Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age <zmagnette.autox.team.net> <[email-masked]>

From: Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 14:50:07 -0500

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 OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76?

Curious in Michigan,

Allen=20

Sent from my iPhone
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
Allen Bachelder, prop.=20

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>=20
> Jim -
>=20
> If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56?
>=20
> Chris K.
>=20
>> On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote:
>> Racer Steve,
>> Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this wi=
ly old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored but is o=
n the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife claims=
 is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and gets the=
 best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother.
>> Your collection is impressive.  Good luck and Safety Fast!
>> Jim in Pennsylvania=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE smar=
tphone
>>=20
>>=20
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <[email-masked]>=20
>> Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)=20
>> To: [email-masked]=20
>> Cc: Allen <[email-masked]>, Magnette List <[email-masked]>=20
>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member=20
>>=20
>> Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?)  -
>>=20
>> Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine!  ' Never raced.=
  ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under p=
ressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, and just run it b=
alls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I d=
id learn that I have the wrong temperament for competitive driving.
>>=20
>> We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together.  It was a=
 basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other pro=
jects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but d=
id have a TD for several years.  Like you, age has been an increasing factor=
. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while w=
orking on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help b=
ut wonder how long this will last.  I'm having to adjust my attitude: if I c=
an do it today, that's all I need to know.  Once I finish the '65, the '60 A=
 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.  I'll be darned if my long range plans shou=
ld be limited by my long range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I=
've known guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 yea=
rs short of that?  Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. =20=

>>=20
>> OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT.  OK, not even close, b=
ut I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking in the back o=
f my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has bra=
kes!  Drives great around the yard.  A few new switches and I can at least d=
rive it.
>>=20
>> In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with n=
agging new and continuing problems.  Clutch is leaking down internally, so I=
've got an M/C problem.  Not really major, except I'm not looking forward to=
 pulling the damn thing. =20
>>=20
>> In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again...  I'=
ve run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year.  It really runs well. Fast=
 enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that h=
ead!  And since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, I=
 think I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole=
 thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more...  There's a=
 bit of magic going on in this old cracked head.  ' Have no idea what it is,=
 but don't want to lose it in the replacement.  ' Might pick your brain a bi=
t if you don't mind.
>>=20
>> At any rate, welcome again!  So glad to see new folks respond so quickly.=
  ' Look forward to your presence on the list.
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>> Allen
>> ********************************************************
>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>> '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>> North Street, MI 48049, USA
>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>> ********************************************************
>>=20
>> From: "slilves--- via Thelist" <[email-masked]>
>> To: "Steve" <[email-masked]>, "Prentiss Kirk" <[email-masked]>=

>> Cc: "Allen" <[email-masked]>, "Magnette List" <[email-masked]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
>>=20
>> Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing.
>> In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s i=
n the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=
=9D
>> My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the process of g=
etting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D
>> I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at Huffaker E=
ngineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT that needs a=
 complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line after the T=
F, and I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just h=
ope I live long enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.
>> Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D
>> Cheers,
>> Racer Steve
>> PS:  I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more recently=
 a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just sold. Probably w=
on=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too dam old!)
>>=20
>>=20
>> Sent from Windows Mail
>>=20
>> From: Prentiss Kirk via Thelist
>> Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=
=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM
>> To: Steve
>> Cc: Allen, Magnette List
>>=20
>> What about Steve Martin?  Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too?  8->
>>=20
>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>>=20
>> Steve Carroll
>> Steve Wagoner
>> Steve Kaufman
>> Steve Travato
>> Steve Hanegan
>> Steve Kirby
>> Steve Christiansen
>> Steve Lilves
>> =20
>> and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a roster
>> =20
>> From: Steve Hanegan via Thelist
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM
>> To: [email-masked]
>> Cc: Allen ; Magnette List
>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
>> =20
>> Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out Steve-wh=
at would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve T, a #1Stev=
e K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), let's see... Wh=
o am I leaving out... a bunch of us!
>>=20
>> Steve H.
>>=20
>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>>=20
>> Welcome Steve Lilves!  ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal club, really)=
 as much as we do.  It's one-stop shopping for entertainment, information, a=
dvice, parts, and great friendships.
>> =20
>> Cheers,
>> Allen
>> ********************************************************
>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>> '57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>> North Street, MI 48049, USA
>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>> ********************************************************
>> =20
>> From: "Dee via Thelist" <[email-masked]>
>> To: "Mike" <[email-masked]>
>> Cc: "Allen" <[email-masked]>, "Magnette List" <[email-masked]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member
>> =20
>> We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA another CA m=
ember
>> Dee
>> =20
>> Sent from my iPad
>>=20
>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist <[email-masked]> wrote:
>> =20
>> Hi guys,
>>=20
>> I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Steve=
 has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm pre=
tty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to sell, f=
or example.
>>=20
>> Mike Jacobsen
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>&nbsp;OK, so who on the list is under 5=
6? How many are over my age of 76?</div><div><br></div><div>Curious in Michi=
gan,</div><div><br></div><div>Allen&nbsp;</div><div><br><br><div>Sent from m=
y iPhone<div>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</div><div>Allen Bachelder, pr=
op.&nbsp;</div></div></div><div><br>On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotti=
ng via Thelist &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Jim -<br>
      <br>
      If you're the teenager at 64, what am I at 56?<br>
      <br>
      Chris K.<br>
      <br>
      On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte via Thelist wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote cite=3D"mid:[email-masked]" t=
ype=3D"cite">
      <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-=
8">
      <div>Racer Steve,</div>
      <div>Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the
        teenager in this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that
        is still being restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A
        70B Heritage body shell that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne"
        our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and gets the best
        awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother.</div>
      <div>Your collection is impressive. &nbsp;Good luck and Safety Fast!</=
div>
      <div>Jim in Pennsylvania&nbsp;</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div id=3D"composer_signature">
        <div style=3D"font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent via the Samsung
          GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&amp;T 4G LTE smartphone</di=
v>
      </div>
      <br>
      <br>
      -------- Original message --------<br>
      From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> <br>
      Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>
      To: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:slilves@sbcgl=
obal.net">[email-masked]</a> <br>
      Cc: Allen <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@a=
iradv.net">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>, Magnette List
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&=
lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a> <br>
      Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member <br>
      <br>
      <div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000">
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?) &nbsp;-</di=
v>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Your racing pedigree deserves
          respect, and you have mine! &nbsp;' Never raced. &nbsp;' Did a bit=
 of
          autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under
          pressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine,
          and just run it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't
          destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did learn that I have the
          wrong temperament for competitive driving. </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">We have some inventory in common:
          I'm putting my '65 B together. &nbsp;It was a basketcase I bought
          in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other projects
          intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a
          TF but did have a TD for several years. &nbsp;Like you, age has
          been an increasing factor. I still can get up and down from my
          creeper a dozen times per hour while working on the MGs, but
          with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but wonder
          how long this will last. &nbsp;I'm having to adjust my attitude: i=
f
          I can do it today, that's all I need to know. &nbsp;Once I finish
          the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. &nbsp;I'll be
          darned if my long range plans should be limited by my long
          range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've known
          guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15
          years short of that? &nbsp;Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sur=
e
          you'll agree. &nbsp;</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do
          have a '69 C/GT. &nbsp;OK, not even close, but I got the year
          right, and I love the car. It's been lurking in the back of my
          shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk,
          it has brakes! &nbsp;Drives great around the yard. &nbsp;A few new=

          switches and I can at least drive it.</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">In the meantime, my
          recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging
          new and continuing problems. &nbsp;Clutch is leaking down
          internally, so I've got an M/C problem. &nbsp;Not really major,
          except I'm not looking forward to pulling the damn thing. &nbsp;</=
div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">In the meantime, my daily-driver
          '73 GT has a cracked head - again... &nbsp;I've run it on the
          cracked head for perhaps a year. &nbsp;It really runs well. Fast
          enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to
          address that head! &nbsp;And since I'm thinking of something akin
          to a Burgess econotune head, I think I'll have to go through
          the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in
          '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more... &nbsp;There's a=

