From awtiger at cox.net Wed Sep 2 20:01:03 2009 From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 21:01:03 -0500 Subject: [Alpines] Battery chargers Message-ID: <57FCCC8FE4A3434BBF0435BE7010489E@awtigerPC> Hey, fellas: Got a question for those of you who use battery chargers. I've got a couple of "Battery Tender Plus" units for my Tiger and my Alpine. I hooked them up last night after having them off the cars for the last month and the one on the Tiger did exactly what it was supposed to do. The one on the Alpine, however, still shows a steady red light (which, according to the instructions, means the battery is not charged yet) and the unit is very hot to the touch. I know for a fact that the battery was not that low on the Alpine. I keep the quick-connect charging pigtails on both cars at all times and nothing has changed on either car since the last time they were on the chargers. The thing that worries me about it is the fact that the Alpine's charger is very hot. Is this normal? I sure don't want to burn down my shop and the two cars!!!!! Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE (TAC #740) B9006857LRX From mrtebo at shaw.ca Thu Sep 3 06:51:53 2009 From: mrtebo at shaw.ca (Mary and Ron Tebo) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:51:53 -0600 Subject: [Alpines] Battery chargers In-Reply-To: <57FCCC8FE4A3434BBF0435BE7010489E@awtigerPC> References: <57FCCC8FE4A3434BBF0435BE7010489E@awtigerPC> Message-ID: <4A9FBBE9.4080309@shaw.ca> Andy: Have you switched the units to see if you get the same result with the other charger? This would tell you whether the charger or the battery is responsible. I use an automatic charger, but it's one of the larger units which has an ammeter showing the state o charge. I don't think this is normal, and I would suggest you download the maufacturer's manual (if you don't have one) and / or contact the seller (The Chinese manual on my charger was so inadequate, due to poor translation and brevity, that I downloaded a manual from another manfacturer that was more detailed and complete). Here's a link. http://www.battery-chargers.com/chgrpic.htm Ron Tebo awtiger wrote: > Hey, fellas: > > Got a question for those of you who use battery chargers. I've got a couple > of "Battery Tender Plus" units for my Tiger and my Alpine. I hooked them up > last night after having them off the cars for the last month and the one on > the Tiger did exactly what it was supposed to do. The one on the Alpine, > however, still shows a steady red light (which, according to the instructions, > means the battery is not charged yet) and the unit is very hot to the touch. > > I know for a fact that the battery was not that low on the Alpine. I keep the > quick-connect charging pigtails on both cars at all times and nothing has > changed on either car since the last time they were on the chargers. The > thing that worries me about it is the fact that the Alpine's charger is very > hot. Is this normal? I sure don't want to burn down my shop and the two > cars!!!!! > > Thanks, > Andy Walker > Edmond, OK > B382001600LRXFE (TAC #740) > B9006857LRX From lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi Thu Sep 3 08:47:25 2009 From: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi (=?iso-8859-1?B?o2F1cmk=?=) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 17:47:25 +0300 Subject: [Alpines] OD switch in gearbox In-Reply-To: <4A9FBBE9.4080309@shaw.ca> Message-ID: My new OD box came without switch. Is it identical to reverse light switch? And switch connects only when using 1st and 2nd gears. I tried to use reverse light switch, but so far it don't work with or without shims. Circuit diagram is so faint that I can't read it to be 100% sure. Another problem is windshield, I have glass in frame, but how to get that rubber sit correctly under frame? Should I put a length of thin rope into the groove, frame into place and then draw that rubber on the chrome list? I must once again try to find it in workshop manual (I think it has only about glass to frame instructions). Lauri Lehtinen journalist, engineer mobile: +358 (0) 400 851988 From azza.martin at gmail.com Sat Sep 5 06:27:23 2009 From: azza.martin at gmail.com (aaron martin) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:27:23 +0100 Subject: [Alpines] new member Message-ID: Hi all, Im a new member and am a proud owner of a 53,000 mile 1964 series 4 GT. I am got an issue with the clutch at the moment ( as it the clutch is not working at all!), however it use to be ok for a while if i pumped the pedal for a while. Clutch fluid level looks fine, cant see it leaking anywhere, im assuming its either by-passing at the master/slave cylinders. If this a common issue?? where should i start? Thanks Aaron From jarrid_gross at earthlink.net Sat Sep 5 06:52:14 2009 From: jarrid_gross at earthlink.net (jarrid_gross at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 05:52:14 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Alpines] new member Message-ID: <4883796.1252155134394.