From ross_hulse at sbcglobal.net Fri Aug 3 13:51:17 2012 From: ross_hulse at sbcglobal.net (Philip Hulse) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 12:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Alpines] (no subject) Message-ID: <1344023477.17570.YahooMailNeo@web181001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> http://cpainchina.net/wp-content/plugins/zecivyuavfe/goog.php?escape225.jpg From rande at thecia.net Tue Aug 7 15:22:43 2012 From: rande at thecia.net (rande) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 17:22:43 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] Sports Car Forum article Message-ID: <50218723.6455.0@thecia.net> I just want to thank Steve Silverstein publically for a great article in Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car magazine for a terrific article on the Alpine and Tiger races campaigned by the Sports Car Forum dealership in Ohio in the 1960's. I know we were told that the article would be out, a few weeks ago, but it really is a must-read for anyone with an interest in our cars. Thanks, too, to Steve(the Alpine owner) and Buck Trippel(the Tiger owner) for taking good current custody of the two cars . Rande Bellman From lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi Wed Aug 8 00:36:09 2012 From: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi (Lauri Lehtinen) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 09:36:09 +0300 Subject: [Alpines] Sports Car Forum article In-Reply-To: <50218723.6455.0@thecia.net> References: <50218723.6455.0@thecia.net> Message-ID: <007801cd7530$196e2020$4c4a6060$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> I am afraid this magazine is not available in Europe? Larry Aihe: Re: [Alpines] Sports Car Forum article I just want to thank Steve Silverstein publically for a great article in Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car magazine for a terrific article on the Alpine and Tiger races campaigned by the Sports Car Forum dealership in Ohio in the 1960's. I know we were told that the article would be out, a few weeks ago, but it really is a must-read for anyone with an interest in our cars. Thanks, too, to Steve(the Alpine owner) and Buck Trippel(the Tiger owner) for taking good current custody of the two cars . Rande Bellman From achd73 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 8 23:08:01 2012 From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody) Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2012 22:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Message-ID: <1344488881.84009.YahooMailClassic@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Needed help locating an orginal S2 gas gauge. I freed the sending unit from the evaporating ersgas and years of setting and although they may not be the correct resistance numbres, at least there is a scale as the float rises and falls. I wanted to use a S5 gauge but that required wiring in the voltage stabiliser and knowing the difference in ohms from a S5 sending unit to a S2 and my Scothish friend prefers we use an orginal gauge which is great with me- I just want to work on my own projects. Im also having a problem stoping a leak between the two S5 carbs- I used an engine from a S5 parts car which Hughie had rebuilt but 3 different sets of carbs and they all leaked from the connecting tube- there has to be a fix Im not aware of. Any suggestions and help finding a working S2 gas gauge and info on stopping the leak is more than appreciated. THANKs in advance, Tony Lang (TtT) From peter at wizardclassics.co.uk Thu Aug 9 03:53:56 2012 From: peter at wizardclassics.co.uk (peter at wizardclassics.co.uk) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:53:56 +0100 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge References: <1344488881.84009.YahooMailClassic@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0F9AD3A8D45E42FFAA41617CFBA42BC6@peterspc> re s5 carbs: I have owned three s5s and had a problem with the T piece joining the carb fuel inlets on all of them. the eary t-piece was rubber, later they used a plastic one which, once it cracked, split right through very quickly (it happened to me just after I had filled the tank, and I dumped a tank-full of petrol on the road in the next 3 miles. I overcame the problem on that car with two lengths of flexible fuel pipe coming off the carbs "crossing over" joined with a home made metal t-piece then a flexible from the t-piece to the fuel pump. As I remember it required a few cable ties to keep it in a safe area of the engine bay. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Somebody" To: "Beamclub" Cc: "Alpine List" Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:08 AM Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge > Needed help locating an orginal S2 gas gauge. I freed the sending unit > from > the evaporating ersgas and years of setting and although they may not be > the > correct resistance numbres, at least there is a scale as the float rises > and > falls. I wanted to use a S5 gauge but that required wiring in the voltage > stabiliser and knowing the difference in ohms from a S5 sending unit to a > S2 and my Scothish friend prefers we use an orginal gauge which is great > with > me- I just want to work on my own projects. Im also having a problem > stoping a > leak between the two S5 carbs- I used an engine from a S5 parts car which > Hughie had rebuilt but 3 different sets of carbs and they all leaked from > the > connecting tube- there has to be a fix Im not aware of. Any suggestions > and > help finding a working S2 gas gauge and info on stopping the leak is more > than > appreciated. THANKs in advance, > > > Tony Lang (TtT) > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/peter at wizardclassics.co.uk > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5186 - Release Date: 08/08/12 From wiencek at anl.gov Thu Aug 9 07:47:59 2012 From: wiencek at anl.gov (Wiencek, Thomas) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:47:59 -0500 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge In-Reply-To: <1344488881.84009.YahooMailClassic@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1344488881.84009.YahooMailClassic@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1FA56BB961B62E4BBF260430AFBEF719067DD1F8D5@HETFIELD.anl.gov> I have heard of people using copper compression fittings to connect the carbs. Has anyone seen this fix? -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Somebody Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:08 AM To: Beamclub Cc: Alpine List Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Needed help locating an orginal S2 gas gauge. I freed the sending unit from the evaporating ersgas and years of setting and although they may not be the correct resistance numbres, at least there is a scale as the float rises and falls. I wanted to use a S5 gauge but that required wiring in the voltage stabiliser