From auprichard at uprichard.net  Thu Nov  1 16:00:57 2012
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (Andrew Uprichard)
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 18:00:57 -0400
Subject: [6pack] So what IS a TR worth?
Message-ID: <00f601cdb87c$603d7bb0$20b87310$@uprichard.net>

Lists:

 

My cousin, Darryl, sent me the attachment below.  I am forwarding it out of
interest in what we really think our cars are worth.  Please be advised I
have no financial interest whatsoever in Racetorations.

 

I see two small-mouth TR3s for sale in Hemmings:  $37, 900 and $47,900 !!
Of course, the asking price is very different from what one actually gets
for a car.  Two years ago I sold a fast-road TR3 to a guy in Europe for
$44,000, but I had to ship it over and it ended up a push.  I have a friend
with a nice TR6 - refreshed, not restored, but no obvious issues.  What
should he expect to get for it ?  I have a TR3B with 8 years and 16,000
miles on it from restoration.  Everything seems to be fine and it drives and
looks great.  I was asked what I wanted for it.  It's not for sale, but what
if it were?

 

So, if anyone has time to kill, fill in the blanks below:

TR6 -  refreshed  - no obvious issues

??

 

TR3 -  restored  8 years - everything seems great

??

 

Small-mouth TR3 - new restoration - everything restored / replaced

??

 

Andrew Uprichard

www.motorcarinvestor.com/racetorations-its-all-about-trs/

From fietts02 at aol.com  Mon Nov  5 20:12:50 2012
From: fietts02 at aol.com (fietts02 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 22:12:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Amco Console
Message-ID: <26a53.2211e494.3dc9da32@aol.com>

I am looking for pictures of an original Amco console for TR6 installed in  
a car.  Also Does anyone have a BL accessory brochure that shows the Amco  
console and the varies options available for it such as, clock, light. 
speaker  etc??
Ken

From forzion7 at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 08:09:23 2012
From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:09:23 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Amco Console
In-Reply-To: <26a53.2211e494.3dc9da32@aol.com>
References: <26a53.2211e494.3dc9da32@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1eQwgh4chU9N8ycJnotw2ceHnbkK7seOe37rXia1T12O8tfA@mail.gmail.com>

Ken;

Check out http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html

Dave
'74 Six w/OD and TBI



On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:12 PM, <fietts02 at aol.com> wrote:

> I am looking for pictures of an original Amco console for TR6 installed in
> a car.  Also Does anyone have a BL accessory brochure that shows the Amco
> console and the varies options available for it such as, clock, light.
> speaker  etc??
> Ken
>
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From fietts02 at aol.com  Tue Nov  6 08:31:36 2012
From: fietts02 at aol.com (fietts02 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:31:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Amco Console
Message-ID: <24f48.590cb426.3dca8758@aol.com>

Dave,
Thanks for your reply these are repro with some slight modifications. I  
have seen these and they are exceptional. I a looking for the other variation  
made of to 72 but that fit the 250/4/6/ It was a one piece design with a 
lighter  and ash try. It was also made by Amco. any suggestions on finding 
photo of  it.
 
In a message dated 11/6/2012 10:09:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
forzion7 at gmail.com writes:

Ken;

Check out _http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html_ 
(http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html) 

Dave
'74  Six w/OD and TBI



On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:12 PM, <_fietts02 at aol.com_ 
(mailto:fietts02 at aol.com) > wrote:

I am looking for pictures of an original Amco console for  TR6 installed in
a car.  Also Does anyone have a BL accessory  brochure that shows the Amco
console and the varies options available for  it such as, clock, light.
speaker  etc??
Ken

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From forzion7 at gmail.com  Tue Nov  6 08:59:57 2012
From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:59:57 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Amco Console
In-Reply-To: <24f48.590cb426.3dca8758@aol.com>
References: <24f48.590cb426.3dca8758@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1eQwhVf_j5EBjR8xWUtwXr2epp9jq+dg0HCOrFzT8ytsiJSA@mail.gmail.com>

Ken;

Any photos here work for you?

*http://tinyurl.com/byrdatz

*Dave*


*
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:31 AM, <fietts02 at aol.com> wrote:

> **
> Dave,
> Thanks for your reply these are repro with some slight modifications. I
> have seen these and they are exceptional. I a looking for the other
> variation made of to 72 but that fit the 250/4/6/ It was a one piece design
> with a lighter and ash try. It was also made by Amco. any suggestions on
> finding photo of it.
>  In a message dated 11/6/2012 10:09:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> forzion7 at gmail.com writes:
>
> Ken;
>
> Check out http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html
>
> Dave
> '74 Six w/OD and TBI
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:12 PM, <fietts02 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking for pictures of an original Amco console for TR6 installed in
>> a car.  Also Does anyone have a BL accessory brochure that shows the Amco
>> console and the varies options available for it such as, clock, light.
>> speaker  etc??
>> Ken
>>
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>>
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From sothornton at stevethorntonlaw.com  Tue Nov  6 14:31:36 2012
From: sothornton at stevethorntonlaw.com (Steve Thornton)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:31:36 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Amco Console
Message-ID: <894814762C6AC84896B8CC3C72CDD2BB018546AD@SOTSERVER.stevethorntonlaw.local>

Ken et al-


I have enjoyed reading this thread on TR consoles. Having taken several
longer trips in a TR6 and a TR 250, I often wondered why someone had not
developed an aftermarket console. To my surprise and pleasure, Harry
Beeker has done exactly what I thought was worthy of someone's time and
energy. His web site has lots of pictures of his product, which seem to
show a great reproduction of a useful period accessory.

Thanks for sharing the info.

Merry Christmas to ME, just early!


Steven O. Thornton
Attorney at Law
1011 Lehman Avenue
Suite 102
Bowling Green, KY   42103

270-781-6630


-----Original Message-----
From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of David Friedlander
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 10:00 AM
To: fietts02 at aol.com
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Amco Console

Ken;

Any photos here work for you?

*http://tinyurl.com/byrdatz

*Dave*


*
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:31 AM, <fietts02 at aol.com> wrote:

> **
> Dave,
> Thanks for your reply these are repro with some slight modifications.
> I have seen these and they are exceptional. I a looking for the other
> variation made of to 72 but that fit the 250/4/6/ It was a one piece
> design with a lighter and ash try. It was also made by Amco. any
> suggestions on finding photo of it.
>  In a message dated 11/6/2012 10:09:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> forzion7 at gmail.com writes:
>
> Ken;
>
> Check out http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html
>
> Dave
> '74 Six w/OD and TBI
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 10:12 PM, <fietts02 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I am looking for pictures of an original Amco console for TR6
>> installed in a car.  Also Does anyone have a BL accessory brochure
>> that shows the Amco console and the varies options available for it
such as, clock, light.
>> speaker  etc??
>> Ken
>>
>> ________________________________________
>>
>> 6pack at autox.team.net
>>
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From dwaldorf at cinci.rr.com  Tue Nov  6 21:03:11 2012
From: dwaldorf at cinci.rr.com (Dave Waldorf)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 23:03:11 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Amco Console (fietts02@aol.com)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.22.1352228404.1759.6pack@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <E5526458B15E48958540412E97F4622E@DavePC>

Ken,

The one piece console was made for the TR4 & TR4A.  The TR6 AMCO console was
a 2 piece affair with a Kienzle clock instead of a lighter and ash tray.
The TR6 & TR250 already had an ash tray (& a lighter was an easy install
in-dash--both of mine have one), which would be redundant if one was in the
console as well.  Instead you got an electric clock that exactly matched the
dash gauges motif.

According to my accessories brochure it was possible to buy just the
rear/armrest section, or the whole thing.  If the whole unit was installed
it looked nearly identical to the TR4 one-piece unit, except for the clock &
it's mounting boss (of course) and the lack of contrasting piping on the
armrest.

I have one of the originals that came in a 1972 parts car.  They're VERY
flimsy, and were very expensive (IMHO) for what you got.

