Subject: [TR] TR 250 (TR4) Cruise control

From: Roger Elliott <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:28:53 -0600

Hi,
We are planning some long excursions this year in the TR 250, so I would 
like to install a cruise control in the TR 250.

There have been two basic options mentioned in various posts.
1) The Rostra unit which is more expensive and seems to require have 
more installation requirements (for example a sensor on the drive shaft 
to register speed.) 
http://www.rostra.com/universal-aftermarket-cruise-control-by-rostra.php
2) The recreation of the Audiovox cruise control, which requires a 
vacuum canister. Quite a bit cheaper than the Rostra. 
https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=422&osCsid=PYoe2OY2I0duN1IkGnMJ1 

I have seen articles for installing both, but on carbs with a cable 
linkage but none with the throttle linkage like the early TRs.

Has anyone installed on or the other on a TR250, TR4, etc that has the 
rods, levers, bell crank arrangement? If so, how did you make the 
connection?

Thanks,
Roger Elliott

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On my 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser that came from Australia with a diesel engi=
ne, it came from the factory with a manual throttle, which I use at start =
up, and also on the freeway. =C2=A0My son installed one on his Toyota pick=
up truck, and then installed the same kind on my TR3.=0A=0AIt's not an off=
icial cruise control, meaning it will turn off if/when I tap the brakes, a=
nd it won't accelerate when going up a hill. But when I'm on the freeway I=
 can set the manual throttle at 65 or 70 mph, and away I go.=0A=0AThis can=
 in extremely handy in 2017 when I drove from California back to Arizona f=
or Triumphest. =C2=A0And last year I drove up the coast to Salem Oregon fo=
r the All Triumph Drive In. =C2=A0I tend to use it for short periods of ti=
me, 5-10 mins, so I can move around and stretch my legs, etc.=0A=0AAlso I =
should add, I only use it when I'm not in a lot of traffic, which is simil=
ar to a new cruise control. =C2=A0I always have plenty of time to turn it =
off when I'm approaching slower cars or what ever.=0A=0AI wrote an article=
 about it for our club newsletter with photos. =C2=A0If anyone wants that =
I can send it to you directly.=0A=0ARye=0APH: 530-FIND-RYE=0A=0AOn Jan 30,=
 2019, at 02:13 PM, Roger Elliott <[email-masked]> wrote:=0A=0AHi,=0AWe =
are planning some long excursions this year in the TR 250, so I would =0Al=
ike to install a cruise control in the TR 250.=0A=0AThere have been two ba=
sic options mentioned in various posts.=0A1) The Rostra unit which is more=
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le =0Alinkage but none with the throttle linkage like the early TRs.=0A=0A=
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<html><body><div>On my 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser that came from Australia with a diesel=
 engine, it came from the factory with a manual throttle, which I use at s=
tart up, and also on the freeway. &nbsp;My son installed one on his Toyota=
 pickup truck, and then installed the same kind on my TR3.</div><div><br d=
ata-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>It's not an official cruise control, meanin=
g it will turn off if/when I tap the brakes, and it won't accelerate when =
going up a hill. But when I'm on the freeway I can set the manual throttle=
 at 65 or 70 mph, and away I go.<br></div><div><br></div><div>This can in =
extremely handy in 2017 when I drove from California back to Arizona for T=
riumphest. &nbsp;And last year I drove up the coast to Salem Oregon for th=
e All Triumph Drive In. &nbsp;I tend to use it for short periods of time, =
5-10 mins, so I can move around and stretch my legs, etc.</div><div><br da=
ta-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Also I should add, I only use it when I'm no=
t in a lot of traffic, which is similar to a new cruise control. &nbsp;I a=
lways have plenty of time to turn it off when I'm approaching slower cars =
or what ever.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I wrote an art=
icle about it for our club newsletter with photos. &nbsp;If anyone wants t=
hat I can send it to you directly.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></di=
v><div class=3D"x-apple-signature">Rye<br>PH: 530-FIND-RYE</div><div><br>O=
n Jan 30, 2019, at 02:13 PM, Roger Elliott &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:=
<br><br></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"msg-quote"><div=
 class=3D"_stretch"><span class=3D"body-text-content">Hi,<br>We are planni=
ng some long excursions this year in the TR 250, so I would <br>like to in=
stall a cruise control in the TR 250.<br><br>There have been two basic opt=
ions mentioned in various posts.<br>1) The Rostra unit which is more expen=
sive and seems to require have <br>more installation requirements (for exa=
mple a sensor on the drive shaft <br>to register speed.) <br><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.rostra.com/universal-aftermarket-cruise-control-by-rostra.php" da=
ta-mce-href=3D"http://www.rostra.com/universal-aftermarket-cruise-control-=
by-rostra.php">http://www.rostra.com/universal-aftermarket-cruise-control-=
by-rostra.php</a><br>2) The recreation of the Audiovox cruise control, whi=
ch requires a <br>vacuum canister. Quite a bit cheaper than the Rostra. <b=
r><a href=3D"https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D25&amp;pr=
oducts_id=3D422&amp;osCsid=3DPYoe2OY2I0duN1IkGnMJ1" data-mce-href=3D"https=
://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D25&amp;products_id=3D422&am=
p;osCsid=3DPYoe2OY2I0duN1IkGnMJ1">https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.=
php?cPath=3D25&amp;products_id=3D422&amp;osCsid=3DPYoe2OY2I0duN1IkGnMJ1</a=
> <br><br><br>I have seen articles for installing both, but on carbs with =
a cable <br>linkage but none with the throttle linkage like the early TRs.=
<br><br>Has anyone installed on or the other on a TR250, TR4, etc that has=
 the <br>rods, levers, bell crank arrangement? If so, how did you make the=
 <br>connection?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Roger Elliott<br><br>** <a href=3D"mail=
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From: Chris Simo <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 20:43:54 -0500

