From richardolindsay at gmail.com Tue Dec 3 06:35:43 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 07:35:43 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Interior coming together Message-ID: Hello friends, I only got about 50% of my goals met yesterday. So today, I am setting half as many! Let's see if that works - or if only 50% of those tasks get done! Yesterday, while waiting for the garage door repair guys - who arrived at my shop two hours late - I made good progress on the '75 TR6. Here's how the work progressed. I wired the courtesy lights and repaired a broken ground (earth) on one gauge light. I had neglected to include the ground's ring connector on the gauge mounting stud. The LED courtesy lights, which are non-standard - will mount high up on the kick panels and illuminate the footwells. They will be switched by the door jam switches or manually by the switch below the radio. More on that later. Yesterday I just pulled in the wires. I next reshaped the bonnet to correct a warp caused by ages of sitting with the bonnet open, supported by only one bonnet stay. This reshaping is also called 'bending', but that's such a harsh word. Still, the bonnet now closes beautifully straight with equal seam gaps. At the risk of starting yet another sentence with ' I '...I next started covering the fiberboard transmission cover with aluminum backed rubber heat and acoustic insulation. That process went very well and I am pleased. I'll share a work-in-progress picture later today. With most of the easy-to-reach transmission insulation in I stopped and worked on the passenger side floor pan. The floors are getting a different product, but with a similar main goal: insulation. The Al backed rubber conforms to the underlying surface (mostly) whereas the 3/16" rubber foam I am using on the floors 'smooths' the surface for a nicer overlying carpet appearance. This closed cell foam is used in place of a conventional carpet pad. Today I hope to finish applying the transmission cover insulation and maybe cut the first pieces of carpet to cover that bit. Anyone who has made custom carpets will knows that covering complex curves (surfaces that curve in two dimensions) is really difficult. Today I will see if I can do that acceptably well with this carpet product or if I will have to include a seam with edge binding (or a glued butt joint with Gorilla tape on the back). Read: experimentation. The kick panels (side bits down near one's ballet slippers) are carpeted rather than covered with vinyl upholstery. I need to cut templates from poster board then use them to cut thin substrate to support the carpet. This work is all easy since the panels are flat, but it is time consuming. All this said, the work sounds long and laborious, and it is, but it is also very rewarding as it comes together. I won't get too far today because I am picky with the fit and finish, but I hope to make a good start. Pictures to follow. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Tue Dec 3 16:01:31 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 17:01:31 -0600 Subject: [6pack] More 6 work Message-ID: Hello friends, Yesterday and today were strong progress days at the shop. I applied 3mm thick aluminum faced rubber to the TR6's fiberboard gearbox cover, completing it today. The two layer insulation will absorb noise and heat. The passenger floor had a closed cell foam carpet pad installed, when this picture was taken. Here's how it looks going in. http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191203_140900.jpg Here's another look. The blue rectangle resting on the forward bulkhead is just an errant piece of plastic film from the adhesive backing. http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191203_140817.jpg Now with the driver's seat removed, the pan cleaned, and the driver's side carpet pad installed, here's how the floor looked with the first bits of carpet installed, if not glued down. The vertical panel and radio mount is in place holding the carpet in place before I apply the cement. The screwdriver is through one of the lower mounting holes, just for alignment.The hole below the radio hole is for the courtesy light switch. http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191203_122126.jpg Here's another look. The new shift knob is installed above the newly positioned shifter gaiter. http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191203_141015.jpg The vertical panel attaches at the top with two bolts. In the picture one can see the bolts. When attached permanently, the bolts enter from the back and are secured on the front either by hex nuts with black covers (correct) or acorn nuts (easier). Left over rubber and aluminum insulation will be used under the seats and foam pad is already installed on the rear deck and behind the seats. The tunnel cover was repaired earlier. Like the gearbox cover, it too is constructed from formed fiberboard but it had been damaged, probably by someone stepping on it. After reshaping, it was upholstered with carpet and an edge binding was applied on the front edge. The new radio arrived today. Its a shaft mount unit and is very simple. Here's how it looks (seller's photos) ready to install. http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/Radio_01.jpg And here's a similar look with the front bezel in place. The unit may be installed as a DIN size or in this case, via shaft mount. As I wrote above, the radio is simple and all that is needed in the TR6. An auxiliary input jack is nice for connection to a phone. Better than cassettes anyway...but I do like the period look of a cassette deck! http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/Radio_02.jpg That's it for today. Tomorrow, I hope to cement down the tunnel carpet and cut the new pieces. Or I may spend my time installing the radio and finishing the wiring. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Wed Dec 4 12:58:31 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2019 13:58:31 -0600 Subject: [6pack] More progress Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Sat Dec 7 05:04:09 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2019 06:04:09 -0600 Subject: [6pack] '75 TR6 project update Message-ID: Hello friends, Every car that I have restored, and there have been many, I have done on a tight budget. Anyone with a fat wallet can put a car back to as-new condition. My goal is, and has always been, to do the best job possible with my labor, instead of money. That means not only using my hard-earned skills but also by using my brain. By that last bit I mean, doing all I can or should do and choosing to buy where there's a better solution. For example... I am making the carpets for the TR6 using cut pile automotive carpet left over from a friend's Volvo 1800ES. Its a good color for the TR6 and I had a lot left over. That said, there are all but no scraps left now! Used it all! The panels and seat upholstery are new. I bought the kits back a bit ago when Moss Motors was having a big deep discount sale. I also bought new seat foam, bottoms and backs. A comfortable ride starts at the seat! New walnut wood fascias are available for about $400 but I chose a different route. I cemented the original plywood back together, returning it's structural integrity. The walnut veneer was peeling off so I removed any stubborn bits down to the substrate. I bought a length of zebra maple veneer for about $30, delivered, and glued it on to the substrate. Gorilla Glue for Wood was used. I then very carefully cut out the openings with a sanding drum in the Dremel tool. That was a long and artful process because the gauge holes are not only recessed but also, they need to be perfectly round circles. Any errors in the light color wood would be glaring against the black-rimmed gauges. Paint, as you know, was done affordably too. I am a repeat customer at the Tomball, Texas MAACO and get treated well there. The TR6 is the 5th car I have had them paint. In exchange for my loyalty, the manager provides their top-of-the-line package to me at the manager's-special price. My little 6 got body work (rust on the lip of the boot lid, luggage carrier holes filled, hail dents on the bonnet flattened, and general prep), sealant, primer, finish sanding, base coat and three layers of clear coat. All for $1500!!! I did not opt for color sanding and buffing like they did on the Volvo's bonnet and front wings. That work can be done later, after the paint is harder, if desired. The car has been in my shop for weeks now as I work on reassembly. During that time the paint has gotten dirty and has picked up spray paint dust from painting other parts. As a test the other day, I 'clayed' a front wing and found that the result is clear of all contaminants, glassy smooth, and better than anything that British-Leyland ever put on a Triumph! The new convertible top (head) is in the box awaiting completion of everything else. It too was purchased when Moss had a deeply discounted sale. The top is black vinyl and will look nice, especially since the rest of the exterior trim is black (except door handles and lock barrels). The wheels are period correct if not original. A friend refinished them in Porsche Wheel Silver powder coat. Metal valve stems are installed and new tires are mounted. There is one remaining mechanical repair needed. Yes, there is still tuning to do but that's regular maintenance with a Triumph or MG. The repair needed is to replace the dust boots on the steering rack. I'm waiting to see if the steering is 'tight' or a bit vague, before replacing the boots. If the rack has to come out, I will do the boots then. If not, they can be replaced *in situ* at any time. The suspension, dampers and brakes, front and rear rear, are rebuilt with new bushings, bearings, calipers, pads, shoes, etc.. That bit is already as-new. So my TR6 'driver' is going to be really pretty, and it already runs and handles great! There is light at the end of this tunnel. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mohawktriumphs at aol.com Tue Dec 10 21:01:05 2019 From: mohawktriumphs at aol.com (mohawktriumphs) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 23:01:05 -0500 Subject: [6pack] '75 TR6 project update References: Message-ID: Rick, Keep up the good work ! It is inspiring to us dolts who have TR's waiting for us ... 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Sent from my ASUS Pad Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.96 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >6pack at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mohawktriumphs at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Wed Dec 11 06:00:12 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 07:00:12 -0600 Subject: [6pack] '75 TR6 project update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: wrote: > Rick, > Keep up the good work ! It is inspiring to us dolts who have > TR's waiting for us ... > Thank you, My long-winded post was just a brain dump, having awakened far too early and written while pondering my own restoration motives. That was a day or two ago. Here is the plan for today. You know that little triangle-shaped brace at the rear of a TR6's door opening? It's an upholstered piece of sheetmetal covered on the edge and inside first by a piece of folded heavy card stock, then vinyl. Well, recovering those little buggers was the last restoration step that I addressed. That was a few days ago. Today, I hope to complete that job. The upholstery kit includes the bulk vinyl for these braces, as well as the cards. Before leaving my shop last time, I cemented the vinyl to the outside faces of the triangles. I used carpet cement rather than contact cement so the vinyl's position could be adjust for a precise fit. The card stock provided another problem. Although the card is pre-cut and scored at the bend point between edge and side, the stock is so stiff that it is really difficult to bend to the required 90? angle! I first thought of using pliers to bend the edge section over but decided that damage was more likely than precision. So today, I am going to bring the cards home from the shop and reshape them in my garage where I have to proper tools. Specifically, a big vice and a couple of straight boards. I'll clamp the thin edge - its only about 3/4" (2cm) wide - between two boards in the vice with the scored seam just above the joint. I will then fold the card over to 90? while lightly tapping the seam with a hammer. Doing so will reshape the card leaving it with the proper shape. It can then be lightly cemented to the triangular brace and further held in alignment by the upholstery vinyl. That's obviously a multi-step process done at home and at my shop. So before the reshaping bit I will do other work. Specifically, applying carpet to the sills. Earlier I had cut all the carpet pieces, including the long narrow sill carpets. And here I must insert an aside. My family immigrated to America from Scotland so being frugal - okay, cheap and tight-fisted - is in my DNA. The phrase 'Scot free' was not invented without reason! Anyway, the carpet I am using in my TR6 is a left-over from restoring another car, specifically a '73 Volvo 1800ES. Because the carpet available was a remnant and a bit irregularly shaped, I had to first guarantee that I could cut all the pieces necessary and in the right orientation (carpet has a 'grain', for lack if a better term). That's why layout and all cutting was done before installing any pieces was done. I had just barely enough stock to do the job! Without intending an endorsement and only because a couple of you have asked, here is where I buy my automobile carpet. https://www.automotiveinteriors.com/carpet-yardage-and-vinyl-for-cars-trucks-suvs-s/17303.htm And just to complete the references, I also use Instabind to form a neat edge, where needed. No, it's not a high end solution but neither is it extremely costly. Here's the link. https://www.bondproducts.com Okay, back on track. Today I hope to install the carpet on the sills. Did I already say that? Anyway, I will use contact cement there since the surface is curved. I may go back and apply a little carpet cement under the lower edge, just to make sure it doesn't pull loose. The upper edge is captured under the weather strip molding so it can't go anywhere. If that job goes without a major hitch, I may also cement down the lower edges of the tunnel carpet. I lightly attached it to the insulation on the cover, just to guarantee its position. The final step, now that the upper bits are secure, will be to trim and lightly cement the carpet's lower edge where it meets the floor pan. I haven't yet decided whether to edge bind the floor carpets. I guess the better plan will be to place those carpet bits in the car and see if binding is needed. If so, I have an ample supply of Instabind to do the job. I also have new floor mats to go in over the carpet. I'll stop now because I have worn the letters off of my keyboard keys. Thanks for reading this far. Pictures to follow a bit later. Rick > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Thu Dec 12 12:45:10 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 13:45:10 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Mats Message-ID: Hey Gang, It's not my usual practice to recommend vendors. Products, yes. Vendor's no. But in this case I make an exception. The front floor mats that I just received from American Floor Mats fit better than any mat I have ever seen! They just align perfectly! https://www.americanfloormats.com Here's how one looks, test fitted - if a poor picture. http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191211_101810.jpg Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mohawktriumphs at aol.com Thu Dec 12 17:21:50 2019 From: mohawktriumphs at aol.com (mohawktriumphs) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 19:21:50 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Mats References: <1vomqvhca825ckcueie01yp6.1576196510049.ref@email.android.com> Message-ID: <1vomqvhca825ckcueie01yp6.1576196510049@email.android.com> Are the mats over oem carpet or instead of ? Sent from my ASUS Pad Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.96 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >6pack at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mohawktriumphs at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mohawktriumphs at aol.com Thu Dec 12 17:21:50 2019 From: mohawktriumphs at aol.com (mohawktriumphs) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 19:21:50 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Mats References: <1vomqvhca825ckcueie01yp6.1576196510049.ref@email.android.com> Message-ID: <1vomqvhca825ckcueie01yp6.1576196510049@email.android.com> Are the mats over oem carpet or instead of ? Sent from my ASUS Pad Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.96 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >6pack at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mohawktriumphs at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Thu Dec 12 19:00:13 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 20:00:13 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Mats In-Reply-To: <1vomqvhca825ckcueie01yp6.1576196510049@email.android.com> References: <1vomqvhca825ckcueie01yp6.1576196510049.ref@email.android.com> <1vomqvhca825ckcueie01yp6.1576196510049@email.android.com> Message-ID: In my car, they will be over the OEM carpet; eg. Mat over carpet. But in the picture (link) that I posted, the new mat is just trial-fitted over the carpet pad. The floor carpet is not yet installed. Hope this helps. FWIW, I use their better quality cut pile mats in my, because they're a little b.c. thicker and stiffer. That said, I used rubber mats in the Volvo 1800ES, and the burber(sp?) style in the BMW 2002tii. Both of those cars are now gone. On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 6:21 PM mohawktriumphs wrote: > Are the mats over oem carpet or instead of ? > > > > Sent from my ASUS Pad > > Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Hey Gang, > It's not my usual practice to recommend vendors. Products, yes. > Vendor's no. But in this case I make an exception. > The front floor mats that I just received from American Floor Mats fit > better than any mat I have ever seen! They just align perfectly! > > https://www.americanfloormats.com > > Here's how one looks, test fitted - if a poor picture. > > http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191211_101810.jpg > > Rick > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Fri Dec 13 06:19:54 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 07:19:54 -0600 Subject: [6pack] More work done today Message-ID: Hey friends, Today I head back to my shop to work on the TR6. Its 'glue carpet to the sills day'. And with that glue drying, I will lay in the floor carpets and stick the edges in place with the industrial Velcro that I bought (following Sloane's sage advice about removability). With the sills covered I can also install the kick panels. I carpeted them when last working at the shop. I ended up using the original heavy fiberboard substrate that was in the car. When I trial fitted the panels I realized that the shape deformations were actually a good thing. They were caused by the underlying harness, etc.. By reusing those cards, the panels will not be stressed and trying to pull free, just to be flat again. Good or bad plan, that's what I have chosen to do. I will also complete the upholstery on the triangular braces at the rear of the door openings. They need to be finished before the sill carpet is fitted. To form the shape of the triangles, Moss included heavy fiberboard pieces for the edges and insides of the triangles. The edge of the fiberboard pieces had to be folded over 90? to create the proper edge geometry. And although scored by their maker, the fold was impossible by hand. I had to clamp the edge in the vice and progressively hammer the fiberboard to the 90? shape! Both pieces are now the right shape and will be installed without cement between the cards and the car, as per original, with the upholstery vinyl holding them in place. I guess that scheme was to make the original pieces easy to remove without leaving debris on the metal triangle beneath. Perhaps I am giving Triumph / British Leyland far to much insightful credit?! If I get all of this work done, I have to decide whether to next carpet the rear parcel shelf and add the upholstery panels, or go to work on the seats. I probably should switch emphasis to the seats, driver's side first, so I can once again, safely move the car. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Sat Dec 14 05:58:17 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 06:58:17 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Useless post Message-ID: Hey friends, Here's yet another TR6 project update. It's boring but short. (Work time has been limited.) The lower edges of the sill carpets are now glued in. I didn't use contact cement. Rather, I used flexible carpet cement. I did that work a day ago so the lower edge would be firmly attached when I rolled the edge up and over the radius to and including the molding lip. I also trial fitted the floor carpet on the driver's side. The fit is excellent. I still need to trim the pad from beneath the radio panel attachment feet. The fit is too tight for pad AND carpet, but with the pad out, the carpet will slip under and the bolts will go right in. I also finished the upholstery on the triangular braces at the rear of the door openings. They look great. I really look forward to seeing the carpet and upholstery after the rubber door molding goes on. Adjusting the door for alignment and closing ease, not so much. Okay, okay, I like that bit too. Happy Saturday, Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This morning I used my plastic upholstery trim tools and removed the bits up the windscreen sides and those at the top of the B pillar. With those out, the old droopy headliner lifted out the driver's door without argument! Easy peasy. Tomorrow I will brush away the foam remains of the old headliner and maybe even attach the new cloth. Pictures to follow if I get that far. Also this morning I cemented down the hidden edges of the rear wheel arch upholstery. To fit those pieces over the padded arches, I needed to secure the hidden edges in order to pull the upholstery snugly over the complex curves of the arches. See attached picture. The lower edge of the upholstery will get cemented to the rear deck and hidden by the deck carpet. The sides will receive upholstery cards hiding the just cemented arch upholstery. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I also need to learn if Kelum's mom has other plans today. Yesterday I reported that the headliner came out of the Nissan pickup easily and without drama. This morning I hope to brush away any remaining foam bits on the substrate (another good word) and cement the new foam backed fabric in place. If I get that far I can reinstall the headliner, but I first have to be make sure that the cement is well and truly dried. Otherwise, any finger pressure on the fabric may collapse the foam backing and cause it to stick that way. I also reported yesterday that I have begun attaching the upholstery on the TR6's rear wheel arches. Today I will test the cement job by gently pulling the formed upholstery vinyl down over the archs for a smooth fit. If all goes well there, I will cement the bottom edge to the body and leave the glue to dry. Then afterward, say another 24 hours, I can cement down all the remaining edges and cut the holes for the seat belt's shoulder harness mounting hardware. All of this work on the TR6's interior is pretty routine, if sometimes laborious. The next real challenge will be rebuilding the seats. I say 'rebuilding' rather than reupholstering because the internal frames have to be restored before new foam and upholstery can go on. Attached are pictures of the driver's seat with the old upholstery split away. It should be obvious that not only is the support mechanism damaged but also, the metal frame is rusted quite badly. No pivot joints now move. Fortunately, the rust damage is mostly surface rust and not so bad that the frames can't be cleaned, repainted and the reused. Yep, lots of work to do there! Happy, happy, Rick On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:12 PM Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hello friends, > I made a little progress today on both the TR6 and the Nissan pickup. > Both are improving in baby steps. Here are those from steps from today. > The pickup is so easy to repair. This morning I used my plastic > upholstery trim tools and removed the bits up the windscreen sides and > those at the top of the B pillar. With those out, the old droopy headliner > lifted out the driver's door without argument! Easy peasy. > Tomorrow I will brush away the foam remains of the old headliner and > maybe even attach the new cloth. Pictures to follow if I get that far. > Also this morning I cemented down the hidden edges of the rear wheel > arch upholstery. To fit those pieces over the padded arches, I needed to > secure the hidden edges in order to pull the upholstery snugly over the > complex curves of the arches. See attached picture. > The lower edge of the upholstery will get cemented to the rear deck and > hidden by the deck carpet. The sides will receive upholstery cards hiding > the just cemented arch upholstery. > > Rick > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Rick On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 11:57 AM William Pugh wrote: > Don?t know, don?t care ? this is a Triumph venue for help ? not a one user > Blog. > > > On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack < > 6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > Hello friends, > > Isn't 'queue' an awesome word? Yea, I love words and the many ways > one might string them together. I guess that point is obvious by now. > > Douglas Adams was just amazing in his skills at wordsmith. He had two > phrases that I completely love. Paraphrasing, the first is, "The space > ships fell from the sky in exactly the same way that anvils don't." The > other quote that I admire is, "I love deadines. I particularly like the > whizzing sound that they make as they go by." > > > > So what is in YOUR queue for today? I may go collect my grandson this > morning so he can help me make biscuits for Nancy's breakfast. Kelum and > his mom are awake and up, like me, but Nancy isn't. I also need to learn if > Kelum's mom has other plans today. > > > > Yesterday I reported that the headliner came out of the Nissan pickup > easily and without drama. This morning I hope to brush away any remaining > foam bits on the substrate (another good word) and cement the new foam > backed fabric in place. If I get that far I can reinstall the headliner, > but I first have to be make sure that the cement is well and truly dried. > Otherwise, any finger pressure on the fabric may collapse the foam backing > and cause it to stick that way. > > > > I also reported yesterday that I have begun attaching the upholstery > on the TR6's rear wheel arches. Today I will test the cement job by gently > pulling the formed upholstery vinyl down over the archs for a smooth fit. > If all goes well there, I will cement the bottom edge to the body and leave > the glue to dry. Then afterward, say another 24 hours, I can cement down > all the remaining edges and cut the holes for the seat belt's shoulder > harness mounting hardware. > > > > All of this work on the TR6's interior is pretty routine, if > sometimes laborious. The next real challenge will be rebuilding the seats. > I say 'rebuilding' rather than reupholstering because the internal frames > have to be restored before new foam and upholstery can go on. Attached are > pictures of the driver's seat with the old upholstery split away. It should > be obvious that not only is the support mechanism damaged but also, the > metal frame is rusted quite badly. No pivot joints now move. Fortunately, > the rust damage is mostly surface rust and not so bad that the frames can't > be cleaned, repainted and the reused. Yep, lots of work to do there! > > > > Happy, happy, > > > > Rick > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:12 PM Richard Lindsay > wrote: > > Hello friends, > > I made a little progress today on both the TR6 and the Nissan pickup. > Both are improving in baby steps. Here are those from steps from today. > > The pickup is so easy to repair. This morning I used my plastic > upholstery trim tools and removed the bits up the windscreen sides and > those at the top of the B pillar. With those out, the old droopy headliner > lifted out the driver's door without argument! Easy peasy. > > Tomorrow I will brush away the foam remains of the old headliner and > maybe even attach the new cloth. Pictures to follow if I get that far. > > Also this morning I cemented down the hidden edges of the rear wheel > arch upholstery. To fit those pieces over the padded arches, I needed to > secure the hidden edges in order to pull the upholstery snugly over the > complex curves of the arches. See attached picture. > > The lower edge of the upholstery will get cemented to the rear deck > and hidden by the deck carpet. The sides will receive upholstery cards > hiding the just cemented arch upholstery. > > > > > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 small mouth ? it runs?fast. > 1970 TR6 Rosey ? she wins 1st Place over and over. > > Life is too short > to drive Boring Cars > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adamcbeasley at gmail.com Fri Dec 27 15:46:18 2019 From: adamcbeasley at gmail.com (Adam Beasley) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 17:46:18 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3jcvccn8malifq8jh9a33l9a.1577486776090@email.android.com> Richard, William speaks for himself. ?I personally have been enjoying your posts. Please continue to share. Adam 73 TR6 Sent from Nine ________________________________ From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 4:44 PM To: William Pugh; TR6 Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update Sorry to have offended you and apparently violated the group rules, or perhaps your expectations. It is my error to assume that Triumph owners care about more than DIY help. The error won't be repeated...by me anyway. Enjoy your broken cars. Rick On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 11:57 AM William Pugh wrote: > > Don?t know, don?t care ? this is a Triumph venue for help ? not a one user Blog. > > > On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > Hello friends, > >? ? Isn't 'queue' an awesome word? Yea, I love words and the many ways one might string them together. I guess that point is obvious by now. > >? ? Douglas Adams was just amazing in his skills at wordsmith. He had two phrases that I completely love. Paraphrasing, the first is, "The space ships fell from the sky in exactly the same way that anvils don't." The other quote that I admire is, "I love deadines. I particularly like the whizzing sound that they make as they go by." > > > >? ? So what is in YOUR queue for today? I may go collect my grandson this morning so he can help me make biscuits for Nancy's breakfast. Kelum and his mom are awake and up, like me, but Nancy isn't. I also need to learn if Kelum's mom has other plans today. > > > >? ? Yesterday I reported that the headliner came out of the Nissan pickup easily and without drama. This morning I hope to brush away any remaining foam bits on the substrate (another good word) and cement the new foam backed fabric in place. If I get that far I can reinstall the headliner, but I first have to be make sure that the cement is well and truly dried. Otherwise, any finger pressure on the fabric may collapse the foam backing and cause it to stick that way. > > > >? ? I also reported yesterday that I have begun attaching the upholstery on the TR6's rear wheel arches. Today I will test the cement job by gently pulling the formed upholstery vinyl down over the archs for a smooth fit. If all goes well there, I will cement the bottom edge to the body and leave the glue to dry. Then afterward, say another 24 hours, I can cement down all the remaining edges and cut the holes for the seat belt's shoulder harness mounting hardware.? > > > >? ? All of this work on the TR6's interior is pretty routine, if sometimes laborious. The next real challenge will be rebuilding the seats. I say 'rebuilding' rather than reupholstering because the internal frames have to be restored before new foam and upholstery can go on. Attached are pictures of the driver's seat with the old upholstery split away. It should be obvious that not only is the support mechanism damaged but also, the metal frame is rusted quite badly. No pivot joints now move. Fortunately, the rust damage is mostly surface rust and not so bad that the frames can't be cleaned, repainted and the reused. Yep, lots of work to do there! > > > > Happy, happy, > > > > Rick > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:12 PM Richard Lindsay wrote: > > Hello friends, > >? ? I made a little progress today on both the TR6 and the Nissan pickup. Both are improving in baby steps. Here are those from steps from today. > >? ? The pickup is so easy to repair. This morning I used my plastic upholstery trim tools and removed the bits up the windscreen sides and those at the top of the B pillar. With those out, the old droopy headliner lifted out the driver's door without argument! Easy peasy. > >? ? Tomorrow I will brush away the foam remains of the old headliner and maybe even attach the new cloth. Pictures to follow if I get that far. > >? ? Also this morning I cemented down the hidden edges of the rear wheel arch upholstery. To fit those pieces over the padded arches, I needed to secure the hidden edges in order to pull the upholstery snugly over the complex? curves of the arches. See attached picture. > >? ? The lower edge of the upholstery will get cemented to the rear deck and hidden by the deck carpet. The sides will receive upholstery cards hiding the just cemented arch upholstery. > > > > > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 small mouth? ? it runs?fast. > 1970 TR6 Rosey ? she wins 1st Place over and over. > > Life is too short > to drive Boring Cars > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From im_sloane at hotmail.com Fri Dec 27 19:21:38 2019 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 02:21:38 +0000 