From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Sat Aug  1 16:51:13 2009
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 18:51:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Alpines] 2009 Ventura, CA British Car Meet Report and Pix
Message-ID: <3694808.1249167073904.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Anyone interested in the Ventura British Car Meet can read a report and see the pictures from the meet - click on the link below - It was fun and there were a number of unusual cars that are not often seen anywhere in the States.  Check it out!!


http://www.allcarcentral.com/Ventura_British_Car_Meet_2009.html 

Regards,

Rick Feibusch
British Car Network
Venice, California

From bmounce at rcn.com  Tue Aug  4 05:24:34 2009
From: bmounce at rcn.com (Bill Mounce)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:24:34 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] fuel sender measurement
Message-ID: <00c901ca14f6$24acdfa0$6e069ee0$@com>

Hello all

 

My fuel sender is not working, and worse, it is leaking.  I am going to pull
it out and bench test it (i.e. stare at it with a slack jaw and puzzled
look, most likely).  Prior to yanking it, I wish to fabricate a metal disk
to replace it for the time being.  Would someone have either a left hand
tank, or a sending unit, which they could measure and provide me with the
correct diameter?  That way I don't have to leave it open (we have an open
container law in my township!).

 

Thanks in advance, 

 

Bill Mounce

Easton, PA

1967 SV

From jacranwell at aol.com  Tue Aug  4 10:13:43 2009
From: jacranwell at aol.com (jacranwell at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:13:43 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] fuel sender measurement
In-Reply-To: <00c901ca14f6$24acdfa0$6e069ee0$@com>
References: <00c901ca14f6$24acdfa0$6e069ee0$@com>
Message-ID: <8CBE335AC061B22-14CC-75@webmail-mh46.sysops.aol.com>

Bill,

I have a spare lying around in my shop somewhere, so I'll measure it this PM, and let you have the dims.

If it's leaking, it's likely to be the rubber washer/seal.

By the way, another potential cause for the gague not working is the balance pipe between the LH and RH tank being pinched/blocked. This prevents the LH tank from filling, and reads empty, even when the RH tank is full.

Julian.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Mounce <bmounce at rcn.com>
To: alpines at autox.team.net
CC: 'RICHARD FRITZ' <wizzzbang at verizon.net>
Sent: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 12:24
Subject: [Alpines] fuel sender measurement



Hello all

 

My fuel sender is not working, and worse, it is leaking.  I am going to pull
it out and bench test it (i.e. stare at it with a slack jaw and puzzled
look, most likely).  Prior to yanking it, I wish to fabricate a metal disk
to replace it for the time being.  Would someone have either a left hand
tank, or a sending unit, which they could measure and provide me with the
correct diameter?  That way I don't have to leave it open (we have an open
container law in my township!).

 

Thanks in advance, 

 

Bill Mounce

Easton, PA

1967 SV
Alpines at autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/alpines

http://www.team.net/archive


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From JACranwell at aol.com  Tue Aug  4 14:23:11 2009
From: JACranwell at aol.com (JACranwell at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:23:11 EDT
Subject: [Alpines] fuel sender measurement
Message-ID: <bdc.50226bac.37a9f2af@aol.com>

Bill, after much rummaging around in the attic, I found the sender unit,  
photo attached.
 
The dimensions are as follows:
 
1. Sender Unit surface (top on photo) : 62mm
2. Rubber seal : 64mm
3. Locking ring : 66mm
 
So I guess the cap you're making should be 62mm.
 
Sorry I have only metric but blame it on the vernier guage.
 
You'd be welcome to this set, but but the cost of shipping to the US from  
Blighty would be prohibitive. If you can wait a spell, I could send back 
with  one of my brothers in Utah, Buffalo/NY, or Boston next time they drop in.
 
Julian.

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_2828.jpg]

From JACranwell at aol.com  Tue Aug  4 14:25:35 2009
From: JACranwell at aol.com (JACranwell at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:25:35 EDT
Subject: [Alpines] fuel sender measurement
Message-ID: <c5e.5d4c5248.37a9f33f@aol.com>

Sorry, I just realised I've bombed the entire list with a random photo, and 
 broken one of the cardinal rules. Abject apologies from a dumb limey. 
Please  ignore.
 
Julian.

