Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Cold air /ram air box construction <[email-masked]> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>

From: Arch Boston <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:39:32 -0500

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Think you started wrong years....  In '58 I was in college and not was still=
 playing with cars but cars were on back burner.  There was an article, didn=
't dream it.  Might have been in sports cars illustrated.  But, definitely p=
ublished.  1956 1957

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On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:06 PM, "Wayne & Isabel Hardy" <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:

> Well I went through 1958 thru 1960 issues of Road & Track today with no si=
gn of an article on building a cold air box for your car. Got sick looking a=
t car prices, especially used sports racer types, and had a lot of fun looki=
ng at old racing photos from places like Eagle Mtn. Lake in Ft.Worth, and Ga=
lveston Tex. and Mansfield La. tracks all of which I worked on and even drov=
e a lap or two on. Worked as corner flagger, pit steward, and traffic contro=
l... All way back before the earth was cool apparently, about 55 or so years=
 ago.
> Anyhow NO info on building your air box. Wait to see what Kelvin=E2=80=99s=
 elves at Moss have to offer. They sure did a bang up job on the supercharge=
r kit.
> Wombat
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<html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>Think you started wrong ye=
ars.... &nbsp;In '58 I was in college and not was still playing with cars bu=
t cars were on back burner. &nbsp;There was an article, didn't dream it. &nb=
sp;Might have been in sports cars illustrated. &nbsp;But, definitely publish=
ed. &nbsp;1956 1957<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Nov 17, 2013, a=
t 9:06 PM, "Wayne &amp; Isabel Hardy" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gwhardy@suddenli=
nk.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><div>

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<div><font size=3D"4">Well I went through 1958 thru 1960 issues of Road &amp=
; Track=20
today with no sign of an article on building a cold air box for your car. Go=
t=20
sick looking at car prices, especially used sports racer types, and had a lo=
t of=20
fun looking at old racing photos from places like Eagle Mtn. Lake in Ft.Wort=
h,=20
and Galveston Tex. and Mansfield La. tracks all of which I worked on and eve=
n=20
drove a lap or two on. Worked as corner flagger, pit steward, and traffic=20=

control... All way back before the earth was cool apparently, about 55 or so=
=20
years ago.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">Anyhow NO info on building your air box. Wait to see w=
hat=20
Kelvin=E2=80=99s elves at Moss have to offer. They sure did a bang up job on=
 the=20
supercharger kit.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4">Wombat</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"4"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000">Wayne=
 &amp;=20
Isabel=20
Hardy<br>936-829-5427<br><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">gwhardy@s=
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From: "Wayne & Isabel Hardy" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 05:38:02 -0600

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Arch;=20
I=E2=80=99ll be on the road out of town for a week or 10 days but will =
have another go when I get back. It=E2=80=99s so painful looking at all =
the cars I could now own for such little outlay of $$$ if I had bought =
them in the =E2=80=9850s. Of course I didn=E2=80=99t have the money for =
a $3000 old car to just save in those days.

Wombat

From: Arch Boston=20
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:39 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Cold air /ram air box construction

Think you started wrong years....  In '58 I was in college and not was =
still playing with cars but cars were on back burner.  There was an =
article, didn't dream it.  Might have been in sports cars illustrated.  =
But, definitely published.  1956 1957

Sent from my iPad

On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:06 PM, "Wayne & Isabel Hardy" =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

  Well I went through 1958 thru 1960 issues of Road & Track today with =
no sign of an article on building a cold air box for your car. Got sick =
looking at car prices, especially used sports racer types, and had a lot =
of fun looking at old racing photos from places like Eagle Mtn. Lake in =
Ft.Worth, and Galveston Tex. and Mansfield La. tracks all of which I =
worked on and even drove a lap or two on. Worked as corner flagger, pit =
steward, and traffic control... All way back before the earth was cool =
apparently, about 55 or so years ago.
  Anyhow NO info on building your air box. Wait to see what =
Kelvin=E2=80=99s elves at Moss have to offer. They sure did a bang up =
job on the supercharger kit.
  Wombat

  Wayne & Isabel Hardy
  936-829-5427
  [email-masked]