--Dave Waldorf

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of 6pack-request at autox.team.net


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:31:36 -0500 (EST)
From: fietts02 at aol.com
To: forzion7 at gmail.com
Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Amco Console
Message-ID: <24f48.590cb426.3dca8758 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Dave,
Thanks for your reply these are repro with some slight modifications. I
have seen these and they are exceptional. I a looking for the other
variation
made of to 72 but that fit the 250/4/6/ It was a one piece design with a
lighter  and ash try. It was also made by Amco. any suggestions on finding
photo of  it.

In a message dated 11/6/2012 10:09:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
forzion7 at gmail.com writes:

Ken;

Check out _http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html_
(http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html)

Dave
'74  Six w/OD and TBI

From glemon at neb.rr.com  Tue Nov  6 22:26:38 2012
From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 5:26:38 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Amco Console (fietts02@aol.com)
In-Reply-To: <E5526458B15E48958540412E97F4622E@DavePC>
Message-ID: <20121107052638.C2T9O.9358.root@hrndva-web15-z01>

Dave, I don't know much about the Amco consoles, but the 4As all had ashtrays too, in the middle of the wood dash instead of on top as on the 6 cylinder cars.  It was made of Bakelite and had a tendency to fall out and eventually get lost, leaving an unsightly hole in the dash.  Years ago you couldn't get a reproduction and had to scrounge to find a used one.  Not sure if you can get them new now.

Greg Lemon

---- Dave Waldorf <dwaldorf at cinci.rr.com> wrote: 
> Ken,
> 
> The one piece console was made for the TR4 & TR4A.  The TR6 AMCO console was
> a 2 piece affair with a Kienzle clock instead of a lighter and ash tray.
> The TR6 & TR250 already had an ash tray (& a lighter was an easy install
> in-dash--both of mine have one), which would be redundant if one was in the
> console as well.  Instead you got an electric clock that exactly matched the
> dash gauges motif.
> 
> According to my accessories brochure it was possible to buy just the
> rear/armrest section, or the whole thing.  If the whole unit was installed
> it looked nearly identical to the TR4 one-piece unit, except for the clock &
> it's mounting boss (of course) and the lack of contrasting piping on the
> armrest.
> 
> I have one of the originals that came in a 1972 parts car.  They're VERY
> flimsy, and were very expensive (IMHO) for what you got.
> 
> --Dave Waldorf
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of 6pack-request at autox.team.net
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:31:36 -0500 (EST)
> From: fietts02 at aol.com
> To: forzion7 at gmail.com
> Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Amco Console
> Message-ID: <24f48.590cb426.3dca8758 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Dave,
> Thanks for your reply these are repro with some slight modifications. I
> have seen these and they are exceptional. I a looking for the other
> variation
> made of to 72 but that fit the 250/4/6/ It was a one piece design with a
> lighter  and ash try. It was also made by Amco. any suggestions on finding
> photo of  it.
> 
> In a message dated 11/6/2012 10:09:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> forzion7 at gmail.com writes:
> 
> Ken;
> 
> Check out _http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html_
> (http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html)
> 
> Dave
> '74  Six w/OD and TBI
> 
> ________________________________________
> 
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From glemon at neb.rr.com  Tue Nov  6 22:58:11 2012
From: glemon at neb.rr.com (glemon at neb.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 5:58:11 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Amco Console (fietts02@aol.com)
Message-ID: <20121107055811.RSWXT.9404.root@hrndva-web15-z01>

Dave, I don't know much about the Amco consoles, but the 4As all had ashtrays too, in the middle of the wood dash instead of on top as on the 6 cylinder cars.  It was made of Bakelite and had a tendency to fall out and eventually get lost, leaving an unsightly hole in the dash.  Years ago you couldn't get a reproduction and had to scrounge to find a used one.  Not sure if you can get them new now.

Greg Lemon

---- Dave Waldorf <dwaldorf at cinci.rr.com> wrote: 
> Ken,
> 
> The one piece console was made for the TR4 & TR4A.  The TR6 AMCO console was
> a 2 piece affair with a Kienzle clock instead of a lighter and ash tray.
> The TR6 & TR250 already had an ash tray (& a lighter was an easy install
> in-dash--both of mine have one), which would be redundant if one was in the
> console as well.  Instead you got an electric clock that exactly matched the
> dash gauges motif.
> 
> According to my accessories brochure it was possible to buy just the
> rear/armrest section, or the whole thing.  If the whole unit was installed
> it looked nearly identical to the TR4 one-piece unit, except for the clock &
> it's mounting boss (of course) and the lack of contrasting piping on the
> armrest.
> 
> I have one of the originals that came in a 1972 parts car.  They're VERY
> flimsy, and were very expensive (IMHO) for what you got.
> 
> --Dave Waldorf
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of 6pack-request at autox.team.net
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:31:36 -0500 (EST)
> From: fietts02 at aol.com
> To: forzion7 at gmail.com
> Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Amco Console
> Message-ID: <24f48.590cb426.3dca8758 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Dave,
> Thanks for your reply these are repro with some slight modifications. I
> have seen these and they are exceptional. I a looking for the other
> variation
> made of to 72 but that fit the 250/4/6/ It was a one piece design with a
> lighter  and ash try. It was also made by Amco. any suggestions on finding
> photo of  it.
> 
> In a message dated 11/6/2012 10:09:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> forzion7 at gmail.com writes:
> 
> Ken;
> 
> Check out _http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html_
> (http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html)
> 
> Dave
> '74  Six w/OD and TBI
> 
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> 
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From fietts02 at aol.com  Wed Nov  7 07:16:57 2012
From: fietts02 at aol.com (fietts02 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 09:16:57 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Amco Console (fietts02@aol.com)
Message-ID: <30477.33a586ce.3dcbc759@aol.com>

Dave,
Thanks for the great info. I believe that the one piece was made  as and an 
option until 1972 and so sold continually until the 2  piece unit was 
produced  which would make it also correct for the Tr6.  Atleast that is what I 
uncovered in some of my research. The TR4 also had an  ashtray on the dash so 
the additional tray would be correct.. I  have found  a one piece unit and  
it appears to be original. It has not been altered,  but the armrest is 
covered to match the seat design pattern as with the  TR  4 with piping. I am 
thinking that you could order one of two versions to match  your model since 
all other dimensions are identical.
 
Ken
 
 
In a message dated 11/6/2012 11:21:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
dwaldorf at cinci.rr.com writes:

Ken,

The one piece console was made for the TR4 &  TR4A.  The TR6 AMCO console 
was
a 2 piece affair with a Kienzle clock  instead of a lighter and ash tray.
The TR6 & TR250 already had an ash  tray (& a lighter was an easy install
in-dash--both of mine have one),  which would be redundant if one was in the
console as well.  Instead  you got an electric clock that exactly matched 
the
dash gauges  motif.

According to my accessories brochure it was possible to buy just  the
rear/armrest section, or the whole thing.  If the whole unit was  installed
it looked nearly identical to the TR4 one-piece unit, except for  the clock 
&
it's mounting boss (of course) and the lack of contrasting  piping on the
armrest.

I have one of the originals that came in a  1972 parts car.  They're VERY
flimsy, and were very expensive (IMHO)  for what you got.

--Dave Waldorf

-----Original  Message-----
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Behalf Of  6pack-request at autox.team.net


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Message:  3
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 10:31:36 -0500 (EST)
From:  fietts02 at aol.com
To: forzion7 at gmail.com
Cc:  6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Amco Console
Message-ID:  <24f48.590cb426.3dca8758 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"

Dave,
Thanks for your reply these are repro with  some slight modifications. I
have seen these and they are exceptional. I a  looking for the other
variation
made of to 72 but that fit the 250/4/6/  It was a one piece design with a
lighter  and ash try. It was also  made by Amco. any suggestions on finding
photo of  it.

