From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Fri Jun 1 14:25:23 2012 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] speedo cables Message-ID: <1338582323.59712.YahooMailNeo@web164504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> www.vintagebritishcables.com is likely who you want Bruce Simms From JAR7U at hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu Fri Jun 1 15:30:46 2012 From: JAR7U at hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu (Ruffner, James A *HS) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:30:46 -0400 Subject: [6pack] speedo cables In-Reply-To: <1338582323.59712.YahooMailNeo@web164504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1338582323.59712.YahooMailNeo@web164504.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9CCC61DD86D67049B241705B6F03890B015966EEB092@HSCSEMAIL41.hscs.virginia.edu> I would point out to all that it is a good idea to pull all such cables and put a coat of the lithium disulphide grease on them. Clean the cable with either paint thinner or the likes, then apply the grease. You likely have no idea how long these things have been in use. ________________________________________ From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Simms [brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 4:25 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] speedo cables www.vintagebritishcables.com is likely who you want Bruce Simms ________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/jar7u at hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu From triosan at gmail.com Mon Jun 4 09:12:49 2012 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley) Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:12:49 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Transmission identified -- anyone want to buy it? Message-ID: A couple of weeks ago I asked for help in identifying a 4 speed/OD TR transmission I have. You all told me to look for hand stamped marking by clutch level shaft -- found it. Says MK 1500!. The input shaft is 1x10, not 1.25x10 as found in a TR6. Has a very functional J-type OD. Did run in my street TR6 for a thousand miles or so [6 years ago]. The bell housing was damaged and a small piece welded back on -- does not impact fit or performance. Would like to get $400 for it. Pictures upon request. -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley From r_rochlin at hotmail.com Sat Jun 9 19:48:12 2012 From: r_rochlin at hotmail.com (Bob Rochlin) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 01:48:12 +0000 Subject: [6pack] TR6 on Top Gear Message-ID: Hi All, Does anyone have a way of accessing the Top Gear TR6 review that was on Top Gear years back? It deems that the BBC has deleted it from YouTube. Thanks in advance. Bob Rochlin '72 TR6 From dave at ranteer.com Sat Jun 9 21:04:04 2012 From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 22:04:04 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR6 on Top Gear In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7FFF77C5571F4AE7B2092A2A8D8769DC@ranteer.local> that was the best! does anyone have it recorded? I should have . . . -----Original Message----- From: Bob Rochlin Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 8:48 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] TR6 on Top Gear Hi All, Does anyone have a way of accessing the Top Gear TR6 review that was on Top Gear years back? It deems that the BBC has deleted it from YouTube. Thanks in advance. Bob Rochlin '72 TR6 From tr6 at lbcs.ca Sat Jun 9 21:15:20 2012 From: tr6 at lbcs.ca (Dave More) Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:15:20 -0600 Subject: [6pack] TR6 on Top Gear In-Reply-To: <7FFF77C5571F4AE7B2092A2A8D8769DC@ranteer.local> References: <7FFF77C5571F4AE7B2092A2A8D8769DC@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <44D11192-0226-47C0-B18C-FA34EC840843@lbcs.ca> If you happen to have access to Netflix there are a bunch of old Top Gear shows available, including the TR6 episode which is Episode 5 in Series 2. Cheers, Dave On 2012-06-09, at 9:04 PM, "Dave" wrote: > that was the best! does anyone have it recorded? I should have . . . > > -----Original Message----- From: Bob Rochlin > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 8:48 PM > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] TR6 on Top Gear > > Hi All, Does anyone have a way of accessing the Top Gear TR6 review that was > on Top Gear years back? It deems that the BBC has deleted it from YouTube. > Thanks in advance. Bob Rochlin '72 TR6 > ________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6 at lbcs.ca From dirtbeard at pacbell.net Sun Jun 10 14:05:56 2012 From: dirtbeard at pacbell.net (old dirtbeard) Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 13:05:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] TR6 on Top Gear (Dave) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1339358756.27213.YahooMailRC@web184418.