From achd73 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  9 01:00:52 2011
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 00:00:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Alpines] Rapier on BaT
Message-ID: <732031.66210.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/06/07/1959-sunbeam-rapier-mk2/
This link was from BringATrailer on Wed. NICE Rapier pictured at the bottom of Wed. email and the link has a pic and comments from non Beam peeps and a knowledgeable person of two. Hope the link works.
TtT

From william.lewis at ucdmc.ucdavis.edu  Sun Jun 12 20:50:43 2011
From: william.lewis at ucdmc.ucdavis.edu (William Lewis)
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:50:43 -0700
Subject: [Alpines] bill atalla
Message-ID: <OF9BCC5720.C7B4CF95-ON882578AE.000EC90D-882578AE.000FA175@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu>

There is an article in this months Hagerty magazine stating that Bill 
Atalla has built a 165 hp Alpine motor.  Anybody know what mods he used? 
It would be nice to know what mods get you the biggest bump for the buck. 
I have rebuilt my series II car with a 1725 cc motor bored to 0.030 over, 
balanced, ported with the dual exhaust off the early series cars. I have 
an electronic ignition and built an adapter to use the early series 
distributor in the series V block.  I drive my car for fun and I don't 
want to put the $150,000 in my car that Bill put into his.  That would 
definitely impact the fun factor.

I am still using the old Zenith twin carbs with the log manifold.  I would 
like to go with twin side draught carbs but I don't want to have to twist 
the block or relocate the firewall components.  I would also like to have 
a carb that can still use the vacuum advance.  Anyone know of a way to do 
that?

Apparently, Bill wrote a book "Race Car in the Making" and is launching a 
website www.buildyourclassiccar.com  The site is currently under 
construction and I don't see the book on Amazon.

Bill Lewis

From rootesrooter at aol.com  Mon Jun 13 09:32:09 2011
From: rootesrooter at aol.com (RootesRooter)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 11:32:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Alpines] bill atalla
In-Reply-To: <OF9BCC5720.C7B4CF95-ON882578AE.000EC90D-882578AE.000FA175@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu>
References: <OF9BCC5720.C7B4CF95-ON882578AE.000EC90D-882578AE.000FA175@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <8CDF7F630F0A659-14CC-1BF22@Webmail-d119.sysops.aol.com>

When you say "ported", did you do the "Vizard" mod to the combustion chambers?
Highly recommended.

Then, throw a "KB" grind cam from Delta Cam in Tacoma, Wash into your 1725 and
call it good.  Best $50 you'll ever spend.

Beyond that, you're looking at much more expensive mods, like Chevy rods,
roller rockers, etc.  Also, if you're just driving it for fun, you don't want
a rolling grenede.





-----Original Message-----
From: William Lewis <william.lewis at ucdmc.ucdavis.edu>
To: alpines <alpines at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Jun 12, 2011 10:46 pm
Subject: [Alpines] bill atalla


There is an article in this months Hagerty magazine stating that Bill
talla has built a 165 hp Alpine motor.  Anybody know what mods he used?
t would be nice to know what mods get you the biggest bump for the buck.
 have rebuilt my series II car with a 1725 cc motor bored to 0.030 over,
alanced, ported with the dual exhaust off the early series cars. I have
n electronic ignition and built an adapter to use the early series
istributor in the series V block.  I drive my car for fun and I don't
ant to put the $150,000 in my car that Bill put into his.  That would
efinitely impact the fun factor.
I am still using the old Zenith twin carbs with the log manifold.  I would
ike to go with twin side draught carbs but I don't want to have to twist
he block or relocate the firewall components.  I would also like to have
 carb that can still use the vacuum advance.  Anyone know of a way to do
hat?
Apparently, Bill wrote a book "Race Car in the Making" and is launching a
ebsite www.buildyourclassiccar.com  The site is currently under
onstruction and I don't see the book on Amazon.
Bill Lewis
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From jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk  Mon Jun 13 09:39:31 2011
From: jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk (jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 16:39:31 +0100
Subject: [Alpines] SPAM from Tony
In-Reply-To: <239429.7349.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E1QW9Eh-000G4n-U5@pr-webmail-1.mail.demon.net>

Guys 

I sm guessing that this email is not from Tony..................