          bit of magic going on in this old cracked head. &nbsp;' Have no
          idea what it is, but don't want to lose it in the replacement.
          &nbsp;' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">At any rate, welcome again! &nbsp;S=
o
          glad to see new folks respond so quickly. &nbsp;' Look forward to
          your presence on the list.</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br>
        </div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Cheers,</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Allen</div>
        <div aria-label=3D"Compose body">
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>****************************************************=
****</i></b></p>
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =3D=
iii=3D&lt;</i></b></p>
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</i></b></p>
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>'57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</i></b>=
</p>
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>North Street, MI 48049, USA</i></b></p>
          <p class=3D"p2" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><span class=3D"s1"><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"htt=
p://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" data-mce-href=3D"http://www.mgexpe=
rience.net/member/bachldrs"><b><i>http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldr=
s</i></b></a></span></p>
          <p class=3D"p1" style=3D"margin: 0px;" data-mce-style=3D"margin:
            0px;"><b><i>****************************************************=
****</i></b></p>
        </div>
        <div><br>
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          normal; text-decoration: none; font-family:
          Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"slilve=
s---
          via Thelist" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:the=
[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
          <b>To: </b>"Steve" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>, "Prentiss Kirk"
          <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:kirkprentiss@gma=
il.com">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Cc: </b>"Allen" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a>, "Magnette
          List" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:TheList@zm=
gna.org">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</a><br>
          <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM<br>
          <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Thelist] New Member<br>
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            <div>Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good
              thing.</div>
            <div>In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production
              Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so=
 how
              about&nbsp;=E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=9D</div>
            <div>My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're
              in the process of getting it back together after way too
              many years of&nbsp;=E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D</div>
            <div>I also have a&nbsp;=E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while wo=
rking at
              Huffaker Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up,
              a&nbsp;=E2=80=9869 BGT that needs a complete restoration, a&nb=
sp;=E2=80=9C55 ZA
              Magnetite that's in line after the TF, and I=E2=80=99m almost d=
one
              with my&nbsp;=E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just hope I live l=
ong
              enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.</div>
            <div>Looking forward to meeting everyone on the&nbsp;=E2=80=9CLi=
st.=E2=80=9D</div>
            <div>Cheers,</div>
            <div>Racer Steve</div>
            <div>PS:&nbsp; I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then=
,
              and more recently a&nbsp;=E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turne=
r MKIII
              that I just sold. Probably won=E2=80=99t race any more due to b=
ack
              and shoulder problems (too dam old!)</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
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              <div>Sent from Windows Mail</div>
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                  'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun
                  Gothic', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From:</b>&nbsp;<=
a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Prentiss
                    Kirk via Thelist</a><br>
                  <b>Sent:</b>&nbsp;=E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENove=
mber=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015
                  =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM<br>
                  <b>To:</b>&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:skirby210@cox.=
net">Steve</a><br>
                  <b>Cc:</b>&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:bachldrs@air=
adv.net">Allen</a>,
                  <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
rg" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Magnette
                    List</a></span></div>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div dir=3D"">What about Steve Martin? &nbsp;Isn=E2=80=99t he a m=
ember too?
              &nbsp;8-&gt;
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                    <div>On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist
                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:thelist=
@zmgna.org" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">the=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;
                      wrote:</div>
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                            <div>Steve Carroll</div>
                            <div>Steve Wagoner</div>
                            <div>Steve Kaufman</div>
                            <div>Steve Travato</div>
                            <div>Steve Hanegan</div>
                            <div>Steve Kirby</div>
                            <div>Steve Christiansen</div>
                            <div>Steve Lilves</div>
                            <div>&nbsp;</div>
                            <div>and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head .=
 . .
                              w/o looking at a roster</div>
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                                  <div><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send=3D"tr=
ue" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">Steve
                                      Hanegan via Thelist</a></div>
                                  <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November
                                    10, 2015 6:11 PM</div>
                                  <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true=
" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]"></a><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></div>
                                  <div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true=
" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">Allen</a>
                                    ; <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:TheList@zm=
gna.org">Magnette
                                      List</a></div>
                                  <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Thelist] New
                                    Member</div>
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                              <div>Welcome to the party Steve! Now all
                                you have to do is figure out Steve-what
                                would you like to be called - we have a
                                Steve H (me), a Steve T, a #1Steve K.
                                (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a
                                #1 kinda guy), let's see... Who am I
                                leaving out... a bunch of us!<br>
                                <div><br>
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                                Steve H.</div>
                              <div><br>
                                On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs---
                                via Thelist &lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:t=
[email-masked]"></a><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:t=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
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                                    <div>Welcome Steve Lilves!&nbsp; ' Hope
                                      you enjoy this list (informal
                                      club, really) as much as we do.&nbsp;
                                      It's one-stop shopping for
                                      entertainment, information,
                                      advice, parts, and great
                                      friendships.<br>
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                                    <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                    <div>Cheers,</div>
                                    <div>Allen</div>
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                                      via Thelist" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send=3D=
"true" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]"></a><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"=
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                                      <b>To: </b>"Mike" &lt;<a moz-do-not-se=
nd=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce=
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ted" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=

                                      <b>Cc: </b>"Allen" &lt;<a moz-do-not-s=
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                                      "Magnette List" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send=
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"mailto:[email-masked]"></a><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November
                                      10, 2015 8:25:12 PM<br>
                                      <b>Subject: </b>Re: [Thelist] New
                                      Member<br>
                                      <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                      <div>We have extra doors if anyone
                                        needs them. Welcome Steve , YA
                                        another CA member</div>
                                      <div>Dee<br>
                                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                        Sent from my iPad</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                        On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM,
                                        Mike via Thelist &lt;<a moz-do-not-s=
end=3D"true" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"></a><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
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02612_30865" dir=3D"ltr">Hi guys,<br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447180002612_30851"=
                                              <br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1447180=
002612_30853">
                                              I'd like to add Steve
                                              Lilves in Corte Madera, CA
                                              to our merry band. Steve
                                              has a long-term ZA project
                                              car, plus an assortment of
                                              spare pieces. I'm pretty
                                              sure he has a spare set of
                                              all four doors that he'd
                                              be willing to sell, for
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First week in January I will turn 80.

Gene deRuelle

From: Allen Bachelder=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:50 AM
To: Chris Kotting ; [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age

Curious in Michigan,

Allen=20

Sent from my iPhone=20

On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

  Jim -

  Chris K.

    Racer Steve,
    Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in =
this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being =
restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body =
shell that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a =
58 ZB steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my =
92 year old Mother.
    Your collection is impressive.  Good luck and Safety Fast!
    Jim in Pennsylvania=20

    Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE =
smartphone

    -------- Original message --------
    From: bachldrs--- via Thelist mailto:[email-masked]=20
    Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)=20
    To: [email-masked]=20
    Cc: Allen mailto:[email-masked], Magnette List =
mailto:[email-masked]=20
    Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member=20

    Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine!  ' Never =
raced.  ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover =
that under pressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, =
and just run it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor =
old '73 B/GT; but I did learn that I have the wrong temperament for =
competitive driving.=20

    We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together.  It =
was a basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few =
other projects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never =
had a TF but did have a TD for several years.  Like you, age has been an =
increasing factor. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen =
times per hour while working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a =
couple weeks, can't help but wonder how long this will last.  I'm having =
to adjust my attitude: if I can do it today, that's all I need to know.  =
Once I finish the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.  I'll =
be darned if my long range plans should be limited by my long range =
prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring =
these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that?  =
Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. =20

    OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT.  OK, not even =
close, but I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking =
in the back of my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert =
Kirk, it has brakes!  Drives great around the yard.  A few new switches =
and I can at least drive it.

    In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me =
with nagging new and continuing problems.  Clutch is leaking down =
internally, so I've got an M/C problem.  Not really major, except I'm =
not looking forward to pulling the damn thing. =20

    In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - =
again...  I've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year.  It really =
runs well. Fast enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I =
have to address that head!  And since I'm thinking of something akin to =
a Burgess econotune head, I think I'll have to go through the bottom end =
again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in '92 but oil pressure =
doesn't go to 75# any more...  There's a bit of magic going on in this =
old cracked head.  ' Have no idea what it is, but don't want to lose it =
in the replacement.  ' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.

    At any rate, welcome again!  So glad to see new folks respond so =
quickly.  ' Look forward to your presence on the list.

    Cheers,
    Allen

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    From: "slilves--- via Thelist" mailto:[email-masked]
    To: "Steve" mailto:[email-masked], "Prentiss Kirk" =
mailto:[email-masked]
    Cc: "Allen" mailto:[email-masked], "Magnette List" =
mailto:[email-masked]
    Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM
    Subject: Re: [Thelist] New Member

    Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing.
    In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker =
MGB=E2=80=99s in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =
=E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=9D
    My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the process =
of getting it back together after way too many years of =
=E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D
    I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at =
Huffaker Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 =
BGT that needs a complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's =
in line after the TF, and I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 =
Mini Countryman. I just hope I live long enough to get them all done and =
don't run out of $$$.
    Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D
    Cheers,
    Racer Steve
    PS:  I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more =
recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just =
sold. Probably won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder =
problems (too dam old!)

    Sent from Windows Mail

    From: Prentiss Kirk via Thelist
    Sent: =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =
=E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 =
=E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM
    To: Steve
    Cc: Allen, Magnette List

    What about Steve Martin?  Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too?  8->=20

      On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

      Steve Carroll
      Steve Wagoner
      Steve Kaufman
      Steve Travato
      Steve Hanegan
      Steve Kirby
      Steve Christiansen
      Steve Lilves

      and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at a =
roster

      Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out =
Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve =
T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), =
let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!

      Steve H.

      On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

        Welcome Steve Lilves!  ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal =
club, really) as much as we do.  It's one-stop shopping for =
entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great friendships.

        Cheers,
        Allen
        ********************************************************=20

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        Cc: "Allen" <[email-masked]>, "Magnette List" =
<[email-masked]>

        We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA =
another CA member
        Dee

        Sent from my iPad

        On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

          Hi guys,

          I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry =
band. Steve has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare =
pieces. I'm pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd =
be willing to sell, for example.

