From lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi Fri May 4 16:40:13 2012 From: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi (Lauri Lehtinen) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 01:40:13 +0300 Subject: [Alpines] Window lift Message-ID: <002201cd2a46$df8f4c00$9eade400$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> After replacing side window seals I have difficulties to replace windows and adjust lift movement. Windows are in situ, but when lift moves up and down windows want to move fore and after. When adjusting U rails at rear of the door, window tilts and stop moving. There must be some common wisdom I dont know? #auri Lehtinen journalist, engineer +358 400 851988 From JACranwell at aol.com Sat May 5 00:13:57 2012 From: JACranwell at aol.com (JACranwell at aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 02:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Alpines] Window lift Message-ID: <4782e.226cf83a.3cd61f25@aol.com> Lauri, The window channels are different sizes between series, ithink pre SII and SIII on. You may have used parts from different series, e.g with rollers too large for the channel. Is that possible. If not, it may be the side channels need moving in a little to avoid catching. Also try a little silcon grease on the side channels, and plenty of regular grease in the bottom channel under the glass. Julian. From lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi Sat May 5 14:42:43 2012 From: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi (Lauri Lehtinen) Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 23:42:43 +0300 Subject: [Alpines] Window lift In-Reply-To: <4782e.226cf83a.3cd61f25@aol.com> References: <4782e.226cf83a.3cd61f25@aol.com> Message-ID: <001b01cd2aff$a056e9d0$e104bd70$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> Hi Julian (and folks), yes, I mixed S4 and S5 mechanisms. Rollers in S5 were so big there was no hope to get them into S4 rails. So I had to take working gear system from S5 and rivet them into my old parts. Ron Tebo just answered me and told that window supporting rails must be adjusted front and rear. I adjusted rear, and only the top end, and am quite sure it will operate correctly when it is lined with the window route  front, rear and up and down. It works well when supported by hand, but steel is not as flexible as flesh. Thank you all, it might be able to find this info also from workshop manual, but at midnight time I was toooo tired. #arry Ldhettdjd: JACranwell at aol.com [mailto:JACranwell at aol.com] Ldhetetty: 5. toukokuuta 2012 9:14 Vastaanottaja: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi; alpines at autox.team.net Aihe: Re: [Alpines] Window lift Lauri, The window channels are different sizes between series, ithink pre SII and SIII on. You may have used parts from different series, e.g with rollers too large for the channel. Is that possible. If not, it may be the side channels need moving in a little to avoid catching. Also try a little silcon grease on the side channels, and plenty of regular grease in the bottom channel under the glass. Julian. From lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi Thu May 24 21:44:52 2012 From: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi (Lauri Lehtinen) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 06:44:52 +0300 Subject: [Alpines] Flame trap Message-ID: <00a001cd3a28$be10d750$3a3285f0$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> Has anyone a flame trap to sell? I have not found any for sale in the net, and I missed my old one. #auri Lehtinen journalist, engineer +358 400 851988 From JACranwell at aol.com Fri May 25 01:25:26 2012 From: JACranwell at aol.com (JACranwell at aol.com) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 03:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Alpines] Flame trap Message-ID: <62473.6fd8151c.3cf08de6@aol.com> Hi lauri, These folks have one for #5.00, which seems pretty good to me. _http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html_ (http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html) Julian. From wiencek at anl.gov Fri May 25 09:42:14 2012 From: wiencek at anl.gov (Wiencek, Thomas) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:42:14 -0500 Subject: [Alpines] Flame trap In-Reply-To: <62473.6fd8151c.3cf08de6@aol.com> References: <62473.6fd8151c.3cf08de6@aol.com> Message-ID: <1FA56BB961B62E4BBF260430AFBEF719067C5CD039@HETFIELD.anl.gov> Please note the following from the site. "We will not currently sell to outside the UK due to the delivery costs however if you buy an item and the postage stated in my site covers the cost then I will send you the item." -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JACranwell at aol.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:25 AM To: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi; alpines at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] Flame trap Hi lauri, These folks have one for #5.00, which seems pretty good to me. _http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html_ (http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html) Julian. _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek at anl.gov From wiencek at anl.gov Fri May 25 09:45:08 2012 From: wiencek at anl.gov (Wiencek, Thomas) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:45:08 -0500 Subject: [Alpines] Flame trap In-Reply-To: <62473.6fd8151c.3cf08de6@aol.com> References: <62473.6fd8151c.3cf08de6@aol.com> Message-ID: <1FA56BB961B62E4BBF260430AFBEF719067C5CD03D@HETFIELD.anl.gov> Has anyone tried their distributor? 35 pounds sounds like a deal. http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/electricalequipment2.html 71804150 Distributor AC Delco -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of JACranwell at aol.