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Thank you!! Just watched it for the first time...this is a great list! :-) best, doug ____________________ '72 BSA B50SS '74 Triumph TR6 '01 HD XHL 883 '03 GMC Cargo Van '07 Aprilia SXV 550 Message: 3 Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 21:15:20 -0600 From: Dave More To: Dave Cc: "<6pack at autox.team.net>" <6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 on Top Gear Message-ID: <44D11192-0226-47C0-B18C-FA34EC840843 at lbcs.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you happen to have access to Netflix there are a bunch of old Top Gear shows available, including the TR6 episode which is Episode 5 in Series 2. Cheers, Dave From TR6UO at aol.com Tue Jun 12 08:47:00 2012 From: TR6UO at aol.com (TR6UO at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] TR6 on Top Gear Message-ID: The episode features a test drive through the English countryside in a presumably restored ('70-'72?) TR6 in a drizzle with the top down and wipers working overtime. This is considered a normal drive in the country in the UK. The premise is that "It's a blokes car" and the only convertible a "proper bloke" would be caught dead driving; all very humorous, and probably not far from the truth, if you're a proper British bloke. But the best part was a good look at the fuel injection system that came on the non-US cars. The twin Strombergs were conspicuous by their absence. Has anyone explored the idea of a retrofit injection system for the CA exempt (all but '76) models? From Triosan at gmail.com Tue Jun 12 09:29:35 2012 From: Triosan at gmail.com (Triosan at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 15:29:35 +0000 Subject: [6pack] TR6 on Top Gear In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Have done it to both my race cars. Works great and is relatively easy to do. Pictures of the old [stolen] car are at: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/103241823961257430252/albums/5044078338594945169 On , TR6UO at aol.com wrote: > The episode features a test drive through the English countryside in a > presumably restored ('70-'72?) TR6 in a drizzle with the top down and > wipers > working overtime. This is considered a normal drive in the country in the > UK. > The premise is that "It's a blokes car" and the only convertible a "proper > bloke" would be caught dead driving; all very humorous, and probably not > far from the truth, if you're a proper British bloke. > But the best part was a good look at the fuel injection system that came > on > the non-US cars. The twin Strombergs were conspicuous by their absence. > Has anyone explored the idea of a retrofit injection system for the CA > exempt > (all but '76) models? > ________________________________________ > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/triosan at gmail.com From TR6UO at aol.com Fri Jun 15 01:04:28 2012 From: TR6UO at aol.com (TR6UO at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Towing a TR6 Message-ID: <31d73.5157e9d6.3d0c387c@aol.com> I may need to tow my '72 TR6 about 60 miles. I plan to use a u-haul car dolly, front wheels of the TR in the cradle, towed with my truck. Should I be concerned about the rear end? Will I need to disconnect the driveshaft or can I just tow it as is? Thanks for any insights or suggestions! Steve From aktifspeed at gmail.com Fri Jun 15 12:18:50 2012 From: aktifspeed at gmail.com (Erik Sulcs) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:18:50 -0400 Subject: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 4, Issue 88 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: RE:Towing a TR6 Save your money renting the dolly from U-Haul, and the gas spent towing the car with your truck, and spend $109 at AAA on their "Plus" membership. They will flatbed your car up to 100 miles. In addition, you'll have access to that service for a whole year, plus all of the other AAA benefits. I'm not affiliated with AAA at all, just figuring it makes more sense than the inherent danger of those crappy tow dolly's... Erik S. (Aktifspeed) On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM, <6pack-request at autox.team.net> wrote: > Send 6pack mailing list submissions to > 6pack at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > 6pack-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > 6pack-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Towing a TR6 (TR6UO at aol.com) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: TR6UO at aol.com > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Cc: > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:04:28 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: [6pack] Towing a TR6 > I may need to tow my '72 TR6 about 60 miles. I plan to use a u-haul car > dolly, front wheels of the TR in the cradle, towed with my truck. Should > I be > concerned about the rear end? Will I need to disconnect the driveshaft or > can I just tow it as is? > > Thanks for any insights or suggestions! > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > 6pack mailing list > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Fri Jun 15 12:54:00 2012 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:54:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] 73 Ignition Switch Questions Message-ID: <1339786440.44269.YahooMailNeo@web164501.