and knowing the difference in ohms from a S5 sending unit to a S2 and my Scothish friend prefers we use an orginal gauge which is great with me- I just want to work on my own projects. Im also having a problem stoping a leak between the two S5 carbs- I used an engine from a S5 parts car which Hughie had rebuilt but 3 different sets of carbs and they all leaked from the connecting tube- there has to be a fix Im not aware of. Any suggestions and help finding a working S2 gas gauge and info on stopping the leak is more than appreciated. THANKs in advance, Tony Lang (TtT) _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek at anl.gov From peter at wizardclassics.co.uk Thu Aug 9 08:18:18 2012 From: peter at wizardclassics.co.uk (peter at wizardclassics.co.uk) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:18:18 +0100 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge References: <1344488881.84009.YahooMailClassic@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1FA56BB961B62E4BBF260430AFBEF719067DD1F8D5@HETFIELD.anl.gov> Message-ID: I don't see how to do it. If you did it would make a rigid connection between the carb inlaet pipes which, I suspect would lead to a fracture somewhere in the aluminium casting (probably where the pipe fits. Many years ago I did look at fitting a right angled connector where the pipe fits (after I got the two flexible pipe system working), but there didn't seem to be enough metal to do it safely, the idea was to connect flexible pipes to those, joined with a y-piece to the pipe from the pump. I reckoned the easiest and most effective way was on each carb two lengths of 8mm brass tube (thick walled) joined together by a solder-type "plumbing" right angle bend, one piece threaded a convenient thread size, fitted with a lock nut, the existing pipe stud removed and the hole tapped to corespond to the thread on the pipe. Once the carbs are fitted to the manifold the outlet pipes can be positioned using the locknuts then connected as detailed above. I didn't have a spare carb on which to experiment, so never tried it! Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wiencek, Thomas" To: ; "Beamclub" Cc: "Alpine List" Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge >I have heard of people using copper compression fittings to connect the >carbs. > Has anyone seen this fix? > > -----Original Message----- > From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Tony Somebody > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:08 AM > To: Beamclub > Cc: Alpine List > Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge > > Needed help locating an orginal S2 gas gauge. I freed the sending unit > from > the evaporating ersgas and years of setting and although they may not be > the > correct resistance numbres, at least there is a scale as the float rises > and > falls. I wanted to use a S5 gauge but that required wiring in the voltage > stabiliser and knowing the difference in ohms from a S5 sending unit to a > S2 and my Scothish friend prefers we use an orginal gauge which is great > with > me- I just want to work on my own projects. Im also having a problem > stoping > a > leak between the two S5 carbs- I used an engine from a S5 parts car which > Hughie had rebuilt but 3 different sets of carbs and they all leaked from > the > connecting tube- there has to be a fix Im not aware of. Any suggestions > and > help finding a working S2 gas gauge and info on stopping the leak is more > than > appreciated. THANKs in advance, > > > Tony Lang (TtT) > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek at anl.gov > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/peter at wizardclassics.co.uk > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5188 - Release Date: 08/08/12 From cdpmbmengle at msn.com Thu Aug 9 08:28:58 2012 From: cdpmbmengle at msn.com (Chris Engle ) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:28:58 +0000 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Message-ID: I've done it. By shortening the two input tubes. Its tricky. Cross over hoses are better. Sent on the Sprint. Now Network from my BlackBerry. -----Original Message----- From: Wiencek Thomas Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:47:59 To: ; Cc: Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge I have heard of people using copper compression fittings to connect the carbs. Has anyone seen this fix? -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Somebody Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:08 AM To: Beamclub Cc: Alpine List Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Needed help locating an orginal S2 gas gauge. I freed the sending unit from the evaporating ersgas and years of setting and although they may not be the correct resistance numbres, at least there is a scale as the float rises and falls. I wanted to use a S5 gauge but that required wiring in the voltage stabiliser and knowing the difference in ohms from a S5 sending unit to a S2 and my Scothish friend prefers we use an orginal gauge which is great with me- I just want to work on my own projects. Im also having a problem stoping a leak between the two S5 carbs- I used an engine from a S5 parts car which Hughie had rebuilt but 3 different sets of carbs and they all leaked from the connecting tube- there has to be a fix Im not aware of. Any suggestions and help finding a working S2 gas gauge and info on stopping the leak is more than appreciated. THANKs in advance, Tony Lang (TtT) _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek at anl.gov _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/cdpmbmengle at msn.com From jacranwell at aol.com Thu Aug 9 08:41:07 2012 From: jacranwell at aol.com (jacranwell at aol.com) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:41:07 +0000 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <989830562-1344523392-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-193268830-@b13.c2.bise7.blackberry> The T piece is not the only issue. Gas leaks also occur from the float chamber gaskets and dried out Orings. I designed a heatshield between the induction and exhaust manifold, so any leaks roll back via a channel beyond the exhaust, so minimal risk of fire taking hold. I have a drawing with dimensions if anyone interested. JulianJulian Sent from my BlackBerryB. wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Chris Engle " Sender: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:28:58 To: Wiencek Thomas; achd73 at yahoo.com; tigers at autox.team.net Cc: alpines at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge I've done it. By shortening the two input tubes. Its tricky. Cross over hoses are better. Sent on the Sprint. Now Network from my BlackBerry. -----Original Message----- From: Wiencek Thomas Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:47:59 To: ; Cc: Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge I have heard of people using copper