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[74.133.43.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w8sm29309711igl.13.2014.09.01.09.05.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:05:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mgmike62@gmail.com" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:05:09 -0400 To: Magnette group Subject: [Zmagnette] Seat slides Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net The seat slides with the adjusters are very tight, is this normal or do I start filing? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 10:10:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074E7258500F for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:10:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com (mail-pa0-f44.google.com [209.85.220.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63ABE25807F2 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:10:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id rd3so12751433pab.3 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:12:47 -0700 (PDT) d=betterwitnesses.com; s=google; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=DzQ3DYXNuEGVlNxuknkRyYFaJMoMeHB6WaC8LBXaO3A=; b=A7VpHF6BE7qvGugwhtdpHUJqUFjgZbPk5r0E/4hjdFlXwt3Cqaq1g/Jxz6EFmZLZD6 BDfaYLM03R9PONB+fABKPyDDmUeR5+HJ6sTf7BcFfE/G8vQNdTlkIPMPNbbk9fDL/gOU o/4BvE5IicDB/+Ev77ktjrCao2em/KPXsqLtk= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=DzQ3DYXNuEGVlNxuknkRyYFaJMoMeHB6WaC8LBXaO3A=; b=WVqrBU/yLj2vo9jHUKjpVhrK+8WWlm3PBi45DrAb4RLgngrvxuiVu95GZuNzJ7aWBU k96HZgm16mcUCJ7XSV8L8ffg1qKgTMcwTYQTijxEC10qYDUZ05eQ6Zr8ZS4PQB+mhRI0 VieMosKvvKkEns15sSviVIHVvhZQzimjG5r7wcf3Fwu94JIWD1kH79lZd5cWPqZBaxOA BmuauALV8b9u0ql0GlTzaqJh0n6t8HIvq7P7Vz4W9H7xDoJVrcnj4LQXK3vmCqJEBbVM KRfRoAQ7wPeu6X9+1TiO0TAIziee5JS0Z2DYVPCYSlFKdKsNjZReDxqjqnmX/RbazVJ3 qbZA== Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.8.193] (c-24-18-187-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [24.18.187.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o4sm1820099pdh.56.2014.09.01.09.12.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:12:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hanegan Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 09:12:40 -0700 References: To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Seat slides Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net No, this is not normal, and I assure you that the car did not leave the factory or the dealership in this condition - and there is no need to "start filing" (just makes things worse!). I would start by loosening all fasteners that hold the seat tracks to the seat frame and the tracks to the car body, then, move the seat fully back and forward to allow the bits to self align, then re-tighten the fasteners. There should be some resistance, but the seat should be easily adjustable throughout its' range. Make sure that there is some lubricant on the tracks as well. Steve H. On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Mgmike62@gmail.com wrote: > The seat slides with the adjusters are very tight, is this normal or do I start filing? > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/steve@betterwitnesses.com > _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 10:30:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A94225846CB for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:30:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC4D2580A14 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-aai02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aai02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.98]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5CE9F702FE5C6 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:33:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.167.126.101] (178.sub-70-209-205.myvzw.com [70.209.205.178]) by mtaout-aai02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 992F838000084; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:33:24 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: mail.com mail for Android From: "Steve C." Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:33:23 -0700 To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America , Magnette group x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409589205; bh=j0orkbceabcUNhXuQ4XfYKN3nbC9R5FkHcXI6G1JVi4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Bkn9DAYUIkK233ET41vRa0NwBsbyR9UuLld0M+MeSbT6jHu5tcxKQ3eVAqpcGEFTU qv0/Dx8j4WhLG7OcOvxy67hpYOlXYVKqk96slX5GKRV14hJ6G1KWyKg3ilfsAGuNB0 j6Xc1OUKzdz/cneSRMGOi8SL+30Lc8XK5rYY2dSk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b026254049fd406d2 Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Seat slides Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5433514633059674068== ------IO187VAQ989GRSU7DJ3JBMM1C3BKWF charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If they are off the car they will seem tight. Once mounted nake sure they are truly parallel to each other or they will bind as the seat is moved. Some parking wax rubbed on the contact surfaces will help a lot. -- Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse my brevity. "Mgmike62@gmail.com" wrote: The seat slides with the adjusters are very tight, is this normal or do I start filing? Sent from my iPhone _____________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ------IO187VAQ989GRSU7DJ3JBMM1C3BKWF charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If they are off the car they will seem tight. Once mounted nake sure they are truly parallel to each other or they will bind as the seat is moved. Some parking wax rubbed on the contact surfaces will help a lot.
