Subject: [TR] LED tube florescent light replacements

From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 09:31:10 -0700

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I have regular florescent tube  lights in my garage and want to replace the
tubes with LED equivalents. ( I don't want to replace the fixtures) Is
there anything I need to look out for. I think mine have ballasts in each.

Sujit

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I have regular=C2=A0florescent=C2=A0tube=C2=A0 lights in m=
y garage and want to replace the tubes with LED equivalents. ( I don&#39;t =
want to replace the fixtures) Is there anything=C2=A0I need to look out for=
. I think mine have ballasts in each.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Suj=
it<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_s=
ignature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sujit Ro=
y<br>Cupertino, California</div><div><br><a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog=
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Hi Roy,=0A=0AI bought some of the LED bulbs at Costco that are designed to=
 go into the traditional florescent fixtures. =C2=A0My florescent bulbs ha=
ven't failed yet so I haven't swapped them out, but on the package of LED =
bulbs it says no modifications necessary. =C2=A0I'll double check the inst=
ructions on the box but I think you're good to go.=0A=0AOne thing I did di=
scover with the swap out of florescent fixtures with the LED fixtures from=
 Costco, both with the 110 outlet so you can daisy chain them together. =C2=
=A0With the florescent fixture, I have one close to the garage door openin=
g, and often times I'll plug in my shop vac into=C2=A0that one when I'm va=
cuuming out my truck. =C2=A0I swapped it out with an LED fixture and it di=
d NOT like that power load when I fired up the shopvac and blew out the fi=
xture. =C2=A0No reset button so it was Done. =C2=A0DOA. =C2=A0Costco swapp=
ed it out, but put the florescent fixture back in that spot.=0A=0ARye=0APH=
: 530-FIND-RYE=0A=0AOn April 15, 2020 at 9:48 AM, Sujit Roy <triumphstag@g=
mail.com> wrote:=0A=0AI have regular=C2=A0florescent=C2=A0tube=C2=A0 light=
s in my garage and want to replace the tubes with LED equivalents. ( I don=
't want to replace the fixtures) Is there anything=C2=A0I need to look out=
 for. I think mine have ballasts in each.=0A=0A=0ASujit=0A=0A-- =0ASujit R=
oy=0ACupertino, California=0A=0Ahttps://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/=0A=0A=
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<html><body><div>Hi Roy,</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I bought some o=
f the LED bulbs at Costco that are designed to go into the traditional flo=
rescent fixtures. &nbsp;My florescent bulbs haven't failed yet so I haven'=
t swapped them out, but on the package of LED bulbs it says no modificatio=
ns necessary. &nbsp;I'll double check the instructions on the box but I th=
ink you're good to go.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>One t=
hing I did discover with the swap out of florescent fixtures with the LED =
fixtures from Costco, both with the 110 outlet so you can daisy chain them=
 together. &nbsp;With the florescent fixture, I have one close to the gara=
ge door opening, and often times I'll plug in my shop vac into&nbsp;that o=
ne when I'm vacuuming out my truck. &nbsp;I swapped it out with an LED fix=
ture and it did NOT like that power load when I fired up the shopvac and b=
lew out the fixture. &nbsp;No reset button so it was <span style=3D"caret-=
color: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', H=
elvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-var=
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normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -=
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olor: #000000; color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', He=
lvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-vari=
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ebkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff; text-decoration: =
none; display: inline !important; float: none;">Done. &nbsp;DOA</span>. &n=
bsp;Costco swapped it out, but put the florescent fixture back in that spo=
t.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Rye<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE</=
div><div><br>On April 15, 2020 at 9:48 AM, Sujit Roy &lt;triumphstag@gmail=
.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"=
msg-quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">I have regular&nbsp;florescent&nbsp;tube&nbsp;=
 lights in my garage and want to replace the tubes with LED equivalents. (=
 I don't want to replace the fixtures) Is there anything&nbsp;I need to lo=
ok out for. I think mine have ballasts in each.<div><br></div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Sujit<br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Sujit Roy<br>Cupertino, Califo=
rnia</div><div><br><a href=3D"https://triumphstagblog.wordpress.com/" data=
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LEDs work just fine in cold and sub freezing temps=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn April =
15, 2020 at 11:36 AM, Tony Drews <[email-masked]> wrote:=0A=0AHow do t=
hey work in cold weather?=C2=A0 My fluorescent lights really really =0Adon=
't like the cold.=0A=0ARegards, Tony Drews=0A=0AOn 4/15/2020 1:28 PM, Phil=
 Ethier wrote:=0AI had tons of problems trying to replace tubes with LED.=0A=
=0AIt was cheaper to recycle the tubes and fixtures then buy new LED units=
 from Menards. They work great, look better, and create no hassle.=0A=0ASe=
nt from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Apr 15, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Randall <TR3driver@ca=
.rr.com> wrote:=0A=0A=0AMy suggestion would be to bypass the ballasts. The=
y waste power and may=0Afail in the future. I've also found some that didn=
't want to work with LED=0Abulbs, even the ones that say they will work wi=
th a ballast. One of my old=0Afixtures apparently failed the first time it=
 was powered up with LEDs in=0Aplace; it had been working before but didn'=
t work afterwards (even with the=0Aoriginal fluorescent bulbs). Of course,=