In a  message dated 11/6/2012 10:09:24 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
forzion7 at gmail.com writes:

Ken;

Check out  _http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html_
(http://triumphconsoles.com/index.html)

Dave
'74   Six w/OD and  TBI

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From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca  Thu Nov  8 07:29:37 2012
From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 06:29:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
Message-ID: <1352384977.37682.YahooMailNeo@web121605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Page 40 of The Triumph TR5/250/6 Companion has a b/w of a 250 center
console.   Interesting 250 Accessories list shows std console at $49,  deluxe
at $80.  American Racing wheels @ 60.00!
 
My JC Whitney center console, while
not as cool as having an original or one of the nice looking repros,  is
sturdy,  looks okay, functional and a good price.   Big thing is a comfortable
right arm when you're cruising and a handy compartment to put stuff.
 
Bruce
Simms
73 TR6

From sakirsis at consolidated.net  Thu Nov  8 09:04:56 2012
From: sakirsis at consolidated.net (kirsis stephen)
Date: Thu,  8 Nov 2012 11:04:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Fwd: Re:JC Whitney Center Console
Message-ID: <201211081604.060008@ms01.consolidated.net>

---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu,  8 Nov 2012 11:01:31 -0500 (EST)
>From: kirsis stephen <sakirsis at consolidated.net>  
>Subject: Fwd: Re:JC Whitney Center Console  
>To: 6pack at autox.com
>
>
>
>---- Original message ----
>>Date: Thu,  8 Nov 2012 10:56:47 -0500 (EST)
>>From: kirsis stephen <sakirsis at consolidated.net>  
>>Subject: Re:JC Whitney Center Console  
>>To: "Bruce Simms" <brucesimns2003 at yahoo.ca>
>>
>>Have they up-graded the hinges on the JC Whitney console? I bought one a 
few 
>>years back and it was broken at the plastic hinges in a matter of days. Tried 
to 
>put 
>>a snap on the front so it could not slide side ways when any side pressure 
was 
>>applied i.e when either passenger or driver entered the car. Did not work. 
>Stronger 
>>hinges were definitely needed. I ended up tossing it. If it was seated in the 
>storage 
>>bin would be even nice but it just laid on top and very subject to side 
pressure. 
>>Combine that with 1/4" plastic hinges and you end up with a piece of junk.

From hrmcaleer at bellsouth.net  Thu Nov  8 15:48:30 2012
From: hrmcaleer at bellsouth.net (Hugh R McAleer)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 17:48:30 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
In-Reply-To: <1352384977.37682.YahooMailNeo@web121605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1352384977.37682.YahooMailNeo@web121605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50C3EAB516EB44DEBD1E91B3DEE73436@FoxconnPC>

I have a GT6 center console in my 250 and it fits my needs well.  Your 
results may vary.
H
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From glemon at neb.rr.com  Thu Nov  8 19:29:03 2012
From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 20:29:03 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
In-Reply-To: <1352384977.37682.YahooMailNeo@web121605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1352384977.37682.YahooMailNeo@web121605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8CECF30068FB48158C075D53226A2FE5@GregPC>

Can someone provide a little more information on the JC Whitney Center 
Console?  I went online, but wasn't able to figure out exactly what people 
are referring to.

Thanks, Greg Lemon
68 TR25TR250

From sakirsis at consolidated.net  Thu Nov  8 20:02:44 2012
From: sakirsis at consolidated.net (kirsis stephen)
Date: Thu,  8 Nov 2012 22:02:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Fwd: Re:JC Whitney Center Console
In-Reply-To: <183b3.101fe84d.3dcdb182@aol.com>
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Let me forward. My message was on your message. See if it gets through. Just said 
I was not happy with the JC Penny console I bought 2 or 3 years ago. Very poor 
plastic hinges, just 2 of them and the cover did not seat into the storage area. If 
there was any lateral pressure applied to the cover i.e getting in and out of the car 
or reaching back to gather something from the jump seat, the plastic hinges would 
snap. After 2 glue jobs and no response from customer service, I trashed the whole 
console. It did fit nicely in my six and with better low cost construction would have 
been nice.
Steve Kirsis, '70 and 75 TR6's 

From sakirsis at consolidated.net  Thu Nov  8 20:53:01 2012
From: sakirsis at consolidated.net (kirsis stephen)
Date: Thu,  8 Nov 2012 22:53:01 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] (no subject)
Message-ID: <201211090353.060007@ms01.consolidated.net>

Meant JC Whitney, not Penny.

From Timbo00001 at aol.com  Thu Nov  8 22:17:31 2012
From: Timbo00001 at aol.com (Timbo00001 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 00:17:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Fwd: Re:JC Whitney Center Console
Message-ID: <23dd4.16a57d30.3dcdebeb@aol.com>

J.C. Penney?
 
 
In a message dated 11/8/2012 10:31:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sakirsis at consolidated.net writes:

Let me  forward. My message was on your message. See if it gets through. 
Just said  
I was not happy with the JC Penny console I bought 2 or 3 years ago. Very  
poor 
plastic hinges, just 2 of them and the cover did not seat into the  storage 
area. If 
there was any lateral pressure applied to the cover i.e  getting in and out 
of the car 
or reaching back to gather something from  the jump seat, the plastic 
hinges would 
snap. After 2 glue jobs and no  response from customer service, I trashed 
the whole 
console. It did fit  nicely in my six and with better low cost construction 
would have 
been  nice.
Steve Kirsis, '70 and 75 TR6's  

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From lfm614 at aol.com  Fri Nov  9 06:11:34 2012
From: lfm614 at aol.com (Lfmaol)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 07:11:34 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
In-Reply-To: <8CECF30068FB48158C075D53226A2FE5@GregPC>
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	<8CECF30068FB48158C075D53226A2FE5@GregPC>
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Here is what it looks like in a TR6, there happens to be one on sale on e-bay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aftermarket-interior-console-/300813088863?hash=item4
609db785f&item=300813088863&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr
I am sure that if JCW still carries it and you search for center console at
JCW it will pop up on the search.   I bought one over 4 years ago and still
use it, it works great for me.

Lou

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 8, 2012, at 8:29 PM, "Greg Lemon" <glemon at neb.rr.com> wrote:

> Can someone provide a little more information on the JC Whitney Center
Console?  I went online, but wasn't able to figure out exactly what people are
referring to.
>
> Thanks, Greg Lemon
> 68 TR25TR250
>
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From sakirsis at consolidated.net  Fri Nov  9 08:42:46 2012
From: sakirsis at consolidated.net (kirsis stephen)
Date: Fri,  9 Nov 2012 10:42:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
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	<8CECF30068FB48158C075D53226A2FE5@GregPC>
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Lou, Does yours have just the 2 plastic hinges on the rear of the cover to lift it up 
from the front?. Also is the top seated or recessed in the storage area  so there can 
be no lateral movement if elbow bumped or used for leverage to get in or out of 
the car? It is a good looking console and mine did fit nicely by sliding over the 
transmission cover without any need for drilling or screws. Just snapped the hinges 
with very little side pressure. If they have made the improvements I would buy 
another.  
Steve Kirsis

From lfm614 at aol.com  Fri Nov  9 09:21:48 2012
From: lfm614 at aol.com (lfm614 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 16:21:48 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
Message-ID: <1117520238-1352478111-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-672867191-@b17.c20.bise6.blackberry>

Yes plastic hinges opens from the back. Flat top as in the eBay link pictures I sent. 

I have not had any problems with the hinges but I also do not put any lateral force on the top getting in and out of the car. 

Mine just slides into place between the seats snug and can be lifted out in seconds for shows etc. if needed.  

Think it was around $30-$35 when I bought it. Happy with it specially considering the investment.  

If you still have the old one I would think you could replace the hinges to metal or put a piano hinge across the back bought at the local hardware store. 

