Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 11, Issue 311

From: JOSEPH MATO <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 19:31:23 +0000 (UTC)

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=C2=A0 1. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (Alan & Lyn Dunscombe)
=C2=A0 2. HS6 on a TR3 ([email-masked])
=C2=A0 3. Re: HS6 on a TR3 (Randall)
=C2=A0 4. Re: HS6 on a TR3 ([email-masked])
=C2=A0 5. Fiberglass fender (Andrew Uprichard)

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2018 11:33:32 +1300
From: Alan & Lyn Dunscombe <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor

thanks everyone for your prompt replies to my post,
especially Randall as always,
just the info I needed
much appreciated

Alan
TS 3612=C2=A0 down in New Zealand

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> Today's Topics:
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 1. Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019 (Rye Livingston)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 2. Re: Brake fluid for Triumph (Sujit Roy)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 3. Re: Brake fluid for Triumph ([email-masked])
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 4. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (Alan&=C2=A0 Lyn=
 Dunscombe)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 5. Re: Brake fluid for Triumph (DAVID MASSEY)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 6. Re: Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019 (DAVID MASSEY)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 7. Re: TR cylinder heads (Randall)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 8. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (TERRY SMITH)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 9. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (Randall)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 10. Re: Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019 (Dave Connitt)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 11. Re: TR cylinder heads (DAVE HOGYE)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 12. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (Andrew Upricha=
rd)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 13. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (Jerry Van Vlac=
k)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 14. Re: Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019 (Rye Livingsto=
n)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 15. Re: TR cylinder heads (John Macartney)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 16. Who owns buckeyetriumps.org (Sujit Roy)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 23:31:21 GMT
> From: Rye Livingston<[email-masked]>
> To: "Triumph list Team.net"<[email-masked]>
> Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019
> Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
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> Dear Fellow Triumph Owner,
>
> It?s time to make plans for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2019.
>
> My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car C=
lub in Northern California, which is celebrating our 60th anniversary.
>
> As you may remember a few years ago, I encouraged members of our club to =
drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthd=
ay, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and=
 went on to?make the cars we enjoy driving today.
>
> The first year about half a dozen members participated, and it?s been bui=
lding momentum every year since. Last year I received about 250 photos from=
 all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, Sou=
th Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Cze=
ch Republic, and of course all over the USA.? I?m hoping to double that num=
ber this year!
>
> The concept is straightforward. On February 10th, go for a drive in your =
Triumph.? Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the mar=
ket, to work, where ever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your =
local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog;=
 then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possib=
le, ideally in front a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway=
. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibern=
ation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway.
>
> Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to driveyourtriumphday@gmai=
l.com, along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of c=
ar, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then =
be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national ma=
gazine: Vintage Triumph Registry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website=
: https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com
>
> This year February 10th falls on a Sunday, so lets make this a big worldw=
ide event with club drives and lots of photos.? Remember, it?s a new photo =
taken on February 10th, 2019.
>
> Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, =
and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few St=
andard Clubs joined in too, which is all good.
>
> Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in a=
dvance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive The=
ir Triumphs on February 10th.
>
> Regards,
> Rye Livingston
> Activities Chairman
> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
> Celebrating our 60th Anniversary
> 1960 Triumph TR3A
> Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE
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> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 16:01:57 -0800
> From: Sujit Roy<[email-masked]>
> To: TERRY SMITH<[email-masked]>
> Cc: Triumphs<[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph
> Message-ID:
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> Thanks. I'll stick with the new black bottle for my current stag. But for
> Stag no. 2 which needs brakes seals all round I'll go for DOT 5
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 2:48 PM TERRY SMITH<[email-masked] wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>> Amen to that, Jeff.
>>
>> On November 29, 2018 at 8:10 AM Jeff Scarbrough<[email-masked]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:47 AM Randall<=C2=A0 [email-masked]>=C2=
=A0 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> So I'd have to say that "best practice" is probably to replace the seals
>> at
>> the same time.
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 I recognize a case of shipwright's disease when I see it, but sinc=
e I
>> have more than one car and am not greatly inconvenienced when one is
>> partially disassembled on stands in the garage; yet I am greatly
>> inconvenienced when the one I am driving is lying inert in the tall gras=
s
>> on the side of the road, I tend to go in and completely repair a system
>> when a part of it needs attention.=C2=A0 If I'm going to replace the whe=
el
>> cylinders, I'll replace/upgrade the hoses, and consider the calipers and
>> master as well.=C2=A0 If I'm changing one radiator hose, I'll go ahead a=
nd
>> replace all the radiator and heater hoses, and do a complete flush with =
the
>> radiator out.=C2=A0 Et cetera.=C2=A0 Saves a lot of sitting and waiting =
for the
>> flatbed.
>>
>>
>> Jeff Scarbrough
>> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
>> ** [email-masked] **
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 23:00:54 -0500
> From:<[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph
> Message-ID:<20181130040054.3Z2Z3.138821.root@cdptpa-web26>
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> I used Castrol LMA for years and seemed like every year or so, sometimes =
more, sometimes less, some master or slave cylinder would fail.=C2=A0 I did=
n't really keep track of the timeframe, but seemed like a very regular basi=
s, often a rear wheel cylinder.
>
> Sometime ago I switched to Dot 5, actually bought a car that had it.=C2=
=A0 After sometime (nearly 20 years of ownership) it dawned on me that I ha=
rdly ever had any problems with hydraulics anymore.=C2=A0 I was a firm beli=
ever in the benefits of Dot 5.
>
> Chapter 3-Last year my relatively new (7 years from the restoration, whic=
h is some time, but I was getting used to having so few problems it still s=
urprised me) brake master cylinder quit, followed by a leaky clutch master.=
=C2=A0 Inspection of the brake master shows corrossion at the bottom of the=
 bore, as if water had settled there.
>
> So Dot 5 seems to work well with hydraulics, but even though it does not =
absorb water, if water gets into the system, which apparently it can, it ca=
n do as much or more damage than it can in coventional fluid.
>
> My fault for not flushing the fluid more often, but a little unsure if a =
flush would get lingering fluid out of the bottom of the bore (vs. a conven=
tional flush which will displace fluid with x %age of water with new fluid =
with<=C2=A0 x %age of water, thereby lowering water in the system and makin=
g your fluid good again).
>
> YMMV, everybody seems to have different stories and experience with brake=
 fluid, but that has been mine.
>
> Greg Lemon
> TR250
>
> ---- [email-masked] wrote:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>> ..the only negative I've ever encountered with Dot 5 in our old cars is =
it does not lubricate the rubber as well as older fluids.
>> Synth and natural rubber also react differently ...as with everything wi=
th LBC's... ? ymmv
>>
>> ptegler
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TERRY SMITH<[email-masked]>
>> To: Randall<[email-masked]>; Sujit Roy<[email-masked]>
>> Cc: Triumphs<[email-masked]>
>> Sent: Thu, Nov 29, 2018 11:07 am
>> Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph
>>
>> When restoring my 3A in 2002, while the body was off the frame I replace=
d all the brake lines and hydraulic cylinders.? I learned about Dot 5 silic=
one based fluid from the List then and went with it. After 15 years of driv=
ing, the same brake system remains rock solid plus I never blistered paint =
with the occasional spill.? Doesn't silicone wear easier on rubber seals?
>>
>> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A? TS 58667
>> New Hampshire, where early snows have sent both bears and Triumphs off t=
o the Land of Nod
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>>> On November 28, 2018 at 7:58 PM Randall<[email-masked]>=C2=A0 wrot=
e:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>>>> Can I use DOT 5 in the Stag? Do I need to flush out the
>>>> current DOT 3/ 4?
>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>>> Both of my Stags have DOT 5 in them.? LE1473 was converted just by blee=
ding
>>> through at each corner until clean purple fluid appeared.? The other on=
e
>>> (dubbed Frankenstag because it appears to be parts from at least 3 diff=
erent
>>> cars) had a failed MC and stuck rear wheel cylinders when I got it, so =
those
>>> were repaired at the same time.
>>>
>>> However, LE1473 already had what seemed to be a minor master cylinder
>>> problem before the conversion (pedal would sometimes drop towards floor
>>> while sitting at a stop light), and it suddenly got a whole lot worse n=
ot
>>> long after the conversion (no hydraulic brakes at all).? (I also learne=
d
>>> that the back brakes on a Stag are more prone to fade than a TR3.)
>>> Post-mortem showed both MC piston seals torn, and approximately the
>>> consistency of Gummi Bears.
>>>
>>> So I'd have to say that "best practice" is probably to replace the seal=
s at
>>> the same time.
>>>
>>> Randall
>>>
>>> ** [email-masked] **
>>>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>> ** [email-masked] **
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 23:27:47 +1300
> From: Alan&=C2=A0 Lyn Dunscombe<[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor
> Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"; Format=3D"flowed"
>
> I am about to disassemble my oil pump on 4 cyl. TR3 motor,&=C2=A0 replace=
 the
> oil pump=C2=A0 cap (with gauze filter) on to the bottom of the pump body.
>
> When I fit the new oil pump=C2=A0 cap to the pump body:
> is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is, but just checkin=
g)
> do I use any sealer between the cap&=C2=A0 body?
>
> what torque for the bolts holding it on?
>
>
> Randall can you advise? anyone?
>
> thanks
>
> Alan Dunscombe=C2=A0 TS 3612
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:21:56 +0000 (UTC)
> From: DAVID MASSEY<[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph
> Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
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>=C2=A0 Moss and TRF sell a handy sticker indicating that the car is conver=
ted to DOT5.? Others have them, too, I suppose.? I recommend one of these j=
ust to keep everyone in the loop.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sujit Roy<[email-masked]>
> To: TERRY SMITH<[email-masked]>
> Cc: Triumphs<[email-masked]>
> Sent: Fri, Nov 30, 2018 12:03 am
> Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph
>
> Thanks. I'll stick with the new black bottle for my current stag. But for=
 Stag no. 2 which needs brakes seals all round I'll go for DOT 5
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 2:48 PM TERRY SMITH<[email-masked] wrote:
>
>=C2=A0 Amen to that, Jeff.
>
> On November 29, 2018 at 8:10 AM Jeff Scarbrough<[email-masked]>=C2=
=A0 wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:47 AM Randall<=C2=A0 [email-masked]>=C2=
=A0 wrote:
>
>
>
>=C2=A0 So I'd have to say that "best practice" is probably to replace the =
