Subject: Re: [TR] Stuck Oil Pan

From: bill beecher <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 15:12:19 -0500

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My formula for the stamped pieces, oil pan & timing chain cover, is to use R=
TV on the pan side after a bit of smoothing the bolt holes.  Then the gasket=
, followed by Permatex Aviation against the block, works a treat, easy off. =
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All the best,
Bill B
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On Sep 13, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Peter Arakelian <[email-masked]> wrote:

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> I installed the oil pan on my TR3 using "The Right Stuff." I now find I ne=
ed to remove my oil pan. Anyone have any ideas on "creative ways" to remove t=
he oil pan without destroying it?
=20
Why I never use and hate Right Stuff.  When you do get the pan off it will b=
e a bitch getting the surfaces clean.  Use Hylomar next time.
=20
Peter Arakelian
1971 TR6

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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">My formula for the stamped pieces, oil pan &=
amp; timing chain cover, is to use RTV on the pan side after a bit of smooth=
ing the bolt holes. &nbsp;Then the gasket, followed by Permatex Aviation aga=
inst the block, works a treat, easy off. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>All the b=
est,</div><div>Bill B</div><div>TS30800L</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">=
<span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Last night I saw u=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; I installed the oil pan on my TR3 using "The Rig=
ht Stuff." I now find I need to remove my oil pan. Anyone have any ideas on "=
creative ways" to remove the oil pan without destroying it?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Why I never use and hate Right Stuff.&nbsp; When you d=
o get the pan off it will be a bitch getting the surfaces clean.&nbsp; Use H=
ylomar next time.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Peter Arakelian<o:p></o:p></p>
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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 17:17:02 -0400

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y experience at all. Yes a bit tough to remove (in my case the timing chain=
 cover) but everything cleaned well using a single edge razor blade and som=
e solvent. I had leaks with Hylomar but very limited leaks with The Right S=
tuff after 2 years. As they say your results may be different but I=E2=80=
=99m never changing back to anything else. I also used it on my transmissio=
n rebuild and on the OD adapter plate which always leaked in the past. Agai=
n after 2 years very little leakage and that=E2=80=99s an accomplishment on=
 a TR. I=E2=80=99ve been at this gig for almost 53 years and happy to have =
found something that works for me. </p><p class=3DMsoNormal>JVV</p><p class=
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href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Peter Arakelian</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday=
, September 13, 2021 2:11 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox=
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n</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&=
gt; I installed the oil pan on my TR3 using &quot;The Right Stuff.&quot; I =
now find I need to remove my oil pan. Anyone have any ideas on &quot;creati=
ve ways&quot; to remove the oil pan without destroying it?<o:p></o:p></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Why I never us=
e and hate Right Stuff.&nbsp; When you do get the pan off it will be a bitc=
h getting the surfaces clean.&nbsp; Use Hylomar next time.<o:p></o:p></p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Peter Arakelia=
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 23:35:54 +0000 (UTC)

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 i second the use of hylomar.i use a silicone (permatex) to first "glue the=
 gasket to pan. one the gasket is mated to the pan i set it down on a flat =
surface like glass and leave it overnight. i find that this takes up any of=
 the undulations of the pan.i then use hylomar between the adhered gasket a=
nd the motor.i use a a couple of all thread studs about 2" long each side o=
f the motor as temporary guides to help bring the pan into the correct plac=
e.
Frank

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[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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> I installed the oil pan on my TR3 using "The Right Stuff." I now find I n=
eed to remove my oil pan. Anyone have any ideas on "creative ways" to remov=
e the oil pan without destroying it?
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Why I never use and hate Right Stuff.=C2=A0 When you do get the pan off it =
will be a bitch getting the surfaces clean.=C2=A0 Use Hylomar next time.
=20
 =C2=A0
=20
Peter Arakelian
=20
1971 TR6
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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">i second the use of hylomar.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">i use a silicone (permatex) to first "glue the gasket to pan. one the gasket is mated to the pan i set it down on a flat surface like glass and leave it overnight. i find that this takes up any of the undulations of the pan.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">i then use hylomar between the adhered gasket and the motor.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">i use a a couple of all thread studs about 2" long each side of the motor as temporary guides to help bring the pan into the correct place.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Frank</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
        
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<p class="ydpd1699b32yiv1796544274MsoNormal">&gt; I installed the oil pan on my TR3 using "The Right Stuff." I now find I need to remove my oil pan. Anyone have any ideas on "creative ways" to remove the oil pan without destroying it?</p> 
<p class="ydpd1699b32yiv1796544274MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p> 
<p class="ydpd1699b32yiv1796544274MsoNormal">Why I never use and hate Right Stuff.&nbsp; When you do get the pan off it will be a bitch getting the surfaces clean.&nbsp; Use Hylomar next time.</p> 
<p class="ydpd1699b32yiv1796544274MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p> 
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Thanks, Frank. Hindsight is often 20/20. I know what to do in
the future, I'm just not sure what to do in the present...

Dave

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 7:36 PM Frank Fisher <[email-masked]> wrote:

> i second the use of hylomar.
> i use a silicone (permatex) to first "glue the gasket to pan. one the
> gasket is mated to the pan i set it down on a flat surface like glass and
> leave it overnight. i find that this takes up any of the undulations of the
> pan.
> i then use hylomar between the adhered gasket and the motor.
> i use a a couple of all thread studs about 2" long each side of the motor
> as temporary guides to help bring the pan into the correct place.
>
> Frank
>
>
>
> On Monday, September 13, 2021, 11:11:37 AM PDT, Peter Arakelian <
> [email-masked]> wrote:
>
>
> > I installed the oil pan on my TR3 using "The Right Stuff." I now find I
> need to remove my oil pan. Anyone have any ideas on "creative ways" to
> remove the oil pan without destroying it?
>
>
>
> Why I never use and hate Right Stuff.  When you do get the pan off it will
> be a bitch getting the surfaces clean.  Use Hylomar next time.
>
>
>
> Peter Arakelian
>
> 1971 TR6
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Thanks, Frank. Hindsight is=
 often 20/20. I know what to do in=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099=
">the future, I&#39;m just not sure what to do in the present...</div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-=
size:large;color:#000099"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Dave</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr=
">On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 7:36 PM Frank Fisher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:yellow=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
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etica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">i second the use of hylomar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>i use a silicone (permatex) to first &quot;glue the gasket to pan. one the=
 gasket is mated to the pan i set it down on a flat surface like glass and =
leave it overnight. i find that this takes up any of the undulations of the=
 pan.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">i then use hylomar between the adhered gasket a=
nd the motor.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">i use a a couple of all thread studs ab=
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; I now find I need to remove my oil pan. Anyone have any ideas on &quot;cr=
eative ways&quot; to remove the oil pan without destroying it?</p>=20
<p> =C2=A0</p>=20
<p>Why I never use and hate Right Stuff.=C2=A0 When you do get the pan off =
it will be a bitch getting the surfaces clean.=C2=A0 Use Hylomar next time.=
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 i know.the only thing i can think of is finding a small sharp object like =
a cut down putty knife or similar.its going to take a lot of adult beverage=
 and anglo saxon words.what about having your local windshield replacement =
guys try using the oscillating saw cut through most of the silicone. they a=
re kinda vertical with a 90 degree cutter. it can get you down both sides a=
nd then maybe you can pry the front and back.it may mean you have to trash =
the existing pan and buy a replacement.

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 Thanks, Frank. Hindsight is often 20/20. I know what to do in=C2=A0the fut=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">i know.</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
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arp object like a cut down putty knife or similar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">its going to take a lot of adult beverage and anglo sax=
on words.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">what about having you=
r local windshield replacement guys try using the oscillating saw cut throu=
gh most of the silicone. they are kinda vertical with a 90 degree cutter. i=
t can get you down both sides and then maybe you can pry the front and back=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">it may mean you have to trash=
 the existing pan and buy a replacement.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=
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ily:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;">Thanks, Frank=
. Hindsight is often 20/20. I know what to do in&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"y=
dpca4a4f92yiv4782729089gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, s=
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6240835" id=3D"ydpca4a4f92yiv4782729089yqt33789"><div class=3D"ydpca4a4f92y=
iv4782729089gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 7:36 PM Frank F=
isher &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br cl=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">i second the use of hylomar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>i use a silicone (permatex) to first "glue the gasket to pan. one the gask=
et is mated to the pan i set it down on a flat surface like glass and leave=
 it overnight. i find that this takes up any of the undulations of the pan.=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">i then use hylomar between the adhered gasket and th=
e motor.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">i use a a couple of all thread studs about 2=
" long each side of the motor as temporary guides to help bring the pan int=
o the correct place.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
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<p>&gt; I installed the oil pan on my TR3 using "The Right Stuff." I now fi=
nd I need to remove my oil pan. Anyone have any ideas on "creative ways" to=
 remove the oil pan without destroying it?</p>=20
<p> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p>Why I never use and hate Right Stuff.&nbsp; When you do get the pan off =
it will be a bitch getting the surfaces clean.&nbsp; Use Hylomar next time.=
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Now here's a question - Which "Hylomar"? There are a number of different
part numbers.

https://hylomar.com/en/products/

It sort of reminds me of when I go to the local NAPA store and there are 55
million different varieties of Loctite, Permatex, etc.

Alex Thomson

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million different varieties of Loctite, Permatex, =
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Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Peter Arakelian<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 13, 2021 2:11 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]'<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Stuck =
Oil Pan<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&gt; I =
installed the oil pan on my TR3 using &quot;The Right Stuff.&quot; I now =
find I need to remove my oil pan. Anyone have any ideas on =
&quot;creative ways&quot; to remove the oil pan without destroying =
it?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Why I never use and hate Right Stuff.&nbsp; When you =
do get the pan off it will be a bitch getting the surfaces clean.&nbsp; =
Use Hylomar next time.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 00:57:14 +0000 (UTC)

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Frank

    On Monday, September 13, 2021, 05:32:02 PM PDT, Alex & Janet Thomson <a=
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ere are a number of different part numbers.

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It sort of reminds me of when I go to the local NAPA store and there are 55=
 million different varieties of Loctite, Permatex, etc.

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Alex Thomson

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Peter =
Arakelian
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 2:11 PM
To: [email-masked]'
Subject: [TR] Stuck Oil Pan

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Peter Arakelian

1971 TR6

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                    On Monday, September 13, 2021, 05:32:02 PM PDT, Alex &a=
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539MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;">Now here=E2=
=80=99s a question =E2=80=93 Which =E2=80=9CHylomar=E2=80=9D? There are a n=
umber of different part numbers.</span></p><p class=3D"ydp678e8bd1yiv460900=
8539MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</spa=
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m/en/products/</a></span></p><p class=3D"ydp678e8bd1yiv4609008539MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></p><p class=
=3D"ydp678e8bd1yiv4609008539MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;colo=
r:#1F497D;">It sort of reminds me of when I go to the local NAPA store and =
there are 55 million different varieties of Loctite, Permatex, etc.</span><=
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09008539MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;<=
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tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]=
t] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Arakelian<br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Monda=
y, September 13, 2021 2:11 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> 'triumphs@autox.=
team.net'<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Stuck Oil Pan</span></p></=
div></div><p class=3D"ydp678e8bd1yiv4609008539MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p clas=
s=3D"ydp678e8bd1yiv4609008539MsoNormal">&gt; I installed the oil pan on my =
TR3 using "The Right Stuff." I now find I need to remove my oil pan. Anyone=
 have any ideas on "creative ways" to remove the oil pan without destroying=
 it?</p><p class=3D"ydp678e8bd1yiv4609008539MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=
=3D"ydp678e8bd1yiv4609008539MsoNormal">Why I never use and hate Right Stuff=
.&nbsp; When you do get the pan off it will be a bitch getting the surfaces=
 clean.&nbsp; Use Hylomar next time.</p><p class=3D"ydp678e8bd1yiv460900853=
9MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp678e8bd1yiv4609008539MsoNormal">Peter=
 Arakelian</p><p class=3D"ydp678e8bd1yiv4609008539MsoNormal">1971 TR6</p><p=
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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 01:40:01 +0000 (UTC)

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 some one posted a site recently of a guy who is selling tons of Triumph pa=
rts. most in the most singular fashion.crankshaftcam shaftrocker assemblyet=
cbut i cant find the link right nowanyone remember?

    On Monday, September 13, 2021, 06:16:25 PM PDT, David Friedlander <forz=
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On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 9:09 PM Frank Fisher <[email-masked]> wrote:

 they come up often
Triumph TR3, TR4, Original Engine Oil Pan, !! | eBay

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Triumph TR3, TR4, Original Engine Oil Pan, !! | eBay

Listed for a Triumph TR4 or TR3, is an original engine oil pan. Pan is leak=
 free. Drain plug is firm in the bung...
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    On Monday, September 13, 2021, 06:01:54 PM PDT, David Friedlander <forz=
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I recall, they=E2=80=99re not available anymore=E2=80=A6
On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:56 PM Frank Fisher <[email-masked]> wrote:

 nah! its not air tight.and we use silicone to Glue glass on to the outside=
 of sky scrapers. it has a contact adhesion of around 100 psi.
maybe a cut off grinder with a guard for just a few inches. then get a pry =
bar in and slowly work around.=C2=A0once you get an opening in the flange o=
f the pan....maybe..just maybe you can chase it around with a wood chisel.

    On Monday, September 13, 2021, 05:48:56 PM PDT, David Friedlander <forz=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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 Me either. Too much opportunity for an 'oops!' in tight quarters.
I certainly never imagined it would come to this! I even dreamed=C2=A0of fi=
tting-up an air pressure hose to the drain opening and=C2=A0pumping in some=
 air. I wonder if the system is airtight. Hmmmm....

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:36 PM Frank Fisher <[email-masked]> wrote:

 yes, but it took me 2 shots to get there.im thinking if you cut the sides =
you may be able to get a pry bar in there and force the pan down 1 inch at =
a time.if you just use an angle grinder and cut the pan off at the top lip,=
 getting to the part that stays stuck to the block gets easier.i just not e=
xcited at the thought of an angle grinder
    On Monday, September 13, 2021, 05:18:38 PM PDT, David Friedlander <forz=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
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 That may be my most "honest assessment" I've received yet, Frank.=C2=A0Cut=
 the %^&*$# thing off and start over! But, I'd suspect, that even getting=
=C2=A0the remaining lip of the pan off the block will be a major effort.=C2=
=A0
I might as well have used SuperGLue!
Dave
On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:08 PM Frank Fisher <[email-masked]> wrote:

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ar=3D"none"></div><div>So I see. And they don=E2=80=99t give =E2=80=98em aw=
ay, do they? =F0=9F=98=B2</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"=
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te"><div class=3D"ydp5dc5c848yiv6136203482gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, S=
ep 13, 2021 at 9:09 PM Frank Fisher &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:ye=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">yellowtr3@=
yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"ydp5d=
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=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.ebay=
.com/itm/333169341638?hash=3Ditem4d9270b4c6:g:XwEAAOSwA3dYk4R9" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">Triumph TR3, TR4, Original Engine Oil Pa=
n, !!  | eBay</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v id=3D"ydp5dc5c848yiv6136203482m_-5185410887975670063ydpc6699778enhancr_ca=
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19px;margin:0px 0px 6px;font-family:YahooSans, Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, He=
lvetica, Arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42);max-width:314px;">Triumph TR=
3, TR4, Original Engine Oil Pan, !!  | eBay</h2><p style=3D"font-size:12px;=
line-height:16px;margin:0px;color:rgb(151,155,167);">Listed for a Triumph T=
R4 or TR3, is an original engine oil pan. Pan is leak free. Drain plug is f=
irm in the bung...</p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table><=
/td></tr></tbody></table></a></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
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                    On Monday, September 13, 2021, 06:01:54 PM PDT, David F=
riedlander &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp5dc5c848yiv6136203482m_-5185410887975670=
063ydpb0122c39yiv6388289803"><div><div>&nbsp;You think somebody would have =
an =E2=80=98extra oilpan=E2=80=99? As I recall, they=E2=80=99re not availab=
le anymore=E2=80=A6</div><div id=3D"ydp5dc5c848yiv6136203482m_-518541088797=
5670063ydpb0122c39yiv6388289803yqt24041"><div><br clear=3D"none"><div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:56 PM Frank Fisher &lt;<a shape=3D"re=
ct" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer=
 noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><bloc=
kquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex;"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">nah! its not air tight.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">and =
we use silicone to Glue glass on to the outside of sky scrapers. it has a c=
ontact adhesion of around 100 psi.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">maybe a cut off grinder with a guard for just a few=
 inches. then get a pry bar in and slowly work around.&nbsp;</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">once you get an opening in the flange of the pan....maybe..just ma=
ybe you can chase it around with a wood chisel.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><img title=3D"Inline image" alt=3D"Inl=
ine image" src=3D"cid:If2ODhC2PjdLQTeH8A4B" style=3D"width:896px;max-width:=
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n><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
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                    On Monday, September 13, 2021, 05:48:56 PM PDT, David F=
riedlander &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp5dc5c848yiv6136203482m_-5185410887975670=
063ydpb0122c39yiv6388289803m_-962578192110542994ydp9ba22534yiv5194439089"><=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:large;color:#000099;">Me either. Too much opportunity for an 'oops!=
' in tight quarters.</div><div style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-ser=
if;font-size:large;color:#000099;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"f=
ont-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;">I cert=
ainly never imagined it would come to this! I even dreamed&nbsp;</div><div =
style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#00009=
9;">of fitting-up an air pressure hose to the drain opening and&nbsp;</div>=
<div style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#=
000099;">pumping in some air. I wonder if the system is airtight. Hmmmm....=
</div><div style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;c=
olor:#000099;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-family:comic san=
s ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#0=
00099;"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ydp5dc=
5c848yiv6136203482m_-5185410887975670063ydpb0122c39yiv6388289803m_-96257819=
2110542994ydp9ba22534yiv5194439089yqt84854"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, S=
ep 13, 2021 at 8:36 PM Frank Fisher &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:ye=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">yellowtr3@=
yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
;"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16=
px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">yes, but it took me 2 shots to get there.</div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">im thinking if you cut the sides you may be able to get a pry=
 bar in there and force the pan down 1 inch at a time.</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">if you just use an angle grinder and cut the pan off at the top lip, gett=
ing to the part that stays stuck to the block gets easier.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">i just not excited at the thought of an angle grinder</div><div><br c=
lear=3D"none"></div>
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0122c39yiv6388289803m_-962578192110542994ydp9ba22534yiv5194439089gmail-m_-2=
014656647111186763ydp3df8618byahoo_quoted_2504426153">
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                    On Monday, September 13, 2021, 05:18:38 PM PDT, David F=
riedlander &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp5dc5c848yiv6136203482m_-5185410887975670=
063ydpb0122c39yiv6388289803m_-962578192110542994ydp9ba22534yiv5194439089gma=
il-m_-2014656647111186763ydp3df8618byiv1838716481"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv style=3D"font-family:sans sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153);=
">That may be my most "honest assessment" I've received yet, Frank.&nbsp;</=
div><div style=3D"font-family:sans sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0=
,153);">Cut the %^&amp;*$# thing off and start over! But, I'd suspect, that=
 even getting&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-family:sans sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large;color:rgb(0,0,153);">the remaining lip of the pan off the block wil=
l be a major effort.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-family:sans sans-serif;f=
ont-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153);"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"=
font-family:sans sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153);">I might as=
 well have used SuperGLue!</div><div style=3D"font-family:sans sans-serif;f=
ont-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153);"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"=
font-family:sans sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153);">Dave</div>=
</div><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"ydp5dc5c848yiv6136203482m_-518541088797=
5670063ydpb0122c39yiv6388289803m_-962578192110542994ydp9ba22534yiv519443908=
9gmail-m_-2014656647111186763ydp3df8618byiv1838716481yqt14053"><div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 8:08 PM Frank Fisher &lt;<a shape=3D"rect=
" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer n=
oopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockq=
uote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans=
-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">i know.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">the only thing i can=
 think of is finding a small sharp object like a cut down putty knife or si=
milar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">its going to take a lot of adult beverage and =
anglo saxon words.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">what about having your local winds=
hield replacement guys try using the oscillating saw cut through most of th=
e silicone. they are kinda vertical with a 90 degree cutter. it can get you=
 down both sides and then maybe you can pry the front and back.</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">it may mean you have to trash the existing pan and buy a replace=
ment.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&nbsp;</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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0122c39yiv6388289803m_-962578192110542994ydp9ba22534yiv5194439089gmail-m_-2=
014656647111186763ydp3df8618byiv1838716481gmail-m_3183954962591998746ydpca4=
a4f92yahoo_quoted_1794303777">
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                    On Monday, September 13, 2021, 04:39:31 PM PDT, David F=
riedlander &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp5dc5c848yiv6136203482m_-5185410887975670=
063ydpb0122c39yiv6388289803m_-962578192110542994ydp9ba22534yiv5194439089gma=
il-m_-2014656647111186763ydp3df8618byiv1838716481gmail-m_318395496259199874=
6ydpca4a4f92yiv4782729089"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"font-size:la=
rge;color:rgb(0,0,153);">Thanks, Frank. Hindsight is often 20/20. I know wh=
at to do in&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153);">t=
he future, I'm just not sure what to do in the present...</div><div style=
=3D"font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153);"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div styl=
e=3D"font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153);">Dave</div></div><br clear=3D"none=
"><div><div id=3D"ydp5dc5c848yiv6136203482m_-5185410887975670063ydpb0122c39=
yiv6388289803m_-962578192110542994ydp9ba22534yiv5194439089gmail-m_-20146566=
47111186763ydp3df8618byiv1838716481gmail-m_3183954962591998746ydpca4a4f92yi=
v4782729089yqt33789"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 7:36 PM Frank=
 Fisher &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style=3D"font-f=
amily:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">i second the use of hylomar.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
et is mated to the pan i set it down on a flat surface like glass and leave=
 it overnight. i find that this takes up any of the undulations of the pan.=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">i then use hylomar between the adhered gasket and th=
e motor.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">i use a a couple of all thread studs about 2=
" long each side of the motor as temporary guides to help bring the pan int=
o the correct place.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Frank</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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014656647111186763ydp3df8618byiv1838716481gmail-m_3183954962591998746ydpca4=
a4f92yiv4782729089gmail-m_-3542821298923030326ydpd1699b32yahoo_quoted_25270=
26372">
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                    On Monday, September 13, 2021, 11:11:37 AM PDT, Peter A=
rakelian &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:
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063ydpb0122c39yiv6388289803m_-962578192110542994ydp9ba22534yiv5194439089gma=
il-m_-2014656647111186763ydp3df8618byiv1838716481gmail-m_318395496259199874=
6ydpca4a4f92yiv4782729089gmail-m_-3542821298923030326ydpd1699b32yiv17965442=
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From: Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 5:13 PM
To: 'Peter Arakelian' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [TR] Stuck Oil Pan

Now here's a question - Which "Hylomar"? There are a number of different pa=
rt numbers.

https://hylomar.com/en/products/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.=
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Why I never use and hate Right Stuff.  When you do get the pan off it will =
be a bitch getting the surfaces clean.  Use Hylomar next time.

Peter Arakelian
1971 TR6

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[email-masked]&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 13, 2021 5:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Peter Arakelian' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked].=
net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] Stuck Oil Pan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Arakelian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 13, 2021 2:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] Stuck Oil Pan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; I installed the oil pan on my TR3 using &quot;T=
he Right Stuff.&quot; I now find I need to remove my oil pan. Anyone have a=
ny ideas on &quot;creative ways&quot; to remove the oil pan without destroy=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Peter Arakelian<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: David Friedlander <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 15:54:09 -0400

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My thanks to all who provided insights and "next time" ideas for my "stick"
TR3 oil pan. I am happy to report [finally] success!

The ingredients for this success were:
- Not giving up
- A loooooonnnnng, large, flat-blade screwdriver
- A BFH
- And a creative angle/approach for the above.
     tools, to reach the front lip of the pan

The only casualty of this struggle is the front aluminum sealing block,
heavily dinged by the above-mentioned screwdriver. Though the part
is NLS by the usual sources, I believe I have found one on eBay.

Now, let's try this again. On to the Blue Hylomar!

Thanks again to all who responded!

Dave

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at 10:18 PM Peter Arakelian <[email-masked]> wrote:

> =E2=80=9CM=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9CAF=E2=80=9D
>
>
>
> *From:* Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2021 5:13 PM
> *To:* 'Peter Arakelian' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
> *Subject:* RE: [TR] Stuck Oil Pan
>
>
>
> Now here=E2=80=99s a question =E2=80=93 Which =E2=80=9CHylomar=E2=80=9D? =
There are a number of different
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>
>
> It sort of reminds me of when I go to the local NAPA store and there are
> 55 million different varieties of Loctite, Permatex, etc.
>
>
>
>
>
> Alex Thomson
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]
> <[email-masked]>] *On Behalf Of *Peter Arakelian
> *Sent:* Monday, September 13, 2021 2:11 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]'
> *Subject:* [TR] Stuck Oil Pan
>
>
>
> Why I never use and hate Right Stuff.  When you do get the pan off it wil=
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">My thanks to all who provid=
ed insights and &quot;next time&quot; ideas for my &quot;stick&quot;=C2=A0<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-s=
erif;font-size:large;color:#000099">TR3 oil pan. I am happy to report [fina=
lly] success!</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic =
sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large=
;color:#000099">The ingredients for this success were:</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large=
;color:#000099">- Not giving up</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">- A loo=
oooonnnnng, large, flat-blade screwdriver</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
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9">- A BFH</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic san=
s ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">- And a creative angle/appro=
ach for the above.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=
tools, to reach the front lip of the pan</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099=
"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms=
,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">The only casualty of this strugg=
le is the front aluminum sealing block,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"=
>heavily dinged=C2=A0by the above-mentioned screwdriver. Though the part=C2=
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ns-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">is NLS by the usual sources, I beli=
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nt-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif=
;font-size:large;color:#000099">Now, let&#39;s try this again. On to the Bl=
ue Hylomar!</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;c=
olor:#000099">Thanks again to all who responded!<br><br>Dave</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 13, 2021 5:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> &#39;Peter Arakelian&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@au=
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] Stuck Oil Pan<u></u><u></u></p>
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9OGmQKGjqU%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" target=3D"_blank">https://hylomar.com/en/pr=
oducts/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
It sort of reminds me of when I go to the local NAPA store and there are 55=
 million different varieties of Loctite, Permatex, etc.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
Alex Thomson<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,=
sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahom=
a,sans-serif"> Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 target=3D"_blank">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Arakelian<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 13, 2021 2:11 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> &#39;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&#39;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] Stuck Oil Pan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&gt; I installed the oil pan on my TR3 using &quot;T=
he Right Stuff.&quot; I now find I need to remove my oil pan. Anyone have a=
ny ideas on &quot;creative ways&quot; to remove the oil pan without destroy=
ing it?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Why I never use and hate Right Stuff.=C2=A0 When you=
 do get the pan off it will be a bitch getting the surfaces clean.=C2=A0 Us=
e Hylomar next time.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Peter Arakelian<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1971 TR6<u></u><u></u></p>
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s New Roman&quot;,serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 23:39:59 +0000 (UTC)

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 whooooooo hooooooogo blue
Frank
    On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 12:55:14 PM PDT, David Friedlander <for=
[email-masked]> wrote: =20
=20
 My thanks to all who provided insights and "next time" ideas for my "stick=
"=C2=A0TR3 oil pan. I am happy to report [finally] success!
The ingredients for this success were:- Not giving up- A loooooonnnnng, lar=
ge, flat-blade screwdriver- A BFH- And a creative angle/approach for the ab=
ove.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0tools, to reach the front lip of the pan
The only casualty of this struggle is the front aluminum sealing block,heav=
ily dinged=C2=A0by the above-mentioned screwdriver. Though the part=C2=A0is=
 NLS by the usual sources, I believe I have found one on eBay.
Now, let's try this again. On to the Blue Hylomar!
Thanks again to all who responded!

Dave

=C2=A0

From: Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 5:13 PM
To: 'Peter Arakelian' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [TR] Stuck Oil Pan

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Alex Thomson

=C2=A0

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf Of Peter A=
rakelian
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2021 2:11 PM
To: [email-masked]'
Subject: [TR] Stuck Oil Pan

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Peter Arakelian

1971 TR6

=C2=A0

|=20

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp1bf0a092yahoo-style-wrap" style=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">whooooooo hooooooo</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">go blue</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Frank</div><di=
v><br></div>
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766c94yahoo_quoted">
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Tuesday, September 14, 2021, 12:55:14 PM PDT, David =
Friedlander &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;">My thanks to =
all who provided insights and "next time" ideas for my "stick"&nbsp;</div><=
div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:co=
mic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;">TR3 oil pan. I am h=
appy to report [finally] success!</div><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv53207138=
48gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge;color:#000099;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5=
320713848gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font=
-size:large;color:#000099;">The ingredients for this success were:</div><di=
v class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comi=
c sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;">- Not giving up</div>=
<div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:c=
omic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;">- A loooooonnnnng,=
 large, flat-blade screwdriver</div><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:larg=
e;color:#000099;">- A BFH</div><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;col=
or:#000099;">- And a creative angle/approach for the above.</div><div class=
=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans =
ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;tools, t=
o reach the front lip of the pan</div><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv532071384=
8gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:la=
rge;color:#000099;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv53=
20713848gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-=
size:large;color:#000099;">The only casualty of this struggle is the front =
aluminum sealing block,</div><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color=
:#000099;">heavily dinged&nbsp;by the above-mentioned screwdriver. Though t=
he part&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;"=
>is NLS by the usual sources, I believe I have found one on eBay.</div><div=
 class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic=
 sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;"><br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099;">Now, let's try =
this again. On to the Blue Hylomar!</div><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv532071=
3848gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size=
:large;color:#000099;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yi=
v5320713848gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:large;color:#000099;">Thanks again to all who responded!<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Dave</div><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv53207138=
48gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:l=
arge;color:#000099;"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div=
 class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_quote"><div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv=
5320713848yqt2934106619" id=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848yqt79819"><div class=
=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 13, 2021 at=
 10:18 PM Peter Arakelian &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:PeterAra@msn=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713=
848gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb=
(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">

<div lang=3D"EN-US">
<div class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848gmail-m_-4539164050473662197WordSecti=
on1">
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal">=E2=80=9CM=E2=80=9D or =E2=
=80=9CAF=E2=80=9D<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
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<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Alex &amp; Jane=
t Thomson &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 13, 2021 5:13 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> 'Peter Arakelian' &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:PeterAra@=
msn.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;; <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"=
none">
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] Stuck Oil Pan<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(31,73,125);">Now here=E2=80=99s a question =E2=80=93 Which =E2=
=80=9CHylomar=E2=80=9D? There are a number of different part numbers.<u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(31,73,125);"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://na01.safelinks.p=
rotection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fhylomar.com%2Fen%2Fproducts%2F&a=
mp;data=3D04%7C01%7C%7Ce792dda2058246b49dde08d9771472ad%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb=
435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637671751967373582%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIj=
oiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sda=
ta=3Df2aClKTlbskiShQDr75vlKSnSXT%2Fy4lGl9OGmQKGjqU%3D&amp;reserved=3D0" tar=
get=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener">https://hylomar.com/en/products/=
</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(31,73,125);">It sort of reminds me of when I go to the local NA=
PA store and there are 55 million different varieties of Loctite, Permatex,=
 etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(31,73,125);">Alex Thomson<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;color:rgb(31,73,125);"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:=
10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, sans-serif;"> Triumphs [<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer noopener">mailto:[email-masked]</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Arakelian<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 13, 2021 2:11 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> '<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
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<b>Subject:</b> [TR] Stuck Oil Pan<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal">&gt; I installed the oil pan=
 on my TR3 using "The Right Stuff." I now find I need to remove my oil pan.=
 Anyone have any ideas on "creative ways" to remove the oil pan without des=
troying it?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal">Why I never use and hate Rig=
ht Stuff.&nbsp; When you do get the pan off it will be a bitch getting the =
surfaces clean.&nbsp; Use Hylomar next time.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal">Peter Arakelian<u></u><u></u=
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<p class=3D"ydp3a766c94yiv5320713848MsoNormal">1971 TR6<u></u><u></u></p>
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