Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph

From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 17:21:10 -0500

So many suggestions, but if the car is for a young lady, a rack and pinion
conversion would make steering soooo much easier.

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, MIchigan

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Subject: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph

I met a new friend today. He owns a TR3 and has owned it for about 35
years, He did a restoration on it a while back and talked to me about
doing some maintenance on this treasure  because he wants to give it
to his daughter, who is graduating from college this spring.

I reminded him that giving someone a TR3, especially someone not
mechanical inclined, is not necessarily a gift of love.

We discussed some ways in which the TR3 could be a more reliable car
for his daughter. It would not be her primary transportation, just
something to occasionally enjoy, but not become a maintenance burden
or morph into just another non-running TR3 laid up in someone's
garage.

It is bone stock. I have a few ideas about what might be changed to
make it more suitable for a gift, but I'd appreciate some ideas from
the list since what I would do for my TR# might be very different from
what might be best for this young TR3 owner.

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From: Bill Babbitt <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 19:13:03 -0500

I’d recommend an alternator and a modern high speed starter. 

thanks,
Bill

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From: Frank Fisher <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 00:24:37 +0000 (UTC)

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 first up a modern oil filter conversion kit. now she can take it for oil c=
hanges.
frank

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doing some maintenance on this treasure=C2=A0 because he wants to give it
to his daughter, who is graduating from college this spring.

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From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 19:45:16 -0500

How true that is. I helped to install one of those kits into my brother's
TR3A and it became a totally different car - in a positive way. Yes, maybe
the original box could have been reconditioned. But it's hard to imagine
that it could ever be as responsive and as light as the conversion.

Alex Thomson

TR6
GT6

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Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph

Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, MIchigan

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From: Lawarence Schwartz <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 20:10:03 -0500

In addition to Andrew’s  suggestion, one can consider the following a alternator, pertronix, electric fan and a Dan Masters wiring system. Larry Schwartz 

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From: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 01:44:14 +0000

Alternator conversion (and hence +ve ground), add a power outlet for GPS/Phone charging. Convert to electric fan. Three point seat belts. Steering conversion would not be my first thought, the TR3 steering is part of its charm and is fine when it is working properly. A full synchro TR4 gearbox would be a kind gesture. 

Stan

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From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Hoyt Duff
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 2:53 PM
To: Triumph Mail List <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph

I met a new friend today. He owns a TR3 and has owned it for about 35 years, He did a restoration on it a while back and talked to me about doing some maintenance on this treasure  because he wants to give it to his daughter, who is graduating from college this spring.

I reminded him that giving someone a TR3, especially someone not mechanical inclined, is not necessarily a gift of love.

We discussed some ways in which the TR3 could be a more reliable car for his daughter. It would not be her primary transportation, just something to occasionally enjoy, but not become a maintenance burden or morph into just another non-running TR3 laid up in someone's garage.

It is bone stock. I have a few ideas about what might be changed to make it more suitable for a gift, but I'd appreciate some ideas from the list since what I would do for my TR# might be very different from what might be best for this young TR3 owner.

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From: Ken Gano <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 23:42:38 -0600

1. Electronic ignition 

2.  Weber carbs. 

3.  Advance Wire (Dan Masters) wiring harness. 

4. Steel (or Panasport) wheels. (Not wire). 

5.  Gear reduced starter. 

Several other things come to mind, including an aluminum radiator, but those are the very first “reliability” things I would consider. Basically, take away all of the subsystems that can go out of adjustment. 

Ken Gano

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From: Hoyt Duff <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 05:55:25 -0500

On 12/15/18, Lawarence Schwartz <[email-masked]> wrote:
> In addition to Andrew’s  suggestion, one can consider the following a
> alternator, pertronix, electric fan and a Dan Masters wiring system. Larry
> Schwartz
>

This guy?
http://www.britishv8.org/articles/2007-techsession4.htm

Link to his wiring system, please?

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From: Lawarence Schwartz <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 06:35:54 -0500

Hello, “This guy”, yes. A long time friend to me and a former list member Fred Thomas who was a very respected auto buff had upgraded his car years ago and recommended this conversion years ago. FT never gave any false opinions  on constructive upgrades that were not warranted. Larry Schwartz’s 

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From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 07:24:52 -0700

This thread is getting silly. Just bring a car to original factory spec 
with all the parts in spec then have it professionally serviced per the 
factory manual. They were considered dependable drivers when new and 
many that have problems today experience what happens from worn parts 
and delayed maintenance.

TeriAnn

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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 09:58:59 -0500 (EST)

So the profile of the "giftee" is that she's not a mechanic.  The car will be sitting for sometimes extended periods of time?  As a young person just starting out, she likely won't have a lot of money for maintenance and repairs.  

1)  I guess I would teach her about adding gas stabilizer.
2)  Pertronix electronic ignition will reduce the number of tune ups she has to get done.
3)  I'm fond of the fawcett electric fuel pump as a trouble free option, though I know many Listers are fine with the mechanical fuel pump.
4)  I'm wondering if a negative ground conversion would be best, since probably all cars she's familiar with, same as any shade trees she's likely to have working on it, are negative ground.  
5)  An oil filter conversion so's to take a modern spin-on might be easier and cleaner if she or shade tree acquaintence is changing oil.  
6)  Agree with others about a high speed starter.  A good one, though, since I've had one of these burn out after not-so-much use.
7)  Question, not advice:  are tires readily available for the stock rims, or would a wheel conversion be helpful for her?
8)  An electronic list of lubrication points and exactly what lubricant to use in each.

Probably more, but that's what I can think of off the top of my head.  

Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
New Hampshire

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On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 7:52 AM TeriAnn J. Wakeman <[email-masked]>
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> factory manual...

I totally agree.  The TR3 is the most reliable of my British cars and
requires the least attention - due in part to the mere simplicity of many
of the systems.

Adding a litany of enhancements will be more work than simply putting the
stock car into fine fettle.

Geo

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>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">This thread is getting s=
illy. Just bring a car to original factory spec <br>
with all the parts in spec then have it professionally serviced per the <br=
factory manual...<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I totally agree.=C2=
=A0 The TR3 is the most reliable of my British cars and requires the least =
attention - due in part to the mere simplicity of many of the systems.</div=
><div><br></div><div>Adding a litany of enhancements will be more work than=
 simply putting the stock car into fine fettle.</div><div><br></div><div>Ge=
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From: anabil007 <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2018 07:27:32 -0800

Ahmen, Teri, by the time all this stuff is done she will be too old to drive.

But I am fully in favor of the gift, when my daughter asked about getting her first car, I told her that every young lady should have at least have one red convertible, she bought a early Miata (20 years ago ), and still has it.
Part of the learning experience is to solve her problems. My daughter had some small issues with the Miata, and she had to resolve them, when she did it made her (and me) very proud.

Bill Pugh
Wallace, CA

> On Dec 16, 2018, at 6:24 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> This thread is getting silly. Just bring a car to original factory spec with all the parts in spec then have it professionally serviced per the factory manual. They were considered dependable drivers when new and many that have problems today experience what happens from worn parts and delayed maintenance.
> 
> TeriAnn
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From: Chris Simo <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 19:21:08 -0500

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I wonder who will get my cars when I'm gone.

