From dctr6 at optonline.net  Thu Oct  1 15:31:46 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 17:31:46 -0400
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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Dave ? 

    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?

We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). 

Dennis 

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out before you spend any more money.

 

Dave 

 

 

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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Thu Oct  1 15:40:28 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 17:40:28 -0400
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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Richard ? 

    Dropped the alternator off today for rebuild ? we?ll see what we get. Do you have a part number for the Delco replacement?  I may need to go that way.  Thanks.

Dennis  

 

From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 6:58 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net
Cc: Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Jim --- Let us know if rebuilding your original alternator raises the reading to more than 13.xxv. I recall my original Lucas never showed as high as its replacement Delco number of 14.6v 

Dick 


On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:13 PM, <dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> > <dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> > wrote:

Actually, no they don?t have the facilities.  However, I have taken the 2nd alternator to a local auto electric shop where they tested it and it?s only putting out a little over 13 volts which I do not believe is enough.  I plan to retrieve my original alternator and have it re-built (which I should have done in the first place).

Dennis

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM
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Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Can?t the parts place test the alternator off the car with their machine?  Jim Henningsen

 

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Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  1 15:58:17 2020
From: taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com (Richard)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 14:58:17 -0700
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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I asked the counter guy for an alternator for  1980 Cheve V6. 
Clocked it so the mounting points matched the block piece. I recall making a bushing here so the thru bolt fit better. I use the original wire connection junction that's used for the Lucas and crimped on electrical spades from the alternator wires Into the junction. This could be done neater but wanted to keep the Lucas junction box. Not sure why, after about 20 years with the Delco! 
Dick 
> On Oct 1, 2020, at 2:40 PM, <dctr6 at optonline.net> <dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> Richard ?
>     Dropped the alternator off today for rebuild ? we?ll see what we get. Do you have a part number for the Delco replacement?  I may need to go that way.  Thanks.
> Dennis 
>  
> From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 6:58 PM
> To: dctr6 at optonline.net
> Cc: Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
>  
> Jim --- Let us know if rebuilding your original alternator raises the reading to more than 13.xxv. I recall my original Lucas never showed as high as its replacement Delco number of 14.6v 
> Dick 
> 
> On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:13 PM, <dctr6 at optonline.net> <dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote:
> 
> Actually, no they don?t have the facilities.  However, I have taken the 2nd alternator to a local auto electric shop where they tested it and it?s only putting out a little over 13 volts which I do not believe is enough.  I plan to retrieve my original alternator and have it re-built (which I should have done in the first place).
> Dennis
>  
> From: Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM
> To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
> Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
>  
> Can?t the parts place test the alternator off the car with their machine?  Jim Henningsen
>  
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dctr6 at optonline.net
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:04 PM
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net
> Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
>  
>    Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??
> Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6
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From colinthom at shaw.ca  Thu Oct  1 16:51:41 2020
From: colinthom at shaw.ca (COLIN THOM)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 16:51:41 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [6pack] ALTERNATOR NOT CHARGING BATTERY 1976 TR6
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The power tap 3/8 QC connector on the battery positive cable is susceptible to corrosion and can feel tight but not be clean enough for a sufficient connection. If you know for a fact that your alternator is fine and you know for a fact that all your ground connections are tight, take this power tap QX apart and make sure its cleanliness approaches godliness. 

Colin 


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Dave ? 

We checked that connection and it was clean and tight. We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery. We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery? 

We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). 

Dennis 



From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM 
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net 
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 



On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector. If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery. Check that out before you spend any more money. 



Dave 





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Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 

Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens. Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts. Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators. What?s wrong?? 

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Richard ? 

Dropped the alternator off today for rebuild ? we?ll see what we get. Do you have a part number for the Delco replacement? I may need to go that way. Thanks. 

Dennis 



From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 6:58 PM 
To: dctr6 at optonline.net 
Cc: Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 



Jim --- Let us know if rebuilding your original alternator raises the reading to more than 13.xxv. I recall my original Lucas never showed as high as its replacement Delco number of 14.6v 

Dick 


On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:13 PM, <dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> > <dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> > wrote: 

Actually, no they don?t have the facilities. However, I have taken the 2nd alternator to a local auto electric shop where they tested it and it?s only putting out a little over 13 volts which I do not believe is enough. I plan to retrieve my original alternator and have it re-built (which I should have done in the first place). 

Dennis 



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Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM 
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Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 



Can?t the parts place test the alternator off the car with their machine? Jim Henningsen 



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Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 



Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens. Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts. Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators. What?s wrong?? 

