Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects <[email-masked]> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>

From: Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 17:22:41 -0500

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Thanks Lann!  We have a community college in town -  I'll start with =
them.  And thanks also for the Sherline link.

Holiday Cheers,
Allen
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Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:31 PM, [email-masked] wrote:

> Alan, et al,
> =20
> Here in NE Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two night a =
week classes in auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, =
CAD, NC programming and machining.  The cost is reasonable and geezers =
(60+) get a 20% discount.  There may be something similar in your area.
> =20
> And, for a good introduction to machining check www.sherline.com.  =
Their stuff is small, but they are real tools.  Everything you can learn =
on a Sherline lathe or mill transfers to full size machines.
> =20
> Lann
> =20
> In a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, =
[email-masked] writes:
> #2 SteveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for =
a couple old geezer's machining classes.  Anybody know where I can take =
one or two or whatever it takes?
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> Steve T: I have another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft =
pulley for a five-main MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the =
water pump,  would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make the =
crankshaft pulley in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars cannot =
be choosers...
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> Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when you get to working =
on your Magnette rear axle.  Unlike you, I totally forgot I already had =
one of these and was looking for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet I =
spent over a week looking for one before I realized even the right size =
wouldn't fit, AND that I already HAD ONE!! =20
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> If I get any more ideas, I'll share them!
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> Thanks,
> Allen
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> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
> North Street, MI 48049, USA
> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> ****************************************************************
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> On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:
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>> Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this =
wonderful trade.  Congratulations to you, and to your son.
>> =20
>> Such an awesome offer.  I purchased, at great expense, that socket =
you are talking about.  Never used it.  If he could use it for guidance, =
I'd be glad to loan it to him.=20
>> =20
>> As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as =
your son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.
>> =20
>> Thanks for thinking up a great offer, though!
>> =20
>> #2Steve K
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Steven Trovato
>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>> Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:55 PM
>> Subject: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects
>>=20
>> My son is in college in a two year program to become a machinist.  It=20=

>> seems that he needs some proposals for projects he can do there.  As=20=

>> the one paying the tuition, I get to suggest something that would be=20=

>> of use to me and my MGs.  One thought I had was to make a nice socket=20=

>> for the octagon shaped rear axle nut.  Does anyone else have any=20
>> ideas for any cool stuff I could suggest?  There's no guarantee that=20=

>> he will do it, as the project would have to fit in with the goals of=20=

>> the course work.  So, what would you guys do if you had a machinist=20=

>> at your disposal?  Note that this is not an automotive machinist=20
>> program, so they are not set up for operations on engine blocks,=20
>> crankshafts, etc.
>>=20
>> -Steve T.
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<br><div><div>On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:31 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> wrote:</div><br =
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<div>Alan, et al, </div>
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<div>Here in NE Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two night a =
week=20
classes in auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, CAD, =
NC=20
programming and machining.&nbsp; The cost is reasonable and geezers =
(60+) get a=20
20% discount.&nbsp; There may be something similar in your area.</div>
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<div>And, for a good introduction to machining check <a =
href=3D"http://www.sherline.com/">www.sherline.com</a>.&nbsp; Their =
stuff is small,=20
but they are real tools.&nbsp; Everything you can learn on a Sherline =
lathe or=20
mill transfers to full size machines.</div>
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<div>Lann</div>
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<div>In a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20=

<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> =
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couple=20
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one or two=20
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  <div>Steve T: I have another idea for a project - a serpentine =
crankshaft=20
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the water=20
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  crankshaft pulley in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars =
cannot be=20
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  <div><br></div>
  <div>Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when you get to =
working on=20
  your Magnette rear axle. &nbsp;Unlike you, I totally forgot I already =
had one=20
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spent over=20
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fit, AND=20
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  <div>If I get any more ideas, I'll share them!</div>
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  <div>Thanks,</div>
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  <div>On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline">
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    <div>Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this=20=

    wonderful trade.&nbsp; Congratulations to you, and to your =
son.</div>
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    <div>Such an awesome offer.&nbsp; I purchased, at great expense, =
that socket=20
    you are talking about.&nbsp; Never used it.&nbsp; If he could use it =
for=20
    guidance, I'd be glad to loan it to him.&nbsp;</div>
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    <div>As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as =
soon as=20
    your son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>Thanks for thinking up a great offer, though!</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>#2Steve K</div>
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      <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</div>
      <div style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(228,228,228); FONT: 10pt =
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initial"><b>From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a=
 title=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Steven Trovato</a></div>
      <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
title=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">List for the Z Magnette Group -=20=

      North America</a></div>
      <div style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b><span =
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There's a fellow in Michigan who goes to John Twist's summer parties who
sells the illusive differential oil fill plug wrench. Nortier, maybe Rob?
MaybeJjohn could enlighten us on that. I bought one from him about 10 years
ago. Works like a charm.

From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:23 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects

Thanks Lann!  We have a community college in town -  I'll start with them.
And thanks also for the Sherline link.

Holiday Cheers,

Allen

Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs

Alan, et al, 

Here in NE Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two night a week
classes in auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, CAD, NC
programming and machining.  The cost is reasonable and geezers (60+) get a
20% discount.  There may be something similar in your area.

And, for a good introduction to machining check www.sherline.com
<http://www.sherline.com/> .  Their stuff is small, but they are real tools.
Everything you can learn on a Sherline lathe or mill transfers to full size
machines.

Lann

In a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,

#2 SteveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for a
couple old geezer's machining classes.  Anybody know where I can take one or
two or whatever it takes? 

Steve T: I have another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft pulley
for a five-main MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the water pump,
would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make the crankshaft pulley
in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars cannot be choosers...

Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when you get to working on your
Magnette rear axle.  Unlike you, I totally forgot I already had one of these
and was looking for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet I spent over a week
looking for one before I realized even the right size wouldn't fit, AND that
I already HAD ONE!!  

Thanks,

Allen

Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs

Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this wonderful
trade.  Congratulations to you, and to your son.

Such an awesome offer.  I purchased, at great expense, that socket you are
talking about.  Never used it.  If he could use it for guidance, I'd be glad
to loan it to him. 

As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as your
son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.

#2Steve K

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My son is in college in a two year program to become a machinist.  It 
seems that he needs some proposals for projects he can do there.  As 
the one paying the tuition, I get to suggest something that would be 
of use to me and my MGs.  One thought I had was to make a nice socket 
for the octagon shaped rear axle nut.  Does anyone else have any 
ideas for any cool stuff I could suggest?  There's no guarantee that 
he will do it, as the project would have to fit in with the goals of 
the course work.  So, what would you guys do if you had a machinist 
at your disposal?  Note that this is not an automotive machinist 
program, so they are not set up for operations on engine blocks, 
crankshafts, etc.

-Steve T.