seals at
>=C2=A0 the same time.
>
> ?I recognize a case of shipwright's disease when I see it, but since I ha=
ve more than one car and am not greatly inconvenienced when one is partiall=
y disassembled on stands in the garage; yet I am greatly inconvenienced whe=
n the one I am driving is lying inert in the tall grass on the side of the =
road, I tend to go in and completely repair a system when a part of it need=
s attention.? If I'm going to replace the wheel cylinders, I'll replace/upg=
rade the hoses, and consider the calipers and master as well.? If I'm chang=
ing one radiator hose, I'll go ahead and replace all the radiator and heate=
r hoses, and do a complete flush with the radiator out.? Et cetera.? Saves =
a lot of sitting and waiting for the flatbed.
>
> Jeff ScarbroughCorrosion Acres, Ga.?
>
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> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:41:10 +0000 (UTC)
> From: DAVID MASSEY<[email-masked]>
> To: [email-masked], [email-masked]
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019
> Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>
>=C2=A0 Coincidentally, the St. Louis Triumph Owner's Association will be h=
olding our annual Polar Bear Run on that day.? Barring a weather fiasco we =
should be able to provide quite a number of suitable photos.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rye Livingston<[email-masked]>
> To: Triumph list Team.net<[email-masked]>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 29, 2018 11:10 pm
> Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019
>
> Dear Fellow Triumph Owner,
> It?s time to make plans for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2019.
> My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car C=
lub in Northern California, which is celebrating our 60th anniversary.
> As you may remember a few years ago, I encouraged members of our club to =
drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthd=
ay, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and=
 went on to?make the cars we enjoy driving today.
> The first year about half a dozen members participated, and it?s been bui=
lding momentum every year since. Last year I received about 250 photos from=
 all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, Sou=
th Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Cze=
ch Republic, and of course all over the USA.? I?m hoping to double that num=
ber this year!
> The concept is straightforward. On February 10th, go for a drive in your =
Triumph.? Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the mar=
ket, to work, where ever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your =
local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog;=
 then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possib=
le, ideally in front a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway=
. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibern=
ation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway.
> Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to driveyourtriumphday@gmai=
l.com, along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of c=
ar, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then =
be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national ma=
gazine: Vintage Triumph Registry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website=
: https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com
> This year February 10th falls on a Sunday, so lets make this a big worldw=
ide event with club drives and lots of photos.? Remember, it?s a new photo =
taken on February 10th, 2019.
> Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, =
and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few St=
andard Clubs joined in too, which is all good.
> Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in a=
dvance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive The=
ir Triumphs on February 10th.
> Regards,Rye LivingstonActivities ChairmanTriumph Travelers Sports Car Clu=
bCelebrating our 60th Anniversary1960 Triumph TR3AMobile: 530-FIND-RYE
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 06:04:15 -0800
> From: "Randall"<[email-masked]>
> To: "'Dave'"<[email-masked]>, "'Andrew Uprichard'"
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR cylinder heads
> Message-ID:<E6A376F4B9BD40F393B40A03900FA617@RYPC>
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>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>> Does anyone have anything to add about the information I
>> provided about a what looks like a 5th casting for 4 cylinder
>> TRs?=C2=A0 I hope the message came through with the attached photos.
>> Dave H.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
> Perhaps I am confused.=C2=A0 The information you supplied seems to match =
the
> information TeriAnn has listed for (some?) TR3B through CT21470E TR4.=C2=
=A0 P/N
> 511084 is listed in the SPC as being a cylinder head (less valves and
> springs) for TR4 through CT21470E.=C2=A0 It takes the same exhaust valves=
 as
> earlier TRs, with the 3/8" stem rather than the 5/16" stem used later on.
> The SPC I have is not explicit about the change from triple exhaust sprin=
gs
> to double; but it's my belief that it happened around the same time as th=
e
> change in exhaust stem diameter.
>
> The book says the later double springs can be fitted, but is somewhat
> confusing on the topic of "collars", since the same term is used both for
> the spacer that goes under the triple springs, and for what I call the
> "retainer" that goes above the spring.=C2=A0 I believe the sets with doub=
le
> exhaust springs take a different retainer (142137 vs 105083) for both int=
ake
> and exhaust; and should be used without the spacer (108242).=C2=A0 Both i=
nner and
> outer springs have different part numbers between the two sets, and I
> believe the dimensions are different.
>
> It also mentions the "conversion" guides to use the 5/16" exhaust valves =
in
> the earlier heads.=C2=A0 The earlier heads actually have a larger hole fo=
r the
> exhaust guide, so these conversion guides are thicker to fill the larger
> hole.
>
> -- Randall
> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:41:56 -0500 (EST)
> From: TERRY SMITH<[email-masked]>
> To: Alan&=C2=A0 Lyn Dunscombe<[email-masked]>,
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor
> Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>
> Hi, Alan.=C2=A0 I didn't think so but couldn't remember for sure, so just=
 did a quick check on the Moss Motors engine parts breakout.=C2=A0 The pump=
 itself has a gasket, but the joint for the cap and the pump body does not.
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>> On November 30, 2018 at 5:27 AM Alan&=C2=A0 Lyn Dunscombe<dunscomb@chch.=
planet.org.nz>=C2=A0 wrote:
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I am about to disassemble my oil pump on 4 cyl. TR3 =
motor,&=C2=A0 replace the oil pump=C2=A0 cap (with gauze filter) on to the =
bottom of the pump body.
>>
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 When I fit the new oil pump=C2=A0 cap to the pump bo=
dy:
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't think there=
 is, but just checking)
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 do I use any sealer between the cap&=C2=A0 body?
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 what torque for the bolts holding it on?
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Randall can you advise? anyone?
>>
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 thanks
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Alan Dunscombe=C2=A0 TS 3612
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>> ** [email-masked] **
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:03:08 -0800
> From: "Randall"<[email-masked]>
> To: "'Alan&=C2=A0 Lyn Dunscombe'"<[email-masked]>,
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor
> Message-ID:<C335DA43E068468DAEE1923DB27C7A8F@RYPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>> When I fit the new oil pump=C2=A0 cap to the pump body:
>> is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is, but
>> just checking) do I use any sealer between the cap&=C2=A0 body?
>> what torque for the bolts holding it on?
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
> No gasket, I don't use any sealer.=C2=A0 Do check that the surfaces are p=
erfectly
> flat, though.=C2=A0 Sometimes even new components aren't.
>
> I think 12 ftlbs is a reasonable torque value; but I don't have a factory
> spec.
>
> Also double-check how the rotor is secured to the shaft.=C2=A0 There shou=
ld be a
> pin visible; but some aftermarket pumps have the rotor pressed onto a
> knurled shaft.=C2=A0 The knurls have been known to fail in service and cr=
eate a
> mess (in addition to the sudden loss of oil pressure).
>
> -- Randall
> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:37:13 -0500
> From: "Dave Connitt"<[email-masked]>
> To: "'Rye Livingston'"<[email-masked]>, "'Triumph list Team.net'"
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019
> Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>
> What a great idea!
>
> Dave Connitt
>
> ?67 TR4A-IRS
>
>
>
> From: Triumphs<[email-masked]>=C2=A0 On Behalf Of Rye Li=
vingston
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:31 PM
> To: Triumph list Team.net<[email-masked]>
> Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019
>
>
>
> Dear Fellow Triumph Owner,
>
>
>
>
>
> It?s time to make plans for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2019.
>
>
>
>
>
> My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car C=
lub in Northern California, which is celebrating our 60th anniversary.
>
>
>
>
>
> As you may remember a few years ago, I encouraged members of our club to =
drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthd=
ay, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and=
 went on to make the cars we enjoy driving today.
>
>
>
>
>
> The first year about half a dozen members participated, and it?s been bui=
lding momentum every year since. Last year I received about 250 photos from=
 all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, Sou=
th Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Cze=
ch Republic, and of course all over the USA.=C2=A0 I?m hoping to double tha=
t number this year!
>
>
>
>
>
> The concept is straightforward. On February 10th, go for a drive in your =
Triumph.=C2=A0 Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to th=
e market, to work, where ever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from =
your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your=
 dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if p=
ossible, ideally in front a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your dri=
veway. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in h=
ibernation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway.
>
>
>
>
>
> Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to driveyourtriumphday@gmai=
nformation: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place photo was taken =
(city, state, country). The photos will then be published not only in our c=
lub newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintage Triumph Regist=
ry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: https://driveyourtriumphday.=
shutterfly.com<https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
> This year February 10th falls on a Sunday, so lets make this a big worldw=
ide event with club drives and lots of photos.=C2=A0 Remember, it?s a new p=
hoto taken on February 10th, 2019.
>
>
>
>
>
> Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, =
and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few St=
andard Clubs joined in too, which is all good.
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in a=
dvance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive The=
ir Triumphs on February 10th.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rye Livingston
>
> Activities Chairman
>
> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
>
> Celebrating our 60th Anniversary
>
> 1960 Triumph TR3A
>
> Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:54:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: DAVE HOGYE<[email-masked]>
> To: Randall<[email-masked]>, Andrew Uprichard
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR cylinder heads
> Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8
>
> Ah yes, I understand.=C2=A0 The head was the same "casting" as the TR4A h=
ead, but have machining for the exhaust valve stem and intake port that mat=
ch the earlier high port heads.
> Thanks, Dave H.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>> On November 30, 2018 at 6:04 AM Randall<[email-masked]>=C2=A0 wrote=
:
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>>> Does anyone have anything to add about the information I
>>> provided about a what looks like a 5th casting for 4 cylinder
>>> TRs?=C2=A0 I hope the message came through with the attached photos.
>>> Dave H.
>>>
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>> Perhaps I am confused.=C2=A0 The information you supplied seems to match=
 the
>> information TeriAnn has listed for (some?) TR3B through CT21470E TR4.=C2=
=A0 P/N
>> 511084 is listed in the SPC as being a cylinder head (less valves and
>> springs) for TR4 through CT21470E.=C2=A0 It takes the same exhaust valve=
s as
>> earlier TRs, with the 3/8" stem rather than the 5/16" stem used later on=
.
>> The SPC I have is not explicit about the change from triple exhaust spri=
ngs
