From im_sloane at hotmail.com Wed Jul 2 12:55:26 2008 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 18:55:26 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Clutch situation Message-ID: Gary, Just in case, I suggest that anyone practice the fine art of shifting with no clutch. Difficult to describe if you've never done it. It's easy to get the RPM matched right for upshift, a bit tricker to downshift but this isn't really necessary anyway, just showing off. (This requires a bit of a rev up at just he right point to match the lower gear) Now taking off from stopped means cutting if off and putting it in first, and start-and-go. Not easy on the starter, but better than nothing in a pinch. Technique has gotten me home plenty of times. I believe this is a common truck driver technique to save clutch wear-n-tare. Sloane :) 69-Six We continued on our way with the clutch working perfectly for> the rest of the day.> > Gary> '73> _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > 6pack at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack> > http://www.team.net/archive> > You are subscribed as im_sloane at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ The im Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld From gary.fluke at verizon.net Wed Jul 2 14:45:32 2008 From: gary.fluke at verizon.net (Gary Fluke) Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:45:32 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Clutch situation References: Message-ID: <001601c8dc84$92b469b0$4102a8c0@happycyajmv4pw> Sloane, When a teenager, I was a lot boy\detailer for a Volvo-Datsun dealer and learned how to drive all sorts of cars without using the clutch just for fun. The problem for me in the TR the other day was that I was deep in the City of Seattle and there were just too many complete stops to be made. I have flushed the clutch hydraulic system with mineral spirits and refilled it with DOT3 brake fluid. All is well. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: im sloane To: Gary Fluke ; Six Pack Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:55 AM Subject: RE: [6pack] Clutch situation Gary, Just in case, I suggest that anyone practice the fine art of shifting with no clutch. Difficult to describe if you've never done it. It's easy to get the RPM matched right for upshift, a bit tricker to downshift but this isn't really necessary anyway, just showing off. (This requires a bit of a rev up at just he right point to match the lower gear) Now taking off from stopped means cutting if off and putting it in first, and start-and-go. Not easy on the starter, but better than nothing in a pinch. Technique has gotten me home plenty of times. I believe this is a common truck driver technique to save clutch wear-n-tare. Sloane :) 69-Six We continued on our way with the clutch working perfectly for > the rest of the day. > > Gary > '73 > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as im_sloane at hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - The im Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? Find out now. From sumton at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 2 21:05:27 2008 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:05:27 -0500 Subject: [6pack] car for sale References: <2010516.1157981205524405683.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web07-z02> Message-ID: <006401c8dcb9$a9d94c70$e91f10ac@garage.local> http://www.ranteer.com/misc/ i apologize - this is totally off topic. Triumph content: if i get this car out of here i may get my TR3 back on the road!!!! From jmitch at snet.net Fri Jul 4 06:25:23 2008 From: jmitch at snet.net (John Mitchell) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:25:23 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Brake Booster Message-ID: <486E16B3.20207@snet.net> Hi, My 76 TR6 has a brake booster that measures about 7.5" in diameter. I have also seen boosters that are about 6.5" in diameter. Was more than booster type used and what would be correct for my 76. Thanks for any help. John Mitchell From rnorris1 at swbell.net Fri Jul 4 15:12:10 2008 From: rnorris1 at swbell.net (Rick Norris) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:12:10 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Brake Booster Message-ID: <486E922A.1070701@swbell.net> John, I went out and measured the booster on my '75 and it also measured approximately 71/2". I then looked at the VB catalog and they make no distinction between the size replacement booster for any year '69-'76. I would guess that 7 1/2" is the norm. Rick Norris From rpeglow at optonline.net Fri Jul 4 18:26:20 2008 From: rpeglow at optonline.net (Bob Peglow) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:26:20 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Brake Booster References: <486E922A.1070701@swbell.net> Message-ID: <000d01c8de35$bf9783b0$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> I measured my 71, and booster is 6-1/2 inches. Bob -- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Norris" To: ; "6-Pack List Serve" <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 2:12 PM Subject: [6pack] Brake Booster > John, I went out and measured the booster on my '75 and it also measured > approximately 71/2". I then looked at the VB catalog and they make no > distinction between the size replacement booster for any year '69-'76. I > would guess that 7 1/2" is the norm. > > Rick Norris > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as rpeglow at optonline.net > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10180e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10180e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ From jimhearn1 at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 00:13:11 2008 From: jimhearn1 at comcast.net (jim hearn) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:13:11 -0700 Subject: [6pack] How is the TR6 distributor actually moved In-Reply-To: <000d01c8de35$bf9783b0$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> Message-ID: <000001c8de66$34516880$b1191718@computer> Is the TR6 (74) distributor just released and then manually cranked advance or retard? I see reference to a fine adjustment. How exactly does this work? Also, which way is advance and which way is retard? Thanks, Jim From jimhearn1 at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 00:14:31 2008 From: jimhearn1 at comcast.net (jim hearn) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 23:14:31 -0700 Subject: [6pack] How is the TR6 distributor actually moved Message-ID: <000101c8de66$638266e0$b1191718@computer> Is the TR6 (74) distributor just released and then manually cranked advance or retard? I see reference to a fine adjustment. How exactly does this work? Also, which way is advance and which way is retard? Thanks, Jim From tr6taylor at webtv.net Sat Jul 5 00:42:15 2008 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 06:42:15 GMT Subject: [6pack] How is the TR6 distributor actually moved Message-ID: Jim---Only the earlier had what could be called a vernier adjustment to fine tune the distributor. Your model doesn't have this feature. The "fine" adjustment here is the single bolt that holds the distributor clamping ring to the side of the block. It's elongated and can give a few degrees of timing. If you need more adjustment to time the distributor than this slot can provide, then it will be necessary to loosen the horizontal bolt that goes thru this clamping ring. This will give you the full range. Our distributors turn counterclockwise, when the engine is running. So to advance timing, it is necessary to turn the dist. body in the clockwise direction. And VV. Dick -----Original Message----- From: jim hearn Sent: Friday, July 4, 2008 11:14 PM To: '6-Pack ListServe' Subject: [6pack] How is the TR6 distributor actually moved Is the TR6 (74) distributor just released and then manually cranked advance or retard? I see reference to a fine adjustment. How exactly does this work? Also, which way is advance and which way is retard? Thanks, Jim 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net From jimhearn1 at comcast.net Sat Jul 5 11:49:13 2008 From: jimhearn1 at comcast.net (jim hearn) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 10:49:13 -0700 Subject: [6pack] How is the TR6 distributor actually moved In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c8dec7$6fff9c60$b1191718@computer> So, I hate to be slow on this but if my distributor is set pretty good now and I just want enough movement to fine tune it, do I loosen the vertical bolt or the horizontal clamp to get the limited movement? Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Sally or Dick Taylor [mailto:tr6taylor at webtv.net] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 11:42 PM To: jim hearn; '6-Pack ListServe' Subject: Re: [6pack] How is the TR6 distributor actually moved Jim---Only the earlier had what could be called a vernier adjustment to fine tune the distributor. Your model doesn't have this feature. The "fine" adjustment here is the single bolt that holds the distributor clamping ring to the side of the block. It's elongated and can give a few degrees of timing. If you need more adjustment to time the distributor than this slot can provide, then it will be necessary to loosen the horizontal bolt that goes thru this clamping ring. This will give you the full range. Our distributors turn counterclockwise, when the engine is running. So to advance timing, it is necessary to turn the dist. body in the clockwise direction. And VV. Dick -----Original Message----- From: jim hearn Sent: Friday, July 4, 2008 11:14 PM To: '6-Pack ListServe' Subject: [6pack] How is the TR6 distributor actually moved Is the TR6 (74) distributor just released and then manually cranked advance or retard? I see reference to a fine adjustment. How exactly does this work? Also, which way is advance and which way is retard? Thanks, Jim 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net From stan.foster at hp.com Sat Jul 5 12:24:26 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:24:26 +0000 Subject: [6pack] How is the TR6 distributor actually moved In-Reply-To: <000001c8dec7$6fff9c60$b1191718@computer> References: <000001c8dec7$6fff9c60$b1191718@computer> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF723CBAA13070@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> You could start with the vertical bolt and if that doesn't give you what you need, slacken the clamp and rotate the dizzy body. In reality there isn't much difference between the amount of work or tools required in either approach and in general I would just slacken the clamp and rotate the dizzy as required. Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jim hearn Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 1:49 PM To: 'Sally or Dick Taylor'; '6-Pack ListServe' Subject: Re: [6pack] How is the TR6 distributor actually moved So, I hate to be slow on this but if my distributor is set pretty good now and I just want enough movement to fine tune it, do I loosen the vertical bolt or the horizontal clamp to get the limited movement? Thanks From stan.foster at hp.com Sat Jul 5 15:39:09 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 21:39:09 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF723CBAA13073@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> My understanding of the 74.5 carbon canister was that it pulled vapor from the fuel tank and the Stromberg float chambers and the valve cover and used the carbon canister as a vapor sink. Having recently removed the Strombergs and replaced them with 3xdcoe Webers I'm wondering what to do with the valve cover vent. I had initially thought that I could just plug it into the top of the carbon canister but I'm having second thoughts and beginning to wonder if I have not fully understood the original setup correctly as it would make more sense for fumes to get sucked into the intake path and combusted otherwise that carbon canister would quickly become saturated. How did the original 74.5 system work, and for anyone that has done the 3xdcoe conversion, what did you do for the valve cover vent ?. I imagine the supercharger conversion begs the same question. Stan From lfm614 at aol.com Sat Jul 5 17:18:30 2008 From: lfm614 at aol.com (lfm614 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 23:18:30 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced Message-ID: <1900388894-1215299915-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1899176247-@bxe005.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Stan, Have a 72 so don't know the particulars to the 74.5. But on mine the CC takes the fumes from the crankcase, carbs & fuel tank when the car is switched off and holds them. When the car starts, vacuum from the carb port sucks the vapors from the CC into the manifold for burning. Lou ------Original Message------ From: Foster, Stan Sender: 6pack-bounces+lfm614=aol.com at autox.team.net To: TR-6 list Sent: Jul 5, 2008 4:39 PM Subject: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced My understanding of the 74.5 carbon canister was that it pulled vapor from the fuel tank and the Stromberg float chambers and the valve cover and used the carbon canister as a vapor sink. Having recently removed the Strombergs and replaced them with 3xdcoe Webers I'm wondering what to do with the valve cover vent. I had initially thought that I could just plug it into the top of the carbon canister but I'm having second thoughts and beginning to wonder if I have not fully understood the original setup correctly as it would make more sense for fumes to get sucked into the intake path and combusted otherwise that carbon canister would quickly become saturated. How did the original 74.5 system work, and for anyone that has done the 3xdcoe conversion, what did you do for the valve cover vent ?. I imagine the supercharger conversion begs the same question. Stan _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as lfm614 at aol.com From rpeglow at optonline.net Sat Jul 5 20:24:03 2008 From: rpeglow at optonline.net (Bob Peglow) Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:24:03 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced References: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF723CBAA13073@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <006101c8df0f$5b8d0090$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> Stan, I always believed the vent connections on the Strombergs pulled in the crankcase fumes when the engine was running. When not running the fumes settled in the charcoal in the tank...to be pulled in the next time the engine is running. The greater list knows more than I do. I am interested as well since PO removed connections from my Strombergs. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Foster, Stan" To: "'6-Pack ListServe'" <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 2:39 PM Subject: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced > My understanding of the 74.5 carbon canister was that it pulled vapor from the > fuel tank and the Stromberg float chambers and the valve cover and used the > carbon canister as a vapor sink. > > Having recently removed the Strombergs and replaced them with 3xdcoe Webers > I'm wondering what to do with the valve cover vent. I had initially thought > that I could just plug it into the top of the carbon canister but I'm having > second thoughts and beginning to wonder if I have not fully understood the > original setup correctly as it would make more sense for fumes to get sucked > into the intake path and combusted otherwise that carbon canister would > quickly become saturated. > > How did the original 74.5 system work, and for anyone that has done the 3xdcoe > conversion, what did you do for the valve cover vent ?. I imagine the > supercharger conversion begs the same question. > > Stan > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as rpeglow at optonline.net > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10180e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10180e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ From triosan at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 12:00:17 2008 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:00:17 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Car for rent in NE for Weekend of Watkins Glenn Grand Prix? Message-ID: <8cbd782d0807071100qdb2e4eel338944614dbe398e@mail.gmail.com> My wife and I will be attending the Vintage Grand Prix and Kastner Cup Triumph race in Watkins Glenn on Sept 7-9. We are flying in to somewhere in NY from Seattle. It would be really cool if we could rent a Triumph from some member for that time frame? Would insure it of course. Does anyone have a suggestion or a suitable car they might consider renting out to a TR6 street and race car owner who can only attend this event as a spectator? Thanks, -- Chuck Arnold From tr6 at pobox.com Mon Jul 7 12:30:43 2008 From: tr6 at pobox.com (Mark Steph) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:30:43 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Car for rent in NE for Weekend of Watkins Glenn Grand Prix? In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0807071100qdb2e4eel338944614dbe398e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8cbd782d0807071100qdb2e4eel338944614dbe398e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <487260D3.6080901@pobox.com> Isnt that sort of like asking to rent someone's wife? :) Chuck Arnold wrote: > My wife and I will be attending the Vintage Grand Prix and Kastner Cup > Triumph race in Watkins Glenn on Sept 7-9. We are flying in to somewhere in > NY from Seattle. It would be really cool if we could rent a Triumph from > some member for that time frame? Would insure it of course. Does anyone > have a suggestion or a suitable car they might consider renting out to a TR6 > street and race car owner who can only attend this event as a spectator? > > Thanks,-- -- http://SporkInTheEye.blogspot.com -- When we lift the covers from our feelings We expose our insecure spots Trust is just as rare as devotion-- Forgive us our cynical thoughts If we need too much attention-- Not content with being cool We must throw ourselves wide open And start acting like a fool If we need too much approval Then the cuts can seem too cruel Neil Peart, "Emotion Detector", Power Windows (1985) From stan.foster at hp.com Mon Jul 7 12:37:53 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:37:53 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Car for rent in NE for Weekend of Watkins Glenn Grand Prix? In-Reply-To: <8cbd782d0807071100qdb2e4eel338944614dbe398e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8cbd782d0807071100qdb2e4eel338944614dbe398e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9ADB0@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Chuck, for around $5k for a long weekend you can rent one of these, they are kind of like a TR6. Well it is red anyway.. http://www.gothamdreamcars.com/new-york-city/ferrari-F430-spider-rental.htm Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 2:00 PM To: Friends; Triumph Subject: [6pack] Car for rent in NE for Weekend of Watkins Glenn Grand Prix? My wife and I will be attending the Vintage Grand Prix and Kastner Cup Triumph race in Watkins Glenn on Sept 7-9. We are flying in to somewhere in NY from Seattle. It would be really cool if we could rent a Triumph from some member for that time frame? Would insure it of course. Does anyone have a suggestion or a suitable car they might consider renting out to a TR6 street and race car owner who can only attend this event as a spectator? Thanks, -- Chuck Arnold From triosan at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 12:55:25 2008 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:55:25 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Car for rent in NE for Weekend of Watkins Glenn Grand Prix? In-Reply-To: <487260D3.6080901@pobox.com> References: <8cbd782d0807071100qdb2e4eel338944614dbe398e@mail.gmail.com> <487260D3.6080901@pobox.com> Message-ID: <8cbd782d0807071155l19f94a33n4e6cb9d8bbd4a662@mail.gmail.com> No, much more like renting my mistress. I might consider renting my TR, but my wife???? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Mark Steph wrote: > Isnt that sort of like asking to rent someone's wife? > :) > > Chuck Arnold wrote: > > My wife and I will be attending the Vintage Grand Prix and Kastner Cup > > Triumph race in Watkins Glenn on Sept 7-9. We are flying in to somewhere > in > > NY from Seattle. It would be really cool if we could rent a Triumph from > > some member for that time frame? Would insure it of course. Does anyone > > have a suggestion or a suitable car they might consider renting out to a > TR6 > > street and race car owner who can only attend this event as a spectator? > > > > Thanks,-- > > -- > http://SporkInTheEye.blogspot.com > -- > When we lift the covers from our feelings > We expose our insecure spots > Trust is just as rare as devotion-- > Forgive us our cynical thoughts > If we need too much attention-- > Not content with being cool > We must throw ourselves wide open > And start acting like a fool > If we need too much approval > Then the cuts can seem too cruel > Neil Peart, "Emotion Detector", Power Windows (1985) > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as triosan at gmail.com > -- Chuck Arnold From gaf3 at charter.net Mon Jul 7 16:17:50 2008 From: gaf3 at charter.net (Glenn Franco) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:17:50 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Empty Trailer or Car Dolly Available Phoenix to Ann Arbor, Michigan Week of July 14th. Message-ID: <4872960E.9070909@charter.net> I'm moving my daughter from Michigan to Phoenix next week towing her car either with a tow dolly or on an open car trailer. I will be empty on the return trip. If anyone wants a car (small) towed back to Michigan from out west please contact me ASAP. Or if anyone would like to donate (or sell cheap) a nice rust free LBC to me I will give it a good home back in Michigan. Cost would be gas expense on return trip (negotiable). Please advise if you are interested Thanks Glenn Franco 72 Spit racer project three TR6's, TR250 and a Spit From 75teer6 at gmail.com Mon Jul 7 16:56:51 2008 From: 75teer6 at gmail.com (Henri Lefebvre) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 16:56:51 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced In-Reply-To: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF723CBAA13073@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF723CBAA13073@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <83dfea6b0807071556k72a7988i65150bfd1414dd6a@mail.gmail.com> Stan, I will reply about the venting on my triple Webers this evening. Question: On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Foster, Stan wrote: > My understanding of the 74.5 carbon canister was that it pulled vapor from the > fuel tank and the Stromberg float chambers and the valve cover and used the > carbon canister as a vapor sink. > > Having recently removed the Strombergs and replaced them with 3xdcoe Webers > I'm wondering what to do with the valve cover vent. I had initially thought > that I could just plug it into the top of the carbon canister but I'm having > second thoughts and beginning to wonder if I have not fully understood the > original setup correctly as it would make more sense for fumes to get sucked > into the intake path and combusted otherwise that carbon canister would > quickly become saturated. > > How did the original 74.5 system work, and for anyone that has done the 3xdcoe > conversion, what did you do for the valve cover vent ?. I imagine the > supercharger conversion begs the same question. > > Stan > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as 75teer6 at gmail.com From stan.foster at hp.com Tue Jul 8 08:39:51 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:39:51 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced In-Reply-To: <83dfea6b0807080719w45a0d66fj660043a173ffff1f@mail.gmail.com> References: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF723CBAA13073@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807071556k72a7988i65150bfd1414dd6a@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9AE85@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807080719w45a0d66fj660043a173ffff1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9AFA9@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Thanks Henri, a picture would be very helpful. If you don't have somewhere to publish it you can email it to me as an attachments and I'll put it up on Photobucket. It sounds like you have an elaborate system and that it is passive, by that I mean it does not create negative pressure in the crankcase to actively reduce pressure and extract vapor but it efficiently captures anything that the valve cover spits out and is designed to suck anything smelly back into the carbs via your vertical tubes. Is that a correct assessment ? Just curious, what does the stuff that you capture in the bottle look like (color, consistency). I have a purpose in asking that question as I was surprised to see what is coming out of the rubber hose I attached to my valve cover after the Weber installation.. Stan -----Original Message----- From: Henri Lefebvre [mailto:75teer6 at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 10:20 AM To: Foster, Stan Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced Stan, The set-up on my triple Webers is: 1 - stock carbon filter with fuel tank breather line; the anti-run-on system is not connected. 