          Mike Jacobsen

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<DIV>First week in January I will turn 80.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Gene deRuelle</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Allen Bachelder</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:50 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Chris Kotting</A> ; <A=20
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> =
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] age</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
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"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV>OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of =
76?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Curious in Michigan,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Allen </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV>Sent from my iPhone=20
<DIV>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</DIV>
<DIV>Allen Bachelder, prop. </DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
  <DIV>
  <DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>Jim -<BR><BR>If you're the teenager at =
64, what am=20
  I at 56?<BR><BR>Chris K.<BR><BR>On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schulte =
via=20
  Thelist wrote:<BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:[email-masked]=20
type=3D"cite">
    <DIV>Racer Steve,</DIV>
    <DIV>Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager =
in this=20
    wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being =
restored but=20
    is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my =
wife=20
    claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel =
blue and=20
    gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old =
Mother.</DIV>
    <DIV>Your collection is impressive.&nbsp; Good luck and Safety =
Fast!</DIV>
    <DIV>Jim in Pennsylvania </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV id=3Dcomposer_signature>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 85%; COLOR: #575757">Sent via the Samsung =
GALAXY S=C2=AE4=20
    Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&amp;T 4G LTE =
smartphone</DIV></DIV><BR><BR>-------- Original=20
    message --------<BR>From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <A=20
    class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A> =
<BR>Date:=20
    11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) <BR>To: <A =
class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> =
<BR>Cc: Allen=20
    <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A>, =
Magnette=20
    List <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A> =
<BR>Subject:=20
    Re: [Thelist] New Member <BR><BR>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #000000">
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?)&nbsp; =
-</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Your racing pedigree deserves =
respect, and=20
    you have mine!&nbsp; ' Never raced.&nbsp; ' Did a bit of =
autocrossing many=20
    years ago - only to discover that under pressure of competition, I =
lose all=20
    respect for the machine, and just run it balls to the wall. ' =
Surprised I=20
    didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did learn that I have the =
wrong=20
    temperament for competitive driving. </DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">We have some inventory in common: =
I'm putting=20
    my '65 B together.&nbsp; It was a basketcase I bought in '89, and it =
has yet=20
    to see the road. A few other projects intervened, including my '57 =
ZBV=20
    Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but did have a TD for several =
years.&nbsp;=20
    Like you, age has been an increasing factor. I still can get up and =
down=20
    from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working on the MGs, but =
with=20
    age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but wonder how long =
this will=20
    last.&nbsp; I'm having to adjust my attitude: if I can do it today, =
that's=20
    all I need to know.&nbsp; Once I finish the '65, the '60 A 1600 and =
the '69=20
    C/GT are next.&nbsp; I'll be darned if my long range plans should be =
limited=20
    by my long range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've =
known=20
    guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 years =
short=20
    of that?&nbsp; Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll =
agree.&nbsp;=20
    </DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do =
have a '69=20
    C/GT.&nbsp; OK, not even close, but I got the year right, and I love =
the=20
    car. It's been lurking in the back of my shop for seven years, but =
recently,=20
    courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has brakes!&nbsp; Drives great around =
the=20
    yard.&nbsp; A few new switches and I can at least drive it.</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">In the meantime, my =
recently-restored=20
    Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging new and continuing =
problems.&nbsp;=20
    Clutch is leaking down internally, so I've got an M/C problem.&nbsp; =
Not=20
    really major, except I'm not looking forward to pulling the damn=20
    thing.&nbsp; </DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">In the meantime, my daily-driver =
'73 GT has a=20
    cracked head - again...&nbsp; I've run it on the cracked head for =
perhaps a=20
    year.&nbsp; It really runs well. Fast enough to put the proverbial =
smile on=20
    my face, but I have to address that head!&nbsp; And since I'm =
thinking of=20
    something akin to a Burgess econotune head, I think I'll have to go =
through=20
    the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole thing back in '92 but =
oil=20
    pressure doesn't go to 75# any more...&nbsp; There's a bit of magic =
going on=20
    in this old cracked head.&nbsp; ' Have no idea what it is, but don't =
want to=20
    lose it in the replacement.&nbsp; ' Might pick your brain a bit if =
you don't=20
    mind.</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">At any rate, welcome again!&nbsp; =
So glad to=20
    see new folks respond so quickly.&nbsp; ' Look forward to your =
presence on=20
    the list.</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Cheers,</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Allen</DIV>
    <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">
    <P class=3Dp1 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"=20
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    <P class=3Dp1 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"=20
    data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>Allen =
&amp; Florrie=20
    Bachelder&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
=3Diii=3D&lt;</I></B></P>
    <P class=3Dp1 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"=20
    data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>Spring =
Creek Home=20
    for Wayward MGs</I></B></P>
    <P class=3Dp1 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"=20
    data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>'57 ZB, =
'60 A1600,=20
    '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</I></B></P>
    <P class=3Dp1 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"=20
    data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>North =
Street, MI=20
    48049, USA</I></B></P>
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class=3Ds1><A=20
    href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs"=20
    data-mce-href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs"=20
    =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true"><B><I>http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldr=
s</I></B></A></SPAN></P>
    <P class=3Dp1 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"=20
    data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            =
0px;"><B><I>********************************************************</I><=
/B></P></DIV>
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
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12pt;"><B>From:=20
    </B>"slilves--- via Thelist" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A><BR><B>To: =

    </B>"Steve" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A>, =
"Prentiss=20
    Kirk" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A><=
BR><B>Cc:=20
    </B>"Allen" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A>, =
"Magnette=20
    List" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A><BR><B>Sent=
:=20
    </B>Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: =
[Thelist]=20
    New Member<BR>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'Segoe =
UI',&#13;&#10;            'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft =
JhengHei UI',&#13;&#10;            'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'"=20
    dir=3Dltr=20
    data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI',&#13;&#10;      =
      'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI',&#13;&#10; =
           'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'; font-size: 12pt;">
    <DIV>Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good =
thing.</DIV>
    <DIV>In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker =
MGB=E2=80=99s in the=20
    Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer =
Steve?=E2=80=9D</DIV>
    <DIV>My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the =
process of=20
    getting it back together after way too many years of =
=E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D</DIV>
    <DIV>I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at =
Huffaker=20
    Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT =
that needs a=20
    complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line =
after the TF, and=20
    I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just =
hope I live long enough=20
    to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.</DIV>
    <DIV>Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =
=E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D</DIV>
    <DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
    <DIV>Racer Steve</DIV>
    <DIV>PS:&nbsp; I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, =
and more=20
    recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just =
sold. Probably=20
    won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too =
dam old!)</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Sent from Windows Mail</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"BORDER-TOP: rgb(229,229,229) 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: =
5px"=20
    data-mce-style=3D"padding-top: 5px;&#13;&#10;              =
border-top-color: #e5e5e5; border-top-width: 1px;&#13;&#10;              =
border-top-style: solid;">
    <DIV><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, 'Segoe UI', =
meiryo,&#13;&#10;                  'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft =
JhengHei UI', 'Malgun&#13;&#10;                  gothic', sans-serif; =
LETTER-SPACING: 0.02em; LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt"=20
    data-mce-style=3D"line-height:&#13;&#10;                  15pt; =
letter-spacing: 0.02em; font-family: Calibri,&#13;&#10;                  =
'Segoe UI', Meiryo, 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft&#13;&#10;           =
       JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', sans-serif; font-size:&#13;&#10;   =
               12pt;"=20
    face=3D" 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo',&#13;&#10;                  =
'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun&#13;&#10;         =
         Gothic', 'sans-serif'"><B>From:</B>&nbsp;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank=20
    data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Prentiss=20
    Kirk via Thelist</A><BR><B>Sent:</B> =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =
=E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015=20
    =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =
=E2=80=8EPM<BR><B>To:</B>&nbsp;<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
    target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
    moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Steve</A><BR><B>Cc:</B>&nbsp;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank=20
    data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Allen</A>,=20
    <A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank=20
    data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Magnette=20
    List</A></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>What about Steve Martin?&nbsp; Isn=E2=80=99t he a member =
too?&nbsp; 8-&gt;=20
    <DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN-TOP: 0px"=20
    data-mce-style=3D"margin-top: 0px;&#13;&#10;                    =
margin-bottom: 0px;">
      <DIV>On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist &lt;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank=20
      data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
      moz-do-not-send=3D"true">[email-masked]</A>&gt; wrote:</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr>
      <DIV dir=3Dltr>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri"=20
      data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri;&#13;&#10;                  =
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      <DIV>Steve Carroll</DIV>
      <DIV>Steve Wagoner</DIV>
      <DIV>Steve Kaufman</DIV>
      <DIV>Steve Travato</DIV>
      <DIV>Steve Hanegan</DIV>
      <DIV>Steve Kirby</DIV>
      <DIV>Steve Christiansen</DIV>
      <DIV>Steve Lilves</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking =
at a roster</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
calibri; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline"=20
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      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: =
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      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)"=20
      data-mce-style=3D"background:&#13;&#10;                            =
      #f5f5f5;">
      <DIV><B>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D_blank=20
      data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Steve=20
      Hanegan via Thelist</A></DIV>
      <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM</DIV>
      <DIV><B>To:</B> <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A></DIV>
      <DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D_blank=20
      data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
      moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Allen</A> ; <A =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
      target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
      moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Magnette List</A></DIV>
      <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Thelist] New Member</DIV></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
calibri; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline"=20
      data-mce-style=3D"font-family:&#13;&#10;                           =
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      <DIV>Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure =
out=20
      Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a =
Steve=20
      T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda =
guy),=20
      let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!<BR>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>Steve H.</DIV>
      <DIV><BR>On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist =
&lt;<A=20
      class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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        <DIV>Welcome Steve Lilves!&nbsp; ' Hope you enjoy this list =
(informal=20
        club, really) as much as we do.&nbsp; It's one-stop shopping for =

        entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great=20
        friendships.<BR></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
        <DIV>Allen</DIV>
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        &amp; Florrie Bachelder&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
        =3Diii=3D&lt;<BR>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</I></B></DIV>
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From: Phil Marcel <[email-masked]>
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Alan,

You can drop me from your list. My Magnette burned in a shop fire early this=
 year.  Replaced it with a Twin Cam!

