Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] List response time List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <[email-masked]> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>

From: "Paul Barrow" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 23:21:03 -0700

I have a big old DELETE button on my keyboard but right now I am so fed up
with all the garbage I am getting I am seriously thinking of quitting the
list.

If you STILL have issues - talk to the list organizer or someone who cares.
I don't and I don't want to see another email on this subject addressed to
the general list apart from others who feel the same way.

Paul Barrow
153 Clemons Road
Montesano, WA 98563 USA
+1 360 249 5123 Landline
+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone
+1 360 249 3776 Fax
[email-masked]

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Steven Trovato
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:30 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] List response time

Allen,

Yes, everyone is getting a bit cranky because such a high percentage 
of zmagnette traffic is currently about list issues and not about 
Magnettes.  It's a valid complaint, but it is temporary and we will 
get back to our usual Magnette talk.

As for list hosts, Mark does a really great job hosting several lists 
I participate in.  Generally speaking, they work pretty well.  I 
wouldn't be too quick to jump ship at this point.  Do you have 
something better?  When I first brought this up on Monday, Mark 
immediately responded that there is a problem, it has to do with the 
program that translates between IP addresses and names, and he's 
looking into it.  He also said that a new machine to run the 
nameserver would help.  Why don't we see how much it would cost to do 
that?  We really haven't been here very long.  Give the guy a 
break.  Let's see how this goes for a while and what Mark comes up with.

-Steve T.

At 01:07 AM 11/1/2013, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>Regarding slow response time, we know the current service is 
>INCONSISTENT.  I'm tired of reading responses to emails I have yet 
>to receive.  I'm tired of wasting my time writing responses only to 
>find somebody wrote the necessary response before I wasted my time 
>on it but didn't find out until the next morning.  So I favor a 
>different host. How do we solve that without bringing it up on the 
>list?  In a transition period like this, some discussion is 
>necessary.  I just want a list that works.  This one does not.  Am I 
>asking too much?

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From: John MArcell <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 07:50:39 -0500

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I agree too much about things other than cars

Phil

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 31, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Richard Greenberg <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
>=20
> I propose that we keep our topics about Magnettes, and stop sending messag=
es to the Magnette list that only have to do with how the email list works. =
 If there are technical problems with the list server, send a message to the=
 person in charge of the tech management of the list, not to the whole list.=
  If you want to experiment with sending pictures or speed tests, do it with=
 people off the list.
>=20
> I love all the stuff I learn from you folks about Magnettes.  But nothing i=
s more boring than a bazillion messages about how to use email and the inter=
net and image processing.
>=20
> --Rick
>=20
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Gene deRuelle wrote:
>>=20
>> Amen !!!!
>> =20
>> Gene deRuelle
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Arch Boston
>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:29 PM
>>=20
>> At the risk of seeing old, which I am, in the grand scheme of things, wha=
t difference does 15-20-30 minutes mean.  I remember air mail taking a coupl=
e of days --- and that was FAST!  Enough about slow transmission.  If speed w=
as important none of us would be playing with "old slow "cars.  Arch
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPad
>>=20
>> On Oct 31, 2013, at 6:29 PM, "John Park" <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Enough with the list times etc. Reply to the sender only PLEASE!
>>> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]=
eam.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:08 PM
>>> Fletcher,
>>> Interesting that you got my 8:22 PM note at 8:26.  I didn't get it until=
 8:04 this morning!  But before I went to bed last night, I received Charlie=
's 9:42 PM note (at 10:03 PM), his 10:04 PM note (at 10:06 PM), Perkin's 12:=
42 PM note (at 10:08 PM - over nine hours later), and Kurt's 11:28 PM note a=
t 12:08 AM. =20
>>> And your  8:52 PM reply to my note?  ' Showed up here at 10:08 this morn=
ing.
>>> Go figure!
>>> Allen
>>> ****************************************************************
>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>>> North Street, MI 48049, USA
>>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>>> ****************************************************************
>>> On Oct 30, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> And just think - those are the people saying Lucas is bad!
>>> This 8:22 got here about 8:26, much better than your messages the other n=
ight which were 30-45 minutes.
>>> It is my understanding that the routing on the internet can be tortuous,=
 with stuff getting delayed at any point along the way, so it could be eithe=
r - or neither - end. Sequential messages do not necessarily travel the same=
 route. I expect a fly by night local ISP could be a factor in this, as it m=
ust interface with a "real" internet doofus.
>>> I do get email from certain sources that always arrives much later than (=
claimed) sent  time - Rock Auto is one.=20
>>>=20
>>> Can you get send/receive info from the Digest version?
>>>=20
>>> FRM
>>>=20
>>> On 10/30/2013 8:22 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>>> I'm seeing erratic response times: some later responses coming in hours b=
efore some earlier ones.  ' Could tolerate the delay much more easily if it w=
ere consistent.  I'm talking delays of much more than 30-45 minutes.  I'll w=
rite a reply about this time in the evening and it might not show up for 20-=
24 hours.  In the meantime, other replies are coming in hours earlier, to qu=
estions posed later.  Tonight I received two or three replies before I recei=
ved the questions involved.   Somebody sent in a picture.  I have a reply fr=
om somebody else who reports seeing it, but I haven't received the picture p=
ost yet...
>>> ' Don't think we're there yet...
>>> Allen
>>> ****************************************************************
>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>>> North Street, MI 48049, USA
>>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>>> ****************************************************************
>>> On Oct 28, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Steven Trovato wrote:
>>>=20
>>> OK, so I responded to two different messages on this list.  I sent them t=
hree minutes apart.  I received one from the list about 10-15 minutes later.=
  The other didn't show up for 30-45 minutes.  Can anyone explain to me why t=
his is?  What is causing such a long delay?  I'm sending this one at 7:10pm E=
astern Time.  Now we'll see if everyone gets this at 7:11pm just to make a l=
iar out of me.   :-)
>>>=20
>>> No, you are not imagining things, there can be some long delays in mail g=
etting sent out from
>>> the server.  At the  moment the bottleneck seems to be mostly software r=
elated.  The program
>>> that translates between IP addresses and names is not responding as quic=
kly as it should.  And
>>> with all the lists and all the addresses hostname lookups are a major fa=
ctor in the Team.Net
>>> mailing list software.
>>>=20
>>> I'm looking into it.  Come the spring fund drive I may specifically requ=
est assistance with a new
>>> machine to run the nameserver, the current one is getting a bit long in t=
he tooth.  Donate
>>> early, donate often ;-)
>>>=20
>>> I may be able to improve things a bit later this week, we shall see. At l=
east the mail does
>>> eventually go through.  Using something like http://www.team.net/forums w=
ould not have
>>> this issue, but a lot of folks prefer email.
>>>=20
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>>>=20
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