From janah at att.net Mon Nov 1 04:08:53 2010 From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:08:53 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Frame Rehab Advice Message-ID: Hi All- I would like to ask the list for frame rehabilitation advice. What things should be done, what things are nice to do? Any one that has been there before or sombody that just wants to opine, please chime in. I have an 1970 vintage frame. The rack mount tack welds are cracked. No reinforcing on the front lower A arm mounts. Only 1 reimfocement on the rear lower A arm mount. Cracked right diff mount. Sorry a Ratco frame is not an option for me. I have seen diff bridge reinforements. Are this a good thing / necessary? Thanks, John Cyg From Pimento73 at aol.com Mon Nov 1 05:10:40 2010 From: Pimento73 at aol.com (Pimento73 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 08:10:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Cylinder haed swap Message-ID: <35b3d.5447c283.3a000840@aol.com> In a message dated 10/31/2010 8:54:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, john70350 at msn.com writes: Because of extreme hood clearance issues on the GT6 I want to use the shorter 1972 GT6 head that I have on the engine to give me additional hood clearance. huh? unless you think 1/10 inch or less is a big difference, it won't be enough to gain you any hood clearance. But, you can increase compression ratio by putting a GT6 head on a TR6 engine From levilevi at comcast.net Mon Nov 1 08:24:19 2010 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 09:24:19 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Fwd: Your LiteZupp replacement will be in the mail today! References: Message-ID: <91619030-A831-49BA-B272-757953A4A5D8@comcast.net> List thanks for all the suggestions on my cruise control/tail light issue with the LiteZupp LEDs. I was just running through the checking ground, checking the old lights, scenarios when I got this message (below) from Chris Reyher at LiteZupp. They were aware of the issue and are sending re-circuited LEDs that correct the problem. I want them to get credit for their quick response and resolving the issue since I'd posted to the list about the problem. I would certainly buy from them again if the opportunity arises as their LEDs are the type of quality you can see and feel when you look at them and hold them in your hand. Thanks Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57806 (The Wreck-Almost parts) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi at comcast.net Begin forwarded message: > From: Chris Reyher > Date: November 1, 2010 8:32:44 AM MDT > To: Bud Rolofsan > Subject: Your LiteZupp replacement will be in the mail today! > > Good morning Bud! > > We are very sorry that you experienced trouble with your lights. We > are aware of the problem and have seen it other cars, but never in > the Triumphs. > We changed the circuitry to fix the issue a while back, and thought > we had the "old" lamps isolated, but obviously that pair slipped > through the cracks. It's just our dumb luck that your car > is equipped with cruise control! > > Your replacement lamps are on the way. You are welcome to keep the > original pair you purchased. Just don't put them on a car with > cruise control. > > Thank you very much for your business. Your complete satisfaction is > important to us. > > Best regards! > > Chris Reyher > Jim Thompson > LiteZupp Industries, LLC > 214-202-0244 From v.navarrette at comcast.net Mon Nov 1 14:26:51 2010 From: v.navarrette at comcast.net (Vance Navarrette) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 14:26:51 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Cylinder haed swap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: John: There is more to this than the CR. The later TR6 heads, for example, have markedly superior ports to the earlier TR6/TR250 design. In addition, the later heads have a smaller exhaust valve that actually flows better than the earlier larger valve because the valve is not shrouded by the combustion chamber wall. The PI cars got the better port design all along, but North America for some reason got badly strangled smog heads instead. Only later as the CR continued to fall did Triumph give us the good port design in order to make up for the niggardly 7.5:1 compression ratio. Lastly, the later TR6 manifold flows much better than the earlier "square" manifold. Once again this was done so that the miserable performance of a desmogged ("castrated" is a more descriptive term) engine could be offset. If you want performance, you are much better off using the late TR6 head and manifold, and milling the head to raise the compression to 9.5:1 or 10:1. This will require approximately 0.125" to be removed from the head. The earlier head designs give up too much in terms of flow to be considered, IMHO. Vance -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Johnson Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 5:35 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Cylinder haed swap Hi all, I am dropping a 1972 TR6 engine in my GT6 and had a quick question regarding combustion chamber size and compression ratio. Because of extreme hood clearance issues on the GT6 I want to use the shorter 1972 GT6 head that I have on the engine to give me additional hood clearance. I know the combustion chamber is smaller on the GT6 head but the ports are the same. Has anyone made this switch on their TR6 or seen a chart that would give me an idea on compression ratio before I cc the heads? Thanks! John Johnson Columbus, Ohio From yellowtr at adelphia.net Tue Nov 2 15:32:04 2010 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 18:32:04 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Frame Rehab Advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201011021832.05507.yellowtr@adelphia.net> On Monday, November 01, 2010 07:08:53 am John Cyganowski wrote: > Hi All- > > I would like to ask the list for frame rehabilitation advice. What things > should be done, what things are nice to do? Any one that has been there > before or sombody that just wants to opine, please chime in. > > I have an 1970 vintage frame. The rack mount tack welds are cracked. No > reinforcing on the front lower A arm mounts. Only 1 reimfocement on the > rear lower A arm mount. Cracked right diff mount. > > Sorry a Ratco frame is not an option for me. I have seen diff bridge > reinforements. Are this a good thing / necessary? > > Thanks, > John Cyg John, First get all the cracks fixes with new welds. 