Phil Marcell

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>> On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>>=20
>> Jim -
>>=20
>>> Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this w=
ily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored but is=
 on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife clai=
ms is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and gets t=
he best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother.
>>> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE sma=
rtphone
>>> Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine!  ' Never raced=
.  ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under p=
ressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, and just run it b=
alls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I d=
id learn that I have the wrong temperament for competitive driving.
>>>=20
>>> We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together.  It was=
 a basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other p=
rojects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but=
 did have a TD for several years.  Like you, age has been an increasing fact=
or. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while=
 working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help=
 but wonder how long this will last.  I'm having to adjust my attitude: if I=
 can do it today, that's all I need to know.  Once I finish the '65, the '60=
 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.  I'll be darned if my long range plans sh=
ould be limited by my long range prognosis (and even that looks pretty good)=
. I've known guys restoring these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 y=
ears short of that?  Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. =
=20
>>>=20
>>> In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again...  I=
've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year.  It really runs well. Fas=
t enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that h=
ead!  And since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, I=
 think I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the whole=
 thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more...  There's a=
 bit of magic going on in this old cracked head.  ' Have no idea what it is,=
 but don't want to lose it in the replacement.  ' Might pick your brain a bi=
t if you don't mind.
>>>=20
>>> At any rate, welcome again!  So glad to see new folks respond so quickly=
.  ' Look forward to your presence on the list.
>>> To: "Steve" <[email-masked]>, "Prentiss Kirk" <[email-masked]=
>
>>> In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s=
 in the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=
=9D
>>> PS:  I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more recentl=
y a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just sold. Probably w=
on=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too dam old!)
>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>>> Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out Steve-w=
hat would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a Steve T, a #1Ste=
ve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), let's see... W=
ho am I leaving out... a bunch of us!
>>>=20
>>> Steve H.
>>>=20
>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Welcome Steve Lilves!  ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal club, really=
) as much as we do.  It's one-stop shopping for entertainment, information, a=
dvice, parts, and great friendships.
ember
>>> Dee
>>> =20
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>=20
>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>>> =20
>>> Hi guys,
>>>=20
>>> I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Stev=
e has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm pr=
etty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to sell,=
 for example.
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re"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">You can drop me from your list.=
 My Magnette burned in a shop fire early this year. &nbsp;Replaced it with a=
 Twin Cam!</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMai=
lSignature">Phil Marcell<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Nov 11, 2=
015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
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 76?</div><div><br></div><div>Curious in Michigan,</div><div><br></div><div>=
Allen&nbsp;</div><div><br><br><div>Sent from my iPhone<div>Spring Creek Home=
 for Wayward MGs</div><div>Allen Bachelder, prop.&nbsp;</div></div></div><di=
v><br>On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist &lt;<a href=3D"=
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I'm 52....no Magnette yet but I am looking!

Best regards,
Dan
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 2:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age

  Curious in Michigan,

  Allen=20

  Sent from my iPhone

    Jim -

    Chris K.

      Racer Steve,

      Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G =
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      -------- Original message --------
      From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <[email-masked]>=20
      Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)=20
      To: [email-masked]=20
      Cc: Allen <[email-masked]>, Magnette List <[email-masked]> =

      We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together.  =
It was a basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A =
few other projects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have =
never had a TF but did have a TD for several years.  Like you, age has =
been an increasing factor. I still can get up and down from my creeper a =
dozen times per hour while working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up =
in a couple weeks, can't help but wonder how long this will last.  I'm =
having to adjust my attitude: if I can do it today, that's all I need to =
know.  Once I finish the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.  =
I'll be darned if my long range plans should be limited by my long range =
prognosis (and even that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring =
these cars well into their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that?  =
Nevertheless, old age sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. =20

      Cheers,
      Allen

      To: "Steve" <[email-masked]>, "Prentiss Kirk" =
<[email-masked]>

      My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the =
process of getting it back together after way too many years of =

      Sent from Windows Mail

        On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

        Steve Carroll
        Steve Wagoner
        Steve Kaufman
        Steve Travato
        Steve Hanegan
        Steve Kirby
        Steve Christiansen
        Steve Lilves

        Steve H.

          Cheers,
          Allen

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          Sent from my iPad

            Hi guys,

            I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our =
merry band. Steve has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of =
spare pieces. I'm pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that =
he'd be willing to sell, for example.

            Mike Jacobsen

      =20

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title=[email-masked]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Chris Kotting</A> ; <A=20
  title=[email-masked]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 11, =
2015 2:50=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] =
age</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my =
age of=20
  76?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Curious in Michigan,</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Allen&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV>Sent from my iPhone
  <DIV>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</DIV>
  <DIV>Allen Bachelder, prop.&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR>On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist &lt;<A =

  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
    <DIV>
    <DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>Jim -<BR><BR>If you're the teenager at =
64, what=20
    am I at 56?<BR><BR>Chris K.<BR><BR>On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James =
Schulte via=20
    Thelist wrote:<BR></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:[email-masked] =

    type=3D"cite">
      <DIV>Racer Steve,</DIV>
      <DIV>Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the =
teenager in=20
      this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being =

      restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage =
body shell=20
      that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a =
58 ZB=20
      steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my =
92 year=20
      old Mother.</DIV>
      <DIV>Your collection is impressive. &nbsp;Good luck and Safety =
Fast!</DIV>
      <DIV>Jim in Pennsylvania&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dcomposer_signature>
      <DIV style=3D"COLOR: #575757; FONT-SIZE: 85%">Sent via the Samsung =
GALAXY=20
      S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&amp;T 4G LTE =
smartphone</DIV></DIV><BR><BR>--------=20
      Original message --------<BR>From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <A=20
      class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</A> =
<BR>Date:=20
      11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) <BR>To: <A =
class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> =
<BR>Cc:=20
      Allen <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</A>,=20
      Magnette List <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</A> =
<BR>Subject:=20
      Re: [Thelist] New Member <BR><BR>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?) =
&nbsp;-</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body"><BR></DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Your racing pedigree deserves =
respect, and=20
      you have mine! &nbsp;' Never raced. &nbsp;' Did a bit of =
autocrossing many=20
      years ago - only to discover that under pressure of competition, I =
lose=20
      all respect for the machine, and just run it balls to the wall. '=20
      Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did learn =
that I=20
      have the wrong temperament for competitive driving. </DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body"><BR></DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">We have some inventory in common: =
I'm=20
      putting my '65 B together. &nbsp;It was a basketcase I bought in =
'89, and=20
      it has yet to see the road. A few other projects intervened, =
including my=20
      '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but did have a TD for =
several=20
      years. &nbsp;Like you, age has been an increasing factor. I still =
can get=20
      up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working =
on the=20
      MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but =
wonder=20
      how long this will last. &nbsp;I'm having to adjust my attitude: =
if I can=20
      do it today, that's all I need to know. &nbsp;Once I finish the =
'65, the=20
      '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next. &nbsp;I'll be darned if my =
long=20
      range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even =
that=20
      looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring these cars well into =
their=20
      90s - why give up 15 years short of that? &nbsp;Nevertheless, old =
age=20
      sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree. &nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body"><BR></DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do =
have a=20
      '69 C/GT. &nbsp;OK, not even close, but I got the year right, and =
I love=20
      the car. It's been lurking in the back of my shop for seven years, =
but=20
      recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has brakes! &nbsp;Drives =
great=20
      around the yard. &nbsp;A few new switches and I can at least drive =

      it.</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body"><BR></DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">In the meantime, my =
recently-restored=20
      Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging new and continuing =
problems.=20
      &nbsp;Clutch is leaking down internally, so I've got an M/C =
problem.=20
      &nbsp;Not really major, except I'm not looking forward to pulling =
the damn=20
      thing. &nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body"><BR></DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">In the meantime, my daily-driver =
'73 GT has=20
      a cracked head - again... &nbsp;I've run it on the cracked head =
for=20
      perhaps a year. &nbsp;It really runs well. Fast enough to put the=20
      proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that head! =
&nbsp;And=20
      since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, =
I think=20
      I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the =
whole=20
      thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more...=20
      &nbsp;There's a bit of magic going on in this old cracked head. =
&nbsp;'=20
      Have no idea what it is, but don't want to lose it in the =
replacement.=20
      &nbsp;' Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body"><BR></DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">At any rate, welcome again! =
&nbsp;So glad=20
      to see new folks respond so quickly. &nbsp;' Look forward to your =
presence=20
      on the list.</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body"><BR></DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Cheers,</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Allen</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">
      <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px" class=3Dp1=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            =
0px;"><B><I>********************************************************</I><=
/B></P>
      <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px" class=3Dp1=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>Allen =
&amp;=20
      Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =3Diii=3D&lt;</I></B></P>
      <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px" class=3Dp1=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>Spring =
Creek Home=20
      for Wayward MGs</I></B></P>
      <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px" class=3Dp1=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>'57 ZB, =
'60=20
      A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</I></B></P>
      <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px" class=3Dp1=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>North =
Street, MI=20
      48049, USA</I></B></P>
      <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px" class=3Dp2=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><SPAN =
class=3Ds1><A=20
      href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs"=20
      data-mce-href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs"=20
      =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true"><B><I>http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldr=
s</I></B></A></SPAN></P>
      <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px" class=3Dp1=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            =
0px;"><B><I>********************************************************</I><=
/B></P></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <HR id=3Dzwchr>

