Subject: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process

From: Stephen Oertwig <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 20:04:12 -0600

I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.

Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. 

Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates and body numbers.

Steve

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> From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
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> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
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> To: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
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> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.  Of course, the ?3? will be wrong.
> Bill
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> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?  H. Ford
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> From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
> To: Jerry Van Vlack <[email-masked]>
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> Thanks, I'll check them out.
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> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <[email-masked]>
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>> Hi Sujit,
>> 
>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the
>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color change.
>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You
>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>> 
>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running the
>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when
>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets
>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of a
>> head gasket issue.
>> 
>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one
>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -
>> Made in USA : Automotive
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=sr_1_3?crid=B5BELSHHE2V2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=se&keywords=combustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=1767361665&sprefix=Combustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=8-3>
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>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts
>> store.
>> 
>> Hope this helps
>> 
>> JVV
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>> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of Sujit Roy
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>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>> *To:* Triumphs <[email-masked]>
>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>> 
>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my
>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.
>> 
>> Sujit
>> 
>> --
>> Sujit Roy
>> Cupertino, California
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>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
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 I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one=
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 of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of =
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ate. At least attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to ge=
t the estate titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying=
 the different rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Then need to find new 2000 =
plate. The original commission plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure i=
t is because each worker was given one stamp of different sizes so there wa=
s no consistency in stamping details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; wa=
s commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here =
in country. Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all t=
he other commission plates and body numbers.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Steve<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
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target=3D"_blank">CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw@mail.=
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charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; Thanks, I'll check them out.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; wrote:<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Hi Sujit,<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I have ex=
perience with these type kits and they all work basically the<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looki=
ng for a color change.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; The multiple test=
 claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt;&gt; don't need to use much fluid for each test.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Having said this you =
can also look for a blown head gasket by running the<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;&gt; car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat ope=
ns. If when<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; it opens you only observe co=
olant flowing you're good. If coolant gets<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&g=
t; blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of=
 a<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; head gasket issue.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I personally like the=
 kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;&gt; Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test =
Kit -<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Made in USA : Automotive<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Block-Teste=
r-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp=
;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7yd=
UAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY=
-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-Q=
oKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&=
amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=
=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-=
Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp;dib=3Dey=
J2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJoj=
ItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtU=
tQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-s=
AGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&amp;dib_t=
ag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=3D17673616=
65&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3</a>&gt;<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; You might be=
 able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; store.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Hope this helps<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; JVV<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; --=
----------------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *From:* Tri=
umphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of S=
ujit Roy<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphst=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:=
10 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *To:* Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *Subject:* [TR] Head=
 Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I see kits on Amazon priced an=
ywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&g=
t; engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Sujit=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; --<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Sujit Roy<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
&gt; Cupertino, California<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><di=
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From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2026 18:41:00 -0700

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I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original
commission number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.  :)

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8T=
ssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg

Don
Santa Fe
(TR3B TSF202L with original commission plate)

On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:

> I wouldn't worry about the rivets.  The inspecting officer won't have a
> clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.  And having a perfectly
> done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original on=
e
> so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It =
is
> a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other
> 2000s so the plate looks similar.
>
> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has
> numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one
> stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details.
> Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe
> after lunch.
>
> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I
> would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission
> plates and body numbers.
>
> Steve
>
> > On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM, [email-masked] wro=
te:
> > Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.  Of course, th=
e
> ?3? will be wrong.
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> https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/=
ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iy=
i1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92=
Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0A=
W4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDU=
hsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+test=
er+for+coolant&qid=3D1767361665&sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=
=3D8-3
> >> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test =
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I&#=
39;m with Dave -- there&#39;s no shame, or substitute, for an original comm=
ission number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.=C2=A0 :)</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a href=3D"https://photos.smug=
mug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-S=
qWXG5Z-X5.jpg">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B=
5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg</a></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-size:small">Don</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-size:small">Santa Fe</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-si=
ze:small">(TR3B TSF202L with original commission=C2=A0plate)</div></div><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">I wo=
uldn&#39;t worry about the rivets.=C2=A0 The inspecting officer won&#39;t h=
ave a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.=C2=A0 And having a p=
erfectly done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.</div><div><br>=
</div><div><div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-size-adjust:non=
e;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;=
font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div style=3D"color:black;font-styl=
e:normal;font-size-adjust:none;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-=
size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><div><=
font size=3D"4">Dave <br></font></div><div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;color:black"><br></span></div><br></div></div></div></=
div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"m_3883493905857412505ydp1cd93a62yahoo_quoted_77819=
46394"><div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px"=
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Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
               =20
                <div>
                        On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Step=
hen Oertwig &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">oertwi=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                    </div>
                </div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,=
Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42);border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:8px;margin:0px 0px 0px 8px">
                <div><br></div><div><br></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 est=
ate. At least attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to ge=
t the estate titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying=
 the different rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Then need to find new 2000 =
plate. The original commission plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure i=
t is because each worker was given one stamp of different sizes so there wa=
s no consistency in stamping details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; wa=
s commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here =
in country. Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all t=
he other commission plates and body numbers.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Steve<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM, <a href=3D"mailto:triumph=
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v dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I was told that there are now laser &quot;engravers&quot=
; who can do this<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; -------- Original message --------<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:notak=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)<br></=
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eer.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stampin=
g<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Used to be=
 able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.=C2=A0 Of course, the ?3? wil=
l be wrong.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Bill<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?=
=C2=A0 H. Ford<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ran=
teer.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote=
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<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks, I&#=
39;ll check them out.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
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=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I have experience wit=
h these type kits and they all work basically the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;&gt; same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a col=
or change.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; The multiple test claims rela=
te to the amount of fluid in the kit. You<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt=
; don&#39;t need to use much fluid for each test.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Having said this you can also=
 look for a blown head gasket by running the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
&gt; car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If w=
hen<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; it opens you only observe coolant fl=
owing you&#39;re good. If coolant gets<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; b=
lown out of the radiator instead of flowing that&#39;s a good indication of=
 a<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; head gasket issue.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I personally like the=
 kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2026 00:36:11 -0600

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I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or
re-using a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about
the rivets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is
my stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.
He reused the original plate.  The original plate is secured with sheet
metal screws.  He reused the original screws.

Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.  He even
brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the
screws.  So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.

I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and
riveted the plate on.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40=E2=80=AFPM dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrot=
e:

