From bmounce at rcn.com  Tue Jul  7 20:05:06 2009
From: bmounce at rcn.com (Bill Mounce)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:05:06 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] Weber question
Message-ID: <033a01c9ff70$83e40a70$8bac1f50$@com>

Hello all:

 

I converted my SV to a single Weber downdraught carb, and have found it
stumbles, or has a flat spot (not sure of the correct jargon) at low RPMs.
I was thinking it was either starving at low RPMs, or getting too much gas
via the accelerator pump.  The situation is bad when leaving from a dead
stop, or shifting.  I haven't had time to monkey with it, but was talking to
a customer of mine who repaired foreign cars for 35 years.  He said the
Weber was designed for racing and high revs, and this behavior should be
expected.  Any comments from the group?  If this is true, I can't say I am
overly thrilled.  At my age and weight, the only racing I do is chasing the
Hagen Daz truck down my street!  "Wait, come ba-a-a-a-c-c-k-k-k-k!"

 

Thanks all, 

 

Bill Mounce

1967 SV, aka 'The Paperweight'

From rwvose at vcn.com  Wed Jul  8 13:46:22 2009
From: rwvose at vcn.com (rwvose at vcn.com)
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:46:22 -0600
Subject: [Alpines] Weber question
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1247076001.10297.alpines@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15.1247076001.10297.alpines@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <20090708134622.455441qunf3ysl2c@webmail.vcn.com>

Hi Bill,
You have the classic symptoms of DGV lean idles. I can't give you  
specific recommendations on jets, but if your 1725cc engine is  
basically stock and your altitude is between sea level and 2000', I'd  
start with a primary idle size of 065 or 070 and the secondary idle of  
062 or 065. Jets can be purchased from Pierce Manifolds or Redline  
Weber.

Hope this helps,

Rich Vose

From boxweed at thebest.net  Wed Jul  8 19:46:56 2009
From: boxweed at thebest.net (boxweed)
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:46:56 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] Question About Tiger Subframe
Message-ID: <CD832FE7880943D8A035916A17EBCBC1@boxweed>

Does anyone know for sure whether Sunbeam Tigers came from the factory with a
reinforcement channel welded over the X-frame in the area where the tailpipe
passes through the X-frame?  I have seen a couple of very original unrestored
Tigers recently with no rust and no evidence of rust repair, but both had
nearly identical 10 inch metal channels, including the holes for the tailpipe
pass-through, welded to the X-frame on both sides in that area.  I had always
thought that these pieces were welded on by body repair men because of rust in
those areas, but neither of the two unrestored rust-free cars I recently saw
had any evidence of rust in that area or any other area, which made me start
wondering if maybe this was a factory procedure.

Thanks in advance!
Bob

From jacranwell at aol.com  Fri Jul 10 08:54:38 2009
From: jacranwell at aol.com (jacranwell at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:54:38 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] Weber question
In-Reply-To: <033a01c9ff70$83e40a70$8bac1f50$@com>
References: <033a01c9ff70$83e40a70$8bac1f50$@com>
Message-ID: <8CBCF857BAA8C88-1754-4543@WEBMAIL-MY25.sysops.aol.com>

Bill,

I've done the same conversion, with a Weber 28/36 DCD, with a progressive 2nd throttle. I'm assuming that's what you have as it bolts right onto the solex manifold from the SIII. It runs very well, although a little rich judging by the plugs etc. I could cure that with more optimal jets, but it's only marginal, so I've left it alone.

It sounds more like fuel starvation to me, and is more likely to be the accelleration pump not working than dumping too much fuel.

If you take off the filter and pump the gas, you should see the pump jetting gas into the venturi.

If that all works fine, I would check your jet and venturi sizes, and maybe the float level. I'll pull mine to get the jet reading if you like.

If it's been parted from another car, without being jetted for the 1725, that could be the problem. A lot of these units came from smaller engined Fiats.