      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: =
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font-family:&#13;&#10;          Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: =
12pt;"><B>From:=20
      </B>"slilves--- via Thelist" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</A><BR><B>To:=
=20
      </B>"Steve" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</A>, =
"Prentiss=20
      Kirk" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</A>=
<BR><B>Cc:=20
      </B>"Allen" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</A>,=20
      "Magnette List" <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</A><BR><B>Sen=
t:=20
      </B>Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re:=20
      [Thelist] New Member<BR>
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI',
                  'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei =
UI',
                  'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 12pt" =
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      data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI',&#13;&#10;    =
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UI',&#13;&#10;            'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'; font-size: =
12pt;">
      <DIV>Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good =
thing.</DIV>
      <DIV>In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker =
MGB=E2=80=99s in=20
      the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about&nbsp;=E2=80=9CRacer =
Steve?=E2=80=9D</DIV>
      <DIV>My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the =
process=20
      of getting it back together after way too many years =
of&nbsp;=E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=9D</DIV>
      <DIV>I also have a&nbsp;=E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while =
working at Huffaker=20
      Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a&nbsp;=E2=80=9869 =
BGT that needs a=20
      complete restoration, a&nbsp;=E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in =
line after the TF,=20
      and I=E2=80=99m almost done with my&nbsp;=E2=80=9C62 Mini =
Countryman. I just hope I live=20
      long enough to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.</DIV>
      <DIV>Looking forward to meeting everyone on =
the&nbsp;=E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=9D</DIV>
      <DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
      <DIV>Racer Steve</DIV>
      <DIV>PS:&nbsp; I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, =
and more=20
      recently a&nbsp;=E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that =
I just sold.=20
      Probably won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder =
problems (too dam=20
      old!)</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Sent from Windows Mail</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"BORDER-TOP: rgb(229,229,229) 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: =
5px"=20
      data-mce-style=3D"padding-top: 5px;&#13;&#10;              =
border-top-color: #e5e5e5; border-top-width: 1px;&#13;&#10;              =
border-top-style: solid;">
      <DIV><SPAN=20
      style=3D"LINE-HEIGHT: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, 'Segoe UI', =
Meiryo,
                        'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', =
'Malgun
                        Gothic', sans-serif; LETTER-SPACING: 0.02em; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=20
      data-mce-style=3D"line-height:&#13;&#10;                  15pt; =
letter-spacing: 0.02em; font-family: Calibri,&#13;&#10;                  =
'Segoe UI', Meiryo, 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft&#13;&#10;           =
       JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', sans-serif; font-size:&#13;&#10;   =
               12pt;"=20
      face=3D" 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo',&#13;&#10;                =
  'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun&#13;&#10;       =
           Gothic', 'sans-serif'"><B>From:</B>&nbsp;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank=20
      data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Prentiss=20
      Kirk via =
Thelist</A><BR><B>Sent:</B>&nbsp;=E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =
=E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E,=20
      =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =
=E2=80=8EPM<BR><B>To:</B>&nbsp;<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
      target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
      moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Steve</A><BR><B>Cc:</B>&nbsp;<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank=20
      data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
      moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Allen</A>, <A =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
      target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
      moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Magnette List</A></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>What about Steve Martin? &nbsp;Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too? =
&nbsp;8-&gt;=20
      <DIV><BR>
      <DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px"=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin-top: 0px;&#13;&#10;                    =
margin-bottom: 0px;">
        <DIV>On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist &lt;<A=20
        href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank=20
        data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
        moz-do-not-send=3D"true">[email-masked]</A>&gt; =
wrote:</DIV><BR=20
        class=3DApple-interchange-newline>
        <DIV>
        <DIV dir=3Dltr>
        <DIV dir=3Dltr>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=20
        data-mce-style=3D"font-family: Calibri;&#13;&#10;                =
            font-size: 12pt;">
        <DIV>Steve Carroll</DIV>
        <DIV>Steve Wagoner</DIV>
        <DIV>Steve Kaufman</DIV>
        <DIV>Steve Travato</DIV>
        <DIV>Steve Hanegan</DIV>
        <DIV>Steve Kirby</DIV>
        <DIV>Steve Christiansen</DIV>
        <DIV>Steve Lilves</DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV>and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking =
at a=20
        roster</DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none"=20
        data-mce-style=3D"font-family:&#13;&#10;                         =
     Calibri; font-size: small; font-style:&#13;&#10;                    =
          normal; font-weight: normal;&#13;&#10;                         =
     text-decoration: none; display: inline;">
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma; font-size-adjust: none; =
font-stretch: normal"=20
        data-mce-style=3D"font:&#13;&#10;                                =
10pt/normal tahoma; font-size-adjust:&#13;&#10;                          =
      none; font-stretch: normal;">
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: rgb(245,245,245)"=20
        data-mce-style=3D"background:&#13;&#10;                          =
        #f5f5f5;">
        <DIV><B>From:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D_blank=20
        data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Steve=20
        Hanegan via Thelist</A></DIV>
        <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM</DIV>
        <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D_blank=20
        data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
        moz-do-not-send=3D"true"></A><A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated =

        =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A></DIV>
        <DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D_blank=20
        data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
        moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Allen</A> ; <A =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
        target=3D_blank data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=20
        moz-do-not-send=3D"true">Magnette List</A></DIV>
        <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Thelist] New Member</DIV></DIV></DIV>
        <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none"=20
        data-mce-style=3D"font-family:&#13;&#10;                         =
     Calibri; font-size: small; font-style:&#13;&#10;                    =
          normal; font-weight: normal;&#13;&#10;                         =
     text-decoration: none; display: inline;">
        <DIV>Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is =
figure out=20
        Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), =
a Steve=20
        T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 =
kinda guy),=20
        let's see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!<BR>
        <DIV><BR></DIV>Steve H.</DIV>
        <DIV><BR>On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist =
&lt;<A=20
        href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D_blank=20
        data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
moz-do-not-send=3D"true"></A><A=20
        class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated=20
        href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt; =
wrote:<BR>
        <DIV><BR></DIV></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px"=20
        data-mce-style=3D"margin-top: 0px;&#13;&#10;                     =
           margin-bottom: 0px;">
          <DIV>
          <DIV style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"=20
          data-mce-style=3D"font-family: arial;&#13;&#10;                =
                    font-size: 12pt;">
          <DIV>Welcome Steve Lilves!&nbsp; ' Hope you enjoy this list =
(informal=20
          club, really) as much as we do.&nbsp; It's one-stop shopping =
for=20
          entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great=20
          friendships.<BR></DIV>
          <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
          <DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
          <DIV>Allen</DIV>
          <DIV>
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                   break-word;">
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                             break-word;">
          <DIV=20
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                               break-word;">
          <DIV=20
          data-mce-style=3D"-ms-word-wrap:&#13;&#10;                     =
                                 =
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          &amp; Florrie Bachelder&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
          =3Diii=3D&lt;<BR>Spring Creek Home for Wayward =
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          </B>"Allen" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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          <DIV>We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , =
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          another CA member</DIV>
          <DIV>Dee<BR>
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            id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1447180002612_30851><BR=20
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Lilves in=20
            Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Steve has a long-term ZA =
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for=20
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            id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1447180002612_30857>Mike Jacobsen<BR=20
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you=E2=80=99ll be sorry.......!

Gene deRuelle

From: Phil Marcel=20
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:55 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20
Cc: Chris Kotting=20
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] age

Alan,

You can drop me from your list. My Magnette burned in a shop fire early =
this year.  Replaced it with a Twin Cam!

Phil Marcell

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

  Curious in Michigan,

  Allen=20

  Sent from my iPhone=20

    Jim -

    Chris K.

