<div dir="ltr">All this talk of vintage plates and we still have no picture of the subject Mini. How about posting a picture of it, Aaron?<div style>Bruce O.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:51 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rgood36362@aol.com" target="_blank">rgood36362@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<font color="black" face="arial">They changed the definition of vintage to 30 years. My 1980 TR7 is licensed as vintage.<br>
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From: Maclean, Jon A <<a href="mailto:Jon.A.Maclean@boeing.com" target="_blank">Jon.A.Maclean@boeing.com</a>><br>
To: Pugs <<a href="mailto:pugsracer@comcast.net" target="_blank">pugsracer@comcast.net</a>>; marcus <<a href="mailto:marcus@utahgeology.org" target="_blank">marcus@utahgeology.org</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: [Bmcu] Bought a Mini!<br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span>Here is some info for inspection requirement for a vintage vehicle</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span>From the 2011-2012 Utah safety inspection manual, pg 77</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span>2. "</span><b><span>Vintage Vehicle</span></b><span>" means</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span>a. a motor vehicle that is
</span><b><span>40(**) years old or older</span></b><span>, used primarily as a</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span>collector's item, and used for participation in club activities, exhibitions,</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span>tours, parades, occasional transportation, and similar uses, but that is</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span>not
</span></b><span>used for general daily transportation.</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span>*NOTE: A vintage vehicle does NOT require a safety inspection</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span>(UCA 53-8-205).</span></b></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">**This is changing to 30 years or older 1 jul2011<span></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><b>53-8-205.</b> <b>Safety inspection required -- Frequency of safety inspection -- Safety inspection certificate required -- Out-of-state permits.</b><br>
(1) (a) Except as provided in Subsection (1)(b), a person may not operate on a highway a motor vehicle required to be registered in this state unless the motor vehicle has passed a safety inspection.<br>
(b) Subsection (1)(a) does not apply to:<br>
(i) a vehicle that is exempt from registration under Section <b>41-1a-205</b>;<br>
(ii) an off-highway vehicle, unless the off-highway vehicle is being registered as a street-legal all-terrain vehicle in accordance with Section
<b>41-6a-1509</b>;<br>
(iii) a vintage vehicle as defined in Section <b>41-21-1</b>;<br>
(iv) a commercial vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating over 26,000 pounds that:<br>
(A) is operating with an apportioned registration under Section 41-1a-301; and<br>
(B) has a valid annual federal inspection that complies with the requirements of 49 C.F.R. 396.17; and<br>
(v) a trailer, semitrailer, or trailering equipment attached to a commercial motor vehicle described in Subsection (1)(a)(iv) that has a valid annual federal inspection that complies with the requirements of 49</div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b>41-21-1.</b> <b>Street rod and vintage vehicle defined.</b><br>
(1) (a) "Street rod" means a motor vehicle that:<br>
(i) (A) was manufactured in 1948 or before; or<br>
(B) (I) was manufactured after 1948 to resemble a vehicle that was manufactured in 1948 or before; and<br>
(II) (Aa) has been altered from the manufacturer's original design; or<br>
(Bb) has a body constructed from non-original materials; and<br>
(ii) is primarily a collector's item that is used for:<br>
(A) club activities;<br>
(B) exhibitions;<br>
(C) tours;<br>
(D) parades;<br>
(E) occasional transportation; and<br>
(F) other similar uses.<br>
(b) A street rod does not include a motor vehicle that is used for general, daily transportation.<br>
(2) (a) "Vintage vehicle" means a motor vehicle that is 40 years old or older, from the current year, primarily a collector's item, and used for participation in club activities, exhibitions, tours, parades, occasional transportation, and similar uses,
but that is not used for general daily transportation.<br>
(b) "Vintage vehicle" includes a street rod. <br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> <a>bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net</a> [<a>mailto:bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Pugs<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a>marcus@utahgeology.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a>bmcu@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bmcu] Bought a Mini!</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">The safety inspect depends on person at DMV. Some don't care some insist on it. <br>
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On May 2, 2013, at 9:35 AM, "<a>marcus@utahgeology.org</a>" <<a>marcus@utahgeology.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">I did NOT need a safety inspection when I titled, registered, and got vintage plates my 73 Europa for the first time last year. The title had been lost and it was last registered in Cali in 1993, so I had to jump through hoops, but no
safety inspection.<br>
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Mark<br>
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On 5/2/2013 8:47 AM, Richard Reeder wrote:</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>Last year I got the antique plates for my mgb. It cost $85,00 but I dont have to have that cocamimi emitions inspection again. You must have a safety inspection the first year and then
no more. next year I am expecting to pay $10.00 for regesteration and for the rest of the time<br>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> -J
<a><dodahman_001@yahoo.com></a><br>
<b>To:</b> Aaron Sphar <a><atsphar@yahoo.com></a>
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<b>Cc:</b> <a>"Bmcu@autox.team.net"</a> <a>
<Bmcu@autox.team.net></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 1, 2013 11:21 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bmcu] Bought a Mini!</span><span style></span></div>
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activities. But how are they going to know? </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>I think I paid $65 with personalized plates.</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><i><span style="color:#333333">BTW, this is my first group email since joining the club. I figured I'd just join in on the fun. <mime-attachment.png></span></i><span style></span></div>
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Aaron Sphar <a><atsphar@yahoo.com></a> wrote:</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>Sorry Brownie, it wasn't me. I went from driveway to driveway. The sqealing fan belt and old tires kept me from making too many stops. Hopefully I'll be able to replace the fan belt and
de-glaze the pulleys tonight as well as check out a few things Rob Green recommended. New tires should be here Friday, but I won't be able to get them mounted till next week.
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>Does anyone have any recomendations or advice about getting the antique plates? I have not had a change to review the application process yet.</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>Aaron Sphar<br>
<a>atsphar@yahoo.com</a><br>
<a href="tel:%28801%29%20941-0926" value="+18019410926" target="_blank">(801) 941-0926</a></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span>From:</span></b><span> Brownie E.L. Petersen
<a><browniepetersen@readytek.net></a><br>
<b>To:</b> Aaron Sphar <a><atsphar@yahoo.com></a>;
<a>Bmcu@autox.team.net</a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 1, 2013 6:43 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bmcu] Bought a Mini!</span><span style></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span>1976 MGB</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span>From:</span></b><span>
<a title="atsphar@yahoo.com">Aaron Sphar</a>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span>Sent:</span></b><span> Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:23 AM</span></div>
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<a title="Bmcu@autox.team.net">
Bmcu@autox.team.net</a> </span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:whitesmoke"><b><span>Subject:</span></b><span> [Bmcu] Bought a Mini!</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>I bought a '76 Mini last night! Drove it from Logan to North Ogden with no problems (I even hit a streach of I-15 at 65 mph). It looks good (but not perfect), has a few mechanical items
to take care of, but it will definately be a driver. Now I can restore my '70 B while I drive/maintain/learn about the Mini. Hope to motor with all of you at the Antelope Is. run!</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>To answer the next few questions:</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>Disc's and shocks up front, drums and cones in the aft</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style>Aaron Sphar<br>
<a>atsphar@yahoo.com</a><br>
<a href="tel:%28801%29%20941-0926" value="+18019410926" target="_blank">(801) 941-0926</a></span></div>
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