Lou
------Original Message------
From: kirsis stephen
To: Lfmaol
Cc: TR-6 list
Subject: Re: [6pack] Center Console
Sent: Nov 9, 2012 9:42 AM

Lou, Does yours have just the 2 plastic hinges on the rear of the cover to lift it up 
from the front?. Also is the top seated or recessed in the storage area  so there can 
be no lateral movement if elbow bumped or used for leverage to get in or out of 
the car? It is a good looking console and mine did fit nicely by sliding over the 
transmission cover without any need for drilling or screws. Just snapped the hinges 
with very little side pressure. If they have made the improvements I would buy 
another.  
Steve Kirsis

From dcmdcm at nc.rr.com  Fri Nov  9 19:50:31 2012
From: dcmdcm at nc.rr.com (Douglas Morris)
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 21:50:31 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
Message-ID: <8C44B897-9ACF-4DB8-A603-981867387D7D@nc.rr.com>

I've had the JCWhitney center console (arm rest with stowage compartment) for
about three years.
The arm rest makes driving quite comfortable.
Yes, the plastic hinges broke, so I replaced 'em with a piano hinge.
Yes, the lid slides back and forth (since there's no alignment ridge), so I
added a couple of aluminum slats under the lid which keep it from shifting.
Yes, the vinyl arm rest gets all slippery sweaty from my forearm in the heat,
so I re-covered it with a suede material.
Yes, the screws which attach the plastic box to the metal mounting frame
pulled through.
Yes, it's a POS; but I haven't given up on it.
I plan to replace the plastic box with a plywood box, make a good lid with a
lock (for handgun storage when I pop into the post office and stuff), and add
a lidded trash compartment behind (wind blows empty cigar wrappers out of my
open trash can behind the pax seat).
Sooo, other than that 

Doug Morris, NC

From lfm614 at aol.com  Fri Nov  9 21:05:21 2012
From: lfm614 at aol.com (lfm614 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:05:21 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
Message-ID: <361527945-1352520323-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1560140432-@b17.c20.bise6.blackberry>

Man you guys are tough on consoles, mine is still like new after 3 years.   


------Original Message------
From: Douglas Morris
Sender: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net
To: TR-6 list
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
Sent: Nov 9, 2012 8:50 PM

I've had the JCWhitney center console (arm rest with stowage compartment) for
about three years.
The arm rest makes driving quite comfortable.
Yes, the plastic hinges broke, so I replaced 'em with a piano hinge.
Yes, the lid slides back and forth (since there's no alignment ridge), so I
added a couple of aluminum slats under the lid which keep it from shifting.
Yes, the vinyl arm rest gets all slippery sweaty from my forearm in the heat,
so I re-covered it with a suede material.
Yes, the screws which attach the plastic box to the metal mounting frame
pulled through.
Yes, it's a POS; but I haven't given up on it.
I plan to replace the plastic box with a plywood box, make a good lid with a
lock (for handgun storage when I pop into the post office and stuff), and add
a lidded trash compartment behind (wind blows empty cigar wrappers out of my
open trash can behind the pax seat).
Sooo, other than that 

Doug Morris, NC

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From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Nov 10 18:05:37 2012
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 19:05:37 -0600
Subject: [6pack] master clutch cylinder
Message-ID: <6D1F8D7EE8724D32AC26D8C447658EAF@Datsun>

its actually for a 75 spitfire but I believe the parts are very similar

I need an exploded diagram for a master clutch cylinder.

thanks!

From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Nov 10 21:05:01 2012
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:05:01 -0600
Subject: [6pack] clutch master diagram
Message-ID: <91E1A0B583584526B75A6094A0C01748@Datsun>

found one.  thank you. . .

From fietts02 at aol.com  Sat Nov 10 22:00:56 2012
From: fietts02 at aol.com (fietts02 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 00:00:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Center Console-Amco
Message-ID: <46234.2dc790e6.3dd08b08@aol.com>

I think I have opened up a can of worms from my original post about  
consoles. The topic has move slightly away from my questions but the threads  have 
provided some good knowledge. Thanks to everyone.
My questions was only referring to the original AMCO option for the  
TR4/250/6. I am looking for an pictures of a one piece and an original two piece  
installed on a car. I have seen the ones built (repro) by Triumph consoles. 
They  are excellent and a better quality then the original. I would also be  
interested  in seeing a period accessory brochure that shows any options  
for the console. I have seen in the past one that says standard and one that  
says deluxe. What is the difference? Mine has all the standard items, ash 
tray,  lighter but also has a rear interior light on it. Is this a deluxe  
option??
Ken
 
 
In a message dated 11/8/2012 9:57:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
glemon at neb.rr.com writes:

Can  someone provide a little more information on the JC Whitney Center  
Console?  I went online, but wasn't able to figure out exactly what  people 
are referring to.

Thanks, Greg Lemon
68  TR25TR250

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From tr_man at comcast.net  Mon Nov 12 09:39:17 2012
From: tr_man at comcast.net (tr_man at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:39:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
In-Reply-To: <361527945-1352520323-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1560140432-@b17.c20.bise6.blackberry>
Message-ID: <1777399138.59709.1352738357162.JavaMail.root@sz0077a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I put a couple of strips of velcro under the lid to keep it from slipping
side-to-side and breaking the hinges.B  Works fairly well.B 



Also, I attached a fold-up plastic cup holder (from Walmart) to the front
vertical face of the console.B  Works well and doesn't get inB the way too
much when shifting. B 



----- Original Message -----


From: lfm614 at aol.com
To: "Douglas Morris" <dcmdcm at nc.rr.com>, 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net, "TR-6
list" <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 10:05:21 PM
Subject: Re: [6pack] Center Console

Man you guys are tough on consoles, mine is still like new after 3 years. B 


------Original Message------
From: Douglas Morris
Sender: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net
To: TR-6 list
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
Sent: Nov 9, 2012 8:50 PM

I've had the JCWhitney center console (arm rest with stowage compartment) for
about three years.
The arm rest makes driving quite comfortable.
Yes, the plastic hinges broke, so I replaced 'em with a piano hinge.
Yes, the lid slides back and forth (since there's no alignment ridge), so I
added a couple of aluminum slats under the lid which keep it from shifting.
Yes, the vinyl arm rest gets all slippery sweaty from my forearm in the heat,
so I re-covered it with a suede material.
Yes, the screws which attach the plastic box to the metal mounting frame
pulled through.
Yes, it's a POS; but I haven't given up on it.
I plan to replace the plastic box with a plywood box, make a good lid with a
lock (for handgun storage when I pop into the post office and stuff), and add
a lidded trash compartment behind (wind blows empty cigar wrappers out of my
open trash can behind the pax seat).
Sooo, other than that

Doug Morris, NC

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From stan.foster at hp.com  Mon Nov 12 20:58:41 2012
From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan (HP IT))
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:58:41 +0000
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
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References: <361527945-1352520323-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1560140432-@b17.c20.bise6.blackberry>
	<1777399138.59709.1352738357162.JavaMail.root@sz0077a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A048F19A074BE54BA1D9E4B8A2A7D88B35FA2966@G1W3650.americas.hpqcorp.net>

Here is my arm rest (JC Whitney version) with power outlets and cup holders
together with an additional fold up cup holder on the passenger side, mounted
on a home-made bracket and tucked in behind the dash support leg.

http://tinyurl.com/cv8v26j

Seats are Miata of course and this configuration has held up well surviving
many long distance trips.

Stan

From wcwellbaum at cox.net  Mon Nov 12 21:13:05 2012
From: wcwellbaum at cox.net (Bill Wellbaum)
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:13:05 -0800
Subject: [6pack] Electronic Ignition systems
Message-ID: <A776BBC9CC0242A9805C13A9AD6FAF48@office>

I almost dread asking this question (think best oil, best tires) but I really
need to know the consensus on the best brand of electronic ignition system to
install in my '75 TR-6.  I had a Crane system leave me stranded on the side of
the road years ago and have been running points ever since.  I'm ready to put
my toe in the water again and try one out.  What is out there-and seems to
give the best overall service?