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Aaron, Welcome to the group. Unless you are leaking fluid at the slave, your problem is going to be seals in the master cyl. You you have a brake servo? If so you have two masters that could be the problem. Jarrid Gross >Hi all, > >Im a new member and am a proud owner of a 53,000 mile 1964 series 4 GT. > >I am got an issue with the clutch at the moment ( as it the clutch is >not working at all!), however it use to be ok for a while if i pumped >the pedal for a while. >Clutch fluid level looks fine, cant see it leaking anywhere, im >assuming its either by-passing at the master/slave cylinders. If this >a common issue?? where should i start? > >Thanks > >Aaron From jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk Sat Sep 5 07:01:38 2009 From: jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk (Jeff Howarth) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:01:38 +0100 Subject: [Alpines] new member In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Aaron, how are you Is the slave cylinder on the right side of the bell housing ? Have someone operate the pedal and see how much travel there is in the slave cylinder - if you are not getting much movement its a hydraulic issue I have some kits of you need one. regards Jeff In message , aaron martin writes >Hi all, > >Im a new member and am a proud owner of a 53,000 mile 1964 series 4 GT. > >I am got an issue with the clutch at the moment ( as it the clutch is >not working at all!), however it use to be ok for a while if i pumped >the pedal for a while. >Clutch fluid level looks fine, cant see it leaking anywhere, im >assuming its either by-passing at the master/slave cylinders. If this >a common issue?? where should i start? > >Thanks > >Aaron >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Alpines at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/alpines > >http://www.team.net/archive > -- Jeff Howarth From lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi Sat Sep 5 13:03:37 2009 From: lehtinen.lauri at kolumbus.fi (=?iso-8859-1?B?o2F1cmk=?=) Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:03:37 +0300 Subject: [Alpines] new member In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3E4FBB94FFD84F8A9B8C9EFB7DC32A76@lehtipuu224865> I have had this kind of problem twice. I had air in system, and it came out only after I took the car in a step hill. I think the pipeline has too long horizontal area or even a slight upwards u-bend. This is only one possible solution.... Welcome. Lauri Lehtinen journalist, engineer Helsinki, Finland mobile: +358 (0) 400 851988 -----Alkuperdinen viesti----- Ldhettdjd: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] Puolesta aaron martin Ldhetetty: 5. syyskuuta 2009 15:27 Vastaanottaja: alpines at autox.team.net Aihe: [Alpines] new member Hi all, Im a new member and am a proud owner of a 53,000 mile 1964 series 4 GT. I am got an issue with the clutch at the moment ( as it the clutch is not working at all!), however it use to be ok for a while if i pumped the pedal for a while. Clutch fluid level looks fine, cant see it leaking anywhere, im assuming its either by-passing at the master/slave cylinders. If this a common issue?? where should i start? Thanks Aaron Alpines at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/alpines http://www.team.net/archive Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2127 - Release Date: 05/21/09 17:51:00 From jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk Tue Sep 8 10:54:25 2009 From: jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk (Jeff Howarth) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 17:54:25 +0100 Subject: [Alpines] [Tigers] ELECTRIC sunbeam In-Reply-To: References: <6BF80257-8AF4-4923-80E8-7B939ADC60E0@mac.com> <8tLCa4OJTnpKFwPg@v8tiger.demon.co.uk> <9433D64AC237453094AEBCB76CF2CAAF@student2> Message-ID: I found it ! this guy should be our eco-hero, Does anyone know who he is ? regards Jeff http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?s=c18dd40c8d87056c3e4 8ad7ead3a29a1&t=14559 In message , Jeff Howarth writes >Tom, > > >you reminded me, I saw a clip of a programme, I think on the BBC a few >years ago which covered electric cars in CA> > >Guess what 2 of the cars were they had converted- ALPINES !! > >Does anyone know of the cars or has seen the film ? > > > >I will see if its on utube or somewhere similar. > > >regards > > >Jeff > > > > > > >In message <9433D64AC237453094AEBCB76CF2CAAF at student2>, Thomas Witt > writes >>Until a cost effective, light weight battery is created, this type of >>hybrid sure seems the way to go. The infastructure (gas stations) are >>there for the power source. >> >>I have the powertrain from a Jet Electrica 007 >>http://www.davisengineering.net/Jet.html .It got it when gas was $4.59 >>here in So. Cal.. The project killer is the $2,000 + for lead acid >>batteries with a life expectancy of 2 years. I got the motor, >>controller, battery box, in car charger and accessories for $105 from >>Pick A Part. The body shell to put it all in (Earlier Omni/Horizon or >>VW Rabbit - both used the same trans) maybe $500-$1,000. But at this >>point $3.00 gas in my Mazda 323 is still the better deal - at least >>for the time being. >> >>Not quite the Lotus design here, but I had thought about a trailer >>hitch mounted gas engine with an alternator array for extended range. >> >>"Living on the cutting edge of obsolescence," Tom >>_______________________________________________ >>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>You are subscribed as jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk >> >>Tigers at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers >> >>http://www.team.net/archive >> > -- Jeff Howarth From bmounce at rcn.com Tue Sep 8 11:25:27 2009 From: bmounce at rcn.com (Bill Mounce) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:25:27 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] [Tigers] ELECTRIC sunbeam In-Reply-To: References: <6BF80257-8AF4-4923-80E8-7B939ADC60E0@mac.com> <8tLCa4OJTnpKFwPg@v8tiger.demon.co.uk> <9433D64AC237453094AEBCB76CF2CAAF@student2> Message-ID: <010601ca30a9$5b963f60$12c2be20$@com> The link was no good, but if it was CA, I can't help. Back when I was in college, after the Civil War (early 70's, actually, just seems longer!), I had a friend at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, PA. He told me at the time that an engineering project was done that made an Alpine electric. About five years ago, I tried to follow up on this, and spoke to a retired professor who said he was involved, but it was a pick up truck, not an Alpine. Somebody was wa-a-a-ay wrong when the viewed the vehicle, but then... it was the 70's! Good luck, if you find the guy in CA, maybe ask if he went to Lehigh (Go Engineers!) Bill Mounce 67 SV (running on deficit creating mid east oil) -----Original Message----- From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Howarth Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:54 PM To: Jeff Howarth Cc: alpines at autox.team.net; Thomas Witt; tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Alpines] [Tigers] ELECTRIC sunbeam I found it ! this guy should be our eco-hero, Does anyone know who he is ? regards Jeff http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?s=c18dd40c8d87056c3e4 8ad7ead3a29a1&t=14559 In message , Jeff Howarth writes >Tom, > > >you reminded me, I saw a clip of a programme, I think on the BBC a few >years ago which covered electric cars in CA> > >Guess what 2 of the cars were they had converted- ALPINES !! > >Does anyone know of the cars or has seen the film ? > > > >I will see if its on utube or somewhere similar. > > >regards > > >Jeff > > > > > > >In message <9433D64AC237453094AEBCB76CF2CAAF at student2>, Thomas Witt > writes >>Until a cost effective, light weight battery is created, this type of >>hybrid sure seems the way to go. The infastructure (gas stations) are >>there for the power source. >> >>I have the powertrain from a Jet Electrica 007 >>http://www.davisengineering.net/Jet.html .It got it when gas was $4.59 >>here in So. Cal.. The project killer is the $2,000 + for lead acid >>batteries with a life expectancy of 2 years. I got the motor, >>controller, battery box, in car charger and accessories for $105 from >>Pick A Part. The body shell to put it all in (Earlier Omni/Horizon or >>VW Rabbit - both used the same trans) maybe $500-$1,000. But at this >>point $3.00 gas in my Mazda 323 is still the better deal - at least >>for the time being. >> >>Not quite the Lotus design here, but I had thought about a trailer >>hitch mounted gas engine with an alternator array for extended range. >> >>"Living on the cutting edge of obsolescence," Tom >>_______________________________________________ >>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >>You are subscribed as jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk >> >>Tigers at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers >> >>http://www.team.net/archive >> > -- Jeff Howarth Alpines at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/alpines http://www.team.net/archive From mrtebo at shaw.ca Tue Sep 8 14:20:08 2009 From: mrtebo at shaw.ca (Mary and Ron Tebo) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:20:08 -0600 Subject: [Alpines] [Tigers] ELECTRIC sunbeam In-Reply-To: <010601ca30a9$5b963f60$12c2be20$@com> References: <6BF80257-8AF4-4923-80E8-7B939ADC60E0@mac.com> <8tLCa4OJTnpKFwPg@v8tiger.demon.co.uk> <9433D64AC237453094AEBCB76CF2CAAF@student2> <010601ca30a9$5b963f60$12c2be20$@com> Message-ID: <4AA6BC78.3070703@shaw.ca> Bill: I think this is the link Jeff was referring to but you have to register to look at pics. Some other Alpine conversions too, if you search. http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php/planning-sunbeam-alpine-conversion-14559p3.html?highlight=sunbeam+alpine Ron Tebo Bill Mounce wrote: > The link was no good, but if it was CA, I can't help. > > Back when I was in college, after the Civil War (early 70's, actually, just > seems longer!), I had a friend at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, PA. He > told me at the time that an engineering project was done that made an Alpine > electric. About five years ago, I tried to follow up on this, and spoke to > a retired professor who said he was involved, but it was a pick up truck, > not an Alpine. Somebody was wa-a-a-ay wrong when the viewed the vehicle, > but then... it was the 70's! > > Good luck, if you find the guy in CA, maybe ask if he went to Lehigh (Go > Engineers!) > > Bill Mounce > 67 SV (running on deficit creating mid east oil) > > -----Original Message----- > From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Jeff Howarth > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 12:54 PM > To: Jeff Howarth > Cc: alpines at autox.team.net; Thomas Witt; tigers at autox.team.net > Subject: [Alpines] [Tigers] ELECTRIC sunbeam > > I found it ! > > this guy should be our eco-hero, > > > Does anyone know who he is ? > > > regards > > Jeff > > > http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/showthread.php?s=c18dd40c8d87056c3e4 > 8ad7ead3a29a1&t=14559 > > > > > > > > > > In message , Jeff Howarth > writes > >> Tom, >> >> >> you reminded me, I saw a clip of a programme, I think on the BBC a few >> years ago which covered electric cars in CA> >> >> Guess what 2 of the cars were they had converted- ALPINES !! >> >> Does anyone know of the cars or has seen the film ? >> >> >> >> I will see if its on utube or somewhere similar. >> >> >> regards >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In message <9433D64AC237453094AEBCB76CF2CAAF at student2>, Thomas Witt >> writes >> >>> Until a cost effective, light weight battery is created, this type of >>> hybrid sure seems the way to go. The infastructure (gas stations) are >>> there for the power source. >>> >>> I have the powertrain from a Jet Electrica 007 >>> http://www.davisengineering.net/Jet.html .It got it when gas was $4.59 >>> here in So. Cal.. The project killer is the $2,000 + for lead acid >>> batteries with a life expectancy of 2 years. I got the motor, >>> controller, battery box, in car charger and accessories for $105 from >>> Pick A Part. The body shell to put it all in (Earlier Omni/Horizon or >>> VW Rabbit - both used the same trans) maybe $500-$1,000. But at this >>> point $3.00 gas in my Mazda 323 is still the better deal - at least >>> for the time being. >>> >>> Not quite the Lotus design here, but I had thought about a trailer >>> hitch mounted gas engine with an alternator array for extended range. >>> >>> "Living on the cutting edge of obsolescence," Tom >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as jeff at v8tiger.demon.co.uk >>> >>> Tigers at autox.team.net >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive From bhayes at cs.stanford.edu Wed Sep 9 12:49:38 2009 From: bhayes at cs.stanford.edu (Barry Hayes) Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:49:38 -0700 Subject: [Alpines] [Tigers] ELECTRIC sunbeam In-Reply-To: References: <6BF80257-8AF4-4923-80E8-7B939ADC60E0@mac.com> <8tLCa4OJTnpKFwPg@v8tiger.demon.co.uk> <9433D64AC237453094AEBCB76CF2CAAF@student2> Message-ID: Jeff -- Hope you can find it. That'd be my car. The guy who did the conversion confirms that the BBC shot some stills and footage. From mark at bradakis.com Sun Sep 13 14:34:48 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:34:48 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Alpines] Whining time, Team.Net updates Message-ID: <20090913203448.C53B62E059@bradakis.com> Yes, I know that as the fellow behind the curtain who keeps Team.Net on the air, I do my share of whining. But the whining here is coming from one of the disks on the server, a bearing ready to fail in a few days, a couple of weeks, maybe not until 2010. Who knows? Rather than risk a sudden failure, it would be prudent to consider getting new hardware. And that is where you come in. I didn't have an official fund drive this year, though donations have come in at random times during the year. It seems to be time for those of you who have not recently contributed to step up and assist in keeping Team.Net on the air. If you have a few dollars to spare and desire to support this endeavor, check out the web page http://www.team.net/donate.html I, and thousands of folks around the planet would appreciate it. Gee, I haven't taken an actual count of all subscribers lately, I ought to do a headcount. On a related note, I have been doing a few things, like moving a few more lists from majordomo to mailman. Back when I started doing this about 20 years ago majordomo was the hot ticket. It is a bit outdated now, mailman is much more web friendly, hopefully much easier for you folks to use. Of course, there are those who still try to use majordomo to manage their mailman subscriptions, not much I can do about that! One thing I did was change the judson list, which was intended for discussion of classic Judson superchargers to superchargers at autox.team.net, opening it up for folks to discuss other brands. Feel free to go to the mailman page, http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo to sign up if you so desire. Actually I had hoped more folks would sign up for the-local list, a place for random discussion about all sorts of stuff. Tell a joke, review a movie, report the antics of your favorite public idiot, lament the last loss of your team, whatever. If there is a list you'd like to see, chances are I'd set one up, no problem. But for now, consider this an Official Team.Net fund drive, and assist as you can: http://www.team.net/donate.html Thanks! mjb. From gardner.mb at gmail.com Sun Sep 13 14:58:31 2009 From: gardner.mb at gmail.com (MB Gardner) Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:58:31 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] brake light switch failure-series v Message-ID: Anybody have a spare? Will i have to bleed the brakes to replace this or make a mess in the process? When i jump across the disconnected leads, the lights light; otherwise nothing. I've cleaned the contacts on the switch. regards -- Sincerely, Michael B. Gardner 22132 Westchester Road Shaker Heights, Ohio 44122 Cell 216-215-2855 Tel. 216-283-2323 Fax 216-991-2701 ________________________________________________ This communication may contain information that is legally privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Anyone