From jattr6 at hotmail.com  Fri Nov  1 00:52:19 2019
From: jattr6 at hotmail.com (James_)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 06:52:19 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Painted!
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Oh rusted bolts.. the joy. (Not!)
I?ll share with everyone some excellent penetrating oil. You can buy Kroil. Expensive but works. Or make your own. Equal parts of diesel fuel, brake fluid and acetone. Use a glass container or metal. Not plastic. Acetone will eat through plastic.

I?ve heard another mixture of power steering fluid and acetone. It was a particular type of power steering fluid. I know it was on YouTube and should be easy enough to find and watch the test of various products.
I?ve had great success using my mixture.
Good luck.
You don?t want to break off the bolts and have to make a trip to a machine shop. (Been there)


On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net<mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Update:

   Yes, I should have taken the bumpers off but the bolts are so rusted that they would have either broken or would have had to be sawed off. I chose the easier path since this a driver, not a 'correct' show car.
   The paint color is incorrect but again, a driver. The color is GM Cobalt Red if applied as a two stage with extra clear. Subsequent dings and problems can now be touched up with paint from any autoparts store in the States.
   The shop painted the underside of the bonnet and deck lids as well as inside the trunk. Door edges and jams are resprayed now too. They did not paint the engine bay. I want to do that myself, preserving labels, etc., and now can easily do so.
   I have not yet decided whether to spray the Kamm back satin black, or to leave it in red. I had them paint it red so I would have the choice. They did not paint below the lower chrome trim strip. I will respray that black. Same with the front spoiler. It will also get resprayed black. Rubber bumper protrusions too. Same satin black.
   I will not replace the British Leyland badges to the sides. British Leyland all but destroyed England's motorcar industry, like most things a government touches. I don't plan to replace their badges-of-failure on my car.
   This car also had the TRIUMPH letters and stripe down the lower sides, just above the trim strip. It will not be replaced. I haven't decided whether to apply the flag and 'TR6' letters on the sides ahead of the tail lights. I can add those at any time, if desired.
   The car comes home tomorrow and reassembly will begin.

Rick

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 9:54 AM Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com<mailto:richardolindsay at gmail.com>> wrote:
Painted!

Rick
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Fri Nov  1 05:27:22 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 06:27:22 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Painted!
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James > You don?t want to break off the bolts and have to make
James > a trip to a machine shop. (Been there)

Exactly

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, 1:52 AM James_ <jattr6 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Oh rusted bolts.. the joy. (Not!)
> I?ll share with everyone some excellent penetrating oil. You can buy
> Kroil. Expensive but works. Or make your own. Equal parts of diesel fuel,
> brake fluid and acetone. Use a glass container or metal. Not plastic.
> Acetone will eat through plastic.
>
> I?ve heard another mixture of power steering fluid and acetone. It was a
> particular type of power steering fluid. I know it was on YouTube and
> should be easy enough to find and watch the test of various products.
> I?ve had great success using my mixture.
> Good luck.
> You don?t want to break off the bolts and have to make a trip to a machine
> shop. (Been there)
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <
> 6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Update:
>
>    Yes, I should have taken the bumpers off but the bolts are so rusted
> that they would have either broken or would have had to be sawed off. I
> chose the easier path since this a driver, not a 'correct' show car.
>    The paint color is incorrect but again, a driver. The color is GM
> Cobalt Red if applied as a two stage with extra clear. Subsequent dings and
> problems can now be touched up with paint from any autoparts store in the
> States.
>    The shop painted the underside of the bonnet and deck lids as well as
> inside the trunk. Door edges and jams are resprayed now too. They did not
> paint the engine bay. I want to do that myself, preserving labels, etc.,
> and now can easily do so.
>    I have not yet decided whether to spray the Kamm back satin black, or
> to leave it in red. I had them paint it red so I would have the choice.
> They did not paint below the lower chrome trim strip. I will respray that
> black. Same with the front spoiler. It will also get resprayed black.
> Rubber bumper protrusions too. Same satin black.
>    I will not replace the British Leyland badges to the sides. British
> Leyland all but destroyed England's motorcar industry, like most things a
> government touches. I don't plan to replace their badges-of-failure on my
> car.
>    This car also had the TRIUMPH letters and stripe down the lower sides,
> just above the trim strip. It will not be replaced. I haven't decided
> whether to apply the flag and 'TR6' letters on the sides ahead of the tail
> lights. I can add those at any time, if desired.
>    The car comes home tomorrow and reassembly will begin.
>
> Rick
>
> On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 9:54 AM Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Painted!
>>
>> Rick
>>
> <20191030_082537.jpg>
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Fri Nov  1 09:55:56 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2019 10:55:56 -0500
Subject: [6pack] TR6 tail light lenses
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dx8YKe2V=Q3hhMeLU1jxR0VPU5D=o3Ve5ZMd29QjY7JaA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Friends,
   Not too long ago, a friendly member of this group offered a pair of TR6
lenses for sale. Are you still out there and are the lenses still
available? If so, PM me please.

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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sun Nov  3 09:50:30 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 10:50:30 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello friends,
   If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you
will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask
anyway, for your sage advice:

When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation?
Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?

   Thanks in advance of your reply.

Rick
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From jattr6 at hotmail.com  Sun Nov  3 10:10:11 2019
From: jattr6 at hotmail.com (James_)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:10:11 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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Hinge toward passenger. 
Opening conveniently accessed by driver.

> On Nov 3, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello friends, 
>    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
> 
> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
> 
>    Thanks in advance of your reply.
> 
> Rick
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sun Nov  3 10:25:16 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 11:25:16 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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   Thanks everyone. Mine will now go on opening toward the driver side,
hinge toward the passenger side.

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From anabil007 at comcast.net  Sun Nov  3 10:30:52 2019
From: anabil007 at comcast.net (anabil007)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 09:30:52 -0800
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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Depends on what you intended for using the car...factory put it on passenger side...remember that the car was made for right hand side...so to open the hinges are on the left...strick  Concours Judges would look for that ( I know that from experince ) also the gauges were placed for right hand drive, after we retired from Concours, SCAA I reversed the gauges, making it much easery to see oil pressure and temp.
So...if yours is to be a driver...put them where it is where YOU want,

Bill Pugh
Wallace, CA


> On Nov 3, 2019, at 9:13 AM, James_ via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?Hinge toward passenger. 
> Opening conveniently accessed by driver.
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello friends, 
>>   If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
>> 
>> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
>> 
>>   Thanks in advance of your reply.
>> 
>> Rick
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From jattr6 at hotmail.com  Sun Nov  3 11:27:58 2019
From: jattr6 at hotmail.com (James_)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 18:27:58 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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Interesting. 
I?d love to know what order the gauges were shipped as. 
My car was from the original owner - I suppose they may have turned the gas cap for convenience. Apparently so. I thought the factory shipped to align with driver seat. 

> On Nov 3, 2019, at 9:30 AM, anabil007 <anabil007 at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Depends on what you intended for using the car...factory put it on passenger side...remember that the car was made for right hand side...so to open the hinges are on the left...strick  Concours Judges would look for that ( I know that from experince ) also the gauges were placed for right hand drive, after we retired from Concours, SCAA I reversed the gauges, making it much easery to see oil pressure and temp.
> So...if yours is to be a driver...put them where it is where YOU want,
> 
> Bill Pugh
> Wallace, CA
> 
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 9:13 AM, James_ via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Hinge toward passenger. 
>> Opening conveniently accessed by driver.
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello friends, 
>>>  If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
>>> 
>>> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
>>> 
>>>  Thanks in advance of your reply.
>>> 
>>> Rick
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Sun Nov  3 13:56:07 2019
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 14:56:07 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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I would place the filler opening side on the same side as my daily driver's
filler side.  That way if you go through much of your life on autopilot (as
I seem to be doing more and more these days) you will pull up on the
correct side of the pump without thought (although it is pretty easy to
make either side work on the TR4-6, bigger trick is not dripping petrol on
the valence).

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019, 12:28 PM James_ via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Interesting.
> I?d love to know what order the gauges were shipped as.
> My car was from the original owner - I suppose they may have turned the
> gas cap for convenience. Apparently so. I thought the factory shipped to
> align with driver seat.
>
> > On Nov 3, 2019, at 9:30 AM, anabil007 <anabil007 at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > Depends on what you intended for using the car...factory put it on
> passenger side...remember that the car was made for right hand side...so to
> open the hinges are on the left...strick  Concours Judges would look for
> that ( I know that from experince ) also the gauges were placed for right
> hand drive, after we retired from Concours, SCAA I reversed the gauges,
> making it much easery to see oil pressure and temp.
> > So...if yours is to be a driver...put them where it is where YOU want,
> >
> > Bill Pugh
> > Wallace, CA
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 3, 2019, at 9:13 AM, James_ via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Hinge toward passenger.
> >> Opening conveniently accessed by driver.
> >>
> >>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <
> 6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello friends,
> >>>  If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you
> will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask
> anyway, for your sage advice:
> >>>
> >>> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct
> orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or
> another?
> >>>
> >>>  Thanks in advance of your reply.
> >>>
> >>> Rick
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sun Nov  3 15:23:00 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 16:23:00 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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> bigger trick is not dripping petrol on the valence).

   I carry towels and detail spray.

R
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun Nov  3 15:34:25 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 22:34:25 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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 It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.? If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.? On my car it is hinged on the right.
 
Dave 

 
 
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From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Hello friends,?? ?If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
? ?Thanks in advance of your reply.
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sun Nov  3 16:55:15 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:55:15 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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On my 1975 car, the tank vent is on the tank. The vent port ofn the filler
casting is not drilled.

