[6pack] Thank You Re: Clutch Set Recommendations

Sun Jun 20 14:19:10 MDT 2021

Thank you, Tom. Very helpful information. Bet you’ll never forget changing
that clutch in the parking lot!

By now, I’ve read “every” technical article and every posting about TR6
clutches I could find on the web. It seems every combination of components
has its down side-mostly involving the T/O bearing.

With all due respect to the suggestions and comments to of the group, I’m
still undecided, but I am leaning toward the TRF package. I also plan to
speak with Moss’ technical advisors to see what they recommend.

I wish you had some pictures of that parking lot clutch job. I’d love to
see them.

Thanks again.

Bob Fabie

On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 1:30 PM Tom Walling <pdqtr6 at comcast.net> wrote:

> My only knowledge of how TRF's Magic Clutch works on the car is from
> postings here on the lists. I do know that TRF has always been a strong
> advocate for quality above price, and I feel that is really important when
> it comes to parts that are a real pig to get at and change-out.
>
> My current clutch was "cobbled together" from parts from TRF, World Parts
> (remember them? are they still around?) and a junk yard in Asheville NC. I
> was there for the 1994 VTR National and arrived on the "hook" of a tow
> truck. I changed the clutch in the host hotel's parking lot in the heat
> between the daily thunder storms. That's something I hope never to repeat!
> I have not had any further touble with it, but you never know. My next one
> will be a Magic Clutch from TRF.
>
> On 06/18/2021 7:28 PM Robert Rochlin <rrochlin at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>  My opinion is using a bronze bearing carrier is extremely important to
> getting a smooth clutch action.
>   How heavy the clutch action on TR6 is has been a repeated discussion on
> the list.  Randell Young had a number of articles on TR6 clutch research by
> TR6 enthusiasts. I’ve had many standard shift cars and I can’t recall any
> having a heavier clutch action then the TR6 even many V8’s.  There is an
> internal  hydraulic  clutch available for the TR6, but I don’t think the
> TRF magic clutch kit utilizes it.
> Best
>  Bob
> 72’ TR6
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 18, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Greg Lemon <grglmn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clutch Kit has the slave
> cylinder inside the bell housing.   I don't have one, have heard many say
> it is a good kit, and I am sure it is, but that particular feature gives me
> a little concern.
>
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 < bobfabie at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks to all who responded to my post, and a few follow up
> questions/comments:
>
> BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, “…and its been
> trouble.” Did you mean it’s been no trouble?
>
> TOM WALLING: I may be leaning toward the “Magic Clutch Kit”. Do they
> specify the brands of each component, or do you know from having installed
> the kit?
>
> DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF’s kit, just their TO bearing, or some
> other combination?  Is this the bearing that requires a counter spring on
> the slave?
>
> MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everything a
> second time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit or
> something else?
>
> TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I’m aware of the importance of proper alignment and
> will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly in place.
>
> Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have.
>
> Bob Fabie
> Fredericksburg, VA
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook < tjh173 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the
> correct bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hold
> the transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right
> holes.  Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a
> specific diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in
> the specific proper holes.  These ensure proper alignment of the trans and
> engine, and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout bearing
> and pressure plate.  Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you've
> got the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put the
> right bolts in the right holes.
>
> Regards,
> Tim Holbrook
> 1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 1999 when I was daily
> driving it)
>
>
> On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf3860 <
> bobfabie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Fellow Enthusiasts,
>
> I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences change over
> time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best to get
> the group’s current collective wisdom.
>
> My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure
> plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the
> pressure plate fingers. There’s no more than 5,000 miles on the clutch
> system.
>
> While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I believe
> was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate’s straight fingers.
> The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth.
>
> What are your experiences and recommendations?
>
> Thanks.
> Bob Fabie
> Fredericksburg, VA
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