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So funny you should mention this.  I was in my attic yesterday, pulling out
my boxes of tr2-4 parts horded over the years for my newly acquired tr3
projects...

In amongst the parts was the audiovox cruise control I bought for the TR2
years ago....

In hindsight, I'm pretty sure a vac type cruise was not a good choice for a
tr2 with no vac ports....  I may go for the rosta unit for my tr4. did not
know it existed, thanks for sharing.

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<div dir=3D"auto">So funny you should mention this.=C2=A0 I was in my attic=
 yesterday, pulling out my boxes of tr2-4 parts horded over the years for m=
y newly acquired tr3 projects...<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"aut=
o">In amongst the parts was the audiovox cruise control I bought for the TR=
2 years ago....=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to">In hindsight, I&#39;m pretty sure a vac type cruise was not a good choi=
ce for a tr2 with no vac ports....=C2=A0 I may go for the rosta unit for my=
 tr4. did not know it existed, thanks for sharing.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div></div>

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 02:24:21 +0000 (UTC)

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 I have the Audiovox on my TR6 (which is a close enough analog) without the=
 vacuum canister.=C2=A0 Works just fine.=C2=A0 I mounted a bracket for the =
cable on the shelf in the firewall and used the beaded chain attached to th=
e long linkage that runs behind the carbs.=C2=A0 I can send pictures if you=
 like.
=20
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Elliott <[email-masked]>
To: triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2019 4:13 pm
Subject: [TR] TR 250 (TR4) Cruise control

Hi,
We are planning some long excursions this year in the TR 250, so I would=20
like to install a cruise control in the TR 250.

There have been two basic options mentioned in various posts.
1) The Rostra unit which is more expensive and seems to require have=20
more installation requirements (for example a sensor on the drive shaft=20
to register speed.)=20
http://www.rostra.com/universal-aftermarket-cruise-control-by-rostra.php
2) The recreation of the Audiovox cruise control, which requires a=20
vacuum canister. Quite a bit cheaper than the Rostra.=20
https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D25&products_id=3D422&os=
Csid=3DPYoe2OY2I0duN1IkGnMJ1=20

I have seen articles for installing both, but on carbs with a cable=20
linkage but none with the throttle linkage like the early TRs.

Has anyone installed on or the other on a TR250, TR4, etc that has the=20
rods, levers, bell crank arrangement? If so, how did you make the=20
connection?