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summer parties who sells the illusive differential oil fill plug wrench. =
Nortier, maybe Rob? MaybeJjohn could enlighten us on that. I bought one =
from him about 10 years ago. Works like a charm.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen =
Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 16, 2013 5:23 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North =
America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist =
projects<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks Lann! =
&nbsp;We have a community college in town - &nbsp;I'll start with them. =
&nbsp;And thanks also for the Sherline link.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
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k'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
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'>Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
=3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span =
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v></div></div></div><p =
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Dec 16, 2013, at 2:31 PM, <a =
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wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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lan, et al, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>H=
ere in NE Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two night a week =
classes in auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, CAD, =
NC programming and machining.&nbsp; The cost is reasonable and geezers =
(60+) get a 20% discount.&nbsp; There may be something similar in your =
area.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A=
nd, for a good introduction to machining check <a =
href=3D"http://www.sherline.com/">www.sherline.com</a>.&nbsp; Their =
stuff is small, but they are real tools.&nbsp; Everything you can learn =
on a Sherline lathe or mill transfers to full size =
machines.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>L=
ann<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
n a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> =
writes:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>#=
2 SteveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for a =
couple old geezer's machining classes. &nbsp;Anybody know where I can =
take one or two or whatever it takes? <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
teve T: I have another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft =
pulley for a five-main MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the =
water pump, &nbsp;would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make =
the crankshaft pulley in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars =
cannot be choosers...<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>S=
teve K, you will need that octagonal socket when you get to working on =
your Magnette rear axle. &nbsp;Unlike you, I totally forgot I already =
had one of these and was looking for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet =
I spent over a week looking for one before I realized even the right =
size wouldn't fit, AND that I already HAD ONE!! =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
f I get any more ideas, I'll share =
them!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>T=
hanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>A=
llen<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>****************************************************************</span>=
</i></b></span><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
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k'> </span></span><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:=
p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><di=
v><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
=3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
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'><a href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" =
title=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs">http://www.mgexperi=
ence.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><span =
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k'> </span></span><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><d=
iv><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>=
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v></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>O=
n Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><=
br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this =
wonderful trade.&nbsp; Congratulations to you, and to your =
son.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>Such an awesome offer.&nbsp; I purchased, at great expense, that =
socket you are talking about.&nbsp; Never used it.&nbsp; If he could use =
it for guidance, I'd be glad to loan it to =
him.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as =
your son gets booked up, I know I'll think of =
something.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>Thanks for thinking up a great offer, =
though!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'>#2Steve K<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
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rom:</span></b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
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a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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nbsp;</span></span><span =
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ent:</span></b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
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nbsp;</span></span><span =
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aturday, December 14, 2013 6:55 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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ubject:</span></b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
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nbsp;</span></span><span =
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Zmagnette] Machinist projects<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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k'>My son is in college in a two year program to become a =
machinist.&nbsp; It<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>seems that he needs some =
proposals for projects he can do there.&nbsp; As<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>the one paying the =
tuition, I get to suggest something that would be<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>of use to me and my =
MGs.&nbsp; One thought I had was to make a nice socket<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>for the octagon shaped =
rear axle nut.&nbsp; Does anyone else have any<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>ideas for any cool stuff =
I could suggest?&nbsp; There's no guarantee that<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>he will do it, as the =
project would have to fit in with the goals of<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>the course work.&nbsp; =
So, what would you guys do if you had a machinist<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>at your disposal?&nbsp; =
Note that this is not an automotive machinist<span =
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set up for operations on engine blocks,<span =
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The oil fill on the axle? Get a 7/16" piece of bar stock, put a 90=C2=B0 be=
nd in it, and cut off one leg to be an inch and a half or so long. Instant =
filler/drain plug tool.=0A=0A=0AMike=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________________=
_____=0A From: John Park <[email-masked]>=0ATo: 'List for the Z Magnette Gr=
oup - North America' <[email-masked]> =0ASent: Monday, December 1=
6, 2013 3:39 PM=0ASubject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects=0A =0A=0A=0AT=
here=E2=80=99s a fellow in Michigan who goes to John Twist=E2=80=99s summer=
 parties who sells the illusive differential oil fill plug wrench. Nortier,=
 maybe Rob? MaybeJjohn could enlighten us on that. I bought one from him ab=
out 10 years ago. Works like a charm.=0A=C2=A0=0AFrom:zmagnette-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Allen Ba=
chelder=0ASent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:23 PM=0ATo: List for the Z Magn=
ette Group - North America=0ASubject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects=0A=
=C2=A0=0AThanks Lann! =C2=A0We have a community college in town - =C2=A0I'l=
l start with them. =C2=A0And thanks also for the Sherline link.=0A=C2=A0=0A=
Holiday Cheers,=0AAllen=0A*************************************************=
***************=0AAllen & Florrie Bachelder =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =3Diii=3D<=
=0ASpring Creek Home for Wayward MGs=0A'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT=0A=
North Street, MI 48049, USA=0Ahttp://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs=
=0A****************************************************************=0A=C2=
=A0=0AOn Dec 16, 2013, at 2:31 PM, [email-masked] wrote:=0A=0A=0AAlan, et al=
, =0A>=C2=A0=0A>Here in NE Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two=
 night a week classes in auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of weld=
ing, CAD, NC programming and machining.=C2=A0 The cost is reasonable and ge=
ezers (60+) get a 20% discount.=C2=A0 There may be something similar in you=
r area.=0A>=C2=A0=0A>And, for a good introduction to machining check www.sh=
erline.com.=C2=A0 Their stuff is small, but they are real tools.=C2=A0 Ever=
