Subject: [TR] replies to messages - 2

From: Peter Arakelian <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 19:32:43 +0000

This is what I mean, I hit reply, notice the entire digest is attached....

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (Allen Hess)
   2. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (DAVE HOGYE)
   3. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (Don Hiscock)
   4. front fender bolt heads ([email-masked])
   5. Re: Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 39 (John Finlayson)
   6. Re: Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 39 (Frank Fisher)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 14:56:08 -0400
From: Allen Hess <[email-masked]>
To: triumphs list <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads

I?ve had some success protecting the paint with a small piece of polyethylene plastic sheet over the bolt head. A socket will still fit over the bolt head and it works in a slotted head too. The paint may still chip if it is hard or brittle.
> 
> Subject: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
> Date: March 27, 2022 at 2:40:51 AM EDT
> 
> 
> Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
> Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under the bonnet (hood in USA)
> Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6 each side)  and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if they were just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or unpainted & cadmium plated? 
> I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running again & I have done a few miles and everything has settled  I will need to go round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If I do need to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the hex sides of the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them when I put the socket onto them?
> All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
> Alan
> TS3612
> AW & LJ Dunscombe
> New Zealand
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 12:46:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
To: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>, dave northrup
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Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads

This TR2 might be unrestored, but it was repainted.  Body tags, rubber grommets and other items too.  
Dave H. 

>     On 03/27/2022 8:10 AM Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>     Definitely body color.  Here's an underbonnet photo of an unrestored long-door TR2:
> 
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>     On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 9:52 AM dave northrup <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
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>         > > 
> >         Yes, body color.  And I believe you can get sockets with coated insides.  Or just be really careful and don?t lean into it
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         From: Triumphs <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > On Behalf Of DAVID MASSEY
> >         Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 8:42 AM
> >         To: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] ; [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> >         Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         I seem to recall that they are painted body colour (ie: the body was assembled before painting).  When I assembled my car I used stainless steel fasteners and and left them unpainted.  The appearance is striking with the shimmering screw heads (which will remain shiny forever more) but I'll bet it will be points off in a concours.
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> >          
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> >         I rather doubt they will need re-torquing if they are sufficiently snugged up during initial assembly.  I never had any issues.
> > 
> >          
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> >         Enjoy the activity.
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> >          
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> >         Dave
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> >         -----Original Message-----
> >         From: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] >
> >         To: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> >         Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 1:40 am
> >         Subject: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
> > 
> >         Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
> > 
> >         Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under the bonnet (hood in USA)
> > 
> >         Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6 each side)  and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if they were just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or unpainted & cadmium plated?
> > 
> >         I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running again & I have done a few miles and everything has settled  I will need to go round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If I do need to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the hex sides of the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them when I put the socket onto them?
> > 
> >         All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
> > 
> >         Alan
> > 
> >         TS3612
> > 
> >         AW & LJ Dunscombe
> > 
> >         New Zealand
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> > >                1. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (bill beecher)
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> > >                2. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Don Hiscock)
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> > >                3. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Patrick Baize)
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> > >                4. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Sujit Roy)
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> > >                5. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Rye Livingston)
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> > >                6. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (DAVID MASSEY)
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> > >                7. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (John Innis)
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> > >             Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600
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> > >             From: bill beecher <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> > > 
> > >             To: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
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> > >             Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked], Triumphs list
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> > >             Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> > >             Message-ID: <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
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> > >             Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> > >              
> > > 
> > >             Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas. 
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> > > 
> > >             A little man who wasn't there,
> > > 
> > >             He wasn't there again today
> > > 
> > >             Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> > > 
> > >              
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> > >             On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             ?
> > > 
> > >             I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!   California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest. 
> > > 
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> > >             Don
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> > >             On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
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> > >               
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> > >                 > > > > 
> > > >                 I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
> > > > 
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> > > >                 Jonmac
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> > >             Message: 2
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> > >             Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
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> > >             From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> > > 
> > >             To: bill beecher <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> > > 
> > >             Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked], Triumphs list
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> > >               <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
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> > >             Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> > >             Message-ID:
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> > >               <CAPK7CFD=[email-masked]> mailto:CAPK7CFD=[email-masked]
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> > >             A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon
> > > 
> > >             there this afternoon.
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> > >              
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> > >             On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
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> > >              
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> > >               
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> > >                 > > > > 
> > > >                 Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                 ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> > > > 
> > > >                 A little man who wasn't there,
> > > > 
> > > >                 He wasn't there again today
> > > > 
> > > >                 Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                 On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                 ?
> > > > 
> > > >                 I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> > > > 
> > > >                 ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
> > > > 
> > > >                 trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
> > > > 
> > > >                 California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                 Don
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                 On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> > > > 
> > > >                 wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                     
> > > > 
> > > >                     > > > > > 
> > > > >                     I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     hasn?t changed - yet.
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Jonmac
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined study
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     full of titles that are all illegible?
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     ** [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] **
> > > > > 
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> > >             Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
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> > >             From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
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> > >             To: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
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> > >             Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> > >             Message-ID: <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
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> > >             Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my 
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> > >             life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
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> > >             On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
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> > > >                 A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US 
> > > > 
> > > >                 gallon there this afternoon.
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> > > >                 On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] 
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> > > >                     Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
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> > > >                     ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
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> > > >                     A little man who wasn't there,
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> > > >                     He wasn't there again today
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> > > >                     Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
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> > > >                     On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
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> > > >                     ?
> > > > 
> > > >                     I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
> > > > 
> > > >                     ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
> > > > 
> > > >                     that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
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> > > >                     4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
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> > > >                     pricing faster than the US midwest.
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> > > >                  
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> > > >                     Don
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> > > >                     On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
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> > > >                  
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> > > >                         I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
> > > > 
> > > >                         today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
> > > > 
> > > >                         half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
> > > > 
> > > >                         where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
> > > > 
> > > >                         with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
> > > > 
> > > >                         litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> > > > 
> > > >                         cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
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> > > >                         passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
> > > > 
> > > >                         morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
> > > > 
> > > >                         Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
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> > > >                         Jonmac
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> > > >                         showing the world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 15:11:40 -0500
From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
To: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Cc: dave northrup <[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]"
	<[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
Message-ID:
	<CAPK7CFAW-MsO-=[email-masked]>

Indeed, one corner and inner fender of that TR2 were repainted in period,
if I recall what the owner told me years ago -- it's the former Harrah's
automobile collection car and known to some of us on this group.  I'll have
to see what other pix may I have.  That image I attached was the first that
came up.

Here are a couple of unrestored TR3Bs (where I have a much deeper
archive).  I don't know a thing about the intervening history of these,
though.

