Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Shipping car parts from England List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <[email-masked]> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>

From: "Paul Barrow" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:14:44 -0800

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Steve

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The first thing to clear up is that shipping anything anywhere now is damne=
d
expensive and frankly given the dimensions (not the weight) as I ship and
have stuff shipped to me from all over the world I am not actually surprise=
d
at the prices.  Sadly it is the price of doing business internationally.

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OK, now we have that out of the way, let me add a kicker - when it gets her=
e
you will be pleased to note that most imports of these dimensions attract
massive and intrusive Federal investigations.  Yes the Department of
Homeland Insecurity will get in on the deal and they will want to know wher=
e
the parts originated from and where all the component pieces originated fro=
m
(we all know rubber comes from trees right?? But don=92t try telling them t=
hat
- they want to know it came from Ceylon!!).  And if you don=92t know, the b=
est
answer I have is that to the best of my knowledge and belief it all comes
from the UK. =20

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If that were all, you would be home and dry =85 but now they want to hose y=
ou
too for IMPORT DUTY and will charge you 5 =96 10% of not only the cost of t=
he
parts but also the shipping cost to help fund more waste on your behalf =85
but this is just the way it is.  Be glad you live in the US and pay it
because in the UK it is 5% then they add 20% VAT (France 25%).  If you pay
the shipping here then it is $0.00 that they have to assess!!

=20

So where to go for a good shipping price =96 If I am in charge I use
www.parcelflight.co.uk <http://www.parcelflight.co.uk/>  as they are the
best I have come up against.

=20

Hope that answers your question and does so in a light hearted way.

=20

Paul

=20

Paul Barrow

153 Clemons Road

Montesano, WA 98563 USA

+1 360 249 5123 Landline

+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone

+1 360 249 3776 Fax

[email-masked]

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Steven Trovato
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:27 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [Zmagnette] Shipping car parts from England

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The short version is, I am trying to figure out=20

the best way to have a package shipped to me from=20

England to New York.  Read on for the gory details.

=20

About 4 years ago, I purchased an exhaust system=20

from NTG.  For comparison, the shipping was=20

=A362.60 which I was told was the 10 - 15kg=20

rate.  I am currently attempting to have=20

something shipped to me from a private party in=20

the UK.   The package is 127cm x 16cm x 10cm  and=20

about 10kg.  I am trying to figure out how to=20

have it shipped for a reasonable price.  I don't=20

care how slow it is.  I went to the royal mail=20

website, which has a link to parcelforce=20

worldwide.  This seems to be where you have to go=20

to ship things more than 2 kg.  I entered in my=20

data and got a quote of  globalvalue service, 5-9=20

days, =A3104.20.  I tried Fedex, which gave me=20

crazy quotes > $300 with a footnote that they do=20

not offer services from the origin or destination=20

city at this time.  Not sure how they can say=20

that and still list a price.  DHL came back with=20

a message that they won't take a package longer=20

than 120cm.  UPS Expedited showed a price of=20

=A394.71.  I then read about some "freight=20

consolidator" services.  I found=20

parcel2go.com.  There I got a quote for express=20

saver service at =A346.40.  Now, that's a little=20

more like it.  Does anyone have any experience=20

with this service or others like it?  Does anyone=20

have any experience with this sort of=20

international shipping?  Words of wisdom are=20

welcome!  I have bought things from the UK=20

before, but it was always from companies.  They=20

would tell me the shipping cost and that was=20

that.  This is the first time I have had to get=20

more involved in the process.  Thanks.

=20

-Steve T.