Bill Wellbaum
British Auto Club of Las Vegas
Check out our award winning website at www.baclv.org

From lists at brits-n-pieces.com  Tue Nov 13 01:21:36 2012
From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (lists)
Date: 13 Nov 2012 09:21:36 +0100
Subject: [6pack] Electronic Ignition systems
Message-ID: <20121113082148.291B53200264@dd12314.kasserver.com>

Bill,

if it comes out to a 123ignition (most sophisticated system imho), which is not readily available, have a look at

http://brits-n-pieces.com/shop/product_info.php/info/p7296

We do a conversion of the original 22D6 Lucas distributor to the electronic 123ignition (or 123\TUNE, if you like). I'll not throw in my 2 ct here because my opinion will not be seen as an objective opinion.

Eric
Brits 'n' Pieces

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Von	Bill Wellbaum [wcwellbaum at cox.net]	
An	6pack[6pack at autox.team.net]	
CC		
Datum	13.11.2012 05:27:35	
Betreff	[6pack] Electronic Ignition systems	
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
I almost dread asking this question (think best oil, best tires) but I really
need to know the consensus on the best brand of electronic ignition system to
install in my '75 TR-6.  I had a Crane system leave me stranded on the side of
the road years ago and have been running points ever since.  I'm ready to put
my toe in the water again and try one out.  What is out there-and seems to
give the best overall service?

Bill Wellbaum
British Auto Club of Las Vegas
Check out our award winning website at www.baclv.org

From auprichard at uprichard.net  Tue Nov 13 05:31:38 2012
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (Andrew Uprichard)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:31:38 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Electronic Ignition systems
In-Reply-To: <20121113082148.291B53200264@dd12314.kasserver.com>
References: <20121113082148.291B53200264@dd12314.kasserver.com>
Message-ID: <00e301cdc19a$d4f235a0$7ed6a0e0$@uprichard.net>

I put a 123 ignition in my TR3 and a second unit in my TR250.  Apart from
having to adapt the tachometer to accept an electrical input, it was a very
straightforward procedure which I did myself.

Andrew Uprichard

-----Original Message-----
From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of lists
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 3:22 AM
To: Bill Wellbaum
Cc: 6pack
Subject: Re: [6pack] Electronic Ignition systems

Bill,

if it comes out to a 123ignition (most sophisticated system imho), which is
not readily available, have a look at

http://brits-n-pieces.com/shop/product_info.php/info/p7296

We do a conversion of the original 22D6 Lucas distributor to the electronic
123ignition (or 123\TUNE, if you like). I'll not throw in my 2 ct here
because my opinion will not be seen as an objective opinion.

Eric
Brits 'n' Pieces

bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
bbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Von	Bill Wellbaum [wcwellbaum at cox.net]
An	6pack[6pack at autox.team.net]
CC
Datum	13.11.2012 05:27:35
Betreff	[6pack] Electronic Ignition systems
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
bbbbbbbbbbbbbb
I almost dread asking this question (think best oil, best tires) but I
really need to know the consensus on the best brand of electronic ignition
system to install in my '75 TR-6.  I had a Crane system leave me stranded on
the side of the road years ago and have been running points ever since.  I'm
ready to put my toe in the water again and try one out.  What is out
there-and seems to give the best overall service?

Bill Wellbaum
British Auto Club of Las Vegas
Check out our award winning website at www.baclv.org

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From sakirsis at consolidated.net  Tue Nov 13 05:39:31 2012
From: sakirsis at consolidated.net (kirsis stephen)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:39:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Electronic Ignition systems
In-Reply-To: <A776BBC9CC0242A9805C13A9AD6FAF48@office>
References: <A776BBC9CC0242A9805C13A9AD6FAF48@office>
Message-ID: <201211131239.060009@ms01.consolidated.net>

For me it is Petronix. Simple and reliable. On both my 6's for years.
Steve Kirsis '70 6 and '75 6.

From aljlthomson at charter.net  Tue Nov 13 05:49:12 2012
From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:49:12 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Electronic Ignition systems
In-Reply-To: <A776BBC9CC0242A9805C13A9AD6FAF48@office>
References: <A776BBC9CC0242A9805C13A9AD6FAF48@office>
Message-ID: <000f01cdc19d$47f27270$d7d75750$@charter.net>

The Crane XR700 installed by a previous owner in our GT6 MK3 has performed
without any problems for at least 5 years. We tried a Pertronix in our TR6
but it burned out, leaving us on the side of the road (we were able to coast
1/2 mile of the 1 1/2 miles back home). Pertronix replaced the unit with no
question but that one failed as well. As it turned out, I think the unit was
being fed with the reduced voltage from the ballast wire rather than the
full 12 volts that it needs. I can't fault Pertronix for that. The TR6 has
been back on points for the last 3500 miles. I may try electronic ignition
in it again.

Alex Thomson

-----Original Message-----
From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Bill Wellbaum
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:13 PM
To: 6pack
Subject: [6pack] Electronic Ignition systems

I almost dread asking this question (think best oil, best tires) but I
really need to know the consensus on the best brand of electronic ignition
system to install in my '75 TR-6.  I had a Crane system leave me stranded on
the side of the road years ago and have been running points ever since.  I'm
ready to put my toe in the water again and try one out.  What is out
there-and seems to give the best overall service?

Bill Wellbaum
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From mhooper at indiefilmnet.com  Tue Nov 13 16:12:00 2012
From: mhooper at indiefilmnet.com (Mark Hooper)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:12:00 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
In-Reply-To: <8C44B897-9ACF-4DB8-A603-981867387D7D@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <63bd25c3.1cdc1f4.62e578fd.1d20@indiefilmnet.com>

Sounds like Grandpa's axe. Replaced the handle three times and the blade
twice, but it's still Grandpa's axe...

Mark Hooper
1972 TR6

-----Original Message-----
From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Douglas Morris
Sent: November-09-12 9:51 PM
To: 6pack
Subject: [6pack] Center Console

I've had the JCWhitney center console (arm rest with stowage compartment) for
about three years.
The arm rest makes driving quite comfortable.
Yes, the plastic hinges broke, so I replaced 'em with a piano hinge.
Yes, the lid slides back and forth (since there's no alignment ridge), so I
added a couple of aluminum slats under the lid which keep it from shifting.
Yes, the vinyl arm rest gets all slippery sweaty from my forearm in the heat,
so I re-covered it with a suede material.
Yes, the screws which attach the plastic box to the metal mounting frame
pulled through.
Yes, it's a POS; but I haven't given up on it.
I plan to replace the plastic box with a plywood box, make a good lid with a
lock (for handgun storage when I pop into the post office and stuff), and add
a lidded trash compartment behind (wind blows empty cigar wrappers out of my
open trash can behind the pax seat).
Sooo, other than that 

Doug Morris, NC

From sakirsis at consolidated.net  Tue Nov 13 16:53:13 2012
From: sakirsis at consolidated.net (kirsis stephen)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:53:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Center Console
In-Reply-To: <63bd25c3.1cdc1f4.62e578fd.1d20@indiefilmnet.com>
References: <8C44B897-9ACF-4DB8-A603-981867387D7D@nc.rr.com>
	<63bd25c3.1cdc1f4.62e578fd.1d20@indiefilmnet.com>
Message-ID: <201211132353.060020@ms01.consolidated.net>

I wish I had not junked it. Doug has some great ingenuity. I really liked the product.  
Making Doug's improvements and the same price I would order it again. Any-one 
have a part or product # from Whitney? It would not take much to make it a 
comfortable option. Not that I want to carry my gun in it. I would shoot myself or a 
relative. never owned one. My Daschund is enough.  
Steve Kirsis '70 damson 6, 75'Pimento 6

From sakirsis at consolidated.net  Tue Nov 13 17:59:38 2012
From: sakirsis at consolidated.net (kirsis stephen)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:59:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Jc whitney armrest
Message-ID: <201211140059.060002@ms01.consolidated.net>

Found it under armrests with a product discontinued note. No wonder after reading 
the reviews. All the same problem, poor,brittle, plastic hinges. Shame, what a great 
price and good fit. If they had only invested a few dimes more!! 