Julian.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Mounce <bmounce at rcn.com>
To: Alpine Discussion Group <alpines at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 3:05
Subject: [Alpines] Weber question



Hello all:

 

I converted my SV to a single Weber downdraught carb, and have found it
stumbles, or has a flat spot (not sure of the correct jargon) at low RPMs.
I was thinking it was either starving at low RPMs, or getting too much gas
via the accelerator pump.  The situation is bad when leaving from a dead
stop, or shifting.  I haven't had time to monkey with it, but was talking to
a customer of mine who repaired foreign cars for 35 years.  He said the
Weber was designed for racing and high revs, and this behavior should be
expected.  Any comments from the group?  If this is true, I can't say I am
overly thrilled.  At my age and weight, the only racing I do is chasing the
Hagen Daz truck down my street!  "Wait, come ba-a-a-a-c-c-k-k-k-k!"

 

Thanks all, 

 

Bill Mounce

1967 SV, aka 'The Paperweight'
Alpines at autox.team.net
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From cmeinel464 at aol.com  Fri Jul 10 10:50:43 2009
From: cmeinel464 at aol.com (cmeinel464 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:50:43 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] AOL and Team.Net
In-Reply-To: <ce1.4f77e0b7.3788ca2e@aol.com>
References: <ce1.4f77e0b7.3788ca2e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <8CBCF95B2B3C927-F54-5B4@webmail-md04.sysops.aol.com>

I have the same isssue, haven't seen any post on either the Alpine or tiger list in a few months.
Curt meinel
Classic Sunbeam Inc.


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From: UnclStevie at aol.com
To: FHSLOTH13 at aol.com; Lfm614 at aol.com; TRBILBO at aol.com; CarlSereda at aol.com; mark at bradakis.com; DavidK1069 at aol.com
Cc: aol-list at bradakis.com
Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 12:45 pm
Subject: Re: AOL and Team.Net



Looks like we could be back. If you get the email to "re-inlist" do so. Follow the directions in the email. Let's all pray to the Brit car gods.

?

Stephen Edelstein 
UnclStevie at aol.com
212.666.9198 
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In a message dated 7/10/2009 12:29:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, FHSLOTH13 at aol.com writes:


I have the same problem, no mail for about two months and did not change anything.

?

Fred Baum





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From sunbeams at sc.rr.com  Sat Jul 11 11:14:13 2009
From: sunbeams at sc.rr.com (Eric Gibeaut)
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:14:13 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] Sunbeam SOS in Columbia, South Carolina Sept. 12th
References: <ce1.4f77e0b7.3788ca2e@aol.com>
	<8CBCF95B2B3C927-F54-5B4@webmail-md04.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <00c601ca024b$03a41c50$6501a8c0@DFBHD491>

Come join a crowd of Sunbeam owners at the 3rd Annual Sunbeam Owners of
the South car show and Sunbeam weekend. We will have a group drive,
picnic, photo shoot, ice cream run, BBQ drive, swap meet, hospitality
suite and lots of Sunbeam talk. On Sept. 12th we will join up with the
local Columbia British car club at their annual show at a beautiful
lakeside park that has lots of shade. Don't miss the fun! All Rootes
cars are welcome.
See this website for more information and registration for the show and
hotel info.
http://www.bccmc.com/index.php/carolina_british_classics_iii/

Tentative schedule for the SOS
Dates for event September 11th - 13th, 2009
Location is Columbia, South Carolina
Host Motel is The Hampton Inn - Vista Location
Web Site for Motel:
http://hamptoninn.hilton.com/en/hp/g...11/index.jhtml
Registration Form for car show on Saturday:
http://www.capitalfinancialpartners....gistration.pdf

Tentative agenda:

September 11th, 2009
Meet at the Hampton Inn - Vista location at 3:00pm
At 3:30 PM Leave the Hampton Inn in a Sunbeam convoy to Lake Murray drive 
across the Saluda Shoals dam (Lake Murray dam) Then into the park area 
around 4:00pm.
At 4:00pm we will have a professional photo shoot with the lake in the 
background. To have you and your car in the photo shoot is $10.00 per car.
At 4:30 PM we leave the photo area and go 500 feet to the cookout shelter.
>From 4:30 PM to 6:00 PM we will have our cookout, parts swap and meeting on 
the planning of Invasion 2010.
At 6:00 PM we will convoy about 8 miles to a local deli for our Ice Cream 
dessert.
At 7:00 PM we will drive back to the Hampton Inn - Vista for the hospitality 
party that runs till 10:00 PM