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 2:47 PM DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]> wrote:

> This TR2 might be unrestored, but it was repainted.  Body tags, rubber
> grommets and other items too.
> Dave H.
>
> On 03/27/2022 8:10 AM Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> Definitely body color.  Here's an underbonnet photo of an
> unrestored long-door TR2:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 9:52 AM dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Yes, body color.  And I believe you can get sockets with coated insides.
> Or just be really careful and don?t lean into it
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *DAVID
> MASSEY
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2022 8:42 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
>
>
>
> I seem to recall that they are painted body colour (ie: the body was
> assembled before painting).  When I assembled my car I used stainless steel
> fasteners and and left them unpainted.  The appearance is striking with the
> shimmering screw heads (which will remain shiny forever more) but I'll bet
> it will be points off in a concours.
>
>
>
> I rather doubt they will need re-torquing if they are sufficiently snugged
> up during initial assembly.  I never had any issues.
>
>
>
> Enjoy the activity.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 1:40 am
> Subject: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
>
> Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
>
> Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under the
> bonnet (hood in USA)
>
> Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the
> scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6 each
> side)  and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if they were
> just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or unpainted &
> cadmium plated?
>
> I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running again
> & I have done a few miles and everything has settled  I will need to go
> round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If I do need
> to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the hex sides of
> the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them when I put the
> socket onto them?
>
> All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
>
> Alan
>
> TS3612
>
> AW & LJ Dunscombe
>
> New Zealand
>
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>
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600
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> From: bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> To: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
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>   <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
>
>
> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
>
> A little man who wasn't there,
>
> He wasn't there again today
>
> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
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>
>
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
>
> ?
>
> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!   California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
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> Don
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> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>
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> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
>
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> Jonmac
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
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> From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> To: bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
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>   <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon
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> there this afternoon.
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>
>
> On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
>
>
> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
>
> A little man who wasn't there,
>
> He wasn't there again today
>
> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
>
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
>
> ?
>
> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
>
> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
>
> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
>
> California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
>
> decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
>
> around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
>
> available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
>
> effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
>
> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
>
> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
>
> 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
>
> hasn?t changed - yet.
>
>
>
> Jonmac
>
>
>
> Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the
>
> world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined study
>
> full of titles that are all illegible?
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> Message: 3
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
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> From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
>
> To: [email-masked]
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> Message-ID: <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my
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> life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
>
>
>
> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US
>
> gallon there this afternoon.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]
>
>
>
>
>     Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
>
>
>     ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
>
>     A little man who wasn't there,
>
>     He wasn't there again today
>
>     Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
>
>
>
>     On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]
>
>
>
>
>     ?
>
>     I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
>
>     ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
>
>     that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
>
>     4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
>
>     pricing faster than the US midwest.
>
>
>
>     Don
>
>
>
>     On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
>
>
>
>
>         I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
>
>         today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
>
>         half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
>
>         where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
>
>         with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
>
>         litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
>
>         cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
>
>         passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
>
>         morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
>
>         Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
>
>
>
>         Jonmac
>
>
>
>         Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed?
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:39:59 +0000 (UTC)
From: [email-masked]
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] front fender bolt heads

Alan:When my beloved TS981L was completed in 2003 the bolt heads were painted body color (Ice Blue) and now after 46,200 miles (odometer was zeroed during restoration) the bolt heads have never been touched.? ?Ole 981 loves to cruise at 80 MPH on the Interstate (which he has done often).
Lou MetelkoAuburn, Indiana54 TR2 LDTS981L
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:42:22 -0700
From: John Finlayson <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 39
Message-ID:
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I am from Vancouver BC  Canada. I am told we have the highest gas prices in
North America. Currently the price for regular (87 Octane) is about $2
CAD/liter. My last fill up for the Honda was $1.95 CAD/liter. $1.95 CAD =
$1.52 USD x 3.785 liters/US Gal  = *$5.76* USD/US Gal..... I haven't filled
up the TR4 recently but I put 93 octane in it which will cost a lot more.

