Subject: [TR] Battery charging

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"Alex & Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]

>I know of a fellow one town away who has an antique tractor collection of
at least 30 machines. Every tractor is plugged into a battery maintainer. I
think he uses the brand that is the parent company of the old Solar >name.
Don?t know if he actually has a tractor start-up day every now and then or
not.

   A few years ago, I was invited to see Jim Taylor's massive car collection
(which includes MANY British cars) up in the Schenectady, NY area.  I seem
to remember him saying that every car in the collection could be started and
driven at any time.  Every car had a battery maintainer attached to it. 

Merry Christmas/Let's hear it for Boxing Day/Happy New Year.

Dennis Culligan

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From: Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2020 08:03:09 -0500

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Love it!!  Now if I can just get the flat spot out on acceleration near the t=
op of the pedal.  I think I need to enrich mixture one or two flats due to t=
he cold weather.  Jim

> On Dec 28, 2020, at 7:10 AM, Reihing, Randall S. <Randall.Reihing@utoledo.=
edu> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Jim,
>=20
> A good time no doubt!=20
>=20
> Screw the weather! Top down TR3 rides this time of year are a great way to=
 kick the winter blues!=20
>=20
> Here in NW, Ohio, I also took my top down, bright yellow TR3 out for a spi=
n around our small town when it was 20F a few days ago. On Main St., surroun=
ded by Christmas decorations and lights I saw a guy coming toward me in his,=
 top down, red Corvette, wearing a stocking cap and smoking a large cigar. W=
e waved to each other. Kicking winter's ass. Love my TR3! Smiles all the way=
 home.=20
>=20
> Randall Reihing
> 1959 TR3A
>=20
> From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> on behalf of Jim Hennings=
en <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 8:51 PM
> To: Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]>
> Cc: list Triumph <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] Battery charging
> =20
> Merry Christmas!  I took my TR3a out today top down with Santa hat in 50 d=
egree weather.  Brrrr.  But the heater is working well. =20
> Cheers,
> Jim Henningsen=20
> Ocala fl=20
>=20
>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> I forgot to mention =E2=80=93 here it is Christmas night and there are a b=
unch of us chatting about the relative merits of battery chargers, and we ar=
e doing it from each end of the country. This is why I enjoy this crew so mu=
ch. There is just so much genuine help and assistance. We need to always giv=
e Mark Bradakis a big thank-you for keeping the mechanics of this process up=
 and running. Where would we be without his efforts?
>> =20
>> Have a great Christmas, everyone , as well as a good new year. It=E2=80=99=
s now 8:30 in Connecticut and to all, a good night.
>> =20
>> Alex Thomson
>> =20
>> From: Rye Livingston [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
>> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 6:58 PM
>> To: Alex & Janet Thomson
>> Cc: David Friedlander; TR3 Triumphs; list Triumph
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Battery charging
>> =20
>> For what it=E2=80=99s worth, here is an opinion from to experts I was sur=
prised to hear.  One is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=80=99s been in the busines=
s for 30+ years.  The Interstate battery had died and even pumped out some w=
hite power at the end, out a breather tube from the battery.  I cleaned it a=
ll up well, worried about battery acid in the front truck.  I went to the sh=
op, he=E2=80=99s an Interstate distributor as well, and bought a new battery=
 and told him what happened, and that I=E2=80=99d had the battery connected t=
o a Battery Tender Jr.  He told me that even that brand, which is good, is r=
eally not good to leave on all the time, and it will cook the battery.  He r=
ecommends putting it on for a week or two, then disconnecting for a week or t=
wo, and repeat.  Well that=E2=80=99s a pain.
>> =20
>> Then in my Airstream trailer which has two 12 volt deep cycle batteries, I=
=E2=80=99ve read that the power converter that comes with the trailer also i=
sn=E2=80=99t designed to leave plugged in all the time and it will cook the b=
atteries, which did happen.  I tried using a Battery Tender Jr on that but i=
t couldn=E2=80=99t deal with 2 batteries.  I was then told about an upgrade f=
or the Airsteam power converter on Amazon, about $200 or so, which I install=
ed and it does manage the float and it can be left plugged in for months and=
 months no problem.
>> =20
>> So be careful with Battery Tenders.  I have two Battery Tender Jrs and fo=
ur Die Hard battery tenders for multiple cars, Kubota tractor and a boat.  J=
ust be careful how long you leave them plugged in and check the water level i=
f it=E2=80=99s not a gel battery.  I have an Optima in my Triumph and Kubota=
.
>> =20
>> Good luck,
>> =20
>> Rye
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson <[email-masked]=
t> wrote:
>> =20
>> Are the batteries still connected to their cars? Maybe there is a slight d=
raw on the TR6. Our TR6 took the whole summer off because it needs a new wir=
ing harness. There were some wires that had let the smoke out! After I drove=
 it into winter storage, I disconnected the ground cable and noticed that th=
ere was a tiny spark! Something is leaking current. Another project to do!
>> =20
>> Alex Thomson
>> =20
>> From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Davi=
d Friedlander
>> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2020 3:18 PM
>> To: New England Triumphs; TR3 Triumphs
>> Subject: [TR] Battery charging
>> =20
>> Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!
>> =20
>> I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 that has an Optima red t=
op battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems like even though each=
 battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to need more frequent =E2=
=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D than the Optima.... Interesting....
>> =20
>> Dave
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Love it!! &nbsp;Now if I c=
an just get the flat spot out on acceleration near the top of the pedal. &nb=
sp;I think I need to enrich mixture one or two flats due to the cold weather=
. &nbsp;Jim</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 28, 2=
020, at 7:10 AM, Reihing, Randall S. &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wro=
te:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
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Jim,</div>
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A good time no doubt!&nbsp;</div>
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<br>
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Screw the weather! Top down TR3 rides this time of year are a great way to k=
