From bmiles at intinfo.com Mon Jun 1 12:16:28 2009 From: bmiles at intinfo.com (Bruce Miles) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 14:16:28 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Family Feud Questionnaire for 2009 Message-ID: <003701c9e2e5$15674f50$4035edf0$@com> Same questions as last year - but hopefully more responses (if you did the survey last year, please take a few moments and do it again) See our survey at http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/139852/trials-2009-family-feud If you have any difficulty, please let me know - looking forward to September! You TRials Feud MC - Bruce Miles, Editor, Buckeye Triumphs Newsletter bmiles at intinfo.com From tr6taylor at webtv.net Mon Jun 1 13:45:39 2009 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:45:39 GMT Subject: [6pack] Crossland oil filter Message-ID: Don Erickson's patience with me finally showed that the oi bipass valve really does open the way he said, and the Bentley showed. I took the spare by-pass valve that I had and soaked it in thinner and WD-40 overnight and viola! The valve actually did open the way Don said it should. It took an icepick down thru he small holes and more force that I thought it would, but it did open! Thanks again, Don. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Don Erickson Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 9:14 AM To: Sally or Dick Taylor Cc: John Mitchell, 6-Pack, triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Crossland oil filter On Sun, 31 May 2009, Sally or Dick Taylor wrote: > Don---Thanks for continuing on this. Maybe I just have the filter parts > stacked wrong, but it looks like oil can't go anyway but thru the middle > of the filter to the outside.. I managed to find my old filter housing, and I think I see what you're saying. But the obvious spring that presses against the housing and filter spacer/centerer at the bolt head is not the by-pass spring, it just holds the spacer and thus the paper element against the block and doesn't move nor change it's pressure as long as the filter is in place. Look closely at the inside of that round spacer, there's another spring inside of it that IS the by-pass spring, this is the spring that gets compressed by the oil pressure coming from the outside of the filter. You're assuming that the spacer flange is the bypass valve seat. Rather, the valve seat is inside of the spacer and is lifted open going the other direction. That's got to be how it works. All round filters filter outside-in, I've never heard of an exception to this rule. It's also what the Bentry manual shows. It's not necessarily intuitive, but that's my story. Regards, -Don From standardtriumph at btinternet.com Mon Jun 1 15:18:41 2009 From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 22:18:41 +0100 Subject: [6pack] The Triumph Trans-AmeriCan Charity Drive Stag is effectively READY!!! Message-ID: <579A2DE3824E4A8383E49EBE280708CF@John> There's an old saying, "the impossible we can do now - miracles take a little longer. If you haven't been following developments over the last week or so - or didn't hear what happened, it may come as a surprise to know that a great deal has taken place on both sides of the 'big pond' - but especially in the States. And the States side of things *definitely* wasn't planned! A miracle has truly been worked by the ISOA team under Joe Pawlak following a disastrous gearbox failure on 24th May. Thanks in no small measure to many enthusiasts across the North American continent - and especially to those in the corridors of power at Victoria British who responded to an urgent need in incredible style. My very sincere and heartfelt thanks to everyone who truly made everything a veritable miracle. This is a manifestation of true teamwork, the like of which I have never previously seen or known. The website is updated with pix of the Unveiling Ceremony in Hampshire, Illinois on Sunday afternoon. Go have a look and see what ISOA has managed to achieve in 66 weekends of unmitigating slog - and probably a good many weekday nights as well. You guys are AMAZING! Also, the website now has a new page for a *different* type of Memorabilia and Regalia. Have a look at that too! John Macartney Originator of The Triumph Trans-America Charity Drive 2009 www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk An event for full TRIUMPH Enthusiast participation From rccpl1 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 2 10:22:11 2009 From: rccpl1 at yahoo.com (john doe) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] interior panels Message-ID: <9733.662.qm@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> has anyone bought the interior panels from vb From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Tue Jun 2 14:36:34 2009 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:36:34 -0400 Subject: [6pack] interior panels In-Reply-To: <9733.662.qm@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <9733.662.qm@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <779DC9C7AE3D4DE1A6E1A9A3216C9D0B@BOBSNEWPC> I've had their complete interior kit in my car for about 11 years now and its held up very well. If I were to redo the interior today, I'd probably consider Prestige Autotrim http://www.prestigeautotrim.com/index.htm Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john doe Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:22 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] interior panels has anyone bought the interior panels from vb 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From FSZEK at aol.com Tue Jun 2 19:43:33 2009 From: FSZEK at aol.com (FSZEK at aol.com) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:43:33 EDT Subject: [6pack] List healthy ? Message-ID: Is everyone still out there on the 6 pack list ? **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! 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Bob Style Message-ID: Hey, Check out this vid that I just posted: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jlml3WErfQ I could have been a bit smoother, but all-in-all I was very satisfied getting the old horse out again... The comment about the drift was that my mechanic somehow left an 8" drift in the engine compartment that liberated itself on the first or second offset. The guy that returned it was less than pleased with the episode. Doh! c ya, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org Wed Jun 3 11:15:51 2009 From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:15:51 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Triumph Trans America Drive, Stand ... Part 1 Message-ID: <4A26AFC7.5030409@tscusa.org> All, I am not sure it the original email was too long because I have not seen it in the main 4 archives. So I split it in two parts .... By now many of you have been following our latest trials and tribulations of the STTAG, a.k.a. Uncle Jack. and the Triumph Trans America Charity Drive 2009. Well a lot has transpired since the transmission exploded Sunday 24 May 2009. Replacement transmission was generously sourced by Duncan Wood of Red River Triumphs, the rebuild kits supplied by John Esposito of Quantum Mechanics, the OD setup supplied by myself., shipping by Steve Yott of ISOA. Upon timely arrival of all the components at the ISOA rebuilding destination, a quick inspection showed a mouse hole in the side of the OD shipping box - yep, the replacement main shaft had vanished from the box!!! Through another showing of extreme support for this cause and generosity, a new J type OD main shaft, pump cam, clips and such were sourced at Victoria British and provided free of charge by Susan Berkowitz of Victoria British, packed up and shipped FedEx Saturday delivery. By now we have all seen it miracles the ISOA STTAG team will work with this new pile of parts, the results are spectacular! (see part 2) -- Glenn A. Merrell TTA North American Coordinator Triumph Trans-America Charity Drive 2009 The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield, and the occasional smell of manure! From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org Wed Jun 3 11:17:22 2009 From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:17:22 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Triumph Trans America Drive, Part 2 ... and be counted for Uncle Jack!! Message-ID: <4A26B022.6030501@tscusa.org> part 2 So ... Now is the time to stand up and be counted. So, are you a Friend of Triumph , Triumph enthusiast, or one of the believers in this Trans American Charity Drive and cause, waiting to see Uncle Jack hit the highway in Florida and finish in San Luis Obispo? Want to prove the nay sayers WRONG!!! The way points and stopovers of this route are pretty much defined, one or two may be added. However the routes in between each host club are wide open and up to the host clubs to decide for John. These clubs should be talking with each neighbor host club for meeting with John at the midpoint between their club and the departing host club, and caravaning with John to the midpoint toward the next host club. One car or two hundred, bring them all to meet John from the previous club and see him off to the next club. Contact your Governor, local media and let them know what this drive is all about. I know times are tough for all of us, but this drive needs ALL of our help to arrive safely at Triumphest / NATC 2009 in San Luis Obispo. John Macartney has invested a huge amount of his own personal funds to make this drive and provide necessary parts for the STTAG. ISOA has invested a bunch of time and money into this restoration taking the full restoration on themselves. ISOA for one could sure use your support. Send them a few bucks and and tell them "thank you for your hard work over the past 14 months!" http://www.snic-braaapp.org/iapply.pdf Please become informed about the host clubs along John's route, talk to John at one of the stop overs and put some cash in his hand and say "Thank you John Macartney for promoting awareness for this terrible affliction - PTSD" and visit http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk/ and stay updated with regular emails - sign up at http://triumphtransamerica.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/triumphtrans-americainfo_triumphtransamerica.org.uk Caravan along with the STTAG, pick up a meal or a tank of gas for John, or send in a charitable donation of your own directly to one of the selected PTSD / Trauma charities or organizations. Get your local club involved in identifying your own local PTSD charity and aid organizations, and VA hospitals. DO IT!! See you in Florida, all along the routes, and San Luis Obispo for Triumphest / NATC 2009!! -- Glenn A. Merrell TTA North American Coordinator Triumph Trans-America Charity Drive 2009 The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield, and the occasional smell of manure! From TR250Driver at aol.com Wed Jun 3 12:01:54 2009 From: TR250Driver at aol.com (TR250Driver at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 14:01:54 EDT Subject: [6pack] Test Message-ID: Hey Guys, Is anyone out there? I have been in the dark with no posts since 5/26. I miss you guys. Is it my AOL? Darrell **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org Wed Jun 3 12:39:13 2009 From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:39:13 -0600 Subject: [6pack] [Fwd: solicitations from other clubs to the TTA Stag] Message-ID: <4A26C351.8000408@tscusa.org> -------- Original Message -------- Glenn, Can you see if we can get a club to donate a complete tool kit for the car. This would be tools suitable for maintenance of a british car. fairly compact and has the bits needed to facilitate any repairs. I would also like to have a carb synchronizer and a mixture adjustment tool added to the mix. I would like this before the trip to Florida. -- Joe Pawlak VI DataPrint Burlington Illinois 847/683-9683 joe at vidataprint.com Greetings All Now the the TTA STTAG is in perfect form again and looking absolutely marvelous, we are in need of a suitable toolkit for the boot. If any clubs wish to support this drive by assembling a quality tool kit, Please contact me directly 303-665-6040 mailbox #5 stagbytriumph at tscusa.org -- Glenn A. Merrell TTA North American Coordinator The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield! From ms6453 at optonline.net Wed Jun 3 12:25:07 2009 From: ms6453 at optonline.net (Mitch) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:25:07 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <56305DF37379419B8157D2800C8AA820@marcydesk> Still here. I think many listers post directly on the 6Pack forum lately. That may account for the light traffic. The forum allows you to post pics as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; <6pack at autox.team.net>; Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: [6pack] Test > Hey Guys, > Is anyone out there? I have been in the dark with no posts since 5/26. > I > miss you guys. Is it my AOL? > Darrell > > **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d > oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as ms6453 at optonline.net > _______ Mitch Seff Brite Do-it best Hardware Locksmiths-Industrial supply 112-15 Jamaica Ave 718-849-8121 Fax 718-849-8567 www.brite.doitbest.com brithard at optonline.net From forzion at maine.rr.com Wed Jun 3 13:42:41 2009 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (Dave) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:42:41 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Test In-Reply-To: <56305DF37379419B8157D2800C8AA820@marcydesk> Message-ID: <20090603194241.C9KE7.54732.root@hrndva-web06-z02> May also that be many listers are out enjoying the fruit of their labors over the winter! It's crusing time! Dave '74-Six ---- Mitch wrote: > Still here. I think many listers post directly on the 6Pack forum lately. > That may account for the light traffic. The forum allows you to post pics as > well. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; <6pack at autox.team.net>; > > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:01 PM > Subject: [6pack] Test > > > > Hey Guys, > > Is anyone out there? I have been in the dark with no posts since 5/26. > > I > > miss you guys. Is it my AOL? > > Darrell > > > > **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com > > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d > > oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > 6pack at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > You are subscribed as ms6453 at optonline.net > > > > > > _______ > > Mitch Seff > Brite Do-it best Hardware > Locksmiths-Industrial supply > 112-15 Jamaica Ave > 718-849-8121 Fax 718-849-8567 > www.brite.doitbest.com > brithard at optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as forzion at maine.rr.com From TR250Driver at aol.com Wed Jun 3 13:54:13 2009 From: TR250Driver at aol.com (TR250Driver at aol.com) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:54:13 EDT Subject: [6pack] Test Message-ID: In a message dated 6/3/2009 3:43:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, forzion at maine.rr.com writes: May also that be many listers are out enjoying the fruit of their labors over the winter! It's crusing time! Thanks Guys, I have received several responses from all three lists so evidently I can post to the lists but I am not receiving any list posts, just off list posts. Does anyone out there have AOL with normal List function? None of the response so far are AOL customers that I can tell. My spam folder was blocking a few List posts before this total crash. Nothing going in there now. Darrell Going to be cruising in the TR3B in a few short weeks @ the TRA National Meeting in Maryland! **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org Wed Jun 3 14:02:58 2009 From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:02:58 -0600 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Test In-Reply-To: <56305DF37379419B8157D2800C8AA820@marcydesk> References: <56305DF37379419B8157D2800C8AA820@marcydesk> Message-ID: <4A26D6F2.8070809@tscusa.org> Gents, My posts do not seem to be getting through to the Triumph and TR8 list, but are getting posted on the 6 pack and Spits. Same server and list software, same common registration details and options, but different posting results. Not quite sure what is up with that. Mark? Glenn Mitch wrote: > Still here. I think many listers post directly on the 6Pack forum > lately. That may account for the light traffic. The forum allows you > to post pics as well. > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: ; <6pack at autox.team.net>; > > Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:01 PM > Subject: [6pack] Test > > >> Hey Guys, >> Is anyone out there? I have been in the dark with no posts since >> 5/26. I >> miss you guys. Is it my AOL? >> Darrell >> > -- Glenn A. Merrell Chairman, Triumph Stag Club USA (2007-2009) The best trophies are miles on the odometer, stone chips in the paint, dead bugs on the windshield! From trguy at cfl.rr.com Wed Jun 3 14:19:33 2009 From: trguy at cfl.rr.com (James Henningsen) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:19:33 -0400 Subject: [6pack] TRF Summer Party Caravan Message-ID: <001d01c9e488$9bd7dbf0$d38793d0$@rr.com> We have a caravan of Triumph's heading up from Florida, GA, and NC to TRF Summer party on August 7 & 8. We are meeting in Asheville Sunday evening August 2 and staying over at the Baymount Hotel (2.5 miles from the Blue Ridge on ramp). On Monday morning we will be heading up the Blue Ridge to Fancy Gap for an evening stay (190 miles that day). Tuesday morning we drive the last 200 miles of the Blue Ridge and stop at Waynesboro, VA. Wednesday morning we head up the skyline drive to Front Royal and TRF after that. We like to call the Blue Ridge, the "blurr ridge" if you get our drift. We depart TRF Sunday August 9 for Wythesville VA via interstate. On Monday we head back down the blue ridge to Asheville. I have all the hotel information for all the stops. There will be plenty of drive, stop, and drive along the blue ridge. A few little hikes to scenic spots too. If anyone wants to join us please email me off line. Now, it's time to get the TR in battle ready form. Drag racing anyone! Cheers, Jim Henningsen 75 TR6 CF35914U Maitland, FL From wensley_tr at comcast.net Wed Jun 3 14:34:13 2009 From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:34:13 -0400 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003401c9e48a$a88db9d0$f9a92d70$@net> You may need some help....That be WEST VIRGINIA -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TR250Driver at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 3:54 PM To: forzion at maine.rr.com; spitfires at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Test In a message dated 6/3/2009 3:43:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, forzion at maine.rr.com writes: May also that be many listers are out enjoying the fruit of their labors over the winter! It's crusing time! Thanks Guys, I have received several responses from all three lists so evidently I can post to the lists but I am not receiving any list posts, just off list posts. Does anyone out there have AOL with normal List function? None of the response so far are AOL customers that I can tell. My spam folder was blocking a few List posts before this total crash. Nothing going in there now. Darrell Going to be cruising in the TR3B in a few short weeks @ the TRA National Meeting in Maryland! **************Shop Inspiron, Studio and XPS Laptops at Dell.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222616459x1201464730/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fad.d oubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215218145%3B37264238%3Bd) This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register http://www.vtr.org Triumphs at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs You are subscribed as wensley_tr at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive From trguy at cfl.rr.com Wed Jun 3 16:19:43 2009 From: trguy at cfl.rr.com (James Henningsen) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:19:43 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Tranny Oil Message-ID: <002801c9e499$6583b770$308b2650$@rr.com> Team: I have run Valvoline 80w-90 gear oil and 30 weight non-detergent in my OD tranny and for some odd reason the 30 weight leaks more. Could be coincidental. I have a little trouble getting into reverse so I thought about trying Red Line synthetics as that cured a synchro issue in my TR8. Has anyone used Red Line MTL (70w-80w) or MT-90 (75w-90) and are pleased with the results. Thanks in advance. Jim Henningsen 75 TR6 CF35914U Maitland, FL From peterschop at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 20:23:42 2009 From: peterschop at gmail.com (Peter Schoppelry) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:23:42 -0500 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Test Message-ID: I also have not received any mail from 6pack or the Triumph list since May 26th with my AOL account either. On the 26th, I received six digests from the 6pack and seven from the Triumph list, then nothing. I have checked my AOL spam folder and the mail was not there. It just did not come through. I had to sign up with my gmail account to continue receiving the list. What is up with AOL and the list? I have been using the AOL account for many years and receive all my mail with it but now have go to another email server to receive my TR list. Peter Schoppelry > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:54:13 EDT > From: TR250Driver at aol.com > Subject: Re: [TR] Test > To: forzion at maine.rr.com, spitfires at autox.team.net, > 6pack at autox.team.net, triumphs at autox.team.net > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > In a message dated 6/3/2009 3:43:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > forzion at maine.rr.com writes: > > May also that be many listers are out enjoying the > fruit of their labors over the winter! It's crusing > time! > > > Thanks Guys, > I have received several responses from all three lists so evidently I can > post to the lists but I am not receiving any list posts, just off list > posts. Does anyone out there have AOL with normal List function? None of > the > response so far are AOL customers that I can tell. My spam folder was > blocking a few List posts before this total crash. Nothing going in there > now. > Darrell > Going to be cruising in the TR3B in a few short weeks @ the TRA National > Meeting in Maryland! From sbeaulieu at caci.com Thu Jun 4 14:02:58 2009 From: sbeaulieu at caci.com (Stephen Beaulieu) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:02:58 -0400 Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 06/04/2009 and will not return until 06/09/2009. I will respond to your message when I return. From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Thu Jun 4 15:00:34 2009 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:00:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Tranny Oil Message-ID: <970953.86322.qm@web65610.