Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4

From: JOSEPH MATO <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 14:59:27 +0000 (UTC)

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=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0regards, Joe
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Today's Topics:

=C2=A0 1. Re: New TR-3 starters (Randall)
=C2=A0 2. Re: New TR-3 starters (DAVID MASSEY)
=C2=A0 3. Re: New TR-3 starters (Ron L'Herault)
=C2=A0 4. Re: New TR-3 starters (dave)

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 08:39:02 -0600
From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Ron L'Herault'" <[email-masked]>,
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR-3 starters

> Which
> brings me to the question, "What's involved in a starter=20
> rebuild?"=C2=A0 I'm
> guessing its brushes and bearings.

Depends a lot on what's wrong with it.=C2=A0 Brushes, springs, bearings and
skimming/polishing the commutator would be the absolute minimum; but the
drive can also need attention, or the field coils.=C2=A0 Drive failures are
particularly common with the earlier style TR3 starter (but I don't think
anyone makes the "failsafe" coupling any more).=C2=A0 The power stud is als=
o
damaged sometimes and should be replaced if necessary.=C2=A0 (Watch out, th=
e
replacement may be different threads than original.)=C2=A0 Armature should =
be
tested in several different ways (including shaft runout) and repaired or
replaced as necessary.

Oh yeah, lubricate, clean and paint.=C2=A0 Test free-running current, plus =
torque
and current with the rotor locked.

There's probably more, that's just what I can think of offhand.

FWIW, my independent FLAPS has a service where they can send out unusual
starters (as well as other components like generators, clutches,
distributors, etc) to be rebuilt.=C2=A0 Turnaround runs a few days to a few
weeks, and I've always been happy with the result.=C2=A0 They don't keep TR=
3
parts on the shelf, of course, and the kid at the counter may not know (or
think to offer) that they can have yours rebuilt.=C2=A0 But you might ask, =
maybe
yours can too.

Seems like the rebuilders (the few that are left) don't like dealing with
the public.=C2=A0 Given what I've seen hanging around friend's shops; I don=
't
blame them!

-- Randall=C2=A0=20

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 15:08:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR-3 starters

I took mine to just such a rebuilder but they could not find the parts.? No=
 problem rebuilding the generator but starter parts were a problem.=20

Dave
On Friday, January 4, 2019 Ron L'Herault <[email-masked]> wrote:
I had mine rebuilt, granted, that was in 1968 or '69 but if you have an
automotive electrical rebuilding company in your area, and they have been
around a while, they should be able to just rebuild it, right?.? Which
brings me to the question, "What's involved in a starter rebuild?"? I'm
guessing its brushes and bearings.

Ron L

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 22:20:33 -0500
From: Robin Watson <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR3A STARTER
Message-ID:
??? <[email-masked]>

I need a new starter for the 1960 TR3A that I am restoring and see that
Rareelectrical sell one. Has anyone tried this brand.
Robin

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Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 10:11:38 -0500
From: "Ron L'Herault" <[email-masked]>
To: "'Randall'" <[email-masked]>,=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]=
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Subject: Re: [TR] New TR-3 starters

The nice thing about TR-3's and starters is that if your starter needs to b=
e
rebuilt/replaced, you can at least use the crank to start the car.=C2=A0 I =
did
that when mine was out for rebuild.=C2=A0 There were a few curious onlooker=
s in
my college's parking lot when I went out to start it after class.=C2=A0 It
started right up, on one pull if I remember correctly.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: Randall [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 9:39 AM
To: 'Ron L'Herault'; [email-masked]
Subject: RE: [TR] New TR-3 starters

> Which
> brings me to the question, "What's involved in a starter=20
> rebuild?"=C2=A0 I'm
> guessing its brushes and bearings.

Depends a lot on what's wrong with it.=C2=A0 <snip>=C2=A0=20

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 10:21:42 -0600
From: "dave" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR-3 starters

If you are not original minded, I believe the common wisdom is that its
better to go with a high torque starter.

There is a company here in dallas that does rebuilds - Advanced Starter
Service;=C2=A0 2711 Irving Blvd, Dallas, TX 75207, (214) 688-0280

I'm in Dallas and have brought them starters, alternators, etc.=C2=A0 they =
are
absolutely five star!!!=C2=A0 I brought them a very worn out greasy starter=
 out
of a 63 buick electra.=C2=A0 1 day turnaround, and it was absolutely gorgeo=
us.=C2=A0 i
think it was about $135.=C2=A0 If you ship in one of those USPS flat rate b=
oxes
it might work out for you.=C2=A0 btw they just loved that old Buick starter=
 and
made a big fuss over it.=C2=A0 They thought it was great fun to fix it.

