From jhmdds at aol.com Wed Feb 2 12:50:22 2011 From: jhmdds at aol.com (jhmdds at aol.com) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:50:22 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Group 44 paint color Message-ID: <8CD912990408F34-10B0-3CF1@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> I'd like to get some pinstriping and decals for my TR 7 in the same light green color used on the Group 44 Racing cars. Can anyone help with a paint color code or color name or some identification I can go to the decal maker with? Thanks, James Maddox From tr6taylor at webtv.net Wed Feb 2 13:13:39 2011 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 20:13:39 GMT Subject: [6pack] Old Triumphs Message-ID: Peter Egan tells a nice story about how Triumphs should never be scrapped, in this month's (March issue) of Road&Track. Many of us can relate! Especially Andy? Dick From tpdwinch at yahoo.com Wed Feb 2 16:13:06 2011 From: tpdwinch at yahoo.com (Dale) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:13:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Group 44 paint color In-Reply-To: <8CD912990408F34-10B0-3CF1@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CD912990408F34-10B0-3CF1@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <275252.42143.qm@web36107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> James I beleive that the light color on the stripe is Triton Green. You could ask here as they have made a replica of the Group 44 car. http://www.thewedgeshop.com/ Dale ________________________________ From: "jhmdds at aol.com" To: 6pack at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 2:50:22 PM Subject: [6pack] Group 44 paint color I'd like to get some pinstriping and decals for my TR 7 in the same light green color used on the Group 44 Racing cars. Can anyone help with a paint color code or color name or some identification I can go to the decal maker with? Thanks, James Maddox _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tpdwinch at yahoo.com From trglory at verizon.net Wed Feb 2 17:48:32 2011 From: trglory at verizon.net (Joe Laurito) Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 19:48:32 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Group 44 paint color In-Reply-To: <275252.42143.qm@web36107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8CD912990408F34-10B0-3CF1@webmail-d067.sysops.aol.com> <275252.42143.qm@web36107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006901cbc33c$16896bf0$439c43d0$@net> I think you mean here http://www.lanocharacing.com/ Joe -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 6:13 PM To: jhmdds at aol.com; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Group 44 paint color James I beleive that the light color on the stripe is Triton Green. You could ask here as they have made a replica of the Group 44 car. http://www.thewedgeshop.com/ Dale ________________________________ From: "jhmdds at aol.com" To: 6pack at autox.team.net Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 2:50:22 PM Subject: [6pack] Group 44 paint color I'd like to get some pinstriping and decals for my TR 7 in the same light green color used on the Group 44 Racing cars. Can anyone help with a paint color code or color name or some identification I can go to the decal maker with? Thanks, James Maddox _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tpdwinch at yahoo.com _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/trglory at verizon.net From mailkendall at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 2 22:05:52 2011 From: mailkendall at sbcglobal.net (Kendall Larsen) Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:05:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure Message-ID: <779754.21342.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi List, My car has behaving itself for quite awhile but the last time I drove it the ignition cut out on me 3 times, twice in the middle of intersections shortly after the light turned green. The ignition just goes completely dead, and the car doesn't even crank or click or anything for about 5-10 seconds which feels like an eternity when traffic is waiting on you. Obviously that doesn't make me very excited to drive my car until I am able to sort out what this issue is. It did this once on me a few weeks back when I was at an intersection and shifted into reverse to back out of the crosswalk, but I was able to restart the car before the light turned green. So what I've got to go on so far is, ignition cuts out with out warning, the head lights remain on and bright during the "time out", after a hanful of seconds of turning the key the starter finally cranks and the engine starts immediately. The battery is new. I am using a Crane XR700 ignition module, though I think that is irrelevant. I looked at the electrical schematic and there are only a few items that it can be. 1. Ignition switch 2. Starter relay 3. Seat belt interlock module (74 1/2 model) 4. Transmission neutral switch I think I have talked my self out of faulty seat belt module and starter relay because, while if they are malfunctioning they would keep the car from cranking. I don't think they have a means of taking down the ignition once the car is running? Does that sound reasonable? I haven't looked that closely at the transmission neutral switch, I think it is just part of the seat belt interlock module as well. So I think I'm left with the possibility of a faulty ignition switch, does anyone have any suggestions for testing an intermittent ignition switch short of just replacing it and driving the car around and hoping for the best? Thanks for any ideas you can share! I cross posted this to the forums as well if you want to follow along there: http://www.6-pack.org/j15/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=20&id=172966&Itemid=85 From trsix74 at comcast.net Thu Feb 3 05:01:45 2011 From: trsix74 at comcast.net (trsix74 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 12:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure In-Reply-To: <779754.21342.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1350162572.2874.1296734505311.JavaMail.root@sz0068a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Check your coil and coil wires. From william.mcintire at wright.edu Thu Feb 3 05:19:56 2011 From: william.mcintire at wright.edu (William McIntire) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 07:19:56 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure In-Reply-To: <779754.21342.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <779754.21342.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5fb0ebac3a2b3.4d4a571c@wright.edu> Check the wires on the ignition module inside the dist. Have had them rub the dist. cam and wear off insulation. This shorts to ground and creates a problem with current flow. Can be intermittent short and drive you nuts locating it. This was on a Speedster not my 6, I'm just saying. Good luck ----- Original Message ----- From: Kendall Larsen Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011 12:06 am Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure To: 6pack List <6pack at autox.team.net> > Hi List, > > My car has behaving itself for quite awhile but the last time I > drove it the > ignition cut out on me 3 times, twice in the middle of > intersections shortly > after the light turned green. The ignition just goes > completely dead, and the > car doesn't even crank or click or anything for about 5-10 > seconds which feels > like an eternity when traffic is waiting on you. Obviously > that doesn't make me > very excited to drive my car until I am able to sort out > what this issue is. It > did this once on me a few weeks back when I was at an > intersection and shifted > into reverse to back out of the crosswalk, but I was able > to restart the car > before the light turned green. > > So what I've got to go on so far is, ignition cuts out with out > warning, the > head lights remain on and bright during the "time out", after > a hanful of > seconds of turning the key the starter finally cranks and > the engine starts > immediately. The battery is new. I am using a Crane XR700 > ignition module, > though I think that is irrelevant. > > > I looked at the electrical schematic and there are only a few > items that it can > be. > 1. Ignition switch > 2. Starter relay > 3. Seat belt interlock module (74 1/2 model) > 4. Transmission neutral switch > > I think I have talked my self out of faulty seat belt module and > starter relay > because, while if they are malfunctioning they would keep the > car from > cranking. I don't think they have a means of taking down > the ignition once the > car is running? Does that sound reasonable? > > I haven't looked that closely at the transmission neutral > switch, I think it is > just part of the seat belt interlock module as well. > > > So I think I'm left with the possibility of a faulty ignition > switch, does > anyone have any suggestions for testing an intermittent > ignition switch short > of just replacing it and driving the car around and hoping > for the best? > > > Thanks for any ideas you can share! > > I cross posted this to the forums as well if you want to follow > along there: > http://www.6- > pack.org/j15/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=20&id=172966&Itemid=85_______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/william.mcintire at wright.edu From v.navarrette at comcast.net Thu Feb 3 09:59:38 2011 From: v.navarrette at comcast.net (Vance Navarrette) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 08:59:38 -0800 Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure In-Reply-To: <779754.21342.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <779754.21342.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000301cbc3c3$bed65e30$3c831a90$@navarrette@comcast.net> Kendall: My 74-1/2 had almost the exact same symptoms with stock ignition. Turns out it was a blown fuse for the circuit that handles the power to the interlock module - for some reason that introduces a lengthy delay before the engine will crank. I don't remember what made me think it might be a blown fuse in the first place, since everything in the car still worked, it just had a long delay before the engine would crank. Anyway, check your fuses! Vance -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kendall Larsen Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:06 PM To: 6pack List Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure Hi List, So what I've got to go on so far is, ignition cuts out with out warning, the head lights remain on and bright during the "time out", after a hanful of seconds of turning the key the starter finally cranks and the engine starts immediately. The battery is new. I am using a Crane XR700 ignition module, though I think that is irrelevant. I looked at the electrical schematic and there are only a few items that it can be. 1. Ignition switch 2. Starter relay 3. Seat belt interlock module (74 1/2 model) 4. Transmission neutral switch I think I have talked my self out of faulty seat belt module and starter relay because, while if they are malfunctioning they would keep the car from cranking. I don't think they have a means of taking down the ignition once the car is running? Does that sound reasonable? Thanks for any ideas you can share! From lfm614 at aol.com Thu Feb 3 10:10:09 2011 From: lfm614 at aol.com (lfm614 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:10:09 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure In-Reply-To: <000301cbc3c3$bed65e30$3c831a90$@navarrette@comcast.net> References: <779754.21342.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com><000301cbc3c3$bed65e30$3c831a90$@navarrette@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1766764104-1296752949-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-19761443-@bda113.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Kendall, Answered your post on the forums for more detail but bypass the interlock by jumping WO and WR. That's what BL did in 75. Lou 72 Pimento -----Original Message----- From: "Vance Navarrette" Sender: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 08:59:38 To: 'Kendall Larsen'; '6pack List'<6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure Kendall: My 74-1/2 had almost the exact same symptoms with stock ignition. Turns out it was a blown fuse for the circuit that handles the power to the interlock module - for some reason that introduces a lengthy delay before the engine will crank. I don't remember what made me think it might be a blown fuse in the first place, since everything in the car still worked, it just had a long delay before the engine would crank. Anyway, check your fuses! Vance -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kendall Larsen Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:06 PM To: 6pack List Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure Hi List, So what I've got to go on so far is, ignition cuts out with out warning, the head lights remain on and bright during the "time out", after a hanful of seconds of turning the key the starter finally cranks and the engine starts immediately. The battery is new. I am using a Crane XR700 ignition module, though I think that is irrelevant. I looked at the electrical schematic and there are only a few items that it can be. 1. Ignition switch 2. Starter relay 3. Seat belt interlock module (74 1/2 model) 4. Transmission neutral switch I think I have talked my self out of faulty seat belt module and starter relay because, while if they are malfunctioning they would keep the car from cranking. I don't think they have a means of taking down the ignition once the car is running? Does that sound reasonable? Thanks for any ideas you can share! _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/lfm614 at aol.com From lfm614 at aol.com Thu Feb 3 10:10:58 2011 From: lfm614 at aol.com (lfm614 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 17:10:58 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure In-Reply-To: <000301cbc3c3$bed65e30$3c831a90$@navarrette@comcast.net> References: <779754.21342.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com><000301cbc3c3$bed65e30$3c831a90$@navarrette@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1766764104-1296752960-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1264572320-@bda113.