=20

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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The first thing to clear up is=
 that
shipping anything anywhere now is damned expensive and frankly given the di=
mensions
(not the weight) as I ship and have stuff shipped to me from all over the w=
orld
I am not actually surprised at the prices.=A0 Sadly it is the price of doin=
g
business internationally.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>OK, now we have that out of th=
e way,
let me add a kicker - when it gets here you will be pleased to note that mo=
st
imports of these dimensions attract massive and intrusive Federal
investigations. =A0Yes the Department of Homeland Insecurity will get in on=
 the deal
and they will want to know where the parts originated from and where all th=
e
component pieces originated from (we all know rubber comes from trees right=
?? But
don&#8217;t try telling them that - they want to know it came from <st1:cou=
ntry-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">Ceylon</st1:place></st1:country-region>!=
!). =A0And
if you don&#8217;t know, the best answer I have is that to the best of my
knowledge and <b><u><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>belief it all comes fr=
om the
<st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:=
country-region></span></u></b>.
=A0<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If that were all, you would be=
 home
and dry &#8230; but now they want to hose you too for IMPORT DUTY and will
charge you 5 &#8211; 10% of not only the cost of the parts but also the
shipping cost to help fund more waste on your behalf &#8230; but this is ju=
st
the way it is. =A0Be glad you live in the <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">U=
S</st1:country-region>
and pay it because in the <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=
=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>
it is 5% then they add 20% VAT (France 25%).=A0 If you pay the shipping her=
e then
it is $0.00 that they have to assess!!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>So where to go for a good ship=
ping
price &#8211; If I am in charge I use <a href=3D"http://www.parcelflight.co=
uk/">www.parcelflight.co.uk</a>
as they are the best I have come up against.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hope that answers your questio=
n and does
so in a light hearted way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font=
></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Paul Barrow<o:p></o:p></span><=
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<p class=3DMsoPlainText><st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on"><f=
ont
  size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:Arial'>153
  Clemons Road</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><font face=3DArial><=
span
lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on"><font =
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  face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ari=
al'>Montesano</span></font></st1:City><font
 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-family:Arial'>, <st1:State w=
:st=3D"on">WA</st1:State>
 <st1:PostalCode w:st=3D"on">98563</st1:PostalCode> <st1:country-region w:s=
t=3D"on">USA</st1:country-region></span></font></st1:place><font
face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>+1 360 249 5123 Landline<o:p><=
/o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone<o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>+1 360 249 3776 Fax<o:p></o:p>=
</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>[email-masked]<o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span style=3D'=
font-size:
10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Steven Trovato<br>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 3:27 PM<br>
To: [email-masked]<br>
Subject: [Zmagnette] Shipping car parts from <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on=
"><st1:place
 w:st=3D"on">England</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>The short version is, I am trying to figure out =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>the best way to have a package shipped to me fro=
m <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2
 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-GB style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>England=
</span></font></st1:country-region><span
lang=3DEN-GB> to <st1:State w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">New York</st=
1:place></st1:State>.=A0
Read on for the gory details.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>About 4 years ago, I purchased an exhaust system=
 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>from NTG.=A0 For comparison, the shipping was <o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>=A362.60 which I was told was the 10 - 15kg <o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>rate.=A0 I am currently attempting to have <o:p>=
</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>something shipped to me from a private party in =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>the <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w=
:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>.=A0=A0
The package is 127cm x 16cm x 10cm=A0 and <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>about 10kg.=A0 I am trying to figure out how to =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>have it shipped for a reasonable price.=A0 I don=
't <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>care how slow it is.=A0 I went to the royal mail=
 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>website, which has a link to parcelforce <o:p></=
o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>worldwide.=A0 This seems to be where you have to=
 go <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>to ship things more than 2 kg.=A0 I entered in m=
y <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>data and got a quote of=A0 globalvalue service, =
5-9 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>days, =A3104.20.=A0 I tried Fedex, which gave me=
 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>crazy quotes &gt; $300 with a footnote that they=
 do <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>not offer services from the origin or destinatio=
n <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>city at this time.=A0 Not sure how they can say =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>that and still list a price.=A0 DHL came back wi=
th <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>a message that they won't take a package longer =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>than 120cm.=A0 UPS Expedited showed a price of <=
o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>=A394.71.=A0 I then read about some &quot;freigh=
t <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>consolidator&quot; services.=A0 I found <o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>parcel2go.com.=A0 There I got a quote for expres=
s <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>saver service at =A346.40.=A0 Now, that's a litt=
le <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>more like it.=A0 Does anyone have any experience=
 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>with this service or others like it?=A0 Does any=
one <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>have any experience with this sort of <o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>international shipping?=A0 Words of wisdom are <=
o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>welcome!=A0 I have bought things from the <st1:c=
ountry-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> <o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>before, but it was always from companies.=A0 The=
y <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>would tell me the shipping cost and that was <o:=
p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>that.=A0 This is the first time I have had to ge=
t <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoPlainText><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>more involved in the process.=A0 Thanks.<o:p></o=
:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>-Steve T.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Thanks Paul.  I'll check out that link.  Does all=20
of this same stuff apply to ancient rusty used=20
parts?  To the untrained eye, this stuff will=20
look like scrap.  When I have had stuff shipped=20
before, mostly new stuff, I've never had to pay=20
any import duty.  The sender puts one of those=20
little green cards on the package stating the=20
contents and value.  Is there some threshold that=20
triggers an import duty?  I didn't pay any when I bought the exhaust system.

-Steve T.