Highly recommended!

Contact me offline if you need more info

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Ron L'Herault
Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 9:46 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] New TR-3 starters

I had mine rebuilt, granted, that was in 1968 or '69 but if you have an
automotive electrical rebuilding company in your area, and they have been
around a while, they should be able to just rebuild it, right?.=C2=A0 Which
brings me to the question, "What's involved in a starter rebuild?"=C2=A0 I'=
m
guessing its brushes and bearings.

Ron L

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 22:20:33 -0500
From: Robin Watson <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR3A STARTER
Message-ID:
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l.gmail.com>

I need a new starter for the 1960 TR3A that I am restoring and see that
Rareelectrical sell one. Has anyone tried this brand.
Robin

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 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  1. Re: New TR-3 starters (R=
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ASSEY)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;  3. Re: New TR-3 starters (Ron L'He=
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><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] New TR-3 starters<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:D1425DD6159B4173B07BE162408879E2@LAP=
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lain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Which<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; brings me =
to the question, "What's involved in a starter <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; rebuild?"&nbsp;  I'm<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; guessing its brushe=
s and bearings.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Depend=
s a lot on what's wrong with it.&nbsp; Brushes, springs, bearings and<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">skimming/polishing the commutator would be the absolut=
e minimum; but the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">drive can also need attention,=
 or the field coils.&nbsp; Drive failures are<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">par=
ticularly common with the earlier style TR3 starter (but I don't think<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">anyone makes the "failsafe" coupling any more).&nbsp;=
 The power stud is also<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">damaged sometimes and sho=
uld be replaced if necessary.&nbsp; (Watch out, the<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">replacement may be different threads than original.)&nbsp; Armature shou=
ld be<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">tested in several different ways (including=
 shaft runout) and repaired or<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">replaced as necess=
ary.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Oh yeah, lubricat=
e, clean and paint.&nbsp; Test free-running current, plus torque<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">and current with the rotor locked.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">There's probably more, that's just what I can =
think of offhand.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">FWIW=
, my independent FLAPS has a service where they can send out unusual<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">starters (as well as other components like generators, =
clutches,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">distributors, etc) to be rebuilt.&nbsp;=
 Turnaround runs a few days to a few<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">weeks, and I=
've always been happy with the result.&nbsp; They don't keep TR3<br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">parts on the shelf, of course, and the kid at the counter m=
ay not know (or<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">think to offer) that they can hav=
e yours rebuilt.&nbsp; But you might ask, maybe<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">y=
ours can too.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Seems li=
ke the rebuilders (the few that are left) don't like dealing with<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">the public.&nbsp; Given what I've seen hanging around frie=
nd's shops; I don't<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">blame them!<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-- Randall&nbsp; <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2=
019 15:08:03 +0000 (UTC)<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dav=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mailto:lhe=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>, <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: =
[TR] New TR-3 starters<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br=
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v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I =
took mine to just such a rebuilder but they could not find the parts.? No p=
roblem rebuilding the generator but starter parts were a problem. <br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dave<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>On Friday, January 4, 2019 Ron L'Herault &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lherault@ve=
rizon.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I had mine rebuilt, granted, that was in 1=
968 or '69 but if you have an<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">automotive electric=
al rebuilding company in your area, and they have been<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">around a while, they should be able to just rebuild it, right?.? Whic=
h<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">brings me to the question, "What's involved in =
a starter rebuild?"? I'm<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">guessing its brushes and=
 bearings.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron L<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 22:20:33 -0500<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Fr=
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o: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
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R3A STARTER<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
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f-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I need a new star=
ter for the 1960 TR3A that I am restoring and see that<br></div><div dir=3D=
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">Message-ID: &lt;001b01d4a508$f5268210$df738630$@net&gt;<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; charset=3D"us-ascii"<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The nice thing about TR=
-3's and starters is that if your starter needs to be<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">rebuilt/replaced, you can at least use the crank to start the car.&nbs=
p; I did<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">that when mine was out for rebuild.&nbsp=
; There were a few curious onlookers in<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">my colleg=
e's parking lot when I went out to start it after class.&nbsp; It<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">started right up, on one pull if I remember correctly.<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron L<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-----Original Message-----<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">From: Randall [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2019 9:39 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">To: 'Ron L'Herault'; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Subject: RE: [TR] New TR-3 starters<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Which<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; brings me =
to the question, "What's involved in a starter <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; rebuild?"&nbsp;  I'm<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; guessing its brushe=
s and bearings.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Depend=
s a lot on what's wrong with it.&nbsp; &lt;snip&gt;&nbsp; <br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">------------------------------<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 4<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sat, 5 =
Jan 2019 10:21:42 -0600<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: "dave" &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dave@rantee=
r.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@=
autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]<=
/a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] New TR-3 starters<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;002401d4a512$c03f1120$40bd3360$@rantee=
r.com&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">If you are not original minded, I believe the common wisdom is that its=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">better to go with a high torque starter.<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">There is a company here in da=
llas that does rebuilds - Advanced Starter<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Servic=
e;&nbsp; 2711 Irving Blvd, Dallas, TX 75207, (214) 688-0280<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I'm in Dallas and have brought them s=
tarters, alternators, etc.&nbsp; they are<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">absolut=
ely five star!!!&nbsp; I brought them a very worn out greasy starter out<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">of a 63 buick electra.&nbsp; 1 day turnaround, and =
it was absolutely gorgeous.&nbsp; i<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">think it was =
about $135.&nbsp; If you ship in one of those USPS flat rate boxes<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">it might work out for you.&nbsp;  btw they just loved tha=
t old Buick starter and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">made a big fuss over it.&=
nbsp; They thought it was great fun to fix it.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Highly recommended!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Contact me offline if you need more info<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-----Original Message-----<br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@a=
utox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of Ron L'Herault<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: F=
riday, January 4, 2019 9:46 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@au=
tox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] New TR-3 start=
ers<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I had mine rebuilt=
, granted, that was in 1968 or '69 but if you have an<br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">automotive electrical rebuilding company in your area, and they have b=
een<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">around a while, they should be able to just r=
ebuild it, right?.&nbsp; Which<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">brings me to the q=
uestion, "What's involved in a starter rebuild?"&nbsp;  I'm<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">guessing its brushes and bearings.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron L<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Message: 1<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 22:20:3=
3 -0500<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Robin Watson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [TR] TR3A STARTER<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">M=
essage-ID:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CABF+gKE2CRaPse=
ENLWN9Bqo1qKzrUOMgAwgnz_wDE8U+<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I need a new starter for the 1960 TR3A =
that I am restoring and see that<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Rareelectrical s=
ell one. Has anyone tried this brand.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Robin<br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">** <a href=3D"mailto:triump=
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 When I was in high school I drove a '63 Ford Falcon that had a battery so =
week if it didn't hit on the first couple cranks the battery fell flat on i=
ts face and I would have to push it.=C2=A0 It was my dad's car and after a =
while (probably after it acted up for him) he bought a new battery.=C2=A0 M=
ade a big difference.
The TR3 has the lever for priming the carbs.=C2=A0 But if you opt for an el=
ectric pump even a flat battery will have enough power to run the pump enou=
gh to prime.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Randall <[email-masked]>
To: triumphs <[email-masked]>; DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>; =
joemato <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Jan 7, 2019 2:06 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4