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Kendall, Answered your post on the forums for more detail but bypass the interlock by jumping WO and WR. That's what BL did in 75. Lou 72 Pimento -----Original Message----- From: "Vance Navarrette" Sender: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 08:59:38 To: 'Kendall Larsen'; '6pack List'<6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure Kendall: My 74-1/2 had almost the exact same symptoms with stock ignition. Turns out it was a blown fuse for the circuit that handles the power to the interlock module - for some reason that introduces a lengthy delay before the engine will crank. I don't remember what made me think it might be a blown fuse in the first place, since everything in the car still worked, it just had a long delay before the engine would crank. Anyway, check your fuses! Vance -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kendall Larsen Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 9:06 PM To: 6pack List Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure Hi List, So what I've got to go on so far is, ignition cuts out with out warning, the head lights remain on and bright during the "time out", after a hanful of seconds of turning the key the starter finally cranks and the engine starts immediately. The battery is new. I am using a Crane XR700 ignition module, though I think that is irrelevant. I looked at the electrical schematic and there are only a few items that it can be. 1. Ignition switch 2. Starter relay 3. Seat belt interlock module (74 1/2 model) 4. Transmission neutral switch I think I have talked my self out of faulty seat belt module and starter relay because, while if they are malfunctioning they would keep the car from cranking. I don't think they have a means of taking down the ignition once the car is running? Does that sound reasonable? Thanks for any ideas you can share! _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/lfm614 at aol.com From tr6taylor at webtv.net Thu Feb 3 13:53:07 2011 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 20:53:07 GMT Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure Message-ID: Kendall---You wrote that the engine doesn't "crank, or click, or anything". If you bipass the seat belt interlock and still find the problem, I'd suggest a battery connection circuit is incomplete. (Suspect ground strap)? One check may be to see if the red in. light, which should come on when turning the key, goes out or dims. It would certainly be more convenient if you could duplicate the problem at your home, by adding a second ground strap between the body, chassis and neg. battery post. You may want to do this anyway, for peace of mind! If the engine makes no sound when turning the key to the start position, the problem is before the distributor, coil, etc. Dick From aljlthomson at charter.net Thu Feb 3 14:52:22 2011 From: aljlthomson at charter.net (Alex&Janet Thomson) Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:52:22 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure References: <779754.21342.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7DC05EE490F443FA98E28E860BDAEF0E@D6254Z51> Kendall - I would suspect that the battery feed to the ignition switch would be a place to begin with. If you lose both ignition as well as starting functions, then the common denominator might be that feed. Has the fuse for that feed been replaced with a re-set circuit breaker? That would explain the "return to normal" that you experience. As always, check the complete battery ground circuit, including the connection from the engine block to the body. Alex Thomson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kendall Larsen" To: "6pack List" <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:05 AM Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure > Hi List, > > My car has behaving itself for quite awhile but the last time I drove it > the > ignition cut out on me 3 times, twice in the middle of intersections > shortly > after the light turned green. The ignition just goes completely dead, and > the > car doesn't even crank or click or anything for about 5-10 seconds which > feels > like an eternity when traffic is waiting on you. Obviously that doesn't > make me > very excited to drive my car until I am able to sort out what this issue > is. It > did this once on me a few weeks back when I was at an intersection and > shifted > into reverse to back out of the crosswalk, but I was able to restart the > car > before the light turned green. > > I cross posted this to the forums as well if you want to follow along > there: > http://www.6-pack.org/j15/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=20&id=172966&Itemid=85 > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/aljlthomson at charter.net From FSZEK at aol.com Fri Feb 4 19:00:57 2011 From: FSZEK at aol.com (FSZEK at aol.com) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 21:00:57 EST Subject: [6pack] TR6 Frame help Message-ID: <6849b.49b2a295.3a7e0959@aol.com> Hi All- My 1970 TR6 needs framework. I seem to remember a shop in Western PA. Need help ID'ing. Are they still in business? Thanks, Frank From lfritz82 at hotmail.com Fri Feb 4 21:17:51 2011 From: lfritz82 at hotmail.com (Lorne Fritz) Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 23:17:51 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Frame help In-Reply-To: <6849b.49b2a295.3a7e0959@aol.com> References: <6849b.49b2a295.3a7e0959@aol.com> Message-ID: Frank, I'm not sure where your located but I'm in the middle of Pennsylvania. Over the years I've fixed many rusty TR6 frame. Give me a call. Lorne Fritz Sports Car Haven > From: FSZEK at aol.com > Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 21:00:57 -0500 > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] TR6 Frame help > > Hi All- > My 1970 TR6 needs framework. I seem to remember a shop in Western PA. > Need help ID'ing. > > Are they still in business? > > > Thanks, > > > Frank > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/lfritz82 at hotmail.com From john70350 at msn.com Sat Feb 5 21:26:54 2011 From: john70350 at msn.com (John Johnson) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 04:26:54 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Engine Pushrod Length Message-ID: Hey Guys, I'm trying to locate a link to a webpage that shows the various lengths of Triumph 6 cylinder engine pushrods. I used to have it and cannot find it, anyone know where I might find the specs? Thanks, John Johnson From john70350 at msn.com Sun Feb 6 19:11:51 2011 From: john70350 at msn.com (John Johnson) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 02:11:51 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Oil pan pin hole Message-ID: Besides replacing the pan itself, any recommendations for repairing a pin hole in an engine oil pan? Epoxy, braze, weld or maybe JB weld. Anyone successfully deal with this? John From mailkendall at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 6 23:20:45 2011 From: mailkendall at sbcglobal.net (Kendall Larsen) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 22:20:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Random Ignition Failure In-Reply-To: <7DC05EE490F443FA98E28E860BDAEF0E@D6254Z51> References: <779754.21342.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7DC05EE490F443FA98E28E860BDAEF0E@D6254Z51> Message-ID: <28763.83289.qm@web82604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks for the replies, I had some time to look into things yesterday, I found a few things. Not news to people who already had studied the schematics, but I found out the following. The car will continue to run with: - The starter relay unplugged - The seat belt interlock module unplugged - All of the fuses pulled I also connected the WO and WR wires going into the seat belt interlock module (and left it unplugged) so that will not keep the starter from functioning anymore. I've been meaning to do that for awhile, so it will no longer be an issue. I inspected the wiring and found that the rivets on the back of the ignition switch were a little bit suspect. And then I was attempting to remove the electrical part of the ignition switch before seeing that it was held in place a set screw and broke the switch. Oops. So a new electrical portion of the ignition switch is definitely order and hopefully that will be that. Thanks for the input guys! Thread on the forums: http://www.6-pack.org/j15/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=20&id=172966&Itemid=85#173438 From yellowtr at adelphia.net Mon Feb 7 05:48:52 2011 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 07:48:52 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Oil pan pin hole In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201102070748.53622.yellowtr@adelphia.net> On Sunday, February 06, 2011 09:11:51 pm John Johnson wrote: > Besides replacing the pan itself, any recommendations for repairing a pin > hole in an engine oil pan? Epoxy, braze, weld or maybe JB weld. Anyone > successfully deal with this? > > John > John, First question is how did a pin hole get in the oil pan? I would clean it off and have it brazed with a spot of brass. The heat of the torch will burn away any oil in the metal and insure a solid fix as long as the hole is very small. And you really can control the heat with a torch. Best to have the pan off the engine for this fix. Not sure JB weld would work unless the surface was very clean. Bob From jrmcarthur2009 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 7 15:54:50 2011 From: jrmcarthur2009 at yahoo.com (James Mc Arthur) Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:54:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] oil pan pin hole Message-ID: <656594.8919.qm@web113903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hi John........Speaking as a guy who has made his living as a welder for the last 30 years, you have several options. The oil pan is not under pressure, so if it was me, I'd braze it. However, brazing is something that can only be done in the flat position; horizontal can be done, but it's tricky. Any of the welding processes would also work, but the heat involved in the concern. Read that as FIRE HAZARD. I would recommend that if you are considering these options, the pan be removed and thoroughly cleaned. Epoxy and/or JB Weld depends on the surface being grease and oil free. If this can be arranged, this may be your best course of action. If either of these methods are employed, the success is directly related to the cleanliness of the affected area. The good news is that either of these methods would probably work with the pan installed on the engine. Of course, all of the above assumes that the size of the hole is small. You neglected to inform the list of it's diameter. Feel free to contact me if you have any concerns or questions. Best of luck! Regards...............Jim McArthur From triosan at gmail.com Wed Feb 9 13:33:47 2011 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:33:47 -0800 Subject: [6pack] Herman Van den Akker faked message Message-ID: The Triumph mailing list, or Heman's may have been hacked. Any of you who have received a message ostensibly from him about needing money to transport a cousin home from England should know it is a fake. DO NOT SEND money. I talked to hi a few minutes ago. He is in Californai nt England. he is aware of the problem and is working with Microsoft to reolve it. -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley From sakirsis at consolidated.net Wed Feb 9 13:36:02 2011 From: sakirsis at consolidated.net (Steve Kirsis) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:36:02 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Cooling Fan Message-ID: <17475480D9744AC181D06FECD0132F4C@stevekirsisPC> Hi Gang, I am in a position with an engine swap starting this week on my '70 Damson 6 to perhaps make a couple of mods to the cooling system or any system for that matter, but right now swapping out the original cooling fan with an electric version is at the top of the list. Any imput would be appreciated. Thanks Steve Kirsis, '70 and '75 TR-6's, Cold in Houston!! E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.16310 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From anabil007 at comcast.net Wed Feb 9 14:07:43 2011 From: anabil007 at comcast.net (Bill) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:07:43 -0800 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Herman Van den Akker faked message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Got the message, sent a copy to Cert ... They sent this follow up message: US-CERT has received your report and has assigned incident number PH0000000835226 for future reference. >The Triumph mailing list, or Heman's may have been hacked. Any of you who >have received a message ostensibly from him about needing money to transport >a cousin home from England should know it is a fake. DO NOT SEND money. I >talked to hi a few minutes ago. He is in Californai nt England. he is aware >of the problem and is working with Microsoft to reolve it. -- "Thinking is the hardest work there is. That's why so few people undertake it." - Henry Ford Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 "Casper" TS16765L Wallace, CA From forzion at maine.rr.com Wed Feb 9 14:13:36 2011 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (David Friedlander) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 16:13:36 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Cooling Fan In-Reply-To: <17475480D9744AC181D06FECD0132F4C@stevekirsisPC> References: <17475480D9744AC181D06FECD0132F4C@stevekirsisPC> Message-ID: <4D530380.90607@maine.rr.com> Steve; I'd heartily recommend Rick Patton's Fan Eliminator Kit See http://www.pattonmachine.com/FanEliminator.htm This can also be seen on Bob Danielson's very helpful website http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Fan_Eliminator.htm Cheers! Dave Friedlander Colder in Maine On 2/9/2011 3:36 PM, Steve Kirsis wrote: > Hi Gang, I am in a position with an engine swap starting this week on my '70 > Damson 6 to perhaps make a couple of mods to the cooling system or any system > for that matter, but right now swapping out the original cooling fan with an > electric version is at the top of the list. Any imput would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Steve Kirsis, '70 and '75 TR-6's, Cold in Houston!! From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Wed Feb 9 14:39:17 2011 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 16:39:17 -0500 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Herman Van den Akker faked message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What's really weird about the email is that the idiot who hacked his account and is asking for money........never says in the email where to send the money! Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org 1975 TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff & CVJs -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:33 PM To: Triumph ; TR list Subject: [TR] Herman Van den Akker faked message The Triumph mailing list, or Heman's may have been hacked. Any of you who have received a message ostensibly from him about needing money to transport a cousin home from England should know it is a fake. DO NOT SEND money. I talked to hi a few minutes ago. He is in Californai nt England. he is aware of the problem and is working with Microsoft to reolve it. -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley _______________________________________________ Triumphs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Manage your account: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From j.honor at comcast.net Wed Feb 9 16:01:02 2011 From: j.honor at comcast.net (Joe Honor) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 17:01:02 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Cooling Fan In-Reply-To: <17475480D9744AC181D06FECD0132F4C@stevekirsisPC> References: <17475480D9744AC181D06FECD0132F4C@stevekirsisPC> Message-ID: <27327F19-BDFC-4908-B5AE-1CF32F98CF1D@comcast.net> I agree with choosing Rick Patton's fan eliminator easy install & quick speed gain also consider arthur lipp for great fan and spall fan combo using wizard aluminum rad great kit & Arthur's superior service lipp04 at yahoo.com Regards Joe Joe Honor / Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2011, at 2:36 PM, "Steve Kirsis" wrote: > Hi Gang, I am in a position with an engine swap starting this week on my '70 > Damson 6 to perhaps make a couple of mods to the cooling system or any system > for that matter, but right now swapping out the original cooling fan with an > electric version is at the top of the list. Any imput would be appreciated. > Thanks > Steve Kirsis, '70 and '75 TR-6's, Cold in Houston!! > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) > Database version: 6.16310 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/j.honor at comcast.net From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Wed Feb 9 16:55:24 2011 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 18:55:24 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Cooling Fan In-Reply-To: <27327F19-BDFC-4908-B5AE-1CF32F98CF1D@comcast.net> References: <17475480D9744AC181D06FECD0132F4C@stevekirsisPC> <27327F19-BDFC-4908-B5AE-1CF32F98CF1D@comcast.net> Message-ID: Art puts together an excellent package at a very good price. We can argue the benefits of an aluminum radiator (cost vs any additional cooling advantage) but hopefully we can agree that they look very cool. In any case........... if you want to see the package that Art offers, you can view it here http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Radiator.htm And Steve.............cold in Houston gets you no sympathy form those of us in the northeast buried under snow and ice........... Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org 1975 TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff & CVJs -----Original Message----- From: Joe Honor Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 6:01 PM To: Steve Kirsis Cc: 6pack Subject: Re: [6pack] Cooling Fan I agree with choosing Rick Patton's fan eliminator easy install & quick speed gain also consider arthur lipp for great fan and spall fan combo using wizard aluminum rad great kit & Arthur's superior service lipp04 at yahoo.com Regards Joe Joe Honor / Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2011, at 2:36 PM, "Steve Kirsis" wrote: > Hi Gang, I am in a position with an engine swap starting this week on my '70 > Damson 6 to perhaps make a couple of mods to the cooling system or any system > for that matter, but right now swapping out the original cooling fan with an > electric version is at the top of the list. Any imput would be > appreciated. > Thanks > Steve Kirsis, '70 and '75 TR-6's, Cold in Houston!! From mark at bradakis.com Wed Feb 9 21:00:25 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:00:25 -0700 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Herman Van den Akker faked message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D5362D9.9020406@bradakis.com> Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > The Triumph mailing list, or Heman's may have been hacked. Any of you who > have received a message ostensibly from him about needing money to transport > a cousin home from England should know it is a fake. DO NOT SEND money. I > talked to hi a few minutes ago. He is in Californai nt England. he is aware > of the problem and is working with Microsoft to reolve it. > > Microsoft *is* the problem. But people will keep sending them money for brain dead, virus spewing garbage that has no business being anywhere near a network. So it goes. mjb. From tr6taylor at webtv.net Wed Feb 9 23:29:20 2011 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:29:20 GMT Subject: [6pack] [TR] Herman Van den Akker faked message Message-ID: Herman asked me to notify the 6pack list saying his phone has been ringing off the hook since this scam began. He wanted to thank those who have let him know about it, but now asks for those well-intentioned to not make anymore calls to him on the subject. His computer will be out of service till this gets resolved. Dick Taylor From TOMKATE at shaw.ca Wed Feb 9 23:58:50 2011 From: TOMKATE at shaw.ca (TOM MARTIN) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:58:50 -0800 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Herman Van den Akker faked message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What is interesting folks is that we got the same e-mail from my sister-in-law, claiming she was in "jollyold", but as well no info on where to send the bucks,,,,go figure. Tom Martin 75TR6 ----- Original Message ----- From: Sally or Dick Taylor Date: Wednesday, February 9, 2011 10:53 pm Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Herman Van den Akker faked message To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Herman asked me to notify the 6pack list saying his phone has > been ringing off the hook since this scam began. He wanted to > thank those who have let him know about it, but now asks for > those well-intentioned to not make anymore calls to him on the > subject. His computer will be out of service till this gets resolved. > > Dick Taylor > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tomkate at shaw.ca From yellowtr at adelphia.net Thu Feb 10 05:42:30 2011 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:42:30 -0500 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Herman Van den Akker faked message In-Reply-To: <4D5362D9.9020406@bradakis.com> References: <4D5362D9.9020406@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <201102100742.31577.yellowtr@adelphia.net> On Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:00:25 pm Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > > The Triumph mailing list, or Heman's may have been hacked. Any of you > > who have received a message ostensibly from him about needing money to > > transport a cousin home from England should know it is a fake. DO NOT > > SEND money. I talked to hi a few minutes ago. He is in Californai nt > > England. he is aware of the problem and is working with Microsoft to > > reolve it. > > Microsoft *is* the problem. But people will keep sending them > money for brain dead, virus spewing garbage that has no business > being anywhere near a network. So it goes. > > mjb. > > > Mark, It is called "Marketing". They have also created a very large support industry just to keep the Windows systems viable. With all the free Linux systems available, I am not too sure why so many stick with Windows. Bob From acs25m at swbell.net Thu Feb 10 08:39:20 2011 From: acs25m at swbell.net (acs25m at swbell.net) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:39:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] [TR] Herman Van den Akker faked message In-Reply-To: <201102100742.31577.yellowtr@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <462201.57997.qm@web82601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I you read the email carefully you can tell it is not being written by Herman. The language is wrong. All of these spam and letters asking for money have this in common. --- On Thu, 2/10/11, Bob wrote: From: Bob Subject: Re: [TR] Herman Van den Akker faked message To: triumphs at autox.team.net Cc: "Triumph" <6pack at autox.team.net> Date: Thursday, February 10, 2011, 6:42 AM On Wednesday, February 09, 2011 11:00:25 pm Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > > The Triumph mailing list, or Heman's may have been hacked. Any of you > > who have received a message ostensibly from him about needing money to > > transport a cousin home from England should know it is a fake. DO NOT > > SEND money. I talked to hi a few minutes ago. He is in Californai nt > > England. he is aware of the problem and is working with Microsoft to > > reolve it. > > Microsoft *is* the problem. But people will keep sending them > money for brain dead, virus spewing garbage that has no business > being anywhere near a network. So it goes. > > mjb. > > > Mark, It is called "Marketing". They have also created a very large support industry just to keep the Windows systems viable. With all the free Linux systems available, I am not too sure why so many stick with Windows. Bob _______________________________________________ Triumphs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Manage your account: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/acs25m at swbell.net From sakirsis at consolidated.net Thu Feb 10 11:03:44 2011 From: sakirsis at consolidated.net (Steve Kirsis) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:03:44 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Cooling Fan In-Reply-To: <4D530380.90607@maine.rr.com> References: <17475480D9744AC181D06FECD0132F4C@stevekirsisPC> <4D530380.90607@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: Thanks Dave and all who replied to my help ad. I just E mailed Arthur Lipp to get some info on his radiator setup which along with Rick Patton's Fan Eliminator looks like a good fit when it looks like a puller is needed to fit with an oil cooler. Nice looking set-up. See what Art says. Steve Kirsis---- Original Message ----- From: "David Friedlander" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [6pack] Cooling Fan > Steve; > > I'd heartily recommend Rick Patton's Fan Eliminator Kit > See http://www.pattonmachine.com/FanEliminator.htm > > This can also be seen on Bob Danielson's very helpful website > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Fan_Eliminator.htm > > Cheers! > > Dave Friedlander > Colder in Maine > > > On 2/9/2011 3:36 PM, Steve Kirsis wrote: >> Hi Gang, I am in a position with an engine swap starting this week on my >> '70 >> Damson 6 to perhaps make a couple of mods to the cooling system or any >> system >> for that matter, but right now swapping out the original cooling fan with >> an >> electric version is at the top of the list. Any imput would be >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> >> Steve Kirsis, '70 and '75 TR-6's, Cold in Houston!! > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/sakirsis at consolidated.net > > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) > Database version: 6.16310 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.16310 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From mblunsfordsr at yahoo.com Thu Feb 10 13:33:38 2011 From: mblunsfordsr at yahoo.com (michael lunsford) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:33:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] AC Bracket Message-ID: <986732.5021.qm@web161214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Does anyone out there have a good photo of the bracket that holds the AC compressor to the motor? I have a newly fabricated bracket from my AC guy that looks strange and would like to compare it to the original. I know AC is not at the top of most of your lists at the moment but it is in the high 60s today here in Fla and it gets hot early. Mike Lunsford PS: If anyone was geared up to send money to Herman why not send it to Mark at the Fat Chance Garage instead, at least we get something from him. _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Thu Feb 10 21:26:07 2011 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:26:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Looking for Brake Rotor Recommendations Message-ID: <784714.58397.qm@web65609.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I found the following drilled and slotted brake rotors on ebay for TR6 1) TRW/Girling/Lucas for $117 2) Stoptech for $136 3) EBCs are over $200 The drilled and slottted are not so much for any brake performance increase. I'm putting on Rota 8 spoke racing wheels, so need to look good underneath! Sigh, the calipers are now looking a little shabby. You'll be able to see my finned aluminum drums through the back wheels. I'm leaning toward the Stoptechs, but any recommendations? Thank you, Bruce Simms From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Fri Feb 11 14:47:53 2011 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:47:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Rimmer Sale on Now (SS Exhaust) Message-ID: <886009.66839.