From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 11 13:30:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E002585B28 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 13:30:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D0BD2585473 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 12:49:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.98]) by resqmta-ch2-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id gKqA1r00427uzMh01KqA6U; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:50:10 +0000 Received: from [10.0.0.4] ([68.60.53.115]) by resomta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id gKq91r0012V8Txw01Kq9n5; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:50:10 +0000 References: <56439688.8050208@gmail.com> From: Allen Bachelder Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:50:07 -0500 To: Chris Kotting , zmagnette@autox.team.net s=q20140121; t=1447271410; bh=bpZYFSeZaLN+5lCytWKcB1IV3tvQjFaXoJs5jX0teE8=; h=Received:Received:Subject:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=Qsg+DaDMSBJFaMXhiFzmH1BMKPc2gfG4QRPI0mVd+eSJJzVokvuT1arxMEgNPUfs8 vRIUdsMJWSHw+gKNDMDkap0iq+U7iIo0wxxVVmQbDuXZKLz4E5C4HYzhMW2di2Syjh mTBeFI+Ir+Gvwyd+BZc3DzL+0Eu9wBD6FAuq7qHz9irLIaP22AkHTJUXIJExLmGeTb sQ+HOabGbughbqyW+O6ulc7qstVi1MNxPttsinf+rUNnhAZAFDjKWqY0T8b1cMtpiT kpdqey+cvC7pCHyoiTjnZAvWbFzKc0U9qRpTWupyWenbPrX0WRmTpy1oUB54pUv5w3 9QG5I3MCgg0BQ== Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7300556127649244602== boundary=Apple-Mail-CE3506AC-9A1D-4232-BD04-093CB152A0C1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-CE3506AC-9A1D-4232-BD04-093CB152A0C1 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76? Curious in Michigan, Allen=20 Sent from my iPhone Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs Allen Bachelder, prop.=20 > On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist = wrote: >=20 > Jim - >=20 > If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56? >=20 > Chris K. >=20 >> On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote: >> Racer Steve, >> Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this wi= ly old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored but is o= n the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife claims= is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and gets the= best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother. >> Your collection is impressive. Good luck and Safety Fast! >> Jim in Pennsylvania=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE smar= tphone >>=20 >>=20 >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: bachldrs--- via Thelist =20 >> Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)=20 >> To: slilves@sbcglobal.net=20 >> Cc: Allen , Magnette List =20 >> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member=20 >>=20 >> Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?) - >>=20 >> Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine! ' Never raced.= ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under p= ressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, and just run it b= alls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I d= id learn that I have the wrong temperament for competitive driving. >>=20 >> We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together. It was a= basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other pro= jects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but d= id have a TD for several years. Like you, age has been an increasing factor= . I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while w= orking on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help b= ut wonder how long this will last. I'm having to adjust my attitude: if I c= an do it today, that's all I need to know. Once I finish the '65, the '60 A= 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. I'll be darned if my long range plans shou= ld be limited by my long range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I= 've known guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 yea= rs short of that? Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. =20= >>=20 >> OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT. OK, not even close, b= ut I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking in the back o= f my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has bra= kes! Drives great around the yard. A few new switches and I can at least d= rive it. >>=20 >> In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with n= agging new and continuing problems. Clutch is leaking down internally, so I= 've got an M/C problem. Not really major, except I'm not looking forward to= pulling the damn thing. =20 >>=20 >> In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again... I'= ve run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year. It really runs well. Fast= enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that h= ead! And since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, I= think I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole= thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more... There's a= bit of magic going on in this old cracked head. ' Have no idea what it is,= but don't want to lose it in the replacement. ' Might pick your brain a bi= t if you don't mind. >>=20 >> At any rate, welcome again! So glad to see new folks respond so quickly.= ' Look forward to your presence on the list. >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Allen >> ******************************************************** >> Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D< >> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs >> '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT >> North Street, MI 48049, USA >> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs >> ******************************************************** >>=20 >> From: "slilves--- via Thelist" >> To: "Steve" , "Prentiss Kirk" = >> Cc: "Allen" , "Magnette List" >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member >>=20 >> Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing. >> In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s i= n the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80= =9D >> My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the process of g= etting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D >> I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at Huffaker E= ngineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT that needs a= complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line after the T= F, and I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just h= ope I live long enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$. >> Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D >> Cheers, >> Racer Steve >> PS: I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more recently= a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just sold. Probably w= on=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too dam old!) >>=20 >>=20 >> Sent from Windows Mail >>=20 >> From: Prentiss Kirk via Thelist >> Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2= =80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM >> To: Steve >> Cc: Allen, Magnette List >>=20 >> What about Steve Martin? Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too? 8-> >>=20 >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist wrote:= >>=20 >> Steve Carroll >> Steve Wagoner >> Steve Kaufman >> Steve Travato >> Steve Hanegan >> Steve Kirby >> Steve Christiansen >> Steve Lilves >> =20 >> and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a roster >> =20 >> From: Steve Hanegan via Thelist >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM >> To: bachldrs@comcast.net >> Cc: Allen ; Magnette List >> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member >> =20 >> Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out Steve-wh= at would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve T, a #1Stev= e K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), let's see... Wh= o am I leaving out... a bunch of us! >>=20 >> Steve H. >>=20 >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist w= rote: >>=20 >> Welcome Steve Lilves! ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal club, really)= as much as we do. It's one-stop shopping for entertainment, information, a= dvice, parts, and great friendships. >> =20 >> Cheers, >> Allen >> ******************************************************** >> Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D< >> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs >> '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT >> North Street, MI 48049, USA >> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs >> ******************************************************** >> =20 >> From: "Dee via Thelist" >> To: "Mike" >> Cc: "Allen" , "Magnette List" >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member >> =20 >> We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA another CA m= ember >> Dee >> =20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist wrote: >> =20 >> Hi guys, >>=20 >> I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Steve= has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm pre= tty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to sell, f= or example. >>=20 >> Mike Jacobsen >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Thelist mailing list >> Thelist@zmgna.org >> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Thelist mailing list >> Thelist@zmgna.org >> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >> =20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Thelist mailing list >> Thelist@zmgna.org >> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Thelist mailing list >> Thelist@zmgna.org >> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Thelist mailing list >> Thelist@zmgna.org >> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Thelist mailing list >> Thelist@zmgna.org >> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Thelist mailing list >> Thelist@zmgna.org >> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org --Apple-Mail-CE3506AC-9A1D-4232-BD04-093CB152A0C1 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 OK, so who on the list is under 5= 6? How many are over my age of 76?

Curious in Michi= gan,

Allen 


Sent from m= y iPhone
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
Allen Bachelder, pr= op. 

On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotti= ng via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> wrote:

=20 =20 =20
Jim -

If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56?

Chris K.

On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote:
Racer Steve,
Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother.
Your collection is impressive.  Good luck and Safety Fast!
Jim in Pennsylvania 



Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org>
Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: slilves@sbcglobal.net
Cc: Allen <bachldrs@airadv.net>, Magnette List &= lt;TheList@zmgna.org>
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member

Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?)  -

Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine!  ' Never raced.  ' Did a bit= of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under pressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, and just run it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did learn that I have the wrong temperament for competitive driving.

We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together.  It was a basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other projects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but did have a TD for several years.  Like you, age has been an increasing factor. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but wonder how long this will last.  I'm having to adjust my attitude: i= f I can do it today, that's all I need to know.  Once I finish the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.  I'll be darned if my long range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that?  Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sur= e you'll agree.  

OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT.  OK, not even close, but I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking in the back of my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has brakes!  Drives great around the yard.  A few new= switches and I can at least drive it.

In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging new and continuing problems.  Clutch is leaking down internally, so I've got an M/C problem.  Not really major, except I'm not looking forward to pulling the damn thing.  

In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again...  I've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year.  It really runs well. Fast enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that head!  And since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, I think I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more...  There's a= bit of magic going on in this old cracked head.  ' Have no idea what it is, but don't want to lose it in the replacement.  ' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.

At any rate, welcome again!  S= o glad to see new folks respond so quickly.  ' Look forward to your presence on the list.

Cheers,
Allen

****************************************************= ****

Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3D= iii=3D<

Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs

'57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT=

North Street, MI 48049, USA

http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldr= s

****************************************************= ****


From: "slilve= s--- via Thelist" <thelist@zmgna.org>
To: "Steve" <skirby210@cox.net>, "Prentiss Kirk" <kirkprentiss@gmail.com>
Cc: "Allen" <bachldrs@airadv.net>, "Magnette List" <TheList@zmgna.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member

Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing.
In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so= how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=9D
My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the process of getting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D
I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while wo= rking at Huffaker Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT that needs a complete restoration, a&nb= sp;=E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line after the TF, and I=E2=80=99m almost d= one with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just hope I live l= ong enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.
Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CLi= st.=E2=80=9D
Cheers,
Racer Steve
PS:  I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then= , and more recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turne= r MKIII that I just sold. Probably won=E2=80=99t race any more due to b= ack and shoulder problems (too dam old!)


Sent from Windows Mail

From: <= a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:thelist@zmgna.org" target=3D"_blan= k" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:thelist@zmgna.org">Prentiss Kirk via Thelist
Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENove= mber=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM
To: Steve
Cc: Allen, Magnette List

What about Steve Martin?  Isn=E2=80=99t he a m= ember too?  8->

On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist <the= list@zmgna.org> wrote:

Steve Carroll
Steve Wagoner
Steve Kaufman
Steve Travato
Steve Hanegan
Steve Kirby
Steve Christiansen
Steve Lilves
 
and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head .= . . w/o looking at a roster
 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
 
Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!

Steve H.

On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> wrote:

Welcome Steve Lilves!  ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal club, really) as much as we do.  It's one-stop shopping for entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great friendships.
 
Cheers,
Allen
***= *****************************************************
Allen & Florrie Bachelder &nb= sp;     =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT=
North Street, MI 48049, USA=
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From: "= Dee via Thelist" <thelist@zmgna.org>
To: "Mike" <mikesmuseum@yahoo.com>
= Cc: "Allen" <bachldrs@airadv.net>, "Magnette List" <TheList@zmgna.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
 
We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA another CA member
Dee
 
Sent from my iPad

On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> wrote:
 
Hi guys,

I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Steve has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to sell, for example.

