Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 suspension

From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 10:17:37 -0600

I don't have one handy to check, but I seem to vaguely recall those threads
were 9/16-18 (UNF).

Looks like you've got something strange going on with the flats; like maybe
extreme corrosion covered by a layer of spray paint?  Anyway, you may need
to use some force to get a box end wrench on far enough to turn the nut.  

Or more extreme measures, like maybe taking the upper trunnion loose from
the spring tower and folding it down so you can get in there with a grinder.

 Either way, I would plan on replacing the joint once you've got it apart.

-- Randall  

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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 22:53:47 -0500 (EST)

moment of idle curiosity here.  am taking parts to the machine shop and wondering what exactly is the bath they clean greasey parts.

is it a solvent and if so, how do they disposeof so much of it

terry smith
tr3a

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 13:00:44 +0000 (UTC)

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 Any more, I think most shops use a water based cleaner but in the old days=
 parts cleaners used Stoddard solvent which is a type of mineral spirit.=C2=
=A0 Some of the fancier cleaners used a distillation unit to distill clean =
solvent from the dirty making for a smaller volume of solvent to be dispose=
d.=C2=A0 It is considered a hazardous waste and should be returned to a haz=
ardous waste drop-off.=C2=A0 I'm sure there is an active market in recyclin=
g solvent where large operators pick up old solvent, distill it to recover =
clean solvent and sell that back to the users.=C2=A0=20

If time allows, small users can let the dissolved contaminants settle out a=
nd pour off the clear solvent for reuse.=C2=A0 The residue can be allowed t=
o evaporate leaving the grease and what-not behind.=C2=A0 You are still lef=
t with disposing of this in a responsible manner but the volume is much muc=
h less.
I'm sure there are those who dispose of it in an irresponsible manner.
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Dave=20

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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
To: Randall <[email-masked]>; dave <[email-masked]>; Triumphs List <=
[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Jan 16, 2019 12:34 am
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 suspension

moment of idle curiosity here.=C2=A0 am taking parts to the machine shop an=
d wondering what exactly is the bath they clean greasey parts.

terry smith
tr3a

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er but in the old days parts cleaners used Stoddard solvent which is a type=
 of mineral spirit.&nbsp; Some of the fancier cleaners used a distillation =
unit to distill clean solvent from the dirty making for a smaller volume of=
 solvent to be disposed.&nbsp; It is considered a hazardous waste and shoul=
d be returned to a hazardous waste drop-off.&nbsp; I'm sure there is an act=
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From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 08:32:13 -0500

Most shops will use a service such as Safety-Kleen to maintain a parts
washing machine. That way, the service company has to deal with the
legalities and issues. For a price, naturally. You can buy 5 gallon cans of
parts washing fluid from NAPA and use it in your own machine. I think the
NAPA part # is 6505 or 6510.  Some vendors offer a water based solvent but
I'm not sure how effective they are.

Now, how to get rid of the old stuff - Living in a cold climate, I have a 3
barrel wood stove for shop heat. Small amounts of used parts cleaner is used
to help start a fire. No different than charcoal lighter fluid. In fact,
most commercial parts washing solutions are a variation of mineral spirits.
I change the fluid in my machine every other year so this works well for me.
I'm not suggesting that you carry a quart of dirty parts washing fluid
through your living room so that you can chuck it into the family room wood
stove!

If you don't have a home method of disposal, you could check with your town
dump/transfer station. They may have a disposal tank but be prepared to pay.
A big issue there is that too often, uneducated people will attempt to throw
out truly hazardous chemicals into the waste oil receptacle.

Alex T.

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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of TERRY
SMITH
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 10:54 PM
To: Randall; dave; Triumphs List
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 suspension

moment of idle curiosity here.  am taking parts to the machine shop and
wondering what exactly is the bath they clean greasey parts.

terry smith
tr3a

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From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 08:32:15 -0600

I use Naptha or Purple Power.   I know some folks subscribe to a service that cleans and refills their bath every 90 days.  I take it to the recycle center with my used oil.  

Bill B

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From: Tom Walling <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 10:08:22 -0500 (EST)

Most shops use a service company called Safety Kleen for their solvent washers. They provide a wash tub and pump that sits on top of a barrel of solvent. Periodically they come around and swap out the barrel of solvent. They then recycle or dispose of the old solvent in an ecologically safe way (or so they say...)

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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:27:03 -0500 (EST)

Here in rural New Hampshire, any personal toxic waste must wait til the twice a year date.  Besides the fact that it's in the next town over, if you're otherwise busy that day, too bad and need to hold onto it and wait six months for the next pass.  

Citizen Toxie, here.  

Terry

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From: DAVE HOGYE <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 12:34:36 -0800 (PST)

I have been using Purple Power for cleaning dirty and oily parts.  I have a couple gallons standing by.  I fill a tub and let the parts soak over night or 24 hours, agitating the tub periodically, then hose off the residue.  I have an old aluminum window screen and frame that I spill the parts onto before rinsing them off.  Again agitating to turn the items and rinsing a little more.  I use a paint strainers and dump the Purple cleaner from the tub back into the gallon jugs to be used over and over again.  With typical home garage use, these gallons will last a long time.  I took on a project to clean mostly Triumph engine/driveline, chassis and body fasteners that I had in multiple containers after years of collecting and disassembling cars and drivelines.  Now, the fasteners are clean and organized and ready for use.  I took the opportunity to recycle any, even slightly, damaged items. 
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Dave,
Do you use the PP straight or diluted?
Bill

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I use solvent in my 5 gallon parts washer at home. I get it at Tractor Supp=
ly in 5 gallon containers:

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/crown-psc-1000-parts-cleaner-5-ga=
l?cm_vc=3D-10005

I keep the container and when the solvent gets too dirty, I drain it into t=
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l where they take it for free. I use them for my old brake fluid and antifr=
eeze as well. Oil goes to the local AutoZone or Napa.

Joel...

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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 7:53 PM
To: Randall; dave; Triumphs List
Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 suspension

moment of idle curiosity here.  am taking parts to the machine shop and won=
dering what exactly is the bath they clean greasey parts.

terry smith
tr3a

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From: Dave Hogye <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 14:22:26 -0800

I use the PP full strength.  No dilution.
DH

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