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> You could get the twin ss sports system with the full header for 705 + shipping if I've got the exchange right. Tempting, but lots of projects. Guess I could sub this out to a good muffler shop. Shipping cost? Do these systems (Falcon brand I think) fit right up out of the box? Not every shop can bend stainless. Thanks, Bruce Simms From tr6parts at charter.net Fri Feb 11 16:38:28 2011 From: tr6parts at charter.net (Al Salvatore) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:38:28 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Rimmer Sale on Now (SS Exhaust) References: <886009.66839.qm@web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <13DA0065064740E78BFB98D322DA6FD8@Alan> Yes, It fits right up. No problem. You do need to use one cap bolt. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Simms" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:47 PM Subject: [6pack] Rimmer Sale on Now (SS Exhaust) > You could get the twin ss sports system with the full header for 705 + > shipping > if I've got the exchange right. > > Tempting, but lots of projects. > Guess I could sub this out to a good muffler > shop. Shipping cost? > > Do these > systems (Falcon brand I think) fit right up out of the box? Not every > shop > can bend stainless. > > Thanks, Bruce Simms > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6parts at charter.net From forzion at maine.rr.com Sat Feb 12 07:08:08 2011 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (David Friedlander) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:08:08 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Modifying Finned Aluminum Brake Drums Message-ID: <4D569448.5070905@maine.rr.com> Good morning, list! Spring, they say, is on the way... But, from here, it still looks like there's way too much snow to think that way.... Does anyone have the specs for how to modify the finned aluminum drums off a 240Z to fit the TR6?Any help/specs/drawings you could send along would be *much *appreciated! Dave Friedlander CF25194U+O+TBI Maine From tr6parts at charter.net Sat Feb 12 07:39:03 2011 From: tr6parts at charter.net (Al Salvatore) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:39:03 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Modifying Finned Aluminum Brake Drums References: <4D569448.5070905@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <03079000C24645738780FC3B7A2BAA46@Alan> Make sure its still within spec, the ones I found were at the limit. Take an old drum with it to a machine shop, they can match it up. The hub needs to be opened up a touch. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Friedlander" To: "6-Pack" <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 9:08 AM Subject: [6pack] Modifying Finned Aluminum Brake Drums > Good morning, list! > > Spring, they say, is on the way... But, from here, it still looks like > there's way too much snow to think that way.... > > Does anyone have the specs for how to modify the finned aluminum > drums off a 240Z to fit the TR6?Any help/specs/drawings you could > send along would be *much *appreciated! > > Dave Friedlander > CF25194U+O+TBI > Maine > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6parts at charter.net From TRDOCTOR at aol.com Sat Feb 12 12:31:49 2011 From: TRDOCTOR at aol.com (TRDOCTOR at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:31:49 EST Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <8ff1a.76bb4d56.3a883a25@aol.com> I don't know if anyone knows of Anatoly Atunoff (sp) but he was involved in a hit and run accident outside of Amarillo, TX a few days ago. He built, or had a hand in, building Hallet raceway 35 mile west of Tulsa, OK. I have met him on occasion and participate in one of our All British Day events and I can't remember if he brought a Bristol or a Cooper. He was an accomplished driver "in the day" and we are all praying for his recovery. Please read the link below for more information. Sam Clark Green Country Triumphs http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=14015212&Call=Email&Format=Text From slowtoaccept at yahoo.com Sat Feb 12 13:23:26 2011 From: slowtoaccept at yahoo.com (Jerry C Shaw) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:23:26 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Modifying Finned Aluminum Brake Drums In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dave Keep warm up there. CT got a lot of snow, too, maybe more than Maine. In order to clear the backing plate, the 240Z drums need to be machined and the diameter of the drum enlarged 0.080" on a side by 0.500" into the drum, and both the center hole and the stud holes enlarged slightly. If you are a real stickler for detail, even the two holes for the small flathead retaining screws may be accurately found by first mounting the finned drums after you get them back, then placing an old iron drum backwards against the finned one, using the wheel studs as locators, and carefully marking the hole locations with drill of the correct diameter, but only kissing the aluminum to make the mark for final drilling. I suppose the machine shop could have done the small holes, too, but I didn't think of it until I got home. It's probably just as accurate the way I did it. For awhile, TRF was selling modified Brembo drums. Maybe they still do, but I purchased mine new off the internet and had a machine shop do the rest for about $70. There were complaints of deep scratches caused by TRF's suppliers. See my car and these drums on http://www.triumphowners.com/977 Jerry Shaw 1974 TR6 Mallard Green (newly restored) Message: 3 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:08:08 -0500 From: David Friedlander Subject: [6pack] Modifying Finned Aluminum Brake Drums To: 6-Pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4D569448.5070905 at maine.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good morning, list! Spring, they say, is on the way... But, from here, it still looks like there's way too much snow to think that way.... Does anyone have the specs for how to modify the finned aluminum drums off a 240Z to fit the TR6?Any help/specs/drawings you could send along would be *much *appreciated! Dave Friedlander CF25194U+O+TBI Maine ------------------------------ From TRDOCTOR at aol.com Sat Feb 12 13:40:34 2011 From: TRDOCTOR at aol.com (TRDOCTOR at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:40:34 EST Subject: [6pack] Anatoly Artunoff Message-ID: <926e3.6b6187da.3a884a42@aol.com> The newspaper reports that one leg was amputated and the other was crushed. I don't know anymore than that and relying on others for more info. Jerry Johnson is a member of our Club and a friend of and formerly raced against Toly. We are waiting for more info. Sam In a message dated 2/12/2011 2:07:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, spook01 at comcast.net writes: Yeah. The "mad Russian" and his Morgan racer! Very nice guy, had the "first and second polar prim". What's his condition?? R Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: TRDOCTOR at aol.com Date: Sat, Feb 12, 2011 14:31 Subject: [TR] (no subject) To: , <6pack at autox.team.net> I don't know if anyone knows of Anatoly Atunoff (sp) but he was involved in a hit and run accident outside of Amarillo, TX a few days ago. He built, or had a hand in, building Hallet raceway 35 mile west of Tulsa, OK. I have met him on occasion and participate in one of our All British Day events and I can't remember if he brought a Bristol or a Cooper. He was an accomplished driver "in the day" and we are all praying for his recovery. Please read the link below for more information. Sam Clark Green Country Triumphs _http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=14015212&Call=Email&Format=Text_ (http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=14015212&Call=Email&Format=Text) _______________________________________________ Triumphs at autox.team.net Donate: _http://www.team.net/donate.html_ (http://www.team.net/donate.html) Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: _http://www.team.net/archive_ (http://www.team.net/archive) Forums: _http://www.team.net/forums_ (http://www.team.net/forums) Manage your account: _http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01 at comcast.net_ (http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01 at comcast.net) From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Sat Feb 12 14:03:55 2011 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:03:55 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Anatoly Artunoff In-Reply-To: <926e3.6b6187da.3a884a42@aol.com> References: <926e3.6b6187da.3a884a42@aol.com> Message-ID: Hemmings had a short article here http://tinyurl.com/47p7byy Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org 1975 TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff & CVJs -----Original Message----- From: TRDOCTOR at aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 3:40 PM To: spook01 at comcast.net ; triumphs at autox.team.net ; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Anatoly Artunoff The newspaper reports that one leg was amputated and the other was crushed. I don't know anymore than that and relying on others for more info. Jerry Johnson is a member of our Club and a friend of and formerly raced against Toly. We are waiting for more info. Sam From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Sat Feb 12 14:07:43 2011 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:07:43 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Modifying Finned Aluminum Brake Drums In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jerry has a good memory about the TRF Brembos with the scratches.......... here's mine http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/BrakeUpgrade.htm Luckily the alloy's spokes hide everything. Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org 1975 TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff & CVJs -----Original Message----- From: Jerry C Shaw Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 3:23 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net ; forzion at maine.rr.com Subject: Re: [6pack] Modifying Finned Aluminum Brake Drums Hi Dave Keep warm up there. CT got a lot of snow, too, maybe more than Maine. In order to clear the backing plate, the 240Z drums need to be machined and the diameter of the drum enlarged 0.080" on a side by 0.500" into the drum, and both the center hole and the stud holes enlarged slightly. If you are a real stickler for detail, even the two holes for the small flathead retaining screws may be accurately found by first mounting the finned drums after you get them back, then placing an old iron drum backwards against the finned one, using the wheel studs as locators, and carefully marking the hole locations with drill of the correct diameter, but only kissing the aluminum to make the mark for final drilling. I suppose the machine shop could have done the small holes, too, but I didn't think of it until I got home. It's probably just as accurate the way I did it. For awhile, TRF was selling modified Brembo drums. Maybe they still do, but I purchased mine new off the internet and had a machine shop do the rest for about $70. There were complaints of deep scratches caused by TRF's suppliers. See my car and these drums on http://www.triumphowners.com/977 Jerry Shaw 1974 TR6 Mallard Green (newly restored) Message: 3 Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:08:08 -0500 From: David Friedlander Subject: [6pack] Modifying Finned Aluminum Brake Drums To: 6-Pack <6pack at autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4D569448.5070905 at maine.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good morning, list! Spring, they say, is on the way... But, from here, it still looks like there's way too much snow to think that way.... Does anyone have the specs for how to modify the finned aluminum drums off a 240Z to fit the TR6?Any help/specs/drawings you could send along would be *much *appreciated! Dave Friedlander CF25194U+O+TBI Maine ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Sat Feb 12 17:11:22 2011 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 19:11:22 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Herman's Email Message-ID: <6BD2AA18ED31411887F0B9B57226F2BE@BobPC> I just had a phone call from Herman asking that I let you know hebs back online but has lost a lot of email, especially over the past few days. If anyone recently sent him email, hebs asking that you resend it. Ibll also post something in the 6-Pack & BCF Forums. Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org 1975 TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff & CVJs From forzion at maine.rr.com Sat Feb 12 18:18:18 2011 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (David Friedlander) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:18:18 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Modifying Finned Aluminum Brake Drums In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D57315A.6090406@maine.rr.com> Thanks to all who responded to my finned drum question. Using the old iron drum as a pattern for a machine shop is probably a good way to go.... Thanks, all. Dave On 2/12/2011 3:23 PM, Jerry C Shaw wrote: > Hi Dave > Keep warm up there. CT got a lot of snow, too, maybe more than Maine. > > In order to clear the backing plate, the 240Z drums need to be > machined and the diameter of the > drum enlarged 0.080" on a side by 0.500" into the drum, and both the > center hole and the stud holes > enlarged slightly. If you are a real stickler for detail, even the two > holes for the small flathead > retaining screws may be accurately found by first mounting the finned > drums after you get them > back, then placing an old iron drum backwards against the finned one, > using the wheel studs as > locators, and carefully marking the hole locations with drill of the > correct diameter, but only > kissing the aluminum to make the mark for final drilling. > > I suppose the machine shop could have done the small holes, too, but I > didn't think of it until > I got home. It's probably just as accurate the way I did it. > > For awhile, TRF was selling modified Brembo drums. Maybe they still > do, but I purchased mine > new off the internet and had a machine shop do the rest for about $70. > There were complaints > of deep scratches caused by TRF's suppliers. > > See my car and these drums on > http://www.triumphowners.com/977 > > Jerry Shaw > 1974 TR6 Mallard Green (newly restored) From john.mcmaster at netspeed.com.au Sat Feb 12 19:38:54 2011 From: john.mcmaster at netspeed.com.au (John Mc ) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 13:38:54 +1100 Subject: [6pack] Modifying Finned Aluminum Brake Drums Message-ID: <1BCFA756CE7349F2B01E501372F95B74@johnqg3ed0cywf> Dave, Not only do you need to open up the centre diameter, you'll also need to machine the recessed lip from the 240Z drums. These foul the Triumph backing plate. Sorry but I can't remember how much needs to be done but any competent lathe operator will be able to do it in about an hour. All the best, John Mc '71 TR6 PI '76 Dolomite Sprint '76 Dolomite 1850 '73 2000 Mk 2 Estate "Fast is First" [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From slowtoaccept at yahoo.com Sat Feb 12 19:45:21 2011 From: slowtoaccept at yahoo.com (Jerry C Shaw) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:45:21 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Rimmer Sale on Now (SS Exhaust) Message-ID: Bruce I have these headers and love them, but it wasn't a slam dunk. The forward header tube clearance with the big hex mounting nut required, instead, a hex socket bolt (uses an allen wrench) on cylinder 3. They had also had re-welded a section of SS tubing out from the flange. I hope it doesn't affect flow, but who knows what's left on the inside in the way of crap at the weld seam. I couldn't see that far into the tubing. I also had a machine shop resurface all of the flanges true and planar with a milling machine. The flanges have some flex and do conform upon tightening, but I was getting leaks initially from what I thought was non-planarity. I don't remember if I had to grind any flanges for clearance with my intake manifold. If I did, it was minor. Whatever you do, inspect carefully before any installation and return them if you are unhappy with the quality. I didn't do that. They are too expensive to have to do a lot of fiddling or put up with second rate workmanship. You can ask Rimmer what their return policy is beforehand and demand no reworked welds. You can see the Falcon exhaust here: http://www.triumphowners.com/977 Jerry Shaw '74 TR6 Mallard Green (Newly restored) Message: 1 Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 13:47:53 -0800 (PST) From: Bruce Simms Subject: [6pack] Rimmer Sale on Now (SS Exhaust) To: 6pack at autox.team.net Message-ID: <886009.66839.qm at web65608.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You could get the twin ss sports system with the full header for 705 + shipping if I've got the exchange right. Tempting, but lots of projects. Guess I could sub this out to a good muffler shop. Shipping cost? Do these systems (Falcon brand I think) fit right up out of the box? Not every shop can bend stainless. Thanks, Bruce Simms ------------------------------ From Footfrek at aol.com Sat Feb 12 20:45:10 2011 From: Footfrek at aol.com (Footfrek at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:45:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: [6pack] Wheels for tr6 Message-ID: Any one know what other car rims might fit a tr6 like a late model car. I am needing some inexpensive rims to make a rolling chassis. Thanks Jason Owen From TRDOCTOR at aol.com Sat Feb 12 20:47:15 2011 From: TRDOCTOR at aol.com (TRDOCTOR at aol.com) Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:47:15 EST Subject: [6pack] Anatoly Artunoff Message-ID: <9f92f.69abeb6a.3a88ae43@aol.com> I have only met Toly on occasion but a club member raced against him "back in the day" and relayed a story to me of Toly doing a story for Car and Driver. It was an exotic car (Ferarri) (sp) on an unopened expressway in Tulsa, OK (I-244) and got busted for it. Real car guy. Prayers to him and Karen. See Bob's link below. Sam Clark In a message dated 2/12/2011 8:46:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, 6pack-request at autox.team.net writes: http://tinyurl.com/47p7byy From yellowtr at adelphia.net Sun Feb 13 06:30:01 2011 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 08:30:01 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Wheels for tr6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201102130830.02006.yellowtr@adelphia.net> On Saturday, February 12, 2011 10:45:10 pm Footfrek at aol.com wrote: > Any one know what other car rims might fit a tr6 like a late model car. I > am needing some inexpensive rims to make a rolling chassis. > > Thanks > Jason Owen Jason, Where are you located? I have a rusty set of 72 rims. 3 with tires still mounted. I am located at 13502. Bob From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Sun Feb 13 07:20:36 2011 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:20:36 -0500 Subject: [6pack] [pack] Wheels for tr6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52E9833E764E4D3FAF6D38045615F0FE@BobPC> A space saver spare will work as you can see here http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm When you're done you can keep one and sell the other 3 to club members. After I did this last year there was a junk yard run by the 6-Pack Forum guys! Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org 1975 TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff & CVJs -----Original Message----- From: Footfrek at aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 10:45 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Wheels for tr6 Any one know what other car rims might fit a tr6 like a late model car. I am needing some inexpensive rims to make a rolling chassis. Thanks Jason Owen _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From bratt at sasktel.net Sun Feb 13 11:21:40 2011 From: bratt at sasktel.net (ed) Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:21:40 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Wheels for tr6 References: Message-ID: <000c01cbcbaa$dc07ab00$6401a8c0@CHALKIESCOMPUTER> Jason: There are lots of other cars using 4" x 4.5" bolt patterns. http://www.roadkillcustoms.com/hot-rods-rat-rods/Wheel-Bolt-Pattern-Cross-Reference-Database.asp?LugCount=4&StudSpreadInch=4.5&StudSpreadMM= Ed Bratt Regina Saskatchewan ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2011 9:45 PM Subject: [6pack] Wheels for tr6 > Any one know what other car rims might fit a tr6 like a late model car. I > am needing some inexpensive rims to make a rolling chassis. > > Thanks > Jason Owen > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/bratt at sasktel.net > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3439 - Release Date: 02/12/11 07:34:00 From emw327 at gmail.com Tue Feb 15 01:26:18 2011 From: emw327 at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?ZW1haWwg4oWcIg==?=) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:26:18 +0100 Subject: [6pack] MX5 Miata seats Message-ID: Hello, I'm a Belgian reader of the Group. I like to put Mazda MX5 seats in my TR250. Can anybody tell me how I should fix them in the car? Sincerley, Guido Van Oppen From im_sloane at hotmail.com Tue Feb 15 06:39:59 2011 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 13:39:59 +0000 Subject: [6pack] MX5 Miata seats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, I have a few pictures describing how I installed MX5 seats in the TR6 using the original TR seat rails. www.triumphowners.com/776 This technique basically makes the bottom of the MX5 seat function like the bottom of the TR seat using a couple pieces of angle iron, cut to fit, and installed with the Mazda rails removed. The seats will pivot forward as the original, but do not lock in the rear. There are also other kits available that use the Mazda seat rails to attach to the floor. Hopefully someone can post the info on those kits too. Sloane :) 69-Six > I like to put Mazda MX5 seats in my TR250. > Can anybody tell me how I should fix them in the car? > > Sincerely, > > Guido Van Oppen From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Tue Feb 15 06:56:39 2011 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 08:56:39 -0500 Subject: [6pack] MX5 Miata seats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Guido, I've got the whole process documented on my site http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/MiataSeats1.htm Make sure you get the early Miata seats as the older ones get too wide to fit without modifying the frame for the top. I made up my own brackets and then worked with Joe Alexander on his brackets. In the seat installation section, you'll find a reference to brackets that A.R.E. (Joe Alexander) makes but these won't fit a right hand drive car using seats from a RHD MX5. Joe had a customer try and they had to modify the brackets to get it all to fit. The other advantage to finding early MX5 seats is that they have a cut-out in the headrest for speakers. Bob Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org 1975 TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff & CVJs -----Original Message----- From: email b " Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 3:26 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] MX5 Miata seats Hello, I'm a Belgian reader of the Group. I like to put Mazda MX5 seats in my TR250. Can anybody tell me how I should fix them in the car? Sincerley, Guido Van Oppen From nosto53 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 15 20:23:23 2011 From: nosto53 at yahoo.com (richard olson) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:23:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Hardtop, window and door - up-down? Message-ID: <238778.96739.qm@web37507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I got my factory hardtop in 2005. In '08 I had a 'Pro' painted (OK, but not great) and put on all gaskets/bolts. I went out to drive it. The passenger side was good. The door glass goes up-down to the weatherseal. But the driver side never goes up; I get 1/2" from the top glass to the hardtop seal. Now ('11) the hardtop is in and now both up-down glasses are 1/2". Rain goes in my interior! I had a old archives e-mail with one of a two paragraph on how to fix the up-down window. (Also, the words "PITA" where there, too!) I have a 2002 archives from Jim Davis with some of this, but his had a disappointment with the windshield/hardtop. My windshield/hardtop as not binds. I need the windows to go 1/2" so I can shut the window and the top seal. (Also - Do I get new adhesive '3M' for the old (3 years) gaskets? Thanks, RickO (nosto53 at yahoo.com) 1972 TR6+5spd From Michael_Corbitt at ous.edu Wed Feb 16 13:18:43 2011 From: Michael_Corbitt at ous.edu (Corbitt, Michael) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:18:43 -0800 Subject: [6pack] Dashboards Message-ID: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> I am looking to replace the tired dashboard in my 69 TR6. I'm attracted to the look of some aftermarket dashboards that might go well with my Moto-Lita steering wheel. I see Prestige, C&G Woodcraft and a gentleman in NC (Frank Lawson) who produces these. Are there others besides the big three worth having a look? I would value feedback from those of you who have gone this route ... who did you chose and have you been happy with your choice? Also, what's your general assessment on hardwood verses laminate? Thanks. Mike Corvallis, OR From apackard68 at att.net Wed Feb 16 13:59:10 2011 From: apackard68 at att.net (Andrew Packard) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:59:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Dashboards In-Reply-To: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> References: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: <28843.70077.qm@web83811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Randy's laminate dash's at Prestige Autowood are works of art (Picasso, not Garfunkel). He has laminates at a reasonable price ($350?) and hardwoods at significantly less. I have a Koa wood laminate dash for my TR250 which is amazing. I just bought a new dash for a GT6+ project that has a significantly lower restoration budget. The craftsmanship on the hardwood is equally impressive, but the finishing is limited to stain only. I can't comment on the others, but know you can't go wrong with Prestige. Andy CD6746L ________________________________ From: "Corbitt, Michael" To: "6pack at autox.team.net" <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Wed, February 16, 2011 12:18:43 PM Subject: [6pack] Dashboards I am looking to replace the tired dashboard in my 69 TR6. I'm attracted to the look of some aftermarket dashboards that might go well with my Moto-Lita steering wheel. I see Prestige, C&G Woodcraft and a gentleman in NC (Frank Lawson) who produces these. Are there others besides the big three worth having a look? I would value feedback from those of you who have gone this route ... who did you chose and have you been happy with your choice? Also, what's your general assessment on hardwood verses laminate? Thanks. Mike Corvallis, OR _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/apackard68 at att.net From bobfabie at gmail.com Wed Feb 16 14:00:12 2011 From: bobfabie at gmail.com (robert fabie) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:00:12 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Dashboards In-Reply-To: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> References: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: I purchased a Koa wood dash from Prestige about 4 years ago. It is absolutely beautiful and perfect. I believe his standards of workmanship are the highest in the industry. I have never seen a dash that I like more than what Prestige produces. Bob Fabie '75 TR6 On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Corbitt, Michael wrote: > I am looking to replace the tired dashboard in my 69 TR6. I'm attracted to > the look of some aftermarket dashboards that might go well with my > Moto-Lita > steering wheel. > > I see Prestige, C&G Woodcraft and a gentleman in NC (Frank Lawson) who > produces these. Are there others besides the big three worth having a > look? > > I would value feedback from those of you who have gone this route ... who > did > you chose and have you been happy with your choice? Also, what's your > general assessment on hardwood verses laminate? > > Thanks. > > Mike > Corvallis, OR > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/bobfabie at gmail.com From ron at rvar.net Wed Feb 16 14:41:31 2011 From: ron at rvar.net (ron) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:41:31 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Dashboards References: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: We have used at least six of the Prestige hardwood dashes and have been very happy with the fit and finish. Just be careful when you screw the cubby box door hinges on, the screws are just a bit long Ron Ron's Vintage Auto Restoration ----- Original Message ----- From: "Corbitt, Michael" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 2:18 PM Subject: [6pack] Dashboards >I am looking to replace the tired dashboard in my 69 TR6. I'm attracted to > the look of some aftermarket dashboards that might go well with my > Moto-Lita > steering wheel. > > I see Prestige, C&G Woodcraft and a gentleman in NC (Frank Lawson) who > produces these. Are there others besides the big three worth having a > look? > > I would value feedback from those of you who have gone this route ... who > did > you chose and have you been happy with your choice? Also, what's your > general assessment on hardwood verses laminate? > > Thanks. > > Mike > Corvallis, OR > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/ron at rvar.net From forzion at maine.rr.com Wed Feb 16 14:48:15 2011 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (David Friedlander) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:48:15 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Dashboards In-Reply-To: References: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: <4D5C461F.6070201@maine.rr.com> I'll have to ditto Bob's comments, Mike. Prestige's laminate dash is excellent in all respects. The glove box door matches grain to the dash and has a perfect spacing around it. He's an artist, in every sense of the word... Dave Friedlander '74 Six On 2/16/2011 4:00 PM, robert fabie wrote: > I purchased a Koa wood dash from Prestige about 4 years ago. It is > absolutely beautiful and perfect. I believe his standards of workmanship are > the highest in the industry. I have never seen a dash that I like more than > what Prestige produces. > > Bob Fabie > '75 TR6 > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Corbitt, Michael > wrote: > >> I am looking to replace the tired dashboard in my 69 TR6. I'm attracted to >> the look of some aftermarket dashboards that might go well with my >> Moto-Lita >> steering wheel. >> >> I see Prestige, C&G Woodcraft and a gentleman in NC (Frank Lawson) who >> produces these. Are there others besides the big three worth having a >> look? >> >> I would value feedback from those of you who have gone this route ... who >> did >> you chose and have you been happy with your choice? Also, what's your >> general assessment on hardwood verses laminate? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Mike >> Corvallis, OR >> _______________________________________________ From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Wed Feb 16 16:18:50 2011 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 18:18:50 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Dashboards In-Reply-To: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> References: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: <3CE3B8C6C2D24D12BFC23012EFB1D46E@BobPC> I've had the Prestige Hawaiian Koa dash in my car for about 10 years now and it looks as good as the day I installed it. Every aspect of his work is outstanding...........get Randy on the phone and he'll talk your ear off too. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Corbitt, Michael Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:18 PM To: '6pack at autox.team.net' Subject: [6pack] Dashboards I am looking to replace the tired dashboard in my 69 TR6. I'm attracted to the look of some aftermarket dashboards that might go well with my Moto-Lita steering wheel. I see Prestige, C&G Woodcraft and a gentleman in NC (Frank Lawson) who produces these. Are there others besides the big three worth having a look? I would value feedback from those of you who have gone this route ... who did you chose and have you been happy with your choice? Also, what's your general assessment on hardwood verses laminate? Thanks. Mike Corvallis, OR _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From stuartt at tlthompson.com Wed Feb 16 16:59:44 2011 From: stuartt at tlthompson.com (Stuart Thompson) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:59:44 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Dashboards References: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> <3CE3B8C6C2D24D12BFC23012EFB1D46E@BobPC> Message-ID: <44147AA8C7E241B68B4642B04D88EC8C@Dell320> After monitoring this discussion, I think I'll order mine from Prestige! All the comments here pretty much sold me and I'm not even in the market! From yellowtr at adelphia.net Wed Feb 16 17:08:42 2011 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:08:42 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Dashboards In-Reply-To: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> References: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: <201102161908.43248.yellowtr@adelphia.net> On Wednesday, February 16, 2011 03:18:43 pm Corbitt, Michael wrote: > I am looking to replace the tired dashboard in my 69 TR6. I'm attracted to > the look of some aftermarket dashboards that might go well with my > Moto-Lita steering wheel. > > I see Prestige, C&G Woodcraft and a gentleman in NC (Frank Lawson) who > produces these. Are there others besides the big three worth having a > look? > > I would value feedback from those of you who have gone this route ... who > did you chose and have you been happy with your choice? Also, what's > your general assessment on hardwood verses laminate? > > Thanks. > > Mike > Corvallis, OR > Mike, I decided to get the dash for my 72 project from C&G. It is a laminate in burl elm. Looks real nice with the moto lita wood steering wheel. Fit was perfect. The only reason I went with C&G was they are closer than Prestige. I am guessing the quality is about the same. Satisfied customer for sure. Bob From Michael_Corbitt at ous.edu Thu Feb 17 09:28:16 2011 From: Michael_Corbitt at ous.edu (Corbitt, Michael) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:28:16 -0800 Subject: [6pack] Dashboards In-Reply-To: <3CE3B8C6C2D24D12BFC23012EFB1D46E@BobPC> References: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A98221@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> <3CE3B8C6C2D24D12BFC23012EFB1D46E@BobPC> Message-ID: <0D5BA8AE8E5942448F2C84EF34995F2F4110A9823C@EXCH2.nws.oregonstate.edu> Thanks for the feedback, Bob (and everyone else who's commented). I had gone to your website over the weekend, but I didn't see anything related to your installing a new dash. Is the Hawaiian Koa different from the Fiddleback Koa? I don't see names with the product examples on Randy's webpage. The only place I've seen pictures with names is from your posting about his products back in 2008. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Bob Danielson [mailto:75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:19 PM To: Corbitt, Michael; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Dashboards I've had the Prestige Hawaiian Koa dash in my car for about 10 years now and it looks as good as the day I installed it. Every aspect of his work is outstanding...........get Randy on the phone and he'll talk your ear off too. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Corbitt, Michael Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:18 PM To: '6pack at autox.team.net' Subject: [6pack] Dashboards I am looking to replace the tired dashboard in my 69 TR6. I'm attracted to the look of some aftermarket dashboards that might go well with my Moto-Lita steering wheel. I see Prestige, C&G Woodcraft and a gentleman in NC (Frank Lawson) who produces these. Are there others besides the big three worth having a look? I would value feedback from those of you who have gone this route ... who did you chose and have you been happy with your choice? Also, what's your general assessment on hardwood verses laminate? Thanks. Mike Corvallis, OR _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From forzion at maine.rr.com Thu Feb 17 11:33:39 2011 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (forzion) Date: 17 Feb 2011 10:33:39 -0800 Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: From tr6taylor at webtv.net Fri Feb 18 13:08:34 2011 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 20:08:34 GMT Subject: [6pack] Hardtop, window and door - up-down? Message-ID: Richard---IF you could raise the door glass the 1/2 inch you say is needed, then you would have to be careful when closing the doors when using the soft top, if you intend to use the soft top again. I've seen some hardtops that do not have a great fit to the door glass. In my case, the SOFT top/glass had no gaps but the hardtop left too much room with the original(?) top seals. Some custom seals were used to get it right. Now I can run with either top and have a decent seal. Take another look to see if the other metal parts of the top fit the body as they should. It sounds like something needs to come down more. Dick From TRDOCTOR at aol.com Fri Feb 18 19:53:40 2011 From: TRDOCTOR at aol.com (TRDOCTOR at aol.com) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:53:40 EST Subject: [6pack] Oil Filter Adapter Message-ID: <77042.3d093c33.3a908ab4@aol.com> I finally gave up on the oil filter adapter on the GT6 and put the canister back on. It wasn't fun taking the adapter off or putting the canister back on but it is done and the canister doesn't leak, at least right now. We'll see what happens. This is what happened with the TR6 when I first put on an adapter. Tried one a few years later from a different vendor and manufacturer. No problems with it now. I bought the new adapter from a major supplier (the one for the GT) but it just would not quit leaking. Sam From forzion at maine.rr.com Fri Feb 18 21:39:53 2011 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (David Friedlander) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 23:39:53 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Oil Filter Adapter In-Reply-To: <77042.3d093c33.3a908ab4@aol.com> References: <77042.3d093c33.3a908ab4@aol.com> Message-ID: <4D5F4999.3010301@maine.rr.com> Sam; Sounds like you maybe overlooked an o-ring or maybe didn't have it seated properly... Dave On 2/18/2011 9:53 PM, TRDOCTOR at aol.com wrote: > I finally gave up on the oil filter adapter on the GT6 and put the canister > back on. It wasn't fun taking the adapter off or putting the canister > back on but it is done and the canister doesn't leak, at least right now. > We'll see what happens. > This is what happened with the TR6 when I first put on an adapter. Tried > one a few years later from a different vendor and manufacturer. No > problems with it now. I bought the new adapter from a major supplier (the one for > the GT) but it just would not quit leaking. > > Sam > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/forzion at maine.rr.com From TRDOCTOR at aol.com Fri Feb 18 22:22:27 2011 From: TRDOCTOR at aol.com (TRDOCTOR at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 00:22:27 EST Subject: [6pack] [Fot] Oil Filter Adapter Message-ID: <7a710.10cb150c.3a90ad93@aol.com> The problem wasn't with the filter (once I got one that would fit in the allotted space) it seemed to with the adapter itself. Oh, well. . . Sam In a message dated 2/18/2011 9:35:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, budscars at comcast.net writes: You need to be sure to screw the threaded post in far enough so that the filter rubber is flush/tight to the adapter so that the oil filter can tighten snuggly to the rubber ring..RB ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; ; ; <6pack at autox.team.net>; Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:53 PM Subject: [Fot] Oil Filter Adapter >I finally gave up on the oil filter adapter on the GT6 and put the canister > back on. It wasn't fun taking the adapter off or putting the canister > back on but it is done and the canister doesn't leak, at least right now. > We'll see what happens. > This is what happened with the TR6 when I first put on an adapter. Tried > one a few years later from a different vendor and manufacturer. No > problems with it now. I bought the new adapter from a major supplier (the > one for > the GT) but it just would not quit leaking. > > Sam > _______________________________________________ > fot at autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/budscars at comcast.net From im_sloane at hotmail.com Sat Feb 19 16:30:08 2011 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:30:08 +0000 Subject: [6pack] [Fot] Oil Filter Adapter In-Reply-To: <7a710.10cb150c.3a90ad93@aol.com> References: <7a710.10cb150c.3a90ad93@aol.com> Message-ID: Just stick with the original filter. My mechanic says they're better for many reasons. I know lots of folks love the spin on, so I'm not trying to start a big thread on which is better. Just my opinion. Sloane :) 69-Six > From: TRDOCTOR at aol.com > Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 00:22:27 -0500 > To: budscars at comcast.net; tr6 at atlasok.com > CC: 6pack at autox.team.net; thomaschronister at cox.net; akgraves at cox.net; fot at autox.team.net; triumphlist at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [6pack] [Fot] Oil Filter Adapter > > The problem wasn't with the filter (once I got one that would fit in the > allotted space) it seemed to with the adapter itself. Oh, well. . . From forzion at maine.rr.com Sat Feb 19 16:53:06 2011 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (forzion) Date: 19 Feb 2011 15:53:06 -0800 Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: From Footfrek at aol.com Sat Feb 19 17:04:51 2011 From: Footfrek at aol.com (Footfrek at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:04:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [6pack] Triumph related websites Message-ID: <2841.339e1eb4.3a91b4a3@aol.com> Anyone recommend some good triumph websites. I am also curious if the ironhorse website exist some where else the address I had was no longer working. It was possibly about the tr250. thanks all suggestions will be appreciated . I am trying to get motivated again. We turned the 6 around in the shed today first time it has rolled in years. Jason M Owen 71 laurel tr6 From lfm614 at aol.com Sat Feb 19 17:31:32 2011 From: lfm614 at aol.com (lfm614 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:31:32 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Triumph related websites Message-ID: <653013646-1298161629-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-925677591-@bda113.