TONY - if it IS from you, call me on + 44 7850 8721620

regards

Jeff H

copied to alpines and tigers just in case.


achd73 at yahoo.com wrote:
> Hope you get this on time, sorry I didn't inform you about my trip in Spain for a Program, I'm presently in Madrid and am having some difficulties here because i  misplaced my wallet on my way to the hotel where my money and other valuable things were kept. presently  i have limited access to internet, I will like you to assist  me with a loan of 2,600 Euros to sort-out my hotel bills and to get myself back home.
> 
> I have spoken to the embassy here but they are not responding to the matter effectively, I will appreciate whatever you can afford to assist me with, I'll Refund the  money back to you as soon as I return, let me know if you can be of any help. I don't have a phone where I can be reached. Please let me know immediately.
> 
> Best regards
>    Tony

From mototron at optonline.net  Mon Jun 13 15:20:32 2011
From: mototron at optonline.net (Mototron)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 17:20:32 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] bill atalla
Message-ID: <4DF67F20.9070603@optonline.net>

If you do Vizard and open up the chambers  and not mill the the head
to reduce the chamber size your compression will be so low that the 
motor will have less
HP than when you started

On my Alpine I run flat top Pistons with mildly ported head   with 
modified chambers
and a Isky racing cam stock valve train ,about 12:1 comp with series II 
Header and 2" Exhaust
I had twin side draft Mikuni 44 carbs on for one season  but I was 
allways put in  the faster class becasue of
the carbs (alfa spiders /911s /lotus) which were quite a bit faster than I

So I took a 2 barrel downdraft manifold from a series iV and modified it 
to fit a 2 Barrel Rochester 2G
which is 500 CFM and I allso had a few of them on the shelf
I also modified the carb to use Holley Jets which are abundant
After a few practice races and jetting ,the alpine runs a little faster 
times
does about 7200 rpms  and I get to run in a class with cars my speed
alot more fun

I believe the the 500 cfm  2 barrel can  flow more air than my head can
therefore the sidedrafts  were over kill

Rocco
  61 Alpine #86  VRG

From william.lewis at ucdmc.ucdavis.edu  Mon Jun 13 16:45:15 2011
From: william.lewis at ucdmc.ucdavis.edu (William Lewis)
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:45:15 -0700
Subject: [Alpines] engine mods
Message-ID: <OF12934887.80BEFC02-ON882578AE.007AC6C5-882578AE.007CFE1A@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu>

I did use the KB grind on my camshaft.  The head was decked because it had 
rotted out and had to be welded.  I have to run supreme to prevent the 
knocking.  I didn't know anything about the Vizard grind.  Good thing to 
know.  If the head ever comes back off, I will make that change.

 I have the twin Zeniths and I put in the larger choke tubes (30 mm) and 
jets.  Going to the larger choke tubes and jets hurt the bottom end pull 
but helped the top end.  The car still feels like it is starving at the 
high end and it would be nice to have carbs where I can rejet them easily 
to play with various combinations.  Some folks think the Weber 28/36 is 
the best set up.  A friend of mine is running ICTs that he dropped onto 
the log manifold.  I am assuming that much of the problem with the log 
manifold setup is the log manifold.  I can't see that thing flowing well 
even though I cleaned mine up and tried to match it to the head best I 
could.

Is there a website where all this great Alpine knowledge is posted? 
Searching through the newsgroup archives is not easy.

Bill Lewis
FrankenSeries II

From edsonh2000 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 19 19:45:25 2011
From: edsonh2000 at yahoo.com (Ed Howard)
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 18:45:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Alpines] Sunbeams spotted in Beverly Hills, CA
Message-ID: <293531.73046.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi folks:
 
I was in Beverly Hills, CA today with my kids for Father's Day to attend the
annual classic car show on Rodeo Drive there.
 
After the show, we drove around the mansions of Beverly Hills and I was
surprised to be followed and then pass at least five or six Sunbeams in a
cruise.
 
It was great to see the Beams amongst the rich and famous! I tried to catch up
with them to say hello but could not.
 
Which club was sponsoring this rally?
 
If I had known, I might have tried to join in.
 
Ed Howard
Orange County, CA
67 Alpine Series V

From rande at thecia.net  Thu Jun 23 19:15:49 2011
From: rande at thecia.net (rande)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:15:49 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] Boston's British Car Day
Message-ID: <4e03e545.2d9d.0@thecia.net>

Hey, Folks!  Its time for British Car Day in Brookline MA again!  Sunday,
June
26!  They say 10:00 AM to 2:00 PM, but we know the cars start rolling in much
earlier.  Some say the Jaguar guys get there before dawn



But anyway, here are the details:



http://www.larzanderson.org/Topics/Topic.cfm?TopicName=Show%20Event&CalendarE
ventId=135




As usual, TE/AE is helping run it, directing parking this year.  We could
always
use another helper or two, so come early if you can.  Come early anyway, the
weather is supposed to be good, so the place should be packed!  Join the 200
or more British cars dripping oil on the museum lawn!