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[198.228.232.191]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cz10sm30771327igc.5.2014.09.01.09.34.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 09:34:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mgmike62@gmail.com" Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 12:34:29 -0400 References: <659E2A2A-161E-4AB8-A84D-A628A3DEE45F@betterwitnesses.com> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Seat slides Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Steve, Thanks, the non-adjuster slides work fine and these are tight and not installed but just sitting on the bench, should I expect them to loosen up upon installation on the seats and in the car? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 1, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Steve Hanegan wrote: > > No, this is not normal, and I assure you that the car did not leave the factory or the dealership in this condition - and there is no need to "start filing" (just makes things worse!). I would start by loosening all fasteners that hold the seat tracks to the seat frame and the tracks to the car body, then, move the seat fully back and forward to allow the bits to self align, then re-tighten the fasteners. There should be some resistance, but the seat should be easily adjustable throughout its' range. Make sure that there is some lubricant on the tracks as well. > > Steve H. > > >> On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Mgmike62@gmail.com wrote: >> >> The seat slides with the adjusters are very tight, is this normal or do I start filing? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> Zmagnette mailing list >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/steve@betterwitnesses.com > > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/mgmike62@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 11:11:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E014C25809A9 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 11:11:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f175.google.com (mail-pd0-f175.google.com [209.85.192.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26AFE25807AC for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 11:11:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f175.google.com with SMTP id ft15so6554855pdb.6 for ; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 10:14:34 -0700 (PDT) d=betterwitnesses.com; s=google; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=dGupwDkHh9HD8PjSNdkBTq7T0uRd1HZsW0Mn1iLeGuw=; b=OIdQaTXZVt2KReTtmEKM511FoIHvg0d73nkB5Pgk+ImywrOQbT51pMwf7U/TcHDK+W zeSJ/ohY5YOc87px58o5wnsEAhv64BsF+vlZNXDP2yx5Zs2jxUz2WfdUOecwtn2gaI3E 4T+EFtETuV9LaEgIPNTgCmZAj5Yj7BF8D6Xr0= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=dGupwDkHh9HD8PjSNdkBTq7T0uRd1HZsW0Mn1iLeGuw=; b=XTh2Yxmc/NNpfKPgXj8EaNSlY5Uf+kZs/HqyW8QX8xCx0aHGV/GoqxTRvSz89ZRWW4 I0EROW+/oYMVtV6YCSQ7jT4RSs/pC2QBmsIVN99ifsnf2moWLjhxLt4FrVn3Rdjn3hxs jtdRF8kKy7j1nPpRVX8zjqbHH1pFOpYhW+1VrJbjHMt8+Wk8yu5Y40Z8gBe3Om78uTPr rJkl6AnnDmMySIs6L5Vgl6D6hlP7krA2kdOl+rjXxd/qbFm4sr8tGezsJKYD88O/pJnN 1uCggAN/V2XDmZw2+eZGQ/YJt8Cg0CT/dltJkAGDcHN7w+Nqwa6fO1tz0xgOZ0+42MSG XalA== Mon, 01 Sep 2014 10:14:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.8.193] (c-24-18-187-10.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [24.18.187.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fn4sm4034742pab.39.2014.09.01.10.14.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Sep 2014 10:14:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hanegan Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 10:14:27 -0700 References: <659E2A2A-161E-4AB8-A84D-A628A3DEE45F@betterwitnesses.com> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Seat slides Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net I am assuming that when you refer to the "adjuster" slide, you are referring to the one that has the lever and tab that locks the seat into one of the multiple positions fore and aft, and the "non-adjuster" slide as the one that simply slides for and aft with no lock mechanism? In both cases, you should find that the inner (part that fastens to the seat) and the outer (part that fastens to the channel support) will come apart. On the slide with the lever, the lever will need to be held out of the way to clear all of the detents. Once these are apart, I think you will find several decades worth of petrified grease and dirt and life residue in the channels where the two bits slide. I have a solvent tank, so, it was quite easy to just dump the parts in the tank and scrub until there was nothing left but clean metal. Some dish soap and a good stiff brush will work as well, maybe some Brake Cleaner to loosen the really stubborn bits. Once all is nice and clean, I think that you will find that the two pieces slide much better. A quick application of some white lithium grease should make them work like new. When you go to install them in the car, make sure to leave the channel supports (the bit that screws to the crossmember on the floor and the two pedestals) slightly loose and the screws that attach the slides to the seat frame very slightly loose as well. Slide the seats into the tracks with the seats in the "as far forward as it will go" position, and slide them rearward until the catch engages with the detent slots in the seat slide, then move the seat as far back as it will go. Move it back and forth a few times to get everything settled in, then, with the seat as far back as it will go, tighten the screws that hold the fixed half of the seat slide and the support channel to the floor mounts. Then, slide the set as far forward as it will go and tighten the screws that hold the fixed portion of the slide and the channel support to the floor crossmember. At this point, you can hold the adjuster catch disengaged and slide the seats all of the way forward and out of the fixed tracks, tighten the screws that hold the sliders to the seat frame and then re-install the seats in the car. The passenger side is easy peasy, the