Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster <[email-masked]> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>

From: Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 20:56:03 -0500

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Something just occurred to me - it's a question that can be answered in =
three ways as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in the roster? =
 We can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members.  Granted that NAMGAR =
does the registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it might be handy =
and/or fun to have our own casual records.  Maybe, for example, we'll =
discover we have some sequentially-related cars. More seriously, we may =
discover some subtle mid-model changes that affect technical concerns.  =
I'll propose that each of us can pursue this at his/her option, unless =
Mike finds a glitch in being able to include this in the data. It would =
be neat to be able to search our cars by chassis number. If the data is =
available in the roster, Mike need do nothing more, a member can simply =
import the data to an Excel file, allowing one to  organize and search =
by chassis number. =20

This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a modest response =
will tell the story and I'll let it go.  It's no big deal...

Cheers,
Allen
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Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =3Diii=3D<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
North Street, MI 48049, USA
http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
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On Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike wrote:

> Howdy all,
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> That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came =
out in July, so we're about due for a new one.
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> But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new =
members since July. So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're =
an old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. =
Here's what can go into it:
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> Your first name, middle initial, and last name.
> Your SO's first & last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one =
has ever asked for that.)
> Address: Street, city, state/province, postal code, country.
> Up to two phone numbers
> Email address
> Special-interest cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)
> Services provided
> Comments
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> Cars are recorded like so: Year, Make, Model, Color, Status
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> Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's =
exterior top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the =
entry for my car, an Old English White over Birch Grey Varitone with =
maroon interior:
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> Year: 1958  Make: MG  Model: ZBV  Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon  =
Status: Always a driver
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> You don't have to worry about the formatting; I'll take care of that.
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> For Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. =
Entries range from "Tools, some parts, can come out & help, limited =
garage space." to "Cold beer on hand at all times."
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> Comments can be anything else you'd care to add.
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> And it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, =
and the line for his Magnette. Other people include all their =
special-interest cars (we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and =
some history.
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> If you haven't already, send me your info now, while we're all still =
thinking of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next month.
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> Let me know at [email-masked] if you have any questions. Please =
don't reply to the group and spam everyone.
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> Thanks!
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> Mike Jacobsen
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> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 11/27/13, Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member
> To: "zmagnette" <[email-masked]>, "John Taft" =
<[email-masked]>
> Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM
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> Everybody...=20
> ... Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us =
when the next revision is coming out. ...
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">Something just occurred to me - it's a question that can be answered =
in three ways as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in the =
roster? &nbsp;We can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members. =
&nbsp;Granted that NAMGAR does the registration aspects of ZMG, but on =
occasion it might be handy and/or fun to have our own casual records. =
&nbsp;Maybe, for example, we'll discover we have some =
sequentially-related cars. More seriously, we may discover some subtle =
mid-model changes that affect technical concerns. &nbsp;I'll propose =
that each of us can pursue this at his/her option, unless Mike finds a =
glitch in being able to include this in the data. It would be neat to be =
able to search our cars by chassis number. If the data is available in =
the roster, Mike need do nothing more, a member can simply import the =
data to an Excel file, allowing one to &nbsp;organize and search by =
chassis number. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>This may be of little concern =
to most of us. If so, a modest response will tell the story and I'll let =
it go. &nbsp;It's no big =
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<br><div><div>On Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Howdy =
all,<br><br>That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last =
version came out in July, so we're about due for a new one.<br><br>But =
I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new =
members since July. So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're =
an old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. =
Here's what can go into it:<br><br>Your first name, middle initial, and =
last name.<br>Your SO's first &amp; last name. (SO's don't get middle =
initials - no one has ever asked for that.)<br>Address: Street, city, =
state/province, postal code, country.<br>Up to two phone =
numbers<br>Email address<br>Special-interest cars (no 2010 Toyota =
Camrys, e.g.)<br>Services provided<br>Comments<br><br>Cars are recorded =
like so: Year, Make, Model, Color, Status<br><br>Colors are shown =
exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior top/exterior =
bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my car, an Old =
English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon =
interior:<br><br>Year: 1958 &nbsp;Make: MG &nbsp;Model: ZBV &nbsp;Color: =
OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon &nbsp;Status: Always a driver<br><br>You don't =
have to worry about the formatting; I'll take care of that.<br><br>For =
Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. Entries =
range from "Tools, some parts, can come out &amp; help, limited garage =
space." to "Cold beer on hand at all times."<br><br>Comments can be =
anything else you'd care to add.<br><br>And it's all optional. One =
person just has his name, email address, and the line for his Magnette. =
Other people include all their special-interest cars (we don't list =
motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some history.<br><br>If you haven't =
already, send me your info now, while we're all still thinking of it, =
and I'll send out an updated roster next month.<br><br>Let me know at <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> if you =
have any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam =
everyone.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Mike =
Jacobsen<br><br>--------------------------------------------<br>On Wed, =
11/27/13, Allen Bachelder &lt;<a =
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Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM<br><br> Everybody...&nbsp;<br>... =
Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when =
the next revision is coming out. =
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There is no chassis it's a monocoque. Do you mean the serial number for the
car or the body number? I'm not sure if it's only Varitones that have body
numbers or if they all have a body number. Maybe we should do engine numbers
too? Just some more thoughts/questions.

From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:56 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster

Something just occurred to me - it's a question that can be answered in
three ways as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in the roster?  We
can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members.  Granted that NAMGAR does
the registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it might be handy and/or
fun to have our own casual records.  Maybe, for example, we'll discover we
have some sequentially-related cars. More seriously, we may discover some
subtle mid-model changes that affect technical concerns.  I'll propose that
each of us can pursue this at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in
being able to include this in the data. It would be neat to be able to
search our cars by chassis number. If the data is available in the roster,
Mike need do nothing more, a member can simply import the data to an Excel
file, allowing one to  organize and search by chassis number.  

This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a modest response will
tell the story and I'll let it go.  It's no big deal...

Cheers,

Allen

Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs

Howdy all,

That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in
July, so we're about due for a new one.