The Tr2 will have electric fan, electronic ignition and disc brakes. There
is a wooden crate with the front drums, balanced fan assembly, and loaded
distributor. I rebuilt and rebushed the carbs, they will likely outlive the
next owner...

The Tr4 has the same with the addition of a chevy alternator and neg ground
conversion. A similar box (with notes) awaits the next owner. I had Webers
on the 4, but recently got Joe Curto to rebush the original carbs, so they
are back and I didn't see much difference last time I did laps at VIR.

These are fine running cars the way they are, but must say I don't mind not
messing with point adjustments....

Sent from my TRASH-80

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> All good advice.   But i think the most important question has not been
> asked.
>
> If she really really wants this car,  what you are doing is quite
> wonderful.   However,  if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a top that
> is difficult to put up,  no power anything, i question whether this is a
> gift or a burden.   I know that my daughter, who is 28, would not like th=
is
> gift.   She had grown up around these cars, and has some understanding of
> what ownership means.   She is very much on board with inheriting my 350z
> convertible,  manual shift.
>
> Just my 2 cents
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I wonder who will get my cars when I&#39;m gone.=C2=A0<di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The Tr2 will have electric fan, =
electronic ignition and disc brakes. There is a wooden crate with the front=
 drums, balanced fan assembly, and loaded distributor. I rebuilt and rebush=
ed the carbs, they will likely outlive the next owner...</div><div dir=3D"a=
uto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The Tr4 has the same with the addition of =
a chevy alternator and neg ground conversion. A similar box (with notes) aw=
aits the next owner. I had Webers on the 4, but recently got Joe Curto to r=
ebush the original carbs, so they are back and I didn&#39;t see much differ=
ence last time I did laps at VIR.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">These are fine running cars the way they are, but must say I don&=
#39;t mind not messing with point adjustments....</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature" dir=3D"auto">Sent from my TRASH-8=
0</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, =
Dec 16, 2018, 12:39 PM dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave@ra=
nteer.com</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>All good =
advice.=C2=A0 =C2=A0But i think the most important question has not been as=
ked.=C2=A0 =C2=A0<div><br></div><div>If she really really wants this car,=
=C2=A0 what you are doing is quite wonderful.=C2=A0 =C2=A0However,=C2=A0 if=
 she is not prepared for sidescreens, a top that is difficult to put up,=C2=
=A0 no power anything<font face=3D"sans-serif">, i question whether this is=
 a gift or a burden.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I know that my daughter, who is 28, would =
not like this gift.=C2=A0 =C2=A0She had grown up around these cars, and has=
 some understanding of what ownership means.=C2=A0 =C2=A0She is very much o=
n board with inheriting my 350z convertible,=C2=A0 manual shift.=C2=A0</fon=
t></div><div><font face=3D"sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"=
sans-serif">Just my 2 cents</font></div><div><br></div><div style=3D"font-s=
ize:100%;color:#000000"></div><div style=3D"font-size:100%;color:#000000"><=
div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: &quot;TeriAnn J. Wak=
eman&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=
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>Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph </div><div><br></div></div>This th=
read is getting silly. Just bring a car to original factory spec <br>with a=
ll the parts in spec then have it professionally serviced per the <br>facto=
ry manual. They were considered dependable drivers when new and <br>many th=
at have problems today experience what happens from worn parts <br>and dela=
yed maintenance.<br><br>TeriAnn<br><br><br>&gt; On 12/15/18, Lawarence Schw=
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From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 21:13:03 -0700

On 12/17/18 5:21 PM, Chris Simo wrote:
> I wonder who will get my cars when I'm gone.Â
>
> The Tr2 will have electric fan, electronic ignition and disc brakes. 
> There is a wooden crate with the front drums, balanced fan assembly, 
> and loaded distributor. I rebuilt and rebushed the carbs, they will 
> likely outlive the next owner...

I also wonder who will get my TR3A. I have no one to hand it down to.

Uprated front axle assemblies, 1 inch front sway bar, competition front 
springs, SPAX shocks, limited slip diff with magnesium diff cover, TR4 
overdrive gearbox, rack and pinion steering, aluminum radiator, electric 
fan, alternator, four tube header, a pair of 45DCOEs on TWM intake 
manifolds, reworked TR4A cylinder head, with intake passages matched to 
the intake manifolds, polished passages, enlarged pockets, and oversize 
valves. Combustion chambers reworked, 10:1 compression, 87mm pistons, 
Mallory distributor and coil, lightened & weight matched rods, nitrided 
crank, harmonic dampener, deep finned oil sump, finned valve cover, 
special rocker arm stands, 280 deg cam, oil cooler, spin on oil filter, 
optional hardtop as well as the soft top & tonneau cover, Lucas driving 
lights, and more. Looks totally stock from the outside.

It is built to be driven and I hope whoever gets it will both maintain 
and drive it.

TeriAnn

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From: Ken Gano <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2018 23:11:47 -0600

Similar build sheet. I always thought one of the three sons would end up with it (built for long distance cruising and admirable at that), but they have no particular interest.  I too, hope it always remains a “driver.”  

Kg

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 17, 2018, at 10:13 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
>> The Tr2 will have electric fan, electronic ignition and disc brakes. There is a wooden crate with the front drums, balanced fan assembly, and loaded distributor. I rebuilt and rebushed the carbs, they will likely outlive the next owner...
> 
> Uprated front axle assemblies, 1 inch front sway bar, competition front springs, SPAX shocks, limited slip diff with magnesium diff cover, TR4 overdrive gearbox, rack and pinion steering, aluminum radiator, electric fan, alternator, four tube header, a pair of 45DCOEs on TWM intake manifolds, reworked TR4A cylinder head, with intake passages matched to the intake manifolds, polished passages, enlarged pockets, and oversize valves. Combustion chambers reworked, 10:1 compression, 87mm pistons, Mallory distributor and coil, lightened & weight matched rods, nitrided crank, harmonic dampener, deep finned oil sump, finned valve cover, special rocker arm stands, 280 deg cam, oil cooler, spin on oil filter, optional hardtop as well as the soft top & tonneau cover, Lucas driving lights, and more. Looks totally stock from the outside.
> 
> It is built to be driven and I hope whoever gets it will both maintain and drive it.
> 
> TeriAnn
>

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From: "Harold Sawatsky" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 17:33:32 -0600

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Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids that all wanted the small mouth =
3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame up and restoring it back to fac=
tory (still working on it but getting there). I have footed the bill for al=
l parts and most will know it=E2=80=99s not cheap. Whoever gets it will dri=
ve it the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Live in Canada and drove it all=
 over the western US as far as Mexico. A great experience. 

