[6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 93, Issue 2
rmf3860 rmf3860
bobfabie at gmail.com
Tue Feb 14 07:03:17 MST 2023
My first sports car was a ‘73 Datsun 240Z that I bought in 1975, a couple
years after graduating college. I lived in San Francisco and wanted a car
that was cool and reliable. What I really wanted was a TR6 or TR250 -
common sites in the City - but reliability drove the decision. I later also
had a 1985 Nissan 300Z 2+2, both this one and the 240 were great cars; fun
to drive and very reliable.
Finally, when our mini-van phase of life collided with my mid-life crisis,
I bought a white 1975 TR6. I’ve owned this car for almost 23 years and have
rebuilt/restored every part of it. I love this car. I also have a ‘68
Camaro and a 2003 Corvette, but I seem to drive the TR the most. There’s
just something about driving a (comparatively) slow car fast. Here’s a
picture.
Bob Fabie
Fredericksburg, VA
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 2:22 AM Mitchel Seff <ms6453 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Bought my first TR6, a 69 in 1971 sold it a a couple of years later. Then
> my second was a 71, I kept that a couple of years and bought my first new
> car, a 1973 240Z. I had that car 15 years. Modified it and Tracked it at
> BridgeHampton as well as autoX. Truly loved that car.solid, quiet and
> comfortable. But somehow when it was time to buy another sports car, the
> triumph was the car choice. I’ve had this one for 25 years and still
> smitten. A couple of pictures attached.
> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg][image: image2.jpeg]
>
> Mitch Seff
>
> On Feb 6, 2023, at 9:24 AM, Jim Hurley <jimhurle at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> A big draw back for the Datsun was the lack of a soft top.
>
> Jim Hurley
>
>
>
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>> 1. Re: [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z (Alex & Janet Thomson)
>> 2. Re: [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z (Robert Rochlin)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 20:53:43 -0500
>> From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <aljlthomson at charter.net>
>> To: "'Bob'" <yellowtr at adelphia.net>, <triumphs at autox.team.net>, "'six
>> pack'" <6pack at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z
>> Message-ID: <000601d939cd$d8bbb740$8a3325c0$@charter.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> And, if you can't find a good used frame, there is always the option of a
>> new, Ratco frame. All it takes is a MasterCard! That is definitely an
>> advantage of an "old technology" frame/body car.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alex Thomson
>>
>>
>>
>> From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
>> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2023 9:45 AM
>> To: triumphs at autox.team.net; six pack
>> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z
>>
>>
>>
>> Both the TR6 and the 240Z suffered from rust in the NE with roads covered
>> with sand and salt. My 72 6 was a perfect example. I spent a ton of time
>> cutting and welding/brazing both the body and the frame. But in the end it
>> was more solid than its original. And thanks to Ted with his frame
>> strengthening kit. The Z however was uni-body. A good friend had one and
>> it
>> basically fell apart in the early 80's. He took it to a frame shop and
>> they
>> couldnt do a thing with it. And there is no way to restore it. At least on
>> the 6, if the frame was shot, you could to to a junk yard and pick up one
>> in
>> decent shape, same with the fenders/ doors etc.
>>
>> I do see one Z at car shows but I am sure it is not a NE car. I do see
>> quite
>> a few 6's though. One thing that the Z had better on the engine were the
>> carbs. A SU clone made by Hitachi. I fitted a pair on my 72 as I was not
>> a
>> fan of the ZS. They have been trouble free for over 15 years.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On 2/4/23 1:12 PM, dave northrup wrote:
>>
>> Or, as they would say in England, TR6 vs 240 Zed
>>
>>
>>
>> Fun article
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.classicandsportscar.com/features/datsun-240z-vs-triumph-tr6-batt
>> le-america?utm_source=sfmc
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>> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2023 07:23:37 -0400
>> From: Robert Rochlin <rrochlin at comcast.net>
>> To: Triumphs <triumphs at autox.team.net>, "6pack at autox.team.net"
>> <6pack at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z
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>> Back in the early 70?s I had two successive 240 Z cars. The first one
>> was a 1972 before emissions equipment, it went like hell and was dependable
>> and durable. I drove that one until the body was so compromised from New
>> England winters that I had to give it up. I made the mistake of then buying
>> a 1974 TR6 with emission controls. It was a dog comprehend to the 1972. As
>> it happens, I have a brochure reprint of a head to head comparison of the
>> TR6 and the 240 Z originally done by Road and Track. The advantage went to
>> the 240 Z when speed picked up and aerodynamics came into play. I?m away
>> now, but when I get home I?ll make a PDF of the brochure and post it to the
>> list.
>> Best,
>> Bob
>>
>> > On Feb 5, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <
>> aljlthomson at charter.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > And, if you can?t find a good used frame, there is always the option of
>> a new, Ratco frame. All it takes is a MasterCard! That is definitely an
>> advantage of an ?old technology? frame/body car.
>> >
>> > Alex Thomson
>> >
>> > From: 6pack [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:
>> 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net>] On Behalf Of Bob
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2023 9:45 AM
>> > To: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>; six pack
>> > Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 vs 240 Z
>> >
>> > Both the TR6 and the 240Z suffered from rust in the NE with roads
>> covered with sand and salt. My 72 6 was a perfect example. I spent a ton of
>> time cutting and welding/brazing both the body and the frame. But in the
>> end it was more solid than its original. And thanks to Ted with his frame
>> strengthening kit. The Z however was uni-body. A good friend had one and
>> it basically fell apart in the early 80's. He took it to a frame shop and
>> they couldnt do a thing with it. And there is no way to restore it. At
>> least on the 6, if the frame was shot, you could to to a junk yard and pick
>> up one in decent shape, same with the fenders/ doors etc.
>> >
>> > I do see one Z at car shows but I am sure it is not a NE car. I do see
>> quite a few 6's though. One thing that the Z had better on the engine were
>> the carbs. A SU clone made by Hitachi. I fitted a pair on my 72 as I was
>> not a fan of the ZS. They have been trouble free for over 15 years.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> > On 2/4/23 1:12 PM, dave northrup wrote:
>> >> Or, as they would say in England, TR6 vs 240 Zed
>> >>
>> >> Fun article
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.classicandsportscar.com/features/datsun-240z-vs-triumph-tr6-battle-america?utm_source=sfmc&utm_term=StoryImageTwo&utm_content=17115&utm_id=e9c3ec75-bab4-4bdf-b31f-3626fa20d1e3&sfmc_id=36122111&sfmc_activityid=100153f9-7a43-49c8-bb22-d4036a4de400&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_04_02_2023
>> <
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