Subject: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet 20000 <[email-masked]> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>

From: John Marcell <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 17:50:51 -0600

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> From: John Marcell <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet	 20000
> Date: January 12, 2014 4:24:27 PM CST
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America =
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> Reply-To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America =
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> If anyone knows of someone looking for a restored one for that price =
range send them my way.  A/C & Supercharged, 1100 miles on restoration.  =
Would consider thinning my herd.
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> Phil
> On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:54 PM, John Marcell <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>> Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself.  Even I don't =
think you could do one with you doing all the work today.
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>> Phil
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>>> From: Gary Sandusky <[email-masked]>
>>> Subject: 1958 MG Magnet	 20000
>>> Date: January 11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST
>>> To: Phil Marcell <[email-masked]>
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>>> Take a look at this Magnet.=20
>>> Gary
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>>> http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html
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>>> Sent from my iPhone
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"><br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">John Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></=
div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;"><b>Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet	 =
20000</b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, =
1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">January 12, 2014 4:24:27 PM CST<br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">List for the Z =
Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, =
1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">List for the Z Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br></span></div><br><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html=
 charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">If =
anyone knows of someone looking for a restored one for that price range =
send them my way. &nbsp;A/C &amp; Supercharged, 1100 miles on =
restoration. &nbsp;Would consider thinning my =
herd.<div><br></div><div>Phil<br><div><div>On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:54 PM, =
John Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Good =
car, good price if you cant do the work yourself. &nbsp;Even I don't =
think you could do one with you doing all the work =
today.<div><br></div><div>Phil<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded =
message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>From: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Gary Sandusky =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></div>=
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; "><b>Subject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;"><b>1958 MG Magnet	 20000</b><br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; "><b>Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">January 11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST<br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; "><b>To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">Phil Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></=
div><br><div>Take a look at this Magnet. <br>Gary<br><br><a =
href=3D"http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html">http://dalla=
s.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</a><br><br><br>Sent from my =
iPhone<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>_______________________=
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From: James Schulte <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 21:38:15 -0500

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Remember, mine is for sale for a hell of a lot less. (((-'
Jim
58 ZB w/1830 67 B engine and T 35 Borg Warner automatic.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 12, 2014, at 6:50 PM, John Marcell <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
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> Begin forwarded message:
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>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <[email-masked]=
et>
>> Reply-To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette@autox.=
team.net>
>>=20
>> If anyone knows of someone looking for a restored one for that price rang=
e send them my way.  A/C & Supercharged, 1100 miles on restoration.  Would c=
onsider thinning my herd.
>>> Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself.  Even I don't thi=
nk you could do one with you doing all the work today.
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/mg19=
[email-masked]
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Remember, mine is for sale for a hell o=
f a lot less. (((-'</div><div>Jim</div><div>58 ZB w/1830 67 B engine and T 3=
5 Borg Warner automatic.<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jan 12, 2=
014, at 6:50 PM, John Marcell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mg19=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><m=
eta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dus-ascii"><br=
><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-=
newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-rig=
ht: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'=
Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span=
><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">John Marcell &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span>=
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; m=
argin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; c=
olor:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:=
'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet	 20=
000</b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; ma=
rgin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica';=
 font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">January 12, 2014 4:24:27 PM=
 CST<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margi=
n-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; fo=
nt-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style=3D"=
font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">List for the Z Magnette Group - N=
orth America &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">zmagnette@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt;<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-righ=
t: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'H=
elvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></s=
pan><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">List for the Z=
 Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></div><br><meta http-equiv=3D=
"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-w=
rap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-s=
pace; ">If anyone knows of someone looking for a restored one for that price=
 range send them my way. &nbsp;A/C &amp; Supercharged, 1100 miles on restora=
tion. &nbsp;Would consider thinning my herd.<div><br></div><div>Phil<br><div=
><div>On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:54 PM, John Marcell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:MG194=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-int=
erchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type=
" content=3D"text/html charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-wo=
rd; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Good c=
ar, good price if you cant do the work yourself. &nbsp;Even I don't think yo=
u could do one with you doing all the work today.<div><br></div><div>Phil<br=
><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-=
newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-rig=
ht: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: H=
elvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Gary Sandusky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gary@s=
andusky.cc">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-to=
p: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>Subject: </b></span><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>1958 MG Magnet=
	 20000</b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px=
; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helveti=
ca; font-size: medium; "><b>Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Hel=
vetica'; font-size:medium;">January 11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST<br></span></div>=
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-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>=
To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Ph=
il Marcell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;<br></span></div><br><div>Take a look at this Magnet. <br>Gary<br><br><a h=
ref=3D"http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html">http://dallas.c=
raigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</a><br><br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br>=
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From: Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 00:26:51 -0500