2nd, go to TRF and get their front suspension reinforcing kits + the pattern for boxing in the differential mounts. Others on the 6-pack forum have added extra metal to the rear part of the frame where the cross member that holds the rear suspension. Also Ted at TSI sells a kit to add extra reinforcement to the entire rear suspension part of the frame most importantly the springs and differential. I myself did the boxing in of the differentials, added Ted's kit and also large washers were welded to where the 4 differential studs are welded to the frame. I left the front pretty much alone but did add extra metal welds to parts of the frame where the suspension and steering attach. I also added angle metal welded to the inside of the frame where the rear suspension attaches. I think if you go on the 6-pack forum and do some searches you will see a bunch of photos of the frame work that has been done by the members. Bob From slowtoaccept at yahoo.com Tue Nov 2 16:38:34 2010 From: slowtoaccept at yahoo.com (Jerry C Shaw) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 19:38:34 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Frame Rehab Advice Message-ID: Do it frame off body, not frame on. Sandblast frame and inspect with a magnifying glass. Determine weak spots and have a welder at your side. Frame kits are useful (Brit sources are better than US, e.g. RIMMER etc.) Under T-shirt an issue. Tony Vigliotti (RATCO) will be the first to agree that re-doing your old frame is the least expensive. Cracks in shock towers can be an issue. My bids were in the $1800 range for a welding refurb, even with kits. Yours may be much less, but it requires expertise. Jerry Shaw http://www.triumphowners.com/977 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 07:08:53 -0400 From: "John Cyganowski" Subject: [6pack] Frame Rehab Advice To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi All- I would like to ask the list for frame rehabilitation advice. What things should be done, what things are nice to do? Any one that has been there before or sombody that just wants to opine, please chime in. I have an 1970 vintage frame. The rack mount tack welds are cracked. No reinforcing on the front lower A arm mounts. Only 1 reimfocement on the rear lower A arm mount. Cracked right diff mount. Sorry a Ratco frame is not an option for me. I have seen diff bridge reinforements. Are this a good thing / necessary? Thanks, John Cyg From pebarnes71 at gmail.com Tue Nov 2 17:30:23 2010 From: pebarnes71 at gmail.com (Philip Barnes) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 08:30:23 +0800 Subject: [6pack] Frame Rehab Advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: All this talk about frame welding should come with some caution. It's important to remember that the frames are old and certainly thinner than when new. The areas that show cracks are already stressed and grinding down to good metal for weld prep won't help. Make your patches generously sized and keep the heat down. --Phil Barnes, '71 TR6 since 1977 From slowtoaccept at yahoo.com Tue Nov 2 17:57:03 2010 From: slowtoaccept at yahoo.com (Jerry C Shaw) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 20:57:03 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Frame Rehab Advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50FA22C770944C22A456B27028004CB4@JaneShawPC> Did I forget to say it requires expertise? As you saw if you looked at my website, I went with Ratco. The original frame is bent sheet metal. From: Philip Barnes Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:30 PM To: Jerry C Shaw Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net ; janah at att.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Frame Rehab Advice All this talk about frame welding should come with some caution. It's important to remember that the frames are old and certainly thinner than when new. The areas that show cracks are already stressed and grinding down to good metal for weld prep won't help. Make your patches generously sized and keep the heat down. --Phil Barnes, '71 TR6 since 1977 From wensley_tr at comcast.net Wed Nov 3 06:24:57 2010 From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 09:24:57 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Frame Rehab Advice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601cb7b5a$82c012d0$88403870$@net> John After you get all of this done AND KEEP THE FRAME STRAIGHT. You have a good chance of buying a new one. Good luck Craig -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Philip Barnes Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:30 PM To: Jerry C Shaw Cc: janah at att.net; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Frame Rehab Advice All this talk about frame welding should come with some caution. It's important to remember that the frames are old and certainly thinner than when new. The areas that show cracks are already stressed and grinding down to good metal for weld prep won't help. Make your patches generously sized and keep the heat down. --Phil Barnes, '71 TR6 since 1977 _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/wensley_tr at comcast.net From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Thu Nov 4 08:28:12 2010 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 08:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Frame Rehab Advice Message-ID: <832249.41924.qm@web65616.