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    I think in my 50+ years of TR250 ownership, I've replaced horns
    about 4 or 5 times. They seem to be getting worse, because I've
    replaced them twice in the past 5 years and they currently don't
    work. Yes, the button itself is problematic too. I usually test them
    with a 12v battery first. Does anyone know where to buy horns that
    will last, or should I just remain hornless? - Larry Young<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/21/2020 7:41 AM, DAVID MASSEY
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        <div> <font size="3">That is a good point.  The horns must have
            a good ground, too.  The relay is grounded through the horn
            push to the steering shaft through the link wire around the
            rubber coupling to the rack and through a ground link from
            the rack to the frame.  Any issues with that chain of events
            will cause the problem.  Jumpering the relay will bypass all
            the steering column connections and will be a good diagnosis
            tool.  <br>
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        <div><font size="3">Check the easy stuff first.</font></div>
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        <div><font size="3">For your self-beeping problem, it may be
            something as simple as the plastic sleeve for the bush that
            connects the horn push to the slip ring.  That is no more
            problem to replace than pulling the horn push out,
            extracting the old bush assembly and replacing it.</font><br>
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          From: im sloane <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:im_sloane@hotmail.com"><im_sloane@hotmail.com></a><br>
          To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net">6pack@autox.team.net</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"><6pack@autox.team.net></a><br>
          Sent: Fri, Aug 21, 2020 12:44 am<br>
          Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 horn relay<br>
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                I'm no Dan Masters, but I've always found the most
                likely culprit is not getting a solid ground from the
                horn button, especially if it works sometimes, when
                wiggling the wheel, etc. You can connect the
                purple/black wire as the negative end of a test light to
                check. All the little stuff inside the steering wheel
                must be just right. The steering column itself must have
                a solid ground (to send to the relay via the button).
                Check the ground wire that goes thru/around the steering
                column rubber coupling and the ground wire that connects
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                 Mine 'self blows' when I'm hard cornering, which always
                makes my wife laugh. Yea, I know that problem comes from
                inside the wheel/button. Someday..</div>
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                      color="#000000"><b>From:</b> 6pack
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net"><6pack-bounces@autox.team.net></a> on behalf of
                      DAVID MASSEY <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"><dave1massey@cs.com></a><br
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                      <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 20, 2020 6:51 PM<br
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                      <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dctr6@optonline.net">dctr6@optonline.net</a>
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dctr6@optonline.net"><dctr6@optonline.net></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:6pack@autox.team.net">6pack@autox.team.net</a>
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                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] TR6 horn relay</font>
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                      <div><font size="3">I have found that the horns
                          themselves stop working.  New, Italian-mate
                          horns are available at the local parts stores
                          for around $10 each.  But check them out
                          first.
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                        Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2020 1:15 pm<br clear="none">
                        Subject: [6pack] TR6 horn relay<br clear="none">
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                                  A newbie question from a 31-year 1976
                                TR6 owner – Where’s the horn relay? Horn
                                is working only very occasionally and I
                                figure the easiest first thing to look
                                at is the contacts on the relay.  I’ve
                                included a picture of the fuse box area
                                and a few of the relays – which one is
                                the horn or is it somewhere else?  I
                                have Dan Master’s book so if it’s not
                                the relay, I know where to go next.
                                Thanks.  Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY
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