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com> 
To: dctr6 at optonline.net 
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Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 
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I asked the counter guy for an alternator for 1980 Cheve V6. 
Clocked it so the mounting points matched the block piece. I recall making a bushing here so the thru bolt fit better. I use the original wire connection junction that's used for the Lucas and crimped on electrical spades from the alternator wires Into the junction. This could be done neater but wanted to keep the Lucas junction box. Not sure why, after about 20 years with the Delco! 
Dick 
> On Oct 1, 2020, at 2:40 PM, <dctr6 at optonline.net> <dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote: 
> 
> Richard ? 
> Dropped the alternator off today for rebuild ? we?ll see what we get. Do you have a part number for the Delco replacement? I may need to go that way. Thanks. 
> Dennis 
> 
> From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 6:58 PM 
> To: dctr6 at optonline.net 
> Cc: Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com>; triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net 
> Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 
> 
> Jim --- Let us know if rebuilding your original alternator raises the reading to more than 13.xxv. I recall my original Lucas never showed as high as its replacement Delco number of 14.6v 
> Dick 
> 
> On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:13 PM, <dctr6 at optonline.net> <dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote: 
> 
> Actually, no they don?t have the facilities. However, I have taken the 2nd alternator to a local auto electric shop where they tested it and it?s only putting out a little over 13 volts which I do not believe is enough. I plan to retrieve my original alternator and have it re-built (which I should have done in the first place). 
> Dennis 
> 
> From: Jim Henningsen <trguy75 at gmail.com> 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM 
> To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net 
> Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net 
> Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 
> 
> Can?t the parts place test the alternator off the car with their machine? Jim Henningsen 
> 
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dctr6 at optonline.net 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:04 PM 
> To: triumphs at autox.team.net 
> Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net 
> Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 
> 
> Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens. Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts. Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators. What?s wrong?? 
> Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct  1 17:20:24 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 23:20:24 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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 Hmmm.... confusing.? I think you already answered this but I forgot the response.? Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine?
Is the belt tight?
I'm grasping at straws.
 
Dave 

 
 
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#yiv9867486452 #yiv9867486452 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv9867486452 #yiv9867486452 p.yiv9867486452MsoNormal, #yiv9867486452 li.yiv9867486452MsoNormal, #yiv9867486452 div.yiv9867486452MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv9867486452 a:link, #yiv9867486452 span.yiv9867486452MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9867486452 span.yiv9867486452EmailStyle26 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv9867486452 .yiv9867486452MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv9867486452 div.yiv9867486452WordSection1 {}#yiv9867486452 Dave ? ????We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.? We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.? We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). Dennis  ?From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
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Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 ?On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.? If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.? Check that out before you spend any more money. ?Dave  ? ?-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?? Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.? Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts. ?Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.? What?s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 ** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Thu Oct  1 17:47:34 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 23:47:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). 
 This suggests that if you measure the resistance between the alternator output terminal and the battery positive it would read a very low resistance.? About the same as when you touch the meter leads together.? This will verify that the connection to the battery is good.? The fact that the voltage at the alternator is 12 volts means the alternator isn't producing.
What other possible fault could there be?? A bad ground?? But if the alternator wasn't grounded the light wouldn't behave properly.
It's tough troubleshooting something via this medium.
 
Dave 

 
 
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Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

#yiv9867486452 #yiv9867486452 -- _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv9867486452 #yiv9867486452 p.yiv9867486452MsoNormal, #yiv9867486452 li.yiv9867486452MsoNormal, #yiv9867486452 div.yiv9867486452MsoNormal {margin:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;}#yiv9867486452 a:link, #yiv9867486452 span.yiv9867486452MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9867486452 span.yiv9867486452EmailStyle26 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;}#yiv9867486452 .yiv9867486452MsoChpDefault {font-family:sans-serif;} _filtered {}#yiv9867486452 div.yiv9867486452WordSection1 {}#yiv9867486452 Dave ? ????We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.? We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.? We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). Dennis  ?From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
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Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 ?On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.? If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.? Check that out before you spend any more money. ?Dave  ? ?-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?? Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.? Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts. ?Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.? What?s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 ** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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From im_sloane at hotmail.com  Thu Oct  1 20:34:22 2020
From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 02:34:22 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Fw:  [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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 <1489962119.475999.1601501467775@mail.yahoo.com>
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This doesn't answer your problem, but nobody has mentioned Bosch 13107 as an excellent replacement. Ford Focus I think. It's a straight bolt on upgrade. I have two.

My brother (73-Six) blew 2 alternators before he realized he didn't even have an engine-block to body-tub ground wire. Is there any chance you're blowing them immediately? Maybe have rebuilt unit tested before you install, as dumb as that sounds.

Sloane
69-Six
72-Spit

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Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6







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Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

Dave ?
    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?
We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?).
Dennis

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
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To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
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Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out before you spend any more money.

Dave


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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??
Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6
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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Thu Oct  1 21:02:35 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 23:02:35 -0400
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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Dave ? 

