Thanks for all the great suggestions and keep them coming if anyone has anything else. I'll be doing some troubleshooting this evening. I should have mentioned we ruled out fuel to the carbs as the culprit. Ian Ian Breyer 872 State Street, APT 2A New Haven, CT 06511 home email: ianbreyer at yahoo.com or ianbreyer at comcast.net work email: ibreyer at hartynet.com