I > use on my refurbed carbs. > > keith williams > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 20 13:34:12 2007 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:34:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Repair Manual CD on Ebay Message-ID: <784330.84582.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Lars, Is this the same guy from whom you purchased your CD? Albert A Albertson Boynton Beach, FL 33426 United States Patti --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Thu Dec 20 13:37:12 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (ppeters914 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:37:12 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Test message Message-ID: <122020072037.25984.476AD27800030BE5000065802200745672CBCEC79C9D0A9B0A9F9F@comcast.net> That's because I only replied to you instead of the list. This reply is only to the list. Pete -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Stan Chernoff > Pete, > > Thanks. It didn't come back to me through the list? I got a direct > message from you. > > Could you reply with a copy to the list? > > > Stan > ======= > > At 10:59 AM 12/20/2007, you wrote: > >Your test msg made it to the list. > > > >Pete > > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > >From: Stan Chernoff > > > Not receiving messages starting yesterday. Missed a bunch. > > > ________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > You are subscribed as ppeters914 at comcast.net > > > > > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From racery at comcast.net Thu Dec 20 13:44:30 2007 From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:44:30 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Long live GP... oops... Message-ID: <122020072044.10532.476AD42E00011563000029242213528573979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> Sadly, there weren't enough G Production racers this season, so GP is not coming back as a 'national' class. Many of the other small bore Production classes are facing the same problem- just not enough people building and racing cars. Part of it's the massification of modern cars- all but the smallest econoboxes are TOO BIG to be raced safely at the club level... They're probably topping out at 115mph at HPT, now that it's reconfigured... mmm, that might be a bit high... Toby E Production bmw 2002... "No, the roadster didn't win it, but it was a lot of fun watching Bill Wessel's "duel for fourth place" with the '62 MGA. Bill was closing in for third during the final laps before he hit the mud, and tagged the wall. He finished 5th, 2 places ahead of the MGA. How fast are those guys going in those races anyway?" Mike Hudson '67 - Stroker / 5speed From info at sportsimports.ca Thu Dec 20 14:45:39 2007 From: info at sportsimports.ca (Ross Mullen / Sports Imports) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:45:39 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] carb foat bowl fuel line In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B7166CC-86F2-44F8-AE80-F874036B6284@sportsimports.ca> Sports imports carries these. we have about 260 in stock and would love to get rid of some. $24 ea for genuine nissan part. by the way, we just bought a new building and our address is: 19122 27th ave Unit #4, Surrey, BC Canada V3A 2N4 From info at sportsimports.ca Thu Dec 20 15:21:10 2007 From: info at sportsimports.ca (Ross Mullen / Sports Imports) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:21:10 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] carb float bowl fuel line In-Reply-To: <0B7166CC-86F2-44F8-AE80-F874036B6284@sportsimports.ca> References: <0B7166CC-86F2-44F8-AE80-F874036B6284@sportsimports.ca> Message-ID: oops on the typo should read float bowl not foat bowl ross On 20-Dec-07, at 1:45 PM, Ross Mullen / Sports Imports wrote: > Sports imports carries these. we have about 260 in stock and would > love to get rid of some. $24 ea for genuine nissan part. > by the way, we just bought a new building and our address is: > > 19122 27th ave Unit #4, > Surrey, BC > Canada V3A 2N4 > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as info at sportsimports.ca > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From lars.tungen at abaris.no Thu Dec 20 15:49:22 2007 From: lars.tungen at abaris.no (Lars Tungen) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:49:22 +0100 Subject: [Roadsters] Repair Manual CD on Ebay In-Reply-To: <784330.84582.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <072701c8435a$90821160$333ea8c0@ABARIS.LOCAL> He was careful in hiding his name in all the communication. Paypal statement included. But one of the emails I got was signed "Al" and the company's customer service email was "HYPERLINK "mailto:gr72372 at gmail.com"gr72372 at gmail.com", which is very similar to his old ebay id. The seller was "itgetsnobetter" and the company was "Tri-Star Innovations". PayPal email was HYPERLINK "mailto:tristarr at gmail.com"tristarr at gmail.com. I posted a description on what was on the CD in this thread on 311s.org: HYPERLINK "http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7074"http://www.311s.org/phpBB2/ viewtopic.php?t=7074 Lars Tungen Norway Online Fairlady Parts Catalog available at: HYPERLINK "http://Datsun311Parts.tungen.net"http://Datsun311Parts.tungen.net _____ From: Patti Dwinell [mailto:fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com] Sent: 20. desember 2007 21:34 To: Lars Tungen; datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Repair Manual CD on Ebay Lars, Is this the same guy from whom you purchased your CD? Albert A Albertson Boynton Beach, FL 33426 United States Patti _____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. HYPERLINK "http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8 HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ"Try it now. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18.12.2007 21:40 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1189 - Release Date: 18.12.2007 21:40 From granvillecomputing at hotmail.com Thu Dec 20 17:32:13 2007 From: granvillecomputing at hotmail.com (peter harrison) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:32:13 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Somewhat OT : Happy Holidays Message-ID: Hi List, Just wanted to wish al the fellow roadsters(owners/preservators) out there a wonderful holiday season ( however you celebrate it ). Whatever your beliefs (religious or otherwise) this can be a season for all to be a bit more generous to our fellow (man/woman) and for you in the colder climes time to get your roadster ready for the warmer climes. It seems that for us in the warmer climes - summer os the best time for doing stuff ) i.e. it is often too hot to dtive happily ( at least for me) So happy roadstering - we are dping a grand job of keeping thiese little beatiues on the road and that is our purpose. So enjoy I will be spending a good deal of time in getting Eliza cleaned up after the trip - still have the earned 'patina' problem though. Happy holidays See soem of you locally and some of you at Solvang. Cheers Peter From tputland at charter.net Thu Dec 20 18:48:05 2007 From: tputland at charter.net (Tim) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:48:05 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Any one heard from Matt Smith lately? Message-ID: <20071220204805.BWGIF.524930.root@fepweb14> I have been trying to get ahold of Matt and have had no luck. Does any one know if he is ok? I know he was going through chemo, but have not heard any thing from him lately. I even sent him a message through his blog site and no luck... Worried in WI. Tim Belleville, WI. '70 SPL AND SRL Still clueless but always learning From drlsmith at dccnet.com Thu Dec 20 21:37:10 2007 From: drlsmith at dccnet.com (Daryl Smith) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:37:10 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Fw: Another new Spark Plug......... Message-ID: <001901c8438b$26f1b8f0$2935cf18@Daryl> "Seems to me like hocus pocus, but who knows... " Well, after reading the website some more, I would say a whole lot of hocus pocus! $25 each is awful steep. Guess they don't have to convince quite as many people to buy them before they break even..... BUT, the plugs deliver up to 1,000,000 watts of power!! Now won't that put a load on your ignition/electrical system!! The average coil puts out about 40,000 volts now, that would be about 25 amps......I don't know of ANY ignition system capable of that kind of power....???? And if ours could....you'd best not turn on the headlights! Almost all the new electronic ignition systems are very good. Even the stock OEM systems are very, very good (GM HEI, Ford EDIS, etc.) Daryl From mhknorr at msn.com Thu Dec 20 22:48:30 2007 From: mhknorr at msn.com (Michael Knorr) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:48:30 -0700 Subject: [Roadsters] Somewhat OT : Happy Holidays Message-ID: . . . And Happy Holidays to you also, Peter. Happy Holidays to all of you Roadster pilots, passengers, fans, what have you. I understand the Reindeers are in a sympathy strike with the Hollywood writers, so Santa has to use his Japanese sleigh this year. Considering the amount of snow falling outside my home office window at the moment, I just saw Santa roar by: http://s192.photobucket.com/albums/z24/mhknorr/?action=view¤t=santacard1A.jpg Merry Christmas All, Michael Knorr 1966 SPL311-03639 From James at jdfogg.com Fri Dec 21 01:07:56 2007 From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:07:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Another new Spark Plug......... Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571B3@sbs.jdfogg.com> > "Pulstar" pulse plug....."featuring a unique capacitor based pulse > circuit" > (Is this a capacitive discharge ignition without the (MSD etc.) control > box??) > > http://www.pulstarplug.com/ > > I'm all for a better spark plug.....IF IT WORKS!! Well, it would work, but only as good (maybe) as a normal plug. This is pure snake oil. They don't go into enough detail, but if the drawing is true what you have is a basic RLC circuit, known as a "tank" circuit. The problem is R is variable (by an air gap) and needs to be stable and a fixed value, and C is going to be way too small, and with not enough space for a proper dielectric and plate separation for the voltages and frequencies involved. And creating a shorter and hotter "pulse" is trivial to do with coil-on-plug and distributor-less designs. If it were truly beneficial, it would have been done. A longer duration spark is going to do a better job for most cylinder head designs. From datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 21 09:15:11 2007 From: datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net (Mike Kerr) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 08:15:11 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] TEST References: <016601c834d0$4b305600$0574fea9@steb1> Message-ID: <000d01c843ec$af309a40$4001a8c0@gateway.2wire.net> testing ----- Original Message ----- From: "steb" To: Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 2:44 AM Subject: [Roadsters] 68-70 soft top frame question > Group, > > I purchased a new soft top and will be installing it on the top frame > this winter. Several years ago I remember people discussing the fact > that a defect in the sheet metal frame caused it to bend and thus not > allow the top to be attached to the windshield frame correctly. I > believe that a vendor repairs these. Any idea who that would be? > > Thanks > > Steve Harvey > ________________________________________ > > datsun_roadster at sbcglobal.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From garytew at cox.net Fri Dec 21 09:51:43 2007 From: garytew at cox.net (garytew at cox.net) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:51:43 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster running Message-ID: <20071221115143.89DGI.148779.root@fed1rmwml29> It's alive! I successfully fired it up yesterday. The VG30 swap has been challenging but fun. I'm using the Megasquirt EFI computer to control everything. There's a lot of fine tuning ahead but I drove it out of the garage for the 1st time in about 13 years! Lately, I had to spend hours chasing down brake line leaks. I used one of the basic cheapo flare tools. I wound up replacing several of the flares with sections cut off pre-flared lines using compression fittings. I should have checked all of this before anything else was installed and the car was still on the rack. 20/20 hindsight. Also, for some reason, I only tightened about half of the fuel line fittings when I built and installed them. A quick test of the fuel pump reminded me of that but everything snugged up fine. My power window mod isn't working to well. With new fuzzies in the window tracks, there is too much resistance for the motors to overcome. I'm modding a door now to use a straight track hot rod power window kit with a much bigger motor. Updates to come. With this kit, I need the window glass to be about 1.5" shorter. Since tempered glass can't be cut, I ordered new custom side windows from Peninsula Glass Co., in Vancouver. They take my template and cut the glass to size and then run it through the heating process that tempers it. I'll document it on my website and update the progress. Sorry for being long winded. I can't get the smile off my face. Happy Holidays to all. Gary Tew Phoenix, AZ www.members.cox.net/garytew From Keith0alan at aol.com Fri Dec 21 11:29:21 2007 From: Keith0alan at aol.com (Keith0alan at aol.com) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 13:29:21 EST Subject: [Roadsters] screws non-ISO Message-ID: In a message dated 12/20/2007 11:38:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, roundrocktom at yahoo.com writes: Threads are common in FRANCE! :) So just pop over to the local Buggati Dealer to pick some up. (I really wish I was kidding, but I'm not). That's great, I didn't think anyone made them any more. I'll have to see if I can round up a Buggati dealer. keith **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) From ken__pearce at hotmail.com Fri Dec 21 17:36:27 2007 From: ken__pearce at hotmail.com (The Ken Pearce) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:36:27 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] 5-spd rebuild, 5th gear neutral...[update] In-Reply-To: <000801c84419$344509b0$ec896b45@HAL5000> References: <000801c84419$344509b0$ec896b45@HAL5000> Message-ID: Todd, THANKS for the detailed explanation. A kind soul finally sent me a picture of a welded 5th gear and it all made sense after seeing it. I'll post a picture of mine welded as soon as I get it done to benefit the next person seeking "the fix". What I didn't understand was that the 5th gear on the mainshaft is actually two main parts, one pressed into the other. I can't make mine slip by hand, nor could I use my gear puller to separate the two pieces (didn't want to risk breaking the teeth). Again, I'll post a followup after I get mine welded, the tranny reassembled and have confirmed that I once again can drive in 5th gear. Cheers, Ken Pearce Bellingham, WA 68-2000 From d-solomon at comcast.net Fri Dec 21 17:49:03 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:49:03 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster running In-Reply-To: <20071221115143.89DGI.148779.root@fed1rmwml29> References: <20071221115143.89DGI.148779.root@fed1rmwml29> Message-ID: <476C5EFF.9010307@comcast.net> that's awesome! congratulations! I hope you post pics somewhere. And just as an aside: I thought it was a lamination process that tempers glass, not heating. ?? garytew at cox.net wrote: > It's alive! I successfully fired it up yesterday. The VG30 swap has been challenging but fun. I'm using the Megasquirt EFI computer to control everything. There's a lot of fine tuning ahead but I drove it out of the garage for the 1st time in about 13 years! > > Lately, I had to spend hours chasing down brake line leaks. I used one of the basic cheapo flare tools. I wound up replacing several of the flares with sections cut off pre-flared lines using compression fittings. I should have checked all of this before anything else was installed and the car was still on the rack. 20/20 hindsight. Also, for some reason, I only tightened about half of the fuel line fittings when I built and installed them. A quick test of the fuel pump reminded me of that but everything snugged up fine. > > My power window mod isn't working to well. With new fuzzies in the window tracks, there is too much resistance for the motors to overcome. I'm modding a door now to use a straight track hot rod power window kit with a much bigger motor. Updates to come. With this kit, I need the window glass to be about 1.5" shorter. Since tempered glass can't be cut, I ordered new custom side windows from Peninsula Glass Co., in Vancouver. They take my template and cut the glass to size and then run it through the heating process that tempers it. I'll document it on my website and update the progress. > > Sorry for being long winded. I can't get the smile off my face. > > Happy Holidays to all. > Gary Tew > Phoenix, AZ > www.members.cox.net/garytew > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Dec 21 17:54:44 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:54:44 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Glass In-Reply-To: <476C5EFF.9010307@comcast.net> References: <20071221115143.89DGI.148779.root@fed1rmwml29> Message-ID: <476BEFD4.9612.1A9EF6D@localhost> > I thought it was a lamination process that tempers glass, not heating. Safety glass, like the front wind screen ("windshield"), is composed of two layers of glass with a plastic 'liner' in between. It shatters but is held together by being bound to the plastic. Tempered glass is a single pane that shatters into rounded edges. Shower doors are tempered. -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From daveandlindab at comcast.net Fri Dec 21 19:29:23 2007 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:29:23 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Another new Spark Plug......... In-Reply-To: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571B3@sbs.jdfogg.com> Message-ID: <000001c84442$7822b550$6600a8c0@chrissy> So, the big question, do you get one sticker per plug, or just one sticker per set. And are they multi color, or the outline ones? The # of stickers could be a variable in the equation also, S. If this is a scam, which it must be, what's the deal with the Nology plug wires everyone was peeling off big bucks for, same mumbo jumbo, better stickers? If they do work, do I need 10 gauge wire and a set of forklift contacts for an ignition switch? 