    Yes, light comes on and goes off and the belt has about ? inch of play. Recent notes have made me suspect the battery which we?ve not really considered.  We, too, are grasping at straws?

Thanks. 

Dennis

 

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Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Hmmm.... confusing.  I think you already answered this but I forgot the response.  Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine?

 

Is the belt tight?

 

I'm grasping at straws.

 

Dave 

 

 

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Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

Dave ? 

    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?

We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). 

Dennis 

 

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Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out before you spend any more money.

 

Dave 

 

 

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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Fri Oct  2 05:35:01 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 11:35:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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 Battery.? Hadn't thought of that.? Do you have a battery charger?? You could hook that up and see what the voltage does.
 
Dave 

 
 
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Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

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Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 ?Hmmm.... confusing.? I think you already answered this but I forgot the response.? Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine? ?Is the belt tight? ?I'm grasping at straws. ?Dave  ? ?-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6Dave ? ????We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.? We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.? We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). Dennis ?From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.? If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.? Check that out before you spend any more money.?Dave ??-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?? Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.? Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts. ?Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.? What?s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 ** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Fri Oct  2 08:59:43 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 14:59:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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 <009001d6983a$449997d0$cdccc770$@optonline.net>
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 What is the battery voltage with the engine off?
 
Dave 

 
 
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Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

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Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:20 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 ?Hmmm.... confusing.? I think you already answered this but I forgot the response.? Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine? ?Is the belt tight? ?I'm grasping at straws. ?Dave  ? ?-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6Dave ? ????We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.? We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.? We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). Dennis ?From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.? If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.? Check that out before you spend any more money.?Dave ??-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6?? Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.? Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts. ?Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.? What?s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 ** triumphs at autox.team.net **

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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 12:50:30 -0400
Subject: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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Dave ? 

    Battery voltage with engine off is 12 volts. 

    Suspecting a possible battery problem, today we did a load test on the battery and it was OK.  We then hooked up a different battery with the same exact results ? no voltage increase noted at the battery with the engine running.  We are still completely confused by the fact that the alternator tested ?OK? (although only 13.4 volts instead of the expected 14+) but there is no voltage increase at the battery .  Brown/yellow wire tests OK.

      We are taking a break until Monday when I will pick up my original Lucas alternator from the local rebuilder.  The plan is I will have him verify the o/p voltage and we will put it on the car and test it w/o hooking the brown/yellow wire to the battery.  If it?s registering the same voltage as tested by the rebuilder (hopefully 14+), we will attach the brown/yellow wire and test at the battery. Neither of the rebuilt alternators that we have been dealing with have shown more than 12 volts either at the alternator or at the battery.

Completely flummoxed, 

Dennis  

 

 

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Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

What is the battery voltage with the engine off?

 

Dave 

 

 

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Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

Dave ? 

    Yes, light comes on and goes off and the belt has about ? inch of play. Recent notes have made me suspect the battery which we?ve not really considered.  We, too, are grasping at straws?

Thanks. 

Dennis

 

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Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

Hmmm.... confusing.  I think you already answered this but I forgot the response.  Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine?

 

Is the belt tight?

 

I'm grasping at straws.

 

Dave 

 

 

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Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

Dave ? 

    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked through the procedure in Dan Master?s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it?s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn?t this show up at the battery?

We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). 

Dennis 

 

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Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out before you spend any more money.

 

Dave 

 

 

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Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Mon Oct 12 11:42:55 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 13:42:55 -0400
Subject: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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    A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 - Any idea what these
are going for these days? 

I've not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones
(Parrish? $450  - $700) but 

he's not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top
will dictate the price but 

he's looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.

Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U   

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Oct 12 12:01:56 2020
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 18:01:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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 No idea what they are commanding today but I remember 20-odd years ago you'd be lucky to pick up a good one for a grand.? But a lot depends on the condition.? How's the paint?? How's the headliner?? (That's a big one).? The window seals may be tough to find.? Does it have all the mounting hardware?
 
Dave 

 
 
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Subject: [TR] TR6 OEM hardtop value

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From wcwellbaum at cox.net  Mon Oct 12 12:53:09 2020
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 14:53:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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Any top in fair condition should bring easily $1,000. Any original top with transform a TR-6 in many ways.


> On October 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM dctr6 at optonline.net wrote:
> 
> 
>         A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 ? Any idea what these are going for these days?
> 
>     I?ve not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones (Parrish? $450  - $700) but
> 
>     he?s not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top will dictate the price but
> 
>     he?s looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.
> 
>     Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U   
> 


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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Tue Oct 13 09:35:43 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 11:35:43 -0400
Subject: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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Bud ? 

    The rear deck panel was the first area I had to have touched up after I bought the car back in 1989.  My top actually seemed to seal pretty well especially around the windows.  It definitely stiffened the car up ? less scuttle shake, less twisting over bumps.  But it?s a convertible? that?s why the hardtop hasn?t been on the car in over 31 years.

