Subject: Re: [TR] Another story from back in the day

From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2026 19:58:07 -0500

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Wow! What another great story! Thanks for sharing.

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Alex Thomson

Connecticut Triumph Register

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of JOHN =
MACARTNEY
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2026 10:11 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] Another story from back in the day

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An anecdote that no Public Relations professional is ever likely to =
admit to. Enjoy.

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Jonmac

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Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2026 02:38:45 +0000 (UTC)

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 i missed it. was it to all the group?

    On Friday, March 6, 2026 at 05:10:54 PM PST, Alex&Janet Thomson <aljlth=
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Wow! What another great story! Thanks for sharing.

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Alex Thomson

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of JOHN MACARTNE=
Y
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Subject: [TR] Another story from back in the day

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An anecdote=C2=A0that no Public Relations professional is ever likely to ad=
mit to. Enjoy.

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ns-serif;color:#1F497D;">Alex Thomson</span></p><p class=3D"ydp7826e8b7yiv9=
431693743MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;=
color:#1F497D;">Connecticut Triumph Register</span></p><p class=3D"ydp7826e=
8b7yiv9431693743MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans=
-serif;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div id=3D"ydp7826e8b7yiv943169374=
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ay, March 6, 2026 10:11 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> [email-masked]=
.net<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Another story from back in the =
day</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"ydp7826e8b7yiv9431693743MsoNormal"> &=
nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"ydp7826e8b7yiv9431693743MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">An anecdote&nbsp;that no Pub=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2026 12:35:09 +0000 (UTC)

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Another great history of life at Triumph.=C2=A0=C2=A0
The only thing is there is a need for a little explanation regarding one of=
 the buildings in the map of the site.=C2=A0 Kremlin?!!!
Dave=20

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"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The only thing is there is a need for a little =
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Sorry, my fault. =E2=80=9CThe Kremlin=E2=80=9D came about in the mid 1950=E2=
=80=99s and was in use by former CEO, Alice Dick, and a limited number of hi=
s cohorts. Constructed at a time when there was some profligacy with company=
 finances. When Leyland bought the company in 1961, it fell into disuse. Rat=
her than demolish it, the decision was taken to use it for odd conferences a=
nd as a new car handover point for VIPs. When I knew it, the facility was st=
ill rather ostentatious and IMHO, overly opulent for the purposes it didn=E2=
=80=99t really serve.

JM

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> Another great history of life at Triumph. =20
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f the buildings in the map of the site.  Kremlin?!!!
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sor=
ry, my fault. =E2=80=9CThe Kremlin=E2=80=9D came about in the mid 1950=E2=80=
=99s and was in use by former CEO, Alice Dick, and a limited number of his c=
ohorts. Constructed at a time when there was some profligacy with company fi=
nances. When Leyland bought the company in 1961, it fell into disuse. Rather=
 than demolish it, the decision was taken to use it for odd conferences and a=
s a new car handover point for VIPs. When I knew it, the facility was still r=
ather ostentatious and IMHO, overly opulent for the purposes it didn=E2=80=99=
t really serve.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 7 Mar 2026, at 12:35, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockq=
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ph.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The only thing is there is a need for a lit=
tle explanation regarding one of the buildings in the map of the site.&nbsp;=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2026 16:12:21 +0000 (UTC)

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So you chose Kremlin over Taj Ma Conventry.=C2=A0 A sign of the times, I gu=
ess.=C2=A0 What with he cold war in full swing and all.=C2=A0 Were the hoi =
palloi required to prostrate themselves before entering or were they just b=
arred all together?=C2=A0 Of course that is just a rhetorical question.=C2=
=A0 We all know the answer.
Many thanks for the remembrances.=C2=A0
Dave=20

=20

    On Saturday, March 7, 2026 at 08:17:05 AM CST, John Macartney <johnbmac=
[email-masked]> wrote:  =20

 Sorry, my fault. =E2=80=9CThe Kremlin=E2=80=9D came about in the mid 1950=
=E2=80=99s and was in use by former CEO, Alice Dick, and a limited number o=
f his cohorts. Constructed at a time when there was some profligacy with co=
mpany finances. When Leyland bought the company in 1961, it fell into disus=
e. Rather than demolish it, the decision was taken to use it for odd confer=
ences and as a new car handover point for VIPs. When I knew it, the facilit=
y was still rather ostentatious and IMHO, overly opulent for the purposes i=
t didn=E2=80=99t really serve.
JM
On 7 Mar 2026, at 12:35, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

