[6pack] TR5 and TR250

Jim Jones jimjcmo at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 16 13:15:54 MST 2013


True that. MY dad had a 1970 Sedan de Ville with the Caddy 472 V8. I never
knew what its numbers were, but that was a torque beast. Hard to imagine the
emissions that car produced.

Jim Jones

Jones Beltone Hearing and Audiology

Jefferson City, MO

--- On Wed, 1/16/13, Ashford Little <70tr6 at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Ashford Little <70tr6 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR5 and TR250
To: "Sally or Dick Taylor" <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "John Cyganowski" <janah at att.net>, "6pack at autox.team.net"
<6pack at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2013, 1:41 PM

Yeah, hard to imagine a 440 6-Pack would pass even a gas station... not to
mention almost any other big block motor in the US.

My first "car" was actually a yacht of the land variety.  1971 Mercury
Marquis.  Oh yeah, I forgot to mention my father ordered it with the 429ci
Mach One motor.  Pass an emissions test.  Yeah right.

Ashford Little
70tr6 at comcast.net



On Jan 16, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Sally or Dick Taylor <taylorturbo6 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> John makes a good point. In 1968 the US were selling muscle cars with big
> cams, multi carbs and high compression. These faced no government
restrictions
> until later on.
>
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: John Cyganowski
> <janah at att.net>
>> To: 6pack at autox.team.net
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013
> 5:27 AM
>> Subject: [6pack] TR5 and TR250
>>
>> In my humble opinion, the
> emmissions thing is a fable that was published a
>> long time ago and has become
> accepted fact.  First, in 1967 there was no EPA.
>> EPA was begun in 1970 under
> President Nixon. Car emmisson standards (the
>> little that they had) came under
> the Department of Health Education and
>> Welfare (HEW). Oh for the days when
> government was not so bloated.
>>
>> I think the PI system needed altitude
> compensation in the US. This would have
>> cost more. But I don't think the PI
> system could not be tuned. That is what
>> fuel injection is all about -
> delivering the right amount of fuel at the right
>> time.
>>
>> The issue was
> sales.  McWilliam nixed anything he thought would be a
>> distraction to sales.
> The home market was small. The home market had troubles
>> with the PI system,
> but the number of cars produced for that market was small,
>> so the problems
> were managable. The North American Market by comparison was
>> huge. McWilliams
> just did not want those issues. He was right.
>>
>> John Cyg.
>>
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