Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 121

From: Dave MacKay <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:56:31 -0400

Thank you Dave.

Before seeing your message I was about to unsubscribe (after having been
on the list for >30 years).

Regards,

Dave MacKay
1960 TR3A s/n 68639L
near Toronto, Canada

>Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 11:28:43 +0000 (UTC)
>From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
>To: "auprichard uprichard.net" <[email-masked]>,
>       John Macartney <[email-masked]>,
>       dave northrup <[email-masked]>
>Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA
>
>There is no place on this list for this kind of arrogant, xenophobic
invective rants.? You do not speak for a majority of Americans and
certainly not me!? Only a small, vocal minority have drunk the koolaid.?
Put a sock in it.
>Dave

    On Friday, July 3, 2026 at 09:35:16 PM CDT, dave northrup
<[email-masked]> wrote:

Many of us are avid supporters of Donal J Trump, perhaps one of the
greatest presidents this country has ever seen.? Just because you think
socialism works, and you believe the highly prejudiced and liberal leaning
press does not make it true.

 ?

Furthermore, you are not a citizen of this country; you benefited
tremendously from the generosity of us in this country when you were here
(and me in particular who in fact made your journey possible), and you
have no damn business being so critical of a society to which you neither
belong nor are a part.? Stay the hell on your side of the ocean.? This
country is absolutely the greatest country on earth, and if it wasn?t for
us you?d be speaking German.

 ?

Trump has brough greatness to this country instead of the pro gay, pro
trans, and highly negative aspirations of the previous administration.

 ?

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]>On Behalf Of auprichard
uprichard.net
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 6:20 AM
To: John Macartney <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA

 ?

Can we please keep this chat page for discussions on our cars?

 ?

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]>On Behalf Of John
Macartney
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2026 2:56 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] Happy Birthday USA

 ?

Friends, I?m going to be away from a keyboard or tablet pad on 4th July
which is always an important date for all y?all. We?ve seen on the UK news
that a certain person who doesn?t need to be named is trying to focus the
250th celebrations

 ?
 Friends,  ? I?m going to be away from a keyboard or tablet pad on 4th
July which is always an important date for all y?all. We?ve seen on the UK
news that a certain person who doesn?t need to be named is trying to focus
the 250th celebrations on himself. Over the centuries, our two countries
have waxed and waned towards one another which is all part of life and now
we seem to be too far apart. Looking into the future, that situation will
hopefully rectify itself but in the meantime to my many friends on this
list - and elsewhere, Happy Birthday USA on 4th July, 2026.  ? Jonmac  ?
PS. I have here a skid of letters written by an ancestor, Captain John
Macartney, Royal Navy and Captain of HMS PRINCESS AMELIA to the Mayor of
Norfolk, Virginia in 1776. The correspondence deals with the refusal by
the Mayor to re-victual the seven ships under Captain Mac?s command that
were moored in Norfolk harbour. Payment would be in gold but the mayor
continued to refuse. At that point, the Captain ma  de it clear he would
order his squadron to bring their massed guns to bear on the township and
open fire. Fortunately for everyone, the mayor changed his mind and
massacre was averted. I apologise for any distress or hard feeling that
may still exist in Norfolk and anywhere else :)  ? JM **
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From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2026 14:13:42 -0500

David Nothrup is the same guy that accused Albert of torching his own
business, The Roadster Factory, which is why I avoid reading anything
Northrup  post.

I too, thank Dave Massey, for speaking up for most of us.

  Ron

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Dave MacKay
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2026 1:57 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 19, Issue 121

Thank you Dave.

Before seeing your message I was about to unsubscribe (after having been on
the list for >30 years).

Regards,

Dave MacKay
1960 TR3A s/n 68639L
near Toronto, Canada

>There is no place on this list for this kind of arrogant, xenophobic
invective rants.? You do not speak for a majority of Americans and certainly
not me!? Only a small, vocal minority have drunk the koolaid.?
Put a sock in it.

Many of us are avid supporters of Donal J Trump, perhaps one of the greatest
presidents this country has ever seen.? Just because you think socialism
works, and you believe the highly prejudiced and liberal leaning press does
not make it true.

 ?

Furthermore, you are not a citizen of this country; you benefited
tremendously from the generosity of us in this country when you were here
(and me in particular who in fact made your journey possible), and you have
no damn business being so critical of a society to which you neither belong
nor are a part.? Stay the hell on your side of the ocean.? This country is
absolutely the greatest country on earth, and if it wasn?t for us you?d be
speaking German.

 ?

 ?

 ?

 ?

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]>On Behalf Of John Macartney
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2026 2:56 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] Happy Birthday USA

 ?

 ?
 Friends,  ? I?m going to be away from a keyboard or tablet pad on 4th July
which is always an important date for all y?all. We?ve seen on the UK news
that a certain person who doesn?t need to be named is trying to focus the
250th celebrations on himself. Over the centuries, our two countries have
waxed and waned towards one another which is all part of life and now we
seem to be too far apart. Looking into the future, that situation will
hopefully rectify itself but in the meantime to my many friends on this list
- and elsewhere, Happy Birthday USA on 4th July, 2026.  ? Jonmac  ?
PS. I have here a skid of letters written by an ancestor, Captain John
Macartney, Royal Navy and Captain of HMS PRINCESS AMELIA to the Mayor of
Norfolk, Virginia in 1776. The correspondence deals with the refusal by the
Mayor to re-victual the seven ships under Captain Mac?s command that were
moored in Norfolk harbour. Payment would be in gold but the mayor continued
to refuse. At that point, the Captain ma  de it clear he would order his
squadron to bring their massed guns to bear on the township and open fire.
Fortunately for everyone, the mayor changed his mind and massacre was
averted. I apologise for any distress or hard feeling that may still exist
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 Thank you Dave.