Mike Jacobsen

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= --Apple-Mail-CE3506AC-9A1D-4232-BD04-093CB152A0C1-- --===============7300556127649244602== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7300556127649244602==-- From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 11 21:01:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4980A2587EC1 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:01:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.91]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689B82584616 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:03:26 -0700 (MST) t=1447279466; bh=FS7ipZIn6G2bAc8HEdZyaRyvvzBTAlz6vL3hb+cvVJw=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=I+FA4AZ/a2Ic/Yye4SNUh85TOne7+Z5Yf2sViCvGzlROhe/91VfS4DkFn+rXiLO78JN4Xh9epipx2xiMjrtxIE7QIPtpPadJHXMfXlXDLuz8PqsTY/9QCF3wLICASS1fRWJcmrullThpFClWZuwqwjgOtYCxf2Ijkh43mjGVBdA= Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2015 22:04:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.99] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2015 22:04:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Nov 2015 22:04:26 -0000 IeJAGo22zDS3uUWuyP6WiQ0UFosVNolOu8LHLZvWOFmOc.aWlqaP0nIJipmX kX4C2131rrGp1mS_l35u1bDTAGPMltctRTSosV4B3KNhwM135Mvg4kP2zekA FuzXy3OvO0CojZzUlwLyxXE5yTtyF8Mh3C7SBEoKBMawsK0Wl6c5dNHDj23j ilEAgEitY9U9QSS37KyTZoQmG29XBTY4NM7mWLCiSrvcoSZ3aOK7u8hbMytl ZYYDdfjvvZRZiE4fI1YrU84.lTaq3IvbwCN7s6yJxcNN_kvTXrMTN_1g9vCn 6yIcTc5q1w5WefMLmfxgwvOiEBtobG2ZbCdGmdJKMXtpysnejnS84j_qIl6G JaCwXVV8u_Zbm_zTgvgcE4Vh17iyWBMy4bhX5D66gUUUAtFK2Nn95vIO8qFe 4Qrf2G8IXy1YgWlF5O1Idx2ekJbFKRuxD7h7ayGHpBtwyO3lgDOlb3MLSGg1 9pclUT4U4tyAo8J2cmv8NG9MFTyNJrb0btwl3.9KNPylLODkjRqU- From: "Gene deRuelle" To: "List for the Z Magnette Group - North America" References: <56439688.8050208@gmail.com> <55DD9BE4-78EF-4BD3-A691-1694E0ED190F@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:04:27 -0800 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0768969167804914675== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01D11C89.E0A43450" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01D11C89.E0A43450 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First week in January I will turn 80. Gene deRuelle From: Allen Bachelder=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:50 AM To: Chris Kotting ; zmagnette@autox.team.net=20 Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76? Curious in Michigan, Allen=20 Sent from my iPhone=20 Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs Allen Bachelder, prop.=20 On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist = wrote: Jim - If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56? Chris K. On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote: Racer Steve, Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in = this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being = restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body = shell that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a = 58 ZB steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my = 92 year old Mother. Your collection is impressive. Good luck and Safety Fast! Jim in Pennsylvania=20 Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE = smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: bachldrs--- via Thelist mailto:thelist@zmgna.org=20 Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)=20 To: slilves@sbcglobal.net=20 Cc: Allen mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net, Magnette List = mailto:TheList@zmgna.org=20 Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member=20 Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?) - Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine! ' Never = raced. ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover = that under pressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, = and just run it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor = old '73 B/GT; but I did learn that I have the wrong temperament for = competitive driving.=20 We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together. It = was a basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few = other projects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never = had a TF but did have a TD for several years. Like you, age has been an = increasing factor. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen = times per hour while working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a = couple weeks, can't help but wonder how long this will last. I'm having = to adjust my attitude: if I can do it today, that's all I need to know. = Once I finish the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. I'll = be darned if my long range plans should be limited by my long range = prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring = these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that? = Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. =20 OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT. OK, not even = close, but I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking = in the back of my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert = Kirk, it has brakes! Drives great around the yard. A few new switches = and I can at least drive it. In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me = with nagging new and continuing problems. Clutch is leaking down = internally, so I've got an M/C problem. Not really major, except I'm = not looking forward to pulling the damn thing. =20 In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - = again... I've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year. It really = runs well. Fast enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I = have to address that head! And since I'm thinking of something akin to = a Burgess econotune head, I think I'll have to go through the bottom end = again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in '92 but oil pressure = doesn't go to 75# any more... There's a bit of magic going on in this = old cracked head. ' Have no idea what it is, but don't want to lose it = in the replacement. ' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind. At any rate, welcome again! So glad to see new folks respond so = quickly. ' Look forward to your presence on the list. Cheers, Allen ******************************************************** Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D< Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049, USA http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs ******************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: "slilves--- via Thelist" mailto:thelist@zmgna.org To: "Steve" mailto:skirby210@cox.net, "Prentiss Kirk" = mailto:kirkprentiss@gmail.com Cc: "Allen" mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net, "Magnette List" = mailto:TheList@zmgna.org Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing. In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker = MGB=E2=80=99s in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about = =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=9D My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the process = of getting it back together after way too many years of = =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at = Huffaker Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 = BGT that needs a complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's = in line after the TF, and I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 = Mini Countryman. I just hope I live long enough to get them all done and = don't run out of $$$. Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D Cheers, Racer Steve PS: I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more = recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just = sold. Probably won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder = problems (too dam old!) Sent from Windows Mail From: Prentiss Kirk via Thelist Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E = =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 = =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM To: Steve Cc: Allen, Magnette List What about Steve Martin? Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too? 8->=20 On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist = wrote: Steve Carroll Steve Wagoner Steve Kaufman Steve Travato Steve Hanegan Steve Kirby Steve Christiansen Steve Lilves and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a = roster From: Steve Hanegan via Thelist Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM To: bachldrs@comcast.net Cc: Allen ; Magnette List Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out = Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve = T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), = let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us! Steve H. On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist = wrote: Welcome Steve Lilves! ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal = club, really) as much as we do. It's one-stop shopping for = entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great friendships. Cheers, Allen ********************************************************=20 Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D< Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049, USA http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs ******************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Dee via Thelist" To: "Mike" Cc: "Allen" , "Magnette List" = Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA = another CA member Dee Sent from my iPad On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist = wrote: Hi guys, I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry = band. Steve has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare = pieces. I'm pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd = be willing to sell, for example. 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First week in January I will turn 80.
 
Gene deRuelle
 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:50 AM
To: Chris Kotting ; zmagnette@autox.team.net =
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age
 
OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of = 76?
 
Curious in Michigan,
 
Allen


Sent from my iPhone=20
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
Allen Bachelder, prop.

On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> = wrote:

Jim -

If you're the teenager at = 64, what am=20 I at 56?

Chris K.

On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte = via=20 Thelist wrote:
Racer Steve,
Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager = in this=20 wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being = restored but=20 is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my = wife=20 claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel = blue and=20 gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old = Mother.
Your collection is impressive.  Good luck and Safety = Fast!
Jim in Pennsylvania
 
 
 
Sent via the Samsung = GALAXY S=C2=AE4=20 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE = smartphone


-------- Original=20 message --------
From: bachldrs--- via Thelist mailto:thelist@zmgna.org =
Date:=20 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: slilves@sbcglobal.net =
Cc: Allen=20 mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net, = Magnette=20 List mailto:TheList@zmgna.org =
Subject:=20 Re: [Thelist] New Member

Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?)  = -
 
Your racing pedigree deserves = respect, and=20 you have mine!  ' Never raced.  ' Did a bit of = autocrossing many=20 years ago - only to discover that under pressure of competition, I = lose all=20 respect for the machine, and just run it balls to the wall. ' = Surprised I=20 didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did learn that I have the = wrong=20 temperament for competitive driving.
 
We have some inventory in common: = I'm putting=20 my '65 B together.  It was a basketcase I bought in '89, and it = has yet=20 to see the road. A few other projects intervened, including my '57 = ZBV=20 Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but did have a TD for several = years. =20 Like you, age has been an increasing factor. I still can get up and = down=20 from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working on the MGs, but = with=20 age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but wonder how long = this will=20 last.  I'm having to adjust my attitude: if I can do it today, = that's=20 all I need to know.  Once I finish the '65, the '60 A 1600 and = the '69=20 C/GT are next.  I'll be darned if my long range plans should be = limited=20 by my long range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've = known=20 guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 years = short=20 of that?  Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll = agree. =20
 
OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do = have a '69=20 C/GT.  OK, not even close, but I got the year right, and I love = the=20 car. It's been lurking in the back of my shop for seven years, but = recently,=20 courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has brakes!  Drives great around = the=20 yard.  A few new switches and I can at least drive it.
 
In the meantime, my = recently-restored=20 Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging new and continuing = problems. =20 Clutch is leaking down internally, so I've got an M/C problem.  = Not=20 really major, except I'm not looking forward to pulling the damn=20 thing. 
 
In the meantime, my daily-driver = '73 GT has a=20 cracked head - again...  I've run it on the cracked head for = perhaps a=20 year.  It really runs well. Fast enough to put the proverbial = smile on=20 my face, but I have to address that head!  And since I'm = thinking of=20 something akin to a Burgess econotune head, I think I'll have to go = through=20 the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in '92 but = oil=20 pressure doesn't go to 75# any more...  There's a bit of magic = going on=20 in this old cracked head.  ' Have no idea what it is, but don't = want to=20 lose it in the replacement.  ' Might pick your brain a bit if = you don't=20 mind.
 
At any rate, welcome again!  = So glad to=20 see new folks respond so quickly.  ' Look forward to your = presence on=20 the list.
 
Cheers,
Allen

********************************************************<= /B>

Allen = & Florrie=20 Bachelder       = =3Diii=3D<

Spring = Creek Home=20 for Wayward MGs

'57 ZB, = '60 A1600,=20 '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT

North = Street, MI=20 48049, USA

http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldr= s

********************************************************<= /B>

 
From:=20 "slilves--- via Thelist" mailto:thelist@zmgna.org
To: = "Steve" mailto:skirby210@cox.net, = "Prentiss=20 Kirk" mailto:kirkprentiss@gmail.com<= BR>Cc:=20 "Allen" mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net, = "Magnette=20 List" mailto:TheList@zmgna.org
Sent= :=20 Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM
Subject: Re: = [Thelist]=20 New Member
 
Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good = thing.
In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker = MGB=E2=80=99s in the=20 Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer = Steve?=E2=80=9D
My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the = process of=20 getting it back together after way too many years of = =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D
I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at = Huffaker=20 Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT = that needs a=20 complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line = after the TF, and=20 I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just = hope I live long enough=20 to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.
Looking forward to meeting everyone on the = =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D
Cheers,
Racer Steve
PS:  I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, = and more=20 recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just = sold. Probably=20 won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too = dam old!)
 
 
Sent from Windows Mail
 
From: Prentiss=20 Kirk via Thelist
Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, = =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015=20 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E = =E2=80=8EPM
To: Steve
Cc: Allen,=20 Magnette=20 List
 
What about Steve Martin?  Isn=E2=80=99t he a member = too?  8->=20
 
On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> wrote:
 
Steve Carroll
Steve Wagoner
Steve Kaufman
Steve Travato
Steve Hanegan
Steve Kirby
Steve Christiansen
Steve Lilves
 
and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking = at a roster
 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
 
Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure = out=20 Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a = Steve=20 T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda = guy),=20 let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!
 
Steve H.

