Subject: Re: [TR] sandblasting

From: Rye Livingston <[email-masked]>
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OK, it's -=C2=A0COAL SLAG BLAST MEDIA=0Ahttps://www.agsco.com/coal-slag/=0A=
=0A=0AOn April 24, 2020 at 8:04 AM, dave <[email-masked]> wrote:=0A=0ATh=
at black media he used was likely ground up lava.=C2=A0 I have used that a=
nd its not as aggressive as sand.=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0AFrom: Triumphs <triumph=
[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Rye Livingston=0ASent: Friday, Apri=
l 24, 2020 9:25 AM=0ATo: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>=0ACc: Triumphs (=
[email-masked]) <[email-masked]>=0ASubject: Re: [TR] san=
dblasting=0A=C2=A0=0AMy nephew started his own company of mobile power cle=
aning. =C2=A0He bought this serious diesel powered professional duel axle =
trailer rig in Texas, and he could power clean with all kinds of media dep=
ending on the application, and he also had hot water blasting. =C2=A0He di=
d all kinds of jobs, from vintage cars, boats for the Coast Guard, to BART=
 stations in San Francisco for both graffiti to human waste. =C2=A0And if =
that wasn't gross enough, he said one of the worst was a Chinese restauran=
t that got sited and fined every day for grease oozing out of the cinder b=
lack and concrete enclosure for their dumpster. =C2=A0One of his easiest j=
obs was my 8' long utility trailer.=0A=C2=A0=0AIn all those situations, a =
mobile service=C2=A0like his, they will=C2=A0capture and clean up the=C2=A0=
media and waste, big vacuum system. For that Chinese restaurant he put out=
 dams to channel the water and goo and=C2=A0were vacuuming up all that gre=
ase and hot water, very gross. =C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0AAt my house he used an in=
ert material, but it was not sand. =C2=A0It was some sort of black materia=
l that looked like shards of coal. =C2=A0I've texted him to find out what =
it was.=0A=C2=A0=0AAs was=C2=A0mentioned, for the cars he blasted, he had =
a couple of "learning" cars that were not vintage. =C2=A0The trick was to=C2=
=A0learn not to let the hood, or any long body panel, get=C2=A0hot and war=
p. =C2=A0So check for references to make sure who you hire has that experi=
ence. =C2=A0After he learned he did several cars including BMWs and vintag=
e 911s and 356 Porsches.=0A=C2=A0=0AWhen he did this work, he had a full h=
elmet respirator setup, coveralls, gloves and boots. =C2=A0No media got wh=
ere he didn't want it, but he was a hot sweaty mess when he took that helm=
et off.=0A=C2=A0=0AI live in a cul-de-sac and he did the blasting down the=
re, and there was just a little bit of media that was under the trailer th=
at didn't get cleaned up, so again, a mobile service has a process to not =
leave all that behind.=0A=C2=A0=0AHe also had a "rust inhibitor" he spraye=
d on the bare metal so it didn't get a quick flash rust overnight. =C2=A0G=
oogle that for details. I was able to paint over that no problem. =C2=A0I =
bought a gallon of black Rust-Oleum paint and repainted it myself and it's=
 like a new trailer.=0A=C2=A0=0AGood luck,=0A=C2=A0=0ARye=0APH: 530-FIND-R=
YE=0A=0AOn April 23, 2020 at 9:04 PM, DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]> wro=
te:=0A=0ABack in '08-'09, I had my TR3 body tub and frame blasted at a loc=
al powder coating company.=C2=A0 $300 each.=C2=A0 They blasted every squar=
e inch with crushed garnet.=C2=A0 The tub was stripped of every bolt-on pa=
rt.=C2=A0 In two different visits, I set up both items on my makeshift eng=
ine stand rotisserie, with custom attachments, to make it a lot easier for=
 them and the best outcome.=C2=A0 Worth every penny and more.=0ASkip this =
part if you can and have a company do this work.=C2=A0 You might even cons=
ider a mobile unit come to you.=C2=A0 Different media can be used dependin=
g on paint or rust.=C2=A0 Special care has to be taken on body parts, not =
to warp them, but if the person has a little finesse, any harm can be avoi=
ded.=0AThe important part of good blasting is high CFM from the compressor=
.=C2=A0 If you don't have enough CFM, you'll be working way too hard for w=
ay too long.=C2=A0=0ADave H.=0A=C2=A0=0AOn April 23, 2020 at 8:25 PM Greg =
Lemon <[email-masked]> wrote:=0A=0AI stripped a TR4 years ago over the c=
ourse of I don't remember how many evenings after work, using several gall=
ons of paint stripper bought at closeout tool store, saying never again an=
d wishing I had a sandblaster.=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0ABe careful what you =
wish for I guess.=0A=C2=A0=0AGreg Lemon=0ATR250=0A=C2=A0=0AOn Thu, Apr 23,=
 2020, 9:08 PM Jeff Scarbrough < [email-masked]> wrote:=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=
=A0=0AOn Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:53 PM Michael Porter < [email-masked]> w=
rote:=0A=C2=A0=0AWhich reminds me of J.E. Gordon's (The New Science of Str=
ong Materials) remark about production welding:=C2=A0 "Welding is like Hel=
l--fun for the first three or four hours."=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0AThere was a=
 time when I couldn't wait to learn how to run the cotton picker at work.=C2=
=A0 It got old kind of quick...But it still beat a day in the office in fr=
ont of the computer.=0A=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0A** [email-masked] ** =0A=
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<html><body><div></div><div>OK, it's -&nbsp;COAL SLAG BLAST MEDIA</div><div><a href=3D=
"https://www.agsco.com/coal-slag/">https://www.agsco.com/coal-slag/</a></d=
iv><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br>On April 24, 2020 at 8:04 =
AM, dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><div class=3D"msg-quote" lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"=
purple"><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">That black medi=
a he used was likely ground up lava.&nbsp; I have used that and its not as=
 aggressive as sand.&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div s=
tyle=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;=
 padding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs=
 &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rye Livingsto=
n<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2020 9:25 AM<br><b>To:</b> DAVE HOGYE =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Triumphs ([email-masked]=
t) &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] sandblastin=
g</p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">My nephew started his own company of mobile power cleaning. &nbsp;He b=
ought this serious diesel powered professional duel axle trailer rig in Te=
xas, and he could power clean with all kinds of media depending on the app=
lication, and he also had hot water blasting. &nbsp;He did all kinds of jo=
