From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Aug 11 17:37:10 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 23:37:10 +0000
Subject: [6pack] TR6 engine reinstall
Message-ID: <bfb455881dd8434f8111495ddbbc6999@ranteer.com>

We had to pull the engine out and do a rebuild (ouch!!!)

Left the tran in because, well, seemed like a good place to store it!  the car is sitting on an EZLift with a 2x4 across holding up  the tran

Engine is coming back this week, and I'm thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the engine.

The engine is really easy to remove w/o the tran and I'm thinking it should just drop right back in.  we've done the tran R&R so many times we should be able to slide it back into the engine.  I just don't want to go through the hassle of pulling the tran and then trying to install them together, trying to get the tran under the scuttle then back into the car.  Seems like way too much work when I think this will work.

Does this make sense or am I missing something?  The seats, dash support, and tunnel cover are still out.  carbs and exhaust manifold will be installed after engine is in place.
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Aug 11 17:40:26 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 23:40:26 +0000
Subject: [6pack] TR6 engine reinstall
Message-ID: <48373c238c6b4fe0a3d2c81c6ce92519@ranteer.com>

I'm thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the engine.

Does this make sense or am I missing something?

I'm thinking we will install the carbs and exhaust manifold after engine is in place.

I'm bringing you the alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??

I'm thinking I should add the fan after the engine is in.  it's brand new; don't want to damage it.
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From rrochlin at comcast.net  Mon Aug 12 04:49:51 2024
From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Robert Rochlin)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 06:49:51 -0400
Subject: [6pack] [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
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Hi Frank,
	When I rebuilt my TR6 engine I did the same thing right down to the EZ lift.  It is very difficult, in my experience, to get the car high enough to get the angle  needed to remove/replace the engine with the trans attached. It is much easier in a home garage to reattach the transmission to the engine after the engine is installed. I reinstalled the manifolds, carbs and fan after the engine was back in the car.
	Best,
	Bob
	?72 TR6

> On Aug 11, 2024, at 7:40?PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> I?m thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the engine.
>  
> Does this make sense or am I missing something? 
>  
> I?m thinking we will install the carbs and exhaust manifold after engine is in place.
>  
> I?m bringing you the alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??
>  
> I?m thinking I should add the fan after the engine is in.  it?s brand new; don?t want to damage it.
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From brakey6666 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 12 14:11:58 2024
From: brakey6666 at gmail.com (Glenn Franco)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 16:11:58 -0400
Subject: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 105, Issue 1
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You're making to much of the reinstall. Leave the transmission installed
and attached at the rear mount and driveshaft.
As long as you install the flywheel, clutch disc and pressure plate with a
pilot to line up the disc you are in good shape.
You can maneuver the engine around as long as you have a chain fall or
engine lift to slide the engine into the transmission.
I have done many of these and its alot easier than pulling the whole
assembly including the transmission.
It's especially hard if your transmission has a laycock overdrive which
adds weight.

Glenn 71 TR6 sold, 74 TR6 restored, 68 TR250 ongoing frame off restoration.
Spitfires all sold,
73 BMW E10 2002 restored

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> We had to pull the engine out and do a rebuild (ouch!!!)
>
> Left the tran in because, well, seemed like a good place to store it!  the
> car is sitting on an EZLift with a 2x4 across holding up  the tran
>
> Engine is coming back this week, and I'm thinking if I move the tran back
> a few inches (disconnect the driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide
> the tran back into the engine.
>
> The engine is really easy to remove w/o the tran and I'm thinking it
> should just drop right back in.  we've done the tran R&R so many times we
> should be able to slide it back into the engine.  I just don't want to go
> through the hassle of pulling the tran and then trying to install them
> together, trying to get the tran under the scuttle then back into the car.
> Seems like way too much work when I think this will work.
>
> Does this make sense or am I missing something?  The seats, dash support,
> and tunnel cover are still out.  carbs and exhaust manifold will be
> installed after engine is in place.
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> I'm thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the
> driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the
> engine.
>
> Does this make sense or am I missing something?
>
> I'm thinking we will install the carbs and exhaust manifold after engine
> is in place.
>
> I'm bringing you the alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??
>
> I'm thinking I should add the fan after the engine is in.  it's brand new;
> don't want to damage it.
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> To: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
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> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
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> Hi Frank,
>         When I rebuilt my TR6 engine I did the same thing right down to
> the EZ lift.  It is very difficult, in my experience, to get the car high
> enough to get the angle  needed to remove/replace the engine with the trans
> attached. It is much easier in a home garage to reattach the transmission
> to the engine after the engine is installed. I reinstalled the manifolds,
> carbs and fan after the engine was back in the car.
>         Best,
>         Bob
>         ?72 TR6
>
> > On Aug 11, 2024, at 7:40?PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> >
> > I?m thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the
> driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the
> engine.
> >
> > Does this make sense or am I missing something?
> >
> > I?m thinking we will install the carbs and exhaust manifold after engine
> is in place.
> >
> > I?m bringing you the alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??
> >
> > I?m thinking I should add the fan after the engine is in.  it?s brand
> new; don?t want to damage it.
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From tony at tonydrews.com  Mon Aug 12 16:26:33 2024
From: tony at tonydrews.com (Tony Drews)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 17:26:33 -0500
Subject: [6pack] [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
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That can work.? The transmissions will interfere with the pressure plate 
unless the trans is like 4 inches back (maybe less), but if you get the 
engine lined up with the trans it can go in with less clearance.