On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist = <thelist@zmgna.org> = wrote:
 
Welcome Steve Lilves!  ' Hope you enjoy this list = (informal=20 club, really) as much as we do.  It's one-stop shopping for = entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great=20 friendships.
 
Cheers,
Allen
******************************************************= **=20
Allen=20 & Florrie Bachelder      =20 =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57=20 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North=20 Street, MI 48049,=20 = USA
http://www.mgexperie= nce.net/member/bachldrs
******************************************************= **
 
From:=20 "Dee via Thelist" <thelist@zmgna.org>
To:=20 "Mike" <mikesmuseum@yahoo.com>
Cc:=20 "Allen" <bachldrs@airadv.net>, = "Magnette=20 List" <TheList@zmgna.org>
Sent:=20 Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM
Subject: Re: = [Thelist] New Member
 
We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , = YA=20 another CA member
Dee
 
Sent from my iPad

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<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01D11C89.E0A43450-- --===============0768969167804914675== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0768969167804914675==-- From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 11 21:02:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0307C2587F5F for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:02:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4A22584D61 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:54:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.64] ([104.184.94.23]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NXO00KHW7KGJZ60@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for zmagnette@autox.team.net; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:55:29 -0600 (CST) a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=qtqOOiqGOCEA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=rjHJRHV9AAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=oXF3Bpq6AAAA:8 a=rrfcNrKlAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=dE3lmBDXAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=dRI3Psr3ZkrZdBOWId0A:9 a=BwcSZu6vt0NKyXm8:21 a=MdHPciD6Eiw1V30i:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=innOtGr_FDqBf2qT5I4A:9 a=WO--ADllTSwGioRe:21 a=2qfF3cOGqNeMegaK:21 a=wmMews3Jh_Arf1th:21 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 References: <56439688.8050208@gmail.com> <55DD9BE4-78EF-4BD3-A691-1694E0ED190F@comcast.net> From: Phil Marcel Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:55:29 -0600 To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America Cc: Chris Kotting Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4019890415563484029== boundary=Apple-Mail-D7E910A9-4A38-4AA8-A0D3-774EAFC26F4A Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-D7E910A9-4A38-4AA8-A0D3-774EAFC26F4A charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alan, You can drop me from your list. My Magnette burned in a shop fire early this= year. Replaced it with a Twin Cam! Phil Marcell Sent from my iPad > On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:= >=20 > OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76? >=20 > Curious in Michigan, >=20 > Allen=20 >=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPhone > Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs > Allen Bachelder, prop.=20 >=20 >> On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist wrote: >>=20 >> Jim - >>=20 >> If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56? >>=20 >> Chris K. >>=20 >>> On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote: >>> Racer Steve, >>> Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this w= ily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored but is= on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife clai= ms is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and gets t= he best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother. >>> Your collection is impressive. Good luck and Safety Fast! >>> Jim in Pennsylvania=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE sma= rtphone >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: bachldrs--- via Thelist =20 >>> Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)=20 >>> To: slilves@sbcglobal.net=20 >>> Cc: Allen , Magnette List =20 >>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member=20 >>>=20 >>> Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?) - >>>=20 >>> Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine! ' Never raced= . ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under p= ressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, and just run it b= alls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I d= id learn that I have the wrong temperament for competitive driving. >>>=20 >>> We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together. It was= a basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other p= rojects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but= did have a TD for several years. Like you, age has been an increasing fact= or. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while= working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help= but wonder how long this will last. I'm having to adjust my attitude: if I= can do it today, that's all I need to know. Once I finish the '65, the '60= A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. I'll be darned if my long range plans sh= ould be limited by my long range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good)= . I've known guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 y= ears short of that? Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. = =20 >>>=20 >>> OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT. OK, not even close, b= ut I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking in the back o= f my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has bra= kes! Drives great around the yard. A few new switches and I can at least d= rive it. >>>=20 >>> In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with n= agging new and continuing problems. Clutch is leaking down internally, so I= 've got an M/C problem. Not really major, except I'm not looking forward to= pulling the damn thing. =20 >>>=20 >>> In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again... I= 've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year. It really runs well. Fas= t enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that h= ead! And since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, I= think I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole= thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more... There's a= bit of magic going on in this old cracked head. ' Have no idea what it is,= but don't want to lose it in the replacement. ' Might pick your brain a bi= t if you don't mind. >>>=20 >>> At any rate, welcome again! So glad to see new folks respond so quickly= . ' Look forward to your presence on the list. >>>=20 >>> Cheers, >>> Allen >>> ******************************************************** >>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D< >>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs >>> '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT >>> North Street, MI 48049, USA >>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs >>> ******************************************************** >>>=20 >>> From: "slilves--- via Thelist" >>> To: "Steve" , "Prentiss Kirk" >>> Cc: "Allen" , "Magnette List" >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member >>>=20 >>> Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing. >>> In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s= in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80= =9D >>> My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the process of g= etting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D >>> I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at Huffaker E= ngineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT that needs a= complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line after the T= F, and I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just h= ope I live long enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$. >>> Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D >>> Cheers, >>> Racer Steve >>> PS: I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more recentl= y a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just sold. Probably w= on=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too dam old!) >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Sent from Windows Mail >>>=20 >>> From: Prentiss Kirk via Thelist >>> Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2= =80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM >>> To: Steve >>> Cc: Allen, Magnette List >>>=20 >>> What about Steve Martin? Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too? 8-> >>>=20 >>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist wrote= : >>>=20 >>> Steve Carroll >>> Steve Wagoner >>> Steve Kaufman >>> Steve Travato >>> Steve Hanegan >>> Steve Kirby >>> Steve Christiansen >>> Steve Lilves >>> =20 >>> and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a roster >>> =20 >>> From: Steve Hanegan via Thelist >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM >>> To: bachldrs@comcast.net >>> Cc: Allen ; Magnette List >>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member >>> =20 >>> Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out Steve-w= hat would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve T, a #1Ste= ve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), let's see... W= ho am I leaving out... a bunch of us! >>>=20 >>> Steve H. >>>=20 >>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist = wrote: >>>=20 >>> Welcome Steve Lilves! ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal club, really= ) as much as we do. It's one-stop shopping for entertainment, information, a= dvice, parts, and great friendships. >>> =20 >>> Cheers, >>> Allen >>> ******************************************************** >>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D< >>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs >>> '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT >>> North Street, MI 48049, USA >>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs >>> ******************************************************** >>> =20 >>> From: "Dee via Thelist" >>> To: "Mike" >>> Cc: "Allen" , "Magnette List" >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member >>> =20 >>> We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA another CA m= ember >>> Dee >>> =20 >>> Sent from my iPad >>>=20 >>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist wrote:= >>> =20 >>> Hi guys, >>>=20 >>> I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Stev= e has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm pr= etty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to sell,= for example. >>>=20 >>> Mike Jacobsen >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Thelist mailing list >>> Thelist@zmgna.org >>> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Thelist mailing list >>> Thelist@zmgna.org >>> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >>> =20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Thelist mailing list >>> Thelist@zmgna.org >>> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Thelist mailing list >>> Thelist@zmgna.org >>> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Thelist mailing list >>> Thelist@zmgna.org >>> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Thelist mailing list >>> Thelist@zmgna.org >>> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Thelist mailing list >>> Thelist@zmgna.org >>> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Thelist mailing list >> Thelist@zmgna.org >> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/mg1948= @verizon.net >=20 --Apple-Mail-D7E910A9-4A38-4AA8-A0D3-774EAFC26F4A charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alan,

You can drop me from your list.= My Magnette burned in a shop fire early this year.  Replaced it with a= Twin Cam!

Phil Marcell

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 11, 2= 015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net> wrote:

=
 OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of= 76?

Curious in Michigan,

= Allen 


Sent from my iPhone
Spring Creek Home= for Wayward MGs
Allen Bachelder, prop. 

On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> wrote:

=20 =20 =20
Jim -

If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56?

Chris K.

On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote:
Racer Steve,
Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother.
Your collection is impressive.  Good luck and Safety Fast!
Jim in Pennsylvania 



Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org>
Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: slilves@sbcglobal.net
Cc: Allen <bachldrs@airadv.net>, Magnette List &= lt;TheList@zmgna.org>
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member

Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?)  -

Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine!  ' Never raced.  ' Did a bit= of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under pressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, and just run it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did learn that I have the wrong temperament for competitive driving.

We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together.  It was a basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other projects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but did have a TD for several years.  Like you, age has been an increasing factor. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but wonder how long this will last.  I'm having to adjust my attitude: i= f I can do it today, that's all I need to know.  Once I finish the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.  I'll be darned if my long range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that?  Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sur= e you'll agree.  

OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT.  OK, not even close, but I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking in the back of my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has brakes!  Drives great around the yard.  A few new= switches and I can at least drive it.

In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging new and continuing problems.  Clutch is leaking down internally, so I've got an M/C problem.  Not really major, except I'm not looking forward to pulling the damn thing.  

In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again...  I've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year.  It really runs well. Fast enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that head!  And since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, I think I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more...  There's a= bit of magic going on in this old cracked head.  ' Have no idea what it is, but don't want to lose it in the replacement.  ' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.

At any rate, welcome again!  S= o glad to see new folks respond so quickly.  ' Look forward to your presence on the list.

Cheers,
Allen

****************************************************= ****

Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3D= iii=3D<

Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs

'57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT=

North Street, MI 48049, USA

http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldr= s

****************************************************= ****


From: "slilve= s--- via Thelist" <thelist@zmgna.org>
To: "Steve" <skirby210@cox.net>, "Prentiss Kirk" <kirkprentiss@gmail.com>
Cc: "Allen" <bachldrs@airadv.net>, "Magnette List" <TheList@zmgna.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member

Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing.
In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so= how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=9D
My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the process of getting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D
I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while wo= rking at Huffaker Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT that needs a complete restoration, a&nb= sp;=E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line after the TF, and I=E2=80=99m almost d= one with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just hope I live l= ong enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.
Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CLi= st.=E2=80=9D
Cheers,
Racer Steve
PS:  I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then= , and more recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turne= r MKIII that I just sold. Probably won=E2=80=99t race any more due to b= ack and shoulder problems (too dam old!)


Sent from Windows Mail

From: <= a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:thelist@zmgna.org" target=3D"_blan= k" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:thelist@zmgna.org">Prentiss Kirk via Thelist
Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENove= mber=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM
To: Steve
Cc: Allen, Magnette List

What about Steve Martin?  Isn=E2=80=99t he a m= ember too?  8->

On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist <the= list@zmgna.org> wrote:

Steve Carroll
Steve Wagoner
Steve Kaufman
Steve Travato
Steve Hanegan
Steve Kirby
Steve Christiansen
Steve Lilves
 
and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head .= . . w/o looking at a roster
 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
 
Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!

Steve H.

On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> wrote:

Welcome Steve Lilves!  ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal club, really) as much as we do.  It's one-stop shopping for entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great friendships.
 