1,000,000 watts, maybe he meant 1,000,000 mWatts? Or Whats? The extra speed may blow the deer repellant whistles off my front bumper! > "Pulstar" pulse plug....."featuring a unique capacitor based pulse > circuit" (Is this a capacitive discharge ignition without the (MSD > etc.) control > box??) > > http://www.pulstarplug.com/ > > I'm all for a better spark plug.....IF IT WORKS!! Well, it would work, but only as good (maybe) as a normal plug. This is pure snake oil. They don't go into enough detail, but if the drawing is true what you have is a basic RLC circuit, known as a "tank" circuit. The problem is R is variable (by an air gap) and needs to be stable and a fixed value, and C is going to be way too small, and with not enough space for a proper dielectric and plate separation for the voltages and frequencies involved. And creating a shorter and hotter "pulse" is trivial to do with coil-on-plug and distributor-less designs. If it were truly beneficial, it would have been done. A longer duration spark is going to do a better job for most cylinder head designs. From andycost at embarqmail.com Fri Dec 21 19:37:42 2007 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (Andy Cost) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:37:42 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Glass Message-ID: More than you ever wanted to know about glass. I test windows for hurricane performance at my laboratory. There are many different kinds of glass. Annealed glass is just regular glass that breaks into large pieces. Heat strengthened glass is heated and cooled to make it stronger than annealed but still breaks into large pieces. Tempered glass is heated and cooled rapidly. This makes it very strong. It can be up to four times stronger than annealed glass of the same thickness. When it breaks it breaks into lots of small pieces. Laminated glass is two or more pieces of glass with a plastic interlayer between. It can be annealed, heat strengthened, or tempered. Typically the interlayer is poly vinyl butylene or polycarbonate. All windows in cars are tempered as well as windows in your house that are in the kitchen, bathroom, hallways, and doors or next to doors. Car windshields are laminated tempered glass. It used to be that the glass was laminated annealed. This gave rise to the dreaded glass necktie which was a condition where the head would go through the laminate in an accident and the large annealed shards did a number on the neck. Now they use tempered glass and less brittle PVB interlayer which allows the plastic to stretch without the head rupturing it. The small tempered pieces still make cuts but don't cause the horrific glass necktie. One of the tests we run in the lab is to swing a 100 pound ball into a piece of tempered glass and then sort through to find the 10 largest pieces. We weigh the pieces. If they are too big then the manufacturer is not allowed to etch the certification mark on the corner of the glass. Another test is for hurricane flying debris protection. We shoot a 2x4 at the window. Laminated glass with a 0.090" thick innerlayer will typically keep the 2x4 from penetrating. We then blow 9000 wind gusts at 150 mph at the window. Sometimes the sharp edges of the large annealed glass shards will saw a hole through the innerlayer while the window heaves in and out as the wind gusts blow. If this happens the manufacturer sometimes opts to test again with tempered laminated glass. This beaks into smaller pieces when we impact with the 2x4 and has less chance of forming a rupture during the wind cycles. Tempered glass cannot be cut to size after it is tempered. Typically a window manufacturer will order crates of annealed glass that are 10' x 10'. They then cut it to the right size for the window. Tempered glass has to be supplied in the pre-cut sizes and are therefore much more expensive. Another problem with tempered is that it gets wavy during the tempering process. If anyone is still awake or interested I can post up information about sealed insulating glass, fogging, condensation, the myth about argon fill, energy efficiency, solar heat gain, or just about anything else window related. Andy From James at jdfogg.com Fri Dec 21 19:57:46 2007 From: James at jdfogg.com (James Fogg) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 21:57:46 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Another new Spark Plug......... Message-ID: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571B5@sbs.jdfogg.com> > So, the big question, do you get one sticker per plug, or just one sticker > per set. And are they multi color, or the outline ones? The # of stickers > could be a variable in the equation also, S. If this is a scam, which it > must be, what's the deal with the Nology plug wires everyone was peeling > off > big bucks for, same mumbo jumbo, better stickers? If they do work, do I > need 10 gauge wire and a set of forklift contacts for an ignition switch? > 1,000,000 watts, maybe he meant 1,000,000 mWatts? Or Whats? The extra > speed > may blow the deer repellant whistles off my front bumper! Well now you're talking! I have a similar quandary about go-faster stripes for my Mustang. Do I just use the factory rocker stripes or go for the boy-racer nose to tail hood/roof/deck stripes? I need to know which one will best improve my ET and fuel mileage. Now, oddly, there is some benefit to better ignition wires. But when I say better, I mean compared to junk manufactured for 10 cents per wire and sold at Wal-Mart. I know nothing of Nology, but I do know it was getting hard to find decent plug wires no matter how much you spent. It was starting to get where they were mostly manufactured the same way and just sold at different profit margins. This is all similar to what Monster Cable did for (to) the audio/video market. If you studied Electrical Engineering in school it was hard to keep your lunch down when you saw the claims Monster Cable made. From d-solomon at comcast.net Fri Dec 21 20:23:47 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (Daniel Solomon) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:23:47 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Glass In-Reply-To: <476BEFD4.9612.1A9EF6D@localhost> References: <20071221115143.89DGI.148779.root@fed1rmwml29> <476BEFD4.9612.1A9EF6D@localhost> Message-ID: <476C8343.1000902@comcast.net> I see where I was mistaken. I was confusing the process for manufacturing Safety Glass with Tempered Glass. thanks anyhoo! Dan John F Sandhoff wrote: >> I thought it was a lamination process that tempers glass, not heating. >> > > Safety glass, like the front wind screen ("windshield"), is composed > of two layers of glass with a plastic 'liner' in between. It shatters but > is held together by being bound to the plastic. > > Tempered glass is a single pane that shatters into rounded edges. > Shower doors are tempered. > > -- John > John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From sandhoff at csus.edu Fri Dec 21 23:58:39 2007 From: sandhoff at csus.edu (John F Sandhoff) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 22:58:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Aftermarket [was: Another new Spark Plug] In-Reply-To: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571B5@sbs.jdfogg.com> References: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571B5@sbs.jdfogg.com> Message-ID: > Well now you're talking! I have a similar quandary about go-faster > stripes for my Mustang. Do I just use the factory rocker stripes or go > for the boy-racer nose to tail hood/roof/deck stripes? I need to know > which one will best improve my ET and fuel mileage. Oh, come on. EVERYbody knows that aftermarket is ALWAYS higher performance :-) -- John John F Sandhoff sandhoff at csus.edu Sacramento, CA From 9laser3 at bright.net Fri Dec 21 04:39:39 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:39:39 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Aftermarket [was: Another new Spark Plug] References: <4EE5D8CA323707439EF291AC9244BD9A2571B5@sbs.jdfogg.com> Message-ID: <001901c843c6$33d2d5a0$8f21ffd8@hpcustomer> ----- Original Message ----- From: John F Sandhoff > Oh, come on. EVERYbody knows that aftermarket is ALWAYS higher > performance :-) > -- John That may apply with domestic cars, but we all know JDM NOS is the best! Paul Ohio From 69roadster at comcast.net Mon Dec 24 11:23:14 2007 From: 69roadster at comcast.net (69roadster at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:23:14 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Metal Door plates.... Message-ID: <122420071823.24478.476FF912000C76E900005F9E22007636929D0A9B9C0B0E019DC7C0@comcast.net> We are trying to get some information regarding the sheet metal that sits inside the door when opened. I don't know what this would actually be called, but it's silver sheet metal (like the metal on the lower part of the door) that sits above the rocker panel when the door is opened. We are trying to find some good close up photos, that show not only how the metal sits in there - but more so how the seal fits in there as well. If you could someone could be so kind as to email me some good quality photos of this I would really appreciate it. Also, is there anyone/anywhere that we could purchase those metal pieces? Ours are a little more beat up than we'd prefer and so far haven't been able to clean them very well. Thanks, -Scott From jklingman at stny.rr.com Mon Dec 24 12:11:21 2007 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:11:21 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Happy Holidays Message-ID: <000a01c84660$c5912e50$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> To all on the list we send holiday greetings and wish all a Happy New Year. Thank you for all the information and threads shared, and the stories and pictures, and humor. It is great to have so much knowledge and wisdom to tap into. We have corrected mistakes and avoided others with what you have shared. Roadster update: Spike is in the garage for the winter and so are we, all the bondo ( not much) and weak metal is gone and replaced with lead or sheet metal, dents are out and car is primed and just about ready to paint. The cracked trunk floor area is replaced and the gas tank has a cradle. #1 job was the emergency releases for the hood and trunk, thank you Dana S. and Charlie B. for that advice at the Glen. ''New" hood, thank you Craig, is ready to install. A friend is fabricating a new roll bar and checking for weak spots on the interior. Mirrors are off the doors and will go on the fenders about 10" from the windshield, thank you Mark for that advice. We had not realized the door metal around the mirror mounts was stressed until it was pointed out to us. The stock seats are out and being refurbished. Now we just have to put the car back together. Merry Christmas All, Gloria and John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike From ecards at yahoo.americangreetings.com Mon Dec 24 16:02:51 2007 From: ecards at yahoo.americangreetings.com (Ecard from Yahoo! Greetings) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:02:51 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Patti has sent you an ecard from Yahoo! 