From mrtebo at shaw.ca  Tue Aug  4 15:58:12 2009
From: mrtebo at shaw.ca (Mary and Ron Tebo)
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:58:12 -0600
Subject: [Alpines] fuel sender measurement
In-Reply-To: <00c901ca14f6$24acdfa0$6e069ee0$@com>
References: <00c901ca14f6$24acdfa0$6e069ee0$@com>
Message-ID: <4A78AEF4.5070306@shaw.ca>

Bill:

Before you get excited and do unnecesssary work, have you checked your 
ground? The fuel gauge, and others,  will display erratic readings if 
they have a poor ground. Also, I will check my archives to see if I have 
anything to add to Julian's info. (Of course, you need to deal with the 
leak first).

Ron Tebo

Bill Mounce wrote:
> Hello all
>
>  
>
> My fuel sender is not working, and worse, it is leaking.  I am going to pull
> it out and bench test it (i.e. stare at it with a slack jaw and puzzled
> look, most likely).  Prior to yanking it, I wish to fabricate a metal disk
> to replace it for the time being.  Would someone have either a left hand
> tank, or a sending unit, which they could measure and provide me with the
> correct diameter?  That way I don't have to leave it open (we have an open
> container law in my township!).
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance, 
>
>  
>
> Bill Mounce
>
> Easton, PA
>
> 1967 SV

From mrtebo at shaw.ca  Wed Aug  5 06:50:47 2009
From: mrtebo at shaw.ca (Mary and Ron Tebo)
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2009 06:50:47 -0600
Subject: [Alpines] fuel sender measurement
In-Reply-To: <00c901ca14f6$24acdfa0$6e069ee0$@com>
References: <00c901ca14f6$24acdfa0$6e069ee0$@com>
Message-ID: <4A798027.8000702@shaw.ca>

Bill:

In checking my archive,  I noticed that Julian says that you can check 
your fuel or temp sender by grounding your sender wire, and if the gauge 
goes to top, the sender needs replacement. Also, below is a description 
by Jarrid of what to do if the voltage stabilizer is the problem. Hope 
this helps.

Ron Tebo

Subject: RE: Gauge problems
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 10:35:20 -0800
From: Jarrid Gross <JGross at econolite.com>
To: Christopher Albers <Christopher.Albers at bubbs.biola.edu>,
     alpines at autox.team.net

Christopher wrote,

 >Short of replacing the low voltage stabilizer, how can I test to see if it
 >has failed?

2 ways.

1) Get a voltmeter, and measure the gauge supply terminal voltage
with respect to ground (case wire daisy chain).
Should measure about +10v average V.
If you use an analog meter the reading might be noisy
due to the nature of how the voltage stabilizer works.
A digital meter should read stabile readings.

2) Remove the voltage stabilizer, and connect raw +12v (batt+) voltage
to the gauge supply terminals, and verify if the gauges now read more
or less correctly, they gauges wont be very accurate, but should display
close to real numbers.  If it does, the voltage stabilizer needs replacing.

Some time back I designed a solid state replacement for the mechanical
voltage stabilizer, and Sergio Dimarmo put it in his car.

If Sergio is still lurking...

1) Is it all still working?

2) Why dont you call anymore (we miss you).

Jarrid

Bill Mounce wrote:
> Hello all
>
>  
>
> My fuel sender is not working, and worse, it is leaking.  I am going to pull
> it out and bench test it (i.e. stare at it with a slack jaw and puzzled
> look, most likely).  Prior to yanking it, I wish to fabricate a metal disk
> to replace it for the time being.  Would someone have either a left hand
> tank, or a sending unit, which they could measure and provide me with the
> correct diameter?  That way I don't have to leave it open (we have an open
> container law in my township!).
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance, 
>
>  
>
> Bill Mounce
>
> Easton, PA
>
> 1967 SV

From jsrlee at shaw.ca  Thu Aug  6 09:03:28 2009
From: jsrlee at shaw.ca (John and Sandra Lee)
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:03:28 -0600
Subject: [Alpines] Recovering the seats
Message-ID: <4A7AF0C0.7030301@shaw.ca>

Last week, I am positive I found a nice detailed article on the 'net 
with pictures on how to recover the seats (Alpine Series V / Tiger 
MKIA). Stupidly, I forgot to bookmark it and now I can't find it again.
Does such an article exist, or was it a product of my imagination?