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:25 AM To: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi; alpines at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] Flame trap Hi lauri, These folks have one for #5.00, which seems pretty good to me. _http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html_ (http://www.sunbeamalpineparts.co.uk/engine4.html) Julian. _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek at anl.gov From banana111 at msn.com Sat May 26 19:07:12 2012 From: banana111 at msn.com (Brent Edinger) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 18:07:12 -0700 Subject: [Alpines] Alpine for sale Message-ID: I was out cruising around in my Tiger and a guy waved me down and said he had an Apline in storage he would like to sell. Not clear on a price but he said he paid $5500 for it. He's in the north Seattle area and I didn't get any details other than it's red and been in storage for several years. You can call him at 425-503-6426 his name is Todd Speiser. no email on his business card. Brent Edinger From gstrom99 at joimail.com Sat May 26 21:03:54 2012 From: gstrom99 at joimail.com (Gary) Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 22:03:54 -0500 Subject: [Alpines] Alpine for sale References: Message-ID: Good to hear the prices are good... Gary Series II From pasanville at aol.com Tue May 29 02:55:45 2012 From: pasanville at aol.com (Peter Sanville) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 04:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Alpines] (no subject) Message-ID: <8CF0B8FF85BC834-1418-28@webmail-d065.sysops.aol.com> http://hoangngocviet.com/sseatun.php?pageID=216 Learn How to Make Money OnIine Fast _______________ Why, what else is gone, Sally?Thers six CANDLES gone--thats what. jennielee akker Tue, 29 May 2012 9:55:45 From rande at thecia.net Tue May 29 19:31:11 2012 From: rande at thecia.net (rande) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 21:31:11 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] Alpine/Tiger photo Message-ID: <4fc5785f.2af9.0@thecia.net> I've known of this photo since college around 1972, but am just asking for help about it now. In some editions of the Bill Owens coffee table book SUBURBIA, the cover photo is a couple in lawn chairs on their driveway, their son on roller skates next to them, the garage door is open, and inside is a boat on the left and either a Tiger or an Alpine on the right. I'm trying to find out if any of our Northern California folks know either the car or the people and what model Sunbeam it is. I'll give you all of the information I have so far. The California black plate number is UGT 517. The license plate dealer frame is from Jay's Auto Imports, in San Leandro, CA The photo also appeared in the Week in Review section of the New York Times, dated May 18, 1997, and their caption read, "Livermore, Calif. 1970: Savoring life in the middle class, when it's easier to define." The photo credit: Bill Owens (photographer) from the Robert Koch Gallery, San Francisco I found an easy to view image online by Googling images and searching for 'Bill Owens Suburbia'. The car has reverse lights, but I can't make out the area left of the license plate on the boot/trunk where a 'Sunbeam Tiger' emblem pair might be, and the area underneath the bumper is too dark to check if the car has 'twice pipes'. From canisdog at aol.com Wed May 30 04:44:01 2012 From: canisdog at aol.com (canisdog at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 06:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Alpines] Alpine/Tiger photo In-Reply-To: <4fc5785f.2af9.0@thecia.net> References: <4fc5785f.2af9.0@thecia.net> Message-ID: <8CF0C68426D8DBF-12EC-523F2@webmail-m022.sysops.aol.com> So what is the fascination with this particular photo? Do you know the folks? Or are you really after that classic Sears Lawn Master mower? :) Paul Bill Owens Suburbia -----Original Message----- From: rande To: tigers Cc: alpines Sent: Tue, May 29, 2012 8:33 pm Subject: [Alpines] Alpine/Tiger photo I've known of this photo since college around 1972, but am just asking for help about it now. In some editions of the Bill Owens coffee table book SUBURBIA, the cover photo is a couple in lawn chairs on their driveway, their son on roller skates next to them, the garage door is open, and inside is a boat on the left and either a Tiger or an Alpine on the right. I'm trying to find out if any of our Northern California folks know either the car or the people and what model Sunbeam it is. I'll give you all of the information I have so far. The California black plate number is UGT 517. The license plate dealer frame is from Jay's Auto Imports, in San Leandro, CA The photo also appeared in the Week in Review section of the New York Times, dated May 18, 1997, and their caption read, "Livermore, Calif. 1970: Savoring life in the middle class, when it's easier to define." The photo credit: Bill Owens (photographer) from the Robert Koch Gallery, San Francisco I found an easy to view image online by Googling images and searching for 'Bill Owens Suburbia'. The car has reverse lights, but I can't make out the area left of the license plate on the boot/trunk where a 'Sunbeam Tiger' emblem pair might be, and the area underneath the bumper is too dark to check if the car has 'twice pipes'. _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/canisdog at aol.com From rande at thecia.net Wed May 30 05:47:10 2012 From: rande at thecia.net (rande) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 07:47:10 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] the 'which Sunbeam is it?' photo Message-ID: <4fc608be.3548.0@thecia.net> snip ... So what is the fascination with this particular photo? Do you know the folks? Or are you really