But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new
members since July. So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're an
old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. Here's
what can go into it:

Your first name, middle initial, and last name.
Your SO's first & last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one has
ever asked for that.)
Address: Street, city, state/province, postal code, country.
Up to two phone numbers
Email address
Special-interest cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)
Services provided
Comments

Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior
top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my
car, an Old English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon interior:

Year: 1958  Make: MG  Model: ZBV  Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon  Status:
Always a driver

For Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. Entries
range from "Tools, some parts, can come out & help, limited garage space."
to "Cold beer on hand at all times."

And it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and the
line for his Magnette. Other people include all their special-interest cars
(we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some history.

If you haven't already, send me your info now, while we're all still
thinking of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next month.

have any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam everyone.

Thanks!

Mike Jacobsen

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 11/27/13, Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]

Everybody... 
... Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when
the next revision is coming out. ...

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[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen =
Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:56 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North =
America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
Roster<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Something =
just occurred to me - it's a question that can be answered in three ways =
as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in the roster? &nbsp;We =
can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members. &nbsp;Granted that =
NAMGAR does the registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it might be =
handy and/or fun to have our own casual records. &nbsp;Maybe, for =
example, we'll discover we have some sequentially-related cars. More =
seriously, we may discover some subtle mid-model changes that affect =
technical concerns. &nbsp;I'll propose that each of us can pursue this =
at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in being able to include =
this in the data. It would be neat to be able to search our cars by =
chassis number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike need do =
nothing more, a member can simply import the data to an Excel file, =
allowing one to &nbsp;organize and search by chassis number. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a =
modest response will tell the story and I'll let it go. &nbsp;It's no =
big deal...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
=3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs</span></i></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
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'>North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span =
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'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
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style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><a =
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nce.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><span =
class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><d=
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<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>****************************************************************</span>=
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
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v></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Howdy all,<br><br>That's a darn good =
idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in July, so we're =
about due for a new one.<br><br>But I've been lax, and haven't gathered =
any info from most of the new members since July. So, if you joined in =
the past half year, or you're an old-timer that never subscribed to the =
Roster, send me your info now. Here's what can go into it:<br><br>Your =
first name, middle initial, and last name.<br>Your SO's first &amp; last =
name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one has ever asked for =
that.)<br>Address: Street, city, state/province, postal code, =
country.<br>Up to two phone numbers<br>Email address<br>Special-interest =
cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)<br>Services =
provided<br>Comments<br><br>Cars are recorded like so: Year, Make, =
Model, Color, Status<br><br>Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For =
two-tone cars, it's exterior top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an =
example, here's the entry for my car, an Old English White over Birch =
Grey Varitone with maroon interior:<br><br>Year: 1958 &nbsp;Make: MG =
&nbsp;Model: ZBV &nbsp;Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon &nbsp;Status: =
Always a driver<br><br>You don't have to worry about the formatting; =
I'll take care of that.<br><br>For Services, people tend to write about =
help they can provide. Entries range from &quot;Tools, some parts, can =
come out &amp; help, limited garage space.&quot; to &quot;Cold beer on =
hand at all times.&quot;<br><br>Comments can be anything else you'd care =
to add.<br><br>And it's all optional. One person just has his name, =
email address, and the line for his Magnette. Other people include all =
their special-interest cars (we don't list motorcycles or =
&quot;regular&quot; cars) and some history.<br><br>If you haven't =
already, send me your info now, while we're all still thinking of it, =
and I'll send out an updated roster next month.<br><br>Let me know at <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> if you =
have any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam =
everyone.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Mike =
Jacobsen<br><br>--------------------------------------------<br>On Wed, =
11/27/13, Allen Bachelder &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br><br>Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member<br>To: =
&quot;zmagnette&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
, &quot;John Taft&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Date: =
Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM<br><br>Everybody...&nbsp;<br>... =
Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when =
the next revision is coming out. =
...<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Zmagnette =
mailing list<br><br>Donate: <a =
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ubscribe/Manage: <a =
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net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/[email-masked]=
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Hi John

You are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect in that
the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number (the KAE. bit)
is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense Allen is completely
correct.

Paul

Paul Barrow

153 Clemons Road

Montesano, WA 98563 USA

+1 360 249 5123 Landline

+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone

+1 360 249 3776 Fax

[email-masked]

  _____  

From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of John Park
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:45 PM
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster

Cheers,

Allen

Howdy all,

But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new
members since July So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're an
old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. Here's
what can go into it:

Let me know at [email-masked] if you have any questions. Please don't
reply to the group and spam everyone.

Thanks!

Mike Jacobsen

Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member
To: "zmagnette" <[email-masked]>, "John Taft" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM

Everybody... 
... Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when
the next revision is coming out. ....