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Ah... but Jim, shouldn't your's be priced somewhere over $20K?  John =
Park, I know you're tired of trying to sell your car in this price =
range, and both of you have my compassion.  Ultimately, yes, the =
customer is always right and we cannot get higher prices for our cars =
than folks are willing to pay.  But... we can set some ground rules.  We =
can tell the buying public that our restored cars cannot be had for less =
than, say, $20K, or $25K if you please.  If somebody wants a restored Z =
Magnette, that's the price. Period!  Of course I'm NOT suggesting that =
we coerce each-other into holding out for higher prices. Those of us who =
are selling have highly personal reasons for doing so and we cannot =
stand here saying that members cannot sell their cars for less than $???

Whether justified or not, my wife thinks I quit counting after $10K for =
my paintwork.  Truth is I quit counting after $16K.  In addition, I have =
thousands "invested" in parts for work I did on my own plus upholstery, =
which I hired out.  I started out with a $4K car and I've spent well =
over $20K more to get the car where I want it. How well I succeeded is a =
very personal matter until I put the car up for sale.  I did the work =
without concern for value gained vs. money spent: I built the car for =
myself. I haven't kept tabs, but my expenditure has got to approach $25K =
plus whatever value my time has. The same hundreds of hours spent =
teaching music would yield far more than I could ever expect to get for =
the car.  The answer is the same as what we've been telling each-other =
for years: "investment" is an inappropriate term as it implies the =
expectation of a profit.  We build these restorations for the =
self-satisfaction derived from doing our best, and we enjoy sharing our =
pride-and-joys with our MG friends.  Sales prices will not be a return =
on that "investment"; it will be a "salvage residual" remaining after we =
have derived the pleasure we hoped for in the restoration and showing =
process.  And what about the learning we acquired in that process?  Was =
that tuition-free?  Of course not.  The ultimate pleasure from any =
hobby, or from the pursuit of art itself comes in doing something as =
well as possible without regard for the marketplace.  The marketplace =
may charge us heavily for our experience, but isn't it worth it?  We are =
not in this hobby to make money!

If somebody wants to buy my car, the asking price will be about $30K, =
the negotiated price may be between $25 and $28K, depending on my mood =
and level of desperation. Those of you who have seen my car might have =
different opinions, but that's where I stand. With reasonable luck, =
these will be but instructions to my executor. But at that point, I'll =
be gone and won't care. I will instruct my executor to refrain from =
diluting the Magnette market with a sub-priced car. Beyond that, I have =
no control...

