Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 wiring

From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2018 22:30:48 -0600

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Hi Dave,
That chunk at the firewall is the crossroads of just about everything. The f=
ull set is all but the links to the headlights, if there are no special hook=
ups.   Personally, because you are going through the whole car, and there ma=
y be more issues yet unfound,  I would replace the whole thing.   Making up t=
he lighting pigtails is easy enough. =20
Bill B

Sent from my Motorola 8000X

On Dec 25, 2018, at 9:28 PM, dave <[email-masked]> wrote:

Just picked up a car and the engine wiring is a mess due to an engine compar=
tment fire some years ago.
=20
Is there just an engine harness available?  I see moss has =E2=80=9Cfull set=
=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cauxiliary=E2=80=9D which appears to have the lights e=
tc.  I=E2=80=99m not sure what all that means.  Does anyone know or do I nee=
d to call Moss?
=20
Or should I just build my own and link it to the existing wires?  That=E2=80=
=99s no big deal; I have built wiring harnesses for other cars and british w=
iring can supply me with the correct wires.
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Hi Dave,<div>That chunk at the firewall is t=
he crossroads of just about everything. The full set is all but the links to=
 the headlights, if there are no special hookups. &nbsp; Personally, because=
 you are going through the whole car, and there may be more issues yet unfou=
nd, &nbsp;I would replace the whole thing. &nbsp; Making up the lighting pig=
tails is easy enough. &nbsp;</div><div>Bill B<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSig=
nature" dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my Motorola 8000X</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On=
 Dec 25, 2018, at 9:28 PM, dave &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave=
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oNormal">Just picked up a car and the engine wiring is a mess due to an engi=
ne compartment fire some years ago.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is there just an engine harness ava=
ilable?&nbsp; I see moss has =E2=80=9Cfull set=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cauxilia=
ry=E2=80=9D which appears to have the lights etc.&nbsp; I=E2=80=99m not sure=
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</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>Or should I just build my own and link it to the existing wires?&nbsp; That=
=E2=80=99s no big deal; I have built wiring harnesses for other cars and bri=
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From: "Joel E. Justin" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 06:12:39 +0000

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There is no "engine" only harness. The interior (dash) and engine are all o=
ne. The only separate harnesses are the headlights and overdrive (if fitted=
 with one). It's your call, but on a car that old and especially one with a=
n engine fire, I'd just replace the entire harness. I think it would be eas=
ier and in the long run, more reliable. My 2 cents...

Joel...

From: dave <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:28 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR3 wiring

Just picked up a car and the engine wiring is a mess due to an engine compa=
rtment fire some years ago.

Is there just an engine harness available?  I see moss has "full set" and "=
auxiliary" which appears to have the lights etc.  I'm not sure what all tha=
t means.  Does anyone know or do I need to call Moss?

Or should I just build my own and link it to the existing wires?  That's no=
 big deal; I have built wiring harnesses for other cars and british wiring =
can supply me with the correct wires.

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt">There is no &#8220;=
engine&#8221; only harness. The interior (dash) and engine are all one. The=
 only separate harnesses are the headlights and overdrive (if fitted with o=
ne). It&#8217;s your call, but on a car that old and especially
 one with an engine fire, I&#8217;d just replace the entire harness. I thin=
k it would be easier and in the long run, more reliable. My 2 cents&#8230;<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt">Joel&#8230;<o:p></o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> dave &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] TR3 wiring<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Just picked up a car and the engine wiring is a mess=
 due to an engine compartment fire some years ago.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Is there just an engine harness available?&nbsp; I s=
ee moss has &#8220;full set&#8221; and &#8220;auxiliary&#8221; which appear=
s to have the lights etc.&nbsp; I&#8217;m not sure what all that means.&nbs=
p; Does anyone know or do I need to call Moss?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Or should I just build my own and link it to the exi=
sting wires?&nbsp; That&#8217;s no big deal; I have built wiring harnesses =
for other cars and british wiring can supply me with the correct wires.<o:p=
></o:p></p>
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From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 06:04:56 -0700

Dave, I would say it depends.

I agree with everyone in that it would be a good idea to replace the 
entire harness. The hardest part of scratch fabricating a harness is 
behind the instrument panel. It is worth buying the harness just for 
that section alone. British Wiring makes complete harnesses. I think 
Moss buys theirs from British wiring. If you want to end up with an 
alternator I think British Wiring can build a harness for you. If you 
decide to build your own, the bullet crimper tool that Moss sells is 
worth its weight in gold. Much faster than solder connections and no 
cold solder joints as you try to remove heat before too much of the wire 
insulation melts.

Good luck with the project

TeriAnn

http://www.tr3a.info/Lucaswirecodes.htm

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From: TERRY SMITH <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:12:30 -0500 (EST)

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Agree with others about the complete harness.  But am struck by the two hos=
es that lead from the heater core pipes to the radiator?  Not quite sure wh=
at that set up is.