compression fittings to connect the carbs. Has anyone seen this fix? -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Somebody Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:08 AM To: Beamclub Cc: Alpine List Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Needed help locating an orginal S2 gas gauge. I freed the sending unit from the evaporating ersgas and years of setting and although they may not be the correct resistance numbres, at least there is a scale as the float rises and falls. I wanted to use a S5 gauge but that required wiring in the voltage stabiliser and knowing the difference in ohms from a S5 sending unit to a S2 and my Scothish friend prefers we use an orginal gauge which is great with me- I just want to work on my own projects. Im also having a problem stoping a leak between the two S5 carbs- I used an engine from a S5 parts car which Hughie had rebuilt but 3 different sets of carbs and they all leaked from the connecting tube- there has to be a fix Im not aware of. Any suggestions and help finding a working S2 gas gauge and info on stopping the leak is more than appreciated. THANKs in advance, Tony Lang (TtT) _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek at anl.gov _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/cdpmbmengle at msn.com _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/jacranwell at aol.com From kb9csw at juno.com Thu Aug 9 08:43:52 2012 From: kb9csw at juno.com (D W Spearing) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:43:52 GMT Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Message-ID: <20120809.144352.14764.0@webmail04.vgs.untd.com> Hi all, Yes, the brass "T" works fine and it is available in most any hardware store. I installed it on my S5 over 40 years ago and it is still holding. --- 73 de Dave KB9CSW David Wm Spearing kb9csw at juno.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Wiencek, Thomas" To: "achd73 at yahoo.com" , Beamclub Cc: Alpine List Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:47:59 -0500 I have heard of people using copper compression fittings to connect the carbs. Has anyone seen this fix? -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Somebody Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:08 AM To: Beamclub Cc: Alpine List Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Needed help locating an orginal S2 gas gauge. I freed the sending unit from the evaporating ersgas and years of setting and although they may not be the correct resistance numbres, at least there is a scale as the float rises and falls. I wanted to use a S5 gauge but that required wiring in the voltage stabiliser and knowing the difference in ohms from a S5 sending unit to a S2 and my Scothish friend prefers we use an orginal gauge which is great with me- I just want to work on my own projects. Im also having a problem stoping a leak between the two S5 carbs- I used an engine from a S5 parts car which Hughie had rebuilt but 3 different sets of carbs and they all leaked from the connecting tube- there has to be a fix Im not aware of. Any suggestions and help finding a working S2 gas gauge and info on stopping the leak is more than appreciated. THANKs in advance, Tony Lang (TtT) _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek at anl.gov _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/kb9csw at juno.com From mrtebo at shaw.ca Thu Aug 9 09:03:38 2012 From: mrtebo at shaw.ca (Mary and Ron Tebo) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:03:38 -0600 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge In-Reply-To: <1FA56BB961B62E4BBF260430AFBEF719067DD1F8D5@HETFIELD.anl.gov> References: <1344488881.84009.YahooMailClassic@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1FA56BB961B62E4BBF260430AFBEF719067DD1F8D5@HETFIELD.anl.gov> Message-ID: <5023D14A.5040406@shaw.ca> Tony,Tom, and Peter: After checking my archives, I found that several people have reported doing this, but Sergio said that this sometimes ruins the carb tubes, and recommends using teflon compression rings. He said the only drawback he has found is that the rings have to be replaced with each dis-assembly, but this is no great expense. There is a company in England that has taken over the Smiths guage business and still repairs and sells them. I think if you google Smiths, it will come up. Ron Tebo On Thursday09/08/12 7:47 AM, Wiencek, Thomas wrote: > I have heard of people using copper compression fittings to connect the carbs. > Has anyone seen this fix? > > -----Original Message----- > From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Tony Somebody > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:08 AM > To: Beamclub > Cc: Alpine List > Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge > > Needed help locating an orginal S2 gas gauge. I freed the sending unit from > the evaporating ersgas and years of setting and although they may not be the > correct resistance numbres, at least there is a scale as the float rises and > falls. I wanted to use a S5 gauge but that required wiring in the voltage > stabiliser and knowing the difference in ohms from a S5 sending unit to a > S2 and my Scothish friend prefers we use an orginal gauge which is great with > me- I just want to work on my own projects. Im also having a problem stoping > a > leak between the two S5 carbs- I used an engine from a S5 parts car which > Hughie had rebuilt but 3 different sets of carbs and they all leaked from the > connecting tube- there has to be a fix Im not aware of. Any suggestions and > help finding a working S2 gas gauge and info on stopping the leak is more > than > appreciated. THANKs in advance, > > > Tony Lang (TtT) > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek at anl.gov > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mrtebo at shaw.ca From lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi Thu Aug 9 09:34:16 2012 From: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi (Lauri Lehtinen) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:34:16 +0300 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge In-Reply-To: <989830562-1344523392-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-193268830-@b13.c2.bise7.blackberry> References: <989830562-1344523392-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-193268830-@b13.c2.bise7.blackberry> Message-ID: <00d601cd7644$70ff36c0$52fda440$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> I use a heatshield from a Baby 'cuda, but it tends to crack after decades of use. Kopio: alpines at autox.team.net Aihe: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge The T piece is not the only issue. Gas leaks also occur from the float chamber gaskets and dried out Orings. I designed a heatshield between the induction and exhaust manifold, so any leaks roll back via a channel beyond the exhaust, so minimal risk of fire taking hold. I have a drawing with dimensions if anyone interested. JulianJulian