ything you can learn on a Sherline lathe or mill transfers to full size mac=
hines.=0A>=C2=A0=0A>Lann=0A>=C2=A0=0A>In a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51=
 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email-masked] writes:=0A>#2 SteveK: I a=
gree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for a couple old geeze=
r's machining classes. =C2=A0Anybody know where I can take one or two or wh=
atever it takes? =0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>Steve T: I have another idea for a project=
 - a serpentine crankshaft pulley for a five-main MGB engine, along with a =
matching pulley for the water pump, =C2=A0would be on the top of my wishlis=
t. Preferably, make the crankshaft pulley in the form of a harmonic balance=
r, but beggars cannot be choosers...=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>Steve K, you will need =
that octagonal socket when you get to working on your Magnette rear axle. =
=C2=A0Unlike you, I totally forgot I already had one of these and was looki=
ng for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet I spent over a week looking for =
one before I realized even the right size wouldn't fit, AND that I already =
HAD ONE!! =C2=A0=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>If I get any more ideas, I'll share them!=
=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>Thanks,=0A>>Allen=0A>>*************************************=
***************************=0A>>Allen & Florrie Bachelder =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =3Diii=3D<=0A>>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs=0A>>'57 ZB, '65 B, '69=
 C/GT, '73 B/GT=0A>>North Street, MI 48049, USA=0A>>http://www.mgexperience=
.net/member/bachldrs=0A>>**************************************************=
**************=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrot=
e:=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is purs=
uing this wonderful trade.=C2=A0 Congratulations to you, and to your son.=
=0A>>>=C2=A0=0A>>>Such an awesome offer.=C2=A0 I purchased, at great expens=
e, that socket you are talking about.=C2=A0 Never used it.=C2=A0 If he coul=
d use it for guidance, I'd be glad to loan it to him.=C2=A0=0A>>>=C2=A0=0A>=
>>As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as you=
r son gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.=0A>>>=C2=A0=0A>>>Than=
ks for thinking up a great offer, though!=0A>>>=C2=A0=0A>>>#2Steve K=0A>>>-=
---- Original Message -----=0A>>>>From:=C2=A0Steven Trovato=0A>>>>To:=C2=A0=
List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=0A>>>>Sent:=C2=A0Saturday, De=
cember 14, 2013 6:55 PM=0A>>>>Subject:=C2=A0[Zmagnette] Machinist projects=
=0A>>>>=C2=A0=0A>>>>My son is in college in a two year program to become a =
machinist.=C2=A0 It=C2=A0=0A>>>>seems that he needs some proposals for proj=
ects he can do there.=C2=A0 As=C2=A0=0A>>>>the one paying the tuition, I ge=
t to suggest something that would be=C2=A0=0A>>>>of use to me and my MGs.=
=C2=A0 One thought I had was to make a nice socket=C2=A0=0A>>>>for the octa=
gon shaped rear axle nut.=C2=A0 Does anyone else have any=C2=A0=0A>>>>ideas=
 for any cool stuff I could suggest?=C2=A0 There's no guarantee that=C2=A0=
=0A>>>>he will do it, as the project would have to fit in with the goals of=
=C2=A0=0A>>>>the course work.=C2=A0 So, what would you guys do if you had a=
 machinist=C2=A0=0A>>>>at your disposal?=C2=A0 Note that this is not an aut=
omotive machinist=C2=A0=0A>>>>program, so they are not set up for operation=
s on engine blocks,=C2=A0=0A>>>>crankshafts, etc.=0A>>>>=0A>>>>-Steve T.=0A=
>>>>=0A>>>>_______________________________________________=0A>>>>Zmagnette =
mailing list=0A>>>>=0A>>>>Donate:=C2=A0http://www.team.net/donate.html=0A>>=
>>Archive:=C2=A0http://www.team.net/archive=0A>>>>Forums:=C2=A0http://www.t=
eam.net/forums=0A>>>>Unsubscribe/Manage:=C2=A0http://autox.team.net/mailman=
/options/zmagnette/[email-masked]=0A>>>_________________________________=
______________=0A>>>Zmagnette mailing list=0A>>>=0A>>>Donate:=C2=A0http://w=
ww.team.net/donate.html=0A>>>Archive:=C2=A0http://www.team.net/archive=0A>>=
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ette mailing list=0A>>=0A>>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html=0A>>Arch=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Co=
urier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">The oil f=
ill on the axle? Get a 7/16" piece of bar stock, put a 90=C2=B0 bend in it,=
 and cut off one leg to be an inch and a half or so long. Instant filler/dr=
ain plug tool.<br><div><br><span></span></div><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0=
, 0); font-size: 13.3333px; font-family: Courier New,courier,monaco,monospa=
ce,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>Mi=
ke</span></div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: Courier New, cou=
rier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style=3D"font-=
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s-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font face=
=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b=
> John Park &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;=
">To:</span></b>
 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America' &lt;[email-masked]=
et&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, =
December 16, 2013 3:39 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject=
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=3D"yiv6726379534WordSection1"><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">There=E2=80=99s a fellow in Michigan who goes t=
o John Twist=E2=80=99s summer parties who sells the illusive differential o=
il fill plug wrench. Nortier, maybe Rob? MaybeJjohn could enlighten us on t=
hat. I bought one from him about 10 years ago. Works like a charm.</span></=
div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;"=
> &nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534yqt8489987583" id=3D"yiv672=
6379534yqt73689"><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.=
0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;"> [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen Bachelder<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> =
Monday, December 16, 2013 5:23 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> List
 for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b>=
 Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects</span></div></div></div><div class=3D"y=
iv6726379534MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal">T=
hanks Lann! &nbsp;We have a community college in town - &nbsp;I'll start wi=
th them. &nbsp;And thanks also for the Sherline link.</div><div><div class=
=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv672637=
9534MsoNormal">Holiday Cheers,</div></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv67263=
79534yqt8489987583" id=3D"yiv6726379534yqt09343"><div class=3D"yiv672637953=
4MsoNormal">Allen</div><div><div><div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNo=
rmal"><span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:9.0pt;">***********************************************************=
*****</span></i></b></span><span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-style-span"><s=
pan
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;"></span></span></div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;"=
>Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =3Diii=3D&lt;<br clear=
=3D"none">Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:9.0pt;"></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNorma=
l"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT=
</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;"></span></div></div><div><di=
v class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;">N=
orth Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;"><=
/span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv6726379=
534MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-style-span"><b><i><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:9.0pt;"><a
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erience.net/member/bachldrs">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a=
></span></i></b></span><span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-style-span"><span =
style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;"></span></span></div><div><div><div><div><div><d=
iv><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div cl=
ass=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-style-span=
"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;">****************************************=
************************</span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
/div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"=
> &nbsp;</div><div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal">On Dec 16, 20=
13, at 2:31 PM, <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:LannM@=
aol.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> =
wrote:</div></div><div
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iv><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div id=3D"y=
iv6726379534role_body"><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Alan, et al, </span></div></div><div><div class=3D=
"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></d=
iv></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;">Here in NE Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two nigh=
t a week classes in auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, =
CAD, NC programming and machining.&nbsp; The cost is reasonable and geezers=
 (60+) get a 20% discount.&nbsp; There may be something similar in your are=