>> to double; but it's my belief that it happened around the same time as t=
he
>> change in exhaust stem diameter.
>>
>> The book says the later double springs can be fitted, but is somewhat
>> confusing on the topic of "collars", since the same term is used both fo=
r
>> the spacer that goes under the triple springs, and for what I call the
>> "retainer" that goes above the spring.=C2=A0 I believe the sets with dou=
ble
>> exhaust springs take a different retainer (142137 vs 105083) for both in=
take
>> and exhaust; and should be used without the spacer (108242).=C2=A0 Both =
inner and
>> outer springs have different part numbers between the two sets, and I
>> believe the dimensions are different.
>>
>> It also mentions the "conversion" guides to use the 5/16" exhaust valves=
 in
>> the earlier heads.=C2=A0 The earlier heads actually have a larger hole f=
or the
>> exhaust guide, so these conversion guides are thicker to fill the larger
>> hole.
>>
>> -- Randall
>> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
>> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
>> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild
>>
>>
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 11:09:23 -0500
> From: "Andrew Uprichard"<[email-masked]>
> To: "'Randall'"<[email-masked]>, "'Alan&=C2=A0 Lyn Dunscombe'"
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>,<[email-masked]=
>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor
> Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> One additional point.=C2=A0 I once rebuilt an engine, but couldn't get go=
od oil
> pressure.=C2=A0 As I had re-used the original oil pump, I pulled the sump=
 to see
> if the problem was a faulty oil pump.=C2=A0 It was then I realized I had =
not used
> the gasket between the pump and the block.=C2=A0 Significant oil must hav=
en
> leaking there as a gasket solved the problem.
>
> Andrew Uprichard
> Jackson, Michigan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Rand=
all
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:03 AM
> To: 'Alan&=C2=A0 Lyn Dunscombe'; [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>> When I fit the new oil pump=C2=A0 cap to the pump body:
>> is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is, but
>> just checking) do I use any sealer between the cap&=C2=A0 body?
>> what torque for the bolts holding it on?
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
> No gasket, I don't use any sealer.=C2=A0 Do check that the surfaces are p=
erfectly
> flat, though.=C2=A0 Sometimes even new components aren't.
>
> I think 12 ftlbs is a reasonable torque value; but I don't have a factory
> spec.
>
> Also double-check how the rotor is secured to the shaft.=C2=A0 There shou=
ld be a
> pin visible; but some aftermarket pumps have the rotor pressed onto a
> knurled shaft.=C2=A0 The knurls have been known to fail in service and cr=
eate a
> mess (in addition to the sudden loss of oil pressure).
>
> -- Randall
> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild
>
> ** [email-masked] **
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/triumphs  http://www.team.net/arch=
ive
>
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 11:18:05 -0500
> From: "Jerry Van Vlack"<[email-masked]>
> To: "Alan&=C2=A0 Lyn Dunscombe"<[email-masked]>,
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor
> Message-ID:<E840F52B61154E66B45CF146FC349DA2@VlackTK121647>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"
>
> Alan, I?m not sure I understand what you are doing to your oil pump, howe=
ver I suggest you remove all of the scores you?ll find on that cap. A flat =
surface is best ( I use a piece of glass ) and some emery cloth with lots o=
f oil. Work the scored surface back and forth with even pressure adding oil=
 as needed until you?ve worked all of the scores out of the surface. You ca=
n start with coarse emery and finer once the deep scores are removed. Check=
 all the clearances and if replacing the internals be certain the gear is p=
inned to the shaft as there have been failures of replacement pumps. Frankl=
y try to reuse your original pump internals. It doesn't seem possible that =
oil pressure can be lost via those scores in the bottom plate but from expe=
rience loss does occur there.
>
> I?m not familiar with a replacement gauze ?filter? screen but think it ma=
y not be a good idea, the screen does a fine job and the oil filter does th=
e rest.
>
> JVV
>
> From: Alan&=C2=A0 Lyn Dunscombe
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 5:27 AM
> To: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor
>
> I am about to disassemble my oil pump on 4 cyl. TR3 motor,&=C2=A0 replace=
 the oil pump=C2=A0 cap (with gauze filter) on to the bottom of the pump bo=
dy.
>
>
>
> When I fit the new oil pump=C2=A0 cap to the pump body:
> is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is, but just checkin=
g)
> do I use any sealer between the cap&=C2=A0 body?
>
> what torque for the bolts holding it on?
>
>
>
> Randall can you advise? anyone?
>
>
>
>
> thanks
>
> Alan Dunscombe=C2=A0 TS 3612
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 16:21:42 GMT
> From: Rye Livingston<[email-masked]>
> To: DAVID MASSEY<[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked], [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019
> Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed"
>
> Excellent!
>
> Rye
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2018, at 05:41 AM, DAVID MASSEY<[email-masked]>=C2=A0 wrot=
e:
>
> Coincidentally, the St. Louis Triumph Owner's Association will be holding=
 our annual Polar Bear Run on that day.? Barring a weather fiasco we should=
 be able to provide quite a number of suitable photos.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rye Livingston<[email-masked]>
> To: Triumph list Team.net<[email-masked]>
> Sent: Thu, Nov 29, 2018 11:10 pm
> Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019
>
> Dear Fellow Triumph Owner,
>
> It?s time to make plans for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2019.
>
> My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car C=
lub in Northern California, which is celebrating our 60th anniversary.
>
> As you may remember a few years ago, I encouraged members of our club to =
drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthd=
ay, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and=
 went on to?make the cars we enjoy driving today.
>
> The first year about half a dozen members participated, and it?s been bui=
lding momentum every year since. Last year I received about 250 photos from=
 all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, Sou=
th Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Cze=
ch Republic, and of course all over the USA.? I?m hoping to double that num=
ber this year!
>
> The concept is straightforward. On February 10th, go for a drive in your =
Triumph.? Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the mar=
ket, to work, where ever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your =
local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog;=
 then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possib=
le, ideally in front a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway=
. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibern=
ation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway.
>
> Next step is to email a high-resolution photo to driveyourtriumphday@gmai=
l.com, along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of c=
ar, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then =
be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national ma=
gazine: Vintage Triumph Registry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website=
: https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com
>
> This year February 10th falls on a Sunday, so lets make this a big worldw=
ide event with club drives and lots of photos.? Remember, it?s a new photo =
taken on February 10th, 2019.
>
> Please feel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, =
and your club Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few St=
andard Clubs joined in too, which is all good.
>
> Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank you in a=
dvance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Drive The=
ir Triumphs on February 10th.
>
> Regards,
> Rye Livingston
> Activities Chairman
> Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club
> Celebrating our 60th Anniversary
> 1960 Triumph TR3A
> Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 17:15:52 -0000
> From: "John Macartney"<[email-masked]>
> To: "'Randall'"<[email-masked]>, "'Dave'"<[email-masked]>,
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "'Andrew Uprichard'"<[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR cylinder heads
> Message-ID:<[email-masked]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 charset=3D"us-ascii"
>
> I wasn't able to pick up on this thread owing to other pressures. I'm
> assuming the thread refers to an earlier post where someone queried the
> existence of a number on a wet liner four pot? If I'm looking at the same
> hymn sheet, these raised numbers cast in the head are usually found in th=
e
> middle-ish of the head adjacent to the valves and=C2=A0 are not an altern=
ative
> part number, nor will you find them in any parts catalogue. You can see t=
he
> raised number on a little plinth which is visible underneath the rocker
> arms. I know from more recent experiences with the six cylinder engine th=
at
> this same 'number' is about adjacent to valve stem three and/or four. The
> same may apply to the four pot. That number is not a part number per se b=
ut
> an engineering reference number for use in production - and no other
> purpose! If I had been a Wise Virgin some fifty or more years ago and kep=
t
> my engineering change reference guides, I'd be able to tell you=C2=A0 cha=
pter and
> verse on any head produced by the company for any market from 1946 to 197=
3.
> However, long, long before the days of the internet, I looked at those
> numbers in their manual and wondered "who on earth would ever want these?=
"
> and they went in the trash. Sorry, everyone!
> For those of you who have the 2.5 litre six cylinder, bear these two numb=
ers
> in mind - 219015 and/or 219016.
> These identify the very last head ever re-worked for that engine and it i=
s
> by far the best head in terms of porting, port diameter, gas flow and swi=
rl
> within the combustion chamber. AFAIK, it was never fitted to North Americ=
an
> cars as they had lower CR's from 1971 onwards but if anyone is ever in th=
e
> UK or Europe and at a Triumph parts fair and you see one available that's
> undamaged, GRAB it! Not many enthusiasts realise the true worth of this h=
ead
> and I fitted one to my 2.5 injection saloon and the performance improveme=
nt
> was amazing.
>
> Jonmac
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Triumphs<[email-masked]>=C2=A0 On Behalf Of Randal=
l
> Sent: 30 November 2018 14:04
> To: 'Dave'<[email-masked]>; 'Andrew Uprichard'
> <[email-masked]>
> Cc: [email-masked]
> Subject: Re: [TR] TR cylinder heads
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
>> Does anyone have anything to add about the information I provided
>> about a what looks like a 5th casting for 4 cylinder TRs?=C2=A0 I hope t=
he
>> message came through with the attached photos.
>> Dave H.
>>
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20
> Perhaps I am confused.=C2=A0 The information you supplied seems to match =
the
> information TeriAnn has listed for (some?) TR3B through CT21470E TR4.=C2=
=A0 P/N
> 511084 is listed in the SPC as being a cylinder head (less valves and
> springs) for TR4 through CT21470E.=C2=A0 It takes the same exhaust valves=
 as
> earlier TRs, with the 3/8" stem rather than the 5/16" stem used later on.
> The SPC I have is not explicit about the change from triple exhaust sprin=
gs
> to double; but it's my belief that it happened around the same time as th=
e
> change in exhaust stem diameter.
>
> The book says the later double springs can be fitted, but is somewhat
> confusing on the topic of "collars", since the same term is used both for
> the spacer that goes under the triple springs, and for what I call the
> "retainer" that goes above the spring.=C2=A0 I believe the sets with doub=
le
> exhaust springs take a different retainer (142137 vs 105083) for both int=
ake
> and exhaust; and should be used without the spacer (108242).=C2=A0 Both i=
nner and
> outer springs have different part numbers between the two sets, and I
> believe the dimensions are different.
>
> It also mentions the "conversion" guides to use the 5/16" exhaust valves =
in
> the earlier heads.=C2=A0 The earlier heads actually have a larger hole fo=
r the
> exhaust guide, so these conversion guides are thicker to fill the larger
> hole.
>
> -- Randall
> 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
> 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
> 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild
>
>
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:38:41 -0800
> From: Sujit Roy<[email-masked]>
> To: Triumphs<[email-masked]>
> Subject: [TR] Who owns buckeyetriumps.org
> Message-ID:
> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CANLCLaGnR5GL=3Dxw+PGf5GGZss+h5csKTmotc8qWrw9YPyJyz7A=
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> I always go this this great website for Triumph help. I wonder who owns a=
nd
> maintains it?
> I'm assuming the owners renew the domain name every year.
>
> I'd hate for it to be lost.
>
> Sujit
>
>
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=20