Cheers,
Allen
****************************************************************
Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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>>> Phil
>>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:54 PM, John Marcell <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself.  Even I =
don't think you could do one with you doing all the work today.
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ah... =
but Jim, shouldn't your's be priced somewhere over $20K? &nbsp;John =
Park, I know you're tired of trying to sell your car in this price =
range, and both of you have my compassion. &nbsp;Ultimately, yes, the =
customer is always right and we cannot get higher prices for our cars =
than folks are willing to pay. &nbsp;But... we can set some ground =
rules. &nbsp;We can tell the buying public that our restored cars cannot =
be had for less than, say, $20K, or $25K if you please. &nbsp;If =
somebody wants a restored Z Magnette, that's the price. Period! &nbsp;Of =
course I'm NOT suggesting that we coerce each-other into holding out for =
higher prices. Those of us who are selling have highly personal reasons =
for doing so and we cannot stand here saying that members cannot sell =
their cars for less than $???<div><br></div><div>Whether justified or =
not, my wife thinks I quit counting after $10K for my paintwork. =
&nbsp;Truth is I quit counting after $16K. &nbsp;In addition, I have =
thousands "invested" in parts for work I did on my own plus upholstery, =
which I hired out. &nbsp;I started out with a $4K car and I've spent =
well over $20K more to get the car where I want it. How well I succeeded =
is a very personal matter until I put the car up for sale. &nbsp;I did =
the work without concern for value gained vs. money spent: I built the =
car for myself. I haven't kept tabs, but my expenditure has got to =
approach $25K plus whatever value my time has. The same hundreds of =
hours spent teaching music would yield far more than I could ever expect =
to get for the car. &nbsp;The answer is the same as what we've been =
telling each-other for years: "investment" is an inappropriate term as =
it implies the expectation of a profit. &nbsp;We build these =
restorations for the self-satisfaction derived from doing our best, and =
we enjoy sharing our pride-and-joys with our MG friends. &nbsp;Sales =
prices will not be a return on that "investment"; it will be a "salvage =
residual" remaining after we have derived the pleasure we hoped for in =
the restoration and showing process. &nbsp;And what about the learning =
we acquired in that process? &nbsp;Was that tuition-free? &nbsp;Of =
course not. &nbsp;The ultimate pleasure from any hobby, or from the =
pursuit of art itself comes in doing something as well as possible =
without regard for the marketplace. &nbsp;The marketplace may charge us =
heavily for our experience, but isn't it worth it? &nbsp;We are not in =
this hobby to make money!</div><div><br></div><div>If somebody wants to =
buy my car, the asking price will be about $30K, the negotiated price =
may be between $25 and $28K, depending on my mood and level of =
desperation. Those of you who have seen my car might have different =
opinions, but that's where I stand. With reasonable luck, these will be =
but instructions to my executor. But at that point, I'll be gone and =
won't care. I will instruct my executor to refrain from diluting the =
Magnette market with a sub-priced car. Beyond that, I have no =
control...</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Allen</div><div><div=
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<br><div><div>On Jan 12, 2014, at 9:38 PM, James Schulte wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><meta =
http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div =
dir=3D"auto"><div>Remember, mine is for sale for a hell of a lot less. =
(((-'</div><div>Jim</div><div>58 ZB w/1830 67 B engine and T 35 Borg =
Warner automatic.<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jan 12, =
2014, at 6:50 PM, John Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"><br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">John Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></=
div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;"><b>Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet	 =
20000</b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, =
1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">January 12, 2014 4:24:27 PM CST<br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">List for the Z =
Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, =
1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">List for the Z Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br></span></div><br><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html=
 charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">If =
anyone knows of someone looking for a restored one for that price range =
send them my way. &nbsp;A/C &amp; Supercharged, 1100 miles on =
restoration. &nbsp;Would consider thinning my =
herd.<div><br></div><div>Phil<br><div><div>On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:54 PM, =
John Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Good =
car, good price if you cant do the work yourself. &nbsp;Even I don't =
think you could do one with you doing all the work =
today.<div><br></div><div>Phil<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded =
message:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: medium; "><b>From: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Gary Sandusky =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></div>=
<div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; "><b>Subject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;"><b>1958 MG Magnet	 20000</b><br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; "><b>Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">January 11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST<br></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: =
medium; "><b>To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">Phil Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></=
div><br><div>Take a look at this Magnet. <br>Gary<br><br><a =
href=3D"http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html">http://dalla=
s.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</a><br><br><br>Sent from my =
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I would love to get true value out of my Magnette but the reality is supply a=
nd demand. There is little demand for our model therefore the sale prices re=
flect it. Put someone of fame into our treasure and create a demand. Create s=
ome over whelming publicity and people will take an interest in it. Until th=
en keep driving the beauties or sell them for well under what they are worth=
. Thar is reality.
Jim