2 - catch tank mounted behind the right side headlight; I used a radiator overflow bottle; 3 - the valve cover breather is piped into the body of the bottle, to catch the water and oil condensation from the valve cover. 4 - a =" breather pipe between the top/cap of the bottle to the carburetors' air filters. The pipe runs under the triple K&N air filters. There is a "T" fitting between the front and middle air filters and an "L" fitting between the middle and rear air filter. >From the T and L fittings there is a short pipe, about 3", that is vertical and tucked in between the air filters. These two short pipes are blocked at the end and each have two slits about <" wide and 1 =" long which face the air filters. The slits allow the noxious vapours to be pulled into the air filters from the bottle, with a passive suction from the air filters. The pipe running under the air filters is held in place with plastic twist-ties attached the air filters clamps. I plan to add one more pipe from the carbon filter to a "T" inserted into the pipe running from the valve cover to the bottle; that pipe would allow some fumes to be pulled from the carbon filter to the air filters. Overall it looks very neat and almost original because I used period components I am open to learn about improvements. In particular I would like to find a way to use the anti-run-on valve; my engine tends to 'diesel' when I turn it off. If you want further details or photos please e-mail me. Henri 75 TR6, triple webers From triosan at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 09:23:46 2008 From: triosan at gmail.com (Chuck Arnold) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:23:46 -0700 Subject: [6pack] need to "borrow" a part Message-ID: <8cbd782d0807080823s3a589f26o3a83be95cea5c34c@mail.gmail.com> For the PI metering unit: I broke the fitting that the return line screws into [over torqued it and broke the piece off inside the unit, but have gotten the broken piece out]. Does anyone have one I could get by Friday mail so I can install this weekend? I will get a replacment out of England to return to you. Thanks -- Chuck Arnold 2420 Westlake Ave N Seattle, Wa 98109 425-241-0457 From michael-sondergard at uiowa.edu Tue Jul 8 12:10:38 2008 From: michael-sondergard at uiowa.edu (Sondergard, Michael L.) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:10:38 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Rear differential parts question Message-ID: <7CDCBE01C930F84DB1B70C4ED06BD91403991F3A@HC-MAIL11.healthcare.uiowa.edu> Greetings. My 1973 Triumph TR6 has messy leakage in the area of the rear differential. Both rear axle seals probably need replacement. I am inclined to authorize a mechanic to do the repairs but wonder if there are basic parts (seals or gaskets, for instance) that ought to be ordered in advance. Is there a kit for such a thing? Thank you for whatever advice you may offer. Mike (personally high and dry in flooded Iowa) Notice: This UI Health Care e-mail (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, then delete it. Thank you. From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Jul 8 12:43:14 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Rear differential parts question In-Reply-To: <7CDCBE01C930F84DB1B70C4ED06BD91403991F3A@HC-MAIL11.healthcare.uiowa.edu> References: <7CDCBE01C930F84DB1B70C4ED06BD91403991F3A@HC-MAIL11.healthcare.uiowa.edu> Message-ID: Hi, If your diff is leaking, take two minutes to make sure that the vent is not blocked. A lot of times, the vent area gets caked with "stuff" and the pumpkin cannot vent. The pressure builds and oil leaks _everywhere it can_. Diffs run H-O-T. If the vent is not caked, then you should replace the stub axle seals and while you have the unit out, replace the front seal (aka the pinion seal). Also, while it's out, drill out the bottom of the case for a 1/8 or 1/4 NPT drain plug so you can drain the oil w/o having to remove the diff. If you crack the case open, you'll need the rear cover gasket too. There's no gasket between the axle stubs and the case. Note: the axle seals are a Royal PITA to do. The axles stub to drive flange is a taper joint with key. These things pretty much weld themselves together in some cases and they will not come apart except with Great Effort. Do do this "right", you need a special tool OR you need to fabricate a plate (1/2 mild steel, min thickness). Bolt the flange to the plate with grade 8 bolts and torque them. Then place the whole thing in a press (20 - 30 tonne) and start pumping. Once you get 20 tonne or so, try "shocking" the joint with a hammer. If no go, pump it up some more and repeat. Some folks use heat, if you do, don't use a lot or you wreck the temper of the axle - you DO NOT want to do that. Note that in some cases you get the parts to separate, but if you crack test the axle stub or the flange you will find that the parts are junk. But you should def. crack test while it's apart. Also note that some early cars use a dinky 1/4" key. These are not suitable for heavy usage. The later ones are 3/8" keys. You want those. This is really a job for a pro or someone that's done the job before. It's really easy to wreck the flange, the axle, the sealing flange or the Whole Shebang. There are ways to change the seal w/o taking the axle/glange apart, but I do not recommend doing that as the result is an axle stub that will pull out if the outer axle separates from the car. Like I said - this is a job for a pro. A pro with the proper tools. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Jul 8 12:54:29 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Rear differential parts question In-Reply-To: <7CDCBE01C930F84DB1B70C4ED06BD91403991F77@HC-MAIL11.healthcare.uiowa.edu> References: <7CDCBE01C930F84DB1B70C4ED06BD91403991F3A@HC-MAIL11.healthcare.uiowa.edu> <7CDCBE01C930F84DB1B70C4ED06BD91403991F77@HC-MAIL11.healthcare.uiowa.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Sondergard, Michael L. wrote: > Thank you Robert! That's the type of information I was looking for. > Frankly, it makes me wonder if I shouldn't just live with the leaks > (after making sure the vent is not caked, of course). Again, many > thanks. > Mike Some of us live with "constant-refresh" oil in the tranny and diff. :-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Jul 8 13:35:23 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Rear differential parts question In-Reply-To: <7CDCBE01C930F84DB1B70C4ED06BD91403991FC3@HC-MAIL11.healthcare.uiowa.edu> References: <7CDCBE01C930F84DB1B70C4ED06BD91403991F3A@HC-MAIL11.healthcare.uiowa.edu> <7CDCBE01C930F84DB1B70C4ED06BD91403991FC3@HC-MAIL11.healthcare.uiowa.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Sondergard, Michael L. wrote: > Robert: Again, many thanks and another question. Does the differential > HAVE to be pulled to do the drain plug install? No. You can drill the case in situ. However, you need to take precautions that you do not introduce any metal "swarf" into the diff. The easiest way to do that is to liberally coat the drill bit (and the tap when you go to use that) with heavy wheel bearing grease (or beeswax or anything sticky) so the chips don't go flying. There's a "flat" on the case where you can get the drill started and the case drills pretty easily. Just work slowly and keep checking the progress of the hole as you work. About the hardest part of that job is getting the car up off the ground high enough to get leverage on the electric drill. But the job is a lot easier to do on the bench (if you already have the diff out). > Mike rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From 75teer6 at gmail.com Tue Jul 8 14:45:24 2008 From: 75teer6 at gmail.com (Henri Lefebvre) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 14:45:24 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced In-Reply-To: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9B0AA@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF723CBAA13073@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807071556k72a7988i65150bfd1414dd6a@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9AE85@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807080719w45a0d66fj660043a173ffff1f@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9AFA9@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807080808q3463c7b6r2ec572b086391606@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9B05B@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807081209x389fe827td735f5ed7543a656@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9B0AA@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <83dfea6b0807081345u9f04c63k4add177998faaa83@mail.gmail.com> Stan, I will begin with a disclaimer! I live at 3,500' altitude, and often drive in the Rockies at up to 5,000'. When I bought the car, the previous owner had installed the Webers but never adjusted to our altitude. The carbs were rebuilt and adjusted in 2001 and my recollection is that the current jets are 2 sizes smaller than the original sea level jets. At this time I do not recall the size of the jets or air tubes. I will check when I have a moment. On the chassis dyno the the engine runs at near optimum air/fuel ratio. At this time the only issue I have is that the engine stumbles and bucks when I drive on rough roads. I have not yet found the cause. The next steps to try to solve this issue are: 1 - Check for possible electrical problems; 2 - Check/adjust fuel pressure; 3 - Change float valves, again; 4 - Change throttle from TR6 rods to cable; Suggestions??? Henri On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Foster, Stan wrote: > Thanks Henri, that looks like a good solution. I wonder if you would also mind sharing your Weber jetting info ?. I'm quite new to these carbs and while my engine runs fairly well it has a few issues like hesitation coming off idle and I'm curious to understand how other people have set theirs up and how it is working out for them. > > Good luck with breakfast... > > Stan From stan.foster at hp.com Tue Jul 8 15:00:46 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:00:46 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced In-Reply-To: <83dfea6b0807081345u9f04c63k4add177998faaa83@mail.gmail.com> References: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF723CBAA13073@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807071556k72a7988i65150bfd1414dd6a@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9AE85@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807080719w45a0d66fj660043a173ffff1f@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9AFA9@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807080808q3463c7b6r2ec572b086391606@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9B05B@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807081209x389fe827td735f5ed7543a656@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9B0AA@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807081345u9f04c63k4add177998faaa83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9B0D5@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Hi Henri, I was just chatting with Bob Lang about this rough road problem the other day and one thing we talked about in addition to your list was the linkage. I have a Cannon manifold and linkage. I would say the manifold is adequate and the linkage leaves a lot to be desired. One thing you could try as an experiment is install a fairly strong spring as a supplemental throttle return just in case the thrashing is due to the linkage bouncing around. I know on mine that it takes very little movement on the linkage to create a significant change in the throttles. I have a rod and bell crank arrangement and could add a second spring between the vertical arm of the crank and the engine mount for example. FYI correct throttle configuration and return has been one of my ongoing "issues". No problem re the jetting, I imagine there will be a lot of difference between your settings and mine at approx 5 feet above sea level.. Stan -----Original Message----- From: Henri Lefebvre [mailto:75teer6 at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:45 PM To: Foster, Stan Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced Stan, I will begin with a disclaimer! I live at 3,500' altitude, and often drive in the Rockies at up to 5,000'. When I bought the car, the previous owner had installed the Webers but never adjusted to our altitude. The carbs were rebuilt and adjusted in 2001 and my recollection is that the current jets are 2 sizes smaller than the original sea level jets. At this time I do not recall the size of the jets or air tubes. I will check when I have a moment. On the chassis dyno the the engine runs at near optimum air/fuel ratio. At this time the only issue I have is that the engine stumbles and bucks when I drive on rough roads. I have not yet found the cause. The next steps to try to solve this issue are: 1 - Check for possible electrical problems; 2 - Check/adjust fuel pressure; 3 - Change float valves, again; 4 - Change throttle from TR6 rods to cable; Suggestions??? Henri From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Jul 8 15:03:48 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 17:03:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Crankase breather strategy when Strombergs are replaced In-Reply-To: <83dfea6b0807081345u9f04c63k4add177998faaa83@mail.gmail.com> References: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF723CBAA13073@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807071556k72a7988i65150bfd1414dd6a@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9AE85@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807080719w45a0d66fj660043a173ffff1f@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9AFA9@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807080808q3463c7b6r2ec572b086391606@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9B05B@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807081209x389fe827td735f5ed7543a656@mail.gmail.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9B0AA@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> <83dfea6b0807081345u9f04c63k4add177998faaa83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Henri Lefebvre wrote: > Stan, {stuff deleted} > At this time the only issue I have is that the engine stumbles and > bucks when I drive on rough roads. I have not yet found the cause. The > next steps to try to solve this issue are: > 1 - Check for possible electrical problems; > 2 - Check/adjust fuel pressure; > 3 - Change float valves, again; > 4 - Change throttle from TR6 rods to cable; I know this problem well. It turns out that the extra linkage mass is the problem. When you hit the bumps, the throttle linkage moves up down - and the down motion is like tapping the gas with your foot only with a shorter period. The fix was EASY. First off, we assume that you have the stock firewall linkage and then you run a rod to a bell crank under the Webers and then a rod comes up to the carb cross linkage. If that description is true, then you can do one of two things. The least obvious fix is to replace the return spring on the firewall with something a bit heavier than the stock piece. I pulled my stock spring off and went to the hardware store and found something that was almost the same dimensions but the wire was heavier. This spring is a LOT more beefy than the stock piece. Install the beefy spring in place of the stock one and you're all set. Some folks try hooking springs from the valve cover hold-down nuts to the linkage arms, but this looks crappy and (interestingly) doesn't work all that well. But putting that spring it totally fixed the problem. > Suggestions??? You just got 'em. But going to a cable will also work. Me - I like the solid linkage setup because it makes me feel like I can un-stick the linkage by getting my toe under the accelerator pedal and pulling. Of course, I HAVE had the linkage stick (the firewall bell crank over centered) in the past and it was a very, very hairy experience. I tried to unstick it to no avail and turned the ignition off. In the 1 -2 seconds that it took to realize, attempt a fix and then shut the car off, I was up to about 55 mph (well over 5500 in second), I had travelled nearly the entire width of the parking lot we were autocrossing at. But I managed to stop the car without hitting anything. I was pretty scared, though. That's when I came to understand the accelerator pedal stop on the firewall. :-) > Henri regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rocketvdo at hotmail.com Tue Jul 8 18:19:56 2008 From: rocketvdo at hotmail.com (Ron) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 19:19:56 -0500 Subject: [6pack] 1973 TR6 voltage regulator Message-ID: Hello list.... I purchased a new one (voltage regulator) from BPNorthwest but still did not solve my problem with fuel/temp gauge, where is the fuse? that would handle them. Also the old one (original) had moisture in it and looked like rust over the wires slowly went bad 1973 TR6 positive ground Thanks, Ron _________________________________________________________________ Its a talkathon  but its not just talk. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk From stan.foster at hp.com Tue Jul 8 18:37:50 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 00:37:50 +0000 Subject: [6pack] 1973 TR6 voltage regulator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9B11C@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Ron, the instruments are on the green circuit. If that fuse is gone the wipers and heater fan amongst other things would also not be working. If those are working I would go back to the wiring around the voltage stabilizer or suspect the replacement voltage stabilizer or a bad/missing ground. > 1973 TR6 positive ground Now that would be quite unusual. Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 8:20 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] 1973 TR6 voltage regulator Hello list.... I purchased a new one (voltage regulator) from BPNorthwest but still did not solve my problem with fuel/temp gauge, where is the fuse? that would handle them. Also the old one (original) had moisture in it and looked like rust over the wires slowly went bad 1973 TR6 positive ground Thanks, Ron _________________________________________________________________ From sumton at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 8 20:42:04 2008 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 21:42:04 -0500 Subject: [6pack] 1973 TR6 voltage regulator References: Message-ID: <002b01c8e16f$1076cde0$7d15a8c0@garage.local> am i the only one who thought positive ground went out in the 60's?? they made positive ground TR6's???? 1973???? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 7:19 PM Subject: [6pack] 1973 TR6 voltage regulator > Hello list.... > > I purchased a new one (voltage regulator) from BPNorthwest but still did > not > solve my problem with fuel/temp gauge, where is the fuse? that would > handle > them. > Also the old one (original) had moisture in it and looked like rust over > the > wires slowly went bad > 1973 TR6 positive ground > Thanks, > Ron From William.Couzelis at CNA.com Wed Jul 9 12:09:50 2008 From: William.Couzelis at CNA.com (Couzelis,William M.) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 13:09:50 -0500 Subject: [6pack] '71 TR6 Alternator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would like to upgrade my original alternator with a higher output (43-45 Amp), but I hear it requires some wiring modifications. Can anyone suggest an alternator alternative and give some help on the wiring conversion? Thanks to the list, Bill Couzelis '71 TR6 E-MAIL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The contents of this e-mail message and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message and any attachments. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or storage of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. From forzion at maine.rr.com Wed Jul 9 12:12:49 2008 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (David Friedlander) Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:12:49 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Securon Belt Install question Message-ID: <4874FFA1.2030106@maine.rr.com> Hey List! Anyone else out there installed the Securon 500/30 seat belts lately? How did you attach the stalk portion of the setup to the floor? Since the mounting hole for the stalk portion is through the floor behind each seat and the bolt/connector-end of the stalk has a flat hole in the same plane as the stalk receptacle, did you twist the stalk to have it face the right way and bolt it directly to the floor or did you use the L-shaped bracket supplied, bolting the stalks to the bracket and then the bracket to the floor? Hope that makes sense. Thanks for any responses, Dave '74-Six From stan.foster at hp.com Wed Jul 9 12:20:13 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:20:13 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Securon Belt Install question In-Reply-To: <4874FFA1.2030106@maine.rr.com> References: <4874FFA1.2030106@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9B2C7@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Dave, most of these aftermarket belt stalks need the bracket to function correctly and that is what I did for the Securon and for the belts that I just replaced them with. There should be just enough clearance for the nut to go on the bolt without hitting the tranny tunnel. If yours are like my old Securon, the stalks are not that long to start with and I'm not convinced that bending them would be successful anyway. Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Friedlander Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:13 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Securon Belt Install question Hey List! Anyone else out there installed the Securon 500/30 seat belts lately? How did you attach the stalk portion of the setup to the floor? Since the mounting hole for the stalk portion is through the floor behind each seat and the bolt/connector-end of the stalk has a flat hole in the same plane as the stalk receptacle, did you twist the stalk to have it face the right way and bolt it directly to the floor or did you use the L-shaped bracket supplied, bolting the stalks to the bracket and then the bracket to the floor? Hope that makes sense. Thanks for any responses, Dave '74-Six From stan.foster at hp.com Wed Jul 9 12:26:48 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:26:48 +0000 Subject: [6pack] '71 TR6 Alternator In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF7240A3D9B2CA@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Bill, there are several options including going to a later year TR6 alternator which I think had a higher output than the early models. I just replaced my 74.5 alternator with a Bosch 55A unit ($110 from AutoZone, ex Ford Fiesta). It is pretty much a drop in fit although I had to source a 1/2 inch V pulley from the local alternator shop ($10) and move to a 45.5inch belt but mechanically and electrically it is identical down to the Lucas plug at the rear. My Bosch alternator has its own voltage sense function built in so I omitted to connect that wire and just insulated it and tucked it away. There are other minor details that I wont bore everyone with now but I would be happy to share if you decided to do down this path. Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Couzelis,William M. Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:10 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] '71 TR6 Alternator I would like to upgrade my original alternator with a higher output (43-45 Amp), but I hear it requires some wiring modifications. Can anyone suggest an alternator alternative and give some help on the wiring conversion? Thanks to the list, Bill Couzelis '71 TR6 From nosto53 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 10 11:36:32 2008 From: nosto53 at yahoo.com (richard olson) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Hardtop work? Message-ID: <580889.61772.qm@web37502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I bought my hardtop in 2005. Now I want to fix it and put it in my TR6. But....my TR6 is blue and the hardtop is...RED! (NO - I can't paint in blue/red/white for British on the top.) First - I painted my TR6 in 2001 and will get the same paint (Glasturit BC/CC) in Delft. Second - The headliner is tan and new (no rips/rotted). I have all the new small 'bits' (bolts,nuts). My glass is great and my chrome is 'OK' Q1: I plan to use "soda bicar" with my blaster so I can get the outside cleared but how can I keep the headliner good? Can I use tape and newspaper ( or 'pro' paper) ? Is the OK? Q2: There are a inner and outside gaskets for the glass. My headliners gasket are good. Can I get the outside gaskets on, tape/paper,and blaster with the old red paint to metal? Thank you, RickO From lang at isis.mit.edu Thu Jul 10 11:44:01 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:44:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Hardtop work? In-Reply-To: <580889.61772.qm@web37502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <580889.61772.qm@web37502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi, The hardtop sounds to be in good condition (other than the color mis-match). If you tear the thing down to paint it "properly", you'll probably break or ruin some part that's made from "unobtainium". At any rate, if I was in your shoes, I'd opt to lightly sand the top and then mask and paint it to match your car. A good paint job would be able to hide the underlying colors... Just my $.02. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From triumph at 2simpleusa.com Thu Jul 10 17:47:20 2008 From: triumph at 2simpleusa.com (triumph at 2simpleusa.com) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:47:20 -0500 Subject: [6pack] [TR] hub pullers Message-ID: <20080710234720.27340.qmail@s465.sureserver.com> Hi Ted, Apart from the original prototype, I don't have any pullers left .. they were all built to order at the time. I'm not sure if you knew that the hubs were produced at my local Career Tech Center by the students as a project, which made them pretty affordable ... the instructor has now moved and the program no longer does any kind of production work, so I can't help on that front any longer. I did come across a posting on the 6Pack website of someone who had fabricated a similar design of hub puller, and if that was used in conjuction with my notes, I think you would be in good shape. His email address is fr.faucher at videotron.ca ... it might be worth contacting Rick Patton since I believe he made a puller for his own use. I can also send you the Autocad or PDF drawings for the puller and the wrenches if you can find someone local who can make one, and I can send my dismantling notes as well (the Canadian guy doesn't send any info with his puller I believe). ************** Tony Gordon 72 TR6 ************** > -------Original Message------- > From: Ted > Subject: Re: [TR] hub pullers > Sent: Jul 10 '08 15:55 > > Hi Tony, > > Would you happen to have any hub pullers on hand for sale? If not, how > big a run would you need to have your machine shop run an order? > > All my best, > > Ted Liberti > State College, PA From janah at att.net Sat Jul 12 06:54:47 2008 From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski) Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:54:47 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Hub Puller Message-ID: <9971B4B04D1F4DDA8B6BC8BAF5444AEC@p4home> Francois Faucher's hub puller comes with a low profile wrench that you need to set your endplay / bearing pre-load. John Cyg From apackard68 at comcast.net Sun Jul 13 01:23:49 2008 From: apackard68 at comcast.net (apackard68 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Andy Packard's TR250 chassis and body marriage Message-ID: <200807130723.m6D7Nn5j011966@upsa-web127.ofoto.com> The body went on the chassis today! We were a little low on manpower, but had just enough resourcefulness to pull it off. Our first attempt trying to roll the chassis under the body with the body lifted by a fully-extended engine hoist was unsuccessful due to the chassis not able to roll completely into position without hitting the legs of the hoist. The body shop owner stated he wished we had a block and tackle system from the rafters. Fortunately, Dave Edwards, a TR3 owner and the one club member able to help on short notice is ex-Navy and an active sailor and had brought a block and tackle system with him. In a few short moments of set up, the body was up and then down on the chassis. Most attachment points lined up easily with only one outrigger floor attach point needing some manipulation. The stripe will be applied early next week and it will be back in my garage soon. Andy You're invited to view these photos online at KODAK Gallery! Just click on View Photos to get started. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=zgdfamr.5xzphbtn&x=0&y=yckwkk&localeid=en_US If you'd like to save this album, just sign in, or if you're new to the Gallery, create a free account. Once you've signed in, you'll be able to view this album whenever you want and order Kodak prints of your favorite photos. Enjoy! Instructions: Click view photos to begin. If you're an existing member you'll be asked to sign in. If not, you can join the Gallery for free. http://www.kodakgallery.com/Register.jsp Questions? Visit http://help.kodakgallery.com. ------------------------------------------------------------ The KODAK Gallery Customer Service Team Phone: 800-360-9098 / 512-651-9770 Outside of the US and Canada ------------------------------------------------------------ If you cannot see the links above, copy and paste the following URL directly into your browser: http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=zgdfamr.5xzphbtn&x=0&y=yckwkk&localeid=en_US From browder3 at bellsouth.net Sun Jul 13 13:27:20 2008 From: browder3 at bellsouth.net (John Browder) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:27:20 -0400 Subject: [6pack] TR6 Collection For Sale... Will Separate Message-ID: <0B32DD4D-76D9-4652-AF83-26ADF8907C3A@bellsouth.net> I think many of you are aware of my cars for sale. I have been trying to find someone to buy the whole lot, or trade me something for all. No luck. I did sell the best two cars to a friend, so what is left is 7 solid cars and two parts cars. The most interesting car has to be the RHD PI CR car. It was running when it went into storage... not since. That is true of most of the cars. Many would run with a typical weekend of work. All the info is on this website: http://web.mac.com/jbrowder/TR-6_Site/Home.html Thanks for looking! John Browder Knoxville, TN From alanatkinson at hotmail.com Sun Jul 13 13:42:56 2008 From: alanatkinson at hotmail.com (Alan Atkinson) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:42:56 -0400 Subject: [6pack] The new 6-Pack site is finally online Message-ID: For those of you on the list who don't visit, the 6-Pack website has had a makeover. We've switched to a different set of software to run the site, but we have managed to port over all the information from the old site, as well as keeping all the information from the forums. In the coming months, we'll be adding more content - something that has been sadly neglected over the last year or so, as well as improvements and enhancements to what we already have. The URL for the new site is the same as the old: www.6-pack.org There's a lot of work gone into the changeover - take a few seconds to have a look around... Hopefully we'll see you there. Alan Atkinson 6-Pack Webmaster. _________________________________________________________________ Its a talkathon  but its not just talk. http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_JustTalk From sumton at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 13 14:01:40 2008 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:01:40 -0500 Subject: [6pack] The new 6-Pack site is finally online References: Message-ID: <002d01c8e523$451a0b90$7d15a8c0@garage.local> woohoo! impressive! From forzion at maine.rr.com Tue Jul 15 18:30:09 2008 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (David Friedlander) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:30:09 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Brake pipe sealant? Message-ID: <487D4111.9060100@maine.rr.com> Hello list; I'm replacing the brake pipes leading into the PDWA and was wondering if thread sealant of any kind is typically used? I'll be using DOT 5 fluid in the reservoir as I am flushing out the DOT3. No more paint damage, woohoo! Thanks!! Dave Friedlander 74-Six From stan.foster at hp.com Tue Jul 15 19:01:14 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:01:14 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Brake pipe sealant? In-Reply-To: <487D4111.9060100@maine.rr.com> References: <487D4111.9060100@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF724E56973207@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Dave, the seal is made by the shaped end of the pipe mating with the seat in the valve and the threaded sleeve is just to apply compression. There should be no sealant required and if a joint was found to be leaking, that needs to be resolved a different way as leaks at any brake pipe joint would be a bad thing. Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Friedlander Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:30 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Brake pipe sealant? Hello list; I'm replacing the brake pipes leading into the PDWA and was wondering if thread sealant of any kind is typically used? I'll be using DOT 5 fluid in the reservoir as I am flushing out the DOT3. No more paint damage, woohoo! Thanks!! Dave Friedlander 74-Six From forzion at maine.rr.com Tue Jul 15 20:36:09 2008 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (David Friedlander) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:36:09 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Brake pipe sealant? In-Reply-To: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF724E56973207@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <487D4111.9060100@maine.rr.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF724E56973207@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <487D5E99.1020502@maine.rr.com> Stan; Thanks. I noted that when I replaced the four bleeder screws with new SpeedBleeder screws, the new screws had some sort of sealant pre-applied to the threads. I realize those aren't brake pipe joints but they're still a part of the braking system and are also threaded.... so I thought I'd check before reassembling the pipes to the PDWA. Again, thanks! Cheers! Dave Foster, Stan wrote: >Dave, the seal is made by the shaped end of the pipe mating with the seat in the valve and the threaded sleeve is just to apply compression. There should be no sealant required and if a joint was found to be leaking, that needs to be resolved a different way as leaks at any brake pipe joint would be a bad thing. > >Stan > >-----Original Message----- >From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Friedlander >Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:30 PM >To: 6pack at autox.team.net >Subject: [6pack] Brake pipe sealant? > >Hello list; > >I'm replacing the brake pipes leading into the PDWA and was wondering if >thread sealant of any kind is typically used? I'll be using DOT 5 fluid >in the >reservoir as I am flushing out the DOT3. No more paint damage, woohoo! > >Thanks!! > >Dave Friedlander >74-Six From levilevi at comcast.net Tue Jul 15 23:53:14 2008 From: levilevi at comcast.net (levilevi) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:53:14 -0600 Subject: [6pack] Brake pipe sealant? References: <487D4111.9060100@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <002e01c8e708$3da27230$9d63b043@rolofson> Dave, My PWDA leaked when I put it back together until I lightly sanded...and I mean lightly...the surfaces that meet to make the seal. Of course it took a lot of almost overtightening the fittings and cussing before I discovered the solution. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57806 (The Wreck-Almost Parts) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) ----- Original Message ----- From: David Friedlander To: 6pack at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: [6pack] Brake pipe sealant? Hello list; I'm replacing the brake pipes leading into the PDWA and was wondering if thread sealant of any kind is typically used? I'll be using DOT 5 fluid in the reservoir as I am flushing out the DOT3. No more paint damage, woohoo! Thanks!! Dave Friedlander 74-Six _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as levilevi at comcast.net From rccpl1 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 16 04:43:25 2008 From: rccpl1 at yahoo.com (john doe) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] su carbs Message-ID: <655173.38206.qm@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> just got everything back together on my tr6 and am running su's need alittle help on tuning on acceleration they bog out is that a dist issue anyone in the new york area have any experience with them all help is appreciated From forzion at maine.rr.com Wed Jul 16 07:45:40 2008 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (forzion at maine.rr.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 9:45:40 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Lug nut thread size Message-ID: <9182439.2296511216215940843.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web13-z02> Hey all; I was going to bring a lug nut with me to work, today, so I could use it to compare and buy a new set at lunchtime today. But, I forgot to bring one but would very much like to buy them today. Anyone happen to know the correct thread size for the lug nuts? Many thanks! Dave '74-Six From emanteno at comcast.net Wed Jul 16 07:53:06 2008 From: emanteno at comcast.net (emanteno at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:53:06 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Lug nut thread size Message-ID: <071620081353.2025.487DFD4200064FF8000007E92207022933970A9D010507@comcast.net> -------------- Original message -------------- From: > Hey all; > > I was going to bring a lug nut with me to work, today, so I could use it to > compare and buy a new set at lunchtime today. But, I forgot to bring one but > would very much like to buy them today. Anyone happen to know the correct thread > size for the lug nuts? 7/16" RH Irv Korey 74 TR6 Cf22767U Highland Park, IL From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Jul 16 08:02:18 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Lug nut thread size In-Reply-To: <9182439.2296511216215940843.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web13-z02> References: <9182439.2296511216215940843.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web13-z02> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 forzion at maine.rr.com wrote: > Hey all; > > I was going to bring a lug nut with me to work, today, so I could use it > to compare and buy a new set at lunchtime today. But, I forgot to bring > one but would very much like to buy them today. Anyone happen to know > the correct thread size for the lug nuts? 7/16-20 > Many thanks! > > Dave > '74-Six rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From triumph.tr4 at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 08:33:58 2008 From: triumph.tr4 at gmail.com (Scott Tilton) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:33:58 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Lug nut thread size In-Reply-To: References: <9182439.2296511216215940843.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web13-z02> Message-ID: on a related note - has anyone ever put longer studs onto the rear hub of a TR6? I'm sure people have. So the more appropriate question is - has anyone done it with an off the shelf part and without having to modify the TR6 hub. (drill out the hole to accomodate a larger diameter knurl) I'd be curious to know what you used / where you got it. I've browsed the catalogs of the usual suspects (Summit / Jegs and the websites of the brands they sell (Moroso, Mr. Gasket, etc.) and didn't see anything that I was SURE would work. Thanks in advane - Scott On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Robert Lang wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 forzion at maine.rr.com wrote: > > > Hey all; > > > > I was going to bring a lug nut with me to work, today, so I could use it > > to compare and buy a new set at lunchtime today. But, I forgot to bring > > one but would very much like to buy them today. Anyone happen to know > > the correct thread size for the lug nuts? > > 7/16-20 > > > Many thanks! > > > > Dave > > '74-Six > > rml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent > Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! > Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as triumph.tr4 at gmail.com > -- Signature below blatantly stolen from Bud Rolofson: 70TR6 CC5#### (Good 6) 63TR4 CT157## (The Wreck-Almost Parts) 64TR4 CT25### (The Project) 97F-150 L TRUCKO (Triumph Support Vehicle) 1989 Honda Prelude Si 4WS (economic commuter Vehicle) From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Jul 16 09:05:39 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Lug nut thread size In-Reply-To: References: <9182439.2296511216215940843.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web13-z02> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Scott Tilton wrote: > on a related note - has anyone ever put longer studs onto the rear hub of a > TR6? Yep, been there, done that. > I'm sure people have. > > So the more appropriate question is - has anyone done it with an off the > shelf part and without having to modify the TR6 hub. (drill out the hole to > accomodate a larger diameter knurl) I wound up with two possible solutions. I forget the exact dimensions, but there are Mr. Gasket 3" studs with a knurl that is almost exactly the same as the stock studs which I seem to recall as .560 or something like that. These are 1/2-20 studs. Nice and beefy. If you want off-the shelf from the go-fast places, Moroso has 1/2-20 studs 3" long that come in 5-packs. Those have a larger knurl (.615???) so you have to ream the holes out to get 'em to fit. I was doing a pile of hubs when I did this, so I contacted a tool supply place and got a proper sized reamer and then get the hubs and tool mo a machinist. I still have the reamer (somewhere) if you go that route. If you need the Moroso part numbers, let me know. I have a few spares in the garage (in the blister pack), but I got 'em from Summit Racing. Now the bad news - I'm pretty sure the only way you can get 3" studs in is to pop the hub apart. The long studs won't clear the bearing carrier. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From iron_horse819 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 16 09:34:59 2008 From: iron_horse819 at yahoo.com (Raymond Hatfield) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:34:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Lug nut thread size In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <761925.63156.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> According to my notes, Hugh Barber was able to use ARP wheels studs on both his front and rear hubs. IIRC, these were the late GM disc brake type studs, but you might want to contact him to be sure. He accomplised the installation on the rear hubs by grinding a "half moon" slot on the flat portion of the bearing carrier. I have a photo that he sent me if you need it Raymond L. Hatfield --- On Wed, 7/16/08, Robert Lang wrote: > From: Robert Lang > Subject: Re: [6pack] Lug nut thread size > To: "Scott Tilton" > Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 10:05 AM > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Scott Tilton wrote: > > > on a related note - has anyone ever put longer studs > onto the rear hub of a > > TR6? > > Yep, been there, done that. > > > I'm sure people have. > > > > So the more appropriate question is - has anyone done > it with an off the > > shelf part and without having to modify the TR6 hub. > (drill out the hole to > > accomodate a larger diameter knurl) > > I wound up with two possible solutions. I forget the exact > dimensions, but > there are Mr. Gasket 3" studs with a knurl that is > almost exactly the same > as the stock studs which I seem to recall as .560 or > something like that. > These are 1/2-20 studs. Nice and beefy. > > If you want off-the shelf from the go-fast places, Moroso > has 1/2-20 studs > 3" long that come in 5-packs. Those have a larger > knurl (.615???) so you > have to ream the holes out to get 'em to fit. I was > doing a pile of hubs > when I did this, so I contacted a tool supply place and got > a proper sized > reamer and then get the hubs and tool mo a machinist. I > still have the > reamer (somewhere) if you go that route. > > If you need the Moroso part numbers, let me know. I have a > few spares in > the garage (in the blister pack), but I got 'em from > Summit Racing. > > Now the bad news - I'm pretty sure the only way you can > get 3" studs in is > to pop the hub apart. The long studs won't clear the > bearing carrier. From johnehorton at yahoo.com Wed Jul 16 10:04:28 2008 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] 1976 Rubber bumpers Message-ID: <326501.91117.qm@web51902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I have a complete set of rubber bumpers in excellent shape. The brackets are also included. I was thinking 125.00 plus fedex to you. Anyone interested John hortron From iron_horse819 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 16 10:21:23 2008 From: iron_horse819 at yahoo.com (Raymond Hatfield) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Lug nut thread size In-Reply-To: <761925.63156.qm@web54111.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <844159.44876.qm@web54102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ok, did a little further research, and the studs being referenced are ARP P/N 100-7708 "12mm x 1.50 Late Model GM WSK" --- On Wed, 7/16/08, Raymond Hatfield wrote: > From: Raymond Hatfield > Subject: Re: [6pack] Lug nut thread size > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 10:34 AM > According to my notes, Hugh Barber was able to use ARP > wheels studs on both his front and rear hubs. IIRC, these > were the late GM disc brake type studs, but you might want > to contact him to be sure. > > He accomplised the installation on the rear hubs by > grinding a "half moon" slot on the flat portion > of the bearing carrier. I have a photo that he sent me if > you need it > > Raymond L. Hatfield > > > --- On Wed, 7/16/08, Robert Lang > wrote: > > > From: Robert Lang > > Subject: Re: [6pack] Lug nut thread size > > To: "Scott Tilton" > > > Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net > > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 10:05 AM > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Scott Tilton wrote: > > > > > on a related note - has anyone ever put longer > studs > > onto the rear hub of a > > > TR6? > > > > Yep, been there, done that. > > > > > I'm sure people have. > > > > > > So the more appropriate question is - has anyone > done > > it with an off the > > > shelf part and without having to modify the TR6 > hub. > > (drill out the hole to > > > accomodate a larger diameter knurl) > > > > I wound up with two possible solutions. I forget the > exact > > dimensions, but > > there are Mr. Gasket 3" studs with a knurl that > is > > almost exactly the same > > as the stock studs which I seem to recall as .560 or > > something like that. > > These are 1/2-20 studs. Nice and beefy. > > > > If you want off-the shelf from the go-fast places, > Moroso > > has 1/2-20 studs > > 3" long that come in 5-packs. Those have a larger > > knurl (.615???) so you > > have to ream the holes out to get 'em to fit. I > was > > doing a pile of hubs > > when I did this, so I contacted a tool supply place > and got > > a proper sized > > reamer and then get the hubs and tool mo a machinist. > I > > still have the > > reamer (somewhere) if you go that route. > > > > If you need the Moroso part numbers, let me know. I > have a > > few spares in > > the garage (in the blister pack), but I got 'em > from > > Summit Racing. > > > > Now the bad news - I'm pretty sure the only way > you can > > get 3" studs in is > > to pop the hub apart. The long studs won't clear > the > > bearing carrier. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as iron_horse819 at yahoo.com From lang at isis.mit.edu Wed Jul 16 10:24:04 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Lug nut thread size In-Reply-To: <844159.44876.qm@web54102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <844159.44876.qm@web54102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Raymond Hatfield wrote: > Ok, did a little further research, and the studs being referenced are > ARP P/N 100-7708 "12mm x 1.50 Late Model GM WSK" 12 mm?? On a Triumph? ARRGHHHHH! :-) rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From triumph.tr4 at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 11:43:38 2008 From: triumph.tr4 at gmail.com (Scott Tilton) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:43:38 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Fwd: Your message to 6pack awaits moderator approval In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You know . . .i know one of my weaknesses is that I can be too verbose and ramble on too damned long in an e-mail. I have occasionally gotten these messages telling me as much (see below) This time, however, I didn't think my message was that long. Secondly - do we even have a moderator who looks at this thing and decides whether or not to send it? I don't think I've ever had a message pass through after moderator approval. If we don't have someone doing this . . perhaps the message should be changed to "you exceeded the size limit for a message. Try again." Scott ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <6pack-bounces at autox.team.net> Date: Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:35 AM Subject: Your message to 6pack awaits moderator approval To: triumph.tr4 at gmail.com Your mail to '6pack' with the subject Re: [6pack] Lug nut thread size Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 3208 bytes with a limit of 3 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: -- Signature below blatantly stolen from Bud Rolofson: 70TR6 CC5#### (Good 6) 63TR4 CT157## (The Wreck-Almost Parts) 64TR4 CT25### (The Project) 97F-150 L TRUCKO (Triumph Support Vehicle) 1989 Honda Prelude Si 4WS (economic commuter Vehicle) From standardtriumph at btinternet.com Wed Jul 16 17:17:30 2008 From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:17:30 +0100 Subject: [6pack] Jonmac's proposed trip to Watkins Glen - Sept 2008 Message-ID: <018c01c8e79a$1f8e52e0$0201a8c0@Bevan> Listers, Sorry to enter the fray with an essentially travel-related query - but it does have a strong Triumph flavour. Subject to health issues at home affecting close relatives, I'm planning on making it to Watkins Glen in early September this year for "the Big Bash.". I did put out a request to the FoT list and while I got a few replies, they weren't enough to enable me to make specific decisions. So, my thoughts are as follows: 1. It looks like New York is the nearest international airport for inbound flights from the UK, with JFK being the most popular airport. Does anyone know of an *international* airport closer to the Glen? 2. Is anyone in the New York area going to the Glen with whom I could beg a ride from NY? I'm more than happy to make meaningful contributions to fuel and meet all my subsistence costs. 3. Failing 2 above, I have plenty of experience of 'driving on the wrong side of the road' (i.e. in LH steer cars) and will rent a car. Any suggestions on airport car rental organisations who don't build the NATO defence budget into their rates? I'd be happy with something small like a VW Golf/Rabbit (diesel preferred) and I might even *lower* myself to taking the wheel of a Ford. Thoughts ladies and gentlemen? An enquiring mind wishes to know :) Jonmac Originator of The Triumph Trans-America Charity Drive 2009 www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk An event for full TRIUMPH Enthusiast participation From tr6nut at verizon.net Wed Jul 16 17:24:10 2008 From: tr6nut at verizon.net (Hugh Barber) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:24:10 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Lug nut thread size In-Reply-To: References: <844159.44876.qm@web54102.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <487E831A.90303@verizon.net> Robert Lang wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Raymond Hatfield wrote: > > >> Ok, did a little further research, and the studs being referenced are >> ARP P/N 100-7708 "12mm x 1.50 Late Model GM WSK" >> > > 12 mm?? On a Triumph? > > ARRGHHHHH! > > :-) > > rml > Geez Bob, Its not that bad! I like to think that the studs match the brake caliper bolts! Hugh Barber '73 TR6 ( with metric calipers) Stafford, VA From mailkendall at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 16 20:26:48 2008 From: mailkendall at sbcglobal.net (Kendall Larsen) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Jonmac's proposed trip to Watkins Glen - Sept 2008 Message-ID: <108466.38329.qm@web82608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey John, Thrifty was the cheapest company when I looked a couple of weeks ago. (Could be a different story on the east coast) Most likely scenario is that you'll get stuck in a Chrysler / Dodge of somesort no matter what you said you wanted. You won't find a VW and especially not a Diesel to rent in the US of A. But with the exchange rates the way they are I'm sure you can afford to get whatever you like :) You can check www.expedia.com to see what companies are at your airport. Kendall San Clemente, CA From red_tr250 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 11:34:07 2008 From: red_tr250 at yahoo.com (Todd Bermudez) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:34:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Spin On adapter Message-ID: <335964.15017.qm@web43134.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi, Has anyone ever taken the "non-drilled" spin-on adapters & drilled them for oil lines? I have a spin-on adapter(non-drilled) for 6 cylinder applications. I'd like to install the adapter and drill it for an oil cooler if possible. It would go on our GT6 which is running pretty warm...even with a pusher fan installed. Cheers, Todd Bermudez '68 GT6 Mk1 RHD Overdrive Cincinnati, OH From forzion at maine.rr.com Thu Jul 17 13:04:00 2008 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (forzion at maine.rr.com) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:04:00 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Brake pipe sealant? Message-ID: <11557134.2955911216321441960.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web03-z02> Dick; Is that the yellow Teflon tape you're referring to? Or the standard white tape? Dave ---- Sally or Dick Taylor wrote: > Dave---I found it necessary to seal the pipes to the rear wheel cylinders after replacing both the cylinders and hard lines to them. Fluid leaks under the high hydraulic pressure made them weep. Even later, bench testing them with only air showed soapy bubbles coming out. The teflon tape stopped all this nonsense. Apparantly the aftermarket threads aren't as clean and tight as the originals. > I had no problem when reconnecting the PDWA switch. > > Dick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Friedlander > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:30 PM > To: 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: [6pack] Brake pipe sealant? > > Hello list; > > I'm replacing the brake pipes leading into the PDWA and was wondering if > thread sealant of any kind is typically used? I'll be using DOT 5 fluid > in the > reservoir as I am flushing out the DOT3. No more paint damage, woohoo! > > Thanks!! > > Dave Friedlander > 74-Six > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net From jmerone at rocketmail.com Thu Jul 17 13:08:26 2008 From: jmerone at rocketmail.com (Joe Merone) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] TR6 window winder mechanism Message-ID: <698973.88355.qm@web30908.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The big spring that works the window winder in my TR6 has come un-sprung and jumped out of place. I've been told not to even bother trying to put it back in because it'll just pop out again. True? And do I have to buy the whole window winder mechanism as the solution? Thanks, Joe Merone Going to the ATA show in Saratoga NY this Saturday CF18928 From sbeaulieu at caci.com Thu Jul 17 14:24:05 2008 From: sbeaulieu at caci.com (Stephen Beaulieu) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:24:05 -0400 Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: I will be out of the office starting 07/17/2008 and will not return until 07/21/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. From aktifspeed at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 14:58:34 2008 From: aktifspeed at gmail.com (Erik Sulcs) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:58:34 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Front Bumper License Plate Bracket Message-ID: Does anyone out there have a spare front license plate bracket? (fitted to 1975-76). I'll pay anything reasonable for a bracket in a similarly reasonable condition... I've been pulled over twice here in New York for not having a front license plate on my car. I know I can put the plate on without the bracket, but I prefer the finished look. Thanks, Erik S. From janah at att.net Thu Jul 17 16:19:32 2008 From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:19:32 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Wiring Harness Message-ID: I need a new harness. The Moss harness is on sale. Anybody have experiance with this one? John Cyg From rccpl1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 17 16:54:35 2008 From: rccpl1 at yahoo.com (john doe) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] su carbs Message-ID: <395022.7504.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> anyone that has done the conversion please get back to me can't get them to run for nothing its on a 76 tr6 From jmitch at snet.net Thu Jul 17 19:18:43 2008 From: jmitch at snet.net (John Mitchell) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:18:43 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Missing parts of an Angle Drive Message-ID: <487FEF73.4060704@snet.net> On a long drive last weekend, my speedometer suddenly stopped working, so I figured a cable had broken. Tonight I checked and both cables(1976 model) are fine. So I then figured the cable inside the angle drive had snapped. When I pulled it off tonight, all that was left was the housing. The internal parts were missing. Is the inner mechanism pressed into the housing or does the set screw hold things together? I had always thought the set screw just held the part attached to the cable from changing angle. Does that screw need to be snugged after installation? Thanks for any insights. John Mitchell 76 TR6 From cgrimes at golden.net Thu Jul 17 19:22:33 2008 From: cgrimes at golden.net (Colin Grimes) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:22:33 -0400 Subject: [6pack] camber adjustment Message-ID: <87E4687E526F437C8FA55413D364850E@norman> I have been working on improving the camber on my 71.using my 3 and 1 dent brackets. It was at -ve 4 deg, flipped brackets per Nelson Reidel interesting article. Obviously one has to it once for trial and improve from there. first attempt resulted in +ve 4 degrees. second attempt -ve 2 deg. with a greater increase in ride height on one side. I am looking to get > 1 deg preferably positive. it would seem this would require the 2 dent brackets is there any any chance some one has a couple ? or am I blowing smoke. advice appreciated Colin (stratford ) From sumton at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 17 20:20:43 2008 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:20:43 -0500 Subject: [6pack] center dash support References: Message-ID: <003f01c8e87e$73c85010$7d15a8c0@garage.local> i have a very nice center dash support i was going to list on ebay. it came out of a 69 tr6. anyone interested before i ebay it? From lang at isis.mit.edu Fri Jul 18 07:51:24 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] camber adjustment In-Reply-To: <87E4687E526F437C8FA55413D364850E@norman> References: <87E4687E526F437C8FA55413D364850E@norman> Message-ID: Hi, Dump the notched brackets and go for the GoodParts adjustable camber brackets. LOTS EASIER. That said, if you MUST use the stock pieces, get the "table" of camber combinations. If you have -4 and you want -2, look at the line in the table with your combo (NOT YOUR CAMBER SETTING, THE BRACKET COMBO) then find the combo that's -2 degrees from there. Done. It sounds complicated, but it's pretty straight forward. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From kmcnelis at nmsu.edu Fri Jul 18 07:50:55 2008 From: kmcnelis at nmsu.edu (Dr L. Kevin McNelis) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 07:50:55 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [6pack] Wiring Harness Message-ID: <22662543.1216389055555.JavaMail.kmcnelis@nmsu.edu> John, I used the Moss harness. Main, rear, and O/D, all three. Fit was fine, all the connectors where they should be. Colors were correct. I've had no problems (other than the ones I caused myelf), and would buy the Moss harness again should I ever have to rewire again (heaven forbid!). Kevin John Cyganowski wrote: >I need a new harness. The Moss harness is on sale. Anybody have experiance > with this one? > John Cyg > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > http://www.team.net/archive > You are subscribed as kmcnelis at nmsu.edu From vance.navarrette at intel.com Fri Jul 18 09:52:52 2008 From: vance.navarrette at intel.com (Navarrette, Vance) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:52:52 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Wiring Harness In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: John: The wiring harnesses for the big three are all made by the same supplier, so shop price. I got mine on sale from Moss. Some observations: 1. DO NOT throw away your old harness. A few of the electrical bits are no longer made, and you will need to transfer a few of the bits from your old harness to the new one. 2. The fit and finish of the harness is more than adequate. 3. In one or two cases, the wire colors were incorrect on the new harness, leading to some confusion. E.g. a wire was light green when it was supposed to be dark green. At first I thought I had made an installation mistake, but some work with a volt meter confirmed that I had wired things correctly. 4. The harness maker substituted a different socket for the instrument lights. The sockets require different bulbs, available at an auto parts store for a few pennies. Presumably this was because the original style sockets are no longer available. Vance Vance Navarrette Cogito Ergo Zoom I think, therefore I go fast -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+vance.navarrette=intel.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+vance.navarrette=intel.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Cyganowski Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:20 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Wiring Harness I need a new harness. The Moss harness is on sale. Anybody have experiance with this one? John Cyg From george_loriot at hotmail.com Fri Jul 18 10:16:16 2008 From: george_loriot at hotmail.com (George Loriot) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:16:16 -0400 Subject: [6pack] TR6 lives! [was: sad end of my triumph] Message-ID: Hi Listers, I'm the guy who wrote to the list in May, about the demise of my TR6 due to a broken frame where the upper A-arm mounts. I thought it was all over. But happy days are here again - Several listers had encouraging comments about repairing the frame, and one lister who came to look at it to buy it thought it was not so bad. I checked other parts of the frame and it really was in good shape. So I figured it could be fixed. And it is! Fixed that is. I took the front end apart, a local welder came to my garage and fabbed a piece of frame material and mig welded it in place. Nice clean job. Very reasonable price. I put the car back together, the alignmnet is very good even after all this, and I'm back on the road again! Thanks to the list for encouragement - I would have made a big mistake if I had sold the tr. George Loriot 1976 TR6 _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From tpdwinch at yahoo.com Fri Jul 18 14:35:55 2008 From: tpdwinch at yahoo.com (Dale) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Wiring Harness Message-ID: <265190.32094.qm@web36101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> John Have purchased items from this vendor and have had good success. You need to request a price qoute for your application. Worth a check and they are in Pa. British Wiring Inc. Suppliers of wiring harnesses and electrical components for the restoration of British classic cars and motorcycles. www.britishwiring.com/ Dale ----- Original Message ---- From: John Cyganowski To: 6pack at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 6:19:32 PM Subject: [6pack] Wiring Harness I need a new harness. The Moss harness is on sale. Anybody have experiance with this one? John Cyg _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tpdwinch at yahoo.com From trmarty at hotmail.com Fri Jul 18 19:55:22 2008 From: trmarty at hotmail.com (marty sukey) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:55:22 -0400 Subject: [6pack] VTR 2008 Beer Swap Message-ID: A gathering of suds lovers will take place at this years national convention. It will be an informal gathering of friends to share your favorite home brew or that special microbrew that you like. The Brew Swap will take place on Tuesday August 5th in a designated room at the host hotel. It will be a prelude to the welcome reception, from 4:00 to 6:00 ish. We will provide the room, tables and some glasses. Bring your favorite cold special beverage and possibly some snacks that would go good with beer. Game plan is to mingle and sample others favorite beer (or whatever) and if you find something you gotta have you can swap the owner one of his bottles for one of your bottles and have something to take home. This will give us an opportunity to sample some home brews made by fellow Triumph owners and possibly some micro brews from different parts of the country that you normally would not get to try. If you plan on participating please give me a direct reply so we can try and do some planning . Thanks,Marty Sukey _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From jmitch at snet.net Fri Jul 18 20:24:04 2008 From: jmitch at snet.net (John Mitchell) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:24:04 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Crankshafts Message-ID: <48815044.6070602@snet.net> Can anyone tell me why they list 4 different model number crankshafts for the TR6, 2 for carb engines and 2 for PI engines. What were the differences and did they all interchange? Thanks, John Mitchell 76 TR6 From kmcnelis at nmsu.edu Sat Jul 19 10:37:35 2008 From: kmcnelis at nmsu.edu (Dr L. Kevin McNelis) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:37:35 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [6pack] voltage stabilizer Message-ID: <17514060.1216485455717.JavaMail.kmcnelis@nmsu.edu> OK, all. I am still futzing around with my electricals. Here's the problem: Both my fuel gauge and temp gauge register WAY too high. For instance, my fuel gauge reads 3/4 tank when it is nearly empty. Temp gauge is always nearly at the red. I have used a kitchen thermometer to check the temp in the radiator (after removing the thermostat to make sure that wasn't the problem), and the thermometer shows no higher than about 180. Now, I know that the temp and fuel gauges both run off of the voltage stabilizer, so it is putting through too much power to these gauges. Is there a way to put in a resistor or something that would help correct this problem? Or do I just replace the stabilizer and hope for the best? Or just ignore the whole thing, and fill up with liquid gold (errr gasoline) when I have gone 180 miles or so? Kevin From janah at att.net Sat Jul 19 11:37:55 2008 From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:37:55 -0400 Subject: [6pack] GT6 Question Message-ID: <9F7212B2799E428F81868A67E83DC5D4@p4home> Will the TR6 engine fit into a GT6? Does it make up to the transmission? John Cyg From lfm614 at aol.com Sat Jul 19 12:12:46 2008 From: lfm614 at aol.com (lfm614 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:12:46 +0000 Subject: [6pack] voltage stabilizer Message-ID: <1404975860-1216491168-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-105311152-@bxe005.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Have you checked the output of the voltage regulator? Should be around 10v if I recall but I can confirm later when I get home. Lou ------Original Message------ From: Dr L. Kevin McNelis Sender: 6pack-bounces+lfm614=aol.com at autox.team.net To: TR-6 list Sent: Jul 19, 2008 11:37 AM Subject: [6pack] voltage stabilizer OK, all. I am still futzing around with my electricals. Here's the problem: Both my fuel gauge and temp gauge register WAY too high. For instance, my fuel gauge reads 3/4 tank when it is nearly empty. Temp gauge is always nearly at the red. I have used a kitchen thermometer to check the temp in the radiator (after removing the thermostat to make sure that wasn't the problem), and the thermometer shows no higher than about 180. Now, I know that the temp and fuel gauges both run off of the voltage stabilizer, so it is putting through too much power to these gauges. Is there a way to put in a resistor or something that would help correct this problem? Or do I just replace the stabilizer and hope for the best? Or just ignore the whole thing, and fill up with liquid gold (errr gasoline) when I have gone 180 miles or so? Kevin _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as lfm614 at aol.com From tr6taylor at webtv.net Sat Jul 19 13:01:13 2008 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:01:13 GMT Subject: [6pack] voltage stabilizer Message-ID: Kevin---Since both the fuel and temp gauges are reading high, it points to a faulty voltage stabilizer. No other control should be necessary. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Dr L. Kevin McNelis Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 9:37 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] voltage stabilizer OK, all. I am still futzing around with my electricals. Here's the problem: Both my fuel gauge and temp gauge register WAY too high. For instance, my fuel gauge reads 3/4 tank when it is nearly empty. Temp gauge is always nearly at the red. I have used a kitchen thermometer to check the temp in the radiator (after removing the thermostat to make sure that wasn't the problem), and the thermometer shows no higher than about 180. Now, I know that the temp and fuel gauges both run off of the voltage stabilizer, so it is putting through too much power to these gauges. Is there a way to put in a resistor or something that would help correct this problem? Or do I just replace the stabilizer and hope for the best? Or just ignore the whole thing, and fill up with liquid gold (errr gasoline) when I have gone 180 miles or so? Kevin 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net From apackard68 at comcast.net Sat Jul 19 18:20:41 2008 From: apackard68 at comcast.net (apackard68 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Car is finally in my garage! Message-ID: <200807200020.m6K0KfFI022155@upsa-web123.ofoto.com> A couple pics of the car loaded up to come home. The best part of the picture is the last two are in front of my house. Now, where do I start? You're invited to view these photos online at KODAK Gallery! Just click on View Photos to get started. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=zgdfamr.1c9ts7gb&x=0&y=-hfkjss&localeid=en_US If you'd like to save this album, just sign in, or if you're new to the Gallery, create a free account. Once you've signed in, you'll be able to view this album whenever you want and order Kodak prints of your favorite photos. Enjoy! Instructions: Click view photos to begin. If you're an existing member you'll be asked to sign in. If not, you can join the Gallery for free. http://www.kodakgallery.com/Register.jsp Questions? Visit http://help.kodakgallery.com. ------------------------------------------------------------ The KODAK Gallery Customer Service Team Phone: 800-360-9098 / 512-651-9770 Outside of the US and Canada ------------------------------------------------------------ If you cannot see the links above, copy and paste the following URL directly into your browser: http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=zgdfamr.1c9ts7gb&x=0&y=-hfkjss&localeid=en_US From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Sat Jul 19 22:38:08 2008 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Wiring Harness Message-ID: <440123.823.qm@web65613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> I've I needed a new harness, I would think about an upgraded and updated one from Dan Masters. Only thing is, I think Dan sends you the pieces, supplies and instructions, and you do the final assembly yourself, customizing to your specifics. Those who have gone this route can say more. Bruce Simms __________________________________________________________________ Reclaim your name @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com. Get your new email address now! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Sun Jul 20 05:46:53 2008 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 07:46:53 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Wiring Harness In-Reply-To: <440123.823.qm@web65613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <440123.823.qm@web65613.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201c8ea5e$4fb9c820$210110ac@bobspc> Bruce, I believe Dan is out of the wiring business since his son, the company president died, a few weeks ago. I know he's trying to sell the business but no word from him on that as yet. To answer your question, the harness comes completely assembled to the power block (http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Wire_Harness_1A.htm#Power_Block) but you also have lots of additional wire coils that get run according to the various components in your car. Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Simms Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:38 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Wiring Harness I've I needed a new harness, I would think about an upgraded and updated one from Dan Masters. Only thing is, I think Dan sends you the pieces, supplies and instructions, and you do the final assembly yourself, customizing to your specifics. Those who have gone this route can say more. Bruce Simms __________________________________________________________________ Reclaim your name @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com. Get your new email address now! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.2/1562 - Release Date: 7/19/2008 2:01 PM From mbullard at hawaii.rr.com Sun Jul 20 08:09:41 2008 From: mbullard at hawaii.rr.com (mbullard at hawaii.rr.com) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 4:09:41 -1000 Subject: [6pack] TR250 - Jackson Hole Message-ID: <9935291.130391216562981239.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web24-z02> Aloha all, Vacationing in Wyoming with my family and saw a nice green TR250 in Jackson Hole on Friday night in front of the Cadillac Restaurant. Anyone on the list? Nice car. Mark Bullard '74 TR6 Kailua, Hawaii From red_tr250 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 20 11:58:09 2008 From: red_tr250 at yahoo.com (Todd Bermudez) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 10:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] TR250 - Jackson Hole In-Reply-To: <9935291.130391216562981239.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web24-z02> Message-ID: <984246.14913.qm@web43137.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Now that's funny... You vacationing in Wyoming. While the rest of us midwesterners are trying to keep cool in all this heat & humidity wishing we had the money to vacation in Hawaii :-) Cheers Mark, Todd Bermudez --- mbullard at hawaii.rr.com wrote: > Aloha all, > > Vacationing in Wyoming with my family and saw a nice > green TR250 in Jackson Hole on Friday night in front > of the Cadillac Restaurant. Anyone on the list? > Nice car. > > Mark Bullard > '74 TR6 > Kailua, Hawaii > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as red_tr250 at yahoo.com From f700fast at yahoo.com Sun Jul 20 15:39:21 2008 From: f700fast at yahoo.com (Tom Rand) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 14:39:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] A Overdrive Message-ID: <664999.86179.qm@web55302.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Hell Group. I don't often ask for help but here's one. My over drive quite abruptly driving down the road in 4th gear. Just back shifted and didn't work. I've cleaned the operating valve, and I'm only seeing about 100 PSI. When it shifts into over drive in actually drops another 25 PSI. I guess my next step is taking it apart and check the non return valve and accumulator? Hard to believe this all quit with only 12000 miles on the rebuild. It was working sweet. 1970 TR6 Poland Spring, Maine From gln at worldpath.net Sun Jul 20 15:41:31 2008 From: gln at worldpath.net (Nick Gemas) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:41:31 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Goodparts Limited Slip Differential For Sale Message-ID: <78471F869E5743D899D7FAB203A4A61A@TerriPC> Hi Guys, I hope it's ok to post this here. I have a complete Goodparts Limited Slip Differential and Installation Kit I'd like to sell, I figured I'd like to post it here before it goes on Ebay. I bought it a year or so ago from Richard and never installed it. I'm relocating so I won't have time to put it in for some time and don't want to ship it with me. According to the paperwork that Richard sent with it (which I still have) , the diff. is from a 2001 Infinity with @ 15K miles on it, it is the 4.08:1 ratio which is the closest to the stock TR6 ratio. The installation kit is complete and unopened in original sealed bags. I have pictures for anyone interested. I'd like to get $825.00 plus shipping. I also have a Gunsons Colortune I'd like to get $50 for. If anyone is interested drop me an email at gln at worldpath.net . From pbeckman at ameritech.net Sun Jul 20 16:40:11 2008 From: pbeckman at ameritech.net (Phil Beckman) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:40:11 -0500 Subject: [6pack] TR250 - Jackson Hole In-Reply-To: <984246.14913.qm@web43137.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <984246.14913.qm@web43137.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I was in Jackson Hole on Friday night on vacation as well. Ate at the Cadillac Resturant on Thursday night. Didn't see the TR250 though. Now, even with all the beautiful scenery out there, I feel like I missed something :( Phil Phil Beckman '73 TR6 Libertyville, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Bermudez" To: ; <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [6pack] TR250 - Jackson Hole > Now that's funny... > > You vacationing in Wyoming. While the rest of us > midwesterners are trying to keep cool in all this heat > & humidity wishing we had the money to vacation in > Hawaii :-) > > Cheers Mark, > > Todd Bermudez > > > --- mbullard at hawaii.rr.com wrote: > >> Aloha all, >> >> Vacationing in Wyoming with my family and saw a nice >> green TR250 in Jackson Hole on Friday night in front >> of the Cadillac Restaurant. Anyone on the list? >> Nice car. >> >> Mark Bullard >> '74 TR6 >> Kailua, Hawaii >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> 6pack at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> You are subscribed as red_tr250 at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as pbeckman at ameritech.net From triumph.tr4 at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 17:31:31 2008 From: triumph.tr4 at gmail.com (Scott Tilton) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:31:31 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Goodparts Limited Slip Differential For Sale In-Reply-To: <78471F869E5743D899D7FAB203A4A61A@TerriPC> References: <78471F869E5743D899D7FAB203A4A61A@TerriPC> Message-ID: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Nick Gemas wrote: > , the diff. is from a 2001 Infinity > with @ 15K miles on it, it is the 4.08:1 ratio which is the closest to the > stock TR6 ratio. > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > Isn't Stock Ratio 3.7:1 And isn't there an infinity ratio that is 3.69:1 while the 300Z rato was 4.08:1? Not trying to start any trouble here . .but which is it? Do you have the Infinity that is close to stock Or do you have the 4.08:1? Scott Tilton -- Signature below blatantly stolen from Bud Rolofson: 70TR6 CC5#### (Good 6) 63TR4 CT157## (The Wreck-Almost Parts) 64TR4 CT25### (The Project) 97F-150 L TRUCKO (Triumph Support Vehicle) 1989 Honda Prelude Si 4WS (economic commuter Vehicle) From gln at worldpath.net Sun Jul 20 17:42:13 2008 From: gln at worldpath.net (Nick Gemas) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:42:13 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Goodparts Limited Slip Differential For Sale - Correction!!! In-Reply-To: <78471F869E5743D899D7FAB203A4A61A@TerriPC> References: <78471F869E5743D899D7FAB203A4A61A@TerriPC> Message-ID: Sorry guys, I goofed, the diff. ratio is 3.69:1 to match the stock TR6 diff. Thanks to Scott Tilton for catching that! Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Gemas" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:41 PM Subject: [6pack] Goodparts Limited Slip Differential For Sale > Hi Guys, > I hope it's ok to post this here. I have a complete Goodparts Limited > Slip > Differential and Installation Kit I'd like to sell, I figured I'd like to > post > it here before it goes on Ebay. I bought it a year or so ago from Richard > and > never installed it. I'm relocating so I won't have time to put it in for > some > time and don't want to ship it with me. According to the paperwork that > Richard sent with it (which I still have) , the diff. is from a 2001 > Infinity > with @ 15K miles on it, it is the 4.08:1 ratio which is the closest to the > stock TR6 ratio. The installation kit is complete and unopened in original > sealed bags. I have pictures for anyone interested. I'd like to get > $825.00 > plus shipping. I also have a Gunsons Colortune I'd like to get $50 for. If > anyone is interested drop me an email at gln at worldpath.net . > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as gln at worldpath.net From triumph.tr4 at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 17:47:48 2008 From: triumph.tr4 at gmail.com (Scott Tilton) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:47:48 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Goodparts Limited Slip Differential For Sale - Correction!!! In-Reply-To: References: <78471F869E5743D899D7FAB203A4A61A@TerriPC> Message-ID: No problem. It is something I was thinking about today as I was buzzing up I-95 with my 4.08. Sorta thinking a 3.69 or 3.45 would sure be nice. Then again - on the occasions that I do autocross. . . I'd probably be looking for the 4.08. Grass is always greener type of thing. Scott On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Nick Gemas wrote: > Sorry guys, > I goofed, the diff. ratio is 3.69:1 to match the stock TR6 diff. Thanks > to Scott Tilton for catching that! > Nick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nick Gemas" > To: <6pack at autox.team.net> > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:41 PM > Subject: [6pack] Goodparts Limited Slip Differential For Sale From triumph.tr4 at gmail.com Sun Jul 20 17:52:57 2008 From: triumph.tr4 at gmail.com (Scott Tilton) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 18:52:57 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Blue Smoke on Startup Message-ID: Hey all, The 6 has started this annoying habit of making a nice sized belch of blue smoke right as I start it up. It only happens on startup and only if I have let the car sit for more than a few minutes. My guess is that I've got oil running down the valve stems around loose valve guides. Any other ideas? Scott Tilton -- Signature below blatantly stolen from Bud Rolofson: 70TR6 CC5#### (Good 6) 63TR4 CT157## (The Wreck-Almost Parts) 64TR4 CT25### (The Project) 97F-150 L TRUCKO (Triumph Support Vehicle) 1989 Honda Prelude Si 4WS (economic commuter Vehicle) From gln at worldpath.net Sun Jul 20 19:13:29 2008 From: gln at worldpath.net (Nick Gemas) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:13:29 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Goodparts Differential Correction Message-ID: Sorry guys the diff is 3.69:1 ratio, which same as stock TR6. Thanks Nick From rccpl1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 21 05:04:07 2008 From: rccpl1 at yahoo.com (john doe) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] tr6 manifold Message-ID: <996485.89728.qm@web30408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> looking for a good used late model exhaust manifold asap in the ny area From Jimandruthhome at aol.com Mon Jul 21 14:43:01 2008 From: Jimandruthhome at aol.com (Jimandruthhome at aol.com) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:43:01 EDT Subject: [6pack] john doe manifold request Message-ID: John Doe: I have one late model exhaust manifold. I'm about 40 miles north of NYC in Westchester County. Contact me directly at _jgk423 at aol.com_ (mailto:jgk423 at aol.com) Jim **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From slowtoaccept at yahoo.com Mon Jul 21 15:56:37 2008 From: slowtoaccept at yahoo.com (Jerry Shaw) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:56:37 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Lubrication for OD right angle speedo connection? Message-ID: <000e01c8eb7c$a6baa120$0302a8c0@jerrysoffice> Mine lost a small screw or fitting of some kind. What's the recommended lubrication technique? Thanks Jerry Shaw '75 TR6 under construction From brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca Mon Jul 21 18:21:11 2008 From: brucesimms2003 at yahoo.ca (Bruce Simms) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Wiring Harness Message-ID: <28079.25516.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Very sorry to hear about Dan's loss. Dan is a great guy, always good to answer questions and help. Bruce Simms ----- Original Message ---- From: Bob Danielson <75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org> To: Bruce Simms ; 6pack at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:46:53 AM Subject: RE: [6pack] Wiring Harness Bruce, I believe Dan is out of the wiring business since his son, the company president died, a few weeks ago. I know he's trying to sell the business but no word from him on that as yet. To answer your question, the harness comes completely assembled to the power block (http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/Wire_Harness_1A.htm#Power_Block) but you also have lots of additional wire coils that get run according to the various components in your car. Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Simms Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:38 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Wiring Harness I've I needed a new harness, I would think about an upgraded and updated one from Dan Masters. Only thing is, I think Dan sends you the pieces, supplies and instructions, and you do the final assembly yourself, customizing to your specifics. Those who have gone this route can say more. Bruce Simms __________________________________________________________________ Reclaim your name @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com. Get your new email address now! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.2/1562 - Release Date: 7/19/2008 2:01 PM __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. From triumph at 2simpleusa.com Mon Jul 21 20:48:13 2008 From: triumph at 2simpleusa.com (Tony Gordon) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:48:13 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Donald Stokes obit References: Message-ID: <7D39D95C3F954BF0A9B01ACF6D79DACB@D1TG6Y71> Jonmac can probably tell you more about Donald (Lord) Stokes, but it is certain that he played a part in the post war history of Triumph. He passed away recently and his obit. can be found at http://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/lord-stokes-tough-industrialist- unfairly-blamed-for-the-failure-of-leylands-merger-with-the-british-motor-cor poration-873785.html I never met him, but did see him at a distance at Earls Court in 1971 .... I was looking enviously at a TR6 and he was surrounded by the press by a T200 saloon (sedan). ************************************** Tony Gordon 72 TR6 ************************************* From aktifspeed at gmail.com Tue Jul 22 09:51:30 2008 From: aktifspeed at gmail.com (Erik Sulcs) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:51:30 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Fuel percolation Message-ID: Hello Listers, Last weekend I drove from NYC to Wash. DC and back. It was over 95 degrees on both Sat. and Sunday. My 1974 car has the original Stromberg carbs and a pair of aftermarket air filters. The car drove exceptionally well except for after driving for a few hours, I noticed that it almost wanted to stall-out when I pulled over for gas. I would have to keep blipping the throttle to keep the revs up or it would have died. Then, the problem would have been starting it, as it would only crank and would have a very difficult time starting. If I'm not mistaken this is symptomatic of, "fuel percolation". Can someone explain exactly what that is and how can I avoid it on our cars? I've seen heat shields advertised by the big 3. Does anyone have experience with these? Are they effective? I almost became, "that guy" that stalled-out in the Lincoln Tunnel late Sunday afternoon... not a good way to end the trip w/ my Mrs. to-be... From tr6taylor at webtv.net Tue Jul 22 13:44:52 2008 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:44:52 GMT Subject: [6pack] Fuel percolation Message-ID: Eric---It could be as you thought - fuel percolation. Since a running engine is always replacing the fuel in the carburetor/lines with (cooler) that is in the tank. I'll offer another possibility here. First, make sure that the fuel line is not up against any hot parts of the engine. Second, tho less likely, is restricted "aftermarket" air filters Finally, it could be just the opposite of fuel percolating - that being the intake manifold is cold from extended driving, when receiving no warming from the water going thru the intake manifold. Fuel condensing here will cause the same symptoms as starting a cold engine, that being you might need to Choke it for starting. If this situation should come up again, feel the intake manifold to be sure it is warm to touch. If not, there could be blockage in the line somewhere. (Usually the return pipe). Dick -----Original Message----- From: Erik Sulcs Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:51 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Fuel percolation Hello Listers, Last weekend I drove from NYC to Wash. DC and back. It was over 95 degrees on both Sat. and Sunday. My 1974 car has the original Stromberg carbs and a pair of aftermarket air filters. The car drove exceptionally well except for after driving for a few hours, I noticed that it almost wanted to stall-out when I pulled over for gas. I would have to keep blipping the throttle to keep the revs up or it would have died. Then, the problem would have been starting it, as it would only crank and would have a very difficult time starting. If I'm not mistaken this is symptomatic of, "fuel percolation". Can someone explain exactly what that is and how can I avoid it on our cars? I've seen heat shields advertised by the big 3. Does anyone have experience with these? Are they effective? I almost became, "that guy" that stalled-out in the Lincoln Tunnel late Sunday afternoon... not a good way to end the trip w/ my Mrs. to-be... 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Tue Jul 22 15:02:16 2008 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:02:16 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Fuel percolation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000901c8ec3e$3ab2c120$210110ac@bobspc> I'm in awe of the fact that you got the Mrs To Be to ride in a TR6 from NYC to DC & back, probably on the Jersey Turnpike in 90+ degree heat & humidity. I hate making that trip in a modern car with A/C. She's a keeper! Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Erik Sulcs Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:52 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Fuel percolation Hello Listers, Last weekend I drove from NYC to Wash. DC and back. It was over 95 degrees on both Sat. and Sunday. My 1974 car has the original Stromberg carbs and a pair of aftermarket air filters. The car drove exceptionally well except for after driving for a few hours, I noticed that it almost wanted to stall-out when I pulled over for gas. I would have to keep blipping the throttle to keep the revs up or it would have died. Then, the problem would have been starting it, as it would only crank and would have a very difficult time starting. If I'm not mistaken this is symptomatic of, "fuel percolation". Can someone explain exactly what that is and how can I avoid it on our cars? I've seen heat shields advertised by the big 3. Does anyone have experience with these? Are they effective? I almost became, "that guy" that stalled-out in the Lincoln Tunnel late Sunday afternoon... not a good way to end the trip w/ my Mrs. to-be... 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.3/1565 - Release Date: 7/21/2008 6:36 PM From trsix74 at comcast.net Tue Jul 22 17:11:44 2008 From: trsix74 at comcast.net (Robert Liam Gannon) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:11:44 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Fuel percolation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001301c8ec50$4f943170$6601a8c0@Robert> I've seen heat shields advertised by the big 3. Does anyone have experience with these? Are they effective? I almost became, "that guy" that stalled-out in the Lincoln Tunnel late Sunday afternoon... not a good way to end the trip w/ my Mrs. to-be... I have the heat shield on my TR3 and it helps. I won't say it's the answer to all. I have had similar experiences in tunnels, which were caused by insufficient fuel in the bowls due to restricted rubber hoses and my speed. At 65 mph it was fine but at 72mph she would sputter and die until the float bowls filled up and gas got to the intakes again. Make sure bends in the rubber connection pieces are not sharp. From tr6taylor at webtv.net Wed Jul 23 00:20:51 2008 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:20:51 GMT Subject: [6pack] Blue Smoke on Startup Message-ID: Scott---Other ideas, you asked. OK, if your carb dashpots leak oil, this could be one cause of the blue smoke at startup. Not as likely a cause as the worn valve guides that you suspect. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Scott Tilton Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:52 PM To: 6pack Subject: [6pack] Blue Smoke on Startup Hey all, The 6 has started this annoying habit of making a nice sized belch of blue smoke right as I start it up. It only happens on startup and only if I have let the car sit for more than a few minutes. My guess is that I've got oil running down the valve stems around loose valve guides. Any other ideas? Scott Tilton -- Signature below blatantly stolen from Bud Rolofson: 70TR6 CC5#### (Good 6) 63TR4 CT157## (The Wreck-Almost Parts) 64TR4 CT25### (The Project) 97F-150 L TRUCKO (Triumph Support Vehicle) 1989 Honda Prelude Si 4WS (economic commuter Vehicle) 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net From janah at att.net Thu Jul 24 05:50:43 2008 From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:50:43 -0400 Subject: [6pack] British Tool Message-ID: <4827958946B846468DDC47C8BCF2351D@p4home> Say does anybody know if British Tool is still around. Their website appears to be down. John Cyg From stan.foster at hp.com Thu Jul 24 06:03:35 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:03:35 +0000 Subject: [6pack] British Tool In-Reply-To: <4827958946B846468DDC47C8BCF2351D@p4home> References: <4827958946B846468DDC47C8BCF2351D@p4home> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF724E572486DB@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> I plugged their URL into the internet archive and it indicated that they went off the air between Feb and April 2007 If you go back to Feb 2007 there is contact info britool51 at hotmail.com British Tool Co., 709 Marietta NE, Grand Rapids, MI 49505 Please use email to contact me. Thank you! (NO FAX) email: britool51 at hotmail dot com Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Cyganowski Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:51 AM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] British Tool Say does anybody know if British Tool is still around. Their website appears to be down. John Cyg From tr250 at mindspring.com Thu Jul 24 13:58:59 2008 From: tr250 at mindspring.com (Mark Walker) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:58:59 -0400 Subject: [6pack] 6-Pack Trials Message-ID: <000c01c8edc7$b6bf14f0$243d3ed0$@com> Time is drawing near. Get you reservations made and Register for the 2008 6-Pack Trials. To see some of the roads we'll be driving go to www.tailofthe dragon.com/ for a preview. Check out the newly revitalized 6-Pack site for more Trials info: http://www.6-pack.org Or email me at tr250 at mindspring.com or call 865-591-0982. Thanks Mark Walker Trials host From emanteno at comcast.net Fri Jul 25 06:17:11 2008 From: emanteno at comcast.net (emanteno at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:17:11 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Nissan Diff - Exhaust System Question Message-ID: <072520081217.29135.4889C446000C1A9E000071CF2200748184970A9D010507@comcast.net> I've just installed the Goodparts Nissan diff conversion in my TR6 and went to install a new ANSA exhaust system last night. The diff and the left side resonator want to occupy the same space. If you've done this conversion, I'd appreciate hearing what you have for an exhaust system, and what if any conflicts you had and were able to overcome. Thanks muchly, Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL From red_tr250 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 25 07:01:00 2008 From: red_tr250 at yahoo.com (Todd Bermudez) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Drilling a Spin-On Adapter Message-ID: <840689.39911.qm@web43140.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi, I'm told that it is possible to take a spin-on adapter for a TRiumph 6cyl engine (not currently tapped for an oil cooler) and drill it for the fittings. I'm after the size of the fittings and the thread count/pitch on both sides? Has anyone done this already? Cheers, Todd Bermudez From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Fri Jul 25 09:01:03 2008 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:01:03 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Nissan Diff - Exhaust System Question In-Reply-To: <072520081217.29135.4889C446000C1A9E000071CF2200748184970A9D010507@comcast.net> References: <072520081217.29135.4889C446000C1A9E000071CF2200748184970A9D010507@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000b01c8ee67$4483ce30$210110ac@bobspc> Irv, I've got the stock steel exhaust with no interference problems. So....when you going to get to drive that car? You must be getting real close. Bob Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of emanteno at comcast.net Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:17 AM To: TRiumphs; 6Pack Subject: [6pack] Nissan Diff - Exhaust System Question I've just installed the Goodparts Nissan diff conversion in my TR6 and went to install a new ANSA exhaust system last night. The diff and the left side resonator want to occupy the same space. If you've done this conversion, I'd appreciate hearing what you have for an exhaust system, and what if any conflicts you had and were able to overcome. Thanks muchly, Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.5/1571 - Release Date: 7/24/2008 5:42 PM From tr6taylor at webtv.net Fri Jul 25 12:22:27 2008 From: tr6taylor at webtv.net (Sally or Dick Taylor) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:22:27 GMT Subject: [6pack] Nissan Diff - Exhaust System Question Message-ID: Irv---You'll probably have to have a muffler shop mandrel bend that part which comes up against the Nissan LSD, as I did. Not an Ansa system, but not the stock setup either. Also know that these LSD's with the viscous couplings will not hold the car from rolling, when parked on a hill. Even with the tranny in gear! To check yours, put it in gear and try pushing the car forward or backward. It would be prudent to have a good working hand brake, as you might imagine. Not so important, if this is on a race car. Carry on... Dick -----Original Message----- From: emanteno at comcast.net Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 5:17 AM To: TRiumphs, 6Pack Subject: [6pack] Nissan Diff - Exhaust System Question I've just installed the Goodparts Nissan diff conversion in my TR6 and went to install a new ANSA exhaust system last night. The diff and the left side resonator want to occupy the same space. If you've done this conversion, I'd appreciate hearing what you have for an exhaust system, and what if any conflicts you had and were able to overcome. Thanks muchly, Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tr6taylor at webtv.net From rccpl1 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 25 15:21:28 2008 From: rccpl1 at yahoo.com (john doe) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] su carbs Message-ID: <114472.71835.qm@web30404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hi all still need help with this su conversion for a tr6 does anyone know what size needle is used the one i have is stamped bc anyone with the conversion know what their using ty From wayne at motorcarriage.com Fri Jul 25 16:30:48 2008 From: wayne at motorcarriage.com (Wayne Lee) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:30:48 -0400 Subject: [6pack] su carbs References: <114472.71835.qm@web30404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <528A6EAB162840C795BCE5D01CB591E1@D794W231> Hi TY, Most setups run either the BAG as supplied by Moss in their conversions. This is for the spring retained needle. I'm running BAE needles which are just about the same but the BAG's are a little leaner on the lower Rev range, and also a spring needle. I pulled the flange off of mine and ran them in non biased pistons. Joe Curto could set You up with the proper equivalent. I'm running a 75 with standard C/R, non EGR manifold with Ansa Exhaust, and the HS6's with K&N Filters. I average 23mpg on my rural route commute with a non Overdrive Box. Cheers, Wayne Lee Douglas, MA ----- Original Message ----- From: "john doe" To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: [6pack] su carbs > hi all still need help with this su conversion for a tr6 does anyone know > what size needle is used the one i have is stamped bc anyone with the > conversion know what their using ty > _______________________________________________ From forzion at maine.rr.com Fri Jul 25 18:49:06 2008 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (David Friedlander) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:49:06 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Rear Triumph Badge Install Message-ID: <488A7482.4060903@maine.rr.com> Hey guys.... Anyone ever mounted /re-mounted the TRIUMPH badge to the rear valance? The badge has two pins/posts on the back, meant for mounting with a push stop or some sort of clip. But how in the world can one gain access to the pin closest to the driver's side of the car? Its position, once the badge is pushed into place, is behind two layers of sheet metal inside and above the right rear tail light! Beats me! I can gain access to the pin on the passenger side of the car but not the other side. Any help/suggestions would be much appreciated!!! Thanks, Dave CF25194U/O/TBI From stan.foster at hp.com Fri Jul 25 19:17:16 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:17:16 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Rear Triumph Badge Install In-Reply-To: <488A7482.4060903@maine.rr.com> References: <488A7482.4060903@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF724E58D7AD0F@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Dave, I believe these badges are a push fit into small plastic inserts that have a flange on them that stop them from being pushed all the way through a hole. You push the inserts into suitably sized holes in the valence and the pins are a tight fit into the corresponding holes in the inserts so you don't have to get behind the panel. If you have an "Overdrive" badge that just hangs underneath on the same two pins on the TRIUMPH badge. TRF lists the sleeve as part number GHF1532, 28 cents each, you need 2. Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Friedlander Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:49 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Rear Triumph Badge Install Hey guys.... Anyone ever mounted /re-mounted the TRIUMPH badge to the rear valance? The badge has two pins/posts on the back, meant for mounting with a push stop or some sort of clip. But how in the world can one gain access to the pin closest to the driver's side of the car? Its position, once the badge is pushed into place, is behind two layers of sheet metal inside and above the right rear tail light! Beats me! I can gain access to the pin on the passenger side of the car but not the other side. Any help/suggestions would be much appreciated!!! Thanks, Dave CF25194U/O/TBI From jimjcmo at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 09:46:02 2008 From: jimjcmo at yahoo.com (Jim Jones) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Rear Triumph Badge Install In-Reply-To: <488A7482.4060903@maine.rr.com> Message-ID: <454648.75433.qm@web33508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I admit to using the hillbilly fix here in Missouri. I put a glob black weather strip adhesive on the back of the badge and pushed in in place. I had to remove it a year later and it came off without too much resistance, so it seems to be a good way to go in case you have to take it off later. Jim --- On Fri, 7/25/08, David Friedlander wrote: From: David Friedlander Subject: [6pack] Rear Triumph Badge Install To: 6pack at autox.team.net Date: Friday, July 25, 2008, 7:49 PM Hey guys.... Anyone ever mounted /re-mounted the TRIUMPH badge to the rear valance? The badge has two pins/posts on the back, meant for mounting with a push stop or some sort of clip. But how in the world can one gain access to the pin closest to the driver's side of the car? Its position, once the badge is pushed into place, is behind two layers of sheet metal inside and above the right rear tail light! Beats me! I can gain access to the pin on the passenger side of the car but not the other side. Any help/suggestions would be much appreciated!!! Thanks, Dave CF25194U/O/TBI 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as jimjcmo at yahoo.com From tpdwinch at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 12:28:32 2008 From: tpdwinch at yahoo.com (Dale) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 11:28:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Rear Triumph Badge Install Message-ID: <856666.30022.qm@web36108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dave Are you trying to take the badge off? If so, when I was going to paint mine, I first used a very small flat blade screwdriver to start to raise the emblem. Used tape on the paint so not to scratch it if you are not going to paint. Once up enough I used a 90 degree pick as a crow bar. Inserted the screwdriver further each time. Did this to each side, back and forth till it came out. There are small plastic inserts that hold it in place. Dale ----- Original Message ---- From: David Friedlander To: 6pack at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:49:06 PM Subject: [6pack] Rear Triumph Badge Install Hey guys.... Anyone ever mounted /re-mounted the TRIUMPH badge to the rear valance? The badge has two pins/posts on the back, meant for mounting with a push stop or some sort of clip. But how in the world can one gain access to the pin closest to the driver's side of the car? Its position, once the badge is pushed into place, is behind two layers of sheet metal inside and above the right rear tail light! Beats me! I can gain access to the pin on the passenger side of the car but not the other side. Any help/suggestions would be much appreciated!!! Thanks, Dave CF25194U/O/TBI _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as tpdwinch at yahoo.com From Jimandruthhome at aol.com Sat Jul 26 13:45:44 2008 From: Jimandruthhome at aol.com (Jimandruthhome at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:45:44 EDT Subject: [6pack] su needles fro TR6 Message-ID: Hi, KN (spring biased, originally a Volvo app, I think) have worked well for me. Joe Curto told me years ago that he was using CV (AH 3000 app if memory serves). Jim **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From Jimandruthhome at aol.com Sat Jul 26 13:59:22 2008 From: Jimandruthhome at aol.com (Jimandruthhome at aol.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:59:22 EDT Subject: [6pack] su carb needles Message-ID: Forgot to mention that the long spring inside the carb comes in different spring rates, which makes a difference also in how the carb performs. Basically the spring slows the rise of the piston, affecting air/fuel mix when staring from a dead stop and in other sudden demand situations. I've also heard of, though never felt the need myself, of folks shortening the spring to "custom tune." On my su's, with spring biased KN needles, the spring is yellow (the different rate springs are color coded). If you can get a copy of the Haynes SU carb manual, it explain the theory better than I. It also has a long list of needles with their dimensions and original applications. Also give Joe Curto a call. He is a pleasant and helpful guy and knows more about British carbs than anyone else I've ever met. His shop is in the Bronx, he advertises in the usual places. Jim **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From janah at att.net Sat Jul 26 15:15:17 2008 From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:15:17 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Off Topic Help? Message-ID: <2AEADCD82EFC49129EFD267C40DC2C06@p4home> Can anybody ID this car? http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/7551-7551-111032_60avantek_THUMB_1.jpg Thanks, John Cyg. From triumph.tr4 at gmail.com Sat Jul 26 16:13:07 2008 From: triumph.tr4 at gmail.com (Scott Tilton) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:13:07 -0500 Subject: [6pack] Off Topic Help? In-Reply-To: <2AEADCD82EFC49129EFD267C40DC2C06@p4home> References: <2AEADCD82EFC49129EFD267C40DC2C06@p4home> Message-ID: Looks kind of like a Facel Vega. Either that or something that came out of the Ghia house. (They did work for lotsa folks - including american companies. Scott Tilton Signature below blatantly stolen from Bud Rolofson: 70TR6 CC5#### (Good 6) 63TR4 CT157## (The Wreck-Almost Parts) 64TR4 CT25### (The Project) 97F-150 L TRUCKO (Triumph Support Vehicle) 1989 Honda Prelude Si 4WS (economic commuter Vehicle) On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 4:15 PM, John Cyganowski wrote: > Can anybody ID this car? > > > http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/7551-7551-111032_60avantek_THUMB_1.jpg > > Thanks, > John Cyg. > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as triumph.tr4 at gmail.com > -- From johnehorton at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 20:53:00 2008 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 19:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Rubber bumpers Message-ID: <741668.36632.qm@web51910.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello all. here are the rubber bumper set I took off my 76 TR6. I will sell them for 125.00 plus fedex to you. I think the set weights about 25 pounds. Rubber is in good shape with no tears or scuffs. If no one wants them I will put them on Ebay for 150.00 plus. John h. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of PICT0040.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of PICT0040.JPG] From johnehorton at yahoo.com Sat Jul 26 22:14:50 2008 From: johnehorton at yahoo.com (johnehorton at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Pictures Message-ID: <890904.44253.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I forgot to attach the pictures. John [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Pic1.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of pic2.JPG] From janah at att.net Sun Jul 27 06:21:09 2008 From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:21:09 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Off Topic Help? References: <2AEADCD82EFC49129EFD267C40DC2C06@p4home> <003201c8efa7$3fec5950$6267fd18@office> Message-ID: <0EF2C6F167A14A69B8BA1AD27E119D22@p4home> Thanks all- I found out that it is a Dodge Firearrow IV. John Cyg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wellbaum" To: "John Cyganowski" Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [6pack] Off Topic Help? > Could it be a Dual Ghia? > > Bill Wellbaum > Las Vegas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Cyganowski" > To: <6pack at autox.team.net> > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:15 PM > Subject: [6pack] Off Topic Help? > > >> Can anybody ID this car? >> >> http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/7551-7551-111032_60avantek_THUMB_1.jpg >> >> Thanks, >> John Cyg. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> 6pack at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> You are subscribed as wcwellbaum at cox.net From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Sun Jul 27 06:48:09 2008 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:48:09 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Pictures In-Reply-To: <890904.44253.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <890904.44253.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c8efe7$0aece400$210110ac@bobspc> John, You can't do attachments with the mail lists. They get automatically stripped out. Bob Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of johnehorton at yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 12:15 AM To: auto tox; TR6 Subject: [6pack] Pictures I forgot to attach the pictures. John [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Pic1.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of pic2.JPG] _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.156 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1575 - Release Date: 7/26/2008 4:18 PM From rpeglow at optonline.net Sun Jul 27 13:15:28 2008 From: rpeglow at optonline.net (Bob) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:15:28 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Stromberg help References: <840689.39911.qm@web43140.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000e01c8f01d$21d3ddf0$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> Hello, Early Stromberg carburetor (1970 TR6, 175 CD-2, tags missing) has bronze? slotted fuel bowl plug. Does this plug unscrew CCW? A PO removed crankcase hoses from these carburetors. If I restore the hoses it will change the mixture? Is this style carburetor mixture adjustable with the tool? What would be best carburetor manual Haynes TECHBOOK 10240? Regards, Bob E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10340e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ From Lfm614 at aol.com Sun Jul 27 13:03:45 2008 From: Lfm614 at aol.com (Lfm614 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:03:45 EDT Subject: [6pack] Stromberg help Message-ID: Bob, I have a 72 with CD-2's. The plug on mine pulls out from the bottom, it has plastic fingers that hold it in with an o-ring that seals. The hoses tie in behind the butterfly, so they should not affect the mixture but will affect vacuum, if you have the charcoal canister, I would reconnect. You can find your correct emission diagram in the online Moss Catalog. Yes I think the mixture is adjustable with the tool, but check the catalog as well, the early carb on 69's I believe did not have adjustable needles. Best carb info I have found is here free. Part I, II and specially III for what you are asking about. Lou In a message dated 7/27/2008 11:33:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, rpeglow at optonline.net writes: Hello, Early Stromberg carburetor (1970 TR6, 175 CD-2, tags missing) has bronze? slotted fuel bowl plug. Does this plug unscrew CCW? A PO removed crankcase hoses from these carburetors. If I restore the hoses it will change the mixture? Is this style carburetor mixture adjustable with the tool? What would be best carburetor manual Haynes TECHBOOK 10240? Regards, Bob E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10340e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as lfm614 at aol.com **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) From sumton at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 28 04:13:57 2008 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (Oliver) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:13:57 -0500 Subject: [6pack] amphicars References: <000001c88607$3d91fd90$210110ac@bobspc> Message-ID: <003a01c8f09a$a6cbc0e0$6615a8c0@garage.local> http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-51496 kind of off topic, but i believe they have triumph running gear From bratt at sasktel.net Sun Jul 27 16:49:16 2008 From: bratt at sasktel.net (Ed) Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 16:49:16 -0600 Subject: [6pack] su carb needles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1217198956.32024.19.camel@ed-desktop> Jim: While you have been discussing SU problems, I have been questioning whether to tell you about my recent experience with a pair of SU carburetors. Well, here goes. My longtime friend had a non-Triumph car in his backyard for 15 years. It was parked under a pair of pine trees, looking ugly, rusty and awful. I hated to see it go to the crusher because there were only 16,000 of these cars built. So, I called a tow truck and had it dragged over to my place. One day I wondered if it would star, so I hooked up the battery out of my truck, cleaned the distributor cap and rotor; checked out the wiring and found three real good wires and one so-so. Checked out the coil. It was Ok. Then I removed the tops off the SU's. The pistons were stuck. I sprayed them with oil and carburetor cleaner, and worked them free. Then I washed the pistons and needles in fuel injector cleaner, and got them so they would move up and down near freely. Next I hooked up a lawnmower gas tank hanging from the hood. I gave each carb a shot of spray ether, and turned the motor over--and it fired right up, and it ran; and purred like a kitten. If you are wondering, the car is a 1955 MG Magnette Sports Saloon which has been fitted with a pair of 1 3/4" SU's probably from a TR3. Ed Bratt Regina, Saskatchewan 1976 TR6 On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 15:59 -0400, Jimandruthhome at aol.com wrote: > Forgot to mention that the long spring inside the carb comes in different > spring rates, which makes a difference also in how the carb performs. > Basically the spring slows the rise of the piston, affecting air/fuel mix when > staring from a dead stop and in other sudden demand situations. I've also heard > of, though never felt the need myself, of folks shortening the spring to > "custom tune." > > On my su's, with spring biased KN needles, the spring is yellow (the > different rate springs are color coded). > > If you can get a copy of the Haynes SU carb manual, it explain the theory > better than I. It also has a long list of needles with their dimensions and > original applications. > > Also give Joe Curto a call. He is a pleasant and helpful guy and knows more > about British carbs than anyone else I've ever met. His shop is in the > Bronx, he advertises in the usual places. > > Jim > > > > **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for > FanHouse Fantasy Football today. > (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as bratt at sasktel.net From im_sloane at hotmail.com Mon Jul 28 09:32:39 2008 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:32:39 +0000 Subject: [6pack] amphicars In-Reply-To: <003a01c8f09a$a6cbc0e0$6615a8c0@garage.local> References: <000001c88607$3d91fd90$210110ac@bobspc> <003a01c8f09a$a6cbc0e0$6615a8c0@garage.local> Message-ID: SO Funny! Wow, those things must rust like mad. Did you notice most of them have their boating ID numbers on the front fender? (haha) In the blog someone noted that they leaked like crazy and had bilge pumps that couldn't keep up. Sloane :)> http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-51496> > kind of off topic, but i believe they have triumph running gear _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenge r2_072008 From jzagami at si.rr.com Mon Jul 28 17:08:33 2008 From: jzagami at si.rr.com (joseph zagami) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:08:33 -0400 Subject: [6pack] blended gas Message-ID: <001401c8f106$dbb81030$6600a8c0@Bigboy> Hello, Has anyone had experience with continually driving their cars on E10 gas ? I am in Staten Island N.Y. and have no choice for unblended. There seems to be a debate on the affects of reformulated gas on our older cars. Regards, Joseph 71Tr6 From glccrc at ptd.net Mon Jul 28 19:02:06 2008 From: glccrc at ptd.net (glc / crc) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:02:06 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Simon? need Miata seat adaptors In-Reply-To: <001401c8f106$dbb81030$6600a8c0@Bigboy> Message-ID: <20080729010152.AF8C1187655@autox.team.net> I'd emailed simon blackburn about his miata seat adaptors, hoping to buy a pair, and heard no reply after a week or two. Email address was from 2002, I believe off TR Register post. Would anyone have a newer email address for him? While in LBC land 2 weeks isn't long, it is with the redhead's directive to "make sure its presentable" when told about Triumph being marque of the year, and the laps of the old and new courses at the Glen now only 5 weeks away. Paint 8/11 Tan interior and (hopefully) miata seats immediately afterward Weekend after labor day- drive it to the Glen and enjoy! Making the seat exchange more inviting is the headrest speakers, an excuse to finally get tunes working and a home for the ipod. All the best, George church From stan.foster at hp.com Mon Jul 28 19:32:20 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:32:20 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Simon? need Miata seat adaptors In-Reply-To: <20080729010152.AF8C1187655@autox.team.net> References: <001401c8f106$dbb81030$6600a8c0@Bigboy> <20080729010152.AF8C1187655@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF724E58D7B000@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> George, I cant help you with an email address for Simon but having done this conversion myself including making the brackets I can send you a doc that you can use to either make your own (1x1 and 1x1.5 angle iron, steel plate, local welder to join the parts together) or to give to a local metal fab shop to build. The longest part of the whole project is waiting for the paint on the brackets to dry.. Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of glc / crc Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:02 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Simon? need Miata seat adaptors I'd emailed simon blackburn about his miata seat adaptors, hoping to buy a pair, and heard no reply after a week or two. Email address was from 2002, I believe off TR Register post. Would anyone have a newer email address for him? While in LBC land 2 weeks isn't long, it is with the redhead's directive to "make sure its presentable" when told about Triumph being marque of the year, and the laps of the old and new courses at the Glen now only 5 weeks away. Paint 8/11 Tan interior and (hopefully) miata seats immediately afterward Weekend after labor day- drive it to the Glen and enjoy! Making the seat exchange more inviting is the headrest speakers, an excuse to finally get tunes working and a home for the ipod. All the best, George church From nafzigerg at yahoo.com Mon Jul 28 20:15:03 2008 From: nafzigerg at yahoo.com (Gary Nafziger) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] (no subject) Message-ID: <607756.69624.qm@web59601.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> just a quick question concerning "deiseling" where the engine wants to keep running after the switch is turned off. I've just overhauled my tr-6 and am 200 miles into breaking the engine in. Im thinking this could be a problem of timing and/or fuel delivery? too rich? the carbs have not been re-tuned since the overhaul so they're still set with the old worn engine. any ideas? gary nafziger From alanatkinson at hotmail.com Mon Jul 28 20:18:33 2008 From: alanatkinson at hotmail.com (Alan Atkinson) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:18:33 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Looking for a few good photos Message-ID: Of your original color TR6 or 250. I'm collecting a gallery for the 6-Pack site (you can see it here: http://www.6-pack.org/sixpack//index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=5 &Itemid=42) of original colored vehicles for reference. The more the merrier - preferably resolutions 1024x768 or higher. Tell me your name and the color and you'll get credited under the image. Please send any pictures you feel able to contribute to webmaster at 6-pack.org. Thanks in advance for your help, Alan _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live for mobile, your contacts travel with you. http://www.windowslive.com/mobile/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_mobile_0720 08 From N197TR4 at cs.com Mon Jul 28 20:35:36 2008 From: N197TR4 at cs.com (N197TR4 at cs.com) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:35:36 EDT Subject: [6pack] Simon? need Miata seat adaptors Message-ID: Jack Drews and my son just completed the design and manufacture of the Miata Seat Adapters. Done on production tooling and powder coated, they feature the hardware kit as well. (If anyone is looking for Miata Seats, there are two sets in New Jersey available for sale.) Contact Jack Drews, if interested in the adapters...NFI Joe Alexander > George, I cant help you with an email address for Simon but having done this > conversion myself including making the brackets I can send you a doc that you > can use to either make your own (1x1 and 1x1.5 angle iron, steel plate, local > welder to join the parts together) or to give to a local metal fab shop to > build. The longest part of the whole project is waiting for the paint on the > brackets to dry.. > > Stan > > From forzion at maine.rr.com Tue Jul 29 07:05:37 2008 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (forzion at maine.rr.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 9:05:37 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Side view mirrors Message-ID: <13268381.622881217336737741.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> Greetings, List! I am preparing to buy some new side view mirrors for my Six. I'd prefer the models that bolt-in from underneath to the surface mount screw-in version I presently have. The new ones are the classic bullet-shaped mirrors and they are available in either flat glass or convex. Has anyone used convex side mirrors? Are they OK or do they actually make the driving more difficult? Preferences, anyone? Thanks for any inputs... Dave '74-Six From rpeglow at optonline.net Tue Jul 29 10:36:46 2008 From: rpeglow at optonline.net (Bob) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:36:46 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Side view mirrors References: <13268381.622881217336737741.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> Message-ID: <005801c8f199$4ad013e0$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> Hi Dave, Convex works fine on the passenger door. Modern cars have this setup now. Non-convex on passenger door is useless especially if it is mounted to match driver door mounted mirror. http://www.alfacybersite.com/ACSTalbo.html I don't know how these mirrors mount, the old one I have is bolted from the bottom. A PO of my car put a slightly convex mirror on drivers door (none on pass door), I could not get used to it. I moved the convex mirror to pass door only because it is a period correct mirror and put a new flat mirror on drivers door. If it were more convex it would be better but it does help. Regards, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:05 AM Subject: [6pack] Side view mirrors > Greetings, List! > > I am preparing to buy some new side view mirrors for my Six. I'd prefer the models that bolt-in from underneath to the surface mount screw-in version I presently have. The new ones are the classic bullet-shaped mirrors and they are available in either flat glass or convex. Has anyone used convex side mirrors? Are they OK or do they actually make the driving more difficult? Preferences, anyone? > > Thanks for any inputs... > > Dave > '74-Six > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as rpeglow at optonline.net > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) > Database version: 5.10340e > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10340e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ From stan.foster at hp.com Tue Jul 29 07:49:07 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:49:07 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Side view mirrors In-Reply-To: <005801c8f199$4ad013e0$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> References: <13268381.622881217336737741.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> <005801c8f199$4ad013e0$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF724E58D7B0B4@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> I had a long email discussion with Joe Bowtie Grant about bullet door mirrors a while back and I think we concluded that the Talbot mirrors were the bees knees as far as quality, form and function were concerned although a bit pricey. Short of a stick-on convex mirror (which is what I currently have on the passenger side) these were the only bullet mirrors that we found that came with a convex glass option. http://talbotco.com/talbot_mirror.htm Around that time Dick Taylor said he had managed to re-cut an off the shelf convex mirror into a suitable size for the bullets (typically 4 inches) but I don't know that he ever revealed the secret of that technique. Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:37 PM To: forzion at maine.rr.com; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Side view mirrors Hi Dave, Convex works fine on the passenger door. Modern cars have this setup now. Non-convex on passenger door is useless especially if it is mounted to match driver door mounted mirror. http://www.alfacybersite.com/ACSTalbo.html I don't know how these mirrors mount, the old one I have is bolted from the bottom. A PO of my car put a slightly convex mirror on drivers door (none on pass door), I could not get used to it. I moved the convex mirror to pass door only because it is a period correct mirror and put a new flat mirror on drivers door. If it were more convex it would be better but it does help. Regards, Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <6pack at autox.team.net> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:05 AM Subject: [6pack] Side view mirrors > Greetings, List! > > I am preparing to buy some new side view mirrors for my Six. I'd prefer the models that bolt-in from underneath to the surface mount screw-in version I presently have. The new ones are the classic bullet-shaped mirrors and they are available in either flat glass or convex. Has anyone used convex side mirrors? Are they OK or do they actually make the driving more difficult? Preferences, anyone? > > Thanks for any inputs... > > Dave > '74-Six From drsandner at embarqmail.com Tue Jul 29 07:53:34 2008 From: drsandner at embarqmail.com (J SANDNER) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] tr6 Message-ID: <1573360822.16597791217339614111.JavaMail.root@md21.embarq.synacor.com> listers, i foud a 1972 tr6 for sale in port jervis NY yesterday. metalflake maple. pristine. 80k miles. rebuilt motor, new rad. red line tires, needs new tires. car appears to be a 'puff'. no shipwrights disease. (have leftthe business card upstairs) contact me off list asking $11,800 (i think) will gladly do an inspection of car for you. randy sandner 74.5 tr6, 919 607 4405 From im_sloane at hotmail.com Tue Jul 29 07:59:30 2008 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:59:30 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Miata seat conversion In-Reply-To: <200807242218.m6OMIv9O048221@ns3.geneseo.net> References: <200807242218.m6OMIv9O048221@ns3.geneseo.net> Message-ID: I see no problem making this information about Miata seats available to the entire group. Just please reply off-line to keep it at minimum. Jack's email vinttr4 at geneseo.net. It is great they have gone to the trouble to produce these for us. The 6-pack community will want to know they're available. NFI to me, of course. Sloane :) 69-Six> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:18:56 -0500> To: im_sloane at hotmail.com> From: vinttr4 at geneseo.net> Subject: > > The Triumph seat adapter kits, for installing Miata seats in your TR4 > - TR6, will be available to ship in about two weeks. Pilot run parts > have been used by four owners to install their seats and everyone is > very pleased with them. It takes about two hours to install a pair of > seats using this kit.> > The kit is priced at $59.95 plus $10 for shipping and packaging, and > includes the new hardware required.> > To order, please send $69.95 by personal check or PayPal to> > Jack W. Drews> 514 North Vail Street> Geneseo IL 61254> > Be sure to send me your shipping address.> > > uncle jack > > > _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From grant at bowtie6.com Tue Jul 29 08:04:33 2008 From: grant at bowtie6.com (Joseph Grant) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:04:33 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Side view mirrors In-Reply-To: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF724E58D7B0B4@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <13268381.622881217336737741.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> <005801c8f199$4ad013e0$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF724E58D7B0B4@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <000601c8f184$08003eb0$1800bc10$@com> I will agree with Stan. The Talbot mirrors are the only way to go if you want the very best. Do I have a set yet? No. Note I said yet! :) Seriously, these things are some sort of nice but as always, you pay for what you get. They are impressive both in looks as well as in price. In the meantime, I have a stick on convex on my right hand side mirror. It works suitable well for the purpose that it is there for. Does it work 100% correct - not really - but it works well enough. Hope this helps. Joe '72 TR6 - CC77169 http://www.bowtie6.com/ -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+grant=bowtie6.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+grant=bowtie6.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Foster, Stan Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 09:49 To: Bob; forzion at maine.rr.com; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Side view mirrors I had a long email discussion with Joe Bowtie Grant about bullet door mirrors a while back and I think we concluded that the Talbot mirrors were the bees knees as far as quality, form and function were concerned although a bit pricey. Short of a stick-on convex mirror (which is what I currently have on the passenger side) these were the only bullet mirrors that we found that came with a convex glass option. http://talbotco.com/talbot_mirror.htm Around that time Dick Taylor said he had managed to re-cut an off the shelf convex mirror into a suitable size for the bullets (typically 4 inches) but I don't know that he ever revealed the secret of that technique. Stan From forzion at maine.rr.com Tue Jul 29 08:22:56 2008 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (forzion at maine.rr.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:22:56 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Side view mirrors Message-ID: <23367498.639141217341376494.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> Tex (England) offers very nice polished stainless mirrors, with both convext and flat glass offerings. Go to http://www.texautomotive.com/classic_exterior_mirrors.html See the MTR01 and MTR02. They are identical except, of course, for the glass. So, one could have a convex on the passenger side and a flat glass on the driver's side. Tex has quoted MTR-02's at 18.99 Pounds, each + about 15 Pounds shipping for a PAIR. Talbot wants over $500 for a set. I'm not in that tax bracket and don't expect to be, anytime soon. I am happy for those of you who are! But the Tex mirrors look pretty good to me; I just wanted to hear the experiences of others so I could select the best way to go. I am thinking one MTR01 (driver's side) and one MTR02 (passenger side). The MTR01 is, I believe, 3 Pounds less. Dave ---- Joseph Grant wrote: > I will agree with Stan. The Talbot mirrors are the only way to go if you > want the very best. Do I have a set yet? No. Note I said yet! :) > Seriously, these things are some sort of nice but as always, you pay for > what you get. They are impressive both in looks as well as in price. > > In the meantime, I have a stick on convex on my right hand side mirror. It > works suitable well for the purpose that it is there for. Does it work 100% > correct - not really - but it works well enough. > > Hope this helps. > > Joe > '72 TR6 - CC77169 > http://www.bowtie6.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: 6pack-bounces+grant=bowtie6.com at autox.team.net > [mailto:6pack-bounces+grant=bowtie6.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Foster, > Stan > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 09:49 > To: Bob; forzion at maine.rr.com; 6pack at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [6pack] Side view mirrors > > I had a long email discussion with Joe Bowtie Grant about bullet door > mirrors > a while back and I think we concluded that the Talbot mirrors were the bees > knees as far as quality, form and function were concerned although a bit > pricey. Short of a stick-on convex mirror (which is what I currently have on > the passenger side) these were the only bullet mirrors that we found that > came > with a convex glass option. > > http://talbotco.com/talbot_mirror.htm > > > Around that time Dick Taylor said he had managed to re-cut an off the shelf > convex mirror into a suitable size for the bullets (typically 4 inches) but > I > don't know that he ever revealed the secret of that technique. > > Stan From janah at att.net Tue Jul 29 08:55:56 2008 From: janah at att.net (John Cyganowski) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:55:56 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Side View Mirrors Message-ID: <9CF9C7B4E67F471FA5C2CEE692FEBEDA@p4home> I have convex mirrors mounted on the wings (fenders) of my car and I really like them although they do take some getting used to. http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/4985-4985-111032_11john27scar28929.jpg Bascially if you see a car in one of them Don't Pull Out! Regards, John Cyg From forzion at maine.rr.com Tue Jul 29 09:57:56 2008 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (forzion at maine.rr.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:57:56 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Side View Mirrors Message-ID: <2837098.660481217347076411.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> John; Do you think that the driver's side would be better off being flat glass and the maybe passenger side as convex glass? That's the way I'm "leaning," at present.... Dave ---- John Cyganowski wrote: > I have convex mirrors mounted on the wings (fenders) of my car and I really > like them although they do take some getting used to. > > http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/4985-4985-111032_11john27scar28929.jpg > > Bascially if you see a car in one of them Don't Pull Out! > > Regards, > John Cyg From janah at att.net Tue Jul 29 10:33:10 2008 From: janah at att.net (janah at att.net) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:33:10 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Side View Mirrors In-Reply-To: <2837098.660481217347076411.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> Message-ID: <072920081633.27974.488F4645000F24AF00006D4622230706129B0A02D29B9B0EBF080E020E06@att.net> Hard to say. The bullet racing mirrors are lovely cosmetically, but functionally not so great because of the narrow field of view. I have heard folks say that the flat mirror on the passenger side it not worth much. Perhaps the convex shape will help. I suppose if you might be able to find some plastic mirrors and dummy something up. Even a driveway test would give you some feeling for how this would work. John Cyg -------------- Original message from : -------------- > John; > Do you think that the driver's side would be better off being flat glass and the maybe passenger side as convex glass? That's the way I'm "leaning," at > present.... > > Dave > > ---- John Cyganowski wrote: > > I have convex mirrors mounted on the wings (fenders) of my car and I really > > like them although they do take some getting used to. > > > > http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/4985-4985-111032_11john27scar28929.jpg > > > > Bascially if you see a car in one of them Don't Pull Out! > > > > Regards, > > John Cyg From samuelsma at aol.com Tue Jul 29 10:53:35 2008 From: samuelsma at aol.com (samuelsma at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:53:35 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Miata seat conversion Message-ID: <8CABFB2C61CC546-105C-2739@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> Listers: Just an observation--I have a 2005 Mazdaspeed MX5 (factory Miata turbo) with about 8,000 miles on it, and a '76 TR6.? I think the seats in the TR6 are at least as comfortable as those in the Miata.? They are certainly "cushier."? The headrest isn't as modern a design, so I imagine the Miata seats would be safer in a rear-ender, but I can't think of another reason to switch from the stock seats to those from the Miata.? What is the reason to do so? Michael '76 Tahiti blue From lfm614 at aol.com Tue Jul 29 11:01:52 2008 From: lfm614 at aol.com (lfm614 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:01:52 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Side View Mirrors Message-ID: <866226237-1217350913-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-485835773-@bxe005.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I have flat glass bullets on both sides, passenger did not adjust enough to make it work so I added the stick on convex. Works fine now. Lou ------Original Message------ From: janah at att.net Sender: 6pack-bounces+lfm614=aol.com at autox.team.net To: forzion at maine.rr.com Cc: TR-6 list Sent: Jul 29, 2008 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [6pack] Side View Mirrors Hard to say. The bullet racing mirrors are lovely cosmetically, but functionally not so great because of the narrow field of view. I have heard folks say that the flat mirror on the passenger side it not worth much. Perhaps the convex shape will help. I suppose if you might be able to find some plastic mirrors and dummy something up. Even a driveway test would give you some feeling for how this would work. John Cyg -------------- Original message from : -------------- > John; > Do you think that the driver's side would be better off being flat glass and the maybe passenger side as convex glass? That's the way I'm "leaning," at > present.... > > Dave > > ---- John Cyganowski wrote: > > I have convex mirrors mounted on the wings (fenders) of my car and I really > > like them although they do take some getting used to. > > > > http://www.triumphowners.com/uploaded/34/4985-4985-111032_11john27scar28929.jpg > > > > Bascially if you see a car in one of them Don't Pull Out! > > > > Regards, > > John Cyg _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as lfm614 at aol.com From samuelsma at aol.com Tue Jul 29 11:04:20 2008 From: samuelsma at aol.com (samuelsma at aol.