Subject: Re: [TR] Redoing the whole commission plate process

From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2026 03:33:04 +0000

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From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
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John,
Din=E2=80=99t Sir Black hire some army vets to bang out the commission plate=
s. =20
Bill

=E2=80=9CThe harder I work, the luckier I get=E2=80=9D  H. Ford

On Jan 5, 2026, at 8:33=E2=80=AFPM, John Macartney <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

=EF=BB=BFNah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build on a Tu=
esday but don=E2=80=99t expect anything to appear until eight weeks come Fri=
day. Even then, count yer self lucky =E2=80=98cos you ain=E2=80=99t given us=
 an opportunity to go on strike.
Funny sized letters and numbers? Sounds like Nobby with his fisheye glasses a=
nd two left boots is back in circulation again.

Jonmac

> On 5 Jan 2026, at 02:04, Stephen Oertwig <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one=
 so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is=
 a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 200=
0s so the plate looks similar.
>=20
> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has number=
s of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of d=
ifferent sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought mayb=
e it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.
>=20
> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I wou=
ld like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates a=
nd body numbers.
>=20
> Steve
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>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM, [email-masked] wrote=
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>> 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>    (Sujit Roy)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000
>> From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
>> To: bill beecher <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]"
>>   <[email-masked]>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>> Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
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>>=20
>> I was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this
>>=20
>>=20
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
>> Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)
>> To: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping
>>=20
>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.  Of course, the ?=
3? will be wrong.
>> Bill
>>=20
>> ?The harder I work, the luckier I get?  H. Ford
>>=20
>> On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>=20
>> ?
>> Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?
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>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800
>> From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
>> To: Jerry Van Vlack <[email-masked]>
>> Cc: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>> Message-ID:
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>>=20
>> Thanks, I'll check them out.
>>=20
>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van Vlack <[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Hi Sujit,
>>>=20
>>> I have experience with these type kits and they all work basically the
>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color chan=
ge.
>>> The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You
>>> don't need to use much fluid for each test.
>>>=20
>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running th=
e
>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If whe=
n
>>> it opens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets
>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication of=
 a
>>> head gasket issue.
>>>=20
>>> I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this one
>>> Amazon.com: Block Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -
>>> Made in USA : Automotive
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFT=
F/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28I=
yi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92=
Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW=
4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhs=
y3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&dib_tag=3Dse&keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+=
for+coolant&qid=3D1767361665&sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&sr=3D8-3=
>
>>>=20
>>> You might be able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts
>>> store.
>>>=20
>>> Hope this helps
>>>=20
>>> JVV
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of Sujit Ro=
y
>>> <[email-masked]>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM
>>> *To:* Triumphs <[email-masked]>
>>> *Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations
>>>=20
>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my=