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 13, 2014, at 12:26 AM, Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
> Ah... but Jim, shouldn't your's be priced somewhere over $20K?  John Park,=
 I know you're tired of trying to sell your car in this price range, and bot=
h of you have my compassion.  Ultimately, yes, the customer is always right a=
nd we cannot get higher prices for our cars than folks are willing to pay.  B=
ut... we can set some ground rules.  We can tell the buying public that our r=
estored cars cannot be had for less than, say, $20K, or $25K if you please. =
 If somebody wants a restored Z Magnette, that's the price. Period!  Of cour=
se I'm NOT suggesting that we coerce each-other into holding out for higher p=
rices. Those of us who are selling have highly personal reasons for doing so=
 and we cannot stand here saying that members cannot sell their cars for les=
s than $???
>=20
> Whether justified or not, my wife thinks I quit counting after $10K for my=
 paintwork.  Truth is I quit counting after $16K.  In addition, I have thous=
ands "invested" in parts for work I did on my own plus upholstery, which I h=
ired out.  I started out with a $4K car and I've spent well over $20K more t=
o get the car where I want it. How well I succeeded is a very personal matte=
r until I put the car up for sale.  I did the work without concern for value=
 gained vs. money spent: I built the car for myself. I haven't kept tabs, bu=
t my expenditure has got to approach $25K plus whatever value my time has. T=
he same hundreds of hours spent teaching music would yield far more than I c=
ould ever expect to get for the car.  The answer is the same as what we've b=
een telling each-other for years: "investment" is an inappropriate term as i=
t implies the expectation of a profit.  We build these restorations for the s=
elf-satisfaction derived from doing our best, and we enjoy sharing our pride=
-and-joys with our MG friends.  Sales prices will not be a return on that "i=
nvestment"; it will be a "salvage residual" remaining after we have derived t=
he pleasure we hoped for in the restoration and showing process.  And what a=
bout the learning we acquired in that process?  Was that tuition-free?  Of c=
ourse not.  The ultimate pleasure from any hobby, or from the pursuit of art=
 itself comes in doing something as well as possible without regard for the m=
arketplace.  The marketplace may charge us heavily for our experience, but i=
sn't it worth it?  We are not in this hobby to make money!
>=20
> If somebody wants to buy my car, the asking price will be about $30K, the n=
egotiated price may be between $25 and $28K, depending on my mood and level o=
f desperation. Those of you who have seen my car might have different opinio=
ns, but that's where I stand. With reasonable luck, these will be but instru=
ctions to my executor. But at that point, I'll be gone and won't care. I wil=
l instruct my executor to refrain from diluting the Magnette market with a s=
ub-priced car. Beyond that, I have no control...
>>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <[email-masked]=
.net>
>>>> Reply-To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette@auto=
x.team.net>
>>>>=20
>>>> If anyone knows of someone looking for a restored one for that price ra=
nge send them my way.  A/C & Supercharged, 1100 miles on restoration.  Would=
 consider thinning my herd.
>>>>=20
>>>> Phil
>>>>> On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:54 PM, John Marcell <[email-masked]> wrote:=