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have a metal bodied ignition switch with 5 lucar connectors. Not sure if this is correct as wiring diagram for 73 shows 6 positions, and, some information is that the 73 switch had a wiring pigtail set-up, like 74-76. Numbers on back of my switch don't quite correspond to the 1-6 positions on the 73 wiring diagram. Things weren't working quite right as hazard switch, horn etc only worked with key on. Lights work correctly without key. The wiring is not completely original, but I have two brown wires, white-pink, white-red and a white, so I'm close. Anti-run on valve (brown-red wire)and radio are not working, and, no plans to change this. What my switch has on the back 4 no lucar 5---- 3--- ?--- 1---- 2---- Thank you for any advice and ideas. Bruce Simms From wmp at charter.net Sat Jun 16 10:00:23 2012 From: wmp at charter.net (Bill Palmer) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:00:23 -0400 Subject: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 4, Issue 88 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C8EAFE6-CCD8-4E7F-8626-2BBD474476D4@charter.net> Steve, You may want to check the specs on a U-Haul tow dolly. Our TRs are narrow. Bill On Jun 15, 2012, at 2:00 PM, 6pack-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Send 6pack mailing list submissions to > 6pack at autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > 6pack-request at autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > 6pack-owner at autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Towing a TR6 (TR6UO at aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 03:04:28 -0400 (EDT) > From: TR6UO at aol.com > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] Towing a TR6 > Message-ID: <31d73.5157e9d6.3d0c387c at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I may need to tow my '72 TR6 about 60 miles. I plan to use a u-haul > car > dolly, front wheels of the TR in the cradle, towed with my truck. > Should I be > concerned about the rear end? Will I need to disconnect the > driveshaft or > can I just tow it as is? > > Thanks for any insights or suggestions! > > Steve > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 6pack mailing list > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > End of 6pack Digest, Vol 4, Issue 88 > ************************************ From TR6UO at aol.com Sat Jun 16 10:17:21 2012 From: TR6UO at aol.com (TR6UO at aol.com) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Towing a TR6 Message-ID: <6320c.78c04580.3d0e0b90@aol.com> Thanks for all the feedback on towing my TR. Very much appreciated! Steve From im_sloane at hotmail.com Sat Jun 16 18:02:18 2012 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:02:18 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Towing a TR6 In-Reply-To: <6320c.78c04580.3d0e0b90@aol.com> References: <6320c.78c04580.3d0e0b90@aol.com> Message-ID: Steve, I'm guessing the feedback was off-list. My .02 is tow it backwards. Don't lock the steering column. It'll follow you just fine. Sloane :) TR-69 > From: TR6UO at aol.com > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:17:21 -0400 > To: TR6UO at aol.com; 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [6pack] Towing a TR6 > > Thanks for all the feedback on towing my TR. Very much appreciated! > > Steve From im_sloane at hotmail.com Sat Jun 16 18:05:44 2012 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 00:05:44 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Was: Towing a TR-6 RE: 6pack Digest, Vol 4, Issue 88 In-Reply-To: <4C8EAFE6-CCD8-4E7F-8626-2BBD474476D4@charter.net> References: , <4C8EAFE6-CCD8-4E7F-8626-2BBD474476D4@charter.net> Message-ID: Oh, not sure how the subject got changed on this thread. I've used a u-haul dolly, tight squeeze but it just did fit. And again, just tow it backwards. Otherwise you are suppose to disconnect the prop-shaft. Sloane :) TR-69 > From: wmp at charter.net > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:00:23 -0400 > Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 4, Issue 88 > > Steve, > > You may want to check the specs on a U-Haul tow dolly. Our TRs are > narrow. > > Bill From djfidler at rogers.com Sat Jun 16 18:14:06 2012 From: djfidler at rogers.com (David Fidler) Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 20:14:06 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Towing a TR6 In-Reply-To: References: <6320c.78c04580.3d0e0b90@aol.com> Message-ID: <22159437-9DE5-4EC7-8965-E7B336989A52@rogers.com> Don't tow backwards if you have wire wheels! ;) Best regards, David. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 16, 2012, at 8:02 PM, im sloane wrote: > Steve, > I'm guessing the feedback was off-list. My .02 is tow it backwards. Don't lock > the steering column. It'll follow you just fine. > > Sloane :) > TR-69 > > >> From: TR6UO at aol.com >> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:17:21 -0400 >> To: TR6UO at aol.com; 6pack at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [6pack] Towing a TR6 >> >> Thanks for all the feedback on towing my TR. Very much appreciated! >> >> Steve > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/djfidler at rogers.com From marc.nederkoorn at home.nl Sun Jun 17 14:06:01 2012 From: marc.nederkoorn at home.nl (Marc Nederkoorn) Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:06:01 +0200 Subject: [6pack] 4th of July in LA Message-ID: Listers, We (me and family) will be in LA or thereabout on July, 4th. It will be the start of a nice holliday! Question is where in LA, or probably any small city nearby (headed for San Diego after LA, driving a RV), can we enjoy some of the celebrations? We rather prefer some local festivities to get to know the American way, instead of a big, anonymus, parade. Any suggestions are welcome! Regards, Marc From tr6taylor at webtv.net Tue Jun 19 13:04:59 2012 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 19:04:59 GMT Subject: [6pack] 4th of July in LA Message-ID: Marc---About "American" as one can get is to take in a baseball game on this day. Dodger Stadium, in Los Angeles, is hosting a game against the "Cincinnati Reds" on July 4th. The game starts at 6pm, but suggest getting to the stadium closer to 5pm. (RV parking available, altho at a heftier price.) On this day there will also be a fireworks display after the game. American, indeed! If this seems something you might want to take your family to, contact www.dodgers.com for ticket information. In any case, we hope your trip to the states is enjoyable! Dick Taylor Los Angeles, Ca. (area) From jmcoh at comcast.net Sun Jun 24 10:07:01 2012 From: jmcoh at comcast.net (John Cohen) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 12:07:01 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Mixture Adjustment Message-ID: <000001cd5223$64418180$2cc48480$@comcast.net> Hi Guys, I had my ZS carbs rebuilt from Paltech, put everything back together and find the front 3 cylinders way too rich and the rear slightly lean. This is for a 1976 TR6 with stock everything and all emissions items still present, Pertronix, Lucas Sport coil and Champion N12YC's gapped to .035. . The car starts immediately with little or no choke and seems to idle great at about 900 PM, as it should. When I lift the air valves on both carbs, the engine stumbles and nearly stalls. That should indicate a lean condition on both carbs but I just do not see this on the front carb which appears to be too rich by the look of the plugs. The mixture came back from Paltech adjusted to 1.5 turns CCW (down) from full rich position (fully up). This is 1/2 of the adjustment range. My question is: To lean out the front carb, do I use the adjustment tool clockwise or counterclockwise? My intuition is to screw clockwise down to lean but from what limited info I can find on the net, it would appear the opposite is true. Am I on the correct trail here or should I be looking for something else going on? John Cohen Rutland, VT 1976 TR6 From levilevi at comcast.net Sun Jun 24 10:37:01 2012 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 10:37:01 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Mixture Adjustment In-Reply-To: <000001cd5223$64418180$2cc48480$@comcast.net> References: <000001cd5223$64418180$2cc48480$@comcast.net> Message-ID: John, I wouldn't mess with the needles yet. It could be that you could have too much gas pressure at the carbs especially the front carb. Get a vacuum gage and fit a T-connector into your gas line right before it enters the carbs. It should run right around 1-2 psi. My car likes 1.5 psi. It didn't like 3-4 psi which is the reading I got initially so I put a pressure regulator/filter on and set the pressure at 1.5 psi and its run better ever since. Your symptoms, no choke needed, stumble/stall, black plugs all indicate a too much fuel problem whether its pressure, stuck float valve, or something else in that front carb. Also the front carb is first in line to the gas line so my guess is that it gets a little more of the brunt of the pressure and is prone to the issues you described. The front carb fuel chamber on my car always has the most crud in when I clean it out too. I've become a believer in controlling gas pressure to ZS carbs and to cleaning out the fuel chambers as a regular maintenance task. It makes my life easier in the long run. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57806 (The Wreck-Almost parts) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi at comcast.net On Jun 24, 2012, at 10:07 AM, John Cohen wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I had my ZS carbs rebuilt from Paltech, put everything back together > and > find the front 3 cylinders way too rich and the rear slightly lean. > This is > for a 1976 TR6 with stock everything and all emissions items still > present, > Pertronix, Lucas Sport coil and Champion N12YC's gapped to .035. . > The car > starts immediately with little or no choke and seems to idle great > at about > 900 PM, as it should. When I lift the air valves on both carbs, the > engine > stumbles and nearly stalls. That should indicate a lean condition > on both > carbs but I just do not see this on the front carb which appears to > be too > rich by the look of the plugs. The mixture came back from Paltech > adjusted > to 1.5 turns CCW (down) from full rich position (fully up). This is > 1/2 of > the adjustment range. My question is: To lean out the front carb, > do I use > the adjustment tool clockwise or counterclockwise? My intuition is > to screw > clockwise down to lean but from what limited info I can find on the > net, it > would appear the opposite is true. Am I on the correct trail here > or should > I be looking for something else going on? > > > > John Cohen > > Rutland, VT > > 1976 TR6 > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/levilevi at comcast.net From mark at bradakis.com Sun Jun 24 13:41:19 2012 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:41:19 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Mixture Adjustment In-Reply-To: <000001cd5223$64418180$2cc48480$@comcast.net> References: <000001cd5223$64418180$2cc48480$@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4FE76D5F.7030803@bradakis.com> Left, lean Right, rich mjb. From dc_bruin at hotmail.com Sun Jun 24 22:30:57 2012 From: dc_bruin at hotmail.com (Dwayne Cooper) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 21:30:57 -0700 Subject: [6pack] 4th of July in LA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Marc, The beach communities would be the place to be: Long Beach, Seal Beach or Newport Beach all will have events from boat parades to fireworks. Newport Beach is typically quite crowded -- Seal Beach would be the best bet for a less hectic affair but in LA most public spaces will be pretty busy!. Another thought would be the Hollywood Bowl -- they always have a 4th of July concert with fireworks. I haven't been in years but they used to do the 1812 overture complete with cannons for the finale! Good luck and enjoy your trip! Dwayne > From: marc.nederkoorn at home.nl > To: triumphs at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:06:01 +0200 > Subject: [6pack] 4th of July in LA > > Listers, > > We (me and family) will be in LA or thereabout on July, 4th. It will be the > start of a nice holliday! Question is where in LA, or probably any small city > nearby... From tr6taylor at webtv.net Mon Jun 25 00:21:51 2012 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 06:21:51 GMT Subject: [6pack] Mixture Adjustment Message-ID: John---First off, the "lifting of the air valve" to determine the air/fuel mix at idle can give a false reading, if one follows some of the manuals. If you do try this test, the valve should only be raised about 1/16", not 1/4" as some manuals state. To lean out the rich carb, screw the adjustment counter-clockwise about 3/4 of a full turn to start with. You can do this with the engine running, but it may temporarily stumble in the process. (Doing so lowers the needle into the jet.) Clean the three "rich-looking" plugs and go for a drive. Recheck the plug coloring. You may have to check the float level in the front carb, if leaning out the a/f mix didn't help. Dick -----Original Message----- From: John Cohen Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:07 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Mixture Adjustment Hi Guys, I had my ZS carbs rebuilt from Paltech, put everything back together and find the front 3 cylinders way too rich and the rear slightly lean. This is for a 1976 TR6 with stock everything and all emissions items still present, Pertronix, Lucas Sport coil and Champion N12YC's gapped to .035. . The car starts immediately with little or no choke and seems to idle great at about 900 PM, as it should. When I lift the air valves on both carbs, the engine stumbles and nearly stalls. That should indicate a lean condition on both carbs but I just do not see this on the front carb which appears to be too rich by the look of the plugs. The mixture came back from Paltech adjusted to 1.5 turns CCW (down) from full rich position (fully up). This is 1/2 of the adjustment range. My question is: To lean out the front carb, do I use the adjustment tool clockwise or counterclockwise? My intuition is to screw clockwise down to lean but from what limited info I can find on the net, it would appear the opposite is true. Am I on the correct trail here or should I be looking for something else going on? John Cohen Rutland, VT 1976 TR6 ________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6taylor at webtv.net From jmcoh at comcast.net Mon Jun 25 20:10:32 2012 From: jmcoh at comcast.net (John Cohen) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 22:10:32 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Mixture Adjustment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001101cd5340$de2dd390$9a897ab0$@comcast.net> Thanks Dick, You are exactly right, the manuals I looked at all say to lift 1/4". I leaned out the needle