> I get that.   IMHO,  a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous
> restoration.  An original plate,  although original,  does not.
>
> I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.   No, it's not original,
> but it is beautiful
>
>
> From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
> Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked], Stephen Oertwig <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process
>
> https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB=
8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> =
wrote:
>> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original
>> one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri=
.
>> It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on
>> other 2000s so the plate looks similar.
>>
>> stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details=
.
>> > On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM, [email-masked] wr=
ote:
>> http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20260104/267d5f70/a=
ttachment-0001.htm
>> >     <[email-masked]=
m
>> >> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically th=
e
>> >> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. Yo=
u
>> >> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant get=
s
>> >> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this on=
e
>> >> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit =
-
>> >> Made in USA : Automotive
>> >> <
>> https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF=
/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28I=
yi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ9=
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AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThD=
Uhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tes=
ter+for+coolant&qid=3D1767361665&sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=
=3D8-3
>> >
>> >>
>> >> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto part=
s
>> >> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use=
.
>> http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20260103/bc1d21db/a=
ttachment-0001.htm
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]
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<div dir=3D"auto">I don&#39;t have real strong feeling one way or the other=
 on re-doing or re-using a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not=
 caring about the rivets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I=
 have left is my stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bu=
geye Sprite.=C2=A0 He reused the original plate.=C2=A0 The original plate i=
s secured with sheet metal screws.=C2=A0 He reused the original screws.<div=
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Anyway, DMV didn&#39;t like the s=
crews, said it had to be riveted.=C2=A0 He even brought the &quot;Complete =
Original&quot; book, which showed and mentioned the screws.=C2=A0 So the ca=
r with original parts is rejected at title inspection.</div><div dir=3D"aut=
o"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I don&#39;t remember how it ended, but I thi=
nk my pragmatic brother gave up and riveted the plate on.</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</=
div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"=
ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40=E2=80=AFPM dave northr=
up &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div>
I get that.=C2=A0 =C2=A0IMHO,=C2=A0 a beautiful plate complements a gorgeou=
s restoration.=C2=A0 An original plate,=C2=A0 although original,=C2=A0 does=
 not.
<div dir=3D"auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;m going to have my new plate laser engraved.=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0No, it&#39;s not original,=C2=A0 but it is beautiful=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) </div>
<div>To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I&#39;m with Dave --=
 there&#39;s no shame, or substitute, for an original commission number pla=
te irrespective of condition or attachment.=C2=A0 :)</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a href=3D"https://p=
hotos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4=
qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://photo=
s.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/=
X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg</a></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Don</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Santa Fe</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">(TR3B TSF202L with o=
riginal commission=C2=A0plate)</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15=E2=80=AFP=
M DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I wouldn&#39;t worry about the rivets.=C2=A0 The inspectin=
g officer won&#39;t have a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.=
=C2=A0 And having a perfectly done commission plate constitutes over-restor=
ation.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:12=
pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:12=
pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br>
</font></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><br>
</span></div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_-2915299948435810954m_3883493905857412505ydp1cd93a62yahoo_quot=
ed_7781946394">
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
<div>On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">oertwi=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
</div>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-s=
erif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42);border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:8px;margin:0px 0px 0px 8px">
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach =
the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled i=
n Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets=
 used on other 2000s so the plate
 looks similar.<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission =
plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was gi=
ven one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping de=
tails. Thought maybe it was a Friday
 car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country=
. Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other c=
ommission plates and body numbers.<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Steve<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=C2=A0 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave =
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=C2=A0 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit rec=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@rantee=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<b=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I was told that there are now laser &quot;engravers&q=
uot; who can do this<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:notakitcar@y=
ahoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)<br>
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com" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<b=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freig=
ht.=C2=A0 Of course, the ?3? will be wrong.<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Bill<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?=C2=A0 H. Ford<=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup &lt;<a href=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ?<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphstag@gma=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test ki=
t recommendations<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks, I&#39;ll check them out.<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" target=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Hi Sujit,<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I have experience with these type kits and they a=
ll work basically the<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and l=
ooking for a color change.<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; The multiple test claims relate to the amount of =
fluid in the kit. You<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; don&#39;t need to use much fluid for each test.<b=
r>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Having said this you can also look for a blown he=
ad gasket by running the<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; car at idle with the radiator cap off until the t=
hermostat opens. If when<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; it opens you only observe coolant flowing you&#39=
;re good. If coolant gets<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that=
&#39;s a good indication of a<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; head gasket issue.<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I personally like the kits with the tube and rubb=
er bulb like this one<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combu=
stion Leak Test Kit -<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Made in USA : Automotive<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Block-Teste=
r-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp=
;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7yd=
UAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY=
-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-Q=
oKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&=
amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=
=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3" rel=
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ter-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&a=
mp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7=
ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5=
zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g=
-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSl=
o&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=
=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3</a>&g=
t;<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; You might be able to purchase a similar kit from =
your local auto parts<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; store.<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Hope this helps<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; JVV<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *From:* Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-b=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *To:* Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@aut=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test =
kit recommendations<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up.=
 I dont plan to test my<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive k=
it folks like to use.<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Sujit<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; --<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Sujit Roy<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; -- <br>
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In the end it is all about the inspector.=C2=A0 If one guy rejects it you c=
an shop it around until you find someone who will not notice it.=C2=A0 And =
with our cars, it's not a big deal.=C2=A0 When you start talking six-figure=
 Jags or Aston-Martins=C2=A0 you get into the investor category and that's =
when you get investment advisors looking into this level of detail.=C2=A0 A=
nd especially so for cars with provenance - like Paul Newman's TR6 or Princ=
ess Grace's Rover P71.=C2=A0 These guys don't want to end up buying the Shi=
p of Theseus.
Dave=20

=20

    On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 12:46:14 AM CST, Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmai=
l.com> wrote:  =20

 I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-us=
ing a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the riv=
ets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stor=
ies). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.=C2=A0 He=
 reused the original plate.=C2=A0 The original plate is secured with sheet =
metal screws.=C2=A0 He reused the original screws.
Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.=C2=A0 He eve=
n brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the scre=
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                        On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 12:46:14 AM CST, Gre=
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mmission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets remi=
nded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stories). My=
 brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.&nbsp; He reused =
the original plate.&nbsp; The original plate is secured with sheet metal sc=
rews.&nbsp; He reused the original screws.<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v>Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.&nbsp; He e=
ven brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the sc=
rews.&nbsp; So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.=
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That reminds me of International Loadstar series trucks in the early =
sixties. The serial number plate was screwed to the driver's door and =
sometimes the GVW space was left blank. You may say that wasn't a very =
secure or permanent location but the serial number was also stamped onto =
the left frame rail, just below where the steering box was bolted on. =
Internationals were real component trucks (like most medium duty trucks) =
with just about everything sourced from outside manufacturers. Unless =
you had a copy of the line settting ticket, it could be a challenge to =
figure out what parts to select when doing a major repair.

=20

Alex Thomson

'73 TR6 and lots of farm equipment=20

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2026 1:36 AM
To: Triumph List <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process

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I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or =
re-using a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about =
the rivets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left =
is my stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye =
Sprite.  He reused the original plate.  The original plate is secured =
with sheet metal screws.  He reused the original screws.

=20

Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.  He even =
brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the =
screws.  So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.

=20

I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up =
and riveted the plate on.

=20

Greg Lemon

TR250

=20

On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40=E2=80=AFPM dave northrup <[email-masked] =

I get that.   IMHO,  a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous =
restoration.  An original plate,  although original,  does not.=20

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I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.   No, it's not original,  =
but it is beautiful=20

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Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00)=20

Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process=20

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I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original =
commission number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.  :)

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Don

Santa Fe

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On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked] =

I wouldn't worry about the rivets.  The inspecting officer won't have a =
clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.  And having a perfectly =
done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.

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Dave=20

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On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig =

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I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original =
one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in =
Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different =
rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.

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Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has =
numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one =
stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping =
details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a =
Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.=20

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Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I =
would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission =
plates and body numbers.

=20

Steve

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> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.  Of course, =
the ?3? will be wrong.

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> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <[email-masked] =

>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically =
the

>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color =
change.

>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. =
You

>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running =
the

>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If =
when

>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant =
gets

>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication =
of a

>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this =
one

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>> =
<https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF=
/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM2=
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VoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76=
JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9=
KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dcombusti=
on+gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=3D1767361665&sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Cap=
s%2C3537&sr=3D8-3>

>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto =
parts

>> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked] =

>> *To:* Triumphs <[email-masked] =

my

>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to =
use.