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Greetings From jones_barton at msn.com Mon Dec 24 19:50:59 2007 From: jones_barton at msn.com (Jones Barton) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:50:59 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Metal Door plates.... References: <122420071823.24478.476FF912000C76E900005F9E22007636929D0A9B9C0B0E019DC7C0@comcast.net> Message-ID: Scott, Not sure how beat up you panels are, but I had mine powder coated in a silver and they came out real nice. Jones Barton 1969 1600 Steilacoom WA ----- Original Message ----- From: 69roadster at comcast.net To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: [Roadsters] Metal Door plates.... We are trying to get some information regarding the sheet metal that sits inside the door when opened. I don't know what this would actually be called, but it's silver sheet metal (like the metal on the lower part of the door) that sits above the rocker panel when the door is opened. We are trying to find some good close up photos, that show not only how the metal sits in there - but more so how the seal fits in there as well. If you could someone could be so kind as to email me some good quality photos of this I would really appreciate it. Also, is there anyone/anywhere that we could purchase those metal pieces? Ours are a little more beat up than we'd prefer and so far haven't been able to clean them very well. Thanks, -Scott ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as jones_barton at msn.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From dc at classicracingphotos.com Mon Dec 24 20:49:36 2007 From: dc at classicracingphotos.com (Dennis Currington) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:49:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Nissan Christmas GIfts Featured on Top Gear Show Message-ID: <676911.24761.qm@web82410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Check out this episode of Top Gear. It features last minute gifts from Nissan http://classicracingphotos.com/k.html Merry Christmas Dennis http://classicracingphotos.com/Christmas07.html --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From msedlack at neo.rr.com Mon Dec 24 21:40:17 2007 From: msedlack at neo.rr.com (Mark Sedlack) Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 23:40:17 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Happy Holidays to All Message-ID: <000a01c846b0$3fb90e60$6501a8c0@p428ghz> Here's an ornament to bring Christmas Cheer...Enjoy the Season. http://www.mildevco.net/2007_christmas_image.jpg Mark From andycost at embarqmail.com Wed Dec 26 15:01:47 2007 From: andycost at embarqmail.com (andycost at embarqmail.com) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:01:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? Message-ID: <206987.3453971198706507107.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few days. Andy From jones_barton at msn.com Wed Dec 26 15:19:14 2007 From: jones_barton at msn.com (Jones Barton) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:19:14 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? References: <206987.3453971198706507107.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: Andy, There is at least one person form the list up. I did get a chance to do a short run on new years. I just had the transmission redone. With the new clutch, a left rubber for about 3 inches, not use to my car being able to do that. I also changed out the turn signal arm. that corrected a lot of the issues I had with lights. the only problem I had was the plug had different knife connectors so I had to use the old one and solder all the wires to the old plug. It does not automatically turn off the signal when I go around the corner, but that is something to be figured out on another day. I am starting to get to the age where it is ok to leave the turn signal on for a couple of miles. Jones Barton 1969 1600 Steilacoom Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: andycost at embarqmail.com To: datsun-roadsters Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:01 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few days. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as jones_barton at msn.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jones_barton at msn.com Wed Dec 26 15:25:33 2007 From: jones_barton at msn.com (Jones Barton) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:25:33 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? References: <206987.3453971198706507107.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: Correction, I must have been back to the future, the actual date was Christmas eve ----- Original Message ----- From: Jones Barton To: datsun-roadsters ; andycost at embarqmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? Andy, There is at least one person form the list up. I did get a chance to do a short run on new years. I just had the transmission redone. With the new clutch, a left rubber for about 3 inches, not use to my car being able to do that. I also changed out the turn signal arm. that corrected a lot of the issues I had with lights. the only problem I had was the plug had different knife connectors so I had to use the old one and solder all the wires to the old plug. It does not automatically turn off the signal when I go around the corner, but that is something to be figured out on another day. I am starting to get to the age where it is ok to leave the turn signal on for a couple of miles. Jones Barton 1969 1600 Steilacoom Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: andycost at embarqmail.com> To: datsun-roadsters> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:01 PM Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few days. Andy ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> You are subscribed as jones_barton at msn.com> Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters t/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters> ________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as jones_barton at msn.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From gsglasgow at comcast.net Wed Dec 26 15:27:25 2007 From: gsglasgow at comcast.net (Gordon Glasgow) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 14:27:25 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <206987.3453971198706507107.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: Nobody here but us hermits. ;-) We just had a more hectic Christmas season than usual. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of andycost at embarqmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:02 PM To: datsun-roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few days. Andy From jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Wed Dec 26 15:30:59 2007 From: jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com (Joe Russo) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:30:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <206987.3453971198706507107.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <001f01c8480e$fd8764f0$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR> Hello Andy and the rest of the listers Christmas was busy, cooking, eating, drinking but today I had a day off from work and decided to relax in the garage with my 70 SRL311 project. Thanks to Mark, Sid and Dave for finding this car while we were at Watkins Glen. It's coming along nicely. I am just finishing up some front end work. New lower ball joints, new polyurethane boots on all rod links and ball joints, new brake hoses and caliper rubber seals. I have new wheel bearings ready to install but I am waiting (still) on the oil seals. I bought them twice so far, both from chain stores on-line - both time they came in wrong. Finally placed an order with Nissan directly...they shipped today. She has all new steel fuel lines from the tank forward and the rubber hoses from the fuel pump to the carbs along with new radiator hoses and heater hoses and other rubber stuff under the hood. After the front end, it's on to preparing the body for paint. It is currently repainted some funky yellow color (looks like a Chevy yellow) but I am taking it back to the original color - Grey Poly (code 666). Nice, eh? Rear brakes are new, engine runs strong, good compression, nice running SU carbs. After the paint and a little interior work...I am thinking of giving this car to my girl for her b-day...gasp! Mark, Sid, Dave...tell me there's a better way... Happy New Year to all! Joe 70 SPL311 (U20) 70 SRL311 71 PL510 (L18 SSS) 72 HLS30 -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+jrusso07=rochester.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of andycost at embarqmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 5:02 PM To: datsun-roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few days. Andy You are subscribed as jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From d-solomon at comcast.net Wed Dec 26 15:34:17 2007 From: d-solomon at comcast.net (d-solomon at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 22:34:17 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? Message-ID: <122620072234.29450.4772D6E90007FD050000730A22007358340201030104019CD30B@comcast.net> If there are others like me; we use the Boss' time to post to the list.... so when we're not at work, the posts are few and far between! :-) seriously: hope you all had a wonderful holiday. I didn't get to work on my roadster project, but I DID get some tools for it! (I got a nibbler, a brake and a flange/punch so I can get to work seriously on the bodywork) Thanks for this year of help, advice, opinion and fun. Dan in SLC -------------- Original message -------------- From: andycost at embarqmail.com > Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few days. > > > > Andy > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as d-solomon at comcast.net > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From twobeaners at earthlink.net Wed Dec 26 15:49:09 2007 From: twobeaners at earthlink.net (Mike H.) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:49:09 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? Message-ID: <006601c84811$877ed7e0$6500a8c0@lap> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike H." To: "Gordon Glasgow" Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? > Hey!! > I'm here, too! I got a neat gift grom Roadster Claus, "Tuning the 'A Series" > Engine by David Vizard. I realize not everybody has a thirst for the > technical but for those of you who do, like myself, this book lives up to > its' reputation. Although it is specifically about the British Leyland "A > Series" engine used in numerous models of their production, the roadster is > a 4-inline engine, after all. And most or much of the science still applies. > It covers in extreme detail, SU and Weber carb filtration and tuning, > cylinder head, manifolds, camshafts, and valve events, all the good stuff to > say the least. As the author himself points out in the beginning of the > book, performance is primarily about air flow in all respects, and for the > most part, that is what the book focuses on. I feel like a salesman, I just > get excited about a good read, I'll calm dowm now and get back to my book! > :-) > Mike Hudson '67 - stroker / 5speed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gordon Glasgow" > To: ; "datsun-roadsters" > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 4:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? > > > > Nobody here but us hermits. ;-) > > > > We just had a more hectic Christmas season than usual. > > > > Gordon Glasgow > > Renton, WA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net > > [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On > > Behalf Of andycost at embarqmail.com > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:02 PM > > To: datsun-roadsters > > Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? > > > > > > Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few days. > > > > > > > > Andy > > ________________________________________ From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Dec 26 17:10:55 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:10:55 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: G Prod Runoffs coverage Message-ID: <000301c8481c$f626ef10$6501a8c0@xp> FYI...... -----Original Message----- From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com [mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of David Patten Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:41 PM To: Ronnie Day Cc: 510 Subject: Re: G Prod Runoffs coverage > if G Prodgoes away, the cars could move up to F or down to H. Don't > how competitive they'd be in F, but they just were in the hunt in the > H Prod race at all. > > Maybe Dave Patten can address that. > > RD Well they moved them to FP, where I don't think they will do well. They also added the Datsun Roadster to GTL. There it can run any GTL Nissan engine listed, as well as be tube frame. That just makes one's imagination run wild doesn't it. Dave Patten Dunbarton, NH MOG #9 From brianrreynolds at yahoo.com Wed Dec 26 17:40:10 2007 From: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com (Brian Reynolds) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:40:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <206987.3453971198706507107.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> Message-ID: <499429.49638.qm@web62409.mail.re1.yahoo.com> --- andycost at embarqmail.com wrote: > Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few > days. > > Andy Andy, Considering I have 1,452 unread emails in my inbox, most of which is Roadster list mail accumulated since August, maybe a short break is not such a bad thing ;) Merry Christmas fellow Roadsterers, -Brian Toronto Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com From fairlady66 at gmail.com Wed Dec 26 17:54:21 2007 From: fairlady66 at gmail.com (Chris & Christy Breyer) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:54:21 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <499429.49638.qm@web62409.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <206987.3453971198706507107.JavaMail.root@md01.embarq.synacor.com> <499429.49638.qm@web62409.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't know.. let me check.... Yup! I'm here! On Dec 26, 2007 4:40 PM, Brian Reynolds wrote: > --- andycost at embarqmail.com wrote: > > > Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few > > days. > > > > Andy > > > Andy, > > Considering I have 1,452 unread emails in my inbox, most of which is > Roadster list mail accumulated since August, maybe a short break is not > such a bad thing ;) > > Merry Christmas fellow Roadsterers, > -Brian > Toronto > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to > Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fairlady66 at gmail.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters > -- '66 1600 Riverside, CA ------------------------------------------------------ This is my second Fairlady...I'm married to the first one. From gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Wed Dec 26 18:15:36 2007 From: gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com (Jim Gammon) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:15:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <759783.21704.qm@web51107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Here! (Back to lurker mode) Merry Christmas and a better New Year for us all. Jim Gammon NJ Gordon Glasgow wrote: Nobody here but us hermits. ;-) We just had a more hectic Christmas season than usual. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of andycost at embarqmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:02 PM To: datsun-roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few days. Andy You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From jklingman at stny.rr.com Wed Dec 26 18:22:35 2007 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:22:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there? Message-ID: <001201c84826$f64dcc70$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Checking in from Central NY, it is all green and brown with the snow temporarily gone, wishing it was March and then we look at the roadster and have a reason to be happy we have a few months more to work on the car. We envy all you folks with salt free -snow free roads. We get this weather teaser every year, makes the winter seem a little longer. Gloria and John Klingman Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike From walter.peterson at cox.net Wed Dec 26 18:28:45 2007 From: walter.peterson at cox.net (Walter Peterson) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:28:45 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <759783.21704.qm@web51107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <759783.21704.qm@web51107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003901c84827$d3090fd0$791b2f70$@peterson@cox.net> I'm still here lurking. Santa brought me a Magellan GPS so now I can find my own Gas! I'm @ Lat 34D26'41"; Lon 119D50'11" Walt Peterson H20 44's -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Gammon Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 5:16 PM To: Gordon Glasgow; andycost at embarqmail.com; datsun-roadsters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? Here! (Back to lurker mode) Merry Christmas and a better New Year for us all. Jim Gammon NJ Gordon Glasgow wrote: Nobody here but us hermits. ;-) We just had a more hectic Christmas season than usual. Gordon Glasgow Renton, WA -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of andycost at embarqmail.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:02 PM To: datsun-roadsters Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few days. Andy You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters You are subscribed as walter.peterson at cox.net Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From dhyson at charter.net Wed Dec 26 18:34:44 2007 From: dhyson at charter.net (Durf & Sue Hyson) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:34:44 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Goin to O-ree-gone ! Message-ID: <47730134.8070304@charter.net> Hey guys and Gals ! I am looking to pick the brain/brains of anyone on the list who is familiar with the inspections and registration laws in Oregon. I am wrapping up a Datsun to send out there to it's owner and I have some questions on emissions equipment. This was originally a California car with a C.A.R.B. certification and so had a cat. I have questions about re-fitting a cat and whether I can have a header in front of it or if I need to re-fit a cast iron manifold . The car is a 1975 280 Z. it's owner was just transferred to Portland from Charleston S.C. which appears to change everything . thanks in advance for any info people can provide. Durf From dato1500 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 26 18:52:42 2007 From: dato1500 at hotmail.com (Peter Jones) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:52:42 +0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <001201c84826$f64dcc70$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> References: <001201c84826$f64dcc70$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Message-ID: What's snow? It's was 44.2deg C yesterday and looking at a top of 35deg C today. It's going to be a hot summer and lots of time to drive the roadster. Suns comes up at 5:30am and down at 8:00pm Pete Western Australia.> From: jklingman at stny.rr.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:22:35 -0500> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there?