bs, from vintage cars, boats for the Coast Guard, to BART stations in San =
Francisco for both graffiti to human waste. &nbsp;And if that wasn't gross=
 enough, he said one of the worst was a Chinese restaurant that got sited =
and fined every day for grease oozing out of the cinder black and concrete=
 enclosure for their dumpster. &nbsp;One of his easiest jobs was my 8' lon=
g utility trailer.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal">In all those situations, a mobile service&nbsp;l=
ike his, they will&nbsp;capture and clean up the&nbsp;media and waste, big=
 vacuum system. For that Chinese restaurant he put out dams to channel the=
 water and goo and&nbsp;were vacuuming up all that grease and hot water, v=
ery gross. &nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">At my house he used an inert material, but it was=
 not sand. &nbsp;It was some sort of black material that looked like shard=
s of coal. &nbsp;I've texted him to find out what it was.</p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">As was&nb=
sp;mentioned, for the cars he blasted, he had a couple of "learning" cars =
that were not vintage. &nbsp;The trick was to&nbsp;learn not to let the ho=
od, or any long body panel, get&nbsp;hot and warp. &nbsp;So check for refe=
rences to make sure who you hire has that experience. &nbsp;After he learn=
ed he did several cars including BMWs and vintage 911s and 356 Porsches.</=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">When he did this work, he had a full helmet respirator setup, covera=
lls, gloves and boots. &nbsp;No media got where he didn't want it, but he =
was a hot sweaty mess when he took that helmet off.</p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I live in a cul=
-de-sac and he did the blasting down there, and there was just a little bi=
t of media that was under the trailer that didn't get cleaned up, so again=
, a mobile service has a process to not leave all that behind.</p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">He a=
lso had a "rust inhibitor" he sprayed on the bare metal so it didn't get a=
 quick flash rust overnight. &nbsp;Google that for details. I was able to =
paint over that no problem. &nbsp;I bought a gallon of black Rust-Oleum pa=
int and repainted it myself and it's like a new trailer.</p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Good luck,=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Rye<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;"><br>=
On April 23, 2020 at 9:04 PM, DAVE HOGYE &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@com=
cast.net" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; marg=
in-bottom: 5.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0=
pt;"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; fo=
nt-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font=
-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;">Back =
in '08-'09, I had my TR3 body tub and frame blasted at a local powder coat=
ing company.&nbsp; $300 each.&nbsp; They blasted every square inch with cr=
ushed garnet.&nbsp; The tub was stripped of every bolt-on part.&nbsp; In t=
wo different visits, I set up both items on my makeshift engine stand roti=
sserie, with custom attachments, to make it a lot easier for them and the =
best outcome.&nbsp; Worth every penny and more.</span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetic=
a',sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-=
family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;">Skip this part if you can=
 and have a company do this work.&nbsp; You might even consider a mobile u=
nit come to you.&nbsp; Different media can be used depending on paint or r=
ust.&nbsp; Special care has to be taken on body parts, not to warp them, b=
ut if the person has a little finesse, any harm can be avoided.</span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-f=
amily: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-style=3D"font-siz=
e: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;">The impor=
tant part of good blasting is high CFM from the compressor.&nbsp; If you d=
on't have enough CFM, you'll be working way too hard for way too long.&nbs=
p;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
2.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;" data-mce-styl=
e=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #33333=
3;">Dave H.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; color: #333333;" data=
-mce-style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Helvetica',sans-serif; colo=
r: #333333;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt=
; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-botto=
m: 5.0pt;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" data-mc=
e-style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt;">On April 23, 2020 at 8:25 PM Greg Lemon=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:grglmn@gm=
ail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I =
stripped a TR4 years ago over the course of I don't remember how many even=
ings after work, using several gallons of paint stripper bought at closeou=
t tool store, saying never again and wishing I had a sandblaster.&nbsp;&nb=
sp;</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">Be careful what you wish for I guess.</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
&nbsp;</p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Greg Lemon</p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">TR250</p></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 9:08=
 PM Jeff Scarbrough &lt; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" data-mce-h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p><=
/div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;" data-m=
ce-style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;"><div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:53 PM Michael Porter &lt; <a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top=
: 5.0pt; margin-bottom: 5.0pt;" data-mce-style=3D"margin-top: 5.0pt; margi=
n-bottom: 5.0pt;"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><p>Whic=
h reminds me of J.E. Gordon's (<em><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri',s=
ans-serif;" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">The New =
Science of Strong Materials</span></em>) remark about production welding:&=
nbsp; "Welding is like Hell--fun for the first three or four hours."</p></=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></blockquote><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There was a time when I co=
uldn't wait to learn how to run the cotton picker at work.&nbsp; It got ol=
d kind of quick...But it still beat a day in the office in front of the co=
mputer.</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=
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