Subject: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update In-Reply-To: <3jcvccn8malifq8jh9a33l9a.1577486776090@email.android.com> References: , <3jcvccn8malifq8jh9a33l9a.1577486776090@email.android.com> Message-ID: I too have enjoyed and been inspired by the level of detail performed and shared with our group on this "daily driver" restoration. I have little doubt that at some point Rick will hit some TR-gremlin and need some assistance from the seasoned TR-experts. I will concede that this has possibly been an unusual use of this forum, but I would respectfully suggest that anyone not enjoying the dialogue simply press "delete". I would also remind that not too long ago this forum was almost completely dead for quite a while and I've been afraid it would be deleted. Sloane 69-Six 72-Spit ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Adam Beasley via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 10:46 PM To: Richard Lindsay ; William Pugh ; TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update Richard, William speaks for himself. I personally have been enjoying your posts. Please continue to share. Adam 73 TR6 Sent from Nine ________________________________ From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 4:44 PM To: William Pugh; TR6 Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update Sorry to have offended you and apparently violated the group rules, or perhaps your expectations. It is my error to assume that Triumph owners care about more than DIY help. The error won't be repeated...by me anyway. Enjoy your broken cars. Rick On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 11:57 AM William Pugh > wrote: Don?t know, don?t care ? this is a Triumph venue for help ? not a one user Blog. > On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Hello friends, > Isn't 'queue' an awesome word? Yea, I love words and the many ways one might string them together. I guess that point is obvious by now. > Douglas Adams was just amazing in his skills at wordsmith. He had two phrases that I completely love. Paraphrasing, the first is, "The space ships fell from the sky in exactly the same way that anvils don't." The other quote that I admire is, "I love deadines. I particularly like the whizzing sound that they make as they go by." > > So what is in YOUR queue for today? I may go collect my grandson this morning so he can help me make biscuits for Nancy's breakfast. Kelum and his mom are awake and up, like me, but Nancy isn't. I also need to learn if Kelum's mom has other plans today. > > Yesterday I reported that the headliner came out of the Nissan pickup easily and without drama. This morning I hope to brush away any remaining foam bits on the substrate (another good word) and cement the new foam backed fabric in place. If I get that far I can reinstall the headliner, but I first have to be make sure that the cement is well and truly dried. Otherwise, any finger pressure on the fabric may collapse the foam backing and cause it to stick that way. > > I also reported yesterday that I have begun attaching the upholstery on the TR6's rear wheel arches. Today I will test the cement job by gently pulling the formed upholstery vinyl down over the archs for a smooth fit. If all goes well there, I will cement the bottom edge to the body and leave the glue to dry. Then afterward, say another 24 hours, I can cement down all the remaining edges and cut the holes for the seat belt's shoulder harness mounting hardware. > > All of this work on the TR6's interior is pretty routine, if sometimes laborious. The next real challenge will be rebuilding the seats. I say 'rebuilding' rather than reupholstering because the internal frames have to be restored before new foam and upholstery can go on. Attached are pictures of the driver's seat with the old upholstery split away. It should be obvious that not only is the support mechanism damaged but also, the metal frame is rusted quite badly. No pivot joints now move. Fortunately, the rust damage is mostly surface rust and not so bad that the frames can't be cleaned, repainted and the reused. Yep, lots of work to do there! > > Happy, happy, > > Rick > > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:12 PM Richard Lindsay > wrote: > Hello friends, > I made a little progress today on both the TR6 and the Nissan pickup. Both are improving in baby steps. Here are those from steps from today. > The pickup is so easy to repair. This morning I used my plastic upholstery trim tools and removed the bits up the windscreen sides and those at the top of the B pillar. With those out, the old droopy headliner lifted out the driver's door without argument! Easy peasy. > Tomorrow I will brush away the foam remains of the old headliner and maybe even attach the new cloth. Pictures to follow if I get that far. > Also this morning I cemented down the hidden edges of the rear wheel arch upholstery. To fit those pieces over the padded arches, I needed to secure the hidden edges in order to pull the upholstery snugly over the complex curves of the arches. See attached picture. > The lower edge of the upholstery will get cemented to the rear deck and hidden by the deck carpet. The sides will receive upholstery cards hiding the just cemented arch upholstery. > > Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 small mouth ? it runs?fast. 1970 TR6 Rosey ? she wins 1st Place over and over. Life is too short to drive Boring Cars -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mohawktriumphs at aol.com Fri Dec 27 19:49:21 2019 From: mohawktriumphs at aol.com (mohawktriumphs) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:49:21 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update References: Message-ID: This gearhead chimes in with Richard . This forum has been helpful in lots of ways. His interest and focus are contagious. Thanks,and please continue. . . Frank 69 cc26xxxu+o 70 cc54xxxu+o Sent from my ASUS Pad im sloane via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.96 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >6pack at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mohawktriumphs at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mohawktriumphs at aol.com Fri Dec 27 19:49:21 2019 From: mohawktriumphs at aol.com (mohawktriumphs) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:49:21 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update References: Message-ID: This gearhead chimes in with Richard . This forum has been helpful in lots of ways. His interest and focus are contagious. Thanks,and please continue. . . Frank 69 cc26xxxu+o 70 cc54xxxu+o Sent from my ASUS Pad im sloane via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.96 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >6pack at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/mohawktriumphs at aol.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grglmn at gmail.com Fri Dec 27 20:42:47 2019 From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 21:42:47 -0600 Subject: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I too enjoy Richard's posts, as noted, the room was pretty quiet, he is keeping the party going. Some days I am too busy to read it all, but no harm no foul if I don't. Greg Lemon TR250 On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 8:49 PM mohawktriumphs via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > This gearhead chimes in with Richard . This forum has been > helpful in lots of ways. His interest and focus are contagious. Thanks,and > please continue. . . > Frank > 69 cc26xxxu+o > 70 cc54xxxu+o > > > > Sent from my ASUS Pad > > im sloane via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I too have enjoyed and been inspired by the level of detail performed and > shared with our group on this "daily driver" restoration. I have little > doubt that at some point Rick will hit some TR-gremlin and need some > assistance from the seasoned TR-experts. I will concede that this has > possibly been an unusual use of this forum, but I would respectfully > suggest that anyone not enjoying the dialogue simply press "delete". I > would also remind that not too long ago this forum was almost completely > dead for quite a while and I've been afraid it would be deleted. > > Sloane > 69-Six > 72-Spit > > ------------------------------ > *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Adam Beasley > via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Sent:* Friday, December 27, 2019 10:46 PM > *To:* Richard Lindsay ; William Pugh < > anabil007 at comcast.net>; TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update > > Richard, > > William speaks for himself. I personally have been enjoying your posts. > > Please continue to share. > > Adam > 73 TR6 > > Sent from Nine > ------------------------------ > *From:* Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Sent:* Friday, December 27, 2019 4:44 PM > *To:* William Pugh; TR6 > *Subject:* Re: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update > > Sorry to have offended you and apparently violated the group rules, or > perhaps your expectations. It is my error to assume that Triumph owners > care about more than DIY help. The error won't be repeated...by me anyway. > Enjoy your broken cars. > > Rick > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 11:57 AM William Pugh wrote: > > Don?t know, don?t care ? this is a Triumph venue for help ? not a one user > Blog. > > > On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack < > 6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > Hello friends, > > Isn't 'queue' an awesome word? Yea, I love words and the many ways > one might string them together. I guess that point is obvious by now. > > Douglas Adams was just amazing in his skills at wordsmith. He had two > phrases that I completely love. Paraphrasing, the first is, "The space > ships fell from the sky in exactly the same way that anvils don't." The > other quote that I admire is, "I love deadines. I particularly like the > whizzing sound that they make as they go by." > > > > So what is in YOUR queue for today? I may go collect my grandson this > morning so he can help me make biscuits for Nancy's breakfast. Kelum and > his mom are awake and up, like me, but Nancy isn't. I also need to learn if > Kelum's mom has other plans today. > > > > Yesterday I reported that the headliner came out of the Nissan pickup > easily and without drama. This morning I hope to brush away any remaining > foam bits on the substrate (another good word) and cement the new foam > backed fabric in place. If I get that far I can reinstall the headliner, > but I first have to be make sure that the cement is well and truly dried. > Otherwise, any finger pressure on the fabric may collapse the foam backing > and cause it to stick that way. > > > > I also reported yesterday that I have begun attaching the upholstery > on the TR6's rear wheel arches. Today I will test the cement job by gently > pulling the formed upholstery vinyl down over the archs for a smooth fit. > If all goes well there, I will cement the bottom edge to the body and leave > the glue to dry. Then afterward, say another 24 hours, I can cement down > all the remaining edges and cut the holes for the seat belt's shoulder > harness mounting hardware. > > > > All of this work on the TR6's interior is pretty routine, if > sometimes laborious. The next real challenge will be rebuilding the seats. > I say 'rebuilding' rather than reupholstering because the internal frames > have to be restored before new foam and upholstery can go on. Attached are > pictures of the driver's seat with the old upholstery split away. It should > be obvious that not only is the support mechanism damaged but also, the > metal frame is rusted quite badly. No pivot joints now move. Fortunately, > the rust damage is mostly surface rust and not so bad that the frames can't > be cleaned, repainted and the reused. Yep, lots of work to do there! > > > > Happy, happy, > > > > Rick > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:12 PM Richard Lindsay > wrote: > > Hello friends, > > I made a little progress today on both the TR6 and the Nissan pickup. > Both are improving in baby steps. Here are those from steps from today. > > The pickup is so easy to repair. This morning I used my plastic > upholstery trim tools and removed the bits up the windscreen sides and > those at the top of the B pillar. With those out, the old droopy headliner > lifted out the driver's door without argument! Easy peasy. > > Tomorrow I will brush away the foam remains of the old headliner and > maybe even attach the new cloth. Pictures to follow if I get that far. > > Also this morning I cemented down the hidden edges of the rear wheel > arch upholstery. To fit those pieces over the padded arches, I needed to > secure the hidden edges in order to pull the upholstery snugly over the > complex curves of the arches. See attached picture. > > The lower edge of the upholstery will get cemented to the rear deck > and hidden by the deck carpet. The sides will receive upholstery cards > hiding the just cemented arch upholstery. > > > > > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 small mouth ? it runs?fast. > 1970 TR6 Rosey ? she wins 1st Place over and over. > > Life is too short > to drive Boring Cars > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk Sat Dec 28 03:15:37 2019 From: John.Macartney at Ukpips.org.uk (John Macartney) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 10:15:37 +0000 Subject: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update In-Reply-To: References: <3jcvccn8malifq8jh9a33l9a.1577486776090@email.android.com> Message-ID: <6BEF20BD-2011-487B-A86C-14200773C15B@Ukpips.org.uk> I also share the concern for the continuance of 6pack and triumphs at autox.team.net There was a time a long while ago when posts were plentiful and almost continuous. Maybe there?s been a migration to another location, or the cars have been sold or else their owners have now grown wings and form heavenly choirs? All rather sad but I suppose that?s progress? Jonmac Whenever I feel the need for exercise, experience has shown me it is better to lie down until the feeling goes away. WINSTON CHURCHILL > On 28 Dec 2019, at 02:21, im sloane via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I too have enjoyed and been inspired by the level of detail performed and shared with our group on this "daily driver" restoration. I have little doubt that at some point Rick will hit some TR-gremlin and need some assistance from the seasoned TR-experts. I will concede that this has possibly been an unusual use of this forum, but I would respectfully suggest that anyone not enjoying the dialogue simply press "delete". I would also remind that not too long ago this forum was almost completely dead for quite a while and I've been afraid it would be deleted. > > Sloane > 69-Six > 72-Spit > > From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of Adam Beasley via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 10:46 PM > To: Richard Lindsay ; William Pugh ; TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update > > Richard, > > William speaks for himself. I personally have been enjoying your posts. > > Please continue to share. > > Adam > 73 TR6 > > Sent from Nine > From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 4:44 PM > To: William Pugh; TR6 > Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update > > Sorry to have offended you and apparently violated the group rules, or perhaps your expectations. It is my error to assume that Triumph owners care about more than DIY help. The error won't be repeated...by me anyway. Enjoy your broken cars. > > Rick > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 11:57 AM William Pugh wrote: > Don?t know, don?t care ? this is a Triumph venue for help ? not a one user Blog. > > > On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > > > Hello friends, > > Isn't 'queue' an awesome word? Yea, I love words and the many ways one might string them together. I guess that point is obvious by now. > > Douglas Adams was just amazing in his skills at wordsmith. He had two phrases that I completely love. Paraphrasing, the first is, "The space ships fell from the sky in exactly the same way that anvils don't." The other quote that I admire is, "I love deadines. I particularly like the whizzing sound that they make as they go by." > > > > So what is in YOUR queue for today? I may go collect my grandson this morning so he can help me make biscuits for Nancy's breakfast. Kelum and his mom are awake and up, like me, but Nancy isn't. I also need to learn if Kelum's mom has other plans today. > > > > Yesterday I reported that the headliner came out of the Nissan pickup easily and without drama. This morning I hope to brush away any remaining foam bits on the substrate (another good word) and cement the new foam backed fabric in place. If I get that far I can reinstall the headliner, but I first have to be make sure that the cement is well and truly dried. Otherwise, any finger pressure on the fabric may collapse the foam backing and cause it to stick that way. > > > > I also reported yesterday that I have begun attaching the upholstery on the TR6's rear wheel arches. Today I will test the cement job by gently pulling the