> > Checking in from Central NY, it is all green and brown with the snow> temporarily gone, wishing it was March and then we look at the roadster and> have a reason to be happy we have a few months more to work on the car. We> envy all you folks with salt free -snow free roads. We get this weather teaser> every year, makes the winter seem a little longer.> Gloria and John Klingman> Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as dato1500 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2E com%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai% 5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT From daveandlindab at comcast.net Wed Dec 26 19:24:59 2007 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:24:59 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <001f01c8480e$fd8764f0$0202a8c0@D4RK97B1JR> Message-ID: <003401c8482f$b12ae3e0$6600a8c0@chrissy> Paint it EXACTLY the same as the other Roadster, never park them close enough to see both cars at once. For real, the grey sounds nice. Gotta have a red interior especially if it's for her. BTW, you are making me feel bad, I keep saying it's too cold to work on the new one, and you're in Rochester. Then again, I'm stuck in the basment shop building distributors and stuff Dave Brisco ECR 69 2000 68 1600 70 blank canvas ----Original Message----- From: Joe Russo [mailto:jrusso07 at rochester.rr.com] Mark, Sid, Dave...tell me there's a better way... Happy New Year to all! Joe 70 SPL311 (U20) 70 SRL311 71 PL510 (L18 SSS) 72 HLS30 From girault at bellsouth.net Wed Dec 26 19:27:29 2007 From: girault at bellsouth.net (Girault Jones) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:27:29 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there? Message-ID: <002701c84830$07c266b0$6400a8c0@DESKTOP> Yes, we're still here and running good. We delivered all of our Christmas pies and cakes to friends WITH THE TOP DOWN - only in Mississippi ! ! Merry Christmas to all. From daveandlindab at comcast.net Wed Dec 26 19:28:01 2007 From: daveandlindab at comcast.net (dave) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:28:01 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <499429.49638.qm@web62409.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003501c84830$1d5503c0$6600a8c0@chrissy> I went to the Digest version, MUCH easier. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Reynolds [mailto:brianrreynolds at yahoo.com] Andy, Considering I have 1,452 unread emails in my inbox, most of which is Roadster list mail accumulated since August, maybe a short break is not such a bad thing ;) From jover4x4 at aol.com Wed Dec 26 21:04:31 2007 From: jover4x4 at aol.com (jover4x4 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:04:31 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <002701c84830$07c266b0$6400a8c0@DESKTOP> References: <002701c84830$07c266b0$6400a8c0@DESKTOP> Message-ID: <8CA1654B79E2BF4-DE4-411B@FWM-D42.sysops.aol.com> Still here..... in Denver...... with about 8" of snow on the ground that fell Christmas Day.? We only wish we could get a Roadster out.? It will be late March or early April before that happens. John Over -----Original Message----- From: Girault Jones To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 7:27 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there? Yes, we're still here and running good. We delivered all of our Christmas pies and cakes to friends WITH THE TOP DOWN - only in Mississippi ! ! Merry Christmas to all. You are subscribed as jover4x4 at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 26 21:05:28 2007 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:05:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Metal Door plates.... In-Reply-To: <122420071823.24478.476FF912000C76E900005F9E22007636929D0A9B9C0B0E019DC7C0@comcast.net> Message-ID: <132555.52391.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Scott, I've not seen a response to your inquiry, so, I'll give it a try. I believe the items you are talking about are called "kick" and "scuff plates". There are three inner scuffs and one sill kick plate on each door opening. They attach with screws. You may be able to view a picture of them in the parts books on the 311.org site under body parts; body side fitting. I'm looking at figure 74 in a 68 parts book and it shows them. The weatherstripping goes under the bend on the inner scuffs. Where the heck you're going to find new ones, I do not know, but I'm sure someone on the list does. I've attached a few pictures I took of my poor old car and a couple ratty spare pieces of scuff trim. Hope this helps. Patti --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Datsun kick & scuff plate door trim 001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Datsun kick & scuff plate door trim 002.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Datsun scuff plate door trim 005.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Datsun scuff plate door trim 006.jpg] From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Wed Dec 26 21:12:06 2007 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:12:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] Metal Parts Message-ID: <606696.79403.qm@web53502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> List, I realize that my attachments can not be viewed by all. Hopefully, Scott will be able to open them. I just wanted to reopen the topic to see if any other Christmas hermits were awake. :) --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Dec 26 21:31:37 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:31:37 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000d01c84841$61804710$6501a8c0@xp> Snow's the stuff you see (or some of Oz does) in July-August when -WE- get the sunrise at 5am, etc, etc. Not only do we drive on the correct side of the road, our toilet water rotates in the right direction, too! Cheers. A different Pete "but I do have a koala tattoo" -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Jones Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 5:53 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there? What's snow? It's was 44.2deg C yesterday and looking at a top of 35deg C today. It's going to be a hot summer and lots of time to drive the roadster. Suns comes up at 5:30am and down at 8:00pm Pete Western Australia.> From: jklingman at stny.rr.com> To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:22:35 -0500> Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there?> > Checking in from Central NY, it is all green and brown with the snow> temporarily gone, wishing it was March and then we look at the roadster and> have a reason to be happy we have a few months more to work on the car. We> envy all you folks with salt free -snow free roads. We get this weather teaser> every year, makes the winter seem a little longer.> Gloria and John Klingman> Sidney, NY '68 2000 aka Spike> ________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as dato1500 at hotmail.com> > Datsun-roadsters mailing list> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters _________________________________________________________________ It's simple! Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2 E com%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai % 5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From ppeters914 at comcast.net Wed Dec 26 21:34:29 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:34:29 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] FW: G Prod Runoffs coverage In-Reply-To: <3001473.1198716541482.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000e01c84841$c883bcd0$6501a8c0@xp> I'm the wrong guy to ask. Only just starting to learn about racing and I don't have a GPS to find my gas. Gordon, Ronnie, Andy and a few others should be able to offer proper guidance. Pete "still wondering...is it autocross, auto-cross, or auto-x?" -----Original Message----- From: Dewey Hahlbohm [mailto:hahlbohmd at earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 4:49 PM To: Pete Peters Subject: Re: [Roadsters] FW: G Prod Runoffs coverage Pete, I am lost. What type racing are you referring to? I am new to SCCA autocross and know FP as F prepared. I have been interested in following the SCCA runoffs, but do not know the nomenclature of G production, GTL, etc. I am interested in taking up road racing, looking at SCCA time trials or some other introductory way to get involved. Can you point me in the right direction, either organization or website? Thanks, Dewey in Montana -----Original Message----- >From: Pete Peters >Sent: Dec 26, 2007 5:10 PM >To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net >Subject: [Roadsters] FW: G Prod Runoffs coverage > >FYI...... > >-----Original Message----- >From: bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com >[mailto:bluebirds-request at bluebirds.datsun510.com] On Behalf Of David >Patten >Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 1:41 PM >To: Ronnie Day >Cc: 510 >Subject: Re: G Prod Runoffs coverage > > >> if G Prodgoes away, the cars could move up to F or down to H. Don't >> how competitive they'd be in F, but they just were in the hunt in the >> H Prod race at all. >> >> Maybe Dave Patten can address that. >> >> RD > >Well they moved them to FP, where I don't think they will do well. > >They also added the Datsun Roadster to GTL. There it can run any GTL >Nissan engine listed, as well as be tube frame. That just makes one's >imagination run wild doesn't it. > >Dave Patten >Dunbarton, NH >MOG #9 From tminerpcav at aol.com Wed Dec 26 23:52:22 2007 From: tminerpcav at aol.com (tminerpcav at aol.com) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:52:22 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <8CA1654B79E2BF4-DE4-411B@FWM-D42.sysops.aol.com> References: <002701c84830$07c266b0$6400a8c0@DESKTOP> <8CA1654B79E2BF4-DE4-411B@FWM-D42.