From ds122945 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 11 02:46:20 2009 From: ds122945 at yahoo.com (Dennis Stevenson) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PreWar] help with my humber Message-ID: <391897.59142.qm@web63803.mail.re1.yahoo.com> I have purched a 1952 Humber Super Snipe Touring Limousine . The Limo. has a RAF & SS# under the hood . It also has a Ministry Of Supply W.V.3. Contract # 6 VEH.11174.CCB Plate mounted under the hood on the firewall ! I have not been able to find original importer or history of my car but I OWN IT for better or worse.!!! Its got to be cheeper to fix up than my last divorce !!! I plan on restoring my limo. but may make a resto rod if its just a limo.with no historical value . AIR COND IS SURE NICE HERE IN FLORIDA!!! It is not running and has been sitting in a barn for years . It needs a right rear fender and rear bumber but they can be fixed if no parts are available. If any one has any idea where I can get any info on my limo Please let me know !!! Thank You, Dennis From dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com Sun Oct 11 07:43:25 2009 From: dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com (Dennis Nelson) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:43:25 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] help with my humber In-Reply-To: <391897.59142.qm@web63803.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <391897.59142.qm@web63803.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <85d402670910110643o6a2033c5rdce73167c4490842@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Dennis, I'm afraid that I don't know a thing about Humbers except they were the luxury cars of the era, so what I'm replying for is that yours is the first email I have received on this mailing list since signing up! I have a 1939 MG TA that I have been doing a complete frame off, total rebuild, on forever and that is why I signed up for the pre-war list. Good to hear from someone! Anyway, good luck with the Humber! Cheers from Manassas, Virginia. Dennis Nelson 1939 MG TA 2003 BRA CX-3 On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Dennis Stevenson wrote: > I have purched a 1952 Humber Super Snipe Touring Limousine . The Limo. has > a > RAF & SS# under the hood . It also has a Ministry Of Supply W.V.3. > Contract # > 6 VEH.11174.CCB Plate mounted under the hood on the firewall ! I have not > been > able to find original importer or history of my car but I OWN IT for better > or > worse.!!! Its got to be cheeper to fix up than my last divorce !!! I > plan > on restoring my limo. but may make a resto rod if its just a limo.with no > historical value . AIR COND IS SURE NICE HERE IN FLORIDA!!! It is not > running > and has been sitting in a barn for years . It needs a right rear fender and > rear bumber but they can be fixed if no parts are available. If any one > has > any idea where I can get any info on my limo Please let me know !!! > Thank You, Dennis > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com From Bill5600 at aol.com Sun Oct 11 08:16:26 2009 From: Bill5600 at aol.com (Bill5600 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:16:26 EDT Subject: [PreWar] help with my humber Message-ID: I haven't seen anything on this list in a year or two. Bill Alexander 3 Rileys In a message dated 10/11/2009 9:08:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com writes: Hi, Dennis, I'm afraid that I don't know a thing about Humbers except they were the luxury cars of the era, so what I'm replying for is that yours is the first email I have received on this mailing list since signing up! I have a 1939 MG TA that I have been doing a complete frame off, total rebuild, on forever and that is why I signed up for the pre-war list. Good to hear from someone! Anyway, good luck with the Humber! Cheers from Manassas, Virginia. Dennis Nelson 1939 MG TA 2003 BRA CX-3 On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Dennis Stevenson wrote: > I have purched a 1952 Humber Super Snipe Touring Limousine . The Limo. has > a > RAF & SS# under the hood . It also has a Ministry Of Supply W.V.3. > Contract # > 6 VEH.11174.CCB Plate mounted under the hood on the firewall ! I have not > been > able to find original importer or history of my car but I OWN IT for better > or > worse.!!! Its got to be cheeper to fix up than my last divorce !!! I > plan > on restoring my limo. but may make a resto rod if its just a limo.with no > historical value . AIR COND IS SURE NICE HERE IN FLORIDA!!! It is not > running > and has been sitting in a barn for years . It needs a right rear fender and > rear bumber but they can be fixed if no parts are available. If any one > has > any idea where I can get any info on my limo Please let me know !!! > Thank You, Dennis > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as bill5600 at aol.com From dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com Sun Oct 11 08:24:47 2009 From: dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com (Dennis Nelson) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:24:47 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] help with my humber In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85d402670910110724g6183590enb78ffab114bdb992@mail.gmail.com> Well, it seems I am not alone then. Oh, well. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:16 AM, wrote: > I haven't seen anything on this list in a year or two. > > Bill Alexander > > 3 Rileys > > In a message dated 10/11/2009 9:08:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com writes: > > Hi, Dennis, > I'm afraid that I don't know a thing about Humbers except they were the > luxury cars of the era, so what I'm replying for is that yours is the first > email I have received on this mailing list since signing up! I have a > 1939 > MG TA that I have been doing a complete frame off, total rebuild, on > forever > and that is why I signed up for the pre-war list. Good to hear from > someone! Anyway, good luck with the Humber! Cheers from Manassas, > Virginia. > > Dennis Nelson > 1939 MG TA > 2003 BRA CX-3 > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Dennis Stevenson >wrote: > > > I have purched a 1952 Humber Super Snipe Touring Limousine . The Limo. > has > > a > > RAF & SS# under the hood . It also has a Ministry Of Supply W.V.3. > > Contract # > > 6 VEH.11174.CCB Plate mounted under the hood on the firewall ! I have not > > been > > able to find original importer or history of my car but I OWN IT for > better > > or > > worse.!!! Its got to be cheeper to fix up than my last divorce !!! I > > plan > > on restoring my limo. but may make a resto rod if its just a limo.with > no > > historical value . AIR COND IS SURE NICE HERE IN FLORIDA!!! It is not > > running > > and has been sitting in a barn for years . It needs a right rear fender > and > > rear bumber but they can be fixed if no parts are available. If any one > > has > > any idea where I can get any info on my limo Please let me know !!! > > Thank You, Dennis > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > > > You are subscribed as dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as bill5600 at aol.com From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net Sun Oct 11 09:03:11 2009 From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:03:11 -0500 Subject: [PreWar] help with my humber In-Reply-To: <85d402670910110724g6183590enb78ffab114bdb992@mail.gmail.com> References: <85d402670910110724g6183590enb78ffab114bdb992@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8AEA631B-1B74-46DC-86EA-108F2B2BCA97@sbcglobal.net> I signed up for the list also because I'm restoring a 39 wide body MG TA. I think these are the first emails I've received. Did you do an internet search? A quick internet search for "Humber parts" reveals a lot including a trading site and car club" http://www.humber.org.uk/index.htm On Oct 11, 2009, at 9:24 AM, Dennis Nelson wrote: > Well, it seems I am not alone then. Oh, well. > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:16 AM, wrote: > >> I haven't seen anything on this list in a year or two. >> >> Bill Alexander >> >> 3 Rileys >> >> In a message dated 10/11/2009 9:08:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >> dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com writes: >> >> Hi, Dennis, >> I'm afraid that I don't know a thing about Humbers except they were >> the >> luxury cars of the era, so what I'm replying for is that yours is >> the first >> email I have received on this mailing list since signing up! I >> have a >> 1939 >> MG TA that I have been doing a complete frame off, total rebuild, on >> forever >> and that is why I signed up for the pre-war list. Good to hear from >> someone! Anyway, good luck with the Humber! Cheers from Manassas, >> Virginia. >> >> Dennis Nelson >> 1939 MG TA >> 2003 BRA CX-3 >> >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Dennis Stevenson >> wrote: >> >>> I have purched a 1952 Humber Super Snipe Touring Limousine . The >>> Limo. >> has >>> a >>> RAF & SS# under the hood . It also has a Ministry Of Supply W.V.3. >>> Contract # >>> 6 VEH.11174.CCB Plate mounted under the hood on the firewall ! I >>> have not >>> been >>> able to find original importer or history of my car but I OWN IT for >> better >>> or >>> worse.!!! Its got to be cheeper to fix up than my last >>> divorce !!! I >>> plan >>> on restoring my limo. but may make a resto rod if its just a >>> limo.with >> no >>> historical value . AIR COND IS SURE NICE HERE IN FLORIDA!!! It is >>> not >>> running >>> and has been sitting in a barn for years . It needs a right rear >>> fender >> and >>> rear bumber but they can be fixed if no parts are available. If >>> any one >>> has >>> any idea where I can get any info on my limo Please let me know !!! >>> Thank You, Dennis >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war >>> >>> You are subscribed as dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war >> >> You are subscribed as bill5600 at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as duvallcom at sbcglobal.net From johno8 at aol.com Sun Oct 11 09:39:14 2009 From: johno8 at aol.com (johno8 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:39:14 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] Humber In-Reply-To: <391897.59142.qm@web63803.