Sent from my BlackBerryB. wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Chris Engle " Sender: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:28:58 To: Wiencek Thomas; achd73 at yahoo.com; tigers at autox.team.net Cc: alpines at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge I've done it. By shortening the two input tubes. Its tricky. Cross over hoses are better. Sent on the Sprint. Now Network from my BlackBerry. -----Original Message----- From: Wiencek Thomas Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 13:47:59 To: ; Cc: Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge I have heard of people using copper compression fittings to connect the carbs. Has anyone seen this fix? -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Somebody Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:08 AM To: Beamclub Cc: Alpine List Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Needed help locating an orginal S2 gas gauge. I freed the sending unit from the evaporating ersgas and years of setting and although they may not be the correct resistance numbres, at least there is a scale as the float rises and falls. I wanted to use a S5 gauge but that required wiring in the voltage stabiliser and knowing the difference in ohms from a S5 sending unit to a S2 and my Scothish friend prefers we use an orginal gauge which is great with me- I just want to work on my own projects. Im also having a problem stoping a leak between the two S5 carbs- I used an engine from a S5 parts car which Hughie had rebuilt but 3 different sets of carbs and they all leaked from the connecting tube- there has to be a fix Im not aware of. Any suggestions and help finding a working S2 gas gauge and info on stopping the leak is more than appreciated. THANKs in advance, Tony Lang (TtT) _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek at anl.gov _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/cdpmbmengle at msn.com _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/jacranwell at aol.com _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi From peter at wizardclassics.co.uk Thu Aug 9 09:41:30 2012 From: peter at wizardclassics.co.uk (peter at wizardclassics.co.uk) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 16:41:30 +0100 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge References: <1344488881.84009.YahooMailClassic@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><1FA56BB961B62E4BBF260430AFBEF719067DD1F8D5@HETFIELD.anl.gov> <5023D14A.5040406@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <56BC24BDC8D5451299C3E70FF86473FE@peterspc> I have used Speedograph Richfield for tacho repair in the uk. http://www.speedograph-richfield.com/ Excellent service. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary and Ron Tebo" To: "Wiencek, Thomas" Cc: "alpines" Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge > Tony,Tom, and Peter: > > After checking my archives, I found that several people have reported > doing this, but Sergio said that this sometimes ruins the carb tubes, and > recommends using teflon compression rings. He said the only drawback he > has found is that the rings have to be replaced with each dis-assembly, > but this is no great expense. > There is a company in England that has taken over the Smiths guage > business and still repairs and sells them. I think if you google Smiths, > it will come up. > > Ron Tebo > > > On Thursday09/08/12 7:47 AM, Wiencek, Thomas wrote: >> I have heard of people using copper compression fittings to connect the >> carbs. >> Has anyone seen this fix? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of Tony Somebody >> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:08 AM >> To: Beamclub >> Cc: Alpine List >> Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge >> >> Needed help locating an orginal S2 gas gauge. I freed the sending unit >> from >> the evaporating ersgas and years of setting and although they may not be >> the >> correct resistance numbres, at least there is a scale as the float rises >> and >> falls. I wanted to use a S5 gauge but that required wiring in the voltage >> stabiliser and knowing the difference in ohms from a S5 sending unit to a >> S2 and my Scothish friend prefers we use an orginal gauge which is great >> with >> me- I just want to work on my own projects. Im also having a problem >> stoping >> a >> leak between the two S5 carbs- I used an engine from a S5 parts car >> which >> Hughie had rebuilt but 3 different sets of carbs and they all leaked from >> the >> connecting tube- there has to be a fix Im not aware of. Any suggestions >> and >> help finding a working S2 gas gauge and info on stopping the leak is more >> than >> appreciated. THANKs in advance, >> >> >> Tony Lang (TtT) >> _______________________________________________ >> Alpines at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $17.25 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek at anl.gov >> _______________________________________________ >> Alpines at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $17.25 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mrtebo at shaw.ca > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/peter at wizardclassics.co.uk > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5188 - Release Date: 08/08/12 From kb9csw at juno.com Thu Aug 9 09:50:12 2012 From: kb9csw at juno.com (D W Spearing) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 15:50:12 GMT Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Message-ID: <20120809.155012.25052.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Hi Jan, Here is a photo, which may answer your question. Generally it is a simple matter of taking the carbs off from the manifold and slipping the nuts and rings (I now would opt for the Teflon rings) onto the pipes with the "T" in place. Then remount the carbs and tighten up the nuts on the "T". A short chunk of copper tube in needed to connect the fuel line. Write back if you have further questions. --- 73 de Dave KB9CSW David Wm Spearing kb9csw at juno.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Jan Eyerman" To: "D W Spearing" Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 11:01:06 -0400 Dave, How do you connect the "T" to the carbs? Jan ------ Original Message ------ Received: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:55:14 AM EDT From: "D W Spearing" To: wiencek at anl.govCc: alpines at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Hi all, Yes, the brass "T" works fine and it is available in most any hardware store. I installed it on my S5 over 40 years ago and it is still holding. --- 73 de Dave KB9CSW David Wm Spearing kb9csw at juno.