Dennis   

 

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Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value

 

One of the ways your TR6 will be transformed is the potential for scratches on the rear deck panel from the hard top riding on that rear panel. I quickly got rid of my hardtop because of that problem. You can try to protect the paint will a barrier of sorts but then the hardtop won't seal properly. The hardtop does make the TR6 look like a cool GT car but it is a semi permanent with pluses and minuses and the rear deck may suffer.

 

Bud



Sent from my Commodore 64


On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:53 PM, BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net <mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net> > wrote:

Any top in fair condition should bring easily $1,000. Any original top with transform a TR-6 in many ways. 




On October 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>  wrote: 

    A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 ? Any idea what these are going for these days? 

I?ve not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones (Parrish? $450  - $700) but 

he?s not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top will dictate the price but 

he?s looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.

Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U   


  

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From janah at att.net  Tue Oct 13 15:24:44 2020
From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 21:24:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Re TR6 OEM Hardtop
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I bought one complete but in need of restoration (seals, headliner, small dents - hail?) for $600.? I think that to day you might be looking at $800. I spent $600 for repaint. I don't recall what I paid for seals and the new headliner.? I think you might be looking at ~$1600 for one in excellent shape.
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From tom.lofgren at stanfordalumni.org  Tue Oct 13 15:30:03 2020
From: tom.lofgren at stanfordalumni.org (Tom Lofgren)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 14:30:03 -0700
Subject: [6pack] Re TR6 OEM Hardtop
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I have a hardtop in the Northern California Bay Area that is available in
case anyone is looking.  It needs a headliner and seals, but the
sheetmetal and glass are in great shape.  I would be willing to part with
it for $800.  Let me know if you're interested.

Tom


On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 2:25 PM John Cyganowski <janah at att.net> wrote:

> I bought one complete but in need of restoration (seals, headliner, small
> dents - hail?) for $600.  I think that to day you might be looking at $800.
> I spent $600 for repaint. I don't recall what I paid for seals and the new
> headliner.  I think you might be looking at ~$1600 for one in excellent
> shape.
>
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From auprichard at uprichard.net  Tue Oct 13 16:05:43 2020
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard at uprichard.net)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 18:05:43 -0400
Subject: [6pack] A little story about Coker tires
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Just for what it?s worth?..

 

When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the car.

 

Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!

 

I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced.  

 

I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.

 

So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, if ever.

 

So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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From wcwellbaum at cox.net  Tue Oct 13 17:06:32 2020
From: wcwellbaum at cox.net (BILL WELLBAUM)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 19:06:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [6pack] A little story about Coker tires
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You solution is simple. Source some 205/70-15 tires from your favorite supplier (mine has always been Discount Tire)
and then take them to a shop specializing in detailing. Find one that knows how to cut and dye your tires resulting in a red striped wall. I've seen it done many times and the results usually are outstanding.

Bill Wellbaum
Las Vegas


> On October 13, 2020 at 6:05 PM auprichard at uprichard.net wrote:
> 
> 
>     Just for what it?s worth?..
> 
>      
> 
>     When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the car.
> 
>      
> 
>     Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!
> 
>      
> 
>     I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced. 
> 
>      
> 
>     I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.
> 
>      
> 
>     So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, if ever.
> 
>      
> 
>     So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.
> 
>      
> 
>     Andrew Uprichard
> 
>     Jackson, Michigan
> 


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From dlhogye at comcast.net  Tue Oct 13 17:15:22 2020
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (DAVE HOGYE)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 16:15:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [6pack] [TR] A little story about Coker tires
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I guess these are bias-ply tires.  Bias-ply tires are difficult to deal with.  Some say, don't even bother with balancing until they are broken in with say, a few hundred miles on them. They tend to be out-of-round when new.  I had huge problems with two new sets of Hoosier Vintage TD race tires for my TR3.  Around $1200 a set, mounted and balanced.  I drive my car on the street too, so I was able to discover this before getting to the track.  Repeated tries at balancing went nowhere.  I had them "road force balanced" multiple times in attempt to improve the matter.  This machine reads the run-out.   I think 20 was about the number that you would not feel while driving.  None of the tires were under 30 and some were 80.  You didn't need a machine to see how out-of round they were, even at 30.  Terrible.  They really upset a weekend of racing at the Laguna Seca, Rolex Reunion.  The car shook terribly between 60-90 mph.  Above 90 was better.   After the event I called Hoosier and they sent me another set, no charge.  I had to eat the extra attempts at balancing.  The second set was also very bad and a year later, my second Rolex race weekend was equally disappointing.  Hoosier sent a third set, no charge.   This set was excellent.  This event is the only one that I have to run bias-ply race tires.  I've heard from other racers that the much more expensive Dunlops are even worst.  Hoosier did not request the bad sets be sent back.  I have since remounted a couple of lower "road force" numbered tires and they are good now.  So with some wear, they did get better.  
Roger Kraus Racing, tire company, recommended truing these tires by shaving the tread when newly mounted if they are noticeably out-of round and take a lot of weight to balance.  
Happy motoring,
Dave H.