On September 12th, 2009
The group will enjoy the all British car show - Carolina British Classics 
III at Weston Lake till 4:00 PM.
Registration for the show starts at 8:30 AM through 12:00 noon.
At 4:30 PM we will convoy to a BBQ restaurant in Elgin, SC for dinner 
together. This will be about a 20 mile convoy together.
At 6:30 PM we will leave to go to Eric Gibeaut's house to tour his 
collection of Sunbeams, Minis and other British memorabilia. This is only 
about 2 miles from the BBQ restaurant.
After dinner we will convoy back to the Hampton Inn and enjoy some free time 
in the Vista where the party is always going on.

On September 13th, 2009
We have the hospitality room reserved for our group if we want to use it for 
something on Sunday morning - this is yet to be determined. We could use it 
as our breakfast area.

From jacranwell at aol.com  Mon Jul 13 10:03:04 2009
From: jacranwell at aol.com (jacranwell at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:03:04 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] Question About Tiger Subframe
In-Reply-To: <CD832FE7880943D8A035916A17EBCBC1@boxweed>
References: <CD832FE7880943D8A035916A17EBCBC1@boxweed>
Message-ID: <8CBD1EA8A3836C1-1350-CEE@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com>

Bob,

I think you'll find all Alpiones/Tigers had this ex-factory. Mine certainly have.

Julian.


-----Original Message-----
From: boxweed <boxweed at thebest.net>
To: Boxweed <boxweed at thebest.net>
CC: Sunbeam List <alpines at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 2:46
Subject: [Alpines] Question About Tiger Subframe



Does anyone know for sure whether Sunbeam Tigers came from the factory with a
reinforcement channel welded over the X-frame in the area where the tailpipe
passes through the X-frame?  I have seen a couple of very original unrestored
Tigers recently with no rust and no evidence of rust repair, but both had
nearly identical 10 inch metal channels, including the holes for the tailpipe
pass-through, welded to the X-frame on both sides in that area.  I had always
thought that these pieces were welded on by body repair men because of rust in
those areas, but neither of the two unrestored rust-free cars I recently saw
had any evidence of rust in that area or any other area, which made me start
wondering if maybe this was a factory procedure.

Thanks in advance!
Bob
Alpines at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/alpines

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From jacranwell at aol.com  Mon Jul 13 10:05:32 2009
From: jacranwell at aol.com (jacranwell at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:05:32 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] Weber question
In-Reply-To: <20090708134622.455441qunf3ysl2c@webmail.vcn.com>
References: <mailman.15.1247076001.10297.alpines@autox.team.net>
	<20090708134622.455441qunf3ysl2c@webmail.vcn.com>
Message-ID: <8CBD1EAE211CE80-1350-D1D@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com>

Thanks Rich,

I may try those settings myself, as my idle could be better.

Any clues as to the main jests for the 1725?

Julian.


-----Original Message-----
From: rwvose at vcn.com
To: alpines at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:46
Subject: [Alpines] Weber question


Hi Bill,?
You have the classic symptoms of DGV lean idles. I can't give you specific recommendations on jets, but if your 1725cc engine is basically stock and your altitude is between sea level and 2000', I'd start with a primary idle size of 065 or 070 and the secondary idle of 062 or 065. Jets can be purchased from Pierce Manifolds or Redline Weber.?
?
Hope this helps,?
?
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From mrtebo at shaw.ca  Tue Jul 14 06:02:34 2009
From: mrtebo at shaw.ca (Mary and Ron Tebo)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:02:34 -0600
Subject: [Alpines] Weber question
In-Reply-To: <8CBD1EAE211CE80-1350-D1D@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com>
References: <mailman.15.1247076001.10297.alpines@autox.team.net>
	<20090708134622.455441qunf3ysl2c@webmail.vcn.com>
	<8CBD1EAE211CE80-1350-D1D@WEBMAIL-MZ21.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4A5C73DA.7030708@shaw.ca>

Julian:

I sent these figures (from my archive) to Bill Mounce, but may have not 
copied to the list. The link still works and there seems to be quite a 
bit of Weber info on that website.