Thanks,

Ryan and John Lee

From parlanti at comcast.net  Thu Aug  6 10:04:54 2009
From: parlanti at comcast.net (parlanti at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:04:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Alpines] Recovering the seats
In-Reply-To: <4A7AF0C0.7030301@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <1830285847.8887341249574694860.JavaMail.root@sz0120a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Ryan and John, 



I wrote the article that is hosted on the Tigersunited.com site: 



http://tigersunited.com/techtips/ParlantiSeats/JoeParlantiSeatsPt1.asp 



Hope this helps, 



Joe 

B382000026 

Joseph V. Parlanti 
16048 Copen Meadow Dr 
North Potomac, Md. 20878 
Cell - 301-461-0626 
Email - Parlanti at comcast.net 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John and Sandra Lee" <jsrlee at shaw.ca> 
To: alpines at autox.team.net 
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 11:03:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [Alpines] Recovering the seats 

Last week, I am positive I found a nice detailed article on the 'net 
with pictures on how to recover the seats (Alpine Series V / Tiger 
MKIA). Stupidly, I forgot to bookmark it and now I can't find it again. 
Does such an article exist, or was it a product of my imagination? 

Thanks, 

Ryan and John Lee 


snip ... 

From jsrlee at shaw.ca  Thu Aug  6 11:00:14 2009
From: jsrlee at shaw.ca (John and Sandra Lee)
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:00:14 -0600
Subject: [Alpines] Recovering the seats
In-Reply-To: <1830285847.8887341249574694860.JavaMail.root@sz0120a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1830285847.8887341249574694860.JavaMail.root@sz0120a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4A7B0C1E.90402@shaw.ca>

Thanks Joe,  I must have been blind earlier when looking at the TU website!


parlanti at comcast.net wrote:
>
> Ryan and John,
>
>  
>
> I wrote the article that is hosted on the Tigersunited.com site:
>
>  
>
> http://tigersunited.com/techtips/ParlantiSeats/JoeParlantiSeatsPt1.asp
>
>  
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>  
>
> Joe
>
> B382000026
>
> Joseph V. Parlanti
> 16048 Copen Meadow Dr
> North Potomac, Md. 20878
> Cell - 301-461-0626
> Email - Parlanti at comcast.net
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John and Sandra Lee" <jsrlee at shaw.ca>
> To: alpines at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 11:03:28 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [Alpines] Recovering the seats
>
> Last week, I am positive I found a nice detailed article on the 'net
> with pictures on how to recover the seats (Alpine Series V / Tiger
> MKIA). Stupidly, I forgot to bookmark it and now I can't find it again.
> Does such an article exist, or was it a product of my imagination?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ryan and John Lee
>
> snip ...

From jsrlee at shaw.ca  Sat Aug  8 23:20:34 2009
From: jsrlee at shaw.ca (THE LEES)
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:20:34 -0500
Subject: [Alpines] Tiger Temperature Sender
Message-ID: <d16ded34560f2.4a7e1652@shaw.ca>

My father and I are about ready to fire up his MkIA Tiger for the first time
since his boss brought it to him for a clutch job...


... in 1973.

One thing (among many) we are confused about is the temperature sender.

The engine in the car (which was in the car when he bought it) is a 302 with a
289 intake.  There's a hole in the intake, which is where the Smiths
temperature sender has been sitting since the engine was rebuilt in the early
90s. We know that the original 260's temp sender would have been in a
T-fitting in the heater hoses.  The temp sender threads into the current in
take (a 2BBL 289 intake) but feels pretty sloppy going in, so this is probably
an American-threaded 289 intake.

Short of taking the intake off, filling the hole and retapping it for the
Smiths gauge, what can we do?  Put a lot of teflon tape on and hope it does
not leak?  Plug the hole and try to find this mysterious T-fitting? We'd
prefer to keep the stock gauge as we are trying to go with all stock gauges.
Is it possible to find an American sender with similar resistance values?