From emanteno at comcast.net  Tue Nov 13 20:45:55 2012
From: emanteno at comcast.net (Irv Korey)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:45:55 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Jc whitney armrest
In-Reply-To: <201211140059.060002@ms01.consolidated.net>
References: <201211140059.060002@ms01.consolidated.net>
Message-ID: <CAFWFMygNcnLZ5cy_CooMfhueWmxbGj0ETr6fGuB1MS8mK1gvTw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:59 PM, kirsis stephen
<sakirsis at consolidated.net>wrote:

> Found it under armrests with a product discontinued note. No wonder after
> reading
> the reviews. All the same problem, poor,brittle, plastic hinges. Shame,
> what a great
> price and good fit. If they had only invested a few dimes more!!
>

Whitney put them on closeout a couple of years ago. They sold their
remaining inventory for $10.00 each including shipping.
Someone in my club found out about it and posted the link. Guys were buying
2 or 3 of them. Definitely worth $10.

Irv Korey
74 TR6 CF22767U
Highland Park, IL

From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca  Tue Nov 13 21:17:17 2012
From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:17:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [6pack] Electronic  Ignition Opinion
Message-ID: <1352866637.62348.YahooMailNeo@web121605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

My Crane 700 from about 2000 has been flawless.    Bought a Crane 3000 a few
years ago.   Nice unit.with more features then 700.    700 is now a
backup.     There's some more interesting solutions such as Mallory unilite or
123 where you can dial in different advance curves to suit your engine, but
you need an electric tach conversion.
 
Good with my set-up,
 
Bruce Simms

From mdporter at dfn.com  Tue Nov 13 22:10:14 2012
From: mdporter at dfn.com (Michael Porter)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 22:10:14 -0700
Subject: [6pack] Electronic  Ignition Opinion
In-Reply-To: <1352866637.62348.YahooMailNeo@web121605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1352866637.62348.YahooMailNeo@web121605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50A327B6.10206@dfn.com>

On 11/13/2012 9:17 PM, Bruce Simms wrote:
> My Crane 700 from about 2000 has been flawless.    Bought a Crane 3000 a few
> years ago.   Nice unit.with more features then 700.    700 is now a
> backup.     There's some more interesting solutions such as Mallory unilite or
> 123 where you can dial in different advance curves to suit your engine, but
> you need an electric tach conversion.
>   
> Good with my set-up,
>   
>

Same here. I've had an Allison (now Crane) unit on the GT6 for fifteen 
years now, with no problems.  I think some of the early failures that 
queered people on the Allison/Crane setup was that the main cable had 
more of a strain relief than a waterproof seal where it exited the case, 
and moisture may have been a cause.  When I installed mine, I forced 
some sealant into and around the cable and it's survived driving through 
some very bad flooding.  It can't cure other faults, such as bad rotors, 
but it's done yeoman service for a decade and a half.


Cheers.

-- 


Michael Porter
Roswell, NM


Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance....

From lists at brits-n-pieces.com  Wed Nov 14 01:03:29 2012
From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (lists)
Date: 14 Nov 2012 09:03:29 +0100
Subject: [6pack] Electronic  Ignition Opinion
Message-ID: <20121114080347.508B03200450@dd12314.kasserver.com>

Bruce (and others),

not with the option we offer. We build the electronics of the 123 into the original distributor housing. Works (and looks) like a charm, not only with Triumphs but nearly all cars, even pre-war!

Eric

Bruce Simms wrote:
...     There's some more interesting solutions such as Mallory unilite or
123 where you can dial in different advance curves to suit your engine, but
you need an electric tach conversion.
 
Good with my set-up,
 
Bruce Simms

From forzion7 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 14 08:08:22 2012
From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:08:22 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Jc whitney armrest
In-Reply-To: <CAFWFMygNcnLZ5cy_CooMfhueWmxbGj0ETr6fGuB1MS8mK1gvTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <201211140059.060002@ms01.consolidated.net>
	<CAFWFMygNcnLZ5cy_CooMfhueWmxbGj0ETr6fGuB1MS8mK1gvTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1eQwiCY3i-GT_NoNQfNecep4JuYivkdakxEm5h5M2ZCZ0Rgw@mail.gmail.com>

Well, these aren't $10 each but they're worth a look,
in a world of somewhat limited options...

http://www.spitfireoptions.com/ProductA.html

Dave Friedlander
'74 Six

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Irv Korey <emanteno at comcast.net> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 6:59 PM, kirsis stephen
> <sakirsis at consolidated.net>wrote:
>
> > Found it under armrests with a product discontinued note. No wonder after
> > reading
> > the reviews. All the same problem, poor,brittle, plastic hinges. Shame,
> > what a great
> > price and good fit. If they had only invested a few dimes more!!
> >
>
> Whitney put them on closeout a couple of years ago. They sold their
> remaining inventory for $10.00 each including shipping.
> Someone in my club found out about it and posted the link. Guys were buying
> 2 or 3 of them. Definitely worth $10.
>
> Irv Korey
> 74 TR6 CF22767U
> Highland Park, IL

From TR6UO at aol.com  Wed Nov 14 12:26:49 2012
From: TR6UO at aol.com (TR6UO at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:26:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Stromberg Upgrade?
Message-ID: <297.64965585.3dd54a79@aol.com>

The original Strombergs on my '72 TR6 need some work. It occurred to me  
that this might be a good time to consider an upgrade. What's the conventional 
 wisdom on the best replacement? I'm leaning toward the HS6 replacement kit 
with  K&N filters. The best price appears to be from Victoria British.
 
Has anyone installed the HS6 kit? Any thoughts, caveats, considerations? 
 
Thanks for any input!
 
Steve, Vacaville, CA
'72 Damson

From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca  Wed Nov 14 12:42:28 2012
From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:42:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [6pack] whitney armrest
Message-ID: <1352922148.44153.YahooMailNeo@web121604.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

happy to have originally stirred the the pot on this one!   I learned a lot.
 
Bruce Simms

From glemon at neb.rr.com  Wed Nov 14 18:32:02 2012
From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:32:02 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Stromberg Upgrade?
In-Reply-To: <297.64965585.3dd54a79@aol.com>
References: <297.64965585.3dd54a79@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5055CA4CBA9E4B579E773266AE0967C8@GregPC>

I fit 175 CDs to my TR250, much simpler and easier to set up right than the 
CD2s, no emissions valves etc. and still look original at a quick glance.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb196/grglmn/newcarbs.jpg

Cost me about $150 for some used carbs and a comprehensive rebuild kit.

Greg Lemon

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Wed Nov 14 18:38:40 2012
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:38:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Stromberg Upgrade?
In-Reply-To: <5055CA4CBA9E4B579E773266AE0967C8@GregPC>
References: <297.64965585.3dd54a79@aol.com>
	<5055CA4CBA9E4B579E773266AE0967C8@GregPC>
Message-ID: <8CF90E912F20985-910-A672@webmail-d058.sysops.aol.com>

That would be my first choice.....




Excellent....


-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Lemon <glemon at neb.rr.com>
To: TR6UO <TR6UO at aol.com>; 6pack <6pack at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Nov 14, 2012 7:35 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Stromberg Upgrade?


I fit 175 CDs to my TR250, much simpler and easier to set up right than the
CD2s, no emissions valves etc. and still look original at a quick glance.

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb196/grglmn/newcarbs.jpg

Cost me about $150 for some used carbs and a comprehensive rebuild kit.

Greg Lemon

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From TR6UO at aol.com  Wed Nov 14 19:44:24 2012
From: TR6UO at aol.com (TR6UO at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:44:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Stromberg Upgrade?
Message-ID: <30c85.8a3821.3dd5b108@aol.com>

Thanks! Are those K&Ns?

From glemon at neb.rr.com  Wed Nov 14 19:50:13 2012
From: glemon at neb.rr.com (Greg Lemon)
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:50:13 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Stromberg Upgrade?
In-Reply-To: <30c85.8a3821.3dd5b108@aol.com>
References: <30c85.8a3821.3dd5b108@aol.com>
Message-ID: <F3D4AE1EE3464A40BF3DE1F1A6B40778@GregPC>

No just stock TR4A paper elements

I also have some big velocity stacks for when I want to go fast, zoom zoom.