a.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv67263=
79534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">And, for a good introduct=
ion to machining check
 <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.sh=
erline.com/">www.sherline.com</a>.&nbsp; Their stuff is small, but they are=
 real tools.&nbsp; Everything you can learn on a Sherline lathe or mill tra=
nsfers to full size machines.</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv67263=
79534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></div></div>=
<div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
">Lann</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div><div class=3D=
"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">In a message dat=
ed 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> writes:</span></div>=
</div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding=
:0in 0in 0in
 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div class=
=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">#2 SteveK: I =
agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for a couple old geez=
er's machining classes. &nbsp;Anybody know where I can take one or two or w=
hatever it takes? </span></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=
=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Steve T: I ha=
ve another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft pulley for a five-m=
ain MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the water pump, &nbsp;woul=
d be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make the crankshaft pulley in t=
he form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars cannot be choosers...</span></d=
iv><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><=
span
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket w=
hen you get to working on your Magnette rear axle. &nbsp;Unlike you, I tota=
lly forgot I already had one of these and was looking for a hex wrench to d=
o the trick. ' Bet I spent over a week looking for one before I realized ev=
en the right size wouldn't fit, AND that I already HAD ONE!! &nbsp;</span><=
/div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">If I get any more ideas, I'll shar=
e them!</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yi=
v6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Thanks,</span></div=
></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;">Allen</span></div><div><div><div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534M=
soNormal"><span
 class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0=
pt;">****************************************************************</span=
></i></b></span><span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-style-span"><span style=
=3D"font-size:13.5pt;"> </span></span><span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-sty=
le-span"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;"></span></span></div><div><div><d=
iv><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><d=
iv><div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:9.0pt;">Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =3Diii=3D=
&lt;<br clear=3D"none">Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;"></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv67263=
79534MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C=
/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;"></span></div><=
/div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:9.0pt;">North Street, MI
 48049, USA</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;"></span></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><=
span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size=
:9.0pt;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http:=
//www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" title=3D"http://www.mgexperience.ne=
t/member/bachldrs">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></=
i></b></span><span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-style-span"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:13.5pt;"> </span></span><span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-style-sp=
an"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;"></span></span></div><div><div><div><d=
iv><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><d=
iv><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-=
style-span"><span
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*****************</span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></=
div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div><div><div><div class=3D"yiv=
6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">On Dec 15, 2013, at =
3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:</span></div></div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"=
none"></span></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0p=
t;"><div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:13.5pt;">Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this w=
onderful trade.&nbsp; Congratulations to you, and to your son.</span></div>=
</div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yi=
v6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">Such an awesome off=
er.&nbsp; I purchased, at great expense, that socket you are talking about.=
&nbsp; Never used it.&nbsp; If he could use it for guidance, I'd be glad to=
 loan it to him.&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><d=
iv class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">As to=
 other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as your son g=
ets booked up, I know I'll think of something.</span></div></div><div><div =
class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">&nbsp;</=
span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:13.5pt;">Thanks for thinking up a great offer, though!</span></di=
v></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yi=
v6726379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">#2Steve K</span></d=
iv></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;pad=
ding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in=
;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">----- Original Message -----</span></div></div><di=
v><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal" style=3D"background:#E4E4E4;"><b><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span class=3D"yiv672637953=
4apple-converted-space"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:str=
[email-masked]" title=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Steven Trovato=
</a></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><b><span
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">To:</span></b><span class=3D"yiv6726379534appl=
e-converted-space"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></span><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:zmagn=
[email-masked]" title=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">List for the=
 Z Magnette Group - North America</a></span></div></div><div><div class=3D"=
yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Sent:</span></=
b><span class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-converted-space"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Saturday,=
 December 14, 2013 6:55 PM</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv67263795=
34MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Subject:</span></b><span =
class=3D"yiv6726379534apple-converted-space"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">[Zmagnette] Machi=
nist
 projects</span></div></div><div><div class=3D"yiv6726379534MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div></div><div class=3D"yiv67=
26379534MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">My son is in college i=
n a two year program to become a machinist.&nbsp; It<span class=3D"yiv67263=
79534apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none">seems that he n=
eeds some proposals for projects he can do there.&nbsp; As<span class=3D"yi=
v6726379534apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none">the one p=
aying the tuition, I get to suggest something that would be<span class=3D"y=
iv6726379534apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none">of use t=
o me and my MGs.&nbsp; One thought I had was to make a nice socket<span cla=
ss=3D"yiv6726379534apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none">f=
or the octagon shaped rear axle nut.&nbsp; Does anyone else have any<span c=
lass=3D"yiv6726379534apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none"=
>ideas for any cool
 stuff I could suggest?&nbsp; There's no guarantee that<span class=3D"yiv67=
26379534apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none">he will do i=
t, as the project would have to fit in with the goals of<span class=3D"yiv6=
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work.&nbsp; So, what would you guys do if you had a machinist<span class=3D=
"yiv6726379534apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none">at you=
r disposal?&nbsp; Note that this is not an automotive machinist<span class=
=3D"yiv6726379534apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none">pro=
gram, so they are not set up for operations on engine blocks,<span class=3D=
"yiv6726379534apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br clear=3D"none">cranks=
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Rob Nortier of Liverpool Motor Works! Very interesting chap with some =
really interesting and unique bits of unobtanium... I got my tyre pump =
rebuilt and the hose replaced by Rob and when he returned them he also =
sent some Purolator oil filter dash hanger cards just for grins....