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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 17:35:14 -0600
From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
To: Dave Ranteer <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] HS6 on a TR3

Installing a pair of HS6 SU carburetors from a TR4 on a stock TR3A motor.=
=C2=A0 With regards to the vacuum-in ports on the carbs that would normally=
 connect to the PCV line from the rocker cover. Does it matter whether i pl=
ug the two ports or should I run a line between them?=C2=A0 Or is it just s=
ixes?

Thanks,
Bill B
TS30800L

Sent from my Handspring Treo

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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 20:10:00 -0800
From: "Randall" <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]'" <[email-masked]>, "'Dave Ranteer'"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] HS6 on a TR3

> Installing a pair of HS6 SU carburetors from a TR4 on a stock=20
> TR3A motor.=C2=A0 With regards to the vacuum-in ports on the carbs=20
> that would normally connect to the PCV line from the rocker=20
> cover. Does it matter whether i plug the two ports or should=20
> I run a line between them?=C2=A0 Or is it just sixes?

I believe that was only on TR6.=C2=A0 TR4A and TR250 used a real PCV valve
plumbed to the intake manifold.

But if you had them, you could just cap them off.

-- Randall=20
56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild=20

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 23:07:26 -0600
From: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
To: Randall <[email-masked]>
Cc: Dave Ranteer <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [TR] HS6 on a TR3

Thanks Randall, I?m sure you are correct as the pedigree here is a bit susp=
ect.=C2=A0 I?ll cap the ports off and head on to bigger things.=C2=A0=20
Bill B

Sent from my Handspring Treo

> On Dec 1, 2018, at 10:10 PM, Randall <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20

> Installing a pair of HS6 SU carburetors from a TR4 on a stock=20
> TR3A motor.=C2=A0 With regards to the vacuum-in ports on the carbs=20
> that would normally connect to the PCV line from the rocker=20
> cover. Does it matter whether i plug the two ports or should=20
> I run a line between them?=C2=A0 Or is it just sixes?

I believe that was only on TR6.=C2=A0 TR4A and TR250 used a real PCV valve
plumbed to the intake manifold.

But if you had them, you could just cap them off.

-- Randall=20
56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver
71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild
71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild=20

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2018 07:58:52 -0500
From: "Andrew Uprichard" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] Fiberglass fender

Hey, listers:=C2=A0 I recently came across, of all things, a fiberglass DS =
rear
fender.=C2=A0 It is unused, and, if it stays with me, it will remain unused=
!=C2=A0 So
if anyone is interested, contact me offline. Thanks !