Terry

New Hampshire

> On December 25, 2018 at 10:28 PM dave <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>     Just picked up a car and the engine wiring is a mess due to an engine=
 compartment fire some years ago.
>=20
>     =20
>=20
>     Is there just an engine harness available?  I see moss has =E2=80=9Cf=
ull set=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9Cauxiliary=E2=80=9D which appears to have the =
lights etc.  I=E2=80=99m not sure what all that means.  Does anyone know or=
 do I need to call Moss?
>=20
>     =20
>=20
>     Or should I just build my own and link it to the existing wires?  Tha=
t=E2=80=99s no big deal; I have built wiring harnesses for other cars and b=
ritish wiring can supply me with the correct wires.

=20

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ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Agree with others about the complete har=
ness.&#160; But am struck by the two hoses that lead from the heater core p=
ipes to the radiator?&#160; Not quite sure what that set up is.<br></p><p s=
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s=3D"ox-d39c91e900-MsoNormal">Is there just an engine harness available?&#1=
60; I see moss has &#8220;full set&#8221; and &#8220;auxiliary&#8221; which=
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ns.&#160; Does anyone know or do I need to call Moss?</p><p class=3D"ox-d39=
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 I just build my own and link it to the existing wires?&#160; That&#8217;s =
no big deal; I have built wiring harnesses for other cars and british wirin=
g can supply me with the correct wires.</p></div></blockquote><p style=3D"f=
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From: Geo Hahn <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 08:14:45 -0700

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On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 6:40 AM TeriAnn J. Wakeman <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> ...If you decide to build your own, the bullet crimper tool that Moss
> sells is
> worth its weight in gold...
>

A great tool -- but I think it can be had for less than half the price from
British Wiring:

https://mossmotors.com/wire-harness-bullet-crimp-tool

http://www.britishwiring.com/Ratchet-Style-Bullet-Crimping-Tool-p/tt85.htm

Geo

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed,=
 Dec 26, 2018 at 6:40 AM TeriAnn J. Wakeman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tjwakeman=
@gmail.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote"><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
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...If you decide to build your own, the bullet crimper tool that Moss sells=
 is <br>
worth its weight in gold...<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>A great too=
l -- but I think it can be had for less than half the price from British Wi=
ring:</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://mossmotors.com/wire-harne=
ss-bullet-crimp-tool">https://mossmotors.com/wire-harness-bullet-crimp-tool=
</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.britishwiring.com/Ratch=
et-Style-Bullet-Crimping-Tool-p/tt85.htm">http://www.britishwiring.com/Ratc=
het-Style-Bullet-Crimping-Tool-p/tt85.htm</a>=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><di=
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From: "Dave Connitt" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2018 10:27:12 -0500

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Hi Dave,

I installed a Advanced Autowire harness in my TR4A and am extremely happy
with the result. I placed the "power block" in the passenger footwell so
it's not apparent that I have a non-stock harness. It has provisions for
emergency flasher, a master relay so the only power going thru the ignition
switch is to the coil of a master relay, electric fan relay and much larger
gauge wires that have use the same color code as the stock Triumph.

My .02,

Dave Connitt

DavesTR4A.com

From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:28 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [TR] TR3 wiring

Just picked up a car and the engine wiring is a mess due to an engine
compartment fire some years ago.

Is there just an engine harness available?  I see moss has "full set" and
"auxiliary" which appears to have the lights etc.  I'm not sure what all
that means.  Does anyone know or do I need to call Moss?

Or should I just build my own and link it to the existing wires?  That's no
big deal; I have built wiring harnesses for other cars and british wiring
can supply me with the correct wires.

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Dave,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
installed a Advanced Autowire harness in my TR4A and am extremely happy =
with the result. I placed the &#8220;power block&#8221; in the passenger =
footwell so it&#8217;s not apparent that I have a non-stock harness. It =
has provisions for emergency flasher, a master relay so the only power =
going thru the ignition switch is to the coil of a master relay, =
electric fan relay and much larger gauge wires that have use the same =
color code as the stock Triumph.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>My =
.02,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e Connitt<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
esTR4A.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>dave<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:28 =
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wiring<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Just picked =
up a car and the engine wiring is a mess due to an engine compartment =
fire some years ago.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Is there =
just an engine harness available?&nbsp; I see moss has &#8220;full =
set&#8221; and &#8220;auxiliary&#8221; which appears to have the lights =
etc.&nbsp; I&#8217;m not sure what all that means.&nbsp; Does anyone =
know or do I need to call Moss?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Or should I =
just build my own and link it to the existing wires?&nbsp; That&#8217;s =
no big deal; I have built wiring harnesses for other cars and british =
wiring can supply me with the correct =
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Well, given the overall condition, I'd make sure it runs before I went 
any further. One or two wires is all you need for that, then given it 
runs, pull the motor and take care of the much needed cosmetics ahead of 
the harness.

