From andrew at drooartz.com Fri Jan 6 20:39:11 2012 From: andrew at drooartz.com (Andrew Frink) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:39:11 -0700 Subject: [Bmcu] February planning meeting, February 4 Message-ID: <51F77176-881F-4871-89FE-D12558BAFF84@drooartz.com> British Motor Club of Utah 2012 Planning Meeting, February 4th. ***Not to be confused, the original date was Feb 25. NEW DATE IS FEB 4*** (This change will allow more of our members to attend) Come One, Come All! The British Motor Club of Utah proudly announces their 2012 February Planning Meeting and Annual Pot Luck Dinner! This star studded evening of intrigue, romance and surprises is in a new location this year, The Columbus Center. Located at 2531 South and 400 East in South Salt Lake City, this venue has plenty of convenient parking and an interesting building history. Check out the links below for details: * http://www.ssl.state.ut.us/recreation/columbuscenter.html * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Center Saturday, February 4th is the date to circle on your calendar. We will have a ?meet and greet? and start setting out the food beginning at 6:00 P.M. with the dinner to begin at 7:00. The remainder of the evening will be our one and only business meeting and calendar planning session of the entire year! We?re not really as well organized as that statement sounds, but we have a long and proud history of not filling up our calendar with meetings! This is your opportunity to voice your opinions, concerns and interests for the events of the coming year. Please bring your ideas, enthusiasm and a tasty dish for an evening of LBC talk and bench racing. In addition to the Delectable Pot Luck item of your choice, don?t forget to bring your checkbook! Mitch Johnson and Paul ?The Bag Man? Jaroch will have all of the Club Regalia that you have been waiting for. Be sure to congratulate Mitch on the ?most excellent? new golf shirt. Likewise, the new Club Patch is available for sewing on to whatever you can think of! Car Badges, Decals, Key Fobs? the list is immense and you?ll want one of everything.* *The Inevitable Disclaimers: Donations to the Club Treasury are always welcome. BYOB, (unfortunately NO alcoholic beverages allowed). Plastic silverware, plates and napkins will be provided. Please bring any serving utensils needed for your Pot Luck item. Copyright ? 2012 British Motor Club of Utah. All Rights Reserved. No computers were harmed in the 0.743 seconds it took to produce this page. From richornot at comcast.net Mon Jan 9 12:53:30 2012 From: richornot at comcast.net (richornot at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Bmcu] FW: DROVE THE SAME CAR FOR 82 YEARS! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <655035740.668384.1326138810569.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> That sure beets my short 27 years with my Tr250? but then again im only 58 and not dead yet? f rom: "Rudy Vanderniet" To: bmcu at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 10:25:08 AM Subject: [Bmcu] FW: DROVE THE SAME CAR FOR 82 YEARS! ? ? Another British Car award! Man Owned & Drove Same Car for 82 YEARS. ? Can you imagine having the same car for 82 years!?. I guess it was no longer under warranty. "How Long Have You Owned a Car?" Mr. Allen Swift ( Springfield , MA.) received this 1928 Rolls-Royce Picadilly P1 Roadster from his father, brand new - as a graduation gift in 1928. He drove it up until his death last year...? at the age of 102!!! ? He was the oldest living owner of a car from new.? Just thought you'd like to see it. He donated it to a Springfield museum after his death. It has 1,070,000 miles on it, still runs like a Swiss watch, dead silent at any speed and is ? in perfect cosmetic condition. (82 years) That's approximately 13,048 miles per year (1087 per month)... What a beautiful car! ? ? ? ? Rudy Vanderniet 5162 Alvera Dr. Holladay, UT 84117 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Bmcu at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/bmcu/richornot at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ATT001281.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 41788 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rts_pc at YAHOO.COM Mon Jan 9 15:26:02 2012 From: rts_pc at YAHOO.COM (Ralph Sawyer) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 15:26:02 -0700 Subject: [Bmcu] FW: DROVE THE SAME CAR FOR 82 YEARS! In-Reply-To: <655035740.668384.1326138810569.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <655035740.668384.1326138810569.