formed upholstery vinyl down over the archs for a smooth fit. If all goes well there, I will cement the bottom edge to the body and leave the glue to dry. Then afterward, say another 24 hours, I can cement down all the remaining edges and cut the holes for the seat belt's shoulder harness mounting hardware. > > > > All of this work on the TR6's interior is pretty routine, if sometimes laborious. The next real challenge will be rebuilding the seats. I say 'rebuilding' rather than reupholstering because the internal frames have to be restored before new foam and upholstery can go on. Attached are pictures of the driver's seat with the old upholstery split away. It should be obvious that not only is the support mechanism damaged but also, the metal frame is rusted quite badly. No pivot joints now move. Fortunately, the rust damage is mostly surface rust and not so bad that the frames can't be cleaned, repainted and the reused. Yep, lots of work to do there! > > > > Happy, happy, > > > > Rick > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:12 PM Richard Lindsay wrote: > > Hello friends, > > I made a little progress today on both the TR6 and the Nissan pickup. Both are improving in baby steps. Here are those from steps from today. > > The pickup is so easy to repair. This morning I used my plastic upholstery trim tools and removed the bits up the windscreen sides and those at the top of the B pillar. With those out, the old droopy headliner lifted out the driver's door without argument! Easy peasy. > > Tomorrow I will brush away the foam remains of the old headliner and maybe even attach the new cloth. Pictures to follow if I get that far. > > Also this morning I cemented down the hidden edges of the rear wheel arch upholstery. To fit those pieces over the padded arches, I needed to secure the hidden edges in order to pull the upholstery snugly over the complex curves of the arches. See attached picture. > > The lower edge of the upholstery will get cemented to the rear deck and hidden by the deck carpet. The sides will receive upholstery cards hiding the just cemented arch upholstery. > > > > > > Bill Pugh > 1957 TR3 small mouth ? it runs?fast. > 1970 TR6 Rosey ? she wins 1st Place over and over. > > Life is too short > to drive Boring Cars > > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/john.macartney at ukpips.org.uk > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rrochlin at comcast.net Sat Dec 28 06:22:54 2019 From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 08:22:54 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Nissan Truck Updates Message-ID: A agree with John, Greg and a number of others. I enjoy Richard's up-dates and enthusiasm for his automotive work. You go Boy! If you find a post helpful don't read it. Personally I?ve gleaned a tremendous amount of information from other peoples ?work in progress" posts over the years. Best, Bob ?72 TR6 From rrochlin at comcast.net Sat Dec 28 06:33:24 2019 From: rrochlin at comcast.net (Rochlin Robert) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 08:33:24 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Six Vane Water Pump Message-ID: <3C80FEF1-D61C-4A2D-A30C-44229404B2C2@comcast.net> Hi All, Has anyone upgraded to the six vane water pumps offered by, among others, Flying Dutchman Water Pumps? If so, is your experience that the upgrade decreases over heating? Thanks. Bob ?72 TR6-first winter in 20 years with no punch list From yellowtr at adelphia.net Sat Dec 28 07:05:18 2019 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 09:05:18 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Six Vane Water Pump In-Reply-To: <3C80FEF1-D61C-4A2D-A30C-44229404B2C2@comcast.net> References: <3C80FEF1-D61C-4A2D-A30C-44229404B2C2@comcast.net> Message-ID: <29d972bf-283a-7707-dd99-393ab5ee5468@adelphia.net> Bob, I did on my 63 TR4 a number of years ago when the original seized. To be honest, I have not seen any difference in operating temp. I have the original pump on my 72 and it runs on the cool side compared to my 3 and 4. Bob On 12/28/19 8:33 AM, Rochlin Robert via 6pack wrote: > Hi All, > Has anyone upgraded to the six vane water pumps offered by, among others, Flying Dutchman Water Pumps? If so, is your experience that the upgrade decreases over heating? > Thanks. > Bob > ?72 TR6-first winter in 20 years with no punch list > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/yellowtr at adelphia.net > From rgperry at earthlink.net Sat Dec 28 08:37:40 2019 From: rgperry at earthlink.net (Robert Perry) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 09:37:40 -0600 (GMT-06:00) Subject: [6pack] TR6 Nissan Truck Updates Message-ID: <570380888.1376.1577547460995@wamui-hyena.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hello All, I agree with all the others. Keep posting the updates Richard! After getting my TR6 legal to drive after Hurricane Harvey (I'm close but have a time problem), I'm thinking of painting my TR6 at the same place due to your posts. Thank you for posting, Robert Perry -----Original Message----- >From: Rochlin Robert via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> >Sent: Dec 28, 2019 7:22 AM >To: 6pack at autox.team.net >Subject: [6pack] TR6 Nissan Truck Updates > >A agree with John, Greg and a number of others. I enjoy Richard's up-dates and enthusiasm for his automotive work. You go Boy! >If you find a post helpful don't read it. Personally I?ve gleaned a tremendous amount of information from other peoples ?work in progress" posts over the years. > Best, > Bob > ?72 TR6 >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.96 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >6pack at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/rgperry at earthlink.net > From dave at ranteer.com Sat Dec 28 08:47:08 2019 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 09:47:08 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Fwd: Six Vane Water Pump In-Reply-To: <3C80FEF1-D61C-4A2D-A30C-44229404B2C2@comcast.net> Message-ID: We upgraded to the billet aluminum pump and aluminum water housing offered by Racestorations.? ?That has the 6 vane curved impellers.? The temperature difference was significant.? It was stupid expensive but totally worth it.? ?I'm in Dallas so heat dissipation is important.?On a side note, someone postulated that since the water moved more quickly,? it spent less time in the radiator and that was a bad thing.? ?My engineer nephew explained that the faster the fluid moved,? the lower the temperature.? ?So more vanes, more fluid movement.? Better designed vanes, more fluid movement.? All good.?And,? if you look at the design of the vanes in the original pump,? well, who thought that was a good idea????? I guess it was cheaper to forge -------- Original message --------From: Rochlin Robert via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Date: 12/28/19 7:33 AM (GMT-06:00) To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Six Vane Water Pump Hi All, Has anyone upgraded to the six vane water pumps offered by, among others, Flying Dutchman Water Pumps?? If so, is your experience that the upgrade decreases over heating? Thanks. 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URL: From aljlthomson at charter.net Sat Dec 28 18:23:13 2019 From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson) Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2019 20:23:13 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update In-Reply-To: References: <9164DF2E-ED51-488F-990A-32F4A5820B46@comcast.net> Message-ID: <004f01d5bde6$8a552020$9eff6060$@charter.net> Rick ? Your posts are great! Keep them coming. This time of the year tends to warrant any type of incentive for us to work on our cars and other mechanical oddities such as farm tractors, etc. With the advent of including pictures now, (Thanks to Mark B.) I have picked up a lot of hints about our hobby. Thanks. Alex Thomson ?71 GT6 ?73 TR6 ?39 John Deere B ( 2 cyl.) ?41 John Deere B (2 cyl.) ?52 John Deere 50 (now completely apart for transmission bearing replacements) (190 cubic inch ? 2 cyl.) Randle Young used to have or drive one of these. ?59 John Deere 730 Diesel (376 cubic inch ? 2 cyl.) ?52 Case VAC (4 cyl.) ?08 John Deere 5425 (276 cubic inch ? 4 cyl.) Turbo ?77 John Deere 4230 (404 cubic inch ? 6 cyl.) ?88 John Deere 4250 (466 cubic inch ? 6 cyl.) Turbo. There?s no replacement for displacement. And there are at least 5 more! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 27 17:08:44 2019 From: taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com (Richard) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 16:08:44 -0800 Subject: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update In-Reply-To: <3jcvccn8malifq8jh9a33l9a.1577486776090@email.android.com> References: <3jcvccn8malifq8jh9a33l9a.1577486776090@email.android.com> Message-ID: <3A2B6DE1-EF67-4916-B1E3-F4C311584263@yahoo.com> 6/pack.org. Is the Forum one should be of interested when topics of interest can be posted in special groupings. Along with the more popular "Mechanical, Maintenance & Restoration", off-topics can contain the more Social media type. That way if you're not particularly interested at that moment, just don't click on! Dick > On Dec 27, 2019, at 2:46 PM, Adam Beasley via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Richard, > > William speaks for himself. I personally have been enjoying your posts. > > Please continue to share. > > Adam > 73 TR6 > > Sent from Nine > From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 4:44 PM > To: William Pugh; TR6 > Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update > > Sorry to have offended you and apparently violated the group rules, or perhaps your expectations. It is my error to assume that Triumph owners care about more than DIY help. The error won't be repeated...by me anyway. Enjoy your broken cars. > > Rick > >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 11:57 AM William Pugh wrote: >> Don?t know, don?t care ? this is a Triumph venue for help ? not a one user Blog. >> >> > On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: >> > >> > Hello friends, >> > Isn't 'queue' an awesome word? Yea, I love words and the many ways one might string them together. I guess that point is obvious by now. >> > Douglas Adams was just amazing in his skills at wordsmith. He had two phrases that I completely love. Paraphrasing, the first is, "The space ships fell from the sky in exactly the same way that anvils don't." The other quote that I admire is, "I love deadines. I particularly like the whizzing sound that they make as they go by." >> > >> > So what is in YOUR queue for today? I may go collect my grandson this morning so he can help me make biscuits for Nancy's breakfast. Kelum and his mom are awake and up, like me, but Nancy isn't. I also need to learn if Kelum's mom has other plans today. >> > >> > Yesterday I reported that the headliner came out of the Nissan pickup easily and without drama. This morning I hope to brush away any remaining foam bits on the substrate (another good word) and cement the new foam backed fabric in place. If I get that far I can reinstall the headliner, but I first have to be make sure that the cement is well and truly dried. Otherwise, any finger pressure on the fabric may collapse the foam backing and cause it to stick that way. >> > >> > I also reported yesterday that I have begun attaching the upholstery on the TR6's rear wheel arches. Today I will test the cement job by gently pulling the formed upholstery vinyl down over the archs for a smooth fit. If all goes well there, I will cement the bottom edge to the body and leave the glue to dry. Then afterward, say another 24 hours, I can cement down all the remaining edges and cut the holes for the seat belt's shoulder harness mounting hardware. >> > >> > All of this work on the TR6's interior is pretty routine, if sometimes laborious. The next real challenge will be rebuilding the seats. I say 'rebuilding' rather than reupholstering because the internal frames have to be restored before new foam and upholstery can go on. Attached are pictures of the driver's seat with the old upholstery split away. It should be obvious that not only is the support mechanism damaged but also, the metal frame is rusted quite badly. No pivot joints now move. Fortunately, the rust damage is mostly surface rust and not so bad that the frames can't be cleaned, repainted and the reused. Yep, lots of work to do there! >> > >> > Happy, happy, >> > >> > Rick >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:12 PM Richard Lindsay wrote: >> > Hello friends, >> > I made a little progress today on both the TR6 and the Nissan pickup. Both are improving in baby steps. Here are those from steps from today. >> > The pickup is so easy to repair. This morning I used my plastic upholstery trim tools and removed the bits up the windscreen sides and those at the top of the B pillar. With those out, the old droopy headliner lifted out the driver's door without argument! Easy peasy. >> > Tomorrow I will brush away the foam remains of the old headliner and maybe even attach the new cloth. Pictures to follow if I get that far. >> > Also this morning I cemented down the hidden edges of the rear wheel arch upholstery. To fit those pieces over the padded arches, I needed to secure the hidden edges in order to pull the upholstery snugly over the complex curves of the arches. See attached picture. >> > The lower edge of the upholstery will get cemented to the rear deck and hidden by the deck carpet. The sides will receive upholstery cards hiding the just cemented arch upholstery. >> > >> > >> >> Bill Pugh >> 1957 TR3 small mouth ? it runs?fast. >> 1970 TR6 Rosey ? she wins 1st Place over and over. >> >> Life is too short >> to drive Boring Cars > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 27 17:08:44 2019 From: taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com (Richard) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 16:08:44 -0800 Subject: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update In-Reply-To: <3jcvccn8malifq8jh9a33l9a.1577486776090@email.android.com> References: <3jcvccn8malifq8jh9a33l9a.1577486776090@email.android.com> Message-ID: <3A2B6DE1-EF67-4916-B1E3-F4C311584263@yahoo.com> 6/pack.org. Is the Forum one should be of interested when topics of interest can be posted in special groupings. Along with the more popular "Mechanical, Maintenance & Restoration", off-topics can contain the more Social media type. That way if you're not particularly interested at that moment, just don't click on! Dick > On Dec 27, 2019, at 2:46 PM, Adam Beasley via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Richard, > > William speaks for himself. I personally have been enjoying your posts. > > Please continue to share. > > Adam > 73 TR6 > > Sent from Nine > From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 4:44 PM > To: William Pugh; TR6 > Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update > > Sorry to have offended you and apparently violated the group rules, or perhaps your expectations. It is my error to assume that Triumph owners care about more than DIY help. The error won't be repeated...by me anyway. Enjoy your broken cars. > > Rick > >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 11:57 AM William Pugh wrote: >> Don?t know, don?t care ? this is a Triumph venue for help ? not a one user Blog. >> >> > On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: >> > >> > Hello friends, >> > Isn't 'queue' an awesome word? Yea, I love words and the many ways one might string them together. I guess that point is obvious by now. >> > Douglas Adams was just amazing in his skills at wordsmith. He had two phrases that I completely love. Paraphrasing, the first is, "The space ships fell from the sky in exactly the same way that anvils don't." The other quote that I admire is, "I love deadines. I particularly like the whizzing sound that they make as they go by." >> > >> > So what is in YOUR queue for today? I may go collect my grandson this morning so he can help me make biscuits for Nancy's breakfast. Kelum and his mom are awake and up, like me, but Nancy isn't. I also need to learn if Kelum's mom has other plans today. >> > >> > Yesterday I reported that the headliner came out of the Nissan pickup easily and without drama. This morning I hope to brush away any remaining foam bits on the substrate (another good word) and cement the new foam backed fabric in place. If I get that far I can reinstall the headliner, but I first have to be make sure that the cement is well and truly dried. Otherwise, any finger pressure on the fabric may collapse the foam backing and cause it to stick that way. >> > >> > I also reported yesterday that I have begun attaching the upholstery on the TR6's rear wheel arches. Today I will test the cement job by gently pulling the formed upholstery vinyl down over the archs for a smooth fit. If all goes well there, I will cement the bottom edge to the body and leave the glue to dry. Then afterward, say another 24 hours, I can cement down all the remaining edges and cut the holes for the seat belt's shoulder harness mounting hardware. >> > >> > All of this work on the TR6's interior is pretty routine, if sometimes laborious. The next real challenge will be rebuilding