See you there!



Stu Brennan    stubrennan at comcast.net

TE/AE New England Regional Rep.

Rande Bellman

Just a Sunbeam Dude

From jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk  Tue Jun 28 16:58:18 2011
From: jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk (Jeff Howarth)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:58:18 +0100
Subject: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............
Message-ID: <WtN0jWBKylCOFwC4@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>

Here is an interesting sunbeam, a few similarities to Mayfs record 
holder:


http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/cto/2462003843.html



and only $50,000

Jeff



-- 
Jeff Howarth

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue Jun 28 18:26:02 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 17:26:02 -0700
Subject: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............
In-Reply-To: <WtN0jWBKylCOFwC4@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
References: <WtN0jWBKylCOFwC4@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4E0A711A.3000103@mayfco.com>

There you go!  Buy it, add another 30 grand for go fast stuff and you 
too can have a salt racer!  I'll help whoever buys it!

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 6/28/2011 3:58 PM, Jeff Howarth wrote:
> Here is an interesting sunbeam, a few similarities to Mayfs record 
> holder:
>
>
> http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/cto/2462003843.html
>
>
>
> and only $50,000
>
> Jeff

From cdpmbmengle at msn.com  Tue Jun 28 18:57:09 2011
From: cdpmbmengle at msn.com (Chris Engle)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:57:09 -0600
Subject: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............
In-Reply-To: <WtN0jWBKylCOFwC4@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
	<4E0A711A.3000103@mayfco.com>
References: <WtN0jWBKylCOFwC4@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
	<4E0A711A.3000103@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <SNT139-ds18E401BA9A23576496C3EB5590@phx.gbl>

with the 30 grand........????????
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Larry Mayfield<mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com>
  To: alpines at autox.team.net<mailto:alpines at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............


  There you go!  Buy it, add another 30 grand for go fast stuff and you
  too can have a salt racer!  I'll help whoever buys it!

  mayf

  ______________________________
  drmayf
  Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
  204.913 mph flying mile
  210.779 mph exit speed


  On 6/28/2011 3:58 PM, Jeff Howarth wrote:
  > Here is an interesting sunbeam, a few similarities to Mayfs record
  > holder:
  >
  >
  >
http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/cto/2462003843.html<http://bakersfield.crai
gslist.org/cto/2462003843.html>
  >
  >
  >
  > and only $50,000
  >
  > Jeff
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue Jun 28 19:32:23 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:32:23 -0700
Subject: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............
In-Reply-To: <SNT139-ds18E401BA9A23576496C3EB5590@phx.gbl>
References: <WtN0jWBKylCOFwC4@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
	<4E0A711A.3000103@mayfco.com>
	<SNT139-ds18E401BA9A23576496C3EB5590@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4E0A80A7.9050603@mayfco.com>

The car in the listing is not race ready. Has to have a specific made 
roll cage, HANS , lateral head supports, a funny car cage. Then there is 
the fire systems, 5 lb bottle for the motor , 10 pounds for the driver. 
Then the tires, 400 bucks apiece,  more for the high speed wheels. Motor 
must be putting out more than 500 hp to go faster than teh 210 exit 
speed I posted. Need race suspension front and rear. Need a parachute, 
need a funny car drivers suit. Motor will cost plenty since you will be 
driving up to 5 miles at almost full boogie and that takes some reliable 
parts internally which also must make power. Plus a lot of small 
unmentioned items. Need to add weight to the car because the short wheel 
base is a bear to drive. I have 18 degrees of caster so that will 
require changes in the steering system and suspension.  Now addin a 
generous amount of work at 0 bucks or more per hour to make it all 
happen.  This car was a show car that was "inspired by speed", not that 
it was a race car.  It is a show car lacking the goodies to go really 
fast.  IMHO. YMMV, lol..

