Subject: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet 20000 <[email-masked]> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>

From: John Marcell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:54:47 -0600

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Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself.  Even I don't =
think you could do one with you doing all the work today.

Phil

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Gary Sandusky <[email-masked]>
> Subject: 1958 MG Magnet	 20000
> Date: January 11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST
> To: Phil Marcell <[email-masked]>
>=20
> Take a look at this Magnet.=20
> Gary
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> http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html
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> Sent from my iPhone

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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Good =
car, good price if you cant do the work yourself. &nbsp;Even I don't =
think you could do one with you doing all the work =
today.<div><br></div><div>Phil<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded =
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1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">Gary Sandusky &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></div>=
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font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;"><b>1958 MG Magnet	 20000</b><br></span></div><div =
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margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">January 11, 2014 =
9:34:04 PM CST<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
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font-size:medium;">Phil Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></=
div><br><div>Take a look at this Magnet. <br>Gary<br><br><a =
href=3D"http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html">http://dalla=
s.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</a><br><br><br>Sent from my =
iPhone<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>=

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From: "Paul Barrow" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:08:35 -0800

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Must be the Short Wheel Base Version :-)

LOL!!

Nice looking car!

Paul Barrow

153 Clemons Road

Montesano, WA 98563 USA

+1 360 249 5123 Landline

+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone

+1 360 249 3776 Fax

[email-masked]

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From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of John Marcell
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 10:55 AM
To: North America List for the Z Magnette Group -
Subject: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet 20000

Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself.  Even I don't think
you could do one with you doing all the work today.

Phil

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Take a look at this Magnet 
Gary

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[email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, January 12, 20=
14
10:55 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> North America List for t=
he Z
Magnette Group -<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Zmagnette] Fwd: 19=
58 MG
Magnet 20000</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself. &nbsp;Even I
don't think you could do one with you doing all the work today.<o:p></o:p><=
/span></font></p>

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<st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">Gary</st1:place></st1:City><br=
<br>
<a href=3D"http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html">http://dal=
las.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</a><br>
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From: Steve Hanegan <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:23:32 -0800

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This is a pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably not, =
but if it drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a good =
deal for the buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for this =
price, even if you are starting with a good solid car. I question =
whether there is a market that will step in and buy a car like this at =
this price. I am at a loss on how we as Magnette owners can create a =
market for good clean cars like this one. A  Mk II Jag in this condition =
would have no problem reaching $30K - $35K at auction because of the =
reputation and mystique of Jaguar, though these prices have remained =
pretty constant over the past 10 years or so. Though it lacks the =
torquey 6 and top notch brakes of the Jag, the Magnette is still a very =
solid car with better than average handling characteristics and a very =
posh and cozy interior. I would speculate that having a few more =
"finished" cars sell, and perhaps, sell at one of the more prominent =
Auctions such as Barret Jackson, would  increase the public awareness =
and demand for our cars. Without demand, there really isn't any value, =
and demand can't be built on $2K projects.

I am guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our cars - =
holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the market will =
come up far enough to make this more of a typical value.

Steve H.

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">This =
is a pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably not, but =
if it drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a good deal =
for the buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for this =
price, even if you are starting with a good solid car. I question =
whether there is a market that will step in and buy a car like this at =
this price. I am at a loss on how we as Magnette owners can create a =
market for good clean cars like this one. A &nbsp;Mk II Jag in this =
condition would have no problem reaching $30K - $35K at auction because =
of the reputation and mystique of Jaguar, though these prices have =
remained pretty constant over the past 10 years or so. Though it lacks =
the torquey 6 and top notch brakes of the Jag, the Magnette is still a =
very solid car with better than average handling characteristics and a =
very posh and cozy interior. I would speculate that having a few more =
"finished" cars sell, and perhaps, sell at one of the more prominent =
Auctions such as Barret Jackson, would &nbsp;increase the public =
awareness and demand for our cars. Without demand, there really isn't =
any value, and demand can't be built on $2K =
projects.<div><br></div><div>I am guessing that a few more of us are =
going to need to sell our cars - holding out for prices like this one or =
higher - before the market will come up far enough to make this more of =
a typical value.</div><div><br></div><div>Steve =
H.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 12, 2014, at 10:54 AM, =
John Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Good =
car, good price if you cant do the work yourself. &nbsp;Even I don't =
think you could do one with you doing all the work =
today.<div><br></div><div>Phil<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded =
message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>From: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Gary Sandusky =
&lt;<a =
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font-size:medium;">Phil Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></=
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Well I've thought of the auction route but pretty much all of the bigger
ones are several days drive away. To ship the car, especially at this time
of year is into 4 figures and then there is the auction house fees which cut
into the final sale price. So is it worth trying to go that route to
"establish" a value or just move the car for what you can get if you don't
want to hang on for years until someone decides you do have a nice car?

From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Steve Hanegan
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:24 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet 20000

This is a pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably not, but
if it drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a good deal for
the buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for this price, even
if you are starting with a good solid car. I question whether there is a
market that will step in and buy a car like this at this price. I am at a
loss on how we as Magnette owners can create a market for good clean cars
like this one. A  Mk II Jag in this condition would have no problem reaching
$30K - $35K at auction because of the reputation and mystique of Jaguar,
though these prices have remained pretty constant over the past 10 years or
so. Though it lacks the torquey 6 and top notch brakes of the Jag, the
Magnette is still a very solid car with better than average handling
characteristics and a very posh and cozy interior. I would speculate that
having a few more "finished" cars sell, and perhaps, sell at one of the more
prominent Auctions such as Barret Jackson, would  increase the public
awareness and demand for our cars. Without demand, there really isn't any
value, and demand can't be built on $2K projects.

I am guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our cars -
holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the market will come
up far enough to make this more of a typical value.

Steve H.