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019, 4:34 PM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

> It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler
> and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish
> to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car
> it is hinged on the right.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
> Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
>
> Hello friends,
>    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you
> will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask
> anyway, for your sage advice:
>
> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation?
> Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
>
>    Thanks in advance of your reply.
>
> Rick
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From taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  3 17:05:36 2019
From: taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com (Richard)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 16:05:36 -0800
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
In-Reply-To: <11531325.367820.1572820465953@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>
 <11531325.367820.1572820465953@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AFAACA19-278D-4010-BF1A-1EC692D92AFB@yahoo.com>

On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all? 
I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial. 
Dick 

> On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car it is hinged on the right.
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
> Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
> 
> Hello friends, 
>    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
> 
> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
> 
>    Thanks in advance of your reply.
> 
> Rick
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From taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  3 17:05:36 2019
From: taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com (Richard)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 16:05:36 -0800
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
In-Reply-To: <11531325.367820.1572820465953@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>
 <11531325.367820.1572820465953@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AFAACA19-278D-4010-BF1A-1EC692D92AFB@yahoo.com>

On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all? 
I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial. 
Dick 

> On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car it is hinged on the right.
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
> Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
> 
> Hello friends, 
>    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
> 
> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
> 
>    Thanks in advance of your reply.
> 
> Rick
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun Nov  3 19:37:32 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 02:37:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
In-Reply-To: <CAOc+-dwdhHYrB=axc1Vu8E6BBzcp6FNhB=sWHs788vv7U04eaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>
 <11531325.367820.1572820465953@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CAOc+-dwdhHYrB=axc1Vu8E6BBzcp6FNhB=sWHs788vv7U04eaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1965475935.425097.1572835052685@mail.yahoo.com>

 That's different than on my 71 which has two tank vents and a vent on the filler neck.? Interesting.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

On my 1975 car, the tank vent is on the tank. The vent port ofn the filler casting is not drilled.

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019, 4:34 PM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

 It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.? If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.? On my car it is hinged on the right.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Hello friends,?? ?If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
? ?Thanks in advance of your reply.
Rick_______________________________________________
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sun Nov  3 19:47:08 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 02:47:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
In-Reply-To: <AFAACA19-278D-4010-BF1A-1EC692D92AFB@yahoo.com>
References: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>
 <11531325.367820.1572820465953@mail.yahoo.com>
 <AFAACA19-278D-4010-BF1A-1EC692D92AFB@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1257745781.437111.1572835628735@mail.yahoo.com>

 No, not all.? The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.? Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbing.? I thought they were all that way.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all??I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial.?Dick?
On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:


 It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.? If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.? On my car it is hinged on the right.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Hello friends,?? ?If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
? ?Thanks in advance of your reply.
Rick_______________________________________________
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From taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  3 20:39:09 2019
From: taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com (Richard)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 19:39:09 -0800
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
In-Reply-To: <1257745781.437111.1572835628735@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>
 <11531325.367820.1572820465953@mail.yahoo.com>
 <AFAACA19-278D-4010-BF1A-1EC692D92AFB@yahoo.com>
 <1257745781.437111.1572835628735@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <73AD9CA3-D4BF-4271-BEBA-5FFC28A1C2BF@yahoo.com>

Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...
Dick

> On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
> 
> No, not all.  The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.  Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbing.  I thought they were all that way.
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
> Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
> 
> On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all? 
> I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial. 
> Dick 
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car it is hinged on the right.
>> 
>> Dave 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
>> To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
>> Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
>> 
>> Hello friends, 
>>    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
>> 
>> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
>> 
>>    Thanks in advance of your reply.
>> 
>> Rick
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From taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  3 20:39:09 2019
From: taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com (Richard)
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 19:39:09 -0800
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
In-Reply-To: <1257745781.437111.1572835628735@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>
 <11531325.367820.1572820465953@mail.yahoo.com>
 <AFAACA19-278D-4010-BF1A-1EC692D92AFB@yahoo.com>
 <1257745781.437111.1572835628735@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <73AD9CA3-D4BF-4271-BEBA-5FFC28A1C2BF@yahoo.com>

Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...
Dick

> On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
> 
> No, not all.  The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.  Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbing.  I thought they were all that way.
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
> Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
> 
> On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all? 
> I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial. 
> Dick 
> 
>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car it is hinged on the right.
>> 
>> Dave 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
>> To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
>> Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
>> 
>> Hello friends, 
>>    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
>> 
>> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
>> 
>>    Thanks in advance of your reply.
>> 
>> Rick
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Nov  4 05:19:57 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 12:19:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
In-Reply-To: <73AD9CA3-D4BF-4271-BEBA-5FFC28A1C2BF@yahoo.com>
References: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>
 <11531325.367820.1572820465953@mail.yahoo.com>
 <AFAACA19-278D-4010-BF1A-1EC692D92AFB@yahoo.com>
 <1257745781.437111.1572835628735@mail.yahoo.com>
 <73AD9CA3-D4BF-4271-BEBA-5FFC28A1C2BF@yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1180884584.520690.1572869997660@mail.yahoo.com>

 If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.? On my car there is a four-way T that connects this port and the ports at each end of the tank to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in turn connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.
But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...Dick
On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:


 No, not all.? The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.? Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbing.? I thought they were all that way.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all??I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial.?Dick?
On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:


 It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.? If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.? On my car it is hinged on the right.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Hello friends,?? ?If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
? ?Thanks in advance of your reply.
Rick_______________________________________________
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Mon Nov  4 05:50:49 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 06:50:49 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
In-Reply-To: <1180884584.520690.1572869997660@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>
 <11531325.367820.1572820465953@mail.yahoo.com>
 <AFAACA19-278D-4010-BF1A-1EC692D92AFB@yahoo.com>
 <1257745781.437111.1572835628735@mail.yahoo.com>
 <73AD9CA3-D4BF-4271-BEBA-5FFC28A1C2BF@yahoo.com>
 <1180884584.520690.1572869997660@mail.yahoo.com>
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Dave, this is just part of the fun! And I am not at all surprised by the
changes given that this is an emissions issue. On my car, the tank vent is,
or was plumbed via another pipe, to a carbon canister in the engine
compartment.

Rick

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:19 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

> If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.  On my car there is a
> four-way T that connects this port and the ports at each end of the tank to
> a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in turn
> connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.
>
> But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
> Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <
> 6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
>
> Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the
> trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's
> interior...
> Dick
>
> On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
>
> No, not all.  The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.
> Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the
> plumbing.  I thought they were all that way.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
> Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <
> 6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
>
> On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be
> moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't
> they all?
> I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right
> the cap opens is immaterial.
> Dick
>
> On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler
> and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish
> to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car
> it is hinged on the right.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
> Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
>
> Hello friends,
>    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you
> will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask
> anyway, for your sage advice:
>
> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation?
> Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
>
>    Thanks in advance of your reply.
>
> Rick
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Nov  4 05:59:16 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 12:59:16 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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References: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>
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 I used to be up to speed on all the changes but I have forgotten it all.? But, perhaps they figured out the earlier systems were overkill and the bean counters insisted on cost reductions.
I don't know about your part of the country but here, nobody is looking over my shoulder so if it ain't up to snuff it's no big deal.
Cheers
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: taylorturbo6 <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 6:51 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Dave, this is just part of the fun! And I am not at all surprised by the changes given that this is an emissions issue. On my car, the tank vent is, or was plumbed via another pipe, to a carbon canister in the engine compartment.
Rick
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:19 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

 If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.? On my car there is a four-way T that connects this port and the ports at each end of the tank to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in turn connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.
But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...Dick
On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:


 No, not all.? The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.? Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbing.? I thought they were all that way.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all??I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial.?Dick?
On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:


 It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.? If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.? On my car it is hinged on the right.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Hello friends,?? ?If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
? ?Thanks in advance of your reply.
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Mon Nov  4 06:32:07 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 07:32:07 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
In-Reply-To: <1263610158.509640.1572872356067@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>
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Same here, Dave. We do have safety and emissions testing on newer cars here
in Texas, and a passed test verification is required for the annual license
renewal (about $75). Front license plates are required too but the law is
typically ignored, especially for sports cars. All cars 25 years and older
are not required to be emissions tested and if one chooses 'antique',
'classic', vanity plates, only the rear plate is required. Those specialty
plates have a five year renewal, rather than annual, at only a slightly
higher cost.

Rick

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:59 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

> I used to be up to speed on all the changes but I have forgotten it all.
> But, perhaps they figured out the earlier systems were overkill and the
> bean counters insisted on cost reductions.
>
> I don't know about your part of the country but here, nobody is looking
> over my shoulder so if it ain't up to snuff it's no big deal.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
> Cc: taylorturbo6 <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 6:51 am
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
>
> Dave, this is just part of the fun! And I am not at all surprised by the
> changes given that this is an emissions issue. On my car, the tank vent is,
> or was plumbed via another pipe, to a carbon canister in the engine
> compartment.
>
> Rick
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:19 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
>
> If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.  On my car there is a
> four-way T that connects this port and the ports at each end of the tank to
> a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in turn
> connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.
>
> But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
> Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <
> 6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
>
> Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the
> trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's
> interior...
> Dick
>
> On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
>
> No, not all.  The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.
> Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the
> plumbing.  I thought they were all that way.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
> Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <
> 6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
>
> On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be
> moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't
> they all?
> I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right
> the cap opens is immaterial.
> Dick
>
> On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler
> and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish
> to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car
> it is hinged on the right.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
> Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
>
> Hello friends,
>    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you
> will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask
> anyway, for your sage advice:
>
> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation?
> Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
>
>    Thanks in advance of your reply.
>
> Rick
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From john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk  Mon Nov  4 06:38:46 2019
From: john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk (John Macartney)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 13:38:46 -0000
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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Dave Massey wrote:

>If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.  On my car there is a four-way T that connects this port >and the ports at each end of the tank to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in >turn connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.