Cheers,
Allen
***= *****************************************************
Allen & Florrie Bachelder &nb= sp;     =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT=
North Street, MI 48049, USA=
<= a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member= /bachldrs">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
*******= *************************************************
 
From: "= Dee via Thelist" <thelist@zmgna.org>
To: "Mike" <mikesmuseum@yahoo.com>
= Cc: "Allen" <bachldrs@airadv.net>, "Magnette List" <TheList@zmgna.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
 
We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA another CA member
Dee
 
Sent from my iPad

On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> wrote:
 
Hi guys,

I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Steve has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to sell, for example.

Mike Jacobsen

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= --Apple-Mail-D7E910A9-4A38-4AA8-A0D3-774EAFC26F4A-- --===============4019890415563484029== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4019890415563484029==-- From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 11 21:02:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA81258804A for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 21:02:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C0E25853F6 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 17:40:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [74.67.160.181] ([74.67.160.181:2013] helo=astus340b) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 44/A2-27622-E30E3465; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 00:41:34 +0000 From: "Dan Suter" To: "List for the Z Magnette Group - North America" , "Chris Kotting" References: <56439688.8050208@gmail.com> <55DD9BE4-78EF-4BD3-A691-1694E0ED190F@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:41:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0655414092999199985== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DE_01D11CB8.ECC022B0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01D11CB8.ECC022B0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm 52....no Magnette yet but I am looking! Best regards, Dan ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Allen Bachelder=20 To: Chris Kotting ; zmagnette@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76? Curious in Michigan, Allen=20 Sent from my iPhone Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs Allen Bachelder, prop.=20 On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist = wrote: Jim - If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56? Chris K. On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote: Racer Steve, Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in = this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being = restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body = shell that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a = 58 ZB steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my = 92 year old Mother. Your collection is impressive. Good luck and Safety Fast! Jim in Pennsylvania=20 Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G = LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: bachldrs--- via Thelist =20 Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)=20 To: slilves@sbcglobal.net=20 Cc: Allen , Magnette List = Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member=20 Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?) - Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine! ' Never = raced. ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover = that under pressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, = and just run it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor = old '73 B/GT; but I did learn that I have the wrong temperament for = competitive driving.=20 We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together. = It was a basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A = few other projects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have = never had a TF but did have a TD for several years. Like you, age has = been an increasing factor. I still can get up and down from my creeper a = dozen times per hour while working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up = in a couple weeks, can't help but wonder how long this will last. I'm = having to adjust my attitude: if I can do it today, that's all I need to = know. Once I finish the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. = I'll be darned if my long range plans should be limited by my long range = prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring = these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that? = Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. =20 OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT. OK, not even = close, but I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking = in the back of my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert = Kirk, it has brakes! Drives great around the yard. A few new switches = and I can at least drive it. In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me = with nagging new and continuing problems. Clutch is leaking down = internally, so I've got an M/C problem. Not really major, except I'm = not looking forward to pulling the damn thing. =20 In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - = again... I've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year. It really = runs well. Fast enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I = have to address that head! And since I'm thinking of something akin to = a Burgess econotune head, I think I'll have to go through the bottom end = again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in '92 but oil pressure = doesn't go to 75# any more... There's a bit of magic going on in this = old cracked head. ' Have no idea what it is, but don't want to lose it = in the replacement. ' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind. At any rate, welcome again! So glad to see new folks respond so = quickly. ' Look forward to your presence on the list. Cheers, Allen ******************************************************** Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D< Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049, USA http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs ******************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - From: "slilves--- via Thelist" To: "Steve" , "Prentiss Kirk" = Cc: "Allen" , "Magnette List" = Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing. In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker = MGB=E2=80=99s in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about = =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=9D My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the = process of getting it back together after way too many years of = =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at = Huffaker Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 = BGT that needs a complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's = in line after the TF, and I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 = Mini Countryman. I just hope I live long enough to get them all done and = don't run out of $$$. Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D Cheers, Racer Steve PS: I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more = recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just = sold. Probably won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder = problems (too dam old!) Sent from Windows Mail From: Prentiss Kirk via Thelist Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E = =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 = =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM To: Steve Cc: Allen, Magnette List What about Steve Martin? Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too? 8->=20 On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist = wrote: Steve Carroll Steve Wagoner Steve Kaufman Steve Travato Steve Hanegan Steve Kirby Steve Christiansen Steve Lilves and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a = roster From: Steve Hanegan via Thelist Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM To: bachldrs@comcast.net Cc: Allen ; Magnette List Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out = Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve = T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), = let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us! Steve H. On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist = wrote: Welcome Steve Lilves! ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal = club, really) as much as we do. It's one-stop shopping for = entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great friendships. Cheers, Allen ********************************************************=20 Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D< Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049, USA http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs ******************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dee via Thelist" To: "Mike" Cc: "Allen" , "Magnette List" = Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA = another CA member Dee Sent from my iPad On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist = wrote: Hi guys, I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our = merry band. Steve has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of = spare pieces. I'm pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that = he'd be willing to sell, for example. Mike Jacobsen _______________________________________________ Thelist mailing list Thelist@zmgna.org http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org _______________________________________________ Thelist mailing list Thelist@zmgna.org http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org _______________________________________________ Thelist mailing list Thelist@zmgna.org http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Thelist mailing list Thelist@zmgna.org http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org _______________________________________________ Thelist mailing list Thelist@zmgna.org http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org _______________________________________________ Thelist mailing list Thelist@zmgna.org http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org =20 _______________________________________________ Thelist mailing list Thelist@zmgna.org http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org _______________________________________________ Thelist mailing list Thelist@zmgna.org http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/dmesuter@rochester.rr.com= ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01D11CB8.ECC022B0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
I'm 52....no Magnette yet but I am=20 looking!
 
Best regards,
Dan
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Allen=20 Bachelder
To: Chris Kotting ; zmagnette@autox.team.net =
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, = 2015 2:50=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] = age

 OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my = age of=20 76?

Curious in Michigan,

Allen 


Sent from my iPhone
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
Allen Bachelder, prop. 

On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> = wrote:

Jim -

If you're the teenager at = 64, what=20 am I at 56?

Chris K.

On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James = Schulte via=20 Thelist wrote:
Racer Steve,
Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the = teenager in=20 this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being = restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage = body shell=20 that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a = 58 ZB=20 steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my = 92 year=20 old Mother.
Your collection is impressive.  Good luck and Safety = Fast!
Jim in Pennsylvania 



Sent via the Samsung = GALAXY=20 S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE = smartphone


--------=20 Original message --------
From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> =
Date:=20 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: slilves@sbcglobal.net =
Cc:=20 Allen <bachldrs@airadv.net>,=20 Magnette List <TheList@zmgna.org> =
Subject:=20 Re: [Thelist] New Member

Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?) =  -

Your racing pedigree deserves = respect, and=20 you have mine!  ' Never raced.  ' Did a bit of = autocrossing many=20 years ago - only to discover that under pressure of competition, I = lose=20 all respect for the machine, and just run it balls to the wall. '=20 Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did learn = that I=20 have the wrong temperament for competitive driving.

We have some inventory in common: = I'm=20 putting my '65 B together.  It was a basketcase I bought in = '89, and=20 it has yet to see the road. A few other projects intervened, = including my=20 '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but did have a TD for = several=20 years.  Like you, age has been an increasing factor. I still = can get=20 up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working = on the=20 MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but = wonder=20 how long this will last.  I'm having to adjust my attitude: = if I can=20 do it today, that's all I need to know.  Once I finish the = '65, the=20 '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.  I'll be darned if my = long=20 range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even = that=20 looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring these cars well into = their=20 90s - why give up 15 years short of that?  Nevertheless, old = age=20 sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree.  

OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do = have a=20 '69 C/GT.  OK, not even close, but I got the year right, and = I love=20 the car. It's been lurking in the back of my shop for seven years, = but=20 recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has brakes!  Drives = great=20 around the yard.  A few new switches and I can at least drive = it.

In the meantime, my = recently-restored=20 Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging new and continuing = problems.=20  Clutch is leaking down internally, so I've got an M/C = problem.=20  Not really major, except I'm not looking forward to pulling = the damn=20 thing.  

In the meantime, my daily-driver = '73 GT has=20 a cracked head - again...  I've run it on the cracked head = for=20 perhaps a year.  It really runs well. Fast enough to put the=20 proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that head! =  And=20 since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, = I think=20 I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the = whole=20 thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more...=20  There's a bit of magic going on in this old cracked head. =  '=20 Have no idea what it is, but don't want to lose it in the = replacement.=20  ' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.

At any rate, welcome again! =  So glad=20 to see new folks respond so quickly.  ' Look forward to your = presence=20 on the list.

Cheers,
Allen

********************************************************<= /B>

Allen = &=20 Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<

Spring = Creek Home=20 for Wayward MGs

'57 ZB, = '60=20 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT

North = Street, MI=20 48049, USA

http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldr= s

********************************************************<= /B>


From:=20 "slilves--- via Thelist" <thelist@zmgna.org>
To:= =20 "Steve" <skirby210@cox.net>, = "Prentiss=20 Kirk" <kirkprentiss@gmail.com>=
Cc:=20 "Allen" <bachldrs@airadv.net>,=20 "Magnette List" <TheList@zmgna.org>
Sen= t:=20 Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM
Subject: Re:=20 [Thelist] New Member

Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good = thing.
In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker = MGB=E2=80=99s in=20 the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer = Steve?=E2=80=9D
My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the = process=20 of getting it back together after way too many years = of =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D
I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while = working at Huffaker=20 Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 = BGT that needs a=20 complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in = line after the TF,=20 and I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini = Countryman. I just hope I live=20 long enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.
Looking forward to meeting everyone on = the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D
Cheers,
Racer Steve
PS:  I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, = and more=20 recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that = I just sold.=20 Probably won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder = problems (too dam=20 old!)


Sent from Windows Mail

From: Prentiss=20 Kirk via = Thelist
Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, = =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E,=20 =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E = =E2=80=8EPM
To: Steve
Cc: Allen, Magnette List

What about Steve Martin?  Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too? =  8->=20

On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> = wrote:
Steve Carroll
Steve Wagoner
Steve Kaufman
Steve Travato
Steve Hanegan
Steve Kirby
Steve Christiansen
Steve Lilves
 
and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking = at a=20 roster
 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
 
Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is = figure out=20 Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), = a Steve=20 T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 = kinda guy),=20 let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!

Steve H.

On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist = <thelist@zmgna.org> = wrote:

Welcome Steve Lilves!  ' Hope you enjoy this list = (informal=20 club, really) as much as we do.  It's one-stop shopping = for=20 entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great=20 friendships.
 