>     On 10/13/2020 3:05 PM auprichard at uprichard.net wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Just for what it?s worth?..
> 
>      
> 
>     When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the car.
> 
>      
> 
>     Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!
> 
>      
> 
>     I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced. 
> 
>      
> 
>     I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.
> 
>      
> 
>     So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, if ever.
> 
>      
> 
>     So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.
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From motrv8d at hotmail.com  Tue Oct 13 10:36:15 2020
From: motrv8d at hotmail.com (Gene Holtzclaw)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 16:36:15 +0000
Subject: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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I agree with all of this. I love the look of the hardtop, yet don't use it. I had my rear deck repainted. I put the hartop on shortly after. The VERY FIRST TIME I removed the top, a good friend helped. I emphasized picking it up higher at the rear so the deck wouldn't get scratched. Oh well. Scratched it is. Again.

________________________________
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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value


Bud ?

    The rear deck panel was the first area I had to have touched up after I bought the car back in 1989.  My top actually seemed to seal pretty well especially around the windows.  It definitely stiffened the car up ? less scuttle shake, less twisting over bumps.  But it?s a convertible? that?s why the hardtop hasn?t been on the car in over 31 years.

Dennis



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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:08 AM
To: BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net>
Cc: dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value



One of the ways your TR6 will be transformed is the potential for scratches on the rear deck panel from the hard top riding on that rear panel. I quickly got rid of my hardtop because of that problem. You can try to protect the paint will a barrier of sorts but then the hardtop won't seal properly. The hardtop does make the TR6 look like a cool GT car but it is a semi permanent with pluses and minuses and the rear deck may suffer.



Bud


Sent from my Commodore 64

On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:53 PM, BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net<mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net>> wrote:

Any top in fair condition should bring easily $1,000. Any original top with transform a TR-6 in many ways.



On October 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM dctr6 at optonline.net<mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote:

    A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 ? Any idea what these are going for these days?

I?ve not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones (Parrish? $450  - $700) but

he?s not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top will dictate the price but

he?s looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.

Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U



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From cartravel at pobox.com  Wed Oct 14 13:54:28 2020
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 14:54:28 -0500
Subject: [6pack] A little story about Coker tires
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References: <015e01d6a1ac$ffdcde00$ff969a00$@uprichard.net>
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Here is a list of tire optiions I put together a coupe of years ago. I 
put DiamondBack redlines on my TR250.

On 10/13/2020 5:05 PM, auprichard at uprichard.net wrote:
>
> Just for what it?s worth?..
>
> When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 
> year-old tires.? They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I 
> decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take 
> loved ones out for a drive in the car.
>
> Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline 
> tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.? Not cheap!!
>
> I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.? 
> I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the 
> wobble persisted.? Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older 
> than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 
> years.? He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be 
> balanced.
>
> I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.? Coker 
> refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain 
> specifications.? The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker 
> was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the 
> tires all fell outside the specifications.
>
> So the good news is, Coker will take them back.? The bad news is, 
> Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, 
> if ever.
>
> So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the 
> redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, Michigan
>
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From cartravel at pobox.com  Wed Oct 14 13:57:35 2020
From: cartravel at pobox.com (Larry Young)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 14:57:35 -0500
Subject: [6pack] A little story about Coker tires
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oops, forgot the attachment

On 10/13/2020 5:05 PM, auprichard at uprichard.net wrote:
>
> Just for what it?s worth?..
>
> When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 
> year-old tires.? They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I 
> decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take 
> loved ones out for a drive in the car.
>
> Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline 
> tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.? Not cheap!!
>
> I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.? 
> I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the 
> wobble persisted.? Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older 
> than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 
> years.? He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be 
> balanced.
>
> I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.? Coker 
> refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain 
> specifications.? The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker 
> was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the 
> tires all fell outside the specifications.
>
> So the good news is, Coker will take them back.? The bad news is, 
> Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, 
> if ever.
>
> So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the 
> redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, Michigan
>
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From auprichard at uprichard.net  Wed Oct 14 14:42:30 2020
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (auprichard at uprichard.net)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 16:42:30 -0400
Subject: [6pack] A little story about Coker tires
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Thanks, Larry ? very helpful.

 

What about 195 x 65 x15 on 6? wheels ?  That?s what I have on one of my TR3s and they look great.  Am thinking of the same for the TR5.