driver's side works better with the steering wheel removed to give that last 1/2" of travel that allows the seats to clear the fixed half of the slides. (Another excuse to exercise your stator tube de-construction/re-construction skills) :-) When all is assembled, you should be able to hold the catch lever out of the way with one hand and easily slide the seat fore and aft with the other - they did work this way when new... The good news is that you should only need to do this every 10 - 15 years or so as the "new" grease gets petrified and attracts and gets mixed with all of the dust & dirt that migrate to this part of the car All of the parts on the Magnette worked well when new. If slides don't slide, catches don't catch, or switches don't switch, it is because of age, neglect, dirt or damage - there is never any really good reason to just start modifying the bits in some random order or form... Steve H. On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Mgmike62@gmail.com wrote: > Steve, > Thanks, the non-adjuster slides work fine and these are tight and not installed but just sitting on the bench, should I expect them to loosen up upon installation on the seats and in the car? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 1, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Steve Hanegan wrote: >> >> No, this is not normal, and I assure you that the car did not leave the factory or the dealership in this condition - and there is no need to "start filing" (just makes things worse!). I would start by loosening all fasteners that hold the seat tracks to the seat frame and the tracks to the car body, then, move the seat fully back and forward to allow the bits to self align, then re-tighten the fasteners. There should be some resistance, but the seat should be easily adjustable throughout its' range. Make sure that there is some lubricant on the tracks as well. >> >> Steve H. >> >> >>> On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Mgmike62@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> The seat slides with the adjusters are very tight, is this normal or do I start filing? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Zmagnette mailing list >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/steve@betterwitnesses.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zmagnette mailing list >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/mgmike62@gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/steve@betterwitnesses.com > _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 1 21:15:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610D32584642 for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 21:15:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FC6258462B for ; Mon, 1 Sep 2014 21:15:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Steve-PC.optonline.net (ool-457e1f68.dyn.optonline.net [69.126.31.104]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0NB900FD37UHHU80@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for zmagnette@autox.team.net; Mon, 01 Sep 2014 23:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 23:16:48 -0400 From: Steven Trovato To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America , List for the Z Magnette Group - North America References: <659E2A2A-161E-4AB8-A84D-A628A3DEE45F@betterwitnesses.com> <599A17C3-0E53-4051-BAFC-614A312518A0@betterwitnesses.com> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Seat slides Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net FYI, this whole conversation is taking place on the old list. I'm surprised it still works. We are supposed to be using thelist@zmgna.org these days. -Steve T. _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 2 08:13:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22F425846A1 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:13:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f176.google.com (mail-ig0-f176.google.com [209.85.213.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C2325844ED for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:13:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f176.google.com with SMTP id hn18so14271443igb.3 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2014 07:16:19 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject :message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=ZXWYSSDB+tk5CA0j8JWu+8qyjlnAJo28QzX4mCtlrx8=; b=mbHWf0pwRv70J1MUPYoIroWxOZatw81q3G4m09ZGOCN2z48UB442yJg+MhzjIldaR1 SQCDdlgoS09gpUe6iN0pNbukfXfzcuherpSMd7qbz6XV8jG7v5ehHq01o8CNNGHxNnbR OHOl9KpDSsQQUoHG1n8PmbjFLFW7pgDM3O3fAABtlZJLTHDm4GbTs2onTibnAOjiJQP6 tkfPJAB/Q+Delc1iCRspi/TnC0brKSJu7Z1/tvjnlPuIs+5MzboVql9tOWZiuoeT6v19 yB5xIVeJzTgEi06/iy8BjHmCho2IOytVpxXn1tz7/4oFSvzfWEIz7PSTeqanp2B55grP xnBw== Tue, 02 Sep 2014 07:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.8] (cpe-74-133-43-92.swo.res.rr.com. [74.133.43.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e1sm40116451igx.14.2014.09.02.07.16.18 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Sep 2014 07:16:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mgmike62@gmail.com" Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 10:16:18 -0400 References: <659E2A2A-161E-4AB8-A84D-A628A3DEE45F@betterwitnesses.com> <599A17C3-0E53-4051-BAFC-614A312518A0@betterwitnesses.com> <0NB900FD57UHHU80@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Seat slides Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Steve, I first sent this mistakenly on the old list it immediately bounced back and I sent it on the new list site so I don't know what is up, Steve H. seat slides are working famously, I had the parts you see played with shiny Zinc and the parts they are bolted to Powder Coated, they look Great! Thanks again for your support.... Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 1, 2014, at 11:16 PM, Steven Trovato wrote: > > FYI, this whole conversation is taking place on the old list. I'm surprised it still works. We are supposed to be using thelist@zmgna.org these days. > > -Steve T. > > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/mgmike62@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 28 10:29:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7432580BA4 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:29:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: zmagnette@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65332580BA4 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 10:29:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [96.28.102.207] ([96.28.102.207:55914] helo=[192.168.0.197]) by dnvrco-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 3F/29-06155-F1838245; Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:32:31 +0000 From: Arch Boston Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:32:34 -0400 References: <4CBD54DD7FF44F909470629B4D329CC2@UserPC> <000901cfdb34$490991e0$db1cb5a0$@net> To: Jon Marino a=/rERdxLEcxKCM/aqUmL2hw==:117 a=/rERdxLEcxKCM/aqUmL2hw==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=lPUk2UEfVGMA:10 a=UNWf5WQ7AAAA:8 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=rjHJRHV9AAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=dE3lmBDXAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=ByA3CW9-cq134Bl5ByAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=350AVmJI-REA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=Xe94YC-5gyIA:10 a=g5UkVXYjhbCVDXSqCFQA:9 a=3JdT9WIbZQ3UnLUT:21 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Ce7i_KWWJc8A:10 Cc: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3118653441230108044== boundary=Apple-Mail-4DD44545-E3E3-4862-A965-8BE1CF536A6E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-4DD44545-E3E3-4862-A965-8BE1CF536A6E charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jon, hate to give a "stock" answer, but, worth nothing until you need it! T= ry looking at completed ebay listings and them half that price or less. You= will learn ebay is the big parts house for many of us. One thing look for c= hrome bits. And the brackets for the driving lights. Look at the chrome ta= il light piece on trunk lid. Plastic dome light cover. Think ... Would it b= e a bitch to duplicate or if hard to find pricey to ship. A good center bar= on the grill is very desirable. True worth-- about a fourth of what he thi= nks and twice as much as we "old timers" think. Arch Sent from my iPad > On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Jon Marino via Thelist w= rote: >=20 > Mea culpa. I meant gauges (not tachometer): speedo, oil pressure, etc. et= c. Those are the parts about which I am curious in terms of price. > =20 > Sorry about the mix up. > =20 > Jon > =20 > From: Steve [mailto:skirby210@cox.net]=20 > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:30 AM > To: Jon Marino; Magnette List > Subject: Re: [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts > =20 > wow, an almost impossible question to answer. He=E2=80=99d probably sell t= he whole parts car less than those bits. You MUST have a parts car! It=E2=80= =99s part of the membership requirements. > =20 > Guess I would hit the guy with =E2=80=9C . . . and how many other people h= ave asked you about a Magnette steering wheel or tach?=E2=80=9D Just as a s= tarting point, I would throw out maybe 25 on the steering wheels, and the ta= ch question??? The cars did not come with a tach, so not sure what he=E2=80= =99s trying to sell you? If it really is a tach, it is not a stock Magnette= tach, as there were not any. I =E2=80=98spose it might possibly have been d= ealer installed? but that=E2=80=99s a real stretch. More like something ad= ded by a PO, or even a DPO. It could be an =E2=80=9CMG=E2=80=9D (Smiths, Ja= eger) tach, from perhaps an A or B, which makes them fairly common. I woul= d say check the brand of the tach, and the condition, and if it is something= you really want to use, that looks appropriate, maybe try 10 bucks? > =20 > #2SteveK > =20 > From: Jon Marino via Thelist > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:36 AM > To: Magnette List > Subject: [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts > =20 > Happy Sunday folks! > =20 > I have a haggling question. A neighbor found a 1957 ZB at a nearby junkyar= d and told me about it. I went down there and checked it out. It was a tot= al rust bucket with few salvageable items on it. But, I could redo the stee= ring wheels (there are three in the car, for whatever reason) and the tachom= eter gadgets. So, what should I pay? According to my neighbor, this guy thi= nks he found a gold mine (nope), and I am a novice at haggling at a junk yar= d. Perhaps a better question is, what are un-restored steering wheels and t= achometer gadgets worth? > =20 > Thanks and best, > =20 > Jon M. > =20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4025/8286 - Release Date: 09/27/14 > _______________________________________________ > Thelist mailing list > Thelist@zmgna.org > http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org --Apple-Mail-4DD44545-E3E3-4862-A965-8BE1CF536A6E charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jon, hate to= give a "stock" answer, but, worth nothing until you need it!  Try look= ing at completed ebay listings and them half that price or less.  You w= ill learn ebay is the big parts house for many of us.  One thing look f= or chrome bits.  And the brackets for the driving lights.  Look at= the chrome tail light piece on trunk lid.  Plastic dome light cover. &= nbsp;Think ... Would it be a bitch to duplicate or if hard to find pricey to= ship.  A good center bar on the grill is very desirable.  True wo= rth-- about a fourth of what he thinks and twice as much as we "old timers" t= hink. Arch