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>That reminds me of International Loadstar series trucks in the early =
sixties. The serial number plate was screwed to the driver's door and =
sometimes the GVW space was left blank. You may say that wasn't a very =
secure or permanent location but the serial number was also stamped onto =
the left frame rail, just below where the steering box was bolted on. =
Internationals were real component trucks (like most medium duty trucks) =
with just about everything sourced from outside manufacturers. Unless =
you had a copy of the line settting ticket, it could be a challenge to =
figure out what parts to select when doing a major =
repair.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
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style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Alex Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>'73 TR6 and lots of farm equipment <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
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#E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
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Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 6, 2026 1:36 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Triumph List =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Redoing the =
whole commission plate process<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I don't =
have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using a =
commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets =
reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my =
stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye =
Sprite.&nbsp; He reused the original plate.&nbsp; The original plate is =
secured with sheet metal screws.&nbsp; He reused the original =
screws.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be =
riveted.&nbsp; He even brought the &quot;Complete Original&quot; book, =
which showed and mentioned the screws.&nbsp; So the car with original =
parts is rejected at title inspection.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up =
and riveted the plate on.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Greg Lemon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>TR250<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM dave =
northrup &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
get that.&nbsp; &nbsp;IMHO,&nbsp; a beautiful plate complements a =
gorgeous restoration.&nbsp; An original plate,&nbsp; although =
original,&nbsp; does not. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.&nbsp; =
&nbsp;No, it's not original,&nbsp; but it is =
beautiful&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>-------- Original message =
--------<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>From: Don Hiscock =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM =
(GMT-08:00) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>To: DAVID =
MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate =
process <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for =
an original commission number plate irrespective of condition or =
attachment.&nbsp; :)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBg=
NJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9=
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div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Don<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Santa Fe<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>(TR3B TSF202L with original =
commission&nbsp;plate)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I =
wouldn't worry about the rivets.&nbsp; The inspecting officer won't have =
a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.&nbsp; And having a =
perfectly done commission plate constitutes =
over-restoration.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></s=
pan></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></di=
v></div><div =
id=3D"m_-2915299948435810954m_3883493905857412505ydp1cd93a62yahoo_quoted_=
7781946394"><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the =
original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in =
Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different =
rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks =
similar.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has =
numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one =
stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping =
details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a =
Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'>Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure =
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A'>&gt;&nbsp; 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&nbsp; 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit =
recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Sujit =
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A'>&gt; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 =
+0000<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; From: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; To: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, &quot;<a =
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A'>&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and =
stamping<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a =
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p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; I was told that there are now laser &quot;engravers&quot; who =
can do this<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; -------- Original message =
--------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; From: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM =
(GMT-08:00)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; To: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and =
stamping<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.&nbsp; =
Of course, the ?3? will be wrong.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt; Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?&nbsp; H. =
Ford<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; Who is the go to person for a 58 =
TR3a?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; From: Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; To: Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
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A'>&gt; Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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A'>&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit =
recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt; Message-ID:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
mail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw@mai=
l.gmail.com</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt; Thanks, I'll check them out.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt;&gt; Hi Sujit,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt;&gt; I have experience with these type kits and they all work =
basically the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt;&gt; same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for =
a color change.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt;&gt; The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in =
the kit. You<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; don't need to use much fluid for each =
test.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket =
by running the<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat =
opens. If when<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If =
coolant gets<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good =
indication of a<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; head gasket issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb =
like this one<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak =
Test Kit -<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; Made in USA : Automotive<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06=
VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3ww=
U3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBk=
sGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbM=
W1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;=
keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=3D1767361665&amp;spr=
efix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-L=
eak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9=
.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcso=
WSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlN=
eZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUE=
aRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&amp;dib_tag=
=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=3D17673616=
65&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3</a>&gt;<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local =
auto parts<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; store.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; Hope this helps<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; JVV<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; =
------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt;&gt; *From:* Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of =
Sujit Roy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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A'>&gt;&gt; *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 =
PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; *To:* Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit =
recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont =
plan to test my<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks =
like to use.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; Sujit<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; --<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; Sujit Roy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; Cupertino, California<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><o:p></o:p></=
span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
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From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2026 07:33:02 -0800 (PST)

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I used the original tag.  Cleaned it up as much as I could.  Modified, turn=
ed down, wide diameter rivets to look like the originals.  Then cut short l=
engths of the rivet shaft and glued them in place.  Photo attached.
Dave H.
=20

> On 01/05/2026 10:36 PM PST Greg Lemon <[email-masked]> wrote:
> =20
> =20
> I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-u=
sing a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the ri=
vets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my sto=
ries). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.  He reu=
sed the original plate.  The original plate is secured with sheet metal scr=
ews.  He reused the original screws.
> =20
> Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.  He even b=
rought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the screws.=
  So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.
> =20
> I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up a=
nd riveted the plate on.
> =20
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>=20
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40=E2=80=AFPM dave northrup <[email-masked] mai=
lto:[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> > I get that.   IMHO,  a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous restorati=
on.  An original plate,  although original,  does not.
> > =20
> > I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.   No, it's not original,=
  but it is beautiful=20
> > From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]>
> > To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]>
> > Cc: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked], Stephen Oer=
twig <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]>
> > I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original commi=
ssion number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.  :)
> > =20
> > https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXP=
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> > On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]=
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> >=20
> > > I wouldn't worry about the rivets.  The inspecting officer won't have=
 a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.  And having a perfectly=
 done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.
> > > =20
> > > Dave
> > > =20
> > > =20
> > > =20
> > > On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig <oertw=
[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]> wrote:
> > > =20
> > > =20
> > > I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the origina=
l one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri.=
 It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on ot=
her 2000s so the plate looks similar.
> > > =20
> > > Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has n=
umbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one sta=
mp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thou=
ght maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after l=
unch.
> > > =20
> > > Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure =
I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission p=
lates and body numbers.
> > > =20
> > > Steve
> > > =20
> > > > On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM, [email-masked]=
 mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
> > > >     [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
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am.net/mailman/listinfo/triumphs
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eam.net
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net
> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------=
---
> > > > From: dave northrup <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]>
> > > > To: bill beecher <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]>=
, "[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]"
> > > >     <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]>
> > > > Message-ID: <[email-masked] mailto:1a=
[email-masked]>
> > > > From: bill beecher <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]=
m>
> > > > To: dave northrup <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]>
> > > > Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.  Of course=
, the ?3? will be wrong.
> > > > On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <[email-masked] mailto:=
[email-masked]> wrote:
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> > > > URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20260104=
/267d5f70/attachment-0001.htm>
> > > > From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]=
>
> > > > To: Jerry Van Vlack <[email-masked] mailto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail=
.com>
> > > > Cc: Triumphs <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]=
t>
> > > > Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendati=
ons
> > > > Message-ID:
> > > >     <[email-masked]=
.com mailto:[email-masked].=
com>
> > > > On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <[email-masked]=
om mailto:[email-masked]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Sujit,
> > > >>
> > > >> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically=
 the
> > > >> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a colo=
r change.
> > > >> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit.=
 You
> > > >> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by runn=
ing the
> > > >> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. =
If when
gets
> > > >> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indicat=
ion of a
> > > >> head gasket issue.
> > > >>
> > > >> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this=
 one
> > > >> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test K=
it -
> > > >> Made in USA : Automotive
> > > >> <https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06=
VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy=
7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMI=
Y8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo7=
6JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9K=
SQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dcombustion+=
gas+tester+for+coolant&qid=3D1767361665&sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3=
537&sr=3D8-3>
> > > >>
> > > >> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto p=
arts
> > > >> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked] mailto:triumphs-=
[email-masked]> on behalf of Sujit Roy
> > > >> <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]>
> > > >> *To:* Triumphs <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]=
.net>
> > > >> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendatio=
ns
> > > >>
> > > >> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to t=
est my
use.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sujit
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Sujit Roy
> > > >> Cupertino, California
> > > >>
> > > >> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/ https://triumphstagblog.wor=
dpress.com/
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Sujit Roy
> > > > Cupertino, California
> > > >
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olor: #333333;"> <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I=
 used the original tag.&nbsp; Cleaned it up as much as I could.&nbsp; Modif=
ied, turned down, wide diameter rivets to look like the originals.&nbsp; Th=
en cut short lengths of the rivet shaft and glued them in place.&nbsp; Phot=
o attached.</span>=20
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tica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"> <span style=3D"font-family: helvet=
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     I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or r=
e-using a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the=
 rivets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my =
stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.&nbsp=
; He reused the original plate.&nbsp; The original plate is secured with sh=
eet metal screws.&nbsp; He reused the original screws.=20
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      Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.&nbsp; =
He even brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned th=
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      I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave =
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       I get that.&nbsp; &nbsp;IMHO,&nbsp; a beautiful plate complements a =
gorgeous restoration.&nbsp; An original plate,&nbsp; although original,&nbs=
p; does not.=20
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        I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.&nbsp; &nbsp;No, it's=
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        Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]<=
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        Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process=20
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              I wouldn't worry about the rivets.&nbsp; The inspecting offic=
er won't have a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.&nbsp; And =
having a perfectly done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.=20
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                I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach t=
he original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in=
 Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets =
used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.=20
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                Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission p=
late has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was giv=
en one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping det=
ails. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. May=
be after lunch.=20
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                Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country.=
 Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other co=
mmission plates and body numbers.=20
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                &gt; From: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer=
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                &gt;&gt; I have experience with these type kits and they al=
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                &gt;&gt; same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and lo=
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                &gt;&gt; The multiple test claims relate to the amount of f=
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                &gt;&gt; don't need to use much fluid for each test.=20
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                &gt;&gt; I personally like the kits with the tube and rubbe=
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                &gt;&gt; Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combus=
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                &gt;&gt; Made in USA : Automotive=20
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dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydU=
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1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Com=
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2026 17:44:44 +0000 (UTC)

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 give me a few days.i did get a run of original rivits made.ill see if i ca=
n have a new run made and how much it may cost.they were quite reasonable a=
s i recall
Frank

    On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 10:48:21 PM PST, Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail=
.com> wrote: =20
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I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and=
Greg LemonTR250

I get that.=C2=A0 =C2=A0IMHO,=C2=A0 a beautiful plate complements a gorgeou=
s restoration.=C2=A0 An original plate,=C2=A0 although original,=C2=A0 does=
 not.
I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.=C2=A0 =C2=A0No, it's not ori=
ginal,=C2=A0 but it is beautiful=C2=A0

-------- Original message --------From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>=
 Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> Cc:=
 [email-masked], Stephen Oertwig <[email-masked]> Subject: Re: [T=
R] Redoing the whole commission plate process=20
I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original commissio=
n number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.=C2=A0 :)
https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8T=
ssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg
DonSanta Fe(TR3B TSF202L with original commission=C2=A0plate)
On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:

On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig <oertwig@mac=
.com> wrote:

I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one =
so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is=
 a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 20=
00s so the plate looks similar.