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> www.6-pack.org www.advanceautowire.com Buckeye triumphs. Lou 72 Pimento ------Original Message------ From: Footfrek at aol.com Sender: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net To: TR-6 list Subject: [6pack] Triumph related websites Sent: Feb 19, 2011 6:04 PM Anyone recommend some good triumph websites. I am also curious if the ironhorse website exist some where else the address I had was no longer working. It was possibly about the tr250. thanks all suggestions will be appreciated . I am trying to get motivated again. We turned the 6 around in the shed today first time it has rolled in years. Jason M Owen 71 laurel tr6 _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/lfm614 at aol.com From n197tr4 at cs.com Sat Feb 19 18:51:42 2011 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:51:42 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Fwd: TR6/Miata seat conversion kit-commercial message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CD9EB7DB8B0BED-1E04-333EF@webmail-d024.sysops.aol.com> Today Sean sent out a message to several folks regarding their orders. So if you need a kit and Sean missed getting word to you, here it is again below. It wont be posted again. Thanks! Sean & Joe -----Original Message----- From: Sean Alexander Sent: Sat, Feb 19, 2011 12:44 pm Subject: TR6/Miata seat conversion kit Seat Kits are ready to ship. Price is $75.00 plus shipping ($5.00 in the continentalUnited States). Actual shipping costwill be quoted for locations outside the continental United States. Kit will ship approximately 1 to 3 days after receivingpayment. Payment Options: 1) Paypal = Send me the email address you use withPaypal and I will send you a payable paypal invoice for the merchandise you are purchasing. 2) Money Order/Personal Check please send to: SeanAlexander 324 Progress Ave Waterloo IA 50701 Thank you, SeanAlexander From im_sloane at hotmail.com Sun Feb 20 11:46:13 2011 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 18:46:13 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Triumph related websites In-Reply-To: <653013646-1298161629-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-925677591-@bda113.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <653013646-1298161629-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-925677591-@bda113.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > From: lfm614 at aol.com > Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:31:32 +0000 > Subject: Re: [6pack] Triumph related websites > > www.6-pack.org > www.advanceautowire.com > Buckeye triumphs. From Footfrek at aol.com Sun Feb 20 21:59:21 2011 From: Footfrek at aol.com (Footfrek at aol.com) Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 23:59:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: [6pack] feet for slat style luggage rack? Message-ID: <2880f.14ab9cdb.3a934b29@aol.com> Anyone have suggestion for where I could find the feet or end pieces that hold down a 4 slat style luggage rack? I real like the look and style of rack but my dad misplaced the pieces that actually hold it on. I would like to keep the same placement and not have to repair old holes and make new ones. thanks Jason M. Owen From TRDOCTOR at aol.com Mon Feb 21 03:48:49 2011 From: TRDOCTOR at aol.com (TRDOCTOR at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 05:48:49 EST Subject: [6pack] [Fot] Oil Filter Adapter Message-ID: <458bb.19d6904c.3a939d11@aol.com> I was trying to eliminate the drain back of oil when not running, but, I guess that I will just stick with the canister even though it is a PITA to change the filter. I'll just make sure that I have a good filter. The one I put in there was a VB brand (whatever that is) but in the future I will stock up on some others. When we bought the car I was sure that it was the same filter as the TR6, s ince it is the same configuration, but that turned out not to be the case. The TR6 filter is bigger in diameter and deeper. Sam and Carol Clark Green Country Triumphs (Tulsa) Just stick with the original filter. My mechanic says they're better for many reasons. I know lots of folks love the spin on, so I'm not trying to start a big thread on which is better. Just my opinion. Sloane :) 69-Six From rjcapo1 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 21 05:41:26 2011 From: rjcapo1 at yahoo.com (Ralph Cap) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 04:41:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] 76 tr6 for sale Message-ID: <81287.64679.qm@web120109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> looking to sell my tr6 many upgrades 4000.00 fair condition local sale in the ny area email for pics From tr6parts at charter.net Mon Feb 21 07:36:22 2011 From: tr6parts at charter.net (Al Salvatore) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 09:36:22 -0500 Subject: [6pack] feet for slat style luggage rack? References: <2880f.14ab9cdb.3a934b29@aol.com> Message-ID: <06BF19A29B6C424088DC80C9FCEA3FEB@Alan> Moss sells them. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 11:59 PM Subject: [6pack] feet for slat style luggage rack? > Anyone have suggestion for where I could find the feet or end pieces > that hold down a 4 slat style luggage rack? I real like the look and > style of rack but my dad misplaced the pieces that actually hold it > on. I would like to keep the same placement and not have to repair > old holes and make new ones. > > thanks > Jason M. Owen > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6parts at charter.net From dcmdcm at nc.rr.com Mon Feb 21 14:51:22 2011 From: dcmdcm at nc.rr.com (Douglas Morris) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:51:22 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Hoot Prop Message-ID: <2B7E323E-A4D2-4560-943E-1A1B48AD43CC@nc.rr.com> Has anyone moved the hood prop to the left side or added one? Doug Morris, NC, '74 TR6 CF18xxx From jimjcmo at yahoo.com Mon Feb 21 18:25:42 2011 From: jimjcmo at yahoo.com (Jim Jones) Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:25:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Poly bushes? Message-ID: <60629.18418.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I am about to replace the nylatron bushes in my suspension (for the sake of my aging back) with polyurethane bushes. My question is there a difference between products available from the various vendors? I've seen red bushes, black, even purple. I don't want to do this job twice. Thanks, Jim Jones From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Feb 22 08:07:59 2011 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:07:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [6pack] Poly bushes? In-Reply-To: <60629.18418.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <60629.18418.qm@web33501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, I'll just touch the topic of the bushes themselves in relation to the initial query. Bushings are there to allow the suspension to articulate. There is some isolation of sound and motion, but not a lot. What the various materials allow is some "flex" at the joint. But the point I wanted to make is that if you upgraded to another bushing material and the ride is a lot more harsh, I'd first verify that the suspension is able to fully articulate for the entire range with NO binding. If the bushings are installed wrong, the suspension cannot fully articulate without extra effort and you will def. feel this in the seat of your pants. I would next verify that the shocks are working properly. You can test this in the absence of the springs fairly easily. The effort to move the shock throughout the range shuld be smooth and even the entire range. Next, I would verify that the sway bars are not binding. Check them be undoing the end links from the suspension and verify smooth operation for the entire range of motion. Last - what are you running for springs? If you have really stiff springs, try running something a tad softer and see if that helps. I've been quite surprised over the years over how little the bushing material matters in terms of road isolation. The material almost does not matter except to say that the poly and delrin busing deflect less under extreme loads and that they poly/delrin bushings seem to last longer than the rubber... when installed correctly. Now, to your question about bushings. The relative hardness of the bushings can be read with a durometer. There are different scales depending on the material used. A quick web search found this reference: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=194360 There's a good chart there showing the overlap of the various durometer scales. I hope this helps. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From iron_horse819 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 22 08:09:36 2011 From: iron_horse819 at yahoo.com (Raymond Hatfield) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 07:09:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Triumph related websites In-Reply-To: <2841.339e1eb4.3a91b4a3@aol.com> References: <2841.339e1eb4.3a91b4a3@aol.com> Message-ID: <141327.96686.qm@web120619.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hello Jason, Could you by any chance be referring to my (former) website, The Michelotti TR Website? It no longer exists because Yahoo pulled the plug on free hosting and I haven't had time to try and find another host. However, I think I still have most of my info stored somewhere if you were looking for something in particular. Raymond ----- Original Message ---- From: "Footfrek at aol.com" To: 6pack at autox.team.net Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 6:04:51 PM Subject: [6pack] Triumph related websites Anyone recommend some good triumph websites. I am also curious if the ironhorse website exist some where else the address I had was no longer working. It was possibly about the tr250. thanks all suggestions will be appreciated . I am trying to get motivated again. We turned the 6 around in the shed today first time it has rolled in years. Jason M Owen 71 laurel tr6 _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/iron_horse819 at yahoo.com From sakirsis at consolidated.net Tue Feb 22 18:29:32 2011 From: sakirsis at consolidated.net (Steve Kirsis) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 19:29:32 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Spal Fan Message-ID: Hi Guys, Would anyone out there happen to know if the 16 inch Spal High performance Fan (over 2300 cfm) Will fit as a puller in my '70 6? It is over an inch thicker than the 1600 cfm ultra slim. I have also just ordered the Fan Eliminator kit from Rick Patton. Thanks Steve Kirsis, '70 6 E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.16310 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From j.honor at comcast.net Tue Feb 22 19:00:08 2011 From: j.honor at comcast.net (Joe Honor) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:00:08 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Spal Fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <66D907A2-89D6-4714-B1FF-94EA0C0EEDFE@comcast.net> It should work with the fan eliminator on the stock rad the spal which I have on a wizard aluminum is quite slim Regards Joe Joe Honor / Sent from my iPhone On Feb 22, 2011, at 7:29 PM, "Steve Kirsis" wrote: > Hi Guys, Would anyone out there happen to know if the 16 inch Spal High > performance Fan (over 2300 cfm) Will fit as a puller in my '70 6? It is over > an inch thicker than the 1600 cfm ultra slim. I have also just ordered the Fan > Eliminator kit from Rick Patton. Thanks > Steve Kirsis, '70 6 > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) > Database version: 6.16310 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/j.honor at comcast.net From jhmdds at aol.com Tue Feb 22 19:55:04 2011 From: jhmdds at aol.com (jhmdds at aol.com) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:55:04 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR 7 Speaker Size Message-ID: <8CDA11C34DAA66E-1D44-257AC@webmail-d049.sysops.aol.com> Can anyone tell me what size speaker fits into the space under the grill in the top center of the dash on a TR7? The space under my grill is filled to the rim with wires and connectors. Is this normal? Do you have to fit a low profile speaker or will a normal sized speaker fit? Thanks, James Maddox 1980 TR7 From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Tue Feb 22 20:18:29 2011 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:18:29 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Spal Fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The key here is the width of the Spal fan. I've got the "stock" combo of the Wizard radiator and the low profile Spal fan which fits just fine. You need to check the specs of the Spal fan you have to see if it fits. It has nothing to do with Rick's kit. Bob Danielson http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org 1975 TR6 with: Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed Nissan Diff & CVJs -----Original Message----- From: Steve Kirsis Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 8:29 PM To: 6pack Subject: [6pack] Spal Fan Hi Guys, Would anyone out there happen to know if the 16 inch Spal High performance Fan (over 2300 cfm) Will fit as a puller in my '70 6? It is over an inch thicker than the 1600 cfm ultra slim. I have also just ordered the Fan Eliminator kit from Rick Patton. Thanks Steve Kirsis, '70 6 E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.16310 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From robertrudolphi at yahoo.com Wed Feb 23 12:25:43 2011 From: robertrudolphi at yahoo.com (robert rudolphi) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:25:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Compression readings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58382.42101.