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:53 A= M, Jon Marino via Thelist <thelist@z= mgna.org> wrote:

Mea culpa.  I meant gauges (not t= achometer): speedo, oil pressure, etc. etc.  Those are the parts about w= hich I am curious in terms of price.

 

Sorry about the mix up.<= /span>

 

Jon=

&= nbsp;

From:= Steve [mailto:sk= irby210@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:30 AM
= To: Jon Marino; Magnette List
Subject: Re: [Thelist] Junk Y= ard Parts

 = ;

wow, an almost impossible question to answer.  He=E2=80= =99d probably sell the whole parts car less than those bits.  You MUST h= ave a parts car!  It=E2=80=99s part of the membership requirements.

 

Guess I would hit the gu= y with =E2=80=9C . . . and how many other people have asked you about a Magn= ette steering wheel or tach?=E2=80=9D  Just as a starting point, I woul= d throw out maybe 25 on the steering wheels, and the tach question???  T= he cars did not come with a tach, so not sure what he=E2=80=99s trying to se= ll you?  If it really is a tach, it is not a stock Magnette tach, as th= ere were not any.  I =E2=80=98spose it might possibly have been dealer i= nstalled?  but that=E2=80=99s a real stretch.  More like something= added by a PO, or even a DPO.  It could be an =E2=80=9CMG=E2=80=9D (Sm= iths, Jaeger) tach, from perhaps an A or B, which makes them fairly common.&= nbsp;  I would say check the brand of the tach, and the condition, and i= f it is something you really want to use, that looks appropriate, maybe try 1= 0 bucks?

 

#2SteveK<= /o:p>

 

Se= nt: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:36 AM

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[24.18.187.10]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id db2sm10114861pbc.16.2014.09.28.09.35.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:35:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hanegan Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:35:45 -0700 References: <4CBD54DD7FF44F909470629B4D329CC2@UserPC> <000901cfdb34$490991e0$db1cb5a0$@net> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America Cc: Jon Marino Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4722218381024407785== --Apple-Mail=_6621220A-E8CC-4215-B551-E00ECBE746A2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 Award for most truthful statement of the day: "True worth-- about a = fourth of what he thinks and twice as much as we "old timers" think" - = Nicely put Arch!! Steve H. On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Arch Boston wrote: > Jon, hate to give a "stock" answer, but, worth nothing until you need = it! Try looking at completed ebay listings and them half that price or = less. You will learn ebay is the big parts house for many of us. One = thing look for chrome bits. And the brackets for the driving lights. = Look at the chrome tail light piece on trunk lid. Plastic dome light = cover. Think ... Would it be a bitch to duplicate or if hard to find = pricey to ship. A good center bar on the grill is very desirable. True = worth-- about a fourth of what he thinks and twice as much as we "old = timers" think. Arch >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Jon Marino via Thelist = wrote: >=20 >> Mea culpa. I meant gauges (not tachometer): speedo, oil pressure, = etc. etc. Those are the parts about which I am curious in terms of = price. >> =20 >> Sorry about the mix up. >> =20 >> Jon >> =20 >> From: Steve [mailto:skirby210@cox.net]=20 >> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:30 AM >> To: Jon Marino; Magnette List >> Subject: Re: [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts >> =20 >> wow, an almost impossible question to answer. He=92d probably sell = the whole parts car less than those bits. You MUST have a parts car! = It=92s part of the membership requirements. >> =20 >> Guess I would hit the guy with =93 . . . and how many other people = have asked you about a Magnette steering wheel or tach?=94 Just as a = starting point, I would throw out maybe 25 on the steering wheels, and = the tach question??? The cars did not come with a tach, so not sure = what he=92s trying to sell you? If it really is a tach, it is not a = stock Magnette tach, as there were not any. I =91spose it might = possibly have been dealer installed? but that=92s a real stretch. More = like something added by a PO, or even a DPO. It could be an =93MG=94 = (Smiths, Jaeger) tach, from perhaps an A or B, which makes them fairly = common. I would say check the brand of the tach, and the condition, = and if it is something you really want to use, that looks appropriate, = maybe try 10 bucks? >> =20 >> #2SteveK >> =20 >> From: Jon Marino via Thelist >> Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:36 AM >> To: Magnette List >> Subject: [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts >> =20 >> Happy Sunday folks! >> =20 >> I have a haggling question. A neighbor found a 1957 ZB at a nearby = junkyard and told me about it. I went down there and checked it out. = It was a total rust bucket with few salvageable items on it. But, I = could redo the steering wheels (there are three in the car, for whatever = reason) and the tachometer gadgets. So, what should I pay? According to = my neighbor, this guy thinks he found a gold mine (nope), and I am a = novice at haggling at a junk yard. Perhaps a better question is, what = are un-restored steering wheels and tachometer gadgets worth? >> =20 >> Thanks and best, >> =20 >> Jon M. >> =20 >> =20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Thelist mailing list >> Thelist@zmgna.org >> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4025/8286 - Release Date: = 09/27/14 >> _______________________________________________ >> Thelist mailing list >> Thelist@zmgna.org >> http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org > _______________________________________________ > Zmagnette mailing list >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/steve@betterwitnesses.com --Apple-Mail=_6621220A-E8CC-4215-B551-E00ECBE746A2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 Award = for most truthful statement of the day: "True worth-- about a fourth of what he thinks and twice = as much as we "old timers" think" - Nicely put Arch!!

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On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:32 AM, = Arch Boston <arch.boston@twc.com> = wrote:

Jon, hate to give a "stock" = answer, but, worth nothing until you need it!  Try looking at = completed ebay listings and them half that price or less.  You will = learn ebay is the big parts house for many of us.  One thing look = for chrome bits.  And the brackets for the driving lights. =  Look at the chrome tail light piece on trunk lid.  Plastic = dome light cover.  Think ... Would it be a bitch to duplicate or if = hard to find pricey to ship.  A good center bar on the grill is = very desirable.  True worth-- about a fourth of what he thinks and = twice as much as we "old timers" think. Arch

Sent from my = iPad

On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Jon Marino via Thelist = <thelist@zmgna.org> = wrote:

Mea culpa.  I meant gauges (not tachometer): = speedo, oil pressure, etc. etc.  Those are the parts about which I = am curious in terms of price.
 