 

Just FYI, on my TR250 I have 215 x 55 x16 on Panasport 7? rims.  I guess the possibilities are endless.

 

Andrew

 

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Larry Young
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 3:58 PM
To: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] A little story about Coker tires

 

oops, forgot the attachment

On 10/13/2020 5:05 PM, auprichard at uprichard.net <mailto:auprichard at uprichard.net>  wrote:

Just for what it?s worth?..

 

When I bought my TR5 from Charles Runyan?s estate, it came with 15 year-old tires.  They had little to no wear, and drove fine, but I decided I should do the right thing and replace them if I was to take loved ones out for a drive in the car.

 

Since there was only one manufacturer to choose from for redline tires, I bought 4 tires from Coker, through Discount Tire.  Not cheap!!

 

I put them on the car and there was a terrible wobble around 50 mph.  I took them back twice to Discount to get them balanced, but the wobble persisted.  Finally, I took them to an old guy (well, older than me) in Detroit who boasted he had balanced wire wheels for 40 years.  He told me the tires were so out of true they could not be balanced.  

 

I took them back to Discount Tire and they called Coker.  Coker refused to take them back unless they fell outside certain specifications.  The Discount Tire shop didn?t really know what Coker was talking about, but went through the process and sure enough, the tires all fell outside the specifications.

 

So the good news is, Coker will take them back.  The bad news is, Coker has no redline tires and doesn?t know when they will have more, if ever.

 

So my plan is to put new tires, not redline, on the car and keep the redlines I have if ever a buyer wants originality or the car is shown.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan





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From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca  Thu Oct 15 11:25:45 2020
From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Yahoo)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 17:25:45 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Coker tires
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I have rota 16 inch minilite style wheels and kumho 2656516 v speed touring tires on my 6.? ? Beautiful upgrade in terms of ride, performance and looks. They balanced nicelyat the tire shop.? ?Lots of compliments.? ? Along with the roadster factory semi comp springs it gives the car more of an agressive look.? I have the old michelin? redlines and original wheels up in the rafters for the next owner.? ? Cheers? ?Bruce Simms

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From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca  Thu Oct 15 13:24:56 2020
From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Yahoo)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 19:24:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Re    Coker tires
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Oops meant to say i have 2056516 kumho tires on the 6.? ? ? ?2657016 on my 06 Tundra.Cheers? Bruce Simms

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From mohawktriumphs at aol.com  Fri Oct 16 15:44:00 2020
From: mohawktriumphs at aol.com (mohawktriumphs)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 17:44:00 -0400
Subject: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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What ever fixed the no charge ?



Sent from my ASUS Pad

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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Fri Oct 16 21:34:48 2020
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 23:34:48 -0400
Subject: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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   I had my original alternator rebuilt by a local shop (Orange Auto Electric in Newburgh, NY).  That alternator tested at 14+ volts (as opposed to the 13+ I was getting out of the 2 previously purchased rebuilds) and we are now getting 13+ at the battery even under load. Yes, it?s ?supposed? to be 14.2 but it?s better than 12 and it appears to be sufficient to charge the battery. At this point I?m keeping my eye on the voltmeter (Funny aside here: Through all this, we never thought to look at the voltmeter) and will occasionally check the battery but I?m hoping that this episode is over.  I now know more about alternators than I ever thought I?d have to.  I?m assuming that the other 2 alternators may not have been rebuilt correctly.

    Thanks to Dick, Robert, Richard, Dave, John, David, Bob, Rob, Gene, Steve, Brian, Ron, Victor, Robert, Michael, Jim and anybody/everybody else that chipped in with suggestions.  I appreciate it.

Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U  

 

From: mohawktriumphs <mohawktriumphs at aol.com> 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 5:44 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

 

What ever fixed the no charge ?



Sent from my ASUS Pad

dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>  wrote:

   Here?s a synopsis ? Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master?s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit ? same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters ? all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What?s wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 

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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 11:44:53 2020
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 12:44:53 -0500
Subject: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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I'd love to buy a correct hardtop for my '75 TR6...if I can find one that I
can afford. I will repaint it so color and finish is unimportant. I even
have a new, unopened convertible top that I can offer in trade.