      Racer Steve,

      -------- Original message --------
      From: bachldrs--- via Thelist mailto:[email-masked]=20
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      Cheers,
      Allen

      Sent from Windows Mail

        Steve Carroll
        Steve Wagoner
        Steve Kaufman
        Steve Travato
        Steve Hanegan
        Steve Kirby
        Steve Christiansen
        Steve Lilves

        Steve H.

          Cheers,
          Allen

          Sent from my iPad

            Hi guys,

            Mike Jacobsen

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<DIV>you=E2=80=99ll be sorry.......!</DIV>
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<DIV>Gene deRuelle</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:55 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
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America</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Chris Kotting</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] age</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Alan,</DIV>
<DIV id=3DAppleMailSignature>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3DAppleMailSignature>You can drop me from your list. My Magnette =
burned in=20
a shop fire early this year.&nbsp; Replaced it with a Twin Cam!</DIV>
<DIV id=3DAppleMailSignature>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3DAppleMailSignature>Phil Marcell<BR><BR>Sent from my iPad</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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  <DIV>OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of =
76?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Curious in Michigan,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Allen </DIV>
  <DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV>Sent from my iPhone=20
  <DIV>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</DIV>
  <DIV>Allen Bachelder, prop. </DIV></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR>On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist &lt;<A =

    type=3D"cite">
      <DIV>Racer Steve,</DIV>

      restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage =
body shell=20
      that my wife claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a =
58 ZB=20
      steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my =
92 year=20
      old Mother.</DIV>
      <DIV>Your collection is impressive.&nbsp; Good luck and Safety =
Fast!</DIV>
      <DIV>Jim in Pennsylvania </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dcomposer_signature>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 85%; COLOR: #575757">Sent via the Samsung =
GALAXY=20
      S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&amp;T 4G LTE =
smartphone</DIV></DIV><BR><BR>--------=20
      Original message --------<BR>From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <A=20
      class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A> =
<BR>Date:=20
      11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) <BR>To: <A =
class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> =
<BR>Cc:=20
      Allen <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A>, =
Magnette=20
      List <A class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked]</A> =
<BR>Subject:=20
      Re: [Thelist] New Member <BR><BR>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: =
#000000">
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Hey Racer Steve ("RS"?)&nbsp; =
-</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Your racing pedigree deserves =
respect, and=20
      you have mine!&nbsp; ' Never raced.&nbsp; ' Did a bit of =
autocrossing many=20
      years ago - only to discover that under pressure of competition, I =
lose=20
      all respect for the machine, and just run it balls to the wall. '=20
      Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT; but I did learn =
that I=20
      have the wrong temperament for competitive driving. </DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">We have some inventory in common: =
I'm=20
      putting my '65 B together.&nbsp; It was a basketcase I bought in =
'89, and=20
      it has yet to see the road. A few other projects intervened, =
including my=20
      '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF but did have a TD for =
several=20
      years.&nbsp; Like you, age has been an increasing factor. I still =
can get=20
      up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working =
on the=20
      MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can't help but =
wonder=20
      how long this will last.&nbsp; I'm having to adjust my attitude: =
if I can=20
      do it today, that's all I need to know.&nbsp; Once I finish the =
'65, the=20
      '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.&nbsp; I'll be darned if my =
long=20
      range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even =
that=20
      looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring these cars well into =
their=20
      90s - why give up 15 years short of that?&nbsp; Nevertheless, old =
age=20
      sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree.&nbsp; </DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do =
have a=20
      '69 C/GT.&nbsp; OK, not even close, but I got the year right, and =
I love=20
      the car. It's been lurking in the back of my shop for seven years, =
but=20
      recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has brakes!&nbsp; Drives =
great=20
      around the yard.&nbsp; A few new switches and I can at least drive =

      it.</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">In the meantime, my =
recently-restored=20
      Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging new and continuing=20
      problems.&nbsp; Clutch is leaking down internally, so I've got an =
M/C=20
      problem.&nbsp; Not really major, except I'm not looking forward to =
pulling=20
      the damn thing.&nbsp; </DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">In the meantime, my daily-driver =
'73 GT has=20
      a cracked head - again...&nbsp; I've run it on the cracked head =
for=20
      perhaps a year.&nbsp; It really runs well. Fast enough to put the=20
      proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that =
head!&nbsp; And=20
      since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head, =
I think=20
      I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt the =
whole=20
      thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any =
more...&nbsp;=20
      There's a bit of magic going on in this old cracked head.&nbsp; ' =
Have no=20
      idea what it is, but don't want to lose it in the =
replacement.&nbsp; '=20
      Might pick your brain a bit if you don't mind.</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">At any rate, welcome again!&nbsp; =
So glad=20
      to see new folks respond so quickly.&nbsp; ' Look forward to your =
presence=20
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      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Cheers,</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">Allen</DIV>
      <DIV aria-label=3D"Compose body">
      <P class=3Dp1 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            =
0px;"><B><I>********************************************************</I><=
/B></P>
      <P class=3Dp1 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>Allen =
&amp;=20
      Florrie Bachelder&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
=3Diii=3D&lt;</I></B></P>
      <P class=3Dp1 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>Spring =
Creek Home=20
      for Wayward MGs</I></B></P>
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      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>'57 ZB, =
'60=20
      A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</I></B></P>
      <P class=3Dp1 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"=20
      data-mce-style=3D"margin:&#13;&#10;            0px;"><B><I>North =
Street, MI=20
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just hope I live long=20
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I hate to blow your curve and I know I don't post much but I will be 42 in
January. I got my first MG at the age of 30 and I let my last modern car go
about five years ago. My wife drives a newer car but I drive my '72 GT in
nice weather and my my '63 International Scout when it rains.

jimTN

Sent from my Nexus pad by ACER

James R. Hickman, Jr.
Mill Corner Place
248 Bruce Street, Suite 5
Sevierville, TN 37862
On Nov 12, 2015 11:52 AM, "Gene deRuelle" <[email-masked]> wrote:

