[Bricklin] Cleveland vs Windsor

[JLC]

I had cars with both 351W and 351C engines. The stock Cleveland has better
heads than the Windsor, especially the Cleveland 4V. The Windsor has the
bigger mains and better oiling system. Parts for the Windsor ought to be
more plentiful and cheaper.

Here are some of the differences:

Windsor:
5 bolt valve covers
Thermostat on intake
Timing cover is part of the block

Cleveland:
8 bolt valve covers
Thermostat on front of block
External aluminum timing cover


They are both small blocks, but the Cleveland is wider than the Windsor due
to taller deck height (9.123" vs 8.206")

Below is some info I originally got from a website:

351C Engines by VIN Tag Engine Code

Code   Engine Type       Comment                         

H        351C-2V         Generic low compression 351C, '70-74

M        351C-4V         Somewhat Rare, High Compression, '70-71  only   

R        351C-4V Boss    Very Rare, High Compression, Solid Lifters,  "Boss
351", 1971 only   

R        351C-4V HO      Very  Rare, Low Compression, Solid Lifters,  "High
Output" 1972 only

Q        351C-4V CJ      Rare, Low Compression, "Cobra-Jet" May 1971/, '72, 

Q        351C-4V CJ      Rare, Low Compression, "Cobra-Jet", 1973-74,
decreased performance, see 4V section notes. 


JLC

-----Original Message-----
From: bricklin-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:bricklin-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of klasicars
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:23 AM
To: Bricklin at autox.team.net
Subject: [Bricklin] Cleveland vs Windsor

/I have run across an ad for a '74 351 Cleveland with a AOD transmission 
and headers.
I know I have read about some members converting from the Windsor to 
Cleveland.
My question is, is this a direct replacement or is the Cleveland 
physically larger which might require special attention? I am not 
concerned with the AOD portion as I already have replaced my FMX with a 
AOD on my stock Windsor. Exactly what identifying marks do I look for to 
verify this is a true Cleveland and not just a converted Windsor? Isn't 
there a cast in mark on the block?

Thanks,
Don
#1880 and other toys

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