I also bought some vintage tyre repair kits and tools from him - very =
nice stuff at fair prices

http://www.liverpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html

Steve H

On Dec 16, 2013, at 3:39 PM, John Park <[email-masked]> wrote:

> There=92s a fellow in Michigan who goes to John Twist=92s summer =
parties who sells the illusive differential oil fill plug wrench. =
Nortier, maybe Rob? MaybeJjohn could enlighten us on that. I bought one =
from him about 10 years ago. Works like a charm.
> =20
> From: [email-masked] =
> =20
> Such an awesome offer.  I purchased, at great expense, that socket you =
are talking about.  Never used it.  If he could use it for guidance, I'd =
be glad to loan it to him.=20

> the course work.  So, what would you guys do if you had a machinist=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dwindows-1252"><base href=3D"x-msg://351/"></head><body =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Rob Nortier of Liverpool Motor =
Works! Very interesting chap with some really interesting and unique =
bits of unobtanium... I got my tyre pump rebuilt and the hose replaced =
by Rob and when he returned them he also sent some Purolator oil filter =
dash hanger cards just for grins....<div><br></div><div>I also bought =
some vintage tyre repair kits and tools from him - very nice stuff at =
fair prices<br><div><br></div><div><a =
href=3D"http://www.liverpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html">http://www.live=
rpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>Steve =
H</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 16, 2013, at 3:39 PM, =
John Park &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" =
style=3D"font-family: 'Century Gothic'; font-size: medium; font-style: =
normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class=3D"WordSection1" =
style=3D"page: WordSection1; "><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125); ">There=92s a fellow in Michigan who goes to John Twist=92s =
summer parties who sells the illusive differential oil fill plug wrench. =
Nortier, maybe Rob? MaybeJjohn could enlighten us on that. I bought one =
from him about 10 years ago. Works like a =
charm.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125); ">&nbsp;</span></div><div><div style=3D"border-style: solid =
none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); =
padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[mailto:zmagnette-<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Allen =
Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, December 16, 2013 =
5:23 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>List for the Z Magnette =
Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist =
projects<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Thanks Lann! =
&nbsp;We have a community college in town - &nbsp;I'll start with them. =
&nbsp;And thanks also for the Sherline link.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; ">Holiday Cheers,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; ">Allen<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; "><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: =
9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">****************************************************************</span><=
/i></b></span><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: =
13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; "><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; ">Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
=3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; ">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 =
B/GT</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; ">North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><a =
href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><sp=
an class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">****************************************************************</span><=
/span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On =
Dec 16, 2013, at 2:31 PM,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div>=
<div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div =
id=3D"role_body"><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Alan, et =
al,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Here =
in NE Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two night a week =
classes in auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, CAD, =
NC programming and machining.&nbsp; The cost is reasonable and geezers =
(60+) get a 20% discount.&nbsp; There may be something similar in your =
area.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">And, =
for a good introduction to machining check<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.sherline.com/" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">www.sherline.com</a>.&nbsp; Their stuff is =
small, but they are real tools.&nbsp; Everything you can learn on a =
Sherline lathe or mill transfers to full size =
machines.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">Lann<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">In a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>writes:<o:p></o:p></span></di=
v></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style: none none none solid; =
border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: blue; padding: 0in 0in 0in =
4pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; ">#2 SteveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what =
I'd give for a couple old geezer's machining classes. &nbsp;Anybody know =
where I can take one or two or whatever it =
takes?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Steve T: I =
have another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft pulley for a =
five-main MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the water pump, =
&nbsp;would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make the =
crankshaft pulley in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars cannot =
be choosers...<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">Steve K, you =
will need that octagonal socket when you get to working on your Magnette =
rear axle. &nbsp;Unlike you, I totally forgot I already had one of these =
and was looking for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet I spent over a =
week looking for one before I realized even the right size wouldn't fit, =
AND that I already HAD ONE!! =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">If I get any =
more ideas, I'll share them!<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">Allen<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">****************************************************************</span><=
/i></b></span><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: =
13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "></span></span><span =
class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; "><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; ">Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
=3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; ">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 =
B/GT</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; ">North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><a =
href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" =
title=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><sp=
an class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "></span></span><span =
class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
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"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">&nbsp;</span></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">On Dec 15, =
2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></div><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div style=3D"margin:=
 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; ">Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing =
this wonderful trade.&nbsp; Congratulations to you, and to your =
son.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">Such an awesome offer.&nbsp; I purchased, at great expense, that =
socket you are talking about.&nbsp; Never used it.&nbsp; If he could use =
it for guidance, I'd be glad to loan it to =
him.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as =
your son gets booked up, I know I'll think of =
something.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">Thanks for thinking up a great offer, =
though!<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
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font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">----- Original Message =
-----<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); "><b><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span =
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font-family: Arial, sans-serif; ">&nbsp;</span></span><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; "><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
title=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">Steven =
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0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
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">To:</span></b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space"><span =
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">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif; "><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
title=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">List for the Z Magnette Group - North =
America</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">Sent:</span></b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space"><span =
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">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
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PM<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
">Subject:</span></b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space"><span =
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">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Arial, sans-serif; ">[Zmagnette] Machinist =
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font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; ">My son =
is in college in a two year program to become a machinist.&nbsp; It<span =
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some proposals for projects he can do there.&nbsp; As<span =
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tuition, I get to suggest something that would be<span =
class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>of use to me and my =
MGs.&nbsp; One thought I had was to make a nice socket<span =
class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>for the octagon shaped =
rear axle nut.&nbsp; Does anyone else have any<span =
class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>ideas for any cool =
stuff I could suggest?&nbsp; There's no guarantee that<span =
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project would have to fit in with the goals of<span =
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So, what would you guys do if you had a machinist<span =
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Note that this is not an automotive machinist<span =
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not set up for operations on engine blocks,<span =
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No, Liverpool Motorworks is Jerry Labant. Yes he's a very interesting fellow
who sometimes has very good deals on strange and rare items. More than
occasionally they are fairly pricey. Jerry lives in Pennsylvania while Rob
lives in Michigan. He manufactures his tools which you can buy individually
or as a complete set for a particular MG model. He does have some used stuff
but he is more casual about how he sells things and you don't usually get
the big story with each piece. I've purchased several tools from him and
they seem to be well made and work when I've asked them to. As Allen likes
to say, I don't have any connection to this person or any financial
interest. Here is his web site page off of Google searches:

British Tool Company
Robb Nortier
709 Marietta NE
Grand Rapids, MI 49505
(616) 363-6666
http://www.britishtool.com/

Whitworth, BSF, BSP, BSC, BSW tools. Also makes special factory tools
originally made by Churchill in England.

WANTED!!!!! British Tool is looking for any quantity of old, used and
obsolete tools for British Sports cars. If you happen to have any Churchill
tools laying around, I'm interested. Also, many customers would like to have
those tool kit tools you have as duplicate or don't know exactly what they
belong to so let me know! DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SERVICES:

BRITISH TOOL has complete design and production facilities available, and
will be happy to undertake custom design of various projects and bring them
to completion. Currently on staff is Liliana Teodorescu, an engineer skilled
in mechanical, electrical, structural and civil engineering. She has a
Masters degree in Engineering and has taught at the University of Brasov in
Rumania, and L'Ecole Technique De Blida in Algeria. She was awarded the
prestigious Definitive Professor Degree in Rumania in 1976.

MACHINE SHOP SERVICES AVAILABLE:

We have a new mill, engine lathe, and several pieces of other production
equipment ready and waiting for small jobs. Our journeyman machinist is a
virtual artist when it comes to metal work, so if you have an idea, we can
make it.

From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Steve Hanegan
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 6:51 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects

Rob Nortier of Liverpool Motor Works! Very interesting chap with some really
interesting and unique bits of unobtanium... I got my tyre pump rebuilt and
the hose replaced by Rob and when he returned them he also sent some
Purolator oil filter dash hanger cards just for grins....

I also bought some vintage tyre repair kits and tools from him - very nice
stuff at fair prices

Steve H

On Dec 16, 2013, at 3:39 PM, John Park <[email-masked]

[email-masked] [mailto:zmagnette-
Bachelder
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 5:23 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects

Holiday Cheers,

Allen

 <http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs>
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs

Alan, et al,

And, for a good introduction to machining check  <http://www.sherline.com/>
www.sherline.com.  Their stuff is small, but they are real tools.
Everything you can learn on a Sherline lathe or mill transfers to full size
machines.

Lann

Thanks,

Allen

 <http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs>
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs

#2Steve K

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America

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>No, Liverpool Motorworks is Jerry Labant. Yes he&#8217;s a very =
interesting fellow who sometimes has very good deals on strange and rare =
items. More than occasionally they are fairly pricey. Jerry lives in =
Pennsylvania while Rob lives in Michigan. He manufactures his tools =
which you can buy individually or as a complete set for a particular MG =
model. He does have some used stuff but he is more casual about how he =
sells things and you don&#8217;t usually get the big story with each =
piece. I&#8217;ve purchased several tools from him and they seem to be =
well made and work when I&#8217;ve asked them to. As Allen likes to say, =
I don&#8217;t have any connection to this person or any financial =
interest. Here is his web site page off of Google =
searches:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>British Tool =
Company<br>Robb Nortier<br>709 Marietta NE<br>Grand Rapids, MI =
49505<br>(616) 363-6666<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><a =
href=3D"http://www.britishtool.com/">http://www.britishtool.com/</a><o:p>=
</o:p></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Whitworth, =
BSF, BSP, BSC, BSW tools. Also makes special factory tools originally =
made by Churchill in England.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>WANTED!!!!! =
British Tool is looking for any quantity of old, used and obsolete tools =
for British Sports cars. If you happen to have any Churchill tools =
laying around, I'm interested. Also, many customers would like to have =
those tool kit tools you have as duplicate or don't know exactly what =
they belong to so let me know! DESIGN AND ENGINEERING =
SERVICES:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>BRITISH =
TOOL has complete design and production facilities available, and will =
be happy to undertake custom design of various projects and bring them =
to completion. Currently on staff is Liliana Teodorescu, an engineer =
skilled in mechanical, electrical, structural and civil engineering. She =
has a Masters degree in Engineering and has taught at the University of =
Brasov in Rumania, and L'Ecole Technique De Blida in Algeria. She was =
awarded the prestigious Definitive Professor Degree in Rumania in =
1976.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>MACHINE =
SHOP SERVICES AVAILABLE:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>We have a =
new mill, engine lathe, and several pieces of other production equipment =
ready and waiting for small jobs. Our journeyman machinist is a virtual =
artist when it comes to metal work, so if you have an idea, we can make =
it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> =
[email-masked] =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve =
Hanegan<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 16, 2013 6:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Zmagnette] Machinist projects<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Rob Nortier =
of Liverpool Motor Works! Very interesting chap with some really =
interesting and unique bits of unobtanium... I got my tyre pump rebuilt =
and the hose replaced by Rob and when he returned them he also sent some =
Purolator oil filter dash hanger cards just for =
grins....<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
also bought some vintage tyre repair kits and tools from him - very nice =
stuff at fair prices<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"http://www.liverpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html">http://www.liv=
erpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Steve H<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Dec 16, 2013, at 3:39 PM, John Park &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
charm.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span=
></b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</spa=
n></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>[email-masked]</span></a><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>[mailto:zmagnette-<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>[email-masked]</span></a>]<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></b>Allen =
Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Monday, December 16, 2013 =
5:23 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>List for the Z Magnette Group =
- North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist =
projects</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks Lann! &nbsp;We have a community college in town =
- &nbsp;I'll start with them. &nbsp;And thanks also for the Sherline =
link.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Holiday Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Allen<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>**********=
******************************************************</span></i></b></sp=
an><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Allen =
&amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring =
Creek Home for Wayward =
MGs</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>'57 ZB, =
'65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 =
B/GT</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>North =
Street, MI 48049, =
USA</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</span>=
</a></span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>**********=
******************************************************</span></span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:31 PM,<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>[email-masked]</span></a><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></d=
iv><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div =
id=3D"role_body"><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Alan, et =
al,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Here in NE =
Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two night a week classes in =
auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, CAD, NC =
programming and machining.&nbsp; The cost is reasonable and geezers =
(60+) get a 20% discount.&nbsp; There may be something similar in your =
area.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>And, for a =
good introduction to machining check<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://www.sherline.com/"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>www.sherline.com</span></a>.&nbsp; Their stuff is =
small, but they are real tools.&nbsp; Everything you can learn on a =
Sherline lathe or mill transfers to full size =
machines.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Lann</span><o=
:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In a message =
dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>[email-masked]</span></a><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>writes:</span><o:p></o:p></p><=
/div></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue =
1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>#2 SteveK: I =
agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for a couple old =
geezer's machining classes. &nbsp;Anybody know where I can take one or =
two or whatever it takes?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Steve T: I =
have another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft pulley for a =
five-main MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the water pump, =
&nbsp;would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make the =
crankshaft pulley in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars cannot =
be choosers...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Steve K, you =
will need that octagonal socket when you get to working on your Magnette =
rear axle. &nbsp;Unlike you, I totally forgot I already had one of these =
and was looking for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet I spent over a =
week looking for one before I realized even the right size wouldn't fit, =
AND that I already HAD ONE!! =
&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If I get any =
more ideas, I'll share =
them!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Thanks,</span=
><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Allen</span><=
o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>**********=
******************************************************</span></i></b></sp=
an><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Allen =
&amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring =
Creek Home for Wayward =
MGs</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>'57 ZB, =
'65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 =
B/GT</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>North =
Street, MI 48049, =
USA</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" =
title=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</span>=
</a></span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>**********=
******************************************************</span></span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>On Dec 15, =
2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br><br><=
/span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Wow, =
that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this wonderful =
trade.&nbsp; Congratulations to you, and to your =
son.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Such an =
awesome offer.&nbsp; I purchased, at great expense, that socket you are =
talking about.&nbsp; Never used it.&nbsp; If he could use it for =
guidance, I'd be glad to loan it to =
him.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>As to =
other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as your son =
gets booked up, I know I'll think of =
something.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Thanks =
for thinking up a great offer, =
though!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>#2Steve =
K</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:=
5.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- =
Original Message -----</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:#E4E4E4'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span><=
/b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
title=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>Steven =
Trovato</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b=
><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
title=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'color:purple'>List for the Z Magnette Group - North =
America</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span><=
/b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Saturday, =
December 14, 2013 6:55 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</spa=
n></b><span class=3Dapple-converted-space><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span>=
</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>[Zmagnette] =
Machinist projects</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>My son =
is in college in a two year program to become a machinist.&nbsp; It<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>seems that he needs some =
proposals for projects he can do there.&nbsp; As<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>the one paying the =
tuition, I get to suggest something that would be<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>of use to me and my =
MGs.&nbsp; One thought I had was to make a nice socket<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>for the octagon shaped =
rear axle nut.&nbsp; Does anyone else have any<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>ideas for any cool stuff =
I could suggest?&nbsp; There's no guarantee that<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>he will do it, as the =
project would have to fit in with the goals of<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>the course work.&nbsp; =
So, what would you guys do if you had a machinist<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>at your disposal?&nbsp; =
Note that this is not an automotive machinist<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>program, so they are not =
set up for operations on engine blocks,<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>crankshafts, =
etc.<br><br>-Steve =
T.<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Zmagnette =
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Right... Of mixing metaphors I am guilty... Both are good guys and great ass=
ets to our hobby...=20