Choice of who will get it came down to a few factors. Oldest son wanted it =
because he is the oldest. Unfortunately not mechanically inclined but had n=
o problem getting his hands dirty. Daughter really wanted it because she=E2=
=80=99s my daughter. Have to say I made her take the head off her 1st car t=
o get a valve job done and do oil changes but I was there to help. Great re=
ason but if something happened it would sit. Youngest son wants it AND he h=
as helped in the tear down and the rebuild. He=E2=80=99s a white collar wor=
ker but mechanically inclined. Not afraid to work on it and get er done. He=
=E2=80=99s offered to help paying for the body work. He=E2=80=99s the logic=
al choice. Was always a bit concerned what the others would say but they bo=
th understand completely. Was never a choice to sell it and split the money=
=2E Family heirloom.

My 2 cents

From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:37 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph

All good advice.   But i think the most important question has not been ask=
ed.   

If she really really wants this car,  what you are doing is quite wonderful=
=2E   However,  if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a top that is diffi=
cult to put up,  no power anything, i question whether this is a gift or a =
burden.   I know that my daughter, who is 28, would not like this gift.   S=
he had grown up around these cars, and has some understanding of what owner=
ship means.   She is very much on board with inheriting my 350z convertible=
,  manual shift. 

Just my 2 cents

-------- Original message --------

TeriAnn

>> In addition to Andrew=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s  suggestion, one can cons=
ider the following a
>> alternator, pertronix, electric fan and a Dan Masters wiring system. Lar=
ry

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nk=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lots of i=
mportant questions. I have 3 kids that all wanted the small mouth 3. Daught=
er and 2 sons. I have done a frame up and restoring it back to factory (sti=
ll working on it but getting there). I have footed the bill for all parts a=
nd most will know it=E2=80=99s not cheap. Whoever gets it will drive it the=
 way I did. Not a big deal at all. Live in Canada and drove it all over the=
 western US as far as Mexico. A great experience. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sa=
ns-serif";color:#1F497D'>Choice of who will get it came down to a few facto=
rs. Oldest son wanted it because he is the oldest. Unfortunately not mechan=
ically inclined but had no problem getting his hands dirty. Daughter really=
 wanted it because she=E2=80=99s my daughter. Have to say I made her take t=
he head off her 1<sup>st</sup> car to get a valve job done and do oil chang=
es but I was there to help. Great reason but if something happened it would=
 sit. Youngest son wants it AND he has helped in the tear down and the rebu=
ild. He=E2=80=99s a white collar worker but mechanically inclined. Not afra=
id to work on it and get er done. He=E2=80=99s offered to help paying for t=
he body work. He=E2=80=99s the logical choice. Was always a bit concerned w=
hat the others would say but they both understand completely. Was never a c=
hoice to sell it and split the money. Family heirloom.<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri"=
,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color=
:#1F497D'>My 2 cents<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p=
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C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=
=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Triumphs [=
mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dave<br><b>Sent=
:</b> Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked].=
net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=
All good advice.&nbsp; &nbsp;But i think the most important question has no=
t been asked.&nbsp; &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>If she really really wants thi=
s car,&nbsp; what you are doing is quite wonderful.&nbsp; &nbsp;However,&nb=
sp; if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a top that is difficult to put =
up,&nbsp; no power anything<span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'=
>, i question whether this is a gift or a burden.&nbsp; &nbsp;I know that m=
y daughter, who is 28, would not like this gift.&nbsp; &nbsp;She had grown =
up around these cars, and has some understanding of what ownership means.&n=
bsp; &nbsp;She is very much on board with inheriting my 350z convertible,&n=
bsp; manual shift.&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
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/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'=
>From: &quot;TeriAnn J. Wakeman&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman@gmail=
=2Ecom">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cla=
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</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;=
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lly. Just bring a car to original factory spec <br>with all the parts in sp=
ec then have it professionally serviced per the <br>factory manual. They we=
re considered dependable drivers when new and <br>many that have problems t=
oday experience what happens from worn parts <br>and delayed maintenance.<b=
r><br>TeriAnn<br><br><br>&gt; On 12/15/18, Lawarence Schwartz &lt;<a href=
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From: Sujit Roy <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 16:38:15 -0800

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Harold,
You need buy another couple of Triumphs to keep them all happy.

I have another twist which came from the trust lawyer. Just because you
like something, don't hand it down your kids They will hate you. I have
Stag and working on another. I cant see traits in neither of my boys (16
and 11 years)   working on cars. The Stag runs OK, but I'm on top of it.

Sujit

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids that all wanted the small mout=
h
> 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame up and restoring it back to
> factory (still working on it but getting there). I have footed the bill f=
or
> all parts and most will know it=E2=80=99s not cheap. Whoever gets it will=
 drive it
> the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Live in Canada and drove it all ove=
r
> the western US as far as Mexico. A great experience.
>
> Choice of who will get it came down to a few factors. Oldest son wanted i=
t
> because he is the oldest. Unfortunately not mechanically inclined but had
> no problem getting his hands dirty. Daughter really wanted it because she=
=E2=80=99s
> my daughter. Have to say I made her take the head off her 1st car to get
> a valve job done and do oil changes but I was there to help. Great reason
> but if something happened it would sit. Youngest son wants it AND he has
> helped in the tear down and the rebuild. He=E2=80=99s a white collar work=
er but
> mechanically inclined. Not afraid to work on it and get er done. He=E2=80=
=99s
> offered to help paying for the body work. He=E2=80=99s the logical choice=
. Was
> always a bit concerned what the others would say but they both understand
> completely. Was never a choice to sell it and split the money. Family
> heirloom.
>
>
>
> My 2 cents
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] *On Behalf Of *
> dave
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:37 AM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Harold,<div>You need buy another couple of Triumphs to kee=
p them all happy.</div><div><br></div><div>I have another twist which came =
from the trust lawyer. Just because you like something, don&#39;t hand it d=
own your kids They will hate you. I have=C2=A0 Stag and working on another.=
 I cant see traits in neither of my boys (16 and 11 years)=C2=A0 =C2=A0work=
ing on cars. The Stag runs OK, but I&#39;m on top=C2=A0of it.=C2=A0</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Sujit</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div clas=
s=3D"gmail-m_-3883146468145062672WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125=
)">Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids that all wanted the small mou=
th 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame up and restoring it back to =
factory (still working on it but getting there). I have footed the bill for=
 all parts and most will know it=E2=80=99s not cheap. Whoever gets it will =
drive it the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Live in Canada and drove it =
all over the western US as far as Mexico. A great experience. <u></u><u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-famil=
y:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Choice of who will get it came d=
own to a few factors. Oldest son wanted it because he is the oldest. Unfort=
unately not mechanically inclined but had no problem getting his hands dirt=
y. Daughter really wanted it because she=E2=80=99s my daughter. Have to say=
 I made her take the head off her 1<sup>st</sup> car to get a valve job don=
e and do oil changes but I was there to help. Great reason but if something=
 happened it would sit. Youngest son wants it AND he has helped in the tear=
 down and the rebuild. He=E2=80=99s a white collar worker but mechanically =
inclined. Not afraid to work on it and get er done. He=E2=80=99s offered to=
 help paying for the body work. He=E2=80=99s the logical choice. Was always=
 a bit concerned what the others would say but they both understand complet=
ely. Was never a choice to sell it and split the money. Family heirloom.<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;=
font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:C=
alibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">My 2 cents<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div sty=
le=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt =
solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Triumphs [mailto=
:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">trium=
[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Su=
nday, December 16, 2018 10:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All good=
 advice.=C2=A0 =C2=A0But i think the most important question has not been a=
sked.=C2=A0 =C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">If she really really wants =
this car,=C2=A0 what you are doing is quite wonderful.=C2=A0 =C2=A0However,=
=C2=A0 if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a top that is difficult to p=
ut up,=C2=A0 no power anything<span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">=
, i question whether this is a gift or a burden.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I know that my=
 daughter, who is 28, would not like this gift.=C2=A0 =C2=A0She had grown u=
p around these cars, and has some understanding of what ownership means.=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0She is very much on board with inheriting my 350z convertible,=C2=
=A0 manual shift.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Just my 2 cents</span><u></u><u></u></p>=
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From: Harold Sawatsky <[email-masked]>
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Can't afford 2 more but thanks anyway LOL. A happy bunch of kids!!!