 

>>>>>But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.

 

My response really concentrates on Dave?s last sentence and at the risk of a little verbosity (intended to clarify) this is how it often was for North American spec cars built outside the US and classified as imports.

Let?s take for example a car that would be the current model on 1st Jan 1970 and on sale in the destination market as at that date.

The Federal Bureau of Vehicle Safety Standards (or whatever it called itself in the days before the internet or mobile phones/faxes and when we still used carbon paper) would give overseas manufacturers selling cars in the US, an outline of the *likely* changes that would be current for the next model year. This info was usually made available to us by end January 1969 with the rider that they would not be final until authorised by the FBVSS in late June/early July 1969.

So the vehicle manufacturers went balls out to build/modify cars for the next sales year with all the modifications the anticipated legislation would require ? including the wording, font size, whatever of sticky labels to be placed wherever. There was something of a frenzy is the emission regs for California** were due to be tightened up even further and everyone crossed their legs and fingers that the current engine range would meet requirements.

At mid-summer 1969, FBVSS would confirm specs for 1970. Sometimes, they deleted a requirement ? and sometimes pitched in a ?naughty? they hadn?t indicated earlier. Mixed sighs of relief and ?oh s**t? moments.

Five models of each car are built to the 1970 spec and shipped (often airfreighted) to the States for FBVSS evaluation and rubber-stamping so that the models can be sold next year. By now, we?re mid to end August 1969. If everything is OK?d or nodded through, everything goes beserk in Coventry to build and ship the cars required to be in the US for Jan 1, 1970. Usually, the quantities were to meet a six week stock depth across the US and to achieve this, often meant vehicle to all other world markets stopped. Then when it re-commenced, there were all the other changes those other 150 odd world markets wanted included as well. Then, for good measure, a few wildcards might get thrown in the works like a supplier strike or dock workers strike and everything stopped. Then flat out again to clear the backlog.

I was having an informal chat some years ago with the late Mike Cook about this whole shenanigans and he confirmed that Detroit always got preferential treatment by receiving outline and confirmed specs for the next model year a good six months earlier than everyone else ? i.e. the imported stuff. Good capitalist protectionism? 

To make matters worse, the standards for Detroit product and Joe Soap?s imported product were nearly always different inasmuch as the imports had a harder job to meet the specs in terms of what they were (i.e. we were expected to do more than Detroit) and six months less time in which to do it. Frankly, I think it?s amazing we ever sold anything at all and of all the European manufacturers who moaned and bellyached about the extra work, Volkswagen were the worst by far.

 

Jonmac

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com <mailto:taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com> >
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> >
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com <mailto:richardolindsay at gmail.com> >; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> >
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...

Dick


On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> > wrote:

No, not all.  The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.  Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbing.  I thought they were all that way.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com <mailto:taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com> >
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> >
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com <mailto:richardolindsay at gmail.com> >; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> >
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all? 

I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial. 

Dick 


On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> > wrote:

It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car it is hinged on the right.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> >
To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> >
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Hello friends,  

   If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:

 

When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?

 

   Thanks in advance of your reply.

 

Rick

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From yellowtr at adelphia.net  Mon Nov  4 06:50:40 2019
From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 08:50:40 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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Not sure what is correct for the 6 but my 3, 4 and 6 all open from 
driver side to passenger. I am used to filling up from the drivers side. 
Funny thing is my truck and wifes car also fill from the drivers side. I 
guess I just like to make life a bit simpler.

Bob


From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Nov  4 07:42:39 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 14:42:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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 Here in Missouri we had a State Senator, Bud Barnes, who was an old car advocate and our antique car requirements are quite receptive to the hobby.? Antique plates are good forever (no renewal required) and we are allowed up to 2000 miles of personal use in addition to mileage to and from official events such as parades and car shows.? That is rarely enforced and as one police officer who was a member of our local club said "The major concern of violating this rule is from your insurance company."
Modern cars are subject to a biannual safety inspection and an EECIV scan which will report any non-compliance with emissions.
 
Dave 

 
 
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To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: taylorturbo6 <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:32 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Same here, Dave. We do have safety and emissions testing on newer cars here in Texas, and a passed test verification is required for the annual license renewal (about $75). Front license plates are required too but the law is typically ignored, especially for sports cars. All cars 25 years and older are not required to be emissions tested and if one chooses 'antique', 'classic', vanity plates, only the rear plate is required. Those specialty plates have a five year renewal, rather than annual, at only a slightly higher cost.
Rick
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:59 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

 I used to be up to speed on all the changes but I have forgotten it all.? But, perhaps they figured out the earlier systems were overkill and the bean counters insisted on cost reductions.
I don't know about your part of the country but here, nobody is looking over my shoulder so if it ain't up to snuff it's no big deal.
Cheers
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: taylorturbo6 <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 6:51 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Dave, this is just part of the fun! And I am not at all surprised by the changes given that this is an emissions issue. On my car, the tank vent is, or was plumbed via another pipe, to a carbon canister in the engine compartment.
Rick
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:19 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

 If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.? On my car there is a four-way T that connects this port and the ports at each end of the tank to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in turn connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.
But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...Dick
On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:


 No, not all.? The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.? Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbing.? I thought they were all that way.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all??I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial.?Dick?
On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:


 It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.? If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.? On my car it is hinged on the right.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Hello friends,?? ?If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
? ?Thanks in advance of your reply.
Rick_______________________________________________
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Nov  4 07:53:11 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 14:53:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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 Thank you, John, for putting this into perspective.? We often forget what shackles were constraining the engineers.? They did an admirable job considering the cost constraints and the limits of technology at the time.
 
Dave 

 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: John Macartney <john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk>
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey at cs.com>; taylorturbo6 <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:38 am
Subject: RE: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

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From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientationDoes this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...Dick
On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:
No, not all.? The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.? Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbing.? I thought they were all that way. ?Dave  ? ?-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientationOn my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all??I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial.?Dick?
On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.? If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.? On my car it is hinged on the right. ?Dave  ? ?-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientationHello friends,? ? ?If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice: ?When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another? ?? ?Thanks in advance of your reply. ?Rick_______________________________________________
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Nov  4 08:03:10 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 15:03:10 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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 There was a Chevy in the mid to late 60's that had the filler in the middle of the rear of the car behind the license plate.? Other than that, American cars all had the filler on one side or the other and there doesn't seem to be a preference one way or the other.? A manufacturer will produce different model cars with the filler on either side.? It makes for great fun when pulling into a filling station in the rental car.
I can rotate the TR3 filler to where ever i please but I keep the hing on the left to be consistent with the TR6.? Since I am accustom to this orientation I will keep it as such.
 
Dave 

 
 
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From: Bob via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
To: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:50 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Not sure what is correct for the 6 but my 3, 4 and 6 all open from 
driver side to passenger. I am used to filling up from the drivers side. 
Funny thing is my truck and wifes car also fill from the drivers side. I 
guess I just like to make life a bit simpler.

Bob

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From stan at redtr6.com  Mon Nov  4 08:10:40 2019
From: stan at redtr6.com (Stan Foster)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 15:10:40 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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All modern cars have a small pointer on the gas gauge that tells you which side the filler is on.

Stan

From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of DAVID MASSEY via 6pack
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:03 AM
To: yellowtr at adelphia.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

There was a Chevy in the mid to late 60's that had the filler in the middle of the rear of the car behind the license plate.  Other than that, American cars all had the filler on one side or the other and there doesn't seem to be a preference one way or the other.  A manufacturer will produce different model cars with the filler on either side.  It makes for great fun when pulling into a filling station in the rental car.

I can rotate the TR3 filler to where ever i please but I keep the hing on the left to be consistent with the TR6.  Since I am accustom to this orientation I will keep it as such.

Dave


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To: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net<mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:50 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
Not sure what is correct for the 6 but my 3, 4 and 6 all open from
driver side to passenger. I am used to filling up from the drivers side.
Funny thing is my truck and wifes car also fill from the drivers side. I
guess I just like to make life a bit simpler.

Bob


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From john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk  Mon Nov  4 09:35:24 2019
From: john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk (John Macartney)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 16:35:24 -0000
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
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The pleasure is entirely mine ?. I see from the VTR facebook page today that Shawn Frank has commented a Vitesse (Sports 6) at Dripping Springs this year had a wet liner engine. Really? I had two and both had dry liners with a siamesed block between cyls 3 and 4. Also, the car illustrated is in Lichfield Green yet the car has 2 litre badges on it from what I can see. If it is a 2 litre, I doubt it left the factory in that colour as it had long since been discontinued. Maybe a respray? Is it a 1600 or a 2 litre. Who knows but it may be a bit of a ?ringer? for the unwary.

 

Jonmac

 

From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
Sent: 04 November 2019 14:53
To: john.macartney at UKPIPS.Org.uk; taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

 

Thank you, John, for putting this into perspective.  We often forget what shackles were constraining the engineers.  They did an admirable job considering the cost constraints and the limits of technology at the time.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Macartney <john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk>
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <dave1massey at cs.com>; taylorturbo6 <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
Cc: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:38 am
Subject: RE: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Dave Massey wrote:

>If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.  On my car there is a four-way T that connects this port >and the ports at each end of the tank to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in >turn connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.