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Wiencek, Thomas" To: "achd73 at yahoo.com" , Beamclub Cc: Alpine List Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 08:47:59 -0500 I have heard of people using copper compression fittings to connect the carbs. Has anyone seen this fix? -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Somebody Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:08 AM To: Beamclub Cc: Alpine List Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Needed help locating an orginal S2 gas gauge. I freed the sending unit from the evaporating ersgas and years of setting and although they may not be the correct resistance numbres, at least there is a scale as the float rises and falls. I wanted to use a S5 gauge but that required wiring in the voltage stabiliser and knowing the difference in ohms from a S5 sending unit to a S2 and my Scothish friend prefers we use an orginal gauge which is great with me- I just want to work on my own projects. Im also having a problem stoping a leak between the two S5 carbs- I used an engine from a S5 parts car which Hughie had rebuilt but 3 different sets of carbs and they all leaked from the connecting tube- there has to be a fix Im not aware of. Any suggestions and help finding a working S2 gas gauge and info on stopping the leak is more than appreciated. THANKs in advance, Tony Lang (TtT) _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/wiencek at anl.gov _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/kb9csw at juno.com _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/jan.eyerman at usa.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From mrtebo at shaw.ca Thu Aug 9 10:07:54 2012 From: mrtebo at shaw.ca (Mary and Ron Tebo) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:07:54 -0600 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge In-Reply-To: <56BC24BDC8D5451299C3E70FF86473FE@peterspc> References: <1344488881.84009.YahooMailClassic@web160305.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1FA56BB961B62E4BBF260430AFBEF719067DD1F8D5@HETFIELD.anl.gov> <5023D14A.5040406@shaw.ca> <56BC24BDC8D5451299C3E70FF86473FE@peterspc> Message-ID: <5023E05A.70707@shaw.ca> On Thursday09/08/12 9:41 AM, peter at wizardclassics.co.uk wrote: > I have used Speedograph Richfield for tacho repair in the uk. > http://www.speedograph-richfield.com/ > Excellent service. > Pete > Pete: That's the firm I was thinking of! Ron Tebo From kb9csw at juno.com Thu Aug 9 11:46:02 2012 From: kb9csw at juno.com (D W Spearing) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 17:46:02 GMT Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Message-ID: <20120809.174602.24524.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Hi All, It looks like the photo did not make it! Perhaps it will this time. --- 73 de Dave KB9CSW David Wm Spearing kb9csw at juno.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] From marcsmall at comcast.net Thu Aug 9 12:06:11 2012 From: marcsmall at comcast.net (Marc James Small) Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:06:11 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Message-ID: I do have two of the nylon tee fittings available for sale, unused but original. Marc msmall at aya.yale.edu Cha robh b`s fir gun ghr`s fir! From peter at wizardclassics.co.uk Thu Aug 9 13:25:08 2012 From: peter at wizardclassics.co.uk (peter at wizardclassics.co.uk) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:25:08 +0100 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge References: <20120809.174602.24524.0@webmail01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: Don't think the group postings allow attachments! Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "D W Spearing" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge > Hi All, > > It looks like the photo did not make it! Perhaps it will this time. > > --- > 73 > de Dave KB9CSW > David Wm Spearing > kb9csw at juno.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/peter at wizardclassics.co.uk > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5189 - Release Date: 08/09/12 From jacranwell at aol.com Fri Aug 10 01:57:19 2012 From: jacranwell at aol.com (jacranwell at aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 07:57:19 +0000 Subject: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Message-ID: <1571641246-1344585433-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-947834488-@b13.c2.bise7.blackberry> No worries, I'll send direct to those interested. Julian ------Original Message------ From: peter at wizardclassics.co.uk Sender: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net To: D W Spearing To: jan.eyerman at usa.net Cc: alpines at autox.team.net ReplyTo: peter at wizardclassics.co.uk Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge Sent: 9 Aug 2012 20:25 Don't think the group postings allow attachments! Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "D W Spearing" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [Alpines] S2 gas gauge > Hi All, > > It looks like the photo did not make it! B Perhaps it will this time. > > --- > 73 > de Dave KB9CSW > David Wm Spearing > kb9csw at juno.com > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation B $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/peter at wizardclassics.co.uk > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5189 - Release Date: 08/09/12 _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation B $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/jacranwell at aol.com Sent from my BlackBerryB. wireless deviceSent from my BlackBerryB. wireless device From marcsmall at comcast.net Mon Aug 13 17:43:55 2012 From: marcsmall at comcast.net (Marc James Small) Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 19:43:55 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] Series V Things Available Message-ID: 1725 crankshaft. Condition unknown and I do not recall how I acquired this. Free if you pick it up (I am just south of Richmond, VA) and $750 if I have to ship. SOMEONE out in realityland must need a fresh crank! Two each, nylon tubes connecting the two CD 150 carburetters. US$ 75.00 each or make offer. I have a salvage yard of Rootes parts under my deck. Come and pick it up. 2 foot by 3 foot. I WILL balance your carbs -- but you come to me, and I charge. Marc It is a good world for doing good deeds. -- Nathaniel the Faun From lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi Sat Aug 18 04:29:01 2012 From: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi (Lauri Lehtinen) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 13:29:01 +0300 Subject: [Alpines] Alpine choco Message-ID: <008201cd7d2c$49551c40$dbff54c0$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> So sorry I can not send a photo to the list! I just found Ritter chocolate  Alpine Milk Chocolate. Just for us. #auri Lehtinen journalist, engineer +358 400 851988 From aballard at ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 21 12:13:06 2012 From: aballard at ix.netcom.com (Allan Ballard) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:13:06 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 Message-ID: <5033CFB2.5070408@ix.netcom.com> G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Party Platform By MICHAEL COOPER Even as the Republican establishment continued to call for Representative Todd Akin of Missouri to drop out of his Senate race because of his comments on rape and abortion, Republicans approved platform language on Tuesday calling for a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion with no explicit exceptions for cases of rape or incest. The anti-abortion plank, approved by the Republican platform committee Tuesday morning in Tampa, Fla., was similar to the planks Republicans have included in their recent party platforms, which also called for a constitutional ban on abortions. The full convention is set to vote on the partys platform on Monday. While Republican officials stressed that the plank did not go into granular details, saying that they were better left to the states, the language of the plank seems to leave little room for exceptions to the abortion ban. It states that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. Faithful to the self-evident truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed, said the draft platform language approved Tuesday, which was first reported by CNN. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendments protections apply to unborn children. The timing of the approval of the Republican anti-abortion plank was awkward for Mitt Romney, who has denounced Mr. Akins comments about rape and abortion and who has said that he supports exceptions to allow abortions in cases of rape. And it comes as his selection of his running mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, was already drawing scrutiny for his support for a more absolute ban on abortions, even in cases of rape or incest. But Mr. Romney would hardly be the first Republican nominee at odds with his partys more absolute opposition to abortion. Just four years ago, the Republican Party adopted a platform with a similar plank seeking an unconditional ban on abortion, even though its nominee, Senator John McCain of Arizona, had urged the party in the past to allow certain exceptions. George W. Bush also supported outlawing abortion except in cases of rape, incest, or when the life of the pregnant woman was in danger. After this years abortion plank language was approved with little debate, the chairman of the platform committee, Gov. Bob McDonnell of Virginia, praised the committee for affirming our respect for human life and for doing so expeditiously. From tom.hill at att.net Tue Aug 21 12:41:14 2012 From: tom.hill at att.net (Thomas Hill) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 In-Reply-To: <5033CFB2.5070408@ix.netcom.com> References: <5033CFB2.5070408@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <1345574474.11695.YahooMailRC@web180412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> So when did this email list become a political outlet? tom hill ________________________________ From: Allan Ballard To: Alpine List ; Rick Guest Sent: Tue, August 21, 2012 1:14:04 PM Subject: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Party Platform By MICHAEL COOPER Even as the Republican establishment continued to call for Representative Todd Akin of Missouri to drop out of his Senate race because of his comments on rape and abortion, Republicans approved platform language on Tuesday calling for a constitutional amendment outlawing abortion with no explicit exceptions for cases of rape or incest. The anti-abortion plank, approved by the Republican platform committee Tuesday morning in Tampa, Fla., was similar to the planks Republicans have included in their recent party platforms, which also called for a constitutional ban on abortions. The full convention is set to vote on the partys platform on Monday. While Republican officials stressed that the plank did not go into granular details, saying that they were better left to the states, the language of the plank seems to leave little room for exceptions to the abortion ban. It states that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. Faithful to the self-evident truths enshrined in the Declaration of Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed, said the draft platform language approved Tuesday, which was first reported by CNN. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendments protections apply to unborn children. The timing of the approval of the Republican anti-abortion plank was awkward for Mitt Romney, who has denounced Mr. Akins comments about rape and abortion and who has said that he supports exceptions to allow abortions in cases of rape. And it comes as his selection of his running mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, was already drawing scrutiny for his support for a more absolute ban on abortions, even in cases of rape or incest. But Mr. Romney would hardly be the first Republican nominee at odds with his partys more absolute opposition to abortion. Just four years ago, the Republican Party adopted a platform with a similar plank seeking an unconditional ban on abortion, even though its nominee, Senator John McCain of Arizona, had urged the party in the past to allow certain exceptions. George W. Bush also supported outlawing abortion except in cases of rape, incest, or when the life of the pregnant woman was in danger. After this years abortion plank language was approved with little debate, the chairman of the platform committee, Gov. Bob McDonnell of Virginia, praised the committee for affirming our respect for human life and for doing so expeditiously. _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/tom.hill at att.net From awtiger at cox.net Tue Aug 21 13:58:50 2012 From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger at cox.net) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:58:50 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 In-Reply-To: <5033CFB2.5070408@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <20120821155850.ZOXFH.770934.imail@fed1rmwml108> ...and this has to do with Alpines how??? Andy Walker Edmond, OK ---- Allan Ballard wrote: > G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Party Platform > > By MICHAEL COOPER > > Even as the Republican establishment continued to call for > Representative Todd Akin of Missouri to drop out of his Senate race > because of his comments on rape and abortion, Republicans approved > platform language on Tuesday calling for a constitutional amendment > outlawing abortion with no explicit exceptions for cases of rape or incest. > > The anti-abortion plank, approved by the Republican platform committee > Tuesday morning in Tampa, Fla., was similar to the planks Republicans > have included in their recent party platforms, which also called for a > constitutional ban on abortions. The full convention is set to vote on > the partys platform on Monday. > > While Republican officials stressed that the plank did