Steve

 the ?3? will be wrong.
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpeacd9c9ayahoo-style-wrap" style=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">give me a few days.</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">i did get a run of original rivits made=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">ill see if i can have a new r=
un made and how much it may cost.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fals=
e">they were quite reasonable as i recall</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Frank</div><div=
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                        On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 10:48:21 PM PST, Greg=
 Lemon &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671"><div><div>I don't=
 have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using a co=
mmission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets remi=
nded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stories). My=
 brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.&nbsp; He reused =
the original plate.&nbsp; The original plate is secured with sheet metal sc=
rews.&nbsp; He reused the original screws.<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v>Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.&nbsp; He e=
ven brought the "Complete Original" book, which showed and mentioned the sc=
rews.&nbsp; So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspection.=
</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I don't remember how it ended, but=
 I think my pragmatic brother gave up and riveted the plate on.</div><div><=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Greg Lemon</div><div>TR250</div></div><br clea=
r=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_quote ydp4a29f8b9yiv=
5076023671gmail_quote_container"><div id=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671yqt4894=
9" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671yqt8801919366"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40=E2=80=AF=
PM dave northrup &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_quote">

<div>
I get that.&nbsp; &nbsp;IMHO,&nbsp; a beautiful plate complements a gorgeou=
s restoration.&nbsp; An original plate,&nbsp; although original,&nbsp; does=
 not.
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.&nbsp; &nbsp;No, it's no=
t original,&nbsp; but it is beautiful&nbsp;</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: Don Hiscock &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gma=
il.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </=
div>
<div>Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) </div>
<div>To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Cc: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"n=
ofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>, Stephen Oertwig &lt=
;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult">I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original comm=
ission number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.&nbsp; :)</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/=
0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg" rel=3D"nof=
ollow" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7Z=
NSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg</a></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult">Don</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult">Santa Fe</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_defa=
ult">(TR3B TSF202L with original commission&nbsp;plate)</div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 5=
, 2026 at 6:15=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_quote">
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<div style=3D"font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I wouldn't worry about the rivets.&nbsp; The inspecting of=
ficer won't have a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.&nbsp; A=
nd having a perfectly done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.</=
div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>
<div style=3D"color:black;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-size:12=
pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
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pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div><font size=3D"4">Dave <br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>
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505ydp1cd93a62yahoo_quoted_7781946394">
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:rgb(38,40,42);">
<div>On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color=
:rgb(38,40,42);border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:8px;marg=
in:0px 0px 0px 8px;">
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<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach =
the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled i=
n Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets=
 used on other 2000s so the plate
 looks similar.<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission =
plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was gi=
ven one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping de=
tails. Thought maybe it was a Friday
 car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. <br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country=
. Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other c=
ommission plates and body numbers.<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Steve<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who c=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks, I'll check them out.<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a=
 shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Hi Sujit,<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I have experience with these type kits and they a=
ll work basically the<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and l=
ooking for a color change.<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; The multiple test claims relate to the amount of =
fluid in the kit. You<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; don't need to use much fluid for each test.<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Having said this you can also look for a blown he=
ad gasket by running the<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; car at idle with the radiator cap off until the t=
hermostat opens. If when<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're =
good. If coolant gets<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that=
's a good indication of a<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; head gasket issue.<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I personally like the kits with the tube and rubb=
er bulb like this one<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combu=
stion Leak Test Kit -<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Made in USA : Automotive<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.amazon.=
com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB=
5BELSHHE2V2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6Vozhu=
ZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAm=
EZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3=
CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYL=
qEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+co=
olant&amp;qid=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;s=
r=3D8-3" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Te=
ster-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&=
amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY=
7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm=
5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4=
g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGS=
lo&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qi=
d=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3</a>&=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; You might be able to purchase a similar kit from =
your local auto parts<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; store.<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Hope this helps<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; JVV<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; *From:* Triumphs &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tr=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up.=
 I dont plan to test my<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive k=
it folks like to use.<br clear=3D"none">
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On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 8:22=E2=80=AFAM Alex&Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@char=
ter.net>
wrote:

> That reminds me of International Loadstar series trucks in the early
> sixties. The serial number plate was screwed to the driver's door and
> sometimes the GVW space was left blank. You may say that wasn't a very
> secure or permanent location but the serial number was also stamped onto
> the left frame rail, just below where the steering box was bolted on.
> Internationals were real component trucks (like most medium duty trucks)
> with just about everything sourced from outside manufacturers. Unless you
> had a copy of the line settting ticket, it could be a challenge to figure
> out what parts to select when doing a major repair.
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
> '73 TR6 and lots of farm equipment
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *Greg
> Lemon
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 6, 2026 1:36 AM
> *To:* Triumph List <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process
>
>
>
> the rivets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left i=
s
> I don't remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40=E2=80=AFPM dave northrup <[email-masked]> wr=
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<div><div style=3D"font-size:inherit"><a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/s=
hare/19ytP2WKwo/" style=3D"font-size:inherit">https://www.facebook.com/shar=
e/19ytP2WKwo/</a></div><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_q=
uote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 a=
t 8:22=E2=80=AFAM Alex&amp;Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@=
charter.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=
=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D"m_-1662076748473478487WordSection1"=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;C=
alibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">That reminds me of International Loa=
dstar series trucks in the early sixties. The serial number plate was screw=
ed to the driver&#39;s door and sometimes the GVW space was left blank. You=
 may say that wasn&#39;t a very secure or permanent location but the serial=
 number was also stamped onto the left frame rail, just below where the ste=
ering box was bolted on. Internationals were real component trucks (like mo=
st medium duty trucks) with just about everything sourced from outside manu=
facturers. Unless you had a copy of the line settting ticket, it could be a=
 challenge to figure out what parts to select when doing a major repair.<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0p=
t;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Alex Thomson<u></u><u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font=
-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">&#39;73 TR6 and lots =
of farm equipment <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div lang=3D"EN-US" =
link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><div class=3D=
"m_-1662076748473478487WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #=
e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</s=
pan></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,san=
s-serif"> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </=
b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 6, 2026 1:36 AM<br><b>To:</b>=
 Triumph List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Redoing the=
 whole commission plate process<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don&#39;t h=
ave real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using a comm=
ission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets remind=
ed me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stories). My b=
rother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.=C2=A0 He reused th=
e original plate.=C2=A0 The original plate is secured with sheet metal scre=
ws.=C2=A0 He reused the original screws.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Anyway=
, DMV didn&#39;t like the screws, said it had to be riveted.=C2=A0 He even =
brought the &quot;Complete Original&quot; book, which showed and mentioned =
the screws.=C2=A0 So the car with original parts is rejected at title inspe=
ction.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u><=
/u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I don&#39;t remember how it ended,=
 but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and riveted the plate on.<u></u><=
u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg Lemon<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">TR250<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026,=
 11:40<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</s=
pan>PM dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote styl=
e=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;=
margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I get that.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0IMHO,=C2=A0 a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous restorati=
on.=C2=A0 An original plate,=C2=A0 although original,=C2=A0 does not. <u></=
u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;m going to have my new plate laser engraved.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0No, it&#39;s not original,=C2=A0 but it is beautiful=C2=A0<u><=
/u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">-------- Original message --------<u></u><u></u></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal">From: Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:don.hisco=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <u></u><u></u=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) <u>=
</u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cc: <a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>, S=
tephen Oertwig &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">oer=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Su=
bject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process <u></u><u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#39;m with Dave -- there&#39;s no shame, or =
substitute, for an original commission number plate irrespective of conditi=
on or attachment.=C2=A0 :)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"htt=
ps://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssR=
wFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com=
/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-=
X5.jpg</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Don<u></u><u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Santa Fe<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">(TR3B TSF202L with original commission=C2=A0plate)<u></u><u></u><=
/p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15<span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>PM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:so=
lid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:=
0in"><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">I wouldn&#39;t worry about the rivets.=C2=A0 =
The inspecting officer won&#39;t have a clue as to what rivets are supposed=
 to be there.=C2=A0 And having a perfectly done commission plate constitute=
s over-restoration.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"=
>Dave </span><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:=
black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div=
></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div><div id=3D"m_-16620767484734784=
87m_-2915299948435810954m_3883493905857412505ydp1cd93a62yahoo_quoted_778194=
6394"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">On Monday, Jan=
uary 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:oert=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: <u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div></div><div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc=
 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 =
estate. At least attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to=
 get the estate titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been study=
ing the different rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has n=
umbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one sta=
mp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thou=
ght maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after l=
unch. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#2=
6282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;c=
olor:#26282a">Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. N=
ot sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other comm=
ission plates and body numbers.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">Steve<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>=
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quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helv=
etica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;=C2=A0 1. Re: new commission plat=
e and stamping (dave northrup)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;=C2=A0 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Le=
ak test kit recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot=
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 <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
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">&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------------=
--<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282=
a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:=
#26282a">&gt; Message: 1<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,s=
ans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000<u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Fro=
m: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,s=
ans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; To: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:notaki=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, &quot;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
.net</a>&quot;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:#26282a">&gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Subject: =
Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">1a67=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Content-Type: text/pl=
ain; charset=3D&quot;utf-8&quot;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica=
&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Hel=
vetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; I was told that there are now l=
aser &quot;engravers&quot; who can do this<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; -------- Origin=
al message --------<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-s=
erif;color:#26282a">&gt; From: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:notakitca=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></=
span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Date: 1/3/=
26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,san=
s-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; To: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ra=
nteer.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR=
] new commission plate and stamping<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvet=
ica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Used to be able to get the s=
tamp sets at Harbor Freight.=C2=A0 Of course, the ?3? will be wrong.<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; B=
ill<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;col=
or:#26282a">&gt; ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?=C2=A0 H. Ford<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; =
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a"=
>&gt; On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@=
ranteer.com" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
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><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-ser=
if;color:#26282a">&gt; Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800<u></u><u></u></=
span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; From: Suji=
t Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triump=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; To: Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jerr=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Cc:=
 Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combusti=
on Leak test kit recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica=
&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Message-ID:<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw@ma=
il.gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAO=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D&q=
uot;utf-8&quot;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif=
;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Thanks, I&#39;ll check them out.<u></u><u></u></=
span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; On F=
ri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jerryvvtr4=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; wrote:<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&g=
t; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">&gt;&gt; Hi Sujit,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,s=
ans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helveti=
ca&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; I have experience with these ty=
pe kits and they all work basically the<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; same by pulling gases up t=
hru testing fluid and looking for a color change.<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; The multiple tes=
t claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; don&#39;t n=
eed to use much fluid for each test.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helve=
tica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Having said this yo=
u can also look for a blown head gasket by running the<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; car at idle=
 with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; it =
opens you only observe coolant flowing you&#39;re good. If coolant gets<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt=
;&gt; blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that&#39;s a good indica=
tion of a<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color=
:#26282a">&gt;&gt; head gasket issue.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helv=
etica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; I personally like =
the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one<u></u><u></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Amazon.com: B=
lock Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Made in =
USA : Automotive<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-seri=
f;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Block-Teste=
r-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp=
;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7yd=
UAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY=
-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-Q=
oKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&=
amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=
=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp=
/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3=
wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBk=
sGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-=
RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zm=
zhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywor=
ds=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DC=
ombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; You mig=
ht be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts<u></u><u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; st=
ore.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif=
;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Hope this helps<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; JVV<u></u><u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; --=
----------------------------<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quo=
t;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; *From:* Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Sujit Roy<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tri=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><=
u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt=
; *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; *To:* Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;=
color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test ki=
t recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-ser=
if;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot=
;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere f=
rom 20$ up. I dont plan to test my<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helveti=
ca&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; engine 50-100 times. What is a =
good inexpensive kit folks like to use.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Sujit<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <=
u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">=
&gt;&gt; --<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;col=
or:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Sujit Roy<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Cupertino, California<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&g=
t;&gt; <a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" target=3D"_blank"=
>https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; =
-- <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">&gt; Sujit Roy<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-=
serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Cupertino, California<u></u><u></u></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
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>OOHH! I see lot's of not-so-standard Regular Production Options! Very =
neat looking!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
>Alex T.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
#E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Paul Dorsey &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January =
6, 2026 3:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> Alex&amp;Janet Thomson =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Greg Lemon =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Triumph List =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] LOOK. At. =
THIS.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/share/19ytP2WKwo/">https://www.facebook.=
com/share/19ytP2WKwo/</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 8:22<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>AM =
Alex&amp;Janet Thomson &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
repair.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Alex Thomson</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>'73 TR6 and lots of farm equipment =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid =
#E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf =
Of </b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 6, 2026 1:36 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Triumph List &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[TR] Redoing the whole commission plate =
process</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I don't =
have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using a =
commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets =
reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my =
stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye =
Sprite.&nbsp; He reused the original plate.&nbsp; The original plate is =
secured with sheet metal screws.&nbsp; He reused the original =
screws.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Anyway, DMV =
didn't like the screws, said it had to be riveted.&nbsp; He even brought =
the &quot;Complete Original&quot; book, which showed and mentioned the =
screws.&nbsp; So the car with original parts is rejected at title =
inspection.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I don't =
remember how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and =
riveted the plate on.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Greg =
Lemon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>TR250<o:p></=
o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Jan =
5, 2026, 11:40<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM dave =
northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I get =
that.&nbsp; &nbsp;IMHO,&nbsp; a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous =
restoration.&nbsp; An original plate,&nbsp; although original,&nbsp; =
does not. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I'm going =
to have my new plate laser engraved.&nbsp; &nbsp;No, it's not =
original,&nbsp; but it is beautiful&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>-------- =
Original message --------<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>From: Don =
Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Date: =
1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>To: DAVID =
MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Subject: =
Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I'm with =
Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original commission =
number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.&nbsp; =
:)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a =
href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBg=
NJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg" =
target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9=
vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></p></=
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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Don<o:p></o:=
p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Santa =
Fe<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(TR3B =
TSF202L with original =
commission&nbsp;plate)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Jan =
5, 2026 at 6:15<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I wouldn't worry about the =
rivets.&nbsp; The inspecting officer won't have a clue as to what rivets =
are supposed to be there.&nbsp; And having a perfectly done commission =
plate constitutes over-restoration.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></=
o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></=
o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v></div><div =
id=3D"m_-1662076748473478487m_-2915299948435810954m_3883493905857412505yd=
p1cd93a62yahoo_quoted_7781946394"><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: =
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the =
original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in =
Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different =
rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks =
similar.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has =
numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one =
stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping =
details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a =
Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure =
I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other =
commission plates and body numbers.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; Today's Topics:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&nbsp; 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave =
northrup)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&nbsp; 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit =
recommendations</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (Sujit =
Roy)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; =
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pan><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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A'>&gt; Message: 1</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 =
+0000</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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A'>&gt; From: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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A'>&gt; To: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, &quot;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&quot;</span><o:p></o:p></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p></=
div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and =
stamping</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; =
charset=3D&quot;utf-8&quot;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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A'>&gt; I was told that there are now laser &quot;engravers&quot; who =
can do this</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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A'>&gt; -------- Original message =
--------</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; From: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM =
(GMT-08:00)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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A'>&gt; To: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and =
stamping</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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A'>&gt; Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.&nbsp; =
Of course, the ?3? will be wrong.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt; Bill</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt; ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?&nbsp; H. =
Ford</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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A'>&gt; Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 =
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A'>&gt; From: Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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A'>&gt; To: Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
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A'>&gt; Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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A'>&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit =
recommendations</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; Message-ID:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a =
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mail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw@mai=
l.gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; Thanks, I'll check them out.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; Hi Sujit,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt;&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; I have experience with these type kits and they all work =
basically the</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for =
a color change.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in =
the kit. You</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; don't need to use much fluid for each =
test.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket =
by running the</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat =
opens. If when</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If =
coolant gets</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good =
indication of a</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; head gasket issue.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt;&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb =
like this one</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak =
Test Kit -</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; Made in USA : Automotive</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06=
VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3ww=
U3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBk=
sGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbM=
W1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;=
keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=3D1767361665&amp;spr=
efix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-L=
eak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9=
.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcso=
WSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlN=
eZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUE=
aRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&amp;dib_tag=
=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=3D17673616=
65&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3</a>&gt;</span>=
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A'>&gt;&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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A'>&gt;&gt; You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local =
auto parts</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; store.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; Hope this helps</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
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A'>&gt;&gt; </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; JVV</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>&gt;&gt; =
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A'>&gt;&gt; *From:* Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of =
Sujit Roy</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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A'>&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
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A'>&gt;&gt; *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 =
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A'>&gt;&gt; *To:* Triumphs &lt;<a =
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A'>&gt;&gt; *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit =
recommendations</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
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 Paul how good to see you emailing again.what did you ever do with your TR?
and im not sure i like the volvo as modified, but id sure like to drive it =
one time