> *From:* Phil Marcel <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:55 PM
> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Chris Kotting <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] age
>
> Alan,
>
> You can drop me from your list. My Magnette burned in a shop fire early
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
> Allen Bachelder, prop.
> Welcome to the real MG's have 4 doors group. I am the teenager in this
> wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being restored bu=
t
> is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body shell that my wife
> claims is hers and "Jeanne" our family car. She is a 58 ZB steel blue and
> gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 year old Mother.
> Jim in Pennsylvania
tphone
> From: bachldrs--- via Thelist mailto:[email-masked] <[email-masked]=
>
> Date: 11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: [email-masked]
> Cc: Allen mailto:[email-masked] <[email-masked]>, Magnette List
> mailto:[email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and you have mine!  ' Never raced.
> ' Did a bit of autocrossing many years ago - only to discover that under
> pressure of competition, I lose all respect for the machine, and just run
> it balls to the wall. ' Surprised I didn't destroy my poor old '73 B/GT;
> but I did learn that I have the wrong temperament for competitive driving=
.
>
> We have some inventory in common: I'm putting my '65 B together.  It was =
a
> basketcase I bought in '89, and it has yet to see the road. A few other
> projects intervened, including my '57 ZBV Magnette. ' Have never had a TF
> but did have a TD for several years.  Like you, age has been an increasin=
g
> factor. I still can get up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hou=
r
> while working on the MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks,
> can't help but wonder how long this will last.  I'm having to adjust my
> attitude: if I can do it today, that's all I need to know.  Once I finish
> the '65, the '60 A 1600 and the '69 C/GT are next.  I'll be darned if my
> long range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even
> that looks pretty good). I've known guys restoring these cars well into
> their 90s - why give up 15 years short of that?  Nevertheless, old age
> sucks, as I'm sure you'll agree.
>
> OK, so my B/GT is a '73, but I do have a '69 C/GT.  OK, not even close,
> but I got the year right, and I love the car. It's been lurking in the ba=
ck
> of my shop for seven years, but recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has
> brakes!  Drives great around the yard.  A few new switches and I can at
> least drive it.
>
> In the meantime, my recently-restored Magnette keeps presenting me with
> nagging new and continuing problems.  Clutch is leaking down internally, =
so
> I've got an M/C problem.  Not really major, except I'm not looking forwar=
d
> to pulling the damn thing.
>
> In the meantime, my daily-driver '73 GT has a cracked head - again...
> I've run it on the cracked head for perhaps a year.  It really runs well.
> Fast enough to put the proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address
> that head!  And since I'm thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotu=
ne
> head, I think I'll have to go through the bottom end again too. ' Rebuilt
> the whole thing back in '92 but oil pressure doesn't go to 75# any more..=
.
> There's a bit of magic going on in this old cracked head.  ' Have no idea
> what it is, but don't want to lose it in the replacement.  ' Might pick
> your brain a bit if you don't mind.
>
> At any rate, welcome again!  So glad to see new folks respond so quickly.
> **********************************************************
>
> *Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<*
>
> *Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs*
>
> *'57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT*
>
> *North Street, MI 48049, USA*
>
> *http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs*
> <http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs>
>
> **********************************************************
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"slilves--- via Thelist" mailto:[email-masked]
> <[email-masked]>
> *To: *"Steve" mailto:[email-masked] <[email-masked]>, "Prentiss
> Kirk" mailto:[email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> *Cc: *"Allen" mailto:[email-masked] <[email-masked]>, "Magnette
> List" mailto:[email-masked] <[email-masked]>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Thelist] New Member
>
> In the early 70's I raced one of the E Production Huffaker MGB=E2=80=99s =
in the
> Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=E2=80=9D
> My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We're in the process of
> getting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest.=E2=80=
=9D
> I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at Huffaker
> Engineering. It's overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT that nee=
ds a
> complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that's in line after the=
 TF, and
> I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just hope =
I live long enough
> to get them all done and don't run out of $$$.
> PS:  I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and more recently
> a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just sold. Probably=
 won=E2=80=99t
> race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too dam old!)
>
>
> Sent from Windows Mail
>
> *From:* Prentiss Kirk via Thelist <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=
=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015 =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E=
PM
> *To:* Steve <[email-masked]>
> *Cc:* Allen <[email-masked]>, Magnette List <[email-masked]>
>
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Steve Carroll
> Steve Wagoner
> Steve Kaufman
> Steve Travato
> Steve Hanegan
> Steve Kirby
> Steve Christiansen
> Steve Lilves
>
> *From:* Steve Hanegan via Thelist <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Cc:* Allen <[email-masked]> ; Magnette List <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Thelist] New Member
>
> Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure out
T,
> a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda guy), let'=
s
> see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!
>
> Steve H.
>
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>
> Welcome Steve Lilves!  ' Hope you enjoy this list (informal club, really)
> as much as we do.  It's one-stop shopping for entertainment, information,
> advice, parts, and great friendships.
>
> Cheers,
> Allen
> **********************************************************
>
> *Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<Spring Creek Home for Wayward =
MGs*
> *'57 ZB, '60 A1600, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT*
> *North Street, MI 48049, USA*
> *http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> <http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs>*
> **********************************************************
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Dee via Thelist" <[email-masked]>
> *To: *"Mike" <[email-masked]>
> *Cc: *"Allen" <[email-masked]>, "Magnette List" <[email-masked]>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Thelist] New Member
>
> We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA another CA
> member
> Dee
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> I'd like to add Steve Lilves in Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Steve
> has a long-term ZA project car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I'm
> pretty sure he has a spare set of all four doors that he'd be willing to
> sell, for example.
>
> Mike Jacobsen
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">I hate to blow your curve and I know I don&#39;t post much b=
ut I will be 42 in January. I got my first MG at the age of 30 and I let my=
 last modern car go about five years ago. My wife drives a newer car but I =
drive my &#39;72 GT in nice weather and my my &#39;63 International Scout w=
hen it rains. </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">jimTN<br></p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my Nexus pad by ACER</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">James R. Hickman, Jr.<br>
Mill Corner Place<br>
248 Bruce Street, Suite 5<br>
Sevierville, TN 37862</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Nov 12, 2015 11:52 AM, &quot;Gene deRuelle&qu=
ot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:=
<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;;COLOR:#000000">
<div>you=E2=80=99ll be sorry.......!</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Gene deRuelle</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma">
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:MG1948@ver=
izon.net" target=3D"_blank">Phil Marcel</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:55 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:zmagne=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">List for the Z Magnette Group - North=
=20
America</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a title=3D"[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:chris.k=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Chris Kotting</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] age</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div>Alan,</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>You can drop me from your list. My Magnette burned in=20
a shop fire early this year.=C2=A0 Replaced it with a Twin Cam!</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Phil Marcell<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div>
<div><br>On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Allen Bachelder &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=20
wrote:<br><br></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
  <div>
  <div>OK, so who on the list is under 56? How many are over my age of 76?<=
/div>
  <div>=C2=A0</div>
  <div>Curious in Michigan,</div>
  <div>=C2=A0</div>
  <div>Allen </div>
  <div><br><br>
  <div>Sent from my iPhone=20
  <div>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</div>
  <div>Allen Bachelder, prop. </div></div></div>
  <div><br>On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Chris Kotting via Thelist &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br><br></div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
    <div>
    <div>Jim -<br><br>If you&#39;re the teenager at 64, what=20
    am I at 56?<br><br>Chris K.<br><br>On 11/11/2015 10:39 AM, James Schult=
e via=20
    Thelist wrote:<br></div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div>Racer Steve,</div>
      <div>Welcome to the real MG&#39;s have 4 doors group. I am the teenag=
er in=20
      this wily old group at 64 lol. Have a 74.5 BGT that is still being=20
      restored but is on the road and about 95% done. A 70B Heritage body s=
hell=20
      that my wife claims is hers and &quot;Jeanne&quot; our family car. Sh=
e is a 58 ZB=20
      steel blue and gets the best awards at car shows. Named after my 92 y=
ear=20
      old Mother.</div>
      <div>Your collection is impressive.=C2=A0 Good luck and Safety Fast!<=
/div>
      <div>Jim in Pennsylvania </div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:85%;COLOR:#575757">Sent via the Samsung GALAX=
Y=20
      S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&amp;T 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><b=
r><br>--------=20
      Original message --------<br>From: bachldrs--- via Thelist <a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mailto:[email-masked]</a> <=
br>Date:=20
      11/11/2015 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) <br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:slilves@sbc=
global.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> <br>Cc:=20
      Allen <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mailto=
:[email-masked]</a>, Magnette=20
      List <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">mailto:Th=
[email-masked]</a> <br>Subject:=20
      Re: [Thelist] New Member <br><br>
      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:arial;COLOR:#000000">
      <div>Hey Racer Steve (&quot;RS&quot;?)=C2=A0 -</div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>Your racing pedigree deserves respect, and=20
      you have mine!=C2=A0 &#39; Never raced.=C2=A0 &#39; Did a bit of auto=
crossing many=20
      years ago - only to discover that under pressure of competition, I lo=
se=20
      all respect for the machine, and just run it balls to the wall. &#39;=
=20
      Surprised I didn&#39;t destroy my poor old &#39;73 B/GT; but I did le=
arn that I=20
      have the wrong temperament for competitive driving. </div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>We have some inventory in common: I&#39;m=20
      putting my &#39;65 B together.=C2=A0 It was a basketcase I bought in =
&#39;89, and=20
      it has yet to see the road. A few other projects intervened, includin=
g my=20
      &#39;57 ZBV Magnette. &#39; Have never had a TF but did have a TD for=
 several=20
      years.=C2=A0 Like you, age has been an increasing factor. I still can=
 get=20
      up and down from my creeper a dozen times per hour while working on t=
he=20
      MGs, but with age 76 coming up in a couple weeks, can&#39;t help but =
wonder=20
      how long this will last.=C2=A0 I&#39;m having to adjust my attitude: =
if I can=20
      do it today, that&#39;s all I need to know.=C2=A0 Once I finish the &=
#39;65, the=20
      &#39;60 A 1600 and the &#39;69 C/GT are next.=C2=A0 I&#39;ll be darne=
d if my long=20
      range plans should be limited by my long range prognosis (and even th=
at=20
      looks pretty good). I&#39;ve known guys restoring these cars well int=
o their=20
      90s - why give up 15 years short of that?=C2=A0 Nevertheless, old age=
=20
      sucks, as I&#39;m sure you&#39;ll agree.=C2=A0 </div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>OK, so my B/GT is a &#39;73, but I do have a=20
      &#39;69 C/GT.=C2=A0 OK, not even close, but I got the year right, and=
 I love=20
      the car. It&#39;s been lurking in the back of my shop for seven years=
, but=20
      recently, courtesy of Robert Kirk, it has brakes!=C2=A0 Drives great=
=20
      around the yard.=C2=A0 A few new switches and I can at least drive=20
      it.</div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>In the meantime, my recently-restored=20
      Magnette keeps presenting me with nagging new and continuing=20
      problems.=C2=A0 Clutch is leaking down internally, so I&#39;ve got an=
 M/C=20
      problem.=C2=A0 Not really major, except I&#39;m not looking forward t=
o pulling=20
      the damn thing.=C2=A0 </div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>In the meantime, my daily-driver &#39;73 GT has=20
      a cracked head - again...=C2=A0 I&#39;ve run it on the cracked head f=
or=20
      perhaps a year.=C2=A0 It really runs well. Fast enough to put the=20
      proverbial smile on my face, but I have to address that head!=C2=A0 A=
nd=20
      since I&#39;m thinking of something akin to a Burgess econotune head,=
 I think=20
      I&#39;ll have to go through the bottom end again too. &#39; Rebuilt t=
he whole=20
      thing back in &#39;92 but oil pressure doesn&#39;t go to 75# any more=
...=C2=A0=20
      There&#39;s a bit of magic going on in this old cracked head.=C2=A0 &=
#39; Have no=20
      idea what it is, but don&#39;t want to lose it in the replacement.=C2=
=A0 &#39;=20
      Might pick your brain a bit if you don&#39;t mind.</div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>At any rate, welcome again!=C2=A0 So glad=20
      to see new folks respond so quickly.=C2=A0 &#39; Look forward to your=
 presence=20
      on the list.</div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>Cheers,</div>
      <div>Allen</div>
      <div>
      <p style=3D"MARGIN:0px"><b><i>***************************************=
*****************</i></b></p>
      <p style=3D"MARGIN:0px"><b><i>Allen &amp;=20
      Florrie Bachelder=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
=3Diii=3D&lt;</i></b></p>
      <p style=3D"MARGIN:0px"><b><i>Spring Creek Home=20
      for Wayward MGs</i></b></p>
      <p style=3D"MARGIN:0px"><b><i>&#39;57 ZB, &#39;60=20
      A1600, &#39;65 B, &#39;69 C/GT, &#39;73 B/GT</i></b></p>
      <p style=3D"MARGIN:0px"><b><i>North Street, MI=20
      48049, USA</i></b></p>
      <p style=3D"MARGIN:0px"><span><a href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/=
member/bachldrs" target=3D"_blank"><b><i>http://www.mgexperience.net/member=
/bachldrs</i></b></a></span></p>
      <p style=3D"MARGIN:0px"><b><i>***************************************=
*****************</i></b></p></div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <hr>