On Jan 12, 2014, at 10:54 AM, John Marcell <[email-masked]

Phil

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Take a look at this Magnet. 
Gary

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>Well I&#8217;ve thought of the auction route but pretty much all of the =
bigger ones are several days drive away. To ship the car, especially at =
this time of year is into 4 figures and then there is the auction house =
fees which cut into the final sale price. So is it worth trying to go =
that route to &#8220;establish&#8221; a value or just move the car for =
what you can get if you don&#8217;t want to hang on for years until =
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[email-masked] =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve =
Hanegan<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet =
20000<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>This is a =
pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably not, but if it =
drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a good deal for the =
buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for this price, even =
if you are starting with a good solid car. I question whether there is a =
market that will step in and buy a car like this at this price. I am at =
a loss on how we as Magnette owners can create a market for good clean =
cars like this one. A &nbsp;Mk II Jag in this condition would have no =
problem reaching $30K - $35K at auction because of the reputation and =
mystique of Jaguar, though these prices have remained pretty constant =
over the past 10 years or so. Though it lacks the torquey 6 and top =
notch brakes of the Jag, the Magnette is still a very solid car with =
better than average handling characteristics and a very posh and cozy =
interior. I would speculate that having a few more &quot;finished&quot; =
cars sell, and perhaps, sell at one of the more prominent Auctions such =
as Barret Jackson, would &nbsp;increase the public awareness and demand =
for our cars. Without demand, there really isn't any value, and demand =
can't be built on $2K projects.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
am guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our cars - =
holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the market will =
come up far enough to make this more of a typical =
value.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Steve H.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Jan 12, 2014, at 10:54 AM, John Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself. =
&nbsp;Even I don't think you could do one with you doing all the work =
today.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Phil<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Begin =
forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Gary =
Sandusky &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Subject: =
1958 MG Magnet 20000</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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Marcell &lt;<a =
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</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Take a look at this Magnet. <br>Gary<br><br><a =
href=3D"http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html">http://dall=
as.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</a><br><br><br>Sent from my =
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From: Steven Trovato <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 16:31:51 -0500

There is only one way I can think of to "create a market" for cars 
like this.  Whenever one comes up for sale, buy it.  If a couple of 
you would like to get into a bidding war, that would help too!  As 
you said, without demand, there really isn't any value.  You're not 
going to create demand by holding out for high prices.  It might help 
if a Magnette played a prominent part in a movie or TV show.  It has 
to be something mainstream and popular though.  Maybe you could fit a 
flux capacitor, but 88 mph would be challenging without some modifications.

-Steve T.

At 03:23 PM 1/12/2014, Steve Hanegan wrote:
>This is a pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably 
>not, but if it drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a 
>good deal for the buyer. You certainly could not build one like this 
>for this price, even if you are starting with a good solid car. I 
>question whether there is a market that will step in and buy a car 
>like this at this price. I am at a loss on how we as Magnette owners 
>can create a market for good clean cars like this one. A  Mk II Jag 
>in this condition would have no problem reaching $30K - $35K at 
>auction because of the reputation and mystique of Jaguar, though 
>these prices have remained pretty constant over the past 10 years or 
>so. Though it lacks the torquey 6 and top notch brakes of the Jag, 
>the Magnette is still a very solid car with better than average 
>handling characteristics and a very posh and cozy interior. I would 
>speculate that having a few more "finished" cars sell, and perhaps, 
>sell at one of the more prominent Auctions such as Barret Jackson, 
>would  increase the public awareness and demand for our cars. 
>Without demand, there really isn't any value, and demand can't be 
>built on $2K projects.
>
>I am guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our 
>cars - holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the 
>market will come up far enough to make this more of a typical value.
>
>Steve H.

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Yes, the auctions are an expensive way to sell a car. Getting a car =
registered, transportation and the fees charge to both the seller and =
the buyer are quite eye watering unless you have a highly sought after =
car such as a  23 window VW van or a Ferrari or similar. I have a friend =
who has a very nice mid '90s Jag XJ6R. This is a very nice car, great =
condition, well looked after, runs perfectly etc. Mark took his car to a =
local "collector car" dealer who takes cars to local auctions. Mark =
ended up incurring about $1500 in fees trying to peddle the Jag at $10K =
- with no sale. The dealer charged $400 to "detail" a car that had just =
had an expensive detail just prior to it being listed added storage and =
"processing" fees etc.

But, auctions DO tend to set "market values" and drive cars to a higher =
value. I have another friend who has an absolute jewell of a 1970 split =
bumper MGB. The evaluation guides, such as Sports Car Market, KBB =
Classic, Hagerty etc. indicate that this should be a $14K - $18K car. =
Advertising and trying to sell it around here at $10K, in winter, has =
resulted in not one single nibble. My suggestion would be to advertise =
the car to the widest audience possible and be patient. Websites such as =
The MG Experience, NAMGAR's website (and print) and NAMGBR's site point =
the car to the widest possible audience - of targeted buyers - folks who =
are already knowledgeable and interested in MGs, seems prudent. Showing =
the car at local British Car shows and at local club events and in local =
club newsletters can often be effective as well.

The biggest problem with Magnettes is A) the lack of "comps" and B) =
relatively few folks know what a good car they are - with a resulting =
lack of solid demand. I would hate to be the one to have to be the =
benchmark or trendsetter! I guess that part of our task as the leading =
Magnette support group would be to publicize the cars as much as =
possible (establishing desirability) and to support and publicize any of =
the sales that result in an appropriate sale price and "real" value for =
the cars (helping to establish value). We should cheer and encourage =
every sale of $20K+ if that is the direction we would like to see values =
go. Even so, $20K isn't anywhere near what it takes to create a good =
solid "ready to drive" Magnette from some of the starting points that I =
see for sale. That being said, I would also point out that every time we =
see something that is for sale, we seem to knock it down on the details =
or price. The motivation for a seller is far different than that for a =
buyer. We should cheer every car that sells (cowboy blanket upholstery =
notwithstanding), because every one that does sell helps to increase the =
value of our cars when It is time for us to sell. (Cowboy blanket sold =
for $12K - mine is "original" and "correct" for $20K and that is why you =
should buy it...)

We really do only have two options: either we establish a price that we =
would like to see for our car and be prepared to wait (maybe years) =
until some buyer agrees, or, find someone who is willing to buy the car =
and be prepared to accept whatever they offer for it. Sad choices =
indeed.