Cheers,

Ryan Lee
B382000073 LRXFE (Dad's Tiger)
B395000793 LRX (My Alpine)

From carlynneracing at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug  9 08:03:19 2009
From: carlynneracing at sbcglobal.net (Carl McLelland)
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 07:03:19 -0700
Subject: [Alpines] Tiger Temperature Sender
References: <d16ded34560f2.4a7e1652@shaw.ca>
Message-ID: <2701CB2351C64CB1AD00AAC6081F5889@owner33025ef87>

I'm not familiar with the application so I can't be specific there, but here's
an alternative.

I'm guessing the manifold has an SAE 'pipe thread' and the sending unit has a
British pipe thread. They are close, but close only counts in horseshoes and
hand grenades. One alternative would be to plug the manifold with a brass plug
AFTER you have drilled and tapped the plug with the appropriate size British
tap.

Another solution would be to find a port in the cooling system where the
temperature sender could be threaded in but this may not be the ideal
solution.

Finally, you could call Dave Bean Engineering (209) 754-5802. Among other
things they are the authorized supplier for Lotus vintage parts. They sell
quite a variety of fitting and adapters specifically for adapting BSP to NPT
and BSP to AN; and vice versa. Dealing with Lotus racers the past 30+ years
they 'speak the language'.

Hope this helps..
    Carl    Lotus 61 FF
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: THE LEES
  To: alpines at autox.team.net
  Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:20 PM
  Subject: [Alpines] Tiger Temperature Sender


  My father and I are about ready to fire up his MkIA Tiger for the first
time
  since his boss brought it to him for a clutch job...


  ... in 1973.

  One thing (among many) we are confused about is the temperature sender.

  The engine in the car (which was in the car when he bought it) is a 302 with
a
  289 intake.  There's a hole in the intake, which is where the Smiths
  temperature sender has been sitting since the engine was rebuilt in the
early
  90s. We know that the original 260's temp sender would have been in a
  T-fitting in the heater hoses.  The temp sender threads into the current in
  take (a 2BBL 289 intake) but feels pretty sloppy going in, so this is
probably
  an American-threaded 289 intake.

  Short of taking the intake off, filling the hole and retapping it for the
  Smiths gauge, what can we do?  Put a lot of teflon tape on and hope it does
  not leak?  Plug the hole and try to find this mysterious T-fitting? We'd
  prefer to keep the stock gauge as we are trying to go with all stock
gauges.
  Is it possible to find an American sender with similar resistance values?

  Cheers,

  Ryan Lee
  B382000073 LRXFE (Dad's Tiger)
  B395000793 LRX (My Alpine)
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From bmounce at rcn.com  Thu Aug 13 19:02:36 2009
From: bmounce at rcn.com (Bill Mounce)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:02:36 -0400
Subject: [Alpines] (no subject)
Message-ID: <006101ca1c7a$e9a28310$bce78930$@com>

I saw a clip of the movie Woodstock on the news (it's the 40th anniversary),
and could swear I saw a bunch of hippies piled on a Sunbeam driving through
the grass (the ground cover kind) towards the concert.  Anyone else see
this?

 

Bill Mounce

67 SV

From awtiger at cox.net  Thu Aug 13 20:27:06 2009
From: awtiger at cox.net (awtiger)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:27:06 -0500
Subject: [Alpines] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <006101ca1c7a$e9a28310$bce78930$@com>
References: <006101ca1c7a$e9a28310$bce78930$@com>
Message-ID: <0BBF5ACADA4F46A6B577BB31DE95B722@awtigerPC>

Yep...it was either a Series IV or a V.

Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
B382001600LRXFE (TAC #740)
B9006857LRX

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Mounce" <bmounce at rcn.com>
To: <alpines at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:02 PM
Subject: [Alpines] (no subject)


>I saw a clip of the movie Woodstock on the news (it's the 40th 
>anniversary),
> and could swear I saw a bunch of hippies piled on a Sunbeam driving 
> through
> the grass (the ground cover kind) towards the concert.  Anyone else see
> this?
>
>
>
> Bill Mounce
>
> 67 SV
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From mrtebo at shaw.ca  Fri Aug 14 06:08:53 2009
From: mrtebo at shaw.ca (Mary and Ron Tebo)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 06:08:53 -0600
Subject: [Alpines] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <0BBF5ACADA4F46A6B577BB31DE95B722@awtigerPC>
References: <006101ca1c7a$e9a28310$bce78930$@com>
	<0BBF5ACADA4F46A6B577BB31DE95B722@awtigerPC>
Message-ID: <4A8553D5.6040903@shaw.ca>

We should add this to the Movies List, but the archive hasn't been 
updated in ten years, and I don't know if T.J. Higgins is still out there!