Greg

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: TR6UO at aol.com
  To: n197tr4 at cs.com ; glemon at neb.rr.com ; 6pack at autox.team.net
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [6pack] Stromberg Upgrade?


  Thanks! Are those K&Ns?

From forzion7 at gmail.com  Thu Nov 15 14:49:11 2012
From: forzion7 at gmail.com (David Friedlander)
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:49:11 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Stromberg Upgrade?
In-Reply-To: <297.64965585.3dd54a79@aol.com>
References: <297.64965585.3dd54a79@aol.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ1eQwg+ZFuRXeMi1fHy85phi=TBdcw2qQPeUW7fiUJmJK8Vsw@mail.gmail.com>

Steve;

Of course, if you want better gas mileage and to be able to quit tweaking/
more tweaking/adjusting your carbs, there's Throttle Body Fuel Injection!
I've had it for years and would never consider going back.

See details at http://www.pattonmachine.com/

The carbs can remain stock appearance from the outside, if you wish,
and the K&N's sold by TRF and others fit great!

NFI....

Dave Friedlander
'74 Six w/TBI and A-type OD


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:26 PM, <TR6UO at aol.com> wrote:

> The original Strombergs on my '72 TR6 need some work. It occurred to me
> that this might be a good time to consider an upgrade. What's the
> conventional
>  wisdom on the best replacement? I'm leaning toward the HS6 replacement kit
> with  K&N filters. The best price appears to be from Victoria British.
>
> Has anyone installed the HS6 kit? Any thoughts, caveats, considerations?
>
> Thanks for any input!
>
> Steve, Vacaville, CA
> '72 Damson
>
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From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca  Mon Nov 19 12:59:47 2012
From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:59:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [6pack] Centre Console - Concours Scoring?
Message-ID: <1353355187.73497.YahooMailNeo@web121602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

My car is definitely not concours oriented, and I know very little about
concours, but I'm mildly curious, how is something like a rare dealer
accessory like the Amco center console scored at a concours event?   Are only
Triumph or Triumph dealer supplied accessories acceptable?
 
Bruce Simms

From fietts02 at aol.com  Mon Nov 19 15:01:18 2012
From: fietts02 at aol.com (fietts02 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:01:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] Centre Console - Concours Scoring?
Message-ID: <17b93.4f553097.3ddc062e@aol.com>

Bruce, great questions. I am not one either, but have a console and curious 
 about the standards. Since they were an approved dealer options, I would 
think  they are acceptable. There was one option up till about 72(late) or 
early 73  that was a one piece set up. Could get standard or deluxe which had 
a lighter  and ash try. This setup was for the TR4, TR250, TR6.  Amco then  
produced in 73 a two piece unit which had a clock and you could get the one  
piece only or the wrap around second piece. Both should be correct for the  
TR6.
Ken
 
 
In a message dated 11/19/2012 2:59:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca writes:

My car  is definitely not concours oriented, and I know very little about
concours,  but I'm mildly curious, how is something like a rare dealer
accessory like  the Amco center console scored at a concours event?   Are  
only
Triumph or Triumph dealer supplied accessories  acceptable?

Bruce  Simms

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From jholekamp at sbcglobal.net  Tue Nov 20 14:52:17 2012
From: jholekamp at sbcglobal.net (Jay Holekamp)
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:52:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [6pack] AMCO Center Console
Message-ID: <1353448337.28654.YahooMailRC@web184404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

>From the VTR Concours Judging Guidelines:
 
3.6.1 PERIOD ACCESSORIES: 
the
period when the car was current shall not be a cause for a deduction and
shall not be
considered modifications. This includes modern radios if
installed in a period 
mount.
 
No mention of dealer supplied requirement, so
presumably anything from the 
entire aftermarket period accessories array
would not be reason for a deduction 
if the period accessory was in good
order.
 
brgds, Jay
 
'64 Triumph TR4 since '67Accessories which were
available to the owner during

From nosto53 at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 27 12:33:25 2012
From: nosto53 at yahoo.com (richard olson)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 11:33:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [6pack] Suspension?
Message-ID: <1354044805.7222.YahooMailNeo@web164903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Hi, and welcome to winter!

Bought my 1972 TR6 in 1996 (21,000 on OD).
Did
urethane re-bushing kits in front, rear and differential.
(And HVDA
conversion, paint, spoke wheels, factory hardtop, on and on..............)
Now at 65,000 miles (16 years old, like a baby?), is it a good idea to get
all of the new suspension parts for this?  The urethane was a little hard on
the roadway, so I'm thinking 

to put on stock rubber parts.  Yea or no?
Thanks,
Rick Olson in NJ

From jimjcmo at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 27 13:21:04 2012
From: jimjcmo at yahoo.com (Jim Jones)
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 12:21:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [6pack] Suspension?
In-Reply-To: <1354044805.7222.YahooMailNeo@web164903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1354047664.79191.YahooMailClassic@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Richard I don't think you'll get that much more compliance from the rubber
parts and they don't last NEARLY as long as 16 years. I'd stay with what
works. As for replacing everything? I would take out one of the one of the
front bushings to see how it looks and feels. If you are getting the "TR6
negative camber" when you look at the car from the dead-on rear it's probably
time to replace those.

Jim

--- On Tue, 11/27/12, richard olson <nosto53 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: richard olson <nosto53 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [6pack] Suspension?
To: "6pack at autox.team.net" <6pack at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, November 27, 2012, 1:33 PM

Hi, and welcome to winter!

Bought my 1972 TR6 in 1996 (21,000 on OD).
Did
urethane re-bushing kits in front, rear and differential.
(And HVDA
conversion, paint, spoke wheels, factory hardtop, on and on..............)
Now at 65,000 miles (16 years old, like a baby?), is it a good idea to get
all of the new suspension parts for this?  The urethane was a little hard on
the roadway, so I'm thinking

to put on stock rubber parts.  Yea or no?
Thanks,
Rick Olson in NJ

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From janah at att.net  Wed Nov 28 14:07:43 2012
From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 13:07:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [6pack] Suspension
Message-ID: <1354136863.26501.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Unless you are on a budget, the rubber bushings / suspension parts are not the
way to go. Much of the rubber these days seems to deteriorate rapidly.
Urethane or poly(pro?) is going to last much longer.
 
John Cyganowski
CC52927LO
70 Damson

From brian at asmoothmove.biz  Wed Nov 28 14:21:27 2012
From: brian at asmoothmove.biz (brian at asmoothmove.biz)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 15:21:27 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Performance Research Industries
In-Reply-To: <1354136863.26501.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <1354136863.26501.YahooMailClassic@web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <012401cdcdae$5438e1f0$fcaaa5d0$@biz>

Does anyone on the net have first-hand experience working with Performance
Research Industries (PRI) out of Oregon? They have some natural aspirated -6
engine build-ups that look very interesting and are indicating upwards of
160HP.

Thanks,

Brian

Brian J. Alwin
1972 TR-6 CC79085
Rochester, Minnesota

From brian at asmoothmove.biz  Wed Nov 28 15:24:37 2012
From: brian at asmoothmove.biz (brian at asmoothmove.biz)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:24:37 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Performance Research Industries
In-Reply-To: <1354138630.13181.YahooMailClassic@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
References: <012401cdcdae$5438e1f0$fcaaa5d0$@biz>
	<1354138630.13181.YahooMailClassic@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <015401cdcdb7$273b2830$75b17890$@biz>

Yah they want just about $8,000 for the engine I want. I am torn between
supercharging and this. The problem I have is that I can't seem to find a
definitive "formula" to put together my own engine with the Moss
supercharger, i.e. which cam to use, compression ratio, porting, header,
etc. If there was a book on the matter I'd buy it (I do have the Kastner
gem). I have a low-mileage rebuild with good compression and a 10.1:1 head
currently so the head would have to go if I supercharged it. I have no
problem tearing into it if I knew where I was going with it. I don't want to
just hang parts on the thing as that leads to disappointment.