I do happen to know of a great British Car show with a great "Car for =
Sale" section that averages about 50% of cars sold... it is in July =
(great time to take advantage of the summer weather)... I will say that =
any Magnetteer trying to sell their car at the Western Washington All =
British Field Meet will get a screaming good deal from the organizer... =
and full support and help from the organizer... and maybe even a free =
lunch (great bratwurst!)... all you have to do is show up at St. Edward =
State Park on Saturday, July 26th and tell them you know Steve H. and =
have a personal invite...

Steve H.

On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:06 PM, John Park <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Well I=92ve thought of the auction route but pretty much all of the =
bigger ones are several days drive away. To ship the car, especially at =
this time of year is into 4 figures and then there is the auction house =
fees which cut into the final sale price. So is it worth trying to go =
that route to =93establish=94 a value or just move the car for what you =
can get if you don=92t want to hang on for years until someone decides =
you do have a nice car?
> =20
> From: [email-masked] =
> This is a pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably =
not, but if it drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a =
good deal for the buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for =
this price, even if you are starting with a good solid car. I question =
> =20
> I am guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our cars =
- holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the market =
will come up far enough to make this more of a typical value.

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style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Yes, the auctions are an =
expensive way to sell a car. Getting a car registered, transportation =
and the fees charge to both the seller and the buyer are quite eye =
watering unless you have a highly sought after car such as a &nbsp;23 =
window VW van or a Ferrari or similar. I have a friend who has a very =
nice mid '90s Jag XJ6R. This is a <u>very</u> nice car, great condition, =
well looked after, runs perfectly etc. Mark took his car to a local =
"collector car" dealer who takes cars to local auctions. Mark ended up =
incurring about $1500 in fees trying to peddle the Jag at $10K - with no =
sale. The dealer charged $400 to "detail" a car that had just had an =
expensive detail just prior to it being listed added storage and =
"processing" fees etc.<div><br></div><div>But, auctions DO tend to set =
"market values" and drive cars to a higher value. I have another friend =
who has an absolute jewell of a 1970 split bumper MGB. The evaluation =
guides, such as Sports Car Market, KBB Classic, Hagerty etc. indicate =
that this should be a $14K - $18K car. Advertising and trying to sell it =
around here at $10K, in winter, has resulted in not one single nibble. =
My suggestion would be to advertise the car to the widest audience =
possible and be patient. Websites such as The MG Experience, NAMGAR's =
website (and print) and NAMGBR's site point the car to the widest =
possible audience - of targeted buyers - folks who are already =
knowledgeable and interested in MGs, seems prudent. Showing the car at =
local British Car shows and at local club events and in local club =
newsletters can often be effective as well.</div><div><br></div><div>The =
biggest problem with Magnettes is A) the lack of "comps" and B) =
relatively few folks know what a good car they are - with a resulting =
lack of solid demand. I would hate to be the one to have to be the =
benchmark or trendsetter! I guess that part of our task as the leading =
Magnette support group would be to publicize the cars as much as =
possible (establishing desirability) and to support and publicize any of =
the sales that result in an appropriate sale price and "real" value for =
the cars (helping to establish value). We should cheer and encourage =
every sale of $20K+ if that is the direction we would like to see values =
go. Even so, $20K isn't anywhere near what it takes to create a good =
solid "ready to drive" Magnette from some of the starting points that I =
see for sale. That being said, I would also point out that every time we =
see something that is for sale, we seem to knock it down on the details =
or price. The motivation for a seller is far different than that for a =
buyer. We should cheer every car that sells (cowboy blanket upholstery =
notwithstanding), because every one that does sell helps to increase the =
value of our cars when It is time for us to sell. (Cowboy blanket sold =
for $12K - mine is "original" and "correct" for $20K and that is why you =
should buy it...)</div><div><br></div><div>We really do only have two =
options: either we establish a price that we would like to see for our =
car and be prepared to wait (maybe years) until some buyer agrees, or, =
find someone who is willing to buy the car and be prepared to accept =
whatever they offer for it. Sad choices =
indeed.</div><div><br></div><div>I do happen to know of a great British =
Car show with a great "Car for Sale" section that averages about 50% of =
cars sold... it is in July (great time to take advantage of the summer =
weather)... I will say that any Magnetteer trying to sell their car at =
the Western Washington All British Field Meet will get a screaming good =
deal from the organizer... and full support and help from the =
organizer... and maybe even a free lunch (great bratwurst!)... all you =
have to do is show up at St. Edward State Park on Saturday, July 26th =
and tell them you know Steve H. and have a personal =
invite...</div><div><br></div><div>Steve =
H.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On=
 Jan 12, 2014, at 1:06 PM, John Park &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"font-family: =
'Century Gothic'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: =
normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; "><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Well I=92ve thought of the =
auction route but pretty much all of the bigger ones are several days =
drive away. To ship the car, especially at this time of year is into 4 =
figures and then there is the auction house fees which cut into the =
final sale price. So is it worth trying to go that route to =93establish=94=
 a value or just move the car for what you can get if you don=92t want =
to hang on for years until someone decides you do have a nice =
car?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125); ">&nbsp;</span></div><div><div style=3D"border-style: solid =
none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); =
padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[mailto:zmagnette-<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Steve =
Hanegan<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Sunday, January 12, 2014 =
3:24 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>List for the Z Magnette =
Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 =
MG Magnet 20000<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">This is a =
pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably not, but if it =
drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a good deal for the =
buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for this price, even =
if you are starting with a good solid car. I question whether there is a =
market that will step in and buy a car like this at this price. I am at =
a loss on how we as Magnette owners can create a market for good clean =
cars like this one. A &nbsp;Mk II Jag in this condition would have no =
problem reaching $30K - $35K at auction because of the reputation and =
mystique of Jaguar, though these prices have remained pretty constant =
over the past 10 years or so. Though it lacks the torquey 6 and top =
notch brakes of the Jag, the Magnette is still a very solid car with =
better than average handling characteristics and a very posh and cozy =
interior. I would speculate that having a few more "finished" cars sell, =
and perhaps, sell at one of the more prominent Auctions such as Barret =
Jackson, would &nbsp;increase the public awareness and demand for our =
cars. Without demand, there really isn't any value, and demand can't be =
built on $2K projects.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I am =
guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our cars - =
holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the market will =
come up far enough to make this more of a typical =
value.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">Steve H.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On =
Jan 12, 2014, at 10:54 AM, John Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Good car, good =
price if you cant do the work yourself. &nbsp;Even I don't think you =
could do one with you doing all the work =
today.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
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">Phil<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
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"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Begin =
forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
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">From:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Gary =
Sandusky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
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">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
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New Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: =
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20000</span></b><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
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style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">January 11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
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New Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: =
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style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Phil =
Marcell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; ">Take a look at this Magnet.<span =
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style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</a><br><br><br>Sent=
 from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
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From: Steve Hanegan <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:01:41 -0800