> On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Sujit Roy <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> Harold,
> I have another twist which came from the trust lawyer. Just because you li=
ke something, don't hand it down your kids They will hate you. I have  Stag a=
nd working on another. I cant see traits in neither of my boys (16 and 11 ye=
ars)   working on cars. The Stag runs OK, but I'm on top of it.=20
>=20
> Sujit
>=20
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky <[email-masked]> wr=
>> Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids that all wanted the small mout=
h 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame up and restoring it back to fa=
ctory (still working on it but getting there). I have footed the bill for al=
l parts and most will know it=E2=80=99s not cheap. Whoever gets it will driv=
e it the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Live in Canada and drove it all o=
ver the western US as far as Mexico. A great experience.
>> Choice of who will get it came down to a few factors. Oldest son wanted i=
t because he is the oldest. Unfortunately not mechanically inclined but had n=
o problem getting his hands dirty. Daughter really wanted it because she=E2=80=
=99s my daughter. Have to say I made her take the head off her 1st car to ge=
t a valve job done and do oil changes but I was there to help. Great reason b=
ut if something happened it would sit. Youngest son wants it AND he has help=
ed in the tear down and the rebuild. He=E2=80=99s a white collar worker but m=
echanically inclined. Not afraid to work on it and get er done. He=E2=80=99s=
 offered to help paying for the body work. He=E2=80=99s the logical choice. W=
as always a bit concerned what the others would say but they both understand=
 completely. Was never a choice to sell it and split the money. Family heirl=
oom.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> My 2 cents
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of dave=

>> All good advice.   But i think the most important question has not been a=
sked.  =20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> If she really really wants this car,  what you are doing is quite wonderf=
ul.   However,  if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a top that is diffic=
ult to put up,  no power anything, i question whether this is a gift or a bu=
rden.   I know that my daughter, who is 28, would not like this gift.   She h=
ad grown up around these cars, and has some understanding of what ownership m=
eans.   She is very much on board with inheriting my 350z convertible,  manu=
al shift.=20
>> This thread is getting silly. Just bring a car to original factory spec=20=