Thanks for your help,

 

Brian

 

From: Jim Jones [mailto:jimjcmo at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:37 PM
To: brian at asmoothmove.biz
Subject: Re: [6pack] Performance Research Industries

 


If your motor is in good shape (compression, head, etc.) it would probably
be cheaper and easier to bolt on a Moss Supercharger kit. The blower will
make more a difference at the speeds we normally drive. If you're going
autocross or race that may not be the case. Building up a motor without
forced induction can be rather expen$ive.

I had a Moss kit on my old 72 Six. It really pulled hard!

Jim

--- On Wed, 11/28/12, brian at asmoothmove.biz <brian at asmoothmove.biz> wrote:


From: brian at asmoothmove.biz <brian at asmoothmove.biz>
Subject: [6pack] Performance Research Industries
To: 6pack at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 3:21 PM

Does anyone on the net have first-hand experience working with Performance
Research Industries (PRI) out of Oregon? They have some natural aspirated -6
engine build-ups that look very interesting and are indicating upwards of
160HP.

Thanks,

Brian

Brian J. Alwin
1972 TR-6 CC79085
Rochester, Minnesota

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From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Nov 28 15:43:26 2012
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 16:43:26 -0600
Subject: [6pack] Performance Research Industries
In-Reply-To: <015401cdcdb7$273b2830$75b17890$@biz>
References: <012401cdcdae$5438e1f0$fcaaa5d0$@biz><1354138630.13181.YahooMailClassic@web142705.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
	<015401cdcdb7$273b2830$75b17890$@biz>
Message-ID: <F636ACADB93F4F49A87D6DEEEBF71523@Datsun>

I would suspect that triple webers and a mild (or wild) cam will get you 
most of that way for less money.  I have the ZS triple carbs, mild cam, 
lightened flywheel, shaved, polished, ported head, decked block, 
rebuilt/recurved dizzy, petronix, and a few other bits.  I was dyno'd about 
100 at the wheels.

don't forget to upgrade the suspension and especially the brakes!

-----Original Message----- 
From: brian at asmoothmove.biz
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:24 PM
To: 'Jim Jones' ; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Performance Research Industries

Yah they want just about $8,000 for the engine I want. I am torn between
supercharging and this. The problem I have is that I can't seem to find a
definitive "formula" to put together my own engine with the Moss
supercharger, i.e. which cam to use, compression ratio, porting, header,
etc. If there was a book on the matter I'd buy it (I do have the Kastner
gem). I have a low-mileage rebuild with good compression and a 10.1:1 head
currently so the head would have to go if I supercharged it. I have no
problem tearing into it if I knew where I was going with it. I don't want to
just hang parts on the thing as that leads to disappointment.


Thanks for your help,



Brian



From: Jim Jones [mailto:jimjcmo at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:37 PM
To: brian at asmoothmove.biz
Subject: Re: [6pack] Performance Research Industries




If your motor is in good shape (compression, head, etc.) it would probably
be cheaper and easier to bolt on a Moss Supercharger kit. The blower will
make more a difference at the speeds we normally drive. If you're going
autocross or race that may not be the case. Building up a motor without
forced induction can be rather expen$ive.

I had a Moss kit on my old 72 Six. It really pulled hard!

Jim

--- On Wed, 11/28/12, brian at asmoothmove.biz <brian at asmoothmove.biz> wrote:


From: brian at asmoothmove.biz <brian at asmoothmove.biz>
Subject: [6pack] Performance Research Industries
To: 6pack at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 3:21 PM

Does anyone on the net have first-hand experience working with Performance
Research Industries (PRI) out of Oregon? They have some natural aspirated -6
engine build-ups that look very interesting and are indicating upwards of
160HP.

Thanks,

Brian

Brian J. Alwin
1972 TR-6 CC79085
Rochester, Minnesota 

From auprichard at uprichard.net  Wed Nov 28 15:53:28 2012
From: auprichard at uprichard.net (Andrew Uprichard)
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:53:28 -0500
Subject: [6pack] Performance Research Industries
In-Reply-To: <F636ACADB93F4F49A87D6DEEEBF71523@Datsun>
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	<F636ACADB93F4F49A87D6DEEEBF71523@Datsun>
Message-ID: <00f501cdcdbb$2f90f560$8eb2e020$@uprichard.net>

Await an upcoming article in 6-Pack, but I secured 160bhp at the wheels in
my TR250 with what Dave describes below.  And Brian can get it for less than
$8000 starting where he is now.

Andrew Uprichard

-----Original Message-----
From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 5:43 PM
To: 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Performance Research Industries

I would suspect that triple webers and a mild (or wild) cam will get you
most of that way for less money.  I have the ZS triple carbs, mild cam,
lightened flywheel, shaved, polished, ported head, decked block,
rebuilt/recurved dizzy, petronix, and a few other bits.  I was dyno'd about
100 at the wheels.

don't forget to upgrade the suspension and especially the brakes!

-----Original Message-----
From: brian at asmoothmove.biz
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 4:24 PM
To: 'Jim Jones' ; 6pack at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] Performance Research Industries

Yah they want just about $8,000 for the engine I want. I am torn between
supercharging and this. The problem I have is that I can't seem to find a
definitive "formula" to put together my own engine with the Moss
supercharger, i.e. which cam to use, compression ratio, porting, header,
etc. If there was a book on the matter I'd buy it (I do have the Kastner
gem). I have a low-mileage rebuild with good compression and a 10.1:1 head
currently so the head would have to go if I supercharged it. I have no
problem tearing into it if I knew where I was going with it. I don't want to
just hang parts on the thing as that leads to disappointment.


Thanks for your help,



Brian



From: Jim Jones [mailto:jimjcmo at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 3:37 PM
To: brian at asmoothmove.biz
Subject: Re: [6pack] Performance Research Industries




If your motor is in good shape (compression, head, etc.) it would probably
be cheaper and easier to bolt on a Moss Supercharger kit. The blower will
make more a difference at the speeds we normally drive. If you're going
autocross or race that may not be the case. Building up a motor without
forced induction can be rather expen$ive.

I had a Moss kit on my old 72 Six. It really pulled hard!

Jim

--- On Wed, 11/28/12, brian at asmoothmove.biz <brian at asmoothmove.biz> wrote:


From: brian at asmoothmove.biz <brian at asmoothmove.biz>
Subject: [6pack] Performance Research Industries
To: 6pack at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 3:21 PM

Does anyone on the net have first-hand experience working with Performance
Research Industries (PRI) out of Oregon? They have some natural aspirated -6
engine build-ups that look very interesting and are indicating upwards of
160HP.

Thanks,

Brian

Brian J. Alwin
1972 TR-6 CC79085
Rochester, Minnesota 

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From janah at att.net  Thu Nov 29 13:29:54 2012
From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski)
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:29:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [6pack] PRI
Message-ID: <1354220994.69456.YahooMailClassic@web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

<snip> Does anyone on the net have first-hand experience working with
Performance
Research Industries (PRI) out of Oregon?<snip>
 
They have a cool website and have some interesting ideas and some wind ideas
about headers that are a belnd of technology and a work of art.  Their Mikuni
carb idea apparently is pretty neat.
 
However, becareful.  I have heard of instances where they will not return
phone calls when they have your engine etc. Ask for references and hit the
forums and message boards.

From n197tr4 at cs.com  Fri Nov 30 15:05:40 2012
From: n197tr4 at cs.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:05:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [6pack] MIATA SEAT CONVERSION TO TR4A/TR-250/TR6
Message-ID: <8CF9D5DF83D686E-5C8-39505@webmail-d009.sysops.aol.com>

 Just a heads up......

I talked to Sean last night

Sean Alexander has three conversion kits left on the shelf.

If you are planning on doing this conversion, you may consider reserving one.

It takes Sean about 8 weeks to manufacture and assemble 25 kits and he has
three kids active in sports.  :-)

You can contact Sean at:        alex3rail at gmail.com



Joe Alexander
A. R. E.
645 1st Street
Jesup, Iowa 50648
319.464.4711  (cell)
n197tr4 at cs.com