[6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Mon Nov 4 07:42:39 MST 2019

 Here in Missouri we had a State Senator, Bud Barnes, who was an old car advocate and our antique car requirements are quite receptive to the hobby.  Antique plates are good forever (no renewal required) and we are allowed up to 2000 miles of personal use in addition to mileage to and from official events such as parades and car shows.  That is rarely enforced and as one police officer who was a member of our local club said "The major concern of violating this rule is from your insurance company."
Modern cars are subject to a biannual safety inspection and an EECIV scan which will report any non-compliance with emissions.

Dave 

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From: Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: taylorturbo6 <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:32 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Same here, Dave. We do have safety and emissions testing on newer cars here in Texas, and a passed test verification is required for the annual license renewal (about $75). Front license plates are required too but the law is typically ignored, especially for sports cars. All cars 25 years and older are not required to be emissions tested and if one chooses 'antique', 'classic', vanity plates, only the rear plate is required. Those specialty plates have a five year renewal, rather than annual, at only a slightly higher cost.
Rick
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:59 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

 I used to be up to speed on all the changes but I have forgotten it all.  But, perhaps they figured out the earlier systems were overkill and the bean counters insisted on cost reductions.
I don't know about your part of the country but here, nobody is looking over my shoulder so if it ain't up to snuff it's no big deal.
Cheers

Dave 

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From: Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
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Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 6:51 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Dave, this is just part of the fun! And I am not at all surprised by the changes given that this is an emissions issue. On my car, the tank vent is, or was plumbed via another pipe, to a carbon canister in the engine compartment.
Rick
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:19 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

 If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.  On my car there is a four-way T that connects this port and the ports at each end of the tank to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in turn connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.
But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.

Dave 

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From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
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Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...Dick
On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

 No, not all.  The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.  Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbing.  I thought they were all that way.

Dave 

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From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
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Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all? I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial. Dick 
On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:

 It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car it is hinged on the right.

Dave 

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From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
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Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Hello friends,    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
   Thanks in advance of your reply.
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