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> MT90 was recommended for OD and works great. Even the LBC mechanic remarked on how smooth the tranny is. Leaks though, but a common issue with these trannies it seems. Fill er up 1-2 times a season. Bruce Simms 73 with a not rebuilt A type __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From FSZEK at aol.com Mon Jun 8 08:31:21 2009 From: FSZEK at aol.com (FSZEK at aol.com) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:31:21 EDT Subject: [6pack] AOL censorship? Message-ID: Has anyone on the list with AOL been dumped besides me ? Are any AOLers getting list mail ? Feeling left out, Frank **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585043x1201462775/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62) From tr250driver at gmail.com Mon Jun 8 09:49:08 2009 From: tr250driver at gmail.com (darrell floyd) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:49:08 -0400 Subject: [6pack] AOL censorship? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9de671280906080849h50bb24b3x4d0115662cb8eab4@mail.gmail.com> I have also had problems with the List and AOL. No posts from the List since 5/26. This is my first attempt @ Gmail. Darrell On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:31 AM, wrote: > Has anyone on the list with AOL been dumped besides me ? Are any AOLers > > getting list mail ? > > Feeling > left out, > Frank > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > ( > http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585043x1201462775/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= > JunestepsfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as tr250driver at gmail.com From triumph at 2simpleusa.com Mon Jun 8 10:57:19 2009 From: triumph at 2simpleusa.com (Tony Gordon) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:57:19 -0400 Subject: [6pack] TR6 CWP on eBay (NFI) References: <9de671280906080849h50bb24b3x4d0115662cb8eab4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4762407C9E974AC9AF8FCA8767EB83A2@D1TG6Y71> A while ago, someone had asked about getting a 3.45:1 CWP for a US based TR6 to repace the 3.7 standard over here. I noticed that there is a used one on eBay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140325568326&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 NFI Tony Gordon From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Mon Jun 8 13:15:27 2009 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:15:27 -0400 Subject: [6pack] AOL censorship? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A2D634F.1030302@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> Frank, For the past two weeks there have been quite a few AOL guys asking the same question. Your posts are making it to the List so the List has you as a valid subscriber but AOL appears to be "blocking" or marking all List mail as junk/spam. The AOL guys on the Triumph Mail List have the same complaint. Seeing as both Triumph & 6-Pack are from autox.team.net, therein may lie the problem from AOL's perspective. My advice is to hope the Mail List problems get cleared up but in the meantime come on over to www.6-pack.org and www.britishcarforum.com for your fix of all things Triumph. You'll be surprised at how many of the Mail List guys hang out in these forums. Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org FSZEK at aol.com wrote: > Has anyone on the list with AOL been dumped besides me ? Are any AOLers > > getting list mail ? > > Feeling > left out, > Frank > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585043x1201462775/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= > JunestepsfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Mon Jun 8 13:17:50 2009 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 15:17:50 -0400 Subject: [6pack] AOL censorship? In-Reply-To: <9de671280906080849h50bb24b3x4d0115662cb8eab4@mail.gmail.com> References: <9de671280906080849h50bb24b3x4d0115662cb8eab4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A2D63DE.7070506@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> Darrell, The GMail address worked fine for posting. Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org darrell floyd wrote: > I have also had problems with the List and AOL. No posts from the List > since 5/26. This is my first attempt @ Gmail. > Darrell > > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:31 AM, wrote: > >> Has anyone on the list with AOL been dumped besides me ? Are any AOLers >> >> getting list mail ? >> >> Feeling >> left out, >> Frank >> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy >> steps! >> ( >> http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222585043x1201462775/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= >> JunestepsfooterNO62) >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> 6pack at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> You are subscribed as tr250driver at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Tue Jun 9 08:38:27 2009 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 07:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] TR6 Front Spring Compressor Message-ID: <706533.16559.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Are there directions anywhere to make up a TR6 front spring compressor? What length of threaded rod is needed? Thanks, Bruce Simms 73 TR6 __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From trguy at cfl.rr.com Tue Jun 9 18:08:07 2009 From: trguy at cfl.rr.com (James Henningsen) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:08:07 -0400 Subject: [6pack] OD Tranny Leak Question Message-ID: <001501c9e95f$8901c7d0$9b055770$@rr.com> Is there any magic beyond a new gasket to stopping leaks from the rectangular cover plate that covers the metal screen filter on the OD. I have a relatively new gasket and just removed the plate to inspect and clean the filter during an oil change. Red Line MT-90 is now in the box but the car is still on jack stands so I can't give a review yet. Thanks in advance, Jim Henningsen Maitland FL CF35914U 75 TR6 From ron at rvar.net Wed Jun 10 09:50:29 2009 From: ron at rvar.net (ron) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:50:29 -0500 Subject: [6pack] OD Tranny Leak Question References: <001501c9e95f$8901c7d0$9b055770$@rr.com> Message-ID: James, We don't use gaskets on our transmission rebuilds, we assemble them with Permatex "Right Stuff" and have very good results. BTW, we use it for most of the gaskets on the engines we build. Head, intake/exhaust excluded!! Some examples (completed cars) at www.rvar.shutterfly.com Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Henningsen" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:08 PM Subject: [6pack] OD Tranny Leak Question > Is there any magic beyond a new gasket to stopping leaks from the > rectangular cover plate that covers the metal screen filter on the OD. I > have a relatively new gasket and just removed the plate to inspect and > clean > the filter during an oil change. Red Line MT-90 is now in the box but > the > car is still on jack stands so I can't give a review yet. > > Thanks in advance, > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Henningsen" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:08 PM Subject: [6pack] OD Tranny Leak Question > Is there any magic beyond a new gasket to stopping leaks from the > rectangular cover plate that covers the metal screen filter on the OD. I > have a relatively new gasket and just removed the plate to inspect and > clean > the filter during an oil change. Red Line MT-90 is now in the box but > the > car is still on jack stands so I can't give a review yet. > > Thanks in advance, > > Jim Henningsen > > Maitland FL > > CF35914U > > 75 TR6 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as rgh at vvm.com From osternd at copper.net Wed Jun 10 11:05:01 2009 From: osternd at copper.net (osternd at copper.net) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:05:01 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Help with A-type OD wiring Message-ID: <20090610100501.ADB81C16@resin17.mta.everyone.net> From osternd at copper.net Wed Jun 10 11:12:46 2009 From: osternd at copper.net (osternd at copper.net) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:12:46 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Help with A-type OD wiring Message-ID: <20090610101246.ADB8225B@resin17.mta.everyone.net> I'm looking for someone that can help me out on getting some information about TR6 A-type overdrive wiring - preferably someone who has an earlier TR6 with the original A-type and wiring. A little background: I've designed an overdrive controller (an easy to use module that locks the OD out after shifting out of gear) for my TR6 w/ J-type OD, and have been pretty happy with it. So, I've decided to build a few of these modules and have all the details worked out for the J-type OD. However, since I don't have an A-type for reference, I need some information to get me past the last design hurdle for this. Two questions: 1) The schematic shows a yellow/green wire connecting the driver's OD switch to the OD relay on the firewall. Looks like there is an in-line bullet connector in-between. What I don't know is where the connector is. I assume it's under the dash close to the steering column. The module would need to access these two connections. 2) With my J-type TR6, the OD wires route to the OD from the passenger side of the transmission tunnel close to the firewall (behind the kidney panels). There should be a yellow wire with in-line bullet connector (for the OD inhibitor switch) along with a green wire (reverse lights) with bullet connectors. Might also be a yellow/purple wire, but not sure - Anybody willing to get their hands a little dirty and check this out for me? You'd have my undying gratitude! :) TIA Dale O From levilevi at comcast.net Wed Jun 10 12:17:07 2009 From: levilevi at comcast.net (Bud Rolofson) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:17:07 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Help with A-type OD wiring In-Reply-To: <20090610101246.ADB8225B@resin17.mta.everyone.net> References: <20090610101246.ADB8225B@resin17.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: Dale, My A-type is wired the same as you described in #2 (I was under there recently tracking down a bad relay and a bad switch). There's also a purple/yellow wire at that connecter. The relay had simply worn out but the bad switch was mostly my fault for not getting that chrome benzel tight enough on the escutcheon so consequently the switch would move and I'd twist it back. After a few too many times of that the white wire got fatigued and broke at the switch. It paid me back by being an intermittent problem that would connect one time and not the next as I'd rumble along the highway. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57806 (The Wreck-Almost parts) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi at comcast.net On Jun 10, 2009, at 11:12 AM, wrote: > I'm looking for someone that can help me out on getting some > information about TR6 A-type overdrive wiring - preferably > someone who has an earlier TR6 with the original A-type and > wiring. > > A little background: I've designed an overdrive controller (an > easy to use module that locks the OD out after shifting out of > gear) for my TR6 w/ J-type OD, and have been pretty happy with > it. So, I've decided to build a few of these modules and have > all the details worked out for the J-type OD. However, since I > don't have an A-type for reference, I need some information to > get me past the last design hurdle for this. Two questions: > > > > 1) The schematic shows a yellow/green wire connecting the > driver's OD switch to the OD relay on the firewall. Looks like > there is an in-line bullet connector in-between. What I don't > know is where the connector is. I assume it's under the dash > close to the steering column. The module would need to access > these two connections. > > > > 2) With my J-type TR6, the OD wires route to the OD from the > passenger side of the transmission tunnel close to the firewall > (behind the kidney panels). There should be a yellow wire with > in-line bullet connector (for the OD inhibitor switch) along > with a green wire (reverse lights) with bullet connectors. > Might also be a yellow/purple wire, but not sure - > > > > Anybody willing to get their hands a little dirty and check > this out for me? You'd have my undying gratitude! :) > > > > TIA > > > > Dale O > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as levilevi at comcast.net From yellowtr at adelphia.net Wed Jun 10 17:54:24 2009 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:54:24 -0400 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Front Spring Compressor In-Reply-To: <706533.16559.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <706533.16559.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200906101954.25659.yellowtr@adelphia.net> On Tuesday 09 June 2009 10:38:27 am Bruce Simms wrote: > Are there directions anywhere to make up a TR6 front spring compressor? > What length of threaded rod is needed? > > Thanks, > > Bruce Simms > 73 TR6 Bruce, I made one with the following specs. 1/2 threaded steel rod 19" Welded to a 1/8 inch thick 8 * 2 plate. The plate finally started to bend when I started the work on the 6 so I added a 1 * 8 inch piece of angle iron to the bottom (back side) of the bottom plate. This worked fine when I re-assembled the front suspension. This tool has worked on my 3, 4 and now on my 6. Tighten with the nut on the top against some very large (1.5") washers on the top. To prevent scratching a freshly painted spring pan, I use a section of 3/4" plywood between the spring pan and the bottom plate. Let me know and I can forward you a photo, but really there is nothing to it. The plate and angle iron are attached to the rod with a strong braze. But I am guessing you can attach the plate and angle iron with just a top and bottom nut. Bob From trguy at cfl.rr.com Wed Jun 10 18:12:41 2009 From: trguy at cfl.rr.com (James Henningsen) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:12:41 -0400 Subject: [6pack] OD Tranny Leak Question In-Reply-To: References: <001501c9e95f$8901c7d0$9b055770$@rr.com> Message-ID: <001e01c9ea29$5898afd0$09ca0f70$@rr.com> Ron: I hadn't heard of that before and am open to trying it since you have had success. Thanks for the tip. Jim -----Original Message----- From: ron [mailto:ron at rvar.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:50 AM To: James Henningsen; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] OD Tranny Leak Question James, We don't use gaskets on our transmission rebuilds, we assemble them with Permatex "Right Stuff" and have very good results. BTW, we use it for most of the gaskets on the engines we build. Head, intake/exhaust excluded!! Some examples (completed cars) at www.rvar.shutterfly.com Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Henningsen" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:08 PM Subject: [6pack] OD Tranny Leak Question > Is there any magic beyond a new gasket to stopping leaks from the > rectangular cover plate that covers the metal screen filter on the OD. I > have a relatively new gasket and just removed the plate to inspect and > clean > the filter during an oil change. Red Line MT-90 is now in the box but > the > car is still on jack stands so I can't give a review yet. > > Thanks in advance, > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Henningsen" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:08 PM Subject: [6pack] OD Tranny Leak Question > Is there any magic beyond a new gasket to stopping leaks from the > rectangular cover plate that covers the metal screen filter on the OD. I > have a relatively new gasket and just removed the plate to inspect and > clean > the filter during an oil change. Red Line MT-90 is now in the box but > the > car is still on jack stands so I can't give a review yet. > > Thanks in advance, > > Jim Henningsen > > Maitland FL > > CF35914U > > 75 TR6 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as rgh at vvm.com From johncnorth at gmail.com Wed Jun 10 18:38:27 2009 From: johncnorth at gmail.com (John North) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:38:27 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Help with A-type OD wiring In-Reply-To: <20090610101246.ADB8225B@resin17.mta.everyone.net> References: <20090610101246.ADB8225B@resin17.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <49f668fe0906101738v7b042c94r9e3daddda40c749d@mail.gmail.com> How do you plan to sell these ? I would be interested in a price for the j-type... John North On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, wrote: > I'm looking for someone that can help me out on getting some > information about TR6 A-type overdrive wiring - preferably > someone who has an earlier TR6 with the original A-type and > wiring. > > A little background: I've designed an overdrive controller (an > easy to use module that locks the OD out after shifting out of > gear) for my TR6 w/ J-type OD, and have been pretty happy with > it. So, I've decided to build a few of these modules and have > all the details worked out for the J-type OD. However, since I > don't have an A-type for reference, I need some information to > get me past the last design hurdle for this. Two questions: > > > > 1) The schematic shows a yellow/green wire connecting the > driver's OD switch to the OD relay on the firewall. Looks like > there is an in-line bullet connector in-between. What I don't > know is where the connector is. I assume it's under the dash > close to the steering column. The module would need to access > these two connections. > > > > 2) With my J-type TR6, the OD wires route to the OD from the > passenger side of the transmission tunnel close to the firewall > (behind the kidney panels). There should be a yellow wire with > in-line bullet connector (for the OD inhibitor switch) along > with a green wire (reverse lights) with bullet connectors. > Might also be a yellow/purple wire, but not sure - > > > > Anybody willing to get their hands a little dirty and check > this out for me? You'd have my undying gratitude! :) > > > > TIA > > > > Dale O > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as johncnorth at gmail.com From johncnorth at gmail.com Wed Jun 10 18:38:27 2009 From: johncnorth at gmail.com (John North) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:38:27 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Help with A-type OD wiring In-Reply-To: <20090610101246.ADB8225B@resin17.mta.everyone.net> References: <20090610101246.ADB8225B@resin17.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: <49f668fe0906101738v7b042c94r9e3daddda40c749d@mail.gmail.com> How do you plan to sell these ? I would be interested in a price for the j-type... John North On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, wrote: > I'm looking for someone that can help me out on getting some > information about TR6 A-type overdrive wiring - preferably > someone who has an earlier TR6 with the original A-type and > wiring. > > A little background: I've designed an overdrive controller (an > easy to use module that locks the OD out after shifting out of > gear) for my TR6 w/ J-type OD, and have been pretty happy with > it. So, I've decided to build a few of these modules and have > all the details worked out for the J-type OD. However, since I > don't have an A-type for reference, I need some information to > get me past the last design hurdle for this. Two questions: > > > > 1) The schematic shows a yellow/green wire connecting the > driver's OD switch to the OD relay on the firewall. Looks like > there is an in-line bullet connector in-between. What I don't > know is where the connector is. I assume it's under the dash > close to the steering column. The module would need to access > these two connections. > > > > 2) With my J-type TR6, the OD wires route to the OD from the > passenger side of the transmission tunnel close to the firewall > (behind the kidney panels). There should be a yellow wire with > in-line bullet connector (for the OD inhibitor switch) along > with a green wire (reverse lights) with bullet connectors. > Might also be a yellow/purple wire, but not sure - > > > > Anybody willing to get their hands a little dirty and check > this out for me? You'd have my undying gratitude! :) > > > > TIA > > > > Dale O > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as johncnorth at gmail.com From sumton at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 10 20:01:00 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:01:00 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Help with A-type OD wiring References: <20090610101246.ADB8225B@resin17.mta.everyone.net> <49f668fe0906101738v7b042c94r9e3daddda40c749d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002701c9ea39$8167d1b0$1215a8c0@ranteer.local> i, too, am interested, but am curious how you re-engage the od? how do you compensate for the fact that the switch is now in the on position? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John North" To: Cc: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [6pack] Help with A-type OD wiring > How do you plan to sell these ? I would be interested in a price for > the j-type... > > John North > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, wrote: >> I'm looking for someone that can help me out on getting some >> information about TR6 A-type overdrive wiring - preferably >> someone who has an earlier TR6 with the original A-type and >> wiring. >> >> A little background: I've designed an overdrive controller (an >> easy to use module that locks the OD out after shifting out of >> gear) for my TR6 w/ J-type OD, and have been pretty happy with >> it. So, I've decided to build a few of these modules and have >> all the details worked out for the J-type OD. However, since I >> don't have an A-type for reference, I need some information to >> get me past the last design hurdle for this. Two questions: >> >> >> >> 1) The schematic shows a yellow/green wire connecting the >> driver's OD switch to the OD relay on the firewall. Looks like >> there is an in-line bullet connector in-between. What I don't >> know is where the connector is. I assume it's under the dash >> close to the steering column. The module would need to access >> these two connections. >> >> >> >> 2) With my J-type TR6, the OD wires route to the OD from the >> passenger side of the transmission tunnel close to the firewall >> (behind the kidney panels). There should be a yellow wire with >> in-line bullet connector (for the OD inhibitor switch) along >> with a green wire (reverse lights) with bullet connectors. >> Might also be a yellow/purple wire, but not sure - >> >> >> >> Anybody willing to get their hands a little dirty and check >> this out for me? You'd have my undying gratitude! :) From osternd at copper.net Thu Jun 11 08:54:08 2009 From: osternd at copper.net (osternd at copper.net) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:54:08 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Help with A-type OD wiring Message-ID: <20090611075408.CCA879A6@resin15.mta.everyone.net> Hi John - For now, I'm going to build up a few, and if I'm happy with them, I may offer them to anyone on the list that might be interested. Not yet sure of price, but parts and supplies are adding up to more than I had originally hoped. Either way, it will be much cheaper (and better!) than what's being offered now. Since the first units will be "prototypes", I'll offer them at a discount. My goal is not to make a lot of money on these, but to offer a quality unit which benefits the Triumph and LBC community (or does that make me sound too much like a politician? :) Dale --- johncnorth at gmail.com wrote: From: John North To: osternd at copper.net Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Help with A-type OD wiring Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:38:27 -0400 How do you plan to sell these ? I would be interested in a price for the j-type... John North On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, wrote: > I'm  looking  for  someone that can help me out on getting some > information  about  TR6  A-type  overdrive  wiring - preferably > someone  who  has  an  earlier TR6 with the original A-type and > wiring. > > A  little background: I've designed an overdrive controller (an > easy  to use module that locks the OD out after shifting out of > gear)  for my TR6 w/ J-type OD, and have been pretty happy with > it.  So,  I've decided to build a few of these modules and have > all  the details worked out for the J-type OD. However, since I > don't  have an A-type for reference, I need some information to > get me past the last design hurdle for this. Two questions: > > > > 1)  The  schematic  shows  a  yellow/green  wire connecting the > driver's  OD switch to the OD relay on the firewall. Looks like > there  is  an in-line bullet connector in-between. What I don't > know  is  where  the connector is. I assume it's under the dash > close  to  the steering column. The module would need to access > these two connections. > > > > 2)  With  my  J-type TR6, the OD wires route to the OD from the > passenger side of the transmission tunnel close to the firewall > (behind  the kidney panels). There should be a yellow wire with > in-line  bullet  connector  (for the OD inhibitor switch) along > with  a  green  wire  (reverse  lights) with bullet connectors. > Might also be a yellow/purple wire, but not sure - > > > > Anybody  willing  to  get  their hands a little dirty and check > this out for me? You'd have my undying gratitude! :) > > > > TIA > > > > Dale O > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as johncnorth at gmail.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Thu Jun 11 09:01:24 2009 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Help with A-type OD wiring In-Reply-To: <20090611075408.CCA879A6@resin15.mta.everyone.net> References: <20090611075408.CCA879A6@resin15.mta.everyone.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 osternd at copper.net wrote: > Hi John - [stuff deleted] > I'll offer them at a discount. My goal is not to make a lot of money on > these, but to offer a quality unit which benefits the Triumph and LBC > community (or does that make me sound too much like a politician? :) Only if you use the term "transparency" :-) > Dale rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mailkendall at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 12 17:56:24 2009 From: mailkendall at sbcglobal.net (Kendall Larsen) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] 1970 tuning questions Message-ID: <411915.24745.qm@web82602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi List, I put a used 1970 engine in my 1974 TR6 not too long ago. I installed it, carbs and all, with my 1974 exhaust, and it runs pretty well with no adjustments. Recently I got around to trying out my wideband O2 sensor with it and it shows that it is running lean. Due to a miscalculation of the O2 sensor size and the proximity I can only get readings from the rear carb since I'm still using the 1974 exhaust. The AFR ranges between 14.1 (0.96) -16.8 (1.14) Tending towards 16 lots more often than 14. Pulling the choke didn't seem to do too much to richen it while cruising. What AFR should I be shooting for as far as just casual driving around is concerned? Is this so lean that I should be worried about burning a valve? Any other problems beyond generating excessive NOx? I tried to use my needle adjuster tool and discovered that the 1970 carbs don't appear to have adjustable needles. Is the adjustment handled by moving the jet from the bottom or is it more effective to swap needles? It occasionally starves for fuel when cornering to the left, like when making a left turn from a light and accelerating. Is this most likely a float height problem? As far as I know the engine internals are all stock, with ~100k miles, only mods are an aluminum flywheel, and electric fan. Thanks, Kendall Camarillo, CA From tr6taylor at webtv.net Sat Jun 13 00:30:46 2009 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:30:46 GMT Subject: [6pack] 1970 tuning questions Message-ID: Kendall---The questions you posed would take more space to answer than this list would allow, so I'll give you an outline. Write back to me off list if you like, for the details. Meanwhile... The a/f ratio you're looking for is between 15 to 1 and 13 to 1. 14.7:1 the ideal. If you have carbs with non-adjustable needles, you may have the kind that can be adjusted by raising, or in your case lowering the jet(s). Be sure there is no un-metered air (leaks)entering the intake manifold, which would lean out the mixture. Consider connecting an H-Pipe above and between the two down-pipes to get some reading from the front carb. Be sure the 02 sensor gets hot enough to get a true reading. Otherwise it will show leaner than it really is. The fuel pickup tube (jets) being in the center of the float bowls shouldn't necessarily starve out when making turns. In any case, try setting the floats at the highest of the ranges given in the ZS manual. You probably won't burn a valve unless you drive a good deal of the time with an a/f mix with the gauge showing readings of 18:1, or "off the scale" lean. I've had 02 sensor and a/f monitor in and running for about 10 years now. I really enjoy it's reporting! Dick From mailkendall at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 13 02:27:02 2009 From: mailkendall at sbcglobal.net (Kendall Larsen) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] 1970 tuning questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <381193.97678.qm@web82603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Dick, Good to hear from you! I recently moved so that now I live an hour northwest of you off the 101 instead of the hour south that I was before. I was kind of looking for the outline answer that you gave. I can look more in depth for the long answers knowing that I'm on the right track now! I will check for leaks, try and figure out how to check the float height since I've never done that before and see where that gets me. Right now the TR is my 'reliable car' while I figure out how I'm supposed to change some inaccessible and leaking coolant hoses on an Audi A4 that has 214k miles on it... Thanks for the reply, Kendall ________________________________ From: Sally or Dick Taylor To: Kendall Larsen ; 6pack List <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:30:46 PM Subject: Re: [6pack] 1970 tuning questions Kendall---The questions you posed would take more space to answer than this list would allow, so I'll give you an outline. Write back to me off list if you like, for the details. Meanwhile... The a/f ratio you're looking for is between 15 to 1 and 13 to 1. 14.7:1 the ideal. If you have carbs with non-adjustable needles, you may have the kind that can be adjusted by raising, or in your case lowering the jet(s). Be sure there is no un-metered air (leaks)entering the intake manifold, which would lean out the mixture. Consider connecting an H-Pipe above and between the two down-pipes to get some reading from the front carb. Be sure the 02 sensor gets hot enough to get a true reading. Otherwise it will show leaner than it really is. The fuel pickup tube (jets) being in the center of the float bowls shouldn't necessarily starve out when making turns. In any case, try setting the floats at the highest of the ranges given in the ZS manual. You probably won't burn a valve unless you drive a good deal of the time with an a/f mix with the gauge showing readings of 18:1, or "off the scale" lean. I've had 02 sensor and a/f monitor in and running for about 10 years now. I really enjoy it's reporting! Dick From yellowtr at adelphia.net Sat Jun 13 11:28:35 2009 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:28:35 -0400 Subject: [6pack] 72 pistons Message-ID: <200906131328.35752.yellowtr@adelphia.net> I was just removing the rings and cleaning the pistons for my rebuild when I noticed on the inside of the pistons that there was an A/E on the casting. >From what I remember doesn't that signify AE Hepolite? Could these be the stock pistons? They have the standard markings on the top a "B" + the indented arrow to show which way to install. Again, The 6 is totally new to this 3 and 4 owner! Just a bit curious. Thanks, Bob From TRDOCTOR at aol.com Sat Jun 13 13:03:05 2009 From: TRDOCTOR at aol.com (TRDOCTOR at aol.com) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:03:05 EDT Subject: [6pack] No Mail Message-ID: All, It has bee a couple of weeks since I received anything from either the Triumph list or the 6-Pack list. Anyone else having the same issues? I am on AOL. TIA Sam Clark **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62) From rpeglow at optonline.net Sat Jun 13 18:52:19 2009 From: rpeglow at optonline.net (Bob) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:52:19 -0700 Subject: [6pack] No Mail References: Message-ID: <000801c9ec8a$6001c320$c6f37b45@gpcorporate.com> I received your post. There have been complaints from AOL users. You should be getting more responses from those in the know on the list. Regards, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:03 PM Subject: [6pack] No Mail > All, > It has bee a couple of weeks since I received anything from either the > Triumph list or the 6-Pack list. Anyone else having the same issues? I am on > AOL. > TIA > > Sam Clark > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377049x1201454365/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= > JunestepsfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as rpeglow at optonline.net > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) > Database version: 6.12600 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12600 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From bdischer.lists at blakedischer.com Sun Jun 14 06:05:03 2009 From: bdischer.lists at blakedischer.com (Blake J. Discher) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:05:03 -0400 Subject: [6pack] No Mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C88B4A0-713F-4D04-B1B9-65194E5C6F65@blakedischer.com> On Jun 13, 2009, at 3:03 PM, TRDOCTOR at aol.com wrote: > It has bee a couple of weeks since I received anything from either > the Triumph list or the 6-Pack list. Anyone else having the same > issues? I am on AOL. Hi Sam, I have received quite a few questions about this in my personal email since VTR supports the team.net lists. I have placed a post on the VTR Triumph Forum in which I speculate about what may be happening with regards to AOL. I've done a bit of research and have posted what I believe to be the cause and suggest a workaround that will ensure you continue to receive team.net postings. A direct link to the post: http://tiny.cc/FyS1a . The VTR Triumph Forum is free to all, non-members of VTR included. Cheers, Blake J. Discher, President VINTAGE TRIUMPH REGISTER From im_sloane at hotmail.com Sun Jun 14 15:16:14 2009 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:16:14 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Alternator puzzle Message-ID: Hey team, We have a problem with my brother's electrical system. It's a 73 TR6. His Lucas alternator was only a couple years old and it died. Well, sort of died. It would charge enough to get by but when listening to the radio and running the lights at the same time the volts would drop to zero. He got a Bosch last week and it was doing fine, charging 13.5 volts. Now it's dead too. It could be a coincicence that he just got a bad one, but I'm thinking something strange is going on in the wires somewhere. Anybody been there-done that? What say ye? Sloane :) 69-Six _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From TR250Driver at aol.com Sun Jun 14 16:20:43 2009 From: TR250Driver at aol.com (TR250Driver at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:20:43 EDT Subject: [6pack] Test Message-ID: Just checking status. Please delete. Darrell **************Choose the home loan that saves you the most $$$. Agents available at ditech.com (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221374924x1201371434/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fclk.atdmt.com%2FDEG%2Fgo%2F153724534%2Fdirect%2F0 1%2F) From trdoctor at aol.com Sun Jun 14 19:38:45 2009 From: trdoctor at aol.com (trdoctor at aol.com) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:38:45 -0400 Subject: [6pack] [TR] No Mail In-Reply-To: <200906141133.5e94a351830c8@rly-dg08.mx.aol.com> References: <2C88B4A0-713F-4D04-B1B9-65194E5C6F65@blakedischer.com> <200906141133.5e94a351830c8@rly-dg08.mx.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CBBB7127FF9CD4-CCC-2CAB@webmail-da13.sysops.aol.com> Thanks.? I appreciate the feedback.? Hopefully this will be resolved soon. Sam and Carol Clark -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: Blake J. Discher ; TRDOCTOR at aol.com; Triumph List ; 6 Digest <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2009 10:31 am Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] No Mail Received a message from Mark Bradakis on another list indicating that he believes that the "AOL issue" has been resolved. The issue was that AOL uses reverse DNS to verify the e-mail sender, and Mark's new ISP didn't set up reverse DNS properly. That has been rectified.? ? - Tony Drews? ? At 07:05 AM 6/14/2009, Blake J. Discher wrote:? >On Jun 13, 2009, at 3:03 PM, TRDOCTOR at aol.com wrote:? >>It has bee a couple of weeks since I received anything from either? >>the Triumph list or the 6-Pack list. Anyone else having the same? >>issues? I am on AOL.? >? >? >Hi Sam,? >? >I have received quite a few questions about this in my personal email? >since VTR supports the team.net lists. I have placed a post on the? >VTR Triumph Forum in which I speculate about what may be happening? >with regards to AOL. I've done a bit of research and have posted what? >I believe to be the cause and suggest a workaround that will ensure? >you continue to receive team.net postings.? >? >A direct link to the post: http://tiny.cc/FyS1a . The VTR Triumph? >Forum is free to all, non-members of VTR included.? >? >Cheers,? >Blake J. Discher, President? >VINTAGE TRIUMPH REGISTER? ? From im_sloane at hotmail.com Sun Jun 14 21:18:13 2009 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:18:13 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Alternator puzzle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh, one possible clue to this puzzle. As I mentioned the Lucas alternator would only drop to zero with the headlights on. We put a cheap circuit breaker, like from Advance Auto Parts, on the wire between the headlight switch and the battery a year ago. He had a short in the headlight switch that burned that wire right out of the wiring harness. It seemed that nothing else in the wires was harmed, so we just replaced the single fried wire and decided to put in the circuit breaker. Again with the Bosch, it died when the headlights were on. I'm thinking either the circuit breaker is somehow causing it or there's a hidden problem with the wires. thanks in advance if anyone has had anything similar occur. Sloane :) > We have a problem with my brother's electrical system. It's a 73 TR6. His > Lucas alternator was only a couple years old and it died. Well, sort of died. > It would charge enough to get by but when listening to the radio and running > the lights at the same time the volts would drop to zero. He got a Bosch last > week and it was doing fine, charging 13.5 volts. Now it's dead too. It could > be a coincidence that he just got a bad one, but I'm thinking something > strange is going on in the wires somewhere. Anybody been there-done that? _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From rccpl1 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 15 11:51:11 2009 From: rccpl1 at yahoo.com (john doe) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] bad idle Message-ID: <141684.5793.qm@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> have a 76 tr6 disconnected the egr valve and the air pump the car just refuses to idle had the dist rebuilt every time i connect the dist to the carb it just wants to die out when i rev it up it runs then wants to die out could it be the carbs or a vaccume leak From tr6parts at charter.net Mon Jun 15 15:51:31 2009 From: tr6parts at charter.net (Al Salvatore) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:51:31 -0400 Subject: [6pack] bad idle References: <141684.5793.qm@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8AC38B1326EC4AF5B7273D04C59D413B@Alan> Do you have points or electronic iginition? We had similar problem on a motor we were trying to start. Turned out the points were sticking; put in petronix and everything was fine. Al Salvatore ----- Original Message ----- From: "john doe" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:51 PM Subject: [6pack] bad idle > have a 76 tr6 disconnected the egr valve and the air pump the car just > refuses to idle had the dist rebuilt every time i connect the dist to the > carb it just wants to die out when i rev it up it runs then wants to die > out could it be the carbs or a vaccume leak > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as tr6parts at charter.net From vance.navarrette at intel.com Mon Jun 15 17:04:35 2009 From: vance.navarrette at intel.com (Navarrette, Vance) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:04:35 -0700 Subject: [6pack] bad idle In-Reply-To: <141684.5793.qm@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <141684.5793.qm@web30403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4158487B9DEE0647BA23911D1C22795767E6E83C@orsmsx501.amr.corp.intel.com> John: Sounds like your base timing is wrong. The vacuum connection to the distributor is a vacuum retard. When you hook the dizzy up to an active vacuum port, the timing is retarded by 14 degrees. I am guessing that your timing is set at 4ATDC. When you hook up the dizzy, the vacuum retard engages and gives you 18ATDC, which will seriously slow the engine, and perhaps make it stall. The Bentley manual is confusing on this point, and it is easy to get it wrong (ask me how I know). Set your timing at 10BTDC with the dizzy vacuum disconnected, THEN hook the dizzy up. I am betting that your car will run fine then. Your dizzy has been rebuilt, and that means that the vacuum retard was probably replaced. On most cars the vacuum capsule perishes due to age, rendering it inoperative. Since yours has been rebuilt, it is now working properly, and if the base timing is wrong, the retard function pushes the timing waaaay out of whack when it gets connected. Vance Vance Navarrette Cogito Ergo Zoom I think, therefore I go fast -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of john doe Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:51 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] bad idle have a 76 tr6 disconnected the egr valve and the air pump the car just refuses to idle had the dist rebuilt every time i connect the dist to the carb it just wants to die out when i rev it up it runs then wants to die out could it be the carbs or a vaccume leak From trguy at cfl.rr.com Mon Jun 15 17:53:13 2009 From: trguy at cfl.rr.com (James Henningsen) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:53:13 -0400 Subject: [6pack] OD Tranny Seal Solution Message-ID: <002201c9ee14$7272e9e0$5758bda0$@rr.com> Team: Just a follow-up to an earlier thread regarding what sealant to use on the jtype OD pump rectangular pan that covers the metal screen. I used Permatex ultra gray silicon