Subject: [Zmagnette] ZMG Roster <[email-masked]> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>

From: Mike <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 14:35:55 -0800 (PST)

Howdy all,

That's a darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in July, so we're about due for a new one.

But I've been lax, and haven't gathered any info from most of the new members since July. So, if you joined in the past half year, or you're an old-timer that never subscribed to the Roster, send me your info now. Here's what can go into it:

Your first name, middle initial, and last name.
Your SO's first & last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one has ever asked for that.)
Address: Street, city, state/province, postal code, country.
Up to two phone numbers
Email address
Special-interest cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)
Services provided
Comments

Cars are recorded like so: Year, Make, Model, Color, Status

Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone cars, it's exterior top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example, here's the entry for my car, an Old English White over Birch Grey Varitone with maroon interior:

Year: 1958  Make: MG  Model: ZBV  Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon  Status: Always a driver

You don't have to worry about the formatting; I'll take care of that.

For Services, people tend to write about help they can provide. Entries range from "Tools, some parts, can come out & help, limited garage space." to "Cold beer on hand at all times."

Comments can be anything else you'd care to add.

And it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and the line for his Magnette. Other people include all their special-interest cars (we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some history.

If you haven't already, send me your info now, while we're all still thinking of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next month.

Let me know at [email-masked] if you have any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam everyone.

Thanks!

Mike Jacobsen

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On Wed, 11/27/13, Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]> wrote:

 Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member
 To: "zmagnette" <[email-masked]>, "John Taft" <[email-masked]>
 Date: Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM
 
 Everybody... 
... Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when the next revision is coming out. ...

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Steve:
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I don't think there is any correlation between body numbers and serial =20
numbers.  My Magnette is KALA 13 35486, only 125 cars later than  yours.  T=
he=20
body number on mine is ZB034000, that's a 4262 delta.
I've noticed the same thing on my other MGs.  I don't think Pressed  Steel=
=20
or MG practiced FIFO.
=20
Lann
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In a message dated 11/28/2013 9:39:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, =20
[email-masked] writes:

John,

Every Magnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis number. =
=20
As near as I can tell from my readings, the body number had significance to=
 =20
the Pressed Steel body plant, probably to track batches of bodies before=20
they  were despached to Abingdon for final assembly and the assignment of a=
 =20
chassis/car number. The body number of my Magnette is 29738, chassis number=
 =20
KAA41/35361 and a build date of 14 October  through 17 October 1958. John =
=20
Drake attempted to draw some sort of correlation between the body and chass=
is=20
 numbers of the MGAs when he was registrar, though I don't recall if he was=
=20
 successful.

Steve

On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" <[email-masked]=20
(mailto:[email-masked]) > wrote:

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Hi  Paul,=20
Thanks for the =E2=80=9Clanguage=E2=80=9D lesson. Always nice to have someo=
ne explain how =20
others do things versus what is familiar to ourselves. What can you tell me=
=20
 about the body numbers? Do all Z=E2=80=99s have one or only the Varitones?=
 Mine is=20
 something like 7595. I have to dig out some paperwork to find it as the =
=20
problem painter failed to mask the number plate and it is very hard to =20
decipher a number in  its current state. I=E2=80=99m torn between leaving i=
t as  is or=20
sanding the paint off to see the number. It is located on the driver=E2=80=
=99s  side=20
inner fender near the  upper lip about 2 feet from the builder=E2=80=99s  p=
late.=20
Regards,=20
John=20
=20
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From: [email-masked]=20
(mailto:[email-masked])   [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox=
.team.net]  On Behalf Of Paul Barrow
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013  9:56 PM
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North  America'
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG  Roster