Sorry about the mix up.
 
Jon
 
From: Steve [mailto:skirby210@cox.net] 
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 = 8:30 AM
To: Jon Marino; Magnette = List
Subject: Re: [Thelist] Junk Yard = Parts
 
wow, an almost impossible question to = answer.  He=92d probably sell the whole parts car less than those = bits.  You MUST have a parts car!  It=92s part of the = membership requirements.
 
Guess I would hit the guy = with =93 . . . and how many other people have asked you about a Magnette = steering wheel or tach?=94  Just as a starting point, I would throw = out maybe 25 on the steering wheels, and the tach question???  The = cars did not come with a tach, so not sure what he=92s trying to sell = you?  If it really is a tach, it is not a stock Magnette tach, as = there were not any.  I =91spose it might possibly have been dealer = installed?  but that=92s a real stretch.  More like something = added by a PO, or even a DPO.  It could be an =93MG=94 (Smiths, = Jaeger) tach, from perhaps an A or B, which makes them fairly = common.   I would say check the brand of the tach, and the = condition, and if it is something you really want to use, that looks = appropriate, maybe try 10 bucks?
 
#2SteveK
 
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 = 7:36 AM
Subject: [Thelist] Junk Yard = Parts
 
Happy Sunday = folks!
 
I have a haggling question. A neighbor found a 1957 ZB at a = nearby junkyard and told me about it.  I went down there and = checked it out.  It was a total rust bucket with few salvageable = items on it.  But, I could redo the steering wheels (there are = three in the car, for whatever reason) and the tachometer gadgets.  = So, what should I pay? According to my neighbor, this guy thinks he = found a gold mine (nope), and I am a novice at haggling at a junk = yard.  Perhaps a better question is, what are un-restored steering = wheels and tachometer gadgets worth?
 
Thanks and = best,
 
Jon M.
 
 
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:44:31 -0700 To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1411929875; bh=8e0uCXtYtKNrIZhnO/h2JCtTXBVO+2vDUXtyyrl/2E8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Xd2u3OEqanFh0VFkSO+7kGgaqv03M6e7+jsH88NX7UoX6He3lGHXF42CII1q8xo4I fzM5GBPwv1scX3QbH0cAaZoUNwY/2PEmTtl10rR9n3HxeSAk5BABtgj17h29OqofKQ 3cd9bIGGkguF4262U+ECfya5Df+LzjmTF23KP06s= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe8d54285711649a Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts Errors-To: zmagnette-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6874884076453880379== ------0PA58RPB6M2J9AG6TMHO5LDJJBJLQU charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It might help to have an idea what they pay for cars like that. I know local pick-a-parts advertise they will pay $750 for junk cars. I am guessing they less depending how complete or not a car is. The good thing about cars from pick-a-part is prices are the same no matter what car they came off of. If there are parts you really need I would grab them now and negotiate what you think they are worth to you. For the rest find out how long before it goes to scrap metal and come back before then and bargain for anything else you may want. By then he should realize it is not gold. Bundle everything together for the best deal usually. A lot may be gone as others may thing it is gold too. I once got word of a complete tin top ZA on saturday night, by the time I got there at 10 am the next day many items including the grill I desperately wanted were gone already. Steve C. -- Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Steve Hanegan wrote: Award for most truthful statement of the day: "True worth-- about a fourth of what he thinks and twice as much as we "old timers" think" - Nicely put Arch!! Steve H. On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Arch Boston wrote: Jon, hate to give a "stock" answer, but, worth nothing until you need it! Try looking at completed ebay listings and them half that price or less. You will learn ebay is the big parts house for many of us. One thing look for chrome bits. And the brackets for the driving lights. Look at the chrome tail light piece on trunk lid. Plastic dome light cover. Think ... Would it be a bitch to duplicate or if hard to find pricey to ship. A good center bar on the grill is very desirable. True worth-- about a fourth of what he thinks and twice as much as we "old timers" think. Arch Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Jon Marino via Thelist wrote: Mea culpa. I meant gauges (not tachometer): speedo, oil pressure, etc. etc. Those are the parts about which I am curious in terms of price. Sorry about the mix up. Jon From: Steve [mailto:skirby210@cox.net] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:30 AM To: Jon Marino; Magnette List Subject: Re: [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts wow, an almost impossible question to answer. He’d probably sell the whole parts car less than those bits. You MUST have a parts car! It’s part of the membership requirements. Guess I would hit the guy with “ . . . and how many other people have asked you about a Magnette steering wheel or tach?” Just as a starting point, I would throw out maybe 25 on the steering wheels, and the tach question??? The cars did not come with a tach, so not sure what he’s trying to sell you? If it really is a tach, it is not a stock Magnette tach, as there were not any. I ‘spose it might possibly have been dealer installed? but that’s a real stretch. More like something added by a PO, or even a DPO. It could be an “MG” (Smiths, Jaeger) tach, from perhaps an A or B, which makes them fairly common. I would say check the brand of the tach, and the condition, and if it is something you really want to use, that looks appropriate, maybe try 10 bucks? #2SteveK From: Jon Marino via Thelist Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:36 AM To: Magnette List Subject: [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts Happy Sunday folks! I have a haggling question. A neighbor found a 1957 ZB at a nearby junkyard and told me about it. I went down there and checked it out. It was a total rust bucket with few salvageable items on it. But, I could redo the steering wheels (there are three in the car, for whatever reason) and the tachometer gadgets. So, what should I pay? According to my neighbor, this guy thinks he found a gold mine (nope), and I am a novice at haggling at a junk yard. Perhaps a better question is, what are un-restored steering wheels and tachometer gadgets worth? Thanks and best, Jon M. _____________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Thelist mailing list Thelist@zmgna.org http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org _____________________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4765 / Virus Database: 4025/8286 - Release Date: 09/27/14 _______________________________________________ Thelist mailing list Thelist@zmgna.org http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org _______________________________________________ Zmagnette mailing list Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ------0PA58RPB6M2J9AG6TMHO5LDJJBJLQU charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It might help to have an idea what they pay for cars like that. I know local pick-a-parts advertise they will pay $750 for junk cars. I am guessing they less depending how complete or not a car is. The good thing about cars from pick-a-part is prices are the same no matter what car they came off of.
If there are parts you really need I would grab them now and negotiate what you think they are worth to you. For the rest find out how long before it goes to scrap metal and come back before then and bargain for anything else you may want. By then he should realize it is not gold. Bundle everything together for the best deal usually. A lot may be gone as others may thing it is gold too.
I once got word of a complete tin top ZA on saturday night, by the time I got there at 10 am the next day many items including the grill I desperately wanted were gone already.
Steve C.
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Steve Hanegan <steve@betterwitnesses.com> wrote:
Award for most truthful statement of the day: "True worth-- about a fourth of what he thinks and twice as much as we "old timers" think" - Nicely put Arch!!