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi John<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You are correct in that they are monoc=
oque
however you are incorrect in that the British Industry Motor Heritage refer=
s to
the VIN number (the KAE&#8230; bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Numbe=
r so
in a sense Allen is completely correct.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Paul Barrow</span></font><font color=
=3Dnavy><span
style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address w:st=3D"on"><font=
 size=3D2
  color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ari=
al;
  color:navy'>153 Clemons Road</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><fon=
t
color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City w:st=3D"on"><font siz=
e=3D2
  color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ari=
al;
  color:navy'>Montesano</span></font></st1:City><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy
 face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'=
>, <st1:State
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de> <st1:country-region
 w:st=3D"on">USA</st1:country-region></span></font></st1:place><font color=
=3Dnavy><span
style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>+1 360 249 5123 Landline</span></font>=
<font
color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone</span></fon=
t><font
color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>+1 360 249 3776 Fax</span></font><font
color=3Dnavy><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a href=3D"mailto:Paul.Barrow@centuryt=
el.net">[email-masked]</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
[email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] =
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Park<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 28,=
 2013
6:45 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st=3D=
"on">List
 for the Z Magnette Group - <st1:place w:st=3D"on">North America</st1:place=
></st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG
Roster</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3D"#1f497d" face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#1F497D'>There is no chas=
sis
it&#8217;s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial number for the car or the bo=
dy
number? I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s only Varitones that have body numb=
ers
or if they all have a body number. Maybe we should do engine numbers too? J=
ust
some more thoughts/questions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-s=
ize:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=3D2
face=3DCalibri><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>
[email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] =
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Allen Bachelder<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 27=
, 2013
8:56 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st=3D"=
on">List
 for the Z Magnette Group - North America</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG
Roster<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>Something just occurred to me - it's a question that can be answere=
d in
three ways as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in the roster?
&nbsp;We can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members. &nbsp;Granted that
NAMGAR does the registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it might be ha=
ndy
and/or fun to have our own casual records. &nbsp;Maybe, for example, we'll
discover we have some sequentially-related cars. More seriously, we may
discover some subtle mid-model changes that affect technical concerns.
&nbsp;I'll propose that each of us can pursue this at his/her option, unles=
s
Mike finds a glitch in being able to include this in the data. It would be =
neat
to be able to search our cars by chassis number. If the data is available i=
n
the roster, Mike need do nothing more, a member can simply import the data =
to
an Excel file, allowing one to &nbsp;organize and search by chassis number.
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
12.0pt'>This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a modest respon=
se
will tell the story and I'll let it go. &nbsp;It's no big deal...<o:p></o:p=
></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Howdy all,<br>
<br>
That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in
July, so we're about due for a new one.<br>
<br>
But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new membe=
rs
since July So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're an old-timer =
that
never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. Here's what can go i=
nto
it:<br>
<br>
Your first name, middle initial, and last name.<br>
Your SO's first &amp; last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one h=
as
ever asked for that.)<br>
Address: Street, city, state/province, postal code, country.<br>
Up to two phone numbers<br>
Email address<br>
Special-interest cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)<br>
Services provided<br>
Comments<br>
<br>
Cars are recorded like so: Year, Make, Model, Color, Status<br>
<br>
Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior
top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my ca=
r,
an Old English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon interior:<br>
<br>
Year: 1958 &nbsp;Make: MG &nbsp;Model: ZBV &nbsp;Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ m=
aroon
&nbsp;Status: Always a driver<br>
<br>
You don't have to worry about the formatting; I'll take care of that.<br>
<br>
For Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. Entries ran=
ge
from &quot;Tools, some parts, can come out &amp; help, limited garage
space.&quot; to &quot;Cold beer on hand at all times.&quot;<br>
<br>
Comments can be anything else you'd care to add.<br>
<br>
And it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and the
line for his Magnette. Other people include all their special-interest cars=
 (we
don't list motorcycles or &quot;regular&quot; cars) and some history.<br>
<br>
If you haven't already, send me your info now, while we're all still thinki=
ng
of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next month.<br>
<br>
Let me know at <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
om</a>
if you have any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam everyon=
e.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
<br>
Mike Jacobsen<br>
<br>
--------------------------------------------<br>
On Wed, 11/27/13, Allen Bachelder &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
wrote:<br>
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Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member<br>
To: &quot;zmagnette&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">z=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;,
&quot;John Taft&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">jtaft89@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;<br>
Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM<br>
<br>=0D=0AEverybody...&nbsp;<br>
... Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when=
 the
next revision is coming out. ....<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Zmagnette mailing list<br>
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ate.html</a><br>
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a><br>
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Hi Paul,

            Thanks for the "language" lesson. Always nice to have someone
explain how others do things versus what is familiar to ourselves. What can
you tell me about the body numbers? Do all Z's have one or only the
Varitones? Mine is something like 7595. I have to dig out some paperwork to
find it as the problem painter failed to mask the number plate and it is
very hard to decipher a number in  its current state. I'm torn between
leaving it as is or sanding the paint off to see the number. It is located
on the driver's side inner fender near the  upper lip about 2 feet from the
builder's plate.

            Regards,

            John

From: [email-masked]
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Paul Barrow
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:56 PM
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster

Hi John

Paul

Paul Barrow

153 Clemons Road

Montesano, WA 98563 USA

+1 360 249 5123 Landline

+1 360 249 3776 Fax

  _____  

Cheers,

Allen

Howdy all,

Thanks!

Mike Jacobsen

Everybody... 

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>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Thanks for the &#8220;language&#8221; lesson. Always nice to have =
someone explain how others do things versus what is familiar to =
ourselves. What can you tell me about the body numbers? Do all Z&#8217;s =
have one or only the Varitones? Mine is something like 7595. I have to =
dig out some paperwork to find it as the problem painter failed to mask =
the number plate and it is very hard to decipher a number in&nbsp; its =
current state. I&#8217;m torn between leaving it as is or sanding the =
paint off to see the number. It is located on the driver&#8217;s side =
inner fender near the&nbsp; upper lip about 2 feet from the =
builder&#8217;s plate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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[email-masked] =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul =
Barrow<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Zmagnette] ZMG Roster<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Hi=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Yo=
u are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect in =
that the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number (the =
KAE&#8230; bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense =
Allen is completely correct.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Pa=
ul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o=
:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Pa=
ul Barrow</span><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>15=
3 Clemons Road</span><span style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Mo=
ntesano, WA 98563 USA</span><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>+1=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>+1=
 360 500 9389 Cell phone</span><span =
style=3D'color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>+1=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><a=
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
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style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" =
align=3Dcenter></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">zmagnette-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:zmagnette-bounces=
@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Park<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'List for the Z =
Magnette Group - North America'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
Roster</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">zmagnette-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:zmagnette-bounces=
@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> List for the Z =
Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
style=3D'font-size:90.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:blac=
k'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><blockquote =
any info from most of the new members since July So, if you joined in =
....<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Zmagnette =
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John,

Every Magnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis number. As=
 near as I can tell from my readings, the body number had significance to th=
e Pressed Steel body plant, probably to track batches of bodies before they w=
ere despached to Abingdon for final assembly and the assignment of a chassis=
/car number. The body number of my Magnette is 29738, chassis number KAA41/3=
5361 and a build date of 14 October  through 17 October 1958. John Drake att=
empted to draw some sort of correlation between the body and chassis numbers=
 of the MGAs when he was registrar, though I don't recall if he was successf=
ul.