not go into > granular details, saying that they were better left to the states, the > language of the plank seems to leave little room for exceptions to the > abortion ban. It states that the unborn child has a fundamental > individual right to life which cannot be infringed. > > Faithful to the self-evident truths enshrined in the Declaration of > Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the > unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be > infringed, said the draft platform language approved Tuesday, which was > first reported by CNN. We support a human life amendment to the > Constitution and endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth > Amendments protections apply to unborn children. > > The timing of the approval of the Republican anti-abortion plank was > awkward for Mitt Romney, who has denounced Mr. Akins comments about > rape and abortion and who has said that he supports exceptions to allow > abortions in cases of rape. And it comes as his selection of his running > mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, was already drawing > scrutiny for his support for a more absolute ban on abortions, even in > cases of rape or incest. > > But Mr. Romney would hardly be the first Republican nominee at odds with > his partys more absolute opposition to abortion. Just four years ago, > the Republican Party adopted a platform with a similar plank seeking an > unconditional ban on abortion, even though its nominee, Senator John > McCain of Arizona, had urged the party in the past to allow certain > exceptions. George W. Bush also supported outlawing abortion except in > cases of rape, incest, or when the life of the pregnant woman was in danger. > > After this years abortion plank language was approved with little > debate, the chairman of the platform committee, Gov. Bob McDonnell of > Virginia, praised the committee for affirming our respect for human > life and for doing so expeditiously. > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/awtiger at cox.net From lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi Tue Aug 21 14:16:58 2012 From: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi (Lauri Lehtinen) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:16:58 +0300 Subject: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 In-Reply-To: <20120821155850.ZOXFH.770934.imail@fed1rmwml108> References: <5033CFB2.5070408@ix.netcom.com> <20120821155850.ZOXFH.770934.imail@fed1rmwml108> Message-ID: <009001cd7fd9$eb6fdce0$c24f96a0$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> And after this, I will vote here in Finland only pure alpinists to the US. congress. But, let us be happy. We still have cabriolet season at the northern sphere! -----Alkuperdinen viesti-----...and this has to do with Alpines how??? Andy Walker Edmond, OK ---- Allan Ballard wrote: > G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Party Platform > > By MICHAEL COOPER > > Even as the Republican establishment continued to call for From bmounce at rcn.com Tue Aug 21 14:21:14 2012 From: bmounce at rcn.com (Bill Mounce) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:21:14 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 In-Reply-To: <009001cd7fd9$eb6fdce0$c24f96a0$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> References: <5033CFB2.5070408@ix.netcom.com> <20120821155850.ZOXFH.770934.imail@fed1rmwml108> <009001cd7fd9$eb6fdce0$c24f96a0$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> Message-ID: <01c201cd7fda$835d99c0$8a18cd40$@com> Be careful Lauri.. every Congressman we displace with Alpinists get sent to Finland! So sorry! Bill Mounce P.S. I really dig 'Alpinist'! Makes me feel special! -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lauri Lehtinen Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 4:17 PM To: awtiger at cox.net; aballard at ix.netcom.com; 'Alpine List'; 'Rick Guest' Subject: Re: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 And after this, I will vote here in Finland only pure alpinists to the US. congress. But, let us be happy. We still have cabriolet season at the northern sphere! -----Alkuperdinen viesti-----...and this has to do with Alpines how??? Andy Walker Edmond, OK ---- Allan Ballard wrote: > G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Party Platform > > By MICHAEL COOPER > > Even as the Republican establishment continued to call for _______________________________________________ Alpines at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/bmounce at rcn.com From lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi Tue Aug 21 14:39:57 2012 From: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi (Lauri Lehtinen) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 23:39:57 +0300 Subject: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 In-Reply-To: <01c201cd7fda$835d99c0$8a18cd40$@com> References: <5033CFB2.5070408@ix.netcom.com> <20120821155850.ZOXFH.770934.imail@fed1rmwml108> <009001cd7fd9$eb6fdce0$c24f96a0$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> <01c201cd7fda$835d99c0$8a18cd40$@com> Message-ID: <009101cd7fdd$21b2fa50$6518eef0$@lauri@kolumbus.fi> Well, we in Finland don't have even mountains, and not at least any Alps. To have alpinists or congressmen with moderate displacement (1500, 1600 or 1725 cc?) is not a big deal in this awful economical-climate-depression we have coming. Those Lehmann brothers did not have even one Sunbeam in their collection? -----Alkuperdinen viesti----- Ldhettdjd: Bill Mounce [mailto:bmounce at rcn.com] Be careful Lauri.. every Congressman we displace with Alpinists get sent to Finland! So sorry! Bill Mounce P.S. I really dig 'Alpinist'! Makes me feel special! From aballard at ix.netcom.com Tue Aug 21 14:50:54 2012 From: aballard at ix.netcom.com (Allan Ballard) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:50:54 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 In-Reply-To: <5033CFB2.5070408@ix.netcom.com> References: <5033CFB2.5070408@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <5033F4AE.2020009@ix.netcom.com> I apologize to the list for this email. I thought it went to a friend in Ireland who is interested in the topic and am very embarrassed that it went to the Alpine list. Mea culpa, mea culpa. Allan Ballard Atlanta, GA USA On 8/21/12 2:13 PM, Allan Ballard wrote: > G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Party Platform > > By MICHAEL COOPER From mototron at optonline.net Tue Aug 21 19:02:28 2012 From: mototron at optonline.net (Mototron) Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:02:28 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 In-Reply-To: <1345574474.11695.YahooMailRC@web180412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <5033CFB2.5070408@ix.netcom.com> <1345574474.11695.YahooMailRC@web180412.