=20

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp1ff4bc9cyahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">So you chose Kremlin over Taj Ma Conventry.&=
nbsp; A sign of the times, I guess.&nbsp; What with he cold war in full swi=
ng and all.&nbsp; Were the hoi palloi required to prostrate themselves befo=
re entering or were they just barred all together?&nbsp; Of course that is =
just a rhetorical question.&nbsp; We all know the answer.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
>Many thanks for the remembrances.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"=
ydp1ff4bc9csignature"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-=
size-adjust: none; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12=
pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div s=
tyle=3D"color: black; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-weig=
ht: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; fon=
t-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br></f=
ont></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color=
:black;"><br></span></div><br></div></div></div></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydp105ad43eyahoo_quoted_3363726723" class=3D"ydp10=
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                <div class=3D"ydp105ad43equoted-text-header">
                        On Saturday, March 7, 2026 at 08:17:05 AM CST, John=
 Macartney &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                </div><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica=
, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left: 1px solid #cc=
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ly_quote_container" data-split-quote-node=3D"true">
                <div><br></div><div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp105ad43eyiv5073565107"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry, my fault. =E2=80=9CThe Kremlin=E2=80=9D =
came about in the mid 1950=E2=80=99s and was in use by former CEO, Alice Di=
ck, and a limited number of his cohorts. Constructed at a time when there w=
as some profligacy with company finances. When Leyland bought the company i=
n 1961, it fell into disuse. Rather than demolish it, the decision was take=
n to use it for odd conferences and as a new car handover point for VIPs. W=
hen I knew it, the facility was still rather ostentatious and IMHO, overly =
opulent for the purposes it didn=E2=80=99t really serve.</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div id=3D"ydp105ad43=
eyiv5073565107yqt19337" class=3D"ydp105ad43eyiv5073565107yqt4023728562"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">On 7 Mar 2026, at 12:35, DAVID MASSEY &lt;=
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp105ad43=
eyiv5073565107ydp28868561yahoo-style-wrap"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Another gr=
eat history of life at Triumph.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The only thing is there is a need for a li=
ttle explanation regarding one of the buildings in the map of the site.&nbs=
p; Kremlin?!!!</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp105ad43e=
yiv5073565107ydp28868561signature"><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:nor=
mal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:=
12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div sty=
le=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:norma=
l;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, =
Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br clear=3D"none"></fon=
t></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"><br clear=3D"none"></span></div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div=
></div>
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96893065" class=3D"ydp105ad43eyiv5073565107ydp8f159922yahoo_quoted"><div st=
yle=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"y=
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t-header">
                        On Friday, March 6, 2026 at 09:35:02 AM CST, JOHN M=
ACARTNEY &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left:1px solid #ccc=
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15849"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div>An an=
ecdote&nbsp;that no Public Relations professional is ever likely to admit t=
o. Enjoy.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

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=E2=80=98=E2=80=98Twas not I that chose the name. Doubt it if anyone now kno=
ws. Certainly Cold War epoch and you were usually required to cross yourself=
 before entering. When I put the key numbers to the site buildings, I though=
t it better to write Social Club, rather than its more usual name of the =E2=
=80=98Glue Pot=E2=80=99. Whatever you called it, the number of people emergi=
ng from it after the lunch break were mostly seriously the worse for wear wi=
th booze - and then went back to operating machinery! Those were the days we=
 recall where =E2=80=98elf =E2=80=98n safety was for the birds:)