Cheers,
Allen
******************************************************= **=20
Allen=20 & Florrie Bachelder      =20 =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward = MGs
'57=20 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North=20 Street, MI 48049,=20 = USA
http://www.mgexperie= nce.net/member/bachldrs ******************************************************= **
 
From:=20 "Dee via Thelist" <thelist@zmgna.org>
To:=20 "Mike" <mikesmuseum@yahoo.com>
Cc:=20 "Allen" <bachldrs@airadv.net>,=20 "Magnette List" <TheList@zmgna.org>
Sent:=20 Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM
Subject: = Re:=20 [Thelist] New Member
 
We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , = YA=20 another CA member
Dee
 
Sent from my iPad

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Gene deRuelle From: Phil Marcel=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:55 PM To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20 Cc: Chris Kotting=20 Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age Alan, You can drop me from your list. My Magnette burned in a shop fire early = this year. Replaced it with a Twin Cam! Phil Marcell Sent from my iPad On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder = wrote: OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76? Curious in Michigan, Allen=20 Sent from my iPhone=20 Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs Allen Bachelder, prop.=20 On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist = wrote: Jim - If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56? Chris K. On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote: Racer Steve, Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in = this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being = restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body = shell that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a = 58 ZB steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my = 92 year old Mother. Your collection is impressive. Good luck and Safety Fast! Jim in Pennsylvania=20 Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G = LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: bachldrs--- via Thelist mailto:thelist@zmgna.org=20 Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)=20 To: slilves@sbcglobal.net=20 Cc: Allen mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net, Magnette List = mailto:TheList@zmgna.org=20 Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member=20 Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?) - Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine! ' Never = raced. ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover = that under pressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, = and just run it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor = old '73 B/GT; but I did learn that I have the wrong temperament for = competitive driving.=20 We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together. = It was a basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A = few other projects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have = never had a TF but did have a TD for several years. Like you, age has = been an increasing factor. I still can get up and down from my creeper a = dozen times per hour while working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up = in a couple weeks, can't help but wonder how long this will last. I'm = having to adjust my attitude: if I can do it today, that's all I need to = know. Once I finish the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. = I'll be darned if my long range plans should be limited by my long range = prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring = these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that? = Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. =20 OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT. OK, not even = close, but I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking = in the back of my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert = Kirk, it has brakes! Drives great around the yard. A few new switches = and I can at least drive it. In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me = with nagging new and continuing problems. Clutch is leaking down = internally, so I've got an M/C problem. Not really major, except I'm = not looking forward to pulling the damn thing. =20 In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - = again... I've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year. It really = runs well. Fast enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I = have to address that head! And since I'm thinking of something akin to = a Burgess econotune head, I think I'll have to go through the bottom end = again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in '92 but oil pressure = doesn't go to 75# any more... There's a bit of magic going on in this = old cracked head. ' Have no idea what it is, but don't want to lose it = in the replacement. ' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind. At any rate, welcome again! So glad to see new folks respond so = quickly. ' Look forward to your presence on the list. Cheers, Allen ******************************************************** Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D< Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049, USA http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs ******************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - From: "slilves--- via Thelist" mailto:thelist@zmgna.org To: "Steve" mailto:skirby210@cox.net, "Prentiss Kirk" = mailto:kirkprentiss@gmail.com Cc: "Allen" mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net, "Magnette List" = mailto:TheList@zmgna.org Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing. In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker = MGB=E2=80=99s in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about = =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=9D My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the = process of getting it back together after way too many years of = =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at = Huffaker Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 = BGT that needs a complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's = in line after the TF, and I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 = Mini Countryman. I just hope I live long enough to get them all done and = don't run out of $$$. Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D Cheers, Racer Steve PS: I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more = recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just = sold. Probably won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder = problems (too dam old!) Sent from Windows Mail From: Prentiss Kirk via Thelist Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E = =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 = =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM To: Steve Cc: Allen, Magnette List What about Steve Martin? Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too? 8->=20 On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist = wrote: Steve Carroll Steve Wagoner Steve Kaufman Steve Travato Steve Hanegan Steve Kirby Steve Christiansen Steve Lilves and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a = roster From: Steve Hanegan via Thelist Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM To: bachldrs@comcast.net Cc: Allen ; Magnette List Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out = Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve = T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), = let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us! Steve H. On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist = wrote: Welcome Steve Lilves! ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal = club, really) as much as we do. It's one-stop shopping for = entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great friendships. Cheers, Allen ********************************************************=20 Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D< Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049, USA http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs ******************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dee via Thelist" To: "Mike" Cc: "Allen" , "Magnette List" = Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA = another CA member Dee Sent from my iPad On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist = wrote: Hi guys, I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our = merry band. Steve has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of = spare pieces. I'm pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that = he'd be willing to sell, for example. 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you=E2=80=99ll be sorry.......!
 
Gene deRuelle
 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age
 
Alan,
 
You can drop me from your list. My Magnette = burned in=20 a shop fire early this year.  Replaced it with a Twin Cam!
 
Phil Marcell

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net>=20 wrote:

OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of = 76?
 
Curious in Michigan,
 
Allen


Sent from my iPhone=20
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
Allen Bachelder, prop.

On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> = wrote:

Jim -

If you're the teenager at = 64, what=20 am I at 56?

Chris K.

On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James = Schulte via=20 Thelist wrote:
Racer Steve,
Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the = teenager in=20 this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being = restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage = body shell=20 that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a = 58 ZB=20 steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my = 92 year=20 old Mother.
Your collection is impressive.  Good luck and Safety = Fast!
Jim in Pennsylvania
 
 
 
Sent via the Samsung = GALAXY=20 S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE = smartphone


--------=20 Original message --------
From: bachldrs--- via Thelist mailto:thelist@zmgna.org =
Date:=20 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: slilves@sbcglobal.net =
Cc:=20 Allen mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net, = Magnette=20 List mailto:TheList@zmgna.org =
Subject:=20 Re: [Thelist] New Member

Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?)  = -
 
Your racing pedigree deserves = respect, and=20 you have mine!  ' Never raced.  ' Did a bit of = autocrossing many=20 years ago - only to discover that under pressure of competition, I = lose=20 all respect for the machine, and just run it balls to the wall. '=20 Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did learn = that I=20 have the wrong temperament for competitive driving.
 
We have some inventory in common: = I'm=20 putting my '65 B together.  It was a basketcase I bought in = '89, and=20 it has yet to see the road. A few other projects intervened, = including my=20 '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but did have a TD for = several=20 years.  Like you, age has been an increasing factor. I still = can get=20 up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working = on the=20 MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but = wonder=20 how long this will last.  I'm having to adjust my attitude: = if I can=20 do it today, that's all I need to know.  Once I finish the = '65, the=20 '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.  I'll be darned if my = long=20 range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even = that=20 looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring these cars well into = their=20 90s - why give up 15 years short of that?  Nevertheless, old = age=20 sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. 
 
OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do = have a=20 '69 C/GT.  OK, not even close, but I got the year right, and = I love=20 the car. It's been lurking in the back of my shop for seven years, = but=20 recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has brakes!  Drives = great=20 around the yard.  A few new switches and I can at least drive = it.
 
In the meantime, my = recently-restored=20 Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging new and continuing=20 problems.  Clutch is leaking down internally, so I've got an = M/C=20 problem.  Not really major, except I'm not looking forward to = pulling=20 the damn thing. 
 
In the meantime, my daily-driver = '73 GT has=20 a cracked head - again...  I've run it on the cracked head = for=20 perhaps a year.  It really runs well. Fast enough to put the=20 proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that = head!  And=20 since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, = I think=20 I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the = whole=20 thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any = more... =20 There's a bit of magic going on in this old cracked head.  ' = Have no=20 idea what it is, but don't want to lose it in the = replacement.  '=20 Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.
 
At any rate, welcome again!  = So glad=20 to see new folks respond so quickly.  ' Look forward to your = presence=20 on the list.
 
Cheers,
Allen

********************************************************<= /B>

Allen = &=20 Florrie Bachelder      =20 =3Diii=3D<

Spring = Creek Home=20 for Wayward MGs

'57 ZB, = '60=20 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT

North = Street, MI=20 48049, USA

http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldr= s

********************************************************<= /B>

 
From:=20 "slilves--- via Thelist" mailto:thelist@zmgna.org
To: = "Steve" mailto:skirby210@cox.net, = "Prentiss=20 Kirk" mailto:kirkprentiss@gmail.com<= BR>Cc:=20 "Allen" mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net,=20 "Magnette List" mailto:TheList@zmgna.org
Sent= :=20 Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM
Subject: Re:=20 [Thelist] New Member
 
Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good = thing.
In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker = MGB=E2=80=99s in=20 the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer = Steve?=E2=80=9D
My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the = process=20 of getting it back together after way too many years of = =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D
I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working = at Huffaker=20 Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT = that needs a=20 complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line = after the TF, and=20 I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I = just hope I live long=20 enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.
Looking forward to meeting everyone on the = =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D
Cheers,
Racer Steve
PS:  I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, = and more=20 recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I = just sold. Probably=20 won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too = dam old!)
 
 
Sent from Windows Mail
 
From: Prentiss=20 Kirk via Thelist
Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, = =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015=20 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E = =E2=80=8EPM
To: Steve
Cc: Allen, Magnette List
 
What about Steve Martin?  Isn=E2=80=99t he a member = too?  8->=20
 
On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> wrote:
 
Steve Carroll
Steve Wagoner
Steve Kaufman
Steve Travato
Steve Hanegan
Steve Kirby
Steve Christiansen
Steve Lilves
 
and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking = at a=20 roster
 
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
 
Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is = figure out=20 Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), = a Steve=20 T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 = kinda guy),=20 let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!
 
Steve H.

On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist = <thelist@zmgna.org> = wrote:
 
Welcome Steve Lilves!  ' Hope you enjoy this list = (informal=20 club, really) as much as we do.  It's one-stop shopping = for=20 entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great=20 friendships.
 