in the front carb 1 turn, went for a 20 mile drive, pulled a plug from the front carb and it was the classic tan color. John Cohen -----Original Message----- From: Sally or Dick Taylor [mailto:tr6taylor at webtv.net] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 2:22 AM To: John Cohen; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Mixture Adjustment John---First off, the "lifting of the air valve" to determine the air/fuel mix at idle can give a false reading, if one follows some of the manuals. If you do try this test, the valve should only be raised about 1/16", not 1/4" as some manuals state. To lean out the rich carb, screw the adjustment counter-clockwise about 3/4 of a full turn to start with. You can do this with the engine running, but it may temporarily stumble in the process. (Doing so lowers the needle into the jet.) Clean the three "rich-looking" plugs and go for a drive. Recheck the plug coloring. You may have to check the float level in the front carb, if leaning out the a/f mix didn't help. Dick -----Original Message----- From: John Cohen Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 9:07 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Mixture Adjustment Hi Guys, I had my ZS carbs rebuilt from Paltech, put everything back together and find the front 3 cylinders way too rich and the rear slightly lean. This is for a 1976 TR6 with stock everything and all emissions items still present, Pertronix, Lucas Sport coil and Champion N12YC's gapped to .035. . The car starts immediately with little or no choke and seems to idle great at about 900 PM, as it should. When I lift the air valves on both carbs, the engine stumbles and nearly stalls. That should indicate a lean condition on both carbs but I just do not see this on the front carb which appears to be too rich by the look of the plugs. The mixture came back from Paltech adjusted to 1.5 turns CCW (down) from full rich position (fully up). This is 1/2 of the adjustment range. My question is: To lean out the front carb, do I use the adjustment tool clockwise or counterclockwise? My intuition is to screw clockwise down to lean but from what limited info I can find on the net, it would appear the opposite is true. Am I on the correct trail here or should I be looking for something else going on? John Cohen Rutland, VT 1976 TR6 ________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6taylor at webtv.net From bobfabie at gmail.com Fri Jun 29 06:35:16 2012 From: bobfabie at gmail.com (robert fabie) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 08:35:16 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Stiff Choke Cable Message-ID: Friends, Is there a trick to connecting the choke cables to the carbs that results in the choke knob operating smoothly? It seems to take a lot of force to pull and push the choke cable knob. When not connected to the carbs, the cable operates smoothly and effortlessly. Does anyone else have this problem? Much appreciate your help. Bob '75 TR6 From aljlthomson at charter.net Fri Jun 29 07:06:48 2012 From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex & Janet Thomson) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:06:48 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Stiff Choke Cable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000801cd55f8$0ae71860$20b54920$@charter.net> Always get in the habit of pressing on the accelerator slightly when pulling out the choke knob. That will reduce the amount of force needed to advance the throttle cam. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robert fabie Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 8:35 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Stiff Choke Cable Friends, Is there a trick to connecting the choke cables to the carbs that results in the choke knob operating smoothly? It seems to take a lot of force to pull and push the choke cable knob. When not connected to the carbs, the cable operates smoothly and effortlessly. Does anyone else have this problem? Much appreciate your help. Bob '75 TR6 ________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/aljlthomson at charter.net From lang at isis.mit.edu Fri Jun 29 07:25:13 2012 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 09:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Stiff Choke Cable In-Reply-To: <000801cd55f8$0ae71860$20b54920$@charter.net> References: <000801cd55f8$0ae71860$20b54920$@charter.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jun 2012, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote: > Always get in the habit of pressing on the accelerator slightly when pulling > out the choke knob. That will reduce the amount of force needed to advance > the throttle cam. Not to be funny - but this actually is documented in the TR6 owner's manual!! I don't have it in front of me but it says something like "always depress the accelerator before pulling the choke knob" or words to that effect. As they say in the vernacular: Word up. > Alex Thomson regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------