 

>>>>>But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.

 

My response really concentrates on Dave?s last sentence and at the risk of a little verbosity (intended to clarify) this is how it often was for North American spec cars built outside the US and classified as imports.

Let?s take for example a car that would be the current model on 1st Jan 1970 and on sale in the destination market as at that date.

The Federal Bureau of Vehicle Safety Standards (or whatever it called itself in the days before the internet or mobile phones/faxes and when we still used carbon paper) would give overseas manufacturers selling cars in the US, an outline of the *likely* changes that would be current for the next model year. This info was usually made available to us by end January 1969 with the rider that they would not be final until authorised by the FBVSS in late June/early July 1969.

So the vehicle manufacturers went balls out to build/modify cars for the next sales year with all the modifications the anticipated legislation would require ? including the wording, font size, whatever of sticky labels to be placed wherever. There was something of a frenzy is the emission regs for California** were due to be tightened up even further and everyone crossed their legs and fingers that the current engine range would meet requirements.

At mid-summer 1969, FBVSS would confirm specs for 1970. Sometimes, they deleted a requirement ? and sometimes pitched in a ?naughty? they hadn?t indicated earlier. Mixed sighs of relief and ?oh s**t? moments.

Five models of each car are built to the 1970 spec and shipped (often airfreighted) to the States for FBVSS evaluation and rubber-stamping so that the models can be sold next year. By now, we?re mid to end August 1969. If everything is OK?d or nodded through, everything goes beserk in Coventry to build and ship the cars required to be in the US for Jan 1, 1970. Usually, the quantities were to meet a six week stock depth across the US and to achieve this, often meant vehicle to all other world markets stopped. Then when it re-commenced, there were all the other changes those other 150 odd world markets wanted included as well. Then, for good measure, a few wildcards might get thrown in the works like a supplier strike or dock workers strike and everything stopped. Then flat out again to clear the backlog.

I was having an informal chat some years ago with the late Mike Cook about this whole shenanigans and he confirmed that Detroit always got preferential treatment by receiving outline and confirmed specs for the next model year a good six months earlier than everyone else ? i.e. the imported stuff. Good capitalist protectionism? 

To make matters worse, the standards for Detroit product and Joe Soap?s imported product were nearly always different inasmuch as the imports had a harder job to meet the specs in terms of what they were (i.e. we were expected to do more than Detroit) and six months less time in which to do it. Frankly, I think it?s amazing we ever sold anything at all and of all the European manufacturers who moaned and bellyached about the extra work, Volkswagen were the worst by far.

 

Jonmac

 

 

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From: Richard <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com <mailto:taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com> >
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> >
Cc: richardolindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com <mailto:richardolindsay at gmail.com> >; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> >
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...

Dick


On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY < <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> dave1massey at cs.com> wrote:

No, not all.  The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.  Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbing.  I thought they were all that way.

 

Dave 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard < <mailto:taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com> taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY < <mailto:dave1massey at cs.com> dave1massey at cs.com>
Cc: richardolindsay < <mailto:richardolindsay at gmail.com> richardolindsay at gmail.com>; 6pack < <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all? 

I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial. 

Dick 


On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack < <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:

It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car it is hinged on the right.

 

Dave 

 

 

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From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack < <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> 6pack at autox.team.net>
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Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Hello friends,  

   If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:

 

When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?

 

   Thanks in advance of your reply.

 

Rick

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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Nov  4 10:50:35 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 17:50:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation
In-Reply-To: <CO2PR05MB26780112CF7150D90D5124B7FE7F0@CO2PR05MB2678.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAOc+-dwK039GGxTNKuSWwCZV0LSaSkKp_Ar3yRrArKY6myUriw@mail.gmail.com>
 <11531325.367820.1572820465953@mail.yahoo.com>
 <AFAACA19-278D-4010-BF1A-1EC692D92AFB@yahoo.com>
 <1257745781.437111.1572835628735@mail.yahoo.com>
 <73AD9CA3-D4BF-4271-BEBA-5FFC28A1C2BF@yahoo.com>
 <1180884584.520690.1572869997660@mail.yahoo.com>
 <008f01d59315$2f531cf0$8df956d0$@ukpips.org.uk>
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 Yeah and if I had thought to look at it BEFORE pulling up to the pump...
 
Dave 

 
 
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From: Stan Foster <stan at redtr6.com>
To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com>; Triumph 6 Pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 9:10 am
Subject: RE: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

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Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:03 AM
To: yellowtr at adelphia.net; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation  ? There was a Chevy in the mid to late 60's that had the filler in the middle of the rear of the car behind the license plate.? Other than that, American cars all had the filler on one side or the other and there doesn't seem to be a preference one way or the other.? A manufacturer will produce different model cars with the filler on either side.? It makes for great fun when pulling into a filling station in the rental car.  ? I can rotate the TR3 filler to where ever i please but I keep the hing on the left to be consistent with the TR6.? Since I am accustom to this orientation I will keep it as such.  ? Dave  ?  ? -----Original Message-----
From: Bob via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
To: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:50 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation Not sure what is correct for the 6 but my 3, 4 and 6 all open from
driver side to passenger. I am used to filling up from the drivers side. 
Funny thing is my truck and wifes car also fill from the drivers side. I 
guess I just like to make life a bit simpler.

Bob  

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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Mon Nov  4 11:15:21 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 12:15:21 -0600
Subject: [6pack] MY fuel filler orientation
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   Thanks everyone for the advice and an interesting thread.
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Mon Nov  4 15:07:57 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 22:07:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] MY fuel filler orientation
References: <1919558581.715511.1572905277684.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1919558581.715511.1572905277684@mail.yahoo.com>

 Above is the illustration from the Roadster Factory catalog showing the tank vent routing.? As can be seen there is a tube from the connector on the filler (what is not shown but was installed on my car is another vent on the top-left-rear and another on the top-front-right of the tank, all three vents are teed together) to the fuel separator on the right side of the boot.? Another tube attached to the separator runs forward, across the top of the tank, rearward along the left side of the boot, across the boot to the right again then forward and then across the car below the tank and then down to the frame to the charcoal canister.? I guess they were really really concerned about getting any liquid gas in the charcoal and having only a few months to design and test the system they over designed it.? Works well enough as I have never had any such issues.
 

Dave (AKA anorak)

 
 
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Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 12:41 pm
Subject: [6pack] MY fuel filler orientation

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From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca  Mon Nov  4 15:30:49 2019
From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Yahoo)
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 22:30:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel Filler -  gas smells
References: <739344641.731154.1572906649119.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <739344641.731154.1572906649119@mail.yahoo.com>

The filler orientation thread got me thinking.
I get gas bad gas vapour smells in the cockpit sometimes - particularly after a fill-up. ??gas tank was removed and rad shop cleaned and inside tank coated a number of years ago.? Installed a new rubber filler tube at the time.
Ideas or experience on how to fix the bad smells?
Thank you,
Bruce Simms 73 TR6
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Tue Nov  5 05:14:46 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:14:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel Filler -  gas smells
In-Reply-To: <739344641.731154.1572906649119@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <739344641.731154.1572906649119.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <1913390163.882388.1572956086371@mail.yahoo.com>

I believe I responded to this yesterday but to elaborate I will add the following:
Below is a snippet from the Roadster Factory catalog showing the emissions control system.
 
Check the placement of the hose clamps on the filler hose.? I messed mine up and had a terrible smell of petrol.? It is easy to put the clamps in the wrong position where they will not properly seal off the connection.? 

When that checks out have a close look at the connection to the charcoal canister.? The connections to the plastic tubing are made with fuel hose.? Old fuel hose becomes brittle and will not seal properly and can pull off easily and this could cause your problem.? As can be seen, there is a port on the top of the tank.? This is connected to a fuel/vapor separator (AS1) which in turn is connected to the plastic line leading to the charcoal canister.? A breach at any point along this route can cause the problem you describe.
Good luck.

Dave 

 
 
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From: Yahoo via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
To: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 4:31 pm
Subject: [6pack] Fuel Filler - gas smells

The filler orientation thread got me thinking.
I get gas bad gas vapour smells in the cockpit sometimes - particularly after a fill-up. ??gas tank was removed and rad shop cleaned and inside tank coated a number of years ago.? Installed a new rubber filler tube at the time.
Ideas or experience on how to fix the bad smells?
Thank you,
Bruce Simms 73 TR6_______________________________________________
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From colinthom at shaw.ca  Tue Nov  5 11:18:29 2019
From: colinthom at shaw.ca (COLIN THOM)
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 11:18:29 -0700 (MST)
Subject: [6pack] Fuel Filler -  gas smells
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Two things: 

Tighten the hose clamps on the filler hose. New hoses compress and it's a good idea to get in there and tighten the hose clamps. You're smelling gas because it's leaking somewhere and it only takes a very small leak to make a lot of stink. When the filler hose seeps a bit the vapors get into the trunk and the cockpit. 

When you're filling the tank, try to stop before the gas pump shuts off automatically. You don't want fuel sitting in the filler hose. 

Colin 


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The filler orientation thread got me thinking. 
I get gas bad gas vapour smells in the cockpit sometimes - particularly after a fill-up. ??gas tank was removed and rad shop cleaned and inside tank coated a number of years ago.? Installed a new rubber filler tube at the time. 
Ideas or experience on how to fix the bad smells? 
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From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey at cs.com> 
To: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca, 6pack at autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel Filler - gas smells 
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I believe I responded to this yesterday but to elaborate I will add the following: 
Below is a snippet from the Roadster Factory catalog showing the emissions control system. 