Frank Fisher

    On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 01:04:42 PM PST, Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@g=
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ter.net> wrote:

That reminds me of International Loadstar series trucks in the early sixtie=
s. The serial number plate was screwed to the driver's door and sometimes t=
he GVW space was left blank. You may say that wasn't a very secure or perma=
nent location but the serial number was also stamped onto the left frame ra=
il, just below where the steering box was bolted on. Internationals were re=
al component trucks (like most medium duty trucks) with just about everythi=
ng sourced from outside manufacturers. Unless you had a copy of the line se=
ttting ticket, it could be a challenge to figure out what parts to select w=
hen doing a major repair.

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Alex Thomson

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I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-usi=
ng a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rive=
ts reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stori=
es). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.=C2=A0 He =
reused the original plate.=C2=A0 The original plate is secured with sheet m=
etal screws.=C2=A0 He reused the original screws.

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Greg Lemon

TR250

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Paul how good to see you ema=
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do with your TR?</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div=
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n Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 8:22=E2=80=AFAM Alex&amp;Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">aljltho=
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54MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#=
1f497d;">That reminds me of International Loadstar series trucks in the ear=
ly sixties. The serial number plate was screwed to the driver's door and so=
metimes the GVW space was left blank. You may say that wasn't a very secure=
 or permanent location but the serial number was also stamped onto the left=
 frame rail, just below where the steering box was bolted on. International=
s were real component trucks (like most medium duty trucks) with just about=
 everything sourced from outside manufacturers. Unless you had a copy of th=
e line settting ticket, it could be a challenge to figure out what parts to=
 select when doing a major repair.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"ydpf=
ae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;color:#1f497d;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"ydpfa=
e13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:s=
ans-serif;color:#1f497d;">Alex Thomson<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">'73 TR6 and lots of farm equipment <u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div></div><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"ydpfae13685yi=
v3667577654m_-1662076748473478487WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv36=
67577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;c=
olor:#1f497d;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><div style=3D"border:none;bor=
der-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ydpfae1=
3685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sa=
ns-serif;"> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 6, 2026 1:=
36 AM<br><b>To:</b> Triumph List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process<u></u><=
u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><u></=
u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">I do=
n't have real strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using a=
 commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets r=
eminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stories).=
 My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.&nbsp; He reus=
ed the original plate.&nbsp; The original plate is secured with sheet metal=
 screws.&nbsp; He reused the original screws.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p clas=
s=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">Anyway, DMV didn't like the =
screws, said it had to be riveted.&nbsp; He even brought the "Complete Orig=
inal" book, which showed and mentioned the screws.&nbsp; So the car with or=
iginal parts is rejected at title inspection.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">I don't remember how i=
t ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and riveted the plate on.=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"=
><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654Mso=
Normal">Greg Lemon<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv36=
67577654MsoNormal">TR250<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"ydpfae136=
85yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"ydp=
fae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40<span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;">=E2=80=AF</span>PM dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border=
-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margi=
n-right:0in;"><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">I get tha=
t.&nbsp; &nbsp;IMHO,&nbsp; a beautiful plate complements a gorgeous restora=
tion.&nbsp; An original plate,&nbsp; although original,&nbsp; does not. <u>=
</u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><u></u>&=
nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">I=
'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.&nbsp; &nbsp;No, it's not orig=
inal,&nbsp; but it is beautiful&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">-------- Original mess=
age --------<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv36675776=
54MsoNormal">From: Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <u></u><u=
></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">Date: 1/=
5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae136=
85yiv3667577654MsoNormal">To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1masse=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <u>=
</u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">Cc=
: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:oer=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <u=
></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">S=
ubject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process <u></u><u></u><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<=
u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNorma=
l">I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitute, for an original commis=
sion number plate irrespective of condition or attachment.&nbsp; :)<u></u><=
u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><u></u>=
&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">=
<a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkB=
gNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpX=
PjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">Don<u></u><u></u></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">Santa Fe<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">(TR3B TSF202L=
 with original commission&nbsp;plate)<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=
=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><div><div><p=
 class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15<sp=
an style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;">=E2=80=AF</span>PM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dave=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"b=
order:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin=
-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685y=
iv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;">I wouldn't w=
orry about the rivets.&nbsp; The inspecting officer won't have a clue as to=
 what rivets are supposed to be there.&nbsp; And having a perfectly done co=
mmission plate constitutes over-restoration.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><=
p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:13.5=
pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Dave </span><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:black;"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-seri=
f;color:black;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"ydpfae1368=
5yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;color:black;=
"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"y=
dpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;"><=
u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv36675776=
54MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></=
span></p></div></div><div id=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654m_-1662076748473478=
487m_-2915299948435810954m_3883493905857412505ydp1cd93a62yahoo_quoted_77819=
46394"><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">On Monday,=
 January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div style=3D"border:none;bord=
er-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;"><=
div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></=
u></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">I n=
eed to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one so =
sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is a =
long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 2000s=
 so the plate looks similar.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">Then need to find new 2000 plate.=
 The original commission plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is b=
ecause each worker was given one stamp of different sizes so there was no c=
onsistency in stamping details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was comm=
issioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">Would be hard to fi=
nd a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I would like something th=
at perfect after seeing all the other commission plates and body numbers.<u=
></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;=
"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv36675=
77654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;colo=
r:#26282a;">Steve<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae1368=
5yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-s=
erif;color:#26282a;"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
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"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&nbsp; 1. Re: =
new commission plate and stamping (dave northrup)<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&nbsp; 2. Re: Head=
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3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif=
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n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; Dat=
e: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; From: dave northrup &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dave@rantee=
r.com</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv=
3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif=
;color:#26282a;">&gt; To: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:notakitcar@yah=
oo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, "<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank=
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=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfa=
e13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:s=
ans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and s=
tamping<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv366757=
7654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color=
:#26282a;">&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">1a67faca0d794e059a2=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=
=3D"utf-8"<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv366=
7577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;co=
lor:#26282a;">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13=
685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans=
-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; I was told that there are now laser "engravers"=
 who can do this<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685=
yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-se=
rif;color:#26282a;">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yd=
pfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; -------- Original message ------=
--<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#262=
82a;">&gt; From: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" r=
el=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; Date=
: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; To: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv366757765=
4MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#2=
6282a;">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; <u=
></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;=
">&gt; Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.&nbsp; Of co=
urse, the ?3? will be wrong.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; Bill<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; ?The harder I wo=
rk, the luckier I get?&nbsp; H. Ford<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:=
44?PM, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; <u></u><u></u>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; ?<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">=
&gt; Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
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:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; ** <a href=3D"mailto:tr=
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e13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:s=
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654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:=
#26282a;">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685y=
iv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-ser=
if;color:#26282a;">&gt; ------------------------------<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; <u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; M=
essage: 2<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667=
577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;col=
or:#26282a;">&gt; Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; From: Suji=
t Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; To: Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685=
yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-se=
rif;color:#26282a;">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test=
 kit recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae1=
3685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:san=
s-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; Message-ID:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
il.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVy=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain=
; charset=3D"utf-8"<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13=
685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans=
-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; Thanks, I'll check them out.<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; <=
u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a=
;">&gt; On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">jerryvvtr4a@gma=
il.com</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yi=
v3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-seri=
f;color:#26282a;">&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; Hi Sujit,<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; =
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282=
a;">&gt;&gt; I have experience with these type kits and they all work basic=
ally the<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv36675=
77654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;colo=
r:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and lookin=
g for a color change.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae=
13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sa=
ns-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; The multiple test claims relate to the am=
ount of fluid in the kit. You<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; don't need to use much fluid fo=
r each test.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3=
667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;=
color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yd=
pfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; Having said this you can also look fo=
r a blown head gasket by running the<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; car at idle with the radia=
tor cap off until the thermostat opens. If when<u></u><u></u></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; it opens you on=
ly observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets<u></u><u></u></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; blown =
out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of a<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt=
;&gt; head gasket issue.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp=
fae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; I personally like the kit=
s with the tube and rubber bulb like this one<u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; Amazon.com: Block=
 Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; Made in U=
SA : Automotive<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685y=
iv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-ser=
if;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tes=
ter-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&a=
mp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7=
ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5=
zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g=
-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSl=
o&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=
=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-=
Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp;dib=3Dey=
J2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJoj=
ItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtU=
tQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-s=
AGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&amp;dib_t=
ag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=3D17673616=
65&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3</a>&gt;<u></u><u=
></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&=
gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv366757765=
4MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#2=
6282a;">&gt;&gt; You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your loca=
l auto parts<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3=
667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;=
color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; store.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;">&gt;&gt; Hope this helps<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv3667577654MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a;"=
>&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpfae13685yiv366=
7577654MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;co=
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 on commision plate rivetsas i no longer work, i have no company account an=
d therefore do not get a trade discount.it looks like its going to be aroun=
d 10.00 a pair with postage paid to lower 48.will take a couple of weeks to=
 get shiped if you are interseted.if there is enough interest.
Frank=C2=A0
    On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 09:44:44 AM PST, Frank Fisher <yellowtr3=
@yahoo.com> wrote: =20
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  give me a few days.i did get a run of original rivits made.ill see if i c=
an have a new run made and how much it may cost.they were quite reasonable =
as i recall
Frank