Steve

> On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Paul,
>             Thanks for the =E2=80=9Clanguage=E2=80=9D lesson. Always nice t=
o have someone explain how others do things versus what is familiar to ourse=
lves. What can you tell me about the body numbers? Do all Z=E2=80=99s have o=
ne or only the Varitones? Mine is something like 7595. I have to dig out som=
e paperwork to find it as the problem painter failed to mask the number plat=
e and it is very hard to decipher a number in  its current state. I=E2=80=99=
m torn between leaving it as is or sanding the paint off to see the number. I=
t is located on the driver=E2=80=99s side inner fender near the  upper lip a=
bout 2 feet from the builder=E2=80=99s plate.
>             Regards,
>             John
> =20
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net] On Behalf Of Paul Barrow
> You are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect in th=
at the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number (the KAE=E2=80=
=A6 bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense Allen is com=
pletely correct.
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net] On Behalf Of John Park
> There is no chassis it=E2=80=99s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial numbe=
r for the car or the body number? I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=99s only V=
aritones that have body numbers or if they all have a body number. Maybe we s=
hould do engine numbers too? Just some more thoughts/questions.
> =20
> From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net] On Behalf Of Allen Bachelder
> Something just occurred to me - it's a question that can be answered in th=
ree ways as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in the roster?  We c=
an say yes, no, or leave it up to the members.  Granted that NAMGAR does the=
 registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it might be handy and/or fun t=
o have our own casual records.  Maybe, for example, we'll discover we have s=
ome sequentially-related cars. More seriously, we may discover some subtle m=
id-model changes that affect technical concerns.  I'll propose that each of u=
s can pursue this at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in being abl=
e to include this in the data. It would be neat to be able to search our car=
s by chassis number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike need do no=
thing more, a member can simply import the data to an Excel file, allowing o=
ne to  organize and search by chassis number. =20
> =20
> This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a modest response will=
> That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in=
>=20
> But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new memb=
ers since July So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're an old-tim=
er that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. Here's what c=
an go into it:
> Your SO's first & last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one has e=
ver asked for that.)
> Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior to=
p/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my car, a=
n Old English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon interior:
>=20
> Year: 1958  Make: MG  Model: ZBV  Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon  Status:=
 Always a driver
> For Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. Entries ra=
nge from "Tools, some parts, can come out & help, limited garage space." to "=
Cold beer on hand at all times."
> And it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and th=
e line for his Magnette. Other people include all their special-interest car=
s (we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some history.
>=20
> If you haven't already, send me your info now, while we're all still think=
ing of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next month.
>=20
> Let me know at [email-masked] if you have any questions. Please don=
't reply to the group and spam everyone.
> To: "zmagnette" <[email-masked]>, "John Taft" <[email-masked]=
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/bachld=
[email-masked]
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/steve@=
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agnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis number. As near a=
s I can tell from my readings, the body number had significance to the Press=
ed Steel body plant, probably to track batches of bodies before they were de=
spached to Abingdon for final assembly and the assignment of a chassis/car n=
umber. The body number of my Magnette is 29738, chassis number KAA41/35361 a=
nd a build date of 14 October &nbsp;through 17 October 1958. John Drake atte=
mpted to draw some sort of correlation between the body and chassis numbers o=
f the MGAs when he was registrar, though I don't recall if he was successful=
.<br><br>Steve</div><div><br>On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" &lt;<a=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Hi Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks for the =E2=80=9Clanguage=E2=80=9D lesson. A=
lways nice to have someone explain how others do things versus what is famil=
iar to ourselves. What can you tell me about the body numbers? Do all Z=E2=80=
=99s have one or only the Varitones? Mine is something like 7595. I have to d=
ig out some paperwork to find it as the problem painter failed to mask the n=
umber plate and it is very hard to decipher a number in&nbsp; its current st=
ate. I=E2=80=99m torn between leaving it as is or sanding the paint off to s=
ee the number. It is located on the driver=E2=80=99s side inner fender near t=
he&nbsp; upper lip about 2 feet from the builder=E2=80=99s plate.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Regards,<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div st=
yle=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</=
a> [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:zmagnette-bou=
[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Barrow<br><b>Sent:</b> Thu=
rsday, November 28, 2013 9:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'List for the Z Magnette Grou=
p - North America'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster<o:p></o:p><=
/span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;;color:navy">Hi John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot=
;sans-serif&quot;;color:navy"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;san=
s-serif&quot;;color:navy">You are correct in that they are monocoque however=
 you are incorrect in that the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the=
 VIN number (the KAE=E2=80=A6 bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number s=
o in a sense Allen is completely correct.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;;color:navy"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sa=
ns-serif&quot;;color:navy">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;;color:navy"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-se=
rif&quot;;color:navy">Paul Barrow</span><span style=3D"color:navy"><o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:navy">153 Clemons Road</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;;color:navy">Montesano, WA 98563 USA</span><span style=3D"color:navy=
"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:navy">+1 360 2=
49 5123 Landline</span><span style=3D"color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&q=
uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:navy">+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone</span><sp=
an style=3D"color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot=
;;color:navy">+1 360 249 3776 Fax</span><span style=3D"color:navy"><o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:navy"><a href=3D"mailto:P=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></span><o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><div><div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:=
center"><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center"></div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a href=3D"mailto:zmagnett=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> [<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]">mailto:[email-masked].=
net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Park<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 28=
, 2013 6:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North America'=
<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;co=
lor:#1F497D">There is no chassis it=E2=80=99s a monocoque. Do you mean the s=
erial number for the car or the body number? I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=
=99s only Varitones that have body numbers or if they all have a body number=
. Maybe we should do engine numbers too? Just some more thoughts/questions.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1=
.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:<=
/span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&q=
uot;sans-serif&quot;"> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">z=
[email-masked]</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:zmagnette-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net">mailto:[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </=
b>Allen Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:56 PM<br><b=
>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re=
: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Something just occurred to m=
e - it's a question that can be answered in three ways as I see it: should w=
e include chassis numbers in the roster? &nbsp;We can say yes, no, or leave i=
t up to the members. &nbsp;Granted that NAMGAR does the registration aspects=
 of ZMG, but on occasion it might be handy and/or fun to have our own casual=
 records. &nbsp;Maybe, for example, we'll discover we have some sequentially=
-related cars. More seriously, we may discover some subtle mid-model changes=
 that affect technical concerns. &nbsp;I'll propose that each of us can purs=
ue this at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in being able to inclu=
de this in the data. It would be neat to be able to search our cars by chass=
is number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike need do nothing more=
, a member can simply import the data to an Excel file, allowing one to &nbs=
p;organize and search by chassis number. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This may b=
e of little concern to most of us. If so, a modest response will tell the st=
ory and I'll let it go. &nbsp;It's no big deal...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheer=
s,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Allen<o:p></o:p></p><div>=
<div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i=
><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans=
-serif&quot;;color:black">**************************************************=
**************</span></i></b></span><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&=
quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><di=
v><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Allen &amp; Florrie Bachel=
der &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs<=
/span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C=
/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:90.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">North Stree=
t, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></=
div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span class=3D=
"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><a href=3D"http://www.mgex=
perience.net/member/bachldrs">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a=
></span></i></b></span><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-=
size:13.5pt"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div=
><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">**********=
******************************************************</span></span><o:p></o=
:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></d=
iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
On Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><blockquote styl=
e=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Howdy all,<br><br>That's a darn good idea, updatin=
g the Roster. The last version came out in July, so we're about due for a ne=
w one.<br><br>But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of t=
he new members since July So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're=
 an old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. He=
re's what can go into it:<br><br>Your first name, middle initial, and last n=
ame.<br>Your SO's first &amp; last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - n=
o one has ever asked for that.)<br>Address: Street, city, state/province, po=
stal code, country.<br>Up to two phone numbers<br>Email address<br>Special-i=
nterest cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)<br>Services provided<br>Comments<=
br><br>Cars are recorded like so: Year, Make, Model, Color, Status<br><br>Co=
lors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior top/ex=
terior bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my car, an O=
ld English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon interior:<br><br>Year:=
 1958 &nbsp;Make: MG &nbsp;Model: ZBV &nbsp;Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon &=
nbsp;Status: Always a driver<br><br>You don't have to worry about the format=
ting; I'll take care of that.<br><br>For Services, people tend to write abou=
t help they can provide. Entries range from "Tools, some parts, can come out=
 &amp; help, limited garage space." to "Cold beer on hand at all times."<br>=
<br>Comments can be anything else you'd care to add.<br><br>And it's all opt=
ional. One person just has his name, email address, and the line for his Mag=
nette. Other people include all their special-interest cars (we don't list m=
otorcycles or "regular" cars) and some history.<br><br>If you haven't alread=
y, send me your info now, while we're all still thinking of it, and I'll sen=
d out an updated roster next month.<br><br>Let me know at <a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> if you have any questions. P=
lease don't reply to the group and spam everyone.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Mike=
 Jacobsen<br><br>--------------------------------------------<br>On Wed, 11/=
27/13, Allen Bachelder &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">bachldrs@=
comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member<br>To: "zm=
agnette" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m.net</a>&gt;, "John Taft" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">jtaft89@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM<br><br>Eve=
rybody...&nbsp;<br>... Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he c=
an remind us when the next revision is coming out. ....<br><br>_____________=
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From: Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]>
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Monocoque does not mean there's no chassis, it simply means that the =
chassis and body-shell are integrated.  That said, I mispoke. 'Tis =
neither "chassis number" nor "serial number" to which I referred, but =
alas, the "car number". =20