I've actually push started mine by myself. Mostly when I was much younger o=
f course, but I did do it again just a couple of years back.

In 4th gear, its possible to move the car from a standstill. Doesn't turn t=
he engine fast enough to start, but lets you get fuel pulled into the cylin=
ders. Once it "wants" to start, push it out of gear as fast as you can, the=
n jump in, drop it into 2nd and pop the clutch.

Back before my first alternator conversion, I used to have to do that almos=
t every night, after getting off 2nd shift. The generator worked, but could=
n't keep up with headlights, wipers, heater and so on; let alone recharge t=
he battery from a cold start in the few miles I drove to work.
-- Randall
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<div> <font size="3">When I was in high school I drove a '63 Ford Falcon that had a battery so week if it didn't hit on the first couple cranks the battery fell flat on its face and I would have to push it.&nbsp; It was my dad's car and after a while (probably after it acted up for him) he bought a new battery.&nbsp; Made a big difference.</font></div>

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<div><font size="3">The TR3 has the lever for priming the carbs.&nbsp; But if you opt for an electric pump even a flat battery will have enough power to run the pump enough to prime.</font><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Randall &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; joemato &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Jan 7, 2019 2:06 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4<br>
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<div id="yiv0312114469">I've actually push started mine by myself. Mostly when I was much younger of course, but I did do it again just a couple of years back.<br>
<br>
In 4th gear, its possible to move the car from a standstill. Doesn't turn the engine fast enough to start, but lets you get fuel pulled into the cylinders. Once it "wants" to start, push it out of gear as fast as you can, then jump in, drop it into 2nd and pop the clutch.<br>
<br>
Back before my first alternator conversion, I used to have to do that almost every night, after getting off 2nd shift. The generator worked, but couldn't keep up with headlights, wipers, heater and so on; let alone recharge the battery from a cold start in the few miles I drove to work.<br>
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