who receives this message in error should notify the sender immediately by telephone or by email. From mrtebo at shaw.ca Mon Sep 14 05:45:37 2009 From: mrtebo at shaw.ca (Mary and Ron Tebo) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:45:37 -0600 Subject: [Alpines] brake light switch failure-series v In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AAE2CE1.7020409@shaw.ca> MB: New switches are available (or were?) from SS or Classic, but I've heard that they seldom fail, but will sludge up, or be affected by an air pocket. (Are you using silicone brake fluid?) Have you removed the switch and cleaned it / bled the brakes at the switch? You should do this before assuming the switch is at fault. Ron Tebo MB Gardner wrote: > Anybody have a spare? Will i have to bleed the brakes to replace this or > make a mess in the process? When i jump across the disconnected leads, the > lights light; otherwise nothing. I've cleaned the contacts on the switch. > regards From gswaybright at frontiernet.net Mon Sep 14 19:06:22 2009 From: gswaybright at frontiernet.net (G S Waybright) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:06:22 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] Calling all Sunbeam and Jensen of Western NY & the Finger Lakes Region Message-ID: <000f01ca35a0$be4e9160$0afea8c0@HPMEDIAPC> I'd like to see if I can get as many Sunbeam and Jensen owners from around Rochester NY together with their cars sometime before they go into Winter hibernation. We might meet at a cruise night or just at my house. all TBD. Please reply to me if you live in the area and are interested in joining in the fun. I figure if I need to do a lot of networking to find my next job, I might as well do something I enjoy as much as possible. Stephen Waybright www.linkedin.com/in/gswaybright - now in search of a leadership position in high tech hardware business From william.lewis at ucdmc.ucdavis.edu Tue Sep 15 11:50:32 2009 From: william.lewis at ucdmc.ucdavis.edu (William Lewis) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:50:32 -0700 Subject: [Alpines] brake switch Message-ID: Michael I just replaced my brake switch. Very easy to do. I put a rag under the old switch to catch the few drops of brake fluid that came out during the change. I unscrewed the old switch, screwed in the new switch, and didn't need to bleed the brakes. I have been told that silicone brake fluid ruins the switches. I use Castrol and my old switch was probably an original from 1962. I got my new switch from Rick at SS. Bill Lewis From carlynneracing at sbcglobal.net Tue Sep 15 13:02:59 2009 From: carlynneracing at sbcglobal.net (Carl McLelland) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:02:59 -0700 Subject: [Alpines] brake switch References: Message-ID: <88A94830092545059CCDDF9AA60F24E1@owner33025ef87> Ten years ago when I was restoring my Series 1 race car I heard that silicone/synthetic brake fluid was bad for natural rubber seals like those used in British cars. To test the theory I immersed a rubber seal in synthetic/silicone brake fluid in a jar then promptly forgot about it. About six months later when I got to the point of overhauling the calipers and rear brake cylinders I came across that jar. I found that (1) the seal had shrunk about 25% and (2) had literally turned to stone! It would have been completely unuseable for it's intended purpose: serving as a seal in a brake or hydraulic system. I used Castrol GTLMA brake fluid in my Alpine and later in my Lotus 61 formula Ford and have NEVER had any problem whatsoever with it. Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: William Lewis To: alpines at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: [Alpines] brake switch Michael I just replaced my brake switch. Very easy to do. I put a rag under the old switch to catch the few drops of brake fluid that came out during the change. I unscrewed the old switch, screwed in the new switch, and didn't need to bleed the brakes. I have been told that silicone brake fluid ruins the switches. I use Castrol and my old switch was probably an original from 1962. I got my new switch from Rick at SS. Bill Lewis _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Alpines at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/alpines http://www.team.net/archive From bhayes at cs.stanford.edu Fri Sep 18 22:34:53 2009 From: bhayes at cs.stanford.edu (Barry Hayes) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:34:53 -0700 Subject: [Alpines] Parts needed: series V license light bits, wiper motor, maybe Message-ID: I'm going to get pulled over some day for one of these .. Anyone have an extra lens and the socket with wires? I'm not sure what that second part is called .. Victoria doesn't seem to have any, nor Sunbeam Specialties, and I'm a bit reluctant to shell out $200 for two entire assemblies from Victoria. On the other hand, I am thinking of trying to kludge these instead. http://www.radlites.com/billet_mount.htm Anyone been there, done that? I also have what seems a lot like a non-functioning wiper motor -- it seems to be getting volts, and when I apply an external 12V, nothing. It's going to be ugly if I rewind that myself, and none seem to be available commercially. -b -- bhayes yat cs dot stanford dot edu is what you should put in your contact files -- it'll forward to me no matter where I move From