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I would think bringing your 1970 frame up to CF series frame specs is a good starting point for your work plan. I didn't do a frame-off, and, consequently ended up doing a series of as-required/as able frame repairs (4 jobs to date). Not the best way to go. Admittedly a frame-off requires more space, labour and know-how, but if you've got the engine and tranny out, you're a decent ways there. Are you part of a club? Club mates can be rounded up to help with the bigger jobs. Somebody will have been there, done that. Does your frame have any creases or damage from previous accidents? The stresses of these can sometimes take years to completely reveal themselves. Bruce Simms 73 From trmarty at hotmail.com Sun Nov 7 07:35:39 2010 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 09:35:39 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Dads wish list Message-ID: Here, you will no longer have to ask "what do you want"? :). I put together a list of safety equipment I will need to be able to go road racing. So when you are wondering what dad needs for what ever gift giving holiday comes up in the future (probably long term future) a small gift certificate to Summit Racing that I could apply towards the list would be perfect. Dad [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pdf] From lang at isis.mit.edu Mon Nov 8 07:28:53 2010 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert M. Lang) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:28:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [6pack] Dads wish list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, marty sukey wrote: > Here, you will no longer have to ask "what do you want"? :). I put together a > list of safety equipment I will need to be able to go road racing. So when you > are wondering what dad needs for what ever gift giving holiday comes up in the > future (probably long term future) a small gift certificate to Summit Racing > that I could apply towards the list would be perfect. It doesn't work. I tried. Apparently, logic and your actual needs are not the thrust of the question. It's kind of like the question: "what do YOU want to do this weekend?" and you answer "I intend to race/fish/loaf on coach/whatever" the retort is "well, YOUR Aunt will be XX years old this weekend, don't you think we should taker her out SUN afternoon?." I dont really think "you" in these cases is really the literal. > Dad Yours in sarcasm. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent 2010 NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mcmeganutt at aol.com Tue Nov 9 09:06:26 2010 From: mcmeganutt at aol.com (mcmeganutt at aol.com) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 11:06:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [6pack] 74 TR6 For Sale Message-ID: <8CD4E3F324ACC62-EF4-8F2@webmail-d092.sysops.aol.com> Hi, Passing this for sale request on, car is in Bolton,CT. NFI. Fred I have a 1974 TR-6 brown in color. It is in very good cond. Runs very well and has approximately 75,000 org. miles. I have rebuilt the trans., new rear brakes, new clutch, master cyl. for both the clutch and brakes, new alternator, belts, & hoses. I want $7,000 for the car (I have about $7,500+ into it) If you have any other questions feel free to give me a call, Call Tim at 860-659-9645 or email at twhite at gmail.com From john70350 at msn.com Wed Nov 10 17:12:27 2010 From: john70350 at msn.com (John Johnson) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 00:12:27 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Crankcase ventalation & Oil leaks Message-ID: I'm wondering if anyone has any crankcase ventilation or oil separator solutions that they have had success with on their TR's. If anyone has any solutions that have worked for them, I'd love to hear them, I have seen quite a few different systems and would appreciate any feedback regarding personal experience with what worked for you with your high compression engine. These things tend to leak enough when stock. Thanks, John From n197tr4 at cs.com Wed Nov 10 18:30:47 2010 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:30:47 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Crankcase ventalation & Oil leaks and Kas' New Book. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CD4F57336E8224-224C-50ED@webmail-d029.sysops.aol.com> 6 pack list For over 10 years I have used a system that gives me negative pressure in the crankcase. It is an old stock car/drag strip trick. It allegedly provides better ring sealing, too. Moroso, Summit, etc. sell the kit. A little drill and weld in the end of the header, add tube to engine and you have a system that gives you negative pressure courtesy of Bernoulli. Kit is threaded tube cut at an angle and a backfire valve....in fact two of each for a v-8 engine. pictures somewhere in photobucket.com/ambro on my TR4 engine. Extremely effective. I went from a drip dry chassis after a racing weekend to just a dry chassis. Kas is also devoting an entire chapter in his new book "KASTNER's TRIUMPHS" on engine oil leaks. The book is being printed literally as we 'speak'. Kas is taking pre-orders on his website kaskastner.com ask him to personalize it. He will