Subject: Re: [TR] sandblasting

From: Rye Livingston <[email-masked]>
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My nephew started his own company of mobile power cleaning. =C2=A0He bough=
t this serious diesel powered professional duel axle trailer rig in Texas,=
 and he could power clean with all kinds of media depending on the applica=
tion, and he also had hot water blasting. =C2=A0He did all kinds of jobs, =
from vintage cars, boats for the Coast Guard, to BART stations in San Fran=
cisco for both graffiti to human waste. =C2=A0And if that wasn't gross eno=
ugh, he said one of the worst was a Chinese restaurant that got sited and =
fined every day for grease oozing out of the cinder black and concrete enc=
losure for their dumpster. =C2=A0One of his easiest jobs was my 8' long ut=
ility trailer.=0A=0AIn all those situations, a mobile service=C2=A0like hi=
s, they will=C2=A0capture and clean up the=C2=A0media and waste, big vacuu=
m system. For that Chinese restaurant he put out dams to channel the water=
 and goo and=C2=A0were vacuuming up all that grease and hot water, very gr=
oss. =C2=A0=0A=0AAt my house he used an inert material, but it was not san=
d. =C2=A0It was some sort of black material that looked like shards of coa=
l. =C2=A0I've texted him to find out what it was.=0A=0AAs was=C2=A0mention=
ed, for the cars he blasted, he had a couple of "learning" cars that were =
not vintage. =C2=A0The trick was to=C2=A0learn not to let the hood, or any=
 long body panel, get=C2=A0hot and warp. =C2=A0So check for references to =
make sure who you hire has that experience. =C2=A0After he learned he did =
several cars including BMWs and vintage 911s and 356 Porsches.=0A=0AWhen h=
e did this work, he had a full helmet respirator setup, coveralls, gloves =
and boots. =C2=A0No media got where he didn't want it, but he was a hot sw=
eaty mess when he took that helmet off.=0A=0AI live in a cul-de-sac and he=
 did the blasting down there, and there was just a little bit of media tha=
t was under the trailer that didn't get cleaned up, so again, a mobile ser=
vice has a process to not leave all that behind.=0A=0AHe also had a "rust =
inhibitor" he sprayed on the bare metal so it didn't get a quick flash rus=
t overnight. =C2=A0Google that for details. I was able to paint over that =
no problem. =C2=A0I bought a gallon of black Rust-Oleum paint and repainte=
d it myself and it's like a new trailer.=0A=0AGood luck,=0A=0ARye=0APH: 53=
0-FIND-RYE=0A=0AOn April 23, 2020 at 9:04 PM, DAVE HOGYE <dlhogye@comcast.=
net> wrote:=0A=0ABack in '08-'09, I had my TR3 body tub and frame blasted =
at a local powder coating company.=C2=A0 $300 each.=C2=A0 They blasted eve=
ry square inch with crushed garnet.=C2=A0 The tub was stripped of every bo=
lt-on part.=C2=A0 In two different visits, I set up both items on my makes=
hift engine stand rotisserie, with custom attachments, to make it a lot ea=
sier for them and the best outcome.=C2=A0 Worth every penny and more.=0ASk=
ip this part if you can and have a company do this work.=C2=A0 You might e=
ven consider a mobile unit come to you.=C2=A0 Different media can be used =
depending on paint or rust.=C2=A0 Special care has to be taken on body par=
ts, not to warp them, but if the person has a little finesse, any harm can=
 be avoided.=0AThe important part of good blasting is high CFM from the co=
mpressor.=C2=A0 If you don't have enough CFM, you'll be working way too ha=
rd for way too long.=C2=A0=0ADave H.=0A=0AOn April 23, 2020 at 8:25 PM Gre=
g Lemon <[email-masked]> wrote: =0A=0AI stripped a TR4 years ago over th=
e course of I don't remember how many evenings after work, using several g=
allons of paint stripper bought at closeout tool store, saying never again=
 and wishing I had a sandblaster.=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A=0ABe careful what you wis=
h for I guess.=0A=0AGreg Lemon=0ATR250=0A=0AOn Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 9:08 PM =
Jeff Scarbrough < [email-masked]> wrote: =0A=0A=0AOn Thu, Apr 23, 202=
0 at 8:53 PM Michael Porter < [email-masked]> wrote: =0A=0AWhich reminds=
 me of J.E. Gordon's (The New Science of Strong Materials) remark about pr=
oduction welding:=C2=A0 "Welding is like Hell--fun for the first three or =
four hours."=0A=0A=0AThere was a time when I couldn't wait to learn how to=
 run the cotton picker at work.=C2=A0 It got old kind of quick...But it st=
ill beat a day in the office in front of the computer.=0A=0A=C2=A0=0A** tr=
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<html><body><div>My nephew started his own company of mobile power cleaning. &nbsp;He =
bought this serious diesel powered professional duel axle trailer rig in T=
exas, and he could power clean with all kinds of media depending on the ap=
plication, and he also had hot water blasting. &nbsp;He did all kinds of j=
obs, from vintage cars, boats for the Coast Guard, to BART stations in San=
 Francisco for both graffiti to human waste. &nbsp;And if that wasn't gros=
s enough, he said one of the worst was a Chinese restaurant that got sited=
 and fined every day for grease oozing out of the cinder black and concret=
e enclosure for their dumpster. &nbsp;One of his easiest jobs was my 8' lo=
ng utility trailer.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>In all t=
hose situations, a mobile service&nbsp;like his, they will&nbsp;capture an=
d clean up the&nbsp;media and waste, big vacuum system. For that Chinese r=
estaurant he put out dams to channel the water and goo and&nbsp;were vacuu=
ming up all that grease and hot water, very gross. &nbsp;</div><div><br da=
ta-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>At my house he used an inert material, but i=