      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:helveti=
ca,arial,sans-serif;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000;FONT-STYLE:normal"><b>Fro=
m:=20
      </b>&quot;slilves--- via Thelist&quot; <a href=3D"mailto:thelist@zmgn=
a.org" target=3D"_blank">mailto:[email-masked]</a><br><b>To:=20
      </b>&quot;Steve&quot; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"=
_blank">mailto:[email-masked]</a>, &quot;Prentiss=20
      Kirk&quot; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">mailto:[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:=20
      </b>&quot;Allen&quot; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">mailto:[email-masked]</a>,=20
      &quot;Magnette List&quot; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">mailto:[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sent:=20
      </b>Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:59:04 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re:=20
      [Thelist] New Member<br>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
     =20

      <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;,&#39;Segoe=
 UI&#39;,&#39;Meiryo&#39;,&#39;Microsoft YaHei UI&#39;,&#39;Microsoft Jheng=
Hei UI&#39;,&#39;Malgun Gothic&#39;,&#39;sans-serif&#39;" dir=3D"ltr">
      <div>Wow! Appears you guys are really MG fans, a really good thing.</=
div>
      <div>In the early 70&#39;s I raced one of the E Production Huffaker M=
GB=E2=80=99s in=20
      the Cal .Club region of the SCCA, so how about =E2=80=9CRacer Steve?=
=E2=80=9D</div>
      <div>My first car was a 1955 TF, which I still have. We&#39;re in the=
 process=20
      of getting it back together after way too many years of =E2=80=9Crest=
.=E2=80=9D</div>
      <div>I also have a =E2=80=9865 MGB that I built up while working at H=
uffaker=20
      Engineering. It&#39;s overdue for a freshening up, a =E2=80=9869 BGT =
that needs a=20
      complete restoration, a =E2=80=9C55 ZA Magnetite that&#39;s in line a=
fter the TF, and=20
      I=E2=80=99m almost done with my =E2=80=9C62 Mini Countryman. I just h=
ope I live long=20
      enough to get them all done and don&#39;t run out of $$$.</div>
      <div>Looking forward to meeting everyone on the =E2=80=9CList.=E2=80=
=9D</div>
      <div>Cheers,</div>
      <div>Racer Steve</div>
      <div>PS:=C2=A0 I also raced a Formula Atlantic car way back then, and=
 more=20
      recently a =E2=80=9C65 Mini Cooper S and a Turner MKIII that I just s=
old. Probably=20
      won=E2=80=99t race any more due to back and shoulder problems (too da=
m old!)</div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>Sent from Windows Mail</div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div></div>
      <div style=3D"BORDER-TOP:rgb(229,229,229) 1px solid;PADDING-TOP:5px">
      <div><span face=3D" &#39;Calibri&#39;, &#39;Segoe UI&#39;, &#39;Meiry=
o&#39;,
                  &#39;Microsoft YaHei UI&#39;, &#39;Microsoft JhengHei UI&=
#39;, &#39;Malgun
                  Gothic&#39;, &#39;sans-serif&#39;"><b>From:</b>=C2=A0<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Prentiss=20
      Kirk via Thelist</a><br><b>Sent:</b> =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=
=80=8ENovember=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E10=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2015=20
      =E2=80=8E7=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E15=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM<br><b>To:</b>=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Steve</a><br><b>C=
c:</b>=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Allen<=
/a>, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Magnette List</=
a></span></div></div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>What about Steve Martin?=C2=A0 Isn=E2=80=99t he a member too?=C2=
=A0 8-&gt;=20
      <div>
      <div>=C2=A0</div>
      <div>
      <blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN-TOP:0px">
        <div>On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Steve via Thelist &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
:</div>
        <div>=C2=A0</div>
        <div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri">
        <div>Steve Carroll</div>
        <div>Steve Wagoner</div>
        <div>Steve Kaufman</div>
        <div>Steve Travato</div>
        <div>Steve Hanegan</div>
        <div>Steve Kirby</div>
        <div>Steve Christiansen</div>
        <div>Steve Lilves</div>
        <div>=C2=A0</div>
        <div>and that=E2=80=99s off the top of my head . . . w/o looking at=
 a=20
        roster</div>
        <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:cali=
bri;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
        <div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma;font-size-adjust:none;font-stretch:n=
ormal">
        <div>=C2=A0</div>
        <div style=3D"BACKGROUND:rgb(245,245,245)">
        <div><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">Steve=20
        Hanegan via Thelist</a></div>
        <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:11 PM</div>
        <div><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a></div>
        <div><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank">Allen</a> ; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">Ma=
gnette List</a></div>
        <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Thelist] New Member</div></div></div>
        <div>=C2=A0</div></div>
        <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:cali=
bri;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
        <div>Welcome to the party Steve! Now all you have to do is figure o=
ut=20
        Steve-what would you like to be called - we have a Steve H (me), a =
Steve=20
        T, a #1Steve K. (Kaufman), a #2Steve K. (Kirby, really a #1 kinda g=
uy),=20
        let&#39;s see... Who am I leaving out... a bunch of us!<br>
        <div>=C2=A0</div>Steve H.</div>
        <div><br>On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:49 PM, bachldrs--- via Thelist &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br>
        <div>=C2=A0</div></div>
        <blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN-TOP:0px">
          <div>
          <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:arial">
          <div>Welcome Steve Lilves!=C2=A0 &#39; Hope you enjoy this list (=
informal=20
          club, really) as much as we do.=C2=A0 It&#39;s one-stop shopping =
for=20
          entertainment, information, advice, parts, and great=20
          friendships.<br></div>
          <div>=C2=A0</div>
          <div>Cheers,</div>
          <div>Allen</div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div><b><i>******************************************************=
**</i></b>=20

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          <div>
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          <div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:helvetica;FONT-VARIANT:normal;WHITE-SPA=
CE:normal;WORD-SPACING:0px;BORDER-COLLAPSE:separate;TEXT-TRANSFORM:none;FON=
T-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal;BORDER-SPACING:0px;LETTER-SPACING:normal;=
LINE-HEIGHT:normal">
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          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
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          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12px;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica;FONT-WEIGHT:no=
rmal;FONT-STYLE:normal"><b><i>Allen=20
          &amp; Florrie Bachelder=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=20
          =3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</i></b></div>
          <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12px;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica;FONT-WEIGHT:no=
rmal;FONT-STYLE:normal"><b><i>&#39;57=20
          ZB, &#39;60 A1600, &#39;65 B, &#39;69 C/GT, &#39;73 B/GT</i></b><=
/div>
          <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12px;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica;FONT-WEIGHT:no=
rmal;FONT-STYLE:normal"><b><i>North=20
          Street, MI 48049,=20
          USA</i></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><b><i><a href=
=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></i></b></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
/div></div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div>
          <div><b><i>******************************************************=
**</i></b></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
          <div>=C2=A0</div>
          <hr>

          <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:hel=
vetica,arial,sans-serif;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;FONT-STYLE:normal"><b>From:=20
          </b>&quot;Dee via Thelist&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:thelist@zmg=
na.org" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>To:=20
          </b>&quot;Mike&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:=20
          </b>&quot;Allen&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,=20
          &quot;Magnette List&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:=20
          </b>Tuesday, November 10, 2015 8:25:12 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re:=
=20
          [Thelist] New Member<br>
          <div>=C2=A0</div>
          <div>We have extra doors if anyone needs them. Welcome Steve , YA=
=20
          another CA member</div>
          <div>Dee<br>
          <div>=C2=A0</div>Sent from my iPad</div>
          <div><br>On Nov 10, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Mike via Thelist &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>
          <div>=C2=A0</div></div>
          <blockquote style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN-TOP:0px">
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            <div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;courier new&quot=
;,courier,monaco,monospace,sans-serif;BACKGROUND-COLOR:rgb(255,255,255)">
            <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi guys,<br><br>I&#39;d like to add Steve Lilv=
es in=20
            Corte Madera, CA to our merry band. Steve has a long-term ZA pr=
oject=20
            car, plus an assortment of spare pieces. I&#39;m pretty sure he=
 has a=20
            spare set of all four doors that he&#39;d be willing to sell, f=
or=20
            example.<br><br>Mike Jacobsen<br><br></div></div></div></blockq=
uote>
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