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <391897.59142.qm@web63803.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CC18A01F089730-5F6C-19D9B@webmail-m086.sysops.aol.com> Congratulations Dennis! Growing up in London our neighbour had an early 50s Super Snipe Limo.? Nice!? Surely A/C cannot be original??? Where in Florida are you? Please, do NOT make it into a rod! You should join this club, they will help you:? http://www.humber.org.uk/ClubInfo.htm John Miami, FL 1925 & 1937 Alvis -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Stevenson To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Oct 11, 2009 4:46 am Subject: [PreWar] help with my humber I have purched a 1952 Humber Super Snipe Touring Limousine . The Limo. has a RAF & SS# under the hood . It also has a Ministry Of Supply W.V.3. Contract # 6 VEH.11174.CCB Plate mounted under the hood on the firewall ! I have not been able to find original importer or history of my car but I OWN IT for better or worse.!!! Its got to be cheeper to fix up than my last divorce !!! I plan on restoring my limo. but may make a resto rod if its just a limo.with no historical value . AIR COND IS SURE NICE HERE IN FLORIDA!!! It is not running and has been sitting in a barn for years . It needs a right rear fender and rear bumber but they can be fixed if no parts are available. If any one has any idea where I can get any info on my limo Please let me know !!! Thank You, Dennis British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as johno8 at aol.com From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Sun Oct 11 09:53:04 2009 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [PreWar] Help with my Humber Message-ID: <22119767.1255276384754.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Dear Listers and Dennis, Dennis Stevenson wrote the following message about a car that he just purchased. It is a Humber Limo that appears to have a history with the Royal Air Force. He knows little about it and needs help. These are Rootes Cars (Hillman, Singer, Sunbeam, Talbot, and Humber) that was bought out by Chrysler in the mid-1960s There is a Humber Blog: http://www.allworldauto.com/blogs/category/auto-manufacturers/humber/ A brief history can be found at: http://www.allpar.com/cars/adopted/rootes.html 1952 was a the last year for the sidevalve six that was replaced with an OHV engine that went into these cars for years. We had a very rare Humber estate (woody station wagon)show up at the Palo Alto British car meet built on a Limo chassis and the owner said that he was able to get most parts out of the UK. Check our the British classic car mags like Classic Cars (http://www.classiccarsmagazine.co.uk/contact.php) and Practical Classics (http://www.ewa1.com/mghpc.html) for clubs and parts suppliers. This is a lovely car that would have much more value and interest in the UK or with a military vehicle collector. This should be considered before making a "resto-rod" - Though, fitting an American six and automatic without cutting(and saving the original running gear) and restoring the rest would be another way to go. Remember, restoration is usually easier and will make the outcome more valuable. Can anyone else help Dennis... Best, Rick Feibusch British Car Network Venice Beach, California -----Forwarded Message----- From: Dennis Stevenson Sent: Oct 11, 2009 1:46 AM To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: [PreWar] help with my humber I have purched a 1952 Humber Super Snipe Touring Limousine . The Limo. has an RAF & SS# under the hood . It also has a Ministry Of Supply W.V.3. Contract #6 VEH.11174.CCB Plate mounted under the hood on the firewall ! I have not been able to find original importer or history of my car but I OWN IT for better or worse.!!! Its got to be cheaper to fix up than my last divorce !!! I plan on restoring my limo but may make a resto rod if its just a limo.with no historical value. AIR COND IS SURE NICE HERE IN FLORIDA!!! It is not running and has been sitting in a barn for years. It needs a right rear fender and rear bumber but they can be fixed if no parts are available. If any one has any idea where I can get any info on my limo Please let me know !!! Thank You, Dennis From dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk Sun Oct 11 13:05:09 2009 From: dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk (DavidorLinda) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:05:09 +0100 Subject: [PreWar] help with my humber In-Reply-To: <391897.59142.qm@web63803.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <391897.59142.qm@web63803.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AD22C65.3000405@ukonline.co.uk> Dennis, Hi from England It sounds like your car could have a real interesting history. Archive information for Rootes group cars can be found herehttp://www.rootesarchivecentre.org/ Is your car a Pullman like these http://www.humbercarmuseum.co.uk/MarshallsCarHire.html Please don't do anything hasty to what is almost certainly a very rare vehicle and keep the list updated with any info you odtain best wishes David Dennis Stevenson wrote: > I have purched a 1952 Humber Super Snipe Touring Limousine . The Limo. has a > RAF & SS# under the hood . It also has a Ministry Of Supply W.V.3. Contract # > 6 VEH.11174.CCB Plate mounted under the hood on the firewall ! I have not been > able to find original importer or history of my car but I OWN IT for better or > worse.!!! Its got to be cheeper to fix up than my last divorce !!! I plan > on restoring my limo. but may make a resto rod if its just a limo.with no > historical value . AIR COND IS SURE NICE HERE IN FLORIDA!!! It is not running > and has been sitting in a barn for years . It needs a right rear fender and > rear bumber but they can be fixed if no parts are available. If any one has > any idea where I can get any info on my limo Please let me know !!! > Thank You, Dennis > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk From djaust31 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 11 14:45:19 2009 From: djaust31 at yahoo.com (David Johnston) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 13:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PreWar] (no subject) Message-ID: <24456.41253.qm@web45909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> wanted sources info parts websites mail lists for 1931 austin 12/6 harley deluxe saloon orphaned in usa.thanks djaust31 at yahoo.com From peter.noonan at xtra.co.nz Sun Oct 11 20:31:08 2009 From: peter.noonan at xtra.co.nz (Peter Noonan) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:31:08 +1300 Subject: [PreWar] help with my humber References: <391897.59142.qm@web63803.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0A7F439D971A45B79BC9EA1BC72C0A31@BetaAMD1600> I'll identify your Humber if you post the chassis # or email me a small picture please. Usually it's on a brass or aluminium plate on the bulkhead, but if not, you'll have to clean and scrape around the steering box on the chassis rail. You'll be looking for a 7 digit number, might have A prefix and more letters after. Limousine implies a glass division behind the front seats, otherwise it's a saloon or sedan in USA speak. Best of luck Peter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Stevenson" To: Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: [PreWar] help with my humber >I have purched a 1952 Humber Super Snipe Touring Limousine . The Limo. has >a > RAF & SS# under the hood . It also has a Ministry Of Supply W.V.3. > Contract # > 6 VEH.11174.CCB Plate mounted under the hood on the firewall ! I have not > been > able to find original importer or history of my car but I OWN IT for > better or > worse.!!! Its got to be cheeper to fix up than my last divorce !!! I > plan > on restoring my limo. but may make a resto rod if its just a limo.with no > historical value . AIR COND IS SURE NICE HERE IN FLORIDA!!! It is not > running > and has been sitting in a barn for years . It needs a right rear fender > and > rear bumber but they can be fixed if no parts are available. If any one > has > any idea where I can get any info on my limo Please let me know !!! > Thank You, Dennis > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as peter.noonan at xtra.co.nz From hb10001 at admin.cam.ac.uk Mon Oct 12 01:58:31 2009 From: hb10001 at admin.cam.ac.uk (Hugh Barnes) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:58:31 +0100 Subject: [PreWar] FW: (no subject) Message-ID: Hello David.. - you probably would be best to start your searches here.. http://www.vintage-austin.co.uk/ All the best! Hugh -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Johnston Sent: 11 October 2009 21:45 To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: [PreWar] (no subject) wanted sources info parts websites mail lists for 1931 austin 12/6 harley deluxe saloon orphaned in usa.thanks djaust31 at yahoo.com British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as hb10001 at admin.cam.ac.uk From ds122945 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 12 18:55:12 2009 From: ds122945 at yahoo.com (Dennis Stevenson) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber Message-ID: <654612.36224.qm@web63807.mail.re1.yahoo.com> ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Dennis Stevenson To: peter.noonan at xtra.co.nz Sent: Sun, October 11, 2009 10:50:51 PM Subject: Fw: help with my humber ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Dennis Stevenson To: dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk Sent: Sun, October 11, 2009 9:28:19 PM Subject: help with my humber David. nice to here from you! My Limo is not a Pullman as far as I can tell.. The body looks the same but I think it is a little shorter like the Sollon with a power window in the back of the front seat.. A pullman has jump seats my Limo does not .. On the SR plate it states Touring Limo!!! I have Pix of several autos and basic specks ( eng. trans. wheel base . etc ) but no mention of Touring Limo. in any info I have found !! I guess this limo being a military order it may be limited production??? I got this Limo from my GREAT UNCLE"S EX. BROTHER N LAW.. He bought a farm years ago the Limo was in a barn and came with the farm.. He is 89 years old and resold the farm for BIG BIG BUCKS and had no use for the Limo.. My Great Uncle called me to move it as I drive for a towing co. He asked if I could sell it or if I wanted it.. I bought it not even knowing what it was except a rt hand dr four door car.. I have spent hours on the Net but no luck on history, not looking in the right places I guess..Maby some body with a Brit. millitary background would know where to start??! What if Churchill or Ike used this Limo. Should be a log book on Mill Limo"s somewhere.. May have been a Embassy Limo. used in USA.? I want to restor it or make a driver out of it if it is not a Historical Limo... The Odom only shows 8,081 mi.or klm don"t remember whitch.. If you know where to start please let me know Thank You , DennisChassis # A8007331HLO From dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk Tue Oct 13 14:24:09 2009 From: dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk (DavidorLinda) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:24:09 +0100 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber In-Reply-To: <654612.36224.qm@web63807.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <654612.36224.qm@web63807.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> HI Dennis Another potential source of info is the Coventry Transport Museum http://www.transport-museum.com/contact/ good luck! David Dennis Stevenson wrote: > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Dennis Stevenson > To: peter.noonan at xtra.co.nz > Sent: Sun, October 11, 2009 10:50:51 PM > Subject: > Fw: help with my humber > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Dennis > Stevenson > To: dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk > Sent: Sun, > October 11, 2009 9:28:19 PM > Subject: help with my humber > > > David. nice to here > from you! My Limo is not a Pullman as far as I can tell.. The body looks the > same but I think it is a little shorter like the Sollon with a power window in > the back of the front seat.. A pullman has jump seats my Limo does not .. > On the SR plate it states Touring Limo!!! I have Pix of several autos and > basic specks ( eng. trans. wheel base . etc ) but no mention of Touring Limo. > in any info I have found !! I guess this limo being a military order it may > be limited production??? I got this Limo from my GREAT UNCLE"S EX. BROTHER N > LAW.. He bought a farm years ago the Limo was in a barn and came with the > farm.. He is 89 years old and resold the farm for BIG BIG BUCKS and had no use > for the Limo.. My Great Uncle called me to move it as I drive for a towing co. > He asked if I could sell it or if I wanted it.. I bought it not even knowing > what it was except a rt hand dr four door car.. I have spent hours on the Net > but no luck on history, not looking in the right places I guess..Maby some > body with a Brit. millitary background would know where to start??! What if > Churchill or Ike used this Limo. Should be a log book on Mill Limo"s > somewhere.. May have been a Embassy Limo. used in USA.? I want to restor it > or make a driver out of it if it is not a Historical Limo... The Odom only > shows 8,081 mi.or klm don"t remember whitch.. If you know where to start > please let me know Thank You , DennisChassis # A8007331HLO > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk From talbotracer at aol.com Wed Oct 14 01:05:43 2009 From: talbotracer at aol.com (talbotracer at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 03:05:43 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber In-Reply-To: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> Message-ID: <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> PLEASE TAKE ME OF THIS LIST HI Dennis Another potential source of info is the Coventry Transport Museum http://www.transport-museum.com/contact/ good luck! David Dennis Stevenson wrote: > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Dennis Stevenson > To: peter.noonan at xtra.co.nz > Sent: Sun, October 11, 2009 10:50:51 PM > Subject: > Fw: help with my humber > > > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > From: Dennis > Stevenson > To: dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk > Sent: Sun, > October 11, 2009 9:28:19 PM > Subject: help with my humber > > > David. nice to here > from you! My Limo is not a Pullman as far as I can tell.. The body looks the > same but I think it is a little shorter like the Sollon with a power window in > the back of the front seat.. A pullman has jump seats my Limo does not .. > On the SR plate it states Touring Limo!!! I have Pix of several autos and > basic specks ( eng. trans. wheel base . etc ) but no mention of Touring Limo. > in any info I have found !! I guess this limo being a military order it may > be limited production??? I got this Limo from my GREAT UNCLE"S EX. BROTHER N > LAW.. He bought a farm years ago the Limo was in a barn and came with the > farm.. He is 89 years old and resold the farm for BIG BIG BUCKS and had no use > for the Limo.. My Great Uncle called me to move it as I drive for a towing co. > He asked if I could sell it or if I wanted it.. I bought it not even knowing > what it was except a rt hand dr four door car.. I have spent hours on the Net > but no luck on history, not looking in the right places I guess..Maby some > body with a Brit. millitary background would know where to start??! What if > Churchill or Ike used this Limo. Should be a log book on Mill Limo"s > somewhere.. May have been a Embassy Limo. used in USA.? I want to restor it > or make a driver out of it if it is not a Historical Limo... The Odom only > shows 8,081 mi.or klm don"t remember whitch.. If you know where to start > please let me know Thank You , DennisChassis # A8007331HLO > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as talbotracer at aol.com From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 14 04:47:50 2009 From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:47:50 -0500 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber In-Reply-To: <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net> You don't post to the group to be removed, you send a message to the automated system. The instructions came when you signed up be they are available here..... http://www.team.net/prewar/prewar-list.html On Oct 14, 2009, at 2:05 AM, talbotracer at aol.com wrote: > PLEASE TAKE ME OF THIS LIST > > HI Dennis > > Another potential source of info is the Coventry Transport Museum > http://www.transport-museum.com/contact/ > > good luck! > > David > > > Dennis Stevenson wrote: >> ----- Forwarded Message ---- >> From: Dennis Stevenson >> To: peter.noonan at xtra.co.nz >> Sent: Sun, October 11, 2009 10:50:51 PM >> Subject: >> Fw: help with my humber >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ---- >> From: Dennis >> Stevenson >> To: dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk >> Sent: Sun, >> October 11, 2009 9:28:19 PM >> Subject: help with my humber >> >> >> David. nice to here >> from you! My Limo is not a Pullman as far as I can tell.. The body > looks the >> same but I think it is a little shorter like the Sollon with a power > window in >> the back of the front seat.. A pullman has jump seats my Limo does > not .. >> On the SR plate it states Touring Limo!!! I have Pix of several > autos and >> basic specks ( eng. trans. wheel base . etc ) but no mention of > Touring Limo. >> in any info I have found !! I guess this limo being a military order > it may >> be limited production??? I got this Limo from my GREAT UNCLE"S EX. > BROTHER N >> LAW.. He bought a farm years ago the Limo was in a barn and came > with the >> farm.. He is 89 years old and resold the farm for BIG BIG BUCKS and > had no use >> for the Limo.. My Great Uncle called me to move it as I drive for a > towing co. >> He asked if I could sell it or if I wanted it.. I bought it not even > knowing >> what it was except a rt hand dr four door car.. I have spent hours on > the Net >> but no luck on history, not looking in the right places I > guess..Maby some >> body with a Brit. millitary background would know where to start??! > What if >> Churchill or Ike used this Limo. Should be a log book on Mill Limo"s >> somewhere.. May have been a Embassy Limo. used in USA.? I want to > restor it >> or make a driver out of it if it is not a Historical Limo... The > Odom only >> shows 8,081 mi.or klm don"t remember whitch.. If you know where to > start >> please let me know Thank You , DennisChassis # A8007331HLO >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war >> >> You are subscribed as dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as talbotracer at aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as duvallcom at sbcglobal.net From rwg1 at cornell.edu Wed Oct 14 08:23:25 2009 From: rwg1 at cornell.edu (Roger W. Garnett) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:23:25 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber In-Reply-To: <775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> <775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu> Or