=20

Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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llow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"></div=
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v><div dir=3D"ltr">thanks everyone for your prompt replies to my post,<br c=
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ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Alan<br clear=3D"none"></div=
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ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  5. Re: Brake fluid fo=
r Triumph (DAVID MASSEY)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp=
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ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  7. Re: TR cylinder h=
eads (Randall)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  =
8. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (TERRY SMITH)<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp;  9. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cy=
l. TR motor (Randall)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &=
nbsp; 10. Re: Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019 (Dave Connitt)<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; 11. Re: TR cylinder head=
s (DAVE HOGYE)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; 1=
2. Re: Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor (Andrew Uprichard)<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; 13. Re: Oil pump re-assembly=
 4 cyl. TR motor (Jerry Van Vlack)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; 14. Re: Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019 (Rye Livin=
gston)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; 15. Re: T=
R cylinder heads (John Macartney)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; 16. Who owns buckeyetriumps.org (Sujit Roy)<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; -------------------------=
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r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2018 23:31:2=
1 GMT<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Rye Livingston&lt=
;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
To: "Triumph list Team.net"&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:triumphs@au=
tox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: [TR] Drive You=
r Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
Message-ID:&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:80da0af0-5dfb-4563-aa9f-849=
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[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed"<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt; Dear Fellow Triumph Owner,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; It?s time to make plans f=
or Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2019.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; My name is R=
ye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Norther=
n California, which is celebrating our 60th anniversary.<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; A=
s you may remember a few years ago, I encouraged members of our club to dri=
ve their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday,=
 the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and we=
nt on to?make the cars we enjoy driving today.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The first y=
ear about half a dozen members participated, and it?s been building momentu=
m every year since. Last year I received about 250 photos from all over the=
 world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Ur=
uguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech Republic, =
and of course all over the USA.? I?m hoping to double that number this year=
!<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The concept is straightforward. On February 10th, go for=
 a drive in your Triumph.? Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to =
lunch, to the market, to work, where ever. Go for a drive alone or in a big=
 group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandc=
hild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and th=
e owner if possible, ideally in front a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or=
 in your driveway. If it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your=
 car is in hibernation, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of =
it anyway.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Next step is to email a high-resolution photo t=
o <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>, along with som=
e basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place photo w=
as taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be published not only=
 in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintage Trium=
ph Registry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: <a shape=3D"rect" h=
ref=3D"https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com</a><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 This year February 10th falls on a Sunday, so lets make this a big worldwi=
de event with club drives and lots of photos.? Remember, it?s a new photo t=
aken on February 10th, 2019.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Please feel free to send this=
 on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Activities Chairm=
an and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joined in too, whi=
ch is all good.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Be sure to contact me with any questions y=
ou may have, and thank you in advance for getting the message out to your m=
embers and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on February 10th.<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; Regards,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Rye Livingston<br=
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"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club<br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Celebrating our 60th Anniversary<br=
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8 16:01:57 -0800<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Sujit =
Roy&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></di=
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t</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Cc: Triumphs&lt;<a =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-ID:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CANLCLaF3Zc7P+<a shape=3D"rect" href=
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ollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text=
/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks. I'll stick with the new =
black bottle for my current stag. But for<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; Stag no. 2 which needs brakes seals all round I'll go for DOT=
 5<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 2:48 PM TERRY SMITH&lt;<a shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; <br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Amen to that, Jeff.<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;&gt; On November 29, 2018 at 8:10 AM Jeff Scarbrough&lt;<a shape=3D=
"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
;&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; On Thu, Nov =
29, 2018 at 12:47 AM Randall&lt;&nbsp; <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:TR3=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;&nbsp; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; So I'd=
 have to say that "best practice" is probably to replace the seals<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; at<br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; the same time.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp;  I recognize a case of shipwright'=
s disease when I see it, but since I<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt;&gt; have more than one car and am not greatly inconvenienced when o=
ne is<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; partially disassemb=
led on stands in the garage; yet I am greatly<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; inconvenienced when the one I am driving is lying iner=
t in the tall grass<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; on th=
e side of the road, I tend to go in and completely repair a system<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; when a part of it needs attention=
.&nbsp; If I'm going to replace the wheel<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; cylinders, I'll replace/upgrade the hoses, and consider t=
he calipers and<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; master as=
 well.&nbsp; If I'm changing one radiator hose, I'll go ahead and<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; replace all the radiator and heat=
er hoses, and do a complete flush with the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
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ng and waiting for the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; fl=
atbed.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=
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<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From:&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">glemon@=
neb.rr.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Cc: <a sha=
pe=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-ID:&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:201=
81130040054.3Z2Z3.138821.root@cdptpa-web26" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla=
nk">20181130040054.3Z2Z3.138821.root@cdptpa-web26</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; I used Castrol LMA for years and seemed like every year or so=
, sometimes more, sometimes less, some master or slave cylinder would fail.=
&nbsp; I didn't really keep track of the timeframe, but seemed like a very =
regular basis, often a rear wheel cylinder.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sometime ago I=
 switched to Dot 5, actually bought a car that had it.&nbsp; After sometime=
 (nearly 20 years of ownership) it dawned on me that I hardly ever had any =
problems with hydraulics anymore.&nbsp; I was a firm believer in the benefi=
ts of Dot 5.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Chapter 3-Last year my relatively new (7 year=
s from the restoration, which is some time, but I was getting used to havin=
g so few problems it still surprised me) brake master cylinder quit, follow=
ed by a leaky clutch master.&nbsp; Inspection of the brake master shows cor=
rossion at the bottom of the bore, as if water had settled there.<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; So Dot 5 seems to work well with hydraulics, but even though it do=
es not absorb water, if water gets into the system, which apparently it can=
, it can do as much or more damage than it can in coventional fluid.<br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; My fault for not flushing the fluid more often, but a little uns=
ure if a flush would get lingering fluid out of the bottom of the bore (vs.=
 a conventional flush which will displace fluid with x %age of water with n=
ew fluid with&lt;&nbsp; x %age of water, thereby lowering water in the syst=
em and making your fluid good again).<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; YMMV, everybody seem=
s to have different stories and experience with brake fluid, but that has b=
een mine.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Greg Lemon<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; TR250<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ---- <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:ptegl=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> =
wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; <br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; ..the only negative I've ever enc=
ountered with Dot 5 in our old cars is it does not lubricate the rubber as =
well as older fluids.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Syn=
th and natural rubber also react differently ...as with everything with LBC=
's... ? ymmv<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; ptegler<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; From: TERRY SMITH&lt;<a sha=
pe=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt;&gt; To: Randall&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; Sujit =
Roy&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Cc: Triumphs&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Sent: =
Thu, Nov 29, 2018 11:07 am<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt=
; Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; When r=
estoring my 3A in 2002, while the body was off the frame I replaced all the=
 brake lines and hydraulic cylinders.? I learned about Dot 5 silicone based=
 fluid from the List then and went with it. After 15 years of driving, the =
same brake system remains rock solid plus I never blistered paint with the =
occasional spill.? Doesn't silicone wear easier on rubber seals?<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Terry Smith, '59 TR3A? TS 58667<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; New Hampshire, where early snows have sent both be=
ars and Triumphs off to the Land of Nod<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; On November 28, 2018 at 7:58 PM R=
andall&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&nbsp; wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&=
gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Can I =
use DOT 5 in the Stag? Do I need to flush out the<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; current DOT 3/ 4?<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; Both of my Stags have DOT 5=
 in them.? LE1473 was converted just by bleeding<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; through at each corner until clean purple fluid=
 appeared.? The other one<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;=
&gt; (dubbed Frankenstag because it appears to be parts from at least 3 dif=
ferent<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; cars) had a fa=
iled MC and stuck rear wheel cylinders when I got it, so those<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; were repaired at the same time.<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; However, LE1473 already had what seemed to =
be a minor master cylinder<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt=
;&gt; problem before the conversion (pedal would sometimes drop towards flo=
or<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; while sitting at a=
 stop light), and it suddenly got a whole lot worse not<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; long after the conversion (no hydraulic =
brakes at all).? (I also learned<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt;&gt; that the back brakes on a Stag are more prone to fade than a TR=
3.)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; Post-mortem showe=
d both MC piston seals torn, and approximately the<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; consistency of Gummi Bears.<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt;&gt;&gt; So I'd have to say that "best practice" is probably to repl=
ace the seals at<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; the =
same time.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;<br clear=
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<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message: 4<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 23:27:47 +1300<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Alan&amp;&nbsp; Lyn Dunscombe&l=
t;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:triumph=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
t</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Oil p=
ump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; Message-ID:&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
anet.org.nz" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
t.org.nz</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type=
: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"; Format=3D"flowed"<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I =
am about to disassemble my oil pump on 4 cyl. TR3 motor,&amp;&nbsp; replace=
 the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; oil pump&nbsp; cap (with=
 gauze filter) on to the bottom of the pump body.<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; When I f=
it the new oil pump&nbsp; cap to the pump body:<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt; is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is,=
 but just checking)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; do I use =
any sealer between the cap&amp;&nbsp; body?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; what torque fo=
r the bolts holding it on?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; Randall can you advise? anyone?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; thanks<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; Alan Dunscombe&nbsp; TS 3612<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
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ate: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 13:21:56 +0000 (UTC)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; From: DAVID MASSEY&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dave1m=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: <a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triump=
[email-masked]</a>, <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Cc: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:triumphs=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Brake =
fluid for Triumph<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-ID:=
&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
hoo.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">765522458.254028.1543584116040@=
mail.yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Conten=
t-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp;  Moss and TRF =
sell a handy sticker indicating that the car is converted to DOT5.? Others =
have them, too, I suppose.? I recommend one of these just to keep everyone =