John Finlayson

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>    1. Front Fender bolt heads (Alan & Lyn Dunscombe)
>    2. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (DAVID MASSEY)
>    3. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (dave northrup)
>    4. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (Don Hiscock)
>    5. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (Jeff Scarbrough)
>    6. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (DAVE HOGYE)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:40:51 +1300
> From: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
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>
> Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
>
> Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under
> the bonnet (hood in USA)
>
> Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the
> scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6
> each side) and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if
> they were just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or
> unpainted & cadmium plated?
>
> I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running
> again & I have done a few miles and everything has settled I will need
> to go round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If
> I do need to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the
> hex sides of the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them
> when I put the socket onto them?
>
> All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
>
> Alan
>
> TS3612
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> AW&  LJ Dunscombe
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> >     4. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Sujit Roy)
> >     5. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Rye Livingston)
> >     6. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (DAVID MASSEY)
> >     7. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (John Innis)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600
> > From: bill beecher<[email-masked]>
> > To: Don Hiscock<[email-masked]>
> > Cc: John Macartney<[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
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> > Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> > Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
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> > Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> >
> > ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> > A little man who wasn't there,
> > He wasn't there again today
> > Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
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> > On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock<[email-masked]>  wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
>  California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
> >
> > Don
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney<[email-masked]>
> wrote:
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> >> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
> decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
> around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
> available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
> effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
> 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> hasn?t changed - yet.
> >>
> >> Jonmac
> >>
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> > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
> > From: Don Hiscock<[email-masked]>
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> > Cc: John Macartney<[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
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> > there this afternoon.
> >
> > On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher<[email-masked]>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> >>
> >> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> >> A little man who wasn't there,
> >> He wasn't there again today
> >> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> >>
> >> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock<[email-masked]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?
> >> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> >> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a
> driving
> >> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
> >> California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney<[email-masked]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
> >>> decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
> >>> around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel
> might be
> >>> available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
> >>> effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> >>> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> >>> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from
> 8.77 to
> >>> 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> >>> hasn?t changed - yet.
> >>>
> >>> Jonmac
> >>>
> >>> Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing
> the
> >>> world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined
> study
> >>> full of titles that are all illegible?
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
> > From: Patrick Baize<[email-masked]>
> > To: [email-masked]
> > Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> > Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
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> > Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my
> > life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
> >
> >
> > On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
> >
> >> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US
> >> gallon there this afternoon.
> >>
> >> On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher<[email-masked]
> >>
> >>      Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> >>
> >>      ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> >>      A little man who wasn't there,
> >>      He wasn't there again today
> >>      Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> >>
> >>      On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock<[email-masked]
> >>
> >>      ?
> >>      I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
> >>      ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
> >>      that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
> >>      4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
> >>      pricing faster than the US midwest.
> >>
> >>      Don
> >>
> >>      On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
> >>
> >>          I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
> >>          today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
> >>          half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
> >>          where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
> >>          with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
> >>          litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> >>          cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
> >>          passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
> >>          morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
> >>          Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
> >>
> >>          Jonmac
> >>
> >>          Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed?
> >>          showing the world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you
> >>          have a book-lined study full of titles that are all illegible?
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:41:57 +0000 (UTC)
> From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
> To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>,
>         "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
> Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
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>
>  I seem to recall that they are painted body colour (ie: the body was
> assembled before painting).? When I assembled my car I used stainless steel
> fasteners and and left them unpainted.? The appearance is striking with the
> shimmering screw heads (which will remain shiny forever more) but I'll bet
> it will be points off in a concours.
> I rather doubt they will need re-torquing if they are sufficiently snugged
> up during initial assembly.? I never had any issues.
> Enjoy the activity.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 1:40 am
> Subject: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
>
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> _filtered {}#yiv3646312549 div.yiv3646312549Section1 {}-->Alright,here's a
> question for the archivists... Amabout to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted,
> and need adviceabout under the bonnet (hood in USA) Wherethe front
> guards/fenders are bolted onto the innerguards from the scuttle/firewall
> forward to the front apron, the headsof the bolts(6 each side) ?and washer
> underneath arevisible. Anyone know for sure if they were just painted in
> the bodycolour alongwith everything else, or unpainted & cadmium plated?
> Iassume they were painted, and i
>  magine that once the car isrunning again & I have done a few miles and
> everything has settled ?I will need to go round all those bolts andcheck if
> they need tightening again. If I do need to tighten them thenI willprobably
> damage the paint on the hex sides of the bolts unless there issometrick way
> to protect them when I put the socket onto them? Allthoughts / suggestions
> gratefully accepted. Alan TS3612 AW & LJ Dunscombe
> New Zealand
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600
> From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
> To: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
> Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> A little man who wasn't there,
> He wasn't there again today
> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
>
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> ?
> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
>  California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
>
> Don
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>  I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
> decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
> around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
> available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
> effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
> 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> hasn?t changed - yet.
>
> Jonmac
>
> Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the
> world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined study
> full of titles that are all illegible?
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
> From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
> To: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
> Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
>         <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon
> there this afternoon.
>
> On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
>  Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> A little man who wasn't there,
> He wasn't there again today
> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
>
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> ?
> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
> California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
>
> Don
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>
>  I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
> decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
> around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
> available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
> effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
> 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> hasn?t changed - yet.
>
> Jonmac
>
> Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the
> world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined study
> full of titles that are all illegible?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
> From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
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> Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my
> life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
>
>
> On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
>
>  A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US
> gallon there this afternoon.
>
> On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]
>
>     Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
>     ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
>     A little man who wasn't there,
>     He wasn't there again today
>     Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
>
>     On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]
>
>     ?
>     I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
>     ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
>     that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
>     4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
>     pricing faster than the US midwest.
>
>     Don
>
>     On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
>
>         I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
>         today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
>         half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
>         where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
>         with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
>         litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
>         cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
>         passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
>         morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
>         Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
>
>         Jonmac
>
>         Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed?
>         showing the world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you
>         have a book-lined study full of titles that are all illegible?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 14:52:33 +0000
> From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
> To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
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> Yes, body color.  And I believe you can get sockets with coated insides.
> Or just be really careful and don?t lean into it
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> From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of DAVID MASSEY
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 8:42 AM
> To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
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> I seem to recall that they are painted body colour (ie: the body was
> assembled before painting).  When I assembled my car I used stainless steel
> fasteners and and left them unpainted.  The appearance is striking with the
> shimmering screw heads (which will remain shiny forever more) but I'll bet
> it will be points off in a concours.
>
> I rather doubt they will need re-torquing if they are sufficiently snugged
> up during initial assembly.  I never had any issues.
>
> Enjoy the activity.
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> Dave
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 1:40 am
> Subject: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
> Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
> Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under the
> bonnet (hood in USA)
> Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the
> scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6 each
> side)  and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if they were
> just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or unpainted &
> cadmium plated?
> I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running again
> & I have done a few miles and everything has settled  I will need to go
> round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If I do need
> to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the hex sides of
> the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them when I put the
> socket onto them?
> All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
> Alan
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> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
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> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
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> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
>  California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
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> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]
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> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today decided
> to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured around the
> local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be available.
> To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
> litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the cheapest was one US
> gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the same gas station where
> the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12.  Diesel was
> even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon
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> there this afternoon.