Steve H

> On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:42 PM, "John Park" <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> No, Liverpool Motorworks is Jerry Labant. Yes he=E2=80=99s a very interest=
ing fellow who sometimes has very good deals on strange and rare items. More=
 than occasionally they are fairly pricey. Jerry lives in Pennsylvania while=
 Rob lives in Michigan. He manufactures his tools which you can buy individu=
ally or as a complete set for a particular MG model. He does have some used s=
tuff but he is more casual about how he sells things and you don=E2=80=99t u=
sually get the big story with each piece. I=E2=80=99ve purchased several too=
ls from him and they seem to be well made and work when I=E2=80=99ve asked t=
hem to. As Allen likes to say, I don=E2=80=99t have any connection to this p=
erson or any financial interest. Here is his web site page off of Google sea=
rches:
> [email-masked]
> Whitworth, BSF, BSP, BSC, BSW tools. Also makes special factory tools orig=
inally made by Churchill in England.
> WANTED!!!!! British Tool is looking for any quantity of old, used and obso=
lete tools for British Sports cars. If you happen to have any Churchill tool=
s laying around, I'm interested. Also, many customers would like to have tho=
se tool kit tools you have as duplicate or don't know exactly what they belo=
ng to so let me know! DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SERVICES:
> BRITISH TOOL has complete design and production facilities available, and w=
ill be happy to undertake custom design of various projects and bring them t=
o completion. Currently on staff is Liliana Teodorescu, an engineer skilled i=
n mechanical, electrical, structural and civil engineering. She has a Master=
s degree in Engineering and has taught at the University of Brasov in Rumani=
a, and L'Ecole Technique De Blida in Algeria. She was awarded the prestigiou=
s Definitive Professor Degree in Rumania in 1976.
> We have a new mill, engine lathe, and several pieces of other production e=
quipment ready and waiting for small jobs. Our journeyman machinist is a vir=
tual artist when it comes to metal work, so if you have an idea, we can make=
 it.
> =20
> =20
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net] On Behalf Of Steve Hanegan
> Rob Nortier of Liverpool Motor Works! Very interesting chap with some real=
ly interesting and unique bits of unobtanium... I got my tyre pump rebuilt a=
nd the hose replaced by Rob and when he returned them he also sent some Puro=
lator oil filter dash hanger cards just for grins....
> =20
> I also bought some vintage tyre repair kits and tools from him - very nice=
 stuff at fair prices
> There=E2=80=99s a fellow in Michigan who goes to John Twist=E2=80=99s summ=
er parties who sells the illusive differential oil fill plug wrench. Nortier=
, maybe Rob? MaybeJjohn could enlighten us on that. I bought one from him ab=
out 10 years ago. Works like a charm.
> =20
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
> Thanks Lann!  We have a community college in town -  I'll start with them.=
> Here in NE Oklahoma the Technology Center offers one or two night a week c=
lasses in auto body, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, CAD, NC pro=
gramming and machining.  The cost is reasonable and geezers (60+) get a 20% d=
iscount.  There may be something similar in your area.
> =20
> And, for a good introduction to machining check www.sherline.com.  Their s=
tuff is small, but they are real tools.  Everything you can learn on a Sherl=
ine lathe or mill transfers to full size machines.
> =20
> Lann
> =20
> In a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, bachldrs=
@comcast.net writes:
> #2 SteveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for a c=
ouple old geezer's machining classes.  Anybody know where I can take one or t=
wo or whatever it takes?
> =20
> Steve T: I have another idea for a project - a serpentine crankshaft pulle=
y for a five-main MGB engine, along with a matching pulley for the water pum=
p,  would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferably, make the crankshaft pull=
ey in the form of a harmonic balancer, but beggars cannot be choosers...
> =20
> Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when you get to working on yo=
ur Magnette rear axle.  Unlike you, I totally forgot I already had one of th=
ese and was looking for a hex wrench to do the trick. ' Bet I spent over a w=
eek looking for one before I realized even the right size wouldn't fit, AND t=
hat I already HAD ONE!! =20
> Wow, that's great in the first place, that he is pursuing this wonderful t=
rade.  Congratulations to you, and to your son.
> =20
> Such an awesome offer.  I purchased, at great expense, that socket you are=
 talking about.  Never used it.  If he could use it for guidance, I'd be gla=
d to loan it to him.=20
> =20
> As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as your=
> My son is in college in a two year program to become a machinist.  It=20
> seems that he needs some proposals for projects he can do there.  As=20
> the one paying the tuition, I get to suggest something that would be=20
> of use to me and my MGs.  One thought I had was to make a nice socket=20
> ideas for any cool stuff I could suggest?  There's no guarantee that=20
> he will do it, as the project would have to fit in with the goals of=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>Right... Of mixing metaphors I am guil=
ty... Both are good guys and great assets to our hobby...&nbsp;</div><div><b=
r>Steve H</div><div><br>On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:42 PM, "John Park" &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><block=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">No, Liverpool Motorworks is Jerry Labant. Y=
es he=E2=80=99s a very interesting fellow who sometimes has very good deals o=
n strange and rare items. More than occasionally they are fairly pricey. Jer=
ry lives in Pennsylvania while Rob lives in Michigan. He manufactures his to=
ols which you can buy individually or as a complete set for a particular MG m=
odel. He does have some used stuff but he is more casual about how he sells t=
hings and you don=E2=80=99t usually get the big story with each piece. I=E2=80=
=99ve purchased several tools from him and they seem to be well made and wor=
k when I=E2=80=99ve asked them to. As Allen likes to say, I don=E2=80=99t ha=
ve any connection to this person or any financial interest. Here is his web s=
ite page off of Google searches:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><b>British Tool Company<br>Robb Nortier<br>709 Marietta NE<br>Grand Rapids,=
 MI 49505<br>(616) 363-6666<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">brit=
[email-masked]</a><br><a href=3D"http://www.britishtool.com/">http://www.=
britishtool.com/</a><o:p></o:p></b></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-m=
argin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Whitworth, BSF, BSP, BSC, BSW=
 tools. Also makes special factory tools originally made by Churchill in Eng=
land.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;=
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">WANTED!!!!! British Tool is looking for any quan=
tity of old, used and obsolete tools for British Sports cars. If you happen t=
o have any Churchill tools laying around, I'm interested. Also, many custome=
rs would like to have those tool kit tools you have as duplicate or don't kn=
ow exactly what they belong to so let me know! DESIGN AND ENGINEERING SERVIC=
ES:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto">BRITISH TOOL has complete design and production fa=
cilities available, and will be happy to undertake custom design of various p=
rojects and bring them to completion. Currently on staff is Liliana Teodores=
cu, an engineer skilled in mechanical, electrical, structural and civil engi=
neering. She has a Masters degree in Engineering and has taught at the Unive=
rsity of Brasov in Rumania, and L'Ecole Technique De Blida in Algeria. She w=
as awarded the prestigious Definitive Professor Degree in Rumania in 1976.<o=
:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-mar=
gin-bottom-alt:auto">MACHINE SHOP SERVICES AVAILABLE:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">=
We have a new mill, engine lathe, and several pieces of other production equ=
ipment ready and waiting for small jobs. Our journeyman machinist is a virtu=
al artist when it comes to metal work, so if you have an idea, we can make i=
t.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt=
;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</spa=
n></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">zmagn=
[email-masked]</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>St=
eve Hanegan<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 16, 2013 6:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> L=
ist for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnet=
te] Machinist projects<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rob Nortier of Liverpool Moto=
r Works! Very interesting chap with some really interesting and unique bits o=
f unobtanium... I got my tyre pump rebuilt and the hose replaced by Rob and w=
hen he returned them he also sent some Purolator oil filter dash hanger card=
s just for grins....<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I also bought some vintage tyre re=
pair kits and tools from him - very nice stuff at fair prices<o:p></o:p></p>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><a href=3D"http://www.liverpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html">http://=
www.liverpoolmotorworks.com/Home_Page.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">St=
eve H<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">On Dec 16, 2013, at 3:39 PM, John Park &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jpar=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin=
-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Ther=
e=E2=80=99s a fellow in Michigan who goes to John Twist=E2=80=99s summer par=
ties who sells the illusive differential oil fill plug wrench. Nortier, mayb=
e Rob? MaybeJjohn could enlighten us on that. I bought one from him about 10=
 years ago. Works like a charm.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&qu=
ot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><d=
iv style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in=