Ron Tebo
Subject: Re: Weber DGV jetting
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:12:16 -0500
From: "Brad Sahr" <bsahr at mediaone.net>
To: "Andrew Gregg" <viber at onix.net>, "Alpines" <alpines at autox.team.net>

Andrew,

I've got a 32/36 DGV 5A and I do not have the mid-range sputter that you are
experiencing. I do have a stumble when I pull away from a stop, but I'm
attributing this to poor engine compression. Here are the Weber 32/36 DGV 5A
jet settings:

Jet       Primary   Secondary
Main      140       135
Air       165       160
Idle      55        50
E-tube    F50       F6
Pump      50        n/a

You can buy jets from Performance Parts Warehouse on the east coast
(http://www.webercarburetors.com/). $25 minimum. My notes indicate $3.50 for
Idle, Air, and Main jets; $10 for E-tubes.

Brad
'64 Series IV Automatic

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Gregg <viber at onix.net>
To: Alpines <alpines at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:56 PM
Subject: Weber DGV jetting

 >Here I am again with another in my on-going series of Weber questions. The
 >car now idles fine and performs quite well with the DGV carb. However, it
 >has a sputter in the mid-rpm range which I attribute to a jetting
mis-match.
 >(The carb came from a VW Beetle.) Can anyone out there give me the numbers
 >from a set of jets that work well in a Series IV Alpine? The name of a
 >supplier would also be helpful.
 >Thanks,
 >Andrew Gregg
 >1964 Series IV
 >


jacranwell at aol.com wrote:
> Thanks Rich,
>
> I may try those settings myself, as my idle could be better.
>
> Any clues as to the main jests for the 1725?
>
> Julian.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rwvose at vcn.com
> To: alpines at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:46
> Subject: [Alpines] Weber question
>
>
> Hi Bill,?
> You have the classic symptoms of DGV lean idles. I can't give you specific recommendations on jets, but if your 1725cc engine is basically stock and your altitude is between sea level and 2000', I'd start with a primary idle size of 065 or 070 and the secondary idle of 062 or 065. Jets can be purchased from Pierce Manifolds or Redline Weber.?
> ?
> Hope this helps,?
> ?
> Rich Vose?
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From spmdr at juno.com  Tue Jul 14 09:24:50 2009
From: spmdr at juno.com (spmdr at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:24:50 -0700
Subject: [Alpines] Weber question
Message-ID: <20090714.083145.-2082721.1.spmdr@juno.com>

FYI,

 If you have a stumble just off idle and a bit of warm hard starting, you
most likely have a 55 primary idle pilot jet.

That is what I have seen in ALL of the new carbs for the last several
years.

No amount of adjustment or changing main jets will fix the problems of a
TOO small idle jet !

...guess how I know!

I have found 60 is the magic number for the primary idle pilot jet.

...65 is TOO big and 70 is unthinkable, at least with a street cam.

 ...But 55 may be usable at higher altitudes!

I have not seen the need to mess with the secondary idle pilot jet.

My $.02

  DW


On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:05:32 -0400 jacranwell at aol.com writes:
> Thanks Rich,
> 
> I may try those settings myself, as my idle could be better.
> 
> Any clues as to the main jests for the 1725?
> 
> Julian.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rwvose at vcn.com
> To: alpines at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:46
> Subject: [Alpines] Weber question
> 
> 
> Hi Bill,?
> You have the classic symptoms of DGV lean idles. I can't give you 
> specific recommendations on jets, but if your 1725cc engine is 
> basically stock and your altitude is between sea level and 2000', 
> I'd start with a primary idle size of 065 or 070 and the secondary 
> idle of 062 or 065. Jets can be purchased from Pierce Manifolds or 
> Redline Weber.?
> ?
> Hope this helps,?
> ?
> Rich Vose?
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From bmounce at rcn.com  Tue Jul 14 15:50:08 2009
From: bmounce at rcn.com (Bill Mounce)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:50:08 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] Weber question
In-Reply-To: <20090714.083145.-2082721.1.spmdr@juno.com>
References: <20090714.083145.-2082721.1.spmdr@juno.com>
Message-ID: <012901ca04cd$0e7adc20$2b709460$@com>