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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I=E2=80=99ll be on the road out of town for a week =
or 10 days but will=20
have another go when I get back. It=E2=80=99s so painful looking at all =
the cars I could=20
now own for such little outlay of $$$ if I had bought them in the =
=E2=80=9850s. Of=20
course I didn=E2=80=99t have the money for a $3000 old car to just save =
in those=20
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:39 PM</DIV>
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<DIV>Think you started wrong years....&nbsp; In '58 I was in college and =
not was=20
still playing with cars but cars were on back burner.&nbsp; There was an =

article, didn't dream it.&nbsp; Might have been in sports cars=20
illustrated.&nbsp; But, definitely published.&nbsp; 1956 =
1957<BR><BR>Sent from=20
my iPad</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Nov 17, 2013, at 9:06 PM, "Wayne &amp; Isabel Hardy" &lt;<A=20
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Well I went through 1958 thru 1960 issues of Road =
&amp;=20
  Track today with no sign of an article on building a cold air box for =
your=20
  car. Got sick looking at car prices, especially used sports racer =
types, and=20
  had a lot of fun looking at old racing photos from places like Eagle =
Mtn. Lake=20
  in Ft.Worth, and Galveston Tex. and Mansfield La. tracks all of which =
I worked=20
  on and even drove a lap or two on. Worked as corner flagger, pit =
steward, and=20
  traffic control... All way back before the earth was cool apparently, =
about 55=20
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  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Anyhow NO info on building your air box. Wait to =
see what=20
  Kelvin=E2=80=99s elves at Moss have to offer. They sure did a bang up =
job on the=20
  supercharger kit.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Wombat</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: =
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From: "Wayne & Isabel Hardy" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 06:04:24 -0600

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I also was in the college mode in 1958 and bought my first new car a =
1958 MGA in April of that year so thought I must have seen the article =
after that rather than 2 years before it, because I did build a nice =
little box for the MGA. There was a left over part of it still around =
for a while, so I=E2=80=99ll look hard for what=E2=80=99s left so can =
give you the dimensions.=20
I can tell you this..It was a bought Radio Shack aluminum chassis box, =
with an aluminum backing plate made for closing up the air box. The =
backing plate screwed on to the box from the open or fender side away =
from the motor to close things up for pressure retention. The chassis =
itself was cut with the holes to allow it=E2=80=99s installation on to =
the carburettor air intake side instead of air cleaners, then the cover =
backing plate was installed with sheet metal screws and a small bit of =
sealant.
The carb fuel overflow pipes were routed into the airbox and sealed with =
tubing bulkhead fittings to equalize the air pressure on top of the =
float chamber to avoid the float being pushed up by the positive air =
pressure into the  floatchamber bottom and shutting back fuel flow. =
Pretty sure I got this idea from someone else, so guessing I saw it in a =
mag too. My box looked a lot like the one found on the old LeMans =
A.Healey 100-4 motor from the factory.
I think the biggest gain came from routing cooler air to the carbs =
rather then some slight positive air pressure increase at 70 mph or =
above.

Wombat

From: Arch Boston=20

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  Wayne & Isabel Hardy
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first new=20
car a 1958 MGA in April of that year so thought I must have seen the =
article=20
after that rather than 2 years before it, because I did build a nice =
little box=20
for the MGA. There was a left over part of it still around for a while, =
so I=E2=80=99ll=20
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</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I can tell you this..It was a bought Radio Shack =
aluminum=20
chassis box, with an aluminum backing plate made for closing up the air =
box. The=20
backing plate screwed on to the box from the open or fender side away =
from the=20
motor to close things up for pressure retention. The chassis itself was =
cut with=20
the holes to allow it=E2=80=99s installation on to the carburettor air =
intake side=20
instead of air cleaners, then the cover backing plate was installed with =
sheet=20
metal screws and a small bit of sealant.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>The carb fuel overflow pipes were routed into the =
airbox and=20
sealed with tubing bulkhead fittings to equalize the air pressure on top =
of the=20
float chamber to avoid the float being pushed up by the positive air =
pressure=20
into the&nbsp; floatchamber bottom and shutting back fuel flow. Pretty =
sure I=20
got this idea from someone else, so guessing I saw it in a mag too. My =
box=20
looked a lot like the one found on the old LeMans A.Healey 100-4 motor =
from the=20
factory.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I think the biggest gain came from routing cooler =
air to the=20
carbs rather then some slight positive air pressure increase at 70 mph =
or=20
above.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Wombat</FONT></DIV>
<DIV=20
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Arch Boston</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:39 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">List for the Z Magnette Group - =
North=20
America</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] Cold air /ram air box=20
construction</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; =
COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none; DISPLAY: =
inline">
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not was=20
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