>>> engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to use.
>>>=20
>>> Sujit
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> Sujit Roy
>>> Cupertino, California
>>>=20
>>> https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/
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>> --
>> Sujit Roy
>> Cupertino, California
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"auto">John,<div>Din=E2=80=99t Sir Black hire some army vets to bang out the=
 commission plates. &nbsp;</div><div>Bill</div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeg=
inningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9CThe harder I work, the luckier I=
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v dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 5, 2026, at 8:33=E2=80=AFPM, John Macartney &lt;joh=
[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span>=
Nah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build on a Tuesday but=
 don=E2=80=99t expect anything to appear until eight weeks come Friday. Even=
 then, count yer self lucky =E2=80=98cos you ain=E2=80=99t given us an oppor=
tunity to go on strike.</span><br><span>Funny sized letters and numbers? Sou=
nds like Nobby with his fisheye glasses and two left boots is back in circul=
ation again.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Jonmac</span><br><span></span>=
<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On 5 Jan 2026, at 02:04, Stephen Oertwig=
 &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I need to=
 redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original one so sheriff=
 can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It is a long pro=
cess. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 2000s so the p=
late looks similar.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span><=
/span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Then need to find new=
 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbers of different sizes. S=
ure it is because each worker was given one stamp of different sizes so ther=
e was no consistency in stamping details. Thought maybe it was a Friday car;=
 was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch. </span><br></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not s=
ure I would like something that perfect after seeing all the other commissio=
n plates and body numbers.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Steve</span><b=
r></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><bloc=
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</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
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br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(Sujit Roy)</span><br></blockquote></blockquot=
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ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>From: dave nor=
thrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>To: bill beecher &lt;notaki=
[email-masked]&gt;, "[email-masked]"</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span> &nbsp;&nbsp=
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uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Subject: Re: [TR] new com=
mission plate and stamping</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Message-ID: &lt;1a67faca0d794e0=
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cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I was told that the=
re are now laser "engravers" who can do this</span><br></blockquote></blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></=
blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
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uote type=3D"cite"><span>-------- Original message --------</span><br></bloc=
kquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa=
n>From: bill beecher &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</span><br></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Date: 1/=
3/26 4:55 PM (GMT-08:00)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>To: dave northrup &lt;dave@rantee=
r.com&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamp=
ing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Used to be able to get the stamp sets=
 at Harbor Freight. &nbsp;Of course, the ?3? will be wrong.</span><br></bloc=
kquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa=
n>Bill</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>?The harder I work, the luckier I=
 get? &nbsp;H. Ford</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On Dec 6, 2025, at 3=
:44?PM, dave northrup &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></sp=
an><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?</spa=
n><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>** [email-masked] **</span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
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span>From: Sujit Roy &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</span><br></blockquote></=
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t;[email-masked]&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gaske=
t Combustion Leak test kit recommendations</span><br></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Message-ID:</sp=
an><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
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e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Thanks, I'll check them out.=
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cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry V=
an Vlack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></=
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<span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Hi Sujit,</span><br></blo=
ckquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
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te></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><span>I have experience with these type kits and they all w=
ork basically the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>s=
ame by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color change.</=
span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>The multiple test cl=
aims relate to the amount of fluid in the kit. You</span><br></blockquote></=
blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>don't need to use much fluid for each test.<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Having said this you can also look fo=
r a blown head gasket by running the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><span>car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat=
 opens. If when</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>it o=
pens you only observe coolant flowing you're good. If coolant gets</span><br=
></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>blown out of the radiator in=
stead of flowing that's a good indication of a</span><br></blockquote></bloc=
kquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>head gasket issue.</span><br></blockquote></bloc=
kquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><span>I personally like the kits with the tube and rubber bulb like this=
 one</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Amazon.com: Bl=
ock Tester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -</span><br></blockqu=
ote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Made in USA : Automotive</span><br></b=
lockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>&lt;https://www.amazon.com/Block=
-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V=
2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiOb=
Y7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm=
5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g=
-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo=
&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp;qid=3D=
1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3&gt;</span=
><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>You might be able to purchase a similar ki=
t from your local auto parts</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><span>store.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></=
span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Hope this helps</spa=
n><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>JVV</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>------------------------------</span><br></blockquote></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>*From:* Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]=
eam.net&gt; on behalf of Sujit Roy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span>&lt;[email-masked]&gt;</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span>*Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM</span><=
br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>*To:* Triumphs &lt;triumph=
[email-masked]&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><spa=
n>*Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations</span=
><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 2=
0$ up. I dont plan to test my</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>engine 50-100 times. What is a good inexpensive kit folks like to=
 use.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></=
blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Sujit</span><br></blockquote></=
blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Suj=
it Roy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Cupertino, C=
alifornia</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br>=
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>https://triumphstagblog.wordp=
ress.com/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br>=
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><sp=
an></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><span>-- </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Sujit Roy</span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Cupe=
rtino, California</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>https://triumphstagbl=
og.wordpress.com/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"ci=
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He did. Mostly they were former prewar employees who were guaranteed a job a=
t Standard Motor Co if they survived the war. Black also instructed Personne=
l Dept that whatever job they were offered that their salaries were to be at=
 the very summit for that job grade plus 15% - in perpetuity until they eith=
er retired or died in service. I based the conversation of yesterday on two o=
f those men who did that job. Both had serious war wounds but indomitable sp=
irits and humour.

JM

> On 8 Jan 2026, at 04:31, bill beecher <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> John,
> Din=E2=80=99t Sir Black hire some army vets to bang out the commission pla=
tes. =20
> On Jan 5, 2026, at 8:33=E2=80=AFPM, John Macartney <[email-masked]=
> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BFNah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build on a T=
uesday but don=E2=80=99t expect anything to appear until eight weeks come Fri=
day. Even then, count yer self lucky =E2=80=98cos you ain=E2=80=99t given us=
 an opportunity to go on strike.
> Funny sized letters and numbers? Sounds like Nobby with his fisheye glasse=
s and two left boots is back in circulation again.
>> I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At least attach the original on=
e so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate titled in Missouri. It i=
s a long process. I have been studying the different rivets used on other 20=
00s so the plate looks similar.
>>=20
>> Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission plate has numbe=
rs of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given one stamp of=
 different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping details. Thought ma=
ybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe after lunch.=20=