>>>>>=20
>>>>> Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself.  Even I don't t=
hink you could do one with you doing all the work today.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I would love to get true value out of m=
y Magnette but the reality is supply and demand. There is little demand for o=
ur model therefore the sale prices reflect it. Put someone of fame into our t=
reasure and create a demand. Create some over whelming publicity and people w=
ill take an interest in it. Until then keep driving the beauties or sell the=
m for well under what they are worth. Thar is reality.</div><div>Jim<br><br>=
Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jan 13, 2014, at 12:26 AM, Allen Bachelde=
r &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Ah... but Jim, shouldn't y=
our's be priced somewhere over $20K? &nbsp;John Park, I know you're tired of=
 trying to sell your car in this price range, and both of you have my compas=
sion. &nbsp;Ultimately, yes, the customer is always right and we cannot get h=
igher prices for our cars than folks are willing to pay. &nbsp;But... we can=
 set some ground rules. &nbsp;We can tell the buying public that our restore=
d cars cannot be had for less than, say, $20K, or $25K if you please. &nbsp;=
If somebody wants a restored Z Magnette, that's the price. Period! &nbsp;Of c=
ourse I'm NOT suggesting that we coerce each-other into holding out for high=
er prices. Those of us who are selling have highly personal reasons for doin=
g so and we cannot stand here saying that members cannot sell their cars for=
 less than $???<div><br></div><div>Whether justified or not, my wife thinks I=
 quit counting after $10K for my paintwork. &nbsp;Truth is I quit counting a=
fter $16K. &nbsp;In addition, I have thousands "invested" in parts for work I=
 did on my own plus upholstery, which I hired out. &nbsp;I started out with a=
 $4K car and I've spent well over $20K more to get the car where I want it. H=
ow well I succeeded is a very personal matter until I put the car up for sal=
e. &nbsp;I did the work without concern for value gained vs. money spent: I b=
uilt the car for myself. I haven't kept tabs, but my expenditure has got to a=
pproach $25K plus whatever value my time has. The same hundreds of hours spe=
nt teaching music would yield far more than I could ever expect to get for t=
he car. &nbsp;The answer is the same as what we've been telling each-other f=
or years: "investment" is an inappropriate term as it implies the expectatio=
n of a profit. &nbsp;We build these restorations for the self-satisfaction d=
erived from doing our best, and we enjoy sharing our pride-and-joys with our=
 MG friends. &nbsp;Sales prices will not be a return on that "investment"; i=
t will be a "salvage residual" remaining after we have derived the pleasure w=
e hoped for in the restoration and showing process. &nbsp;And what about the=
 learning we acquired in that process? &nbsp;Was that tuition-free? &nbsp;Of=
 course not. &nbsp;The ultimate pleasure from any hobby, or from the pursuit=
 of art itself comes in doing something as well as possible without regard f=
or the marketplace. &nbsp;The marketplace may charge us heavily for our expe=
rience, but isn't it worth it? &nbsp;We are not in this hobby to make money!=
</div><div><br></div><div>If somebody wants to buy my car, the asking price w=
ill be about $30K, the negotiated price may be between $25 and $28K, dependi=
ng on my mood and level of desperation. Those of you who have seen my car mi=
ght have different opinions, but that's where I stand. With reasonable luck,=
 these will be but instructions to my executor. But at that point, I'll be g=
one and won't care. I will instruct my executor to refrain from diluting the=
 Magnette market with a sub-priced car. Beyond that, I have no control...</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Allen</div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>On Jan 12, 2014, at 9:38 PM, James Schulte wrote:</div><br cla=
ss=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D=
"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div dir=3D"auto"><div=
>Remember, mine is for sale for a hell of a lot less. (((-'</div><div>Jim</d=
iv><div>58 ZB w/1830 67 B engine and T 35 Borg Warner automatic.<br><br>Sent=
 from my iPad</div><div><br>On Jan 12, 2014, at 6:50 PM, John Marcell &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" cont=
ent=3D"text/html charset=3Dus-ascii"><br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded messa=
ge:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-=
left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:=
rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helveti=
ca'; font-size:medium;">John Marcell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px;=
 margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subje=
ct: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b=
>Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet	 20000</b><br></span></div><div sty=
le=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0=
px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0,=
 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; fo=
nt-size:medium;">January 12, 2014 4:24:27 PM CST<br></span></div><div style=3D=
"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;">=
<span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0=
, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size=
:medium;">List for the Z Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></span></div=
><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margi=
n-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; colo=
r:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'H=
elvetica'; font-size:medium;">List for the Z Magnette Group - North America &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;<br></span></div><br><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/ht=
ml charset=3Dus-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mod=
e: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">If anyone knows of someon=
e looking for a restored one for that price range send them my way. &nbsp;A/=
C &amp; Supercharged, 1100 miles on restoration. &nbsp;Would consider thinni=
ng my herd.<div><br></div><div>Phil<br><div><div>On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:54 P=
M, John Marcell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html charset=3D=
us-ascii"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -we=
bkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Good car, good price if you cant do th=
e work yourself. &nbsp;Even I don't think you could do one with you doing al=
l the work today.<div><br></div><div>Phil<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded m=
essage:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; mar=
gin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; ">=
<b>From: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium=
;">Gary Sandusky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; marg=
in-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; fo=
nt-size: medium; "><b>Subject: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvet=
ica'; font-size:medium;"><b>1958 MG Magnet	 20000</b><br></span></div>=
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Take a look at this Magnet. <br>Gary<br><br><a href=3D"http://dallas.craigsl=
ist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html">http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/428177=
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From: "John Park" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 19:03:58 -0500

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Allen, Do you know if John Drake sold his Magnette? It was advertised for
several months a while back. He was looking for around $25,000. John

From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 12:27 AM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet 20000

Ah... but Jim, shouldn't your's be priced somewhere over $20K?  John Park, I
know you're tired of trying to sell your car in this price range, and both
of you have my compassion.  Ultimately, yes, the customer is always right
and we cannot get higher prices for our cars than folks are willing to pay.
But... we can set some ground rules.  We can tell the buying public that our
restored cars cannot be had for less than, say, $20K, or $25K if you please.
If somebody wants a restored Z Magnette, that's the price. Period!  Of
course I'm NOT suggesting that we coerce each-other into holding out for
higher prices. Those of us who are selling have highly personal reasons for
doing so and we cannot stand here saying that members cannot sell their cars
for less than $???

Whether justified or not, my wife thinks I quit counting after $10K for my
paintwork.  Truth is I quit counting after $16K.  In addition, I have
thousands "invested" in parts for work I did on my own plus upholstery,
which I hired out.  I started out with a $4K car and I've spent well over
$20K more to get the car where I want it. How well I succeeded is a very
personal matter until I put the car up for sale.  I did the work without
concern for value gained vs. money spent: I built the car for myself. I
haven't kept tabs, but my expenditure has got to approach $25K plus whatever
value my time has. The same hundreds of hours spent teaching music would
yield far more than I could ever expect to get for the car.  The answer is
the same as what we've been telling each-other for years: "investment" is an
inappropriate term as it implies the expectation of a profit.  We build
these restorations for the self-satisfaction derived from doing our best,
and we enjoy sharing our pride-and-joys with our MG friends.  Sales prices
will not be a return on that "investment"; it will be a "salvage residual"
remaining after we have derived the pleasure we hoped for in the restoration
and showing process.  And what about the learning we acquired in that
process?  Was that tuition-free?  Of course not.  The ultimate pleasure from
any hobby, or from the pursuit of art itself comes in doing something as
well as possible without regard for the marketplace.  The marketplace may
charge us heavily for our experience, but isn't it worth it?  We are not in
this hobby to make money!