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:04:20 -0400 Subject: [6pack] vintage car market Message-ID: <8CABFB446BBA455-105C-27C8@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> Listers: As?some of you know (those who peruse TR6 listings on eBay from time to time), I have my Tahiti blue '76 on eBay again.? It generally gets up to about $10-12,000 and then stalls.? I bought the car for $16,000 and have a lot more money in it, and actually had a local offer of $17,250 several months ago that I should have taken but did not and the buyer lost interest.? I am now using a 3rd party service to try to sell the car, but I'm not confident that it will make any difference at this point.? I'm willing to take what I paid for the car, but not less. The point of this email is not to complain, but to inquire about 2 things: 1.? Has the vintage car market (or at least the TR6 market) gotten as soft as it seems to me?? There are 29 cars on eBay right now, many quite nice, with buy-it-now prices as high as the low 20's.? Is anyone getting good money for a TR6 at this point? 2.? Assuming that I can't get a good offer, I might consider just storing the car for 2-3 years and then selling in a stronger market.? However, I really want to get the car out of my garage to make room for my daily driver, which is baking in the Florida sun.? Storage in Miami is $300-400/month.? If I were to put it in a more rural storage place elsewhere in Florida, would it be much cheaper?? And could I store it in such a way that the car would be in good shape when I was finally ready to resurrect it? Thanks as always. Michael '76 Tahiti blue CF 57044U From emanteno at comcast.net Tue Jul 29 11:06:08 2008 From: emanteno at comcast.net (emanteno at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:06:08 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Miata seat conversion Message-ID: <072920081706.26477.488F4E0000022BDD0000676D2200734364970A9D010507@comcast.net> -------------- Original message -------------- From: samuelsma at aol.com > but I can't think of another reason to switch from the stock > seats to those from the Miata.? What is the reason to do so? In my case, the Miata seats were way less expensive than replacing the dried up foam in my stock seats. Plus mine are cloth inserts, which I feel are much more comfortable than the vinyl stock seats. Finally, mine have the speakers in the headrests. Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Jul 29 11:18:12 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] Miata seat conversion In-Reply-To: <8CABFB2C61CC546-105C-2739@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CABFB2C61CC546-105C-2739@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 samuelsma at aol.com wrote: > Listers: > > Just an observation--I have a 2005 Mazdaspeed MX5 (factory Miata turbo) > with about 8,000 miles on it, and a '76 TR6.? I think the seats in the > TR6 are at least as comfortable as those in the Miata.? They are > certainly "cushier."? The headrest isn't as modern a design, so I > imagine the Miata seats would be safer in a rear-ender, but I can't > think of another reason to switch from the stock seats to those from the > Miata.? What is the reason to do so? Because you can update. There are some folks in the Triumph community that have taken to improving the design, so to speak, of the Triumph TR6. That's not a bad thing. If anything it's actually good because it keeps interest in the car strong. Sure the "purists" can shudder - OMG, parts from a Mazda in a Triumph! But seriously, we're still playing with these things a full 32 years after the last one left Coventry. Not only that, but finding new ways to play with them. How kool is that? Me - I'd be trying to figure out how to fit a Kirkey Intermediate road race seat. Oh wait, I already did! > Michael > '76 Tahiti blue Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From stan.foster at hp.com Tue Jul 29 11:27:00 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:27:00 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Miata seat conversion In-Reply-To: <072920081706.26477.488F4E0000022BDD0000676D2200734364970A9D010507@comcast.net> References: <072920081706.26477.488F4E0000022BDD0000676D2200734364970A9D010507@comcast.net> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF724E58D7B187@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Agreed on all counts and that sums up my situation too. I paid around $300 for a pair on eBay a few years ago and they had new covers on them. A refurb kit for the standard seats is approaching $1000 for the pair. I fully intend to refurb my original seats and I have since bought the kits when they were on sale but I will have to sell the concept of installing them to my wife who loves the Miata seats The one downside, they don't quite look right in my opinion although they are consistent with the early TR6 seats minus the foldability of the headrest. Adding a black rollbar helped with the appearance as it added a bit more infrastructure so the seats are less prominent. Overall the fabric covers and the additional side and back support make them more comfortable than the standard vinyl seats and once upgraded, the speakers in the headrests deliver audio that you can hear even at speed since you have two speakers in each headrest inches from your ears. You do need to get the right Miata seats because at some point Mazda fixed the audio issues that made them put tweeters in the headrests and the later model seats don't have them. Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of emanteno at comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:06 PM To: samuelsma at aol.com; 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Miata seat conversion -------------- Original message -------------- From: samuelsma at aol.com > but I can't think of another reason to switch from the stock > seats to those from the Miata.? What is the reason to do so? In my case, the Miata seats were way less expensive than replacing the dried up foam in my stock seats. Plus mine are cloth inserts, which I feel are much more comfortable than the vinyl stock seats. Finally, mine have the speakers in the headrests. Irv Korey 74 TR6 CF22767U Highland Park, IL From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Jul 29 11:42:03 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:42:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] vintage car market In-Reply-To: <8CABFB446BBA455-105C-27C8@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CABFB446BBA455-105C-27C8@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Hi, You ask: has the car market gotten soft? As of 6 months ago, pundits would have you believe that things are as strong as ever. But, and not unlike the "downturn" in the late 80's, the dominos eventually did fall. I have a hunch that with free and easy cash drying up at the very least the prices will fall back some (obviously depending on the car in question) and that may have already started. Bottom line: thank the Gods that you don't have $1m in your car because with the exception of the truely rare automobile, those cars will lose $$$ while the economy shales out. Me - I never think of cars as an investment. I think of them as FUN. Of course I never sell them either, they usually go away on the end of the hook or to the shredder... but that's another conversation. rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rpeglow at optonline.net Tue Jul 29 15:04:14 2008 From: rpeglow at optonline.net (Bob) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:04:14 -0700 Subject: [6pack] 6pack References: <8CABFB2C61CC546-105C-2739@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <006101c8f1be$a85c7150$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> 6pack E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (5.5.1.322) Database version: 5.10340e http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor/ From anabil007 at comcast.net Tue Jul 29 12:02:58 2008 From: anabil007 at comcast.net (Bill & AnnaBelle) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:02:58 -0700 Subject: [6pack] Side view mirrors In-Reply-To: <005801c8f199$4ad013e0$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> References: <13268381.622881217336737741.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> <005801c8f199$4ad013e0$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> Message-ID: Herman Van den Akker turned me on to the "autobahn" mirror for the passenger side. For the TR6 we made a detachable bracket (for the Judges), and for the TR3 I just glued it to the dash top ... a small mirror with remarkable optical clarity ... around $25 in the Autosport Catalog. >Hi Dave, >Convex works fine on the passenger door. Modern cars have this setup now. >Non-convex on passenger door is useless especially if it is mounted to match >driver door mounted mirror. >http://www.alfacybersite.com/ACSTalbo.html I don't know how these mirrors >mount, the old one I have is bolted from the bottom. >A PO of my car put a slightly convex mirror on drivers door (none on pass >door), I could not get used to it. >I moved the convex mirror to pass door only because it is a period correct >mirror and put a new flat mirror on drivers door. >If it were more convex it would be better but it does help. >Regards, >Bob > -- Bill Pugh 1957 TR3 TS16765L aka Casper AnnaBelle Pugh 1970 TR6 CC59179L aka Rosey Wallace, CA From lang at isis.mit.edu Tue Jul 29 12:37:11 2008 From: lang at isis.mit.edu (Robert Lang) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:37:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [6pack] 6pack In-Reply-To: <006101c8f1be$a85c7150$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> References: <8CABFB2C61CC546-105C-2739@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> <006101c8f1be$a85c7150$23f37b45@gpcorporate.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Bob wrote: > 6pack 12 pack! :-0 rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From forzion at maine.rr.com Tue Jul 29 13:58:59 2008 From: forzion at maine.rr.com (forzion at maine.rr.com) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:58:59 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Dangerous Tires Message-ID: <10849968.714511217361539676.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> Not sure how many of you caught this when it came out, earlier this summer but, here is an ABC News Investigative Report on the sale of old [dangerous] tires, by some big retailers. It's an easy code to check (but we may not like what we see!). See the vieo and story at: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4822250&page=1 Dave From rccpl1 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 29 14:02:10 2008 From: rccpl1 at yahoo.com (john doe) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] carbs Message-ID: <820272.88467.qm@web30406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> have a pair of su's that i can't get to run for nothing anyone have a pair of strombergs that they want to get rid of From standardtriumph at btinternet.com Tue Jul 29 14:09:45 2008 From: standardtriumph at btinternet.com (John Macartney) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:09:45 +0100 Subject: [6pack] Side view mirrors References: <23367498.639141217341376494.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> Message-ID: <053701c8f1b7$0ca617e0$0201a8c0@Bevan> Dave (forzion at maine.rr.com) wrote: > Tex (England) offers very nice polished stainless mirrors, with both convext and flat glass > offerings. Go to http://www.texautomotive.com/classic_exterior_mirrors.html > See the MTR01 and MTR02. They are identical except, of course, for the glass. So, one could have a > convex on the passenger side and a flat glass on the driver's side. Tex has quoted MTR-02's at > 18.99 Pounds, each + about 15 Pounds shipping for a PAIR. NFI myself but I can quote total satisfaction for all Tex products. For those who might wish to replicate Standard-Triumph approved accessories, the MS106C is the one the company offered - and fitted to all company owned vehicles. I've got two on my own car and they have the added advantage of having a swinging stem so you can have the mirror higher or lower as you need. The mirror itself is adjustable and has a spring-loaded base so if it gets knocked in a car park, it'll spring back to its previously set position. Not suitable for door mounting but forward down on the front wings (fenders) Jonmac From davidaschenck at comcast.net Tue Jul 29 16:46:18 2008 From: davidaschenck at comcast.net (David A. Schenck) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:46:18 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Valve Seals Message-ID: <20080729224614.40576187672@autox.team.net> I am having some minor work done on the head of my 250. The machine shop asked if I could find valve seals - rubber rings for the top of the valves. I saw the old ones on the valves when they were removed but I can't find them in catalogs and heard from someone that Triumph never used valve seals. Is there any reason to search them out and find something to use - nothing in Moss? Or is it just fine not to use them. Thanks, Dave '68 TR250 Towson, MD From stan.foster at hp.com Tue Jul 29 18:31:54 2008 From: stan.foster at hp.com (Foster, Stan) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:31:54 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Valve Seals In-Reply-To: <20080729224614.40576187672@autox.team.net> References: <20080729224614.40576187672@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <41D3B4ED5AF2A2498846C82A9834AF724E59660EEA@GVW0414X.americas.hpqcorp.net> Dave, to the best of my knowledge seals were never used on the 6 cyl engines and they are probably not required when using new steel valve guides. The bronze guides need bigger clearances and tend to allow oil to pass even when new and Richard Good sells a set of specially machined bronze guides that take a small viton seal to discourage this. http://www.goodparts.com/shop/index.php?productID=261 Stan -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David A. Schenck Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:46 PM To: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: [6pack] Valve Seals I am having some minor work done on the head of my 250. The machine shop asked if I could find valve seals - rubber rings for the top of the valves. I saw the old ones on the valves when they were removed but I can't find them in catalogs and heard from someone that Triumph never used valve seals. Is there any reason to search them out and find something to use - nothing in Moss? Or is it just fine not to use them. Thanks, Dave '68 TR250 Towson, MD From alanatkinson at hotmail.com Tue Jul 29 18:51:06 2008 From: alanatkinson at hotmail.com (Alan Atkinson) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:51:06 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Dangerous Tires In-Reply-To: <10849968.714511217361539676.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> References: <10849968.714511217361539676.JavaMail.root@hrndva-web14-z02> Message-ID: There's been a thread on it on the website - for those who haven't seen it: http://www.6-pack.org/sixpack/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=6724 > Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:58:59 -0400> From: forzion at maine.rr.com> To: 6pack at autox.team.net> Subject: [6pack] Dangerous Tires> > Not sure how many of you caught this when it came out, earlier this summer but, here is an ABC News Investigative Report on the sale of old [dangerous] tires, by some big retailers. It's an easy code to check (but we may not like what we see!).> > See the vieo and story at:> http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4822250&page=1> > Dave> _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > 6pack at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack> > http://www.team.net/archive> > You are subscribed as alanatkinson at hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Time for vacation? WIN what you need- enter now! http://www.gowindowslive.com/summergiveaway/?ocid=tag_jlyhm From tr6parts at charter.net Tue Jul 29 19:12:53 2008 From: tr6parts at charter.net (Alan Salvatore) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:12:53 -0400 Subject: [6pack] TR6 wheels Message-ID: <00cd01c8f1e1$64b68d00$d44a9e18@alan> I was wondering if anyone knew if there was enough room to fit a 17 inch wheel with a 4.4 back spacing on a TR6. thanks Al From im_sloane at hotmail.com Wed Jul 30 05:43:17 2008 From: im_sloane at hotmail.com (im sloane) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:43:17 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Miata seat conversion In-Reply-To: <8CABFB2C61CC546-105C-2739@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CABFB2C61CC546-105C-2739@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: Yes, Totally a cost issue for us. Take care of your original seats if you're lucky enough to have a good pair. Our Miata seats look great and cost $60 at a local junk yard + $30 for a professional cleaning. The Mazda design looks very simlar to the 69-72 seat, which to me looks great on any year. They can be difficult to find, but worth the hunt if you need them. The originals will get recovered and replaced some day. BTW, as for mounting, I took an unorthodoxed approach to the conversion. I fashioned a bracket to connect the Miata seats (minus the Miata rails) to the Triumph seat rails using a 3 ft piece of angle-iron, cut into 4 pieces. Basically made the bottom of the Miata seat look and function like the bottom of the Triumph seat. It tilts forward, but of course doesn't have a catch to connect at the rear. Only taken one test drive, so not sure how well the design will hold up under extended use, but the fit seems just right. Sloane :) _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch when you're away with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenge r2_072008 From jb_2email at yahoo.com Wed Jul 30 12:04:59 2008 From: jb_2email at yahoo.com (J B) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [6pack] Side View Mirrors In-Reply-To: <866226237-1217350913-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-485835773-@bxe005.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <526379.33111.qm@web57215.mail.re3.yahoo.com> What size convex mirror did you use and where did you buy it? Thanks, JohnB Chicago '74 TR6 > I have flat glass bullets on both sides, passenger did not > adjust enough to make it work so I added the stick on > convex. Works fine now. > > Lou From lfm614 at aol.com Wed Jul 30 12:24:55 2008 From: lfm614 at aol.com (lfm614 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:24:55 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Side View Mirrors Message-ID: <1847872238-1217442299-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-482289901-@bxe005.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> 3 3/4", got it at Walmart for about $2. Lou ------Original Message------ From: J B Sender: 6pack-bounces+lfm614=aol.com at autox.team.net Cc: TR-6 list ReplyTo: jb_2email at yahoo.com Sent: Jul 30, 2008 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [6pack] Side View Mirrors What size convex mirror did you use and where did you buy it? Thanks, JohnB Chicago '74 TR6 > I have flat glass bullets on both sides, passenger did not > adjust enough to make it work so I added the stick on > convex. Works fine now. > > Lou 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as lfm614 at aol.com From 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org Wed Jul 30 17:17:44 2008 From: 75TR6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org (Bob Danielson) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:17:44 -0400 Subject: [6pack] Miata seat conversion In-Reply-To: References: <8CABFB2C61CC546-105C-2739@webmail-ne02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <000901c8f29a$7c596d60$210110ac@bobspc> OMG Bob.... You're describing my car........Toyota 5 speed and Nissan Diff. People are calling it a TRIOTASAN, If I were to add the Mazda seats would it then be a.....TRI-OTA-SAN-AZDA????? The shame of it all ;-) And I'm not even including the GM parts for the TBI conversion! Bob Danielson 1975 TR6 CF38503U Running w/ Throttle Body Injection Toyota 5 Speed & Nissan LSD http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces+75tr6=tr6.danielsonfamily.org at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Lang Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:18 PM To: samuelsma at aol.com Cc: 6pack at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Miata seat conversion On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 samuelsma at aol.com wrote: > Listers: > > Just an observation--I have a 2005 Mazdaspeed MX5 (factory Miata > turbo) with about 8,000 miles on it, and a '76 TR6.? I think the seats > in the > TR6 are at least as comfortable as those in the Miata.? They are > certainly "cushier."? The headrest isn't as modern a design, so I > imagine the Miata seats would be safer in a rear-ender, but I can't > think of another reason to switch from the stock seats to those from > the Miata.? What is the reason to do so? Because you can update. There are some folks in the Triumph community that have taken to improving the design, so to speak, of the Triumph TR6. That's not a bad thing. If anything it's actually good because it keeps interest in the car strong. Sure the "purists" can shudder - OMG, parts from a Mazda in a Triumph! But seriously, we're still playing with these things a full 32 years after the last one left Coventry. Not only that, but finding new ways to play with them. How kool is that? Me - I'd be trying to figure out how to fit a Kirkey Intermediate road race seat. Oh wait, I already did! > Michael > '76 Tahiti blue Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang NER/SCCA | This space for rent Solo Chair 2008 TR6 40 F Prepared | Triumph! Voice:781-438-2568 FAX: 617-258-9535 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 6pack at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack http://www.team.net/archive You are subscribed as 75tr6 at tr6.danielsonfamily.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.156 / Virus Database: 270.5.8/1582 - Release Date: 7/30/2008 6:37 PM From j.honor at comcast.net Wed Jul 30 20:36:08 2008 From: j.honor at comcast.net (j.honor at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:36:08 +0000 Subject: [6pack] Simon? need Miata seat adaptors Message-ID: <073120080236.2438.48912518000861750000098622007613949D01020108D206@comcast.net> try this one simonblackburn at ic24.net -------------- Original message -------------- From: "glc / crc" > I'd emailed simon blackburn about his miata seat adaptors, hoping to buy a > pair, and heard no reply after a week or two. Email address was from 2002, I > believe off TR Register post. > > Would anyone have a newer email address for him? > > While in LBC land 2 weeks isn't long, it is with the redhead's directive to > "make sure its presentable" when told about Triumph being marque of the > year, and the laps of the old and new courses at the Glen now only 5 weeks > away. > > Paint 8/11 > Tan interior and (hopefully) miata seats immediately afterward > Weekend after labor day- drive it to the Glen and enjoy! > > Making the seat exchange more inviting is the headrest speakers, an excuse > to finally get tunes working and a home for the ipod. > > All the best, > > George church > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > 6pack at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/6pack > > http://www.team.net/archive > > You are subscribed as j.honor at comcast.net From bdischer.lists at blakedischer.com Thu Jul 31 09:57:54 2008 From: bdischer.lists at blakedischer.com (Blake J. Discher) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:57:54 -0400 Subject: [6pack] NATC Blog Now Live Message-ID: Good afternoon, The 2008 North American Triumph Challenge blog is now available for reading and commenting at http://www.vtr.org/2008blog/ . Noted automotive journalist Richard Truett will head up a team that will be posting to the blog. If you are attending the event, you are invited to post as well; Richard is looking for a few contributors that can help with written content. You can post via email so it's super simple to add items. Please email webmaster at vtr.org to arrange posting access. Cheers, Blake Discher, President VINTAGE TRIUMPH REGISTER