Doesn't it feel good to have that issue resolved!

Cheers,
Allen

On Nov 28, 2013, at 9:44 PM, John Park wrote:

> There is no chassis it=92s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial number =
for the car or the body number? I=92m not sure if it=92s only Varitones =
that have body numbers or if they all have a body number. Maybe we =
should do engine numbers too? Just some more thoughts/questions.
> =20
> From: [email-masked] =
> Something just occurred to me - it's a question that can be answered =
in three ways as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in the =
roster?  We can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members.  Granted =
that NAMGAR does the registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it =
might be handy and/or fun to have our own casual records.  Maybe, for =
example, we'll discover we have some sequentially-related cars. More =
seriously, we may discover some subtle mid-model changes that affect =
technical concerns.  I'll propose that each of us can pursue this at =
his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in being able to include this =
in the data. It would be neat to be able to search our cars by chassis =
number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike need do nothing =
more, a member can simply import the data to an Excel file, allowing one =
to  organize and search by chassis number. =20
Status: Always a driver
<[email-masked]>

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<html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://467/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: =
after-white-space; ">Monocoque does not mean there's no chassis, it =
simply means that the chassis and body-shell are integrated. &nbsp;That =
said, I mispoke. 'Tis neither "chassis number"&nbsp;nor "serial number" =
to which I referred, but alas, the "car number". =
&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Doesn't it feel good to have that issue =
resolved!</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Allen<br><div><div>