 0in"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span class=
=3D"apple-converted-space"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"color:purple">=
[email-masked]</span></a><span class=3D"apple-converted-sp=
ace">&nbsp;</span>[mailto:zmagnette-<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
"><span style=3D"color:purple">[email-masked]</span></a>]<span class=
=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=3D"apple-=
converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Allen Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=
=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, December 16, 2013 5:23 PM<br=
><b>To:</b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>List for the Z=
 Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"apple-conve=
rted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] Machinist projects</span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks Lann! &nbsp;We have a community college=
 in town - &nbsp;I'll start with them. &nbsp;And thanks also for the Sherlin=
e link.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Holiday Cheers,<o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Allen<o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-seri=
f&quot;">****************************************************************</s=
pan></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;=
 =3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-=
size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">'57 ZB,=
 '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">North Street, MI 48049, USA</spa=
n></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href=3D"http://www.mgexper=
ience.net/member/bachldrs"><span style=3D"color:purple">http://www.mgexperie=
nce.net/member/bachldrs</span></a></span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div=
><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quo=
t;">****************************************************************</span><=
/span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Dec 16, 201=
3, at 2:31 PM,<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"color:purple">[email-masked]</span></a><=
span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockqu=
ote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div id=3D"role_body"><di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Alan, et al,</span><o:p></o:p></p></=
div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Here in NE Oklah=
oma the Technology Center offers one or two night a week classes in auto bod=
y, painting, upholstery, all kinds of welding, CAD, NC programming and machi=
ning.&nbsp; The cost is reasonable and geezers (60+) get a 20% discount.&nbs=
p; There may be something similar in your area.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><=
/div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>=
</div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">And, for a good intro=
duction to machining check<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span=
><a href=3D"http://www.sherline.com/"><span style=3D"color:purple">www.sherl=
ine.com</span></a>.&nbsp; Their stuff is small, but they are real tools.&nbs=
p; Everything you can learn on a Sherline lathe or mill transfers to full si=
ze machines.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;">Lann</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">In a message dated 12/15/2013 7:45:51 P=
.M. Central Standard Time,<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span=
><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span style=3D"color:purple">bachld=
[email-masked]</span></a><span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>=
writes:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;bo=
rder-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;marg=
in-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">#2 S=
teveK: I agree - what a terrific idea. And boy - what I'd give for a couple o=
ld geezer's machining classes. &nbsp;Anybody know where I can take one or tw=
o or whatever it takes?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;=
sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Steve T: I have another idea for a project - a serp=
entine crankshaft pulley for a five-main MGB engine, along with a matching p=
ulley for the water pump, &nbsp;would be on the top of my wishlist. Preferab=
ly, make the crankshaft pulley in the form of a harmonic balancer, but begga=
rs cannot be choosers...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Steve K, you will need that octagonal socket when y=
ou get to working on your Magnette rear axle. &nbsp;Unlike you, I totally fo=
rgot I already had one of these and was looking for a hex wrench to do the t=
rick. ' Bet I spent over a week looking for one before I realized even the r=
ight size wouldn't fit, AND that I already HAD ONE!! &nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:=
p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">If I get a=
ny more ideas, I'll share them!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Allen</span><o:p></o:p></p></=
div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i>=
<span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">***************************************************************=
*</span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; =3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><o:p><=
/o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">'57=
 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">North Street, MI 48049, USA<=
/span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><a href=3D"http://www.mge=
xperience.net/member/bachldrs" title=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/b=
achldrs"><span style=3D"color:purple">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bac=
hldrs</span></a></span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size:9.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">**************=
**************************************************</span></span><o:p></o:p><=
/p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</spa=
n><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">On De=
c 15, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetic=
a&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Wow, that's great in the first place, that h=
e is pursuing this wonderful trade.&nbsp; Congratulations to you, and to you=
r son.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">Such an awesome offer.&nbsp; I purchased, at great exp=
ense, that socket you are talking about.&nbsp; Never used it.&nbsp; If he co=
uld use it for guidance, I'd be glad to loan it to him.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o=
:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</sp=
an><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">=
As to other ideas, I have none to offer at the moment, but as soon as your s=
on gets booked up, I know I'll think of something.</span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o=
:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Thanks for=
 thinking up a great offer, though!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;=
Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></=
div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">#2Steve K</span><o:p></o:=
p></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid black 1=
.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-ri=
ght:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">----=
- Original Message -----</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:#E4E4E4"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><sp=
an class=3D"apple-converted-space"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" title=3D"mailto:strovato@optonline.=
net"><span style=3D"color:purple">Steven Trovato</span></a></span><o:p></o:p=
></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">To:</span></b=
><span class=3D"apple-converted-space"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;"><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" title=3D"mailto:zmagnette@aut=
ox.team.net"><span style=3D"color:purple">List for the Z Magnette Group - No=
rth America</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;=
,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Sent:</span></b><span class=3D"apple-converted-spac=
e"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:55 P=
M</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&qu=
ot;">Subject:</span></b><span class=3D"apple-converted-space"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbs=
p;</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot=
;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">[Zmagnette] Machinist projects</span><o:p></o:p></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5=
pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;</span><o=
:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">My son is=
 in college in a two year program to become a machinist.&nbsp; It<span class=
=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>seems that he needs some proposa=
ls for projects he can do there.&nbsp; As<span class=3D"apple-converted-spac=
e">&nbsp;</span><br>the one paying the tuition, I get to suggest something t=
hat would be<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>of use to=
 me and my MGs.&nbsp; One thought I had was to make a nice socket<span class=
=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>for the octagon shaped rear axle=
 nut.&nbsp; Does anyone else have any<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&=
nbsp;</span><br>ideas for any cool stuff I could suggest?&nbsp; There's no g=
uarantee that<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>he will d=
o it, as the project would have to fit in with the goals of<span class=3D"ap=
ple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>the course work.&nbsp; So, what would y=
ou guys do if you had a machinist<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp=
;</span><br>at your disposal?&nbsp; Note that this is not an automotive mach=
inist<span class=3D"apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>program, so they=
 are not set up for operations on engine blocks,<span class=3D"apple-convert=
ed-space">&nbsp;</span><br>crankshafts, etc.<br><br>-Steve T.<br><br>_______=
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