you can use the link at the bottom of every list message for mailman web interface, the new system this list was moved to last month. (The other SOL page lists the old system) rg >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war ------- You don't post to the group to be removed, you send a message to the automated system. The instructions came when you signed up be they are available here..... http://www.team.net/prewar/prewar-list.html From mikey at b2systems.com Wed Oct 14 09:25:46 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 08:25:46 -0700 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber In-Reply-To: <100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> <775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net> <100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu> Message-ID: <1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser> :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( I miss the traffic on this list. mike From mgleckstein at monmouth.com Wed Oct 14 12:58:15 2009 From: mgleckstein at monmouth.com (MG Leckstein) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:58:15 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: <1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> <775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net> <100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu> <1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking for a "on the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item made of Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am afraid the traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. Mike -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike rambour Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( I miss the traffic on this list. mike British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com From dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk Wed Oct 14 14:16:16 2009 From: dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk (DavidorLinda) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:16:16 +0100 Subject: [PreWar] help with M Type] Message-ID: <4AD63190.5020501@ukonline.co.uk> Mike you could try a request to http://www.theelectricalpartscompany.com/index.htm Their knowledge on Lucas is unbeatable David -- OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking for a "on the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item made of Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am afraid the traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. Mike -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike rambour Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( I miss the traffic on this list. mike British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk From eabb at loc.gov Wed Oct 14 15:07:19 2009 From: eabb at loc.gov (Eugene D Abbondelo) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:07:19 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: <001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> <775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net> <100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu> <1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser> <001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> Message-ID: <4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> Mike: I guess you've tried Barry Walker, Gregory's, et al. Dash stuff seems to be very hard to find for pre-war cars. I spent 3 years looking for the correct horn push for the steering wheel on my 35' Singer LeMans and finally found recently on UKEbay. Now, I need to look into rebuilding my engine--anyone on the list familiar with white metal bearings ("babbitt") and andy recommendations for a shop that knows how to do this?? Gene >>> "MG Leckstein" 10/14/2009 2:58 PM >>> OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking for a "on the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item made of Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am afraid the traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. Mike -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike rambour Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( I miss the traffic on this list. mike British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as eabb at loc.gov From mgleckstein at monmouth.com Wed Oct 14 15:35:13 2009 From: mgleckstein at monmouth.com (MG Leckstein) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:35:13 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] help with M Type] In-Reply-To: <4AD63190.5020501@ukonline.co.uk> References: <4AD63190.5020501@ukonline.co.uk> Message-ID: <000001ca4d16$36a4a6e0$a3edf4a0$@com> Glad to start chatter. Thanks for the leads, but I am afraid I tried all the "usual suspects" I will keep looking and hope if anyone sees one, they would contact me. By the way, the fuse cover may not be Lucas but instead be Rotax. Lucas bought Rotax before 1930. I had my M Type at the last two NEMGT Register's GOFs. The car is pictured on the back of the Sacred Octagon (August Issue) I am standing next to the car, a friend ,Paul Allen is behind the wheel Maybe we can talk about our prewars, I am only somewhat familiar with Pre War MGs. I have a 1934 PA as well Mike -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of DavidorLinda Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:16 PM To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: [PreWar] help with M Type] Mike you could try a request to http://www.theelectricalpartscompany.com/index.htm Their knowledge on Lucas is unbeatable David -- OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking for a "on the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item made of Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am afraid the traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. Mike -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike rambour Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( I miss the traffic on this list. mike British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 14 16:11:31 2009 From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:11:31 -0500 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: <4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> <775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net> <100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu> <1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser> <001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> <4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> Message-ID: <9A60968E-0F8F-48AE-A78E-A928E52AF9ED@sbcglobal.net> Gene, poured bearings are still used in trucks and large engines so you can call around and find a machine shop that might be able to do it. A few years ago this place still did it. A number of shops advertise in Hemmings. Effingham Regrinding Inc, 217-342-4186, Effingham, IL. On Oct 14, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Eugene D Abbondelo wrote: > Mike: > > I guess you've tried Barry Walker, Gregory's, et al. Dash stuff > seems to be > very hard to find for pre-war cars. I spent 3 years looking for the > correct > horn push for the steering wheel on my 35' Singer LeMans and finally > found > recently on UKEbay. > > Now, I need to look into rebuilding my engine--anyone on the list > familiar > with white metal bearings ("babbitt") and andy recommendations for a > shop that > knows how to do this?? > > Gene > > > >>>> "MG Leckstein" 10/14/2009 2:58 PM >>> > OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking > for a "on > the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item > made of > Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am > afraid the > traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike > rambour > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM > To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber > > :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most > traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( > > I miss the traffic on this list. > > mike > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as eabb at loc.gov > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as duvallcom at sbcglobal.net From gzimmermann at myfairpoint.net Wed Oct 14 16:18:03 2009 From: gzimmermann at myfairpoint.net (Gregor Zimmermann) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:18:03 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk><8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com><775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net><100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu><1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser><001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> <4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> Message-ID: Gene, I can recommend Zig Billus at The Babbitt Pot. He is in Fort Edward, NY 518-747-4277 He is currently working on my 32' Alvis motor. Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene D Abbondelo" To: ; "'mike rambour'" ; "MG Leckstein" Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type > Mike: > > I guess you've tried Barry Walker, Gregory's, et al. Dash stuff seems to > be > very hard to find for pre-war cars. I spent 3 years looking for the > correct > horn push for the steering wheel on my 35' Singer LeMans and finally found > recently on UKEbay. > > Now, I need to look into rebuilding my engine--anyone on the list familiar > with white metal bearings ("babbitt") and andy recommendations for a shop > that > knows how to do this?? > > Gene > > > >>>> "MG Leckstein" 10/14/2009 2:58 PM >>> > OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking for a > "on > the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item made of > Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am afraid > the > traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike > rambour > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM > To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber > > :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most > traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( > > I miss the traffic on this list. > > mike > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as eabb at loc.gov > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as gzimmermann at myfairpoint.net From Bill5600 at aol.com Wed Oct 14 16:51:08 2009 From: Bill5600 at aol.com (Bill5600 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:51:08 EDT Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type Message-ID: Do you have a picture of what you need? Is it the same as the ones that go on the bulkhead? Bill Alexander In a message dated 10/14/2009 2:43:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mgleckstein at monmouth.com writes: OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking for a "on the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item made of Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am afraid the traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. Mike -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike rambour Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( I miss the traffic on this list. mike British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as bill5600 at aol.com From dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com Wed Oct 14 18:17:45 2009 From: dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com (Dennis Nelson) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:17:45 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: <9A60968E-0F8F-48AE-A78E-A928E52AF9ED@sbcglobal.net> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> <775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net> <100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu> <1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser> <001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> <4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> <9A60968E-0F8F-48AE-A78E-A928E52AF9ED@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <85d402670910141717y56903817l62d00deefb351eed@mail.gmail.com> Effingham Regrinding is where I had my TA done. They did a marvelous job casting the bearings, line boring the block and big ends. They took the crank down, as I recall .005" or so, and also overbored it by .010". Four new pistons were made for it by The Egge Machine Shop, and I recommend them highly also. My home state is Illinois so I just drove the block out to them and picked it up the next time out. Good luck! Dennis Nelson On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Mike Duvall wrote: > Gene, poured bearings are still used in trucks and large engines so you can > call around and find a machine shop that might be able to do it. A few > years ago this place still did it. A number of shops advertise in Hemmings. > > Effingham Regrinding Inc, 217-342-4186, Effingham, IL. > > > > > On Oct 14, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Eugene D Abbondelo wrote: > > Mike: >> >> I guess you've tried Barry Walker, Gregory's, et al. Dash stuff seems to >> be >> very hard to find for pre-war cars. I spent 3 years looking for the >> correct >> horn push for the steering wheel on my 35' Singer LeMans and finally found >> recently on UKEbay. >> >> Now, I need to look into rebuilding my engine--anyone on the list familiar >> with white metal bearings ("babbitt") and andy recommendations for a shop >> that >> knows how to do this?? >> >> Gene >> >> >> >> "MG Leckstein" 10/14/2009 2:58 PM >>> >>>>> >>>> OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking for a >> "on >> the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item made of >> Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am afraid >> the >> traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike >> rambour >> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM >> To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber >> >> :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most >> traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( >> >> I miss the traffic on this list. >> >> mike >> British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war >> >> You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com >> British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war >> >> You are subscribed as eabb at loc.gov >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war >> >> You are subscribed as duvallcom at sbcglobal.net >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as dennis.nelson6 at gmail.com From TATERRY at aol.com Wed Oct 14 18:25:48 2009 From: TATERRY at aol.com (TATERRY at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:25:48 EDT Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type Message-ID: In a message dated 10/14/2009 2:53:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eabb at loc.gov writes: > Now, I need to look into rebuilding my engine--anyone on the list familiar > with white metal bearings ("babbitt") and andy recommendations for a shop > that > knows how to do this?? > Gene, I can recommend Effingham Machine in Effingham, IL.....they did the white metal on my SA and it was superb. Terry in Oakland From hb10001 at admin.cam.ac.uk Thu Oct 15 01:46:36 2009 From: hb10001 at admin.cam.ac.uk (Hugh Barnes) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:46:36 +0100 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: <001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk><8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com><775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net><100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu><1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser> <001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> Message-ID: Hi Mike - I have just gone through the same issue here in the UK with my 1930 M type - I had all the right components for the dash *except* the little plug in fuse holder. They are the equivalent to hen's teeth as you are finding out. In the end, the guy that did the refurbishment of my dash and instumentation made me a replacement - and a pretty good job he made as well. His details are: Chris Clark The Hermitage 1 Pump Yard Turnditch Derby DE26 2LH United Kingdom Highly recommended for all instrument related repairs and overhauls... As an aside, are you ok for Bonnet and Apron catches? I have just had some commissioned and I think they have come out very nicely - you can see them here... http://www.vintageminor.co.uk/ and scroll down a bit. Orders close tomorrow!! Finally, I think this list has become quiet as have most lists of this type - newsgroups as well. In the main (in the UK at least) they tend to have been replaced by web forums. But like everyone is saying, its nice to see a little traffic again.. Best wishes to all.. Hugh -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MG Leckstein Sent: 14 October 2009 19:58 To: 'mike rambour'; british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking for a "on the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item made of Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am afraid the traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. Mike -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike rambour Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( I miss the traffic on this list. mike British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as hb10001 at admin.cam.ac.uk From eabb at loc.gov Thu Oct 15 07:54:32 2009 From: eabb at loc.gov (Eugene D Abbondelo) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:54:32 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] help with M Type] In-Reply-To: <000001ca4d16$36a4a6e0$a3edf4a0$@com> References: <4AD63190.5020501@ukonline.co.uk> <000001ca4d16$36a4a6e0$a3edf4a0$@com> Message-ID: <4AD6F158020000740007E82C@ntgwgate.loc.gov> One thing I'd like to do is try and contact British pre-war car owners in Maryland for possible gatherings--anyone from Md. on the list? Gene Hyattsville, Md. >>> "MG Leckstein" 10/14/2009 5:35 PM >>> Glad to start chatter. Thanks for the leads, but I am afraid I tried all the "usual suspects" I will keep looking and hope if anyone sees one, they would contact me. By the way, the fuse cover may not be Lucas but instead be Rotax. Lucas bought Rotax before 1930. I had my M Type at the last two NEMGT Register's GOFs. The car is pictured on the back of the Sacred Octagon (August Issue) I am standing next to the car, a friend ,Paul Allen is behind the wheel Maybe we can talk about our prewars, I am only somewhat familiar with Pre War MGs. I have a 1934 PA as well Mike -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of DavidorLinda Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 4:16 PM To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: [PreWar] help with M Type] Mike you could try a request to http://www.theelectricalpartscompany.com/index.htm Their knowledge on Lucas is unbeatable David -- OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking for a "on the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item made of Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am afraid the traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. Mike -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike rambour Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( I miss the traffic on this list. mike British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as dsouthcott at ukonline.co.uk British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as eabb at loc.gov From eabb at loc.gov Fri Oct 16 07:58:03 2009 From: eabb at loc.gov (Eugene D Abbondelo) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:58:03 