have the books Sunday afternoon....2,000 OF THEM. It also includes a DVD of pictures in addition to the ones in the book. Joe A. -----Original Message----- From: John Johnson To: 6pack at autox.team.net <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Wed, Nov 10, 2010 6:12 pm Subject: [6pack] Crankcase ventalation & Oil leaks I'm wondering if anyone has any crankcase ventilation or oil separator solutions that they have had success with on their TR's. If anyone has any solutions that have worked for them, I'd love to hear them, I have seen quite a few different systems and would appreciate any feedback regarding personal experience with what worked for you with your high compression engine. These things tend to leak enough when stock. Thanks, John _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/n197tr4 at cs.com From v.navarrette at comcast.net Wed Nov 10 18:32:11 2010 From: v.navarrette at comcast.net (Vance Navarrette) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:32:11 -0800 Subject: [6pack] Crankcase ventalation & Oil leaks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <85DCBEF280FD40DE898000D308E4C257@HOMEBREW1> John: Using the factory solution here. Vent the crankcase into the emissions port on the Zeniths. Works great, neat and tidy, and lower emissions to boot. I feel all green just thinking about it. Vance -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:12 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Crankcase ventalation & Oil leaks I'm wondering if anyone has any crankcase ventilation or oil separator solutions that they have had success with on their TR's. If anyone has any solutions that have worked for them, I'd love to hear them, I have seen quite a few different systems and would appreciate any feedback regarding personal experience with what worked for you with your high compression engine. These things tend to leak enough when stock. Thanks, John From ikorey at comcast.net Wed Nov 10 19:24:37 2010 From: ikorey at comcast.net (Irv Korey) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:24:37 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Crankcase ventalation & Oil leaks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Richard Good's PCV valve kit worked great for me. Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:12 PM, John Johnson wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone has any crankcase ventilation or oil separator > solutions that they have had success with on their TR's. If anyone has any > solutions that have worked for them, I'd love to hear them, I have seen > quite > a few different systems and would appreciate any feedback regarding > personal > experience with what worked for you with your high compression engine. > These > things tend to leak enough when stock. From johnehorton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 12 10:20:48 2010 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:20:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <723769.85715.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://sites.google.com/site/6zimkd86un/susf4t From johnehorton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 12 10:21:04 2010 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:21:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <960021.21496.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://sites.google.com/site/fmadvmadbmaaa/kgka7l From johnehorton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 12 14:34:44 2010 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:34:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <422648.64785.qm@web51908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://sites.google.com/site/fhsjhfjshgsgww/xaxd8j From johnehorton at yahoo.com Fri Nov 12 14:34:59 2010 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:34:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <952769.77408.qm@web51905.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://sites.google.com/site/fbkbskbsbsaaa/jsgk7v From johnehorton at yahoo.com Mon Nov 15 11:23:16 2010 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:23:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <715275.37356.qm@web51902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://telecuidado.com/here.php From johnehorton at yahoo.com Mon Nov 15 11:22:55 2010 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:22:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <356878.91033.qm@web51908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://kristianleschner.com/here.php From stuartt at tlthompson.com Mon Nov 15 12:23:37 2010 From: stuartt at tlthompson.com (Stuart Thompson) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:23:37 -0600 Subject: [6pack] John Horton emails? Message-ID: What are all these emails about? They're coming from johnehorton at yahoo.com I've already received about a half dozen or more with no subject and a link to someplace I don't want to open without knowing what it is. Is it a virus? From dave at ranteer.com Mon Nov 15 13:03:44 2010 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:03:44 -0600 Subject: [6pack] prop shaft removal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?hi, all. getting some serious vibration that stops as soon as I remove my foot from the accelerator. thinking it might be the prop shaft. I want to ask this before I start: the exhaust header is attached correctly; unfortunately an overzealous muffler guy welded the rest of the system together (in other words, the joint between the exhaust and the header is fitted; the rest of the joints behind that are welded). it's a 72 with the 2 pipe system. does the exhaust have to be removed to remove the prop shaft? From tr6parts at charter.net Mon Nov 15 17:36:08 2010 From: tr6parts at charter.net (Al Salvatore) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:36:08 -0500 Subject: [6pack] John Horton emails? References: Message-ID: <2AD6B69C49314F0FAF193B8E09F130CD@Alan> Block the sender. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Thompson" To: "6 Pack list" <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:23 PM Subject: [6pack] John Horton emails? > What are all these emails about? > > They're coming from johnehorton at yahoo.com > > I've already received about a half dozen or more with no subject > and a link to someplace I don't want to open without knowing what > it is. > > Is it a virus? > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6parts at charter.net From forzion at maine.rr.com Mon Nov 15 17:48:52 2010 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (David Friedlander) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:48:52 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Bumpers Message-ID: <4CE1D4F4.2000506@maine.rr.com> Hey Folks! Anyone ever purchased polished stainless steel bumpers from the Harrington Group? *http://tinyurl.com/36896uf *Is polished stainless in your opinion better than original chrome or "just not the same?" Thanks for any insights..... Dave Friedlander '74-Six* * From bratt at sasktel.net Mon Nov 15 21:09:40 2010 From: bratt at sasktel.net (Ed Bratt) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:09:40 -0600 Subject: [6pack] John Horton emails? In-Reply-To: <2AD6B69C49314F0FAF193B8E09F130CD@Alan> References: <2AD6B69C49314F0FAF193B8E09F130CD@Alan> Message-ID: <1289880580.1244.6.camel@ed-desktop> Al: Speaking from experience: Sometimes the sender of the emails has hijacked the web address he is using to send spam. John Horton could be an innocent victim. Ed Bratt Regina, Saskatchewan 1976 TR6 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 19:36 -0500, Al Salvatore wrote: > Block the sender. From tr6taylor at webtv.net Mon Nov 15 22:59:08 2010 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 05:59:08 GMT Subject: [6pack] prop shaft removal Message-ID: Dave---It depends on the routing of the exhaust pipes, as to whether you'll have to remove them. Normally, you'll just have to undo the eight bolts that connects the propshaft flanges at both ends. You should be able to slip the unit down and out the front. If your tranny rubber mounts are old and soft, you may have to place a jack under it to raise it a tad. First, check the two propshaft u-joints to see if there is any slop in them when rotating the shaft back and forth. ANY play here is too much. If in doubt as to whether this is the area of concern, pump a few shots of grease into these two u-joint fittings and test the car. If this (temporarily) stops or softens the vibration, you're in the right place. Finally, propshaft u-joints usually telegraph their wear thru vibration in the gearshift lever and down in the pedal box floor pan. Dick From lfm614 at aol.com Tue Nov 16 06:22:47 2010 From: lfm614 at aol.com (lfm614 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:22:47 +0000 Subject: [6pack] John Horton emails? Message-ID: <972440740-1289913552-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2067651166-@bda586.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I doubt it from the emails we traded but still need to block it, he'll probably get another. ------Original Message------ From: Ed Bratt Sender: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net To: Al Salvatore Cc: TR-6 list Subject: Re: [6pack] John Horton emails? Sent: Nov 15, 2010 10:09 PM Al: Speaking from experience: Sometimes the sender of the emails has hijacked the web address he is using to send spam. John Horton could be an innocent victim. Ed Bratt Regina, Saskatchewan 1976 TR6 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 19:36 -0500, Al Salvatore wrote: > Block the sender. _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/lfm614 at aol.com From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Tue Nov 16 06:37:08 2010 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:37:08 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Bumpers In-Reply-To: <4CE1D4F4.2000506@maine.rr.com> References: <4CE1D4F4.2000506@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <9C8A80AC2E2841549A143E88E92DCEA5@laptopPC> Someone in the 6-Pack Forum bought them and posted very favorable reviews. Bob -----Original Message----- From: David Friedlander Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:48 PM To: 6-Pack Subject: [6pack] TR6 Bumpers Hey Folks! Anyone ever purchased polished stainless steel bumpers from the Harrington Group? *http://tinyurl.com/36896uf *Is polished stainless in your opinion better than original chrome or "just not the same?" Thanks for any insights..... Dave Friedlander '74-Six* * _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From lfm614 at aol.com Tue Nov 16 06:45:43 2010 From: lfm614 at aol.com (lfm614 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:45:43 +0000 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Bumpers Message-ID: <1397085752-1289914928-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1807316503-@bda586.