Check the placement of the hose clamps on the filler hose.? I messed mine up and had a terrible smell of petrol.? It is easy to put the clamps in the wrong position where they will not properly seal off the connection.? 

When that checks out have a close look at the connection to the charcoal canister.? The connections to the plastic tubing are made with fuel hose.? Old fuel hose becomes brittle and will not seal properly and can pull off easily and this could cause your problem.? As can be seen, there is a port on the top of the tank.? This is connected to a fuel/vapor separator (AS1) which in turn is connected to the plastic line leading to the charcoal canister.? A breach at any point along this route can cause the problem you describe. 
Good luck. 

Dave 



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From: Yahoo via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> 
To: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 4:31 pm 
Subject: [6pack] Fuel Filler - gas smells 

The filler orientation thread got me thinking. 
I get gas bad gas vapour smells in the cockpit sometimes - particularly after a fill-up. ??gas tank was removed and rad shop cleaned and inside tank coated a number of years ago.? Installed a new rubber filler tube at the time. 
Ideas or experience on how to fix the bad smells? 
Thank you, 
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From auprichard at uprichard.net  Wed Nov  6 14:13:02 2019
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (Andrew Uprichard)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:13:02 -0500
Subject: [6pack] VINs
Message-ID: <006b01d594e6$fa6eec20$ef4cc460$@uprichard.net>

I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive.  The
old title appropriately ended "LO", but I was told that "Os" and "Is" are no
longer acceptable in titles.  So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to
"L0".  Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to
them and have them send me a proof of insurance with "L0".

 

Anyone else come across this?  Maybe it has been going on for years:  I have
4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, MI

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From k6na at cts.com  Wed Nov  6 15:48:51 2019
From: k6na at cts.com (Glenn Rattmann)
Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2019 14:48:51 -0800
Subject: [6pack] VINs
In-Reply-To: <006b01d594e6$fa6eec20$ef4cc460$@uprichard.net>
References: <006b01d594e6$fa6eec20$ef4cc460$@uprichard.net>
Message-ID: <201911062248.xA6Mms3C021178@mail47c28.carrierzone.com>

Andrew, what flavor of TR is it?

My 74.5 TR6 which I bought new has factory OD and the number is CF+5 
digits+UO suffix (that's "Oh" the letter, and not zero)-- as expected.

Oddly enough, I have another 74.5 without OD (which had 2 DPOs) , and 
its VIN suffix is just the letter U, factory nameplate on the driver 
door post as expected.
However, somebody (not me) along the way had entered the letter V 
instead of the U, so the pink slip is wrong and my insurance cards 
are also wrong.
I didn't notice this myself 'til a couple of years ago.

There is a process in CA DMV to fix this, but it will require an 
appointment with one of their inspector guys.  When folks sell a car, 
they usually write some information
on the sales form by hand, and so that is likely how the U became 
"like" a V.  After that the DMV data entry person in Sacramento 
interpreted and typed it as a V, I  assume.

-Glenn/San Diego
74.5

At 01:13 PM 11/6/2019, you wrote:

>I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory 
>overdrive.  The old title appropriately ended "LO", but I was told 
>that "Os" and "Is" are no longer acceptable in titles.  So I had to 
>change the VIN (on the title) to "L0".  Then I had to call the 
>insurance company to explain the same story to them and have them 
>send me a proof of insurance with "L0".
>
>Anyone else come across this?  Maybe it has been going on for 
>years:  I have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.
>
>Andrew Uprichard
>Jackson, MI
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From grglmn at gmail.com  Wed Nov  6 16:52:25 2019
From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 17:52:25 -0600
Subject: [6pack] [TR] VINs
In-Reply-To: <000a01d594f6$5f46aa70$1dd3ff50$@flash.net>
References: <006b01d594e6$fa6eec20$ef4cc460$@uprichard.net>
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"My Morgan is one of hundreds with the same 17 digit VIN"

Must make for an interesting Carfax report

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 5:03 PM wbeech <wbeech at flash.net> wrote:

> Jonas,
>
> My Morgan is one of hundreds with the same 17 digit VIN.  Seems when they
> ordered the blank VIN plates there was a sample number inserted that got
> replicated.  Had a brief skirmish with the insurance company before getting
> a letter from MMC explaining it.  DMV used the 5 digit chassis number
> without any questions.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *
> jpaynepbr at cox.net
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 6, 2019 4:10 PM
> *To:* 'Andrew Uprichard' <auprichard at uprichard.net>; 'Triumphs' <
> triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] VINs
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Andrew,
>
>
>
> I have seen many mangled ?VIN Numbers? on vintage car titles.
>
>
>
> Apparently when DMV?s across the country became computerized, there was no
> standard on how to input 17 digits in on a title for a car with a 4 or 5
> digit serial number.
>
>
>
> The solution for my 1960 Morgan registered in Hawaii was to insert 13
> zeros in front of the 4 digit serial number.
>
>
>
> I had a 1964 AH 3000 with a CA title that was AHEALEYBJ then the body tag
> number
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jonas Payne
>
> PBR Consulting Services, LLC
>
> 702.882.6711
>
>
>
> *We have Moved!*
>
> Our new offices are locted at:
>
>
>
> 3191 E. Warm Springs Rd. #13
>
> Las Vegas, NV 89120
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Andrew
> Uprichard
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:13 PM
> *To:* 'Triumphs' <triumphs at autox.team.net>; 6pack at autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [TR] VINs
>
>
>
> I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive.
> The old title appropriately ended ?LO?, but I was told that ?Os? and ?Is?
> are no longer acceptable in titles.  So I had to change the VIN (on the
> title) to ?L0?.  Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the
> same story to them and have them send me a proof of insurance with ?L0?.
>
>
>
> Anyone else come across this?  Maybe it has been going on for years:  I
> have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
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From patrick.bloem at sbcglobal.net  Thu Nov  7 12:32:01 2019
From: patrick.bloem at sbcglobal.net (Patrick Bloem)
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:32:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 58, Issue 14
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References: <mailman.9.1573153202.12554.6pack@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <546009905.1205810.1573155121494@mail.yahoo.com>

 

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? 1. VINs (Andrew Uprichard)
? 2. Re: VINs (Glenn Rattmann)
? 3. Re: [TR] VINs (Greg Lemon)


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Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:13:02 -0500
From: "Andrew Uprichard" <auprichard at uprichard.net>
To: "'Triumphs'" <triumphs at autox.team.net>,??? <6pack at autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] VINs
Message-ID: <006b01d594e6$fa6eec20$ef4cc460$@uprichard.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive.? The
old title appropriately ended "LO", but I was told that "Os" and "Is" are no
longer acceptable in titles.? So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to
"L0".? Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to
them and have them send me a proof of insurance with "L0".

 

Anyone else come across this?? Maybe it has been going on for years:? I have
4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, MI

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I have had my TR250 CD5841LO since 1977 and this has always been the VIN number, granted the registration systems was not as automated as it is now. The only computer system I know that doesn't like O vs. 0 is AS400 which is 80 tech.? Same state as you Richard.
Patrick BloemEast Grand Rapids, MI  
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Nov  8 11:37:02 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 11:37:02 -0700
Subject: [6pack] [TR] 6-Pack Forum Gone
In-Reply-To: <1MTisb-1iKzD63hFt-00U52b@mrelay.perfora.net>
References: <1MTisb-1iKzD63hFt-00U52b@mrelay.perfora.net>
Message-ID: <cd6fd4f1-9421-f548-47d2-1382ff23a46f@bradakis.com>

On 11/8/19 5:49 AM, Bob Danielson wrote:
>
> I just read over on Facebook that the 6-Pack Forum has been hacked and 
> completely wiped out. Alan posted : Hacked. Everything deleted, 
> including what backups there were. No idea what the vector was.
>
> Forum database may be intact - but I won?t be able to look at it until 
> the weekend, at which time I?ll have to go and re-install all the B.B. 
> software.
>
> Bob
>
Ouch.? Team Net has certainly been the target of many attacks over the 
nearly thirty years it has been online.? But this does remind me I've 
been meaning to pick up a new back up drive to supplement those already 
on hand so I can stash all the server info in a safe place.? I hear 
there are now 4 - 5 terabyte units available, one of those should hold a 
few snapshots of current mailing list and website data.? Total disk 
space used by the server is about 500 gigs. And if the info is sitting 
on a shelf on a USB hard drive not connected to the network in any way 
whatsoever, no chance of getting destroyed by hackers.

And just in case you are wondering, the autox server has had 2,317 
failed root login attempts so far this month. So yes, it is a constant 
threat to the 39 currently active lists I host.

Your concerned, over paid and underworked list admin,

mjb.



From auprichard at uprichard.net  Fri Nov  8 16:16:05 2019
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (Andrew Uprichard)
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 18:16:05 -0500
Subject: [6pack] TR5 parts for sale
Message-ID: <002801d5968a$7f962fe0$7ec28fa0$@uprichard.net>

As some of you know, I recently bought the TR5 out of Charles Runyan's
estate.  The car was restored in 2013 with upgraded rods and pistons, but
had an issue with the rocker arm and was sidelined.  Charles had the engine
pulled as he intended to restore it to originality.  I have the original
block, original rods and standard pistons which I intend to use on the car.

 

So I have a set of Carillo rods and Weisco pistons (+40) with 1000 miles on
them.  I also have a set of lightened rods for what it is worth.  I have the
block which took the +40 pistons, a head (not a TR5 head, but a PI head with
the intake ports separated by 900 thou) and a crank (+20, +10 but in need of
a regrind).  I think this this was the original crank from the car which was
replaced in 2012.