<br><div><div>On Nov 28, 2013, at 9:44 PM, John Park wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: separate; =
font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"WordSection1" =
style=3D"page: WordSection1; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">There =
is no chassis it=92s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial number for the =
car or the body number? I=92m not sure if it=92s only Varitones that =
have body numbers or if they all have a body number. Maybe we should do =
engine numbers too? Just some more =
thoughts/questions.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
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12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[mailto:zmagnette-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net]<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On =
Behalf Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Allen =
Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, November 27, =
2013 8:56 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>List for the Z Magnette =
Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
Roster<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Something just occurred to me - =
it's a question that can be answered in three ways as I see it: should =
we include chassis numbers in the roster? &nbsp;We can say yes, no, or =
leave it up to the members. &nbsp;Granted that NAMGAR does the =
registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it might be handy and/or =
fun to have our own casual records. &nbsp;Maybe, for example, we'll =
discover we have some sequentially-related cars. More seriously, we may =
discover some subtle mid-model changes that affect technical concerns. =
&nbsp;I'll propose that each of us can pursue this at his/her option, =
unless Mike finds a glitch in being able to include this in the data. It =
would be neat to be able to search our cars by chassis number. If the =
data is available in the roster, Mike need do nothing more, a member can =
simply import the data to an Excel file, allowing one to &nbsp;organize =
and search by chassis number. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a =
modest response will tell the story and I'll let it go. &nbsp;It's no =
big deal...<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">Allen<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
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font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; =
">****************************************************************</span><=
/i></b></span><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: =
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"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward =
MGs</span></i></b><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
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style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; ">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT</span></i></b><span =
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black; "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
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font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><i><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; ">North Street, MI 48049, USA</span></i></b><span =
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black; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>=
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margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; "><a href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><sp=
an class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 13.5pt; =
"><o:p></o:p></span></span></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><=
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iv></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; =
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'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">On Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
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0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Howdy =
all,<br><br>That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last =
version came out in July, so we're about due for a new one.<br><br>But =
I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new =
members since July. So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're =
an old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. =
Here's what can go into it:<br><br>Your first name, middle initial, and =
last name.<br>Your SO's first &amp; last name. (SO's don't get middle =
initials - no one has ever asked for that.)<br>Address: Street, city, =
state/province, postal code, country.<br>Up to two phone =
numbers<br>Email address<br>Special-interest cars (no 2010 Toyota =
Camrys, e.g.)<br>Services provided<br>Comments<br><br>Cars are recorded =
like so: Year, Make, Model, Color, Status<br><br>Colors are shown =
exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior top/exterior =
bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my car, an Old =
English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon =
interior:<br><br>Year: 1958 &nbsp;Make: MG &nbsp;Model: ZBV &nbsp;Color: =
OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon &nbsp;Status: Always a driver<br><br>You don't =
have to worry about the formatting; I'll take care of that.<br><br>For =
Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. Entries =
range from "Tools, some parts, can come out &amp; help, limited garage =
space." to "Cold beer on hand at all times."<br><br>Comments can be =
anything else you'd care to add.<br><br>And it's all optional. One =
person just has his name, email address, and the line for his Magnette. =
Other people include all their special-interest cars (we don't list =
motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some history.<br><br>If you haven't =
already, send me your info now, while we're all still thinking of it, =
and I'll send out an updated roster next month.<br><br>Let me know =
at<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>if you have any questions. =
Please don't reply to the group and spam =
everyone.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Mike =
Jacobsen<br><br>--------------------------------------------<br>On Wed, =
11/27/13, Allen Bachelder &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Subject: [Zmagnette] New =
Member<br>To: "zmagnette" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, "John Taft" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: =
underline; ">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Date: Wednesday, November 27, =
2013, 12:03 PM<br><br>Everybody...&nbsp;<br>... Mike updates the roster =
twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when the next revision is =
coming out. =
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Thanks Steve. Is there such a things as a Varitone number? I seem to =
remember back in 1989 when I bought my Magnette I spoke with a Steve or =
Bob ( I don=E2=80=99t remember which at this point) Young in San =
Francisco who gave me some good info I have now misplaced. I had a =
thought that there is one. John

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From: [email-masked] =
[mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Google Apps Email
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:38 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Cc: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster

=20

John,

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Every Magnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis =
number. As near as I can tell from my readings, the body number had =
significance to the Pressed Steel body plant, probably to track batches =
of bodies before they were despached to Abingdon for final assembly and =
the assignment of a chassis/car number. The body number of my Magnette =
is 29738, chassis number KAA41/35361 and a build date of 14 October  =
through 17 October 1958. John Drake attempted to draw some sort of =
correlation between the body and chassis numbers of the MGAs when he was =
registrar, though I don't recall if he was successful.

Steve

On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" <[email-masked] =

Hi Paul,

            Thanks for the =E2=80=9Clanguage=E2=80=9D lesson. Always =
nice to have someone explain how others do things versus what is =
familiar to ourselves. What can you tell me about the body numbers? Do =
all Z=E2=80=99s have one or only the Varitones? Mine is something like =
7595. I have to dig out some paperwork to find it as the problem painter =
failed to mask the number plate and it is very hard to decipher a number =
in  its current state. I=E2=80=99m torn between leaving it as is or =
sanding the paint off to see the number. It is located on the =
driver=E2=80=99s side inner fender near the  upper lip about 2 feet from =
the builder=E2=80=99s plate.

            Regards,

            John

=20

=20

Hi John

=20

You are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect in =
that the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number (the =
KAE=E2=80=A6 bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense =
Allen is completely correct.

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Paul

=20

Paul Barrow

153 Clemons Road

Montesano, WA 98563 USA

+1 360 249 5123 Landline

+1 360 249 3776 Fax

  _____ =20

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There is no chassis it=E2=80=99s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial =
number for the car or the body number? I=E2=80=99m not sure if =
it=E2=80=99s only Varitones that have body numbers or if they all have a =
body number. Maybe we should do engine numbers too? Just some more =
thoughts/questions.

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=20

=20

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Cheers,

Allen

=20

=20

Howdy all,

That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out =
in July, so we're about due for a new one.

But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new =
members since July So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're an =
old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. =
Here's what can go into it:

Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior =
top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my =
car, an Old English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon interior:

For Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. Entries =
range from "Tools, some parts, can come out & help, limited garage =
space." to "Cold beer on hand at all times."

And it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and =
the line for his Magnette. Other people include all their =
special-interest cars (we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and =
some history.

you have any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam =
everyone.

Thanks!

Mike Jacobsen

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 11/27/13, Allen Bachelder <[email-masked] =

Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member
To: "zmagnette" <[email-masked] =
Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM

Everybody...=20
... Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us =
when the next revision is coming out. ....