Cheers,
Allen
******************************************************= **=20
Allen=20 & Florrie Bachelder      =20 =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward = MGs
'57=20 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North=20 Street, MI 48049,=20 = USA
http://www.mgexperie= nce.net/member/bachldrs
******************************************************= **
 
From:=20 "Dee via Thelist" <thelist@zmgna.org>
To:=20 "Mike" <mikesmuseum@yahoo.com>
Cc:=20 "Allen" <bachldrs@airadv.net>,=20 "Magnette List" <TheList@zmgna.org>
Sent:=20 Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM
Subject: = Re:=20 [Thelist] New Member
 
We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , = YA=20 another CA member
Dee
 
Sent from my iPad

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Hi = guys,I'd like to add Steve = Lilves in=20 Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Steve has a long-term ZA = project=20 car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm pretty sure he = has a=20 spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to sell, = for=20 example.
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<= /DIV> ------=_NextPart_000_00A9_01D11CBE.95E40E10-- --===============2323643328028024453== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2323643328028024453==-- From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 12 17:53:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2080B25878BA for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 17:53:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from mail-io0-f181.google.com (mail-io0-f181.google.com [209.85.223.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E0D2587D04 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:15:24 -0700 (MST) Received: by iofh3 with SMTP id h3so71736385iof.3 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:16:25 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3MunBhSH8QdzNAMpNX4hXhOiaBFDZS9d9AZqDewPiok=; b=vSzGUDsYE5PhszsI1hmlwC3CfAjE0pjHCVtBTQ6fggP3Of7nt7rGXRtFPQxNF5h0dV c1FCPNsQt1a7ny5rxXdIxrAIrJlc9O+z/+vDLw9xdhdfvGt5jH84heoNyS5+wfOHEMh5 H49OYy+1lbKItZH6IK6FazRRg6SgF66MQEM0b7BW7dDRx7ghUCXgYpwg7Dv3hs5ZR82P Mu3lhAi97x/DLzijDbyI3m4n/dO6yk2NFnP0uOx0GeGgndBREuacvvSWMYl6scaS0z+p 8BOZruGDY2Bc4Rsj9QtCBZ9iIpPKOnwo5G5HSfspxIa0qqSYZCGylUnVpEJmBly3hS91 7SmA== Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.78.23 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:16:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.79.78.23 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Nov 2015 09:16:24 -0800 (PST) References: <56439688.8050208@gmail.com> <55DD9BE4-78EF-4BD3-A691-1694E0ED190F@comcast.net> <96D5A6F7-08E5-4300-BE4F-F6DA2781C49A@verizon.net> <29DFBBC52C3B43D9996F43188E81FC7B@OwnerPC> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 12:16:24 -0500 From: James Hickman To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1730282035963177203== --001a113944e04abfa805245b1a6b Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hate to blow your curve and I know I don't post much but I will be 42 in January. I got my first MG at the age of 30 and I let my last modern car go about five years ago. My wife drives a newer car but I drive my '72 GT in nice weather and my my '63 International Scout when it rains. jimTN Sent from my Nexus pad by ACER James R. Hickman, Jr. Mill Corner Place 248 Bruce Street, Suite 5 Sevierville, TN 37862 On Nov 12, 2015 11:52 AM, "Gene deRuelle" wrote: > you=E2=80=99ll be sorry.......! > > Gene deRuelle > > *From:* Phil Marcel > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:55 PM > *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America > > *Cc:* Chris Kotting > *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] age > > Alan, > > You can drop me from your list. My Magnette burned in a shop fire early > this year. Replaced it with a Twin Cam! > > Phil Marcell > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote= : > > OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76? > > Curious in Michigan, > > Allen > > > Sent from my iPhone > Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs > Allen Bachelder, prop. > > On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist > wrote: > > Jim - > > If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56? > > Chris K. > > On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote: > > Racer Steve, > Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this > wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored bu= t > is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife > claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and > gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother. > Your collection is impressive. Good luck and Safety Fast! > Jim in Pennsylvania > > > > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE smar= tphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: bachldrs--- via Thelist mailto:thelist@zmgna.org > Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: slilves@sbcglobal.net > Cc: Allen mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net , Magnette List > mailto:TheList@zmgna.org > Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member > > Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?) - > > Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine! ' Never raced. > ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under > pressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, and just run > it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; > but I did learn that I have the wrong temperament for competitive driving= . > > We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together. It was = a > basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other > projects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF > but did have a TD for several years. Like you, age has been an increasin= g > factor. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hou= r > while working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, > can't help but wonder how long this will last. I'm having to adjust my > attitude: if I can do it today, that's all I need to know. Once I finish > the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. I'll be darned if my > long range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even > that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring these cars well into > their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that? Nevertheless, old age > sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. > > OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT. OK, not even close, > but I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking in the ba= ck > of my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has > brakes! Drives great around the yard. A few new switches and I can at > least drive it. > > In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with > nagging new and continuing problems. Clutch is leaking down internally, = so > I've got an M/C problem. Not really major, except I'm not looking forwar= d > to pulling the damn thing. > > In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again... > I've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year. It really runs well. > Fast enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address > that head! And since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotu= ne > head, I think I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt > the whole thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more..= . > There's a bit of magic going on in this old cracked head. ' Have no idea > what it is, but don't want to lose it in the replacement. ' Might pick > your brain a bit if you don't mind. > > At any rate, welcome again! So glad to see new folks respond so quickly. > ' Look forward to your presence on the list. > > Cheers, > Allen > > ********************************************************** > > *Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D<* > > *Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs* > > *'57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT* > > *North Street, MI 48049, USA* > > *http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs* > > > ********************************************************** > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"slilves--- via Thelist" mailto:thelist@zmgna.org > > *To: *"Steve" mailto:skirby210@cox.net , "Prentiss > Kirk" mailto:kirkprentiss@gmail.com > *Cc: *"Allen" mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net , "Magnette > List" mailto:TheList@zmgna.org > *Sent: *Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Thelist] New Member > > Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing. > In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s = in the > Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=9D > My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the process of > getting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80= =9D > I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at Huffaker > Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT that nee= ds a > complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line after the= TF, and > I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just hope = I live long enough > to get them all done and don't run out of $$$. > Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D > Cheers, > Racer Steve > PS: I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more recently > a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just sold. Probably= won=E2=80=99t > race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too dam old!) > > > Sent from Windows Mail > > *From:* Prentiss Kirk via Thelist > *Sent:* =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10= =E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E= PM > *To:* Steve > *Cc:* Allen , Magnette List > > What about Steve Martin? Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too? 8-> > > > On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist wrote: > > Steve Carroll > Steve Wagoner > Steve Kaufman > Steve Travato > Steve Hanegan > Steve Kirby > Steve Christiansen > Steve Lilves > > and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a roster > > *From:* Steve Hanegan via Thelist > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM > *To:* bachldrs@comcast.net > *Cc:* Allen ; Magnette List > *Subject:* Re: [Thelist] New Member > > Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out > Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve = T, > a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), let'= s > see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us! > > Steve H. > > On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist > wrote: > > > Welcome Steve Lilves! ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal club, really) > as much as we do. It's one-stop shopping for entertainment, information, > advice, parts, and great friendships. > > Cheers, > Allen > ********************************************************** > > *Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D *'57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT* > *North Street, MI 48049, USA* > *http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs > * > ********************************************************** > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Dee via Thelist" > *To: *"Mike" > *Cc: *"Allen" , "Magnette List" > *Sent: *Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Thelist] New Member > > We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA another CA > member > Dee > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist wrote: > > > Hi guys, > > I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Steve > has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm > pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to > sell, for example. > > Mike Jacobsen > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing listThelist@zmgna.orghttp://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/th= elist_zmgna.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/mg1948@verizon.net > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/deruelle@att.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/jrhickmansevier@gmail.com > > > --001a113944e04abfa805245b1a6b Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I hate to blow your curve and I know I don't post much b= ut I will be 42 in January. I got my first MG at the age of 30 and I let my= last modern car go about five years ago. My wife drives a newer car but I = drive my '72 GT in nice weather and my my '63 International Scout w= hen it rains.

jimTN

Sent from my Nexus pad by ACER

James R. Hickman, Jr.
Mill Corner Place
248 Bruce Street, Suite 5
Sevierville, TN 37862

On Nov 12, 2015 11:52 AM, "Gene deRuelle&qu= ot; <deruelle@att.net> wrote:=
you=E2=80=99ll be sorry.......!
=C2=A0
Gene deRuelle
=C2=A0
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age
=C2=A0
Alan,
=C2=A0
You can drop me from your list. My Magnette burned in=20 a shop fire early this year.=C2=A0 Replaced it with a Twin Cam!
=C2=A0
Phil Marcell

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs@comcast.net>=20 wrote:

OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76?<= /div>
=C2=A0
Curious in Michigan,
=C2=A0
Allen


Sent from my iPhone=20
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
Allen Bachelder, prop.

On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org>= wrote:

Jim -

If you're the teenager at 64, what=20 am I at 56?

Chris K.

On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schult= e via=20 Thelist wrote:
Racer Steve,
Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenag= er in=20 this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being=20 restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body s= hell=20 that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. Sh= e is a 58 ZB=20 steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 y= ear=20 old Mother.
Your collection is impressive.=C2=A0 Good luck and Safety Fast!<= /div>
Jim in Pennsylvania
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Sent via the Samsung GALAX= Y=20 S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

--------=20 Original message --------
From: bachldrs--- via Thelist mailto:thelist@zmgna.org <= br>Date:=20 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: slilves@sbcglobal.net
Cc:=20 Allen mailto= :bachldrs@airadv.net, Magnette=20 List mailto:Th= eList@zmgna.org
Subject:=20 Re: [Thelist] New Member

Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?)=C2=A0 -
=C2=A0
Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and=20 you have mine!=C2=A0 ' Never raced.=C2=A0 ' Did a bit of auto= crossing many=20 years ago - only to discover that under pressure of competition, I lo= se=20 all respect for the machine, and just run it balls to the wall. '= =20 Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did le= arn that I=20 have the wrong temperament for competitive driving.
=C2=A0
We have some inventory in common: I'm=20 putting my '65 B together.=C2=A0 It was a basketcase I bought in = '89, and=20 it has yet to see the road. A few other projects intervened, includin= g my=20 '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but did have a TD for= several=20 years.=C2=A0 Like you, age has been an increasing factor. I still can= get=20 up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working on t= he=20 MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but = wonder=20 how long this will last.=C2=A0 I'm having to adjust my attitude: = if I can=20 do it today, that's all I need to know.=C2=A0 Once I finish the &= #39;65, the=20 '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.=C2=A0 I'll be darne= d if my long=20 range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even th= at=20 looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring these cars well int= o their=20 90s - why give up 15 years short of that?=C2=A0 Nevertheless, old age= =20 sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a=20 '69 C/GT.=C2=A0 OK, not even close, but I got the year right, and= I love=20 the car. It's been lurking in the back of my shop for seven years= , but=20 recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has brakes!=C2=A0 Drives great= =20 around the yard.=C2=A0 A few new switches and I can at least drive=20 it.
=C2=A0
In the meantime, my recently-restored=20 Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging new and continuing=20 problems.=C2=A0 Clutch is leaking down internally, so I've got an= M/C=20 problem.=C2=A0 Not really major, except I'm not looking forward t= o pulling=20 the damn thing.=C2=A0
=C2=A0
In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has=20 a cracked head - again...=C2=A0 I've run it on the cracked head f= or=20 perhaps a year.=C2=A0 It really runs well. Fast enough to put the=20 proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that head!=C2=A0 A= nd=20 since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head,= I think=20 I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt t= he whole=20 thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more= ...=C2=A0=20 There's a bit of magic going on in this old cracked head.=C2=A0 &= #39; Have no=20 idea what it is, but don't want to lose it in the replacement.=C2= =A0 '=20 Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.
=C2=A0
At any rate, welcome again!=C2=A0 So glad=20 to see new folks respond so quickly.=C2=A0 ' Look forward to your= presence=20 on the list.
=C2=A0
Cheers,
Allen