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CA166C2AA22BEB-EC-4C44@webmail-da15.sysops.aol.com> John, How's that 67.5 2000 coming along? Tim Miner ---- Original Message ---- From: jover4x4 at aol.com To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 8:04 pm Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there? Still here..... in Denver...... with about 8" of snow on the ground that fell Christmas Day.? We only wish we could get a Roadster out.? It will be late March or early April before that happens. John Over -----Original Message----- From: Girault Jones To: Datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 7:27 pm Subject: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there? Yes, we're still here and running good. We delivered all of our Christmas pies and cakes to friends WITH THE TOP DOWN - only in Mississippi ! ! Merry Christmas to all. You are subscribed as jover4x4 at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com You are subscribed as tminerpcav at aol.com Datsun-roadsters mailing list http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters ________________________________________________________________________ Need a free e-mail account? Get one now at Mail.AOL.ca From gkmcc at sbcglobal.net Thu Dec 27 00:20:31 2007 From: gkmcc at sbcglobal.net (Gary McCormick) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:20:31 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? In-Reply-To: <003901c84827$d3090fd0$791b2f70$@peterson@cox.net> References: <759783.21704.qm@web51107.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <003901c84827$d3090fd0$791b2f70$@peterson@cox.net> Message-ID: <4773523F.9010405@sbcglobal.net> N? S? E? W? Walter Peterson wrote: >I'm still here lurking. Santa brought me a Magellan GPS so now I can find >my own Gas! >I'm @ Lat 34D26'41"; Lon 119D50'11" > >Walt Peterson >H20 44's > > >-----Original Message----- >From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net >[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+walter.peterson=cox.net at autox.team.net] On >Behalf Of Jim Gammon >Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 5:16 PM >To: Gordon Glasgow; andycost at embarqmail.com; datsun-roadsters >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? > >Here! > > (Back to lurker mode) > > Merry Christmas and a better New Year for us all. > > Jim Gammon > NJ > > >Gordon Glasgow wrote: > Nobody here but us hermits. ;-) > >We just had a more hectic Christmas season than usual. > >Gordon Glasgow >Renton, WA > >-----Original Message----- >From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net >[mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+gsglasgow=comcast.net at autox.team.net]On >Behalf Of andycost at embarqmail.com >Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 2:02 PM >To: datsun-roadsters >Subject: [Roadsters] Is there anybody out there? > > >Are we all Christmas hermits?B I haven't gotten a message in a few days. > > > >Andy >You are subscribed as gtpjimgammon at yahoo.com > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >You are subscribed as walter.peterson at cox.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters >________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as gkmcc at sbcglobal.net > >Datsun-roadsters mailing list > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From lonestar311 at gmail.com Thu Dec 27 08:10:07 2007 From: lonestar311 at gmail.com (lonestar311 at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 07:10:07 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Is anybody out there? In-Reply-To: References: <001201c84826$f64dcc70$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71>, Message-ID: <47734FCF.6254.2043EBE@lonestar311.gmail.com> On 27 Dec 2007 at 9:52, Peter Jones wrote: > Suns comes up at > 5:30am and down at 8:00pm > > Pete > > Western Australia. You have multiple suns? That's cool, although my sister-in-law lives in Bombala ans she's never mentioned it. -- lonestar (in Oregon with very little sun this time of year) From fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com Thu Dec 27 12:47:31 2007 From: fairlady1964spl310 at yahoo.com (Patti Dwinell) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:47:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Roadsters] $150 Texas Roadster on Ebay Message-ID: <53204.70967.qm@web53507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Did you see this on Ebay? Item # 160192670550.... This car looks very familiar. Patti --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From racery at comcast.net Thu Dec 27 14:36:27 2007 From: racery at comcast.net (racery at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:36:27 +0000 Subject: [Roadsters] SCCA Alphabet soop! Message-ID: <122720072136.14246.47741ADB0007BB3B000037A62207300033979D0A0C0E9D@comcast.net> SCCA really is the Secret car club of America- in Club racing, EP through HP means "production" Now, by production, they mean you have to keep your tub. Most of the rest of the race car is open for some level of modification... depending on what class you run in. To make it worse, there is now a Club racing 'Prepared' category- so you can have autocross prepared or club racing prepared. Why there is no decoder sheet on the front pages of www.scca.org is beyond me, but if you're insanely curious, click the 'club racing' tab, then go to 'cars and rules'- the GCR (general competition regs) are there in all 500+ pages of their glory. And THEY need a decoder ring, too... Toby E- production BMW 2002 in Conference (www.icscc.com) "Pete, I am lost. What type racing are you referring to? I am new to SCCA autocross and know FP as F prepared. I have been interested in following the SCCA runoffs, but do not know the nomenclature of G production, GTL, etc. I am interested in taking up road racing, looking at SCCA time trials or some other introductory way to get involved. Can you point me in the right direction, either organization or website? Thanks, Dewey in Montana " From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Dec 27 19:10:48 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (9laser3 at bright.net) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:10:48 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] R16 in Ohio Message-ID: <20071228021048.RMMW2859.invictus@[192.168.1.32]> Ebay just closed on a R16 engine without tranny in Cleveland, Ohio, .... for only $51! Anybody on the list win? Paul Ohio From 9laser3 at bright.net Thu Dec 27 19:12:55 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (9laser3 at bright.net) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:12:55 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] The OTHER R16 on ebay Message-ID: <20071228021255.RMNI2859.invictus@[192.168.1.32]> Saw another R16 engine with 4 speed tranny with a starting bid of over $700. Why do I get the feeling it won't see any bids? Paul Ohio From heyace at cox.net Fri Dec 28 18:35:00 2007 From: heyace at cox.net (Paul) Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 17:35:00 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Gary Ault Message-ID: <019501c849bb$0744a3b0$71620744@coach> Hey guy's & gals, I'm trying to reach Gary Ault. Gary, my emails are not getting through? Email off-list. Paul(heyace) Sorry for the bandwidth! From bradandgayle at charter.net Sun Dec 30 12:45:03 2007 From: bradandgayle at charter.net (Brad and Gayle Holmes) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:45:03 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! Message-ID: <000901c84b1c$78f0e5c0$9b02a8c0@holmes> My son just sent this to me. Great pics.........can anyone translate? http://ducks-garden.co.jp/SHOP/311-3.html Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL From RWM at RWMann.com Sun Dec 30 12:58:56 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 14:58:56 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! In-Reply-To: <000901c84b1c$78f0e5c0$9b02a8c0@holmes> References: <000901c84b1c$78f0e5c0$9b02a8c0@holmes> Message-ID: <4777F880.5000908@RWMann.com> A roadster with rice is nice... Brad and Gayle Holmes wrote: >My son just sent this to me. Great pics.........can anyone translate? > >http://ducks-garden.co.jp/SHOP/311-3.html From boakes at gmail.com Sun Dec 30 12:59:58 2007 From: boakes at gmail.com (Bill Oakes) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:59:58 -0600 Subject: [Roadsters] Testing wipers Message-ID: <3ad057d60712301159o7c74f9fcq8c93194bf4dd819f@mail.gmail.com> Quick question - is there an easy way to test my wiper motor (and/or other devices) before I put the dash back on? thanks Bill Oakes '68 2000 Solex From nalevine at dcn.org Sun Dec 30 13:06:53 2007 From: nalevine at dcn.org (Neil Levine) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:06:53 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] Roadster Sighting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001c84b1f$855cf3f0$6501a8c0@speedyquadcore> Hi everyone! Happy soon to be new year to all-- I was in the LA area for a few days and while in Culver City going down Duquesne towards Jefferson got a glimpse looking left of an orange(ish) roadster parked at the curb. Anyone on the list? Neil 1966 SPL311-06576 From ppeters914 at comcast.net Sun Dec 30 16:22:05 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 15:22:05 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! In-Reply-To: <000901c84b1c$78f0e5c0$9b02a8c0@holmes> Message-ID: <000001c84b3a$cdc78310$6501a8c0@xp> Not new. Discussed here and 311s.org forums several times since 2004. Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad and Gayle Holmes Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 11:45 AM To: datsun-roadsters: autox.team.net Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! My son just sent this to me. Great pics.........can anyone translate? http://ducks-garden.co.jp/SHOP/311-3.html Brad Holmes SEROC Montgomery, AL From escanlon at wa-net.com Sun Dec 30 20:38:18 2007 From: escanlon at wa-net.com (E Scanlon) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:38:18 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! References: <000001c84b3a$cdc78310$6501a8c0@xp> Message-ID: <003201c84b5e$96fb9be0$0300a8c0@HPW> Interestingly, it's billed as a MAZDA at that website.... E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" > Not new. Discussed here and 311s.org forums several times since 2004. > > Pete > > Behalf Of Brad and Gayle Holmes > Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! > > > My son just sent this to me. Great pics.........can anyone translate? > > http://ducks-garden.co.jp/SHOP/311-3.html > > > Brad Holmes > SEROC From mark at dealermats.com Sun Dec 30 21:08:39 2007 From: mark at dealermats.com (Mark Dent) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:08:39 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! References: <000001c84b3a$cdc78310$6501a8c0@xp> <003201c84b5e$96fb9be0$0300a8c0@HPW> Message-ID: <000601c84b62$d3ab3470$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> It is a Mazda Miata, with a body kit. Front is OK, back is OK but the side shots... uggh. They have 3 on the site now, instead of just the orange one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Scanlon" To: Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! > Interestingly, it's billed as a MAZDA at that website.... > E > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Peters" > > >> Not new. Discussed here and 311s.org forums several times since 2004. >> >> Pete >> > Behalf Of Brad and Gayle Holmes >> Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! >> >> >> My son just sent this to me. Great pics.........can anyone translate? >> >> http://ducks-garden.co.jp/SHOP/311-3.html >> >> >> Brad Holmes >> SEROC > ________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mark at dealermats.com > > Datsun-roadsters mailing list > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/datsun-roadsters From RWM at RWMann.com Mon Dec 31 06:08:53 2007 From: RWM at RWMann.com (RWM (Out of the Office)) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:08:53 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! In-Reply-To: <000601c84b62$d3ab3470$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> References: <000001c84b3a$cdc78310$6501a8c0@xp> <003201c84b5e$96fb9be0$0300a8c0@HPW> <000601c84b62$d3ab3470$0c02a8c0@toshibauser> Message-ID: <4778E9E5.4090906@RWMann.com> Looks like a 3/4 scale Chevy Impala from the side... Mark Dent wrote: >It is a Mazda Miata, with a body kit. Front is OK, back is OK but the side >shots... uggh. They have 3 on the site now, instead of just the orange >one. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "E Scanlon" >To: >Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:38 PM >Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! > > > > >>Interestingly, it's billed as a MAZDA at that website.... >>E >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Pete Peters" >> >> >> >> >>>Not new. Discussed here and 311s.org forums several times since 2004. >>> >>>Pete >>> >>> >>>>Behalf Of Brad and Gayle Holmes >>>> >>>> >>>Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! >>> >>> >>>My son just sent this to me. Great pics.........can anyone translate? >>> >>>http://ducks-garden.co.jp/SHOP/311-3.html >>> >>> >>>Brad Holmes >>>SEROC From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Dec 31 09:31:57 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:31:57 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! In-Reply-To: <003201c84b5e$96fb9be0$0300a8c0@HPW> Message-ID: <000301c84bca$ac6953c0$6501a8c0@xp> Okay, so my mind remembers useless trivia. Here are Japanese-to-English translations from Google: and AltaVista: Engrish anyone, hehehehehe.... Pete -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+ppeters914=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of E Scanlon Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 7:38 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! Interestingly, it's billed as a MAZDA at that website.... E ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Peters" > Not new. Discussed here and 311s.org forums several times since 2004. > > Pete > > Behalf Of Brad and Gayle Holmes > Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! > > > My son just sent this to me. Great pics.........can anyone translate? > > http://ducks-garden.co.jp/SHOP/311-3.html > > > Brad Holmes > SEROC From brianrreynolds at yahoo.com Mon Dec 31 10:16:46 2007 From: brianrreynolds at yahoo.com (Brian Reynolds) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:16:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Roadsters] seat fabric patterns? Message-ID: <339493.3193.qm@web62406.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Happy New Year Roadster fans, I removed the driver's seat from my '69 yesterday for recovering. I had purchased seat bottom fabric from a local Roadster owner and a used backrest portion on Ebay. To my dismay I discovered that neither are the same as mine - 3 different seats equals three different patterns! Mine has a diamond pattern, the seat bottom I bought is flat fabric with little holes, and the backrest has little squares with holes in the middle (or might resemble little four-leaf clovers if looked at a different way) and a line of stitching horizontally across the front side half-way up. Are these different patterns from different years or from different suppliers to the factory? This problem also leads me to wonder how many different patterns exist for '68-'70 - does anyone know? If someone out there in Roadsterland is in need of fabric with the little squares with holes / four leaf clover pattern with a stitch line across the front, I have a complete set including headrests - cheap. All of it is good, but one bottom section needs some panels sewn back together. It would be much cheaper to use my parts to fix up the set you have than buy a repro diamond-pattern set from Dean or someone else. I can send photos. I can trade too. I need a diamond pattern driver's backrest and bottom. -Brian Toronto Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com From jklingman at stny.rr.com Mon Dec 31 10:26:28 2007 From: jklingman at stny.rr.com (John Klingman) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 12:26:28 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] The new 311 Roadster! Message-ID: <000f01c84bd2$4759c520$ba01a8c0@yourhryuc9xa71> Pete, Thanks for the translation link, I really enjoyed it. I don't think I understand anymore than the boxes, like reading Yoda's memoirs. It's the odd bits and facts that appear in this list that make it such a good read. Gloria and John Klingman From ppeters914 at comcast.net Mon Dec 31 11:50:34 2007 From: ppeters914 at comcast.net (Pete Peters) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 10:50:34 -0800 Subject: [Roadsters] OT: World's Smallest Supercharged V8 Message-ID: <000501c84bde$0994aaa0$6501a8c0@xp> From erik.isaksen at gmail.com Mon Dec 31 13:09:43 2007 From: erik.isaksen at gmail.com (Eric A. Isaacson) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:09:43 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Tall Windshield Factory Hardtop Message-ID: <001d01c84be9$16035740$6401a8c0@zeke> Happy New Year! After searching through 10+ years of Roadster list emails, one may only conclude that the Factory Hardtops are extremely rare and nearly impossible to obtain. Nevertheless, I'd like to buy one. It also appears that there have been some effort to reproduce the Factory Hardtops as well. A reproduction in the factory style would be fantastic. What is the latest hardtop news...anyone? Thank you, Eric A. Isaacson Fort Wayne, IN 1968 SPL311 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1204 - Release Date: 12/31/2007 12:20 PM From 9laser3 at bright.net Mon Dec 31 14:29:35 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:29:35 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Tall Windshield Factory Hardtop In-Reply-To: <001d01c84be9$16035740$6401a8c0@zeke> References: <001d01c84be9$16035740$6401a8c0@zeke> Message-ID: <000b01c84bf4$3f876380$be962a80$@net> The closest I've ever seen to a factory hardtop is now being produced by Smooth Line in PA. Teddy in Pittsburgh has one of the Parrish hardtops on his 2000. Smooth Line bought out Parrish and is now using their old mold. And I think Steve up in Wisconsin has a new Smooth Line top. Google smooth Line and I think, under Datsun, they have photos of teddy's 2000. Paul Ohio -----Original Message----- From: datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net [mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces+9laser3=bright.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eric A. Isaacson Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 3:10 PM To: datsun-roadsters at autox.team.net Cc: les at classicdatsun.com Subject: [Roadsters] Tall Windshield Factory Hardtop Happy New Year! After searching through 10+ years of Roadster list emails, one may only conclude that the Factory Hardtops are extremely rare and nearly impossible to obtain. Nevertheless, I'd like to buy one. It also appears that there have been some effort to reproduce the Factory Hardtops as well. A reproduction in the factory style would be fantastic. What is the latest hardtop news...anyone? Thank you, Eric A. Isaacson Fort Wayne, IN 1968 SPL311 From 9laser3 at bright.net Mon Dec 31 14:48:16 2007 From: 9laser3 at bright.net (Paul) Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:48:16 -0500 Subject: [Roadsters] Teddy's hardtop? Message-ID: <000c01c84bf6$dbb96ee0$932c4ca0$@net> Okay, it appears that Smooth Line and Teddy have parted ways and the photo of a roadster with their hard top on it looks terrible. (Apologies to the owner, I'm sure it's the photo, not your car!) And the only other photo of Teddy's 2000 on line is at 311.org, but it isn't wearing the Parrish top in that photo. So does anybody know where a good photo of a Parrish or SmoothLine top is? Paul Ohio