rick

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:14 AM Gene Holtzclaw <motrv8d at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with all of this. I love the look of the hardtop, yet don't use
> it. I had my rear deck repainted. I put the hartop on shortly after. The
> VERY FIRST TIME I removed the top, a good friend helped. I emphasized
> picking it up higher at the rear so the deck wouldn't get scratched. Oh
> well. Scratched it is. Again.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of
> dctr6 at optonline.net <dctr6 at optonline.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:35 AM
> *To:* 'Bud Rolofson' <levilevi at comcast.net>
> *Cc:* triumphs at autox.team.net <triumphs at autox.team.net>;
> 6pack at autox.team.net <6pack at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
>
>
> Bud ?
>
>     The rear deck panel was the first area I had to have touched up after
> I bought the car back in 1989.  My top actually seemed to seal pretty well
> especially around the windows.  It definitely stiffened the car up ? less
> scuttle shake, less twisting over bumps.  But it?s a convertible? that?s
> why the hardtop hasn?t been on the car in over 31 years.
>
> Dennis
>
>
>
> *From:* Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:08 AM
> *To:* BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net>
> *Cc:* dctr6 at optonline.net; triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
>
>
>
> One of the ways your TR6 will be transformed is the potential for
> scratches on the rear deck panel from the hard top riding on that rear
> panel. I quickly got rid of my hardtop because of that problem. You can try
> to protect the paint will a barrier of sorts but then the hardtop won't
> seal properly. The hardtop does make the TR6 look like a cool GT car but it
> is a semi permanent with pluses and minuses and the rear deck may suffer.
>
>
>
> Bud
>
>
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:53 PM, BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net> wrote:
>
> Any top in fair condition should bring easily $1,000. Any original top
> with transform a TR-6 in many ways.
>
>
> On October 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM dctr6 at optonline.net wrote:
>
>     A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 ? Any idea what
> these are going for these days?
>
> I?ve not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass
> ones (Parrish? $450  - $700) but
>
> he?s not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the
> top will dictate the price but
>
> he?s looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.
>
> Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U
>
>
>
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From vitop at sbcglobal.net  Wed Oct 21 18:15:22 2020
From: vitop at sbcglobal.net (Vito Pacione)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 19:15:22 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Windows and driveshaft for sale
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I have two sets of windows from a 74 TR6 for sale. Will sell individually if
you need. Also have a driveshaft from a non overdrive 74 TR6. I am in
Northern Houston

 

If anyone needs any of these, let me know. Just make a reasonable offer

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From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca  Thu Oct 22 19:21:17 2020
From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Yahoo)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 01:21:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Tr6 Hardtop
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There was one kicking around my club for 150.? ?It needed restoration.? ?I thought about? but nah it would end up in the garage rafters along with bldg materials old tires and stuff.? ?I barely use my soft top most years? ?It might make a good piece for a triumph guy's man cave?Cheers? Bruce Simms

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From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Oct 20 19:14:17 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 20:14:17 -0500
Subject: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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I?m curious ? why do you want a hardtop? 

 

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Richard Lindsay
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 12:45 PM
To: Gene Holtzclaw <motrv8d at hotmail.com>
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net; dctr6 at optonline.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value

 

I'd love to buy a correct hardtop for my '75 TR6...if I can find one that I can afford. I will repaint it so color and finish is unimportant. I even have a new, unopened convertible top that I can offer in trade.

 

rick

 

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:14 AM Gene Holtzclaw <motrv8d at hotmail.com <mailto:motrv8d at hotmail.com> > wrote:

I agree with all of this. I love the look of the hardtop, yet don't use it. I had my rear deck repainted. I put the hartop on shortly after. The VERY FIRST TIME I removed the top, a good friend helped. I emphasized picking it up higher at the rear so the deck wouldn't get scratched. Oh well. Scratched it is. Again. 

 

  _____  

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> > on behalf of dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>  <dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> >
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:35 AM
To: 'Bud Rolofson' <levilevi at comcast.net <mailto:levilevi at comcast.net> >
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net>  <triumphs at autox.team.net <mailto:triumphs at autox.team.net> >; 6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>  <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value 

 

Bud ? 

    The rear deck panel was the first area I had to have touched up after I bought the car back in 1989.  My top actually seemed to seal pretty well especially around the windows.  It definitely stiffened the car up ? less scuttle shake, less twisting over bumps.  But it?s a convertible? that?s why the hardtop hasn?t been on the car in over 31 years.

Dennis   

 

From: Bud Rolofson <levilevi at comcast.net <mailto:levilevi at comcast.net> > 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:08 AM
To: BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net <mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net> >
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Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value

 

One of the ways your TR6 will be transformed is the potential for scratches on the rear deck panel from the hard top riding on that rear panel. I quickly got rid of my hardtop because of that problem. You can try to protect the paint will a barrier of sorts but then the hardtop won't seal properly. The hardtop does make the TR6 look like a cool GT car but it is a semi permanent with pluses and minuses and the rear deck may suffer.

 

Bud



Sent from my Commodore 64


On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:53 PM, BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net <mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net> > wrote:

Any top in fair condition should bring easily $1,000. Any original top with transform a TR-6 in many ways. 



On October 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM dctr6 at optonline.net <mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net>  wrote: 

    A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 ? Any idea what these are going for these days? 

I?ve not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones (Parrish? $450  - $700) but 

he?s not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top will dictate the price but 

he?s looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.

Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U   


  

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From mohawktriumphs at aol.com  Tue Oct 20 20:26:16 2020
From: mohawktriumphs at aol.com (mohawktriumphs)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 22:26:16 -0400
Subject: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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I have one ,allhardware,new hdlnr not instld,looking for
500,in ohio,won't ship.pix herewith...
                          Frank



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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 05:33:21 2020
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Strangely enough, I'm not a fan of open motoring.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 8:14 PM dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> I?m curious ? why do you want a hardtop?
>
>
>
> *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Lindsay
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 12:45 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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> I'd love to buy a correct hardtop for my '75 TR6...if I can find one that
> I can afford. I will repaint it so color and finish is unimportant. I even
> have a new, unopened convertible top that I can offer in trade.
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From motrv8d at hotmail.com  Fri Oct 23 17:57:30 2020
From: motrv8d at hotmail.com (Gene Holtzclaw)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 23:57:30 +0000
Subject: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value
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Because everyone doesn't have one?

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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 9:14:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value


I?m curious ? why do you want a hardtop?



From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Richard Lindsay
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 12:45 PM
To: Gene Holtzclaw <motrv8d at hotmail.com>
Cc: triumphs at autox.team.net; dctr6 at optonline.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value



I'd love to buy a correct hardtop for my '75 TR6...if I can find one that I can afford. I will repaint it so color and finish is unimportant. I even have a new, unopened convertible top that I can offer in trade.



rick



On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:14 AM Gene Holtzclaw <motrv8d at hotmail.com<mailto:motrv8d at hotmail.com>> wrote:

I agree with all of this. I love the look of the hardtop, yet don't use it. I had my rear deck repainted. I put the hartop on shortly after. The VERY FIRST TIME I removed the top, a good friend helped. I emphasized picking it up higher at the rear so the deck wouldn't get scratched. Oh well. Scratched it is. Again.



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To: 'Bud Rolofson' <levilevi at comcast.net<mailto:levilevi at comcast.net>>
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Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value



Bud ?

    The rear deck panel was the first area I had to have touched up after I bought the car back in 1989.  My top actually seemed to seal pretty well especially around the windows.  It definitely stiffened the car up ? less scuttle shake, less twisting over bumps.  But it?s a convertible? that?s why the hardtop hasn?t been on the car in over 31 years.

Dennis



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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:08 AM
To: BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net<mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net>>
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Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 OEM hardtop value



One of the ways your TR6 will be transformed is the potential for scratches on the rear deck panel from the hard top riding on that rear panel. I quickly got rid of my hardtop because of that problem. You can try to protect the paint will a barrier of sorts but then the hardtop won't seal properly. The hardtop does make the TR6 look like a cool GT car but it is a semi permanent with pluses and minuses and the rear deck may suffer.



Bud


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On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:53 PM, BILL WELLBAUM <wcwellbaum at cox.net<mailto:wcwellbaum at cox.net>> wrote:

Any top in fair condition should bring easily $1,000. Any original top with transform a TR-6 in many ways.


On October 12, 2020 at 1:42 PM dctr6 at optonline.net<mailto:dctr6 at optonline.net> wrote:

    A friend is looking at an OEM hardtop for his TR6 ? Any idea what these are going for these days?

I?ve not seen any for sale recently except for those crappy fiberglass ones (Parrish? $450  - $700) but

he?s not interested in one of those. I understand that condition of the top will dictate the price but

he?s looking for a ballpark figure. Thanks.

Dennis Culligan / Highland, NY/  1976 TR6 CF57948U



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From fszek at aol.com  Mon Oct 26 17:41:59 2020
From: fszek at aol.com (fszek)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 19:41:59 -0400
Subject: [6pack] Bumper gasket
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What do you use between bumper bracket and fascia to protect paint ? Not the sides,the face .
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 Frank



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From colinthom at shaw.ca  Tue Oct 27 15:39:21 2020
From: colinthom at shaw.ca (COLIN THOM)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 15:39:21 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [6pack] Bumper gasket
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I used some cut up bits of truck inner tube. The more delicate part is where the bumper bolts go through the fenders, on the sides. There, I used a rubber washer (Home Depot) against the paint, and a stack of fender washers between that and the bumper, filling the gap to prevent the fender from distorting and cracking the paint, as the bolt was tightened. One side has one more fender washer than the other. 

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What do you use between bumper bracket and fascia to protect paint ? Not the sides,the face . 
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From mohawktriumphs at aol.com  Tue Oct 27 19:47:03 2020
From: mohawktriumphs at aol.com (mohawktriumphs)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:47:03 -0400
Subject: [6pack] Factory hardtop
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In ohio,in primer,new headliner,all hardware and shiny objects, $500,u pick up,.pic attached.
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