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 6/28/2011 5:57 PM, Chris Engle wrote:
> with the 30 grand........????????
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Larry Mayfield <mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com>
>     *To:* alpines at autox.team.net <mailto:alpines at autox.team.net>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:26 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............
>
>     There you go!  Buy it, add another 30 grand for go fast stuff and you
>     too can have a salt racer!  I'll help whoever buys it!
>
>     mayf
>
>     ______________________________
>     drmayf
>     Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>     204.913 mph flying mile
>     210.779 mph exit speed
>
>
>     On 6/28/2011 3:58 PM, Jeff Howarth wrote:
>     > Here is an interesting sunbeam, a few similarities to Mayfs record
>     > holder:
>     >
>     >
>     > http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/cto/2462003843.html
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > and only $50,000
>     >
>     > Jeff
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From cdpmbmengle at msn.com  Tue Jun 28 19:42:35 2011
From: cdpmbmengle at msn.com (Chris Engle)
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:42:35 -0600
Subject: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............
In-Reply-To: <WtN0jWBKylCOFwC4@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
	<4E0A711A.3000103@mayfco.com>
	<SNT139-ds18E401BA9A23576496C3EB5590@phx.gbl>
	<4E0A80A7.9050603@mayfco.com>
References: <WtN0jWBKylCOFwC4@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
	<4E0A711A.3000103@mayfco.com>
	<SNT139-ds18E401BA9A23576496C3EB5590@phx.gbl>
	<4E0A80A7.9050603@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <SNT139-ds184F9BA60DB06986B3C1C8B5590@phx.gbl>

yes....this one is all show and very little go...
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Larry Mayfield<mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com>
  To: Chris Engle<mailto:cdpmbmengle at msn.com>
  Cc: alpines at autox.team.net<mailto:alpines at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:32 PM
  Subject: Re: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............


  The car in the listing is not race ready. Has to have a specific made roll
cage, HANS , lateral head supports, a funny car cage. Then there is the fire
systems, 5 lb bottle for the motor , 10 pounds for the driver. Then the tires,
400 bucks apiece,  more for the high speed wheels. Motor must be putting out
more than 500 hp to go faster than teh 210 exit speed I posted. Need race
suspension front and rear. Need a parachute, need a funny car drivers suit.
Motor will cost plenty since you will be driving up to 5 miles at almost full
boogie and that takes some reliable parts internally which also must make
power. Plus a lot of small unmentioned items. Need to add weight to the car
because the short wheel base is a bear to drive. I have 18 degrees of caster
so that will require changes in the steering system and suspension.  Now addin
a generous amount of work at 0 bucks or more per hour to make it all happen.
This car was a show car that was "inspired by speed", not that it was a race
car.  It is a show car lacking the goodies to go really fast.  IMHO. YMMV,
lol..

  mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed
  On 6/28/2011 5:57 PM, Chris Engle wrote:
    with the 30 grand........????????
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Larry Mayfield<mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com>
      To: alpines at autox.team.net<mailto:alpines at autox.team.net>
      Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:26 PM
      Subject: Re: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............


      There you go!  Buy it, add another 30 grand for go fast stuff and you
      too can have a salt racer!  I'll help whoever buys it!

      mayf

      ______________________________
      drmayf
      Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
      204.913 mph flying mile
      210.779 mph exit speed


      On 6/28/2011 3:58 PM, Jeff Howarth wrote:
      > Here is an interesting sunbeam, a few similarities to Mayfs record
      > holder:
      >
      >
      >
http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/cto/2462003843.html<http://bakersfield.crai
gslist.org/cto/2462003843.html>
      >
      >
      >
      > and only $50,000
      >
      > Jeff
      _______________________________________________
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From jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk  Wed Jun 29 00:03:14 2011
From: jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk (Jeff Howarth)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:03:14 +0100
Subject: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............
In-Reply-To: <4E0A80A7.9050603@mayfco.com>
References: <WtN0jWBKylCOFwC4@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
	<4E0A711A.3000103@mayfco.com>
	<SNT139-ds18E401BA9A23576496C3EB5590@phx.gbl>
	<4E0A80A7.9050603@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <ukHqB8BiAsCOFwVT@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>

Hi Mayf,

I think FUNNY car sum sup the car for sale.

Far removed from yours in terms of performance ability.

I just thought the Sunbeam gang would be amused by it.