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hello All, I recently did a compression test on my 74 TR6 in advance of sending my distributor off for a rebuild. The results came back :175, 190, 210, 220, 180, 180. I have now heard this may be a problem. I used an expensive Harbor Freight tester but assuming these are accurate does this mean time for a rebuild or other issue? Thanks in advance for any feedback Robert Robert Rudolphi 1974 TR6 From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Feb 23 12:56:09 2011 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 14:56:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: [6pack] Compression readings In-Reply-To: <58382.42101.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <58382.42101.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You have one data point. DO a leakdown test and get another data point. To be honest, 20 - 25 pounds diff sounds like a lot, but it's only about 10% variation. No perfect, but not really, really bad. Also, make sure that you used the exact same method on all 6 pots (wide-open throttle, turn the motor a min. of 4 turns on the starter) Also, also, do the test "wet" and see if the number change. regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tr6taylor at webtv.net Wed Feb 23 13:04:10 2011 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:04:10 GMT Subject: [6pack] Compression readings Message-ID: Robert---The compression test readings you show are very high, esp. for the '74 model which has a relatively low CR from the factory. If the head was milled quite a bit at some time in the past, then this would account for these readings. Ideally, compression readings shouldn't vary more than 10% among all cylinders, but engines can seem to run well when outside these parameters. If a valve lash check wasn't performed before the compression test was done it would be good to do so, then a re-check of the compression. A compression tester isn't normally an expensive tool. A leakdown tester is quite a bit more. Both are good to have in one's toolbox. None of this as anything to do with the distributor, of course. Dick -----Original Message----- From: robert rudolphi Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:25 AM To: triumphs at autox.team.net, 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Compression readings Hello All, I recently did a compression test on my 74 TR6 in advance of sending my distributor off for a rebuild. The results came back :175, 190, 210, 220, 180, 180. I have now heard this may be a problem. I used an expensive Harbor Freight tester but assuming these are accurate does this mean time for a rebuild or other issue? Thanks in advance for any feedback Robert Robert Rudolphi 1974 TR6 _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6taylor at webtv.net From greg at gelhar.com Wed Feb 23 17:25:10 2011 From: greg at gelhar.com (Greg Gelhar) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:25:10 -0600 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Third brake light References: <4D658A68.4080803@execulink.com> <0ebc01cbd3b0$5cefdf00$16cf9d00$@rr.com> Message-ID: <007001cbd3b9$507115b0$0a01a8c0@triumph> I am looking for pictures of a well thought out installation of a third brake light for my TR6. I want to help drivers behind me to be aware of my presence. Has anyone added this feature to their cars? Any photos or links are appreciated. Greg Gelhar 1973 TR6 Osseo, MN From im_sloane at hotmail.com Thu Feb 24 09:37:31 2011 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:37:31 +0000 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Third brake light In-Reply-To: <007001cbd3b9$507115b0$0a01a8c0@triumph> References: <4D658A68.4080803@execulink.com>, <0ebc01cbd3b0$5cefdf00$16cf9d00$@rr.com>, <007001cbd3b9$507115b0$0a01a8c0@triumph> Message-ID: My brother has this tag frame with a built in 3rd brake light. Here's one on ebay. Auction # 190503261413 I also have a picture of his 73's rear that I can send directly to you if you like. This is not a real high solution, but it is noticable at night when he hits the brakes and you get the triangle of 3 red lights. He runs red LEDs in the stop-tail lamps too. Sloane :) 69-Six > > I am looking for pictures of a well thought out installation of a third > brake light for my TR6. I want to help drivers behind me to be aware of my > presence. Has anyone added this feature to their cars? Any photos or links > are appreciated. > > > Greg Gelhar > 1973 TR6 > Osseo, MN From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Fri Feb 25 08:28:19 2011 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:28:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Spal Fan Question Message-ID: <606395.79523.qm@web65606.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Steve: I recall a few years ago some guys were attaching a 16" Permacool fan to the edge of a stock rad with sheet metal screws. How are you doing the thermostat hookup? From what I've heard the better location seems to be the bottom of the rad or the coolant return pipe. Let us know what you did. A job I'll do someday. Bruce Simms From brian at asmoothmove.biz Fri Feb 25 08:40:41 2011 From: brian at asmoothmove.biz (brian at asmoothmove.biz) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:40:41 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Spal Fan Question In-Reply-To: <606395.79523.qm@web65606.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <606395.79523.qm@web65606.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006301cbd502$5c4b7110$14e25330$@biz> I have done this with great success. I believe the instructions had me install the thermostat in the upper hose at the point it enters the radiator. This makes sense as it's a good measure of coolant temperature at the exit point of the engine and before it cools down in the radiator itself. Brian J. Alwin 72 TR6 CC79085 -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Simms Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 9:28 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net; sakirsis at consolidated.net Subject: [6pack] Spal Fan Question Steve: I recall a few years ago some guys were attaching a 16" Permacool fan to the edge of a stock rad with sheet metal screws. How are you doing the thermostat hookup? From what I've heard the better location seems to be the bottom of the rad or the coolant return pipe. Let us know what you did. A job I'll do someday. Bruce Simms _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/brian at asmoothmove.biz From TR250Driver at aol.com Fri Feb 25 09:03:44 2011 From: TR250Driver at aol.com (TR250Driver at aol.com) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:03:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [6pack] 250 Silver Stripe Paint Code? Message-ID: <1f421.2a4870a7.3a992ce0@aol.com> Hey Guys, Anyone have a code for the stripe? Hallelujah! She is getting real close to being done. Been back on the road for test drives. All New in Royal Blue the Silver Stripe is the last thing to do. Cheers, Darrell From levilevi at comcast.net Fri Feb 25 09:32:41 2011 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:32:41 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Spal Fan Question In-Reply-To: <606395.79523.qm@web65606.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <606395.79523.qm@web65606.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1A6DAFF8-52BA-410F-8E25-8C8FAA2C4CB2@comcast.net> While trying to figure out how to mount a 16 inch Permacool fan to my TR6 radiator I discovered with just a bit of torque I could get it inside of the the side pieces of the radiator and flush to the fins. I put four of the the little cushion feet on the fan and "popped" the fan inside the side pieces and right next to the fins. I realized it was such a good fit that I was done. No screws, no fasteners through the fins or the radiator, or anything to hold it in place. It wasn't going anywhere, especially with the crossmember about 1/8 of an inch away from the fan motor housing. Have run it that way for about 3-4 years with no problem. Sitting right "on" the fins provides for a very efficient pull of air through the radiator and optimal cooling. Makes for a nice clean installation and provides a mystery for anyone looking closely at it wondering how it's attached to the radiator...its not. Could be a serendipidous occurance just for my radiator but it might work for others. Oh and my sensor is near upper hose as others have suggested. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57806 (The Wreck-Almost parts) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi at comcast.net On Feb 25, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Bruce Simms wrote: > Steve: > > > I recall a few years ago some guys were attaching a 16" Permacool fan > to the > edge of a stock rad with sheet metal screws. > > How are you doing the > thermostat hookup? From what I've heard the better > location seems to be the > bottom of the rad or the coolant return pipe. > > Let us know what you did. A > job I'll do someday. > > Bruce Simms > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/levilevi at comcast.net From Footfrek at aol.com Fri Feb 25 21:16:51 2011 From: Footfrek at aol.com (Footfrek at aol.com) Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:16:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [6pack] Triumph list? Message-ID: <6b916.49a748ed.3a99d8b3@aol.com> I am trying to subscribe to the triumph list and it keeps saying unknown list triumphs. I send subscribe triumphs _majordomo at autox.net_ (mailto:majordomo at autox.net) . Am I doing something wrong. I have tired to subscribe to other list with no luck to see if I am doing something wrong. Thanks Jason M. Owen From trglory at verizon.net Sat Feb 26 08:30:45 2011 From: trglory at verizon.net (Joe Laurito) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:30:45 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Triumph list? In-Reply-To: <6b916.49a748ed.3a99d8b3@aol.com> References: <6b916.49a748ed.3a99d8b3@aol.com> Message-ID: <005a01cbd5ca$23e71d10$6bb55730$@net> Go to http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo Joe Laurito -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Footfrek at aol.com Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:17 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Triumph list? I am trying to subscribe to the triumph list and it keeps saying unknown list triumphs. I send subscribe triumphs _majordomo at autox.net_ (mailto:majordomo at autox.net) . Am I doing something wrong. I have tired to subscribe to other list with no luck to see if I am doing something wrong. Thanks Jason M. Owen _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/trglory at verizon.net From gaf3 at charter.net Mon Feb 28 16:25:43 2011 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:25:43 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Stag Transmission Parts Message-ID: <4D6C2EF7.8040701@charter.net> Hi I'm trying to locate a source for the Borg Warner Automatic Transmission parts for a Club Members Stag. I have the Automatic Stripped down and I'm having a difficult time locating parts. I need the standard stuff for a rebuild. Gaskets, seals clutches and steels and a few other parts. Rimmer doesn't have anything much on their website. Does anyone out there have a source for these parts. The usual suppliers don't have any stock for the British built Automatic. Are there any Stag Mail Lists I could post a message on? Thanks in advance Glenn Franco From Gt6steve at aol.com Mon Feb 28 16:50:21 2011 From: Gt6steve at aol.com (Gt6steve at aol.com) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:50:21 EST Subject: [6pack] [Fot] Stag Transmission Parts Message-ID: <5a02c.7919de21.3a9d8ebd@aol.com> What trans is this? BW type 8 as in the Jags? I have a spare type 8 from a 69 Jag if it helps you... In a message dated 2/28/2011 3:46:52 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, gaf3 at charter.net writes: Hi I'm trying to locate a source for the Borg Warner Automatic Transmission parts for a Club Members Stag. I have the Automatic Stripped down and I'm having a difficult time locating parts. I need the standard stuff for a rebuild. Gaskets, seals clutches and steels and a few other parts. Rimmer doesn't have anything much on their website. Does anyone out there have a source for these parts. The usual suppliers don't have any stock for the British built Automatic. Are there any Stag Mail Lists I could post a message on? Thanks in advance Glenn Franco _______________________________________________ fot at autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve at aol.com From tgeiger at geigergarage.com Mon Feb 28 17:33:34 2011 From: tgeiger at geigergarage.com (Terry Geiger) Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:33:34 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Stag Transmission Parts In-Reply-To: <4D6C2EF7.8040701@charter.net> References: <4D6C2EF7.8040701@charter.net> Message-ID: <000501cbd7a8$4ec45b80$ec4d1280$@geigergarage.com> It should be a Borg warner 35. If you are in the US I would think you could source parts using a 1975 Volvo 240 as the reference vehicle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg-Warner_35_transmission I have an MGC in the shop right now with the same transmission. Terry Geiger www.GeigerGarage.com -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glenn Franco Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 5:26 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net; Friends of triumph Subject: [6pack] Stag Transmission Parts Hi I'm trying to locate a source for the Borg Warner Automatic Transmission parts for a Club Members Stag. I have the Automatic Stripped down and I'm having a difficult time locating parts. I need the standard stuff for a rebuild. Gaskets, seals clutches and steels and a few other parts. Rimmer doesn't have anything much on their website. Does anyone out there have a source for these parts. The usual suppliers don't have any stock for the British built Automatic. Are there any Stag Mail Lists I could post a message on?