in the loop.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Dave<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; -----O=
riginal Message-----<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Su=
jit Roy&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"n=
ofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: TERRY SMITH&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">terryrs@comcas=
t.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Cc: Triumphs&lt=
;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent: Fri, Nov 30, 2018 12:03 am<br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Brake fluid for Triumph<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; Thanks. I'll stick with the new black bottle for my current stag.=
 But for Stag no. 2 which needs brakes seals all round I'll go for DOT 5<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 2:48 PM T=
ERRY SMITH&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a> wrote:<br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
&nbsp;  Amen to that, Jeff.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On November 29, 2018 at 8:10 A=
M Jeff Scarbrough&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&nbsp; wrote:=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 12:47 AM Randall=
&lt;&nbsp; <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nof=
ollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&nbsp; wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp;  So I'd have to say that "best practice" is=
 probably to replace the seals at<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;&nbsp;  the same time.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ?I recognize a case of shipwrig=
ht's disease when I see it, but since I have more than one car and am not g=
reatly inconvenienced when one is partially disassembled on stands in the g=
arage; yet I am greatly inconvenienced when the one I am driving is lying i=
nert in the tall grass on the side of the road, I tend to go in and complet=
ely repair a system when a part of it needs attention.? If I'm going to rep=
lace the wheel cylinders, I'll replace/upgrade the hoses, and consider the =
calipers and master as well.? If I'm changing one radiator hose, I'll go ah=
ead and replace all the radiator and heater hoses, and do a complete flush =
with the radiator out.? Et cetera.? Saves a lot of sitting and waiting for =
the flatbed.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Jeff ScarbroughCorrosion Acres, Ga.?<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></=
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8 13:41:10 +0000 (UTC)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: =
DAVID MASSEY&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D=
"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>, <a shape=3D"rect" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">t=
[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Cc=
: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow"=
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dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-ID:&lt;<a shape=3D"rect=
" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; char=
set=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp;  Coincidentally, the St. Louis Triumph=
 Owner's Association will be holding our annual Polar Bear Run on that day.=
? Barring a weather fiasco we should be able to provide quite a number of s=
uitable photos.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Dave<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ---=
--Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From:=
 Rye Livingston&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: Triumph list Team.net&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent: T=
hu, Nov 29, 2018 11:10 pm<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sub=
ject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Dear Fell=
ow Triumph Owner,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; It?s time t=
o make plans for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2019.<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the T=
riumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Northern California, which is celebrati=
ng our 60th anniversary.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; As y=
ou may remember a few years ago, I encouraged members of our club to drive =
their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday, th=
e man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph after the war, and went =
on to?make the cars we enjoy driving today.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; The first year about half a dozen members participated, and =
it?s been building momentum every year since. Last year I received about 25=
0 photos from all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, A=
ustralia, South Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada,=
 Holland, Czech Republic, and of course all over the USA.? I?m hoping to do=
uble that number this year!<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; T=
he concept is straightforward. On February 10th, go for a drive in your Tri=
umph.? Take a scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the market=
, to work, where ever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your loc=
al Triumph Club. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; th=
en take a photo. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possible,=
 ideally in front a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. I=
f it?s the middle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibernati=
on, or in the middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway.<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Next step is to email a high-resoluti=
on photo to <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>, alon=
g with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and pla=
ce photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be publishe=
d not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vin=
tage Triumph Registry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: <a shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank">https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com</a><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; This year February 10th falls on a =
Sunday, so lets make this a big worldwide event with club drives and lots o=
f photos.? Remember, it?s a new photo taken on February 10th, 2019.<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Please feel free to send this on to =
other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Activities Chairman and =
Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joined in too, which is a=
ll good.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Be sure to contact m=
e with any questions you may have, and thank you in advance for getting the=
 message out to your members and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on Februar=
y 10th.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Regards,Rye Livingsto=
nActivities ChairmanTriumph Travelers Sports Car ClubCelebrating our 60th A=
nniversary1960 Triumph TR3AMobile: 530-FIND-RYE<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
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v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message: 7=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 06:04=
:15 -0800<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: "Randall"&lt;=
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; To: "'Dave'"&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comc=
ast.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, "'=
Andrew Uprichard'"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; &nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Cc: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@autox.=
team.net</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR=
] TR cylinder heads<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-I=
D:&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:E6A376F4B9BD40F393B40A03900FA617@RYP=
C" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">E6A376F4B9BD40F393B40A03900FA617@RYPC=
</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/p=
lain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; =
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Does anyone have anythin=
g to add about the information I<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt; provided about a what looks like a 5th casting for 4 cylinder<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; TRs?&nbsp; I hope the message =
came through with the attached photos.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt;&gt; Dave H.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Perhaps I am confused.&nbsp; The inf=
ormation you supplied seems to match the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; information TeriAnn has listed for (some?) TR3B through CT214=
70E TR4.&nbsp; P/N<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 511084 is =
listed in the SPC as being a cylinder head (less valves and<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; springs) for TR4 through CT21470E.&nbsp; It =
takes the same exhaust valves as<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; earlier TRs, with the 3/8" stem rather than the 5/16" stem used later o=
n.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The SPC I have is not expl=
icit about the change from triple exhaust springs<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; to double; but it's my belief that it happened around =
the same time as the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; change i=
n exhaust stem diameter.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The book says the later double sp=
rings can be fitted, but is somewhat<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; confusing on the topic of "collars", since the same term is used bo=
th for<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the spacer that goes u=
nder the triple springs, and for what I call the<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; "retainer" that goes above the spring.&nbsp; I believe =
the sets with double<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; exhaust =
springs take a different retainer (142137 vs 105083) for both intake<br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; and exhaust; and should be used wit=
hout the spacer (108242).&nbsp; Both inner and<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt; outer springs have different part numbers between the two=
 sets, and I<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; believe the dime=
nsions are different.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; It also mentions the "conversion" gu=
ides to use the 5/16" exhaust valves in<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; the earlier heads.&nbsp; The earlier heads actually have a large=
r hole for the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; exhaust guide,=
 so these conversion guides are thicker to fill the larger<br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; hole.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; -- Randall<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily dr=
iver<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 71 Stag LE1473 - awaitin=
g engine rebuild<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 71-2-3 Stag =
- awaiting gearbox rebuild<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; ------------------------------<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message: 8<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 09:41:56 -0500 (EST=
)<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: TERRY SMITH&lt;<a sha=
pe=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"=
_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; To: Alan&amp;&nbsp; Lyn Dunscombe&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dunscomb@=
chch.planet.org.nz</a>&gt;,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; &=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4=
 cyl. TR motor<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-ID:&lt=
;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
inity.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">450055189.214820.154358891722=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Hi, Alan.&nbs=
p; I didn't think so but couldn't remember for sure, so just did a quick ch=
eck on the Moss Motors engine parts breakout.&nbsp; The pump itself has a g=
asket, but the joint for the cap and the pump body does not.<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;&nbsp; &nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; On Novem=
ber 30, 2018 at 5:27 AM Alan&amp;&nbsp; Lyn Dunscombe&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&nbsp; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&g=
t;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I =
am about to disassemble my oil pump on 4 cyl. TR3 motor,&amp;&nbsp; replace=
 the oil pump&nbsp; cap (with gauze filter) on to the bottom of the pump bo=
dy.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&=
gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; W=
hen I fit the new oil pump&nbsp; cap to the pump body:<br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; is there a gasket to go t=
here? ( I don't think there is, but just checking)<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; do I use any sealer between t=
he cap&amp;&nbsp; body?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; what t=
orque for the bolts holding it on?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Randall can you advi=
se? anyone?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; =
&nbsp; thanks<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Alan Dunscombe&n=
bsp; TS 3612<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"=
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one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message: 9<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:03:08 -0800<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: "Randall"&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: "'Alan&amp;&nbs=
p; Lyn Dunscombe'"&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
.org.nz" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;=
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-ID:&lt;<a shape=3D"r=
ect" href=3D"mailto:C335DA43E068468DAEE1923DB27C7A8F@RYPC" rel=3D"nofollow"=
 target=3D"_blank">C335DA43E068468DAEE1923DB27C7A8F@RYPC</a>&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; <br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; When I fit the new oil pump&nbsp; cap to =
the pump body:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; is there a=
 gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is, but<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; just checking) do I use any sealer between the ca=
p&amp;&nbsp; body?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; what t=
orque for the bolts holding it on?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; No gasket, I don't use any sealer.&nbsp; Do check that the surfaces are p=
erfectly<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; flat, though.&nbsp; =
Sometimes even new components aren't.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I think 12 ftlbs is =
a reasonable torque value; but I don't have a factory<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; spec.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Also double-check how the r=
otor is secured to the shaft.&nbsp; There should be a<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; pin visible; but some aftermarket pumps have the r=
otor pressed onto a<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; knurled s=
haft.&nbsp; The knurls have been known to fail in service and create a<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; mess (in addition to the sudden l=
oss of oil pressure).<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; -- Randall<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebu=
ild<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting ge=
arbox rebuild<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ---------------------------=
---<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message: 10<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:37:13 -0500<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; From: "Dave Connitt"&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dcon=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: "'Rye Livingston'"&lt;<a=
 shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, "'Triumph list Team.net'"<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject=
: Re: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-ID:&lt;[email-masked]=
&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain=
; charset=3D"utf-8"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; What a great idea!<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; D=
ave Connitt<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ?67 TR4A-IRS<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; From: Triumphs&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox=
.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
et</a>&gt;&nbsp; On Behalf Of Rye Livingston<br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:31 PM<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: Triumph list Team.net&lt;<a shape=3D"rect"=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; Dear Fellow Triumph Owner,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt; It?s time to make plans for Drive Your Triumph Day, Febr=
uary 10, 2019.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; My name i=
s Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Sports Car Club in Nort=
hern California, which is celebrating our 60th anniversary.<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; As you may remember a few years ago, =
I encouraged members of our club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, =
to celebrate Sir John Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's pu=
rchase of Triumph after the war, and went on to make the cars we enjoy driv=