JM

> On 7 Mar 2026, at 16:12, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> So you chose Kremlin over Taj Ma Conventry.  A sign of the times, I guess.=
  What with he cold war in full swing and all.  Were the hoi palloi required=
 to prostrate themselves before entering or were they just barred all togeth=
er?  Of course that is just a rhetorical question.  We all know the answer.
>=20
> Many thanks for the remembrances.=20
>=20
> Dave=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Saturday, March 7, 2026 at 08:17:05 AM CST, John Macartney <johnbmacart=
>>=20
>> Dave=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Friday, March 6, 2026 at 09:35:02 AM CST, JOHN MACARTNEY <johnbmacartn=
[email-masked]> wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> An anecdote that no Public Relations professional is ever likely to admit=
 to. Enjoy.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=
=80=98=E2=80=98Twas not I that chose the name. Doubt it if anyone now knows.=
 Certainly Cold War epoch and you were usually required to cross yourself be=
fore entering. When I put the key numbers to the site buildings, I thought i=
t better to write Social Club, rather than its more usual name of the =E2=80=
=98Glue Pot=E2=80=99. Whatever you called it, the number of people emerging f=
rom it after the lunch break were mostly seriously the worse for wear with b=
ooze - and then went back to operating machinery! Those were the days we rec=
all where =E2=80=98elf =E2=80=98n safety was for the birds:)</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 7 Mar 2026,=
 at 16:12, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave1masse=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div class=3D"ydp1ff4bc9cyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Arial, H=
elvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"f=
alse">So you chose Kremlin over Taj Ma Conventry.&nbsp; A sign of the times,=
 I guess.&nbsp; What with he cold war in full swing and all.&nbsp; Were the h=
oi palloi required to prostrate themselves before entering or were they just=
 barred all together?&nbsp; Of course that is just a rhetorical question.&nb=
sp; We all know the answer.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Many thanks for the remembrance=
s.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp1ff4bc9csignature"><div style=3D=
"color: black; font-style: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-weight: norm=
al; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family:=
 Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div style=3D"color: black; font-style: norm=
al; font-size-adjust: none; font-weight: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-=
size: 12pt; line-height: normal; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"=
><div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br></span></div><br></div></div>=
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ad43eyahoo_quoted"><div class=3D"ydp105ad43eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-=
family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">
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               =20
                <div class=3D"ydp105ad43equoted-text-header">
                        On Saturday, March 7, 2026 at 08:17:05 AM CST, John M=
acartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt; wrote:
                    </div>
                </div><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica,=
 Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left: 1px solid #ccc;=
padding-left: 8px;margin: 0px 0px 0px 8px" class=3D"ydp105ad43einline_reply_=
quote_container" data-split-quote-node=3D"true">
                <div><br></div><div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp105ad43eyiv5073565107"><div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sorry, my fault. =E2=80=9CThe Kremlin=E2=80=9D ca=
me about in the mid 1950=E2=80=99s and was in use by former CEO, Alice Dick,=
 and a limited number of his cohorts. Constructed at a time when there was s=
ome profligacy with company finances. When Leyland bought the company in 196=
1, it fell into disuse. Rather than demolish it, the decision was taken to u=
se it for odd conferences and as a new car handover point for VIPs. When I k=
new it, the facility was still rather ostentatious and IMHO, overly opulent f=
or the purposes it didn=E2=80=99t really serve.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div id=3D"ydp105ad43eyiv5073565=
107yqt19337" class=3D"ydp105ad43eyiv5073565107yqt4023728562"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br clear=3D"none">On 7 Mar 2026, at 12:35, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a shape=3D"r=
ect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">d=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:Arial, H=
elvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"ydp105ad43eyiv5073565107ydp28=
868561yahoo-style-wrap"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Another great history of life a=
t Triumph.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">The only thing is there is a need for a little explanation regard=
ing one of the buildings in the map of the site.&nbsp; Kremlin?!!!</div><div=
><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp105ad43eyiv5073565107ydp28868561s=
ignature"><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:none;=
font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;fon=
t-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div style=3D"color:black;font-style=
:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-si=
ze:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div><=
font size=3D"4">Dave <br clear=3D"none"></font></div><div><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br clear=3D"none"></span=
></div><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></div>
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-header">
                        On Friday, March 6, 2026 at 09:35:02 AM CST, JOHN MA=
CARTNEY &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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 Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;border-left:1px solid #ccc;p=
adding-left:8px;margin:0px 0px 0px 8px;" class=3D"ydp105ad43eyiv5073565107yd=
p8f159922inline_reply_quote_container">
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5849"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div>An anec=
dote&nbsp;that no Public Relations professional is ever likely to admit to. E=
njoy.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2026 23:05:08 +0000 (UTC)

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 it so remeinds of the days back when i was apreniced in the drawing office=
.mrs Moor would come around at 10 with the tea cart, she know everyones mil=
k and sugar requirments.same at 11:30 asking who was staying for lunch and =
agin at 3:00 pm.guys in the shop were always a place of fun.just rememberin=
g Billy Pong..not a real name.
love your remisicence .
Frank

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[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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dmit to. Enjoy.=C2=A0Jonmac** [email-masked] **

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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">it so remeinds of the days back when i was apreniced in the drawing office.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">mrs Moor would come around at 10 with the tea cart, she know everyones milk and sugar requirments.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">same at 11:30 asking who was staying for lunch and agin at 3:00 pm.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">guys in the shop were always a place of fun.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">just remembering Billy Pong..not a real name.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">love your remisicence .</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Frank</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
        
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                        On Friday, March 6, 2026 at 07:37:03 AM PST, JOHN MACARTNEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id="ydp9d5774dcyiv7353711449"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:12.0px;"><div>An anecdote&nbsp;that no Public Relations professional is ever likely to admit to. Enjoy.</div>

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