 

If anyone is interested in any of these parts, please contact me off-line.
I also posted this on The Triumph Experience, as I heard there was an issue
with 6-pack.

 

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Tue Nov 12 09:06:14 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 10:06:14 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Interesting discovery
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dzHdam+7pfzYWZ6879QLQ5DzOhEKFDqQLkTuWpnWT_7HA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey friends,
   While setting up my '75 TR6, I discovered that the original throttle
stop adjustment allowed only about 70% of wide open throttle! The stop
appears to never have been adjusted and the linkage was and is, set as per
the manual. Is this an EPA bugger? Some DPO's tweak? Classic British
Leyland work quality? Hummm...
   Check your cars. You may find an impressive increase in performance at
the turn of a spanner!

Rick
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Fri Nov 15 15:17:28 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:17:28 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Emergency release
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dykHshDCJ50LjpZt5nFmRo0fn+YzvUXdUYKvrQqPGpWbQ@mail.gmail.com>

Emergency bonnet release installed today. Assembly continues...

Rick
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Fri Nov 15 15:24:15 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:24:15 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Floor pan
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dy-gAjUagUp-JEN7hfJ2__ZX0uVyTDxF6Y3o1FnbZFG9w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,
   I also began leveling the floor pan by cementing closed cell foam into
the structural depressions. Rubber vibration absorbing mat will cover this
for a smooth base under the new carpet.
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From yellowtr at adelphia.net  Fri Nov 15 16:55:25 2019
From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:55:25 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Emergency release
In-Reply-To: <CAOc+-dykHshDCJ50LjpZt5nFmRo0fn+YzvUXdUYKvrQqPGpWbQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOc+-dykHshDCJ50LjpZt5nFmRo0fn+YzvUXdUYKvrQqPGpWbQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3801f0f7-c592-c4de-ee16-7a86c52937ed@adelphia.net>

Installed them on the 4 and 6. I have never used the factory release 
cables once!

Bob

On 11/15/19 5:17 PM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack wrote:
> Emergency bonnet release installed today. Assembly continues...
>
> Rick
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Fri Nov 15 17:28:39 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:28:39 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Emergency release
In-Reply-To: <3801f0f7-c592-c4de-ee16-7a86c52937ed@adelphia.net>
References: <CAOc+-dykHshDCJ50LjpZt5nFmRo0fn+YzvUXdUYKvrQqPGpWbQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <3801f0f7-c592-c4de-ee16-7a86c52937ed@adelphia.net>
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dzispG07n6e1mBDpEsxZGsVxp8WTiAKMqKC4zymPtks8Q@mail.gmail.com>

As you might see Bob, my new cable is not yet attached.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 6:09 PM Bob via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Installed them on the 4 and 6. I have never used the factory release
> cables once!
>
> Bob
> On 11/15/19 5:17 PM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack wrote:
>
> Emergency bonnet release installed today. Assembly continues...
>
> Rick
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From im_sloane at hotmail.com  Fri Nov 15 23:11:53 2019
From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 06:11:53 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Emergency release
In-Reply-To: <CAOc+-dzispG07n6e1mBDpEsxZGsVxp8WTiAKMqKC4zymPtks8Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOc+-dykHshDCJ50LjpZt5nFmRo0fn+YzvUXdUYKvrQqPGpWbQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <3801f0f7-c592-c4de-ee16-7a86c52937ed@adelphia.net>,
 <CAOc+-dzispG07n6e1mBDpEsxZGsVxp8WTiAKMqKC4zymPtks8Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR18MB242939631B5D95B3E57255F68E730@MN2PR18MB2429.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>

Some people say the fancy (read store bought) release cable works better than the original. Way before these were available, I installed a simple piece of speaker wire and routed it thru a hole in the firewall. I figured it only had to work twice. One to test and two in an emergency, which hasn't happened yet.

Sloane
69-Six
72-Spit
________________________________
From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:28 AM
To: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
Cc: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Emergency release

As you might see Bob, my new cable is not yet attached.

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 6:09 PM Bob via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net<mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>> wrote:

Installed them on the 4 and 6. I have never used the factory release cables once!

Bob

On 11/15/19 5:17 PM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack wrote:
Emergency bonnet release installed today. Assembly continues...

Rick



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From taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 16 00:15:27 2019
From: taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com (Richard Taylor)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 23:15:27 -0800
Subject: [6pack] Emergency release
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR18MB242939631B5D95B3E57255F68E730@MN2PR18MB2429.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAOc+-dykHshDCJ50LjpZt5nFmRo0fn+YzvUXdUYKvrQqPGpWbQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <3801f0f7-c592-c4de-ee16-7a86c52937ed@adelphia.net>
 <CAOc+-dzispG07n6e1mBDpEsxZGsVxp8WTiAKMqKC4zymPtks8Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <MN2PR18MB242939631B5D95B3E57255F68E730@MN2PR18MB2429.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <6B21E07B-68A5-4979-BFCD-6CCB3989ACDF@yahoo.com>

I may have posted this before, but since the conversation has come up again, so is the photo. It works with the later six with the removable grill opening. A 3/8 inch hole is drilled in the firewall ( and then soft plugged so it can be easily knocked out from above) and a rod of one?s choosing can be used as shown. A screwdriver is used to lever the rod against the hood latch. I practiced this with the hood opened to be sure it would work, and later did it with the hood closed. Of course I?ve never had to use it ?for real', which is good too! 

Dick

> On Nov 15, 2019, at 10:11 PM, im sloane via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Some people say the fancy (read store bought) release cable works better than the original. Way before these were available, I installed a simple piece of speaker wire and routed it thru a hole in the firewall. I figured it only had to work twice. One to test and two in an emergency, which hasn't happened yet. 
> 
> Sloane 
> 69-Six
> 72-Spit
> From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:28 AM
> To: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
> Cc: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Emergency release
>  
> As you might see Bob, my new cable is not yet attached.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 6:09 PM Bob via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> Installed them on the 4 and 6. I have never used the factory release cables once!
> Bob
> On 11/15/19 5:17 PM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack wrote:
>> Emergency bonnet release installed today. Assembly continues...
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> 
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From taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 16 00:15:27 2019
From: taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com (Richard Taylor)
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 23:15:27 -0800
Subject: [6pack] Emergency release
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR18MB242939631B5D95B3E57255F68E730@MN2PR18MB2429.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAOc+-dykHshDCJ50LjpZt5nFmRo0fn+YzvUXdUYKvrQqPGpWbQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <3801f0f7-c592-c4de-ee16-7a86c52937ed@adelphia.net>
 <CAOc+-dzispG07n6e1mBDpEsxZGsVxp8WTiAKMqKC4zymPtks8Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <6B21E07B-68A5-4979-BFCD-6CCB3989ACDF@yahoo.com>

I may have posted this before, but since the conversation has come up again, so is the photo. It works with the later six with the removable grill opening. A 3/8 inch hole is drilled in the firewall ( and then soft plugged so it can be easily knocked out from above) and a rod of one?s choosing can be used as shown. A screwdriver is used to lever the rod against the hood latch. I practiced this with the hood opened to be sure it would work, and later did it with the hood closed. Of course I?ve never had to use it ?for real', which is good too! 

Dick

> On Nov 15, 2019, at 10:11 PM, im sloane via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Some people say the fancy (read store bought) release cable works better than the original. Way before these were available, I installed a simple piece of speaker wire and routed it thru a hole in the firewall. I figured it only had to work twice. One to test and two in an emergency, which hasn't happened yet. 
> 
> Sloane 
> 69-Six
> 72-Spit
> From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:28 AM
> To: Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
> Cc: 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Emergency release
>  
> As you might see Bob, my new cable is not yet attached.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 6:09 PM Bob via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net>> wrote:
> Installed them on the 4 and 6. I have never used the factory release cables once!
> Bob
> On 11/15/19 5:17 PM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack wrote:
>> Emergency bonnet release installed today. Assembly continues...
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
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From forzion7 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 16 05:14:54 2019
From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 07:14:54 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Emergency release
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Sloane ~

On my TR6, the 'emergency' release is so much easier to operate than the
circuitous stock release cable that I haven't bother using the stock cable
in years!

Dave

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019, 1:12 AM im sloane via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Some people say the fancy (read store bought) release cable works better
> than the original. Way before these were available, I installed a simple
> piece of speaker wire and routed it thru a hole in the firewall. I figured
> it only had to work twice. One to test and two in an emergency, which
> hasn't happened yet.
>
> Sloane
> 69-Six
> 72-Spit
> ------------------------------
> *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Richard Lindsay
> via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:28 AM
> *To:* Bob <yellowtr at adelphia.net>
> *Cc:* 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [6pack] Emergency release
>
> As you might see Bob, my new cable is not yet attached.
>
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 6:09 PM Bob via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Installed them on the 4 and 6. I have never used the factory release
> cables once!
>
> Bob
> On 11/15/19 5:17 PM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack wrote:
>
> Emergency bonnet release installed today. Assembly continues...
>
> Rick
>
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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Sat Nov 16 09:24:34 2019
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:24:34 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Emergency hood latch
Message-ID: <001001d59c9a$55d6ba10$01842e30$@optonline.net>

  I have one that looks just like the one sold by Macy's Garage
(https://macysgarage.com/parts-accessories.htm) except that I got it at a
VTR Convention MANY years ago.  Somebody (don't remember who) did an
impromptu tech session on it in the parking lot and when he was done, I
asked him if he had any with him.  He said yes and sold me one for $5. I
have NEVER used the stock cable since.  