If somebody wants to buy my car, the asking price will be about $30K, the
negotiated price may be between $25 and $28K, depending on my mood and level
of desperation. Those of you who have seen my car might have different
opinions, but that's where I stand. With reasonable luck, these will be but
instructions to my executor. But at that point, I'll be gone and won't care.
I will instruct my executor to refrain from diluting the Magnette market
with a sub-priced car. Beyond that, I have no control...

Cheers,

Allen

Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs

Jim

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 12, 2014, at 6:50 PM, John Marcell <[email-masked]

Begin forwarded message:

To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <[email-masked]

If anyone knows of someone looking for a restored one for that price range
send them my way.  A/C & Supercharged, 1100 miles on restoration.  Would
consider thinning my herd.

Phil

On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:54 PM, John Marcell <[email-masked]

Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself.  Even I don't think
you could do one with you doing all the work today.

Phil

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Take a look at this Magnet. 
Gary

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>Allen, Do you know if John Drake sold his Magnette? It was advertised =
for several months a while back. He was looking for around $25,000. =
John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span=
></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> =
[email-masked] =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen =
Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 13, 2014 12:27 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North =
America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet =
20000<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ah... but =
Jim, shouldn't your's be priced somewhere over $20K? &nbsp;John Park, I =
know you're tired of trying to sell your car in this price range, and =
both of you have my compassion. &nbsp;Ultimately, yes, the customer is =
always right and we cannot get higher prices for our cars than folks are =
willing to pay. &nbsp;But... we can set some ground rules. &nbsp;We can =
tell the buying public that our restored cars cannot be had for less =
than, say, $20K, or $25K if you please. &nbsp;If somebody wants a =
restored Z Magnette, that's the price. Period! &nbsp;Of course I'm NOT =
suggesting that we coerce each-other into holding out for higher prices. =
Those of us who are selling have highly personal reasons for doing so =
and we cannot stand here saying that members cannot sell their cars for =
less than $???<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Whether justified or not, my wife thinks I quit =
counting after $10K for my paintwork. &nbsp;Truth is I quit counting =
after $16K. &nbsp;In addition, I have thousands &quot;invested&quot; in =
parts for work I did on my own plus upholstery, which I hired out. =
&nbsp;I started out with a $4K car and I've spent well over $20K more to =
get the car where I want it. How well I succeeded is a very personal =
matter until I put the car up for sale. &nbsp;I did the work without =
concern for value gained vs. money spent: I built the car for myself. I =
haven't kept tabs, but my expenditure has got to approach $25K plus =
whatever value my time has. The same hundreds of hours spent teaching =
music would yield far more than I could ever expect to get for the car. =
&nbsp;The answer is the same as what we've been telling each-other for =
years: &quot;investment&quot; is an inappropriate term as it implies the =
expectation of a profit. &nbsp;We build these restorations for the =
self-satisfaction derived from doing our best, and we enjoy sharing our =
pride-and-joys with our MG friends. &nbsp;Sales prices will not be a =
return on that &quot;investment&quot;; it will be a &quot;salvage =
residual&quot; remaining after we have derived the pleasure we hoped for =
in the restoration and showing process. &nbsp;And what about the =
learning we acquired in that process? &nbsp;Was that tuition-free? =
&nbsp;Of course not. &nbsp;The ultimate pleasure from any hobby, or from =
the pursuit of art itself comes in doing something as well as possible =
without regard for the marketplace. &nbsp;The marketplace may charge us =
heavily for our experience, but isn't it worth it? &nbsp;We are not in =
this hobby to make money!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If somebody wants to buy my car, the asking price will =
be about $30K, the negotiated price may be between $25 and $28K, =
depending on my mood and level of desperation. Those of you who have =
seen my car might have different opinions, but that's where I stand. =
With reasonable luck, these will be but instructions to my executor. But =
at that point, I'll be gone and won't care. I will instruct my executor =
to refrain from diluting the Magnette market with a sub-priced car. =
Beyond that, I have no control...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Allen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>****************************************************************</span>=
</i></b></span><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
=3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
/div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><a =
href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs">http://www.mgexperie=
nce.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><span =
class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><d=
iv><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>****************************************************************</span>=
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Jan 12, 2014, at 9:38 PM, James Schulte wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Remember, mine is for sale for a hell of a lot less. =
(((-'<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Jim<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>58 =
ZB w/1830 67 B engine and T 35 Borg Warner automatic.<br><br>Sent from =
my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Jan 12, 2014, at 6:50 PM, John =
Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Begin =
forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>John =
Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Subject: =
Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet =
20000</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Date: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>January =
12, 2014 4:24:27 PM CST</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>To: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>List for =
the Z Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Reply-To:=
 </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>List for =
the Z Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>If =
anyone knows of someone looking for a restored one for that price range =
send them my way. &nbsp;A/C &amp; Supercharged, 1100 miles on =
restoration. &nbsp;Would consider thinning my =
herd.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Phil<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Jan 12, 2014, at 12:54 PM, John Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Good car, good price if you cant do the work yourself. =
&nbsp;Even I don't think you could do one with you doing all the work =
today.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Phil<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Begin =
forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Gary =
Sandusky &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Subject: =
1958 MG Magnet 20000</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Date: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>January =
11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>To: =
</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Phil =
Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Take a look at this Magnet. <br>Gary<br><br><a =
href=3D"http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html">http://dall=
as.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</a><br><br><br>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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From: Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]>
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Hi John,