ing today.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The first yea=
r about half a dozen members participated, and it?s been building momentum =
every year since. Last year I received about 250 photos from all over the w=
orld: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, Urug=
uay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Holland, Czech Republic, an=
d of course all over the USA.&nbsp; I?m hoping to double that number this y=
ear!<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The concept is stra=
ightforward. On February 10th, go for a drive in your Triumph.&nbsp; Take a=
 scenic drive on a country road or out to lunch, to the market, to work, wh=
ere ever. Go for a drive alone or in a big group from your local Triumph Cl=
ub. Take your spouse, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; then take a pho=
to. The photo is mainly of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in f=
ront a cool spot, landmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the mi=
ddle of the winter where you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the=
 middle of a restoration, take a photo of it anyway.<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Next step is to email a high-resolution phot=
o to <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D=
"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&lt;mailto:<a=
 shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&nbsp; , along w=
ith some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of car, and place =
photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then be published n=
ot only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national magazine: Vintag=
e Triumph Registry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day website: <a shape=3D"=
rect" href=3D"https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com" rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com</a>&lt;<a shap=
e=3D"rect" href=3D"https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com/" rel=3D"nofo=
llow" target=3D"_blank">https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com/</a>&gt;=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; This year February 10th=
 falls on a Sunday, so lets make this a big worldwide event with club drive=
s and lots of photos.&nbsp; Remember, it?s a new photo taken on February 10=
th, 2019.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Please feel fr=
ee to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your club Ac=
tivities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clubs joi=
ned in too, which is all good.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; Be sure to contact me with any questions you may have, and thank y=
ou in advance for getting the message out to your members and friends to Dr=
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=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 07:54:22 -0800 (PST)<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: DAVE HOGYE&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dlhogye@comc=
ast.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: Randall&l=
t;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, Andrew Uprichard<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; Cc: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] TR cylinder heads<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-ID:&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charse=
t=3DUTF-8<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Ah yes, I understand.&nbsp; The head was the sam=
e "casting" as the TR4A head, but have machining for the exhaust valve stem=
 and intake port that match the earlier high port heads.<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks, Dave H.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&=
gt; On November 30, 2018 at 6:04 AM Randall&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
r.com</a>&gt;&nbsp; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; Does anyone have anything to add about the infor=
mation I<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; provided abo=
ut a what looks like a 5th casting for 4 cylinder<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt; TRs?&nbsp; I hope the message came through wit=
h the attached photos.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt=
; Dave H.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Perhaps I am confused.&nbsp; =
The information you supplied seems to match the<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; information TeriAnn has listed for (some?) TR3B thro=
ugh CT21470E TR4.&nbsp; P/N<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&g=
t; 511084 is listed in the SPC as being a cylinder head (less valves and<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; springs) for TR4 through CT=
21470E.&nbsp; It takes the same exhaust valves as<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; earlier TRs, with the 3/8" stem rather than the 5/=
16" stem used later on.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; T=
he SPC I have is not explicit about the change from triple exhaust springs<=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; to double; but it's my be=
lief that it happened around the same time as the<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; change in exhaust stem diameter.<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt; The book says the later double springs can be fitted, but is somewh=
at<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; confusing on the topic=
 of "collars", since the same term is used both for<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; the spacer that goes under the triple springs, a=
nd for what I call the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; "r=
etainer" that goes above the spring.&nbsp; I believe the sets with double<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; exhaust springs take a dif=
ferent retainer (142137 vs 105083) for both intake<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; and exhaust; and should be used without the space=
r (108242).&nbsp; Both inner and<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt; outer springs have different part numbers between the two sets, and=
 I<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; believe the dimensions=
 are different.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; It also mentions the "conversion"=
 guides to use the 5/16" exhaust valves in<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; the earlier heads.&nbsp; The earlier heads actually have =
a larger hole for the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; exh=
aust guide, so these conversion guides are thicker to fill the larger<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; hole.<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;=
 -- Randall<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; 56 TR3 TS1357=
1L once and future daily driver<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;&gt; 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
------------------------------<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message: 12<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 11:09:23 -0500<br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: "Andrew Uprichard"&lt;<a shap=
e=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: "'Randall'"&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:TR3driv=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;, "'Alan&amp;&nbsp; Lyn Dunscombe'"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dunscomb@ch=
ch.planet.org.nz" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
rg.nz</a>&gt;,&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
 rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assemb=
ly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-ID=
:&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; chars=
et=3D"us-ascii"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; One additional point.&nbsp; I once rebuilt=
 an engine, but couldn't get good oil<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; pressure.&nbsp; As I had re-used the original oil pump, I pulled t=
he sump to see<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; if the problem=
 was a faulty oil pump.&nbsp; It was then I realized I had not used<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the gasket between the pump and the =
block.&nbsp; Significant oil must haven<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; leaking there as a gasket solved the problem.<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; A=
ndrew Uprichard<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Jackson, Mich=
igan<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Triumphs [mailto:<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triump=
[email-masked]</a>] On Behalf Of Randall<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 10:03 AM<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: 'Alan&amp;&nbsp; Lyn Dunscombe'; <a =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; =
When I fit the new oil pump&nbsp; cap to the pump body:<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; is there a gasket to go there? ( I don't thi=
nk there is, but<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; just che=
cking) do I use any sealer between the cap&amp;&nbsp; body?<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; what torque for the bolts holding it on?=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; No gasket, I don't use any seale=
r.&nbsp; Do check that the surfaces are perfectly<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; flat, though.&nbsp; Sometimes even new components aren=
't.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I think 12 ftlbs is a reasonable torque value; but I d=
on't have a factory<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; spec.<br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; Also double-check how the rotor is secured to the shaft.&nbsp=
; There should be a<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; pin visib=
le; but some aftermarket pumps have the rotor pressed onto a<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; knurled shaft.&nbsp; The knurls have been k=
nown to fail in service and create a<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; mess (in addition to the sudden loss of oil pressure).<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt; -- Randall<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 56 TR3 TS1357=
1L once and future daily driver<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ** <=
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 Message: 13<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: Fri, 30 No=
v 2018 11:18:05 -0500<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: "=
Jerry Van Vlack"&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: "Alan&amp;&nbsp; Lyn Dunscombe"&=
lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nof=
ollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;,<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">t=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt=
; Subject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-ID:&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto=
:E840F52B61154E66B45CF146FC349DA2@VlackTK121647" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D=
"_blank">E840F52B61154E66B45CF146FC349DA2@VlackTK121647</a>&gt;<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf=
-8"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Alan, I?m not sure I understand what you are doing to =
your oil pump, however I suggest you remove all of the scores you?ll find o=
n that cap. A flat surface is best ( I use a piece of glass ) and some emer=
y cloth with lots of oil. Work the scored surface back and forth with even =
pressure adding oil as needed until you?ve worked all of the scores out of =
the surface. You can start with coarse emery and finer once the deep scores=
 are removed. Check all the clearances and if replacing the internals be ce=
rtain the gear is pinned to the shaft as there have been failures of replac=
ement pumps. Frankly try to reuse your original pump internals. It doesn't =
seem possible that oil pressure can be lost via those scores in the bottom =
plate but from experience loss does occur there.<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I?m not f=
amiliar with a replacement gauze ?filter? screen but think it may not be a =
good idea, the screen does a fine job and the oil filter does the rest.<br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; JVV<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Alan&amp;&nbsp; Lyn Dunscombe<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 5=
:27 AM<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: <a shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; S=
ubject: Re: [TR] Oil pump re-assembly 4 cyl. TR motor<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I am=
 about to disassemble my oil pump on 4 cyl. TR3 motor,&amp;&nbsp; replace t=
he oil pump&nbsp; cap (with gauze filter) on to the bottom of the pump body=
.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; When I fit the new oil pump&nbsp; cap=
 to the pump body:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; is there a=
 gasket to go there? ( I don't think there is, but just checking)<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; do I use any sealer between the cap&a=
mp;&nbsp; body?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; what torque for the bolts holding it on?<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Randall can you advise? anyone?<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; tha=
nks<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Alan Dunscombe&nbsp; TS 3612<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></=
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 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 16:21:42 GMT<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; From: Rye Livingston&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: DAVID MASSEY&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">dave1mass=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Cc: <a shap=
e=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>, <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:r=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">rangermk@sbcgloba=
l.net</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] D=
rive Your Triumph Day - Feb 10, 2019<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; Message-ID:&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:0deaf8fe-6df3-4c79-=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">0deaf8fe-6df3-=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"; Format=3D"flowed"<br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; Excellent!<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Rye<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; On Nov 30, 2018, at 05:41 AM, DAVID MASSE=
Y&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;&nbsp; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
Coincidentally, the St. Louis Triumph Owner's Association will be holding o=
ur annual Polar Bear Run on that day.? Barring a weather fiasco we should b=
e able to provide quite a number of suitable photos.<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Dave<=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Rye Livingston&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: Triumph list Tea=
m.net&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"n=
ofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent: Thu, Nov 29, 2018 11:10 pm<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: [TR] Drive Your Triumph Day - Fe=
b 10, 2019<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Dear Fellow Triumph Owner,<br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; It?=
s time to make plans for Drive Your Triumph Day, February 10, 2019.<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; My name is Rye Livingston and I'm with the Triumph Travelers Spor=
ts Car Club in Northern California, which is celebrating our 60th anniversa=
ry.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; As you may remember a few years ago, I encouraged memb=
ers of our club to drive their Triumphs on February 10th, to celebrate Sir =
John Black's Birthday, the man who organized Standard's purchase of Triumph=
 after the war, and went on to?make the cars we enjoy driving today.<br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">&gt; The first year about half a dozen members participated, and it?s=
 been building momentum every year since. Last year I received about 250 ph=
otos from all over the world: Scotland, Ireland, the UK, New Zealand, Austr=
alia, South Africa, Uruguay, Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Canada, Hol=
land, Czech Republic, and of course all over the USA.? I?m hoping to double=
 that number this year!<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The concept is straightforward. On=
 February 10th, go for a drive in your Triumph.? Take a scenic drive on a c=
ountry road or out to lunch, to the market, to work, where ever. Go for a d=
rive alone or in a big group from your local Triumph Club. Take your spouse=
, buddy, child, grandchild or your dog; then take a photo. The photo is mai=
nly of the car, and the owner if possible, ideally in front a cool spot, la=
ndmark, scenic view or in your driveway. If it?s the middle of the winter w=
here you live and your car is in hibernation, or in the middle of a restora=
tion, take a photo of it anyway.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Next step is to email a h=
igh-resolution photo to <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:driveyourtriumphda=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
om</a>, along with some basic information: owner?s name, year and model of =
car, and place photo was taken (city, state, country). The photos will then=
 be published not only in our club newsletter, but also in USA?s national m=
agazine: Vintage Triumph Registry, and on the Drive Your Triumph Day websit=
e: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com" re=