Steve H.


On Sep 28, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Arch Boston <arch.boston@twc.com> wrote:

Jon, hate to give a "stock " answer, but, worth nothing until you need it!  Try looking at completed ebay listings and them half that price or less.  You will learn ebay is the big parts house for many of us.  One thing look for chrome bits.  And the brackets for the driving lights.  Look at the chrome tail light piece on trunk lid.  Plastic dome light cover.  Think ... Would it be a bitch to duplicate or if hard to find pricey to ship.  A good center bar on the grill is very desirable.  True worth-- about a fourth of what he thinks and twice as much as we "old timers" think. Arch

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On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Jon Marino via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> wrote:

Mea culpa.  I meant gauges (not tachometer): speedo, oil pressure, etc. etc.  Those are the parts about which I am curious in terms of price.
 
Sorry about the mix up.
 
Jon
 
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wow, an almost impossible question to answer.  He’d probably sell the whole parts car less than those bits.  You MUST have a parts car!  It’s part of the membership requirements.
 
Guess I would hit the guy with “ . . . and how many other people have asked you about a Magnette steering wheel or tach?”  Just as a starting point, I would throw out maybe 25 on the steering wheels, and the tach question???  The cars did not come with a tach, so not sure what he’s trying to sell you?  If it really is a tach, it is not a stock Magnette tach, as there were not any.  I ‘spose it might possibly have been dealer installed?  but that’s a real stretch.  More like something added by a PO, or even a DPO.  It could be an “MG” (Smiths, Jaeger) tach, from perhaps an A or B, which makes them fairly common.   I would say check the brand of the tach, and the condition, and if it is something you really want to use, that looks appropriate, maybe try 10 bucks?
 
#2SteveK
 
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Happy Sunday folks!
 
I have a haggling question. A neighbor found a 1957 ZB at a nearby junkyard and told me about it.  I went down there and checked it out.  It was a total rust bucket with few salvageable items on it.  But, I could redo the steering wheels (there are three in the car, for whatever reason) and the tachometer gadgets.  So, what should I pay? According to my neighbor, this guy thinks he found a gold mine (nope), and I am a novice at haggling at a junk yard.  Perhaps a better qu estion is, what are un-restored steering wheels and tachometer gadgets worth?
 
Thanks and best,
 
Jon M.
 