Thanks,
Roger Elliott

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<div> <font size="3">I have the Audiovox on my TR6 (which is a close enough analog) without the vacuum canister.&nbsp; Works just fine.&nbsp; I mounted a bracket for the cable on the shelf in the firewall and used the beaded chain attached to the long linkage that runs behind the carbs.&nbsp; I can send pictures if you like.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Roger Elliott &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2019 4:13 pm<br>
Subject: [TR] TR 250 (TR4) Cruise control<br>
<br>

<div dir="ltr">Hi,<br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">We are planning some long excursions this year in the TR 250, so I would <br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">like to install a cruise control in the TR 250.<br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">There have been two basic options mentioned in various posts.<br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">1) The Rostra unit which is more expensive and seems to require have <br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">more installation requirements (for example a sensor on the drive shaft <br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">to register speed.) <br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" removedlink__9b0b24ca-dd89-4b7b-836d-f5fdc5d5a3bd__href="http://www.rostra.com/universal-aftermarket-cruise-control-by-rostra.php">http://www.rostra.com/universal-aftermarket-cruise-control-by-rostra.php</a><br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">2) The recreation of the Audiovox cruise control, which requires a <br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">vacuum canister. Quite a bit cheaper than the Rostra. <br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" removedlink__9b0b24ca-dd89-4b7b-836d-f5fdc5d5a3bd__href="https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?cPath=25&amp;products_id=422&amp;osCsid=PYoe2OY2I0duN1IkGnMJ1">https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?cPath=25&amp;products_id=422&amp;osCsid=PYoe2OY2I0duN1IkGnMJ1 </a><br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">I have seen articles for installing both, but on carbs with a cable <br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">linkage but none with the throttle linkage like the early TRs.<br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">Has anyone installed on or the other on a TR250, TR4, etc that has the <br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">rods, levers, bell crank arrangement? If so, how did you make the <br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">connection?<br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr"><br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">Thanks,<br>
</div>

<div dir="ltr">Roger Elliott<br>
</div>
<br>
</div>
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 15:04:36 +0000 (UTC)

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 That's interesting.=C2=A0 Mike works fine at any speed.=C2=A0 I connected =
the cable to the long linkage that runs behind the carbs to the crank arm.=
=C2=A0 Plenty of throttle action.=C2=A0 I used this same unit on my TR8 unt=
il I wrecked it.
=20
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Kemp <[email-masked]>
To: Roger Elliott <[email-masked]>; triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2019 10:57 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR 250 (TR4) Cruise control

I put an Audiovox cruise control that looks like the one at the link you=20
provided in my TR6 and it only works up to about 45 mph.=C2=A0 The problem =
is=20
that the unit is too weak to directly pull the throttle linkage.=C2=A0 I ma=
de=20
a lever for it, but the cable linkage doesn't have the range to open the=20
throttle enough.=C2=A0 A possible option is to put a much weaker throttle=
=20
return spring in place of the stock one, but I don't consider that safe.

Electrically connecting the Audiovox unit was very easy.=C2=A0 If I recall=
=20
correctly, it just had power, a connection to the brake pedal, and a=20
connection to the coil to monitor the RPM.=C2=A0 For the power and brake=20
pedal, I think I just a double bullet connectors for a quad bullet=20
connectors in the dash/pedal area.=C2=A0 For the coil tach connection, I us=
ed=20
a piggy back spade connector.=C2=A0 I put the controller in an existing hol=
e=20
in the dash support under the radio. It is all removable without=20
damage.=C2=A0 If I remember right, pressing the clutch causes the RPM to=20
change, disengaging the unit.

If anyone made this unit work, please reply to the list as I'm=20
interested.=C2=A0 I'm more after speed control to avoid going too fast than=
=20
efficiency.

Brian

On 1/30/2019 12:28 PM, Roger Elliott wrote:
> Hi,
> We are planning some long excursions this year in the TR 250, so I=20
> would like to install a cruise control in the TR 250.
>
> more installation requirements (for example a sensor on the drive=20
> shaft to register speed.)=20
> https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D25&products_id=3D422&=
osCsid=3DPYoe2OY2I0duN1IkGnMJ1=20
> rods, levers, bell crank arrangement? If so, how did you make the=20

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<font color=3D'black' size=3D'3' face=3D'Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'>
<div> <font size=3D"3">That's interesting.&nbsp; Mike works fine at any spe=
ed.&nbsp; I connected the cable to the long linkage that runs behind the ca=
rbs to the crank arm.&nbsp; Plenty of throttle action.&nbsp; I used this sa=
me unit on my TR8 until I wrecked it.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Brian Kemp &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Roger Elliott &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; triumphs &lt;[email-masked]=
m.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Jan 30, 2019 10:57 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR 250 (TR4) Cruise control<br>
<br>