Oy! I would love nothing more than to have the money and space to buy a gaggle of Magnettes at what they are worth! Unfortunately... I have a son in College who plays the cello and a wife who doesn't care much for cars... (she drives a Prius)

Although you are right on the money when you note that sales drive prices! Flux capacitor indeed... I have a friend who has an MGB with a V8 who mounted an oil cooler right under the back bumper... calls it alternatively a diff cooler and a vortex minimizer... draws an AMAZING amount of questions and interest... I should say that he used to make his living selling AC stuff, so is well known to be full of.... ummm.... frijoles :-)

Steve H.

On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:31 PM, Steven Trovato <[email-masked]> wrote:

> There is only one way I can think of to "create a market" for cars like this.  Whenever one comes up for sale, buy it.  If a couple of you would like to get into a bidding war, that would help too!  As you said, without demand, there really isn't any value.  You're not going to create demand by holding out for high prices.  It might help if a Magnette played a prominent part in a movie or TV show.  It has to be something mainstream and popular though.  Maybe you could fit a flux capacitor, but 88 mph would be challenging without some modifications.
> 
> -Steve T.
> 
>> This is a pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably not, but if it drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a good deal for the buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for this price, even if you are starting with a good solid car. I question whether there is a market that will step in and buy a car like this at this price. I am at a loss on how we as Magnette owners can create a market for good clean cars like this one. A  Mk II Jag in this condition would have no problem reaching $30K - $35K at auction because of the reputation and mystique of Jaguar, though these prices have remained pretty constant over the past 10 years or so. Though it lacks the torquey 6 and top notch brakes of the Jag, the Magnette is still a very solid car with better than average handling characteristics and a very posh and cozy interior. I would speculate that having a few more "finished" cars sell, and perhaps, sell at one of the more prominent Auctions such as Barret Jackson, would  increase the public awareness and demand for our cars. Without demand, there really isn't any value, and demand can't be built on $2K projects.
>> 
>> I am guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our cars - holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the market will come up far enough to make this more of a typical value.
>> 
>> Steve H.
> 
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If anyone knows of someone looking for a restored one for that price =
range send them my way.  A/C & Supercharged, 1100 miles on restoration.  =
Would consider thinning my herd.

Phil

>> http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html
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send them my way. &nbsp;A/C &amp; Supercharged, 1100 miles on =
restoration. &nbsp;Would consider thinning my =
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From: "Steve Kirby" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:34:52 -0800

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regarding Steve's comments about the VW 23 window "busses".  Yes, the =
incredible, and very quick rise in prices, can be directly attributed to =
the day one sold at Barrett Jackson for (sit down, please), $197,000 + =
fees.  That one I saw, via TV, with my own two eyes.  I've since heard =
that at another sale, about a year later,  went $297,000 + fees.  That =
last one, I've only "heard", not confirmed, and somewhat doubt its =
truth.  Regardless, since then, "bus" prices have been ridiculous. =20

Listen and follow carefully:  It is to each of our best interests to =
drive up the price . . . . right?  So, think about your Magnette being =
worth say $45,000 at auction.  Easy enough.  There are how many in our =
group . . . about a hundred?  We each give Allen, or better yet ME!!!!, =
a donation of $500.  By advanced calculus, that's $50K.  Next decent one =
that comes up, I bid $50K.  Now, the market has been set at $50K, and it =
only cost you $500!!!!  Such a deal!!!!!  I'll even give you rides at =
the next NAMGAR event.

#2SteveK=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Steve Hanegan=20
  To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] 1958 MG Magnet 20000

  But, auctions DO tend to set "market values" and drive cars to a =
higher value. I have another friend who has an absolute jewell of a 1970 =
split bumper MGB. The evaluation guides, such as Sports Car Market, KBB =
Classic, Hagerty etc. indicate that this should be a $14K - $18K car. =
Advertising and trying to sell it around here at $10K, in winter, has =
resulted in not one single nibble. My suggestion would be to advertise =
the car to the widest audience possible and be patient. Websites such as =
The MG Experience, NAMGAR's website (and print) and NAMGBR's site point =
the car to the widest possible audience - of targeted buyers - folks who =
are already knowledgeable and interested in MGs, seems prudent. Showing =
the car at local British Car shows and at local club events and in local =
club newsletters can often be effective as well.

  We really do only have two options: either we establish a price that =
we would like to see for our car and be prepared to wait (maybe years) =
until some buyer agrees, or, find someone who is willing to buy the car =
and be prepared to accept whatever they offer for it. Sad choices =
indeed.

  Steve H.

    I am guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our =
cars - holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the =
market will come up far enough to make this more of a typical value.

    Steve H.

    On Jan 12, 2014, at 10:54 AM, John Marcell <[email-masked]> =
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      Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself.  Even I =
don't think you could do one with you doing all the work today.