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From anabil007 at comcast.net  Sat Nov 16 10:58:41 2019
From: anabil007 at comcast.net (anabil007)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 09:58:41 -0800
Subject: [6pack] Emergency hood latch
In-Reply-To: <001001d59c9a$55d6ba10$01842e30$@optonline.net>
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I don?t understand why you don?t use the stock pull, so much easier than bending over and using the ?emergency? release.  Yes I have the emergency ? release, still waiting to use it.

Bill Pugh
Wallace, CA
1970 TR6

> On Nov 16, 2019, at 8:24 AM, dctr6--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> ?
>   I have one that looks just like the one sold by Macy?s Garage (https://macysgarage.com/parts-accessories.htm) except that I got it at a VTR Convention MANY years ago.  Somebody (don?t remember who) did an impromptu tech session on it in the parking lot and when he was done, I asked him if he had any with him.  He said yes and sold me one for $5. I have NEVER used the stock cable since.  
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sat Nov 16 11:39:45 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:39:45 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Little details
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dwVMO_Qwe_NZwKKpdcOZYzgS76jHAo035iwagX=A93pNw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Gang,
   Today I painted and added a few more bits. Specifically, bits at the
engine room. First up, I installed the four little rubber bumpers
between the wings and bonnet.

http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191116_115527.jpg

   I also put the two new corner bumpers in but they are not yet adjusted.

http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191116_115619.jpg

   The bonnet is a bit misaligned and must be corrected before setting the
bumpers and orienting the latch. The bonnet's right side is a about 6mm too
far forward, introducing a twist in the alignment. The miss-position is
obvious at the headlight brow. At the rear, the bonnet it too close to the
right side and shows a bigger gap on the left side. I will loosen the
hinges up front and realign the bonnet...just not today.

Best regards,

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From im_sloane at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 16 22:45:30 2019
From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:45:30 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Emergency release
In-Reply-To: <6B21E07B-68A5-4979-BFCD-6CCB3989ACDF@yahoo.com>
References: <CAOc+-dykHshDCJ50LjpZt5nFmRo0fn+YzvUXdUYKvrQqPGpWbQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I've heard the old-school method for opening the hood in an emergency is with the car on a lift and the use of a broom stick from below-left. Anybody ever successfully done this procedure?

I've seen a car at a LBC event with the bulkhead under the latch so buggered up it looked like they came in with a crow-bar and blow torch. This is the type of thing I like to go down the row of TR6s and find a car with no emergency release, and enlighten it's owner.

Sloane
69-Six
72-Spit
________________________________
From: Richard Taylor <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 7:15 AM
To: im sloane <im_sloane at hotmail.com>
Cc: 6pack list <6pack at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Emergency release

I may have posted this before, but since the conversation has come up again, so is the photo. It works with the later six with the removable grill opening. A 3/8 inch hole is drilled in the firewall ( and then soft plugged so it can be easily knocked out from above) and a rod of one?s choosing can be used as shown. A screwdriver is used to lever the rod against the hood latch. I practiced this with the hood opened to be sure it would work, and later did it with the hood closed. Of course I?ve never had to use it ?for real', which is good too!

Dick
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From rgperry at earthlink.net  Sun Nov 17 04:49:47 2019
From: rgperry at earthlink.net (Robert Perry)
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2019 05:49:47 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: [6pack] Emergency release
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From dctr6 at optonline.net  Mon Nov 18 07:49:57 2019
From: dctr6 at optonline.net (dctr6 at optonline.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 09:49:57 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Emergency hood latch
In-Reply-To: <EC7E515A-557C-4E39-B323-4E156367AD0E@comcast.net>
References: <001001d59c9a$55d6ba10$01842e30$@optonline.net>
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The emergency release on my car can be reached from the driver?s seat or from outside the car on the passenger side. It works infinitely easier that the stock one ? I am able to open the hood with one finger. The stock pull, now over 43 years old, is stiff and the cable has stretched over time. Why continue to use it until it breaks? Then I?ll HAVE to replace it which I don?t have to do now. 

Dennis  

 

From: anabil007 <anabil007 at comcast.net> 
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 12:59 PM
To: dctr6 at optonline.net
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Emergency hood latch

 

I don?t understand why you don?t use the stock pull, so much easier than bending over and using the ?emergency? release.  Yes I have the emergency ? release, still waiting to use it.

Bill Pugh

Wallace, CA

1970 TR6





On Nov 16, 2019, at 8:24 AM, dctr6--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net <mailto:6pack at autox.team.net> > wrote:

?

  I have one that looks just like the one sold by Macy?s Garage (https://macysgarage.com/parts-accessories.htm) except that I got it at a VTR Convention MANY years ago.  Somebody (don?t remember who) did an impromptu tech session on it in the parking lot and when he was done, I asked him if he had any with him.  He said yes and sold me one for $5. I have NEVER used the stock cable since.  

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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Tue Nov 19 03:26:38 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 04:26:38 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Reassembly, for those who might be interested
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dxj0BX7D0SmyBbKJ529Khq-WYLC9idoBEavWWK_WHYyNQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Friends,
   A beautiful day welcomed me this morning. Cool and with clear blue
skies. Perfect spanner twisting weather.
   What follows is just an ongoing story of the reassembly of my TR6. It's
not intended to be a guide or tutorial. Rather, these words and pictures
are shared just for fun.

   After a quick breakfast I drove the Land Rover out to the shop and set
about aligning the TR6 bonnet. That all went as planned. I had to trim one
of the new rubber side bumpers just a bit. The Dremel tool easily reshaped
the part. The bonnet now closes beautifully.
   I next remounted the windscreen wiper spindles. The washer jets are
integral to the mounts so that job was addressed as part of the reassembly.
New washer hose was connected to the jets, threaded through the firewall
and on to the pump/reservoir. With that job completed I closed the plenum
with the refinished plenum grate.

http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191118_155901.jpg

   As one can see in that picture, taken later, the next step was
installing the dash pad. The large black bolts were temporarily inserted
for alignment. The leading edge of the pad sits under the windscreen frame
and the trailing edge is tucked between the body and the metal fascia.
Bolts from the body extend down through the pad's trailing edge, pinching
it between these two panels, securing it firmly. The pad is further held in
alignment by the defroster vents. In this picture one can see the passenger
side vent, now in place. Below the panel is a defroster duct which will
eventually connect to a hose.

http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191118_133200.jpg

   This is about where work ended for today. The dash pad is in and one
defroster vent is installed. What isn't shown is the heater box. I had
previously rebuilt that massive and heavy beast. The blower now works
perfectly. The whole assembly is now bolted to the underside of the dash,
located below and just rear of the plenum. That work needed to be done
before anything more could be installed under the dash. The coolant hoses
are yet to be installed.

http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191118_132920.jpg

   With both arms sore, hands roughed up, and a bit out of sorts, thanks to
that unwieldy heater box, I stopped the precision work and rested a bit.
Before heading back to the house, I mounted the radio antenna. I have no
immediate plans to add a radio but...there was this hole in the wing...

 http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191118_122927.jpg

   And that concluded this update.

Rick
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From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Nov 19 15:11:20 2019
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2019 16:11:20 -0600
Subject: [6pack] total wild guess
Message-ID: <000f01d59f26$467e65c0$d37b3140$@ranteer.com>

my son (he's 30) has decided we need to replace the front turn signal
lenses/parking lights on the 72 TR6 with clear ones.  Those were only made
for the Italian market.

 

Anyone know of a source?  Anyone know Italian?  Anyone in Italy?

 

Dave N

72 TR6

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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Wed Nov 20 11:51:09 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:51:09 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Dash and fascia trial fitting
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dySbu8S+n8ATFJNLEDU0c7GjOhShCYauxTVPQy4N4qhqQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Friends,
   Today I remounted my '75 TR6's heater box, correcting an alignment
problem. Everything is now back as it should be. I also installed the
driver side windscreen defroster vent and plumbed it to the heater. The new
hose fit properly. Its stiff so preforming to the correct shape let it go
in easily. I clamped the ends, as if they could move, with plastic cable
ties pulled quite tight, rather than with metal hose clamps.
  I next installed the rest of the dash pads, the lower bits. One of the
parts is new and has yet to be trimmed on the upper right. With those bits
in I could trial-fit the wood fascia. I now know where edges must be
trimmed and other parts shifted one way or the other for the optimal fit.
See attached photos.

Rick
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From davgil at aol.com  Fri Nov 22 05:30:16 2019
From: davgil at aol.com (David Gill)
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2019 03:30:16 -0900
Subject: [6pack] Fw: Fw: (4)
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sun Nov 24 11:42:40 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 12:42:40 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Heater plumbing
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dxtN3uWTLzkW_H3-y9YSPk2bzYreUf96ZePj4USszrYLg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Friends,
   Just a couple of pictures to share today.
   Here are the new hoses just installed between the bulkhead and the
restored heater.

http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191124_113925.jpg

   And with the coolant plumbed, the right side defroster vent hose went in
completing the defroster ducting.

http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191124_110411.jpg

   The Gorilla Tape covers a hole in the firewall, left behind from the
PO's A/C installation. There is tape on both sides of the firewall.
Eventually, I will make a couple of small aluminum plates, one for either
side, and install them with lots of sealant.