Hi  John=20
You  are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect in=20
that the  British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number (the KAE=
=E2=80=A6=20
bit) is  referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense Allen is=20
completely  correct.=20
Paul=20
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Paul  Barrow=20
153  Clemons Road=20
Montesano,  WA 98563 USA=20
+1  360 249 5123 Landline=20
+1  360 500 9389 Cell phone=20
+1  360 249 3776 Fax=20
[email-masked] (mailto:[email-masked])=20
=20
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____________________________________
=20
From: [email-masked]=20
(mailto:[email-masked])   [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox=
.team.net]  On Behalf Of John Park
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013  6:45 PM
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North  America'
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG  Roster
There  is no chassis it=E2=80=99s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial numbe=
r for=20
the car or  the body number? I=E2=80=99m not sure if it=E2=80=99s only Vari=
tones that have=20
body numbers  or if they all have a body number. Maybe we should do engine=
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numbers too?  Just some more thoughts/questions.=20
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From: [email-masked]=20
(mailto:[email-masked])   [mailto:zmagnette-bounces@autox=
.team.net]  On Behalf Of Allen=20
Bachelder
Sent: Wednesday, November 27,  2013 8:56 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North  America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG  Roster

Something just occurred to me - it's a question that can  be answered in=20
three ways as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in  the roster?  =
We=20
can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members.  Granted that NAMGAR does=
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the registration aspects of ZMG, but on  occasion it might be handy and/or =
fun=20
to have our own casual records.  Maybe, for example, we'll discover we have=
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some sequentially-related  cars. More seriously, we may discover some=20
subtle mid-model changes that  affect technical concerns.  I'll propose tha=
t each=20
of us can pursue  this at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in=20
being able to include  this in the data. It would be neat to be able to sea=
rch=20
our cars by chassis  number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike=
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need do nothing more, a  member can simply import the data to an Excel file=
,=20
allowing one to  organize and search by chassis number.  =20
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This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a  modest response will=
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tell the story and I'll let it go.  It's no big  deal...=20
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Cheers,
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Spring Creek Home  for Wayward MGs
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North  Street, MI 48049, USA

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On Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike  wrote:

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Howdy all,

That's a  darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in=
=20
July, so  we're about due for a new one.

But I've been lax, and haven't  gathered any info from most of the new=20
members since July So, if you  joined in the past half year, or you're an=
=20
old-timer that never subscribed  to the Roster, send me your info now. Here=
's what=20
can go into  it:

Your first name, middle initial, and last name.
Your SO's  first & last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one has=
=20
ever  asked for that.)
Address: Street, city, state/province, postal code,  country.
Up to two phone numbers
Email address
Special-interest  cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)
Services  provided
Comments

Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone  cars, it's exterior=20
top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example,  here's the entry for my c=
ar,=20
an Old English White over Birch Grey Varitone  with maroon interior:

Year: 1958  Make: MG  Model: ZBV  Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon  Status:=
=20
Always a  driver

For Services, people tend to write about help they can  provide. Entries=20
range from "Tools, some parts, can come out & help,  limited garage space."=
 to=20
"Cold beer on hand at all  times."

And  it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and=20
the  line for his Magnette. Other people include all their special-interest=
 =20
cars (we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some  history.

If you haven't already, send me your info now, while we're  all still=20
thinking of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next  month.

Let me know at [email-masked] (mailto:[email-masked])  if=
=20
you have  any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam  everyone=
.

Thanks!

Mike  Jacobsen

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On Wed,  11/27/13, Allen Bachelder <[email-masked]=20
(mailto:[email-masked]) >  wrote:

Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member
To: "zmagnette" <[email-masked]=20
(mailto:[email-masked]) >,  "John Taft" <[email-masked] (mai=
lto:[email-masked]) >
Date:  Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM

Everybody...=20
...  Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when=
=20
the  next revision is coming out.  ....