fastsage at cox.net Sat Sep 19 15:47:51 2009 From: fastsage at cox.net (Steve Sage) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:47:51 -0700 Subject: [Alpines] Hood Adjustment Advice Message-ID: <4AB55187.8090900@cox.net> I had to remove the hood spring piece that fits into the receiver over the heater core when you close the hood. In reinstalling it I thought I had it close to where it was before. Wrong!! On closing the hood, nothing would get it open again and I tried everything short of taking a saw and cutting through it. (I wouldn't have really done that, would I???). I obviously didn't align things properly. The latch in front of the receiver hole worked OK but I think that "Washer" at the end of the spring assembly got wedged under the release bar (that moves in there when you pull the hood pull). I finally gave up and had to unbolt the hood from the two hinges in front. That was a lot of fun (NOT) as you have to do everything by feel, not sight, as you can't see the bolts up there. Now I want to reattach everything but don't want to go through this again. I notice that the spring assembly that fits to the hood, and the eight bolts that bolt the hood to the two hinges in front all have "play", especially the slots in the hinges in front. They're adjustable every which way. Why did Rootes do that??? Does anyone know exactly how the factory did it? They built thousands of Alpines and Tigers and must have had an easy, standard way of installing those hoods. I don't think "Lets wrench the bolts in and hope for the best" would have worked on the assembly line. Here's my idea for now, and any advice from those who have been there before would be appreciated: I think I'll reinstall the spring assembly on the hood, place the hood in the closed position without attaching any of the bolts to the hinges in front, and gently align the hood until I'm sure pulling the release handle pops the hood open. Then I'm going to just attach the two easiest bolts (of the eight) through the hinges in front into the hood. Then open the hood and close it all the way again. This way, if I have the alignment wrong, I only have those two easy bolts to take out to start over again, instead of all eight at once and taking another two hours to get them out again. Then, when the hood opens and closes every time, I'll reinstall the additional six bolts for good. Has anyone else tried this, and does it make sense? If it does and it works, maybe we've come up with an easier way to re-install hoods and not be afraid we'll mess things up. Steve Sage 1966 Tiger MK1A E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13300 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From fastsage at cox.net Sun Sep 20 00:21:38 2009 From: fastsage at cox.net (Steve Sage) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 23:21:38 -0700 Subject: [Alpines] Hood Problem Solved Message-ID: <4AB5C9F2.9010202@cox.net> An update. I followed my own "instructions" from my email earlier today and it worked. The hood opens now with no problem. Maybe this will help someone who runs into this in the future. I positioned the hood back on the car, with the spring assembly attached, without reinstalling any bolts into the hinges in front. This locked the hood spring assembly into the receiver. Basically, it "self centered" the spring assembly into that hole. I pulled the hood release and it opened, and did that a few times. Then I installed just one bolt into each hinge in front (reaching through the grill) and snugged them down, but not too tight, and then adjusted the hood so the gaps were then pretty equal on both sides of the hood and especially at the front of the hood. I then really tightened just those two bolts up into the hinges. Then I opened the hood and propped it open. I installed one more bolt in each hinge and tightened the four bolts (two in each hinge) down snugly so now I had just the four bolts closest to the front of the car installed. This way if when I closed the hood again and it stuck, I wouldn't have to take out the four back bolts in the hinges (closest to the firewall) which are a lot more difficult to get to with the hood closed. I opened and closed the hood again, crossed my fingers and pulled the hood release again. It opened again. Then, with the hood open, I installed the back four hinge bolts (easy with the hood open), closed the hood again and it again opened with no problem so, problem solved. That all being said, the alignment isn't perfect and the hood doesn't quite pop all the way up. It comes up about 2/3 of an inch when I pull the release handle, and I just grab the corner of the hood and it's open. There's just a little resistance, not much. I've had it opened and closed about 30 times now though, so I'm not messing with that again. Steve Sage E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13300 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From prbreuhan at hotmail.com Sun Sep 20 07:24:05 2009 From: prbreuhan at hotmail.com (Paul R. Breuhan) Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:24:05 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] Parts needed: series V license light bits, wiper motor, maybe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Barry, Go to Ebay and see auction #330359976621 or type in "license plate frame light" and a number of them will come up. Resaonable price...nice looking billet frame...license plate light and a 3rd brake light...which kind of matches the look of Alpine tail lights... Paul > Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:34:53 -0700 > From: bhayes at cs.stanford.edu > To: alpines at autox.team.net > Subject: [Alpines] Parts needed: series V license light bits, wiper motor, maybe > > I'm going to get pulled over some day for one of these .. > Anyone have an extra lens and the socket with wires? I'm not sure what > that second part is called .. Victoria doesn't seem to have any, nor > Sunbeam Specialties, and I'm a bit reluctant to shell out $200 for two > entire assemblies from Victoria. > > On the other hand, I am thinking of trying to kludge these instead. > http://www.radlites.com/billet_mount.htm > Anyone been there, done that? > > I also have what seems a lot like a non-functioning wiper motor -- it > seems to be getting volts, and when I apply an external 12V, nothing. > It's going to be ugly if I rewind that myself, and none seem to be > available commercially. > -b _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has ever-growing storage! Dont worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial _Storage_062009 From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Wed Sep 23 10:19:30 2009 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Alpines] Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers Message-ID: <29975914.1253722770311.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers This just in from Rod Bean - Can anyone on this list help??? Contact Rod directly, but please CC me. Thanks, Rick ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rod Bean Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:11 AM Subject: Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers To: Rick Feibusch Hi Rick, I've been trying to remember the place where I purchased my first Lotus Elan (of many since) in 1969. It was a 1964 purchased used from a large British car dealership in Anaheim. The place might have been a distributorship. They handled all the BMC marques and was named something like British Motors or British Car Distributors, British Motor Corporation of Anaheim or something like that. I seem to remember that it was near a freeway offramp, though which freeway, I can't recall. A few years before, I actually had also bought a 1957 Hillman Commer Cob (like a Husky but a panel truck instead of with side windows) there (with a later OHV Hillman engine installed) from them. It was their parts delivery vehicle and they were upgrading to something else. What I'm looking for is the correct name and possibly, address of the place. This is just for my records as I am trying to trace my automotive history, particularly, my long Lotus history.... all the cars Thanks for any help, Rick. Rod Bean From carlynneracing at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 23 11:03:36 2009 From: carlynneracing at sbcglobal.net (Carl McLelland) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:03:36 -0700 Subject: [Alpines] Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers References: <29975914.1253722770311.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <8D49E71D9B104EB9BB225592149A88EF@owner33025ef87> Only place I can think of that was a Lotus dealer was Bob Challman in Hermosa Beach or Redondo Beach or one of the "xxxxx" Beach cities in So Cal. And for parts for them, Dave Bean Engineering in San Andreas, CA. (up in the Motherload Country). Carl Lotus 61 FF ----- Original Message ----- From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net To: alpines at autox.team.net ; tigers at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:19 AM Subject: [Alpines] Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers This just in from Rod Bean - Can anyone on this list help??? Contact Rod directly, but please CC me. Thanks, Rick ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Rod Bean Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:11 AM Subject: Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers To: Rick Feibusch Hi Rick, I've been trying to remember the place where I purchased my first Lotus Elan (of many since) in 1969. It was a 1964 purchased used from a large British car dealership in Anaheim. The place might have been a distributorship. They handled all the BMC marques and was named something like British Motors or British Car Distributors, British Motor Corporation of Anaheim or something like that. I seem to remember that it was near a freeway offramp, though which freeway, I can't recall. A few years before, I actually had also bought a 1957 Hillman Commer Cob (like a Husky but a panel truck instead of with side windows) there (with a later OHV Hillman engine installed) from them. It was their parts delivery vehicle and they were upgrading to something else. What I'm looking for is the correct name and possibly, address of the place. This is just for my records as I am trying to trace my automotive history, particularly, my long Lotus history.... all the cars Thanks for any help, Rick. Rod Bean _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Alpines at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/alpines http://www.team.net/archive From TIGEROOTES at aol.com Wed Sep 23 16:07:50 2009 From: TIGEROOTES at aol.com (TIGEROOTES at aol.com) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:07:50 EDT Subject: [Alpines] [Tigers] Fitting a Dale's LAT Hood Message-ID: achd73 at yahoo.com writes: > ... I even thought about having a set of moulds made using my fender > flares BUT I dont think there is enough interest to support the investment. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------- > Tony, If you want copies of LAT fender flares, they are already available thru Starke Shelby. He > had a set of moulds made from an original unmounted set of flares I own. > Jim Leach Pacific Tiger Club Seattle From gstrom99 at joimail.com Wed Sep 23 17:32:32 2009 From: gstrom99 at joimail.com (Gary) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:32:32 -0500 Subject: [Alpines] AutoWeek Sunbeam? Message-ID: <9018ED22597E41C9AAC4BD0E1D0A5C65@RacerX> OK guys/gals, fess up. Which one of you owns the Volvo wagon with a Sunbeam Alpine/Tiger body ON TOP, pictured on page 60 in the 9/21/09 AutoWeek magazine, under "Moving Miscue No. 678478"??? Gary From bhayes at cs.stanford.edu Wed Sep 23 19:34:10 2009 From: bhayes at cs.stanford.edu (Barry Hayes) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:34:10 -0700 Subject: [Alpines] Parts needed: series V license light bits, wiper motor, maybe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Eventually I'll learn to get the information before I ask .. maybe. The lights have L534 on the base, but I'm not sure if that's just the base or the Lucas part for the whole light. They also seem to go by "519". These are bumper-mounted. I have all the chrome, and Victoria does have the missing bits. I'm already going to them for an inertial 3-point harness [the one for the MG works, but I had to fab an angle for one of the mounts] so I might as well feel better about the crazy shipping by getting a few more parts. It's only about $27, so the heck with it. Thanks anyway, everyone. From marcsmall at comcast.net Wed Sep 23 20:46:49 2009 From: marcsmall at comcast.net (Marc James Small) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:46:49 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] Parts needed: series V license light bits, wiper motor, maybe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090924024832.946B5187657@autox.team.net> At 09:34 PM 9/23/2009, Barry Hayes wrote: >Eventually I'll learn to get the information before I ask .. maybe. > >The lights have L534 on the base, but I'm not sure if that's just the >base or the Lucas part for the whole light. They also seem to go by >"519". These are bumper-mounted. I have all the chrome, and Victoria >does have the missing bits. I'm already going to them for an inertial >3-point harness [the one for the MG works, but I had to fab an angle >for one of the mounts] so I might as well feel better about the crazy >shipping by getting a few more parts. It's only about $27, so the heck >with it. Would you like a scan of the parts manual section on this, Barry? I'll be happy to oblige. I can also give you a scan of anything mentioned in the repair manual. Avoid Victoria at all costs. Sunbeam Specialties and Curt Meinel are the way to go. Tiger Tom may still have some stuff, or Jim D'Amelio. Marc msmall at aya.yale.edu Cha robh b`s fir gun ghr`s fir! From peter at wizardclassics.co.uk Thu Sep 24 05:46:31 2009 From: peter at wizardclassics.co.uk (Peter Chadbund) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:46:31 +0100 Subject: [Alpines] 1725 rocker cover References: <20090823181801.5F3722E0CF@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <3B29B7E3B12043BAAB5B8CD581C8812E@WIZARD1> I have got an alloy rocker box from a 1725cc Alpine surplus to requirements. If anyone can make use of it you can have it for the cost of shipping (UK - 8pounds; International - air 24pounds, surface 15 pounds, payment by Paypal) contact me off-list if interested Peter peter at wizardclassics.co.uk From bmounce at rcn.com Sun Sep 27 09:53:06 2009 From: bmounce at rcn.com (Bill Mounce) Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:53:06 -0400 Subject: [Alpines] Gasket on fuel sending unit Message-ID: <007a01ca3f8a$9ab52540$d01f6fc0$@com> Hello all The fuel sending unit on my SV has a captive lock nut with three bend tangs that hold it onto the sending unit, yet loose enough to let it turn. I tap it into place with a hammer and screwdriver. The rubber gasket that comes with it fits on the mating face in the tank opening. However, it seems with those tangs there, the second mating face (i.e. the sending unit), cannot properly mate with the tangs. I looked to see if the gasket goes under the tangs, it does not; the diameter is too large. Once the assembly is done, the sending unit is loose because of the tangs, and I think when the tanks are full, I leak. Any thoughts? All I can think is my gasket, being older, is not 'mushy' enough (technical term) to let the tangs impress down into it, and effect a seal. Thank you, Bill Mounce Easton, PA 1967 SV From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Wed Sep 30 08:52:10 2009 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:52:10 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Alpines] British Car Find of The Day - Craigslist SF Bay Area Message-ID: <13646388.1254322330696.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> 1953 Sunbeam Talbot Saloon http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/1390222408.html Best, Rick Feibusch