 
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And, is this car a Varitone? If so, you need that trim. From: Arch Boston=20 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:32 AM To: Jon Marino=20 Cc: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20 Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts Jon, hate to give a "stock" answer, but, worth nothing until you need = it! Try looking at completed ebay listings and them half that price or = less. You will learn ebay is the big parts house for many of us. One = thing look for chrome bits. And the brackets for the driving lights. = Look at the chrome tail light piece on trunk lid. Plastic dome light = cover. Think ... Would it be a bitch to duplicate or if hard to find = pricey to ship. A good center bar on the grill is very desirable. True = worth-- about a fourth of what he thinks and twice as much as we "old = timers" think. Arch Sent from my iPad On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Jon Marino via Thelist = wrote: Mea culpa. I meant gauges (not tachometer): speedo, oil pressure, = etc. etc. Those are the parts about which I am curious in terms of = price.=20 =20 Sorry about the mix up. =20 Jon =20 From: Steve [mailto:skirby210@cox.net]=20 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 8:30 AM To: Jon Marino; Magnette List Subject: Re: [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts =20 wow, an almost impossible question to answer. He=E2=80=99d probably = sell the whole parts car less than those bits. You MUST have a parts = car! It=E2=80=99s part of the membership requirements. =20 Guess I would hit the guy with =E2=80=9C . . . and how many other = people have asked you about a Magnette steering wheel or tach?=E2=80=9D = Just as a starting point, I would throw out maybe 25 on the steering = wheels, and the tach question??? The cars did not come with a tach, so = not sure what he=E2=80=99s trying to sell you? If it really is a tach, = it is not a stock Magnette tach, as there were not any. I = =E2=80=98spose it might possibly have been dealer installed? but = that=E2=80=99s a real stretch. More like something added by a PO, or = even a DPO. It could be an =E2=80=9CMG=E2=80=9D (Smiths, Jaeger) tach, = from perhaps an A or B, which makes them fairly common. I would say = check the brand of the tach, and the condition, and if it is something = you really want to use, that looks appropriate, maybe try 10 bucks? =20 #2SteveK =20 From: Jon Marino via Thelist=20 Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:36 AM To: Magnette List=20 Subject: [Thelist] Junk Yard Parts =20 Happy Sunday folks! =20 I have a haggling question. A neighbor found a 1957 ZB at a nearby = junkyard and told me about it. I went down there and checked it out. = It was a total rust bucket with few salvageable items on it. But, I = could redo the steering wheels (there are three in the car, for whatever = reason) and the tachometer gadgets. So, what should I pay? According to = my neighbor, this guy thinks he found a gold mine (nope), and I am a = novice at haggling at a junk yard. Perhaps a better question is, what = are un-restored steering wheels and tachometer gadgets worth? =20 Thanks and best, =20 Jon M. =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ Thelist mailing list Thelist@zmgna.org http://zmgna.org/mailman/listinfo/thelist_zmgna.org -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this message. 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good points.  And, is this car a Varitone?  If so, you = need that=20 trim.
 
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Jon, hate to give a "stock" answer, but, worth nothing until you = need=20 it!  Try looking at completed ebay listings and them half that = price or=20 less.  You will learn ebay is the big parts house for many of = us.  One=20 thing look for chrome bits.  And the brackets for the driving = lights. =20 Look at the chrome tail light piece on trunk lid.  Plastic dome = light=20 cover.  Think ... Would it be a bitch to duplicate or if hard to = find=20 pricey to ship.  A good center bar on the grill is very = desirable. =20 True worth-- about a fourth of what he thinks and twice as much as we = "old=20 timers" think. Arch

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On Sep 28, 2014, at 11:53 AM, Jon Marino via Thelist <thelist@zmgna.org> = wrote:

Mea culpa.  I = meant=20 gauges (not tachometer): speedo, oil pressure, etc. etc.  Those = are the=20 parts about which I am curious in terms of price. =

 

Sorry about the = mix=20 up.

 

Jon

 

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wow, an almost=20 impossible question to answer.  He=E2=80=99d probably sell the = whole parts car=20 less than those bits.  You MUST have a parts car!  = It=E2=80=99s part of the=20 membership requirements.

 

Guess I would=20 hit the guy with =E2=80=9C . . . and how many other people have asked = you about a=20 Magnette steering wheel or tach?=E2=80=9D  Just as a starting = point, I would=20 throw out maybe 25 on the steering wheels, and the tach = question???  The=20 cars did not come with a tach, so not sure what he=E2=80=99s trying to = sell you? =20 If it really is a tach, it is not a stock Magnette tach, as there were = not=20 any.  I =E2=80=98spose it might possibly have been dealer = installed?  but=20 that=E2=80=99s a real stretch.  More like something added by a = PO, or even a=20 DPO.  It could be an =E2=80=9CMG=E2=80=9D (Smiths, Jaeger) tach, = from perhaps an A or B,=20 which makes them fairly common.   I would say check the = brand of the=20 tach, and the condition, and if it is something you really want to = use, that=20 looks appropriate, maybe try 10 bucks?

 

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Happy Sunday=20 folks!

 

I have a haggling = question. A=20 neighbor found a 1957 ZB at a nearby junkyard and told me about = it.  I=20 went down there and checked it out.  It was a total rust bucket = with few=20 salvageable items on it.  But, I could redo the steering wheels = (there=20 are three in the car, for whatever reason) and the tachometer = gadgets. =20 So, what should I pay? According to my neighbor, this guy thinks he = found a=20 gold mine (nope), and I am a novice at haggling at a junk yard.  = Perhaps=20 a better question is, what are un-restored steering wheels and = tachometer=20 gadgets worth?

 

Thanks and=20 best,

 

Jon = M.

 

 

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