Subject: Re: [TR] Thinking about deleting my battery on my TR4.

From: "wbeech" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 14:25:36 -0500

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Interesting, can they provide the cranking amps?
Bill B
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From: Triumphs [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of =
Chris Simo
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 9:19 AM
To: list Triumph <[email-masked]>
Subject: [TR] Thinking about deleting my battery on my TR4.
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My Tr4 always starts quickly -- Anyone tried substituing super caps for =
battery on their TR?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Farad-Capacitor-2-7V-120F-6pcs-Super-Capacitor-Wi=
th-Protection-Board-Module-/322082558227?rmvSB=3Dtrue
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Accent 1"/>
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Accent 1"/>
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Accent 2"/>
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Accent 2"/>
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Accent 3"/>
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Accent 3"/>
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Accent 3"/>
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Accent 4"/>
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Accent 4"/>
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Accent 4"/>
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Accent 4"/>
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Accent 4"/>
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Accent 5"/>
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Accent 5"/>
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Accent 6"/>
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Accent 6"/>
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Accent 6"/>
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Light"/>
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Dark"/>
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Dark Accent 2"/>
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Dark Accent 3"/>
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Dark Accent 4"/>
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Dark Accent 5"/>
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Dark Accent 6"/>
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Light"/>
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<w:LsdException Locked=3D"false" Priority=3D"48" Name=3D"List Table 3"/>
<w:LsdException Locked=3D"false" Priority=3D"49" Name=3D"List Table 4"/>
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Dark"/>
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Colorful"/>
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Colorful"/>
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Light Accent 1"/>
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Accent 1"/>
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Dark Accent 1"/>
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Colorful Accent 1"/>
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Accent 2"/>
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Dark Accent 2"/>
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Colorful Accent 2"/>
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Light Accent 3"/>
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Accent 3"/>
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Accent 3"/>
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Accent 3"/>
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Dark Accent 3"/>
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Colorful Accent 3"/>
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Colorful Accent 3"/>
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Light Accent 4"/>
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Accent 4"/>
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Accent 4"/>
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Accent 4"/>
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family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Interesting, can they provide =
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Simo<br><b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, =
September 01, 2016 9:19 AM<br><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> list Triumph =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [TR] Thinking about =
deleting my battery on my TR4.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>My Tr4 always starts quickly -- Anyone tried =
substituing super caps for battery on their =
TR?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><font =
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wow...

you'd need one monster bank of these!

just like resistance....  1V through 1ohm resistance is 1A of current flow

on caps... 1F / 1A /1 second

Caps should be rated at twice the voltage they will ever see in service.

A 24V 1Farad capacitor is roughly the size of a quart paint can.

oh...can your car start in under one second?   :-) scale.... you need a 
back seat for the caps!

ptegler

On 9/1/2016 10:18 AM, Chris Simo wrote:
> My Tr4 always starts quickly -- Anyone tried substituing super caps 
> for battery on their TR?
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> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Farad-Capacitor-2-7V-120F-6pcs-Super-Capacitor-With-Protection-Board-Module-/322082558227?rmvSB=true
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    <p>wow... <br>
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    <p>you'd need one monster bank of these!</p>
    <p>just like resistance....  1V through 1ohm resistance is 1A of
      current flow</p>
    <p>on caps... 1F / 1A /1 second</p>
    <p>Caps should be rated at twice the voltage they will ever see in
      service.</p>
    <p>A 24V 1Farad capacitor is roughly the size of a quart paint can. 
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    <p>oh...can your car start in under one second?   :-)        
      scale.... you need a back seat for the caps!<br>
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    ptegler<br>
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here is what a friend of mine who is an electrical engineer said:

It appears that the voltage for one of the boards is 2.7 volts.  You =
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The banks need to be hooked up with copper that will carry enough =
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 1, 2016 2:25 PM</DIV>
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From: Jeff Scarbrough <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 07:41:08 -0400

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On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Chris Simo <[email-masked]> wrote:

> My Tr4 always starts quickly -- Anyone tried substituing super caps for
> battery on their TR?

A battery has internal resistance, which limits the discharge rate.  You
can weld with it, but it's rarely more exciting than that*.

A capacitor, OTOH, can discharge rather more quickly.  Not a good thing.

*(exceptions made for sparks around hard-working wet cell batteries, which
can get very interesting very quickly.  Wear safety glasses when
jump-startign cars!)

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.

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On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Chris Simo <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My Tr4 always starts q=
uickly -- Anyone tried substituing super caps for battery on their TR?</blo=
ckquote></div><br>A battery has internal resistance, which limits the disch=
arge rate.=C2=A0 You can weld with it, but it&#39;s rarely more exciting th=
an that*.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra">A capacitor, OTOH, can discharge rather more quickly.=C2=A0 Not a good =
thing.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"=
>*(exceptions made for sparks around hard-working wet cell batteries, which=
 can get very interesting very quickly.=C2=A0 Wear safety glasses when jump=
-startign cars!)</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Jeff Scarbrough</div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra">Corrosion Acres, Ga.</div></div>

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