      Phil

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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Yes, the auctions are an expensive way to sell a car. =
Getting a=20
  car registered, transportation and the fees charge to both the seller =
and the=20
  buyer are quite eye watering unless you have a highly sought after car =
such as=20
  a &nbsp;23 window VW van or a Ferrari or similar. I have a friend who =
has a=20
  very nice mid '90s Jag XJ6R. This is a <U>very</U> nice car, great =
condition,=20
  well looked after, runs perfectly etc. Mark took his car to a local =
"collector=20
  car" dealer who takes cars to local auctions. Mark ended up incurring =
about=20
  $1500 in fees trying to peddle the Jag at $10K - with no sale. The =
dealer=20
  charged $400 to "detail" a car that had just had an expensive detail =
just=20
  prior to it being listed added storage and "processing" fees etc.
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>But, auctions DO tend to set "market values" and drive cars to a =
higher=20
  value. I have another friend who has an absolute jewell of a 1970 =
split bumper=20
  MGB. The evaluation guides, such as Sports Car Market, KBB Classic, =
Hagerty=20
  etc. indicate that this should be a $14K - $18K car. Advertising and =
trying to=20
  sell it around here at $10K, in winter, has resulted in not one single =
nibble.=20
  My suggestion would be to advertise the car to the widest audience =
possible=20
  and be patient. Websites such as The MG Experience, NAMGAR's website =
(and=20
  print) and NAMGBR's site point the car to the widest possible audience =
- of=20
  targeted buyers - folks who are already knowledgeable and interested =
in MGs,=20
  seems prudent. Showing the car at local British Car shows and at local =
club=20
  events and in local club newsletters can often be effective as =
well.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>The biggest problem with Magnettes is A) the lack of "comps" and =
B)=20
  relatively few folks know what a good car they are - with a resulting =
lack of=20
  solid demand. I would hate to be the one to have to be the benchmark =
or=20
  trendsetter! I guess that part of our task as the leading Magnette =
support=20
  group would be to publicize the cars as much as possible (establishing =

  desirability) and to support and publicize any of the sales that =
result in an=20
  appropriate sale price and "real" value for the cars (helping to =
establish=20
  value). We should cheer and encourage every sale of $20K+ if that is =
the=20
  direction we would like to see values go. Even so, $20K isn't anywhere =
near=20
  what it takes to create a good solid "ready to drive" Magnette from =
some of=20
  the starting points that I see for sale. That being said, I would also =
point=20
  out that every time we see something that is for sale, we seem to =
knock it=20
  down on the details or price. The motivation for a seller is far =
different=20
  than that for a buyer. We should cheer every car that sells (cowboy =
blanket=20
  upholstery notwithstanding), because every one that does sell helps to =

  increase the value of our cars when It is time for us to sell. (Cowboy =
blanket=20
  sold for $12K - mine is "original" and "correct" for $20K and that is =
why you=20
  should buy it...)</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>We really do only have two options: either we establish a price =
that we=20
  would like to see for our car and be prepared to wait (maybe years) =
until some=20
  buyer agrees, or, find someone who is willing to buy the car and be =
prepared=20
  to accept whatever they offer for it. Sad choices indeed.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I do happen to know of a great British Car show with a great "Car =
for=20
  Sale" section that averages about 50% of cars sold... it is in July =
(great=20
  time to take advantage of the summer weather)... I will say that any=20
  Magnetteer trying to sell their car at the Western Washington All =
British=20
  Field Meet will get a screaming good deal from the organizer... and =
full=20
  support and help from the organizer... and maybe even a free lunch =
(great=20
  bratwurst!)... all you have to do is show up at St. Edward State Park =
on=20
  Saturday, July 26th and tell them you know Steve H. and have a =
personal=20
  invite...</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Steve H.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><BR>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:06 PM, John Park &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt; wrote:</DIV><BR=20
  class=3DApple-interchange-newline>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; FONT: =
medium 'Century Gothic'; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; =
LETTER-SPACING: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"=20
    lang=3DEN-US vlink=3D"purple" link=3D"blue">
    <DIV style=3D"page: WordSection1" class=3DWordSection1>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); =
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Well=20
    I=92ve thought of the auction route but pretty much all of the =
bigger ones are=20
    several days drive away. To ship the car, especially at this time of =
year is=20
    into 4 figures and then there is the auction house fees which cut =
into the=20
    final sale price. So is it worth trying to go that route to =
=93establish=94 a=20
    value or just move the car for what you can get if you don=92t want =
to hang on=20
    for years until someone decides you do have a nice=20
    car?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); =
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; =
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN=20
    class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN><A=20
    style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">zmagnette-bounces@autox.=
team.net</A><SPAN=20
    class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN>[mailto:zmagnette-<A=20
    style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>]<SPAN=20
    class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN=20
    class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN></B>Steve=20
    Hanegan<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN=20
    class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN>Sunday, January 12, 2014 =
3:24=20
    PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN =
class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN>List for the=20
    Z Magnette Group - North America<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN=20
    class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN>Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 =
MG Magnet=20
    20000<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This=20
    is a pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably not, =
but if it=20
    drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a good deal for =
the=20
    buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for this price, =
even if=20
    you are starting with a good solid car. I question whether there is =
a market=20
    that will step in and buy a car like this at this price. I am at a =
loss on=20
    how we as Magnette owners can create a market for good clean cars =
like this=20
    one. A &nbsp;Mk II Jag in this condition would have no problem =
reaching $30K=20
    - $35K at auction because of the reputation and mystique of Jaguar, =
though=20
    these prices have remained pretty constant over the past 10 years or =
so.=20
    Though it lacks the torquey 6 and top notch brakes of the Jag, the =
Magnette=20
    is still a very solid car with better than average handling =
characteristics=20
    and a very posh and cozy interior. I would speculate that having a =
few more=20
    "finished" cars sell, and perhaps, sell at one of the more prominent =