sealant and it works great - no leaks and I am using Red Line MT-90 fluid! Didn't have any blue hylomar available and is tough to find. The following web site does have it for sale, but its pricey. http://www.hylomar-usa.com/_resources/_html/order.html Cheers, Jim Henningsen Maitland, FL 75 TR6 CF35914U From mailkendall at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 15 21:17:24 2009 From: mailkendall at sbcglobal.net (Kendall Larsen) Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] 1970 tuning questions In-Reply-To: <4158487B9DEE0647BA23911D1C22795767DF8CD5@orsmsx501.amr.corp.intel.com> References: <411915.24745.qm@web82602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4158487B9DEE0647BA23911D1C22795767DF8CD5@orsmsx501.amr.corp.intel.com> Message-ID: <841208.32929.qm@web82606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Vance, Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely check the diaphragms and dash-pot oil! If I'm still looking for a solution after checking for leaks, torn diaphragms, dash-pot oil, and float height -- then maybe i'll try putting the dash-pots from my 1974 carbs in. I think you're right about it not having anything to do with the turning. Kendalll ________________________________ From: "Navarrette, Vance" To: Kendall Larsen Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:14:54 AM Subject: RE: [6pack] 1970 tuning questions Kendall: Earlier carbs are not adjustable. You may want to convert to the adjustable needles, or swap in the later carbs. You can set the height of the jet on earlier Zeniths by pressing the jet in further, but this is a real hassle. Heck, you might just try swapping the slides from the earlier carbs. I have not tried this, but that would be simplest and make the conversion to adjustable needles a snap. Your "fuel starvation" issue sounds more like a torn diaphragm to me. I suppose if your float height was off far enough, you might see this problem, but I would expect it to be occurring in both directions as the jet is in the middle of the float bowl. When inspecting the diaphragms, stretch them gently, as you can have a pinhole or a tear that is not evident when the diaphragm is relaxed. You also should check your dashpot oil. If it is low you can get a "fuel starvation" symptom as well. Vance Vance Navarrette Cogito Ergo Zoom I think, therefore I go fast -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kendall Larsen Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 4:56 PM To: 6pack List Subject: [6pack] 1970 tuning questions Hi List, It occasionally starves for fuel when cornering to the left, like when making a left turn from a light and accelerating. Is this most likely a float height problem? Thanks, Kendall Camarillo, CA From mhooper at digiscreen.ca Tue Jun 16 09:14:06 2009 From: mhooper at digiscreen.ca (Mark Hooper) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:14:06 -0400 Subject: [6pack] [TR] No Mail In-Reply-To: <20090614153310.E1CB9187664@autox.team.net> Message-ID: AOL was timing out eh? ;^) Mark -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Drews Sent: June 14, 2009 11:31 AM To: Blake J. Discher; TRDOCTOR at aol.com; Triumph List; 6 Digest Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] No Mail Received a message from Mark Bradakis on another list indicating that he believes that the "AOL issue" has been resolved. The issue was that AOL uses reverse DNS to verify the e-mail sender, and Mark's new ISP didn't set up reverse DNS properly. That has been rectified. - Tony Drews At 07:05 AM 6/14/2009, Blake J. Discher wrote: >On Jun 13, 2009, at 3:03 PM, TRDOCTOR at aol.com wrote: >>It has bee a couple of weeks since I received anything from either >>the Triumph list or the 6-Pack list. Anyone else having the same >>issues? I am on AOL. > > >Hi Sam, > >I have received quite a few questions about this in my personal email >since VTR supports the team.net lists. I have placed a post on the >VTR Triumph Forum in which I speculate about what may be happening >with regards to AOL. I've done a bit of research and have posted what >I believe to be the cause and suggest a workaround that will ensure >you continue to receive team.net postings. > >A direct link to the post: http://tiny.cc/FyS1a . The VTR Triumph >Forum is free to all, non-members of VTR included. > >Cheers, >Blake J. Discher, President >VINTAGE TRIUMPH REGISTER From davidaschenck at comcast.net Tue Jun 16 18:21:53 2009 From: davidaschenck at comcast.net (David A. Schenck) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:21:53 -0400 Subject: [6pack] TR250 Frame Available Message-ID: <20090617002236.159F61879D2@autox.team.net> List, I have a TR250 frame that I need to get rid of. It has a little bit of damage to the drivers front. I assume it is repairable. I have pictures that I can send to anyone interested. I really need to get this thing out of my driveway. Please someone come and get it before I have to cut it up and take it to the scrap yard. Thanks, Dave Towson, MD From robertrudolphi at yahoo.com Wed Jun 17 13:10:30 2009 From: robertrudolphi at yahoo.com (robert rudolphi) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Looking for the best place to buy Panasports for my TR6 In-Reply-To: <8661DD8A3A87469B86339D7F1F28C046@JimofficePC> References: <8661DD8A3A87469B86339D7F1F28C046@JimofficePC> Message-ID: <479214.22495.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I am getting close to buying Panasport wheels for my TR6 and was wondering where people have purchased them. I know the big 3 have them but them seem really expensive. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.I am located in Maryland. Thank you, Robert Rudolphi 76TR6 From emanteno at gmail.com Wed Jun 17 13:15:18 2009 From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:15:18 -0500 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Looking for the best place to buy Panasports for my TR6 In-Reply-To: <479214.22495.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <8661DD8A3A87469B86339D7F1F28C046@JimofficePC> <479214.22495.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <354a1780906171215s2b6e79aagf04c810aa92b5924@mail.gmail.com> When I bought mine, the best deal came from Paul Spruell Alfa. Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:10 PM, robert rudolphi wrote: > I am getting close to buying Panasport wheels for my TR6 and was > wondering where people have purchased them. I know the big 3 have them but > them seem really expensive. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.I > am > located in Maryland. > > Thank you, > > Robert Rudolphi > 76TR6 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register > http://www.vtr.org > > > Triumphs at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs > > You are subscribed as emanteno at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From triosan at gmail.com Wed Jun 17 13:38:52 2009 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:38:52 -0700 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Looking for the best place to buy Panasports for my TR6 In-Reply-To: <354a1780906171215s2b6e79aagf04c810aa92b5924@mail.gmail.com> References: <8661DD8A3A87469B86339D7F1F28C046@JimofficePC> <479214.22495.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <354a1780906171215s2b6e79aagf04c810aa92b5924@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8cbd782d0906171238n1df646d7s7c11d0fd167f5163@mail.gmail.com> got mine at Spruel also -- but look into Koenig Rewinds -- liked those much better. bought them off a guy who sells them all the time on e-bay. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Irv Korey wrote: > When I bought mine, the best deal came from Paul Spruell Alfa. > > Irv Korey > 74 TR6 CF22767U > Highland Park, IL > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:10 PM, robert rudolphi > wrote: > >> I am getting close to buying Panasport wheels for my TR6 and was >> wondering where people have purchased them. I know the big 3 have them but >> them seem really expensive. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.I >> am >> located in Maryland. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Robert Rudolphi >> 76TR6 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register >> http://www.vtr.org >> >> >> Triumphs at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs >> >> You are subscribed as emanteno at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > -- Chuck Arnold From emanteno at gmail.com Wed Jun 17 13:40:55 2009 From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey) Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:40:55 -0500 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Looking for the best place to buy Panasports for my TR6 In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0906171238n1df646d7s7c11d0fd167f5163@mail.gmail.com> References: <8661DD8A3A87469B86339D7F1F28C046@JimofficePC> <479214.22495.qm@web56202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <354a1780906171215s2b6e79aagf04c810aa92b5924@mail.gmail.com> <8cbd782d0906171238n1df646d7s7c11d0fd167f5163@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <354a1780906171240nb9693dcta5093be959942079@mail.gmail.com> The Konig Rewinds ARE nice, and priced much better than the Panasports. Just got a set last year for my TR6 in 16x7. Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Chuck Arnold wrote: > got mine at Spruel also -- but look into Koenig Rewinds -- liked those > much better. bought them off a guy who sells them all the time on > e-bay. > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Irv Korey wrote: > > When I bought mine, the best deal came from Paul Spruell Alfa. > > > > Irv Korey > > 74 TR6 CF22767U > > Highland Park, IL > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:10 PM, robert rudolphi > > wrote: > > > >> I am getting close to buying Panasport wheels for my TR6 and was > >> wondering where people have purchased them. I know the big 3 have them > but > >> them seem really expensive. Any suggestions would be greatly > appreciated.I > >> am > >> located in Maryland. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> Robert Rudolphi > >> 76TR6 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register > >> http://www.vtr.org > >> > >> > >> Triumphs at autox.team.net > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs > >> > >> You are subscribed as emanteno at gmail.com > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > 6pack at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > > > > > > -- > Chuck Arnold From patton at suscom-maine.net Thu Jun 18 23:13:55 2009 From: patton at suscom-maine.net (Rick Patton) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:13:55 -0400 Subject: [6pack] [TR] Help with the list please In-Reply-To: <20090619042248152.BBUF19511@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> References: <20090619042248152.BBUF19511@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> Message-ID: <4A3B1E93.6040807@suscom-maine.net> Hi, Just to offer a little different slant, my email over the past month dropped to a trickle and I'm not an AOL user. For email I use Mozilla Thunderbird and about a moth ago there was a new version update. Evidently the update included an improved spam filter that diverted this list and many others to the Junk folder without any notice. So I'm thinking that the List has temporarily lost it's AOL contributors cutting the number of messages way back but that wasn't that case. If you are using Thunderbird take a look in your Junk folder. Rick Patton pattonmachine.com 75 TR6sci 74 TVR 2500M Randall wrote: >> I feel as though I am shouting out into the darkness, not knowing if >> anyone can hear me. >> > > Our long-suffering listmeister has told us twice now that the AOL problem is > resolved. Apparently there are still some lingering pockets of resistance. > We're all still here, but you are not alone in still not receiving list > traffic. I did check that you are subscribed (which was obviously the case > since we saw your post), and that delivery does not show as disabled. > > >> I have tried to resubscribe with >> a new domain but the Majordomo lists no longer show the Triumph list as >> available to me. >> > > That is because the Triumphs list was moved away from Majordomo several > years ago, and is now managed by Mailman. Try going to the web page at > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs > and see if that won't work for you. There is still a way to do it by email, > but I forget how offhand. > > Randall > _______________________________________________ From lang at isis.mit.edu Fri Jun 19 08:22:14 2009 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] [TR] Help with the list please In-Reply-To: <4A3B1E93.6040807@suscom-maine.net> References: <20090619042248152.BBUF19511@cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com> <4A3B1E93.6040807@suscom-maine.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 19 Jun 2009, Rick Patton wrote: [stuff deleted] > cutting the number of messages way back but that wasn't that case. If > you are using Thunderbird take a look in your Junk folder. This isn't necessarily just a Thunderbird thing... if you use ANY filtering, you need to check the junk folder from time to time for false positives. Then you have to adjust your filter settings. I do a lot of helpdesk stuff for e-mail problems. e-mail filters can be a really big problem when set up wrong!! But a LOT of the mail lists out there are switching to forums to fix the overhead of maintaining e-mail lists and it's not just because of AOL. For example, it's not unusual for my employer's domain to get "black listed", so folks here spend a rediculous amount of time working with AOL and Comcast and other ISPs who do some pretty weird stuff to "stop spam". None of it is effective, mind you. Afterall, some counts indicate 90% of e-mail is SPAM. Go figure. > Rick Patton > pattonmachine.com > 75 TR6sci > 74 TVR 2500M regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sumton at sbcglobal.net Fri Jun 19 22:01:05 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:01:05 -0500 Subject: [6pack] gas gage Message-ID: <000601c9f15b$cfaa9230$250110ac@ranteer.local> hi folks. i'm on a trip, about 5 hours from home. have tools (will travel?) 72 triumph tr6 with lots of goodparts the gas gage goes left when i turn the car off, and then goes to 1/4 when i turn the car on. period. irrespective of how much gas is in the tank. just all of a sudden as far as i can tell. what do i look for? where do i start trouble shooting? thanks! From apackard68 at att.net Sat Jun 20 01:34:06 2009 From: apackard68 at att.net (Andrew Packard) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:34:06 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Catalog fame for the TR250 Message-ID: <52DDA5C2-7F5C-497C-BC9C-C43978ADB287@att.net> Hey everyone: Follow the link below to the Summer 2009 catalog for Nicole Miller cosmetics (Melaleuca). If you look at pages 20 and 36 you'll see the familiar car shape of my TR250 (looking prettier than the models, if may say so). Just thought I would share now that the catalog has come out. Andy CD6746L HVDA http://melaleuca.httpsvc.vitalstreamcdn.com/melaleuca_vitalstream_com/Catalogs/NMSU09U.pdf From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Sat Jun 20 06:29:12 2009 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:29:12 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Catalog fame for the TR250 In-Reply-To: <52DDA5C2-7F5C-497C-BC9C-C43978ADB287@att.net> References: <52DDA5C2-7F5C-497C-BC9C-C43978ADB287@att.net> Message-ID: Very cool but it was on pages 11 and 19 for my download of the .pdf Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Packard Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:34 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net; TTSCC at yahoogroups.com Subject: [6pack] Catalog fame for the TR250 Hey everyone: Follow the link below to the Summer 2009 catalog for Nicole Miller cosmetics (Melaleuca). If you look at pages 20 and 36 you'll see the familiar car shape of my TR250 (looking prettier than the models, if may say so). Just thought I would share now that the catalog has come out. Andy CD6746L HVDA http://melaleuca.httpsvc.vitalstreamcdn.com/melaleuca_vitalstream_com/Catalo gs/NMSU09U.pdf 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From lang at isis.mit.edu Sat Jun 20 07:33:15 2009 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] gas gage In-Reply-To: <000601c9f15b$cfaa9230$250110ac@ranteer.local> References: <000601c9f15b$cfaa9230$250110ac@ranteer.local> Message-ID: Does your temp gauge read correctly? If not, then your voltage stabiliser is bad and needs to be replaced. If temp is OK, then your problem is with the gas level sending unit. Simple fix, but you pretty much have to remove the fuel tank to get the old one out. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From yellowtr at adelphia.net Sat Jun 20 08:05:49 2009 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:05:49 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Catalog fame for the TR250 In-Reply-To: <52DDA5C2-7F5C-497C-BC9C-C43978ADB287@att.net> References: <52DDA5C2-7F5C-497C-BC9C-C43978ADB287@att.net> Message-ID: <200906201005.50158.yellowtr@adelphia.net> On Saturday 20 June 2009 03:34:06 am Andrew Packard wrote: > Hey everyone: > Follow the link below to the Summer 2009 catalog for Nicole Miller > cosmetics (Melaleuca). If you look at pages 20 and 36 you'll see the > familiar car shape of my TR250 (looking prettier than the models, if > may say so). Just thought I would share now that the catalog has come > out. > > Andy > CD6746L HVDA > Andy, Nice pics! How did you go about getting the agency to use your car? I would like to volunteer my TR4 for the next shoot! It has experience in front of a camera, it has been used in two weddings so far and will be driving daughter # 3 to her wedding this August! It is white and the perfect car for a summer wedding. http://www.triumphowners.com/1330 Bob From stan.foster at hp.com Sat Jun 20 08:52:57 2009 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan (HP IT)) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:52:57 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Catalog fame for the TR250 In-Reply-To: <52DDA5C2-7F5C-497C-BC9C-C43978ADB287@att.net> References: <52DDA5C2-7F5C-497C-BC9C-C43978ADB287@att.net> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF72B1D35B627F@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Very cool Andy, the curves on that Michelotti body look right at home.. What is the story behind this ? Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Packard Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:34 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net; TTSCC at yahoogroups.com Subject: [6pack] Catalog fame for the TR250 Hey everyone: Follow the link below to the Summer 2009 catalog for Nicole Miller cosmetics (Melaleuca). If you look at pages 20 and 36 you'll see the familiar car shape of my TR250 (looking prettier than the models, if may say so). Just thought I would share now that the catalog has come out. Andy CD6746L HVDA http://melaleuca.httpsvc.vitalstreamcdn.com/melaleuca_vitalstream_com/Catalog s/NMSU09U.pdf From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 20 09:22:37 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:22:37 -0500 Subject: [6pack] [TR] gas gage References: <4A3C2ADE.17298.2B3CC96@localhost> Message-ID: <001b01c9f1ba$f31c77b0$250110ac@ranteer.local> thanks for all your responses! the temp gage appears to work fine, so i guess its a sending unit problem. which means i need to pull the tank. which is probably more than i want to do here at the hotel and all in all, of the four gages (temp, ammeter, oil pressures, and gas gage), that's probably the least valuable when driving the car. unfortunately, on this same trip, somewhat before the gage, the speedo/odometer also quit working. i checked the connection at the speedo, and its ok. i plan to disconnect it and see if the cable moves today. so, as luck would have it, i have neither odometer nor gas gage. makes life fun!!!!! but i do have a flashlight and a newly acquired "dip stick" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Muller" To: ; "'6-Pack'" <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [TR] gas gage > On 19 Jun 2009 at 23:01, oliver wrote: > >> the gas gage goes left when i turn the car off, and then goes to 1/4 when >> i >> turn the car on. period. irrespective of how much gas is in the tank. >> just >> all of a sudden as far as i can tell. >> >> what do i look for? where do i start trouble shooting? > > Well, gas goes through the carburettor, right? And 90% of all > carburettor problems are electrical. So your problem is electrical. > Really. Maybe a short or a break in the line to the fuel sender, > though it hard to imagine it being consistent like that. Maybe poor > connections? Could be a busted sender, most likely. > > If you pull the wire off the sender does it make any difference in > the gauge reading? > > -- From apackard68 at att.net Sat Jun 20 10:28:45 2009 From: apackard68 at att.net (Andrew Packard) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:28:45 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Catalog fame for the TR250 In-Reply-To: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF72B1D35B627F@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <52DDA5C2-7F5C-497C-BC9C-C43978ADB287@att.net> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF72B1D35B627F@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: Back in the winter here in Northern California, a production company from Utah contacted our local club, Triumph Travelers, looking for a Triumph, specifically a TR4 or Spitfire, for a photo shoot. I responded with a couple pictures, they asked some questions about which wheels I could use and does my backlight come off and they agreed to use my car. I was added to their insurance policy, they sent me $500 on the Thursday before the Monday shoot and I was committed at that time. The shoot location was in Carmel Valley, CA (inland from Carmel-by-the-Sea where Clint Eastwood was mayor) at a country estate. A club friend came along to see the production and help with the car. The shoot day