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Yes, should search 6PACK. Few reviews and pictures on there. Lou ------Original Message------ From: Bob Danielson Sender: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net To: forzion at maine.rr.com To: TR-6 list Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 Bumpers Sent: Nov 16, 2010 7:37 AM Someone in the 6-Pack Forum bought them and posted very favorable reviews. Bob -----Original Message----- From: David Friedlander Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:48 PM To: 6-Pack Subject: [6pack] TR6 Bumpers Hey Folks! Anyone ever purchased polished stainless steel bumpers from the Harrington Group? *http://tinyurl.com/36896uf *Is polished stainless in your opinion better than original chrome or "just not the same?" Thanks for any insights..... Dave Friedlander '74-Six* * _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/lfm614 at aol.com From johnehorton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 16 07:43:51 2010 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:43:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <753745.34308.qm@web51908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://cardiologiedz.110mb.com/here.php From johnehorton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 16 07:44:11 2010 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 06:44:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <864676.52551.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://aliancadaterra.org.br/here.php From cregg.cowan at sri.com Tue Nov 16 09:28:42 2010 From: cregg.cowan at sri.com (Cregg Cowan) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:28:42 -0800 Subject: [6pack] John Horton emails Message-ID: <4CE2B13A.2090806@sri.com> I just heard back from John and, not surprisingly, he doesn't know where these messages come from. Just a guess, but maybe someone's personal archive of 6-pack emails got hacked/stolen. That would explain the recent unsolicited Canadian parts-supplier emails as well as this latest scam. I wish I had a good solution.... Cregg From johnehorton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 16 09:46:50 2010 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:46:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <812532.22957.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://www.reparacionesjm.com/here.php From johnehorton at yahoo.com Tue Nov 16 09:47:05 2010 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:47:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <267161.34303.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://ritmiedanzedalmondo.it/here.php From triosan at gmail.com Tue Nov 16 10:34:49 2010 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 17:34:49 +0000 Subject: [6pack] John Horton emails In-Reply-To: <4CE2B13A.2090806@sri.com> References: <4CE2B13A.2090806@sri.com> Message-ID: My guess is John has a virus that has taken overr his computer and is sending crap. Note the addresses these come from varies everytime. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Cregg Cowan wrote: > I just heard back from John and, not surprisingly, he doesn't know where > these messages come from. > > Just a guess, but maybe someone's personal archive of 6-pack emails got > hacked/stolen. That would explain the recent unsolicited Canadian > parts-supplier emails as well as this latest scam. > > I wish I had a good solution.... > > Cregg > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/triosan at gmail.com > > -- Chuck Arnold and Kathleen Kelley From levilevi at comcast.net Tue Nov 16 11:53:50 2010 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 11:53:50 -0700 Subject: [6pack] John Horton emails In-Reply-To: References: <4CE2B13A.2090806@sri.com> Message-ID: <59E21109-66AC-43D4-8F4B-34E81101ED6D@comcast.net> Ah ha, so that's why my computer isn't "learning" to automatically put them in the junk file after I've done it manually a few times. Thanks. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57806 (The Wreck-Almost parts) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi at comcast.net On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley wrote: > Note the addresses these come from varies everytime. From shawn.loseke at gmail.com Tue Nov 16 13:08:58 2010 From: shawn.loseke at gmail.com (shawn loseke) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:08:58 -0700 Subject: [6pack] John Horton emails In-Reply-To: <59E21109-66AC-43D4-8F4B-34E81101ED6D@comcast.net> References: <4CE2B13A.2090806@sri.com> <59E21109-66AC-43D4-8F4B-34E81101ED6D@comcast.net> Message-ID: gmail has been throwing his emails into my spam folder for a while now. On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > Ah ha, so that's why my computer isn't "learning" to automatically put them > in the junk file after I've done it manually a few times. > Thanks. > > > Bud Rolofson From john70350 at msn.com Wed Nov 17 18:44:11 2010 From: john70350 at msn.com (John Johnson) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 01:44:11 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Flywheel question Message-ID: I'm doing an engine swap in my Triumph and have a flywheel question. Installing a 1973 TR6 engine in a GT6 and was wondering if anyone had used the lighter GT6 flywheel on their TR6? The TR6 flywheel is much heavier and thicker. Any ideas would be appreciated. email me at john70350 at msn.com if you have any ideas, thanks. John Johnson Columbus, Ohio From j.honor at comcast.net Wed Nov 17 19:26:04 2010 From: j.honor at comcast.net (Joe Honor) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 20:26:04 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Flywheel question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9DEC8605-6FDD-40F1-A0E4-BF3E2B1F9061@comcast.net> Though I am not familiar with the gt6 weight etc I did swap a 14# aluminum flywheel in my 74 tr6 with very positive noticeable performance 3 years ago along with new clutch quicker response so seems worthwhile for your issue Regards Joe Joe Honor / Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:44 PM, John Johnson wrote: > I'm doing an engine swap in my Triumph and have a flywheel question. > Installing a 