    Auctions such as Barret Jackson, would &nbsp;increase the public =
awareness=20
    and demand for our cars. Without demand, there really isn't any =
value, and=20
    demand can't be built on $2K projects.<O:P></O:P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I=20
    am guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our cars =
-=20
    holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the market =
will come=20
    up far enough to make this more of a typical =
value.<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Steve=20
    H.<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On=20
    Jan 12, 2014, at 10:54 AM, John Marcell &lt;<A=20
    style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;=20
    wrote:<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Good=20
      car, good price if you cant do the work yourself. &nbsp;Even I =
don't think=20
      you could do one with you doing all the work =
today.<O:P></O:P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Phil<O:P></O:P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Begin=20
      forwarded message:<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
        <DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">From:<SPAN=20
        class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">Gary=20
        Sandusky &lt;<A style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: =
underline"=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;</SPAN><O:P></O:=
P></DIV></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">Subject:=20
        1958 MG Magnet 20000</SPAN></B><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">Date:<SPAN=20
        class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">January=20
        11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">To:<SPAN=20
        class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN=20
        style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">Phil=20
        Marcell &lt;<A style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: =
underline"=20
        =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;</SPAN><O:P>=
</O:P></DIV></DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Take=20
        a look at this Magnet.<SPAN=20
        class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN><BR>Gary<BR><BR><A=20
        style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
        =
href=3D"http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html">http://dall=
as.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</A><BR><BR><BR>Sent=20
        from my iPhone<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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Last fall, during Hot August Nights, Barrett-Jackson held an auction =
here in Reno for the first time.  I hired on as a driver.  A fellow =
brought a 23 window bus from Arizona.  The one thing that BJ is =
stringent about is VIN numbers.  I saw cars turned away because the VIN =
Number plate rivets were suspicious.  Well, I was a part of the team =
that practically tore that bus apart.  No data plate, no way to confirm =
VIN.  BJ called the man and told him to pick up his bus.  Turns out =
during the restoration he removed the VW VIN and forgot to put it back. =
He called a guy from his shop who flew into Reno and they installed the =
plate.  The bus went for $135.000.

Gene
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Steve Kirby=20
  To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 2:34 PM
  Subject: [Zmagnette] NOW: how to set the market for our cars at $45K: =
EASY

  #2SteveK=20

"processing" fees etc.=20

    I do happen to know of a great British Car show with a great "Car =
for Sale" section that averages about 50% of cars sold... it is in July =
(great time to take advantage of the summer weather)... I will say that =
any Magnetteer trying to sell their car at the Western Washington All =
British Field Meet will get a screaming good deal from the organizer... =
and full support and help from the organizer... and maybe even a free =
lunch (great bratwurst!)... all you have to do is show up at St. Edward =
State Park on Saturday, July 26th and tell them you know Steve H. and =
have a personal invite...

    Steve H.

      Well I=92ve thought of the auction route but pretty much all of =
the bigger ones are several days drive away. To ship the car, especially =
at this time of year is into 4 figures and then there is the auction =
house fees which cut into the final sale price. So is it worth trying to =
go that route to =93establish=94 a value or just move the car for what =
you can get if you don=92t want to hang on for years until someone =
decides you do have a nice car?

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Last fall, during Hot August Nights,=20
Barrett-Jackson held an auction here in Reno for the first time.&nbsp; I =
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on as a driver.&nbsp; A fellow brought a 23 window bus from =
Arizona.&nbsp; The=20
one thing that BJ is stringent about is VIN numbers.&nbsp; I saw cars =
turned=20
away because the VIN Number plate rivets were suspicious.&nbsp; Well, I =
was a=20
part of the team that practically tore that bus apart.&nbsp; No data =
plate, no=20
way to confirm VIN.&nbsp; BJ called the man and told him to pick up his=20
bus.&nbsp; Turns out during the restoration he removed the VW VIN and =
forgot to=20
put it back. He called a guy from his shop who flew into Reno and they =
installed=20
the plate.&nbsp; The bus went for $135.000.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Gene</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=[email-masked] href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Steve =
Kirby</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
  href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">List for the Z Magnette Group =
- North=20
  America</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 12, 2014 =
2:34=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Zmagnette] NOW: how =
to set the=20
  market for our cars at $45K: EASY</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>regarding Steve's comments about the VW 23 window "busses".&nbsp; =
Yes,=20
  the incredible, and very quick rise in prices, can be directly =
attributed to=20
  the day one sold at Barrett Jackson for (sit down, please), $197,000 + =

  fees.&nbsp; That one I saw, via TV, with my own two eyes.&nbsp; I've =
since=20
  heard that at another sale, about a year later, &nbsp;went $297,000=20
  +&nbsp;fees.&nbsp; That last one, I've only "heard", not confirmed, =
and=20
  somewhat doubt its truth.&nbsp; Regardless, since then, "bus" prices =
have been=20
  ridiculous.&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Listen and follow carefully: &nbsp;It is to each of our best =
interests to=20
  drive up the price . . . . right?&nbsp; So, think about your Magnette =
being=20
  worth say $45,000 at auction.&nbsp; Easy enough.&nbsp; There are how =
many in=20
  our group . . . about a hundred?&nbsp; We each give Allen, or better =
yet=20
  ME!!!!, a donation of $500.&nbsp; By advanced calculus, that's =
$50K.&nbsp;=20
  Next decent one that comes up, I bid $50K.&nbsp; Now, the market has =
been set=20
  at $50K, and it only cost you $500!!!!&nbsp; Such a deal!!!!!&nbsp; =
I'll even=20
  give you rides at the next NAMGAR event.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>#2SteveK&nbsp;</DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE=20
  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; =
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=[email-masked]=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Steve Hanegan</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">List for the Z Magnette =
Group - North=20
    America</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 12, =
2014 1:53=20
    PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] 1958 =
MG Magnet=20
    20000</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>Yes, the auctions are an expensive way to sell a car. =
Getting=20
    a car registered, transportation and the fees charge to both the =
seller and=20
    the buyer are quite eye watering unless you have a highly sought =
after car=20
    such as a &nbsp;23 window VW van or a Ferrari or similar. I have a =
friend=20
    who has a very nice mid '90s Jag XJ6R. This is a <U>very</U> nice =
car, great=20
    condition, well looked after, runs perfectly etc. Mark took his car =
to a=20
    local "collector car" dealer who takes cars to local auctions. Mark =
ended up=20
    incurring about $1500 in fees trying to peddle the Jag at $10K - =
with no=20
    sale. The dealer charged $400 to "detail" a car that had just had an =