>> with all the parts in spec then have it professionally serviced per the=20=

>> factory manual. They were considered dependable drivers when new and=20
>> many that have problems today experience what happens from worn parts=20
>> and delayed maintenance.
>>=20
>> TeriAnn
>>=20
>>=20
nsider the following a
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div></div><div>Can't afford 2 more but tha=
nks anyway LOL. A happy bunch of kids!!!</div><div><br>On Dec 18, 2018, at 6=
:38 PM, Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">triumphstag@g=
mail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Harold,<div>You need buy another couple of Triumphs to keep them al=
l happy.</div><div><br></div><div>I have another twist which came from the t=
rust lawyer. Just because you like something, don't hand it down your kids T=
hey will hate you. I have&nbsp; Stag and working on another. I cant see trai=
ts in neither of my boys (16 and 11 years)&nbsp; &nbsp;working on cars. The S=
tag runs OK, but I'm on top&nbsp;of it.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Sujit=
</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2=
018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">h=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-3883146468145062=
672WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Lots of important questions. I=
 have 3 kids that all wanted the small mouth 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have d=
one a frame up and restoring it back to factory (still working on it but get=
ting there). I have footed the bill for all parts and most will know it=E2=80=
=99s not cheap. Whoever gets it will drive it the way I did. Not a big deal a=
t all. Live in Canada and drove it all over the western US as far as Mexico.=
 A great experience. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">=
Choice of who will get it came down to a few factors. Oldest son wanted it b=
ecause he is the oldest. Unfortunately not mechanically inclined but had no p=
roblem getting his hands dirty. Daughter really wanted it because she=E2=80=99=
s my daughter. Have to say I made her take the head off her 1<sup>st</sup> c=
ar to get a valve job done and do oil changes but I was there to help. Great=
 reason but if something happened it would sit. Youngest son wants it AND he=
 has helped in the tear down and the rebuild. He=E2=80=99s a white collar wo=
rker but mechanically inclined. Not afraid to work on it and get er done. He=
=E2=80=99s offered to help paying for the body work. He=E2=80=99s the logica=
l choice. Was always a bit concerned what the others would say but they both=
 understand completely. Was never a choice to sell it and split the money. Fa=
mily heirloom.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>=
&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt=
;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">My 2 cents<u></u><u></=
u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-famil=
y:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><d=
iv><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;borde=
r-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span=
></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Triumphs [=
mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b=
> Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:37 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:triumph=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subjec=
t:</b> Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All good=
 advice.&nbsp; &nbsp;But i think the most important question has not been as=
ked.&nbsp; &nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;=
<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">If she really really wants this=
 car,&nbsp; what you are doing is quite wonderful.&nbsp; &nbsp;However,&nbsp=
; if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a top that is difficult to put up,=
&nbsp; no power anything<span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">, i que=
stion whether this is a gift or a burden.&nbsp; &nbsp;I know that my daughte=
r, who is 28, would not like this gift.&nbsp; &nbsp;She had grown up around t=
hese cars, and has some understanding of what ownership means.&nbsp; &nbsp;S=
he is very much on board with inheriting my 350z convertible,&nbsp; manual s=
hift.&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u=
>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fami=
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rmal"><span style=3D"color:black">-------- Original message --------<u></u><=
u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:blac=
k">From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Date: 12/16/18 8:24 AM=
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n style=3D"color:black">To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Subject: Re: [TR] The Gi=
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span style=3D"color:black"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div></div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">This thread is getting silly. Just bring a car to original f=
actory spec <br>with all the parts in spec then have it professionally servi=
ced per the <br>factory manual. They were considered dependable drivers when=
 new and <br>many that have problems today experience what happens from worn=
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18, Lawarence Schwartz &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; In addition to Andrew=C3=A2=E2=82=
=AC=E2=84=A2s&nbsp; suggestion, one can consider the following a<br>&gt;&gt;=
 alternator, pertronix, electric fan and a Dan Masters wiring system. Larry<=
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Luckily (at least so far) my kids love the old man :) My son that is most ca=
pable actually really likes the 3. Everyone is really looking forward to get=
ting in and taking a turn driving the relic. Way too much of completing the r=
estoration is in my head so we better finish up soon cause ya never know !!!=
 Trust me, it's all fun. Great experience with all the kids and grandkids. Y=
ou guys should all enjoy these antiques and pass on as much as you can to th=
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div></div><div>Luckily (at least so far) m=
y kids love the old man :) My son that is most capable actually really likes=
 the 3. Everyone is really looking forward to getting in and taking a turn d=
riving the relic. Way too much of completing the restoration is in my head s=
o we better finish up soon cause ya never know !!! Trust me, it's all fun. G=
reat experience with all the kids and grandkids. You guys should all enjoy t=
hese antiques and pass on as much as you can to the next generation.&nbsp;</=
div><div><br>On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Sujit Roy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Harold,<div>You need buy another c=
ouple of Triumphs to keep them all happy.</div><div><br></div><div>I have an=
other twist which came from the trust lawyer. Just because you like somethin=
g, don't hand it down your kids They will hate you. I have&nbsp; Stag and wo=
rking on another. I cant see traits in neither of my boys (16 and 11 years)&=
nbsp; &nbsp;working on cars. The Stag runs OK, but I'm on top&nbsp;of it.&nb=
sp;</div><div><br></div><div>Sujit</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"><div=
 class=3D"gmail-m_-3883146468145062672WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,=
125)">Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids that all wanted the small m=
outh 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame up and restoring it back to=
 factory (still working on it but getting there). I have footed the bill for=
 all parts and most will know it=E2=80=99s not cheap. Whoever gets it will d=
rive it the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Live in Canada and drove it al=
l over the western US as far as Mexico. A great experience. <u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Ca=
libri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Choice of who will get it came down t=
o a few factors. Oldest son wanted it because he is the oldest. Unfortunatel=
y not mechanically inclined but had no problem getting his hands dirty. Daug=
hter really wanted it because she=E2=80=99s my daughter. Have to say I made h=
er take the head off her 1<sup>st</sup> car to get a valve job done and do o=
il changes but I was there to help. Great reason but if something happened i=
t would sit. Youngest son wants it AND he has helped in the tear down and th=
e rebuild. He=E2=80=99s a white collar worker but mechanically inclined. Not=
 afraid to work on it and get er done. He=E2=80=99s offered to help paying f=
or the body work. He=E2=80=99s the logical choice. Was always a bit concerne=
d what the others would say but they both understand completely. Was never a=
 choice to sell it and split the money. Family heirloom.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibr=
i,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;col=
or:rgb(31,73,125)">My 2 cents<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,7=
3,125)"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-right:none;=
border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);pa=
dding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;=
font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:37 A=
M<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] The Gift of a Trium=
ph<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<=
u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">All good advice.&nbsp; &nbsp;But i think th=
e most important question has not been asked.&nbsp; &nbsp;<u></u><u></u></p>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">If she really really wants this car,&nbsp; what you are doing is q=
uite wonderful.&nbsp; &nbsp;However,&nbsp; if she is not prepared for sidesc=
reens, a top that is difficult to put up,&nbsp; no power anything<span style=
=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">, i question whether this is a gift or a b=
urden.&nbsp; &nbsp;I know that my daughter, who is 28, would not like this g=
ift.&nbsp; &nbsp;She had grown up around these cars, and has some understand=
ing of what ownership means.&nbsp; &nbsp;She is very much on board with inhe=
riting my 350z convertible,&nbsp; manual shift.&nbsp;</span><u></u><u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u></u></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Just my 2 cen=
ts</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>&nbsp;<u=
></u></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">=
-------- Original message --------<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"color:black">Date: 12/16/18 8:24 AM (GMT-06:00) <u></u><u></u></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">To: <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
et</a> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:black">Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph <u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u>=
&nbsp;<u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This thread is ge=
tting silly. Just bring a car to original factory spec <br>with all the part=
s in spec then have it professionally serviced per the <br>factory manual. T=
hey were considered dependable drivers when new and <br>many that have probl=
ems today experience what happens from worn parts <br>and delayed maintenanc=
e.<br><br>TeriAnn<br><br><br>&gt; On 12/15/18, Lawarence Schwartz &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
>&gt;&gt; In addition to Andrew=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s&nbsp; suggestion, o=
ne can consider the following a<br>&gt;&gt; alternator, pertronix, electric f=
an and a Dan Masters wiring system. Larry<br>&gt;&gt; Schwartz<br>&gt;&gt;<b=
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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2018 14:20:01 -0500 (EST)

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Am lucky in having two generations who love the car.  The one pictured here=
 is my youngest son Connor with his nephew, my grandson.  Connor was milita=
ry intelligence in the army, served in the Middle East.  Now he's studying =
Engineering at UNH.  Before that, when he was 12 years old in 7th grade, I =
drove him around in the TR3 with the top down.  I made the mistake of teach=
ing him that, if a car is tailgating behind you, all you had to do was make=
 a show of spittting straight up into the air and letting the air current d=
o the rest.  I think it was all he could think of for the next year as he r=
ode with me.  We lost a lot of saliva on Route 3A.  Just saying.  Ever sinc=
e he got his drivers license, he's pestered me to let him drive it.  I'd ha=
ve let him take it to the senior prom, but it was undergoing an engine rebu=
ild at the time.=20

I've always wondered, though, and perhaps you all have some thoughts, about=
 how long we can count on having TRF and Moss Motors supplying such amazing=
 support for these cars?