Hello all

I wish to thank everyone (i.e. Rich, Ron, Julian, Tom, DW, Rick at SS, etc-
sorry to make this sound like the Academy Awards!) who took the time to help
me with the Weber problem.  Jets being cheap, I ordered up .60, .65, .70 and
.75, and, based on what the techie at Pierce told me, I started small and
moved up.  As it turned out, my stock SV ran great on an idle jet of .60 and
secondary idle jet of .55 (my old primary idle jet).  The sole stumbling I
encounter is if I corner in 3rd, don't downshift, lug the motor a bit, I
will get < one second of stumble, so no complaints!  Thanks all.

New problem- my gas gauge reads full to 8 gallons, even though I know I am
almost empty.  Float hanging up or electrical problem?  I got to find a gas
leak (heavy fuel smell and leak when full), so I might as well fix
everything at once.

You guys are the best!  And to think I was considering a TR-6!

Bill Mounce

-----Original Message-----
From: alpines-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:alpines-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of spmdr at juno.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:25 AM
To: jacranwell at aol.com; alpines at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Alpines] Weber question

FYI,

 If you have a stumble just off idle and a bit of warm hard starting, you
most likely have a 55 primary idle pilot jet.

That is what I have seen in ALL of the new carbs for the last several
years.

No amount of adjustment or changing main jets will fix the problems of a
TOO small idle jet !

...guess how I know!

I have found 60 is the magic number for the primary idle pilot jet.

...65 is TOO big and 70 is unthinkable, at least with a street cam.

 ...But 55 may be usable at higher altitudes!

I have not seen the need to mess with the secondary idle pilot jet.

My $.02

  DW


On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:05:32 -0400 jacranwell at aol.com writes:
> Thanks Rich,
> 
> I may try those settings myself, as my idle could be better.
> 
> Any clues as to the main jests for the 1725?
> 
> Julian.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rwvose at vcn.com
> To: alpines at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:46
> Subject: [Alpines] Weber question
> 
> 
> Hi Bill,?
> You have the classic symptoms of DGV lean idles. I can't give you 
> specific recommendations on jets, but if your 1725cc engine is 
> basically stock and your altitude is between sea level and 2000', 
> I'd start with a primary idle size of 065 or 070 and the secondary 
> idle of 062 or 065. Jets can be purchased from Pierce Manifolds or 
> Redline Weber.?
> ?
> Hope this helps,?
> ?
> Rich Vose?
> _______________________________________________?
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> ?
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From achd73 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 15 11:45:06 2009
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:45:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Alpines] KanN TALL
Message-ID: <535192.99773.qm@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Theo posted the number for a KanN filter which is the same diameter but thicker than the orginal most of us are running. I thought I saved that email but cant locate it. If anyone else saved it or if Theo doesnt mind, please repost that KanN part number. I promised a chap at SUNI who doesnt have email I would send it to him. He also repairs/recast the steering wheel hub if yours is cracked so bad you want it fixed.He sold home made steering wheels made of different types wood. He repaired a old hub and after recasting the cracked part he added new wood- most likely using Alpine wheels from which he removed the plastic from around the steel circle under the orginal plastic(for lack of the correct name of THAT material). He did excellent work, so Im passing this on to the Alpine list as well in case someone needs his service.
Thanks in advance.
TtT

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Thu Jul 16 22:34:43 2009
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:34:43 -0700
Subject: [Alpines] [Tigers] KanN TALL
In-Reply-To: <20090717041057.NNIWU.2190.root@hrndva-web07-z01>
References: <20090717041057.NNIWU.2190.root@hrndva-web07-z01>
Message-ID: <4A5FFF63.5030406@mayfco.com>

This thread on K&N has got me to thinking..has anyone used a flow bench 
to test the stock air cleaner and  filter? I wonder how it actually 
flows? Iffn I was making a new one, I would make it such that the side 
wings on the air filter, top and botom, were also of filter materials. 
More air flow in the same space..