    expensive detail just prior to it being listed added storage and=20
    "processing" fees etc.=20
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>But, auctions DO tend to set "market values" and drive cars to =
a higher=20
    value. I have another friend who has an absolute jewell of a 1970 =
split=20
    bumper MGB. The evaluation guides, such as Sports Car Market, KBB =
Classic,=20
    Hagerty etc. indicate that this should be a $14K - $18K car. =
Advertising and=20
    trying to sell it around here at $10K, in winter, has resulted in =
not one=20
    single nibble. My suggestion would be to advertise the car to the =
widest=20
    audience possible and be patient. Websites such as The MG =
Experience,=20
    NAMGAR's website (and print) and NAMGBR's site point the car to the =
widest=20
    possible audience - of targeted buyers - folks who are already =
knowledgeable=20
    and interested in MGs, seems prudent. Showing the car at local =
British Car=20
    shows and at local club events and in local club newsletters can =
often be=20
    effective as well.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>The biggest problem with Magnettes is A) the lack of "comps" =
and B)=20
    relatively few folks know what a good car they are - with a =
resulting lack=20
    of solid demand. I would hate to be the one to have to be the =
benchmark or=20
    trendsetter! I guess that part of our task as the leading Magnette =
support=20
    group would be to publicize the cars as much as possible =
(establishing=20
    desirability) and to support and publicize any of the sales that =
result in=20
    an appropriate sale price and "real" value for the cars (helping to=20
    establish value). We should cheer and encourage every sale of $20K+ =
if that=20
    is the direction we would like to see values go. Even so, $20K isn't =

    anywhere near what it takes to create a good solid "ready to drive" =
Magnette=20
    from some of the starting points that I see for sale. That being =
said, I=20
    would also point out that every time we see something that is for =
sale, we=20
    seem to knock it down on the details or price. The motivation for a =
seller=20
    is far different than that for a buyer. We should cheer every car =
that sells=20
    (cowboy blanket upholstery notwithstanding), because every one that =
does=20
    sell helps to increase the value of our cars when It is time for us =
to sell.=20
    (Cowboy blanket sold for $12K - mine is "original" and "correct" for =
$20K=20
    and that is why you should buy it...)</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>We really do only have two options: either we establish a price =
that we=20
    would like to see for our car and be prepared to wait (maybe years) =
until=20
    some buyer agrees, or, find someone who is willing to buy the car =
and be=20
    prepared to accept whatever they offer for it. Sad choices =
indeed.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>I do happen to know of a great British Car show with a great =
"Car for=20
    Sale" section that averages about 50% of cars sold... it is in July =
(great=20
    time to take advantage of the summer weather)... I will say that any =

    Magnetteer trying to sell their car at the Western Washington All =
British=20
    Field Meet will get a screaming good deal from the organizer... and =
full=20
    support and help from the organizer... and maybe even a free lunch =
(great=20
    bratwurst!)... all you have to do is show up at St. Edward State =
Park on=20
    Saturday, July 26th and tell them you know Steve H. and have a =
personal=20
    invite...</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV>Steve H.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><BR>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:06 PM, John Park &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt; =
wrote:</DIV><BR=20
    class=3DApple-interchange-newline>
    <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; FONT: =
medium 'Century Gothic'; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; =
LETTER-SPACING: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px"=20
      lang=3DEN-US link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
      <DIV style=3D"page: WordSection1" class=3DWordSection1>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); =
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Well=20
      I=92ve thought of the auction route but pretty much all of the =
bigger ones=20
      are several days drive away. To ship the car, especially at this =
time of=20
      year is into 4 figures and then there is the auction house fees =
which cut=20
      into the final sale price. So is it worth trying to go that route =
to=20
      =93establish=94 a value or just move the car for what you can get =
if you don=92t=20
      want to hang on for years until someone decides you do have a nice =

      car?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); =
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM-STYLE: none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; =
BORDER-RIGHT-STYLE: none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; =
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PADDING-TOP: 3pt">
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
11pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
      style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN><A=20
      style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">zmagnette-bounces@autox.=
team.net</A><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN>[mailto:zmagnette-<A=20
      style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>]<SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN></B>Steve=20
      Hanegan<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN>Sunday, January 12, =
2014 3:24=20
      PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN =
class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN>List for=20
      the Z Magnette Group - North America<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN=20
      class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN>Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: =
1958 MG=20
      Magnet 20000<O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This=20
      is a pretty good looking car! Concours? Show Winner? Probably not, =
but if=20
      it drives as well as it looks, it certainly represents a good deal =
for the=20
      buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for this price, =
even if=20
      you are starting with a good solid car. I question whether there =
is a=20
      market that will step in and buy a car like this at this price. I =
am at a=20
      loss on how we as Magnette owners can create a market for good =
clean cars=20
      like this one. A &nbsp;Mk II Jag in this condition would have no =
problem=20
      reaching $30K - $35K at auction because of the reputation and =
mystique of=20
      Jaguar, though these prices have remained pretty constant over the =
past 10=20
      years or so. Though it lacks the torquey 6 and top notch brakes of =
the=20
      Jag, the Magnette is still a very solid car with better than =
average=20
      handling characteristics and a very posh and cozy interior. I =
would=20
      speculate that having a few more "finished" cars sell, and =
perhaps, sell=20
      at one of the more prominent Auctions such as Barret Jackson, =
would=20
      &nbsp;increase the public awareness and demand for our cars. =
Without=20
      demand, there really isn't any value, and demand can't be built on =
$2K=20
      projects.<O:P></O:P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I=20
      am guessing that a few more of us are going to need to sell our =
cars -=20
      holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the market =
will=20
      come up far enough to make this more of a typical=20
      value.<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Steve=20
      H.<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On=20
      Jan 12, 2014, at 10:54 AM, John Marcell &lt;<A=20
      style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;=20
      wrote:<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></DIV>
      <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
        <DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Good=20
        car, good price if you cant do the work yourself. &nbsp;Even I =
don't=20
        think you could do one with you doing all the work=20
        today.<O:P></O:P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Phil<O:P></O:P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV>
        <DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Begin=20
        forwarded message:<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
        <DIV=20
        style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></DIV>
        <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
          <DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">From:<SPAN=20
          class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">Gary=20
          Sandusky &lt;<A style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: =
underline"=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;</SPAN><O:P></O:=
P></DIV></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">Subject:=20
          1958 MG Magnet 20000</SPAN></B><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">Date:<SPAN=20
          class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">January=20
          11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST</SPAN><O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">To:<SPAN=20
          class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN=20
          style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: =
13.5pt">Phil=20
          Marcell &lt;<A style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: =
underline"=20
          =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;</SPAN><O:P>=
</O:P></DIV></DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></DIV>
          <DIV>
          <DIV=20
          style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Take=20
          a look at this Magnet.<SPAN=20
          class=3DApple-converted-space>&nbsp;</SPAN><BR>Gary<BR><BR><A=20
          style=3D"COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
          =
href=3D"http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html">http://dall=
as.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</A><BR><BR><BR>Sent=20
          from my iPhone<O:P></O:P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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From: "Wayne & Isabel Hardy" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:44:28 -0600

