[Alpines] Sunbeam Alpine Series II Rear Springs

[Allan Ballard]

Ron,

Ithink the SII springs are 1/2 inch different in length based upon
this
>From SAOCA:
Allan
 
Rear Suspension

Series I

    * Length - 44
    * Width - 1.75
    * Debth - 1.547
    * Number of blades - 8

Series II

    * Length - 44
    * Width - 2.25
    * Debth - 1.172
    * Number of blades - 6

Series 3

    * Length - 43.5
    * Width - 2.25
    * Debth - 1.172
    * Number of blades - 6

Series IV

    * Length - 43.5
    * Width - 2.25
    * Debth - .984
    * Number of blades - 5

Series V

    * Length -
    * Width - 2.25
    * Debth -
    * Number of blades 
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Tebo [mailto:mrtebo at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:00 PM
To: Allan Ballard
Cc: alpines
Subject: Re: [Alpines] Sunbeam Alpine Series II Rear Springs

Allan:

I believe they were actually the same spring with an extra leaf added,
but Tiger owners may know better! Here is something out of my archive
that supports my belief.

Ron Tebo

Subject:
Re: [Alpines] [Tigers] Speaking of Panhard Bars...
From:
Marc James Small <marcsmall at comcast.net>
Date:
Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:54:56 -0400
To:
drmayf at mayfco.com, "tigers at autox.team.net" <tigers at autox.team.net>,
Alpines <alpines at autox.team.net>

At 04:09 PM 7/5/2008, drmayf wrote:
 >Are there any other cars that use leaf springs like our cars and a
>panhard bar? The use of a panhard bar in our case is just counter
>intuitive to me. The leaf springs keep the rear end located and that
>would seem to make the panhard bar redundant. Yeah, I know about
wheel  >hop, but a panhard bar or any other kind of lateral location
linkage is  >to keep the rear centered.  If I put coil overs on the
rear of my car,  >then, yeah, a locating bar would be needed, as well
as some trailing  >linkage for fore and aft movement.
 >
 >So why did they install it? Did the Alpine have one? .


The much more civilized Alpine did not need a Panhard Rod to produce
manueverability which, all else being equal, routinely leaves Tigers
in the dust on any sort of decent back road.

The original Tigers were produced by mushing up Alpine bodies and the
only suspension modifications were those necessary to fit that
ungainly Ford mill into a decently sized engine compartment.  Hence,
the rear suspension remained the same -- a torn rotator cuff (damn!
there goes my career pitching for the Atlanta Braves, and I really WAS
looking forward to a perfect World Series game against the detestable
Yankees or the even more detestable Boston Dead Sox) makes it hard for
me to dig out my parts manuals.  I suspect without checking these that
the Alpine IIIa/IV rear springs were identical to those on the Alpine
260 if not for those on the Alpine V and Tiger II.

If you upgrade your rear springs to something more in line with that
unGodly amount of power that barbaric engine provides, a Panhard Rod
becomes unnecessary.

(The above is all written in good fun save for the cmments about the
Yankees and the Boston Morons, and, yes, I grin as I write these
words.  You guys all live on the Left Coast and therefore have no
knowledge of REAL baseball.)

Marc



Allan Ballard wrote:

>Are Tiger leaf springs and Alpine SII leafs the same length .. ??