Terry Smith, '59 TR3A

New Hampshire

> On December 19, 2018 at 8:06 PM Harold Sawatsky <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
>=20
>     =20
>     Luckily (at least so far) my kids love the old man :) My son that is =
most capable actually really likes the 3. Everyone is really looking forwar=
d to getting in and taking a turn driving the relic. Way too much of comple=
ting the restoration is in my head so we better finish up soon cause ya nev=
er know !!! Trust me, it's all fun. Great experience with all the kids and =
grandkids. You guys should all enjoy these antiques and pass on as much as =
you can to the next generation.=20
>=20
>     On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Sujit Roy < [email-masked] mailto=
:[email-masked] > wrote:
> >         I have another twist which came from the trust lawyer. Just bec=
ause you like something, don't hand it down your kids They will hate you. I=
 have  Stag and working on another. I cant see traits in neither of my boys=
 (16 and 11 years)   working on cars. The Stag runs OK, but I'm on top of i=
t.=20
> >=20
> >         Sujit
> >=20
> >         On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky < hsawatsk@sask=
tel.net mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> >=20
> >             > > >=20
> > >             Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids that all wante=
d the small mouth 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame up and restor=
ing it back to factory (still working on it but getting there). I have foot=
ed the bill for all parts and most will know it=E2=80=99s not cheap. Whoeve=
r gets it will drive it the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Live in Canad=
a and drove it all over the western US as far as Mexico. A great experience=
.
> > >=20
> > >             Choice of who will get it came down to a few factors. Old=
est son wanted it because he is the oldest. Unfortunately not mechanically =
inclined but had no problem getting his hands dirty. Daughter really wanted=
 it because she=E2=80=99s my daughter. Have to say I made her take the head=
 off her 1st car to get a valve job done and do oil changes but I was there=
 to help. Great reason but if something happened it would sit. Youngest son=
 wants it AND he has helped in the tear down and the rebuild. He=E2=80=99s =
a white collar worker but mechanically inclined. Not afraid to work on it a=
nd get er done. He=E2=80=99s offered to help paying for the body work. He=
=E2=80=99s the logical choice. Was always a bit concerned what the others w=
ould say but they both understand completely. Was never a choice to sell it=
 and split the money. Family heirloom.
> > >=20
> > >             =20
> > >=20
> > >             My 2 cents
> > >=20
> > >             =20
> > >=20
> > >             From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked] ma=
ilto:[email-masked] ] On Behalf Of dave
> > >             To: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]=
t
> > >             All good advice.   But i think the most important questio=
n has not been asked.  =20
> > >=20
> > >             =20
> > >=20
> > >             If she really really wants this car,  what you are doing =
is quite wonderful.   However,  if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a t=
op that is difficult to put up,  no power anything, i question whether this=
 is a gift or a burden.   I know that my daughter, who is 28, would not lik=
e this gift.   She had grown up around these cars, and has some understandi=
ng of what ownership means.   She is very much on board with inheriting my =
350z convertible,  manual shift.=20
> > >             From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked] mailto:tj=
[email-masked] >
> > >             To: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]=
t
> > >             This thread is getting silly. Just bring a car to origina=
l factory spec
> > >             with all the parts in spec then have it professionally se=
rviced per the
> > >             factory manual. They were considered dependable drivers w=
hen new and
> > >             many that have problems today experience what happens fro=
m worn parts
> > >             and delayed maintenance.
> > >=20
> > >             TeriAnn
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >             > On 12/15/18, Lawarence Schwartz <[email-masked] mailto:L=
[email-masked] > wrote:
> > >             >> In addition to Andrew=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s  sugges=
tion, one can consider the following a
> > >             >> alternator, pertronix, electric fan and a Dan Masters =
wiring system. Larry
> > >             >> Schwartz
> > >             >>
> > >=20
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Am lucky in having two generations who l=
ove the car.&#160; The one pictured here is my youngest son Connor with his=
 nephew, my grandson.&#160; Connor was military intelligence in the army, s=
erved in the Middle East.&#160; Now he&#39;s studying Engineering at UNH.&#=
160; Before that, when he was 12 years old in 7th grade, I drove him around=
 in the TR3 with the top down.&#160; I made the mistake of teaching him tha=
t, if a car is tailgating behind you, all you had to do was make a show of =
spittting straight up into the air and letting the air current do the rest.=
&#160; I think it was all he could think of for the next year as he rode wi=
th me.&#160; We lost a lot of saliva on Route 3A.&#160; Just saying.&#160; =
Ever since he got his drivers license, he&#39;s pestered me to let him driv=
e it.&#160; I&#39;d have let him take it to the senior prom, but it was und=
ergoing an engine rebuild at the time.&#160; <br></p><p style=3D"font-size:=
 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">=
<br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-se=
rif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I&#39;ve always wondered, though, and perhaps=
 you all have some thoughts, about how long we can count on having TRF and =
Moss Motors supplying such amazing support for these cars?<br></p><p style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(=
51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, =
arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Terry Smith, &#39;59 TR3A<br></=
p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; c=
olor: rgb(51, 51, 51);">New Hampshire<br></p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On D=
ecember 19, 2018 at 8:06 PM Harold Sawatsky &#60;[email-masked]&#62; =
wrote: <br> <br><div>&#160;<br></div><div>Luckily (at least so far) my kids=
 love the old man :) My son that is most capable actually really likes the =
3. Everyone is really looking forward to getting in and taking a turn drivi=
ng the relic. Way too much of completing the restoration is in my head so w=
e better finish up soon cause ya never know !!! Trust me, it&#39;s all fun.=
 Great experience with all the kids and grandkids. You guys should all enjo=
y these antiques and pass on as much as you can to the next generation.&#16=
0;</div><div><br>On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Sujit Roy &#60; <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&#62; wrote: <br> <br>=
</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Harold,<div>You need =
buy another couple of Triumphs to keep them all happy.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>I have another twist which came from the trust lawyer. Just because yo=
u like something, don&#39;t hand it down your kids They will hate you. I ha=
ve&#160; Stag and working on another. I cant see traits in neither of my bo=
ys (16 and 11 years)&#160; &#160;working on cars. The Stag runs OK, but I&#=
39;m on top&#160;of it.&#160;</div><div><br></div><div>Sujit</div></div><br=
><div class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Dec 18, =
2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky &#60; <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&#62; wrote: <br></div><blockquote><div><div cla=
ss=3D"ox-d483c0c531-gmail-m_-3883146468145062672WordSection1"><p class=3D"o=
x-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibr=
i,sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids t=
hat all wanted the small mouth 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame =
up and restoring it back to factory (still working on it but getting there)=
. I have footed the bill for all parts and most will know it&#8217;s not ch=
eap. Whoever gets it will drive it the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Li=
ve in Canada and drove it all over the western US as far as Mexico. A great=
 experience. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: #1f=
497d;">Choice of who will get it came down to a few factors. Oldest son wan=
ted it because he is the oldest. Unfortunately not mechanically inclined bu=
t had no problem getting his hands dirty. Daughter really wanted it because=
 she&#8217;s my daughter. Have to say I made her take the head off her 1<su=
p>st</sup> car to get a valve job done and do oil changes but I was there t=
o help. Great reason but if something happened it would sit. Youngest son w=
ants it AND he has helped in the tear down and the rebuild. He&#8217;s a wh=
ite collar worker but mechanically inclined. Not afraid to work on it and g=
et er done. He&#8217;s offered to help paying for the body work. He&#8217;s=
 the logical choice. Was always a bit concerned what the others would say b=
ut they both understand completely. Was never a choice to sell it and split=
 the money. Family heirloom.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c=
531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-se=
rif; color: #1f497d;"><u></u>&#160;<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c=
531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-se=
rif; color: #1f497d;">My 2 cents<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"ox-d48=
3c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,san=
s-serif; color: #1f497d;"><u></u>&#160;<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D=
"border-right: none; border-bottom: none; border-left: none; border-top: 1p=
t solid #b5c4df; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal=
"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif;">=
From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sa=
ns-serif;"> Triumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>=
] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>dave<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday, Dece=
mber 16, 2018 10:37 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</=
a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph<u></u><u></u=
></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><u></u>&#160;<=
u></u></p><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal">All good advice.&#160; &#160=
;But i think the most important question has not been asked.&#160; &#160;<u=
></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><u></u>&#160;<u><=
/u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal">If she really really=
 wants this car,&#160; what you are doing is quite wonderful.&#160; &#160;H=
owever,&#160; if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a top that is difficu=
lt to put up,&#160; no power anything<span style=3D"font-family: Arial,sans=
-serif;">, i question whether this is a gift or a burden.&#160; &#160;I kno=
w that my daughter, who is 28, would not like this gift.&#160; &#160;She ha=
d grown up around these cars, and has some understanding of what ownership =
means.&#160; &#160;She is very much on board with inheriting my 350z conver=
tible,&#160; manual shift.&#160;</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><u></u>&#160;<u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;"=
>Just my 2 cents</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c5=
31-MsoNormal"><u></u>&#160;<u></u></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0=
c531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: black;">-------- Original message ---=
-----<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"color: black;">From: &#34;TeriAnn J. Wakeman&#34; &#60;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">tjw=
[email-masked]</a>&#62; <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"o=
x-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: black;">Date: 12/16/18 8:24 A=
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tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a=
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<span style=3D"color: black;">Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph <u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color: black;"><u></u>&#160;<u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=
=3D"ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal">This thread is getting silly. Just bring a car=
 to original factory spec <br>with all the parts in spec then have it profe=
ssionally serviced per the <br>factory manual. They were considered dependa=
ble drivers when new and <br>many that have problems today experience what =
happens from worn parts <br>and delayed maintenance.<br><br>TeriAnn<br><br>=
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com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">[email-masked]</a>&#62; wrote:<br>&#=
62;&#62; In addition to Andrew&#226;&#8364;=E2=84=A2s&#160; suggestion, one=
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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2018 09:26:24 -0500 (EST)