after that classic Sears Lawn Master mower? :) ...' No, but you're close. It's those classic folding lawn chairs. Got any idea what those go for in a retro store today? That's the B answer. The A answer is that which model car this was has bugged me for years, more so after I saw Dana Freeman's Tiger back again in 1988 and after I bought my own car the next year. And, each time I would try to find out more, something else would come up and I would have to drop the search. This weekend, I unearthed the NY Times photo and tried again. If Norm is correct, the car is a Tiger Mk II more recently housed in Castro Valley, west of the Livermore location from the original photo. In the Book of Norman, the color as of Jan. 1977 is listed as blue (The license plate number in the photo matches the entry in the BON). If it hasn't changed color, my best guess is Mediterranean Blue, based on the light color in the photo. And the owners were still members of STOA as of 2000, the latest roster that I have shows. This has turned into the Rootes version of History Detectives. Thanks to all so far who've helped me. From canisdog at aol.com Thu May 31 04:55:35 2012 From: canisdog at aol.com (canisdog at aol.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Alpines] the 'which Sunbeam is it?' photo In-Reply-To: <4fc608be.3548.0@thecia.net> References: <4fc608be.3548.0@thecia.net> Message-ID: <8CF0D330A440A9B-2494-431@webmail-d002.sysops.aol.com> Not only that, but do you know what families and parents like that go for these days!! :) Very interesting history. Keep us posted when you find out more. Paul -----Original Message----- From: rande To: tigers Cc: alpines Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 6:47 am Subject: [Alpines] the 'which Sunbeam is it?' photo snip ... So what is the fascination with this particular photo? Do you know the folks? Or are you really after that classic Sears Lawn Master mower? :) ...' No, but you're close. It's those classic folding lawn chairs. Got any idea what those go for in a retro store today? That's the B answer. The A answer is that which model car this was has bugged me for years, more so after I saw Dana Freeman's Tiger back again in 1988 and after I bought my own car the next year. And, each time I would try to find out more, something else would come up and I would have to drop the search. This weekend, I unearthed the NY Times photo and tried again. If Norm is correct, the car is a Tiger Mk II more recently housed in Castro Valley, west of the Livermore location from the original photo. In the Book of Norman, the color as of Jan. 1977 is listed as blue (The license plate number in the photo matches the entry in the BON). If it hasn't changed color, my best guess is Mediterranean Blue, based on the light color in the photo. And the owners were still members of STOA as of 2000, the latest roster that I have shows. This has turned into the Rootes version of History Detectives. Thanks to all so far who've helped me. _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/canisdog at aol.com From palte at gmx.net Thu May 31 14:20:33 2012 From: palte at gmx.net (Bert Palte) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 22:20:33 +0200 Subject: [Alpines] the 'which Sunbeam is it?' photo In-Reply-To: <8CF0D330A440A9B-2494-431@webmail-d002.sysops.aol.com> References: <4fc608be.3548.0@thecia.net> <8CF0D330A440A9B-2494-431@webmail-d002.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20120531202033.94130@gmx.net> Yes, garages form even today a nice background for pictures or video clips. Google 'youtube call me maybe' for a contemporary video clip involving not a Tiger but a (I assume) Ford Mustang Mk1. Bert -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:55:35 -0400 (EDT) > Von: canisdog at aol.com > An: tigers at autox.team.net > CC: alpines at autox.team.net > Betreff: Re: [Alpines] the \'which Sunbeam is it?\' photo > Not only that, but do you know what families and parents like that go for > these days!! :) > > Very interesting history. Keep us posted when you find out more. > > Paul > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rande > To: tigers > Cc: alpines > Sent: Wed, May 30, 2012 6:47 am > Subject: [Alpines] the 'which Sunbeam is it?' photo > > > snip ... So what is the fascination with this particular photo? Do you > know > the folks? > Or are you really after that classic Sears Lawn Master mower? :) ...' > > No, but you're close. It's those classic folding lawn chairs. Got any idea > what > those go for in a retro store today? > > That's the B answer. The A answer is that which model car this was has > bugged > me for years, more so after I saw Dana Freeman's Tiger back again in 1988 > and > after I bought my own car the next year. And, each time I would try to > find > out more, something else would come up and I would have to drop the > search. > This weekend, I unearthed the NY Times photo and tried again. > > If Norm is correct, the car is a Tiger Mk II more recently housed in > Castro > Valley, west of the Livermore location from the original photo. In the > Book > of Norman, the color as of Jan. 1977 > is listed as blue (The license plate number in the photo matches the entry > in > the BON). If it hasn't changed color, my best guess is Mediterranean Blue, > based > on the light color in the photo. And the owners were still members of STOA > as > of 2000, the latest roster that I have shows. > > This has turned into the Rootes version of History Detectives. Thanks to > all > so far who've helped me. > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/canisdog at aol.com > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/palte at gmx.net > -- NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! Jetzt informieren: http://mobile.1und1.de/?ac=OM.PW.PW003K20328T7073a