<div dir=3D"ltr">I put an Audiovox cruise control that looks like the one a=
t the link you <br clear=3D"none">provided in my TR6 and it only works up t=
o about 45 mph.&nbsp; The problem is <br clear=3D"none">that the unit is to=
o weak to directly pull the throttle linkage.&nbsp; I made <br clear=3D"non=
e">a lever for it, but the cable linkage doesn't have the range to open the=
 <br clear=3D"none">throttle enough.&nbsp; A possible option is to put a mu=
ch weaker throttle <br clear=3D"none">return spring in place of the stock o=
ne, but I don't consider that safe.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">El=
ectrically connecting the Audiovox unit was very easy.&nbsp; If I recall <b=
r clear=3D"none">correctly, it just had power, a connection to the brake pe=
dal, and a <br clear=3D"none">connection to the coil to monitor the RPM.&nb=
sp; For the power and brake <br clear=3D"none">pedal, I think I just a doub=
le bullet connectors for a quad bullet <br clear=3D"none">connectors in the=
 dash/pedal area.&nbsp; For the coil tach connection, I used <br clear=3D"n=
one">a piggy back spade connector.&nbsp; I put the controller in an existin=
g hole <br clear=3D"none">in the dash support under the radio. It is all re=
movable without <br clear=3D"none">damage.&nbsp; If I remember right, press=
ing the clutch causes the RPM to <br clear=3D"none">change, disengaging the=
 unit.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">If anyone made this unit work, =
please reply to the list as I'm <br clear=3D"none">interested.&nbsp; I'm mo=
re after speed control to avoid going too fast than <br clear=3D"none">effi=
ciency.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Brian<br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">On 1/30/2019 12:28 PM, Roger Elliott wrote:=
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Hi,<br clear=3D"none">&gt; We are planning some lon=
g excursions this year in the TR 250, so I <br clear=3D"none">&gt; would li=
ke to install a cruise control in the TR 250.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br cle=
ar=3D"none">&gt; There have been two basic options mentioned in various pos=
ts.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; 1) The Rostra unit which is more expensive and s=
eems to require have <br clear=3D"none">&gt; more installation requirements=
 (for example a sensor on the drive <br clear=3D"none">&gt; shaft to regist=
er speed.) <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <a shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noopener noreferrer" removedlink__477e44e2-34a8-4b2e-9ecf-1245d044dc20_=
_href=3D"http://www.rostra.com/universal-aftermarket-cruise-control-by-rost=
ra.php">http://www.rostra.com/universal-aftermarket-cruise-control-by-rostr=
a.php</a><br clear=3D"none">&gt; 2) The recreation of the Audiovox cruise c=
ontrol, which requires a <br clear=3D"none">&gt; vacuum canister. Quite a b=
it cheaper than the Rostra. <br clear=3D"none">&gt; <a shape=3D"rect" targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" removedlink__477e44e2-34a8-4b2e-9e=
cf-1245d044dc20__href=3D"https://www.murphskits.com/product_info.php?cPath=
=3D25&amp;products_id=3D422&amp;osCsid=3DPYoe2OY2I0duN1IkGnMJ1">https://www=
.murphskits.com/product_info.php?cPath=3D25&amp;products_id=3D422&amp;osCsi=
d=3DPYoe2OY2I0duN1IkGnMJ1 </a><br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; I have seen articles for installing both, but on c=
arbs with a cable <br clear=3D"none">&gt; linkage but none with the throttl=
e linkage like the early TRs.<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt;=
 Has anyone installed on or the other on a TR250, TR4, etc that has the <br=
 clear=3D"none">&gt; rods, levers, bell crank arrangement? If so, how did y=
ou make the <br clear=3D"none">&gt; connection?<br clear=3D"none">&gt;<br c=
lear=3D"none">&gt; Thanks,<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Roger Elliott<br clear=3D=
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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 01:24:42 +0000 (UTC)

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 That was back when we were young and impervious.=C2=A0 These days I figure=
 300 miles a day in a TR3 is pushing it.=C2=A0=20
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Carl-TR <[email-masked]>
To: Randall <[email-masked]>
Cc: triumphs <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thu, Jan 31, 2019 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] TR 250 (TR4) Cruise control

In June, 1965 I drove 66 from Springfield, Illinois to LA.=C2=A0 In July, 1=
966 I drove "the southern route" (LA to ElPaso to SanAntonio to Texarkana) =
back to Spfld.=C2=A0 -- All in my 59 Tr3.=C2=A0=20