My only "knowledge" is what I've heard on the rumor mill, and that is =
that he did sell it - and for close to his asking price. Perhaps =
somebody else who knows more will speak up. You have a beautiful car - =
is it just a matter of waiting for the right buyer to come along?

Cheers,
Allen

> Allen, Do you know if John Drake sold his Magnette? It was advertised =
for several months a while back. He was looking for around $25,000. John
> =20
> From: [email-masked] =
> =20
> Whether justified or not, my wife thinks I quit counting after $10K =
for my paintwork.  Truth is I quit counting after $16K.  In addition, I =
have thousands "invested" in parts for work I did on my own plus =
upholstery, which I hired out.  I started out with a $4K car and I've =
spent well over $20K more to get the car where I want it. How well I =
succeeded is a very personal matter until I put the car up for sale.  I =
did the work without concern for value gained vs. money spent: I built =
the car for myself. I haven't kept tabs, but my expenditure has got to =
approach $25K plus whatever value my time has. The same hundreds of =
hours spent teaching music would yield far more than I could ever expect =
to get for the car.  The answer is the same as what we've been telling =
each-other for years: "investment" is an inappropriate term as it =
implies the expectation of a profit.  We build these restorations for =
the self-satisfaction derived from doing our best, and we enjoy sharing =
our pride-and-joys with our MG friends.  Sales prices will not be a =
return on that "investment"; it will be a "salvage residual" remaining =
after we have derived the pleasure we hoped for in the restoration and =
showing process.  And what about the learning we acquired in that =
process?  Was that tuition-free?  Of course not.  The ultimate pleasure =
from any hobby, or from the pursuit of art itself comes in doing =
something as well as possible without regard for the marketplace.  The =
marketplace may charge us heavily for our experience, but isn't it worth =
it?  We are not in this hobby to make money!
> =
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<html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://260/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: =
after-white-space; ">Hi John,<div><br></div><div>My only "knowledge" is =
what I've heard on the rumor mill, and that is that he did sell it - and =
for close to his asking price. Perhaps somebody else who knows more will =
speak up. You have a beautiful car - is it just a matter of waiting for =
the right buyer to come =
along?</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Allen<br><div>