At 07:14 PM 11/16/2013, Paul Barrow wrote:
>Steve
>
>The first thing to clear up is that shipping=20
>anything anywhere now is damned expensive and=20
>frankly given the dimensions (not the weight) as=20
>I ship and have stuff shipped to me from all=20
>over the world I am not actually surprised at=20
>the prices.  Sadly it is the price of doing business internationally.
>
>OK, now we have that out of the way, let me add=20
>a kicker - when it gets here you will be pleased=20
>to note that most imports of these dimensions=20
>attract massive and intrusive Federal=20
>investigations.  Yes the Department of Homeland=20
>Insecurity will get in on the deal and they will=20
>want to know where the parts originated from and=20
>where all the component pieces originated from=20
>(we all know rubber comes from trees right?? But=20
>don=92t try telling them that - they want to know=20
>it came from Ceylon!!).  And if you don=92t know,=20
>the best answer I have is that to the best of my=20
>knowledge and belief it all comes from the UK.
>
>If that were all, you would be home and dry =85=20
>but now they want to hose you too for IMPORT=20
>DUTY and will charge you 5 =96 10% of not only the=20
>cost of the parts but also the shipping cost to=20
>help fund more waste on your behalf =85 but this=20
>is just the way it is.  Be glad you live in the=20
>US and pay it because in the UK it is 5% then=20
>they add 20% VAT (France 25%).  If you pay the=20
>shipping here then it is $0.00 that they have to assess!!
>
>So where to go for a good shipping price =96 If I=20
>am in charge I use=20
><http://www.parcelflight.couk/>www.parcelflight.co.uk=20
>as they are the best I have come up against.
>

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Thanks Paul.&nbsp; I'll check out that link.&nbsp; Does all of this same
stuff apply to ancient rusty used parts?&nbsp; To the untrained eye, this
stuff will look like scrap.&nbsp; When I have had stuff shipped before,
mostly new stuff, I've never had to pay any import duty.&nbsp; The sender
puts one of those little green cards on the package stating the contents
and value.&nbsp; Is there some threshold that triggers an import
duty?&nbsp; I didn't pay any when I bought the exhaust system.  <br><br>
-Steve T.<br><br>
At 07:14 PM 11/16/2013, Paul Barrow wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D""><font size=3D2>Steve<br>
&nbsp;<br>
The first thing to clear up is that shipping anything anywhere now is
damned expensive and frankly given the dimensions (not the weight) as I
ship and have stuff shipped to me from all over the world I am not
actually surprised at the prices.&nbsp; Sadly it is the price of doing
business internationally.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
OK, now we have that out of the way, let me add a kicker - when it gets
here you will be pleased to note that most imports of these dimensions
attract massive and intrusive Federal investigations.&nbsp; Yes the
Department of Homeland Insecurity will get in on the deal and they will
want to know where the parts originated from and where all the component
pieces originated from (we all know rubber comes from trees right?? But
don=92t try telling them that - they want to know it came from
Ceylon!!).&nbsp; And if you don=92t know, the best answer I have is that to
the best of my knowledge and <b><u>belief it all comes from the
UK</u></b>.&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;<br>
If that were all, you would be home and dry =85 but now they want to hose
you too for IMPORT DUTY and will charge you 5 =96 10% of not only the cost
of the parts but also the shipping cost to help fund more waste on your
behalf =85 but this is just the way it is.&nbsp; Be glad you live in the US
and pay it because in the UK it is 5% then they add 20% VAT (France
25%).&nbsp; If you pay the shipping here then it is $0.00 that they have
to assess!!<br>
&nbsp;<br>
So where to go for a good shipping price =96 If I am in charge I use
<a href=3D"http://www.parcelflight.couk/">www.parcelflight.co.uk</a> as
they are the best I have come up against.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Hope that answers your question and does so in a light hearted way.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Paul<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Paul Barrow<br>
153 Clemons Road<br>
Montesano</font>, WA 98563 USA<br>
<font size=3D2>+1 360 249 5123 Landline<br>
+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone<br>
+1 360 249 3776 Fax<br>
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Paul,

I found this duty calculating website,=20
dutycalculator.com, and entered in the=20
details.  It said import duty for this is 2.5%=20
and duty result is nil because the total value does not exceed US$200.00.

-Steve T.

>shipping here then it is $0.00 that they have to assess!!

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Paul,<br><br>
I found this duty calculating website, dutycalculator.com, and entered in
the details.&nbsp; It said import duty for this is 2.5% and duty result
is nil because the total value does not exceed US$200.00.<br><br>
-Steve T.<br><br>
At 07:14 PM 11/16/2013, Paul Barrow wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D""><font size=3D2>If that were a=
ll,
you would be home and dry =85 but now they want to hose you too for IMPORT
DUTY and will charge you 5 =96 10% of not only the cost of the parts but
also the shipping cost to help fund more waste on your behalf =85 but this
is just the way it is.&nbsp; Be glad you live in the US and pay it
because in the UK it is 5% then they add 20% VAT (France 25%).&nbsp; If
you pay the shipping here then it is $0.00 that they have to
assess!!</font></blockquote></body>
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