>>=20
>> Would be hard to find a laser engraver out here in country. Not sure I wo=
uld like something that perfect after seeing all the other commission plates=
 and body numbers.
>>=20
>> Steve
>>=20
>>> On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM, [email-masked] wrot=
e:
>>> Used to be able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight.  Of course, the=
 ?3? will be wrong.
>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  http://www.team.net/arc=
hive
>>>=20
>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/notak=
[email-masked]
>>> URL: <http://autox.team.net/pipermail/triumphs/attachments/20260104/267d=
5f70/attachment-0001.htm>
>>>> same by pulling gases up thru testing fluid and looking for a color cha=
nge.
>>>> Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running t=
he
>>>> car at idle with the radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If wh=
en
>>>> blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indication o=
f a
>>>> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of Sujit R=
oy
>>>> I see kits on Amazon priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test m=
y
>>> --=20
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21db/attachment-0001.htm>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">He d=
id. Mostly they were former prewar employees who were guaranteed a job at St=
andard Motor Co if they survived the war. Black also instructed Personnel De=
pt that whatever job they were offered that their salaries were to be at the=
 very summit for that job grade plus 15% - in perpetuity until they either r=
etired or died in service. I based the conversation of yesterday on two of t=
hose men who did that job. Both had serious war wounds but indomitable spiri=
ts and humour.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">JM</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 8 Jan 2026, at 04:31, bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" con=
tent=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">John,<div>Din=E2=80=99t Sir Black hire s=
ome army vets to bang out the commission plates. &nbsp;</div><div>Bill</div>=
<div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=9CTh=
e harder I work, the luckier I get<span style=3D"font-size: 19pt;">=E2=80=9D=
 &nbsp;H. Ford</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jan 5, 2026, at 8:33=E2=80=
=AFPM, John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">johnbmac=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span>N=
ah. We none of us worked that fast! Okay, commission build on a Tuesday but d=
on=E2=80=99t expect anything to appear until eight weeks come Friday. Even t=
hen, count yer self lucky =E2=80=98cos you ain=E2=80=99t given us an opportu=
nity to go on strike.</span><br><span>Funny sized letters and numbers? Sound=
s like Nobby with his fisheye glasses and two left boots is back in circulat=
ion again.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Jonmac</span><br><span></span><b=
r><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On 5 Jan 2026, at 02:04, Stephen Oertwig &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span><=
br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>I need to redo plate on 1967 2000 estate. At lea=
st attach the original one so sheriff can validate the VIN to get the estate=
 titled in Missouri. It is a long process. I have been studying the differen=
t rivets used on other 2000s so the plate looks similar.</span><br></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span>Then need to find new 2000 plate. The original commission pl=
ate has numbers of different sizes. Sure it is because each worker was given=
 one stamp of different sizes so there was no consistency in stamping detail=
s. Thought maybe it was a Friday car; was commissioned on a Tuesday. Maybe a=
fter lunch. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><=
br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Would be hard to find a lase=
r engraver out here in country. Not sure I would like something that perfect=
 after seeing all the other commission plates and body numbers.</span><br></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span>Steve</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>On Jan 4, 2026, at 1:00=E2=80=AFPM, <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a> wrote:</span><br=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>Send Triumphs mailing list submissions to</span>=
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ailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a></=
span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>You can reach the person managing the li=
st at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-owner@autox.=
team.net">[email-masked]</a></span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific</sp=
an><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>than "Re: Contents of Triumphs digest..."</span><br></blockquot=
e></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></s=
pan><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Today's Topics:</span><br></blockquote></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span>=
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span> 1. Re: new commission plate and stamping (dave northrup)</span>=
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span> 2. Re: Head Gasket Combustion Leak test kit recommendations</sp=
an><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(Sujit Roy)</span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><span>----------------------------------------------------=
------------------</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Message: 1</span><br=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span>Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2026 02:46:28 +0000</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>From: dave n=
orthrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</sp=
an><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>To: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">no=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;, "<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triu=
[email-masked]</a>"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span> &nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span=
>Subject: Re: [TR] new commission plate and stamping</span><br></blockquote>=
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Messa=
ge-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">1=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Conten=
t-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I=
 was told that there are now laser "engravers" who can do this</span><br></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>-------- Original message -------=
-</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>From: bill beecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:notakitcar@yahoo=
.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Date: 1/3/26 4:55 PM (G=
MT-08:00)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>To: dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@ran=
teer.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Subject: Re: [TR] new c=
ommission plate and stamping</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Used to be=
 able to get the stamp sets at Harbor Freight. &nbsp;Of course, the ?3? will=
 be wrong.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Bill</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote>=
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>?The h=