=20

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>Thanks Steve. Is there such a things as a Varitone number? I seem to =
remember back in 1989 when I bought my Magnette I spoke with a Steve or =
Bob ( I don=E2=80=99t remember which at this point) Young in San =
Francisco who gave me some good info I have now misplaced. I had a =
thought that there is one. John<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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[email-masked] =
[mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Google =
Apps Email<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:38 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North =
America<br><b>Cc:</b> List for the Z Magnette Group - North =
America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
Roster<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>John,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Every Magnette that I have examined has both a body =
and a chassis number. As near as I can tell from my readings, the body =
number had significance to the Pressed Steel body plant, probably to =
track batches of bodies before they were despached to Abingdon for final =
assembly and the assignment of a chassis/car number. The body number of =
my Magnette is 29738, chassis number KAA41/35361 and a build date of 14 =
October &nbsp;through 17 October 1958. John Drake attempted to draw some =
sort of correlation between the body and chassis numbers of the MGAs =
when he was registrar, though I don't recall if he was =
successful.<br><br>Steve<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, =
&quot;John Park&quot; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>Hi Paul,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Thanks for the =E2=80=9Clanguage=E2=80=9D lesson. Always nice to have =
someone explain how others do things versus what is familiar to =
ourselves. What can you tell me about the body numbers? Do all =
Z=E2=80=99s have one or only the Varitones? Mine is something like 7595. =
I have to dig out some paperwork to find it as the problem painter =
failed to mask the number plate and it is very hard to decipher a number =
in&nbsp; its current state. I=E2=80=99m torn between leaving it as is or =
sanding the paint off to see the number. It is located on the =
driver=E2=80=99s side inner fender near the&nbsp; upper lip about 2 feet =
from the builder=E2=80=99s plate.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
John</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">zmagnette-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:zmagnette-bounces=
@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Barrow<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'List for the Z =
Magnette Group - North America'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
Roster</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Hi=
 John</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&n=
bsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Yo=
u are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect in =
that the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number (the =
KAE=E2=80=A6 bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense =
Allen is completely correct.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&n=
bsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Pa=
ul</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&n=
bsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Pa=
ul Barrow</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>15=
3 Clemons Road</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Mo=
ntesano, WA 98563 USA</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>+1=
 360 249 5123 Landline</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>+1=
 360 500 9389 Cell phone</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>+1=
 360 249 3776 Fax</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><a=
 =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"100%" =
align=3Dcenter></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">zmagnette-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:zmagnette-bounces=
@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Park<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Thursday, November 28, 2013 6:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'List for the Z =
Magnette Group - North America'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
Roster</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>There is no chassis it=E2=80=99s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial =
number for the car or the body number? I=E2=80=99m not sure if =
it=E2=80=99s only Varitones that have body numbers or if they all have a =
body number. Maybe we should do engine numbers too? Just some more =
thoughts/questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">zmagnette-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mailto:zmagnette-bounces=
@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Allen Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:56 PM<br><b>To:</b> List for the Z =
Magnette Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
Roster</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Something =
just occurred to me - it's a question that can be answered in three ways =
as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in the roster? &nbsp;We =
can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members. &nbsp;Granted that =
NAMGAR does the registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it might be =
handy and/or fun to have our own casual records. &nbsp;Maybe, for =
example, we'll discover we have some sequentially-related cars. More =
seriously, we may discover some subtle mid-model changes that affect =
technical concerns. &nbsp;I'll propose that each of us can pursue this =
at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in being able to include =
this in the data. It would be neat to be able to search our cars by =
chassis number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike need do =
nothing more, a member can simply import the data to an Excel file, =
allowing one to &nbsp;organize and search by chassis number. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a =
modest response will tell the story and I'll let it go. &nbsp;It's no =
big deal...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Allen<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>****************************************************************</span>=
</i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><di=
v><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
=3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward =
MGs</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 =
B/GT</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'>North Street, MI 48049, =
USA</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><b><i><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black=
'><a =
href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs">http://www.mgexperie=
nce.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div=
><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><d=
iv><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3Dapple-style-span><span =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></blockquote><bl=
ockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>__________________________________________=
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From: Steve Hanegan <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:55:51 -0800

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I think that this actually may explain the discrepancy between the large =
gap in body numbers and the rather small gap in car/chassis numbers that =
exist between Lann's car and mine. It is my understanding that cars that =
were to become Varitones were shipped to Abingdon from Cowley (~6 miles) =
as standard ZB bodies. Abingdon would then look at the order sheets for =
Varitones and send the requisite number of bodies back to Cowley as =
painted shells. At Cowley, the rear window openings were modified (in =
what some refer to as a real "knife and fork" process) re-painted and =
sent back to Abingdon for final assembly. It stands to reason, if this =
is truly the case, that a Varitone body could have a build =
number/sequence that is quite a bit older than the non-Varitones that =
were right in front of and right behind a standard ZB on the final =
assembly line.

At any rate, this is a very interesting bit of Abingdon "old MG" lore...

Steve H.

remember back in 1989 when I bought my Magnette I spoke with a Steve or =
Bob ( I don=92t remember which at this point) Young in San Francisco who =
gave me some good info I have now misplaced. I had a thought that there =
is one. John
>             Thanks for the =93language=94 lesson. Always nice to have =
someone explain how others do things versus what is familiar to =
ourselves. What can you tell me about the body numbers? Do all Z=92s =
have one or only the Varitones? Mine is something like 7595. I have to =
dig out some paperwork to find it as the problem painter failed to mask =
the number plate and it is very hard to decipher a number in  its =
current state. I=92m torn between leaving it as is or sanding the paint =
off to see the number. It is located on the driver=92s side inner fender =
near the  upper lip about 2 feet from the builder=92s plate.
> You are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect =
in that the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number =
(the KAE=85 bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense =
Allen is completely correct.
Status: Always a driver
<[email-masked]>
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/[email-masked]
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/zmagnette/[email-masked]