Regards,

Dave MacKay
1960 TR3A s/n 68639L
near Toronto, Canada

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 John Macartney <[email-masked]>,
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July which is always an important date for all y?all. We?ve seen on the UK
news that a certain person who doesn?t need to be named is trying to focus
the 250th celebrations on himself. Over the centuries, our two countries
have waxed and waned towards one another which is all part of life and now
we seem to be too far apart. Looking into the future, that situation will
hopefully rectify itself but in the meantime to my many friends on this
list - and elsewhere, Happy Birthday USA on 4th July, 2026.=C2=A0 ? Jonmac=
=C2=A0 ?
PS. I have here a skid of letters written by an ancestor, Captain John
Macartney, Royal Navy and Captain of HMS PRINCESS AMELIA to the Mayor of
Norfolk, Virginia in 1776. The correspondence deals with the refusal by
the Mayor to re-victual the seven ships under Captain Mac?s command that
were moored in Norfolk harbour. Payment would be in gold but the mayor
continued to refuse. At that point, the Captain ma=C2=A0 de it clear he wou=
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                        On Saturday, July 4, 2026 at 02:39:55 PM CDT, Dave =
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                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you Dave.<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Before seeing your message I was about to u=
nsubscribe (after having been<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">on the list for &gt=
;30 years).<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave MacKay<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">1960 TR3A s/n 68639L<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">near Toronto,=
 Canada<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;Date: Sat,=
 4 Jul 2026 11:28:43 +0000 (UTC)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;From: DAVID =
MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;To: "aupr=
ichard uprichard.net" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">johnbmacart=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;  da=
ve northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;Subject:=
 Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt;There is no place on this list for this kind of arrogant, xe=
nophobic<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">invective rants.? You do not speak for a=
 majority of Americans and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">certainly not me!? Onl=
y a small, vocal minority have drunk the koolaid.?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Put a sock in it.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;Dave<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; On Friday, July 3,=
 2026 at 09:35:16 PM CDT, dave northrup<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dave@rant=
eer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Many of us are avid supporters of Donal J Trump=
, perhaps one of the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">greatest presidents this cou=
ntry has ever seen.? Just because you think<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">socia=
lism works, and you believe the highly prejudiced and liberal leaning<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">press does not make it true.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> ?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Furthermore, you are not a citizen of this country; you benefited<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">tremendously from the generosity of us in this co=
untry when you were here<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">(and me in particular wh=
o in fact made your journey possible), and you<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">ha=
ve no damn business being so critical of a society to which you neither<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">belong nor are a part.? Stay the hell on your side o=
f the ocean.? This<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">country is absolutely the grea=
test country on earth, and if it wasn?t for<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">us yo=
u?d be speaking German.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"> ?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Trump has brough =
greatness to this country instead of the pro gay, pro<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">trans, and highly negative aspirations of the previous administration.=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> ?<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;On Behalf Of auprichard<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">uprichard.net<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Friday, July 3, 2026 6:2=
0 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:joh=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">johnbmacartney@gmx.=
com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subje=
ct: Re: [TR] Happy Birthday USA<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"> ?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Can we pl=
ease keep this chat page for discussions on our cars?<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> ?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">From: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
am.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;On Behalf Of John<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Macartney<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2026 2:56 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [TR] =
Happy Birthday USA<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> ?<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Friends, I?m going to =
be away from a keyboard or tablet pad on 4th July<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>which is always an important date for all y?all. We?ve seen on the UK news=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">that a certain person who doesn?t need to be nam=
ed is trying to focus the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">250th celebrations<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> ?<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"> Friends,&nbsp; ? I?m going to be away from a keyboard or tablet pad on =
4th<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">July which is always an important date for al=
l y?all. We?ve seen on the UK<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">news that a certain=
 person who doesn?t need to be named is trying to focus<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">the 250th celebrations on himself. Over the centuries, our two cou=
ntries<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">have waxed and waned towards one another w=
hich is all part of life and now<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">we seem to be to=
o far apart. Looking into the future, that situation will<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">hopefully rectify itself but in the meantime to my many friends on=
 this<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">list - and elsewhere, Happy Birthday USA on=
 4th July, 2026.&nbsp; ? Jonmac&nbsp; ?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">PS. I hav=
e here a skid of letters written by an ancestor, Captain John<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Macartney, Royal Navy and Captain of HMS PRINCESS AMELIA to th=
e Mayor of<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Norfolk, Virginia in 1776. The corresp=
ondence deals with the refusal by<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the Mayor to re=
-victual the seven ships under Captain Mac?s command that<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">were moored in Norfolk harbour. Payment would be in gold but the m=
ayor<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">continued to refuse. At that point, the Capt=
ain ma&nbsp; de it clear he would<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">order his squad=
ron to bring their massed guns to bear on the township and<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">open fire. Fortunately for everyone, the mayor changed his mind a=
nd<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">massacre was averted. I apologise for any dist=
ress or hard feeling that<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">may still exist in Norf=
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Rather humorous that one could remove the I and H from the "TRIUMPH" letters and drive around in a "TRUMP".

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