ick the winter blues!&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:12pt;caret-color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-=
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<br>
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<div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:12pt;caret-color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-=
color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">
Here in NW, Ohio, I also took my top down, bright yellow TR3 out for a spin a=
round our small town when it was 20F a few days ago. On Main St., surrounded=
 by Christmas decorations and lights I saw a guy coming toward me in his, to=
p down, red Corvette, wearing
 a stocking cap and smoking a large cigar. We waved to each other. Kicking w=
inter's ass. Love my TR3! Smiles all the way home.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"margin:0px;font-size:12pt;caret-color:rgb(0, 0, 0);background-=
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<br>
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Randall Reihing</div>
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color:rgb(255, 255, 255)">
1959 TR3A</div>
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le=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;triumphs-b=
[email-masked]&gt; on behalf of Jim Henningsen &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 25, 2020 8:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> list Triumph &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] Battery charging</font>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Merry Christmas! &nbsp;I took my TR3a out today top down wi=
th Santa hat in 50 degree weather. &nbsp;Brrrr. &nbsp;But the heater is work=
ing well. &nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers,</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Henningsen&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Ocala fl&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Dec 25, 2020, at 8:28 PM, Alex &amp; Janet Thom=
son &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>
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hristmas night and there are a bunch of us chatting about the relative merit=
s of battery chargers, and we are doing it from each end of
 the country. This is why I enjoy this crew so much. There is just so much g=
enuine help and assistance. We need to always give Mark Bradakis a big thank=
-you for keeping the mechanics of this process up and running. Where would w=
e be without his efforts?</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font-family:&qu=
ot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt; font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Rye Liv=
ingston [mailto:[email-masked]]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 25, 2020 6:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex &amp; Janet Thomson<br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Friedlander; TR3 Triumphs; list Triumph<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Battery charging</span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">For what it=E2=80=99s worth, here is an opinion fro=
m to experts I was surprised to hear. &nbsp;One is a Porsche mechanic who=E2=
=80=99s been in the business for 30+ years. &nbsp;The Interstate battery had=
 died and even pumped out some white power at the end, out
 a breather tube from the battery. &nbsp;I cleaned it all up well, worried a=
bout battery acid in the front truck. &nbsp;I went to the shop, he=E2=80=99s=
 an Interstate distributor as well, and bought a new battery and told him wh=
at happened, and that I=E2=80=99d had the battery connected
 to a Battery Tender Jr. &nbsp;He told me that even that brand, which is goo=
d, is really not good to leave on all the time, and it will cook the battery=
. &nbsp;He recommends putting it on for a week or two, then disconnecting fo=
r a week or two, and repeat. &nbsp;Well that=E2=80=99s
 a pain.</p>
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</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Then in my Airstream trailer which has two 12 volt d=
eep cycle batteries, I=E2=80=99ve read that the power converter that comes w=
ith the trailer also isn=E2=80=99t designed to leave plugged in all the time=
 and it will cook the batteries, which did happen.
 &nbsp;I tried using a Battery Tender Jr on that but it couldn=E2=80=99t dea=
l with 2 batteries. &nbsp;I was then told about an upgrade for the Airsteam p=
ower converter on Amazon, about $200 or so, which I installed and it does ma=
nage the float and it can be left plugged in for
 months and months no problem.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">So be careful with Battery Tenders. &nbsp;I have tw=
o Battery Tender Jrs and four Die Hard battery tenders for multiple cars, Ku=
bota tractor and a boat. &nbsp;Just be careful how long you leave them plugg=
ed in and check the water level if it=E2=80=99s not
 a gel battery. &nbsp;I have an Optima in my Triumph and Kubota.</p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Good luck,</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Rye</p>
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<br>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">On Dec 25, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Alex &amp; Janet Thoms=
on &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:</p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
t;sans-serif&quot;; color:#1F497D">Are the batteries still connected to thei=
r cars? Maybe there is a slight draw on the TR6. Our TR6 took the whole summ=
er off because it needs a new wiring harness. There were
 some wires that had let the smoke out! After I drove it into winter storage=
, I disconnected the ground cable and noticed that there was a tiny spark! S=
omething is leaking current. Another project to do!</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quo=
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ot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span class=3D"x_app=
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On Behalf Of<span class=3D"x_apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>David Fri=
edlander<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=3D"x_apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Friday, Dec=
ember 25, 2020 3:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=3D"x_apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>New England T=
riumphs; TR3 Triumphs<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=3D"x_apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[TR] Bat=
tery charging</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Hey all ~ Merry Christmas ...!</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">I have one float charger that serves both my TR3 th=
at has an Optima red top battery and my TR6 that has a Sears Die Hard. Seems=
 like even though each battery is only 2 -3 years old, the Die Hard seems to=
 need more frequent =E2=80=9Ctopping up=E2=80=9D
 than the Optima.... Interesting....</p>
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