arder I work, the luckier I get? &nbsp;H. Ford</span><br></blockquote></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br>=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><span>On Dec 6, 2025, at 3:44?PM, dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave=
@ranteer.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br><=
/blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><span>?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span>Who is the go to person for a 58 TR3a?</span><br>=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><span>** <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
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ckquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquot=
e></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Mes=
sage: 2</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><span>Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2026 21:26:32 -0800</span><br></b=
lockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span>From: Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphsta=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>To: Jerry Van Vlack &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br></blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>C=
c: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Subject: Re: [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Le=
ak test kit recommendations</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Message-ID:</span><br></blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span> &=
nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAO=
[email-masked]">CANLCLaFpcQwtS2hf5x8YWBbs8DMCJVyo4V3ORj-LAOJwwG2BGw=
@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D=
"utf-8"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Thanks, I'll check them out.</s=
pan><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 5:53?AM Jerry Van V=
lack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><span>wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span>Hi Sujit,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I have expe=
rience with these type kits and they all work basically the</span><br></bloc=
kquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>same by pulling gases up thru testing=
 fluid and looking for a color change.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span>The multiple test claims relate to the amount of fluid in=
 the kit. You</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>don't=
 need to use much fluid for each test.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span=
>Having said this you can also look for a blown head gasket by running the</=
span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>car at idle with the=
 radiator cap off until the thermostat opens. If when</span><br></blockquote=
></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>it opens you only observe coolant flowing=
 you're good. If coolant gets</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquo=
te><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span>blown out of the radiator instead of flowing that's a good indica=
tion of a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>head gasket=
 issue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br>=
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I personally like the kits wi=
th the tube and rubber bulb like this one</span><br></blockquote></blockquot=
e></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span><a href=3D"http://Amazon.com">Amazon.com</a>: Block T=
ester BT-500 Head Gasket Combustion Leak Test Kit -</span><br></blockquote><=
/blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Made in USA : Automotive</span><br></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>&lt;<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com=
/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3Dsr_1_3?crid=3DB5BEL=
SHHE2V2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1UFhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6Jm=
phoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3lzAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMS=
thI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxTjRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugO=
zofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KNVjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-t=
QDGSlo&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tester+for+coolant&amp=
;qid=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3537&amp;sr=3D8-3">h=
ttps://www.amazon.com/Block-Tester-BT-500-Combustion-Leak/dp/B06VVBSFTF/ref=3D=
sr_1_3?crid=3DB5BELSHHE2V2&amp;dib=3DeyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1SS7r-3wwU3Nafy7CtM28Iyi1U=
FhNYzuKm6VozhuZB6JmphoiObY7ydUAVFRDJojItaOxcsoWSJOvF8VBksGnRIxMIY8JVoJ92Yz3l=
zAb3CxD4OwrAmEZEhMSthI5Fm5zY-HNM03FtUtQ3dlNeZniiIaxbMX-RhJaMXo76JKRKe0AW4xxT=
jRscAG_XLxI3CAFfugOzofA4g-QoKmlQ79-sAGUEaRvYde6fnFW1zmzhM.by9KSQykThDUhsy3KN=
VjbccVNlPYLqEa5Qd-tQDGSlo&amp;dib_tag=3Dse&amp;keywords=3Dcombustion+gas+tes=
ter+for+coolant&amp;qid=3D1767361665&amp;sprefix=3DCombustion+gas+%2Caps%2C3=
537&amp;sr=3D8-3</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>You might be=
 able to purchase a similar kit from your local auto parts</span><br></block=
quote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>store.</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote=
><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><span>Hope this helps</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>JVV</span><b=
r></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>---------------------------=
---</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>*From:* Triumph=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphs-bounces@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Sujit Roy</span><br></blockquote></blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><span>&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triump=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
span>*Sent:* Thursday, January 1, 2026 7:10 PM</span><br></blockquote></bloc=
kquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite"><span>*To:* Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@au=
tox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;</span><br></blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><span>*Subject:* [TR] Head Gasket Combustion Leak test k=
it recommendations</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>=
</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>I see kits on Amaz=
on priced anywhere from 20$ up. I dont plan to test my</span><br></blockquot=
e></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>engine 50-100 times. What is a good inex=
pensive kit folks like to use.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Sujit<=
/span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockq=
uote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquot=
e></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite"><span>Sujit Roy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite"><span>Cupertino, California</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span><a=
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pan><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><bl=
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te></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><span>-- </span><br></blockquote></blockquote><block=
quote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span>Sujit Roy</span><br></bl=
ockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><s=
pan>Cupertino, California</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockq=
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