Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing u-joint: loose caps in yoke

From: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 22:51:22 +0000

Cliff

I had that same issue on my TR6, I wound up just getting replacement half shafts.  I would not try loctite, but maybe a driveshaft company is near you that could get it back to an interference fit.  In my case I didn’t have any local place to try so went the replacement route.

Randy

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Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 08:42:05 -0700 (PDT)

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If you check a Triumph repair manual, the method of replacing the u-joint i=
s by holding the yoke in your hand and tapping the shaft with a soft mallet=
.  Of course the retaining clips are removed.  The caps should come out fai=
rly easily.  The interference between the cap and yoke is minimal.  I've us=
ed this method and was surprised of the ease.  I'd always pressed or used a=
 more aggressive process in the past.  However, the yoke can wear and then =
the caps start to rotate, causing more wear.  Then the yoke should be repla=
ced.  It's a good idea to index the caps with paint or something, to monito=
r if they rotate.  Then it's easy to check when your greasing the driveline=
 and inspecting the u-joints.  In any case, have your drive shaft checked b=
y an expert when in doubt.
Dave H.=20

>     On 09/06/2021 2:13 PM Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]> wrote:
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>     I=E2=80=99m replacing u-joints in the rear axles (TR4A). On one end I=
 can slip two of the caps in by hand (one on the flange, one on the yoke).
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>     Anyone here think I could get by here with some Loctite or similar to=
 hold the cap in place?  Or am I looking for a replacement axle?
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>     This is not a track car, but I prioritize reliability.
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>     Thanks,
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>     Cliff
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   <span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">If you check a =
Triumph repair manual, the method of replacing the u-joint is by holding th=
e yoke in your hand and tapping the shaft with a soft mallet.&nbsp; Of cour=
se the retaining clips are removed.&nbsp; The caps should come out fairly e=
asily.&nbsp; The interference between the cap and yoke is minimal.&nbsp; I'=
ve used this method and was surprised of the ease.&nbsp; I'd always pressed=
 or used a more aggressive process in the past.&nbsp; However, the yoke can=
 wear and then the caps start to rotate, causing more wear.&nbsp; Then the =
yoke should be replaced.&nbsp; It's a good idea to index the caps with pain=
t or something, to monitor if they rotate.&nbsp; Then it's easy to check wh=
en your greasing the driveline and inspecting the u-joints.&nbsp; In any ca=
se, have your drive shaft checked by an expert when in doubt.</span>
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi list,</p>
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m replacing u-joints in the rear axles=
 (TR4A). On one end I can slip two of the caps in by hand (one on the flang=
e, one on the yoke).</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Anyone here think I could get by here with some =
Loctite or similar to hold the cap in place?&nbsp; Or am I looking for a re=
placement axle?</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is not a track car, but I prioritize reliab=
ility.</p>
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cliff</p>
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Might want to have the driveshaft balanced

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of DAVE HOGYE
Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2021 10:42 AM
To: Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]>; list Triumph =
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Subject: Re: [TR] Replacing u-joint: loose caps in yoke

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If you check a Triumph repair manual, the method of replacing the =
u-joint is by holding the yoke in your hand and tapping the shaft with a =
soft mallet.  Of course the retaining clips are removed.  The caps =
should come out fairly easily.  The interference between the cap and =
yoke is minimal.  I've used this method and was surprised of the ease.  =
I'd always pressed or used a more aggressive process in the past.  =
However, the yoke can wear and then the caps start to rotate, causing =
more wear.  Then the yoke should be replaced.  It's a good idea to index =
the caps with paint or something, to monitor if they rotate.  Then it's =
easy to check when your greasing the driveline and inspecting the =
u-joints.  In any case, have your drive shaft checked by an expert when =
in doubt.=20

Dave H. =20

On 09/06/2021 2:13 PM Cliff Hansen <[email-masked] =

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Hi list,

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I=E2=80=99m replacing u-joints in the rear axles (TR4A). On one end I =
can slip two of the caps in by hand (one on the flange, one on the =
yoke).

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Anyone here think I could get by here with some Loctite or similar to =
hold the cap in place?  Or am I looking for a replacement axle?

=20

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Thanks,

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Cliff

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Might want to have the =
driveshaft balanced<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVE =
HOGYE<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 7, 2021 10:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
Cliff Hansen &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; list Triumph =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Replacing =
u-joint: loose caps in yoke<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>If you check a Triumph repair manual, the method of replacing the =
u-joint is by holding the yoke in your hand and tapping the shaft with a =
soft mallet.&nbsp; Of course the retaining clips are removed.&nbsp; The =
caps should come out fairly easily.&nbsp; The interference between the =
cap and yoke is minimal.&nbsp; I've used this method and was surprised =
of the ease.&nbsp; I'd always pressed or used a more aggressive process =
in the past.&nbsp; However, the yoke can wear and then the caps start to =
rotate, causing more wear.&nbsp; Then the yoke should be replaced.&nbsp; =
It's a good idea to index the caps with paint or something, to monitor =
if they rotate.&nbsp; Then it's easy to check when your greasing the =
driveline and inspecting the u-joints.&nbsp; In any case, have your =
drive shaft checked by an expert when in doubt. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#33333=
3'>Dave H.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 09/06/2021 2:13 PM Cliff Hansen &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi =
list,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I=E2=80=99m =
replacing u-joints in the rear axles (TR4A). On one end I can slip two =
of the caps in by hand (one on the flange, one on the =
yoke).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Anyone here =
think I could get by here with some Loctite or similar to hold the cap =
in place?&nbsp; Or am I looking for a replacement axle?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This is not =
a track car, but I prioritize reliability.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 17:42:38 -0400

I've made shims with beer cans before, but it's probably not as good
as a proper yoke replacement.  I can't remember if it lasted very long
or not.

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 5:14 PM Cliff Hansen <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
> Hi list,
>
>
>
> I’m replacing u-joints in the rear axles (TR4A). On one end I can slip two of the caps in by hand (one on the flange, one on the yoke).
>
>
>
> Anyone here think I could get by here with some Loctite or similar to hold the cap in place?  Or am I looking for a replacement axle?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows
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