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings, was Re: Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk><8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com><775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net><100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu><1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser><001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> <4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> Message-ID: <4AD843AB020000740007EB16@ntgwgate.loc.gov> Many thanks to everyone for the recommendations. Illinois is a bit far as I want to drop the block off in person. I could ship the block to the UK, but then I would worry about it getting lost (good Singer pre-war blocks are hard to find) I may give The Babbitt Pot a call first, but additionally, I have a further query on babbitt bearings: I contacted the Maryland chapter of the Model T club, as these engines have white metal bearings and was given the name of a highly touted company in Pennsylvania called Schwalmns. However, they specialize in Model T & A engines. I'm thinking the procedure would be the same, just different specifications for the Singer engine, which I can provide, if they are willing to take on the engine. Does anyone see potential problems in not going to someone experienced with British engines? Thanks for any input, Gene >>> "Gregor Zimmermann" 10/14/2009 6:18 PM >>> Gene, I can recommend Zig Billus at The Babbitt Pot. He is in Fort Edward, NY 518-747-4277 He is currently working on my 32' Alvis motor. From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com Fri Oct 16 10:39:40 2009 From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 11:39:40 -0500 Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings, was Re: Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: <4AD843AB020000740007EB16@ntgwgate.loc.gov> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk><8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com><775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net><100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu><1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser><001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com><4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> <4AD843AB020000740007EB16@ntgwgate.loc.gov> Message-ID: <27D73479B41D43D9BC964DB823BFA53B@roundabout.com> Gene, Pouring Babbitt requires molding jigs. The company doing Model T and A engines may not have suitable jigs. Cheers, Lew Palmer -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Eugene D Abbondelo Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:58 AM To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net; Gregor Zimmermann Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings, was Re: Fw: help with M Type Many thanks to everyone for the recommendations. Illinois is a bit far as I want to drop the block off in person. I could ship the block to the UK, but then I would worry about it getting lost (good Singer pre-war blocks are hard to find) I may give The Babbitt Pot a call first, but additionally, I have a further query on babbitt bearings: I contacted the Maryland chapter of the Model T club, as these engines have white metal bearings and was given the name of a highly touted company in Pennsylvania called Schwalmns. However, they specialize in Model T & A engines. I'm thinking the procedure would be the same, just different specifications for the Singer engine, which I can provide, if they are willing to take on the engine. Does anyone see potential problems in not going to someone experienced with British engines? Thanks for any input, Gene >>> "Gregor Zimmermann" 10/14/2009 6:18 PM >>> Gene, I can recommend Zig Billus at The Babbitt Pot. He is in Fort Edward, NY 518-747-4277 He is currently working on my 32' Alvis motor. British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com From bispmotala at hotmail.com Fri Oct 16 10:51:17 2009 From: bispmotala at hotmail.com (bispmotala) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:51:17 +0200 Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings, was Re: Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: <4AD843AB020000740007EB16@ntgwgate.loc.gov> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk><8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com><775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net><100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu><1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser><001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com><4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> <4AD843AB020000740007EB16@ntgwgate.loc.gov> Message-ID: Gene, The procedures are not depending on what engine the bearings are used in, BUT the specification of the metal (= the Babbitt itself) is critical. Methinks I would be very specific about what they use and what is recommended for high speed engines. For pre war M.G. it is usually specified to use Hoyt 11Z3 as it says in the book (M.G. Road Cars vol 2). You are well adviced to do some research on that. Best of luck Sven Sweden M.G. Magna L type 1933 -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] Fvr Eugene D Abbondelo Skickat: den 16 oktober 2009 15:58 Till: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net; Gregor Zimmermann Dmne: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings, was Re: Fw: help with M Type Many thanks to everyone for the recommendations. Illinois is a bit far as I want to drop the block off in person. I could ship the block to the UK, but then I would worry about it getting lost (good Singer pre-war blocks are hard to find) I may give The Babbitt Pot a call first, but additionally, I have a further query on babbitt bearings: I contacted the Maryland chapter of the Model T club, as these engines have white metal bearings and was given the name of a highly touted company in Pennsylvania called Schwalmns. However, they specialize in Model T & A engines. I'm thinking the procedure would be the same, just different specifications for the Singer engine, which I can provide, if they are willing to take on the engine. Does anyone see potential problems in not going to someone experienced with British engines? Thanks for any input, Gene >>> "Gregor Zimmermann" 10/14/2009 6:18 PM >>> Gene, I can recommend Zig Billus at The Babbitt Pot. He is in Fort Edward, NY 518-747-4277 He is currently working on my 32' Alvis motor. British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as bispmotala at hotmail.com From eabb at loc.gov Fri Oct 16 11:42:57 2009 From: eabb at loc.gov (Eugene D Abbondelo) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:42:57 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings, was Re: Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: <27D73479B41D43D9BC964DB823BFA53B@roundabout.com> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk><8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com><775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net><100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu><1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser><001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com><4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> <4AD843AB020000740007EB16@ntgwgate.loc.gov> <27D73479B41D43D9BC964DB823BFA53B@roundabout.com> Message-ID: <4AD87861020000740007ECC5@ntgwgate.loc.gov> Lew: That's a good point I hadn't realized. I'll bring that up if I go the Model T route. Gene >>> "Lew Palmer" 10/16/2009 12:39 PM >>> Gene, Pouring Babbitt requires molding jigs. The company doing Model T and A engines may not have suitable jigs. Cheers, Lew Palmer From Bill5600 at aol.com Fri Oct 16 13:51:42 2009 From: Bill5600 at aol.com (Bill5600 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:51:42 EDT Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings, was Re: Fw: help with M Type Message-ID: I also would look into having your rods converted to shell bearings. I have had this done on my racing Rileys with great success. Bill In a message dated 10/16/2009 9:31:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, eabb at loc.gov writes: Many thanks to everyone for the recommendations. Illinois is a bit far as I want to drop the block off in person. I could ship the block to the UK, but then I would worry about it getting lost (good Singer pre-war blocks are hard to find) I may give The Babbitt Pot a call first, but additionally, I have a further query on Babbitt bearings: I contacted the Maryland chapter of the Model T club, as these engines have white metal bearings and was given the name of a highly touted company in Pennsylvania called Schwalmns. However, they specialize in Model T & A engines. I'm thinking the procedure would be the same, just different specifications for the Singer engine, which I can provide, if they are willing to take on the engine. Does anyone see potential problems in not going to someone experienced with British engines? Thanks for any input, Gene >>> "Gregor Zimmermann" 10/14/2009 6:18 PM >>> Gene, I can recommend Zig Billus at The Babbitt Pot. He is in Fort Edward, NY 518-747-4277 He is currently working on my 32' Alvis motor. British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as bill5600 at aol.com From twelvetrees at mac.com Mon Oct 19 09:24:09 2009 From: twelvetrees at mac.com (Adrian Twelvetrees) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:24:09 +0100 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: <4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> <775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net> <100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu> <1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser> <001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> <4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> Message-ID: <320CDD06-3AEC-4E2D-B5BF-9CFC5B89F7E9@mac.com> Hi Gene, What country are you in? Best, Roger On 14 Oct 2009, at 22:07, Eugene D Abbondelo wrote: > Mike: > > I guess you've tried Barry Walker, Gregory's, et al. Dash stuff > seems to be > very hard to find for pre-war cars. I spent 3 years looking for the > correct > horn push for the steering wheel on my 35' Singer LeMans and > finally found > recently on UKEbay. > > Now, I need to look into rebuilding my engine--anyone on the list > familiar > with white metal bearings ("babbitt") and andy recommendations for > a shop that > knows how to do this?? > > Gene > > > >>>> "MG Leckstein" 10/14/2009 2:58 PM >>> > OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking > for a "on > the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item > made of > Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am > afraid the > traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike > rambour > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM > To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber > > :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most > traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( > > I miss the traffic on this list. > > mike > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as eabb at loc.gov > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as twelvetrees at mac.com From eabb at loc.gov Mon Oct 19 11:16:50 2009 From: eabb at loc.gov (Eugene D Abbondelo) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:16:50 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: <320CDD06-3AEC-4E2D-B5BF-9CFC5B89F7E9@mac.com> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> <775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net> <100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu> <1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser> <001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> <4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> <320CDD06-3AEC-4E2D-B5BF-9CFC5B89F7E9@mac.com> Message-ID: <4ADC66C2020000740007F062@ntgwgate.loc.gov> Hi Adrian: I'm in Maryland, USA. Gene >>> Adrian Twelvetrees 10/19/2009 11:24 AM >>> Hi Gene, What country are you in? Best, Roger On 14 Oct 2009, at 22:07, Eugene D Abbondelo wrote: > Mike: > > I guess you've tried Barry Walker, Gregory's, et al. Dash stuff > seems to be > very hard to find for pre-war cars. I spent 3 years looking for the > correct > horn push for the steering wheel on my 35' Singer LeMans and > finally found > recently on UKEbay. > > Now, I need to look into rebuilding my engine--anyone on the list > familiar > with white metal bearings ("babbitt") and andy recommendations for > a shop that > knows how to do this?? > > Gene > > > >>>> "MG Leckstein" 10/14/2009 2:58 PM >>> > OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking > for a "on > the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item > made of > Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am > afraid the > traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike > rambour > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM > To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber > > :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most > traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( > > I miss the traffic on this list. > > mike > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as eabb at loc.gov > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > http://www.team.net/archive > > British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war > > You are subscribed as twelvetrees at mac.com From twelvetrees at mac.com Mon Oct 19 12:10:53 2009 From: twelvetrees at mac.com (Adrian Twelvetrees) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:10:53 +0100 Subject: [PreWar] Fw: help with M Type In-Reply-To: <4ADC66C2020000740007F062@ntgwgate.loc.gov> References: <4AD4E1E9.8070408@ukonline.co.uk> <8CC1AB3E1A208C4-350-C7C@webmail-d095.sysops.aol.com> <775AEAB1-69B4-4DD8-A331-CB20F2A0637B@sbcglobal.net> <100AAA08D4AAAD4CB2FA2EF57BA816E7176AE4235C@CUEXCHANGEMB01.mail.cornell.edu> <1255533946.3785.110.camel@WebBrowser> <001001ca4d00$49871a10$dc954e30$@com> <4AD60547020000740007E6FE@ntgwgate.loc.gov> <320CDD06-3AEC-4E2D-B5BF-9CFC5B89F7E9@mac.com> <4ADC66C2020000740007F062@ntgwgate.loc.gov> Message-ID: <3E55295D-AC17-420B-BC60-6FD41C2D79B2@mac.com> Hi Gene, I'm just back from a few days away, so I have only just read all the subsequent posts. In addition to choosing the correct alloy, there is a lot of careful observation and judgement needed in the casting process. I have been told by a retired white metal expert that you need to be doing the job nearly every day to guarantee a good result. So, pick a workshop that does lots of them, and make sure that their expert has not just retired leaving the apprentice to learn by experience. Best, Roger On 19 Oct 2009, at 18:16, Eugene D Abbondelo wrote: > Hi Adrian: I'm in Maryland, USA. > > Gene > >>>> Adrian Twelvetrees 10/19/2009 11:24 AM >>> > Hi Gene, > > What country are you in? > > Best, > > Roger > > > On 14 Oct 2009, at 22:07, Eugene D Abbondelo wrote: > >> Mike: >> >> I guess you've tried Barry Walker, Gregory's, et al. Dash stuff >> seems to be >> very hard to find for pre-war cars. I spent 3 years looking for the >> correct >> horn push for the steering wheel on my 35' Singer LeMans and >> finally found >> recently on UKEbay. >> >> Now, I need to look into rebuilding my engine--anyone on the list >> familiar >> with white metal bearings ("babbitt") and andy recommendations for >> a shop that >> knows how to do this?? >> >> Gene >> >> >> >>>>> "MG Leckstein" 10/14/2009 2:58 PM >>> >> OK just to get traffic (I thought this list was dead) I am looking >> for a "on >> the dash" fuse holder and cover for an MG M Type. Very rare item >> made of >> Bakelite. I am on the MMM Forum and have asked without luck. I am >> afraid the >> traffic on this list went to the MMM Forum for pre 36 MGGs. >> >> Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of >> mike >> rambour >> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:26 AM >> To: british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [PreWar] Fw: help with my humber >> >> :( This list finally wakes up and gets some traffic and the most >> traffic is by someone wanting off the list :( >> >> I miss the traffic on this list. >> >> mike >> British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war >> >> You are subscribed as mgleckstein at monmouth.com >> British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war >> >> You are subscribed as eabb at loc.gov >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war >> >> You are subscribed as twelvetrees at mac.com From KG at dolby.com Tue Oct 20 11:35:17 2009 From: KG at dolby.com (Gundry, Kenneth) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:35:17 -0700 Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <05BB196AB3DA6C4BBE11AB6C957581FE1F275479@sfo-exch-01.dolby.net> While we're on the subject, so to speak, can anyone recommend a firm to do Babbitt bearings in the San Francisco Bay Area? I have no real reason to suspect problems at present, but I am a bit puzzled that oil pressure is not maintained at low revs. when the oil gets hot, and one explanation would be that one or more bearings are leaking oil. If the bearings were converted to shells (if appropriate sizes were available), would bearing life be greater or less? Ken G, 1925 Rover 16/50 Touring Car (San Francisco, well, Walnut Creek now) -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill5600 at aol.com Sent: Friday, 16 October, 2009 12:52 PM To: eabb at loc.gov; british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net; gzimmermann at myfairpoint.net Subject: Re: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings, was Re: Fw: help with M Type I also would look into having your rods converted to shell bearings. I have had this done on my racing Rileys with great success. Bill In a message dated 10/16/2009 9:31:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, eabb at loc.gov writes: Many thanks to everyone for the recommendations. Illinois is a bit far as I want to drop the block off in person. I could ship the block to the UK, but then I would worry about it getting lost (good Singer pre-war blocks are hard to find) I may give The Babbitt Pot a call first, but additionally, I have a further query on Babbitt bearings: I contacted the Maryland chapter of the Model T club, as these engines have white metal bearings and was given the name of a highly touted company in Pennsylvania called Schwalmns. However, they specialize in Model T & A engines. I'm thinking the procedure would be the same, just different specifications for the Singer engine, which I can provide, if they are willing to take on the engine. Does anyone see potential problems in not going to someone experienced with British engines? Thanks for any input, Gene >>> "Gregor Zimmermann" 10/14/2009 6:18 >>> PM >>> Gene, I can recommend Zig Billus at The Babbitt Pot. He is in Fort Edward, NY 518-747-4277 He is currently working on my 32' Alvis motor. British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as bill5600 at aol.