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp179b2ec2yahoo-style-wrap" style=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">on commision plate rivets</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
=3D"false" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helve=
tica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">as i no longer work, i have no c=
ompany account and therefore do not get a trade discount.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helve=
tica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">it looks like it=
s going to be around 10.00 a pair with postage paid to lower 48.</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family=
: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">will take=
 a couple of weeks to get shiped if you are interseted.</div></div>if there=
 is enough interest.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Frank&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>
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                        On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 09:44:44 AM PST, Fra=
nk Fisher &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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;" class=3D"ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydpeacd9c9ayahoo-style-wrap"><div></div=
        <div dir=3D"ltr">give me a few days.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">i did ge=
t a run of original rivits made.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">ill see if i can hav=
e a new run made and how much it may cost.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">they were =
quite reasonable as i recall</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Frank</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
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                        On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 10:48:21 PM PST, Greg=
 Lemon &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b9yiv50760=
23671"><div><div>I don't have real strong feeling one way or the other on r=
e-doing or re-using a commission plate, but the mention of the DMV not cari=
ng about the rivets reminded me of a story (I am getting old, so all I have=
 left is my stories). My brother restored a one owner very original Bugeye =
Sprite.&nbsp; He reused the original plate.&nbsp; The original plate is sec=
ured with sheet metal screws.&nbsp; He reused the original screws.<div><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div>Anyway, DMV didn't like the screws, said it had t=
o be riveted.&nbsp; He even brought the "Complete Original" book, which sho=
wed and mentioned the screws.&nbsp; So the car with original parts is rejec=
ted at title inspection.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I don't re=
member how it ended, but I think my pragmatic brother gave up and riveted t=
he plate on.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Greg Lemon</div><div>T=
R250</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596yd=
p4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_quote ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b9yiv507=
6023671gmail_quote_container"><div id=3D"ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b=
9yiv5076023671yqt48949" class=3D"ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076=
023671yqt8801919366"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4=
a29f8b9yiv5076023671gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40=E2=80=AFPM dave =
northrup &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;" class=3D"ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b9yiv5076023671gma=
il_quote">

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I get that.&nbsp; &nbsp;IMHO,&nbsp; a beautiful plate complements a gorgeou=
s restoration.&nbsp; An original plate,&nbsp; although original,&nbsp; does=
 not.
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<div>I'm going to have my new plate laser engraved.&nbsp; &nbsp;No, it's no=
t original,&nbsp; but it is beautiful&nbsp;</div>
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<div>-------- Original message --------</div>
<div>From: Don Hiscock &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:don.hiscock@gma=
il.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </=
div>
<div>Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) </div>
<div>To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Cc: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"n=
ofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>, Stephen Oertwig &lt=
;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process </div>
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<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b=
9yiv5076023671gmail_default">I'm with Dave -- there's no shame, or substitu=
te, for an original commission number plate irrespective of condition or at=
tachment.&nbsp; :)</div>
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ug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-Sq=
WXG5Z-X5.jpg" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com=
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9yiv5076023671gmail_default">Don</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b=
9yiv5076023671gmail_default">Santa Fe</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"ydp51ecbffayiv4724408596ydp4a29f8b=
9yiv5076023671gmail_default">(TR3B TSF202L with original commission&nbsp;pl=
ate)</div>
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mail_attr">On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15=E2=80=AFPM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a shape=
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ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I wouldn't worry about the rivets.&nbsp; The inspecting of=
ficer won't have a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.&nbsp; A=
nd having a perfectly done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.</=
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<div>On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach =
the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled i=
n Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the different rivets=
 used on other 2000s so the plate
 looks similar.<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission =
plate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was gi=
ven one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping de=
tails. Thought maybe it was a Friday
 car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. <br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country=
. Not sure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other c=
ommission plates and body numbers.<br clear=3D"none">
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I sold it. i=E2=80=99m kinda sorry that I did. And good to hear from you Fr=
ank I am
no longer able to do anything outside my head injured was getting too bad
thanks.