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <004a01cccf1d$ac620d10$05262730$@COM> I second that with my 35 years with my 71 TR-6. At 57, I too have years to go, although Rolls Royces should inherently last longer!! And I assure you, his RR has not been driven as hard as my TR-6. Best Regards, Ralph Sawyer rts_pc at yahoo.com From: bmcu-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:bmcu-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of richornot at comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:54 PM To: bmcu at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: DROVE THE SAME CAR FOR 82 YEARS! That sure beets my short 27 years with my Tr250 but then again im only 58 and not dead yet from: "Rudy Vanderniet" To: bmcu at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 10:25:08 AM Subject: [Bmcu] FW: DROVE THE SAME CAR FOR 82 YEARS! Another British Car award! Man Owned & Drove Same Car for 82 YEARS. Can you imagine having the same car for 82 years!?. I guess it was no longer under warranty. "How Long Have You Owned a Car?" cid:image001.jpg at 01CCCEE2.C4F43050 Mr. Allen Swift ( Springfield , MA.) received this 1928 Rolls-Royce Picadilly P1 Roadster from his father, brand new - as a graduation gift in 1928. He drove it up until his death last year... at the age of 102!!! He was the oldest living owner of a car from new. Just thought you'd like to see it. He donated it to a Springfield museum after his death. It has 1,070,000 miles on it, still runs like a Swiss watch, dead silent at any speed and is in perfect cosmetic condition. (82 years) That's approximately 13,048 miles per year (1087 per month)... What a beautiful car! Rudy Vanderniet 5162 Alvera Dr. Holladay, UT 84117 _____ _______________________________________________ Bmcu at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/bmcu/richornot at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 41788 bytes Desc: not available URL: From browniepetersen at readytek.net Mon Jan 9 16:26:04 2012 From: browniepetersen at readytek.net (Edwin Petersen) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 16:26:04 -0700 Subject: [Bmcu] FW: DROVE THE SAME CAR FOR 82 YEARS! In-Reply-To: <004a01cccf1d$ac620d10$05262730$@COM> References: <655035740.668384.1326138810569.JavaMail.root@sz0014a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <004a01cccf1d$ac620d10$05262730$@COM> Message-ID: <000001cccf26$0ec9b9f0$2c5d2dd0$@readytek.net> I owned a car once for one day??? Does that qualify?? From: bmcu-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:bmcu-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ralph Sawyer Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:26 PM To: richornot at comcast.net; bmcu at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: DROVE THE SAME CAR FOR 82 YEARS! I second that with my 35 years with my 71 TR-6. At 57, I too have years to go, although Rolls Royces should inherently last longer!! And I assure you, his RR has not been driven as hard as my TR-6. Best Regards, Ralph Sawyer rts_pc at yahoo.com From: bmcu-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:bmcu-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of richornot at comcast.net Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 12:54 PM To: bmcu at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: DROVE THE SAME CAR FOR 82 YEARS! That sure beets my short 27 years with my Tr250 but then again im only 58 and not dead yet from: "Rudy Vanderniet" To: bmcu at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 10:25:08 AM Subject: [Bmcu] FW: DROVE THE SAME CAR FOR 82 YEARS! Another British Car award! Man Owned & Drove Same Car for 82 YEARS. Can you imagine having the same car for 82 years!?. I guess it was no longer under warranty. "How Long Have You Owned a Car?" cid:image001.jpg at 01CCCEE2.C4F43050 Mr. Allen Swift ( Springfield , MA.) received this 1928 Rolls-Royce Picadilly P1 Roadster from his father, brand new - as a graduation gift in 1928. He drove it up until his death last year... at the age of 102!!! He was the oldest living owner of a car from new. Just thought you'd like to see it. He donated it to a Springfield museum after his death. It has 1,070,000 miles on it, still runs like a Swiss watch, dead silent at any speed and is in perfect cosmetic condition. (82 years) That's approximately 13,048 miles per year (1087 per month)... What a beautiful car! Rudy Vanderniet 5162 Alvera Dr. Holladay, UT 84117 _____ _______________________________________________ Bmcu at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/bmcu/richornot at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 41788 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ryan_border at yahoo.com Sun Jan 15 13:27:04 2012 From: ryan_border at yahoo.com (Ryan Border) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 12:27:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Bmcu] Jag