Rick
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sun Nov 24 17:06:46 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2019 18:06:46 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Assembly continues
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dy3aD_uJKMD2Co92eowpqUWrfVL3FGVsOE1CW4UHyrDmg@mail.gmail.com>

   This afternoon, my Friends, I finished the wooden fascia and installed
it on the sub-fascia. It now fits nicely, if a bit imperfectly.
Fortunately, any misalignment, thanks to the repairs made to the wood, is
well hidden.
   Attached is a picture of the driver's side of the fascia. The speedo,
master light switch, hazard switch, and temperature gauge are now
installed. The warning lights and instrument illumination lamp holders are
now fitted with LED lamps.
   That's as far as I got today. Tomorrow we have the grandkids so I expect
no TR6 progress. More later...

Rick
PS: This is a temporary steering wheel from my old GT6 project. The TR6
wheel is restored and awaiting installation.
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From davgil at aol.com  Mon Nov 25 04:55:09 2019
From: davgil at aol.com (David Gill)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 01:55:09 -1000
Subject: [6pack] New mail [0]
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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Nov 25 07:05:30 2019
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 07:05:30 -0700
Subject: [6pack] New mail [0]
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Sorry, despite some of my best efforts, spam and bad stuff still slip 
through the filters.

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From anabil007 at comcast.net  Mon Nov 25 09:48:42 2019
From: anabil007 at comcast.net (William Pugh)
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2019 08:48:42 -0800
Subject: [6pack] Assembly continues
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Very nice ? now that you have the opportunity you should think about changing positions for the gauges.  Not a Concours idea, but if you put the Oil Pressure, and Temp gauges near the glove box you will find them much easier to see while driving, I did it, works great.

My theory is the Factory design was for Right Hand Drive, but our cars are mostly Left Hand Drive. I just got fed up with having to peer around the steering wheel to check most vital gauges.

> On Nov 24, 2019, at 4:06 PM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
>    This afternoon, my Friends, I finished the wooden fascia and installed it on the sub-fascia. It now fits nicely, if a bit imperfectly. Fortunately, any misalignment, thanks to the repairs made to the wood, is well hidden.
>    Attached is a picture of the driver's side of the fascia. The speedo, master light switch, hazard switch, and temperature gauge are now installed. The warning lights and instrument illumination lamp holders are now fitted with LED lamps. 
>    That's as far as I got today. Tomorrow we have the grandkids so I expect no TR6 progress. More later...
> 
> 

Bill Pugh
1970  TR6
?Rosey"

Life is too short
to drive Boring Cars




From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sat Nov 30 05:59:09 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 06:59:09 -0600
Subject: [6pack] OT time away
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dwQ5YM_CY6HqhcEoqaEZEs4M8unWcizOTWYAnd0B2q_LA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello friends,
   American Thanksgiving has passed and Black Friday is over. I guess we're
now on the countdown to Christmas...and the other holidays, whose start
dates I don't know. No matter. T'is a season to be kind to one another.

   Nancy and I finish up our little holiday get-away this morning.
Fredericksburg, Texas is fun, if expensive. No car work today since were
driving for 4-1/2 hours then putting the house back to normal. Perhaps
tomorrow morning, then watching the last F1 race of the 2019 season.

   I received tracking information that two TR6 parts shipments arrived
while we were away. One is heater control cables; air control and coolant
flow through the core. The other shipment an inexpensive shaft mount radio.
No fancy tunes needed in a roaring TR6...and this one has an Ansa exhaust.

   So what's up with you? Doing anything fun? Car put away for the winter
or fun driving weather, if in the South like me?

Rick
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From im_sloane at hotmail.com  Sat Nov 30 12:21:07 2019
From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 19:21:07 +0000
Subject: [6pack] OT time away
In-Reply-To: <CAOc+-dwQ5YM_CY6HqhcEoqaEZEs4M8unWcizOTWYAnd0B2q_LA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey Rick,
I know exhaust aficionados don't care, but I find a great sounding sound system that you can actually hear with the top down really adds to the driving experience, even if turned off from time to time. Just curious, what type of shaft radio did you find?  If it has audio-out ports that can feed a medium power amp, you may really enjoy it more. We fit a Blaupunkt 60watt amp to my brother's TR6. It fit nicely on the sloped firewall directly above the passenger's toes. Good surface mount speakers are also difficult to come by. I have Pioneer TS-X150s in my Spitfire and have been very happy with them.  My TR6 already had speaker holes in the rear panel thanks to DPO.

Sloane :)

from: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:59 PM
To: TR6 Group <6pack at autox.team.net>
Subject: [6pack] OT time away

Hello friends,
   American Thanksgiving has passed and Black Friday is over.

   So what's up with you? Doing anything fun? Car put away for the winter or fun driving weather, if in the South like me?

Rick
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From dave1massey at cs.com  Sat Nov 30 13:38:43 2019
From: dave1massey at cs.com (DAVID MASSEY)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 20:38:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] OT time away
References: <1603478503.4677784.1575146323332.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1603478503.4677784.1575146323332@mail.yahoo.com>

 A nice sounding, in your face exhaust is great fun when driving the back roads running through the gears but on the interstate driving to a far away location, say, VTR, the constant drone hour after hour gets old really quickly.? I had the Falcon sports exhaust which sounds great when winding out in first gear just gets annoying on the freeway.? But, after 14 hours to Dripping Springs and another 16 hours back, it came off.? I just installed a Tourist Trophy stock system that was awarded to me for being the fasted stock TR6 at the autocross (Thank you Mr. Bob Goldman) which will make the car much more livable on the long cruises.
Now for more tunes.
 
Dave 

 
 
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Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 1:21 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] OT time away

#yiv9672709169 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}Hey Rick,I know exhaust aficionados don't care, but I find a great sounding sound system that you can actually hear with the top down really adds to the driving experience, even if turned off from time to time. Just curious, what type of shaft radio did you find?? If it has audio-out ports that can feed a medium power amp, you may really enjoy it more. We fit a Blaupunkt 60watt amp to my brother's TR6. It fit nicely on the sloped firewall directly above the passenger's toes. Good surface mount speakers are also difficult to come by. I have Pioneer TS-X150s in my Spitfire and have been very happy with them.? My TR6 already had speaker holes in the rear panel thanks?to DPO.?
Sloane :)
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Subject: [6pack] OT time away?Hello friends,? ?American Thanksgiving has passed and Black Friday is over.?
? ?So what's up with you? Doing anything fun? Car put away for the winter or fun driving weather, if in the South like me?
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sat Nov 30 14:48:27 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 15:48:27 -0600
Subject: [6pack] OT time away
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Just a cheap no-name unit from Amazon.

I'm kinda the other way around. When I listen to music I want nothing but
the music.

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 1:21 PM im sloane via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hey Rick,
> I know exhaust aficionados don't care, but I find a great sounding sound
> system that you can actually hear with the top down really adds to the
> driving experience, even if turned off from time to time. Just curious,
> what type of shaft radio did you find?  If it has audio-out ports that can
> feed a medium power amp, you may really enjoy it more. We fit a Blaupunkt
> 60watt amp to my brother's TR6. It fit nicely on the sloped firewall
> directly above the passenger's toes. Good surface mount speakers are also
> difficult to come by. I have Pioneer TS-X150s in my Spitfire and have been
> very happy with them.  My TR6 already had speaker holes in the rear panel
> thanks to DPO.
>
> Sloane :)
>
> *from:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Richard Lindsay
> via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:59 PM
> *To:* TR6 Group <6pack at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [6pack] OT time away
>
> Hello friends,
>    American Thanksgiving has passed and Black Friday is over.
>
>    So what's up with you? Doing anything fun? Car put away for the winter
> or fun driving weather, if in the South like me?
>
> Rick
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sat Nov 30 14:50:38 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 15:50:38 -0600
Subject: [6pack] OT time away
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So true about the exhaust. My 308 and Cayman are just too loud for long
drives. The TR6 will be just for playing around. Interstates get the
Highlander. :-o

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 2:39 PM DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> A nice sounding, in your face exhaust is great fun when driving the back
> roads running through the gears but on the interstate driving to a far away
> location, say, VTR, the constant drone hour after hour gets old really
> quickly.  I had the Falcon sports exhaust which sounds great when winding
> out in first gear just gets annoying on the freeway.  But, after 14 hours
> to Dripping Springs and another 16 hours back, it came off.  I just
> installed a Tourist Trophy stock system that was awarded to me for being
> the fasted stock TR6 at the autocross (Thank you Mr. Bob Goldman) which
> will make the car much more livable on the long cruises.
>
> Now for more tunes.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: im sloane via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> To: TR6 Group <6pack at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, Nov 30, 2019 1:21 pm
> Subject: Re: [6pack] OT time away
>
> Hey Rick,
> I know exhaust aficionados don't care, but I find a great sounding sound
> system that you can actually hear with the top down really adds to the
> driving experience, even if turned off from time to time. Just curious,
> what type of shaft radio did you find?  If it has audio-out ports that can
> feed a medium power amp, you may really enjoy it more. We fit a Blaupunkt
> 60watt amp to my brother's TR6. It fit nicely on the sloped firewall
> directly above the passenger's toes. Good surface mount speakers are also
> difficult to come by. I have Pioneer TS-X150s in my Spitfire and have been
> very happy with them.  My TR6 already had speaker holes in the rear panel
> thanks to DPO.
>
> Sloane :)
>
> *from:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Richard Lindsay
> via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2019 12:59 PM
> *To:* TR6 Group <6pack at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [6pack] OT time away
>
> Hello friends,
>    American Thanksgiving has passed and Black Friday is over.
>
>    So what's up with you? Doing anything fun? Car put away for the winter
> or fun driving weather, if in the South like me?
>
> Rick
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