Ron Tebo

awtiger wrote:
> Yep...it was either a Series IV or a V.
>
> Andy Walker
> Edmond, OK
> B382001600LRXFE (TAC #740)
> B9006857LRX
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Mounce" <bmounce at rcn.com>
> To: <alpines at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:02 PM
> Subject: [Alpines] (no subject)
>
>
>> I saw a clip of the movie Woodstock on the news (it's the 40th 
>> anniversary),
>> and could swear I saw a bunch of hippies piled on a Sunbeam driving 
>> through
>> the grass (the ground cover kind) towards the concert.  Anyone else see
>> this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Mounce
>>
>> 67 SV
>> _______________________________________________
>> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>>
>> Alpines at autox.team.net
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>>
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Aug 14 21:28:56 2009
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:28:56 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Alpines] Oh no, not again!
Message-ID: <20090815032856.0C3C22E09A@bradakis.com>

Seems that AOL has once again started blocking
Team.Net.  What fun.

Why do I even bother?  Trust me, it isn't from the
big bucks constantly rolling in as dozens of people
donate to Team.Net on a daily basis!  So it goes.

mjb.

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Sun Aug 16 12:04:19 2009
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 11:04:19 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Alpines] THE FREE 2009 BRISBANE MARINA BRITISH MEET
Message-ID: <18991363.1250445859486.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

        THE 2009 BRISBANE MARINA BRITISH MEET

Come join your British car friends in the San Francisco Bay
Area for a smashing weekend at the Brisbane Marina for
our 32nd Annual British Car Meet and Tour.

     www.allcarcentral.com/thebritishcarnetwork.html

                              ABSOLUTELY FREE

SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 12th   -  TOUR TO THE SEA

Leave anytime between 8:30 and 10:30AM .  This tour takes
you on some of the most beautiful roads in the area over to
Cameronbs Pub in Half Moon Bay.  There are two optional
routes.   One direct,  yet still quite scenic,  and the other,  a
longer  more  challenging drive.

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 13th   -   BRUNCH & CAR SHOW

Starts at 8:30AM and goes on into the afternoon.  This will
be a  no fee,  no frills,  no awards gathering of British car
enthusiasts.  The Yacht Club will offer an optional brunch
and the Brisbane Lions will have a BBQ lunch available all
afternoon.

HOTEL PACKAGE:   At the Radisson Hotel  in the Marina
for  $89.00 per night on Friday or Saturday.  You must book
your room by August 28th. For reservations contact:
Carole Burton at Santa Cruz Travel
Phone:  831-632-2323
Email: <carole at santacruztravel.com>

DIRECTIONS:  The Brisbane Marina is located on Sierra Point,
just east of the Bayshore Freeway (101) in Brisbane,   between
San Francisco and the SF Airport.  Take the Brisbane/Sierra
Point Exit and follow the signs to the Marina.

INFORMATION:
310-392-6605
britishcarnetwork at gmail.com

www.allcarcentral.com/thebritishcarnetwork.html

From jsrlee at shaw.ca  Tue Aug 18 17:38:59 2009
From: jsrlee at shaw.ca (John and Sandra Lee)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:38:59 -0600
Subject: [Alpines] They don't call it an 'idiot' light for nothing
Message-ID: <4A8B3B93.8010308@shaw.ca>

Discovered today that the big problem with my wiring job (Mk1A converted 
to Alternator) - big problem being that the system wasn't charging had 
to do with the fact that I didn't have a bulb in the idiot light 
circuit, which interrupted power to the 'I' terminal on the Voltage 
Regulator... oops!   So I'm going to make sure to put a resistor in 
parallel with that light so that it ever burns out it won't kill my 
charging circuit (like the stock MK2).

I notice also on the stock MK2 wiring diagram a 6RA Relay (which Sunbeam 
Specialties refers to as a Field Isolating Relay, I'm assuming). There 
is one on my Series V Alpine, but I don't quite understand how it works 
for an Alternator-powered Tiger, as it isn't connected to the 'Field' 
circuit at all. Anyone know what this relay does in the Tiger, and if it 
is necessary?