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I hope he gets every penny of the asking $29 Gs. Looks just like my car =
so there we have a price on Maroon ZBs.

Wombat.

From: John Park=20
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:06 PM
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'=20
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet 20000

Well I=E2=80=99ve thought of the auction route but pretty much all of =
the bigger ones are several days drive away. To ship the car, especially =
at this time of year is into 4 figures and then there is the auction =
house fees which cut into the final sale price. So is it worth trying to =
go that route to =E2=80=9Cestablish=E2=80=9D a value or just move the =
car for what you can get if you don=E2=80=99t want to hang on for years =
until someone decides you do have a nice car?

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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I hope he gets every penny of the asking $29 Gs. =
Looks just=20
like my car so there we have a price on Maroon ZBs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Wombat.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">John Park</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">'List for the Z Magnette Group =
- North=20
America'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet =
20000</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
#1f497d'>Well=20
I=E2=80=99ve thought of the auction route but pretty much all of the =
bigger ones are=20
several days drive away. To ship the car, especially at this time of =
year is=20
into 4 figures and then there is the auction house fees which cut into =
the final=20
sale price. So is it worth trying to go that route to =
=E2=80=9Cestablish=E2=80=9D a value or=20
just move the car for what you can get if you don=E2=80=99t want to hang =
on for years=20
until someone decides you do have a nice car?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial","sans-serif"; COLOR: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
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"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri","sans-serif"'>=20
[email-masked] =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On=20
Behalf Of </B>Steve Hanegan<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, January 12, 2014 =
3:24=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> List for the Z Magnette Group - North=20
America<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet=20
20000<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>This is a pretty good looking car! Concours? Show =
Winner?=20
Probably not, but if it drives as well as it looks, it certainly =
represents a=20
good deal for the buyer. You certainly could not build one like this for =
this=20
price, even if you are starting with a good solid car. I question =
whether there=20
is a market that will step in and buy a car like this at this price. I =
am at a=20
loss on how we as Magnette owners can create a market for good clean =
cars like=20
this one. A&nbsp; Mk II Jag in this condition would have no problem =
reaching=20
$30K - $35K at auction because of the reputation and mystique of Jaguar, =
though=20
these prices have remained pretty constant over the past 10 years or so. =
Though=20
it lacks the torquey 6 and top notch brakes of the Jag, the Magnette is =
still a=20
very solid car with better than average handling characteristics and a =
very posh=20
and cozy interior. I would speculate that having a few more "finished" =
cars=20
sell, and perhaps, sell at one of the more prominent Auctions such as =
Barret=20
Jackson, would&nbsp; increase the public awareness and demand for our =
cars.=20
Without demand, there really isn't any value, and demand can't be built =
on $2K=20
projects.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>I am guessing that a few more of us are going to =
need to sell=20
our cars - holding out for prices like this one or higher - before the =
market=20
will come up far enough to make this more of a typical=20
value.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Steve H.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>On Jan 12, 2014, at 10:54 AM, John Marcell &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Good car, good price if you cant do the work=20
  yourself.&nbsp; Even I don't think you could do one with you doing all =
the=20
  work today.<o:p></o:p></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Phil<o:p></o:p></P>
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
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"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From:=20
    </SPAN></B><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Gary=20
    Sandusky &lt;<A=20
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;</SPAN><o:p></o:=
p></P></DIV>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Subject:=20
    1958 MG Magnet 20000</SPAN></B><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Date:=20
    </SPAN></B><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>January 11,=20
    2014 9:34:04 PM CST</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>To:=20
    </SPAN></B><SPAN=20
    style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Phil=20
    Marcell &lt;<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;</SPAN><o:p>=
</o:p></P></DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal>Take a look at this Magnet. <BR>Gary<BR><BR><A=20
    =
href=3D"http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html">http://dall=
as.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</A><BR><BR><BR>Sent=20
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From: John <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 18:46:37 -0500

I wouldn't wait for the next decent one to come up.  Let's have Allen auction his... Let's have Steve K buy it with a large loan.  Alan then buys it back for whatever Steve K paid for it... And then even though Steve K is out the commission his Magnette is now worth X dollars more.

If you people don't try it with the Z Series I'm going to do it for sure with the rare Pinninfarina "Ferarri Style"Magnette 
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ahhhhh . . . . but I'm trying to raise the market price of ALL =
Magnettes, but it's a good start!
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: John=20
  To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20
  Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 3:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] NOW: how to set the market for our cars at =
$45K:EASY

  I wouldn't wait for the next decent one to come up.  Let's have Allen =
auction his... Let's have Steve K buy it with a large loan.  Alan then =
buys it back for whatever Steve K paid for it... And then even though =
Steve K is out the commission his Magnette is now worth X dollars more.

  If you people don't try it with the Z Series I'm going to do it for =
sure with the rare Pinninfarina "Ferarri Style"Magnette=20
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<DIV>ahhhhh . . . . but I'm trying to raise the market price of ALL =
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>I wouldn't wait for the next decent one to come =
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  have Allen auction his... Let's have Steve K buy it with a large =
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