Subject: Re: [TR] Paperwork

From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2026 13:58:24 -0400

Wow! The tree of knowledge, backstory, wisdom and entertainment keeps growing! I'm sure that all of us who subscribe to this list would be happy to see the results of your "wallet" cleaning.

Thanks!

Alex Thomson
Connecticut Triumph Register

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of John Macartney
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2026 12:23 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] Paperwork

Hi, Everyone,
I’ve been going through a large document wallet that Dad kept for many decades prior to his death in 1979 and have come across some potentially very interesting stuff (for me) that may be of interest to some or all of you?
The easy ones are likely very much in the “absolute unobtainium” category and are copies of road tests from the ‘Autocar’ and ‘Motor’ magazines of several pre WW2 Triumph car models written and pictured pre-war. Which models I can’t currently say as it means getting up off my arse and having a rummage through the wallet. I must say that while all of them are scannable, the paper size is larger than that used on either side of the pond today. To get them to fit current screens, I’ll have to probably do them as .jpegs and you’ll then have to zoom your screens to hopefully make them reasonably legible. The nearest font type can best be described as Times New Roman Narrow - so not ideal - and printed at least 75 or more years ago.
The other subject is for the technical bods among you and are parts 1 and 2 of two *very* detailed papers by David Eley, Standard Triumphs SC engine designer. The SC engine was the Small Car power unit used in the Standard/Triumph Ten car of the early 1950s which engine was used in the Eight, Ten, Herald, Spitfire, Toledo and Dolomite in ever-increasing capacities of 803, 948 and later 1147, 1296 and 1493 capacities. David’s papers were written and presented by him to the UK’s Institute of Mechanical Engineers of which august body, David was a full-blown member. Images of charts of engineering drawings, power curves and the results in text, of evaluations and development stories. I find them fascinating and I’m fairly certain a good few club magazine editors might want to use some or all this stuff in mags/newsletters providing they properly acknowledge the original publication source and copyright. Let’s face it, a magazine editors job isn’t a happy one at the best of times in finding stuff that’s new for each edition. Done it myself on many occasions and any copy on an informed subject has to be better than the seemingly endless pictures of rows of cars with open bonnets and people sitting at pub/eatery tables looking bored stiff.
Let me know how some of you feel as there’s a deal of scanning to do - or not.

Jonmac
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From: "J.C. Hassall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2026 14:32:26 -0400

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Good day Jonmac,

Thank you for your generous offer to scan papers by David Eley.  As a long
retired Mechanical Engineer, and one who has tweaked engines over the
years, I'd be fascinated to see how it was done "back in the day".  That
said, if the scanning effort is a bridge too far, don't worry.  But please
do convey the documents to someone who will preserve and archive them, with
the reverence and proper treatment they deserve.

Thanks for all your contributions to our collective knowledge over the year=
s

jim

On Sun, Mar 22, 2026 at 1:30=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney <johnbmacartney@gmx.=
com>
wrote:

> Hi, Everyone,
> I=E2=80=99ve been going through a large document wallet that Dad kept for=
 many
> decades prior to his death in 1979 and have come across some potentially
> very interesting stuff (for me) that may be of interest to some or all of
> you?
> The easy ones are likely very much in the =E2=80=9Cabsolute unobtainium=
=E2=80=9D category
> and are copies of road tests from the =E2=80=98Autocar=E2=80=99 and =E2=
=80=98Motor=E2=80=99 magazines of
> several pre WW2 Triumph car models written and pictured pre-war. Which
> models I can=E2=80=99t currently say as it means getting up off my arse a=
nd having
> a rummage through the wallet. I must say that while all of them are
> scannable, the paper size is larger than that used on either side of the
> pond today. To get them to fit current screens, I=E2=80=99ll have to prob=
ably do
> them as .jpegs and you=E2=80=99ll then have to zoom your screens to hopef=
ully make
> them reasonably legible. The nearest font type can best be described as
> Times New Roman Narrow - so not ideal - and printed at least 75 or more
> years ago.
> The other subject is for the technical bods among you and are parts 1 and
> 2 of two *very* detailed papers by David Eley, Standard Triumphs SC engin=
e
> designer. The SC engine was the Small Car power unit used in the
> Standard/Triumph Ten car of the early 1950s which engine was used in the
> Eight, Ten, Herald, Spitfire, Toledo and Dolomite in ever-increasing
> capacities of 803, 948 and later 1147, 1296 and 1493 capacities. David=E2=
=80=99s
> papers were written and presented by him to the UK=E2=80=99s Institute of
> Mechanical Engineers of which august body, David was a full-blown member.
> Images of charts of engineering drawings, power curves and the results in
> text, of evaluations and development stories. I find them fascinating and
> I=E2=80=99m fairly certain a good few club magazine editors might want to=
 use some
> or all this stuff in mags/newsletters providing they properly acknowledge
> the original publication source and copyright. Let=E2=80=99s face it, a m=
agazine
> editors job isn=E2=80=99t a happy one at the best of times in finding stu=
ff that=E2=80=99s
> new for each edition. Done it myself on many occasions and any copy on an
> informed subject has to be better than the seemingly endless pictures of
> rows of cars with open bonnets and people sitting at pub/eatery tables
> looking bored stiff.
> Let me know how some of you feel as there=E2=80=99s a deal of scanning to=
 do - or
> not.
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Good day Jonmac,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div>Thank you for your generous offer to scan papers by David Eley=
.=C2=A0 As a long retired Mechanical Engineer, and one who has tweaked engi=
nes over the years, I&#39;d be fascinated to see how it was done &quot;back=
 in the day&quot;.=C2=A0 That said, if the scanning effort is a bridge too =
far, don&#39;t worry.=C2=A0 But please do convey the documents to someone w=
ho will preserve and archive them, with the reverence and proper treatment =
they deserve.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for all your contributions to=
 our collective knowledge over the years</div><div><br></div><div>jim</div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 22, 2026 at 1:30=E2=80=AFPM John Macartney &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi, Everyon=
e,<br>
I=E2=80=99ve been going through a large document wallet that Dad kept for m=
any decades prior to his death in 1979 and have come across some potentiall=
y very interesting stuff (for me) that may be of interest to some or all of=
 you?<br>
The easy ones are likely very much in the =E2=80=9Cabsolute unobtainium=E2=
=80=9D category and are copies of road tests from the =E2=80=98Autocar=E2=
=80=99 and =E2=80=98Motor=E2=80=99 magazines of several pre WW2 Triumph car=
 models written and pictured pre-war. Which models I can=E2=80=99t currentl=
y say as it means getting up off my arse and having a rummage through the w=
allet. I must say that while all of them are scannable, the paper size is l=
arger than that used on either side of the pond today. To get them to fit c=
urrent screens, I=E2=80=99ll have to probably do them as .jpegs and you=E2=
=80=99ll then have to zoom your screens to hopefully make them reasonably l=
egible. The nearest font type can best be described as Times New Roman Narr=
ow - so not ideal - and printed at least 75 or more years ago.<br>
The other subject is for the technical bods among you and are parts 1 and 2=
 of two *very* detailed papers by David Eley, Standard Triumphs SC engine d=
esigner. The SC engine was the Small Car power unit used in the Standard/Tr=
iumph Ten car of the early 1950s which engine was used in the Eight, Ten, H=
erald, Spitfire, Toledo and Dolomite in ever-increasing capacities of 803, =
948 and later 1147, 1296 and 1493 capacities. David=E2=80=99s papers were w=
ritten and presented by him to the UK=E2=80=99s Institute of Mechanical Eng=
ineers of which august body, David was a full-blown member. Images of chart=
s of engineering drawings, power curves and the results in text, of evaluat=
ions and development stories. I find them fascinating and I=E2=80=99m fairl=
y certain a good few club magazine editors might want to use some or all th=
is stuff in mags/newsletters providing they properly acknowledge the origin=
al publication source and copyright. Let=E2=80=99s face it, a magazine edit=
ors job isn=E2=80=99t a happy one at the best of times in finding stuff tha=
t=E2=80=99s new for each edition. Done it myself on many occasions and any =
copy on an informed subject has to be better than the seemingly endless pic=
tures of rows of cars with open bonnets and people sitting at pub/eatery ta=
bles looking bored stiff.<br>
Let me know how some of you feel as there=E2=80=99s a deal of scanning to d=
o - or not.<br>
<br>
Jonmac<br>
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