<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">You’ll find several examples of the Lucas windtone (WT618) high and low note on <a href="http://eBay.co.uk">eBay.co.uk</a> popularly fitted to all Jaguars of the 60s/70s and other prestige British makes. Not cheap but they also were fitted on side screen TRs as well. A penetrating blast of sound which is what’s needed in modern traffic.<div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">At the Battle of Waterloo, 1815:<div>Lord Uxbridge: “By God, Sir - I’ve lost my leg”</div><div>Duke of Wellington: “By God, Sir - so you have!”</div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br>On 21 Aug 2020, at 19:20, Larry Young <<a href="mailto:cartravel@pobox.com">cartravel@pobox.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
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I think in my 50+ years of TR250 ownership, I've replaced horns
about 4 or 5 times. They seem to be getting worse, because I've
replaced them twice in the past 5 years and they currently don't
work. Yes, the button itself is problematic too. I usually test them
with a 12v battery first. Does anyone know where to buy horns that
will last, or should I just remain hornless? - Larry Young<br>
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<div> <font size="3">That is a good point. The horns must have
a good ground, too. The relay is grounded through the horn
push to the steering shaft through the link wire around the
rubber coupling to the rack and through a ground link from
the rack to the frame. Any issues with that chain of events
will cause the problem. Jumpering the relay will bypass all
the steering column connections and will be a good diagnosis
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<div><font size="3">Check the easy stuff first.</font></div>
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<div><font size="3">For your self-beeping problem, it may be
something as simple as the plastic sleeve for the bush that
connects the horn push to the slip ring. That is no more
problem to replace than pulling the horn push out,
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Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 horn relay<br>
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I'm no Dan Masters, but I've always found the most
likely culprit is not getting a solid ground from the
horn button, especially if it works sometimes, when
wiggling the wheel, etc. You can connect the
purple/black wire as the negative end of a test light to
check. All the little stuff inside the steering wheel
must be just right. The steering column itself must have
a solid ground (to send to the relay via the button).
Check the ground wire that goes thru/around the steering
column rubber coupling and the ground wire that connects
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Mine 'self blows' when I'm hard cornering, which always
makes my wife laugh. Yea, I know that problem comes from
inside the wheel/button. Someday..</div>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] TR6 horn relay</font>
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<div><font size="3">I have found that the horns
themselves stop working. New, Italian-mate
horns are available at the local parts stores
for around $10 each. But check them out
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A newbie question from a 31-year 1976
TR6 owner – Where’s the horn relay? Horn
is working only very occasionally and I
figure the easiest first thing to look
at is the contacts on the relay. I’ve
included a picture of the fuse box area
and a few of the relays – which one is
the horn or is it somewhere else? I
have Dan Master’s book so if it’s not
the relay, I know where to go next.
Thanks. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY
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