Subject: Re: [TR] Replies to List

From: Mark Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2026 15:59:51 -0700

On 1/9/26 1:19 PM, William Smith wrote:
> Listers, Please, please, please refrain from replying to the digest or 
> repeating entire digests in your replies.  Please reply to /include only 
> the the specific thread to which you wish to reply.  Once again the list 
> has become almost impossible to decipher recently.

In my experience, your words of wisdom are falling on deaf ears.  Years 
ago I tried various times to try and get people to edit their replies. 
Back 20 - 30 years ago people had smaller quotas on their mailboxes.  I 
spent a lot of time removing addresses from various lists because the 
mail bounced back because the user was over quota.  Especially AOL 
addresses, they were the worst.  One time I actually did some math and 
found that something like 28% of the email errors I was dealing with 
came from the 8% of list subscribers with .aol addresses.

But all to no avail.  People will not take the time and minimal effort 
to edit their replies.  That's the way it is, and we all have to suffer 
from their laziness or incompetence or whatever reason they don't bother 
editing replies.  Just click the button, who cares about what a mess it 
makes.

mjb, the disgruntled curmudgeon.

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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2026 19:44:51 -0600

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So when I reply to an email in Gmail on my phone, which is the world I and
probably a lot of people who use the list are operating in, I see a blank
page to enter my note and three little dots below, that is it.  I know I
can click on the three little dots and see what they contain, but once
again, on my phone I see the next email if it is short, unless I scroll
down.   In 90 some percent of the emails I send out I have no reason to
further explore the three dots, or scroll down further, hard habit to
break.  Just don't think about it.  Realize you are trying to remind us to
think about it, but I think you have an uphill, losing battle.

Greg Lemon
TR250

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te:

> > repeating entire digests in your replies.  Please reply to /include onl=
y
> > the the specific thread to which you wish to reply.  Once again the lis=
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<div dir=3D"auto">So when I reply to an email in Gmail on my phone, which i=
s the world I and probably a lot of people who use the list are operating i=
n, I see a blank page to enter my note and three little dots below, that is=
 it.=C2=A0 I know I can click on the three little dots and see what they co=
ntain, but once again, on my phone I see the next email if it is short, unl=
ess I scroll down.=C2=A0 =C2=A0In 90 some percent of the emails I send out =
I have no reason to further explore the three dots, or scroll down further,=
 hard habit to break.=C2=A0 Just don&#39;t think about it.=C2=A0 Realize yo=
u are trying to remind us to think about it, but I think you have an uphill=
, losing battle.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_q=
uote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 10, 2026,=
 5:01=E2=80=AFPM Mark Bradakis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">mar=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 1/=
9/26 1:19 PM, William Smith wrote:<br>
&gt; Listers, Please, please, please refrain from replying to the digest or=
 <br>
&gt; repeating entire digests in your replies.=C2=A0 Please reply to /inclu=
de only <br>
&gt; the the specific thread to which you wish to reply.=C2=A0 Once again t=
he list <br>
&gt; has become almost impossible to decipher recently.<br>
<br>
In my experience, your words of wisdom are falling on deaf ears.=C2=A0 Year=
s <br>
ago I tried various times to try and get people to edit their replies. <br>
Back 20 - 30 years ago people had smaller quotas on their mailboxes.=C2=A0 =
I <br>
spent a lot of time removing addresses from various lists because the <br>
mail bounced back because the user was over quota.=C2=A0 Especially AOL <br=
addresses, they were the worst.=C2=A0 One time I actually did some math and=
 <br>
found that something like 28% of the email errors I was dealing with <br>
came from the 8% of list subscribers with .aol addresses.<br>
<br>
But all to no avail.=C2=A0 People will not take the time and minimal effort=
 <br>
to edit their replies.=C2=A0 That&#39;s the way it is, and we all have to s=
uffer <br>
from their laziness or incompetence or whatever reason they don&#39;t bothe=
r <br>
editing replies.=C2=A0 Just click the button, who cares about what a mess i=
t <br>
makes.<br>
<br>
mjb, the disgruntled curmudgeon.<br>
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From: <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2026 21:20:10 -0500

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Bradakis <[email-masked]> 
Sent: January 10, 2026 6:00 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Replies to List

In my experience, your words of wisdom are falling on deaf ears.  Years ago I tried various times to try and get people to edit their replies. 
Back 20 - 30 years ago people had smaller quotas on their mailboxes.  I spent a lot of time removing addresses from various lists because the mail bounced back because the user was over quota.  Especially AOL addresses, they were the worst.  One time I actually did some math and found that something like 28% of the email errors I was dealing with came from the 8% of list subscribers with .aol addresses.

But all to no avail.  People will not take the time and minimal effort to edit their replies.  That's the way it is, and we all have to suffer from their laziness or incompetence or whatever reason they don't bother editing replies.  Just click the button, who cares about what a mess it makes.

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Call us lazy, call us incompetent, but sometimes in our zeal to assist another TR colleague, we just may not notice. None of us intentionally want to tick off our fellow listers. Maybe a kind word to the offender would be more useful in the long run.

Keith Stewart
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World of Triumph https://keith-stewart.ca/