l=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://driveyourtriumphday.shutterfly.com=
</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; This year February 10th falls on a Sunday, so lets ma=
ke this a big worldwide event with club drives and lots of photos.? Remembe=
r, it?s a new photo taken on February 10th, 2019.<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Please f=
eel free to send this on to other Triumph Clubs you may know of, and your c=
lub Activities Chairman and Newsletter editor. Last year a few Standard Clu=
bs joined in too, which is all good.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Be sure to contact me=
 with any questions you may have, and thank you in advance for getting the =
message out to your members and friends to Drive Their Triumphs on February=
 10th.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Regards,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; Rye Livingston<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Activities=
 Chairman<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Triumph Travelers S=
ports Car Club<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Celebrating ou=
r 60th Anniversary<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 1960 Trium=
ph TR3A<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Mobile: 530-FIND-RYE<=
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r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 17:15:5=
2 -0000<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; From: "John Macartney=
"&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: "'Randall'"&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">TR3d=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;, "'Dave'"&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dlhog=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "'And=
rew Uprichard'"&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Cc: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@au=
tox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re:=
 [TR] TR cylinder heads<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Messa=
ge-ID:&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
charset=3D"us-ascii"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I wasn't able to pick up on this thre=
ad owing to other pressures. I'm<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; assuming the thread refers to an earlier post where someone queried the=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; existence of a number on a w=
et liner four pot? If I'm looking at the same<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt; hymn sheet, these raised numbers cast in the head are usua=
lly found in the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; middle-ish o=
f the head adjacent to the valves and&nbsp; are not an alternative<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; part number, nor will you find them i=
n any parts catalogue. You can see the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">&gt; raised number on a little plinth which is visible underneath the =
rocker<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; arms. I know from more=
 recent experiences with the six cylinder engine that<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; this same 'number' is about adjacent to valve stem=
 three and/or four. The<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; same =
may apply to the four pot. That number is not a part number per se but<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; an engineering reference number f=
or use in production - and no other<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; purpose! If I had been a Wise Virgin some fifty or more years ago an=
d kept<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; my engineering change =
reference guides, I'd be able to tell you&nbsp; chapter and<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; verse on any head produced by the company fo=
r any market from 1946 to 1973.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t; However, long, long before the days of the internet, I looked at those<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; numbers in their manual and wo=
ndered "who on earth would ever want these?"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt; and they went in the trash. Sorry, everyone!<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; For those of you who have the 2.5 litre six=
 cylinder, bear these two numbers<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
&gt; in mind - 219015 and/or 219016.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; These identify the very last head ever re-worked for that engine an=
d it is<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; by far the best head =
in terms of porting, port diameter, gas flow and swirl<br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; within the combustion chamber. AFAIK, it was neve=
r fitted to North American<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; ca=
rs as they had lower CR's from 1971 onwards but if anyone is ever in the<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; UK or Europe and at a Triumph p=
arts fair and you see one available that's<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; undamaged, GRAB it! Not many enthusiasts realise the true wor=
th of this head<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; and I fitted =
one to my 2.5 injection saloon and the performance improvement<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; was amazing.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Jonmac<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; -----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; From: Triumphs&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:triumphs-b=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt;&nbsp; On Behalf Of Randall<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sent: 30 November 2018 14:04<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: 'Dave'&lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dlhogye=
@comcast.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;; 'Andrew Uprichard'<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; &lt;<a =
shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Cc: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Subject: Re: [TR] TR cylinder head=
s<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt;&gt; Does anyone have anything to add about the information I provided<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; about a what looks like a =
5th casting for 4 cylinder TRs?&nbsp; I hope the<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; message came through with the attached photos.<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt; Dave H.<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&=
gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Perh=
aps I am confused.&nbsp; The information you supplied seems to match the<br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; information TeriAnn has listed =
for (some?) TR3B through CT21470E TR4.&nbsp; P/N<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 511084 is listed in the SPC as being a cylinder head (l=
ess valves and<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; springs) for T=
R4 through CT21470E.&nbsp; It takes the same exhaust valves as<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; earlier TRs, with the 3/8" stem rather th=
an the 5/16" stem used later on.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; The SPC I have is not explicit about the change from triple exhaust spr=
ings<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; to double; but it's my b=
elief that it happened around the same time as the<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; change in exhaust stem diameter.<br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; The=
 book says the later double springs can be fitted, but is somewhat<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; confusing on the topic of "collars", =
since the same term is used both for<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">&gt; the spacer that goes under the triple springs, and for what I call =
the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; "retainer" that goes abov=
e the spring.&nbsp; I believe the sets with double<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; exhaust springs take a different retainer (142137 vs =
105083) for both intake<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; and e=
xhaust; and should be used without the spacer (108242).&nbsp; Both inner an=
d<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; outer springs have differen=
t part numbers between the two sets, and I<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; believe the dimensions are different.<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; It als=
o mentions the "conversion" guides to use the 5/16" exhaust valves in<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; the earlier heads.&nbsp; The earli=
er heads actually have a larger hole for the<br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">&gt; exhaust guide, so these conversion guides are thicker to fi=
ll the larger<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; hole.<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">&gt; -- Randall<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 56 TR3 TS=
13571L once and future daily driver<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">&gt; 71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt; 71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<=
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lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; To: Triumphs&lt;<a shape=3D"rect"=
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>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; Subject: [TR] Who owns buckeyetriumps.org<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Message-ID:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;CANLCLaGnR5GL=3Dxw+PGf5GGZss+<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I always go this this great website for Triumph help. I wo=
nder who owns and<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; maintains i=
t?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I'm assuming the owners re=
new the domain name every year.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I'd hate for it to be lost=
.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Sujit<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; <b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">------------------------=
------<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Message: 2<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sa=
t, 1 Dec 2018 17:35:14 -0600<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From:=
 "<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>" &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:wbe=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: Dave Ranteer &lt;<a shape=3D"r=
ect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Subject: [TR] HS6 on a TR3<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mess=
age-ID: &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:35AF5599-8A78-4D61-9D1B-E9D2C8=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">35AF5599-8A78-4D61-9D1=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">C=
ontent-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; charset=3Dus-ascii<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Insta=
lling a pair of HS6 SU carburetors from a TR4 on a stock TR3A motor.&nbsp; =
With regards to the vacuum-in ports on the carbs that would normally connec=
t to the PCV line from the rocker cover. Does it matter whether i plug the =
two ports or should I run a line between them?&nbsp;  Or is it just sixes?<=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Thanks,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bill B<br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">TS30800L<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my Handspring =
Treo<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">--------------------=
----------<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 3<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date=
: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 20:10:00 -0800<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">F=
rom: "Randall" &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" re=
l=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: "'<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:Wbeech@fl=
ash.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>'" &lt;<a s=
hape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_=
blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;, "'Dave Ranteer'"<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tri=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]=
m.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: [TR] HS=
6 on a TR3<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;<a shap=
e=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:0157339A9174481581F3C300986E4665@RYPC" rel=3D"nof=
ollow" target=3D"_blank">0157339A9174481581F3C300986E4665@RYPC</a>&gt;<br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Installing a pair of HS6 SU carbure=
tors from a TR4 on a stock <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; T=
R3A motor.&nbsp; With regards to the vacuum-in ports on the carbs <br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; that would normally connect to the PC=
V line from the rocker <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; cover=
. Does it matter whether i plug the two ports or should <br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I run a line between them?&nbsp;  Or is it just=
 sixes?<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I believe that wa=
s only on TR6.&nbsp; TR4A and TR250 used a real PCV valve<br clear=3D"none"=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">plumbed to the intake manifold.<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">But if you =
had them, you could just cap them off.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-- Randall <br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuil=
d<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox r=
ebuild <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">------------------------------<br clear=3D"none"><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message: 4<=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2018 23:07:26 -06=
00<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: "<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Wbeech@flas=
h.net</a>" &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">To: Randall &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:TR3driver=
@ca.rr.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cc: Dave Ranteer &lt;<a shape=3D"r=
ect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Subject: Re: [TR] HS6 on a TR3<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">24E66951-7669-4794=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Content-Type: text/plain;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; charset=3Dutf-8<br clear=3D"=
none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Than=
ks Randall, I?m sure you are correct as the pedigree here is a bit suspect.=
&nbsp; I?ll cap the ports off and head on to bigger things.&nbsp; <br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bill B<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my Handspring Tre=
o<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; On Dec 1, 2018, at 10:10 PM, Randall &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">TR3dr=
[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;=
 <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">&gt; Installing a pair of HS6 SU carburetors from a TR4 on a stoc=
k <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; TR3A motor.&nbsp; With reg=
ards to the vacuum-in ports on the carbs <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">&gt; that would normally connect to the PCV line from the rocker <=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; cover. Does it matter whether=
 i plug the two ports or should <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&=
gt; I run a line between them?&nbsp;  Or is it just sixes?<br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I believe that was only on TR6.&nbsp; TR4=
A and TR250 used a real PCV valve<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
plumbed to the intake manifold.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">But if you had them, you could just=
 cap them off.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">-- Randall <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>56 TR3 TS13571L once and future daily driver<br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">71 Stag LE1473 - awaiting engine rebuild<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">71-2-3 Stag - awaiting gearbox rebuild <br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">------------------------------<b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Message: 5<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Sun, 2 D=
ec 2018 07:58:52 -0500<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: "Andr=
ew Uprichard" &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">triumphs@auto=
x.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: [TR] F=
iberglass fender<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &lt;0=
[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey, =
listers:&nbsp; I recently came across, of all things, a fiberglass DS rear<=
br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">fender.&nbsp; It is unused, and, i=
f it stays with me, it will remain unused!&nbsp; So<br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">if anyone is interested, contact me offline. Thanks !<br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"> <br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Andrew Uprichard<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jackson, Michigan<br clear=3D"none"=
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