starter failure Message-ID: <1326659224.31290.YahooMailNeo@web81905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A couple of months ago, my Jag (4.2L Mk1) appeared to suffer a starter failure. I drug it back into the garage, and today decided to see if I could figure out the exact cause. I've posted a few pictures here: https://plus.google.com/photos/117207951299152771926/albums/5697955078346659009 One picture shows the starter. ? It's missing some bits off the end of the shaft. The other two pictures show 2 of those missing parts, as seen through my bell housing inspection hole. ? Neither of the two parts will fit through the hole. I also found broken up pieces of cotter pin in there. ? Looks like a $0.10 cotter pin failure caused all of this. So, apparently, the cotter pin failed, allowing at least 2 pieces to eject themselves off of the starter shaft, behind the flywheel, into the bellhousing. Seems like I am going to have to split either the motor or transmission from the bellhousing to retrieve the parts. ? If I am sure I have all the parts (if there are only two missing from the shaft) I might be able to open up that inspection hole enough to drop the parts out. If I have to split the motor and trans, I think I'll go ahead and put a bigger clutch in. ? The 4.2 overwhelms this clutch when you really get on it (it slips). And, for many years, I've wanted to put a 5spd into the car, with overdrive. ? If I have to drop the motor, split the trans apart... well, now sure seems like the time to do it... ? ?The conversion, I think, would let me put a more robust, and reliable starter into it too. ? I'm running the old (from my 2.4) flywheel in there now, along with the old bell-housing, which left me stuck using the 1959 starter. Thoughts/ideas? ? Who's making a good 5spd conversion kit these days? Ryan. From ryan_border at yahoo.com Sun Jan 15 21:09:47 2012 From: ryan_border at yahoo.com (Ryan Border) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 20:09:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Bmcu] Starter Failure (update) Message-ID: <1326686987.47229.YahooMailNeo@web81905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was able to fish out the two pieces from the bell-housing, through the hole that the throwout lever goes through (bigger, higher on the side). I got all the parts together, and took an inventory.?? Something was obviously missing- looked like it should probably be a spring.?? Found a diagram in one of my manuals and confirmed... it's a big spring.? The manual calls it the starter "main spring". I think I finally found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqwakV3_feQ It's really stuck.? I'm thinking the turning motor (under the torque of the starter) wedged it in here, between the flywheel and the bell-housing.?? Back turning the motor by hand, might free it.? If that doesn't work, I think I'll be doing major surgery on this thing- Ryan. From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jan 15 21:43:05 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:43:05 -0700 Subject: [Bmcu] Starter Failure (update) In-Reply-To: <1326686987.47229.YahooMailNeo@web81905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1326686987.47229.YahooMailNeo@web81905.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F13AAD9.2070601@bradakis.com> Thanks to the video, I see your problem - the motor is upside down! mjb. From andrew at drooartz.com Wed Jan 18 13:27:32 2012 From: andrew at drooartz.com (andrew at drooartz.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:27:32 -0700 Subject: [Bmcu] MGB prep advice for road trip In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <183c1124c66495719e9d5b435b468e61@drooartz.com> At the very least check the pads and shoes. Neither are difficult to swap some basic hand tools. If you don't know when the brake hoses were last replaced, go ahead and do them. They're not that difficult and cheap insurance. Good quality rubber ones are just fine, though there's nothing wrong with the braided lines (I used braided ones on the Bugeye when I did those brakes). Flush/bleed with new fluid and you're good to go. There are only 3 soft hoses -- 1 to each front wheel and one to the rear axle. Heck, I'll be doing all the above (new pads and hoses) on my MGB in April or so. Swing on by and we'll make it a Midway tech session. -Drew On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:37:58 -0700, Jay Williams wrote: > I've wondered about flushing the brake system and changing front > pads. Is this hard to do in an MG? I've changed front pads in an old > van a while ago. Also wonder about changing front brake lines to > steel--is this worth it? Pros/cons to this?