the seats. I say 'rebuilding' rather than reupholstering because the internal frames have to be restored before new foam and upholstery can go on. Attached are pictures of the driver's seat with the old upholstery split away. It should be obvious that not only is the support mechanism damaged but also, the metal frame is rusted quite badly. No pivot joints now move. Fortunately, the rust damage is mostly surface rust and not so bad that the frames can't be cleaned, repainted and the reused. Yep, lots of work to do there! >> > >> > Happy, happy, >> > >> > Rick >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:12 PM Richard Lindsay wrote: >> > Hello friends, >> > I made a little progress today on both the TR6 and the Nissan pickup. Both are improving in baby steps. Here are those from steps from today. >> > The pickup is so easy to repair. This morning I used my plastic upholstery trim tools and removed the bits up the windscreen sides and those at the top of the B pillar. With those out, the old droopy headliner lifted out the driver's door without argument! Easy peasy. >> > Tomorrow I will brush away the foam remains of the old headliner and maybe even attach the new cloth. Pictures to follow if I get that far. >> > Also this morning I cemented down the hidden edges of the rear wheel arch upholstery. To fit those pieces over the padded arches, I needed to secure the hidden edges in order to pull the upholstery snugly over the complex curves of the arches. See attached picture. >> > The lower edge of the upholstery will get cemented to the rear deck and hidden by the deck carpet. The sides will receive upholstery cards hiding the just cemented arch upholstery. >> > >> > >> >> Bill Pugh >> 1957 TR3 small mouth ? it runs?fast. >> 1970 TR6 Rosey ? she wins 1st Place over and over. >> >> Life is too short >> to drive Boring Cars > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rmcbride at mi.rr.com Fri Dec 27 21:08:00 2019 From: rmcbride at mi.rr.com (Robert McBride) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2019 23:08:00 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update In-Reply-To: <3jcvccn8malifq8jh9a33l9a.1577486776090@email.android.com> References: <3jcvccn8malifq8jh9a33l9a.1577486776090@email.android.com> Message-ID: Same here, I also enjoy your updates please keep them coming.. Bob > On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:46 PM, Adam Beasley via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > Richard, > > William speaks for himself. I personally have been enjoying your posts. > > Please continue to share. > > Adam > 73 TR6 > > Sent from Nine > From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 4:44 PM > To: William Pugh; TR6 > Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 and Nissan pickup update > > Sorry to have offended you and apparently violated the group rules, or perhaps your expectations. It is my error to assume that Triumph owners care about more than DIY help. The error won't be repeated...by me anyway. Enjoy your broken cars. > > Rick > >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 11:57 AM William Pugh wrote: >> Don?t know, don?t care ? this is a Triumph venue for help ? not a one user Blog. >> >> > On Dec 27, 2019, at 5:08 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: >> > >> > Hello friends, >> > Isn't 'queue' an awesome word? Yea, I love words and the many ways one might string them together. I guess that point is obvious by now. >> > Douglas Adams was just amazing in his skills at wordsmith. He had two phrases that I completely love. Paraphrasing, the first is, "The space ships fell from the sky in exactly the same way that anvils don't." The other quote that I admire is, "I love deadines. I particularly like the whizzing sound that they make as they go by." >> > >> > So what is in YOUR queue for today? I may go collect my grandson this morning so he can help me make biscuits for Nancy's breakfast. Kelum and his mom are awake and up, like me, but Nancy isn't. I also need to learn if Kelum's mom has other plans today. >> > >> > Yesterday I reported that the headliner came out of the Nissan pickup easily and without drama. This morning I hope to brush away any remaining foam bits on the substrate (another good word) and cement the new foam backed fabric in place. If I get that far I can reinstall the headliner, but I first have to be make sure that the cement is well and truly dried. Otherwise, any finger pressure on the fabric may collapse the foam backing and cause it to stick that way. >> > >> > I also reported yesterday that I have begun attaching the upholstery on the TR6's rear wheel arches. Today I will test the cement job by gently pulling the formed upholstery vinyl down over the archs for a smooth fit. If all goes well there, I will cement the bottom edge to the body and leave the glue to dry. Then afterward, say another 24 hours, I can cement down all the remaining edges and cut the holes for the seat belt's shoulder harness mounting hardware. >> > >> > All of this work on the TR6's interior is pretty routine, if sometimes laborious. The next real challenge will be rebuilding the seats. I say 'rebuilding' rather than reupholstering because the internal frames have to be restored before new foam and upholstery can go on. Attached are pictures of the driver's seat with the old upholstery split away. It should be obvious that not only is the support mechanism damaged but also, the metal frame is rusted quite badly. No pivot joints now move. Fortunately, the rust damage is mostly surface rust and not so bad that the frames can't be cleaned, repainted and the reused. Yep, lots of work to do there! >> > >> > Happy, happy, >> > >> > Rick >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:12 PM Richard Lindsay wrote: >> > Hello friends, >> > I made a little progress today on both the TR6 and the Nissan pickup. Both are improving in baby steps. Here are those from steps from today. >> > The pickup is so easy to repair. This morning I used my plastic upholstery trim tools and removed the bits up the windscreen sides and those at the top of the B pillar. With those out, the old droopy headliner lifted out the driver's door without argument! Easy peasy. >> > Tomorrow I will brush away the foam remains of the old headliner and maybe even attach the new cloth. Pictures to follow if I get that far. >> > Also this morning I cemented down the hidden edges of the rear wheel arch upholstery. To fit those pieces over the padded arches, I needed to secure the hidden edges in order to pull the upholstery snugly over the complex curves of the arches. See attached picture. >> > The lower edge of the upholstery will get cemented to the rear deck and hidden by the deck carpet. The sides will receive upholstery cards hiding the just cemented arch upholstery. >> > >> > >> >> Bill Pugh >> 1957 TR3 small mouth ? it runs?fast. >> 1970 TR6 Rosey ? she wins 1st Place over and over. >> >> Life is too short >> to drive Boring Cars >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/rmcbride at mi.rr.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From emiles at precisionadplacement.com Sun Dec 29 06:11:34 2019 From: emiles at precisionadplacement.com (Evan Miles) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 08:11:34 -0500 Subject: [6pack] My posts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Love them Rick! Thanks! Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2019, at 6:48 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > ? > Hello All, > Thank you for your comments and encouragement. I will continue to share pictures, keep my rhetoric brief, and will avoid OT content. Perhaps all will then be tolerant. > > Rick > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/emiles at precisionadplacement.com > From rlpennington1 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 29 07:25:34 2019 From: rlpennington1 at yahoo.com (rlpennington1 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 08:25:34 -0600 Subject: [6pack] My posts In-Reply-To: References: <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1.ref@email.android.com> Message-ID: <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1@email.android.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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With that said, in the 42 years since that day. I have owned 16 TR6s. I plan on building at least one more. With that said, I have grown an affection for Jaguar as well. I appreciate any and all conversation on topic or not. Yet, I too, began to weary of those who don't think through the entire topic. I got flamed many times for typing things that I knew damn well to be factual. I now practice the enjoyment of others thoughts. As we age, I hear from many that loneliness is the greatest enemy of our lives. So please, say anything and everything you want. Readers, exercise your freedom to not read. Practice the mercy of disagreement without comment. I was raised to believe that if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all. I will read and enjoy every single post ANYONE posts on the TR6 web. Enjoy your passions. Memory is the only thing that leaves this planet with us. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of rlpennington1--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:25:34 AM To: Richard Lindsay Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts Say as much as you feel like saying. Details are great since they remind me of what I need to do, have done or should have done and either forgot, skipped or misunderstood. Your posts are a bit of fresh air on a cold winter's day. Rob On Dec 29, 2019 05:47, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: Hello All, Thank you for your comments and encouragement. I will continue to share pictures, keep my rhetoric brief, and will avoid OT content. Perhaps all will then be tolerant. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grglmn at gmail.com Sun Dec 29 08:45:22 2019 From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 09:45:22 -0600 Subject: [6pack] My posts In-Reply-To: References: <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1.ref@email.android.com> <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1@email.android.com> Message-ID: Very well said Gene On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:48 AM Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > I am a car idiot. I have more cars than I care to admit. The Triumph TR6 > has always been my favorite. I was introduced to the TR6 in 1976 by a tall > beautiful blonde driving a 1975 French Blue TR6. I was 17 years old. With > that said, in the 42 years since that day. I have owned 16 TR6s. I plan on > building at least one more. > With that said, I have grown an affection for Jaguar as well. I appreciate > any and all conversation on topic or not. Yet, I too, began to weary of > those who don't think through the entire topic. I got flamed many times for > typing things that I knew damn well to be factual. I now practice the > enjoyment of others thoughts. As we age, I hear from many that loneliness > is the greatest enemy of our lives. > So please, say anything and everything you want. Readers, exercise your > freedom to not read. Practice the mercy of disagreement without comment. I > was raised to believe that if you can't say something nice, then don't say > anything at all. I will read and enjoy every single post ANYONE posts on > the TR6 web. > > Enjoy your passions. Memory is the only thing that leaves this planet with > us. > > Get Outlook for Android > > ------------------------------ > *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of > rlpennington1--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Sent:* Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:25:34 AM > *To:* Richard Lindsay > *Cc:* TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [6pack] My posts > > Say as much as you feel like saying. Details are great since they remind > me of what I need to do, have done or should have done and either forgot, > skipped or misunderstood. > > Your posts are a bit of fresh air on a cold winter's day. > > Rob > > On Dec 29, 2019 05:47, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > wrote: > > Hello All, > Thank you for your comments and encouragement. I will continue to share > pictures, keep my rhetoric brief, and will avoid OT content. Perhaps all > will then be tolerant. > > Rick > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From motrv8d at hotmail.com Sun Dec 29 09:46:15 2019 From: motrv8d at hotmail.com (Gene Holtzclaw) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 16:46:15 +0000 Subject: [6pack] My posts In-Reply-To: References: <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1.ref@email.android.com> <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1@email.android.com> , Message-ID: Thank you! My next TR6 will be powered by a twincharged Triumph 2.5 liter bored .30 over. After meeting with Lanky Foushee while he was still alive, he actually flamed the fire of passion to potentially get as much as 600 HP from a Triumph 2.5 liter engine by adding a 5th main bearing where the counterweight currently is. I learned so much from Lanky. I have nothing but fond memories of my many phone conversations with him. My next step is a custom billet crank. I have the block machined and ready. I have a custom cam, custom pistons, Lucas Petrol Injection drilled for EFI, serpentine belt system with the GM pancake AC compressor, a supercharger from a Toyota Previa van, and a Garret turbo. One of my car club members has a custom machine shop. After taking him two blocks, and the custom ground cast crank, he was able to create a 5 main TR6 engine. Now, flame away. Our passions are ours. The only thing that limits us is our willingness to allow others to discourage us. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Greg Lemon Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:45:22 AM To: Gene Holtzclaw Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts Very well said Gene On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:48 AM Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: I am a car idiot. I have more cars than I care to admit. The Triumph TR6 has always been my favorite. I was introduced to the TR6 in 1976 by a tall beautiful blonde driving a 1975 French Blue TR6. I was 17 years old. With that said, in the 42 years since that day. I have owned 16 TR6s. I plan on building at least one more. With that said, I have grown an affection for Jaguar as well. I appreciate any and all conversation on topic or not. Yet, I too, began to weary of those who don't think through the entire topic. I got flamed many times for typing things that I knew damn well to be factual. I now practice the enjoyment of others thoughts. As we age, I hear from many that loneliness is the greatest enemy of our lives. So please, say anything and everything you want. Readers, exercise your freedom to not read. Practice the mercy of disagreement without comment. I was raised to believe that if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all. I will read and enjoy every single post ANYONE posts on the TR6 web. Enjoy your passions. Memory is the only thing that leaves this planet with us. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of rlpennington1--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:25:34 AM To: Richard Lindsay > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts Say as much as you feel like saying. Details are great since they remind me of what I need to do, have done or should have done and either forgot, skipped or misunderstood. Your posts are a bit of fresh air on a cold winter's day. Rob On Dec 29, 2019 05:47, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: Hello All, Thank you for your comments and encouragement. I will continue to share pictures, keep my rhetoric brief, and will avoid OT content. Perhaps all will then be tolerant. Rick _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 29 10:00:04 2019 From: taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com (Richard) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 09:00:04 -0800 Subject: [6pack] My posts In-Reply-To: References: <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1.ref@email.android.com> <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1@email.android.com> Message-ID: <206FE216-A0EB-45B0-A859-1B482A47E37A@yahoo.com> What's there to flame? You're building a custom TR with both an SC and a turbo! Having only done half of this myself I'm interested in details. Nothing about a pickup truck or what you had for breakfast! ;) Carry on.... Dick > On Dec 29, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Thank you! > My next TR6 will be powered by a twincharged Triumph 2.5 liter bored .30 over. After meeting with Lanky Foushee while he was still alive, he actually flamed the fire of passion to potentially get as much as 600 HP from a Triumph 2.5 liter engine by adding a 5th main bearing where the counterweight currently is. I learned so much from Lanky. I have nothing but fond memories of my many phone conversations with him. My next step is a custom billet crank. I have the block machined and ready. I have a custom cam, custom pistons, Lucas Petrol Injection drilled for EFI, serpentine belt system with the GM pancake AC compressor, a supercharger from a Toyota Previa van, and a Garret turbo. > One of my car club members has a custom machine shop. After taking him two blocks, and the custom ground cast crank, he was able to create a 5 main TR6 engine. > Now, flame away. Our passions are ours. The only thing that limits us is our willingness to allow others to discourage us. > > > Get Outlook for Android > > From: Greg Lemon > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:45:22 AM > To: Gene Holtzclaw > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts > > Very well said Gene > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:48 AM Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > I am a car idiot. I have more cars than I care to admit. The Triumph TR6 has always been my favorite. I was introduced to the TR6 in 1976 by a tall beautiful blonde driving a 1975 French Blue TR6. I was 17 years old. With that said, in the 42 years since that day. I have owned 16 TR6s. I plan on building at least one more. > With that said, I have grown an affection for Jaguar as well. I appreciate any and all conversation on topic or not. Yet, I too, began to weary of those who don't think through the entire topic. I got flamed many times for typing things that I knew damn well to be factual. I now practice the enjoyment of others thoughts. As we age, I hear from many that loneliness is the greatest enemy of our lives. > So please, say anything and everything you want. Readers, exercise your freedom to not read. Practice the mercy of disagreement without comment. I was raised to believe that if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all. I will read and enjoy every single post ANYONE posts on the TR6 web. > > Enjoy your passions. Memory is the only thing that leaves this planet with us. > > Get Outlook for Android > > > From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of rlpennington1--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:25:34 AM > To: Richard Lindsay > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts > > Say as much as you feel like saying. Details are great since they remind me of what I need to do, have done or should have done and either forgot, skipped or misunderstood. > > Your posts are a bit of fresh air on a cold winter's day. > > Rob > > On Dec 29, 2019 05:47, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hello All, > Thank you for your comments and encouragement. I will continue to share pictures, keep my rhetoric brief, and will avoid OT content. Perhaps all will then be tolerant. > > Rick > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com Sun Dec 29 10:00:04 2019 From: taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com (Richard) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 09:00:04 -0800 Subject: [6pack] My posts In-Reply-To: References: <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1.ref@email.android.com> <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1@email.android.com> Message-ID: <206FE216-A0EB-45B0-A859-1B482A47E37A@yahoo.com> What's there to flame? You're building a custom TR with both an SC and a turbo! Having only done half of this myself I'm interested in details. Nothing about a pickup truck or what you had for breakfast! ;) Carry on.... Dick > On Dec 29, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > Thank you! > My next TR6 will be powered by a twincharged Triumph 2.5 liter bored .30 over. After meeting with Lanky Foushee while he was still alive, he actually flamed the fire of passion to potentially get as much as 600 HP from a Triumph 2.5 liter engine by adding a 5th main bearing where the counterweight currently is. I learned so much from Lanky. I have nothing but fond memories of my many phone conversations with him. My next step is a custom billet crank. I have the block machined and ready. I have a custom cam, custom pistons, Lucas Petrol Injection drilled for EFI, serpentine belt system with the GM pancake AC compressor, a supercharger from a Toyota Previa van, and a Garret turbo. > One of my car club members has a custom machine shop. After taking him two blocks, and the custom ground cast crank, he was able to create a 5 main TR6 engine. > Now, flame away. Our passions are ours. The only thing that limits us is our willingness to allow others to discourage us. > > > Get Outlook for Android > > From: Greg Lemon > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:45:22 AM > To: Gene Holtzclaw > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts > > Very well said Gene > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:48 AM Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > I am a car idiot. I have more cars than I care to admit. The Triumph TR6 has always been my favorite. I was introduced to the TR6 in 1976 by a tall beautiful blonde driving a 1975 French Blue TR6. I was 17 years old. With that said, in the 42 years since that day. I have owned 16 TR6s. I plan on building at least one more. > With that said, I have grown an affection for Jaguar as well. I appreciate any and all conversation on topic or not. Yet, I too, began to weary of those who don't think through the entire topic. I got flamed many times for typing things that I knew damn well to be factual. I now practice the enjoyment of others thoughts. As we age, I hear from many that loneliness is the greatest enemy of our lives. > So please, say anything and everything you want. Readers, exercise your freedom to not read. Practice the mercy of disagreement without comment. I was raised to believe that if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all. I will read and enjoy every single post ANYONE posts on the TR6 web. > > Enjoy your passions. Memory is the only thing that leaves this planet with us. > > Get Outlook for Android > > > From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of rlpennington1--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:25:34 AM > To: Richard Lindsay > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts > > Say as much as you feel like saying. Details are great since they remind me of what I need to do, have done or should have done and either forgot, skipped or misunderstood. > > Your posts are a bit of fresh air on a cold winter's day. > > Rob > > On Dec 29, 2019 05:47, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > Hello All, > Thank you for your comments and encouragement. I will continue to share pictures, keep my rhetoric brief, and will avoid OT content. Perhaps all will then be tolerant. > > Rick > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Sun Dec 29 10:01:09 2019 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 10:01:09 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Off Topic stuff Message-ID: <6a90c639-30d4-ec09-766c-c096aef5bce0@bradakis.com> For the most part, none of the Team Net lists these days suffers from an overwhelming flow of emails.? Back in the day some of the bigger lists, though, it was a different story.? For example, the SCCA Solo II Nationals are held early September, and the autocross list often saw 3 - 4 dozen messages *per day* in the weeks leading up to that event.? I was a busy list admin back then. But now things are more mellow, some off topic chatter isn't that bad.? Sure, some folks might frown upon it, and it shouldn't be allowed to get out of hand.? I much prefer that I don't have to step in as Team Net Supreme Overlord and whack anyone's pee pee. Years ago I did set up a list I called the-local.? [ http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo ]? It was intended for off topic chatter, stuff you'd chatter about with your mates while raising a pint down at your local.? If you wanted to rave about last night's sunset, warn folks to shy away from a really skanky new beer, or brag about how that beef wellington you cooked for your spouse's birthday was the best ever, the-local was the list for that.? It never did really catch on, I wish it had.? Could be a fun distraction with your friends from the various other lists. Best wishes for the coming new year, mjb. From motrv8d at hotmail.com Sun Dec 29 10:08:09 2019 From: motrv8d at hotmail.com (Gene Holtzclaw) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 17:08:09 +0000 Subject: [6pack] My posts In-Reply-To: <206FE216-A0EB-45B0-A859-1B482A47E37A@yahoo.com> References: <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1.ref@email.android.com> <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1@email.android.com> , <206FE216-A0EB-45B0-A859-1B482A47E37A@yahoo.com> Message-ID: This project has been on hold for 7-8 years. I went through a divorce, a bad downturn in the economy of construction. Things are looking much better financially. I hope to take the block, cast crank, and a set of bearings to Kings Custom Cranks in NC as they are in driving distance, and seem to be willing to take on such a crazy idea Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Richard Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 12:00:04 PM To: Gene Holtzclaw Cc: Greg Lemon ; TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts What's there to flame? You're building a custom TR with both an SC and a turbo! Having only done half of this myself I'm interested in details. Nothing about a pickup truck or what you had for breakfast! ;) Carry on.... Dick On Dec 29, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: Thank you! My next TR6 will be powered by a twincharged Triumph 2.5 liter bored .30 over. After meeting with Lanky Foushee while he was still alive, he actually flamed the fire of passion to potentially get as much as 600 HP from a Triumph 2.5 liter engine by adding a 5th main bearing where the counterweight currently is. I learned so much from Lanky. I have nothing but fond memories of my many phone conversations with him. My next step is a custom billet crank. I have the block machined and ready. I have a custom cam, custom pistons, Lucas Petrol Injection drilled for EFI, serpentine belt system with the GM pancake AC compressor, a supercharger from a Toyota Previa van, and a Garret turbo. One of my car club members has a custom machine shop. After taking him two blocks, and the custom ground cast crank, he was able to create a 5 main TR6 engine. Now, flame away. Our passions are ours. The only thing that limits us is our willingness to allow others to discourage us. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Greg Lemon > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:45:22 AM To: Gene Holtzclaw > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts Very well said Gene On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:48 AM Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: I am a car idiot. I have more cars than I care to admit. The Triumph TR6 has always been my favorite. I was introduced to the TR6 in 1976 by a tall beautiful blonde driving a 1975 French Blue TR6. I was 17 years old. With that said, in the 42 years since that day. I have owned 16 TR6s. I plan on building at least one more. With that said, I have grown an affection for Jaguar as well. I appreciate any and all conversation on topic or not. Yet, I too, began to weary of those who don't think through the entire topic. I got flamed many times for typing things that I knew damn well to be factual. I now practice the enjoyment of others thoughts. As we age, I hear from many that loneliness is the greatest enemy of our lives. So please, say anything and everything you want. Readers, exercise your freedom to not read. Practice the mercy of disagreement without comment. I was raised to believe that if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all. I will read and enjoy every single post ANYONE posts on the TR6 web. Enjoy your passions. Memory is the only thing that leaves this planet with us. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of rlpennington1--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:25:34 AM To: Richard Lindsay > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts Say as much as you feel like saying. Details are great since they remind me of what I need to do, have done or should have done and either forgot, skipped or misunderstood. Your posts are a bit of fresh air on a cold winter's day. Rob On Dec 29, 2019 05:47, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: Hello All, Thank you for your comments and encouragement. I will continue to share pictures, keep my rhetoric brief, and will avoid OT content. Perhaps all will then be tolerant. 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URL: From grglmn at gmail.com Sun Dec 29 11:49:25 2019 From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 12:49:25 -0600 Subject: [6pack] My posts In-Reply-To: References: <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1.ref@email.android.com> <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1@email.android.com> Message-ID: Much less ambitious here, but I am slowly in the process of building what I call my "factory special test head" that I have ported out and fitting Nissan R200 limited slip differential to my TR250, but I have been so busy with other things that progress has been so slow it is hardly worth writing about, though I hope to get the limited slip on this winter. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 10:46 AM Gene Holtzclaw wrote: > Thank you! > My next TR6 will be powered by a twincharged Triumph 2.5 liter bored .30 > over. After meeting with Lanky Foushee while he was still alive, he > actually flamed the fire of passion to potentially get as much as 600 HP > from a Triumph 2.5 liter engine by adding a 5th main bearing where the > counterweight currently is. I learned so much from Lanky. I have nothing > but fond memories of my many phone conversations with him. My next step is > a custom billet crank. I have the block machined and ready. I have a custom > cam, custom pistons, Lucas Petrol Injection drilled for EFI, serpentine > belt system with the GM pancake AC compressor, a supercharger from a Toyota > Previa van, and a Garret turbo. > One of my car club members has a custom machine shop. After taking him two > blocks, and the custom ground cast crank, he was able to create a 5 main > TR6 engine. > Now, flame away. Our passions are ours. The only thing that limits us is > our willingness to allow others to discourage us. > > > Get Outlook for Android > ------------------------------ > *From:* Greg Lemon > *Sent:* Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:45:22 AM > *To:* Gene Holtzclaw > *Cc:* TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [6pack] My posts > > Very well said Gene > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:48 AM Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack < > 6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I am a car idiot. I have more cars than I care to admit. The Triumph TR6 > has always been my favorite. I was introduced to the TR6 in 1976 by a tall > beautiful blonde driving a 1975 French Blue TR6. I was 17 years old. With > that said, in the 42 years since that day. I have owned 16 TR6s. I plan on > building at least one more. > With that said, I have grown an affection for Jaguar as well. I appreciate > any and all conversation on topic or not. Yet, I too, began to weary of > those who don't think through the entire topic. I got flamed many times for > typing things that I knew damn well to be factual. I now practice the > enjoyment of others thoughts. As we age, I hear from many that loneliness > is the greatest enemy of our lives. > So please, say anything and everything you want. Readers, exercise your > freedom to not read. Practice the mercy of disagreement without comment. I > was raised to believe that if you can't say something nice, then don't say > anything at all. I will read and enjoy every single post ANYONE posts on > the TR6 web. > > Enjoy your passions. Memory is the only thing that leaves this planet with > us. > > Get Outlook for Android > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of > rlpennington1--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Sent:* Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:25:34 AM > *To:* Richard Lindsay > *Cc:* TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [6pack] My posts > > Say as much as you feel like saying. Details are great since they remind > me of what I need to do, have done or should have done and either forgot, > skipped or misunderstood. > > Your posts are a bit of fresh air on a cold winter's day. > > Rob > > On Dec 29, 2019 05:47, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > wrote: > > Hello All, > Thank you for your comments and encouragement. I will continue to share > pictures, keep my rhetoric brief, and will avoid OT content. Perhaps all > will then be tolerant. > > Rick > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From motrv8d at hotmail.com Sun Dec 29 12:07:17 2019 From: motrv8d at hotmail.com (Gene Holtzclaw) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 19:07:17 +0000 Subject: [6pack] My posts In-Reply-To: References: <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1.ref@email.android.com> <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1@email.android.com> , Message-ID: I would like to know more about such a head. Lanky assured me that 8000 reliable RPM was very achievable in the 70s when Bob was racing the TR6. It was the 6350 RPM harmonic imbalance of having only 4 main bearings that brought about crank failure. He stated that they would spend 5k in the 70s on a billet crank, and it could still be counted on to fail before or after the huge counterweight. He said 10 laps, or 100, at some point, the crankshaft was most always the culprit. However, given forced induction, he didn't feel that the cast head would be a problem. I wish I would have talked more about porting, but I was focused on the crankshaft and main bearing. Of course, the sanctioning body would have never allowed a 5th main bearing, so it was never a consideration. He told me that they even ran stock rods. Shot peening, sizing, and balance was about all the stock rods needed to survive. I haven't purchased any rods, but am certainly open to opinions on the subject. I have never been a budget kinda guy. I was raised by a father that always taught that wanting something yet only complaining about how you couldn't afford it, was nothing but whining. I guess that thought process made me a entrepreneur. I've seen good times as well as bad. I refuse to wholly dismiss my wants, desires and passions in lieu of a safety net for retirement. I may get hit by a flying pig today, and find out on the other side of wherever our spirit goes that I should have enjoyed the day before pigs learned to fly. Carpe Diem. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Greg Lemon Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 1:49:25 PM To: Gene Holtzclaw Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts Much less ambitious here, but I am slowly in the process of building what I call my "factory special test head" that I have ported out and fitting Nissan R200 limited slip differential to my TR250, but I have been so busy with other things that progress has been so slow it is hardly worth writing about, though I hope to get the limited slip on this winter. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 10:46 AM Gene Holtzclaw > wrote: Thank you! My next TR6 will be powered by a twincharged Triumph 2.5 liter bored .30 over. After meeting with Lanky Foushee while he was still alive, he actually flamed the fire of passion to potentially get as much as 600 HP from a Triumph 2.5 liter engine by adding a 5th main bearing where the counterweight currently is. I learned so much from Lanky. I have nothing but fond memories of my many phone conversations with him. My next step is a custom billet crank. I have the block machined and ready. I have a custom cam, custom pistons, Lucas Petrol Injection drilled for EFI, serpentine belt system with the GM pancake AC compressor, a supercharger from a Toyota Previa van, and a Garret turbo. One of my car club members has a custom machine shop. After taking him two blocks, and the custom ground cast crank, he was able to create a 5 main TR6 engine. Now, flame away. Our passions are ours. The only thing that limits us is our willingness to allow others to discourage us. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Greg Lemon > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:45:22 AM To: Gene Holtzclaw > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts Very well said Gene On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:48 AM Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: I am a car idiot. I have more cars than I care to admit. The Triumph TR6 has always been my favorite. I was introduced to the TR6 in 1976 by a tall beautiful blonde driving a 1975 French Blue TR6. I was 17 years old. With that said, in the 42 years since that day. I have owned 16 TR6s. I plan on building at least one more. With that said, I have grown an affection for Jaguar as well. I appreciate any and all conversation on topic or not. Yet, I too, began to weary of those who don't think through the entire topic. I got flamed many times for typing things that I knew damn well to be factual. I now practice the enjoyment of others thoughts. As we age, I hear from many that loneliness is the greatest enemy of our lives. So please, say anything and everything you want. Readers, exercise your freedom to not read. Practice the mercy of disagreement without comment. I was raised to believe that if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all. I will read and enjoy every single post ANYONE posts on the TR6 web. Enjoy your passions. Memory is the only thing that leaves this planet with us. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of rlpennington1--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:25:34 AM To: Richard Lindsay > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts Say as much as you feel like saying. Details are great since they remind me of what I need to do, have done or should have done and either forgot, skipped or misunderstood. Your posts are a bit of fresh air on a cold winter's day. Rob On Dec 29, 2019 05:47, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: Hello All, Thank you for your comments and encouragement. I will continue to share pictures, keep my rhetoric brief, and will avoid OT content. Perhaps all will then be tolerant. Rick _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Sun Dec 29 21:06:00 2019 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 22:06:00 -0600 Subject: [6pack] My posts In-Reply-To: References: <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1.ref@email.android.com> <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1@email.android.com> , Message-ID: <000501d5bec6$72846920$578d3b60$@ranteer.com> Your posts about mods got my son and I talking about what we have done to our 72 TR6. He very successfully autocrosses it. I gave up autocrossing it because I was not successful! Our motto is ?we drive it, we break it, we fix it.? We are about to replace the stock fuel pump with an electric one; he?s getting some hesitation on the track. Here is a list of mods: triple ZS carbs GP* manifold GP2 mild cam lightened flywheel polished, ported, shaved head rocker arm platforms .030 over pistons decked gblock electronic ignition curved distributor, disabled vacuum advance billet aluminum water pump aluminum water pump casing electric fan aluminum fan extension oil scraper aluminum valve cover stainless steel radiator shroud upgraded front brake pads upgraded rear brake cylinders Q45 limited slip differential aftermarket horns 7" konig rewind wheels ?? wheel spacers all around wider, stickier tires (205/50ZR15 Extra Load Ultra High Performance Sport) GP lowered stiffer front springs heavy duty lever arm rear shocks GP heavy duty front sway bar GP rear sway bar GP adjustable camber rear trailing arm mounts *GoodParts From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 1:07 PM To: Greg Lemon Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts I would like to know more about such a head. Lanky assured me that 8000 reliable RPM was very achievable in the 70s when Bob was racing the TR6. It was the 6350 RPM harmonic imbalance of having only 4 main bearings that brought about crank failure. He stated that they would spend 5k in the 70s on a billet crank, and it could still be counted on to fail before or after the huge counterweight. He said 10 laps, or 100, at some point, the crankshaft was most always the culprit. However, given forced induction, he didn't feel that the cast head would be a problem. I wish I would have talked more about porting, but I was focused on the crankshaft and main bearing. Of course, the sanctioning body would have never allowed a 5th main bearing, so it was never a consideration. He told me that they even ran stock rods. Shot peening, sizing, and balance was about all the stock rods needed to survive. I haven't purchased any rods, but am certainly open to opinions on the subject. I have never been a budget kinda guy. I was raised by a father that always taught that wanting something yet only complaining about how you couldn't afford it, was nothing but whining. I guess that thought process made me a entrepreneur. I've seen good times as well as bad. I refuse to wholly dismiss my wants, desires and passions in lieu of a safety net for retirement. I may get hit by a flying pig today, and find out on the other side of wherever our spirit goes that I should have enjoyed the day before pigs learned to fly. Carpe Diem. Get Outlook for Android _____ From: Greg Lemon > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 1:49:25 PM To: Gene Holtzclaw > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts Much less ambitious here, but I am slowly in the process of building what I call my "factory special test head" that I have ported out and fitting Nissan R200 limited slip differential to my TR250, but I have been so busy with other things that progress has been so slow it is hardly worth writing about, though I hope to get the limited slip on this winter. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 10:46 AM Gene Holtzclaw > wrote: Thank you! My next TR6 will be powered by a twincharged Triumph 2.5 liter bored .30 over. After meeting with Lanky Foushee while he was still alive, he actually flamed the fire of passion to potentially get as much as 600 HP from a Triumph 2.5 liter engine by adding a 5th main bearing where the counterweight currently is. I learned so much from Lanky. I have nothing but fond memories of my many phone conversations with him. My next step is a custom billet crank. I have the block machined and ready. I have a custom cam, custom pistons, Lucas Petrol Injection drilled for EFI, serpentine belt system with the GM pancake AC compressor, a supercharger from a Toyota Previa van, and a Garret turbo. One of my car club members has a custom machine shop. After taking him two blocks, and the custom ground cast crank, he was able to create a 5 main TR6 engine. Now, flame away. Our passions are ours. The only thing that limits us is our willingness to allow others to discourage us. Get Outlook for Android _____ From: Greg Lemon > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:45:22 AM To: Gene Holtzclaw > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts Very well said Gene On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:48 AM Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net > wrote: I am a car idiot. I have more cars than I care to admit. The Triumph TR6 has always been my favorite. I was introduced to the TR6 in 1976 by a tall beautiful blonde driving a 1975 French Blue TR6. I was 17 years old. With that said, in the 42 years since that day. I have owned 16 TR6s. I plan on building at least one more. With that said, I have grown an affection for Jaguar as well. I appreciate any and all conversation on topic or not. Yet, I too, began to weary of those who don't think through the entire topic. I got flamed many times for typing things that I knew damn well to be factual. I now practice the enjoyment of others thoughts. As we age, I hear from many that loneliness is the greatest enemy of our lives. So please, say anything and everything you want. Readers, exercise your freedom to not read. Practice the mercy of disagreement without comment. I was raised to believe that if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all. I will read and enjoy every single post ANYONE posts on the TR6 web. Enjoy your passions. Memory is the only thing that leaves this planet with us. Get Outlook for Android _____ From: 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net > on behalf of rlpennington1--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:25:34 AM To: Richard Lindsay > Cc: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [6pack] My posts Say as much as you feel like saying. Details are great since they remind me of what I need to do, have done or should have done and either forgot, skipped or misunderstood. Your posts are a bit of fresh air on a cold winter's day. Rob On Dec 29, 2019 05:47, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net > wrote: Hello All, Thank you for your comments and encouragement. I will continue to share pictures, keep my rhetoric brief, and will avoid OT content. Perhaps all will then be tolerant. 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URL: From grglmn at gmail.com Mon Dec 30 06:07:12 2019 From: grglmn at gmail.com (Greg Lemon) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 07:07:12 -0600 Subject: [6pack] My posts In-Reply-To: References: <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1.ref@email.android.com> <33cdd9c9-7d04-434c-8623-9ba4af633af1@email.android.com> Message-ID: "I would like to know more about such a head" I don't think I have broken any new ground, cleaned up the intake and exhaust ports, especially around the valve guides, and also ground down the sharp edges in the combustion chamber as outlined in the Kastner book, Triumph Competition Preparation Manual. I have not had the head reassembled or tested yet. Greg Lemon TR250 On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 1:07 PM Gene Holtzclaw wrote: > I would like to know more about such a head. Lanky assured me that 8000 > reliable RPM was very achievable in the 70s when Bob was racing the TR6. It > was the 6350 RPM harmonic imbalance of having only 4 main bearings that > brought about crank failure. He stated that they would spend 5k in the 70s > on a billet crank, and it could still be counted on to fail before or after > the huge counterweight. He said 10 laps, or 100, at some point, the > crankshaft was most always the culprit. > However, given forced induction, he didn't feel that the cast head would > be a problem. I wish I would have talked more about porting, but I was > focused on the crankshaft and main bearing. Of course, the sanctioning body > would have never allowed a 5th main bearing, so it was never a > consideration. He told me that they even ran stock rods. Shot peening, > sizing, and balance was about all the stock rods needed to survive. I > haven't purchased any rods, but am certainly open to opinions on the > subject. > I have never been a budget kinda guy. I was raised by a father that always > taught that wanting something yet only complaining about how you couldn't > afford it, was nothing but whining. > I guess that thought process made me a entrepreneur. I've seen good times > as well as bad. I refuse to wholly dismiss my wants, desires and passions > in lieu of a safety net for retirement. I may get hit by a flying pig > today, and find out on the other side of wherever our spirit goes that I > should have enjoyed the day before pigs learned to fly. Carpe Diem. > > Get Outlook for Android > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Greg Lemon > *Sent:* Sunday, December 29, 2019 1:49:25 PM > *To:* Gene Holtzclaw > *Cc:* TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [6pack] My posts > > Much less ambitious here, but I am slowly in the process of building what > I call my "factory special test head" that I have ported out and fitting > Nissan R200 limited slip differential to my TR250, but I have been so busy > with other things that progress has been so slow it is hardly worth writing > about, though I hope to get the limited slip on this winter. > > Greg Lemon TR250 > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 10:46 AM Gene Holtzclaw wrote: > > Thank you! > My next TR6 will be powered by a twincharged Triumph 2.5 liter bored .30 > over. After meeting with Lanky Foushee while he was still alive, he > actually flamed the fire of passion to potentially get as much as 600 HP > from a Triumph 2.5 liter engine by adding a 5th main bearing where the > counterweight currently is. I learned so much from Lanky. I have nothing > but fond memories of my many phone conversations with him. My next step is > a custom billet crank. I have the block machined and ready. I have a custom > cam, custom pistons, Lucas Petrol Injection drilled for EFI, serpentine > belt system with the GM pancake AC compressor, a supercharger from a Toyota > Previa van, and a Garret turbo. > One of my car club members has a custom machine shop. After taking him two > blocks, and the custom ground cast crank, he was able to create a 5 main > TR6 engine. > Now, flame away. Our passions are ours. The only thing that limits us is > our willingness to allow others to discourage us. > > > Get Outlook for Android > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Greg Lemon > *Sent:* Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:45:22 AM > *To:* Gene Holtzclaw > *Cc:* TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [6pack] My posts > > Very well said Gene > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 8:48 AM Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack < > 6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > I am a car idiot. I have more cars than I care to admit. The Triumph TR6 > has always been my favorite. I was introduced to the TR6 in 1976 by a tall > beautiful blonde driving a 1975 French Blue TR6. I was 17 years old. With > that said, in the 42 years since that day. I have owned 16 TR6s. I plan on > building at least one more. > With that said, I have grown an affection for Jaguar as well. I appreciate > any and all conversation on topic or not. Yet, I too, began to weary of > those who don't think through the entire topic. I got flamed many times for > typing things that I knew damn well to be factual. I now practice the > enjoyment of others thoughts. As we age, I hear from many that loneliness > is the greatest enemy of our lives. > So please, say anything and everything you want. Readers, exercise your > freedom to not read. Practice the mercy of disagreement without comment. I > was raised to believe that if you can't say something nice, then don't say > anything at all. I will read and enjoy every single post ANYONE posts on > the TR6 web. > > Enjoy your passions. Memory is the only thing that leaves this planet with > us. > > Get Outlook for Android > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* 6pack <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> on behalf of > rlpennington1--- via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Sent:* Sunday, December 29, 2019 9:25:34 AM > *To:* Richard Lindsay > *Cc:* TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net> > *Subject:* Re: [6pack] My posts > > Say as much as you feel like saying. Details are great since they remind > me of what I need to do, have done or should have done and either forgot, > skipped or misunderstood. > > Your posts are a bit of fresh air on a cold winter's day. > > Rob > > On Dec 29, 2019 05:47, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> > wrote: > > Hello All, > Thank you for your comments and encouragement. I will continue to share > pictures, keep my rhetoric brief, and will avoid OT content. Perhaps all > will then be tolerant. > > Rick > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/grglmn at gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com Mon Dec 30 06:46:00 2019 From: robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com (Robert Lang) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [6pack] Advancing or retarding the stock camshaft In-Reply-To: <1824415694.106.1577701823583@wamui-koala.