Between those two trips I also drove from LA to SF to Vancouver to Regina, =
Sask. through Montana, Idaho, Utah, LasVegas back to LA.=C2=A0 With side tr=
ips etc that totaled over 10,000 miles.=20

I found my notebook from the 4,629 mile Canadian trip a couple years ago.=
=C2=A0 Avg gas price $.347.=C2=A0 27.55 mpg (km & liter converted to miles/=
gal). Total cost not including food: gas/oil =3D 64.55. Lodging =3D 138.60 =
(12 nights).=C2=A0 Split cost & driving with a guy I worked with in LA from=
 Warwickshire not far from Coventry.=C2=A0=20

Sure couldn't do that again 54 years later.=C2=A0 After the Army I made an =
east coast run of about 3000 miles.=C2=A0 Didn't make it across the south i=
n that Tr3.

Sent from BlueMail On Jan 31, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Randall <[email-masked]=
m> wrote:
I won't get it done this year (again), but one of my "bucket list" items is

to drive my TR3 over as much as is left of old Route 66, LA to Chicago (or
maybe the other way, haven't decided that yet).

I'd love to go drive the Tail of the Dragon and the Blue Ridge Parkway some
day, but that will probably never happen. Just too dang far from here.
Maybe if I get Dad's TR3A running (which is in Missouri so not quite so far
away from those roads).

-- Randall=20
56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild=20

 Out of curiosity, what are some of the destinations you are=20
 looking at? I would like to do some long trips this summer in=20
 my TR4A, especially since I am retiring this April. Already=20
 have plans to drive from Cincinnati to Watkins Glen in=20
 September but summer is over by then.
 How about the rest of you guys?=20

verizon.net

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From: Carl-TR &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Randall &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: triumphs &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thu, Jan 31, 2019 7:05 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR 250 (TR4) Cruise control<br>
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<div>In June, 1965 I drove 66 from Springfield, Illinois to LA.&nbsp; In Ju=
ly, 1966 I drove "the southern route" (LA to ElPaso to SanAntonio to Texark=
ana) back to Spfld.&nbsp; -- All in my 59 Tr3.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Between those two trips I also drove from LA to SF to Vancouver to Reg=
ina, Sask. through Montana, Idaho, Utah, LasVegas back to LA.&nbsp; With si=
de trips etc that totaled over 10,000 miles. <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div>

<div>I found my notebook from the 4,629 mile Canadian trip a couple years a=
go.&nbsp; Avg gas price $.347.&nbsp; 27.55 mpg (km &amp; liter converted to=
 miles/gal). Total cost not including food: gas/oil =3D 64.55. Lodging =3D =
138.60 (12 nights).&nbsp; Split cost &amp; driving with a guy I worked with=
 in LA from Warwickshire not far from Coventry.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Sure couldn't do that again 54 years later.&nbsp; After the Army I mad=
e an east coast run of about 3000 miles.&nbsp; Didn't make it across the so=
uth in that Tr3.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>Sent from <a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_bla=
nk" removedlink__63b14a4a-2c82-41b7-ae5d-cd9d3e86f2ea__href=3D"http://www.b=
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<div class=3D"yiv5888551440gmail_quote">On Jan 31, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Randal=
l &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tr3dr=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__63b14a4a-2c82-41b7-ae5d-cd9d=
3e86f2ea__href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; w=
rote:<blockquote class=3D"yiv5888551440gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt=
 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;">
<pre class=3D"yiv5888551440blue">I won't get it done this year (again), but=
 one of my "bucket list" items is
<div class=3D"yiv5888551440yqt6418451230" id=3D"yiv5888551440yqtfd40631"><b=
r clear=3D"none">to drive my TR3 over as much as is left of old Route 66, L=
A to Chicago (or<br clear=3D"none">maybe the other way, haven't decided tha=
t yet).<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I'd love to go drive the Tail =
of the Dragon and the Blue Ridge Parkway some<br clear=3D"none">day, but th=
at will probably never happen.  Just too dang far from here.<br clear=3D"no=
ne">Maybe if I get Dad's TR3A running (which is in Missouri so not quite so=
 far<br clear=3D"none">away from those roads).<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">-- Randall <br clear=3D"none">56 TR3 TS13571L once and future dai=
ly driver<br clear=3D"none">71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br cle=
ar=3D"none">71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild <br clear=3D"none"><br c=
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especially since I am retiring  this April. Already <br clear=3D"none"> hav=
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