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dwindows-1252"><base href=3D"x-msg://652/"></head><body =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I think that this actually may =
explain the discrepancy between the large gap in body numbers and the =
rather small gap in car/chassis numbers that exist between Lann's car =
and mine. It is my understanding that cars that were to become Varitones =
were shipped to Abingdon from Cowley (~6 miles) as standard ZB bodies. =
Abingdon would then look at the order sheets for Varitones and send the =
requisite number of bodies back to Cowley as painted shells. At Cowley, =
the rear window openings were modified (in what some refer to as a real =
"knife and fork" process) re-painted and sent back to Abingdon for final =
assembly. It stands to reason, if this is truly the case, that a =
Varitone body could have a build number/sequence that is quite a bit =
older than the non-Varitones that were right in front of and right =
behind a standard ZB on the final assembly line.<div><br></div><div>At =
any rate, this is a very interesting bit of Abingdon "old MG" =
lore...</div><div><br></div><div>Steve H.</div><div><br><div><div>On Nov =
29, 2013, at 3:53 PM, John Park &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"font-family: =
'Century Gothic'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: =
normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; "><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Thanks Steve. Is there such a =
things as a Varitone number? I seem to remember back in 1989 when I =
bought my Magnette I spoke with a Steve or Bob ( I don=92t remember =
which at this point) Young in San Francisco who gave me some good info I =
have now misplaced. I had a thought that there is one. =
John<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125); ">&nbsp;</span></div><div><div style=3D"border-style: solid =
none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); =
padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[mailto:zmagnette-<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Google Apps =
Email<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, November 28, 2013 =
10:38 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>List for the Z Magnette =
Group - North America<br><b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>List for the Z Magnette =
Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
Roster<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">John,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">Every Magnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis =
number. As near as I can tell from my readings, the body number had =
significance to the Pressed Steel body plant, probably to track batches =
of bodies before they were despached to Abingdon for final assembly and =
the assignment of a chassis/car number. The body number of my Magnette =
is 29738, chassis number KAA41/35361 and a build date of 14 October =
&nbsp;through 17 October 1958. John Drake attempted to draw some sort of =
correlation between the body and chassis numbers of the MGAs when he was =
registrar, though I don't recall if he was =
successful.<br><br>Steve<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
 style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><br>On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline; ">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Hi =
Paul,</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125); =
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Thanks for the =93language=94 lesson. Always nice to have someone =
explain how others do things versus what is familiar to ourselves. What =
can you tell me about the body numbers? Do all Z=92s have one or only =
the Varitones? Mine is something like 7595. I have to dig out some =
paperwork to find it as the problem painter failed to mask the number =
plate and it is very hard to decipher a number in&nbsp; its current =
state. I=92m torn between leaving it as is or sanding the paint off to =
see the number. It is located on the driver=92s side inner fender near =
the&nbsp; upper lip about 2 feet from the builder=92s =
plate.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125); =
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125); =
">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
John</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125); ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"border-style:=
 solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, =
225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; =
">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; "><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Paul =
Barrow<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, November 28, 2013 =
9:56 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'List for the Z Magnette =
Group - North America'<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
Roster</span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: navy; =
">Hi John</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: navy; =
">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: navy; =
">You are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect =
in that the British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number =
(the KAE=85 bit) is referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense =
Allen is completely correct.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
color: navy; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: =
navy; ">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: =
navy; ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: =
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serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
color: navy; ">Montesano, WA 98563 USA</span><o:p></o:p></div><div =
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New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; color: navy; ">+1 360 249 5123 =
Landline</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
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">+1 360 500 9389 Cell phone</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; =
color: navy; ">+1 360 249 3776 Fax</span><o:p></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; color: navy; "><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a></span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: =
center; "><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center"></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>John =
Park<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Thursday, November 28, 2013 =
6:45 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'List for the Z Magnette =
Group - North America'<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
Roster</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125); ">There is no chassis it=92s a monocoque. Do you mean the =
serial number for the car or the body number? I=92m not sure if it=92s =
only Varitones that have body numbers or if they all have a body number. =
Maybe we should do engine numbers too? Just some more =
thoughts/questions.</span><o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125); ">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; =
">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Allen =
Bachelder<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Wednesday, November 27, =
2013 8:56 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>List for the Z Magnette =
Group - North America<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG =
Roster</span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Something just =
occurred to me - it's a question that can be answered in three ways as I =
see it: should we include chassis numbers in the roster? &nbsp;We can =
say yes, no, or leave it up to the members. &nbsp;Granted that NAMGAR =
does the registration aspects of ZMG, but on occasion it might be handy =
and/or fun to have our own casual records. &nbsp;Maybe, for example, =
we'll discover we have some sequentially-related cars. More seriously, =
we may discover some subtle mid-model changes that affect technical =
concerns. &nbsp;I'll propose that each of us can pursue this at his/her =
option, unless Mike finds a glitch in being able to include this in the =
data. It would be neat to be able to search our cars by chassis number. =
If the data is available in the roster, Mike need do nothing more, a =
member can simply import the data to an Excel file, allowing one to =
&nbsp;organize and search by chassis number. =
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">This =
may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a modest response will =
tell the story and I'll let it go. &nbsp;It's no big =
deal...<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">Allen<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">****************************************************************</span><=
/i></b></span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; ">Allen &amp; Florrie Bachelder &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; =
=3Diii=3D&lt;<br>Spring Creek Home for Wayward =
MGs</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; ">'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 =
B/GT</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; ">North Street, MI 48049, =
USA</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><span class=3D"apple-style-span"><b><i><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; =
font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; "><a =
href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline; =
">http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs</a></span></i></b></span><o:=
p></o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span =
class=3D"apple-style-span"><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; =
">****************************************************************</span><=
/span><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On =
Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt; "><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Howdy =
all,<br><br>That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last =
version came out in July, so we're about due for a new one.<br><br>But =
I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new =
members since July So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're an =
old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. =
Here's what can go into it:<br><br>Your first name, middle initial, and =
last name.<br>Your SO's first &amp; last name. (SO's don't get middle =
initials - no one has ever asked for that.)<br>Address: Street, city, =
state/province, postal code, country.<br>Up to two phone =
numbers<br>Email address<br>Special-interest cars (no 2010 Toyota =
Camrys, e.g.)<br>Services provided<br>Comments<br><br>Cars are recorded =
like so: Year, Make, Model, Color, Status<br><br>Colors are shown =
exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior top/exterior =
bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my car, an Old =
English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon =
interior:<br><br>Year: 1958 &nbsp;Make: MG &nbsp;Model: ZBV &nbsp;Color: =
OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon &nbsp;Status: Always a driver<br><br>You don't =
have to worry about the formatting; I'll take care of that.<br><br>For =
Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. Entries =
range from "Tools, some parts, can come out &amp; help, limited garage =
space." to "Cold beer on hand at all times."<br><br>Comments can be =
anything else you'd care to add.<br><br>And it's all optional. One =
person just has his name, email address, and the line for his Magnette. =
Other people include all their special-interest cars (we don't list =
motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some history.<br><br>If you haven't =
already, send me your info now, while we're all still thinking of it, =
and I'll send out an updated roster next month.<br><br>Let me know =
at<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>if you have any questions. =
Please don't reply to the group and spam =
everyone.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>Mike =
Jacobsen<br><br>--------------------------------------------<br>On Wed, =
11/27/13, Allen Bachelder &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Subject: [Zmagnette] New =
Member<br>To: "zmagnette" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline; =
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, "John Taft" &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline; ">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Date: =
Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM<br><br>Everybody...&nbsp;<br>... =
Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when =
the next revision is coming out. =
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