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <1824415694.106.1577701823583@wamui-koala.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1243476204.3123822.1577713560048@mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I can say with authority that advancing the cam will help a bit, but it won't result in gobs of power. Note that you must have a proper cam gear to do this, some on the market are not drilled properly limiting the amount of "change" you can make. Adjustable cam gears give you more adjustability and hence allowing you to optimize the cam on the dyno. BUT accessing the gear on the dyno is pretty hard to do, so we tend to stick with what has worked in the past with various cams. All that said, you will likely find a few torques if you advance the cam up to about 4 degrees. Retarding the cam does NOTHING GOOD. Regarding tuning,? you want torque, not HP. Trust me on that. Side story: I had a late TR6 with really low power, the former owner spent scads of $$$ trying to get the car to run right. After I verified the basics, I was able to determine that the cam was retarded. A LOT. Intake was opening ATDC. I fixed that and got over more 30 HP to the wheels. Cam timing does make a difference! I got around 100 HP to the wheels with stock late cam (advanced 4 degrees), header, mild porting and a free-flow exhaust. The biggest gain: ditch the crank-driven fan. 8 HP. You could probably get another one or two by underdriving the alternator, but I've never done that. This was an SCCA "Street Prepared" car with stock compression, pretty much no internal mods and balancing. If you want real power, you can only get there with higher compression or boosting. Period. The 5 main idea is good, but we would also suggest / recommend nitriding the crank no matter what. Stock rods work great when properly prepared, but you can increase reliability by going to aftermarket rods that are lighter. Carillos are e$pen$ive but are also over 110 grams lighter than prepared stock rods. There are cheaper alternatives to Carillo, but they come with some risk. But over 100 grams: That's a LOT of both rotational and reciprocating mass and that will help for your killer harmonics. Note that 6300 is only one of them. The key is not staying at the killer RPMs - you need to not get there or go beyond them. That's enough for now. ;-) C ya,Bob Lang p.s. the chart below is backwards - advancing a cam opens it EARLIER than the published numbers (and retarding opens the valves later. For a stock late TR6 cam, try to open intake at around 22 BTDC. But the REAL number to go for is the lobe center, move that towards TDC to advance the cam. The stock cam lob center is around 110 ATDC, so make that less than 110 and your're good to go. On Monday, December 30, 2019, 5:30:29 AM EST, Robert Perry via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: Hello All, Since there is talk about modifications of their vehicles, has anyone tried to advance or retard the stock camshaft? I know why bother just change it. The camshaft tooth degree is 8.57 (360 /42 teeth) with half tooth being 4.28 degrees. So that would be 2.14 crankshaft degrees. Therefore advancing the camshaft a half tooth in crankshaft degrees would be the following; 10/50 50/10 becomes 7.86/47.86 47.86/7.86 18/58 58/18 becomes 15.86/55.86 55.86/15.86 35/65 65/35 becomes 32.86/62.86 62.86/32.86 ?and if one retards the camshaft 10/50 50/10 becomes 12.14/52.14 52.14/12.14 18/58 58/18 becomes 20.14/60.14 60.14/20.14 35/65 65/35 becomes 37.14/62.86 62.86/37.14 Regards, Robert _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at bradakis.com Mon Dec 30 07:06:40 2019 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 07:06:40 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Off Topic stuff In-Reply-To: References: <6a90c639-30d4-ec09-766c-c096aef5bce0@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <99d9477c-5ab9-41a1-02f5-a9a9e5bab5cb@bradakis.com> On 12/29/19 10:18 PM, im sloane via 6pack wrote: > Was I the only one that got the Cheech and Chong reference? (hehe) Actually, it might have been Firesign Theatre, I can't quite remember. mjb. From trmarty at hotmail.com Mon Dec 30 08:18:56 2019 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 15:18:56 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Advancing or retarding the stock camshaft In-Reply-To: <1243476204.3123822.1577713560048@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1824415694.106.1577701823583@wamui-koala.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, <1243476204.3123822.1577713560048@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I modified a front cover once so that it had a removable plate that allowed access to the adjustable cam sprocket. It never sealed 100% and I gave up after a couple of years. More bother that It was worth to me. Marty Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Robert Lang via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Date: 12/30/19 8:48 AM (GMT-05:00) To: TR6 <6pack at autox.team.net>, Robert Perry Subject: Re: [6pack] Advancing or retarding the stock camshaft Hi, I can say with authority that advancing the cam will help a bit, but it won't result in gobs of power. Note that you must have a proper cam gear to do this, some on the market are not drilled properly limiting the amount of "change" you can make. Adjustable cam gears give you more adjustability and hence allowing you to optimize the cam on the dyno. BUT accessing the gear on the dyno is pretty hard to do, so we tend to stick with what has worked in the past with various cams. All that said, you will likely find a few torques if you advance the cam up to about 4 degrees. Retarding the cam does NOTHING GOOD. Regarding tuning, you want torque, not HP. Trust me on that. Side story: I had a late TR6 with really low power, the former owner spent scads of $$$ trying to get the car to run right. After I verified the basics, I was able to determine that the cam was retarded. A LOT. Intake was opening ATDC. I fixed that and got over more 30 HP to the wheels. Cam timing does make a difference! I got around 100 HP to the wheels with stock late cam (advanced 4 degrees), header, mild porting and a free-flow exhaust. The biggest gain: ditch the crank-driven fan. 8 HP. You could probably get another one or two by underdriving the alternator, but I've never done that. This was an SCCA "Street Prepared" car with stock compression, pretty much no internal mods and balancing. If you want real power, you can only get there with higher compression or boosting. Period. The 5 main idea is good, but we would also suggest / recommend nitriding the crank no matter what. Stock rods work great when properly prepared, but you can increase reliability by going to aftermarket rods that are lighter. Carillos are e$pen$ive but are also over 110 grams lighter than prepared stock rods. There are cheaper alternatives to Carillo, but they come with some risk. But over 100 grams: That's a LOT of both rotational and reciprocating mass and that will help for your killer harmonics. Note that 6300 is only one of them. The key is not staying at the killer RPMs - you need to not get there or go beyond them. That's enough for now. ;-) C ya, Bob Lang p.s. the chart below is backwards - advancing a cam opens it EARLIER than the published numbers (and retarding opens the valves later. For a stock late TR6 cam, try to open intake at around 22 BTDC. But the REAL number to go for is the lobe center, move that towards TDC to advance the cam. The stock cam lob center is around 110 ATDC, so make that less than 110 and your're good to go. On Monday, December 30, 2019, 5:30:29 AM EST, Robert Perry via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: Hello All, Since there is talk about modifications of their vehicles, has anyone tried to advance or retard the stock camshaft? I know why bother just change it. The camshaft tooth degree is 8.57 (360 /42 teeth) with half tooth being 4.28 degrees. So that would be 2.14 crankshaft degrees. Therefore advancing the camshaft a half tooth in crankshaft degrees would be the following; 10/50 50/10 becomes 7.86/47.86 47.86/7.86 18/58 58/18 becomes 15.86/55.86 55.86/15.86 35/65 65/35 becomes 32.86/62.86 62.86/32.86 and if one retards the camshaft 10/50 50/10 becomes 12.14/52.14 52.14/12.14 18/58 58/18 becomes 20.14/60.14 60.14/20.14 35/65 65/35 becomes 37.14/62.86 62.86/37.14 Regards, Robert _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/robertlangtr6 at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I realize the "R" is for a resistor and is required in modern cars, but any difference for an old British car? Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stan at redtr6.com Tue Dec 31 11:52:54 2019 From: stan at redtr6.com (Stan Foster) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 18:52:54 +0000 Subject: [6pack] [TR] NGK plugs In-Reply-To: <00fc01d5c009$30395500$90abff00$@uprichard.net> References: <00fc01d5c009$30395500$90abff00$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: That happened to me too (ordered from Amazon). I returned them and bought a set of BP6ES from the local autozone. I am curious what the consensus is re the R Stan From: Triumphs On Behalf Of andrew uprichard Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 1:36 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] NGK plugs I ordered NGK BP6ES but received NGK BPR6ES. I realize the "R" is for a resistor and is required in modern cars, but any difference for an old British car? Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vsnively at aol.com Tue Dec 31 12:06:18 2019 From: vsnively at aol.com (Victor Snively) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 19:06:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [6pack] [TR] NGK plugs In-Reply-To: References: <00fc01d5c009$30395500$90abff00$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <1117673893.3467937.1577819178690@mail.yahoo.com> I think you'll hear static/ignition noise on your radio without the resistor type. Not sure if it affects wireless devices.??-----Original Message----- From: Stan Foster via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> To: andrew uprichard ; triumphs at autox.team.net ; 6pack at autox.team.net <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Tue, Dec 31, 2019 1:53 pm Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] NGK plugs #yiv7723354009 #yiv7723354009 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} #yiv7723354009 #yiv7723354009 p.yiv7723354009MsoNormal, #yiv7723354009 li.yiv7723354009MsoNormal, #yiv7723354009 div.yiv7723354009MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv7723354009 a:link, #yiv7723354009 span.yiv7723354009MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7723354009 a:visited, #yiv7723354009 span.yiv7723354009MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv7723354009 p.yiv7723354009msonormal0, #yiv7723354009 li.yiv7723354009msonormal0, #yiv7723354009 div.yiv7723354009msonormal0 {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv7723354009 span.yiv7723354009EmailStyle18 {font-family:New serif;color:windowtext;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none none;} #yiv7723354009 span.yiv7723354009EmailStyle19 {font-family:sans-serif;color:windowtext;} #yiv7723354009 .yiv7723354009MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered {} #yiv7723354009 div.yiv7723354009WordSection1 {} #yiv7723354009 That happened to me too (ordered from Amazon). I returned them and bought a set of BP6ES from the local autozone. I am curious what the consensus is re the R ? Stan ? From: Triumphs On Behalf Ofandrew uprichard Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 1:36 PM To: triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [TR] NGK plugs ? I ordered NGK BP6ES but received NGK BPR6ES.? I realize the ?R? is for a resistor and is required in modern cars, but any difference for an old British car? Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan ? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.96 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/vsnively at aol.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbeech at flash.net Tue Dec 31 12:07:15 2019 From: wbeech at flash.net (Wbeech@flash.net) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:07:15 -0600 Subject: [6pack] [TR] NGK plugs In-Reply-To: <00fc01d5c009$30395500$90abff00$@uprichard.net> References: <00fc01d5c009$30395500$90abff00$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <4F4947F2-65A8-4BA6-8245-E8B4FF382C2C@flash.net> Same heat range, will help hold down the static in the old AM radio in the TR. would be interested to know if anyone has any performance difference evidence. Bill Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......MMM > On Dec 31, 2019, at 12:46 PM, andrew uprichard wrote: > ? I ordered NGK BP6ES but received NGK BPR6ES. I realize the ?R? is for a resistor and is required in modern cars, but any difference for an old British car? Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech at flash.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wbeech at flash.net Tue Dec 31 12:07:15 2019 From: wbeech at flash.net (Wbeech@flash.net) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:07:15 -0600 Subject: [6pack] [TR] NGK plugs In-Reply-To: <00fc01d5c009$30395500$90abff00$@uprichard.net> References: <00fc01d5c009$30395500$90abff00$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <4F4947F2-65A8-4BA6-8245-E8B4FF382C2C@flash.net> Same heat range, will help hold down the static in the old AM radio in the TR. would be interested to know if anyone has any performance difference evidence. Bill Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......MMM > On Dec 31, 2019, at 12:46 PM, andrew uprichard wrote: > ? I ordered NGK BP6ES but received NGK BPR6ES. I realize the ?R? is for a resistor and is required in modern cars, but any difference for an old British car? Andrew Uprichard Jackson, Michigan ** triumphs at autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech at flash.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From luichinger at comcast.net Tue Dec 31 12:57:36 2019 From: luichinger at comcast.net (Mark Luichinger) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 14:57:36 -0500 Subject: [6pack] [TR] NGK plugs In-Reply-To: References: <00fc01d5c009$30395500$90abff00$@uprichard.net> Message-ID: <2C9AF88C-6B04-4182-B07B-084CC3A6A08A@comcast.net> Can?t see any issue a resistor would cause with your car. Used to suppress ignition noise for radios cell phones etc. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 31, 2019, at 1:52 PM, Stan Foster via 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net> wrote: > > That happened to me too (ordered from Amazon). I returned them and bought a set of BP6ES from the local autozone. I am curious what the consensus is re the R > > Stan > > From: Triumphs On Behalf Of andrew uprichard > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 1:36 PM > To: triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] NGK plugs > > I ordered NGK BP6ES but received NGK BPR6ES. I realize the ?R? is for a resistor and is required in modern cars, but any difference for an old British car? > > Andrew Uprichard > Jackson, Michigan > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/luichinger at comcast.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: