Subject: Re: [TR] recommendations for using an insert

From: Darrell Walker <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 10:54:28 -0800

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HI Sujit,

When I did this on the block of my TR8 engine, I got a piece of 1/2=E2=80=9D=
 plate aluminum and drilled a hole the right size with my drill press.  =
The used the plate as a guide.  That, with some carefully drilling =
seemed to be enough.

-Darrell

> On Dec 3, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:
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> What is the best way to drill a perpendicular hole for an insert?
> I'm using a 7/16-20 time sert. I need to drill a perpendicular hole in =
the captive nut. The dril I need to use is 29/64. Should I  start with =
drilling  smaller diameter holes and then end up with the 29/26? =20
> Im thinking of drilling a perpendicular hole in a piece of wood in my =
drill press and then using that as a guide.
> Any recommendations please. The last time I used an insert, the hole =
wasn't perpendicular.=20
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> Sujit
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class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>HI Sujit,<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">When I did this on the block of my TR8 =
engine, I got a piece of 1/2=E2=80=9D plate aluminum and drilled a hole =
the right size with my drill press. &nbsp;The used the plate as a guide. =
&nbsp;That, with some carefully drilling seemed to be enough.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">-Darrell</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec =
3, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Sujit Roy &lt;<a =
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class=3D"">What is the best way to drill a perpendicular&nbsp;hole for =
an insert?<div class=3D"">I'm using a 7/16-20 time sert. I need to drill =
a perpendicular hole in the captive nut. The dril I need to use is =
29/64. Should&nbsp;I&nbsp; start with =
drilling&nbsp;&nbsp;smaller&nbsp;diameter holes and then end up with the =
29/26?&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Im thinking&nbsp;of drilling a =
perpendicular hole in a piece of wood in my drill press and then using =
that as a guide.</div><div class=3D"">Any recommendations please. The =
last time I used an insert, the hole wasn't =
perpendicular.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
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If the wood was very hard you could make a drill block. Or use a piece of t=
hick hard plastic, such as a section of Corian countertop. I wouldn=92t use=
 e.g. a piece of soft pine, the bit could wobble and cut into the sides of =
the hole, enlarging it.

I=92ll just toss out that you could buy a new tool also (something that oft=
en tempts me) Big Gator Tools V-Drill Guide, Standard Sizes 3/8" to 1/2" - =
Power Drill Accessories - Amazon.com<https://www.amazon.com/Milescraft-1312=
-DrillBlock-Handheld-Drill/dp/B00F1ZJFZK>  or Milescraft 1318 Drillmate Dri=
ll Guide with chuck - - Amazon.com<https://www.amazon.com/Milescraft-1318-D=
rillMate-Drill-Guide/dp/B014A1Z92I/> these are more for the woodworking com=
munity but may serve here.

Cheers,

Cliff

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Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2020 11:46 AM
Subject: [TR] recommendations for using an insert

What is the best way to drill a perpendicular hole for an insert?
I'm using a 7/16-20 time sert. I need to drill a perpendicular hole in the =
captive nut. The dril I need to use is 29/64. Should I  start with drilling=
  smaller diameter holes and then end up with the 29/26?
Im thinking of drilling a perpendicular hole in a piece of wood in my drill=
 press and then using that as a guide.
Any recommendations please. The last time I used an insert, the hole wasn't=
 perpendicular.

Sujit

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Cupertino, California

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ertop. I wouldn=92t use e.g. a piece of soft pine, the bit could wobble and=
 cut into the sides of the hole, enlarging
 it.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=92ll just toss out that you could buy a new tool a=
lso (something that often tempts me)
<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Milescraft-1312-DrillBlock-Handheld-Drill=
/dp/B00F1ZJFZK">
Big Gator Tools V-Drill Guide, Standard Sizes 3/8&quot; to 1/2&quot; - Powe=
r Drill Accessories - Amazon.com</a>&nbsp; or
<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/Milescraft-1318-DrillMate-Drill-Guide/dp/=
B014A1Z92I/">
Milescraft 1318 Drillmate Drill Guide with chuck - - Amazon.com</a> these a=
re more for the woodworking community but may serve here.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cliff<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Sujit Roy</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, December 3, 2020 11:46 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Triumphs</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[TR] recommendations for using an insert</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">What is the best way to drill a perpendicular&nbsp;h=
ole for an insert?<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I'm using a 7/16-20 time sert. I need to drill a per=
pendicular hole in the captive nut. The dril I need to use is 29/64. Should=
&nbsp;I&nbsp; start with drilling&nbsp;&nbsp;smaller&nbsp;diameter holes an=
d then end up with the 29/26?&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Im thinking&nbsp;of drilling a perpendicular hole in=
 a piece of wood in my drill press and then using that as a guide.<o:p></o:=
p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Any recommendations please. The last time I used an =
insert, the hole wasn't perpendicular.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sujit<br clear=3D"all">
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sujit Roy<br>
Cupertino, California<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 21:21:17 +0000 (UTC)

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 A drill guide as you describe is a good idea.=C2=A0 I always use a guide l=
ike that whenever I use a tap.=C2=A0 If you get a tap started crooked you w=
ill never get it straightened out.=C2=A0 I like to use a solid block of alu=
minum but I have also used square tubing.=C2=A0 Same principal applies when=
 hand drilling.

Drilling a pilot hole is easier to get it centered.=C2=A0 Once the pilot ho=
le is there the other drill bits will self-center.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
To: Triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 12:39 pm
Subject: [TR] recommendations for using an insert

What is the best way to drill a perpendicular=C2=A0hole for an insert?I'm u=
sing a 7/16-20 time sert. I need to drill a perpendicular hole in the capti=
ve nut. The dril I need to use is 29/64. Should=C2=A0I=C2=A0 start with dri=
lling=C2=A0=C2=A0smaller=C2=A0diameter holes and then end up with the 29/26=
?=C2=A0=C2=A0Im thinking=C2=A0of drilling a perpendicular hole in a piece o=
f wood in my drill press and then using that as a guide.Any recommendations=
 please. The last time I used an insert, the hole wasn't perpendicular.=C2=
=A0
Sujit

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Cupertino, California

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<div> <font size="3">A drill guide as you describe is a good idea.&nbsp; I always use a guide like that whenever I use a tap.&nbsp; If you get a tap started crooked you will never get it straightened out.&nbsp; I like to use a solid block of aluminum but I have also used square tubing.&nbsp; Same principal applies when hand drilling.<br>
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<div><font size="3"><br>
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<div><font size="3">Drilling a pilot hole is easier to get it centered.&nbsp; Once the pilot hole is there the other drill bits will self-center.</font><br>
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<div> <br>
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<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
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From: Sujit Roy &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 12:39 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] recommendations for using an insert<br>
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<div dir="ltr">What is the best way to drill a perpendicular&nbsp;hole for an insert?
<div>I'm using a 7/16-20 time sert. I need to drill a perpendicular hole in the captive nut. The dril I need to use is 29/64. Should&nbsp;I&nbsp; start with drilling&nbsp;&nbsp;smaller&nbsp;diameter holes and then end up with the 29/26?&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>

<div>Im thinking&nbsp;of drilling a perpendicular hole in a piece of wood in my drill press and then using that as a guide.</div>

<div>Any recommendations please. The last time I used an insert, the hole wasn't perpendicular.&nbsp;</div>

<div><br>
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