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <50342FA4.3090104@optonline.net> Keep your opinions to your self and off this list On 8/21/2012 2:41 PM, Thomas Hill wrote: > So when did this email list become a political outlet? > > tom hill > ________________________________ > From: Allan Ballard > To: Alpine List ; Rick Guest > Sent: Tue, August 21, 2012 1:14:04 PM > Subject: [Alpines] legitimate rape - > round 2 > > G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Party Platform > > By > MICHAEL COOPER > > Even as the Republican establishment continued to call for > Representative Todd > Akin of Missouri to drop out of his Senate race because > of his comments on rape > and abortion, Republicans approved platform language > on Tuesday calling for a > constitutional amendment outlawing abortion with no > explicit exceptions for > cases of rape or incest. > > The anti-abortion plank, > approved by the Republican platform committee Tuesday > morning in Tampa, Fla., > was similar to the planks Republicans have included in > their recent party > platforms, which also called for a constitutional ban on > abortions. The full > convention is set to vote on the partys platform on Monday. > > While Republican > officials stressed that the plank did not go into granular > details, saying > that they were better left to the states, the language of the > plank seems to > leave little room for exceptions to the abortion ban. It states > that the > unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be > infringed. > > Faithful to the self-evident truths enshrined in the Declaration > of > Independence, we assert the sanctity of human life and affirm that the > unborn > child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be > infringed, said > the draft platform language approved Tuesday, which was first > reported by CNN. > We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and > endorse legislation to > make clear that the Fourteenth Amendments protections > apply to unborn children. > > The timing of the approval of the Republican > anti-abortion plank was awkward for > Mitt Romney, who has denounced Mr. Akins > comments about rape and abortion and > who has said that he supports exceptions > to allow abortions in cases of rape. > And it comes as his selection of his > running mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan > of Wisconsin, was already drawing > scrutiny for his support for a more absolute > ban on abortions, even in cases > of rape or incest. > > But Mr. Romney would hardly be the first Republican > nominee at odds with his > partys more absolute opposition to abortion. Just > four years ago, the Republican > Party adopted a platform with a similar plank > seeking an unconditional ban on > abortion, even though its nominee, Senator > John McCain of Arizona, had urged the > party in the past to allow certain > exceptions. George W. Bush also supported > outlawing abortion except in cases > of rape, incest, or when the life of the > pregnant woman was in danger. > > After > this years abortion plank language was approved with little debate, the > chairman of the platform committee, Gov. Bob McDonnell of Virginia, praised > the > committee for affirming our respect for human life and for doing so > expeditiously. > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested > annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/tom.hill at att.net > _______________________________________________ > Alpines at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $17.25 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/mototron at optonline.net From achd73 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 22 10:38:37 2012 From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody) Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 In-Reply-To: <5033F4AE.2020009@ix.netcom.com> References: <5033CFB2.5070408@ix.netcom.com> <5033F4AE.2020009@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <1345653517.70030.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Hey we all mess up- U didnt hurt anyone. Forget about it!!! Tony Lang (TtT) >________________________________ > From: Allan Ballard >To: aballard at ix.netcom.com >Cc: Alpine List ; Rick Guest >Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:50 PM >Subject: Re: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 > >I apologize to the list for this email. > >I thought it went to a friend in Ireland who is interested in the topic >and am very embarrassed that it went to the Alpine list. > >Mea culpa, mea culpa. > >Allan Ballard >Atlanta, GA USA > > >On 8/21/12 2:13 PM, Allan Ballard wrote: >> G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Party Platform >> >> By MICHAEL COOPER >_______________________________________________ >Alpines at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $17.25 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/achd73 at yahoo.com From sunnbeam at aol.com Thu Aug 23 09:11:18 2012 From: sunnbeam at aol.com (sunnbeam at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 11:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Alpines] Alpines Digest, Vol 6, Issue 42 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CF4F58AE6370D5-15B0-2694@webmail-m037.sysops.aol.com> Thankx for the honesty, it's appreciated. George -----Original Message----- From: alpines-request To: alpines Sent: Wed, Aug 22, 2012 2:05 pm Subject: Alpines Digest, Vol 6, Issue 42 Send Alpines mailing list submissions to alpines at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/alpines or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to alpines-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at alpines-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Alpines digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: legitimate rape - round 2 (Tony Somebody) Attached Message From: Tony Somebody To: aballard at ix.netcom.com Cc: Alpine List ; Rick Guest Subject: Re: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 09:38:37 -0700 (PDT) Hey we all mess up- U didnt hurt anyone. Forget about it!!! Tony Lang (TtT) >________________________________ > From: Allan Ballard >To: aballard at ix.netcom.com >Cc: Alpine List ; Rick Guest >Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:50 PM >Subject: Re: [Alpines] legitimate rape - round 2 > >I apologize to the list for this email. > >I thought it went to a friend in Ireland who is interested in the topic >and am very embarrassed that it went to the Alpine list. > >Mea culpa, mea culpa. > >Allan Ballard >Atlanta, GA USA > > >On 8/21/12 2:13 PM, Allan Ballard wrote: >> G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-Abortion Language in Party Platform >> >> By MICHAEL COOPER >_______________________________________________ >Alpines at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $17.25 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/achd73 at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Alpines mailing list Alpines at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/alpines