 if you don't bypass the ballasts,=0Alook for the bulbs that say they will=
 work with a ballast.=0A=0AWatch out for lumen ratings, some of the LED bu=
lbs are cheating on their=0A"watt equivalent" ratings.=0A=0AYou might want=
 to look at color temperature too; I don't like the really=0Ahigh ones. 40=
00 or 5000K is ok with me, but I really hate 7000 or 8000.=0A=0AFWIW, I we=
nt with new fixtures (price was about the same and I didn't have=0Ato mess=
 with rewiring and so on, plus I didn't have enough old fixtures).=0A4200 =
lumens per 4' fixture, 5000K. Haven't finished the new facility yet,=0Abut=
 I'm really happy with what I've got up so far.=0Ahttps://i.imgur.com/RhRo=
HF1.jpg=0A=0A-- Randall=0A=0AI have regular florescent tube lights in my g=
arage and want=0Ato replace the tubes with LED equivalents. ( I don't want=
 to=0Areplace the fixtures) Is there anything I need to look out=0Afor. I =
think mine have ballasts in each.=0A** [email-masked] **=0A=0ADon=
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<html><body><div>LEDs work just fine in cold and sub freezing temps</div><div><br data=
-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div></div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div=
><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br>On April 15, 2020 at 11:36 AM, To=
ny Drews &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div class=3D"msg-quote"><div class=3D"_stretch"><span class=3D=
"body-text-content">How do they work in cold weather?&nbsp; My fluorescent=
 lights really really <br>don't like the cold.<br><br>Regards, Tony Drews<=
br><br>On 4/15/2020 1:28 PM, Phil Ethier wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cit=
e" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">I had tons of problems trying to replace tu=
bes with LED.</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-=
text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-tex=
t">It was cheaper to recycle the tubes and fixtures then buy new LED units=
 from Menards. They work great, look better, and create no hassle.</blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Sent from my iPhon=
e</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">On Apr 15, 2020, at 12:02 PM,=
 Randall &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:</blockquote></blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"=
quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-pla=
in-text">My suggestion would be to bypass the ballasts. They waste power a=
nd may</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-=
plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">fail in =
the future. I've also found some that didn't want to work with LED</blockq=
uote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">bulbs, even the ones t=
hat say they will work with a ballast. One of my old</blockquote></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=
=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">fixtures apparently failed the first=
 time it was powered up with LEDs in</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text">place; it had been working before but didn't work afte=
rwards (even with the</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" c=
lass=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain=
-text">original fluorescent bulbs). Of course, if you don't bypass the bal=
lasts,</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-=
plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">look for=
 the bulbs that say they will work with a ballast.</blockquote></blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D=
"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" cla=
ss=3D"quoted-plain-text">Watch out for lumen ratings, some of the LED bulb=
s are cheating on their</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-pla=
in-text">"watt equivalent" ratings.</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite=
" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-pl=
ain-text">You might want to look at color temperature too; I don't like th=
e really</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quote=
d-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">high o=
nes. 4000 or 5000K is ok with me, but I really hate 7000 or 8000.</blockqu=
ote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">FWIW, I went with new fixtures (p=
rice was about the same and I didn't have</blockquote></blockquote><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" c=
lass=3D"quoted-plain-text">to mess with rewiring and so on, plus I didn't =
have enough old fixtures).</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-=
plain-text">4200 lumens per 4' fixture, 5000K. Haven't finished the new fa=
cility yet,</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"qu=
oted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">but=
 I'm really happy with what I've got up so far.</blockquote></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><a href=3D"https://i.imgur.com/RhRoHF1.jp=
g" data-mce-href=3D"https://i.imgur.com/RhRoHF1.jpg">https://i.imgur.com/R=
hRoHF1.jpg</a></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">=
<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-pl=
ain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">-- Randall=
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-=
text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquo=
te></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite=
" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">I have regular florescent tube lights in my =
garage and want</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"=
cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quote=
d-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">to rep=
lace the tubes with LED equivalents. ( I don't want to</blockquote></block=
quote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><=
blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">replace the fixtures) Is there anything I=
 need to look out</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quot=
ed-plain-text"><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">for. =
I think mine have ballasts in each.</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>=
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