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Sending again

> On December 20, 2018 at 2:51 PM TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>     Oops.  Forgot the attachment.
>=20
>         > > On December 20, 2018 at 2:20 PM TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.=
net> wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> >         Am lucky in having two generations who love the car.  The one p=
ictured here is my youngest son Connor with his nephew, my grandson.  Conno=
r was military intelligence in the army, served in the Middle East.  Now he=
's studying Engineering at UNH.  Before that, when he was 12 years old in 7=
th grade, I drove him around in the TR3 with the top down.  I made the mist=
ake of teaching him that, if a car is tailgating behind you, all you had to=
 do was make a show of spittting straight up into the air and letting the a=
ir current do the rest.  I think it was all he could think of for the next =
year as he rode with me.  We lost a lot of saliva on Route 3A.  Just saying=
.  Ever since he got his drivers license, he's pestered me to let him drive=
 it.  I'd have let him take it to the senior prom, but it was undergoing an=
 engine rebuild at the time.=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >         I've always wondered, though, and perhaps you all have some tho=
ughts, about how long we can count on having TRF and Moss Motors supplying =
such amazing support for these cars?
> >=20
> >=20
> >         Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
> >=20
> >         New Hampshire
> >=20
> >             > > > On December 19, 2018 at 8:06 PM Harold Sawatsky <hsaw=
[email-masked]> wrote:
> > >=20
> > >             =20
> > >             Luckily (at least so far) my kids love the old man :) My =
son that is most capable actually really likes the 3. Everyone is really lo=
oking forward to getting in and taking a turn driving the relic. Way too mu=
ch of completing the restoration is in my head so we better finish up soon =
cause ya never know !!! Trust me, it's all fun. Great experience with all t=
he kids and grandkids. You guys should all enjoy these antiques and pass on=
 as much as you can to the next generation.=20
> > >=20
> > >             On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Sujit Roy < triumphstag@gmai=
l.com mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > >                 > > > >                 Harold,
> > > >                 You need buy another couple of Triumphs to keep the=
m all happy.
> > > >=20
> > > >                 I have another twist which came from the trust lawy=
er. Just because you like something, don't hand it down your kids They will=
 hate you. I have  Stag and working on another. I cant see traits in neithe=
r of my boys (16 and 11 years)   working on cars. The Stag runs OK, but I'm=
 on top of it.=20
> > > >=20
> > > >                 Sujit
> > > >=20
> > > >                 On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky < h=
[email-masked] mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > > >=20
> > > >                     > > > > >=20
> > > > >                     Lots of important questions. I have 3 kids th=
at all wanted the small mouth 3. Daughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame u=
p and restoring it back to factory (still working on it but getting there).=
 I have footed the bill for all parts and most will know it=E2=80=99s not c=
heap. Whoever gets it will drive it the way I did. Not a big deal at all. L=
ive in Canada and drove it all over the western US as far as Mexico. A grea=
t experience.
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     Choice of who will get it came down to a few =
factors. Oldest son wanted it because he is the oldest. Unfortunately not m=
echanically inclined but had no problem getting his hands dirty. Daughter r=
eally wanted it because she=E2=80=99s my daughter. Have to say I made her t=
ake the head off her 1st car to get a valve job done and do oil changes but=
 I was there to help. Great reason but if something happened it would sit. =
Youngest son wants it AND he has helped in the tear down and the rebuild. H=
e=E2=80=99s a white collar worker but mechanically inclined. Not afraid to =
work on it and get er done. He=E2=80=99s offered to help paying for the bod=
y work. He=E2=80=99s the logical choice. Was always a bit concerned what th=
e others would say but they both understand completely. Was never a choice =
to sell it and split the money. Family heirloom.
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     =20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     My 2 cents
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     =20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox=
.team.net mailto:[email-masked] ] On Behalf Of dave
> > > > >                     To: [email-masked] mailto:triumphs@a=
utox.team.net
> > > > >                     All good advice.   But i think the most impor=
tant question has not been asked.  =20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     =20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     If she really really wants this car,  what yo=
u are doing is quite wonderful.   However,  if she is not prepared for side=
screens, a top that is difficult to put up,  no power anything, i question =
whether this is a gift or a burden.   I know that my daughter, who is 28, w=
ould not like this gift.   She had grown up around these cars, and has some=
 understanding of what ownership means.   She is very much on board with in=
heriting my 350z convertible,  manual shift.=20
> > > > >                     From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]=
om mailto:[email-masked] >
> > > > >                     To: [email-masked] mailto:triumphs@a=
utox.team.net
> > > > >                     This thread is getting silly. Just bring a ca=
r to original factory spec
> > > > >                     with all the parts in spec then have it profe=
ssionally serviced per the
> > > > >                     factory manual. They were considered dependab=
le drivers when new and
> > > > >                     many that have problems today experience what=
 happens from worn parts
> > > > >                     and delayed maintenance.
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     TeriAnn
> > > > >=20
> > > > >=20
> > > > >                     > On 12/15/18, Lawarence Schwartz <L1j1s@aol.=
com mailto:[email-masked] > wrote:
> > > > >                     >> In addition to Andrew=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=
=A2s  suggestion, one can consider the following a
> > > > >                     >> alternator, pertronix, electric fan and a =
Dan Masters wiring system. Larry
> > > > >                     >> Schwartz
> > > > >                     >>
> > > > >=20
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tox.team.net **
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hs  http://www.team.net/archive
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  <br>
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    On December 20, 2018 at 2:51 PM TERRY SMITH &#60;[email-masked]&#6=
2; wrote:
   <br>
   <br>
   <p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; =
color: rgb(51,51,51);">Oops.&#160; Forgot the attachment.<br></p>
   <blockquote type=3D"cite">
    On December 20, 2018 at 2:20 PM TERRY SMITH &#60;[email-masked]&#6=
2; wrote:=20
    <br>=20
    <br>
    <p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: #333333;">Am lucky in having two generations who love the car.&#160=
; The one pictured here is my youngest son Connor with his nephew, my grand=
son.&#160; Connor was military intelligence in the army, served in the Midd=
le East.&#160; Now he&#39;s studying Engineering at UNH.&#160; Before that,=
 when he was 12 years old in 7th grade, I drove him around in the TR3 with =
the top down.&#160; I made the mistake of teaching him that, if a car is ta=
ilgating behind you, all you had to do was make a show of spittting straigh=
t up into the air and letting the air current do the rest.&#160; I think it=