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<div>I sold it. i=E2=80=99m kinda sorry that I did. And good to hear from y=
ou Frank I am no longer able to do anything outside my head injured was get=
ting too bad thanks.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_co=
ntainer"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 7, 2026 at 2:54=
=E2=80=AFPM Frank Fisher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">yellowt=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size=
:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Paul how good to see you emailing again.</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">what did you ever do with your TR?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">and im not sure i like the volvo as modified, but id =
sure like to drive it one time</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Frank Fisher</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div><br></div>
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                        On Tuesday, January 6, 2026 at 01:04:42 PM PST, Pau=
l Dorsey &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">dorpau=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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fae13685yahoo_quoted_8618419593"><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;Helvetica N=
eue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a"><div></di=
v></div></div></div><div><div id=3D"m_-6338595616115941505ydpfae13685yahoo_=
quoted_8618419593"><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Helve=
tica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a"><div><div id=3D"m_-6338=
595616115941505ydpfae13685yiv3667577654"><div><div style=3D"font-size:inher=
it"><a href=3D"https://www.facebook.com/share/19ytP2WKwo/" style=3D"font-si=
ze:inherit" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.facebook.com/sha=
re/19ytP2WKwo/</a></div><br></div><div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Ja=
n 6, 2026 at 8:22=E2=80=AFAM Alex&amp;Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:a=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">aljlthomson@char=
ter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p><span =
style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d">That remind=
s me of International Loadstar series trucks in the early sixties. The seri=
al number plate was screwed to the driver&#39;s door and sometimes the GVW =
space was left blank. You may say that wasn&#39;t a very secure or permanen=
t location but the serial number was also stamped onto the left frame rail,=
 just below where the steering box was bolted on. Internationals were real =
component trucks (like most medium duty trucks) with just about everything =
sourced from outside manufacturers. Unless you had a copy of the line settt=
ing ticket, it could be a challenge to figure out what parts to select when=
 doing a major repair.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:=
14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
><p><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d">A=
lex Thomson<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d">&#39;73 TR6 and lots of farm equipment <u=
></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;pad=
ding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:s=
ans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans=
-serif"> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" re=
l=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b=
>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Lemon<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 6, 2026 1:36 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Triumph List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>=
Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p></div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><p>I don&#39;t have rea=
l strong feeling one way or the other on re-doing or re-using a commission =
plate, but the mention of the DMV not caring about the rivets reminded me o=
f a story (I am getting old, so all I have left is my stories). My brother =
restored a one owner very original Bugeye Sprite.=C2=A0 He reused the origi=
nal plate.=C2=A0 The original plate is secured with sheet metal screws.=C2=
=A0 He reused the original screws.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></p></div><div><p>Anyway, DMV didn&#39;t like the screws, said it had =
to be riveted.=C2=A0 He even brought the &quot;Complete Original&quot; book=
, which showed and mentioned the screws.=C2=A0 So the car with original par=
ts is rejected at title inspection.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p>I don&#39;t remember how it ended, but I thi=
nk my pragmatic brother gave up and riveted the plate on.<u></u><u></u></p>=
</div><div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p>Greg Lemon<u></u><u></u=
></p></div><div><p>TR250<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></p><div><div><p>On Mon, Jan 5, 2026, 11:40<span style=3D"font-family:san=
s-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>PM dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@rantee=
r.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u=
></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #c=
ccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><=
div><p>I get that.=C2=A0 =C2=A0IMHO,=C2=A0 a beautiful plate complements a =
gorgeous restoration.=C2=A0 An original plate,=C2=A0 although original,=C2=
=A0 does not. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div>=
<p>I&#39;m going to have my new plate laser engraved.=C2=A0 =C2=A0No, it&#3=
9;s not original,=C2=A0 but it is beautiful=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><d=
iv><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><=
div><p>-------- Original message --------<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p>Fr=
om: Don Hiscock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <u></u><u></u></p></div>=
<div><p>Date: 1/5/26 7:52 PM (GMT-08:00) <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p>To=
: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p=
>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p>Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commis=
sion plate process <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>=
</div><div><div><div><p>I&#39;m with Dave -- there&#39;s no shame, or subst=
itute, for an original commission number plate irrespective of condition or=
 attachment.=C2=A0 :)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
p></div><div><p><a href=3D"https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf=
7ZNSGg9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg" rel=3D"nofollo=
w" target=3D"_blank">https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-SqWXG5Z/0/Nf7ZNSGg=
9vnb6B5GkBgNJVpXPjB8TssRwFgXW4qzn/X5/i-SqWXG5Z-X5.jpg</a><u></u><u></u></p>=
</div><div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p>Don<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p>Santa Fe<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p>(TR3B TSF202L with orig=
inal commission=C2=A0plate)<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></p><div><div><p>On Mon, Jan 5, 2026 at 6:15<span style=3D"font-family=
:sans-serif">=E2=80=AF</span>PM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1mas=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:s=
olid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right=
:0in"><div><div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">I would=
n&#39;t worry about the rivets.=C2=A0 The inspecting officer won&#39;t have=
 a clue as to what rivets are supposed to be there.=C2=A0 And having a perf=
ectly done commission plate constitutes over-restoration.<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u=
></u></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5p=
t;font-family:sans-serif;color:black">Dave </span><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></d=
iv><p><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-family:san=
s-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div><div id=3D"m_-=
6338595616115941505ydpfae13685yiv3667577654m_-1662076748473478487m_-2915299=
948435810954m_3883493905857412505ydp1cd93a62yahoo_quoted_7781946394"><div><=
div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#2=
6282a">On Monday, January 5, 2026 at 07:59:17 AM CST, Stephen Oertwig &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">oertwi=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div style=3D=
"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;marg=
in-left:6.0pt"><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-ser=
if;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;color:#26282a">I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At l=
east attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the est=
ate titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the diff=
erent rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-se=
rif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">Then need to fin=
d new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers of different si=
zes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of different sizes =
so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought maybe it was a Fri=
day car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. <u></u><u></u></=
span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-ser=
if;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">Would be hard to=
 find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I would like something=
 that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates and body numbers=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><di=
v><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">=
Steve<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#2628=
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[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-request@au=
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Re: Contents of Triumphs digest...&quot;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&=
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e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sa=
ns-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;=C2=A0 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping=
 (dave northrup)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;=C2=A0 2. Re: Head Ga=
sket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#2628=
2a">&gt;=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Sujit Roy)<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&=
gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a=
">&gt; --------------------------------------------------------------------=
--<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><di=
v><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">=
&gt; Message: 1<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026=
 02:46:28 +0000<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; From: dave northrup &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">d=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; To: bill be=
echer &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@=
autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&quot;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">t=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Subjec=
t: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping<u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#2628=
2a">&gt; Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f884936=
@ranteer.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">1a67faca0d794e059a26647c9f=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Content-Ty=
pe: text/plain; charset=3D&quot;utf-8&quot;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a=
">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; I was told that there are now=
 laser &quot;engravers&quot; who can do this<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>=
<div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282=
a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></d=
iv><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">&gt; -------- Original message --------<u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#2628=
2a">&gt; From: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u><=
/span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-se=
rif;color:#26282a">&gt; Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;=
color:#26282a">&gt; To: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-=
serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stampi=
ng<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><di=
v><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">=
&gt; Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.=C2=A0 Of cour=
se, the ?3? will be wrong.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Bill<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; ?Th=
e harder I work, the luckier I get?=C2=A0 H. Ford<u></u><u></u></span></p><=
/div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#=
26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44=
?PM, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
</div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:=
#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; ?<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;co=
lor:#26282a">&gt; Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;=
color:#26282a">&gt; ** <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"no=
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low" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></=
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r:#26282a">&gt; To: Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jerryvvtr4a@gmail=
.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Cc: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triump=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gas=
ket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<u></u><u></u></span></p></div>=
<div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282=
a">&gt; Message-ID:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2B=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8Y=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;col=
or:#26282a">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D&quot;utf-8&quot;<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; Th=
anks, I&#39;ll check them out.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van V=
lack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><di=
v><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">=
&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p>=
</div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:=
#26282a">&gt;&gt; Hi Sujit,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; I have experience with these type kit=
s and they all work basically the<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt;=
 same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color change=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; The multiple test claims relate=
 to the amount of fluid in the kit. You<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>=
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&g=
t;&gt; don&#39;t need to use much fluid for each test.<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;co=
lor:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Having sai=
d this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running the<u></u><u></=
u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans=
-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; car at idle with the radiator cap off until =
the thermostat opens. If when<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; it =
opens you only observe coolant flowing you&#39;re good. If coolant gets<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; blown out of the radiator instead of=
 flowing that&#39;s a good indication of a<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a"=
>&gt;&gt; head gasket issue.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u><=
/u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; I personally like the kits with the =
tube and rubber bulb like this one<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt=
; Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Made in USA : Automotive<u></u><u><=
/u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:san=
s-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Block=
-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2=
V2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6Jmphoi=
ObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI=
5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzo=
fA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQ=
DGSlo&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp=
;qid=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-5=
00-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp;dib=
=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVF=
RDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM=
03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKml=
Q79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&amp;=
dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=3D176=
7361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3</a>&gt;<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div>=
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&g=
t;&gt; You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto par=
ts<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; store.<u></u><u></u></span></p=
></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color=
:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Hope this hel=
ps<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#2628=
2a">&gt;&gt; JVV<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; ----------------=
--------------<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; *From:* Triumphs &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; on behalf of Sujit Ro=
y<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphst=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, =
2026 7:10 PM<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; *To:* Triumphs &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt;=
 *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;=
&gt; I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test =
my<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; engine 50-100 times. What is a=
 good inexpensive kit folks like to use.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&=
gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Sujit<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;=
color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; --<u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; Sujit Roy<u></u><u></u></span></p></d=
iv><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26=
282a">&gt;&gt; Cupertino, California<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&=
gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://triumphst=
agblog.wordpress.com/" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://triumphst=
agblog.wordpress.com/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u>=
<u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt;&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a">&gt; =
<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
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iv><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282a"=
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Listers,
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Tomorrow I will ask a couple of local shops. The was a unit made by Hamilto=
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Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
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Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping

Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.  Of course, the ?3=
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Bill

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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800<br>
From: Sujit Roy &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Jerry Van Vlack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<br>
Message-ID:<br>
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Thanks, I'll check them out.<br>
<br>
On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack &lt;[email-masked]&gt=
;<br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Hi Sujit,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the=
<br>
&gt; same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color ch=
ange.<br>
&gt; The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You=
<br>
&gt; don't need to use much fluid for each test.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running =
the<br>
&gt; car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If w=
hen<br>
&gt; it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets=
<br>
&gt; blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication =
of a<br>
&gt; head gasket issue.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one=
<br>
&gt; Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -=
<br>
&gt; Made in USA : Automotive<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-L=
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&gt;<br>
&gt; You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts=
<br>
&gt; store.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Hope this helps<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; JVV<br>
&gt; ------------------------------<br>
&gt; *From:* Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of =
Sujit Roy<br>
&gt; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
&gt; *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM<br>
&gt; *To:* Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
&gt; *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations<b=
r>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test =
my<br>
&gt; engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.=
<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Sujit<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Sujit Roy<br>
&gt; Cupertino, California<br>
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