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> [email-masked]> wrote:
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>
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>
>
> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
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> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
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> A little man who wasn't there,
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> He wasn't there again today
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> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
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> [email-masked]> wrote:
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> ?
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> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
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> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
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> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
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> California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
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> Don
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> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]
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> wrote:
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> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
>
> decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
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> around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
>
> available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
>
> effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
>
> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
>
> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
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> 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
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> hasn?t changed - yet.
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>
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> Jonmac
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> Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the
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> Message: 3
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my
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> life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
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> On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
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>
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> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US
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> gallon there this afternoon.
>
>
>
> [email-masked]>
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>
>
>     Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
>
>
>     ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
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>     A little man who wasn't there,
>
>     He wasn't there again today
>
>     Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
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>
>
>     On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]
>
>
>
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>     ?
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>     I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
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>     ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
>
>     that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
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>     4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
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>     pricing faster than the US midwest.
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>
>
>     Don
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>
>
>     On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
>
>
>
>
>         I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
>
>         today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
>
>         half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
>
>         where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
>
>         with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
>
>         litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
>
>         cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
>
>         passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
>
>         morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
>
>         Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
>
>
>
>         Jonmac
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>
>
>         Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 10:10:25 -0500
> From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
> To: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
> Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
> Message-ID:
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> Definitely body color.  Here's an underbonnet photo of an
> unrestored long-door TR2:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 9:52 AM dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> > Yes, body color.  And I believe you can get sockets with coated insides.
> > Or just be really careful and don?t lean into it
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *DAVID
> > MASSEY
> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2022 8:42 AM
> > *To:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> > *Subject:* Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
> >
> >
> >
> > I seem to recall that they are painted body colour (ie: the body was
> > assembled before painting).  When I assembled my car I used stainless
> steel
> > fasteners and and left them unpainted.  The appearance is striking with
> the
> > shimmering screw heads (which will remain shiny forever more) but I'll
> bet
> > it will be points off in a concours.
> >
> >
> >
> > I rather doubt they will need re-torquing if they are sufficiently
> snugged
> > up during initial assembly.  I never had any issues.
> >
> >
> >
> > Enjoy the activity.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked]>
> > To: [email-masked]
> > Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 1:40 am
> > Subject: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
> >
> > Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
> >
> > Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under
> the
> > bonnet (hood in USA)
> >
> > Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the
> > scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6
> each
> > side)  and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if they
> were
> > just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or unpainted
> &
> > cadmium plated?
> >
> > I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running
> again
> > & I have done a few miles and everything has settled  I will need to go
> > round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If I do
> need
> > to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the hex sides of
> > the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them when I put the
> > socket onto them?
> >
> > All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > TS3612
> >
> > AW & LJ Dunscombe
> >
> > New Zealand
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/03/2022 8:00 a.m., [email-masked] wrote:
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> >    1. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (bill beecher)
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> >    2. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Don Hiscock)
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> >    3. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Patrick Baize)
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> >    4. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Sujit Roy)
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> >    5. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Rye Livingston)
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> >    6. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (DAVID MASSEY)
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> > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600
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> > From: bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> >
> > To: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> > Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>,
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> >   <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> > Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> > Message-ID: <[email-masked]> <
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> >
> >
> > Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> >
> >
> >
> > ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> >
> > A little man who wasn't there,
> >
> > He wasn't there again today
> >
> > Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > ?
> >
> > I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
>  California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]>
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
> decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
> around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
> available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
> effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
> 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> hasn?t changed - yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jonmac
> >
> >
> >
> > Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing
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> > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
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> > From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> >
> > To: bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> > Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>,
> Triumphs list
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> >   <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> > Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> > Message-ID:
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> >   <CAPK7CFD=[email-masked]>
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> >
> > A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon
> >
> > there this afternoon.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]> <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> >
> >
> >
> > ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> >
> > A little man who wasn't there,
> >
> > He wasn't there again today
> >
> > Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > ?
> >
> > I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> >
> > ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a
> driving
> >
> > trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
> >
> > California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]>
> <[email-masked]>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
> >
> > decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
> >
> > around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might
> be
> >
> > available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
> >
> > effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> >
> > cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> >
> > same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77
> to
> >
> > 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> >
> > hasn?t changed - yet.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jonmac
> >
> >
> >
> > Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the
> >
> > world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined
> study
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> > full of titles that are all illegible?
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> > Message: 3
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> > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
> >
> > From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> >
> > To: [email-masked]
> >
> > Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> >
> > Message-ID: <[email-masked]> <
> [email-masked]>
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
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> >
> >
> > Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my
> >
> > life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US
> >
> > gallon there this afternoon.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> >
> >
> >
> >     ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> >
> >     A little man who wasn't there,
> >
> >     He wasn't there again today
> >
> >     Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> >
> >
> >
> >     On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]
> >
> >
> >
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> >     ?
> >
> >     I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
> >
> >     ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
> >
> >     that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
> >
> >     4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
> >
> >     pricing faster than the US midwest.
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> >
> >
> >     Don
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> >
> >
> >     On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
> >
> [email-masked]>> wrote:
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> >
> >         I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
> >
> >         today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
> >
> >         half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
> >
> >         where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
> >
> >         with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
> >
> >         litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> >
> >         cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
> >
> >         passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
> >
> >         morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
> >
> >         Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
> >
> >
> >
> >         Jonmac
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> >
> >
> >         Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed?
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> >         showing the world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you
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> >         have a book-lined study full of titles that are all illegible?
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 11:48:05 -0400
> From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
> To: "Alan & Lyn Dunscombe" <[email-masked]>
> Cc: "Triumphs ([email-masked])" <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
> Message-ID:
>         <
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> Not just the bolts, but the unpainted portion of the fender or washer that
> was under the bolt before you turned it.  Two thoughts: Did the factory
> never needed to tighten them? and You will probably have to re-spray the
> bolts of you do wind up moving them.
>
> You might have success if you protect the flats with blue painters tape to
> test for tightness, but once it moves I don't see any solution that doesn't
> involve more paint.
>
> -- Jeff
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2022, 02:41 Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
> > Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
> >
> > Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under
> the
> > bonnet (hood in USA)
> >
> > Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the
> > scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6
> each
> > side)  and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if they
> > were just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or
> > unpainted & cadmium plated?
> >
> > I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running
> again
> > & I have done a few miles and everything has settled  I will need to go
> > round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If I do
> need
> > to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the hex sides of
> > the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them when I put the
> > socket onto them?
> >
> > All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > TS3612
> >
> > AW & LJ Dunscombe
> > New Zealand
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> >    1. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (bill beecher)
> >    2. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Don Hiscock)
> >    3. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Patrick Baize)
> >    4. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Sujit Roy)
> >    5. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Rye Livingston)
> >    6. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (DAVID MASSEY)
> >    7. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (John Innis)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600
> > From: bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> > To: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> > Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>,
> Triumphs list
> >       <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> > Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> > Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> >
> > ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> > A little man who wasn't there,
> > He wasn't there again today
> > Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> >
> > On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
>  California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
> >
> > Don
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]>
> <[email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
> decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
> around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
> available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
> effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
> 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> hasn?t changed - yet.
> >
> > Jonmac
> >
> > Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing
> the world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined
> study full of titles that are all illegible?
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
> > From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> > To: bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> > Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>,
> Triumphs list
> >       <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> > Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> > Message-ID:
> >       <CAPK7CFD=
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> >
> > A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon
> > there this afternoon.
> >
> > On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]> <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> >
> > ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> > A little man who wasn't there,
> > He wasn't there again today
> > Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> >
> > On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> > ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a
> driving
> > trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
> > California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
> >
> > Don
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]>
> <[email-masked]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
> > decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
> > around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might
> be
> > available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
> > effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> > cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> > same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77
> to
> > 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> > hasn?t changed - yet.
> >
> > Jonmac
> >
> > Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the
> > world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined
> study
> > full of titles that are all illegible?
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
> > From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> > To: [email-masked]
> > Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> > Message-ID: <[email-masked]> <
> [email-masked]>
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> > Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my
> > life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
> >
> >
> > On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
> >
> >
> > A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US
> > gallon there this afternoon.
> >
> [email-masked]> <[email-masked]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> >
> >     ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> >     A little man who wasn't there,
> >     He wasn't there again today
> >     Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> >
> >     On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]
> >
> >     ?
> >     I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
> >     ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
> >     that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
> >     4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
> >     pricing faster than the US midwest.
> >
> >     Don
> >
> >     On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
> [email-masked]>> wrote:
> >
> >         I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
> >         today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
> >         half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
> >         where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
> >         with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
> >         litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> >         cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
> >         passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
> >         morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
> >         Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
> >
> >         Jonmac
> >
> >         Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed?
> >         showing the world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you
> >         have a book-lined study full of titles that are all illegible?
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT)
> From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
> To: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked]>,
>         [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
> Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> Good question.  Many restored TRs have unpainted fasteners and are not
> usually faulted during judging at shows.  Everything was painted from the
> factory, because the bodies were painted fully assembled (minus the front
> apron).  They were even primed, red oxide, assembled.  When a car that was
> original is disassembled, there is primer behind the apron, but no paint
> where areas can't be reached once the apron had been installed.  So, there
> was no paint or primer under the washers or door hinges or between the
> fenders and tub.  Dumb dumb was used as sealer, gasket material between the
> fenders (wings) and the tub.
> I painted everything disassembled and carefully painted the fasteners
> separately too,  when I restored my TR3.  The car had never been apart
> before.  I paid close attention and photo documented every detail during
> disassembly.  I was able to assemble the body without chipping the paint on
> the fasteners too much, then did a little touch up later.  Installing the
> fender beading after the paint was applied at the factory seems
> challenging, but perhaps certain fasteners were left loose.  Like the three
> bolts below the tail lights and screws along the truck lid and the two
> under the scuttle/cowl panel for the front fenders.
> Good luck with your TR2.
> Dave H.
>
> >     On 03/26/2022 11:40 PM Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >     Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
> >
> >     Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about
> under the bonnet (hood in USA)
> >
> >     Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from
> the scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6
> each side)  and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if they
> were just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or
> unpainted & cadmium plated?
> >
> >     I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running
> again & I have done a few miles and everything has settled  I will need to
> go round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If I do
> need to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the hex sides
> of the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them when I put the
> socket onto them?
> >
> >     All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
> >
> >     Alan
> >
> >     TS3612
> >
> >     AW & LJ Dunscombe
> >     New Zealand
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> > >            1. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (bill beecher)
> > >            2. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Don Hiscock)
> > >            3. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Patrick Baize)
> > >            4. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Sujit Roy)
> > >            5. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (Rye Livingston)
> > >            6. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (DAVID MASSEY)
> > >            7. Re: Refuelling a Spitfire (John Innis)
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> > >         Message: 1
> > >         Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600
> > >         From: bill beecher <[email-masked]> mailto:
> [email-masked]
> > >         To: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> mailto:
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> > >         Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> mailto:
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> > >          <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> > >         Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> > >         Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
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> > >
> > >         Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> > >
> > >         ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> > >         A little man who wasn't there,
> > >         He wasn't there again today
> > >         Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> > >
> > >         On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <
> [email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
> > >
> > >         ?
> > >         I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and
> paid ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I
> did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in
> January!   California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US
> midwest.
> > >
> > >         Don
> > >
> > >         On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <
> [email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >             > > >
> > > >             I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days
> and today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full.
> Toured around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel
> might be available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon
> is effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
> 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> hasn?t changed - yet.
> > > >
> > > >             Jonmac
> > > >
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> > >         Message: 2
> > >         Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
> > >         From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> mailto:
> [email-masked]
> > >         To: bill beecher <[email-masked]> mailto:
> [email-masked]
> > >         Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> mailto:
> [email-masked], Triumphs list
> > >          <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> > >         Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> > >         Message-ID:
> > >          <CAPK7CFD=
> [email-masked]> mailto:CAPK7CFD
> =[email-masked]
> > >         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > >         A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of
> $9.73/US gallon
> > >         there this afternoon.
> > >
> > >         On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <
> [email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >             > > >
> > > >             Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> > > >
> > > >             ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> > > >             A little man who wasn't there,
> > > >             He wasn't there again today
> > > >             Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> > > >
> > > >             On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <
> [email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
> > > >
> > > >             ?
> > > >             I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states
> and paid ?0.80/L
> > > >             ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
> that I did a driving
> > > >             trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles
> -- in January!
> > > >             California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than
> the US midwest.
> > > >
> > > >             Don
> > > >
> > > >             On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <
> [email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> > > >             wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >                 > > > >
> > > > >                 I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last
> ten days and today
> > > > >                 decided to top off the tank, even though it was
> still half full. Toured
> > > > >                 around the local gas stations to find out where
> the cheapest fuel might be
> > > > >                 available. To compare like with like and
> remembering one US gallon is
> > > > >                 effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the
> litre in the U.K.) the
> > > > >                 cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just
> after lunch I passed the
> > > > >                 same gas station where the price I paid this
> morning had risen from 8.77 to
> > > > >                 9..12.  Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint
> of my favourite beer
> > > > >                 hasn?t changed - yet.
> > > > >
> > > > >                 Jonmac
> > > > >
> > > > >                 Is the latest definition of being ?learned and
> well-informed? showing the
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> > >         Message: 3
> > >         Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
> > >         From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]> mailto:
> [email-masked]
> > >         To: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> > >         Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> > >         Message-ID: <[email-masked]>
> mailto:[email-masked]
> > >         Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
> > >
> > >         Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first
> time in my
> > >         life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
> > >
> > >
> > >         On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >             > > >
> > > >             A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent
> of $9.73/US
> > > >             gallon there this afternoon.
> > > >
> > > >             On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <
> [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                 Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> > > >
> > > >                 ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> > > >                 A little man who wasn't there,
> > > >                 He wasn't there again today
> > > >                 Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> > > >
> > > >                 On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <
> [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                 ?
> > > >                 I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between
> states and paid
> > > >                 ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh
> of relief
> > > >                 that I did a driving trip from Missouri to
> California and back --
> > > >                 4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the
> UK's way on
> > > >                 pricing faster than the US midwest.
> > > >
> > > >                 Don
> > > >
> > > >                 On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
> > > >                 <[email-masked] mailto:
> [email-masked]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >                     I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last
> ten days and
> > > >                     today decided to top off the tank, even though
> it was still
> > > >                     half full. Toured around the local gas stations
> to find out
> > > >                     where the cheapest fuel might be available. To
> compare like
> > > >                     with like and remembering one US gallon is
> effectively 3.8
> > > >                     litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the
> U.K.) the
> > > >                     cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just
> after lunch I
> > > >                     passed the same gas station where the price I
> paid this
> > > >                     morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was
> even more!
> > > >                     Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t
> changed - yet.
> > > >
> > > >                     Jonmac
> > > >
> > > >                     Is the latest definition of being ?learned and
> well-informed?
> > > >                     showing the world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom?
> meetings that you
> > > >                     have a book-lined study full of titles that are
> all illegible?
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 03:59:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>,  John
	Finlayson <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 15, Issue 39

 ill see you and raise you.i paid 6.22 US$/US gallon yesterday in temecula california
frankwilting?
    On Sunday, March 27, 2022, 07:43:06 PM PDT, John Finlayson <[email-masked]> wrote:  
 
 I am from Vancouver BC? Canada. I am told we have the highest gas prices in North America. Currently the price for regular (87 Octane) is about $2 CAD/liter. My last fill up for the Honda was $1.95 CAD/liter. $1.95 CAD = $1.52 USD x 3.785 liters/US Gal? = $5.76 USD/US Gal..... I haven't filled up the TR4 recently but I put 93 octane in it which will cost a lot more.
John Finlayson
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? ?2. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (DAVID MASSEY)
? ?3. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (dave northrup)
? ?4. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (Don Hiscock)
? ?5. Re: Front Fender bolt heads (Jeff Scarbrough)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 19:40:51 +1300
From: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads

Alright, here's a question for the archivists...

Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under 
the bonnet (hood in USA)

Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the 
scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6 
each side) and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if 
they were just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or 
unpainted & cadmium plated?

I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running 
again & I have done a few miles and everything has settled I will need 
to go round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If 
I do need to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the 
hex sides of the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them 
when I put the socket onto them?

All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.

Alan

TS3612

AW&? LJ Dunscombe
New Zealand

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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600
> From: bill beecher<[email-masked]>
> To: Don Hiscock<[email-masked]>
> Cc: John Macartney<[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
>? ? ? ?<[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> A little man who wasn't there,
> He wasn't there again today
> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
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> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock<[email-masked]>? wrote:
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> ?
> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!? ?California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
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> Don
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>> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12.? Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
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>> Jonmac
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
> From: Don Hiscock<[email-masked]>
> To: bill beecher<[email-masked]>
> Cc: John Macartney<[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
>? ? ? ?<[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon
> there this afternoon.
>
> On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher<[email-masked]>? wrote:
>
>? ? 
>> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>>
>> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
>> A little man who wasn't there,
>> He wasn't there again today
>> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock<[email-masked]>? wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
>> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
>> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
>> California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
>>
>> Don
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney<[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>? ? ? 
>>> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
>>> decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
>>> around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
>>> available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
>>> effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
>>> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
>>> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
>>> 9..12.? Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
>>> hasn?t changed - yet.
>>>
>>> Jonmac
>>>
>>> Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the
>>> world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined study
>>> full of titles that are all illegible?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
> From: Patrick Baize<[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
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> Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my
> life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
>
>
> On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
>? ? 
>> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US
>> gallon there this afternoon.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher<[email-masked]
>>
>>? ? ? Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>>
>>? ? ? ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
>>? ? ? A little man who wasn't there,
>>? ? ? He wasn't there again today
>>? ? ? Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
>>
>>? ? ? On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock<[email-masked]
>>
>>? ? ? ?
>>? ? ? I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
>>? ? ? ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
>>? ? ? that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
>>? ? ? 4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
>>? ? ? pricing faster than the US midwest.
>>
>>? ? ? Don
>>
>>? ? ? On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
>>
>>? ? ? ? ? I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
>>? ? ? ? ? today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
>>? ? ? ? ? half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
>>? ? ? ? ? where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
>>? ? ? ? ? with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
>>? ? ? ? ? litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
>>? ? ? ? ? cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
>>? ? ? ? ? passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
>>? ? ? ? ? morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
>>? ? ? ? ? Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
>>
>>? ? ? ? ? Jonmac
>>
>>? ? ? ? ? Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed?
>>? ? ? ? ? showing the world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you
>>? ? ? ? ? have a book-lined study full of titles that are all illegible?
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:41:57 +0000 (UTC)
From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>,
? ? ? ? "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads

?I seem to recall that they are painted body colour (ie: the body was assembled before painting).? When I assembled my car I used stainless steel fasteners and and left them unpainted.? The appearance is striking with the shimmering screw heads (which will remain shiny forever more) but I'll bet it will be points off in a concours.
I rather doubt they will need re-torquing if they are sufficiently snugged up during initial assembly.? I never had any issues.
Enjoy the activity.

Dave 

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 1:40 am
Subject: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads

? <!--#yiv3646312549 _filtered {} _filtered {}#yiv3646312549 #yiv3646312549 p.yiv3646312549MsoNormal, #yiv3646312549 li.yiv3646312549MsoNormal, #yiv3646312549 div.yiv3646312549MsoNormal {margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:10.0pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:115%;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri", "sans-serif";}#yiv3646312549 .yiv3646312549MsoChpDefault {}#yiv3646312549 .yiv3646312549MsoPapDefault {margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;} _filtered {}#yiv3646312549 div.yiv3646312549Section1 {}-->Alright,here's a question for the archivists... Amabout to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need adviceabout under the bonnet (hood in USA) Wherethe front guards/fenders are bolted onto the innerguards from the scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the headsof the bolts(6 each side) ?and washer underneath arevisible. Anyone know for sure if they were just painted in the bodycolour alongwith everything else, or unpainted & cadmium plated?? Iassume they were painted, and i
?magine that once the car isrunning again & I have done a few miles and everything has settled ?I will need to go round all those bolts andcheck if they need tightening again. If I do need to tighten them thenI willprobably damage the paint on the hex sides of the bolts unless there issometrick way to protect them when I put the socket onto them? Allthoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted. Alan TS3612 AW & LJ Dunscombe
New Zealand

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600
From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
To: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
? ? ? ? <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire

Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas. 

?Last night I saw upon the stair,
A little man who wasn't there,
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns

On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> wrote:

?
I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!? ?California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest. 

Don

On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]> wrote:

?I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12.? Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.

Jonmac

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
To: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
? ? ? ? <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
Message-ID:
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A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon
there this afternoon.

On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]> wrote:

?Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.

?Last night I saw upon the stair,
A little man who wasn't there,
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns

On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> wrote:

?
I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.

Don

On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]>
wrote:

?I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
9..12.? Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
hasn?t changed - yet.

Jonmac

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire

Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my 
life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon

On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:

?A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US 
gallon there this afternoon.

On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked] 

? ? Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.

? ? ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
? ? A little man who wasn't there,
? ? He wasn't there again today
? ? Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns

? ? On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]

? ? ?
? ? I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
? ? ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
? ? that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
? ? 4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
? ? pricing faster than the US midwest.

? ? Don

? ? On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney

? ? ? ? I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
? ? ? ? today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
? ? ? ? half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
? ? ? ? where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
? ? ? ? with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
? ? ? ? litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
? ? ? ? cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
? ? ? ? passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
? ? ? ? morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
? ? ? ? Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.

? ? ? ? Jonmac

? ? ? ? Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed?
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 14:52:33 +0000
From: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads

Yes, body color.? And I believe you can get sockets with coated insides.? Or just be really careful and don?t lean into it

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of DAVID MASSEY
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 8:42 AM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads

I seem to recall that they are painted body colour (ie: the body was assembled before painting).? When I assembled my car I used stainless steel fasteners and and left them unpainted.? The appearance is striking with the shimmering screw heads (which will remain shiny forever more) but I'll bet it will be points off in a concours.

I rather doubt they will need re-torquing if they are sufficiently snugged up during initial assembly.? I never had any issues.

Enjoy the activity.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 1:40 am
Subject: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under the bonnet (hood in USA)
Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6 each side)? and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if they were just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or unpainted & cadmium plated?
I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running again & I have done a few miles and everything has settled? I will need to go round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If I do need to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the hex sides of the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them when I put the socket onto them?
All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
Alan
TS3612

AW & LJ Dunscombe

New Zealand

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Message: 1

Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600

Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire

Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.

?Last night I saw upon the stair,

A little man who wasn't there,

He wasn't there again today

Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns

?

I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!? ?California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.

Don

I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12.? Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.

Jonmac

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Message: 2

Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500

Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire

Message-ID:

A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon

there this afternoon.

Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.

?Last night I saw upon the stair,

A little man who wasn't there,

He wasn't there again today

Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns

?

I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L

($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving

trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!

California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.

Don

wrote:

I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today

decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured

around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be

available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is

effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the

cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the

same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to

9..12.? Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer

hasn?t changed - yet.

Jonmac

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Message: 3

Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600

Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire

Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my

life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon

On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:

A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US

gallon there this afternoon.

? ? Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.

? ? ?Last night I saw upon the stair,

? ? A little man who wasn't there,

? ? He wasn't there again today

? ? Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns

? ? ?

? ? I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid

? ? ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief

? ? that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --

? ? 4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on

? ? pricing faster than the US midwest.

? ? Don

? ? On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney

? ? ? ? I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and

? ? ? ? today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still

? ? ? ? half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out

? ? ? ? where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like

? ? ? ? with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8

? ? ? ? litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the

? ? ? ? cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I

? ? ? ? passed the same gas station where the price I paid this

? ? ? ? morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!

? ? ? ? Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.

? ? ? ? Jonmac

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 10:10:25 -0500
From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]>
To: dave northrup <[email-masked]>
Cc: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
Message-ID:
? ? ? ? <[email-masked]>

Definitely body color.? Here's an underbonnet photo of an
unrestored long-door TR2:

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 9:52 AM dave northrup <[email-masked]> wrote:

> Yes, body color.? And I believe you can get sockets with coated insides.
> Or just be really careful and don?t lean into it
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *DAVID
> MASSEY
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 27, 2022 8:42 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
>
>
>
> I seem to recall that they are painted body colour (ie: the body was
> assembled before painting).? When I assembled my car I used stainless steel
> fasteners and and left them unpainted.? The appearance is striking with the
> shimmering screw heads (which will remain shiny forever more) but I'll bet
> it will be points off in a concours.
>
>
>
> I rather doubt they will need re-torquing if they are sufficiently snugged
> up during initial assembly.? I never had any issues.
>
>
>
> Enjoy the activity.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Sent: Sun, Mar 27, 2022 1:40 am
> Subject: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
>
> Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
>
> Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under the
> bonnet (hood in USA)
>
> Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the
> scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6 each
> side)? and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if they were
> just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or unpainted &
> cadmium plated?
>
> I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running again
> & I have done a few miles and everything has settled? I will need to go
> round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If I do need
> to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the hex sides of
> the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them when I put the
> socket onto them?
>
> All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
>
> Alan
>
> TS3612
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> AW & LJ Dunscombe
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> New Zealand
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600
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> From: bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> To: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
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>? ?<[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
>
>
> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
>
> A little man who wasn't there,
>
> He wasn't there again today
>
> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
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>
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> ?
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> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!? ?California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
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>
>
> Don
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>
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>
>
> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12.? Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
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> Message: 2
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
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> From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
>
> To: bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
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>? ?<[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon
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> there this afternoon.
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>
>
> On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
>
>
> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
>
> A little man who wasn't there,
>
> He wasn't there again today
>
> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
>
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
>
> ?
>
> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
>
> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
>
> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
>
> California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
>
> decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
>
> around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
>
> available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
>
> effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
>
> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
>
> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
>
> 9..12.? Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
>
> hasn?t changed - yet.
>
>
>
> Jonmac
>
>
>
> Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the
>
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>
> full of titles that are all illegible?
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> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
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> From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> To: [email-masked]
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> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
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> Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my
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> life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
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> On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
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> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US
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> On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]
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>? ? ?Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
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>? ? ??Last night I saw upon the stair,
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>? ? ?A little man who wasn't there,
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>? ? ?He wasn't there again today
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>? ? ?Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
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>? ? ?On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]
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>? ? ??
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>? ? ?I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
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>? ? ??0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
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>? ? ?that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
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>? ? ?4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
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>? ? ?pricing faster than the US midwest.
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>? ? ?Don
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>? ? ?On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
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>? ? ? ? ?I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
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>? ? ? ? ?today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
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>? ? ? ? ?half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
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>? ? ? ? ?where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
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>? ? ? ? ?with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
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>? ? ? ? ?litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
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>? ? ? ? ?cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
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>? ? ? ? ?passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
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>? ? ? ? ?morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
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>? ? ? ? ?Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 11:48:05 -0400
From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
To: "Alan & Lyn Dunscombe" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "Triumphs ([email-masked])" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads
Message-ID:
? ? ? ? <[email-masked]>

Not just the bolts, but the unpainted portion of the fender or washer that
was under the bolt before you turned it.? Two thoughts: Did the factory
never needed to tighten them? and You will probably have to re-spray the
bolts of you do wind up moving them.

You might have success if you protect the flats with blue painters tape to
test for tightness, but once it moves I don't see any solution that doesn't
involve more paint.

-- Jeff

On Sun, Mar 27, 2022, 02:41 Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
>
> Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under the
> bonnet (hood in USA)
>
> Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the
> scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6 each
> side)? and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if they
> were just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or
> unpainted & cadmium plated?
>
> I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running again
> & I have done a few miles and everything has settled? I will need to go
> round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If I do need
> to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the hex sides of
> the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them when I put the
> socket onto them?
>
> All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
>
> Alan
>
> TS3612
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> AW & LJ Dunscombe
> New Zealand
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:07:35 -0600
> From: bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> To: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
>? ? ? ?<[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> Message-ID: <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
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> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> A little man who wasn't there,
> He wasn't there again today
> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
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> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> ?
> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!? ?California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
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> Don
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> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12.? Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
>
> Jonmac
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
> From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> To: bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>, Triumphs list
>? ? ? ?<[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> Message-ID:
>? ? ? ?<CAPK7CFD=[email-masked]> <CAPK7CFD=[email-masked]>
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> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon
> there this afternoon.
>
> On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
> ?Last night I saw upon the stair,
> A little man who wasn't there,
> He wasn't there again today
> Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
>
> On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> ?
> I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
> trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
> California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
>
> Don
>
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
> decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
> around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
> available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
> effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
> 9..12.? Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> hasn?t changed - yet.
>
> Jonmac
>
> Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed? showing the
> world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you have a book-lined study
> full of titles that are all illegible?
> ** [email-masked] **
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
> From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> Message-ID: <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my
> life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
>
>
> On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
>
>
> A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US
> gallon there this afternoon.
>
>
>? ? ?Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
>
>? ? ??Last night I saw upon the stair,
>? ? ?A little man who wasn't there,
>? ? ?He wasn't there again today
>? ? ?Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
>
>? ? ?On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]
>
>? ? ??
>? ? ?I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
>? ? ??0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
>? ? ?that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
>? ? ?4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
>? ? ?pricing faster than the US midwest.
>
>? ? ?Don
>
>? ? ?On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
>
>? ? ? ? ?I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
>? ? ? ? ?today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
>? ? ? ? ?half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
>? ? ? ? ?where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
>? ? ? ? ?with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
>? ? ? ? ?litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
>? ? ? ? ?cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
>? ? ? ? ?passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
>? ? ? ? ?morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
>? ? ? ? ?Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
>
>? ? ? ? ?Jonmac
>
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>? ? ? ? ?have a book-lined study full of titles that are all illegible?
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
To: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked]>,
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Subject: Re: [TR] Front Fender bolt heads

Good question.? Many restored TRs have unpainted fasteners and are not usually faulted during judging at shows.? Everything was painted from the factory, because the bodies were painted fully assembled (minus the front apron).? They were even primed, red oxide, assembled.? When a car that was original is disassembled, there is primer behind the apron, but no paint where areas can't be reached once the apron had been installed.? So, there was no paint or primer under the washers or door hinges or between the fenders and tub.? Dumb dumb was used as sealer, gasket material between the fenders (wings) and the tub.? 
I painted everything disassembled and carefully painted the fasteners separately too,? when I restored my TR3.? The car had never been apart before.? I paid close attention and photo documented every detail during disassembly.? I was able to assemble the body without chipping the paint on the fasteners too much, then did a little touch up later.? Installing the fender beading after the paint was applied at the factory seems challenging, but perhaps certain fasteners were left loose.? Like the three bolts below the tail lights and screws along the truck lid and the two under the scuttle/cowl panel for the front fenders.? 
Good luck with your TR2.
Dave H.

>? ? ?On 03/26/2022 11:40 PM Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>? ? ?Alright, here's a question for the archivists...
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>? ? ?Am about to get my 'Longdoor' TR2 painted, and need advice about under the bonnet (hood in USA)
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>? ? ?Where the front guards/fenders are bolted onto the inner guards from the scuttle/firewall forward to the front apron, the heads of the bolts (6 each side)? and washer underneath are visible. Anyone know for sure if they were just painted in the body colour along with everything else, or unpainted & cadmium plated?
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>? ? ?I assume they were painted, and imagine that once the car is running again & I have done a few miles and everything has settled? I will need to go round all those bolts and check if they need tightening again. If I do need to tighten them then I will probably damage the paint on the hex sides of the bolts unless there is some trick way to protect them when I put the socket onto them?
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>? ? ?All thoughts / suggestions gratefully accepted.
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>? ? ?Alan
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>? ? ?AW & LJ Dunscombe
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> >? ? ? ? ?Message: 2
> >? ? ? ? ?Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:06:43 -0500
> >? ? ? ? ?From: Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> >? ? ? ? ?To: bill beecher <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> >? ? ? ? ?Cc: John Macartney <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked], Triumphs list
> >? ? ? ? ? <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> >? ? ? ? ?Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> >? ? ? ? ?Message-ID:
> >? ? ? ? ? <CAPK7CFD=[email-masked]> mailto:CAPK7CFD=[email-masked]
> >? ? ? ? ?Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> >? ? ? ? ?A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US gallon
> >? ? ? ? ?there this afternoon.
> > 
> >? ? ? ? ?On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
> > 
> >? ? ? ? ? ?
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> >? ? ? ? ? ? ?> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ??Last night I saw upon the stair,
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?A little man who wasn't there,
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?He wasn't there again today
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked] wrote:
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ??
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid ?0.80/L
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief that I did a driving
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?trip from Missouri to California and back -- 4700 miles -- in January!
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?California is headed the UK's way on pricing faster than the US midwest.
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?Don
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?wrote:
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?> > > > 
> > > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and today
> > > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?decided to top off the tank, even though it was still half full. Toured
> > > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?around the local gas stations to find out where the cheapest fuel might be
> > > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?available. To compare like with like and remembering one US gallon is
> > > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?effectively 3.8 litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> > > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I passed the
> > > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?same gas station where the price I paid this morning had risen from 8.77 to
> > > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?9..12.? Diesel was even more! Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer
> > > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?hasn?t changed - yet.
> > > > 
> > > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Jonmac
> > > > 
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> >? ? ? ? ?Message: 3
> >? ? ? ? ?Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:14:47 -0600
> >? ? ? ? ?From: Patrick Baize <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> >? ? ? ? ?To: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> >? ? ? ? ?Subject: Re: [TR] Refuelling a Spitfire
> >? ? ? ? ?Message-ID: <[email-masked]> mailto:[email-masked]
> >? ? ? ? ?Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
> > 
> >? ? ? ? ?Australia (my wifes cousins ) is at 10.00 per gallon ? first time in my 
> >? ? ? ? ?life I paid 105.34? for gas 3.999 a gallon
> > 
> > 
> >? ? ? ? ?On 3/10/2022 9:06 PM, Don Hiscock wrote:
> >? ? ? ? ? ?
> > 
> >? ? ? ? ? ? ?> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?A TR friend in the Netherlands reported the equivalent of $9.73/US 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?gallon there this afternoon.
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ?On Thursday, March 10, 2022, bill beecher <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] 
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Just topped up yesterday at $3.76gal USD in Texas.
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??Last night I saw upon the stair,
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?A little man who wasn't there,
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?He wasn't there again today
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Oh, how I wish he'd go away?.... Mearns
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?On Mar 10, 2022, at 12:58 PM, Don Hiscock <[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I bought fuel twice yesterday travelling between states and paid
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??0.80/L ($3.999/US gal) in Ohio. And breathed a sigh of relief
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?that I did a driving trip from Missouri to California and back --
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?4700 miles -- in January! California is headed the UK's way on
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?pricing faster than the US midwest.
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Don
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM John Macartney
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I?ve been using a friends Spitfire for the last ten days and
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?today decided to top off the tank, even though it was still
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?half full. Toured around the local gas stations to find out
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?where the cheapest fuel might be available. To compare like
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?with like and remembering one US gallon is effectively 3.8
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?litres (gas is only sold by the litre in the U.K.) the
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?cheapest was one US gallon cost USD 8.77. Just after lunch I
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?passed the same gas station where the price I paid this
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?morning had risen from 8.77 to 9..12. Diesel was even more!
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Thankfully, a pint of my favourite beer hasn?t changed - yet.
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Jonmac
> > > 
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Is the latest definition of being ?learned and well-informed?
> > >? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?showing the world on your ?Teams? and ?Zoom? meetings that you
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