<br><div><div>On Jan 13, 2014, at 7:03 PM, John Park wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"WordSection1" =
style=3D"page: WordSection1; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Allen, =
Do you know if John Drake sold his Magnette? It was advertised for =
several months a while back. He was looking for around $25,000. =
John<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div><div style=3D"border-right-style: =
none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: =
initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; =
padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: =
0in; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net]<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On =
Behalf Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Allen =
Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, January 13, 2014 =
12:27 AM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>List for the Z Magnette =
Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 =
MG Magnet 20000<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Ah... but Jim, shouldn't =
your's be priced somewhere over $20K? &nbsp;John Park, I know you're =
tired of trying to sell your car in this price range, and both of you =
have my compassion. &nbsp;Ultimately, yes, the customer is always right =
and we cannot get higher prices for our cars than folks are willing to =
pay. &nbsp;But... we can set some ground rules. &nbsp;We can tell the =
buying public that our restored cars cannot be had for less than, say, =
$20K, or $25K if you please. &nbsp;If somebody wants a restored Z =
Magnette, that's the price. Period! &nbsp;Of course I'm NOT suggesting =
that we coerce each-other into holding out for higher prices. Those of =
us who are selling have highly personal reasons for doing so and we =
cannot stand here saying that members cannot sell their cars for less =
than $???<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Whether justified or not, =
my wife thinks I quit counting after $10K for my paintwork. &nbsp;Truth =
is I quit counting after $16K. &nbsp;In addition, I have thousands =
"invested" in parts for work I did on my own plus upholstery, which I =
hired out. &nbsp;I started out with a $4K car and I've spent well over =
$20K more to get the car where I want it. How well I succeeded is a very =
personal matter until I put the car up for sale. &nbsp;I did the work =
without concern for value gained vs. money spent: I built the car for =
myself. I haven't kept tabs, but my expenditure has got to approach $25K =
plus whatever value my time has. The same hundreds of hours spent =
teaching music would yield far more than I could ever expect to get for =
the car. &nbsp;The answer is the same as what we've been telling =
each-other for years: "investment" is an inappropriate term as it =
implies the expectation of a profit. &nbsp;We build these restorations =
for the self-satisfaction derived from doing our best, and we enjoy =
sharing our pride-and-joys with our MG friends. &nbsp;Sales prices will =
not be a return on that "investment"; it will be a "salvage residual" =
remaining after we have derived the pleasure we hoped for in the =
restoration and showing process. &nbsp;And what about the learning we =
acquired in that process? &nbsp;Was that tuition-free? &nbsp;Of course =
not. &nbsp;The ultimate pleasure from any hobby, or from the pursuit of =
art itself comes in doing something as well as possible without regard =
for the marketplace. &nbsp;The marketplace may charge us heavily for our =
experience, but isn't it worth it? &nbsp;We are not in this hobby to =
make money!<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">If somebody wants to buy =
my car, the asking price will be about $30K, the negotiated price may be =
between $25 and $28K, depending on my mood and level of desperation. =
Those of you who have seen my car might have different opinions, but =
that's where I stand. With reasonable luck, these will be but =
instructions to my executor. But at that point, I'll be gone and won't =
care. I will instruct my executor to refrain from diluting the Magnette =
market with a sub-priced car. Beyond that, I have no =
control...<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">Allen<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; =
">****************************************************************</span><=
/i></b></span><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: =
13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward =
MGs</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><i><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; ">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><i><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; ">North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; "><a href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><sp=
an class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; =
">****************************************************************</span><=
/span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">On Jan 12, 2014, at 9:38 PM, James Schulte =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Remember, mine is for =
sale for a hell of a lot less. (((-'<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">Jim<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">58 ZB w/1830 =
67 B engine and T 35 Borg Warner automatic.<br><br>Sent from my =
iPad<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; "><br>On Jan 12, 2014, at 6:50 PM, John Marcell &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Begin forwarded =
message:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: =
13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">From:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">John =
Marcell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet =
20000</span></b><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">Date:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">January 12, 2014 4:24:27 PM CST</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; ">To:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">List =
for the Z Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Reply-To:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">List =
for the Z Magnette Group - North America &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">If anyone =
knows of someone looking for a restored one for that price range send =
them my way. &nbsp;A/C &amp; Supercharged, 1100 miles on restoration. =
&nbsp;Would consider thinning my herd.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">Phil<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Jan 12, =
2014, at 12:54 PM, John Marcell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:=
 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Good car, good price if =
you cant do the work yourself. &nbsp;Even I don't think you could do one =
with you doing all the work today.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">Phil<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Begin forwarded =
message:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: =
13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">From:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Gary =
Sandusky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Subject: 1958 MG Magnet =
20000</span></b><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">Date:<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">January 11, 2014 9:34:04 PM CST</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; ">To:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">Phil =
Marcell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Take a look at =
this Magnet.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>Gary<br><br><a =
href=3D"http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4281771840.html</a><br><br><br>Sent=
 from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
 style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
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From: "sandyandmike" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 09:20:44 -0500

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John Drake did get his price from a local gentleman that wanted an around
town car for his Summer home.

Mike H.

From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of John Park
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 7:04 PM
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet 20000

Cheers,

Allen

Jim

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[Zmagnette] Fwd: 1958 MG Magnet =
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