Cheers,

Ryan Lee

p.s. Engine runs (first time since 1973) and sounds awesome!

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Sat Aug 15 09:25:13 2009
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 08:25:13 -0700
Subject: [Alpines] Back from the Salt Wars
Message-ID: <4A86D359.4080809@mayfco.com>

Mr. Moderator, this is one of many updates I send out regarding the 
efforts of the worlds fastest Sunbeam wannabe. I have been a member of 
this list for what seem slike forever. And yet, virtually every posting 
of results bounces. There are quite a number of folk on  this list who 
do like to hear of the efforts on the Bonneville salt flats, but, you 
and the strange rules you have set up seems prevent that. If you feel 
that you want to shield your list members from the exploits of the 
Worlds Fastest Suneban's activity, shoot me an email and I will 
unsubscribe from this list where I have been a member for years..

mayf
*********************************************************************
First, the goal is still unsatisfied but I now have new information that
will definitely help attain it.

Let me say a word of praise for the SCTA_BNI organization and th
evolunteers that worked this meet.  When I went to the drivers meeting
on Saturday morning it seemed as if fully 1/3 of the folk there were
first timers.  There were three courses: the standard l ong course, the
standard short course and teh "special short course". Allthose who
needed licensing and cars that need verification runs were to use the
special short course. This worked to absolute perfection!  The salt was
near perfect as well. There waas a time or two that we drove out to the
special course and there were more vehicles in line there than the other
two combined.  SCTA-BNI: Gentlemen, that worked to perfection!  I know
it wont always be so, but this year was fantastic!   After the drivers
meeting, we dug the car out of the trailer and went to inspection. There
were no vehicles in the tech safty inspection line! Noting amiss in the
line at all, except that I think I received some bad information that I
will need to check directly with teh SCTA folk about: that was inspector
said my SA2005 helment would need to be replaced next year? Huh?  And
the other was that I should move my arm restraints to my gloves at the
wrists. I hav enever heard of that one either. So until I see something
in print on that one I will wait...

Ok, so Sunday we decided to make a run in the mid afternoon. I needed to
kinda train my number twop son so we took some time. My plan was to make
an easy pass on the short course, not special course,  pull the chute
and check for stability. Went up to about 125 give or take , pulle dth
echute and dang.... the car slowed down like a banshee and I turned out
tot he return road and looked back after getting out of the car..chute
was still in the bag, lol...  Very bad packing job on my part.  Still
teh car handled very good and no ill manners at all. Next day, Monday,
we took out time and repacked the chute again using our preferred
methid. Fueled up the car, checked the plugs and towed out to the short
course.  Hardly any line waiting at all. Suited up, got in and ran. This
time I wanted ot up the anti some so made a 156 pass, pulled the chute
and it worked just fine this time and the car handled smoothly and
safely.  Lots of good data on that run.  Tues, wash the chute, repack it
set up the car and off we go again. Still on the short course.  I made
an angryier pass this time making 183 in the 3rd mile of the short
course. That is pretty consistent with the other pass iI had made a year
or so ago at 184.  Chute worked as advertised again and the car handled
pretty doggone well.  Bad news. NO data. It started taking data then
just quit.  Oh, on an angry run, the engine room get dang hot, lol...
Need to wear cotton gloves to lift the hood. Ok, so, next run was set up
for the long course. I turned up the boost regulator a bit, fueld the
car, towed out to the long course. This time in the morning befor lunch.
Needed to do that so we could get the car ready to load as we needed to
return our kid to SLC to catch a flight home next day.  Again absolutely
no wait time! Finished suiting up, turned on  the laptop for data
recording, got in the car. Starter said go and I went, finished the run
at 186 in the 4th mile.  well, that was disappointing. Had a bit of a
cross wind that caused a bit of a moment when teh chute blossomed but
drove out of it by keep ing my foot in it then slowed rapidy well before
the 5th mile.