DaveP

On 12/26/2018 8:27 AM, Dave Connitt wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I installed a Advanced Autowire harness in my TR4A and am extremely 
> happy with the result. I placed the “power block” in the passenger 
> footwell so it’s not apparent that I have a non-stock harness. It has 
> provisions for emergency flasher, a master relay so the only power 
> going thru the ignition switch is to the coil of a master relay, 
> electric fan relay and much larger gauge wires that have use the same 
> color code as the stock Triumph.
>
> My .02,
>
> Dave Connitt
>
> DavesTR4A.com
>
> *From:* Triumphs <[email-masked]> *On Behalf Of *dave
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2018 10:28 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* [TR] TR3 wiring
>
> Is there just an engine harness available? I see moss has “full set” 
> and “auxiliary” which appears to have the lights etc.  I’m not sure 
> what all that means.  Does anyone know or do I need to call Moss?
>
> Or should I just build my own and link it to the existing wires?  
> That’s no big deal; I have built wiring harnesses for other cars and 
> british wiring can supply me with the correct wires.
>
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/[email-masked]

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            extremely happy with the result. I placed the “power block”
            in the passenger footwell so it’s not apparent that I have a
            non-stock harness. It has provisions for emergency flasher,
            a master relay so the only power going thru the ignition
            switch is to the coil of a master relay, electric fan relay
            and much larger gauge wires that have use the same color
            code as the stock Triumph.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Is there just an engine harness available? 
          I see moss has “full set” and “auxiliary” which appears to
          have the lights etc.  I’m not sure what all that means.  Does
          anyone know or do I need to call Moss?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Or should I just build my own and link it
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Excellent suggestion.=20

Before you decide on the overall wiring job, hot wire it and see if it will=
 run. =20

I did this on my recent find, which may have not been run in at least 20 ye=
ars.

I oiled the cylinders, adjusted the valves (which were way off), cranked it=
 around and got oil pressure (the oil level was full and looked fresh), san=
ded the points and got spark, removed and clean the carbs (replacing the fl=
oat bowls and floats), set the jet heights with calipers, hung a remote fue=
l supply and installed good used spark plugs.  It then started, almost imme=
diately and sounded very good.=20

I ran a wire directly from the battery to the coil with a switch in-line an=
d jumped the starter solenoid with a screw driver.

Now, I'll completely tear the car down for restoration.=20

It too will need a new wire harness.  I'm interested in the Advanced Autowi=
re recommendation.  I wired my street/race TR3 with a modern aftermarket ha=
rness by Painless.  It's an 18 circuit universal harness and it has been wo=
rking perfectly.  I run full road equipment, minus wipers. =20

Of course there is nothing wrong with going factory stock and Lucus compone=
nts, I just decided otherwise.  I'm running extra/AutoMeter gauges, tempera=
ture senders, electric fan, mini alternator and starter, interior and trunk=
 lighting and other items that that Painless harness can fully accommodate =
out-of-the-box.

You can view my YouTube (Dave Hogye) restoration video to see some of the d=
etails.  The wiring shots are pretty crazy. =20

Dave H.

> On December 26, 2018 at 9:13 AM David P <[email-masked]> wrote=
:
>=20
>=20
>     Well, given the overall condition, I'd make sure it runs before I wen=
t any further. One or two wires is all you need for that, then given it run=
s, pull the motor and take care of the much needed cosmetics ahead of the h=
arness.
> >         I installed a Advanced Autowire harness in my TR4A and am extre=
mely happy with the result. I placed the =E2=80=9Cpower block=E2=80=9D in t=
he passenger footwell so it=E2=80=99s not apparent that I have a non-stock =
harness. It has provisions for emergency flasher, a master relay so the onl=
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ectric fan relay and much larger gauge wires that have use the same color c=
ode as the stock Triumph.
> >=20
> >         My .02,
> >=20
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> >=20
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> >=20
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> >=20
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> >         To: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
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> >=20
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> >=20
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> >=20
> >         =20
> >=20
> >         Or should I just build my own and link it to the existing wires=
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> >=20
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65b5307-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',s=
ans-serif; color: black;">I installed a Advanced Autowire harness in my TR4=
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8221; in the passenger footwell so it&#8217;s not apparent that I have a no=
n-stock harness. It has provisions for emergency flasher, a master relay so=
 the only power going thru the ignition switch is to the coil of a master r=
elay, electric fan relay and much larger gauge wires that have use the same=
 color code as the stock Triumph. </span></p><p class=3D"ox-90265b5307-MsoN=
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harness available?&#160; I see moss has &#8220;full set&#8221; and &#8220;a=
uxiliary&#8221; which appears to have the lights etc.&#160; I&#8217;m not s=
ure what all that means.&#160; Does anyone know or do I need to call Moss?<=
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?&#160; That&#8217;s no big deal; I have built wiring harnesses for other c=
ars and british wiring can supply me with the correct wires.</p></div><br><=
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