t was not sand. &nbsp;It was some sort of black material that looked like =
shards of coal. &nbsp;I've texted him to find out what it was.</div><div><=
br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>As was&nbsp;mentioned, for the cars he =
blasted, he had a couple of "learning" cars that were not vintage. &nbsp;T=
he trick was to&nbsp;learn not to let the hood, or any long body panel, ge=
t&nbsp;hot and warp. &nbsp;So check for references to make sure who you hi=
re has that experience. &nbsp;After he learned he did several cars includi=
ng BMWs and vintage 911s and 356 Porsches.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D=
"1"></div><div>When he did this work, he had a full helmet respirator setu=
p, coveralls, gloves and boots. &nbsp;No media got where he didn't want it=
, but he was a hot sweaty mess when he took that helmet off.</div><div><br=
 data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I live in a cul-de-sac and he did the bla=
sting down there, and there was just a little bit of media that was under =
the trailer that didn't get cleaned up, so again, a mobile service has a p=
rocess to not leave all that behind.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></=
div><div>He also had a "rust inhibitor" he sprayed on the bare metal so it=
 didn't get a quick flash rust overnight. &nbsp;Google that for details. I=
 was able to paint over that no problem. &nbsp;I bought a gallon of black =
Rust-Oleum paint and repainted it myself and it's like a new trailer.</div=
><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Good luck,</div><div><br></div><=
div class=3D"x-apple-signature">Rye<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE</div><div><br>On A=
pril 23, 2020 at 9:04 PM, DAVE HOGYE &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br=
><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"msg-quote"><div st=
yle=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: =
#333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial=
, sans-serif; color: #333333;">Back in '08-'09, I had my TR3 body tub and =
frame blasted at a local powder coating company.&nbsp; $300 each.&nbsp; Th=
ey blasted every square inch with crushed garnet.&nbsp; The tub was stripp=
ed of every bolt-on part.&nbsp; In two different visits, I set up both ite=
ms on my makeshift engine stand rotisserie, with custom attachments, to ma=
ke it a lot easier for them and the best outcome.&nbsp; Worth every penny =
and more.</div><div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, aria=
l, sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-fa=
mily: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">Skip this part if you=
 can and have a company do this work.&nbsp; You might even consider a mobi=
le unit come to you.&nbsp; Different media can be used depending on paint =
or rust.&nbsp; Special care has to be taken on body parts, not to warp the=
m, but if the person has a little finesse, any harm can be avoided.</div><=
div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; c=
olor: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,=
 arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">The important part of good blasting i=
s high CFM from the compressor.&nbsp; If you don't have enough CFM, you'll=
 be working way too hard for way too long.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"font-s=
ize: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;" dat=
a-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: #333333;">Dave H.</div><div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family:=
 helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font-siz=
e: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;"><br><=
/div><blockquote type=3D"cite">On April 23, 2020 at 8:25 PM Greg Lemon &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: <br> <br><div dir=3D"auto">I stripped a TR4 y=
ears ago over the course of I don't remember how many evenings after work,=
 using several gallons of paint stripper bought at closeout tool store, sa=
ying never again and wishing I had a sandblaster.&nbsp;&nbsp;<div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Be careful what you wish for I guess.<div=
 dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"ox-023f=
b2b890-gmail_quote"><div class=3D"ox-023fb2b890-gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On=
 Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 9:08 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:fishpla=
[email-masked]" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">fishplate@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote: <br></div><blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><br><div class=3D"ox-023fb2b890-gmail_quote"><div class=3D"ox-=
023fb2b890-gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:53 PM Michael=
 Porter &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:m=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote: <br></div><blockquote><di=
v><div><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"></blockquote><p>Which reminds m=
e of J.E. Gordon's (<em>The New Science of Strong Materials</em>) remark a=
bout production welding:&nbsp; "Welding is like Hell--fun for the first th=
ree or four hours."</p></div><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There wa=
s a time when I couldn't wait to learn how to run the cotton picker at wor=
k.&nbsp; It got old kind of quick...But it still beat a day in the office =
in front of the computer.</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</div></div></div=
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