PPost mortem. No damaged parts, heck, the oil still looks near new!
Ditto the plugs. Talked to a team that runs an 84 inch wheel base alpha
romeo to 227 mph. So, short cars can be driven quite successfully. He
shared his secrest with me. Slow the steering waaay down, make it
understeer like crazy, hard front springs, soft rear springs.  So I have
some tragets for improvements in the driveability department.  I am now
convinced that the engine is being hampered by my poor choice of cam,
lifters, valve springs being used and those will be changed in what ever
manner the cam company (I'll check them all) says.  I am truely
diasppointed with the data logging experience and while the tweecer has
been giving good service, it is not a race system. I will have my bud
Dave D help with that department.

Whew...

more later... I have only been home about an hour, lol....

mayf

From gstrom99 at joimail.com  Fri Aug 21 07:17:28 2009
From: gstrom99 at joimail.com (Gary)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:17:28 -0500
Subject: [Alpines] Back from the Salt Wars
Message-ID: <C12ECB89E38C4A1A9F22834AB565CF8E@RacerX>

YES!  Please keep the updates coming.  Good to here the runs went pretty well.
Are there pics (or better yet - video) somewhere?

Gary

From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Aug 23 12:18:01 2009
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:18:01 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Alpines] List interruption
Message-ID: <20090823181801.5F3722E0CF@bradakis.com>

First off, let me say thanks to those who have recently contributed to
the continued running of Team.Net - I do appreciate it.

I think I have all the AOL folks back on the list as before.
If you're an AOL subscriber and you didn't get this email, let me know ;-)

Monday, August 24, the local power company will be doing some work in
my neighborhood.  Power may be off here at the house for several
hours.  I'll be shutting down the servers that morning, and they could
be off until later that afternoon.  So if you send off a message and
don't see it for a while, or you can't get to the archives or forums,
be patient, things will get back to normal.

mjb.

From mrtebo at shaw.ca  Tue Aug 25 04:57:37 2009
From: mrtebo at shaw.ca (Mary and Ron Tebo)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:57:37 -0600
Subject: [Alpines] Back from the Salt Wars
In-Reply-To: <4A86D359.4080809@mayfco.com>
References: <4A86D359.4080809@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <4A93C3A1.6010506@shaw.ca>

dr. mayf:

I also enjoyed your update, although the chute failure was kind of 
scary. (As a former skydiver with a self-packed malfunction, I can 
attest that careful packing is important.) I would also like a link to 
pictures or videos, if any are available!
Thanks again for the great description of your latest effort,

Ron Tebo

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Sun Aug 30 10:59:15 2009
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 09:59:15 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Alpines] THE WOODSTOCK (NY)  BRITISH CAR MEET - SATURDAY, SEPT. 26
Message-ID: <14036767.1251651555810.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Second Annual
WOODSTOCK BRITISH CAR MEET
(British motorcycles & pre-1980 European cars invited too)

SATURDAY, SEPT. 26
10 am to 4 pm
(Rain Date: Sunday, September 27)

Woodstock Playhouse
Intersection of Route 212 and Route 375, Woodstock, NY

Join more than 100 British car owners for a smashing display of classic, quirky, and lovable British classics, right in the heart of Woodstock New York and the Catskill Mountains.

Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Projects-in-progress, daily drivers, and vintage racers are just as welcome as Concours d'Elegance show cars. If it's British, bring it!

Cars will enter the field starting at 10 am, and the fun goes on all day. Around 2 pm, we'll present awards, including People's Choice and the Longest Distance Traveled.

Spectators are welcome, and FREE parking is available. The heart of the picturesque historic hamlet of Woodstock is just minutes' walk from the Playhouse, offering shops,
restaurants, live music, and much more.

The registration fee for British cars is $15 per car at the gate; there is no pre-registration.
All proceeds from this event benefit the Woodstock Playhouse ( a non-profit org. )

Food and Refreshments will be available

DIRECTIONS

>From NYS Thruway / I-87: Take Exit 19 (Kingston) and head west on Route 28 for 5.8 miles (Speed Trap - stay under 50 mph) then turn right onto Route 375 North, which will end 2.9 miles later at Route 212 and the Playhouse.

>From Saugerties (Exit 20) Take Route 212 West into the hamlet of Woodstock. The intersection of Route 375 will be on your left; the Playhouse entrance is on your right.

>From points west: Take Route 28 East to Route 375 North. Travel 2.9 miles, and the road will end at Route 212 and the Playhouse.

FOR MORE INFORMATION: e-mail Woodstock.British at gmail.com