[6pack] Painting advice

[James_]

Yes. I totally agree...as I mentioned 
"The important bit is the prep
work. "
Maaco goes down to metal as needed and wants to see what is under the old paint. So that was good to see. 

I was mainly interested in opinions about single stage vs base/clear. 

I forgot to mention that I would be removing everything - including the WS frame and deliver a rolling tub. 
I do not want the tape around gaskets and door locks. That is crappy. 
I haven't gotten a quote from Maaco yet. They are looking over the car on Thursday. 

Maaco sands between primer, base, and again after clear and then buffs glossy. They have a booth and then a heated booth. Which is nice. Some places don't have heated booth ovens. 
I do want this to last many years and be professional looking. 
But good to know they may be using cheaper paint. Or something that causes the luster to dull after a few years. 


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> On Jan 13, 2015, at 5:29 AM, "alan salvatore" <alansalvy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There's paint and then there's paint.  One place is going to paint the car for $400-700.
> The other place just the materials are $1000-1500.
> Maaco is by definition a fast production facility.  They don't take off trim, not fussy about masking off parts.
> You ever open up a door and see painted door lock, painted hood springs?
> Most macco jobs I've seen after a year or two have lost quite a bit of luster. ( quality of paint ?)
> They did look pretty good after just being painted.
> You also have to like orange peal as they don't do color sanding.
> 
> I use a single stage with a clearcoat cocktail in the final coat; as it duplicates the original enamel the best to me.
> Its not any cheaper than a basecoat/clear.  So there can be quite a difference in the quality of materials.
> There's a big difference between apples and oranges.
> 
> Just saying.
> 
> Al
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Tom Lofgren <tom.lofgren at stanfordalumni.org> wrote:
>> James,
>> 
>> My son and I are just finishing repainting a 240Z in base coat/clear coat.
>> We used Dupont Chromabase, which is a high quality paint with Nason (lower
>> cost Dupont product) primers underneath.  Just the material cost was about
>> $1500.  You didn't say how much Maaco was going to charge you, but I would
>> be asking lots of questions if it's not at least a couple thousand.
>> 
>> I have heard stories about good shops that have the "cheap" shop names, and
>> yours could be one of them.  They are indeed all different.
>> 
>> Good luck!
>> Tom
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:05 PM, James_ <jattr6 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > I need a fresh paint job.
>> >
>> > Single stage or base coat/clear coat?
>> >
>> > I found a local guy who works on all sorts of classic cars. He wants to do
>> > a
>> > single stage urethane and needs several months to sand, a few rust repairs
>> > and
>> > paint.
>> > $7500
>> > Alternatively...
>> >
>> > My neighbor saw a tr4 getting painting at ... Wait for it...Maaco.
>> > So I paid them a visit. They have loads of classics and newer cars they are
>> > painting, restoring, rust repair etc. It was actually quite impressive.
>> > Most
>> > finished products had been delivered but a couple cars were still there. On
>> > one such car I could see some dust specks in the paint but it was an
>> > impressive job overall.
>> > Now, Maaco has always been synonymous with ... Well ... Crappy work.
>> > Additionally, they suggest clear coat/base coat.
>> >
>> > So what do folks think about which paint method and will Maaco's work
>> > really
>> > hold up and be good? Guess it is just paint and the important bit is the
>> > prep
>> > work. And gets down to the shop. One Maaco may be rubbish while the one I
>> > visited my have great
>> > Craftsmen.
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