Forgive me for highjacking the filter story for a moment...
mayf
mmichels at socal.rr.com wrote:

>The next taller K and N is two inches versus the stock height of 1-1/2. It works well, but look out for clearance to hood. Summit Racing has it under part number KNN-E-3710. It is listed as 13-1/2 inch diameter "round" but it is plenty flexible and will take on the oval shape permanently after installed in the stock air cleaner. 
>
>---- Tony Somebody <achd73 at yahoo.com> wrote: 
>  
>
>>Theo posted the number for a KanN filter which is the same diameter but thicker than the orginal most of us are running. I thought I saved that email but cant locate it. If anyone else saved it or if Theo doesnt mind, please repost that KanN part number. I promised a chap at SUNI who doesnt have email I would send it to him. He also repairs/recast the steering wheel hub if yours is cracked so bad you want it fixed.He sold home made steering wheels made of different types wood. He repaired a old hub and after recasting the cracked part he added new wood- most likely using Alpine wheels from which he removed the plastic from around the steel circle under the orginal plastic(for lack of the correct name of THAT material). He did excellent work, so Im passing this on to the Alpine list as well in case someone needs his service.
>>Thanks in advance.
>>TtT
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Thu Jul 16 22:52:53 2009
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:52:53 -0700
Subject: [Alpines] [Tigers] KanN TALL
In-Reply-To: <d86d088a0907162150x1ba8fefp93ead18f7bd907be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090717041057.NNIWU.2190.root@hrndva-web07-z01>	
	<4A5FFF63.5030406@mayfco.com>
	<d86d088a0907162150x1ba8fefp93ead18f7bd907be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A6003A5.9060508@mayfco.com>

But not in the stock shape or size?

mayf
michael king wrote:

> I have seen the K&N sweitrl top style filters on a tiger. the round 
> one with a drop base to get a deeper area and a filtered top hat.
>
> 2009/7/17 drmayf <drmayf at mayfco.com <mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com>>
>
>     This thread on K&N has got me to thinking..has anyone used a flow
>     bench to test the stock air cleaner and  filter? I wonder how it
>     actually flows? Iffn I was making a new one, I would make it such
>     that the side wings on the air filter, top and botom, were also of
>     filter materials. More air flow in the same space..
>
>     Forgive me for highjacking the filter story for a moment...
>     mayf
>
>     mmichels at socal.rr.com <mailto:mmichels at socal.rr.com> wrote:
>
>         The next taller K and N is two inches versus the stock height
>         of 1-1/2. It works well, but look out for clearance to hood.
>         Summit Racing has it under part number KNN-E-3710. It is
>         listed as 13-1/2 inch diameter "round" but it is plenty
>         flexible and will take on the oval shape permanently after
>         installed in the stock air cleaner.
>         ---- Tony Somebody <achd73 at yahoo.com
>         <mailto:achd73 at yahoo.com>> wrote:  
>
>             Theo posted the number for a KanN filter which is the same
>             diameter but thicker than the orginal most of us are
>             running. I thought I saved that email but cant locate it.
>             If anyone else saved it or if Theo doesnt mind, please
>             repost that KanN part number. I promised a chap at SUNI
>             who doesnt have email I would send it to him. He also
>             repairs/recast the steering wheel hub if yours is cracked
>             so bad you want it fixed.He sold home made steering wheels
>             made of different types wood. He repaired a old hub and
>             after recasting the cracked part he added new wood- most
>             likely using Alpine wheels from which he removed the
>             plastic from around the steel circle under the orginal
>             plastic(for lack of the correct name of THAT material). He
>             did excellent work, so Im passing this on to the Alpine
>             list as well in case someone needs his service.
>             Thanks in advance.
>             TtT
>             _______________________________________________
>             Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
>             Tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net>
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>
>             http://www.team.net/archive
>              
>
>         _______________________________________________
>         Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
>         Tigers at autox.team.net <mailto:Tigers at autox.team.net>
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>
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From bmounce at rcn.com  Sun Jul 19 10:12:52 2009
From: bmounce at rcn.com (Bill Mounce)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:12:52 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] balance spring
Message-ID: <006f01ca088b$c4cfceb0$4e6f6c10$@com>

Hi guys n gals

 

Is there a sane way to remove the trunk lid balance spring without
disassembling the folding arm to which it attaches?  I need to get to my
fuel sending unit.  While it makes me feel flush to always show a full tank,
I suspect a true reading will be more useful.

 

Thank you, 

 

Bill Mounce

SV number something or another (it starts with a 'B')

From achd73 at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 20 01:51:17 2009
From: achd73 at yahoo.com (Tony Somebody)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:51:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Alpines] balance spring
In-Reply-To: <000001ca08cd$eba027a0$c2e076e0$@com>
Message-ID: <431985.56563.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

HAPPY 54th to Bill Mounce today. He thinks his memory might be slipping. It gets worse Bill. Just remember to never call you wife your girlfriends name or visa versa. Always remember to put the plug back in before replacing the old oil with new and never drive a Sunbeam without a fire extinguisher and a flashlight or torch as my Limey friends would say. The prince of darkness explains the torch and the extinguisher is like insurance. You never need it if you have it but forget to renew the policy or the bottle and see just how fast its required. Besides, it maybe a friend who you save with either item. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
TtT

--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Bill Mounce <bmounce at rcn.com> wrote:

> From: Bill Mounce <bmounce at rcn.com>
> Subject: RE: [Alpines] balance spring
> To: "'Tony Somebody'" <achd73 at yahoo.com>
> Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 7:06 PM
> Haha, I turn 54 tomorrow, not much
> you can tell me about poor memory!!
> 
> Thanks for the tip, 
> 
> B.

From JACranwell at aol.com  Tue Jul 21 14:06:47 2009
From: JACranwell at aol.com (JACranwell at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:06:47 EDT
Subject: [Alpines] balance spring
Message-ID: <d60.52897c12.379779d7@aol.com>

Yes, A stout rope, and a lot of elbow grease, and a lot of  confidence.
 
Julian.

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 23 10:09:43 2009
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:09:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Alpines] THE WOODSTOCK (NY) BRITISH CAR MEET - SATURDAY,
	SEPTEMBER 26th
Message-ID: <30819801.1248365383899.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

The Second Annual
WOODSTOCK BRITISH CAR MEET
(British motorcycles & pre-1980 European cars invited too)

SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER  26th  -  10:00AM to 4:PM
(Rain Date: Sunday, September 27)

AT THE WOODSTOCK PLAYHOUSE
Intersection of Route 212 and Route 375, Woodstock, NY

Join more than 100 British car owners for a smashing display of classic, 
quirky, and lovable British classics, right in the heart of Woodstock New 
York and the Catskill Mountains.

Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Projects-in-progress, daily drivers, 
and vintage racers are just as welcome as Concours quality show cars. 
If it's British, bring it!   The heart of the picturesque and historic hamlet of 
Woodstock is just a few minutes walk from the Playhouse, offering shops, 
restaurants, live music, & much more.

Cars will enter the field starting at 10:AM, and the fun goes on all day. 
Around 2 pm, we'll present awards, including People's Choice and the 
Longest Distance Traveled. Spectators are welcome -  FREE parking 
is available.

The registration fee for British cars is $15 per car at the gate; there is no 
pre-registration.  All of the proceeds from this event benefit the non-profit 
Woodstock Playhouse. non-profit Food and Refreshments will be available

DIRECTIONS
>From NYS Thruway / I-87: Take Exit 19 (Kingston) and head west on Route 
28 for 5.8 miles (Speed Trap - stay under 50 mph) then turn right onto Route 
375 North, which will end 2.9 miles later at Route 212 and the Playhouse.
>From Saugerties (Exit 20) Take Route 212 West into the hamlet of Woodstock.
The intersection of Route 375 will be on your left; the Playhouse entrance is on 
your right. From points west: Take Route 28 East to Route 375 North. Travel 
2.9 miles, and the road will end at Route 212 and the Playhouse.
FOR MORE INFORMATION: e-mail Woodstock.British at gmail.com