 was all he could think of for the next year as he rode with me.&#160; We l=
ost a lot of saliva on Route 3A.&#160; Just saying.&#160; Ever since he got=
 his drivers license, he&#39;s pestered me to let him drive it.&#160; I&#39=
;d have let him take it to the senior prom, but it was undergoing an engine=
 rebuild at the time.&#160; <br></p>
    <p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: #333333;"><br></p>
    <p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: #333333;">I&#39;ve always wondered, though, and perhaps you all hav=
e some thoughts, about how long we can count on having TRF and Moss Motors =
supplying such amazing support for these cars?<br></p>
    <p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: #333333;"><br></p>
    <p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: #333333;">Terry Smith, &#39;59 TR3A<br></p>
    <p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif;=
 color: #333333;">New Hampshire<br></p>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     On December 19, 2018 at 8:06 PM Harold Sawatsky &#60;hsawatsk@sasktel.=
net&#62; wrote:=20
     <br>=20
     <br>
     <div>
      &#160;=20
      <br>
     </div>
     <div>
      Luckily (at least so far) my kids love the old man :) My son that is =
most capable actually really likes the 3. Everyone is really looking forwar=
d to getting in and taking a turn driving the relic. Way too much of comple=
ting the restoration is in my head so we better finish up soon cause ya nev=
er know !!! Trust me, it&#39;s all fun. Great experience with all the kids =
and grandkids. You guys should all enjoy these antiques and pass on as much=
 as you can to the next generation.&#160;
     </div>
     <div>
      <br>On Dec 18, 2018, at 6:38 PM, Sujit Roy &#60;=20
      <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&#6=
2; wrote:=20
      <br>=20
      <br>
     </div>
     <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div>
       <div dir=3D"ltr">
        Harold,
        <div>
         You need buy another couple of Triumphs to keep them all happy.
        </div>
        <div>
         <br>
        </div>
        <div>
         I have another twist which came from the trust lawyer. Just becaus=
e you like something, don&#39;t hand it down your kids They will hate you. =
I have&#160; Stag and working on another. I cant see traits in neither of m=
y boys (16 and 11 years)&#160; &#160;working on cars. The Stag runs OK, but=
 I&#39;m on top&#160;of it.&#160;
        </div>
        <div>
         <br>
        </div>
        <div>
         Sujit
        </div>
       </div>
       <br>
       <div class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">
         On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 4:08 PM Harold Sawatsky &#60;=20
         <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&#=
62; wrote:=20
         <br>
        </div>
        <blockquote>
         <div>
          <div class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-gmail-m_-38831464681450=
62672WordSection1">
           <p class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Lots=
 of important questions. I have 3 kids that all wanted the small mouth 3. D=
aughter and 2 sons. I have done a frame up and restoring it back to factory=
 (still working on it but getting there). I have footed the bill for all pa=
rts and most will know it&#8217;s not cheap. Whoever gets it will drive it =
the way I did. Not a big deal at all. Live in Canada and drove it all over =
the western US as far as Mexico. A great experience. <u></u><u></u></span><=
/p>
           <p class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Choi=
ce of who will get it came down to a few factors. Oldest son wanted it beca=
use he is the oldest. Unfortunately not mechanically inclined but had no pr=
oblem getting his hands dirty. Daughter really wanted it because she&#8217;=
s my daughter. Have to say I made her take the head off her 1<sup>st</sup> =
car to get a valve job done and do oil changes but I was there to help. Gre=
at reason but if something happened it would sit. Youngest son wants it AND=
 he has helped in the tear down and the rebuild. He&#8217;s a white collar =
worker but mechanically inclined. Not afraid to work on it and get er done.=
 He&#8217;s offered to help paying for the body work. He&#8217;s the logica=
l choice. Was always a bit concerned what the others would say but they bot=
h understand completely. Was never a choice to sell it and split the money.=
 Family heirloom.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
           <p class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"><u><=
/u>&#160;<u></u></span></p>
           <p class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">My 2=
 cents<u></u><u></u></span></p>
           <p class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"><u><=
/u>&#160;<u></u></span></p>
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eft: none; border-top: 1pt solid #b5c4df; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;">
             <p class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><strong><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif;">From:</span><=
/strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,sans-serif;"> T=
riumphs [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </str=
ong>dave<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Sunday, December 16, 2018 10:37 AM<br><s=
trong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TR] The =
Gift of a Triumph<u></u><u></u></span></p>
            </div>
           </div>
           <p class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><u></u>&#160;=
<u></u></p>
           <p class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal">All good advi=
ce.&#160; &#160;But i think the most important question has not been asked.=
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            <p class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal">If she reall=
y really wants this car,&#160; what you are doing is quite wonderful.&#160;=
 &#160;However,&#160; if she is not prepared for sidescreens, a top that is=
 difficult to put up,&#160; no power anything<span style=3D"font-family: Ar=
ial,sans-serif;">, i question whether this is a gift or a burden.&#160; &#1=
60;I know that my daughter, who is 28, would not like this gift.&#160; &#16=
0;She had grown up around these cars, and has some understanding of what ow=
nership means.&#160; &#160;She is very much on board with inheriting my 350=
z convertible,&#160; manual shift.&#160;</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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=3D"font-family: Arial,sans-serif;">Just my 2 cents</span><u></u><u></u></p=
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             <p class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color: black;">-------- Original message --------<u></u><u></u></span><=
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             <p class=3D"ox-5be14f4ba1-ox-d483c0c531-MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"color: black;">From: &#34;TeriAnn J. Wakeman&#34; &#60;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&#62; <u></=
u><u></u></span></p>
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=3D"color: black;">Date: 12/16/18 8:24 AM (GMT-06:00) <u></u><u></u></span>=
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=3D"color: black;">Subject: Re: [TR] The Gift of a Triumph <u></u><u></u></=
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s getting silly. Just bring a car to original factory spec <br>with all the=
 parts in spec then have it professionally serviced per the <br>factory man=
ual. They were considered dependable drivers when new and <br>many that hav=
e problems today experience what happens from worn parts <br>and delayed ma=
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62; wrote:<br>&#62;&#62; In addition to Andrew&#226;&#8364;=E2=84=A2s&#160;=
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