***************************************= *****************

Allen &=20 Florrie Bachelder=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 =3Diii=3D<

Spring Creek Home=20 for Wayward MGs

'57 ZB, '60=20 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT

North Street, MI=20 48049, USA

http://www.mgexperience.net/member= /bachldrs

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=C2=A0
Fro= m:=20 "slilves--- via Thelist" mailto:thelist@zmgna.org
To:=20 "Steve" mailto:skirby210@cox.net, "Prentiss=20 Kirk" mailto:kirkprentiss@gmail.com
Cc:=20 "Allen" mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net,=20 "Magnette List" mailto:TheList@zmgna.org
Sent:=20 Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM
Subject: Re:=20 [Thelist] New Member
=C2=A0
=20
Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing.
In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker M= GB=E2=80=99s in=20 the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?= =E2=80=9D
My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the= process=20 of getting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest= .=E2=80=9D
I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at H= uffaker=20 Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT = that needs a=20 complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line a= fter the TF, and=20 I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just h= ope I live long=20 enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.
Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80= =9D
Cheers,
Racer Steve
PS:=C2=A0 I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and= more=20 recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just s= old. Probably=20 won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too da= m old!)
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Sent from Windows Mail
=C2=A0
From:=C2=A0Prentiss=20 Kirk via Thelist
Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2= =80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015=20 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM
To:=C2= =A0Steve
C= c:=C2=A0Allen<= /a>, Magnette List
=C2=A0
What about Steve Martin?=C2=A0 Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too?=C2= =A0 8->=20
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Steve Carroll
Steve Wagoner
Steve Kaufman
Steve Travato
Steve Hanegan
Steve Kirby
Steve Christiansen
Steve Lilves
=C2=A0
and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at= a=20 roster
=C2=A0
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
=C2=A0
Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure o= ut=20 Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a = Steve=20 T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda g= uy),=20 let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!
=C2=A0
Steve H.

On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist <<= a href=3D"mailto:thelist@zmgna.org" target=3D"_blank">thelist@zmgna.org= > wrote:
=C2=A0
Welcome Steve Lilves!=C2=A0 ' Hope you enjoy this list (= informal=20 club, really) as much as we do.=C2=A0 It's one-stop shopping = for=20 entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great=20 friendships.
=C2=A0
Cheers,
Allen
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Allen=20 & Florrie Bachelder=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20 =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57=20 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT<= /div>
North=20 Street, MI 48049,=20 USA
=
http://w= ww.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
<= /div>
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=C2=A0
From:=20 "Dee via Thelist" <thelist@zmgna.org>
To:=20 "Mike" <mikesmuseum@yahoo.com>
Cc:=20 "Allen" <bachldrs@airadv.net>,=20 "Magnette List" <TheList@zmgna.org>
Sent:=20 Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM
Subject: Re:= =20 [Thelist] New Member
=C2=A0
We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA= =20 another CA member
Dee
=C2=A0
Sent from my iPad

On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> = wrote:
=C2=A0
Hi guys,

I'd like to add Steve Lilv= es in=20 Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Steve has a long-term ZA pr= oject=20 car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm pretty sure he= has a=20 spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to sell, f= or=20 example.

Mike Jacobsen

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--001a113944e04abfa805245b1a6b-- --===============1730282035963177203== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1730282035963177203==-- From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 14 13:52:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C9B258553E for ; Sat, 14 Nov 2015 13:52:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC2S4.hotmail.com (col004-omc2s4.hotmail.com [65.55.34.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B7525850F2 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 06:21:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from COL402-EAS77 ([65.55.34.72]) by COL004-OMC2S4.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Fri, 13 Nov 2015 05:22:50 -0800 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 08:22:44 -0500 Importance: normal From: James Schulte To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America FILETIME=[654F3AA0:01D11E16] Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4868509577331434368== boundary="_6287bc6c-c58c-4b0a-866c-631ac5ba13be_" --_6287bc6c-c58c-4b0a-866c-631ac5ba13be_ boundary="--_com.android.email_4507010762578140" ----_com.android.email_4507010762578140 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable JamesYou are a renisance man.Jim Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2=2C an AT&T 4G LTE smar= tphone -------- Original message -------- From: James Hickman Date: 11/13/2015 4:12 AM (GMT-05:00) To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age I hate to blow your curve and I know I don't post much but I will be 42 in January. I got my first MG at the age of 30 and I let my last modern car go about five years ago. My wife drives a newer car but I drive my '72 GT in nice weather and my my '63 International Scout when it rains. jimTN Sent from my Nexus pad by ACER James R. Hickman=2C Jr. Mill Corner Place 248 Bruce Street=2C Suite 5 Sevierville=2C TN 37862 On Nov 12=2C 2015 11:52 AM=2C "Gene deRuelle" wrote: > you=E2=80=99ll be sorry.......! > > Gene deRuelle > > *From:* Phil Marcel > *Sent:* Wednesday=2C November 11=2C 2015 1:55 PM > *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America > > *Cc:* Chris Kotting > *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] age > > Alan=2C > > You can drop me from your list. My Magnette burned in a shop fire early > this year. Replaced it with a Twin Cam! > > Phil Marcell > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 11=2C 2015=2C at 1:50 PM=2C Allen Bachelder = wrote: > > OK=2C so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76? > > Curious in Michigan=2C > > Allen > > > Sent from my iPhone > Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs > Allen Bachelder=2C prop. > > On Nov 11=2C 2015=2C at 2:27 PM=2C Chris Kotting via Thelist > wrote: > > Jim - > > If you're the teenager at 64=2C what am I at 56? > > Chris K. > > On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM=2C James Schulte via Thelist wrote: > > Racer Steve=2C > Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this > wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored bu= t > is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife > claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and > gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother. > Your collection is impressive. Good luck and Safety Fast! > Jim in Pennsylvania > > > > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2=2C an AT&T 4G LTE sm= artphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: bachldrs--- via Thelist mailto:thelist@zmgna.org > Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: slilves@sbcglobal.net > Cc: Allen mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net =2C Magnette Li= st > mailto:TheList@zmgna.org > Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member > > Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?) - > > Your racing pedigree deserves respect=2C and you have mine! ' Never race= d. > ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under > pressure of competition=2C I lose all respect for the machine=2C and just= run > it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT= =3B > but I did learn that I have the wrong temperament for competitive driving= . > > We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together. It was = a > basketcase I bought in '89=2C and it has yet to see the road. A few other > projects intervened=2C including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a = TF > but did have a TD for several years. Like you=2C age has been an increas= ing > factor. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hou= r > while working on the MGs=2C but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks= =2C > can't help but wonder how long this will last. I'm having to adjust my > attitude: if I can do it today=2C that's all I need to know. Once I fini= sh > the '65=2C the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. I'll be darned if m= y > long range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even > that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring these cars well into > their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that? Nevertheless=2C old age > sucks=2C as I'm sure you'll agree. > > OK=2C so my B/GT is a '73=2C but I do have a '69 C/GT. OK=2C not even cl= ose=2C > but I got the year right=2C and I love the car. It's been lurking in the = back > of my shop for seven years=2C but recently=2C courtesy of Robert Kirk=2C = it has > brakes! Drives great around the yard. A few new switches and I can at > least drive it. > > In the meantime=2C my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with > nagging new and continuing problems. Clutch is leaking down internally= =2C so > I've got an M/C problem. Not really major=2C except I'm not looking forw= ard > to pulling the damn thing. > > In the meantime=2C my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again... > I've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year. It really runs well. > Fast enough to put the proverbial smile on my face=2C but I have to addre= ss > that head! And since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotu= ne > head=2C I think I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebui= lt > the whole thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more..= . > There's a bit of magic going on in this old cracked head. ' Have no idea > what it is=2C but don't want to lose it in the replacement. ' Might pick > your brain a bit if you don't mind. > > At any rate=2C welcome again! So glad to see new folks respond so quickl= y. > ' Look forward to your presence on the list. > > Cheers=2C > Allen > > ********************************************************** > > *Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D<* > > *Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs* > > *'57 ZB=2C '60 A1600=2C '65 B=2C '69 C/GT=2C '73 B/GT* > > *North Street=2C MI 48049=2C USA* > > *http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs* > > > ********************************************************** > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"slilves--- via Thelist" mailto:thelist@zmgna.org > > *To: *"Steve" mailto:skirby210@cox.net =2C "Prentiss > Kirk" mailto:kirkprentiss@gmail.com > *Cc: *"Allen" mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net =2C "Magnet= te > List" mailto:TheList@zmgna.org > *Sent: *Tuesday=2C November 10=2C 2015 10:59:04 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Thelist] New Member > > Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans=2C a really good thing. > In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s = in the > Cal .Club region of the SCCA=2C so how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80= =9D > My first car was a 1955 TF=2C which I still have. We're in the process of > getting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80= =9D > I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at Huffaker > Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up=2C a =E2=80=9869 BGT that n= eeds a > complete restoration=2C a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line after t= he TF=2C and > I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just hope = I live long enough > to get them all done and don't run out of $$$. > Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D > Cheers=2C > Racer Steve > PS: I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then=2C and more recent= ly > a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just sold. Probably= won=E2=80=99t > race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too dam old!) > > > Sent from Windows Mail > > *From:* Prentiss Kirk via Thelist > *Sent:* =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E=2C =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E= 10=E2=80=8E=2C =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2= =80=8EPM > *To:* Steve > *Cc:* Allen =2C Magnette List > > What about Steve Martin? Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too? 8-> > > > On Nov 10=2C 2015=2C at 7:13 PM=2C Steve via Thelist = wrote: > > Steve Carroll > Steve Wagoner > Steve Kaufman > Steve Travato > Steve Hanegan > Steve Kirby > Steve Christiansen > Steve Lilves > > and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a roster > > *From:* Steve Hanegan via Thelist > *Sent:* Tuesday=2C November 10=2C 2015 6:11 PM > *To:* bachldrs@comcast.net > *Cc:* Allen =3B Magnette List > *Subject:* Re: [Thelist] New Member > > Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out > Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me)=2C a Stev= e T=2C > a #1Steve K. (Kaufman)=2C a #2Steve K. (Kirby=2C really a #1 kinda guy)= =2C let's > see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us! > > Steve H. > > On Nov 10=2C 2015=2C at 5:49 PM=2C bachldrs--- via Thelist > wrote: > > > Welcome Steve Lilves! ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal club=2C reall= y) > as much as we do. It's one-stop shopping for entertainment=2C informatio= n=2C > advice=2C parts=2C and great friendships. > > Cheers=2C > Allen > ********************************************************** > > *Allen & Florrie Bachelder =3Diii=3D *'57 ZB=2C '60 A1600=2C '65 B=2C '69 C/GT=2C '73 B/GT* > *North Street=2C MI 48049=2C USA* > *http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs > * > ********************************************************** > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Dee via Thelist" > *To: *"Mike" > *Cc: *"Allen" =2C "Magnette List" > *Sent: *Tuesday=2C November 10=2C 2015 8:25:12 PM > *Subject: *Re: [Thelist] New Member > > We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve =2C YA another CA > member > Dee > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 10=2C 2015=2C at 3:46 PM=2C Mike via Thelist w= rote: > > > Hi guys=2C > > I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera=2C CA to our merry band. Ste= ve > has a long-term ZA project car=2C plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm > pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to > sell=2C for example. > > Mike Jacobsen > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing listThelist@zmgna.orghttp://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/th= elist_zmgna.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/mg1948@verizon.net > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/deruelle@att.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/jrhickmansevier@gmail.com > > > ----_com.android.email_4507010762578140 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
James
You are a renisance man.
Jim



Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S= =C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2=2C an AT&=3BT 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: James Hickman <=3Bjrhickmansevier@gmail.com>=3B
Date: 11/13/2015 4:12 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <=3Bzmagnette@autox.tea= m.net>=3B
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age

I hate to blow your curve and I know I don't post much but I= will be 42 in January. I got my first MG at the age of 30 and I let my las= t modern car go about five years ago. My wife drives a newer car but I driv= e my '72 GT in nice weather and my my '63 International Scout when it rains.

jimTN

Sent from my Nexus pad by ACER

James R. Hickman=2C Jr.
Mill Corner Place
248 Bruce Street=2C Suite 5
Sevierville=2C TN 37862

On Nov 12=2C 2015 11:52 AM=2C "=3BGene deR= uelle"=3B <=3Bderuelle@att.net>=3B wrote:
you=E2=80=99ll be sorry.......!
 =3B
Gene deRuelle
Alan=2C
 =3B
You can drop me from your list. My Magnette burned in a shop fire earl= y this year. =3B Replaced it with a Twin Cam!
 =3B
Phil Marcell

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 11=2C 2015=2C at 1:50 PM=2C Allen Bachelder <=3Bbachldrs@comcast.net>=3B wrot= e:

OK=2C so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76?<= /div>
 =3B
Curious in Michigan=2C
 =3B
Allen


Sent from my iPhone
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
Allen Bachelder=2C prop.

On Nov 11=2C 2015=2C at 2:27 PM=2C Chris Kotting via Thelist <=3Bthelist@zmgna.org>=3B= wrote:

Jim -

If you're the teenager at 64=2C what am I at 56?

Chris K.

On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM=2C James Schulte via Thelist wrote:
Racer Steve=2C
Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this= wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored but= is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife = claims is hers and "=3BJeanne"=3B our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and gets the best awards at car show= s. Named after my 92 year old Mother.
Your collection is impressive. =3B Good luck and Safety Fast!
Jim in Pennsylvania
 =3B
 =3B
 =3B
Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S= =C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2=2C an AT&=3BT 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: bachldrs--- via Thelist mailto:thelist@zmgna.org
Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: slilves@sbcg= lobal.net
Cc: Allen mailto:b= achldrs@airadv.net=2C Magnette List mailto:TheList@zmgna= .org
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member

Hey Racer Steve ("=3BRS"=3B?) =3B -
 =3B
Your racing pedigree deserves respect=2C and you have mine! =3B ' = Never raced. =3B ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to d= iscover that under pressure of competition=2C I lose all respect for the ma= chine=2C and just run it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT=3B but I did learn that I have the w= rong temperament for competitive driving.
 =3B
We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together. = =3B It was a basketcase I bought in '89=2C and it has yet to see the road. = A few other projects intervened=2C including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have ne= ver had a TF but did have a TD for several years. =3B Like you=2C age has been an increasing factor. I still can get up and down= from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working on the MGs=2C but wit= h age 76 coming up in a couple weeks=2C can't help but wonder how long this= will last. =3B I'm having to adjust my attitude: if I can do it today=2C that's all I need to know. =3B Once I finish t= he '65=2C the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. =3B I'll be darned = if my long range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and ev= en that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that? = =3B Nevertheless=2C old age sucks=2C as I'm sure you'll agree. =3B
 =3B
OK=2C so my B/GT is a '73=2C but I do have a '69 C/GT. =3B OK=2C n= ot even close=2C but I got the year right=2C and I love the car. It's been = lurking in the back of my shop for seven years=2C but recently=2C courtesy = of Robert Kirk=2C it has brakes! =3B Drives great around the yard. =3B A few new switches and I can at least drive it.
 =3B
In the meantime=2C my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me w= ith nagging new and continuing problems. =3B Clutch is leaking down int= ernally=2C so I've got an M/C problem. =3B Not really major=2C except I= 'm not looking forward to pulling the damn thing. =3B
 =3B
In the meantime=2C my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again..= . =3B I've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year. =3B It re= ally runs well. Fast enough to put the proverbial smile on my face=2C but I= have to address that head! =3B And since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head=2C I think I'll have to go t= hrough the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in '92 but = oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more... =3B There's a bit of magic g= oing on in this old cracked head. =3B ' Have no idea what it is=2C but don't want to lose it in the replacement. = =3B ' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.
 =3B
At any rate=2C welcome again! =3B So glad to see new folks respond= so quickly. =3B ' Look forward to your presence on the list.
 =3B
Cheers=2C
Allen

*********************************************= ***********

Allen &=3B Florrie Bachelder =3B = =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3Diii=3D<=3B

Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs

'57 ZB=2C '60 A1600=2C '65 B=2C '69 C/GT=2C '= 73 B/GT

North Street=2C MI 48049=2C USA

http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachl= drs

*********************************************= ***********

 =3B
From: "=3Bslilves--- via Thelist"=3B mailto:thelist@zmgna.org
To: "=3BSteve"=3B mailto:skirby210@cox.net=2C "=3BPrentiss Kirk"=3B mailto:kirkpren= tiss@gmail.com
Cc: "=3BAllen"=3B mailto:bachldrs@airadv.net=2C "=3BMagnette List"= =3B mailto:TheList@zmgna= .org
Sent: Tuesday=2C November 10=2C 2015 10:59:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
 =3B
Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans=2C a really good thing.
In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB=E2=80= =99s in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA=2C so how about =E2=80=9CRacer Ste= ve?=E2=80=9D
My first car was a 1955 TF=2C which I still have. We're in the process= of getting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest.=E2= =80=9D
I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at Huffake= r Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up=2C a =E2=80=9869 BGT that n= eeds a complete restoration=2C a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line af= ter the TF=2C and I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countrym= an. I just hope I live long enough to get them all done and don't run out of $= $$.
Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D
Cheers=2C
Racer Steve
PS: =3B I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then=2C and m= ore recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just sol= d. Probably won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (= too dam old!)
 =3B
 =3B
Sent from Windows Mail
 =3B
From: =3BPrentiss Kirk via Thelist Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E=2C =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80= =8E10=E2=80=8E=2C =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E = =E2=80=8EPM
To: =3BSt= eve
Cc: =3B= Allen=2C Magnette List
 =3B
What about Steve Martin? =3B Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too? = =3B 8->=3B
 =3B
On Nov 10=2C 2015=2C at 7:13 PM=2C Steve via Thelist <=3Bthelist@zmgna.org>=3B wro= te:
 =3B
Steve Carroll
Steve Wagoner
Steve Kaufman
Steve Travato
Steve Hanegan
Steve Kirby
Steve Christiansen
Steve Lilves
 =3B
and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a roste= r
 =3B
Sent: Tuesday=2C November 10=2C 2015 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
 =3B
Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out Steve= -what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me)=2C a Steve T=2C = a #1Steve K. (Kaufman)=2C a #2Steve K. (Kirby=2C really a #1 kinda guy)=2C = let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!
 =3B
Steve H.

On Nov 10=2C 2015=2C at 5:49 PM=2C bachldrs--- via Thelist <=3Bthelist@zmgna.org>=3B wr= ote:
 =3B
Welcome Steve Lilves! =3B ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal clu= b=2C really) as much as we do. =3B It's one-stop shopping for entertain= ment=2C information=2C advice=2C parts=2C and great friendships.
 =3B
Cheers=2C
Allen
********************************************************
Allen &=3B Florrie Bachelder =3B =3B =3B =3B = =3B =3B =3Diii=3D<=3B
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB=2C '60 A1600=2C '65 B=2C '69 C/GT=2C '73 B/GT
North Street=2C MI 48049=2C USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
********************************************************=
 =3B
From: "=3BDee via Thelist"=3B <=3Bthelist@zmgna.org>=3B
To: "=3BMike"=3B <=3Bmikesmuseum@yahoo.com>=3B
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We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve =2C YA another= CA member
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On Nov 10=2C 2015=2C at 3:46 PM=2C Mike via Thelist <=3Bthelist@zmgna.org>=3B wrote:
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Hi guys=2C

I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera=2C CA to our merry band. Steve= has a long-term ZA project car=2C plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm = pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to se= ll=2C for example.

Mike Jacobsen

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IsabelPC ([74.196.199.90]) by txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.03.20 201-2389-100-164-20150330) with ESMTP id <20151113195317.PHB2875.txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net@IsabelPC>; Fri, 13 Nov 2015 13:53:17 -0600 From: "Isabel and Wayne Hardy" To: "List for the Z Magnette Group - North America" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2015 13:53:14 -0600 Importance: Normal a=qtqOOiqGOCEA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=KgtOI5tkmNyirE10tPQA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=42KkOMO5t3gA:10 a=4uyVI3tJuidfZSfUVBwA:9 a=4C2W7RLs2_SPRDUu:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Subject: [Zmagnette] YOU TUBE Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3097516744595057859== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01D11E1A.A4386F80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01D11E1A.A4386F80 charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone ever explore the neat little =93MG Cars Channel=94 flicks on You = tube. Lots of really nice little shorts on a whole variety of MG types = including the ZA/ZB types, TDs, TCs, MGAs, MGBs , and some of the prewar = ones too. Only a couple mins long but I just wasted about an hour = watching little BBC pieces on You Tube about british cars...Then there = is the hour long one on British Sports Cars and when they ruled the = world. Save that one for a stormy day. Wombat Wayne & Isabel Hardy 936-829-5427 gwhardy@suddenlink.net ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01D11E1A.A4386F80 charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone ever explore the neat little =93MG Cars = Channel=94 flicks=20 on You tube. Lots of really nice little shorts on a whole variety of MG = types=20 including the ZA/ZB types, TDs, TCs, MGAs, MGBs , and some of the prewar = ones=20 too. Only a couple mins long but I just wasted about an hour watching = little BBC=20 pieces on You Tube about british cars...Then there is the hour long one = on=20 British Sports Cars and when they ruled the world. Save that one for a = stormy=20 day.
 
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