1973 TR6 engine in a GT6 and was wondering if anyone had used the > lighter GT6 flywheel on their TR6? The TR6 flywheel is much heavier and > thicker. Any ideas would be appreciated. email me at john70350 at msn.com if you > have any ideas, thanks. > > > John Johnson > Columbus, Ohio > _______________________________________________ > > 6pack at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/j.honor at comcast.net From v.navarrette at comcast.net Thu Nov 18 10:04:19 2010 From: v.navarrette at comcast.net (Vance Navarrette) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 09:04:19 -0800 Subject: [6pack] Flywheel question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <7234F75E7BE84CEB882F8C3F80BA728E@HOMEBREW1> John: I had my original TR6 flywheel lightened by almost 10 lbs when I rebuilt my motor. No regrets at all. If the GT6 flywheel is a drop in replacement, go for it. If there are any issues that prevent it from being a direct swap (or as the English would say, a direct swop) then by all means have your TR6 flywheel lightened. Vance -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 5:44 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Flywheel question I'm doing an engine swap in my Triumph and have a flywheel question. Installing a 1973 TR6 engine in a GT6 and was wondering if anyone had used the lighter GT6 flywheel on their TR6? The TR6 flywheel is much heavier and thicker. Any ideas would be appreciated. email me at john70350 at msn.com if you have any ideas, thanks. John Johnson Columbus, Ohio From dcmdcm at nc.rr.com Thu Nov 18 16:12:32 2010 From: dcmdcm at nc.rr.com (Douglas Morris) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:12:32 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Speaking of flywheels Message-ID: <7F76DD81-D174-4698-9F69-07D375CCF704@nc.rr.com> A while back my engine wouldn't crank, jammed hard; but everything from the clutch back was nice and free. I thought perhaps the backup bolt I installed on the throwout bearing fork had lost its nut and jammed the ring gear (perhaps due to stupidly re-using a nylock nut or somesuch). Nope, wasn't that. Two of the three small alignment pegs for the flywheel/pressure-plate interface came out, and one jammed between the ring gear and the case (no damage, just a few light scratches on the case, but the pegs are obviously toast). All the bolts were fully tight, and I re-torqued 'em with no movement. Two questions: 1. What would cause these to pop out? 2. Are they really necessary for operation, or are they just for installation alignment? Okay, three ... three questions: 3. Did I screw up somewhere? Doug Morris, NC, '74 TR-6 CF-18xxx-UO From apackard68 at att.net Fri Nov 19 12:34:33 2010 From: apackard68 at att.net (Andrew Packard) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 11:34:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Is anyone around to look at a car in Conroe, TX? Message-ID: <213174.42740.qm@web83811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> There is a GT6+ on ebay that looks reasonable (item #180588263604, but you never can tell without actually seeing the car. Is anyone in North Houston area that would be willing to take a look at it for me? If I won the auction, I would fly to Houston and drive it back to SF, so I'm concerned about it's condition to be able to do this drive. Thanks in advance for anyone available to help. Andy Packard 925 577-7704 From n197tr4 at cs.com Fri Nov 19 13:24:24 2010 From: n197tr4 at cs.com (n197tr4 at cs.com) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:24:24 -0500 Subject: [6pack] anyone around to look at a car in Conroe, TX? NOW LAGUNA SECA and KAS In-Reply-To: <213174.42740.qm@web83811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <213174.42740.qm@web83811.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CD563EE3FF5256-2020-8726@webmail-m096.sysops.aol.com> Andy, and 6 Pack A couple of heads up: We ( FOT) are going to be the featured marque at Laguna Seca next June 7-8 2011 with HMSA as sanctioning body. This will be the 9th in the ongoing Kastner Cub Series. We will want to have as many TR guys there in attendance as possible. More info will be forthcoming. Kas now has his new book in stock. About 1/4th of the book relates to the GT6 and other six cylinder Triumphs. You can get them direct from Kas on his website. KASKASTNER.COM Joe A. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Packard To: 6pack at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Nov 19, 2010 1:34 pm Subject: [6pack] Is anyone around to look at a car in Conroe, TX? There is a GT6+ on ebay that looks reasonable (item #180588263604, but you never can tell without actually seeing the car. Is anyone in North Houston area that would be willing to take a look at it for me? If I won the auction, I would fly to Houston and drive it back to SF, so I'm concerned about it's condition to be able to do this drive. Thanks in advance for anyone available to help. Andy Packard 925 577-7704 _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/n197tr4 at cs.com From tr6taylor at webtv.net Fri Nov 19 14:02:16 2010 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:02:16 GMT Subject: [6pack] Speaking of flywheels Message-ID: Doug---The three pins are for aligning the clutch, but ordinarily don't need to be removed after doing so. They should be in the flywheel tight enough to hold fast. You should find the new pins very tight, unless the flywheel holes have opened up for some reason. The clamping pressure of the six clutch-to-flywheel bolts should relieve the pins from doing any holding work. Of course the clutch alignment tool should slip in and out easily after the clutch bolts are tightened. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Morris Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 3:12 PM To: 6pack Subject: [6pack] Speaking of flywheels A while back my engine wouldn't crank, jammed hard; but everything from the clutch back was nice and free. I thought perhaps the backup bolt I installed on the throwout bearing fork had lost its nut and jammed the ring gear (perhaps due to stupidly re-using a nylock nut or somesuch). Nope, wasn't that. Two of the three small alignment pegs for the flywheel/pressure-plate interface came out, and one jammed between the ring gear and the case (no damage, just a few light scratches on the case, but the pegs are obviously toast). All the bolts were fully tight, and I re-torqued 'em with no movement. Two questions: 1. What would cause these to pop out? 2. Are they really necessary for operation, or are they just for installation alignment? Okay, three ... three questions: 3. Did I screw up somewhere? Doug Morris, NC, '74 TR-6 CF-18xxx-UO _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6taylor at webtv.net From johnehorton at yahoo.com Sat Nov 13 08:33:54 2010 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 07:33:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [6pack] Hacked Message-ID: <466522.38803.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I must appologise to you all. It seems that my personal computer was hacked and my address book was stolen by the Canidian pharmacy. Iam taking steps to make sure this does not happen again. Very sorry folks. John Horton From pim.alferink at gmail.com Fri Nov 26 12:28:02 2010 From: pim.alferink at gmail.com (Pim Alferink) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 20:28:02 +0100 Subject: [6pack] diff seals Message-ID: Dear listers, While prepping the car for a new paint job, I noticed that one of my diff seals is leaking......again. In the 14 years that I have the car (doing about 5000 miles/year) this must be the 3rd time I have to change the seals. Does anyone know of a higher quality drop in replacement seal? Or is this just bad luck? Pim Pimento '73 From tr6taylor at webtv.net Fri Nov 26 14:18:10 2010 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:18:10 GMT Subject: [6pack] diff seals Message-ID: Pim---A few things to check when/if doing this chore again...Take a look at the area where these seals do their work. For them to seal properly, the mating areas need to be free of the grooves that can wear in where the seal lips make contact. Sometimes the seal can be moved up or down the shaft a 1/16" or so to expose a new area. The bearings also need to be in good shape to keep these shafts from "moving away" from the points of seal contact. (Same goes for crankshaft seals). There can be some marginal benefit from shortening the spring contained in some of these seals. This can be done by cutting the spring a half inch or so, then twisting the spring back together. Supposedly giving a better clamp to the shaft. Rarely, but possible, the case vent can get plugged. Check out this small hole to be sure no pressure can build up inside. You should see a small cotter pin in this vent hole at the top of the case. Finally, I don't know the extent of the leaks you are finding. Know it's very difficult to keep these units totally leak-free, esp. at the pinion shaft/flange. One other solution is to go to the Infiniti limited $lip differential. Never heard of one of these leaking! Dick -----Original Message----- From: Pim Alferink Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 11:28 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] diff seals Dear listers, While prepping the car for a new paint job, I noticed that one of my diff seals is leaking......again. In the 14 years that I have the car (doing about 5000 miles/year) this must be the 3rd time I have to change the seals. Does anyone know of a higher quality drop in replacement seal? Or is this just bad luck? Pim Pimento '73 _______________________________________________ 6pack at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/tr6taylor at webtv.net From im_sloane at hotmail.com Sun Nov 28 05:00:30 2010 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 12:00:30 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Need red reflector lens for stop/tail lens Message-ID: Hey all, I've lost the red rectangle lens that covers the reflector on the stop/tail lamp. I know from experience that either side will fit. Does anybody have an otherwise broken stop/tail lens with the little snap on reflector lens intact? thanks, Sloane :) 69-Six From tr6taylor at webtv.net Tue Nov 30 13:40:58 2010 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 20:40:58 GMT Subject: [6pack] Crankcase ventalation & Oil leaks Message-ID: John---The original system of venting the crankcase into the ZS carbs works well enough for engines that do not have excessive blowby. If you no longer have the ZS' and have the SU, there is a port on them, intended to give vacuum advance, that can provide a connection to the engine. It's just a matter of rigging tubing between the two. I've not found it really necessary to use vacuum to vent the engine. It's combustion pressure we're dealing with, so any decent means of letting it out (without going thru the seals!) should work. I will admit to fudging here a bit, as I have both the valve cover port venting into the air filter housing (but not thru the filter itself) as well as a tube running from the original fuel pump opening blanking plate to the SU vacuum port. Between the two, there is no crankcase pressure buildup. (I have connected pressure gauges in key spots to monitor this under full boost). Then there is the Goodparts system that should work well. Looks pretty trick! Dick