Jeff





In message <4E0A80A7.9050603 at mayfco.com>, Larry Mayfield 
<drmayf at mayfco.com> writes
>The car in the listing is not race ready. Has to have a specific made
>roll cage, HANS , lateral head supports, a funny car cage. Then there is
>the fire systems, 5 lb bottle for the motor , 10 pounds for the driver.
>Then the tires, 400 bucks apiece,  more for the high speed wheels. Motor
>must be putting out more than 500 hp to go faster than teh 210 exit
>speed I posted. Need race suspension front and rear. Need a parachute,
>need a funny car drivers suit. Motor will cost plenty since you will be
>driving up to 5 miles at almost full boogie and that takes some reliable
>parts internally which also must make power. Plus a lot of small
>unmentioned items. Need to add weight to the car because the short wheel
>base is a bear to drive. I have 18 degrees of caster so that will
>require changes in the steering system and suspension.  Now addin a
>generous amount of work at 0 bucks or more per hour to make it all
>happen.  This car was a show car that was "inspired by speed", not that
>it was a race car.  It is a show car lacking the goodies to go really
>fast.  IMHO. YMMV, lol..
>
>mayf
>
>______________________________
>drmayf
>Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>204.913 mph flying mile
>210.779 mph exit speed
>
>
>On 6/28/2011 5:57 PM, Chris Engle wrote:
>> with the 30 grand........????????
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* Larry Mayfield <mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com>
>>     *To:* alpines at autox.team.net <mailto:alpines at autox.team.net>
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:26 PM
>>     *Subject:* Re: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............
>>
>>     There you go!  Buy it, add another 30 grand for go fast stuff and you
>>     too can have a salt racer!  I'll help whoever buys it!
>>
>>     mayf
>>
>>     ______________________________
>>     drmayf
>>     Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>>     204.913 mph flying mile
>>     210.779 mph exit speed
>>
>>
>>     On 6/28/2011 3:58 PM, Jeff Howarth wrote:
>>     > Here is an interesting sunbeam, a few similarities to Mayfs record
>>     > holder:
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/cto/2462003843.html
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > and only $50,000
>>     >
>>     > Jeff
>>     _______________________________________________
>>     Alpines at autox.team.net <mailto:Alpines at autox.team.net>
>>     Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>     Suggested annual donation  $17.25
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From wiencek at anl.gov  Wed Jun 29 07:22:52 2011
From: wiencek at anl.gov (Wiencek, Thomas)
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:22:52 -0500
Subject: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............
In-Reply-To: <ukHqB8BiAsCOFwVT@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
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	<4E0A711A.3000103@mayfco.com>
	<SNT139-ds18E401BA9A23576496C3EB5590@phx.gbl>
	<4E0A80A7.9050603@mayfco.com> <ukHqB8BiAsCOFwVT@v8tiger.demon.co.uk>
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Is that a 4-banger under the hood?

-----Original Message-----
From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Jeff Howarth
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:03 AM
To: drmayf at mayfco.com
Cc: alpines at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............

Hi Mayf,

I think FUNNY car sum sup the car for sale.

Far removed from yours in terms of performance ability.

I just thought the Sunbeam gang would be amused by it.


Jeff





In message <4E0A80A7.9050603 at mayfco.com>, Larry Mayfield
<drmayf at mayfco.com> writes
>The car in the listing is not race ready. Has to have a specific made
>roll cage, HANS , lateral head supports, a funny car cage. Then there is
>the fire systems, 5 lb bottle for the motor , 10 pounds for the driver.
>Then the tires, 400 bucks apiece,  more for the high speed wheels. Motor
>must be putting out more than 500 hp to go faster than teh 210 exit
>speed I posted. Need race suspension front and rear. Need a parachute,
>need a funny car drivers suit. Motor will cost plenty since you will be
>driving up to 5 miles at almost full boogie and that takes some reliable
>parts internally which also must make power. Plus a lot of small
>unmentioned items. Need to add weight to the car because the short wheel
>base is a bear to drive. I have 18 degrees of caster so that will
>require changes in the steering system and suspension.  Now addin a
>generous amount of work at 0 bucks or more per hour to make it all
>happen.  This car was a show car that was "inspired by speed", not that
>it was a race car.  It is a show car lacking the goodies to go really
>fast.  IMHO. YMMV, lol..
>
>mayf
>
>______________________________
>drmayf
>Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>204.913 mph flying mile
>210.779 mph exit speed
>
>
>On 6/28/2011 5:57 PM, Chris Engle wrote:
>> with the 30 grand........????????
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* Larry Mayfield <mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com>
>>     *To:* alpines at autox.team.net <mailto:alpines at autox.team.net>
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2011 6:26 PM
>>     *Subject:* Re: [Alpines] Mayf has a doppleganger.............
>>
>>     There you go!  Buy it, add another 30 grand for go fast stuff and you
>>     too can have a salt racer!  I'll help whoever buys it!
>>
>>     mayf
>>
>>     ______________________________
>>     drmayf
>>     Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>>     204.913 mph flying mile
>>     210.779 mph exit speed
>>
>>
>>     On 6/28/2011 3:58 PM, Jeff Howarth wrote:
>>     > Here is an interesting sunbeam, a few similarities to Mayfs record
>>     > holder:
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > http://bakersfield.craigslist.org/cto/2462003843.html
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > and only $50,000
>>     >
>>     > Jeff
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