Subject: [TR] Clutch Return Spring and Pedal Position

From: Rochlin Robert <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 2 May 2026 10:23:07 -0400

I've pulled the old TR6 out of hibernation tuned it and adjusted the valve for the upcoming season. The car is running great. 
	 I'm now  attempting to install the clutch return spring on the TR6.  I haven't had a return spring in place since I acquired  the car over 30 years ago, but I had the spring and decided to install it. The issue is that without the spring the clutch pedal is at the proper orientation to the brake pedal but when I install the spring the clutch pedal pulls  toward the driver and is much higher than should be and also pulls the clutch actuating rod out of the clutch master cylinder. It almost seems as if there is some kind of stop missing. What is supposed to keep the clutch pedal from hyperextending toward the driver with the return spring in place? 
	As I said, I haven't had the spring in place since I got the car and can continue to live without it, but I'd like to install it if it will contribute to having a bit more footwell room.
	Thanks.
	Best,
	Bob
	'72 TR6.
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From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 2 May 2026 19:39:57 +0100

Rob,

Are you sure the spring you’ve got is the correct length? What you describe seems more than a bit unusual. It’s so long since I’ve had my head in a TR footwell, I can’t remember how the spring was attached to the body. Can others enlighten us/me with a pic or two of their own cars?

Jonmac

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 3 May 2026 10:57:53 +0000 (UTC)

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It sounds like the circlip that retains the actuating rod has gone missing.=
=C2=A0 This circlip prevents the rod from exiting the end of the cylinder a=
nd stops pedal travel to a reasonable position depending on the amount of w=
ear and elongation that has occurred over the years in the holes for the cl=
evis pin which I can attest from experience can be considerable.=C2=A0 But =
I digress.=C2=A0 There should be a circlip that keeps the actuating rod cap=
tive in the cylinder and if it is not there you run the risk of loosing the=
 ability of disengaging the clutch which can ruin your day.
Dave=20

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    On Saturday, May 2, 2026 at 03:59:37 PM CDT, John Macartney <johnbmacar=
[email-masked]> wrote:  =20

 Rob,

Are you sure the spring you=E2=80=99ve got is the correct length? What you =
describe seems more than a bit unusual. It=E2=80=99s so long since I=E2=80=
=99ve had my head in a TR footwell, I can=E2=80=99t remember how the spring=
 was attached to the body. Can others enlighten us/me with a pic or two of =
their own cars?

Jonmac

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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I've pulled the old TR6 out of hibernation tuned it and adju=
sted the valve for the upcoming season. The car is running great.=20
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'm now=C2=A0 attempting to install the clutch return spring=
 on the TR6.=C2=A0 I haven't had a return spring in place since I acquired=
=C2=A0 the car over 30 years ago, but I had the spring and decided to insta=
ll it. The issue is that without the spring the clutch pedal is at the prop=
er orientation to the brake pedal but when I install the spring the clutch =
pedal pulls=C2=A0 toward the driver and is much higher than should be and a=
lso pulls the clutch actuating rod out of the clutch master cylinder. It al=
most seems as if there is some kind of stop missing. What is supposed to ke=
ep the clutch pedal from hyperextending toward the driver with the return s=
pring in place?=20
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 As I said, I haven't had the spring in place since I got the=
 car and can continue to live without it, but I'd like to install it if it =
will contribute to having a bit more footwell room.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Thanks.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Best,
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Bob
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 '72 TR6.

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actuating rod has gone missing.&nbsp; This circlip prevents the rod from ex=
iting the end of the cylinder and stops pedal travel to a reasonable positi=
on depending on the amount of wear and elongation that has occurred over th=
e years in the holes for the clevis pin which I can attest from experience =
can be considerable.&nbsp; But I digress.&nbsp; There should be a circlip t=
hat keeps the actuating rod captive in the cylinder and if it is not there =
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div><div dir=3D"ltr">Are you sure the spring you=E2=80=99ve got is the corr=
ect length? What you describe seems more than a bit unusual. It=E2=80=99s s=
o long since I=E2=80=99ve had my head in a TR footwell, I can=E2=80=99t rem=
ember how the spring was attached to the body. Can others enlighten us/me w=
ith a pic or two of their own cars?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Jonmac<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; On 2 May 2026, at 15:23, Rochlin Robert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrochlin@=
comcast.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; I've pulled the old TR6 out of hi=
bernation tuned it and adjusted the valve for the upcoming season. The car =
is running great. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  I'm now&nbs=
p; attempting to install the clutch return spring on the TR6.&nbsp; I haven=
't had a return spring in place since I acquired&nbsp; the car over 30 year=
s ago, but I had the spring and decided to install it. The issue is that wi=
thout the spring the clutch pedal is at the proper orientation to the brake=
 pedal but when I install the spring the clutch pedal pulls&nbsp; toward th=
e driver and is much higher than should be and also pulls the clutch actuat=
ing rod out of the clutch master cylinder. It almost seems as if there is s=
ome kind of stop missing. What is supposed to keep the clutch pedal from hy=
perextending toward the driver with the return spring in place? <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; As I said, I haven't had the spring in pl=
ace since I got the car and can continue to live without it, but I'd like t=
o install it if it will contribute to having a bit more footwell room.<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Thanks.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Best,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Bob<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; '72 TR6.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
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