<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"> Bought my first TR6, a 69 in 1971 sold it a a couple of years later. Then my second was a 71, I kept that a couple of years and bought my first new car, a 1973 240Z. I had that car 15 years. Modified it and Tracked it at BridgeHampton as well as autoX. Truly loved that car.solid, quiet and comfortable. But somehow when it was time to buy another sports car, the triumph was the car choice. I’ve had this one for 25 years and still smitten. A couple of pictures attached.<div><img alt="image0.jpeg" src="cid:D7AFCCFD-C2F6-45F7-BE83-D7434F6AF45D"><img alt="image1.jpeg" src="cid:45D74F8E-B0B0-4A95-96F6-18914A60045E"><img alt="image2.jpeg" src="cid:5B520FAE-F7EC-4C25-9065-E2CA815716DC"><br><br><div dir="ltr">Mitch Seff</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 6, 2023, at 9:24 AM, Jim Hurley <jimhurle@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>A big draw back for the Datsun was the lack of a soft top.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim Hurley</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 7:40 AM <<a href="mailto:6pack-request@autox.team.net">6pack-request@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Send 6pack mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. Re: [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z (Alex & Janet Thomson)<br>
2. Re: [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z (Robert Rochlin)<br>
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Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 20:53:43 -0500<br>
From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <<a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net" target="_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>><br>
To: "'Bob'" <<a href="mailto:yellowtr@adelphia.net" target="_blank">yellowtr@adelphia.net</a>>, <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>, "'six<br>
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Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z<br>
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And, if you can't find a good used frame, there is always the option of a<br>
new, Ratco frame. All it takes is a MasterCard! That is definitely an<br>
advantage of an "old technology" frame/body car.<br>
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Alex Thomson<br>
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From: 6pack [mailto:<a href="mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">6pack-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2023 9:45 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>; six pack<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z<br>
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Both the TR6 and the 240Z suffered from rust in the NE with roads covered<br>
with sand and salt. My 72 6 was a perfect example. I spent a ton of time<br>
cutting and welding/brazing both the body and the frame. But in the end it<br>
was more solid than its original. And thanks to Ted with his frame<br>
strengthening kit. The Z however was uni-body. A good friend had one and it<br>
basically fell apart in the early 80's. He took it to a frame shop and they<br>
couldnt do a thing with it. And there is no way to restore it. At least on<br>
the 6, if the frame was shot, you could to to a junk yard and pick up one in<br>
decent shape, same with the fenders/ doors etc. <br>
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I do see one Z at car shows but I am sure it is not a NE car. I do see quite<br>
a few 6's though. One thing that the Z had better on the engine were the<br>
carbs. A SU clone made by Hitachi. I fitted a pair on my 72 as I was not a<br>
fan of the ZS. They have been trouble free for over 15 years. <br>
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Bob<br>
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On 2/4/23 1:12 PM, dave northrup wrote:<br>
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Or, as they would say in England, TR6 vs 240 Zed<br>
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Fun article<br>
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Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 07:23:37 -0400<br>
From: Robert Rochlin <<a href="mailto:rrochlin@comcast.net" target="_blank">rrochlin@comcast.net</a>><br>
To: Triumphs <<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net" target="_blank">6pack@autox.team.net</a>"<br>
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Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z<br>
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Back in the early 70?s I had two successive 240 Z cars. The first one was a 1972 before emissions equipment, it went like hell and was dependable and durable. I drove that one until the body was so compromised from New England winters that I had to give it up. I made the mistake of then buying a 1974 TR6 with emission controls. It was a dog comprehend to the 1972. As it happens, I have a brochure reprint of a head to head comparison of the TR6 and the 240 Z originally done by Road and Track. The advantage went to the 240 Z when speed picked up and aerodynamics came into play. I?m away now, but when I get home I?ll make a PDF of the brochure and post it to the list.<br>
Best,<br>
Bob<br>
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> On Feb 5, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <<a href="mailto:aljlthomson@charter.net" target="_blank">aljlthomson@charter.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> And, if you can?t find a good used frame, there is always the option of a new, Ratco frame. All it takes is a MasterCard! That is definitely an advantage of an ?old technology? frame/body car.<br>
> <br>
> Alex Thomson<br>
> <br>
> From: 6pack [mailto:<a href="mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">6pack-bounces@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">6pack-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2023 9:45 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net" target="_blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>>; six pack<br>
> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z<br>
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> Both the TR6 and the 240Z suffered from rust in the NE with roads covered with sand and salt. My 72 6 was a perfect example. I spent a ton of time cutting and welding/brazing both the body and the frame. But in the end it was more solid than its original. And thanks to Ted with his frame strengthening kit. The Z however was uni-body. A good friend had one and it basically fell apart in the early 80's. He took it to a frame shop and they couldnt do a thing with it. And there is no way to restore it. At least on the 6, if the frame was shot, you could to to a junk yard and pick up one in decent shape, same with the fenders/ doors etc. <br>
> <br>
> I do see one Z at car shows but I am sure it is not a NE car. I do see quite a few 6's though. One thing that the Z had better on the engine were the carbs. A SU clone made by Hitachi. I fitted a pair on my 72 as I was not a fan of the ZS. They have been trouble free for over 15 years. <br>
> <br>
> Bob<br>
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> On 2/4/23 1:12 PM, dave northrup wrote:<br>
>> Or, as they would say in England, TR6 vs 240 Zed<br>
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>> Fun article<br>
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>> <a href="https://www.classicandsportscar.com/features/datsun-240z-vs-triumph-tr6-battle-america?utm_source=sfmc&utm_term=StoryImageTwo&utm_content=17115&utm_id=e9c3ec75-bab4-4bdf-b31f-3626fa20d1e3&sfmc_id=36122111&sfmc_activityid=100153f9-7a43-49c8-bb22-d4036a4de400&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_04_02_2023" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.classicandsportscar.com/features/datsun-240z-vs-triumph-tr6-battle-america?utm_source=sfmc&utm_term=StoryImageTwo&utm_content=17115&utm_id=e9c3ec75-bab4-4bdf-b31f-3626fa20d1e3&sfmc_id=36122111&sfmc_activityid=100153f9-7a43-49c8-bb22-d4036a4de400&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_04_02_2023</a> <<a href="https://www.classicandsportscar.com/features/datsun-240z-vs-triumph-tr6-battle-america?utm_source=sfmc&utm_term=StoryImageTwo&utm_content=17115&utm_id=e9c3ec75-bab4-4bdf-b31f-3626fa20d1e3&sfmc_id=36122111&sfmc_activityid=100153f9-7a43-49c8-bb22-d4036a4de400&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_04_02_2023" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.classicandsportscar.com/features/datsun-240z-vs-triumph-tr6-battle-america?utm_source=sfmc&utm_term=StoryImageTwo&utm_content=17115&utm_id=e9c3ec75-bab4-4bdf-b31f-3626fa20d1e3&sfmc_id=36122111&sfmc_activityid=100153f9-7a43-49c8-bb22-d4036a4de400&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_04_02_2023</a>><br>
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