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.team.net/archive British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as kg at dolby.com ----------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. From mikey at b2systems.com Tue Oct 20 14:01:45 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:01:45 -0700 Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings In-Reply-To: <05BB196AB3DA6C4BBE11AB6C957581FE1F275479@sfo-exch-01.dolby.net> References: <05BB196AB3DA6C4BBE11AB6C957581FE1F275479@sfo-exch-01.dolby.net> Message-ID: <1256068905.3785.1869.camel@WebBrowser> OK, now we are on the correct coast, please reply to the list so I know also. I had the address of someone in San Diego who has done pre-war Singer motors before but that was about 10 years ago and not even sure he is still around, trying to get his name/number back, its on a very old IPAQ handheld that is not working right now :( He was quite elderly then, I have to assume he is not working anymore as he would be in his 90s now. Too bad too because he had made some jigs for the Singer motor. But San Fran is close enough, if there is someone up there I can take my motor up there. mike On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 10:35 -0700, Gundry, Kenneth wrote: > While we're on the subject, so to speak, can anyone recommend a firm to do > Babbitt bearings in the San Francisco Bay Area? I have no real reason to > suspect problems at present, but I am a bit puzzled that oil pressure is not > maintained at low revs. when the oil gets hot, and one explanation would be > that one or more bearings are leaking oil. > > If the bearings were converted > to shells (if appropriate sizes were available), would bearing life be greater > or less? > > Ken G, 1925 Rover 16/50 Touring Car (San Francisco, well, Walnut > Creek now) From Bill5600 at aol.com Tue Oct 20 15:13:09 2009 From: Bill5600 at aol.com (Bill5600 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 17:13:09 EDT Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings Message-ID: In California I would talk to Jan Voboril. The last phone number I had was 310 455 1026. Jan has driven his 1016 Lancia across the country and back and does the best elderly engine work on the West coast. Bill Alexander In a message dated 10/20/2009 3:19:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikey at b2systems.com writes: OK, now we are on the correct coast, please reply to the list so I know also. I had the address of someone in San Diego who has done pre-war Singer motors before but that was about 10 years ago and not even sure he is still around, trying to get his name/number back, its on a very old IPAQ handheld that is not working right now :( He was quite elderly then, I have to assume he is not working anymore as he would be in his 90s now. Too bad too because he had made some jigs for the Singer motor. But San Fran is close enough, if there is someone up there I can take my motor up there. mike On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 10:35 -0700, Gundry, Kenneth wrote: > While we're on the subject, so to speak, can anyone recommend a firm to do > Babbitt bearings in the San Francisco Bay Area? I have no real reason to > suspect problems at present, but I am a bit puzzled that oil pressure is not > maintained at low revs. when the oil gets hot, and one explanation would be > that one or more bearings are leaking oil. > > If the bearings were converted > to shells (if appropriate sizes were available), would bearing life be greater > or less? > > Ken G, 1925 Rover 16/50 Touring Car (San Francisco, well, Walnut > Creek now) British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as bill5600 at aol.com From KG at dolby.com Wed Oct 21 16:57:34 2009 From: KG at dolby.com (Gundry, Kenneth) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:57:34 -0700 Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <05BB196AB3DA6C4BBE11AB6C957581FE1F3E38C9@sfo-exch-01.dolby.net> Bill et al. Someone on San Francisco Peninsula, with a 1939 Daimler, has suggested that I contact Alec Giamo in San Carlos. I haven't tried to look him up, and probably won't do so since I am coming to the conclusion that it is very unlikely that I am in need of remade bearings at present (they were renewed only very few thousand miles ago) but others might find this information useful (and a review of actual work would be helpful). Ken G, 1925 Rover 16/50 (San Francisco) -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill5600 at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, 20 October, 2009 2:13 PM To: mikey at b2systems.com; british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings In California I would talk to Jan Voboril. The last phone number I had was 310 455 1026. Jan has driven his 1016 Lancia across the country and back and does the best elderly engine work on the West coast. Bill Alexander In a message dated 10/20/2009 3:19:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikey at b2systems.com writes: OK, now we are on the correct coast, please reply to the list so I know also. I had the address of someone in San Diego who has done pre-war Singer motors before but that was about 10 years ago and not even sure he is still around, trying to get his name/number back, its on a very old IPAQ handheld that is not working right now :( He was quite elderly then, I have to assume he is not working anymore as he would be in his 90s now. Too bad too because he had made some jigs for the Singer motor. But San Fran is close enough, if there is someone up there I can take my motor up there. mike On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 10:35 -0700, Gundry, Kenneth wrote: > While we're on the subject, so to speak, can anyone recommend a firm > to do > Babbitt bearings in the San Francisco Bay Area? I have no real > reason to suspect problems at present, but I am a bit puzzled that > oil pressure is not > maintained at low revs. when the oil gets hot, and one explanation > would be > that one or more bearings are leaking oil. > > If the bearings were converted > to shells (if appropriate sizes were available), would bearing life > be greater > or less? > > Ken G, 1925 Rover 16/50 Touring Car (San Francisco, well, Walnut > Creek now) British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as bill5600 at aol.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.team.net/archive British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as kg at dolby.com ----------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. From taterry at aol.com Wed Oct 21 18:06:29 2009 From: taterry at aol.com (taterry at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:06:29 -0400 Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings In-Reply-To: <05BB196AB3DA6C4BBE11AB6C957581FE1F3E38C9@sfo-exch-01.dolby.net> References: <05BB196AB3DA6C4BBE11AB6C957581FE1F3E38C9@sfo-exch-01.dolby.net> Message-ID: <8CC20C2A3F21FE0-860-74A@webmail-stg-d11.sysops.aol.com> This is the go to guy in the Bay Area for babbit but my machinist would not use him,said he was too difficult to difficult to deal with....he prefered Effingham Machine in Illinois who did a superb job.... Terry -----Original Message----- From: Gundry, Kenneth To: Bill5600 at aol.com; mikey at b2systems.com; british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, Oct 21, 2009 3:57 pm Subject: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings Bill et al. Someone on San Francisco Peninsula, with a 1939 Daimler, has suggested that I contact Alec Giamo in San Carlos. I haven't tried to look him up, and probably won't do so since I am coming to the conclusion that it is very unlikely that I am in need of remade bearings at present (they were renewed only very few thousand miles ago) but others might find this information useful (and a review of actual work would be helpful). Ken G, 1925 Rover 16/50 (San Francisco) -----Original Message----- From: british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:british-cars-pre-war-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill5600 at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, 20 October, 2009 2:13 PM To: mikey at b2systems.com; british-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [PreWar] Help with babbitt bearings In California I would talk to Jan Voboril. The last phone number I had was 310 455 1026. Jan has driven his 1016 Lancia across the country and back and does the best elderly engine work on the West coast. Bill Alexander In a message dated 10/20/2009 3:19:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mikey at b2systems.com writes: OK, now we are on the correct coast, please reply to the list so I know also. I had the address of someone in San Diego who has done pre-war Singer motors before but that was about 10 years ago and not even sure he is still around, trying to get his name/number back, its on a very old IPAQ handheld that is not working right now :( He was quite elderly then, I have to assume he is not working anymore as he would be in his 90s now. Too bad too because he had made some jigs for the Singer motor. But San Fran is close enough, if there is someone up there I can take my motor up there. mike On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 10:35 -0700, Gundry, Kenneth wrote: > While we're on the subject, so to speak, can anyone recommend a firm > to do > Babbitt bearings in the San Francisco Bay Area? I have no real > reason to suspect problems at present, but I am a bit puzzled that > oil pressure is not > maintained at low revs. when the oil gets hot, and one explanation > would be > that one or more bearings are leaking oil. > > If the bearings were converted > to shells (if appropriate sizes were available), would bearing life > be greater > or less? > > Ken G, 1925 Rover 16/50 Touring Car (San Francisco, well, Walnut > Creek now) British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as bill5600 at aol.com _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html http://www.team.net/archive British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as kg at dolby.com ----------------------------------------- This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, delete this message. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosing, copying, distributing, or taking any action based on this message is strictly prohibited. British-cars-pre-war at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/british-cars-pre-war You are subscribed as taterry at aol.com