was a light to medium steady rain all day. Here's a link to my behind the scene pics. http://www.flickr.com/photos/adpackard/sets/72157619913582823/ We took two scenes worth of shots and one pic was chosen from each scene. They provided lunch and we were out of there by 1:00. I've listed my car on a movie/tv site but no response from that source. When I get the hard copies of the catalog, I'll have something nice to put on the car wall in my home office. Andy On Jun 20, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Foster, Stan (HP IT) wrote: > Very cool Andy, the curves on that Michelotti body look right at > home.. > > What is the story behind this ? > > Stan > > -----Original Message----- > From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net > ] On Behalf Of Andrew Packard > Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 3:34 AM > To: 6pack at autox.team.net; TTSCC at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [6pack] Catalog fame for the TR250 > > Hey everyone: > Follow the link below to the Summer 2009 catalog for Nicole Miller > cosmetics (Melaleuca). If you look at pages 20 and 36 you'll see the > familiar car shape of my TR250 (looking prettier than the models, if > may say so). Just thought I would share now that the catalog has come > out. > > Andy > CD6746L HVDA > > http://melaleuca.httpsvc.vitalstreamcdn.com/melaleuca_vitalstream_com/Catalogs/NMSU09U.pdf From StagByTriumph at tscusa.org Sat Jun 20 15:58:51 2009 From: StagByTriumph at tscusa.org (Glenn A. Merrell) Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:58:51 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Triumph Trans America 2009 Charity Drive kickoff! Message-ID: <4A3D5B9B.5080107@tscusa.org> It's TIME for the Triumph Trans America 2009 Charity Drive kickoff! Hello All, The TTA drive kicks off this coming Saturday 27 June 2009 at GrassRoots Motorsports offices in Holly Hill Florida, 9-11 am. Check for directions at [classicmotorsports.net ] I will be there to make sure Joe Pawlak and the STTAG transport crew lets go of the keys ... Also, keep up-to-date on the destinations and progress for the drive on the TTA web site [triumphtransamerica.org.uk ] or sign up for the email list at [triumphtransamerica.org.uk ] for daily updates. I'll be setting up a Twitter link soon so you can get on the spot updates from folks along the route. Look for notices for video links on You-Tube. If you take a video of John and the STTAG in your local area, please upload the video and or photo shoot to You-Tube, and title the video with "TTA 2009 Charity Drive" followed by your town/City/club name & Date. Something like - "TTA 2009 Charity Drive - Climbs Pikes Peak w/ Colorado Northern British Car Club 22 Aug 2009" Remember to add a video of each hand off between your clubs with your club banners displayed! (if anyone on the Triumph list could let me know they are seeing this, I would appreciate your response. Thanks! Cheers! Glenn Merrell TTA North American Coordinator From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 22 17:39:24 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:39:24 -0500 Subject: [6pack] speedo failure Message-ID: <000e01c9f392$add40d60$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> has anyone else experienced a speedo failure after installing a new cable from moss? or was i just unlucky??? From stan.foster at hp.com Mon Jun 22 18:00:54 2009 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan (HP IT)) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:00:54 +0000 Subject: [6pack] speedo failure In-Reply-To: <000e01c9f392$add40d60$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> References: <000e01c9f392$add40d60$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF72B1D35B64F6@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> We have seen numerous reports of issues with new speedo cables, a typical complaint is that the end that inserts into the tranny gear is too short and fails to engage. I think I have seen similar complaints about the speedo end so you are right to suspect the cable. Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:39 PM To: '6-Pack'; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] speedo failure has anyone else experienced a speedo failure after installing a new cable from moss? or was i just unlucky??? From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Mon Jun 22 20:43:19 2009 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:43:19 -0400 Subject: [6pack] speedo failure In-Reply-To: <000e01c9f392$add40d60$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> References: <000e01c9f392$add40d60$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <72A95E76C65F49D48C35519A6EFEEFFA@BOBSNEWPC> Oliver.......... I can tell you that when I sent my speedo out to West Valley for a rebuild/calibration, the first thing Morris asked me to do was to measure the tip of the speedo cable. If it wasn't + - "X" inches he wouldn't guarantee the rebuild. If the tip is too long it can damage the speedo/tach. Mine was 1/8" too long so he rebuilt the cable for $25. Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:39 PM To: '6-Pack'; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] speedo failure has anyone else experienced a speedo failure after installing a new cable from moss? or was i just unlucky??? 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 22 21:23:08 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:23:08 -0500 Subject: [6pack] heat into passenger footwell Message-ID: <001201c9f3b2$082d6210$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> hi, all. i've got the valve turned off at the engine, but heat still comes into the passenger footwell. if you take a notebook and place it up against the tunnel/kidney area, it comes out quite hot. any thoughts on how to stop this? the tranny tunnel is insulated; it seems like its coming from above the tunnel. is there some kind of heating system there that maybe is out of whack? From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 22 21:26:11 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:26:11 -0500 Subject: [6pack] cable woes update Message-ID: <002901c9f3b2$cb4cdc30$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> i just ran the car while holding the speedo end of the cable in my hand. no movement whatsoever. guess its farther upstream! From tr6taylor at webtv.net Mon Jun 22 22:33:26 2009 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:33:26 GMT Subject: [6pack] heat into passenger footwell Message-ID: Oliver---Feel the inlet heater hose close to where it leaves the shutoff valve, to be sure that the valve is working as it should. Do this check with the engine up to operating temp, and with the hood up long enough to rid the hose of underhood heat sink. If still in doubt, pinch off this hose with a pair of long nose ViseGrips. Nor should there be enough radiant heat from the tranny to be felt thru the tranny cover. Dick -----Original Message----- From: oliver Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:23 PM To: '6-Pack' Subject: [6pack] heat into passenger footwell hi, all. i've got the valve turned off at the engine, but heat still comes into the passenger footwell. if you take a notebook and place it up against the tunnel/kidney area, it comes out quite hot. any thoughts on how to stop this? the tranny tunnel is insulated; it seems like its coming from above the tunnel. is there some kind of heating system there that maybe is out of whack? 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net From motrv8d at hotmail.com Mon Jun 22 22:36:29 2009 From: motrv8d at hotmail.com (Gene Holtzclaw) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:36:29 +0000 Subject: [6pack] heat into passenger footwell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I know that on my 76, the valve doesn't turn off all the water going through the heater core unless I push it just a little further by hand. > From: tr6taylor at webtv.net > To: sumton at sbcglobal.net; 6pack at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:33:26 +0000 > Subject: Re: [6pack] heat into passenger footwell > > Oliver---Feel the inlet heater hose close to where it leaves the shutoff valve, to be sure that the valve is working as it should. Do this check with the engine up to operating temp, and with the hood up long enough to rid the hose of underhood heat sink. If still in doubt, pinch off this hose with a pair of long nose ViseGrips. > Nor should there be enough radiant heat from the tranny to be felt thru the tranny cover. > > Dick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: oliver > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:23 PM > To: '6-Pack' > Subject: [6pack] heat into passenger footwell > > hi, all. i've got the valve turned off at the engine, but heat still comes > into the passenger footwell. if you take a notebook and place it up against > the tunnel/kidney area, it comes out quite hot. > > any thoughts on how to stop this? the tranny tunnel is insulated; it seems > like its coming from above the tunnel. is there some kind of heating system > there that maybe is out of whack? > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as motrv8d at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has ever-growing storage! Dont worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial _Storage_062009 From tr6taylor at webtv.net Mon Jun 22 22:40:58 2009 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:40:58 GMT Subject: [6pack] speedo failure Message-ID: Take a short drive with the speedo cable disconnected from the speedo to see if the inner cable is turning. If not, be sure that the square end goes up into the drive at the tranny is seated. (You should feel it drop in, and the other end of the cable then won't turn). The end that goes into the speedo shouldn't be longer than 3/8 inch. I wrapped the end of my cable tightly with masking tape and ground off the excess. -----Original Message----- From: oliver Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:39 PM To: '6-Pack', triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] speedo failure has anyone else experienced a speedo failure after installing a new cable from moss? or was i just unlucky??? 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Tue Jun 23 06:01:21 2009 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:01:21 -0400 Subject: [6pack] heat into passenger footwell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: One of the many reasons to consider this valve (http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/HeaterValve.htm) as long as you're not in to "originality". It works easily and won't fail like the stock ones. Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gene Holtzclaw Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:36 AM To: dick taylor; sumton at sbcglobal.net; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] heat into passenger footwell I know that on my 76, the valve doesn't turn off all the water going through the heater core unless I push it just a little further by hand. > From: tr6taylor at webtv.net > To: sumton at sbcglobal.net; 6pack at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:33:26 +0000 > Subject: Re: [6pack] heat into passenger footwell > > Oliver---Feel the inlet heater hose close to where it leaves the > shutoff valve, to be sure that the valve is working as it should. Do this check with the engine up to operating temp, and with the hood up long enough to rid the hose of underhood heat sink. If still in doubt, pinch off this hose with a pair of long nose ViseGrips. > Nor should there be enough radiant heat from the tranny to be felt > thru the tranny cover. > > Dick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: oliver > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 8:23 PM > To: '6-Pack' > Subject: [6pack] heat into passenger footwell > > hi, all. i've got the valve turned off at the engine, but heat still > comes into the passenger footwell. if you take a notebook and place > it up against > the tunnel/kidney area, it comes out quite hot. > > any thoughts on how to stop this? the tranny tunnel is insulated; it > seems like its coming from above the tunnel. is there some kind of > heating system > there that maybe is out of whack? > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as motrv8d at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has ever-growing storage! Dont worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l _Storage_062009 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Jun 23 07:58:48 2009 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] heat into passenger footwell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Gene Holtzclaw wrote: > I know that on my 76, the valve doesn't turn off all the water going through > the heater core unless I push it just a little further by hand. Another data point - my car is the same. In my case, the problem is that the cable sheath on the heater control cable pops out from the knob so when you push the cable, not much happens at the heater valve end. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From vance.navarrette at intel.com Tue Jun 23 08:10:56 2009 From: vance.navarrette at intel.com (Navarrette, Vance) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:10:56 -0700 Subject: [6pack] speedo failure In-Reply-To: <000e01c9f392$add40d60$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> References: <000e01c9f392$add40d60$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <4158487B9DEE0647BA23911D1C22795767F48162@orsmsx501.amr.corp.intel.com> My moss cable failed within a couple of weeks after I got my car back on the road. Sigh. Snapped about 4 inches from the speedo. Got another one and disassembled it, hosed everything down with 80W gear lube, and installed it. No problems since. Vance Vance Navarrette Cogito Ergo Zoom I think, therefore I go fast -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:39 PM To: '6-Pack'; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] speedo failure has anyone else experienced a speedo failure after installing a new cable from moss? or was i just unlucky??? _______________________________________________ From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Tue Jun 23 11:27:08 2009 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Spring pan to A Arm Studs Message-ID: <650601.31621.qm@web65606.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> What is the length of the 3/8 NF studs that are the inner connection for the lower a arms to spring pan? Someone used short bolts and lock nuts for this on my passenger side, while the drivers has the normal studs. Seems like the studs might be easier to use. Finicky to get the holes aligned to start the bolt. Using a spring compressor I made up with 3/4 grade 8 threaded rod and larger washers and bolts. Compressor seems to work okay. After connecting spring pan to a arms and attaching sway bar bracket, I presume I will: 1) connect vertical link to ball joint with the 2 long 3/8 bolts, and 2) conect the trunnion to A arms with the big bolt and the numerous bits. I take the spring compressor out after that and install shocks and attach sway bar. I just have the one side apart to do some welding to repair frame damage around the fulcrum pin. Inner fender also had to be repaired. Passenger side took a hit during a previous life, stresses took years to finally work through. Hopefully the alignment shop can now do a better alignment for me. thank you, Bruce Simms 73 TR6 __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/ From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 23 17:52:12 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:52:12 -0500 Subject: [6pack] 72 tr6 hood latch Message-ID: <001301c9f45d$a27cbef0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> hi. my old hood latch broke, and a friend put a new one in. i guess he didn't do a very good job; it kind of came apart; the post and spring were planted into the scuttle part of the latch. how do i know where/how to position the nut which controls how long the post is? and i assume common sense on where to position the assembly once i bolt it back onto the hood? just watch where it sits so that it correctly hits the bar on the scuttle? From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Tue Jun 23 17:57:53 2009 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:57:53 -0400 Subject: [6pack] [TR] speedo failure In-Reply-To: <5F93E5947D0F4DECB46FC812A086C432@chuck> References: <72A95E76C65F49D48C35519A6EFEEFFA@BOBSNEWPC> <5F93E5947D0F4DECB46FC812A086C432@chuck> Message-ID: West Valley Instruments specializes in British cars and here's what Morris at West Valley Instrument requires in a Speedo/Tach cable to guarantee his repair work: Tip can only protrude from 1/4 - 5/16" The cable end is square and should measure 0.122" - 0.124" He prefers but doesn't require a nylon bushing at the end of the cable and not a steel bushing. I think the Moss/TRF cables all have steel bushings. NFI and YMMV Bob Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: Chuck White [mailto:triumph.driver at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:10 AM To: 'Bob Danielson' Subject: RE: [TR] [6pack] speedo failure Bob, Do you remember what the measurement is supposed to be? The speedo on my 65 TR4A has 'bounced' since the day I got it. I've changed the speedo cable twice and lubricated it several times. Chuck White Xenia, OH 1965 TR4A IRS 1970 GT6+ -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Danielson Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:43 PM To: 'oliver'; '6-Pack'; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] speedo failure Oliver.......... I can tell you that when I sent my speedo out to West Valley for a rebuild/calibration, the first thing Morris asked me to do was to measure the tip of the speedo cable. If it wasn't + - "X" inches he wouldn't guarantee the rebuild. If the tip is too long it can damage the speedo/tach. Mine was 1/8" too long so he rebuilt the cable for $25. Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 7:39 PM To: '6-Pack'; triumphs at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] speedo failure has anyone else experienced a speedo failure after installing a new cable from moss? or was i just unlucky??? From bratt at sasktel.net Tue Jun 23 18:05:12 2009 From: bratt at sasktel.net (ed) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:05:12 -0600 Subject: [6pack] 72 tr6 hood latch References: <001301c9f45d$a27cbef0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <000c01c9f45f$71b46cd0$6501a8c0@willhuq4x0qsgd> Oliver: Before you find yourself locked out of your engine compartment, you should rig up an emergency hood release, for when the latch requires another stronger pull--and the cable breaks. Here is a web site telling how it is done. Ed Bratt Regina, Saskatchewan 1976 TR6. From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Jun 23 18:06:38 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:06:38 -0500 Subject: [6pack] 72 tr6 hood latch References: <001301c9f45d$a27cbef0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> <000c01c9f45f$71b46cd0$6501a8c0@willhuq4x0qsgd> Message-ID: <001501c9f45f$a61dc890$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> thanks - have one already! ----- Original Message ----- From: "ed" To: "oliver" ; "'6-Pack'" <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [6pack] 72 tr6 hood latch > Oliver: > > Before you find yourself locked out of your engine compartment, you should > rig up an emergency hood release, for when the latch requires another > stronger pull--and the cable breaks. Here is a web site telling how it is > done. > > Ed Bratt > Regina, Saskatchewan > 1976 TR6. From trguy at cfl.rr.com Tue Jun 23 18:37:40 2009 From: trguy at cfl.rr.com (James Henningsen) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:37:40 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Cold air intake Message-ID: <000301c9f463$fb609400$f221bc00$@rr.com> Anyone have a source for an inexpensive cold air intake setup for an aluminum shroud radiator duct. I know Richard Good has a nice setup, but I am looking for the economical "racer" look. I am thinking of some sort of tubing connector mounted to the shroud that the flexible tubing could clamp to and then have the tube end right in front of the front carb and have a clamp/adapter to secure. Anyone have some pics and a parts source they are willing to share. Many thanks, Jim Henningsen 75 TR6 (triple ZS) Maitland, FL From YYCTR6 at shaw.ca Tue Jun 23 18:55:12 2009 From: YYCTR6 at shaw.ca (Dave from Calgary) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:55:12 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Cold air intake In-Reply-To: <000301c9f463$fb609400$f221bc00$@rr.com> References: <000301c9f463$fb609400$f221bc00$@rr.com> Message-ID: To quote the PO of my car who did the very same thing: "The simple solution that I did was to buy the twin-snout air cleaner housing from an early ('69 - '70) TR6 and run 2 paper hoses (the ones that are sold for carb preheat) to the rad shroud just above and to the left of the carbon canister. I bought a couple of aluminum duct flanges from http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/ductflanges.php and rivited them to the shroud where I slipped the hoses on. Seems to work great with the stock carb setup. " And here's the result: http://lbcs.ca/images/P1080787_1024x768.jpg -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Henningsen Sent: June-23-09 6:38 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Cold air intake Anyone have a source for an inexpensive cold air intake setup for an aluminum shroud radiator duct. I know Richard Good has a nice setup, but I am looking for the economical "racer" look. I am thinking of some sort of tubing connector mounted to the shroud that the flexible tubing could clamp to and then have the tube end right in front of the front carb and have a clamp/adapter to secure. Anyone have some pics and a parts source they are willing to share. Many thanks, Jim Henningsen 75 TR6 (triple ZS) Maitland, FL 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as yyctr6 at shaw.ca From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Tue Jun 23 20:59:48 2009 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:59:48 -0400 Subject: [6pack] 72 tr6 hood latch In-Reply-To: <001301c9f45d$a27cbef0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> References: <001301c9f45d$a27cbef0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: Oliver.......do your self a BIG favor and install this hood release (http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/emergency_hood_release.htm) You will NEVER use the original one again. Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of oliver Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:52 PM To: '6-Pack' Subject: [6pack] 72 tr6 hood latch hi. my old hood latch broke, and a friend put a new one in. i guess he didn't do a very good job; it kind of came apart; the post and spring were planted into the scuttle part of the latch. how do i know where/how to position the nut which controls how long the post is? and i assume common sense on where to position the assembly once i bolt it back onto the hood? just watch where it sits so that it correctly hits the bar on the scuttle? 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From jimhearn1 at comcast.net Tue Jun 23 23:31:11 2009 From: jimhearn1 at comcast.net (jim hearn) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:31:11 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration Message-ID: <000c01c9f48c$fc3bb520$b1191718@computer> I have had this not too severe of a vibration for some time. It kind of has me stumped as to what it might be. The TR6 is a 1974 with a standard 4 speed tranny. The vibration only occurs when accelerating in fourth gear. In any other gear, it is not there. Release the throttle in fourth gear and the vibration goes away. To increase acceleration on the flat and level, will increase the vibration, but to increase the throttle input to climb a hill does not increase the vibration. The vibration can be felt through the accelerator pedal and the steering column, but, as I said, it is not severe but it is constant under the conditions noted. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Jim [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] From red_tr250 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 24 08:37:37 2009 From: red_tr250 at yahoo.com (Todd Bermudez) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration Message-ID: <847511.70690.qm@web43136.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi Jim, Take a good look at the U-Joints on the drive shaft...my guess is the rear. It is possible the drive shaft is out of balance as well...threw a weight? It could also be the the UJs on the axles....beyond the clicking sound....when the bearings get to be just "shot" you'll get a vibration. Try that & get back with us Cheers, Todd Bermudez Cincy, OH TR250(project) TR250(more of a project) TR6(project) GT6(RHD) GT6(RHD-Project) GT6(LHD-Project) GT6(LHD-Project) Triumph 2000 (driver) This may or may not be the total count --- On Wed, 6/24/09, jim hearn wrote: > From: jim hearn > Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration > To: "'6 Digest'" <6pack at autox.team.net> > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:31 AM > I have had this not too severe of a > vibration for some time. It kind of has > me stumped as to what it might be. The TR6 is a 1974 > with a standard 4 > speed tranny. The vibration only occurs when > accelerating in fourth gear. > In any other gear, it is not there. Release the > throttle in fourth gear and > the vibration goes away. To increase acceleration on > the flat and level, > will increase the vibration, but to increase the throttle > input to climb a > hill does not increase the vibration. The vibration > can be felt through the > accelerator pedal and the steering column, but, as I said, > it is not severe > but it is constant under the conditions noted. Any > thoughts would be > greatly appreciated. Jim > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type > application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as red_tr250 at yahoo.com From jimhearn1 at comcast.net Wed Jun 24 08:59:35 2009 From: jimhearn1 at comcast.net (jim hearn) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:59:35 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration In-Reply-To: <847511.70690.qm@web43136.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c9f4dc$63820e60$b1191718@computer> My first suspects for the vibration were the tires and/or the drive shaft, but the conditions under which it vibrates would seem to eliminate these two sources and I'm not sure but doesn't it also eliminate the u-joints since why doesn't it vibrate accelerating on the flat in third gear? Jim -----Original Message----- From: Todd Bermudez [mailto:red_tr250 at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: '6 Digest'; jim hearn Subject: Re: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration Hi Jim, Take a good look at the U-Joints on the drive shaft...my guess is the rear. It is possible the drive shaft is out of balance as well...threw a weight? It could also be the the UJs on the axles....beyond the clicking sound....when the bearings get to be just "shot" you'll get a vibration. Try that & get back with us Cheers, Todd Bermudez Cincy, OH TR250(project) TR250(more of a project) TR6(project) GT6(RHD) GT6(RHD-Project) GT6(LHD-Project) GT6(LHD-Project) Triumph 2000 (driver) This may or may not be the total count --- On Wed, 6/24/09, jim hearn wrote: > From: jim hearn > Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration > To: "'6 Digest'" <6pack at autox.team.net> > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:31 AM > I have had this not too severe of a > vibration for some time. It kind of has > me stumped as to what it might be. The TR6 is a 1974 > with a standard 4 > speed tranny. The vibration only occurs when > accelerating in fourth gear. > In any other gear, it is not there. Release the > throttle in fourth gear and > the vibration goes away. To increase acceleration on > the flat and level, > will increase the vibration, but to increase the throttle > input to climb a > hill does not increase the vibration. The vibration > can be felt through the > accelerator pedal and the steering column, but, as I said, > it is not severe > but it is constant under the conditions noted. Any > thoughts would be > greatly appreciated. Jim > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type > application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as red_tr250 at yahoo.com From wensley_tr at comcast.net Wed Jun 24 09:15:06 2009 From: wensley_tr at comcast.net (Craig) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:15:06 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration In-Reply-To: <000001c9f4dc$63820e60$b1191718@computer> References: <847511.70690.qm@web43136.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <000001c9f4dc$63820e60$b1191718@computer> Message-ID: <002e01c9f4de$8e7c07e0$ab7417a0$@net> Also Todd it would eliminate the clutch (only takes place in 4) Good one.... Craig -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jim hearn Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:00 AM To: 'Todd Bermudez'; '6 Digest' Subject: Re: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration My first suspects for the vibration were the tires and/or the drive shaft, but the conditions under which it vibrates would seem to eliminate these two sources and I'm not sure but doesn't it also eliminate the u-joints since why doesn't it vibrate accelerating on the flat in third gear? Jim -----Original Message----- From: Todd Bermudez [mailto:red_tr250 at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:38 AM To: '6 Digest'; jim hearn Subject: Re: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration Hi Jim, Take a good look at the U-Joints on the drive shaft...my guess is the rear. It is possible the drive shaft is out of balance as well...threw a weight? It could also be the the UJs on the axles....beyond the clicking sound....when the bearings get to be just "shot" you'll get a vibration. Try that & get back with us Cheers, Todd Bermudez Cincy, OH TR250(project) TR250(more of a project) TR6(project) GT6(RHD) GT6(RHD-Project) GT6(LHD-Project) GT6(LHD-Project) Triumph 2000 (driver) This may or may not be the total count --- On Wed, 6/24/09, jim hearn wrote: > From: jim hearn > Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration > To: "'6 Digest'" <6pack at autox.team.net> > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 1:31 AM > I have had this not too severe of a > vibration for some time. It kind of has > me stumped as to what it might be. The TR6 is a 1974 > with a standard 4 > speed tranny. The vibration only occurs when > accelerating in fourth gear. > In any other gear, it is not there. Release the > throttle in fourth gear and > the vibration goes away. To increase acceleration on > the flat and level, > will increase the vibration, but to increase the throttle > input to climb a > hill does not increase the vibration. The vibration > can be felt through the > accelerator pedal and the steering column, but, as I said, > it is not severe > but it is constant under the conditions noted. Any > thoughts would be > greatly appreciated. Jim > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type > application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as red_tr250 at yahoo.com 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as wensley_tr at comcast.net From vance.navarrette at intel.com Wed Jun 24 09:25:06 2009 From: vance.navarrette at intel.com (Navarrette, Vance) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:25:06 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration In-Reply-To: <000001c9f4dc$63820e60$b1191718@computer> References: <847511.70690.qm@web43136.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <000001c9f4dc$63820e60$b1191718@computer> Message-ID: <4158487B9DEE0647BA23911D1C22795767F488DA@orsmsx501.amr.corp.intel.com> Jim: I am inclined to agree with you. The issue seems to be one of two things in my mind, tire balance or front wheel bearings. It doesn't happen in third, because the tires are not rotating fast enough. If it were u-joints, I would expect third and fourth to be similar, depending on the RPMS. Also, it doesn't happen in fourth going up hill because it does not depend on throttle setting, it depends on car speed, which stays flat or climbs very slowly when going up hill. So here is my suggestion: 1. Check your front wheel bearings for slop. Grab the top of the wheel with both hands, place your feet against the bottom of the wheel and lean back while tugging (pretty much your full body weight). If you feel the wheel rock back and forth, then your wheel bearing is loose or worn out. Fix this first. I have found that the Bentley manual is incorrect in the wheel bearing setup. Bentley mentions something about "back off one flat" when tightening the castle nut. I feel this is just "flat" wrong (Har-har-har. I crack myself up!). Finger tighten the castle nut, but do not back off one flat. 2. Have your tires balanced WITH THE TRIM RINGS ON THE WHEELS. If you don't have trim rings then this is not as big a deal. My experience is that tire shops take the trim off to balance the wheel, then puts the trim back on ASSuming that the trim will not affect the balance. WRONG! Ask me how I know. Vance Navarrette Cogito Ergo Zoom I think, therefore I go fast -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jim hearn Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:00 AM To: 'Todd Bermudez'; '6 Digest' Subject: Re: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration My first suspects for the vibration were the tires and/or the drive shaft, but the conditions under which it vibrates would seem to eliminate these two sources and I'm not sure but doesn't it also eliminate the u-joints since why doesn't it vibrate accelerating on the flat in third gear? Jim From red_tr250 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 24 09:44:31 2009 From: red_tr250 at yahoo.com (Todd Bermudez) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:44:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration Message-ID: <654022.79272.qm@web43142.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Do you happen to notice what speed this vibration occurs? Meaning, as soon as you put it in 4th it starts vibrating or is it at a certain speed? In theory you could go into 4th at a low speed & test? Does it vibrate? What I've always experienced with out of balance tyres is they will have certain speeds that they'll start vibrating. Though if one of your rims has a ton of runout you could experience vibration that won't go away. I'm still inclined to believe it's either that rear drive shaft UJ or the drive shaft itself....IMHO Cheers, Todd > > Jim: > > > > I am inclined to agree with you. The > > issue seems to be one of two things in > > my mind, tire balance or front wheel bearings. It > doesn't > > happen in third, > > because the tires are not rotating fast enough. If it > were > > u-joints, I would > > expect third and fourth to be similar, depending on > the > > RPMS. Also, it doesn't > > happen in fourth going up hill because it does not > depend > > on throttle setting, > > it depends on car speed, which stays flat or climbs > very > > slowly when going up > > hill. > > So here is my suggestion: > > > > 1. Check your front wheel bearings for > > slop. Grab the top of the wheel with > > both hands, place your feet against the bottom of the > wheel > > and lean back > > while tugging (pretty much your full body weight). If > you > > feel the wheel rock > > back and forth, then your wheel bearing is loose or > worn > > out. Fix this first. > > I have found that the Bentley manual is incorrect in > the > > wheel bearing setup. > > Bentley mentions something about "back off one flat" > when > > tightening the > > castle nut. I feel this is just "flat" wrong > (Har-har-har. > > I crack myself > > up!). Finger tighten the castle nut, but do not back > off > > one flat. > > 2. Have your tires balanced WITH THE > > TRIM RINGS ON THE WHEELS. If you don't > > have trim rings then this is not as big a deal. My > > experience is that tire > > shops take the trim off to balance the wheel, then > puts the > > trim back on > > ASSuming that the trim will not affect the balance. > WRONG! > > Ask me how I know. > > > > Vance Navarrette > > Cogito Ergo Zoom > > I think, therefore I go fast From Michael_Corbitt at ous.edu Wed Jun 24 10:32:06 2009 From: Michael_Corbitt at ous.edu (Corbitt, Michael) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:32:06 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 Message-ID: <2E09C5AF30306D43BDB6A47153005222021712C3@NWS-EXCH3.nws.oregonstate.edu> I'm getting ready to replace my 11 year old 185/70/15 tires on my 69. I'm planning to replace them with a 205/70/15 on original steel rims. Anybody know of any problems with running a 205 on the stock rims? Tire selection seems to be limited for a 205/70/15. Maybe someday I'll buy a set of 16 inch wheels where the selection is much greater. I'm looking for a fairly sticky set of tires and I'm not worried about their mileage rating. My 11 year old tires still look almost new. I have my eye on BF Goodrich TAs. I've looked at some reviews on the web that indicate the tires can be pretty noisy (of course, how big a problem is this anyway on a TR6?). I would be interested in knowing what brand and series of 205/70/15 tires some of you run that you particularly like. Thanks. Mike Corvallis, OR From YYCTR6 at shaw.ca Wed Jun 24 10:43:53 2009 From: YYCTR6 at shaw.ca (Dave More) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:43:53 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 In-Reply-To: <2E09C5AF30306D43BDB6A47153005222021712C3@NWS-EXCH3.nws.oregonstate.edu> References: <2E09C5AF30306D43BDB6A47153005222021712C3@NWS-EXCH3.nws.oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: No issues at all, even with a rear shock conversion. The 205/70-15 size is almost exactly the same as the original tires. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Corbitt, Michael" Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:33 am Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 To: 6pack at autox.team.net > I'm getting ready to replace my 11 year old 185/70/15 tires on > my 69. > I'm planning to replace them with a 205/70/15 on original steel rims. > Anybody know of any problems with running a 205 on the stock rims? > > > > Tire selection seems to be limited for a 205/70/15. Maybe > someday I'll > buy a set of 16 inch wheels where the selection is much greater. > > > > I'm looking for a fairly sticky set of tires and I'm not worried about > their mileage rating. My 11 year old tires still look > almost new. I > have my eye on BF Goodrich TAs. I've looked at some > reviews on the web > that indicate the tires can be pretty noisy (of course, how big a > problem is this anyway on a TR6?). I would be > interested in knowing > what brand and series of 205/70/15 tires some of you run > that you > particularly like. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Mike > > Corvallis, OR > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as yyctr6 at shaw.ca From YYCTR6 at shaw.ca Wed Jun 24 10:48:24 2009 From: YYCTR6 at shaw.ca (Dave More) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:48:24 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 In-Reply-To: References: <2E09C5AF30306D43BDB6A47153005222021712C3@NWS-EXCH3.nws.oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: Sorry, I meant to say that the DIAMETER is almost identical. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave More Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:44 am Subject: Re: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 To: "Corbitt, Michael" Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net > No issues at all, even with a rear shock conversion. The 205/70- > 15 size is > almost exactly the same as the original tires. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Corbitt, Michael" > Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:33 am > Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > > > I'm getting ready to replace my 11 year old 185/70/15 tires on > > my 69. > > I'm planning to replace them with a 205/70/15 on original > steel rims. > > Anybody know of any problems with running a 205 on the stock rims? > > > > > > > > Tire selection seems to be limited for a 205/70/15. Maybe > > someday I'll > > buy a set of 16 inch wheels where the selection is much greater. > > > > > > > > I'm looking for a fairly sticky set of tires and I'm not > worried about > > their mileage rating. My 11 year old tires still look > > almost new. I > > have my eye on BF Goodrich TAs. I've looked at some > > reviews on the web > > that indicate the tires can be pretty noisy (of course, how > big a > > problem is this anyway on a TR6?). I would be > > interested in knowing > > what brand and series of 205/70/15 tires some of you run > > that you > > particularly like. > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > Corvallis, OR > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > 6pack at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > You are subscribed as yyctr6 at shaw.ca > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as yyctr6 at shaw.ca From sumton at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 24 11:03:28 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:03:28 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 References: <2E09C5AF30306D43BDB6A47153005222021712C3@NWS-EXCH3.nws.oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: <000701c9f4ed$b58e05e0$61a7a8c0@ranteer.local> Now I'm running Yokohama 215/60 R15 94V ES100 tires. No problem on fit, even on the lowered suspension. They stop, corner, etc. I'm happy! got them at tirerack.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Corbitt, Michael" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 > I'm getting ready to replace my 11 year old 185/70/15 tires on my 69. > I'm planning to replace them with a 205/70/15 on original steel rims. > Anybody know of any problems with running a 205 on the stock rims? > > > > Tire selection seems to be limited for a 205/70/15. Maybe someday I'll > buy a set of 16 inch wheels where the selection is much greater. > > > > I'm looking for a fairly sticky set of tires and I'm not worried about > their mileage rating. My 11 year old tires still look almost new. I > have my eye on BF Goodrich TAs. I've looked at some reviews on the web > that indicate the tires can be pretty noisy (of course, how big a > problem is this anyway on a TR6?). I would be interested in knowing > what brand and series of 205/70/15 tires some of you run that you > particularly like. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Mike > > Corvallis, OR From fishplate at charter.net Wed Jun 24 11:21:18 2009 From: fishplate at charter.net (fishplate at charter.net) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:21:18 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 In-Reply-To: <2E09C5AF30306D43BDB6A47153005222021712C3@NWS-EXCH3.nws.oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: <7tMJ1c00V5Pgm8H05tMJZX@charter.net> ---- "Corbitt wrote: > I'm getting ready to replace my 11 year old 185/70/15 tires on my 69. > I'm planning to replace them with a 205/70/15 on original steel rims. > Anybody know of any problems with running a 205 on the stock rims? They're a little wider - beyond the limit? I couldn't say... Have a shufti at the MintyLamb tire calculator: http://www.mintylamb.co.uk/?page=tyre.htm According to this, a 195/65-15 is real close to the original size. I have a pair of 205/65-15 tires on my stock rims, and the look a bit fat. I plan to replace them with the 195/65-15 size. I'm thinking the Sumitomo HTR - I've got a set on my Spitfire that are nice and sticky, and not noisy. Decent price, too... Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. From shawn.loseke at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 11:30:34 2009 From: shawn.loseke at gmail.com (shawn loseke) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:30:34 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 In-Reply-To: <7tMJ1c00V5Pgm8H05tMJZX@charter.net> References: <2E09C5AF30306D43BDB6A47153005222021712C3@NWS-EXCH3.nws.oregonstate.edu> <7tMJ1c00V5Pgm8H05tMJZX@charter.net> Message-ID: <3ea26c6b0906241030j2b32c9bha8a3fad9c1d5037f@mail.gmail.com> Actualy a 195/65 is a smaller rolling diameter then the original. The original 185R15's had a sidewall closer to an 80 series so you have to plug in 185/80R15 into the tire size calculator. If you assume the sidewall to be a 70 series (185/70R15) then a 195/65R15 is closer. Shawn On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:21 AM, wrote: > ---- "Corbitt wrote: >> I'm getting ready to replace my 11 year old 185/70/15 tires on my 69. >> I'm planning to replace them with a 205/70/15 on original steel rims. >> Anybody know of any problems with running a 205 on the stock rims? > > They're a little wider - beyond the limit? I couldn't say... > > Have a shufti at the MintyLamb tire calculator: > > http://www.mintylamb.co.uk/?page=tyre.htm > > According to this, a 195/65-15 is real close to the original size. I have a pair of 205/65-15 tires on my stock rims, and the look a bit fat. I plan to replace them with the 195/65-15 size. > > I'm thinking the Sumitomo HTR - I've got a set on my Spitfire that are nice and sticky, and not noisy. Decent price, too... > > Jeff Scarbrough > Corrosion Acres, Ga. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as shawn.loseke at gmail.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Jun 24 11:44:06 2009 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 In-Reply-To: <3ea26c6b0906241030j2b32c9bha8a3fad9c1d5037f@mail.gmail.com> References: <2E09C5AF30306D43BDB6A47153005222021712C3@NWS-EXCH3.nws.oregonstate.edu> <7tMJ1c00V5Pgm8H05tMJZX@charter.net> <3ea26c6b0906241030j2b32c9bha8a3fad9c1d5037f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 24 Jun 2009, shawn loseke wrote: > Actualy a 195/65 is a smaller rolling diameter then the original. The > original 185R15's had a sidewall closer to an 80 series so you have to > plug in 185/80R15 into the tire size calculator. If you assume the > sidewall to be a 70 series (185/70R15) then a 195/65R15 is closer. Keep in mind another important factor... most tires are molded with tread depths in the 9/32 to 10/32" range. This adds about .5 inches to the height of a brand-new tire. Half and inch to 25 inches is 4 or 5 percent, but a worn down tire of stock size will be very close in diameter to the alternate "modern profiles" available (like 205/70-15.) > Shawn regards, rml p.s. I like the "look" of my 23x9x15 sliX - =:-0 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From fishplate at charter.net Wed Jun 24 11:57:14 2009 From: fishplate at charter.net (fishplate at charter.net) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:57:14 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 In-Reply-To: <3ea26c6b0906241030j2b32c9bha8a3fad9c1d5037f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090624135714.KZTP2.784252.root@mp20> ---- shawn loseke wrote: > Actualy a 195/65 is a smaller rolling diameter then the original. The > original 185R15's had a sidewall closer to an 80 series so you have to > plug in 185/80R15 into the tire size calculator. If you assume the > sidewall to be a 70 series (185/70R15) then a 195/65R15 is closer. > Good point. Does anyone know the widest tire you can ~safely~ put on a stock 15x5.5J rim? Seems like that's the limiting factor. I've got a set of redlines that still have tread left. They have a date code of 1985, near as I can tell. I'd hate to ruin my original paint job... Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. From emanteno at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 12:00:46 2009 From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:00:46 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 In-Reply-To: <20090624135714.KZTP2.784252.root@mp20> References: <3ea26c6b0906241030j2b32c9bha8a3fad9c1d5037f@mail.gmail.com> <20090624135714.KZTP2.784252.root@mp20> Message-ID: <354a1780906241100l78a61289y7f2012a423a1d11@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:57 PM, wrote: > > > Good point. Does anyone know the widest tire you can ~safely~ put on a > stock 15x5.5J rim? Seems like that's the limiting factor. Back when I was on stock rims and researched that, 215/60x15 was the widest recommended on the 5.5" stock rims. Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL From altomare.steven at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 12:14:16 2009 From: altomare.steven at gmail.com (Steven Altomare) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:14:16 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 In-Reply-To: <3ea26c6b0906241030j2b32c9bha8a3fad9c1d5037f@mail.gmail.com> References: <2E09C5AF30306D43BDB6A47153005222021712C3@NWS-EXCH3.nws.oregonstate.edu> <7tMJ1c00V5Pgm8H05tMJZX@charter.net> <3ea26c6b0906241030j2b32c9bha8a3fad9c1d5037f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If we want to be really particular about the tire sizes you also have to consider the tolerances the manufacturers and the standards governing bodies allow. Depending on the size and standards organization (TRA/ETRTO/FMVSS/Internal company standards), you may have as much as 20 mm or so difference in diameter between different brands of the exact same size tire. 20 mm comes out to about .78 inches. I went to 205/70R15's and they work just fine. The speedo is off but I know how to adjust for it in my head to get the right speed. Steven From sumton at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 24 12:39:11 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:39:11 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 References: <20090624135714.KZTP2.784252.root@mp20> Message-ID: <001701c9f4fb$25457f50$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> when i called tirerack, i asked for the fattest stickies tires they had that would fit on the stock rims. they said 215/60 R15 >> > > Good point. Does anyone know the widest tire you can ~safely~ put on a > stock 15x5.5J rim? Seems like that's the limiting factor. From tr6taylor at webtv.net Wed Jun 24 13:26:14 2009 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:26:14 GMT Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration Message-ID: Jim---The usual suspects are any of the U-joints, but since you've had this vibration for some time, it should've gotten worse. I'll suggest that you check out the exhaust system, front to back. Bang on different pieces with your hand to check that one maybe too close to the frame or body. (Best done with the car weight evenly distributed, like when on the road. Got a nearby muffler shop that'll do this for you)? Dick -----Original Message----- From: jim hearn Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:31 PM To: '6 Digest' Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration I have had this not too severe of a vibration for some time. It kind of has me stumped as to what it might be. The TR6 is a 1974 with a standard 4 speed tranny. The vibration only occurs when accelerating in fourth gear. In any other gear, it is not there. Release the throttle in fourth gear and the vibration goes away. To increase acceleration on the flat and level, will increase the vibration, but to increase the throttle input to climb a hill does not increase the vibration. The vibration can be felt through the accelerator pedal and the steering column, but, as I said, it is not severe but it is constant under the conditions noted. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Jim [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net From jimhearn1 at comcast.net Wed Jun 24 13:53:39 2009 From: jimhearn1 at comcast.net (jim hearn) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:53:39 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration In-Reply-To: <4158487B9DEE0647BA23911D1C22795767F488DA@orsmsx501.amr.corp.intel.com> Message-ID: <000001c9f505$784a0bd0$b1191718@computer> Thanks for all the input. I've been all through the wheel bearings and they are fine. I too have had tire balance issues that were pretty evasive but finally conquered. This vibration doesn't have a particular speed range; it just needs to be in fourth gear (at just about any speed) with some acceleration taking place. My thought is that it could be a bearing in the tranny to do with the final output shaft but I don't know TR6 trannys or any trannys enough to say for sure. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Navarrette, Vance [mailto:vance.navarrette at intel.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:25 AM To: jim hearn; '6 Digest' Subject: RE: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration Jim: I am inclined to agree with you. The issue seems to be one of two things in my mind, tire balance or front wheel bearings. It doesn't happen in third, because the tires are not rotating fast enough. If it were u-joints, I would expect third and fourth to be similar, depending on the RPMS. Also, it doesn't happen in fourth going up hill because it does not depend on throttle setting, it depends on car speed, which stays flat or climbs very slowly when going up hill. So here is my suggestion: 1. Check your front wheel bearings for slop. Grab the top of the wheel with both hands, place your feet against the bottom of the wheel and lean back while tugging (pretty much your full body weight). If you feel the wheel rock back and forth, then your wheel bearing is loose or worn out. Fix this first. I have found that the Bentley manual is incorrect in the wheel bearing setup. Bentley mentions something about "back off one flat" when tightening the castle nut. I feel this is just "flat" wrong (Har-har-har. I crack myself up!). Finger tighten the castle nut, but do not back off one flat. 2. Have your tires balanced WITH THE TRIM RINGS ON THE WHEELS. If you don't have trim rings then this is not as big a deal. My experience is that tire shops take the trim off to balance the wheel, then puts the trim back on ASSuming that the trim will not affect the balance. WRONG! Ask me how I know. Vance Navarrette Cogito Ergo Zoom I think, therefore I go fast -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jim hearn Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:00 AM To: 'Todd Bermudez'; '6 Digest' Subject: Re: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration My first suspects for the vibration were the tires and/or the drive shaft, but the conditions under which it vibrates would seem to eliminate these two sources and I'm not sure but doesn't it also eliminate the u-joints since why doesn't it vibrate accelerating on the flat in third gear? Jim From tgeiger at GeigerGarage.com Wed Jun 24 14:08:57 2009 From: tgeiger at GeigerGarage.com (Terry Geiger) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:08:57 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration In-Reply-To: <000001c9f505$784a0bd0$b1191718@computer> References: <000001c9f505$784a0bd0$b1191718@computer> Message-ID: <84E8DE2F35CD442BBB82AB5DD3DCF3BE@aitinc.local> Jim, Do you feel the vibration in the gear shifter? If so, is it very pronounced or does it feel about like the vibration you are feeling in the steering wheel? We're all familiar with the rate of vibration when a wheel is out of balance at 60 MPH. Does it feel like it is at that rate or much faster? The reason I ask is if the component causing the vibration is turning at driveshaft speed, it will be about 3 times faster than wheel speed. This may help you narrow your search. Have you checked the diff mounts? A cracked mount can cause some crazy vibrations. Terry Geiger www.GeigerGarage.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim hearn" To: "'Navarrette, Vance'" ; "'6 Digest'" <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration > Thanks for all the input. I've been all through the wheel bearings and > they are fine. I too have had tire balance issues that were pretty > evasive but finally conquered. This vibration doesn't have a particular > speed range; it just needs to be in fourth gear (at just about any > speed) with some acceleration taking place. My thought is that it could > be a bearing in the tranny to do with the final output shaft but I don't > know TR6 trannys or any trannys enough to say for sure. Jim From rpeglow at optonline.net Wed Jun 24 17:14:39 2009 From: rpeglow at optonline.net (Bob) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:14:39 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 References: <2E09C5AF30306D43BDB6A47153005222021712C3@NWS-EXCH3.nws.oregonstate.edu> Message-ID: <003a01c9f521$8ca50280$c6f37b45@gpcorporate.com> Hi Michael, I am running Yokohama AVID TRZ P205/70R15 My speedo is only off by 1-2 MPH checked by GPS. Picture attached will be stripped by list. Regards, Bob .----- Original Message ----- From: "Corbitt, Michael" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: [6pack] Tire Selection for 205/70/15 > I'm getting ready to replace my 11 year old 185/70/15 tires on my 69. > I'm planning to replace them with a 205/70/15 on original steel rims. > Anybody know of any problems with running a 205 on the stock rims? > > > > Tire selection seems to be limited for a 205/70/15. Maybe someday I'll > buy a set of 16 inch wheels where the selection is much greater. > > > > I'm looking for a fairly sticky set of tires and I'm not worried about > their mileage rating. My 11 year old tires still look almost new. I > have my eye on BF Goodrich TAs. I've looked at some reviews on the web > that indicate the tires can be pretty noisy (of course, how big a > problem is this anyway on a TR6?). I would be interested in knowing > what brand and series of 205/70/15 tires some of you run that you > particularly like. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Mike > > Corvallis, OR > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as rpeglow at optonline.net > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) > Database version: 6.12680 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12680 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of stockMichVSYoko.jpg] From vance.navarrette at intel.com Wed Jun 24 14:39:39 2009 From: vance.navarrette at intel.com (Navarrette, Vance) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:39:39 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration In-Reply-To: <000001c9f505$784a0bd0$b1191718@computer> References: <4158487B9DEE0647BA23911D1C22795767F488DA@orsmsx501.amr.corp.intel.com> <000001c9f505$784a0bd0$b1191718@computer> Message-ID: <4158487B9DEE0647BA23911D1C22795767F48BDD@orsmsx501.amr.corp.intel.com> Jim: First gear is where the greatest torque and therefore greatest wear occurs. Also, when in forth gear the power is transferred directly from the input shaft to the output shaft (bypasses the gears entirely). The output shaft is shared by all gears, so a bad bearing or some such would be most highly loaded in the lower gears because of torque multiplication. So it is unlikely to have anything to do with the transmission (IMHO). Have you checked your motor and tranny mounts? 4th would place a lot of pressure on the motor mounts in particular, although that does not explain why you feel it through the steering wheel. I suppose if your mounts were in really bad shape, the motor might sag to the point it touches the frame near the steering rack (I can't remember the exact motor position relative to the frame, so this is just a WAG). Anyway, have you checked your motor mounts? Vance Vance Navarrette Cogito Ergo Zoom I think, therefore I go fast -----Original Message----- From: jim hearn [mailto:jimhearn1 at comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:54 PM To: Navarrette, Vance; '6 Digest' Subject: RE: [6pack] Trying to locate the source of a TR6 vibration Thanks for all the input. I've been all through the wheel bearings and they are fine. I too have had tire balance issues that were pretty evasive but finally conquered. This vibration doesn't have a particular speed range; it just needs to be in fourth gear (at just about any speed) with some acceleration taking place. My thought is that it could be a bearing in the tranny to do with the final output shaft but I don't know TR6 trannys or any trannys enough to say for sure. Jim From trguy at cfl.rr.com Wed Jun 24 15:31:40 2009 From: trguy at cfl.rr.com (James Henningsen) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:31:40 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Cold air intake In-Reply-To: References: <000301c9f463$fb609400$f221bc00$@rr.com> Message-ID: <001401c9f513$299c1b50$7cd451f0$@rr.com> Dave: Thanks for the idea and a great setup for the twin carb. The source for the duct flange is a big help. Jim Henningsen -----Original Message----- From: Dave from Calgary [mailto:YYCTR6 at shaw.ca] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:55 PM To: 'James Henningsen'; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [6pack] Cold air intake To quote the PO of my car who did the very same thing: "The simple solution that I did was to buy the twin-snout air cleaner housing from an early ('69 - '70) TR6 and run 2 paper hoses (the ones that are sold for carb preheat) to the rad shroud just above and to the left of the carbon canister. I bought a couple of aluminum duct flanges from http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/ductflanges.php and rivited them to the shroud where I slipped the hoses on. Seems to work great with the stock carb setup. " And here's the result: http://lbcs.ca/images/P1080787_1024x768.jpg -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Henningsen Sent: June-23-09 6:38 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Cold air intake Anyone have a source for an inexpensive cold air intake setup for an aluminum shroud radiator duct. I know Richard Good has a nice setup, but I am looking for the economical "racer" look. I am thinking of some sort of tubing connector mounted to the shroud that the flexible tubing could clamp to and then have the tube end right in front of the front carb and have a clamp/adapter to secure. Anyone have some pics and a parts source they are willing to share. Many thanks, Jim Henningsen 75 TR6 (triple ZS) Maitland, FL 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as yyctr6 at shaw.ca From tr6parts at charter.net Wed Jun 24 18:17:59 2009 From: tr6parts at charter.net (Al Salvatore) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:17:59 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Cold air intake References: <000301c9f463$fb609400$f221bc00$@rr.com> <001401c9f513$299c1b50$7cd451f0$@rr.com> Message-ID: <085AF769DA0C42E4A011C5079D967274@Alan> If you have triples, I've seen where someone had take two air cleaners and sectioned them so they would fit the triple set-up. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Henningsen" To: "'Dave from Calgary'" ; <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [6pack] Cold air intake > Dave: > Thanks for the idea and a great setup for the twin carb. The source for > the > duct flange is a big help. > Jim Henningsen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave from Calgary [mailto:YYCTR6 at shaw.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:55 PM > To: 'James Henningsen'; 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [6pack] Cold air intake > > To quote the PO of my car who did the very same thing: > > "The simple solution that I did was to buy the twin-snout air cleaner > housing > from an early ('69 - '70) TR6 and run 2 paper hoses (the ones that are > sold > for > carb preheat) to the rad shroud just above and to the left of the carbon > canister. I bought a couple of aluminum duct flanges from > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/ductflanges.php and rivited > them > to the shroud where I slipped the hoses on. Seems to work great with the > stock > carb setup. " > > And here's the result: http://lbcs.ca/images/P1080787_1024x768.jpg > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of James Henningsen > Sent: June-23-09 6:38 PM > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] Cold air intake > > Anyone have a source for an inexpensive cold air intake setup for an > aluminum shroud radiator duct. I know Richard Good has a nice setup, but > I > am looking for the economical "racer" look. I am thinking of some sort of > tubing connector mounted to the shroud that the flexible tubing could > clamp > to and then have the tube end right in front of the front carb and have a > clamp/adapter to secure. Anyone have some pics and a parts source they > are > willing to share. Many thanks, > > Jim Henningsen > > 75 TR6 (triple ZS) > > Maitland, FL From trguy at cfl.rr.com Wed Jun 24 18:27:38 2009 From: trguy at cfl.rr.com (James Henningsen) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:27:38 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Cold air intake In-Reply-To: <085AF769DA0C42E4A011C5079D967274@Alan> References: <000301c9f463$fb609400$f221bc00$@rr.com> <001401c9f513$299c1b50$7cd451f0$@rr.com> <085AF769DA0C42E4A011C5079D967274@Alan> Message-ID: <001501c9f52b$bf2a2960$3d7e7c20$@rr.com> Yea - I saw that too and it looked cool on the car. I have three 3 inch K&N air filters and just want to get some cold fresh air to them. I ordered some ducting and a duct flange from Spruce aircraft and will create a clamp/bracket that will secure the duct end near the carbs off of the passenger front stay bar attachment nut. If this doesn't make sense, it's because the cold beer has not flowed yet. I love the look of a low budget racer! Cheers, Jim Henningsen -----Original Message----- From: Al Salvatore [mailto:tr6parts at charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:18 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net; James Henningsen Subject: Re: [6pack] Cold air intake If you have triples, I've seen where someone had take two air cleaners and sectioned them so they would fit the triple set-up. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Henningsen" To: "'Dave from Calgary'" ; <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [6pack] Cold air intake > Dave: > Thanks for the idea and a great setup for the twin carb. The source for > the > duct flange is a big help. > Jim Henningsen > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave from Calgary [mailto:YYCTR6 at shaw.ca] > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:55 PM > To: 'James Henningsen'; 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: RE: [6pack] Cold air intake > > To quote the PO of my car who did the very same thing: > > "The simple solution that I did was to buy the twin-snout air cleaner > housing > from an early ('69 - '70) TR6 and run 2 paper hoses (the ones that are > sold > for > carb preheat) to the rad shroud just above and to the left of the carbon > canister. I bought a couple of aluminum duct flanges from > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/ductflanges.php and rivited > them > to the shroud where I slipped the hoses on. Seems to work great with the > stock > carb setup. " > > And here's the result: http://lbcs.ca/images/P1080787_1024x768.jpg > > > -----Original Message----- > From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of James Henningsen > Sent: June-23-09 6:38 PM > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] Cold air intake > > Anyone have a source for an inexpensive cold air intake setup for an > aluminum shroud radiator duct. I know Richard Good has a nice setup, but > I > am looking for the economical "racer" look. I am thinking of some sort of > tubing connector mounted to the shroud that the flexible tubing could > clamp > to and then have the tube end right in front of the front carb and have a > clamp/adapter to secure. Anyone have some pics and a parts source they > are > willing to share. Many thanks, > > Jim Henningsen > > 75 TR6 (triple ZS) > > Maitland, FL From im_sloane at hotmail.com Thu Jun 25 07:34:18 2009 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:34:18 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Alternator puzzle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Update: The problem turned out to be that the negative wire from the battery to the body was missing. The system was getting some ground from the engine block wire, but not enough to power the headlights, thus at night he blew the alternator. Sloane :) > > > We have a problem with my brother's electrical system. It's a 73 TR6. His > > Lucas alternator was only a couple years old and it died. Well, sort of > died. > > It would charge enough to get by but when listening to the radio and > running > > the lights at the same time the volts would drop to zero. He got a Bosch > last > > week and it was doing fine, charging 13.5 volts. Now it's dead too. It > could > > be a coincidence that he just got a bad one, but I'm thinking something > > strange is going on in the wires somewhere. Anybody been there-done that? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. > http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as im_sloane at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 From trsix74 at comcast.net Thu Jun 25 18:52:25 2009 From: trsix74 at comcast.net (Robert Liam Gannon) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:52:25 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Test Message-ID: <15F4A891BD4A4372AD421513740BC2AC@Robert> Testing, one two three! Robert L. Gannon http://home.comcast.net/~trsix74/site/?/home/ From r_rochlin at hotmail.com Fri Jun 26 13:11:05 2009 From: r_rochlin at hotmail.com (Bob Rochlin) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:11:05 +0000 Subject: [6pack] A type overdrive speedometer gear problem Message-ID: Hi list, About a month ago my speedometer stopped working. After some searching I found that the speedo gear in the A type overdrive was not engaging the angle gear. Further looking showed that the speedometer gear was able to withdraw into the bearing enough the disengage the angel drive shaft. Checking my other transmission (non overdrive) I found that the orange speedometer gear was snug against the side of the transmission casing opposite where the bearing enters the transmission case when installed. This is definitely not the case with the overdrive speedo gear. There is a good 3/16 of play in the speedo gear when installed, even when the bearing housing pushed in past where securing bolt depression in the bearing is. I'm baffled, the overdrive transmission speedometer ran perfectly for 6 years until this failure. As far as I can determine there is no spacer or thrust washer that should be in the transmission casing or on the speedometer gear. What Am I missing here? Thanks in advance for your help. Bob Rochlin'72 TR6 _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Fri Jun 26 18:44:50 2009 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:44:50 -0400 Subject: [6pack] TR Bike Rack Message-ID: <363B0BD6F01546B7B2E40716E0D44AF9@BOBSNEWPC> I just finished making up a bike rack to fit on my TR6 but it would probably also work on any LBC with a luggage rack and a solid mounting point. It easily holds two bikes in an upright position. You can see it all here http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/BikeRack.htm Bob Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org From r_rochlin at hotmail.com Sat Jun 27 10:29:10 2009 From: r_rochlin at hotmail.com (Bob Rochlin) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:29:10 +0000 Subject: [6pack] speedometer drive Message-ID: Hi List, I figured out the problem with my speedometer pinion gear. I recalled that the guy who sold me the O/D told me that the rear case on my overdrive came from and Austin Healy 3000. It is apparently the same as an A type in in every respect except, wait for it, the speedometer pinion. Apparently the speedometer pinion is longer on an AH 3000 O/D. I was able to get things working by machining (read grinding) off a little bit of the pinion bearing carrier so I could set the bearing carrier about a 1/4 inch deeper into the O/D housing allowing the pinion to be engaged by the angle drive. The hole for the bolt retainer doesn't line up, but small price to pay to get the bits to fit. What I can't figure out is why it worked so well for 6 years the way it was... BTW my first thought was to get AH parts to get things right. Not only is the pinion gear not available form Moss, but the angle drive for the O/D is $275.00 as compared to $43.00 for the Triumph part. Take care. Bob Rochlin '72 Tr6 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has ever-growing storage! Dont worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial _Storage_062009 From Vsnively at aol.com Sat Jun 27 14:33:00 2009 From: Vsnively at aol.com (Vsnively at aol.com) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:33:00 EDT Subject: [6pack] Ignition Puzzler Message-ID: Listers, The 6 experienced some poor start conditions a couple weeks ago, I found no points gap. Replaced points and condensor, fired right up, ran like a champ. Today, it wouldn't stay running after an extremely hard start, replaced the condensor only, runs like a champ. In the last couple thousand miles I performed an extensive ignition tune-up and replaced fuel pump, air and fuel filters. The coil may be original to the car. It's at least (10) years old. The car is driven 1500-2000 miles / year. What would be causing condensors to fail ? Thanks in advance for any help. Regards, Vic Snively '75 TR6 w/AC **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000006) From tpdwinch at yahoo.com Sat Jun 27 15:33:12 2009 From: tpdwinch at yahoo.com (Dale) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Ignition Puzzler In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <920220.37869.qm@web36105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Vic I bought a brand new 69 Camaro, still which I had that car, and never got it home before it was missing to beat the band. Dealer put in new point and away I went. Before getting home the problem was back. This time they replaced the condensor and new points. Ran great from then on out. Even new parts are bad. why who know. You should always carry a spare set of points and condensor just in case. With that 69 I always carried them after the problem was identified. Dale ________________________________ From: "Vsnively at aol.com" To: 6pack at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 4:33:00 PM Subject: [6pack] Ignition Puzzler Listers, The 6 experienced some poor start conditions a couple weeks ago, I found no points gap. Replaced points and condensor, fired right up, ran like a champ. Today, it wouldn't stay running after an extremely hard start, replaced the condensor only, runs like a champ. In the last couple thousand miles I performed an extensive ignition tune-up and replaced fuel pump, air and fuel filters. The coil may be original to the car. It's at least (10) years old. The car is driven 1500-2000 miles / year. What would be causing condensors to fail ? Thanks in advance for any help. Regards, Vic Snively '75 TR6 w/AC **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000006) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tpdwinch at yahoo.com From yellowtr at adelphia.net Sat Jun 27 19:12:10 2009 From: yellowtr at adelphia.net (Bob) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:12:10 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Late 72 Front Apron Question Message-ID: <200906272112.11327.yellowtr@adelphia.net> Hi, I am fixing some rust on the front apron, actually the upper part where the grill attaches. I noticed 3 separate 1.5 & .75 inch pieces of sheet metal just welded on the top of the apron on the shelf just below where the grill attaches. One in the center and the others on either side. At this point they are just rusty and seem out of place. What is the purpose of these three rectangles? Can I just grind them off smooth? Thanks, Bob From k_nachman at comcast.net Sat Jun 27 19:24:20 2009 From: k_nachman at comcast.net (Ken) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:24:20 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Baby Seat in a TR6? Message-ID: <024b01c9f78f$29e2e750$7da8b5f0$@net> Is it possible to use a toddler/baby seat in a TR6? My 2 year old grandson is begging to ride in my TR and until now I have only been able to say let's ride in my 4 door everyday car. Back in the day I used to let my 2 sons and usually one of their friends ride behind the front seats. Today I am told my grandson needs to wait until he is 9??? Ken Nachman Richmond Triumph Register 1969 TR6 2000 XK8 2006 XJ8 From bratt at sasktel.net Sat Jun 27 21:06:58 2009 From: bratt at sasktel.net (ed) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:06:58 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Baby Seat in a TR6? References: <024b01c9f78f$29e2e750$7da8b5f0$@net> Message-ID: <000601c9f79d$7ff971f0$6501a8c0@willhuq4x0qsgd> Ken: Some Americans used to call Canada, "Soviet Canuckistan", because it had become such a left leaning nanny state. I am afraid many Americans will have to eat their words.. Although seat belt laws vary provice by province (and territory) we can (must) use a rear facing child seat for children under 20 lbs; and children should ride in a front facing child seat if between 20 and 40 lbs; however, a tether strap must be used with front-facing car seats. The tether strap prevents the seat from being thrown forward or sideways in a crash. Children over 40 pounds (18 kg) must wear a seatbelt. The law does not currently require the use of a booster seat. However, a booster seat is the best way to ensure the child is travelling safely. Research shows that booster seats lower the risk of injury by 60 per cent compared to seatbelts alone. If your vehicle has only three seatbelts and you are transporting more than three adults, the fourth adult may legally ride without a belt. If one of your passengers is under 16, you must have that young person take one of the seats that is equipped with a seatbelt. Two children may be belted in a single seat belt. So, if you were here in Soviet Canuckistan, you could legally belt two children over 40 lbs into your TR6 passsenger seat. Exception: You do not have to wear a seatbelt if your vehicle was not originally equipped with them. "This exception does not apply widely since all vehicles have been manufactured with seatbelts since the early 1970s". Many emigration? Or relocation? Of course laws will vary greatly state by state. Ed Bratt Regina, Saskatchewan 1976 TR6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:24 PM Subject: [6pack] Baby Seat in a TR6? > Is it possible to use a toddler/baby seat in a TR6? My 2 year old grandson > is begging to ride in my TR and until now I have only been able to say > let's > ride in my 4 door everyday car. Back in the day I used to let my 2 sons > and > usually one of their friends ride behind the front seats. Today I am told > my > grandson needs to wait until he is 9??? > > Ken Nachman > Richmond Triumph Register > 1969 TR6 > 2000 XK8 > 2006 XJ8 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as bratt at sasktel.net From 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Sat Jun 27 21:18:18 2009 From: 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:18:18 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Baby Seat in a TR6? In-Reply-To: <024b01c9f78f$29e2e750$7da8b5f0$@net> References: <024b01c9f78f$29e2e750$7da8b5f0$@net> Message-ID: <4A46E0FA.2090206@tr6.danielsonfamily.org> The laws vary by state. My 8 year old granddaughter no longer needs a booster seat but her 4-1/2 year old brother still has to ride in a booster seat. The laws, I believe, to move from car seat to booster seat to no seat is based on age, weight and height. I wouldn't take my grandkids in the 6 when they were in a car seat.... Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org Ken wrote: > Is it possible to use a toddler/baby seat in a TR6? My 2 year old grandson > is begging to ride in my TR and until now I have only been able to say let's > ride in my 4 door everyday car. Back in the day I used to let my 2 sons and > usually one of their friends ride behind the front seats. Today I am told my > grandson needs to wait until he is 9??? > > Ken Nachman > Richmond Triumph Register > 1969 TR6 > 2000 XK8 > 2006 XJ8 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org From 70tr6 at comcast.net Sat Jun 27 21:54:14 2009 From: 70tr6 at comcast.net (Ashford Little) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:54:14 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Baby Seat in a TR6? In-Reply-To: <000601c9f79d$7ff971f0$6501a8c0@willhuq4x0qsgd> References: <024b01c9f78f$29e2e750$7da8b5f0$@net> <000601c9f79d$7ff971f0$6501a8c0@willhuq4x0qsgd> Message-ID: <61DA4B55-7755-4341-858A-8A080F8F5BE2@comcast.net> Ken, I hate to agree with my Canadian brother, but he might be right. My kids have been riding in my TR6 since they were two. They enjoy it. They have always been legal or at least as legal as a 1970 car can be. But then again if I get t-boned by an SUV neither of us will survive car seat or not. That's why I prefer rib-eye. Ashford Little 70tr6 at comcast.net On Jun 27, 2009, at 11:06 PM, ed wrote: > Ken: > > Some Americans used to call Canada, "Soviet Canuckistan", because it > had become such a left leaning nanny state. I am afraid many > Americans will have to eat their words.. Although seat belt laws > vary provice by province (and territory) we can (must) use a rear > facing child seat for children under 20 lbs; and children should > ride in a front facing child seat if between 20 and 40 lbs; however, > a tether strap must be used with front-facing car seats. The tether > strap prevents the seat from being thrown forward or sideways in a > crash. > > Children over 40 pounds (18 kg) must wear a seatbelt. The law does > not currently require the use of a booster seat. However, a booster > seat is the best way to ensure the child is travelling safely. > Research shows that booster seats lower the risk of injury by 60 per > cent compared to seatbelts alone. > > If your vehicle has only three seatbelts and you are transporting > more than three adults, the fourth adult may legally ride without a > belt. If one of your passengers is under 16, you must have that > young person take one of the seats that is equipped with a > seatbelt. Two children may be belted in a single seat belt. > > So, if you were here in Soviet Canuckistan, you could legally belt > two children over 40 lbs into your TR6 passsenger seat. > > Exception: You do not have to wear a seatbelt if your vehicle was > not originally equipped with them. "This exception does not apply > widely since all vehicles have been manufactured with seatbelts > since the early 1970s". > > Many emigration? Or relocation? Of course laws will vary greatly > state by state. From stan.foster at hp.com Sat Jun 27 21:58:17 2009 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan (HP IT)) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:58:17 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Late 72 Front Apron Question In-Reply-To: <200906272112.11327.yellowtr@adelphia.net> References: <200906272112.11327.yellowtr@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF72B1D3631753@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Bob, these sounds like the clips that engage the finishing strip that sits under the grill. It has a folded edge that engages with these three clips and the rear vertical edge is riveted to the valence at a few locations. Part number 43 "finisher" http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32870 Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 9:12 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Late 72 Front Apron Question Hi, I am fixing some rust on the front apron, actually the upper part where the grill attaches. I noticed 3 separate 1.5 & .75 inch pieces of sheet metal just welded on the top of the apron on the shelf just below where the grill attaches. One in the center and the others on either side. At this point they are just rusty and seem out of place. What is the purpose of these three rectangles? Can I just grind them off smooth? Thanks, Bob From fetnerj001 at hawaii.rr.com Sun Jun 28 00:21:54 2009 From: fetnerj001 at hawaii.rr.com (Jeff Fetner) Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:21:54 -1000 Subject: [6pack] Ignition Puzzler References: Message-ID: <9F16A106F7774E3C8B5B4588E044D925@HP> Aloha Vic, There has been a rash of bad condensers. I've had 2 new condensers fail, each with less than 200 miles on them. Can't remember who I got them from, but they were not US made. They had a black wire and were slightly smaller than the old Lucas one (orange wire) I used in the interim. I got a US-made Standard Automotive condenser from Jeff at Advance Distributors. While it also has a black wire, it is well-made and no problems in 600 miles. They have Blue Streak points as well - also made by Standard. It was almost perfectly identical to the 20-year old Blue Streak set I kept because they were excellent points. I got tired of wasting time using current poor quality new parts. Jeff 3xTR6 > Listers, > > The 6 experienced some poor start conditions a couple weeks ago, I found > no points gap. Replaced points and condensor, fired right up, ran like a > champ. Today, it wouldn't stay running after an extremely hard start, > replaced the condensor only, runs like a champ. In the last couple > thousand miles > I performed an extensive ignition tune-up and replaced fuel pump, air and > fuel filters. The coil may be original to the car. It's at least (10) > years > old. The car is driven 1500-2000 miles / year. > What would be causing condensors to fail ? > Thanks in advance for any help. > > > Regards, > Vic Snively > '75 TR6 w/AC From emanteno at gmail.com Sun Jun 28 05:22:45 2009 From: emanteno at gmail.com (Irv Korey) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:22:45 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Late 72 Front Apron Question In-Reply-To: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF72B1D3631753@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <200906272112.11327.yellowtr@adelphia.net> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF72B1D3631753@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <354a1780906280422n6998de9fkea3c39493aa90d21@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Foster, Stan (HP IT) wrote: > Bob, these sounds like the clips that engage the finishing strip that sits > under the grill. It has a folded edge that engages with these three clips > and > the rear vertical edge is riveted to the valence at a few locations. > > Part number 43 "finisher" > > http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32870 > > Stan Stan is correct. Those finishing strips were often rusted out, and/or trapped water and lead to the rusted out situation that you are fixing, Bob. Some people, including the previous owner of your car, chose not to replace them to try and prevent further rusting. Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL From mbullard at hawaii.rr.com Sun Jun 28 19:43:23 2009 From: mbullard at hawaii.rr.com (Mark) Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:43:23 -1000 Subject: [6pack] TR Bike Rack References: <363B0BD6F01546B7B2E40716E0D44AF9@BOBSNEWPC> Message-ID: Bob, You never cease to amaze me. Beautiful job. Thanks for posting. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Danielson" <75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: ; "'6-Pack'" <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: [6pack] TR Bike Rack >I just finished making up a bike rack to fit on my TR6 but it would >probably > also work on any LBC with a luggage rack and a solid mounting point. It > easily holds two bikes in an upright position. You can see it all here > http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/BikeRack.htm From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Mon Jun 29 10:01:45 2009 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:01:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Baby Seat in TR6 Message-ID: <688705.68068.qm@web65615.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I installed Miata seats & Securon seatbelts, so I know the parts are in good shape. Front facing child seat gets belted into passenger seat and tether strap is tightly knotted to the roll bar. Little guy has a blast going home from daycare! Bruce Simms 73 TR6 __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/