Archive:  http://www.team.net/archive
Forums:  http://www.team.net/forums
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<DIV>Steve:</DIV>
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<DIV>I don't think there is any correlation between body numbers and serial=
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<DIV>I've noticed the same thing on my other MGs.&nbsp; I don't think Press=
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Lann</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 11/28/2013 9:39:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20
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  <DIV>Every Magnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis nu=
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  As near as I can tell from my readings, the body number had significance =
to=20
  the Pressed Steel body plant, probably to track batches of bodies before =
they=20
  were despached to Abingdon for final assembly and the assignment of a=20
  chassis/car number. The body number of my Magnette is 29738, chassis numb=
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  KAA41/35361 and a build date of 14 October &nbsp;through 17 October 1958.=
 John=20
  Drake attempted to draw some sort of correlation between the body and cha=
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  numbers of the MGAs when he was registrar, though I don't recall if he wa=
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  <DIV><BR>On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" &lt;<A=20
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    <B>On Behalf Of </B>Allen Bachelder<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November=
 27,=20
    2013 8:56 PM<BR><B>To:</B> List for the Z Magnette Group - North=20
    America<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG=20
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal>Something just occurred to me - it's a question th=
at can=20
    be answered in three ways as I see it: should we include chassis number=
s in=20
    the roster? &nbsp;We can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members.=20
    &nbsp;Granted that NAMGAR does the registration aspects of ZMG, but on=
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    occasion it might be handy and/or fun to have our own casual records.=
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    number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike need do nothing mo=
re, a=20
    member can simply import the data to an Excel file, allowing one to=20
    &nbsp;organize and search by chassis number. &nbsp;<O:P></O:P></P>
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    <P class=3DMsoNormal>This may be of little concern to most of us. If so=
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    href=3D"http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs">http://www.mgexper=
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      <P style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=3DMsoNormal>Howdy all,<BR><BR>=
That's a=20
      darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in Jul=
y, so=20
      we're about due for a new one.<BR><BR>But I've been lax, and haven't=
=20
      gathered any info from most of the new members since July So, if you=
=20
      joined in the past half year, or you're an old-timer that never subsc=
ribed=20
      to the Roster, send me your info now. Here's what can go into=20
      it:<BR><BR>Your first name, middle initial, and last name.<BR>Your SO=
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      first &amp; last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one has e=
ver=20
      asked for that.)<BR>Address: Street, city, state/province, postal cod=
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del,=20
      Color, Status<BR><BR>Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-t=
one=20
      cars, it's exterior top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example,=
=20
      here's the entry for my car, an Old English White over Birch Grey Var=
itone=20
      with maroon interior:<BR><BR>Year: 1958 &nbsp;Make: MG &nbsp;Model: Z=
BV=20
      &nbsp;Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon &nbsp;Status: Always a=20
      driver<BR><BR>You don't have to worry about the formatting; I'll take=
 care=20
      of that.<BR><BR>For Services, people tend to write about help they ca=
n=20
      provide. Entries range from "Tools, some parts, can come out &amp; he=
lp,=20
      limited garage space." to "Cold beer on hand at all=20
      times."<BR><BR>Comments can be anything else you'd care to add.<BR><B=
R>And=20
      it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and t=
he=20
      line for his Magnette. Other people include all their special-interes=
t=20
      cars (we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some=20
      history.<BR><BR>If you haven't already, send me your info now, while =
we're=20
      all still thinking of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next=20
      month.<BR><BR>Let me know at <A title=3Dmailto:[email-masked]=
=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> if yo=
u have=20
      any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam=20
      everyone.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR><BR>Mike=20
      Jacobsen<BR><BR>--------------------------------------------<BR>On We=
d,=20
      11/27/13, Allen Bachelder &lt;<A title=3Dmailto:[email-masked]=
=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;=20
      wrote:<BR><BR>Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member<BR>To: "zmagnette" &lt;=
<A=20
      title=3Dmailto:[email-masked]=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>=
&gt;,=20
      "John Taft" &lt;<A title=3Dmailto:[email-masked]=20
      href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;<BR>Date:=
=20
      Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM<BR><BR>Everybody...&nbsp;<BR>.=
..=20
      Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us whe=
n the=20
      next revision is coming out.=20
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