Install manifolds, and fan after engine is in.? Dizzy can be in place 
but it's safer to have it out and the hole plugged with a rag or something.

My experience is with a TR4 not a 6, but should be applicable.

Regards, Tony

On 8/11/2024 6:40 PM, dave northrup wrote:
>
> I?m thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the 
> driveshaft and tran mount),? then we can slide the tran back into the 
> engine.
>
> Does this make sense or am I missing something?
>
> I?m thinking we will install the carbs and exhaust manifold after 
> engine is in place.
>
> I?m bringing you the alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??
>
> I?m thinking I should add the fan after the engine is in.? it?s brand 
> new; don?t want to damage it.
>
>
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From jpaynepbr at cox.net  Mon Aug 12 18:29:17 2024
From: jpaynepbr at cox.net (JONAS PAYNE)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 00:29:17 +0000
Subject: [6pack] [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
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"While you are there"

I'd replace/upgrade the throttle cross rod bushings if you haven't already.  its a 10 minute job with the motor out, it is a truly miserable job with the motor in.

Triple check that freeze plugs are in place.

Save yourself a future headache and install the top starter bolt from the rear side.

Pop 3 small welds equally spaced around the ring gear/flywheel to prevent the starter from kicking the ring gear off - seems to happen with some regularity on rebuilt motors.

Replace your TO bearing and upgrade the TO bearing lever arm/cross rod bolt.  they are weak and shear off regularly.

Chase all the threads on the manifold studs, same with the nuts if not new.

Take 20 minutes with a dremel and open up the intake manifold openings to more closely match the openings in the cylinder head using the gasket as a template - they are pretty poorly matched from the factory.  This is an easy job because the intake is aluminum.

Jonas
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Sent: Monday, August 12, 2024 3:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 engine reinstall


That can work.  The transmissions will interfere with the pressure plate unless the trans is like 4 inches back (maybe less), but if you get the engine lined up with the trans it can go in with less clearance.

Install manifolds, and fan after engine is in.  Dizzy can be in place but it's safer to have it out and the hole plugged with a rag or something.

My experience is with a TR4 not a 6, but should be applicable.

Regards, Tony

On 8/11/2024 6:40 PM, dave northrup wrote:

I?m thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the engine.



Does this make sense or am I missing something?



I?m thinking we will install the carbs and exhaust manifold after engine is in place.



I?m bringing you the alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??



I?m thinking I should add the fan after the engine is in.  it?s brand new; don?t want to damage it.



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From notakitcar at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 14 12:05:24 2024
From: notakitcar at yahoo.com (bill beecher)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 13:05:24 -0500
Subject: [6pack] [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
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Sounds like a sound plan??but I?m a TR3 guy. 
Bill B

Sent from my TRS-80

On Aug 11, 2024, at 6:55?PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

?
We had to pull the engine out and do a rebuild (ouch!!!)
 
Left the tran in because, well, seemed like a good place to store it!  the car is sitting on an EZLift with a 2x4 across holding up  the tran
 
Engine is coming back this week, and I?m thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the driveshaft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the engine.
 
The engine is really easy to remove w/o the tran and I?m thinking it should just drop right back in.  we?ve done the tran R&R so many times we should be able to slide it back into the engine.  I just don?t want to go through the hassle of pulling the tran and then trying to install them together, trying to get the tran under the scuttle then back into the car.  Seems like way too much work when I think this will work.
 
Does this make sense or am I missing something?  The seats, dash support, and tunnel cover are still out.  carbs and exhaust manifold will be installed after engine is in place.
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